Nightcap Hour 2: Unc and Ocho are joined by track phenom Kenny Bednarek to talk the World Championships in Japan

20:01Shannon Sharpe:that's what I'm going to say he'll stop looking at you if you beat him Kenny you got to beat him yeah I know like I said he's been getting the better than me for years so like I said I'm just trying to improve myself every single time I step on the track every single year I've been getting better stronger faster and that time is coming soon. Yeah. Hey, listen, and Kenny, there's really nothing wrong with a little friendly competition. Nothing wrong with... Yeah, I mean, it's definitely good for the sport. I mean, the fact that... I mean, when I did it, I didn't think anything of it and then, you know, it was all over the news.

20:30I was like, oh, okay, I guess this is happening. You didn't think nothing of it.

20:33Shannon Sharpe:You showed a man in the back and y 'all running, you ain't think nothing of it. Hey, like I said, it was spur of the moment. But like I said, we discussed about it and, you know, we're on the same page and we got that mutual respect for each other. But, yeah, it's definitely good for a sport. We need healthy rivalries like that. So, every single time, you know, like I said, I stepped down in the 100. You know, I did do what I wanted to do when it came to the finals. But, you know, I was in really good shape to do something crazy in that 100 finals. So, you know, I'm just excited for the next years, you know.

21:04Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah. There are the rumors swirling that that burner count, Track Spice, that that might be you. Nah, that's not me. Hey, all I can say about that is that me, my social media team, we don't handle that account at all. I mean, when it comes to that, that's just noise. And I just try to ignore that. I mean, that's all drama. For me, I just focus on track. And, you know, people are going to say what they're going to say. They're going to believe me whether they believe me or not. It doesn't really matter to me. Let me ask you something. You witnessed this. You saw Sid one year. She took the 400 meters.

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26:30Shannon Sharpe:Did she win the USA? She goes on the global stage and runs the second fastest time that's ever been run. A lot of people like, I mean, think about how many women have run. There's like, no, nobody's going to do it. I didn't think I was going to see a woman be able to, because really when you think about it, no one has really come close. I mean, think about it. Nobody has come within a half a second of Coke's record until Sid, when she ran 48-29. I said, well, knowing that who's in this race, because you know, Kenny, in order to get a fast time or world record or championship record, you need two things.

27:11Shannon Sharpe:You need competition in the race and you need conditions. Now, she didn't get the conditions, but she got Paulino and she got Nassar. and when she got them, she knew because when Paulino got lane eight, she knew and Pauline did something she normally, she don't normally go out like that. Nassau is always going to take it out. So if I'm sitting there, I'm thinking Bobby Kersey probably told her, Nassau is going to take it out. Attach yourself to Nassau. Let her pull you to Paulino. You're strong enough in the last 100 to bring it home. When you saw her run, when you saw her get out and she was smooth and you saw that time, what went through your mind when you saw 47-78?

27:55I wasn't surprised. I mean, after seeing Sydney do what she did in the previous race, I was just like, world record? I think she can hit it. Wow. Yeah, I mean, Sydney's a gamer. Like, she's a dog. I mean, you know, we've seen what she's done in the hurdles. I wasn't sure exactly what she was going to do when she came down to the four. You know, the first race she ran, I was like, okay, that looked pretty good. But yeah, she's a hard worker. And I mean, yeah, that's insane. I don't know what she's going to do after this year, but I feel like, hey, you should just go after that world record. You're so close.

28:23You might as well just go after it. I mean, the hurdles right now for her just, you know, that's her main event and it's easy for her. So, you know, just test yourself what she did this year and just try to get that world record next year.

28:34Shannon Sharpe:I think the thing what she really wants to do, Kenny, she wants to take that. She wants to take the hurdles under 50 because she knows that she puts that record under 50. That record might be like Flojo 100 meters. It might be like Flojo's 200 meters. That's what she wants. It might be like Coke's 400-meter record. Because something that, like, when you think about it, I mean, you can say, well, what you call him at 1054? Elaine Thompson ran 1054. Flojo ran 1049. Like, ah. I mean, she had everything perfect. I mean, wasn't nobody close to Flojo when she was running those times. But you really think?

29:12Shannon Sharpe:You think in the next year? Because I think Bobby is positioning her. he's going to position the committee we'll do the 4-4 because that's all there is left ain't really nothing left she runs the hurdle can't nobody beat her unless she hits the hurdle and falls down but as far as just like okay there's a competition somebody line up Femke Bowl can't see her because Femke doesn't have the foot speed I understand Femke she's unbelievable and she can beat everybody else but it's kind of like being in an era with Usain there were some fast guys the Usain era. It just wasn't Usain. There are some great hurdlers in Sydney's era.

29:49Shannon Sharpe:It's just not Sydney. Yeah, she's just a different breed. I mean, like I said, next year's an off year. We got Ultimate Championships, so I don't know what's in store for her, but I mean, like I said, she definitely can just go after that whenever she wants to. Tell me what the Ultimate Championships is. So is that just the USA's? Because the Worlds, like every odd year, so we had 25, we had the Worlds, we're going to have the Worlds again in 27, and then you got the Olympics and 28. So as an off year in 26, what's the Ultimate Championships? Explain that to us. So the Ultimate Championships is just some new event that World Athletics is having in September.

30:25It's kind of similar like World Championships, but it's not exactly the same thing because usually you bring every country that qualified with the standard and all that. The Ultimate Championship is the best of the best, so I think you either go off a ranking or what you've done previously, and And it's only two races, so semifinals and finals. Yeah. And the prize purse. So you can have something in the tank. You have something left in the tank.

30:48Shannon Sharpe:You ain't got to go all these four rounds. Yeah. I mean, honestly, me personally, I was like, I wasn't sure if I wanted to do it for the next year. But then after what happened this year, I was like, yeah, I'm definitely motivated to go there, get that prize purse. Because the prize purse, I think, is like$150K or$100K at least, which is something that, you know. For a winner to win? Yeah. Damn. You know, I might start training for something. Well, listen. Hey, Kenny, matter of fact, we can really solidify and kind of already put that money already in your pocket if you allow me to be your training partner.

31:22Because if you allow me to train on the side of you, I'm going to get you where you need to be. Man, you've got to race me first before you're trying to be my training partner. You want to race? You've got to race me first if you want to be my training partner. But listen, I don't want to take your confidence away because that's what's going to happen if we race. So I'd rather you just allow me to come into camp and be a training partner. I could be like the master. I'll allow you to come into the camp and be my training partner. Right. First of all, you got to go through my coach, Dennis Mitchell.

31:52He's a, I don't know. Hey, hold on. I beat Dennis running back in the day. So he really got no say so.

31:58Shannon Sharpe:Hey. Y 'all got a nice little group. Y 'all got a nice little group down there. Oh, we got. Where y 'all training out of Gainesville? Orlando. No, no, no. We're pretty much in Orlando. Okay. Y 'all got Melissa Jefferson, TT. Y 'all got Kayla. Sha 'Carri. Sha 'Carri, yeah. Yeah, we got Coleman, Meek, Aaron Brown. We got B-Stew. We got a bunch of people. We got Kyrie as well, Courtney Lindsey. I mean, Brandon Hicklin. Every freaking practice day, it just seems like it's a race. It's intense. I mean, for me in particular, having those guys in the group has really helped me perform at a higher level.

32:36Shannon Sharpe:well damn y 'all so basically the women's team is team Dennis Mitchell cause everybody that's on the damn relay running Dennis Mitchell and y 'all got three of the four guys on them day hey like I said that's the hard work that we all put in if y 'all don't come away with that gold medal I'ma feel some type of way hey I told you we got it we got it and I'll be on here talking Kenny I don't know if you be seeing it but I'll be on here talking crazy to the Jamaicans and they be feeling some type of way I didn't feel it some type of way because they ain't got you saying no more and it ain't no sure thing because we won the gold and silver in the 100 meters I said we repraved y 'all we got the gold and we got the fastest woman in the world can't nobody see MJ and we got the gold and the silver and guess what we was about to spank y 'all in the relay but we ain't got to worry about that now we about to put something on you in the relay but we got something for you when you say you were in shape what's an ideal what's an ideal weight for you Kenny what do you weigh 60 65 oh hell no I weigh way more than that I'm 190 right now I'm 190 what okay yeah so you're not the first person that's ever underestimated my weight I had a teammate of mine a couple years ago he's like what are you 160 I said no I'm 185 he's like no way I just think most of my I have a lot of muscle you've probably seen photos of me like I don't have that much fat on me I think most of my muscle is in my legs.

34:03I don't know. But, yeah, I weigh 190. 192, I think last year was the heaviest I've ran at, and that just gave me way more power.

34:12Shannon Sharpe:Well, see, I was thinking like Fred. I was thinking Fred Curley because he's so tall that he's about 190. But I was like somewhere between 60 and 70. For you, I would have never guessed you would have that. Yeah, so when I came into the group originally in 2020 and 2019, I was like 180 and I, you know, I was a four, two guy. But every single year, like I've been getting faster and stronger. And yeah, I just, I guess it was just, you know, getting older too, just gained a lot more muscle. The muscle maturity. And it just makes it honestly, it makes everything feel so much easier too. I mean, sprinting mechanics and all that from the block starts to everything, like it feels so much easier.

34:50How tall are you? Six two. Okay. Okay. Okay. Damn.

34:54Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. And that's another thing. I mean, I went out, you know, looking at you on television, television normally ass size. I would have never guessed you are as big as you are as far as 6 '2", 190 pounds. That's big for a 100-meter sprinter. You think so? Yes. I guess I'm different. I was thinking like Coleman. What's Coleman? Height-wise or weight-wise? Height-wise, he can't be no more than 5 '6", 5 '7". Okay.

35:32Shannon Sharpe:on a good day I give him eight but I'm thinking five seven I don't know how much he weighs I would say maybe around like 160 170 yeah that would make sense yeah that's why but you feel but you feel the you like you mentioned when you got when you got the team Mitch uh you 180 but you feel the extra 10 pounds of muscle gave you the power to thrust out of the blocks and it gave you to be able to hold it in the 200. Because you were 200 special, and a lot of times we see this, 200 specialists. We saw you saying, who's a 200-meter specialist? Drop down. I think it was, I think also with me running the four, I pretty much ran the four my whole life.

36:16And then, you know, I ran 44-7 in college, and then I went to Dennis' group. And then after that, he made me run the two, and the one pretty much permanently. I think that was just the endurance was just instilled in my body just growing up, running long distance I also used to run cross country as well What the hell? Yeah, so I ran cross country in elementary all the way to what, 6th, 7th grade so I think once I got a little bit up in distance, I was like, yeah, this ain't for me you know I just went into football and then just did track but I think just doing that in my development stages, that just really helped me bring that endurance and just made everything easier so yeah I'll say 190 190 192 if I go any higher than maybe I'll be a little too heavy but right now everything feels easy

37:01Shannon Sharpe:you had a very unconventional route to where you became you went to a community college uh you didn't go to Texas or Tennessee or one of these powerhouse LSU Texas A &M that's not the route that you took how were you able to stay focused taking this route because you know most to the guys that, you know, you didn't turn pro right out of high school. I mean, I wasn't that fast in high school. But I think just my mom, you know, I'm adopted as well. So, you know, being a young kid, being adopted at four, you know, just had to work just to be where I was. I mean, she instilled good values in me every single day.

37:46I mean, she was a single mother adopting four kids. She was kind of the blueprint for me just to work hard every single day. And, you know, I was recruited by all the top schools at one point, but I was one of those kids where I was kind of like, oh, I don't really care about school. Let me just have fun and do sports. Didn't realize that, you know, hey, GPA matters when the schools want to come after you. I mean, I think that was the question where junior year, they're like, what's your GPA? I'm like, oh, shit. So then, you know, I had to sell it first.

38:16Shannon Sharpe:It wasn't my 40s time. you said what was your 40 time no yours wasn't your 40 time because you had a 42 gpa you'd have been you'd have been gucci yeah uh so you know i had to go for a junior college uh in the middle of iowa uh called indian hills and you know the program brand brand brand new why you come by the warm weather city to go to run track how you go to iowa to run track i didn't think about stuff like that i mean i'm from wisconsin so i've already ran in the cold Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Touche. Touche. Yeah. So, you know, I went to there for a year, did my thing, went pro. And yeah, I mean, just being from an adopted kid, going into foster care, like my whole life, the route just to get here was unconventional.

39:05And, you know, I give thanks to my mom on why I was able to, you know, be here where I am today and accomplish my dreams.

39:12Shannon Sharpe:That's dope. So when it finally does happen, you beat Noah in the 200. I mean, what are you going to do to celebrate? You're going to have a beer? You're going to have a piece of cake? I mean, what's going to – I mean, that's – I mean, have you ever beat Noah in the two? I mean, I have, but it's the fact of, hey, I beat him while getting silver and somebody else got me, you know? Oh, yeah, you beat him at the liberty. You're right. You're right. You're right. Yeah. He got the bronze both times. It's not really just about beating him. It's just about getting that gold medal because, you know, my first year at the Olympics in 2021 here at Tokyo, you know, I beat I beat him.

39:49But then Andre de Grasse got me. So it's the same with this. You know, it's the same with Paris beat him. But then Tobago got me, you know. And I said, that's why I just kind of frustrating because I'm not focusing on just him. I'm focusing on just that gold medal because I know what I can do. But it's always seems like there's something. And like I said, running running from late. not saying it's an excuse. It's just tough because you're on the island. You know, you got one person ahead of you, and you just got to make sure to be mentally strong and just think about yourself. You can't think about nobody else because you're out there running by yourself.

40:22You're running blind. Yeah, pretty much. But, I mean, you look at Wade Van Nieker.

40:29Shannon Sharpe:When he runs in Rio, he's in the farthest lane, and he knows he has LaShawn there, and he had, what's the guy from? I remember watching that. I don't remember his name, though. I just remember. He went from Alabama. Oh, my goodness. I can't think of his name. But anyway, he knew they were back there. He knew those guys were sub 44 guys. Both had already won a gold medal in the 400. And he just took he was the last qualifier. And he just took off and he ran 4040. I had no idea. I remember watching that when I was a kid. I just like, oh, he's going to burn out. And he just kept running. I said, oh, my gosh.

41:11Shannon Sharpe:That was the thing. He didn't burn out. Yeah, he just kept going. I mean, honestly, that's the mentality I have when I get a lane draw like eight. I'm just like, hey, I just got to go all gas and just execute my race and see what happens. No breaks. So after the championships, how much time do you take off? Are you done for the rest of the year and just start? Because I don't think you do the indoor season. so now okay so now when will you start back okay you're not gonna let yourself say you you say ideal shape is somewhere between 190 192 well if you're not working out you might get up to 195 maybe even 200 no i don't i don't even do that you know i don't gain weight i don't gain weight like that i usually so usually we have what a month and a half to two months depending on what coach wants.

42:01Sometimes I'll maybe take a week or two more. But what I do, you know, I do a lot of preventative stuff. So, you know, I give myself a week or two just to kind of do whatever I want to do. And then after that, I'm in the gym or with my physio, you know, just working on like strengthening small ligaments here and there. Because, you know, body's always compensating, especially when we're redlining every single time for the whole year. For vacation, you know, I like to go to Thailand like last year or two years ago. I went to Saipu, Philippines. I always just like to travel, just see new things.

42:38I'm out here in Tokyo right now. So once the relay is done with, I'm going to stay here for an extra three to four days, go sightseeing. Because I'm not one to go out and about when we're in the midst of the meet and everything. And then after that, I got to do some stuff back home. And then I'm trying to figure out if I want to just go do a cruise. But yeah, I just love to travel and just see the world.

42:59Shannon Sharpe:Karani James that's his name Karani James oh yeah yeah Grenada hey he's still he's still running too yes went to the University of Alabama he won the NCAA championships in the 400 meters turned pro LaShawn Merritt I think LaShawn won in 08 he won in 12 Van Niekert won in in 16 in Fast Stevie yeah from the Bahamas yeah but it's so I mean, why is it so hard for 400 meters to repeat? Because if you go back and look at it, Michael Johnson is the only one to double up. No other man has ever won back-to-back 400-meter titles. Why is it so hard for men to repeat the 400 meters? I mean, you're seeing the times right now.

43:46There's always somebody that's coming into the fold. Somebody else that's running 43 seconds, running 43 fives or whatever. I mean, you got these Botswana kids. Yeah, Chippy.

43:54Shannon Sharpe:Chippy just ran 43 five. Where did he come from? Hey, there's just a lot of talented people in the world, and, you know, they just need the right coach and right program. So these kids are finally finding the right circumstances, the right system and all that, and they're ready to go. And, you know, I mean, that's why it's hard. I mean, even look at this 200. I think this is the fastest 200 I've ever been in. It is. You know? It is. You know, when Bolt was running, it was him, maybe one other person, and everybody else is not running that fast. Now we got four or five guys that are running under some 20.

44:27Shannon Sharpe:I think this is the most time that we've had guys under, I think, what, 19-7? You had four guys that run. Yeah, in one race. Yeah, sub-19-7. We've never had that many run sub-19. We had four. We had two guys under 19-6, and we had two guys under 19-7. So we had four guys that run sub-19-7, which, like you said, unheard of. I mean, you get. Go ahead. Like I said, shoes are getting better. Surface are getting better. Training programs are getting better. You're finding the right talents. like there's a lot of people in this room yeah and you're fast yeah and you and you're getting the right because a lot of things have to go right um i was talking we have uh mj on melissa and we were saying she had the right people in the race to go really fast and she gets a if she gets a plus one tailwind she's going sub 10-6 because she got alfred in there she got tia clayton she got tina clayton she got to lou smith in there so she has the people you need the competition.

45:27Shannon Sharpe:You need a track and you need conditions. She had everything except the conditions. If you get a plus one, she's going to sub 10-6. Yeah, it's over with. Yeah. Melissa, Melissa, she's been putting in so much work. I mean, from seeing her last year into going to this year, she got stronger. She got way stronger. Mechanics, everything has gotten so much better. It's just awesome to see what she's done this year. And I definitely feel like she can repeat this. You know, it is hard to do it, but she's one of those athletes that can repeat and be a double champion again. Man, I wish it was 2027. I wish we had the world and then next year with the 27 because it's, I mean, to stay on top, it's hard.

46:10Shannon Sharpe:Because like you said, you got 200 countries and you got some 17, 18, 19, 20-year-old that we ain't even heard of yet. And all of a sudden they pop up out of this. That's why it's important. You got to find the right people. I mean, for me, I invest so much in my body. I mean, you got people, you know, even with Tobogo, you know, he was Olympic champ last year. This year, he didn't come out with anything. And there's just a lot of things that you need to do in order to stay on top. I mean, I got a physio, a massage therapist, chiropractor. You know, I invest in a lot of my body. I mean, I got a cold plunge sauna at my house, red light therapy.

46:45Like, it's a lot of hard work.

46:47Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. I mean, I'm looking at the women and the hurdles. Hell, where did kombucha come from? She's always been there. But, I mean, look at what we got. We got Russell. We got Stark. We got all them. I'm like, damn. Yeah, I mean, the women's hurdles has always been tough. I mean, you go watch the Diamond League, there's always three or four of them in that race. So they never get a break. And it's hard. I don't know if we've ever had a repeat champion in the women's hurdle. Because you get one, and then the next year, boom, here comes somebody else. And then here comes somebody else. I mean, you had Joanna Hayes, and you had Don Harper, and then you get Brianna Rawlins and then you get Camacho.

47:31I'm like... Hey, that's what makes track inciting because you don't know what's going to happen.

47:38Shannon Sharpe:Except when it came to the 100 meters back from 2008, 12, and 16, we knew. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it wasn't. Who got... Hey, he show up. Who got second? Who wouldn't get the silver? You already... You know. Yeah, he's just looking like, all right, who's going with? Did you ever get a chance to race against both? Nah, I'm too young. Way too young. So when he retired, 2017, I didn't become a pro until 2019, 2020. Oh, yeah. Yeah, because I'm only 26, so. Oh, you got some good years left. You about a year and a half away from prime. So you should be real good by the time 28 rolls around. It's in L.A. Hey, that's perfect.

48:26Shannon Sharpe:It's L.A., look. And they ain't coming back. Last time they were in L.A. was 1984.

48:34Shannon Sharpe:So, home soil. We need some home cooking, Kenny. We need home cooking. That's the perfect time. Well, I'm expecting you. All I know is I'm going to be watching 2026 Ultimate Championships. Are they going to be normal races like they normally would be? You know, what, the Drake and the SAC? So they're going to be. I would say, yeah. You know, Drake Relays, I actually like going to that. But usually when they have that, I'm always overseas running somewhere. But, yeah, they'll have that. Mount Sac, you know, still Diamond League. Like, all those things are going to be there. I still think we have our Nationals as well.

49:12So that will be going on. So we have a full season of a lot of meets and everything else. So, like I said, time-wise, I'm just focused on just executing my race next year. and time goal-wise, I got...

49:27Shannon Sharpe:What you looking at for at 100 meters? What's your goal? What's your goal for the 100? What's your goal for the 200? So how I felt this year and what I was doing at practice, I was talking to my coach. I definitely could have ran 9.7 mid or 9.7 low. So I feel like next year, if coach wants to do it with me, I feel like I want to go off the American record for the 100 meters. 9.68? It's 69. Well, you got to run 968. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, true. Hold on. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Have you been under 9.8? Yeah, I went 979 at our trials, yeah. Do you understand how much?

50:13Kenny, are you mad? I understand it. But like I said. Hey, everybody. I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby. What's up, y 'all? I'm your girl, Cheryl Swoops. When you tune in to a new episode of our podcast, Levels to This, you're definitely going to get some spicy WNBA analysis. I see a lot of men who get into the space because now it's a hot product and that grinds my gears to dust. But then the conversation goes on and levels up beyond basketball. It's been really, really cool seeing kind of these women just really step into their power off the court and understand that they are basketball, right? And they're not asking for permission.

50:55Because on Levels to This, the game is always the starting point. But we're more than just hoops. And the real conversation is what we actually bring. This is Levels to This, the podcast about all the levels of stuff that women go through. Listen to Levels to This with Shroes Hoops and Tarika Foster-Brasby on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Manga Shatikular, and I'm back with a new season of the podcast Skyline Drive. This time I'm diving into a rabbit hole of peptides, organoids, blood boys, blue zones, and brain replacement to try to understand what this longevity obsession is all about and what it really means to live forever for all of us.

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54:55With the shape that I'm in right now and the practices that I've had leading up to the 100, And that's why it stung so much more for me when I didn't cross the finish line, even getting a medal because of my mishaps.

55:05Shannon Sharpe:Right. I could have done something dangerous. And now I got to wait two years. But I'm just like, hey, screw it. You know, coach coach wants to do this next year. And that's one of the goals that I want to hit because I definitely feel like I'm capable of doing. I finally have a start that took about, what, for four years. I mean, my teammates were teammates were kicking my ass for four years straight in the blocks. It was so bad to where we were just like, hey, man, screw the blocks. let me just do the workout right now and just roll y 'all up like that's what i wanted because they were embarrassing me but you know i i feel great and every rate even even running the 985 in the semi-finals like that's the easiest 985 i ever ran you know no no tensing up or anything so i knew that the finals i could have done something crazy and then obviously you guys saw what happened had a late reaction and then yeah i was like well damn kenny yeah that That was a 200-meter reaction.

55:58Yeah. Like I said, I let it slip away, and that's why it stung so much more because I knew that I was in really good shape. So now I got to wait.

56:06Shannon Sharpe:You ran 979. Where do you feel you can make up that kind of time? Because that's a lot of time. From 979 to 968, that ain't no step. That's more than a step. Where are you going to make up your time at? At the start? The transition? deceleration it's in the start so usually when in the 100 especially when i get up um you just stay relaxed and just hold on to what i build up so for me it's in the the first you know 20 30 40 meters if i can set up perfectly then i can get it man you train with christian can't you get that start can't you let that rub off on you it has actually i mean that's why my that's why my that's why the start has actually been way better i mean the addition to having him also with the other teammates of mine um it just really helped like something just clicked this year and then hey i finally got to start and that just built confidence and you know going to grand slam as well just really helped uh i just really needed reps in the 100 because that was the biggest thing that i was lacking previous years like i was like hey can i get in 100 and it's like nah you're a 200 guy let's run it too so i'm like ah damn this is like my 10th 200 of the year let me get in 100 so this year really helped me out just to kind of understand the the mechanics you know i think also just being older and just maturing as an athlete actually understanding what my coach was trying to teach me the previous years everything just started just make sense became way easier and like i said i i'm confident that you know i can get around that area next year but that's that's what coach wants to do if that's what coach wants to do because i know everything's about a plan you know you could go crazy next year but then you got you know another world world championships in the olympics so you know if it's not part of his blueprint then we'll see how different is the training from 100 i would assume that 100 you're doing 150s and twos so for two are you doing 250s threes how different is the training uh depends on the coach uh for us in particular we if we're training for 200 you know we do like 250s 300s uh 150s 120s a lot of speed work uh and then he's he's where he wants to hone uh make us hone on the technical side of the of the race because like okay you can build build all this speed but it don't mean anything if you're not technically you know sound so um when it comes to the 100 you know 60 80s 60 80s 60 80s just a lot of 60 80s and then 120s um but i mean it's working like every coach is different you know another coach can say something completely different but that's what we do a lot of sled training as well uh we do a lot of 1080 stuff like we do we do a bunch of stuff Wow.

58:48Shannon Sharpe:And weight training.

58:52Shannon Sharpe:Plyos, a lot of cleans, a lot of partial squats, a lot of box jumps. I mean, a lot of explosive stuff because you can't be explosive if you don't train explosive. Yeah, it's like stuff like that. I mean, you know, I can't give too much detail. I got you. I got you. I got you, man. Kenny, thanks for your time, man. Appreciate it. Good luck tomorrow, bro. It's been a while since we've been atop the podium on the global stage and the relay, man. Kenny, don't let us down, Kenny. Don't let us down. Hey, I said we got you. We got a good squad. We've been practicing hard. We'll get it done. Help me out here.

59:34Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all hear that, Jamaicans? Do y 'all hear that? Don't be mad. Don't be mad because we're about to get both of them sweepstakes. Men and women. American flag. I got to find me an American flag tomorrow because I'm going to be flying it. Hey, I'm going to suffer, but kid, I ain't going to lie. I'm a sore loser. I'm a worst winner. They hate you. They do. They do. When y 'all win this race tomorrow, I will give them something to hate. All right. I will count on it. Kenny Benderick, silver medalist in back-to-back Olympics and in the world championship. Kenny, congratulations. Good luck tomorrow.

1:00:18Shannon Sharpe:Come back and talk to us again soon, man. All right, thank you. Thanks for having me on. Appreciate you, man. All right, bye. Ocho, do we got graphics for this? We got a new game. Our newest segment is back. It's called Play or Fade. It's presented by PrizePix, and this is how it works. The nightcap staff has made a slip of their picks, and we either play their slip or make some changes, choosing more or less. See, I felt pretty good. I got two of them right. Two of them was right. So let me see what we got here. Jordan Love, more of one, 1.5 touchdown passes. Well, Lamar Jackson threw for like 12, so he going to have at least two more, 0.5, more, more, more.

1:01:00Shannon Sharpe:You like that? You like that, Ocho? Absolutely. Because you told me James Cook was going to have, oh, yeah, he going to have like 30 yards receiving and didn't. Well, I mean, they didn't have to. But most of the time they – Bro, I'm trying to win money. You told me they ain't have to. I mean, no. Well, we don't know what the game plan is, but most of the time he catches the ball out the backfield as well. So I thought that would have been a smart play. I'm betting money. Okay. I'm trying to win money. I'm trying to win 5 ,900 that you owe me. So I'm trying to do stuff to get that. Okay. Okay. I see.

1:01:35Shannon Sharpe:I see. I see. How about this here? B. John Robinson, more than 110.5 rush yards and receiving yards combined against Carolina. Absolutely. Come on now. Okay. I'll just say go more. Tyler Warren, 47.5 receiving yards against Tennessee. That's the tight end from the Colts. Hey, listen, the way Danny Dimes is dishing, man. The way Danny Dimes is dishing. What you think? Oh. I'm going to... Lord, I'm going to... You ain't got no confidence in 17 over there with the horseshoe on the helmet? Okay. All right, all right, I'm going to go. Okay. Yeah. Jake Elliott, more than 1.5 field goal against the Raiders.

1:02:28Shannon Sharpe:They're playing the Raiders? No, that's the Rams. Rams. Jake Elliott, that's the Eagles, right?

1:02:39one point oh yeah yeah for sure absolutely he's gonna two two two two two two i'm taking the staff

1:02:49Shannon Sharpe:slip but i tell you what y 'all better be right on the only one i'm really concerned about is tyler warren the 47 and a half receiving yards but uh

1:03:04Shannon Sharpe:I got to go against you, Ocho. My gut tells me to go against you. See? One thing you never do. Never bet against the house. Oh, you the house now? Yeah, I'm the house. Never bet against the house. Well, when the house going to pay some money? My money. When the house going to pay my money? Download the app today. Use code Shannon to get$50 in lineups after you play your first$5 lineups. So go on out there and play. You know, we're going to win some money tomorrow. Ocho, Atlanta Falcons cut kicker, Young Way Koo. After seven years with the team, signed new starter Parker Romo to a two-year deal.

1:03:41Shannon Sharpe:And Arnold Cole, the fans have asked us to bring the viral clip with Coach Prime and the pronunciation of his name back. Y 'all did be dirty, Ocho. Hey, that was classic, bro. But y 'all had me rolling, bro. Here it is. Here's the clip.

1:04:01Shannon Sharpe:I don't think they can hear it.

1:04:10Shannon Sharpe:Young Hoku kicks the ball to win over the same. What was it? Young way? Young way? Young way Hoku? No, it ain't what you said, dog. You just talking about saying that. I said Young Hoku. No, you can't. That's not their name. What's his name? Who you talking about? The kicker for the Falcons. What's the name?

1:04:37Shannon Sharpe:Young? Young Wade? You see what I'm saying? Don't try to change that, though. You got to stop there. Oh, but look, I was, hold on. How does it spell? Hey, Joe. How does it spell young? How do they spell it young? No, they don't spell it young like we spell it. I think they spell it Y-U-G. So how you know how to spell that and you know how to spell the other one?

1:05:06Shannon Sharpe:No, no. Sheet. Sheet? Sheet? Oh, Ash spelled it wrong. Youngho Koo. I didn't get a sheet. Bro, you said young ho. That's what he said, didn't he? Yeah, young ho. Okay, dog. Hold on, hold on. Hold on. You have a flashback. Hold on. You have a flashback, dog. Ocho, Ocho. Okay, what is this spell? Y-O-U-N-G-H-O-E. Dog, who wrote that for you? Ain't nobody. That ain't nobody's name. That ain't nobody's name, dog. That is nobody's name. That is. That is nobody's real name. And you gonna say it. That ain't nobody's name. Ocho, that is a name. Nobody's name spelled like that. You know there ain't nobody's name spelled like that.

1:05:53Shannon Sharpe:Actually, that is his name. It's pronounced Young Way. Why you say Young Way? But it's spelled because, no, she put it on there as Young Way. But if you go look at it, it's Y-O-N-G-H-O-E. G-H-O-E don't make that sound. G-O-E. That makes it G-O. There you go. You got flashbacks. You got to stop that, though, man. The Falcons defense's special teams make big plays and thrill it with. That's what he said, Chad. Yo, bro. I left y 'all home. She was young? Oh, I thought you were talking about two weeks ago. I ain't know what you were talking about. I ain't know what you were talking about, dog. Man, I ain't know.

1:06:44Shannon Sharpe:No, you didn't. No, you didn't.

1:06:49hey boy that was classic

1:06:57Shannon Sharpe:hey that was classic man that is time for our final segment of the evening it's time for Q and A hey boy that was classic that's one we're going to be able to listen to 10 years from now and still last the same way y 'all got jokes huh we've had facts can we show Ocho's skateboard video please well that was from years ago you saw that you when that skateboard flew out from under your ass

1:07:31I saw that it was so long ago but I can actually skate now I compete I compete I be at the skate park and all now

1:07:41Shannon Sharpe:Astral said Uncle Ocho when y 'all weren't partying or outside in college, what do you guys do? Love the show. Much love. Well, I ain't party. I went to one party in four years of college. I was in my room reading GQ, thinking about what I was going to be doing in four years, five years, what my NFL career is going to look like. That's what I was doing, doing homework. Yeah. Honestly, for those that know me, those in the chat, if you follow me long enough, as long as I've been on social media, you know I don't party, you know I don't club, you know I don't drink. gaming high school gaming college I was gaming yeah I just probably clubbing I don't drink so therefore I don't want to be around people that do drink because people that drink they like to have conversations they be talking about stuff they start three conversations and I ain't interested in none of them in none of it and then the music be too loud and then people step on your shoes and crowd I don't like that I mean obviously you couldn't party during the season because you was in your room to have bread checked on Friday and then Saturday game.

1:08:44Shannon Sharpe:And so once the season was over, I mean, I got a girlfriend my junior year and senior year, so once the season was over, we'd go to the movies. You know, I had a little bread, Ocho. You know, I'd go out camp, you know, get in a little room. Yeah, you know, bro made sure I was straight, but I was not a part of your man. Timber Norwood Jr. said, Unc, I can't believe Ocho got an iPhone 17. Hold on! Ocho got an iPhone 17 but won't pay you$5 ,900, the next time you're in Dallas for a bottle siding, I'm coming to see. Ocho. Who got an iPhone 17? You did? No, I didn't. Let me see it, Ocho. Hold your phone up.

1:09:22My phone? I don't got no...

1:09:25Shannon Sharpe:Man, don't you... This man really... Hey, Ocho, let me tell you something. I was asking before Upgrade. I still had the iPhone 12. I had the iPhone 12. So I need y 'all to tell, Chad, what should I do to Ocho? Chad, come on, Chad. Y 'all keep on saying, man, let Ocho live. Ocho trying to get endorsement deal. What that got to do with my 5900? Listen, you're not listening to me, I done had the iPhone 12 for the longest. So I went to go pay my cell phone bill. and they told me about me being able to, oh, you got to upgrade. You haven't got a new phone in a long time. Like, well, you mean I ain't got to pay nothing?

1:10:13So they said, yeah, if you pay your phone bill, you can switch out the phone. So I ain't really pay nothing.

1:10:18Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, you pay something. You got to pay X amount of dollars. You can get an upgrade, but you got to pay for it. No. I had the iPhone 12. I went from the 12 to the 17. I didn't have to pay nothing. You got to pay something. Yeah, I had to pay my phone bill. My phone bill was like$120. No, and you're going to have to pay$100 so they put the new upgrade in your phone bill. No, no, no, no. That's not... Yeah, it's$20,$30 a month. That's okay, Ocho. I mean, chat, chat, chat. As you start a poll, what should Ocho do to Ocho after Ocho refuses to give him his money? I'm not refusing. I'm just waiting for my money to get right.

1:10:57Shannon Sharpe:Hold on. You done got LB tracksuit. You done got a new iPhone. You done got all this new stuff. You got a new house. You got all this stuff.

1:11:09Me? I got you. I got you. I got you.

1:11:15Shannon Sharpe:Serial P said, can we get a shout out to Ocho's college quarterback, Jay Smith, and my daughter's Michigan State Spartans, as we battle USC tonight at 11. Go green. Wait, that game ain't start yet? Yeah, it should have started. Yeah, Jonathan Smith. That's my high school quarterback. He coaching? Yeah, he the head coach at Michigan State. Is he? Yeah, yeah. He left Oregon State. Now he's at Michigan State. Well, I didn't know that. Congratulations. Ocho, Tornel's Green, who goes 0-3 tomorrow? Who goes 1-2? 0-3. I guess you're looking at Chiefs. Wait, who's got? They play the Giants. Who else hasn't won a game yet?

1:12:09Oh, it can get ugly for the Chiefs, boy. Oh, my goodness.

1:12:14Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. You taking the Chiefs to go 1-2 or 0-3? Hey, honestly, I mean, my home's going to figure it out. I don't see them going to 0-3. And if they go to 0-3, is it time to hit the panic button? I don't know. Do you hit the panic button with a quarterback like Mahomes and what he's done in the past? I don't know. I don't know. That's a good one. That might be the best game of the day, honestly. That might be the best game of the day. Who else haven't won a game that we were suspecting to win a game? Goddamn Colts. The Colts play tomorrow? Yeah, they play Tennessee. That's who I want to see. I mean, Colts-Tennessee is really not an exciting game or the game that people want to see.

1:12:57I want to see if God goddamn Daniel Jones is for real. Or is it a situation like Baker Mayfield or a situation like Sam Donald? You know, Sam Donald goes to Minnesota. All of a sudden, all world. Baker Mayfield goes to Tampa Bay. All of a sudden, all world. It's just the right situation. I want to see if the Indianapolis Colts just happens to be the right situation for Daniel Jones. It might be. But guess who else had that exact situation? Who?

1:13:24Shannon Sharpe:Anthony Richardson.

1:13:28Shannon Sharpe:that's that exact situation yeah you're right and guess who you had that exact situation that uh jj mccarthy got that sam donald jj mccarthy mhm jason said what's up uggen ocho my birthday is tomorrow can i get a shot i also go caves yes jason happy birthday happy birthday twin enjoy spending with family friends and loved ones tell them you love them hopefully they tell you they love you and you got something real nice dr frankie l belliman say hey fam uh That shade by LaPorte is so smooth. From now on, you should be known as the Konyak King. You're welcome. Thank you, Doc. I appreciate the support.

1:14:04Shannon Sharpe:You've been supporting Nightcap, Club Shea Shea, and LaPorte, all things. 84, we appreciate that, Doc, because you've been one of the very first ones to follow Nightcap. You've been a mod for a long time. And every time Ocho and I show up, Atlanta, you were here in Atlanta. You was here at New Orleans. You came to the very first one in Las Vegas. So Doc, Ocho, and I, the Nightcap family, we can't thank you enough. We appreciate the support.

1:14:35Shannon Sharpe:Ocho. Yo. Here's a skateboard video. This is Ocho on the skateboard. Yeah, this is old. I forgot what year this was too, huh? You see I got my cigar in my mouth too. See, I can skate. No, you can't. No, I mean, no, no. I mean, I can skate for real. I mean, I can skate for real. I was just trying to do some damn trick and the cigar in my mouth is the reason why I failed. What the trick, go ahead and get it. Rob-Ocho. Ocho.

1:15:11Shannon Sharpe:Why the birthday hit? Rob. Damn. I was good, though. I was good. I was good, though. I was good. But see the funny thing, that's about, that might be six, seven years old. Now, you know, I ride at a skate park down here in downtown Miami. Ocho, six or seven years later, it still hurt. Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, I'm good. I'm a real skater, though. I got to do everything. Do everything. You a real something. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I'm your favorite, Shannon Sharp, my partner and co-host, Liberty City's own Madding Dratings Adjuster. He's a Ring of Fame honoree, a former Pro Bowler All-Pro.

1:15:50Shannon Sharpe:He's Chad Ochocinco Johnson. We want to thank our special guests for joining us to help break down college football. Texas A &M, great. Heisman Trophy winning. First round draft pick of the Cleveland Browns, Johnny Manziel. Thank you, Johnny. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. And do us a favor, go subscribe to the Nightcap Podcast feed wherever you get your podcasts from. We'd like to thank each and every one of you for your support and your continued support. Make sure you check out Shea Bala-Portier. If you can't find it in a city or a state near you, order it online.

1:16:22Shannon Sharpe:We'll ship it directly to your door. Please rate responsibly and stay safe. Go follow my media company page on all of its platforms, Shea Shea Media, and my clothing company, 84, with 84 being spelled out. That link is also pinned in the chat. The Miami Hurricanes throttled the Florida Gators 26-7. Billy Napier is really, really on thin ice. He's going to have to get this thing turned around. if he wants to stay head coach of the University of Florida. I'm Unk. He's Ocho. We'll see you tomorrow night. I'm ready for tomorrow night. After Sunday Night Football. Let's go, gang.

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