Nightcap Hour 2: Unc & Ocho FED UP with Stefanski in Shedeur DRAMA + Embiid LOOKS WASHED + LeBron NOT FOCUSED? + Wemby DOMINATES Cooper Flagg in NBA DEBUT

23 Oct 2025 · 1 h 22 min · 30 chapters

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In short

Episode topic: Sports talk across NFL, NBA, and some media/soccer segments. Main focus is NFL quarterback reps and excuses (Stefanski/Sanders, Tua/Waddle), plus NBA season-opening reactions (Sixers rookie debut, LeBron/Lakers engagement, Wembanyama dominance, Cooper Flagg role fit, Ja Morant/Zion health and performance). Guests/hosts: The episode features two recurring hosts, Joe and “Unc/Ocho” (no other guests named in the provided transcript).

Guest backgrounds

Not applicable—no guest bios are given; they’re commentators discussing current sports.

Key claims

  1. Stefanski is wrong to withhold first-team reps from Shedeur Sanders; hosts argue he should get 1–2 reps even in a 10-play starter series.
  2. Tua’s explanation about not targeting Jalen Waddle due to visibility/height is criticized as excuses; hosts say QBs should anticipate and make plays regardless of height.
  3. LeBron’s “not focused” vibe is attributed to sciatica limiting engagement and conditioning timeline.
  4. NBA: VJ Edgecombe’s debut is praised; Embiid looks less explosive/laboring.
  5. Wembanyama dominates; Cooper Flagg’s point-guard usage is questioned.

Notable examples

  • Shedeur Sanders vs Dylan Gabriel first-team reps; Patriots defense expected to stack the box.
  • Tua/Waddle: “four targets, one catch” referenced.
  • Sixers: Edgecombe 34 points (rookie debut record), Maxey 40; Embiid 1-for-9 and 20 minutes.
  • NBA: Wemby 31 points/10 rebounds/3 blocks; Flagg 0 points at halftime, then minimal scoring; Ja Morant 35 points in win; Zion 27 points.

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Debate Over Shadour Sanders' Reps

2:46 to 6:00

Hosts discuss the implications of Shadour Sanders not receiving first-team reps.

“Special teams do what they do whether it was punt, punt, return, kick, kick, return, whatever the case may be.”

Tua's Struggles and Accountability

6:00 to 9:55

Hosts evaluate Tua's recent performances and his comments about height.

“Yeah, even if it ain't nothing but a handoff.”

Challenges for Miami's Offense

9:55 to 14:01

Discussion on Miami's offensive struggles in the absence of Tyreek Hill.

“Ocho, why would you make an excuse to like, oh yeah, because I'm not the tallest guy back there and they're not the tallest.”

Quarterback Concerns: Tua's Performance

14:01 to 16:45

Discussion about Tua's struggles and the impact of his offensive line.

“I don't know if his offensive line is that good.”

Sponsorship Message from NBC News

16:45 to 17:28

A brief ad segment promoting clear reporting from NBC News.

“Hey, them boys ain't nothing nice here in Atlanta, boy.”

Cowboys Trade Talks: Max Crosby

21:27 to 24:11

Discussion about potential trades for Max Crosby and the Cowboys' defense.

“The Cowboys have reached out to the Raiders about the potential trade for Max Crosby or Trey Wingo.”

NBA Debut Highlights and Embiid's Struggles

24:11 to 28:00

Overview of VJ Edgecomb's impressive debut and concerns about Embiid's performance.

“Hey, hey, he got, I mean, you go back and look at it.”

Rookie Highlights: VJ and the Sixers

28:00 to 30:24

Discussion on VJ's performance and potential in the NBA as a rookie.

“He is an elite athlete, and he's going to be perfect for the Sixers.”

NBA Game Insights and Player Dynamics

30:24 to 33:06

Analysis of player roles and strategies in the NBA, focusing on current matchups.

“Well, they got me hyped for basketball season, boy.”

Comments on Current NBA Season

33:06 to 34:06

Discussion on LeBron's engagement and performance amidst injury concerns.

“Hey, Joe, I was out there facilitating like magic.”
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34:06 to 35:00

Hoda Kotb's podcast exploring inspiration and joy through conversation.

“Hey, I'm Hoda Kotb, host of the podcast Joy 101 with Hoda Kotb.”

Ja Morant's Performance and Injury Concerns

38:03 to 42:00

Analysis of Ja Morant's performance in the game and discussion on injury risks.

“Oh, Joe Ocho, the vibes surrounding LeBron situation with the Lakers have not been the best per Javon Buha.”

Discussing Ja Morant's Play and Injuries

42:00 to 43:14

Learn about the impact of Ja Morant's injuries on his performance and potential MVP candidacy.

“But their third game in Memphis, Memphis was up 30 points before Ja got hurt and OKC walked their lead.”

Zion Williamson's Performance and Expectations

43:14 to 44:18

Explore Zion Williamson's recent game stats and the ongoing debate about his consistency and health.

“Hey, look, we got to give Zion some credit too.”

Understanding Sciatica vs. Cicadas

44:18 to 45:07

Engage in a humorous mix-up between cicadas and sciatica, discussing the latter's effects.

“The smallest man ever to lead the league and rebounded.”

NBA Finals Trophy and Court Design

45:07 to 47:26

Debate the significance of displaying the Larry O'Brien trophy on the court during finals.

“It's like a sharp shooting pain from like your glute, from your low back to your glute all the way down to your foot.”

Predicting NBA Finals Contenders

47:26 to 49:14

Analyze potential teams for the NBA Finals and the factors influencing their chances.

“Who's your favorite, Joe, to win the finals this year?”

Comparing Giannis and Amari Stoudemire

49:14 to 51:21

Discuss similarities and differences between Giannis Antetokounmpo and Amari Stoudemire's playing styles.

“They got six guys, legit guys, that can play defense.”

Desire for Enhanced NBA Coverage

51:21 to 56:00

Explore the potential for improved analytical coverage in NBA broadcasts to enhance fan understanding.

“But Giannis, man, he ain't going to be denied now.”

Analyzing NBA Coverage Innovations

56:00 to 59:15

Explore how NBA coverage can be enhanced to improve fan understanding.

“I'm not interested in how the team scored.”

Q&A: Lakers and NBA Insights

1:02:56 to 1:06:06

Discussion on the Lakers' playoff potential and early NBA season performances.

“It's time for our final segment of the evening.”

Wemby and NBA Rookie Standouts

1:06:06 to 1:10:00

Analyzing Victor Wembanyama's impact and performance in the NBA debut.

“Ricky said Wimby putting the league on notice tonight.”

Clippers vs. Jazz: Game Insights

1:10:00 to 1:12:55

Discussing the recent Clippers vs. Jazz game and player performances.

“Utah scored 43 in the first, 35 in the second.”

The Case for Retirement

1:12:55 to 1:13:19

A debate on whether certain quarterbacks should retire due to declining performance.

“Wizard P, is it time to stop sugarcoating these quarterbacks that have passed their prime?”

NFL Quarterback Performances

1:13:20 to 1:16:39

Analyzing current performances of various NFL quarterbacks.

“Joe Flacco had an outstanding game the other night.”

NBA Legends: Tim Duncan and Friends

1:16:40 to 1:19:41

A discussion on Tim Duncan's legacy and comparisons with other basketball legends.

“This is when James Harden was averaging like what boy?”

Betting and Sports Rivalries

1:19:42 to 1:21:44

Lighthearted banter surrounding sports betting and team rivalries.

“Hey, and I know we playing in Denver, but hold on.”

Family Stories and Life Lessons

1:21:45 to 1:27:04

Sharing personal family anecdotes and lessons learned from elders.

“How you a cowboy fan that got an 85 jersey on?”

Season Predictions and Excitement

1:27:04 to 1:27:45

Discussion about the upcoming sports season and the excitement it brings.

“Now we got a year in our belt with Joe Man.”

Lighthearted Banter and Inside Jokes

1:27:45 to 1:32:13

A humorous exchange between hosts centered on past performances and playful insults.

“So are you putting your back or are you putting your butt on him?”
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2:46Shannon Sharpe:oh Joe Joe Kevin Stefanski says Shadour Sanders is not getting any first team reps like Dylan Gabriel like he did like Dylan Gabriel did when Joe Flacco was the starter Stefanski said it's because Gabriel being young you want to make sure he's getting a lot of reps it's different when you have a vet like Joe oh Joe what you think is this normal protocol hell nah you know that ain't normal protocol you should be doing the same exact thing you were doing with joe flacco and dylan gabriel now dylan gabriel is starting you should be doing the same thing you were doing with dylan gabriel and joe flacco well goddamn shador it's a bunch of trash and all that is telling me is that shador is not closer to getting the starting job until dylan gabriel shows that he just can't get the job done and i'm and that's why i say they're probably maybe maybe towards the end of the season maybe last three weeks dylan gabriel at some point teams are going to force him you're gonna have to beat beat us with your arm we're not going we're not going to allow allow qj to run up and down the field they're going to play they're going to stack nine in the box you're going to have to prove that you can beat us with your arm that's it yeah you're right i mean i think look everywhere i've been even when we had veteran quarterbacks or whatever he get one or two reps i know obviously if you normally i don't know how it was but we had 10 plays.

4:03Shannon Sharpe:We ran 10 plays per period. Offense got 10. Defense got 10. Offense got 10. Defense got 10. Okay? Special teams do what they do whether it was punt, punt, return, kick, kick, return, whatever the case may be. And then guess what, Ocho? Another 10, another 10, another 10, number 10, so forth and so on. But you mean to tell me Shadour can't get one rep, two reps with the starters? Out of 10 reps, he can't get one. What would that do? That would be wasting time. Getting one or two reps with the starter is wasting time and obviously on Stefanski's side also it can give Dylan Gabriel some type of um what's the word I'm looking for some type of um security okay my job is not in jeopardy I'm not playing as well as I think I should be playing so I'm getting all the reps to make sure that those reps actually count in practice and once I get into the games I'm familiar with those situations.

5:01That's all. I can see it from that point too as a coach wanting him to get all the reps so he can get a little bit more comfortable with the situations based on it ain't the preseason I'm on. It ain't the preseason. Listen, they playing the goddamn Patriots this goddamn Sunday and that defense man, look here. All that check down here and check down there and trying to stay with them.

5:27Shannon Sharpe:They're going to be sitting on everything. everything hey look I can't see it I don't see how he can't get no rep man you don't know what's gonna happen this the NFL bro you one play away so now when the guy goes in because he ain't getting no reps you can talk about like I said Joe I agree with you I'm not saying Ocho you split it five and five but he can't get one to two reps in a ten play series yeah I understand what you mean I understand. Even if it ain't nothing but a handoff. That's what I'm saying. It don't make no sense to me, man. A handoff? Yeah, even if it ain't nothing but a handoff.

6:07Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, I'm sure Shadour would like to throw the ball. But just, hey, let him see the blocking with the first team. Oh, let him see the mesh point with the first team running back. It's simple. It seems simple. Let him take a snap from the guy that's going to be in the game. I look and I get it and I understand like you said Ocho that you know Gabriel needs a lot of reps but I don't think you stud his growth I don't think you harm him in any way if you give Shadour one to two reps in a 10 play series I don't I'm with you like we saying man it's the NFL you never know when you're going to need Shadour it's a long season hey look man you get him out there and he ain't had no reps with with none of the guys now it's gonna seem foreign to him i see you still putting in the work but man listen you gotta get that man a couple of reps in practice man come on now because at the end of the day everybody look good in practice i want to know what you when you get in the game but if you haven't done it in the game it's hard to come in off the just come in and just go yeah because it's it's it's a thousand it's a thousand times faster in the game than what it is in practice.

7:22Shannon Sharpe:And guys be moving in practice. But boy, that thing is warp speed come game time. You come in that game, them guys already lathered up. They've been, they've already played a quarter or two. One play. Oh yeah, they hunting. They hunting. Woo, Ocho, Joe. Another day, another bizarre statement from Tua at the presser. Let's take a listen to what Tua had to say today, Ocho. Yeah, I think with that, some of it has to do with being able to see guys, with their guys also up front and our guys. And I'm not the tallest guy in the back there either. So being able to see and then sometimes when that happens, you don't want to just throw it blindly and you got to progress.

8:09So I think that that had some merit to reasons as to why that happened for Waddle. I think he's referring to Jalen Waddell not getting any targets in the previous game that he just played against the Browns. Now, when? No, I don't think so. I don't think he even had any catches. But that goes to say, two is not that tall. Well, hell, neither is Kyler Murray. Well, neither is Baker Mayfield. Neither is some other quarterbacks that are including Doug Flutie. Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson. but all of them find a way to get the job done so we we can't use oh the offensive line with tall oh the d line i can't see it's all about anticipation understanding targets one catch

8:52Shannon Sharpe:ojo yep come on now wow four targets one catch that's that's your best weapon outside of devon that's your best weapon so you have to be able to get in the ball tyree kill is gone who's the next speedster that can move the chains who's your next home run waller is out also he's a pec muscle. Yeah. I mean. Oh, Joe, what y 'all got going on down in Miami? I don't know, Joe. Joe, I don't know. I don't know, Joe. Honestly, to me, at this point, I say you blow the whole thing up. I say blow the whole thing up and just start on this track. I think that lady was in Georgia. When she told that police officer when he arrested, you about to lose your job.

9:36Shannon Sharpe:You about to lose your job. I don't like going to talk himself out of that job, Ocho. Dude making some money over that old aunt. That's okay. They're going to have to eat that. A team that worth$7 billion will eat$55 million. That's a tax write-off.

9:56Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, why would you make an excuse to like, oh yeah, because I'm not the tallest guy back there and they're not the tallest. What? I don't know. I guarantee you, Ocho, when he went in for his interviews, he ain't mentioned his height one time. He didn't mention one time that he has a problem seeing over linemen, seeing down the field. What do you think the chances are, Ocho, when he was going in on his interviews, that he mentioned his height? No.

10:28They got passing lanes for a reason. You anticipate throws for a reason. Tua is a very, very, very good above average Rhythm Quarterback His anticipatory Skills are really good That's how he plays That's how he runs the offense

10:55Shannon Sharpe:It just seems like Ocho The more he talks the worse it gets And I understand as a quarterback Ocho you gotta have that pressure Normally it's on Wednesday or Thursday Some quarterbacks some of them have it on Thursday Some of them have it on Wednesday So he has to talk He's the starting quarterback. Boy, he's not doing himself any favors. Shouldn't he have some type of training and what to say? He should have had the training already. He went to Alabama. Alabama, make sure you get all that. Hey, look, you got to cut out the excuses, man, and have some accountability at the end of the day. At the end of the day.

11:30Shannon Sharpe:That's what it comes down to. That's it. That's tough. Just say you got to play better, man. That's – Ta-da. That's it. You say you got to play better. And stop, you know, dancing around and coming up with all these excuses. Just, he just, I mean, like I said, the more he talks, the worse it gets. He threw his teammates under the bus. And the thing was, he threw them under the bus after he had one of his worst games of the year, if you can believe that, because all of them, ain't none of them been really good. And then he follows that up with another stinker. Yeah. Yeah. So back-to-back, excuse me, back-to-back week, three interception games.

12:11Shannon Sharpe:And that's what we're supposed to follow? He got 10 on the season so far, huh? I think so. I'm assuming he would be leading the NFL in interceptions. No, I think Gino got that one. Oh, shit. I think Gino got that on lock. I seen what coach was like. I hope he don't get 10. He might. Yeah. Oh, Tua and Gino are tied. How many? Both of them got 10. Damn. damn I just at some point in time you know you just have to be like you know what you gotta do the you gotta do the presser cause you're the starting quarterback but there gonna be a quick time Mocho if he keep playing like this guess what he won't have to do it yours or Zach Wilson will be doing the presser right damn man cause they can't I understand he makes a lot of money right But you got 52 other guys in that locker room, Ocho, that you have an account for now.

13:12Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. And they see he not playing well. And it's a lot easier when you're not playing well and we don't like you because you already did some slick-ish. Yeah. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? Yeah. There's only one way to overcome this. I mean, for Tua's sake. And that's what you play. Now, they might not look at you the same as a teammate anymore. but if you continue to play bad it's going to get even worse I don't see how he played better Ocho Ocho if you look at this team they needed Tyreek to open things up Tyreek could take the top off it gave everybody else an opportunity to work up underneath so there was so much space it's kind of like you're on the court with Steph Curry there's going to be a lot of space because they're going to be trying to crowd him well with no Steph on the court who i why i need the crowd i can condense it now i ain't gotta worry about nobody right same thing with no tyree i'm not nearly as worried about wattle as i once was right and then who else i got they don't have a very good offensive line tour tour is not fast hell if i shut down the run where he going if i play cover five oh if i play two man what you are going who's he out running

14:31Shannon Sharpe:and like you said he already said he's not the tallest guy and the fact that he's not a dual threat joe you know he has to be that he is better he'll do a threat he'll either throw a pick or fumble it so he'll do a threat oh i know what you

14:50Shannon Sharpe:you mean running and passing the football okay i thought you meant drew with the... Hey, that's messed up. Hey, he can get better, man. It's still early in the season. All right. I don't... How many times have he been sacked? I don't know if his offensive line is that good. And he ain't much better. Oh, it looked like one time they just let the... They let the defense just come in and say, yeah, since you snitching. Hey, they act like that in football, huh? Yeah. You doing all this talking to the media Yeah we gonna let these pass rushers Get right on up in there He done got benched so He might have had more how many times did they Sack yours once he came in the game Cause they put them on his head too But he's still the starter though ain't he Yeah I don't know for how much longer Joe but he is Oh so they put him back in This week They haven't said it well he did say He said he's the starter and his expectation Is he doesn't throw 10 picks Oh, yeah.

15:50I mean, well, hell, you make it 50 million a year. He ain't got no choice but to start.

15:53Shannon Sharpe:Yellow. Yeah.

15:59Shannon Sharpe:Right. So, I mean, there are a lot of quarterbacks that have been sacked more than Tua that don't turn the ball over like Tua.

16:09Shannon Sharpe:So you can't you can't turn the ball over and take a bunch of sacks. In fact, who we got this? Who we got? Because a lot of times, we said, OK, he's taking sacks to avoid turnovers. But you turning the ball over still. It's just, I think for me, it's just going to be a situation he got to go, Ocho. Hey, we, we, man, we got, we got the Falcons this week. Oh. Yeah, y 'all, what you call, Bijon about to go for like 150. In Atlanta? In Atlanta? Yes. In Atlanta. Hey, them boys ain't nothing nice here in Atlanta, boy. Oh, they on that turf. They got something. And then it looked like we got the Ravens right after that in a short week, Thursday night.

16:55Shannon Sharpe:Lamar be back, won't he? Yep. He was practicing. He practicing. Yeah. I turned off news altogether. I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything. It's the rage bait. It feels like it's trying to divide people. If we got clear facts, maybe we can calm down a little. NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News, reporting for America. Hey, I'm Hoda Kotb, host of the podcast Joy 101 with Hoda Kotb. Okay, if you know me, you know this. I'm always searching for inspiration, for support, and useful tools to help maximize joy. So this podcast lets us uncover all of that together.

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20:52The expanded field of teams has created some incredible matchups that have already made this World Cup one to remember. And now things get even more exciting with the intensity of the knockout rounds as the field is whittled down to one World Cup champion on July 19th. When you say it like that, I get a pain in my heart that the tournament is over. But there's a lot of soccer yet to go. And if the first few games of the round of 32 are any indication, anything is possible in the lead up to the final. We've got it covered from an ultra's perspective here on the away end. So listen to the away end with Daniel Alricone and John Green on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

21:34Good luck.

21:35Shannon Sharpe:Oh, Joe, Joe, Joe, you are like this. The Cowboys have reached out to the Raiders about the potential trade for Max Crosby or Trey Wingo. Joe, would you like to see your squad make this trade? Man, come on. Hey, look. Hey, one thing y 'all got to get. Hey, listen, listen. Okay, Ocho, y 'all got to give us some props now because we've been doing our thing, all right? You tighten us up a little more on defense, we can get Crosby. Man, it's going to be a real problem then. Well, listen. Yeah, we need somebody who's reckless abandoning on that defense end, man, who can help us out. Get to that quarterback, man.

22:10Yeah.

22:10Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, them boys with him. The boys with the pressure that he can generate. you know Perry with Sam Williams they got a nice they'll have a nice little squad now boys looking good man I know Jerry took a lot of heat from not signing Parsons so he making some moves around now he making some moves but you do realize to get Crosby them two first round picks you got to give them up now that don't make sense you're going to give up your two first round picks right to go get Matt Crosby when you let one of the younger better pass rushers. You two years younger. It makes no sense, Joe. You could just take care of your first pass rush.

22:50Shannon Sharpe:What's the price? He was cheaper, though. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You're talking about$12 million a year cheaper. Okay. Hey, we got this high-powered offense over here, man. We need something to back up on this defensive end. We putting up all that positive. Come on now. Y 'all need one centerpiece, whether it be a D-end, whether it be a huge D-tackle. I mean, hell, you could even get somebody really good on the back end, you know, another superstar corner. that might be on the market. Who? Huh? Who? Oh, Trayvon? I don't know if he's going to play this week. Jerry was kind of mum with Trayvon and whether or not he's going to play this week.

23:29Shannon Sharpe:I mean, there's a lot of speculation of what transpired, what caused the concussion. I don't know. I don't feel like speculating. Everybody see it. I mean, everybody in Dallas, a lot of people in the chat They must have been at the house when the alleged incident supposedly happened.

23:51Shannon Sharpe:I told you last year, Ochoa, if I was the Eagles, I would have reached out. If I was the Lions, I would have reached out to the Raiders. Right. But you know, the Raiders might just... Listen, the Raiders probably going to say no. Why? Max Crosby is the Raiders' identity. yep mack crosby is the face of that organization i mean the chance of them actually letting them go is slim to none unless the package deal is absolutely worth it for the foreseeable future as far as picks two first round picks oh they got what what did they hold up they gave they think about what the package gave up to get michael parsons oh yeah first round picks and a former pro bowl player in kenny clark I think they'll get up off.

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24:41Yeah, probably. When's the deadline? November 4th. Oh, that's right around the corner.

24:47Shannon Sharpe:Uh-huh. Damn. What, two weeks? Hey, them Cowboys. Them boys in business, man. Hey, they look good, boy. That offense, man, Jesus Christ. Yeah, they look good. You can't... I ain't even finna lie. got cd came back looking good pickens williams look good devontae williams i think he's like second in the league second or third in the league in russian yeah oh he played he played they got two they got two ones at wide out dac is dealing the back is looking better than at any point in time in his career and he's had some seasons in which you throw the ball but the way he's spinning it around hey hey hey dakota prescott ain't playing man hey look yeah man He look like he in great shape too.

25:35Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. He lost some weight. Hey, hey, he got, I mean, you go back and look at it. He got married and got a family. Look, there you go. There you go. Hey, remember what I told you, right? Yeah. You notice how everyone that's putting the ring on their finger and get married, showing I have structure, I have discipline. All right, this is my foundation. I'm going to build from here on out. Yeah. You notice that everybody is flourishing, right? wow all right now all right listen we don't we don't have to wait two years i'm gonna pick up what you're putting down now oh okay stay with you like yeah joe i'm gonna hey he put it down i'm gonna pick it up we ain't gotta wait two years number three overall draft pick vj edgecomb had one hell of a rookie debut tonight against the celtics edgecomb 14 points in the first quarter broke lebron's rookie record most points in the first quarter in an nba debut and he wasn't done 34 points are the most points in the sixers rookie debut surpassing alan iverson's record of 30 in 1996 against the buck escombe 34 tyrese maxi fouled it joel and bead only played only played 20 minutes he still uh but he had four points but those two That backcourt went crazy.

27:02Shannon Sharpe:Say it with me. They went crazy. Tyrese Maxon played 41 minutes. He was 13 of 24. 7 of 9 from 3. 7 of 9 from the free throw line, 40 points. Edgecombe played 42 minutes. He was 13 of 26. 5 of 13. 3 of 6 from the free throw line for 34. So the backcourt combined for 74 of the 117. That ain't it, Ocho Hey, um Embiid look like he laboring, man I know he won one for nine, but He don't look Explosive anymore You know what I mean? Joe, you know they can only go in your knees so many times They can only go in your back so many times And that's a big man It is I mean, Joe, you know that You know getting up and down that court Trying to play those minutes He rehabbed you know to be in shape you gotta train rehabbing just gets you back to where you were training takes you to the next level he hasn't been able to train he's been rehabbing just trying to get back to the point go ahead Joe I understand that and you know what his body does look good he does look like he in shape he just doesn't look explosive now I'm gonna tell y 'all something about this VJ kid this rookie that man said him and his mama lived off a generator He playing for a different reason.

28:26Shannon Sharpe:You hear me? Yeah. I'm for real, Ocho. Hey, you look at that boy's body. He look like a sprinter out there. He look like he run track. That man is in elite shape. He is an elite athlete, and he's going to be perfect for the Sixers. That man put up 26 shots tonight, man. Mm-hmm. As a rookie, Ocho, playing with MB and Maxie. Hold on. I got a question for you, Joe. What's up? Where do Paul George fit in this mix? Uh-oh. Them two guards. Well, first off, you can't take this young boy out. I know. You can't take him out because in summer league, he showed promise. In the preseason, he showed promise.

29:05Shannon Sharpe:And now, first game of the season, he's came out. He's competed at a high level. Man played 42 minutes. Man, I'm talking about he balled out, bro. Like, you can't play more minutes than anybody. Yeah, you can't taper that down. You want him to continue to be aggressive, to continue to assert himself on both ends of the floor. because he can dominate both ends of the floor. He's a hell of a two-way player. I love him. I love him. Hold on, Joe. Hold on now. Hold on. He's a two-way player. He was dominant tonight. As good as he looks, all the multiple things that he can do, when Paul George comes back, young Bull's going to have to go to the bench.

29:40No, he ain't. He ain't.

29:41Shannon Sharpe:Whoever this Barlow dude is up here, he's going to have to go to the bench. And Oubre is going to have to move to the floor or something. They're not taking that boy out there lining up. Nah, he's the number three pick. Yeah, he ain't coming off no bench. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, he doing exactly what they want him to do. And that's be aggressive. Right. Make plays on both ends of the floor. And, man, look, he plays great off of Maxie. Like, this young backcourt here got some promise, bro. And they scored 42 points in the fourth quarter. Yeah, they weren't playing. They weren't playing. Them boys, Nasson.

30:19Shannon Sharpe:And that was in Boston. That was on the road. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, they got me hyped for basketball season, boy. Oh, man. Put that ball down, man. Listen, that thing nasty, boy. It nasty. Ocho, you got chill. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe, let's go to a Hawke game, Joe. I mean, say less. Which way you want to go to? Man, I don't know. You know, I got to be in Atlanta Tuesday. Tuesday? Yeah, I fly in Monday. I got to film something with Cam. Let me see who they are. Hey, man, we go to a game and sit course, I get some hot dogs and stuff. Wimby doing a number on the Mavericks. Wimby got 31, 11 of 17, 31 points, 10 rebounds, three blocks, a steal, an assist.

31:14They playing the Mavs. What are Cooper Flagg doing?

31:18Shannon Sharpe:Hey, that's what I'm going to say. Man, Cooper Flagg won eight. He had zero points at the half. He won for eight. Two points. Minus 22. Can I tell y 'all something? I'm being honest with y 'all. I like Cooper Flagg game. Yeah. And I know J. Kidd is going to get the most out of him, but I don't know about him playing this point guard, guys. No, no, no. I don't know. Hold on. The point, why he not at the four? Man, they got 80. Anthony Davis is at the four. Who the hell at the five? They got Derrick Lively II at the 5 They got PJ at the 3 They got AD at the 4 They got Kluper Flagg at the point And they got Klay at the 2 That's not right at all That's not right They need a point guard Hey listen, it's third quarter He a minus 23 Damn It's the same thing with the Rockets The Rockets need a point guard Thompson, look Look, I like Almond Thompson.

32:15Shannon Sharpe:He's a phenomenal player, but he's not a point. Yeah, they stroking that ball up the court yesterday, man. Hey, they whole goddamn lineup, everybody's 6 '11". 6 '7", yeah. Almond Thompson is the shortest. Everybody else 6 '11". Yeah. Shingun, KD, Porter. Jabari Smith. Yeah, Jabari, excuse me, Jabari Smith and Stephen Adams. Yeah. And them boys, tall as hell, man. Joe, how tall you at, Joe? 6 '8". I said, golly. Hey, I thought I was tall at 6 '4", man. Them boys is cheap. 6 '4"? Who's 6 '4"? Me. Hey, a lot don't care who tell it. This boy here, though. Hey, Joe, I'm 6 '4". Joe, you ain't never seen me in person?

33:02Oh, Joe, man, we just got back on here, man.

33:04Shannon Sharpe:I like hanging out with y 'all, man. But you got to stop it, man. Joe, you ain't never seen me in person? Cut it out. Joe, tell him to cut it out. What's wrong with it? You got to chill, my boy. I'm 6 '4", Joe. Okay. All right. All right. Hey, I feel like it, though. I play like it, too. I don't know about all that. I seen you play. You need to chill. That was one game. Hey, Joe, I was out there facilitating like magic. No, you're not quite like magic. Magic. I turned off news altogether. I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything. It's the rage bait. It feels like it's trying to divide people.

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35:09American soccer has exploded. The knockout rounds are here. The U.S. won their group, and now every match is win or go home. Score!

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38:12Shannon Sharpe:Oh, Joe Ocho, the vibes surrounding LeBron situation with the Lakers have not been the best per Javon Buha. The vibes with the situation have not been the best. I'll say so again I don't really want to go too much down that road but yeah I mean thought there were times just looking at the huddle or looking at the bench that he wasn't engaged as he typically is when he's out oh Joe Joe Joe let me stick with you first Joe what's going on man Bron look focus over there man you ain't hey look he got that poker face over there you don't know what he got going on in that head you know I mean hey he can't he can't do nothing man battling sciatica what y 'all want from him, man.

38:51Shannon Sharpe:They want him to be jumping up and down to talk about, well, if he can do all that, he should be in the game. You know they going to say that, Joe. I don't know if y 'all know what that sciatica is. I know what it's like. Man, listen, you won't even be able to run or bend over or do nothing with that sciatica. It's not a thing. Absolutely not. They're not going to evaluate him for another two weeks. They're planning mid-November, So two weeks is damn near is what? The beginning of November. So and then he's going to have to ramp it up, have to play and try to get, you know, get some on court conditioning.

39:28Shannon Sharpe:Damn. So he might miss. What do you think of Joe? The first 10 to 15 games? Easy, easy, easy. But you know what? Looking at him over there, he do look like he's still in some shape. Now, I know he's working behind the scenes. Oh, yeah, for sure. He ain't coming back. He ain't always be in shape. He ain't coming back to be no average broad. He's going to come back and really get to it. So they definitely could have used him last night. Yeah. They can't play defense. They can't, man. They can't play defense. I mean, you got, look, Luka tried, but Luka can't play no defense. Austin Reeves really can't play no defense because Austin Reeves realized one thing, playing defense won't get me paid.

40:10Shannon Sharpe:Putting ball in basket gets me$30 million. Gets me$40 million. And he's going to get a$200 million deal. Oh, yeah. It's going to be – it's going to be – it should be a little easier for him that Bron ain't out there. You know, I would figure him and Luka – obviously, we know Luka's going to be Luka. But, yeah, Luka had 43-12-9. He went – but, look, he a walking bucket. Luka, you can't stop him. He can do it. He can get to where he want to go. He got it. He's going to play at his pace. You cannot speed him up. He got a big body. He can play through contact. that's his defense huh his offense to try to where you dive on the OB there you go his offense is gonna be his defense hey I don't know what y 'all think this is but yeah his offense is what's gonna make him a hell of a player and what's gonna offset his defense for sure Ja Morant tonight they won 122-128 over the Pelicans Ja 35 points a steal three assists, three rebounds.

41:18Shannon Sharpe:Jaron Jackson had 18. Wells had 14. Jacques Lawndale had 10. They got Prosper, came off the bench, gave him 10. Coward gave him 14. For the Pelicans, Herb Jones had 17. Zion gave you 27. Trey Murphy III gave you 13. Jordan Poole gave you 17. I guess that's Sadiq Bae, came off the bench, gave you 13 and then Fears gave you 17. When you look at this, man, y 'all can say what you want, but if Ja Morant can stay healthy, because I'm going to take y 'all back to the playoffs, Arcan Ocho. They lost them first two games at OKC. But their third game in Memphis, Memphis was up 30 points before Ja got hurt and OKC walked their lead.

42:09Shannon Sharpe:Walked them down, they did. So we don't know how the tables would have turned if that man would have stayed healthy. He is electric, and I love watching him play. I just want to see him stay healthy because he could potentially be in the MVP conversation, man. He'd keep it up. I know it's just first game, but he looked good out there, man, putting pressure on them boys. Yeah. Well, that's the thing. I mean, look, we know what he is. The thing is, because of his body type and because he plays above the rim, that damn court hard. And he falls an awful lot. Now, I know he wear a pad suit. Yeah. But that's still a damn – I mean, as much as he puts – as much pressure as he puts on the defense, getting to the rim, elevating.

42:53Shannon Sharpe:That's a – I mean – With that frame, he got – Yeah. Yeah, with that frame, he's going to be subject to injury. Yeah. He a thin-framed individual. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you know, him and AI got the same goddamn frame. Not the same skill set. I'm just saying the same frame and they always hitting the flow. Yeah. He look good though, man. Hey, look, we got to give Zion some credit too. Cause when he, he held the 27 points, nine rebounds, five assists, five steals. When he playing now, that's what he giving you. We, we look, we ain't nobody ever questioned his ability. We just questioned his availability.

43:33Shannon Sharpe:Right. Right. That's the only thing. That's the only thing we've ever, that's the only thing that we could ever, Question. Yeah. Should he like be a better rebounder? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think he should average double-digit rebounds. If Charles Barkley is 6 '4", can average double-digit rebounds? Zion, you can too because you are more explosive left-handed Charles Barkley. I know he can. That's what you are. Now, Charles taught himself how to shoot mid-range, shoot the three. See, people just look at Charles and all they see him is talking. People don't realize how good Charles Barkley was. Very.

44:10Shannon Sharpe:People don't realize Charles Barkley was hell. Yeah. He led the league and rebounded at 6 '4". The smallest man ever to lead the league and rebounded. Which is crazy. He was a bad boy, man. Me and Barkley the same height? Yeah. That's crazy. Hey, you know what? I forgot to ask. We done went past it already, right? Hey, Joe and Unc, y 'all ever had cicadas? What is that? Cicada is an insect The 17 year cicadas No you mean sciatic

44:44Shannon Sharpe:What is it called? Sciatic It's a sciatic What I called it? Cicadas That's an insect I ain't never had it Ocho But I got a partner Who had it He played ball and he had to sit out a lot of time. Damn. Yeah. It's like a sharp shooting pain from like your glute, from your low back to your glute all the way down to your foot. Go down to your side and make your feet numb. Yeah. Sometimes, I've heard, I've never seen it, I've heard people have it so bad they can't control body function. What? Yeah. Damn. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. Cicadia is an insect Yeah I'm confused 17 year cicadas They come once every 17 years In Cincinnati yeah They caught me one year But I don't know why I thought it just sounded the same It sounds similar so my bad Yeah Yeah I know what he meant I done been around him so long I know exactly what he's talking about Just like when he said George Flintstone I know he meant Fred He just got the two confused between Jordan Jensen and Fred Flintstone.

46:06Shannon Sharpe:I knew exactly what he meant. I messed it up? Damn. Yeah, I knew exactly what you meant. Yeah, I did.

46:18Hey, boy, this basketball season got me hyped, boy.

46:20Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, you know, hey, it's just like old people, when your grandparents used to talk and you knew exactly what they were saying? Yeah. Even if they were wrong, huh? hey basketball Joe the NBA will return to painting the Larry O 'Brien trophy at center court during the finals per Shams this will be the first finals with the large trophy painted on the court since 2009 why do they take it up I don't know I enjoy especially playing you know when the playoffs come you got the playoffs on the court Now it's a regular game in the playoffs. I don't like that, man. Bring the playoffs back. Put the playoffs back on the court.

47:06Shannon Sharpe:Right. Finals get here. Put the big trophy out there. That's what we want to experience, those iconic moments. I'm glad they bringing it back, though. I didn't notice it was gone. Yeah, I did. I did. Because, look, when I was watching the finals, it looked like a regular game. Yeah. Okay. Come on, we ain't got no playoffs on the floor, the finals or nothing. I'm used to seeing that. So you want the trophy in the middle? in the middle. Yes, we used to be at center court. For the finals, yeah. Right. Okay. Yeah, man, dress it up. Give us the bells and whistles, man. Come on now. I like it. I know it's early.

47:42Who's your favorite, Joe, to win the finals this year?

47:47Shannon Sharpe:Woo-wee. I ain't gonna lie to you. I don't know who coming out the East. It could be the... If you make me pick, I would probably say the Knicks or the Cavs because I don't think Boston can get there without Tatum. I definitely don't think the Pacers can get there without Halliburton. Now Turner left and went to Milwaukee. Who knows? Maybe Milwaukee. They do have Giannis. They do have Miles Turner. I don't know who the guards are. You know, Giannis is going to give you 30, 13, and 6. Miles Turner should be able to give you 17 and 10. I don't know. Who you got coming out the West End? I ain't going to lie.

48:35Shannon Sharpe:I got OKC, man. Again? Yeah, I'm going to tell you why, Ocho. When you watch them boys play, man, they don't play like everybody else. They 94 feet. As soon as that ball go in the hoop, they pick you up full court and they weigh you down. Kind of like similar. I know the Rockets probably should have won that game yesterday. No, the Rockets should have lost the regulation because KD called time out and the referee didn't give it to him. You right. But I love how OKC play, man. They just relentless, Ochoa, on both hands, bro. You know what I love about them? Everybody knows their role. Man, and they look like nobody challenges Shea.

49:15Shannon Sharpe:Tell my man, I'm just as good as Shea. I need me shots. They got six guys, legit guys, that can play defense. And they can rotate them. They're not going to be on the court at any point in time where they don't have at least three wing defenders. Right. And when you look at it, they look like a team who enjoy being around each other. Can you tell? Man, that chemistry and continuity that they have. I agree. It doesn't matter who gets to play the game, the whole team standing there listening to the interview, the post-game interview. For me, I think that's dope. I love that. They just look like they really enjoy being around one another.

49:57Shannon Sharpe:And I think with that alone, that's going to take them a long way, bro. That's going to take them a long way. Tonight, the Bucs win 133-120 over the Washington Wizards. Giannis, 37 points, 14 rebounds, five assists. Miles Turner had 11-8. Greg Trent Jr. had 17. Chris Porter Jr. had 10. Kevin Porter. Kevin Porter, yeah, Kevin Porter. Had 10. Green had 11. Tayshaun Prince had 11. And Kyle Kuzma had 12. Okay, Kuzma, there you go, boy. Kuzma came off the bench. Yeah. Hey, Tayshaun Prince. Torian Prince. Torian Prince. Oh. Hey, listen. You look at Tayshaun, your age, bro. He ain't out there. Yeah, yeah.

50:55Shannon Sharpe:Hey, hey, look at Giannis, man. Giannis just, oh, my God. 16 of 26. Hey, hey, Joe. 4-7 from the free throw line. And he coming straight down here, Joe. Yep. Ocho, the man 6 '11", man. 6 '11", except for the, you know, like, what he is doing, you know, obviously before Wimby got into the league. Right. Never seen nothing like that. and now that Wimby is in the league, now he's doing something that we've never seen. But Giannis, man, he ain't going to be denied now. He ain't going out without no fight now. Yeah, that man going to come to play every night. Hey, excuse my lack of knowledge, right?

51:33Go ahead. But would it be unfair or would it be fair to compare a young Amari Stoudemire and the Greek freak? Or am I completely off?

51:48Shannon Sharpe:They got two. They both ferocious when it comes to attacking the rim. The rim, right. But Giannis is more of a ball handler. Yes. Murray was more of a post. Of a finish. But Murray was looking. He stayed in the pick and roll. Yeah. You got to realize he had two-time league MVP, Steve Nash. Steve Nash, yeah. One of the best pick and roll point guards to ever play. Right. So basically, they were John Stockton and Karl Malone. Yeah. Hey, look. But before Nash got there, you know, he had Stephon Marbury. And he won Rookie of the Year over Yao Ming. Like, Amari was ahead of his time, bro. Like, he was relentless, Ocho.

52:25Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Like, I don't think people give him a lot of credit. But the man came out of high school, bro, just with the attitude, like, it don't matter. I'm going through you, not around you. I'm going through you. Like, that's my dog, bro. Like, he's one of the best that will play the game, especially at that position. He was unguardable, bro. Unguardable. it's funny I saw Amari Stoudemire play in high school he played in Miami though they played Miami Northwestern at Miami Northwestern obviously I didn't know any idea who he was back then obviously dominated right and so I remember watching his game a little bit of basketball I watched back then and then seeing the Greek freak play and all I can think about is damn Amari Stoudemire going downhill if you in the way I'm dunking over you you better park the Red Sea and watching the Greek Freak, you in the way, I'm dunking over you.

53:22Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, hey, Lake Wales. Lake Wales, Florida. That's how he used to hot. Lake Wales, Florida. Yeah, that's my guy, man. You see him coming out through the lane, you better part the Red Sea, man. Hey, he coming with bad intentions. Bad every time. You already know it. Him and Greek Freak, when it comes to finishing an attack of that rim, same, bro. Relentantly. They don't care who down there. Yeah, remind me of myself, Joe. Oh, here we go. That's how you used to do it? Yeah, you know, at the junior high school, I used to play on a 10-foot rim. Okay, what happened? I mean, I used to look at the Greek freak, like a Marty Stoudemire.

54:05Shannon Sharpe:No, you ain't look like that, don't you? I'm saying I was a little heavy set. I was a little heavy set back then, back in 87. Nah, nah, nah Nah, we ain't going I gotta hold you accountable, Ocho You gotta stop this, for real Hey, Joe, ask about me, man I went Allapattah Junior High Allapattah Junior High, ask him how I was on them courts, bro You were getting down Yeah, a little something The man Yeah, yeah, a little something How many sports you played in school, Ocho? Soccer, baseball, basketball You did this in high school? You did all that in high school? Yeah, what? What did he do, Ocho? I mean, Joe?

54:47Shannon Sharpe:He said he played soccer, baseball, basketball, and football in high school. I don't know where the man lying, but if I had to... Nah, nah, nah, Joe, I do all... Joe, Joe, you know the seasons overlap. Huh? Football and basketball, they overlap, bro. Oh, no, I was like Deion. Like, Deion played for the Braves and the Falcons. That's how it was in high school. Man, we would have heard about that. You don't think we would have heard about that? I mean, goddamn, Joe, I went to goddamn high school in the 80s. How you gonna hear about that? You ain't went to no high school in no damn 80s.

55:24Shannon Sharpe:I went to the high... I graduated high school in the 80s.

55:31Shannon Sharpe:What's wrong with this man? But yeah, look, like I said, I didn't even notice that they had taken the logo, the Larry O 'Brien trophy at the center. But yeah, they should. I don't know why they took it away. Maybe if people slipping on it or something, I don't know. I mean, you know what? I think, what is it like the decal or something? I think it probably is a little slick. Yeah. Man, with the technology they got now, come on now. Oh yeah, they can fix that. They can fix that.

56:07Shannon Sharpe:Candace Parker says that innovation she'd like to see in NBA coverage would be replicate how analysts cover schemes at a high technical level I'm a big football fan I feel like I learned a lot from blitz coverage and drop to different defenses I never saw until they started showing it in technology I think sometimes players we see things but expect fans to see the game the same way but to be able to kind of like hint to fans that what were coming I think that would be magical Yes, because we see the game. That's the thing. We're fans, but we're analysts. So we're analyzing the game. I'm not interested in how the team scored.

56:45Shannon Sharpe:I want to know how they scored. I want to know how they beat the defense. I want to know what coverage they were in, Ocho. So I need to know, were you in cover four? Were you in cover five? Were you in cover six? Was it six kicks? Was it seven? Was it quarters? That's what I'm interested in. Okay, Ocho, what y 'all in? A three-by-one? Was it empty set? Yeah. was it 11 personnel was it 12 personnel was it 21 personnel was it i don't know fans say they want that but they don't no i don't they don't i don't i don't think so you would you would have to really love like really really love the game yeah it would take it would take away from being a fan right yes that part would take away from actually being a fan that is too much and it can be confusing unless you're really interested in dedicated and devoted to knowing what's actually going on outside of the game itself me i'm a i'm a fan so i had to know so i know when they talk about the when you hear lebron say the nail i was like okay so what the hell is the nail yeah oh oh okay so that's where it's hard to bring the double from the nail because he's between the free throw line and top the key inside the key.

58:02Shannon Sharpe:It's hard to bring the double when you're that high out. Okay, the dunker spot. Okay, you want to pin down. You want to flare. Oh, okay. I feel pretty good. I feel like I'm breaking that thing down like I'm DB. Yeah, yeah. But that's because I want to know why. Look, I don't care. It's nice to see the three and all that other stuff, but I need to know why. How did that guy so wide open? Who blew that? Because we're more than a casual fan. So when we watch the game, we're a different person. We're analyzing it. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Were you supposed to, bro, trap that. Were you supposed to hedge? Were you supposed to go under?

58:42Shannon Sharpe:Were you supposed to go over? Yeah. Yeah. So that's how I'm looking at it. And I get what Candice is saying, but Candice, I really don't know. There are probably a few fans, but the more fans, man, I don't care about that. My team scored. Damn, I don't care how they scored or why they scored. they score and all I know is we got the lead. Yep. You're right. Everybody ain't gonna want to go that in depth. No, but there will be a few. Yeah.

59:14Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, it's time to play Play or Fade presented by PrizePix. Animation, please.

59:35Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all, the staff has run two in a row. One. Oh. I won$75.

59:48Shannon Sharpe:Oh, no, I didn't win the whole Lanchelada. I'm going to win the day, though. I'm going to win tomorrow, though. All right. Carson Wentz, more than 225.5 pass the yards. Joe, you think he's going to play? They play the Chargers, right? What he had last week? Carson Wentz had like 300. But he had like two picks. And who they playing this week? They play the Chargers.

1:00:17Shannon Sharpe:Where's this game? In LA? Or Minnesota?

1:00:25Shannon Sharpe:Where is this home game? Actually look it up. And you think he gonna, well he got some weapons over there, but I don't. Oh yeah. Naylor they got a, a, a, a. You said 275? Yeah, 225. He gonna do that. You think so? Yeah, absolutely. Too many weapons. With Jefferson, Addison, Naylor, Hawkinson. And Hawkinson. Definitely. Justin Jefferson, more than.5 rushing or receiving touchdowns. That means will he have at least one touchdown tomorrow? Absolutely. Yeah. Okay. So we go one touchdown. Kamadi Vidal, less than 55.5 yards rushing. Who the hell he played for? Who the hell is he playing for? Who the hell is he playing for?

1:01:18Shannon Sharpe:oh that rookie got hurt didn't he and what you call him got hurt too

1:01:26Shannon Sharpe:did he play last week Chargers really got in a running game both of the tackles beat up I'm gonna go less Ladd McConkie this is your guy Ocho Ladd McConkie 56.5 receiving yards absolutely Absolutely. Ladarius McConkie might have 90 to 100.

1:01:55Ain't nobody stopping Ladarius McConkie.

1:02:00Shannon Sharpe:Bikers are good against the rush, though. They held down Saquon.

1:02:09Lad McConkie, will he have 57 yards, Joe?

1:02:17Shannon Sharpe:yeah I say he will Ocho Voucher for him I'm gonna say he will hey Ladarius the real deal his name not Ladis Ladarius alright we going more so we going more than 225.5 we going more than.5 touchdowns we going less than 56 yards rushing and we going more than 57 yards passing mmm $25 to win$150. Download the app today. Use code Shannon to get$50 in lineups after you play your first$5 lineup. It's good to be right. Let me get on handshake. All right, guys. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q &A.

1:03:14Shannon Sharpe:Kemper Norwood Jr. Unc Ocho, my question, how far do you see the Lakers going? Play-in or play-offs?

1:03:25Shannon Sharpe:What'd you think of Joe? I think they'll make the playoffs. Ocho? First round exit. Damn. Yeah, I think they'll make that. I ain't gonna say for sure, but I do think they'll make the playoffs. Yeah, I think they'll make the playoffs also. Playoffs. Dr. Frank L. Bellamy welcome back Joe what did you miss the most speeches or Ocho's contagious laugh all of it man all of it Ocho lying hold on Joe what I lie about Joe just cause I ain't on here with y 'all almost every night don't mean I ain't listening alright I'm listening I'm watching and Ocho you be a love misspoke the truth. I mean, lying is really harsh, Joe.

1:04:12Shannon Sharpe:He misspoke the truth. Listen, hey, Joe, anything I talk about, Joe, honestly, I'm going to be truthful with you. Anything I talk about on here, I know it might seem fabricated. It might seem like a lie. But these are life experiences that I've been through. Somebody's life experience is not yours. Promise you. You're right. There are life experiences. This boy here, man. Joe, the Raptors put something on your Hawks. All right, now. Man, they dropped 45 in the third, Joe. Hey, I thought we were doing Q &A about to get up out of here. But listen. Yo, what happened to your Hawks? You know what? And that was a home game for us, too, man.

1:04:59Shannon Sharpe:It was. I don't know. Probably because I wasn't there to gain room for them. If you were going to keep it 100, which you might need to be out there playing for them. It don't look like we played no defense. and give up 138 points at home. 73 in the second half, Joe. Damn. I don't know what happened, man. We got to get together. We got to get together. First game. Hey, when we go to a game, I'm finna heckle them boys. Hold on, hold on, hold on, Ocho. I'm gonna tell you about the Miami Heat in Orlando. We won. What, please? What'd y 'all win? What the score was? Well, y 'all lost by four. It was 120, what was the score?

1:05:35Shannon Sharpe:121 to 125, Orlando. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, how, how, uh, Ben Perro, how you say his last name? Ben Carroll. Yeah, how you doing? Ben Carroll. Oh, Ben Carroll, nice. He had 24. He had 24 and 11. Voss Wagner had 24. Yeah, they good. They not playing. Baines had 23. First game over there with the Magic. Suggs. Damn. Suggs, uh, how many Suggs have? He had 14, but he was six or seven from the field. He was facilitating, doing what he do. Yeah, see? Orlando gonna be tough. Ricky said Wimby putting the league on notice tonight. He's back making Cooper Flagg look like some barbecue chicken. No, look, we saw Wimby his rookie season.

1:06:20Shannon Sharpe:I mean, look, the guy's 12 foot tall. I mean, he can shoot it. I mean, look, he could. I mean, I've seen people have a two on one fast break and pull it out. I ain't messing with Wimby. They know he's going to throw it in a fighter bear. Ocho. Yo, it's six and a half minutes left. This man got 38 and 13. Yeah, I'm looking at him. He ain't playing. Oh, he for real. And he got 37. Because we're not used to seeing somebody that. Look, KD, when you see a guy KD height. So just imagine somebody five, six inches taller than KD. They say he's good. That can handle the ball, shoot the three, put the ball on the floor, get to the rim, and you ain't getting nothing to hear.

1:07:06Shannon Sharpe:I wouldn't be surprised if he set the NBA record for blocked shots. I think either Mark Eaton or Manute Bowe has the record for the most. I think it's got five blocks a game. Was it Mark Eaton or Manute Bowe? Man, they say the man done grew two inches. That's what I'm saying. So if Kevin Durant's 6 '11", 7 foot, he's 7 '5", 7 '6". Oh, my God. Normally, seven guys that tall, Joe. Look at Manubo, George Murerson, Don Brantley. They not having the ball like that. Nah. Yeah. Hey, he's 7 '7", 6', 7", whatever it is. Yeah, he's 7 '5", 7 '6". Hey, he twitchy with it, though. Yeah. Yes. Man, hey, San Antonio going to be scary because he got some dogs around him.

1:07:55Shannon Sharpe:Them young boys, he got this playing around him. They can go. Mark Eaton or Manubo. I think somebody had like five blocks a season. Five blocks a game. San Antonio, hey, look. Yeah, I don't keep talking. We talking about OKC. But, boy, look. San Antonio ain't playing. They putting it on. Man, they up. Mark Eaton. Ojo. 110.82? Yeah, Mark Eaton averaged four and a half blocks a game. I can see Wimby doing it. I can see Wimby, the guy that's most likely to get a quadruple double is Wimby, and he's going to do it with block shots. Like if Kim Olajuwon did his with block shots, normally have rebounds, assists, steals.

1:08:38Shannon Sharpe:I mean, he's going to do it with block shots. Hey, hey, hey. He look like he ain't come to play no games with these boys today. He had 40 and 15. Okay, Ocho. Yeah. Oh, he going to be. Oh, he done. Yeah. This man. He's like, Wimby tonight. Lord, have mercy. Yes. Lord, have mercy. T.S. Carwashing detail. Is the Clippers a top five team in the West? Who can win it all? Not the Clippers. Look, they lost tonight. Look, T. Lou is too good of a coach. They'll figure this out. Kawhi, ooh, Kawhi didn't play well tonight. 3-9, 1-5 from the three. He had 10 points, minus 25. Nobody really played well. Bradley Beal had five.

1:09:21Shannon Sharpe:James Harden had 15. James had 15 and 11. two rebounds. Zubats had 19 and 7. Derrick Jones Jr. had 12. John Collins had 14. Brooke Lopez had 15. I wonder why Kawhi only took nine shots though. Dang, they like, I expect him, I expect Kawhi to be at least 18 attempts, 20 attempts. I expect him to be aggressive. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But if you go back and look at it, nobody really took John Collins and Brooke Lopez had as many shots as James Harden. Zubat had the most. He was 9 of 13. But this is... Hold on. Utah scored... Oh, yeah, this game was over. Utah scored 43 in the first, 35 in the second.

1:10:14Shannon Sharpe:So they had 78. And they were up 78 to 47. So now you see why he only... They did them altitude and got to them Clippers. and playing. Hey, look, y 'all know I played in Utah for two years. I know what it's like. It's almost like playing in Denver. Yes, it is. It is. Man, listen. Nicky Grant says, I'm single, two steps past 40, well-employed, no kids, I'm enjoying minding my biz and enjoying my mortgage. According to Chad, I'm screwed. According to... Well, shoot. man 40 I mean it ain't too late it ain't too late you ain't screwed Nicky alright yeah you ain't screwed Nicky he out there what kind of car we got Nicky yeah he out there I mean you got a Mercedes cause you know Mercedes you can put a lot of miles on a Mercedes now

1:11:19nah look Look, there's somebody out there for everybody. Yeah, that's what they say. Yeah. And you know, women love to say don't settle.

1:11:32Shannon Sharpe:But see, it's different for, see, Ocho, a guy looking to make money so he can provide. Women, a lot of women are looking to make money so they can become independent. See, they done got them fooled. You don't need no man. And the first time, hey, can you do this now? You don't need no man. Call somebody else to move you. or change your tire or change your oil or take you to get something. It all depends. Look, is that what you want? If you want somebody, settle. I don't think settle is the right word. I think the thing is that everybody is trying to find the perfect everything. He makes 500 to 10 million dollars.

1:12:17Shannon Sharpe:He's highly educated. He likes to travel. He doesn't have any kids, even if they do.

1:12:26That's a movie you're talking about right there. That's a fairy tale ending.

1:12:36Shannon Sharpe:Everybody, everybody, everybody wants that. Did you hear about the fairy tale ending? In that VN. Happily ever after. Yeah, in the movies. Yes. In the movies. In the movies. Hey, Nicky, I got somebody for you, Nicky. Nicky, you good. You good. I got somebody for you, though. Wizard P, is it time to stop sugarcoating these quarterbacks that have passed their prime? It's time for him to retire, and he's been washed for three to four years. Who? Who? Yeah, who he talking about? You got to give him some names, Wizard P. Because all the old quarterbacks in the NFL, they playing real well right now.

1:13:17He's good. Rogers is playing tremendous. Joe Flacco had an outstanding game the other night. Did you not see? He's going to have another outstanding win again against these goddamn Jets on Sunday. Was he a – who was AFC offensive player of the week this week?

1:13:31Shannon Sharpe:Was it Flacco? I think it might have been Uno.

1:13:38Shannon Sharpe:How it's going to be Uno if Joe Flacco was throwing the ball? That boy had – how many catches he had, Ocho? It was Chase. 16. Oh, yeah. Jamar C-back. I told you. We know Michael won a defensive player of the year for the NFC. We had three sacks. When playing, getting around that edge. He closed the game out.

1:14:08Okay.

1:14:13Shannon Sharpe:Let Ocho tell it. He could have won the U.S. Open and ran 9-6 in the 100. I mean whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa now listen for those that do follow me Joe you've seen my tennis skills I haven't I haven't I've seen my tennis skills and listen it's well documented especially if anybody in the chat in Miami they know in the 100 in high school as a freshman I ran 9-8 I ran 9-8 so I ain't too far off a 9-6 and I wasn't even a track runner I was a soccer player and that's the 90 yard dash no no no for real yeah this is before i got hurt first of all if you ran nine eight in the hundred meters ain't no way in hell you're running four six who no i ran four six i fell i like i fell like i fell on my chest and got up and still ran four six come on okay come on joe come on he meant he meant he played pickleball joe yeah good he oh they say ocho got it you know pickleball he good of that.

1:15:15Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, I'm going to be back on that pickleball court. Give me a couple more points. Don't do that. Joe, don't do that. Don't do that. Hey, listen, hold on. I'm telling you, Ocho, I'm trying to team up with you. Oh, you ain't got to come at me like that. You got me? I'm going to team up with you. Hey, come to the winning side, Joe. Come to the winning side. I like that. I like that. I'm ready. Man, we get at some people with some doubles or something. Yeah, I like it. 97, sup, fellas. Start, Trey Cut, Shaq, Tim Duncan, Elijah Wan.

1:15:49I've said it.

1:15:50Shannon Sharpe:I'm going to stick by it. Tim Duncan is underappreciated. Yeah, he is. Look, because he ain't had no flashy game. He couldn't fly through the air. He ain't shoot no threes. He didn't have no funny sound bites. All he did was bless everybody you know what that played in his era. Mr. Fundamentals. I played against him in two playoff series. That boy wasn't nothing nice. Hey. Yeah. And what? Three finals MVPs. He won five. Three finals MVPs. A two-time MVP. He probably should have won a Defensive Player of the Year award, but he didn't because he was like a 15-time or 13, 14, 15-time all defensive.

1:16:33Shannon Sharpe:He's like 13, 14-time all NBA. Yeah. And he's putting up these numbers with Shaq. Now, him and Shaq going head-to-head, that was a matchup it was they did they had some great ones yeah also played in the era with Olajuwon yeah Olajuwon got the best of them in their finals that was a young Shaq yeah Olajuwon got the best of a lot of people a whole lot of people can do anything with Dre he was so quick I had a quick little stint with Houston this was it had to be 2018 in, what, 18, 19. This is when James Harden was averaging like what boy? 35? Yeah, 35, something like that. But we used to play three on three every day, Uncle Ocho.

1:17:21Shannon Sharpe:And me and Dream used to be on the same team every day, bro. He used to play three on three with us every day. Man, listen, some of the coolest stuff I've ever been a part of, bro. I used to look forward to that. Dream got day. Dream still got some nice game for you down there. You see he over there teaching Wimby and all them boys how to... Oh, yeah. That dream shake And the thing was He played both ends No he really really Played both ends Yeah he was a hell of a shot blocker So we're going to Prime Shaq Prime Duncan Prime Elijah won I can't cut none of them Somebody just got to Somebody got to come off the bench You'd be a fool to cut any of them hey that's unrealistic man you can't cut neither it's tough bro cause man listen I would probably prime Shaq ain't nothing like prime Shaq nothing you can do with him nothing at all nothing I would go prime Shaq

1:18:39Shannon Sharpe:you're going to have to cut Duncan ain't you tell the truth yeah you keep it 100 if you keep it 100 it's okay damn oh so I got it hold on I'm I you know what I got a trade no somebody go into the bench somebody got to go into the bench I ain't gonna get rid of them because they're going to come back and haunt me. Oh, boy. If you trade Olajuwon, he's going to come back and give you 40, 15 with 10 blocks. Duncan going to give you 20, 20, and 8. Shaq going to give you 40, 15 and going to pull the backboard down on your heat. Pulling the screws out of that thing. You hear me? Chad, what should we do, Chad?

1:19:25I'm going to start Shaq, and Duncan Olajuwon got to come off the bench. Hey,

1:19:33Shannon Sharpe:man. I thought that G said, I so miss you, brother. I know this is NBA episode, but them cowboys finna get whipped Sunday, Bronco country. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. What we got on it, baby? Make a lot of yourself, Joe. Oh, and we go. Make a lot of yourself, Joe. Hey, and I know we playing in Denver, but hold on. Let's break something down real quick. because I don't want you and Ocho to have amnesia on here because you're still down at dinner. Me and you, but we gonna handle that. Number one dinner? Come on now, come on, let's play this. Ass, ass, ass. You know what, Joe? Joe be talking about Ocho, you owe me like seven games and the series we won four, three.

1:20:16Shannon Sharpe:Hey Ocho, but you is in the hole though. We can laugh about it, but I still ain't got to pay, man. Interest, interest, interest, it adds up. Hold on, you see what Ocho are talking about me? I'm talking about you, because me and you, we bet. All you$100. But I'm saying it's interesting that. Ocho, you bet on me. The season has started back. Man, that was the final. The season has started back. Hey, Ash and Jordan, we got to pull that up and let Ark know why he in the hole. It's OK, man. It's OK. Hey. I ain't holding it against you. I'm just reminding y 'all, because if I don't remind y 'all, then you let somebody hold on for something too long, they going to really think it's there.

1:20:53Shannon Sharpe:Hold on. for sure. At$100? Yeah, man, they got to add a little interest to it. The season started back. Like, we done started back. Man, we done had two seasons.

1:21:06Shannon Sharpe:I ain't got my buddy yet. J. Del from Akron. Fellas, great show as usual. Welcome back, ISO. We got you back at 26. Appreciate that, man. Appreciate that. Tim's Biz, Uncle Ocho, ISO, great to have you back today. Your boy celebrates his 37th birthday. The wife took me to have a spa day. I had my shave by La Portia. That thing's smooth. Appreciate that. Your boy was hell when he was well. If you know what I mean, I know exactly what you mean. Hello. Happy birthday, man. Glad you and the wife got to spend some time together. Nothing like a spa day. You know, go out and get something to eat. And then come home and shake the covers for dogs.

1:21:43Shannon Sharpe:Hello. That's a birthday. That's a birthday right there, Ocho. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Man, you know the old poor hustler.

1:21:54Shannon Sharpe:didn't do nothing Ocho

1:22:00hey

1:22:00Shannon Sharpe:somebody need to come through with a fadeaway jumper I'm 58 though hey I need somebody to pull up a fadeaway Joe 57 was big TD to one Ocho I got that 85 jersey on tonight at work they've been giving me hell all night because I'm a Cowboys fan but so would be 84 jersey on the way. Too much love, fella. Appreciate that, man. How you a cowboy fan that got an 85 jersey on? That's janky, man. What you trying to do to us? Hey, not really. Honestly, you know what? I'm one of the few jerseys. In regards to what team you support, I'm universal. Wearing my jersey is universal for any fan base because everybody loved me.

1:22:43Every fan base loved me. No.

1:22:47Shannon Sharpe:Saucy said, A.R. and Rui been consistently inconsistent for the last three seasons now. Nah, nah, A.R. been that guy. He has. Rui, when you least expect it, Rui will come up and have, like, when I expect it, I never get what I'm really expecting to get from Rui. Now, Rui will come up and have a game, but nah, A.R. has gotten better and better and better and better. I can't agree with you that one on Saucy. A.R. been money. Just one game. Just one game. El Pray, can you tell the story about when your grandfather stood up against this brother that caused your uncle not to show up for my grandfather's funeral.

1:23:24Shannon Sharpe:My uncle was thumping me on the head. My grandfather would always tell us he didn't like nobody being thumping on the head. You make him thick-headed and he won't be able to learn. You know how the old people got saying. He thumped me. We were sitting on the porch and my grandfather's bedroom was right there. I thumped him. No, he thumped me. I said, ow, stop thumping me. And my grandfather room and he heard it. So I could hear my grandfather putting his coveralls on. That's what they call overalls, coveralls. And he came, he said, if you thump that boy one more time on his head, I'm going to kill you.

1:24:04Shannon Sharpe:My uncle got in his car and never saw him again. Even when my grandfather died, he came to the church, but he didn't come inside. Wow.

1:24:17Shannon Sharpe:my grandfather where if he told you something Ocho set your clock by if he told you something he meant that he meant exactly that he meant exactly that he didn't play all that kiki kid and all that joking

1:24:37Shannon Sharpe:he didn't he didn't play that and that's I guess that's kind of how I am. I'm kind of like a little bit more, but too much of that plan. He was a firm believer that grown men shouldn't play. He was a firm believer that all that joking and saying stuff like that. I told you, man, I made a joke. My grandfather had his teeth on the dash. We're going fishing. Got some gas. man said Mr. Barney you better catch your teeth before they run away they like to pull the transmission like you're gonna snap that again that car parks I was like whoa hey

1:25:29Shannon Sharpe:I don't joke I don't play I'm old enough to be your daddy I'm sorry Mr. Barney he didn't learn his lesson come back About a month later, we going fishing. Yeah. Mr. Barty, don't catch them all. You know GD well, I can't catch all them damn fish.

1:25:55Shannon Sharpe:Man. Barty Porter ain't play like that. You know what? I wish somebody, you know what? Because y 'all be thinking I'd be lying. But I want y 'all to catch my brother. Y 'all ask my brother. Say, man, I heard your brother on Nightcap. say his uh uh your uncle thunk them on his head your granddaddy's brother thunk them on his head what happened ask him about when the man said hey grab your teeth before they run away ask him about hey don't catch all them fish ask him he hey he kept them teeth in that in that glass in that glass john oh on the on the yeah yeah well that polygraph with a little water now yeah oh you know about that?

1:26:36Shannon Sharpe:Well, Joe, you had grandparents that had, because if you know about that water, them teeth in them glass, then you go in there and make it, because you know water make things look big, like, damn, Papa, I got some big old teeth.

1:26:52Shannon Sharpe:Hey, I already know what you're talking about. Boy, it was the days, man, hey, they played bad, but hey,

1:27:04Shannon Sharpe:that concludes this episode of nightcap we want to thank each and every one of you for joining us uh welcome back joe guys we really really appreciate that support man we're gonna have some great i look like we're gonna have some great games this year because the season getting off to a great start phoenix has come back take a 107 104 league with three minutes to go in the ball game but uh look like we'll have a great season uh joe man it's gonna be great we We got our rhythm. We got our cadence. Now we got a year in our belt with Joe Man. This thing about to be lit, lit. Hey, let's get it. Ocho, what's that you doing?

1:27:40That's the Kobe.

1:27:44Shannon Sharpe:So hold on. So are you putting your back or are you putting your butt on him? Because Jordan put his back on him. And he trying to hand check me. I'm leaning back on him. Yeah. Oh, OK. Hey, and then get your hand off me, boy.

1:28:03Hey, Joe, I've been working on my game, Joe. Okay, all right. You getting ready for the next big three? Yeah, I'm getting ready. I'm practicing.

1:28:10Shannon Sharpe:Hey, Joe, you didn't see him in the All-Star game? Boy, that boy was good. Triple single. I seen the boy, and I seen him in the flag. A quadruple single. I seen him in the flag football joint. You saw that too, huh? Yeah. See, my thing, Ocho, it's when you sit on here with us, and you be like, oh man, y 'all gonna watch me tomorrow. I'm gonna have 30 points. I'm gonna have 300 yards tomorrow with 15. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you get out there. You get out there talking about... Hey, Joe, I get out there and do what I'm supposed to do. If the ball don't come, ain't nothing I can do, Joe.

1:28:41Ain't nothing I can do. You start copping these pleas and we ain't trying to hear it.

1:28:45Shannon Sharpe:That's all I'm saying. What you want me to do? You want me to curse the quarterback out? If that's what you got to do to get the ball, then that's what you need to do. Nah, nah, Joe. Yeah, if that's what you got to do, that's what you need to do. Hey, Joe, them people ain't going to invite me back no more for the show, Joe. They might not invite you back after that performance you put up. Oh, no, I look good, man. I just want you to go one time and bring Nightcap some hardware back. That's it. We send you off and you come back empty-handed. Hey, um, um, um, right hand, baby. I promise you I'm going to bring you something back.

1:29:14Shannon Sharpe:I got something for y 'all. Joe was going to bring us MVP back. Come on, man. What is you talking about? Come on, now. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. We want some awards, Joe, so we got you a award coming. What? Yeah, we want two of these. Boy, that one time. For nightcap. Okay. Okay, look, Unc, don't threaten me with no good time now. Nah, nah, anytime. Hey, hey, hold on, hold on, hold on. Hey, hey, hey, Unc? Huh? I got some floating shells, right? I'm putting some floating shells right behind me? Yeah. I'm gonna put some pictures. Man, do you see how crooked them plaques are? Whoever hugged them had vertigo.

1:30:01No, it's not crooked, it's the camera. Nah, nah. Not the wall.

1:30:07Shannon Sharpe:Whoever put them up, they have vertigo or they cocked like Ricky Smiles, they cocked like a pistol. Because he did that. That's why it looked like that. Yeah, that look in rigged. Man ain't getting on here. Man, hey, come on, Ocho, man. Now listen, listen, listen, listen. Stay with me, man. Stay with me real quick. It looked like that because of the camera. What camera? My camera. You saying your camera. You don't look crooked? Huh? You don't look crooked? I know. It's the depth perception. It's off. Boy, hey. Boy. I know you was something else. I know that boy was something else in school because, boy, you got to come back for everything.

1:30:45Shannon Sharpe:You hear me? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just telling you, the camera's off because the wall is flat, so it ain't no way it could be crooked. Joe, don't tell nobody, but he stayed in the same classroom the whole day. Hey, I had a 4.0, though. Yeah. Hey, you ain't do no but finger paint and take that.

1:31:09Shannon Sharpe:That man, that man, he got stars for grades.

1:31:17Shannon Sharpe:I'm your favorite on Shadow Shop. That is my partner and co-host Liberty City's own. Bingo's Ring of Fame honoree, the former Pro Bowler All-Pro. He's Chad Ochocinco Johnson. And the Big Three is back. The third member of our Wednesday night crew, University of Arkansas alum, Little Rock Arkansas native. Here he is, ladies and gentlemen, Ice Oak Joe. Thank you, man. Appreciate you, Joe. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. and do us a favor, go subscribe to the Nightcap Podcast feed wherever you get your podcasts from. Ocho and I, Joe, would like to thank you for your support and your continued support because you guys make it worthwhile.

1:31:55Shannon Sharpe:Even when it's sometimes like, damn, we're back at it again, but we know that we got the love and support of so many subscribers, fans everywhere. Thank you guys for your eyes, ears, and your word of mouth because without you, none of this is possible and you make it all worthwhile. So again, thank you for your support and your continued support. Make sure you check out Shea by Laporte. If you can't find it in a city or state near you, order it online. We'll ship it directly to your door. It's the best tasting premium VSOP cognac on the market. Try it. Compare it to other premium VSOPs and let me know what you think.

1:32:30Shannon Sharpe:We love competition. We built for competition. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Go follow my media company page on all of its platforms, from Shea Shea Media and my clothing company, 84, with 84 being spelled out. That link is pinned in the chat. We want to thank our very, very special guest, Quinshawn Judkins, for joining us tonight. The rookie sensational running back from the Cleveland Browns who had three Russian touchdowns last week. That was the first time a running back from Cleveland had done that since September 18th of 2022. So congratulations. Hopefully he stays healthy and continues to progress, and we know he's headed for an outstanding season.

1:33:07Shannon Sharpe:So thank you, Q, for joining us tonight. Joe, thank you. Keep going with that recovery. Come on now. We look forward to seeing you next week. Ocho, I'll see you tomorrow night after Minnesota and the Chargers game. Chat, thank you so much for your support. We're out.

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Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to Tua making another bizzare statement to the media about his size, Trey WIngo is reporting that the Cowboys are looking to trade for Maxx Crosby, and the vibe around Lebron is a little strange and much more!

0:00 - Sheduer Not getting 1st team reps
5:00 - Tua Dolphins talk
14:19 - Maxx Crosby Trade to Cowboys?
19:01 - VJ Edgecombe Debut
26:22 - LeBron not focused?
34:42 - NBA putting Larry O’brien trophy logo at center court
44:18 - Candace Parker wants high level statistics on broadcast for basketball
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