Nightcap Hour 2: Unc & Ocho react to Bill Belichick being PETTY & not letting Patriot Scouts at practice

7 Sep 2025 · 56 min · 24 chapters

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In short

Sports talk and reactions to major football headlines, especially NIL money reshaping college recruiting, Oregon’s 69-3 rout of Oklahoma State after Gundy’s comments, and Bill Belichick blocking Patriot scouts from UNC practice. They also discuss a viral baseball foul-ball/home-run retrieval dispute and preview Travis Hunter’s two-way usage with the Jaguars.

Guests (hosts)

“Unc” and “Ocho” (sports commentators). No other guests are interviewed in this episode; the transcript includes unrelated ad reads and promo segments.

Key claims

  • NIL money reduces the SEC’s geographic recruiting advantage; boosters and deep pockets let Big Ten schools compete.
  • Coaches should be “self-aware” when trash talking; Gundy’s 69-3 loss to Oregon shows Oklahoma State lacked the roster to back it up.
  • Belichick’s “petty” move is justified: if he’s not welcome at New England, Patriots scouts shouldn’t access UNC practice.

Notable examples

  • Saban/Big Ten vs SEC NIL discussion; Michigan/Ohio State/LSU/Texas A&M cited.
  • Oregon’s 69-3 win; Lanning’s “pours gasoline on the fire” quote.
  • Viral Phillies fan incident: a man retrieves a home-run ball first and gives it to his son; the hosts argue entitlement doesn’t matter if someone else gets there first.

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NIL and the Changing Landscape of College Football

0:00 to 0:34

Explore how NIL deals are shifting the landscape of college football, especially between SEC and Big Ten.

“When you're moving like I do, you don't always get a lot of lead time.”

NIL and the Changing Landscape of College Football

0:40 to 1:09

Explore how NIL deals are shifting the landscape of college football, especially between SEC and Big Ten.

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NIL and the Changing Landscape of College Football

1:53 to 2:57

Explore how NIL deals are shifting the landscape of college football, especially between SEC and Big Ten.

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Financial Power and College Sports

2:57 to 6:00

Discuss how financial backing from boosters is reshaping college athletics and competitiveness.

“Ocho, Nick Saban claims NIL financial support has given the Big Ten Conference a bit of an edge over the SEC.”

The Luxury of Wagyu Beef

6:00 to 9:16

Learn about the unique qualities and history of Wagyu beef, and the differences in meat quality.

“Coach Saban realized he didn't, as great a coach as he is, he doesn't, the advantage that he once possessed, he doesn't have it anymore.”

A Lighthearted Take on Soups and Food Preferences

9:16 to 10:48

Listen to a humorous discussion about different types of soups and personal food preferences.

“And I said, hey, man, see what type of soup they got.”

Oregon's Dominance Over Oklahoma State

15:23 to 17:10

Discussion on Oregon's impressive win and Gundy's remarks.

“Ocho, Oregon, dominates Cowboys after Gundy pours gasoline on a fire.”

Recruiting and NIL Impact on Alabama

17:11 to 23:04

Exploration of the impact of NIL on Alabama's recruiting.

“All those receivers that they have in Alabama that waited their turn, you could say the same thing about those Ohio State wide receivers because all those guys waited their turn.”

Coaching and Financial Realities in College Football

23:05 to 26:58

Discussion on coaching challenges and financial dynamics in college football.

“ammunition or the head coach post-game material when you know damn good and well you're not going to go in and have a chance to win.”

Introduction to Women's Sports Podcast

29:33 to 30:29

Hosts Ari Chambers and Sam J introduce their podcast about women's sports.

“And we're the hosts of Everyone Watches Women's Sports, a new podcast from Together and I Heart Women's Sports.”
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Belichick's Decision on Scouts

30:34 to 31:29

Discussion on Bill Belichick's refusal to allow Patriots scouts at practice.

“Bill Belichick confirmed today, Ocho, following his first win at North Carolina, that scouts from New England Patriots do not have access to the program.”

Coaches and Their Past Teams

31:31 to 32:59

Exploration of whether fired coaches can return to their former teams.

“I don't think that if I get fired from my job and I go get another job, they're going to allow me to come back in the building at the job that I got fired from.”

The Nature of Coaching Tenure

33:00 to 34:38

Discussion on the expectations and realities of coaching in the NFL.

“He's talking about he doesn't feel welcome.”

Belichick's Relationship with Kraft

34:39 to 37:08

Analysis of Belichick's relationship with team owner Robert Kraft post-firing.

“I'm just confused why he's surprised that – but guess what?”

Ego and Accomplishment in Coaching

37:09 to 39:46

Discussion on the impact of ego and accomplishment among successful coaches.

“He's not looking at the other years in which he could have fired you for Spygate.”

The Impact of Quarterback Changes

39:47 to 42:00

Final thoughts on how losing a key quarterback affects coaching dynamics.

“Like I said, I hadn't been on a whole lot of jobs, but, I mean, when I got let go at Fox, you know, I'm pretty sure my ID badge didn't work anymore.”

Analyzing Belichick's Legacy and Recent Changes

42:00 to 45:50

Unc and Ocho discuss the expectations surrounding NFL players and the implications of Bill Belichick's decisions.

“You can't take that away from him, Ocho.”

Travis Hunter's Dual Role in the NFL

45:50 to 47:57

The hosts talk about Travis Hunter's potential as both a wide receiver and cornerback for the Jaguars this season.

“The Jags are planning on for Travis Hunter to be an every down wide receiver and a situational corner tomorrow over the regular season open against the Carolina Panthers.”

Home Run Ball Controversy

47:57 to 51:28

Unc and Ocho react to a viral video involving a dispute over a home run ball at a baseball game.

“So he wants to play 65, 70 plays on offense, 65, 70 plays on defense.”

Entitlement and Sports Fandom

51:28 to 55:55

The conversation shifts to issues of entitlement in sports, particularly regarding fans and game interactions.

“Hey, and everybody out there in their little kayaking and trying to get the ball.”

Meeting Josh Bell

56:00 to 56:30

Discussion about meeting Josh Bell and sharing a personal story.

“They watched the show and they said they love it.”

Q&A Segment Introduction

56:30 to 58:00

Introducing the Q&A segment with audience questions about football.

“Oh, you're talking about an Incredibles with Samuel L.”

Analyzing Future Quarterbacks

58:00 to 1:02:39

Discussion on quarterback performances and their potential future.

“It wasn't like he was playing Delaware and they were playing Alabama or Georgia.”

Birthday Wishes

1:02:39 to 1:03:15

Wishing a listener a happy birthday and discussing celebrations.

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2:57Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, Nick Saban claims NIL financial support has given the Big Ten Conference a bit of an edge over the SEC. Saban says, I think the SEC was the SEC because of the culture in the South. There wasn't professional football in the South for a long time and everybody related to college colleges. Well, now it doesn't matter. I mean, kids grew up wanting to go to LSU, Alabama, Georgia, got money now. They don't mind going to Ohio State. They don't mind going other places. So the geographic advantage that the SEC conference may be changing a little bit now with a different culture, with NIL and money involved in decision making, I think that's created a bit of an edge for the Big Ten.

3:38yeah i mean i've said all the time on here nil has even the plan for the the plan the plain field for other schools especially schools that have boosters school boosters that have a lot of money when you have a lot of money it gives you a better chance to beat those schools that have

3:57Shannon Sharpe:been dominating like the alabama especially if you got a if you got a michigan where you got a Larry Ellison, who's the second richest man in the world. So now you got, so let's just say for the sake of argument, Ocho, the team that we're talking about now, Stanford got a bunch of boosters. Harvard got a bunch of boosters, but they ain't trying to, they, they tried to, Hey, we got an idea for AI. We got to, we, we developing a vaccine or something to cure or treat cancer or treat this. That's what they're going to invest their money in. But you got a Michigan, you got an Ohio state, you got an LSU or Texas A &M or university of Texas.

4:31Shannon Sharpe:because they're all, hey, you got to stick your hand way down the A. They got deep pockets down in Texas. A &M in the U of UT, they got deep, you see Texas Tech. So them oil bearers down there, they got real deep pockets. So now you got these teams that want to compete. They were always close, Ocho. You said, hey, with a couple of dollars, you can push us over the top. How much? Right over the top. You know what's funny when you think about it too long? The Saudis. Yeah. The Saudis, you see how they dipped their hand in boxing? You see what boxing is done? Certain fights that probably never would have gotten created before are now being created.

5:12Could you imagine if the Saudis dipped their hand in college football?

5:15Shannon Sharpe:Well, they got to have a vested interest in it. Invested in certain schools? Man, come on now. But he's right. I mean, the South, I mean, because at the end of the day, if you good you're going to go to the NFL anyway so I might as well get my $4-5 million before I go instead of me waiting three years to get mom, grandma, family out of this situation, I can do this as a 17-18 year old right, and it don't matter where you go, if you can play if you can play, they're going to find you you can play your uncle, you can be playing under a rock, if you can play the game of football, they will find you And that's what happened.

6:00Shannon Sharpe:Coach Saban realized he didn't, as great a coach as he is, he doesn't, the advantage that he once possessed, he doesn't have it anymore. Coach K. No. Roy Williams. They realized the advantages that they once had.

6:19Okay.

6:21Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, not there. And Michael Jordan's shoes ain't going to cut it. No, you need more than that the peril. Oh, Joe guys getting four million guys getting four million dollars three million dollars Can you imagine as a 17 18 year old Joe? Man if I got a thousand dollars It's a thousand at 17. Give me You know how much money seven at 70 you know how much money? $500 is back then when you ain't had nothing. Yeah, I absolutely know So can you, can you also, so imagine Ocho, they give you 20, 50 ,000 back then. Oh Lord have mercy. Man, stop playing. Granted, don't buy no more bologna, don't buy no more hot dogs, don't buy no more lunch meat.

7:09Shannon Sharpe:Hey, number, number, and my homeboy say number, quarter house steaks. Man, I took my homeboy out to eat one time. He said, let me get that quarter house steak. the server looked at him like excuse me he said yeah let me get let me get that quarter house steak cook it uh well i'm like quarter house i said you mean quarter house yeah yeah that one

7:37Shannon Sharpe:hey he's saying it wrong wrong i'm looking at like quarter house uh-huh speaking of since you're on the topic of meat I tried what'd you try that wagyu that ain't like butter ain't it like butter Ocho now I see the difference now I see the difference and I had the waiter explain to me now I'm looking at the menu and I'm looking at the price point of the steak and the difference in the price point of the steak and the wagon and it gave me a better understanding. Then he explained how the cows are massaged and they take care of a certain type of diet. Then I asked, well, does it really make that much of a difference based on the way the cows are raised?

8:25It absolutely does. They broke it down to me. Me and the Mississippi went to Prime 112. I don't really frequent restaurants like that, but I wanted the Mississippi to go. Went there and enjoyed ourselves. They gave me a history lesson. They gave their history lesson on the wagon on why it cost what it did. A lot of these farmers

8:49Shannon Sharpe:they're like five generations. They're four or five generations. They've been doing this for an extremely long period of time. It's kind of like the farmers used to be but a lot of the farmers have sold their land off because it used to be four or five six generation farmers. It's getting really tough for farmers now especially with the

9:09Shannon Sharpe:But, Ocho, you can definitely taste the difference in that meat. It's like butter. Absolutely. It's like butter. Man, y 'all leave my homeboy alone. He's talking about quarter house steak. He did. So, Ocho, we at Whole Foods. And I said, hey, man, see what type of soup they got. He said, man, they got a chicken noodle. They got a tomato. They got Mind Strong. And they got broccoli and cheese. I'm like, man. I said, what you say they got? Chicken noodle. They got a, he wouldn't even say, he didn't even try to pronounce gazpacho. He's like, they got broccoli and cheese. And they got Mind Strong.

10:03Shannon Sharpe:i say mine strong i said you mean minestrone yeah yeah that was

10:13Shannon Sharpe:he said yeah yeah that's what they got i said man come on over here man i was man i was on medicine come on but get about but i was on the floor joe he's a mess he said man he said man these people looking at you i said they should be looking at they should be looking at you. I ain't never heard of that. I don't know much about soups. If it's not clam pop or lobster bisque, that's pretty... Chicken noodle soup. That's as far as I go. That's as much as I know. I'm not a real soup guy. Right. You know, I noticed tomato and gazpacho and minestrone and all that. I'm not a soup guy, Ocho. I don't really mess with chili because I already know something bad going to happen.

11:04No, no, no, no. You got to try Skyline Chili. No, I don't got to try nothing. In Cincinnati? Oh, you'll be all right. I ain't got to try. No, I won't. Oh, no. Oh, your stomach can't hold that down, huh? Chili?

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15:23Okay.

15:24Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, Oregon, dominates Cowboys after Gundy pours gasoline on a fire. On Monday, while speaking on his radio show, Gundy said Oregon is paying a lot of money for their team, citing$40 million as the amount he believed the Ducks spent on their roster last year. The week ended, Oregon handing Oklahoma State a 69-3 loss, the worst in the Gundy era and the worst program has seen since 1907. Lanning said postgame, it never requires extra motivation for an opportunity to go out there and kick ass, but it never hurts when somebody pours gasoline on the fire. Hey, man, listen, and also, you know, it never hurts when you have a$40 million roster either.

16:04Which is why you're able to score 60 points.

16:08Shannon Sharpe:What's the story? No, you didn't put it on? Oh, oh. Oh, I thought, okay, my bad. We'll go back to it. We'll go back to it. As a matter of fact, let's go back to it right now, Ocho. I skipped over the story. AJ McCarron revealed this week that you look at these other teams that have 40, 50 million in NIL. Alabama, I know this for a fact, talking to multiple people in the program, Alabama has less than 20 million in their NIL. You know, that helps Alabama from a recruiting standpoint. In fact, Alabama has been Alabama. But, and people go out there because they know they're going to be able to compete for a national championship year in and year out, and you're going to go into the NFL most likely if you're supposed to do.

16:48Shannon Sharpe:If you start losing and all those guys go away and now you can't pay guys what other schools are dishing out now it hurts you even more yeah yeah yeah so you're not gonna have all those wide receivers lining up to come to alabama you're not gonna have all those running backs that you know the mark ingram you have uh the trent richardson and you have the derrick henry's and you have the uh alvin camara's and you have the damian harris's and you have this one and that one and the tj yeldon's and all the nope you're not you're not gonna have all those dbs lining up you're not and and the funny thing about it is not only you have all those players you have them willing to wait their turn yes yes yes well not anymore wait how much you got for me two million where i'm playing at well i ain't never been over there but no money here and i gotta wait three years just for my turn to get on the field and I can get two million to come in and play right now, yeah, I'm going to go ahead and take me and my kids.

17:52Because think about it.

17:53Shannon Sharpe:All those receivers that they have in Alabama that waited their turn, you could say the same thing about those Ohio State wide receivers because all those guys waited their turn. Turn, yeah. So the likelihood of somebody like, man, please, hey, you mean to tell me somebody's going to give me two million and I can go start or I can be a third wide receiver or a fourth wide receiver here? Nah, bro. Mm-hmm.

18:19Shannon Sharpe:hey Jamison Williams he was at Ohio State couldn't crack it so he's like hey let me go on to Alabama let me go on down here to Alabama what he was your top 10 pick top of you are top your top pick I don't know if he's top 10 but I think he was but I think he's a high draft pick same thing with Joe Yeah. You know, Jameson just got paid a few minutes ago. Yep. Three for 83. 89, 83, something like that. Oh my goodness. Yep. Right, right. Hey, listen. And boy, did you see Cam? It worked. Cam who? Cam Hayward. It worked. Ocho, they gave him an opportunity. He can, what, incentives. They gave him an extra 3 million, right?

19:04Yeah.

19:08Shannon Sharpe:three million he's making 14 and a half so that goes to 17 and a half them other guys 24 28 30 34 40 but he gotta be realistic he's 36 36 you know it doesn't matter who you are

19:30Shannon Sharpe:I'm happy for him that's three million more and it's probably, you know, probably roster bonus. For every week that he's on the active roster, he gets 250, a quarter of a million. Something like that. Damn. If he has, you know, he has five sacks, he gets another half a million. Yeah. Right. Look, like I said, I mean, I think the thing is that he's 36 years of age. He's been great. He's been a captain. He's been great in the community. he's been a damn good football player and he doesn't call the Steelers you know Mike Tomlin has never had to worry about getting a call about Cam Hayward the Steelers have never had to worry about getting a call about Cam Hayward so hey I'm happy it's probably not what he wanted he probably wanted you know 25 to 30 million dollars but like you said Ocho at his age you're asking an awful lot at that age I mean you said 25, 30 men a year?

20:39Shannon Sharpe:yes I'm saying at that age I'm saying at that age no maybe if he had rolled the dice said you know what I'm going to play this contract I don't worry about last year now he'd have been a free agent so now I think even on the open market at 36 he probably could approach 20 You think you can get 20? Two for 40? 22. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. For someone like that coming from a historic franchise, the last name itself alone, yes, absolutely. Yeah. But listen, that little three, you know what? We want you happy. We want to go into the season with everyone happy. We're going to give you – this is no disrespect.

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21:25We're going to give you peanuts. nuts.

21:27Shannon Sharpe:But hey, he feels good because he got something. He got$3 million more than what was on the contract. Plus, he understands that he's 36 years of age. The last thing you want is to be a distraction going into the season because you have your quarterback now. You think you have a team good enough to compete in the AFC North. You think you have a team that can get to the playoffs. Look, we want all cylinders to go. We want to be focused and go take care of the job at hand.

22:00Shannon Sharpe:uh the the story that we just started on way uh gundy he's the head coach he played at oklahoma state but he's the head coach now he said the roster that oregon trots out there last year was like 40 million dollars probably similar to what it is now and so he and dan lanning who happens to be the head coach at oregon had him back and forth oh so they're going back and forth and Lanning said in the post game it never requires extra motivation or an opportunity to go out and kick ass, but it never hurts when somebody pours gasoline on the fire. No, not at all. Gundy got to be careful. You got to be careful.

22:34Well, he got to be careful to start winning some games, but they're going to get his ass up out of there. Bingo, that too, but understand your personnel. Understand what you have to work with before you talk trash about a team like Oregon that you already know has a$40 million roster, which is what they had last year. Well, hell, if they had it last year, I'm sure they got some dog coming back this year as well. And guess what? They won a national championship, so they might have a little more. Thank you. So does your team, do you have the personnel to back up some of the trash talk you're doing?

23:03If you don't, you go into that game quietly so you don't give the other team ammunition or the head coach post-game material when you know damn good and well you're not going to go in and have a chance to win.

23:22you got to be self-aware as a coach it's all about self-awareness as a coach

23:28Shannon Sharpe:it is um somebody said it's like 23 million not 40 um something similar to what ohio state's playing look because they don't have a cap on it you can spend as much as as much it's an open market so you'll spend as much as the boosters are willing to put in there and whatever it takes to get a player like a Jeremiah Smith or a player, whatever it takes to get a Caleb Downs, who's your top-ranked safety, who left the University of Alabama once Coach Saban left. Okay, if that's what it takes to compete at this level, I'm trying to compete. I'm trying to compete. And I think that's what a lot of the coaches are like, look, we got to put a cap on this thing.

24:09Shannon Sharpe:You know what I'm saying? Because if one team could spend$100 million, and we, you know, well, hey, it is what it is. Have all your alumni to give$50. It's so funny. It's so funny. The coaches or people in positions of power want to put a cap on the NIL, but they didn't want to put a cap on how much. Coaches can make. Coaches can make and how much university could make off your likeness. But now the players are getting some money. Now they want to put a cap on it. Come on now. Come on now. So it is.

24:46Shannon Sharpe:69-3. Coach Gundy might be in trouble. Oh, no. No, no, no. They play at Oregon now. They're playing at Oregon. Ocho, don't give a damn who you playing. That's Oklahoma State. 69-3? Hey,

25:06the athletic director at Oklahoma State, no good and well, Brother Gundy's team stood no chance against Oregon. now you play someone of you know what matter of fact how about this florida lost to university of south florida we've been had his watch okay now that's a game if it was if it was gundy saying some things he said and lost to a a lesser team then yes losing oregon i don't see you being on a high seat for that it's not that losing to Oregon

25:43Shannon Sharpe:Ocho is 69 to 3 losing to Oregon it's not the loss you lose 27 to 10 you lose 35 to 21 Ocho that's Oklahoma State that's 69 to 3 and plus he's been think about it that program has not there's been some slippage in that program you know why it's slippage right? Well, he's not getting the level of talent that he once got. We need money. Yeah. We're there. They're fighting with Oklahoma State, didn't they? And I think the thing is, I think their biggest booster who the stadium's named after T. Boone Pickens passed away. Yeah. So the money ain't free-flowing like it once did. Well, whoever took over T.

26:34Shannon Sharpe:Boone Pickens, neither him. We're not generous like him. we we're not generous we're not generous like dad or or grandpa or whatever the case may be uh right right and that's the thing that's that's you know everybody doesn't look at that school is the same way that was his pride and joy strong hands built america and kept it running for 250 years strong hands also keep copenhagen moving today here's to the bravery of linemen, the endurance of truckers, the skills of welders, the traditions upheld by farmers, and all American tradesmen sharing in our work ethic. Copenhagen, celebrating American craftsmanship, proven since 1822.

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30:34Shannon Sharpe:Bill Belichick confirmed today, Ocho, following his first win at North Carolina, that scouts from New England Patriots do not have access to the program. It's clear I'm not working at their facility, so they're not working at ours. Coach Belichick, really? Yeah. Yeah, Bill. Let Bill stand on business. Let me ask you this. Tell me the coach that's been fired, that's coaching somewhere else, that's allowed to come back to the facility that he was fired at. You think Pete Carroll can go back to Seattle?

31:15Shannon Sharpe:what coach has been fired, still coaching, and can come back to where they got fired from?

31:31Shannon Sharpe:I don't think that if I get fired from my job and I go get another job, they're going to allow me to come back in the building at the job that I got fired from. It could. they might like me still but i doubt it right

31:50wait so you you gotta you gotta you gotta give me a little bit more here is there is there what is the reasoning for bill not allowing he's bad he's bad because he got

32:02Shannon Sharpe:fired he said he's not allowed in new england so they shouldn't be allowed there okay i like it i I like that level of petty. I like that level of petty. So you want to play? Ocho, I'm going to ask you a question, Ocho. Name the coach. You still haven't given me a scenario. So name the coach that's been fired. So if Marvin Lewis got another job, do you believe he could go back to Cincinnati while he's coaching another team? So you believe Marvin, while he was at Arizona State, he could go back to Cincinnati? Or Oakland. Okay, any one of them. No, no. Why not?

32:49That's a good one, huh? That's a good one. Just thinking about it, too, coaches in positions like that, that are coaching somewhere else, I don't even think they would feel comfortable going back to the place where they were fired from. He's talking about he doesn't feel welcome. Welcome, yeah, unless they're playing the game.

33:09Shannon Sharpe:hey you don't you don't like that level of petty it's not petty no coach is upset he's got five let me ask you a question how many coaches you think coach belichick is fired how many players has he cut oh that's a good one hey but what he's done for the organization you you don't you don't see why he would be upset you don't see why he would be mad after 20 years of what i gave him six champion uh how who knows how many afc championships he's not he's not a federal job or supreme court justice it's not a lifetime appointment you don't get to stay on the job forever if you're not with oh cho you know what sports are about it's about winning yeah and that was a bar too i like that i have a notepad i wrote that down coach belichick thinks because you know what i've been here 20 years i've won six super bowls and we've gone under nine.

34:02Shannon Sharpe:I should be able to. So even as we lose, we continuously lose with no hope on the horizon. I should still be able because of what I've done. Mr. Kraft says I paid you for that. I was paying you five, 10, 15,$20 million a year. So now I'm paying you based on what I believe you can do. And I don't believe you can get done what you need to get done because number 12 is gone. And I listened to you when you told me we should move off of 12 because he couldn't do it anymore. Right. That's tough. That's tough. I'm just confused why he's surprised that – but guess what? When you're no longer coaching, I believe you'll be able to go back, coach.

34:52Mm-hmm. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean – They're going to fix that, though. whatever whatever bill and mr craft are going through they're going to fix that they're gonna that it won't be fixed right now but at some point they will make amends because what they had was special huh what they had was special what they had was 20 years oh joe yeah yeah so

35:18Shannon Sharpe:are you want me to keep so you want me to keep you on for another five years with no i mean and we're getting worse. Well, you understand why they were worse. Yes. Because until you get that most important piece, that most important piece, to be able to build around it, that's exactly what's going to keep happening. Well, he led Mr. Kraft to believe that he could put anybody in there and do what Brady did. No, it doesn't work like that. Well, you should tell him that. You right. Sometimes a player is greater than the sum of all of its parts. Coach Belichick knew that. Coach Belichick wanted to keep a reign in place.

36:03Shannon Sharpe:Coach Belichick, what Tom wanted from Coach Belichick was validation. Coach Belichick knew that in order to keep this thing running, I can't give Brady any more credit than I give Richard Seymour, any more credit than I give Gronk, any more credit than I give them. That's how he kept control over it. And people are like, well, damn, I heard Aqib Tlaib saying how Coach Belichick would ream Brady out. I've heard you say it. I've heard other guys. That's how he kept control. Because if he'll ream out number one, everybody else will fall in line. He convinced Mr. Kraft that the Patriot way, the Patriot way was Tom Brady.

36:45Shannon Sharpe:That's the Patriot way. Tom Brady, because they still got their same, they're still disciplined, they still do all the things, and then nobody talks. It doesn't matter what way it is. You need a guy. And Tom Brady's don't grow on trees. There's only been one Tom Brady tree, and it's gone. So I don't know what, I don't know. I don't know. I really don't. I don't get this. Because he's only looking at the bad. He's only looking at he fired me. He's not looking at the other years in which he could have fired you for Spygate. Or he could have fired you for Deflategate. Or a host of other instances.

37:36Shannon Sharpe:But he's stuck by you.

37:41Shannon Sharpe:That's just me. Everybody doesn't see things through that prism. clearly he's still upset about getting fired you're not the first you're not the first great coach this guy look a lot of great normally you see uh a bill walsh step aside you see uh lombardi steps aside and then he uh he retires and then he goes and coaches washington um normally guys chuck no steps aside go i'm done so normally guys that win at that level they don't really get fired they step away you see guys that's won three more championships like jimmy jimmy johnson jimmy johnson got fired that's an anomaly chuck no one four he stepped aside uh coach shula one two stepped aside bill walsh one three stepped aside so normally when guys you know win three four uh uh mike mike won two at mr bowling and did i like they weren't getting any better.

38:40Shannon Sharpe:They were spinning their wheels. But see, those coaches, they knew in the fold. They knew in the fold. They understood the chances. Look at the landscape of the team. What you have coming back. What's leaving. You know in the fold. Sean Payton, he knew. He knew in the league. He knew. He saw the writing on the wall at a time. Drew Reed is done. Everything's getting old. Let me get up out of here. I gotta go. I gotta go. It's all about foreseeing. Foreseeing the future. Again, that's all a part of self-awareness. An unnamed UNC athletic source told the Boston Herald, why would we let them in our home after how he's been treated since he left?

39:29Shannon Sharpe:We will help our players being treated fairly is a two-way street. A two-way street for whom? I'm just trying to figure out. How has he been treated? because normally, Ocho, when you get fired from a job, they don't just let you arbitrarily just come back anytime. Right. I don't know. Like I said, I hadn't been on a whole lot of jobs, but, I mean, when I got let go at Fox, you know, I'm pretty sure my ID badge didn't work anymore. And then why would I be there? Right. Who goes back? I mean, who gets fired? Chad, y 'all can help me out because I've really never really had a nine to five, so I wouldn't know.

40:08Shannon Sharpe:So if you get a nine to five and you get fired, y 'all trying to go back to your job and hang out with your coworkers. Hey, man, what's going on? Man, what you doing here, Ocho? Man, I thought they fired you last week. Yeah, man, I just come to hang out with y 'all. If that would happen, Chad, y 'all help me out, Chad. Because like I said, I've never had a nine to five, but I wouldn't know. You have to think about it. All the things you have to be able to see from Bill's viewpoint. see it from the lenses in which Bill sees it at you know you see it one way but he sees it another which is why he's doing it so obviously he feel he feels some type of way about it we don't have all the information on why he feels that way but he does because he's actually doing it oh Joe we talk about this all the time the greater the accomplished player the person is the bigger ego Also, they fired a man that won six Super Bowls.

41:03Shannon Sharpe:Do you know what that does to your ego? Yes. Imagine Tom Brady, how he felt. You tried to get rid of me a few years earlier. And now, after everything that I've done.

41:23Shannon Sharpe:So, how must Tom Brady have felt?

41:31Shannon Sharpe:coach, I mean, damn. So you wanted to stay on forever? Even after you're winning nothing. So even so, no. The thing about sports is not lifetime achievement. It's to update your resume. You've done everything. He is a six-time Super Bowl winning coach. He is a coach of the year. He's a this or whatever you want to call it. He is the most accomplished coach in NFL history. He's that. You can't take that away from him, Ocho. But if I'm still paying you 15, 20 million dollars a year, there's an expectation I have for you to win. I'm not paying you 15 or 20 based on what you've done. I'm paying you 15, 20 based on what I believe you'll do.

42:20Shannon Sharpe:I've already paid you for those Super Bowls, Ocho. So how long? How long must I pay someone for something that they've already done? Yeah. Yeah. Once you don't have that quarterback, man, it becomes that much more difficult. Yes. Becomes that much more difficult. And Coach, look, he's great. These defenses and what he was able to help Tom do, saying, Tom, if you're in this formation, this is where you're vulnerable. If you did this, this is what I would do. This is what I think they'll do. It was a match made in heaven for 20 years. Yeah. A lot of marriages don't last that long, Ocho. A lot of marriages don't.

43:07Shannon Sharpe:Tom, there ain't a whole lot of coaches that a great player, quarterback, would have allowed the head coach. A lot of head coaches wouldn't even have the audacity or the gumption to even speak to a quarterback like that, at least not in front of the team. Now, maybe you call him in his office. Maybe you undress or dress down the quarterback. Okay, but not in front of the team. Tom allowed that to happen. He took it. He gritted his teeth. He bit his lip.

43:44He understood, though. He understood why. He understood why. It shocked me seeing it. That's the first day, first meeting.

43:52Shannon Sharpe:Maybe there were some things that were said. Maybe there were some things that were said, Ocho, that we don't know about. But I don't believe, like I said, and like you said, Ocho, we don't know all. All I know is that he was relieved of his duty. They agreed to go their separate ways.

44:12Shannon Sharpe:normally one person has to initiate that because it's hard for me to believe that we sit down at the exact same time and says, I think we should go our separate ways. He say that, I say that. It's like a divorce. We've decided to go our separate ways. No, somebody decided that they're going to go to a separate way. And I agreed, okay, we'll do that. We'll save face and we'll issue a joint statement since we're going our separate ways. Right.

44:40Shannon Sharpe:it's tough because of you're never going to see a run like this again Ocho you're never going to see a run like this no you're not

44:55the closest thing to it is down in Kansas City that means Andy

45:02Shannon Sharpe:would have to stay on another 12 years just to reach that you think Andy Reid got 12 years in it Andy's damn near 70 me. Dang. Yeah. So you got to understand how young Coach Belichick was when he got the job.

45:25Shannon Sharpe:I just look, it was a great situation. Nothing lasts forever. But I just wish they could put this behind them. Coach, Mr. Craft is going to put a statue out there once he's done coaching. Oh, yeah. he said it. I believe him. He's going to be one of the two players, two men from the organization that have a statue. It's just, I think it's petty. That's just me. The Jags are planning on for Travis Hunter to be an every down wide receiver and a situational corner tomorrow over the regular season open against the Carolina Panthers. Jackson. Yeah. initially were determined on a usage on a week-to-week basis.

46:11Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, are you surprised that this is the approach that they're taking? Absolutely not. Because the higher-ups, the coaches, they understand. He wouldn't be able to do it every play. He wouldn't be able to do it. But he can play receiver full-time and then be using packages on third down.

46:36I'm excited. I'm excited for him. I'm excited for the Jacksonville Jaguars. I'm excited for Trevor Lawrence to bounce back to get back to what we know we can do. A phenomenal throw to football. Him and Brian, excuse me, him and Brian Tomlin Jr. had a phenomenal season last year. Now you add an additional weapon with Travis Hunter. Oh, they're going to be nice. They should be nice. Like, it looks nice on paper, but you got to go out there and play. I'm excited to see Travis Hunter on the other side of the ball. It's a different ball game now. You know, it's a game of inches. You got to be on point every single time you step out there on the field defensively.

47:14And then injuries. You got to stay healthy, baby.

47:18Shannon Sharpe:You got to stay healthy. Yeah. I mean, that was a time, Ocho. Hey, when the defense was on the field, that was a time for me to decompress. To take my bag. And relax, yeah. Yep. You get to reset. You get to reset and prepare yourself mentally for the next offensive series.

47:39He's taking on a lot. But if there's anybody that can do it, I would love to see him do it. Doing it at the college level is one thing. Doing it at the NFL level is a whole other ball game.

47:50Shannon Sharpe:Doing it like we both believe he can do it periodically, but he wants to do it full time like he did it in college. So he wants to play 65, 70 plays on offense, 65, 70 plays on defense. That's where I think the problem comes in. But, hey, I'm all eyes. I'm going to watch. Yeah, absolutely. Can you imagine the Jaguars playing the Bengals, right? And he playing receiver full time. Dealing with Tee Higgins, dealing with Chase. Dealing with Jamar Chase and then having to flip sides and then go play receiver. Man, come on, boy. You know the kind of energy you got to exert when you're playing these receivers at this level?

48:31Shannon Sharpe:And the mental energy also, not just the physical energy. What? Yeah. Yeah, because, listen, it's a mental game to begin with. Absolutely. It's a mental game to begin with. But I like it. I'm happy for them. Listen, I'm locked in. I'm in Chicago. I'm at the DraftKings at the Sportsbook tomorrow. I don't know about connecting the Wrigley Field. They got it so big. Every game. I got access to every game. Oh, this is going to be nice. I can't wait. Ocho, have you seen? Hold on. The Bronco play tomorrow? The Bronco play tomorrow? Yeah. They play Titans. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Y 'all finna lose. Y 'all finna lose.

49:11There you go.

49:12Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, have you seen the Phillies' Karen video? Take a look at this video, Ocho. Let me know what you think. I ain't seen it. That was boring. Bro, you took it from me. You took it from me.

49:32I'm glad you heard that. Ocho, the hitter home.

49:38Shannon Sharpe:Help me out. Help me out here. We got another video.

49:49Shannon Sharpe:That's it. Is she running after the man with the ball? Ocho, what happened? They hit a home run. The ball is on the ground. He leaves his section. He go picks the ball up. He brings it back and gives it what looks like his son. She said he took the ball out of her hand. If I'm hearing the video correctly, what they're recording, they said she didn't have the ball. He reached out and picked the ball up off the floor. She didn't have the ball. He got there before her. He got there before her, basically. Right. I can see if he took it out of her hands. I can see if he took it out of a kid's hand.

50:27Shannon Sharpe:The ball was on the floor. He didn't take it. He was awful nice to just give it to us like, I don't want no. But ma 'am, just because that's not his section, that doesn't mean he can't go get the retrieval ball. She felt like she was entitled to it because it was in her section. So the question that I have, if somebody else from her section would have gotten the ball, would she have felt obligated? Well, the fact that she felt obligated and didn't get there fast enough, you snooze, you lose. When a home run is hit, Unc, it's the first person that gets to that ball. That's always been the rule.

51:09Yes. That's always been the rule. I don't attend many baseball games. When I do see a home run hit, I see everybody running to that goddamn ball. when people play in San Francisco and they hit a home run and it end up in that wall. Yeah, because he's cold. Yes, with Barry Ball. Yes.

51:24Shannon Sharpe:Ain't a whole lot of people have been hitting in the cove since Barry left. But yes, you're absolutely right. And it's the first one. Hey, and everybody out there in their little kayaking and trying to get the ball. Okay. If they hit the ball, Ocho, you in your kayak. I dive in that water and I get the ball. Don't be talking about this ain't your section. The hell, I don't care whose section it is. I dove in the water. I got this ball. Damn you. I got there first. Yeah.

51:50Shannon Sharpe:The guy is a lot nicer than a lot of people would have. A lot of people would have told that lady, forget you. I ain't giving you Jack. Oh, he gave it to her. Okay, that's cool. That's cool. I wouldn't have gave it nothing. I ain't going to even lie. That's my son. I got that ball for my son. Right. Now, he did. I think he got a signed back. I think I saw somebody say he going to fly the family to the World Series.

52:18okay I like that see that's the that's the good thing about videos when they go viral some of the players from the team they see what happens and they get in touch with the fan and then you even you get something better you get to meet the player you get bat you get a glove you get a ball and you get more access that's even better so all she got now is the ball and now they got even but let me ask you a question Ocho tell me chat let me know what y 'all think

52:43Shannon Sharpe:What do you think the chances are that lady was going to dive on that ball in a scrum and try to get it? No. That's normally what guys do. Guys dive into the scrum and bust their head or jump over somebody or spill their beer. We've seen guys try to catch the – hey, they got the baby in one hand, got the baby in a sling, got a beer in one hand, and they catch the ball. Guys do stuff like that. I haven't seen, not to say it hadn't happened, I just haven't seen a mom trying to catch a ball while she holding the baby. They're more like more protective. They're like, ooh, don't hit my baby. Guy's like, hey, I'm going to catch this ball.

53:27Shannon Sharpe:He wasn't going to jump on that pavement, mess her knees up, mess her clothes up, trying to get a baseball. She just thought it was easy because it wasn't a whole lot of people in that area. And he just ran over. He picked the ball up, got the ball held up, gave it to his son. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Man,

53:52Shannon Sharpe:just because you paid for it, it don't mean you're entitled to catch a foul ball, Ocho. It doesn't mean that you're entitled to get a home run ball just because you're in that section. If somebody beats you, so what happened? The ball trickles down. It lands in your section, but trickles down and goes in somebody else's section. Then what? You say, well, the ball landed in my section, but you didn't get it. Yeah. No, you can't do that. You're not obligated to it because you couldn't get to it. Thank you. Thank you. Now, if they want to give you the ball. Correct. Because you are a woman, then be grateful for that.

54:27But if they don't, they're not obligated to do that.

54:29Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. I guess you feel like, well, I paid for this ticket, and it landed in my spot, and you was faster than I was. Mm-hmm. I can see if he took it out of her hand. Yeah, that. He didn't take it out of her hand, Ocho. She's talking about you took it out of my hand. That woman's hand wasn't nowhere to – Chad, look at that. Look at the video. He didn't take that ball out of that lady's hand. Not even close. But I commend whoever gave him – whoever the Phillies player that gave him that signed bat. Do we know who gave him the signed bat? Hope it was Swarber or Bryce Harper. Hope it – Bader. Bader.

55:05Shannon Sharpe:Well, Bryce Harper, give him a signed bat.

55:11Shannon Sharpe:burger give him a sign back too

55:16Shannon Sharpe:yeah boy and a signed jersey get a kid something make them feel bad you got a five dollar ball and cause all this commotion because you felt entitled that you should have got the ball Oh, man. Lord, have a good season.

55:36Shannon Sharpe:But the guy even gave him the ball and just like, I don't want no problem, ma 'am. I don't want no problem. Lord, have mercy. Yeah. You know who I met when I landed here? The Cubs might be playing the Washington Nationals. Okay. And one of the better players that played for the Washington Nationals by the name of Josh Bale. I met Josh Bell and his family earlier today. When I walked in, it was cool. It was cool. Obviously, they watched the show. They watched the show and they said they love it. They say you and I was very funny. Josh Bell, I'm very, very respectful to him, you know, him and his family.

56:13But it was really cool, really cool to meet him. And I told him a story about how I almost played for the Marlins in 1997. He didn't believe me, though. No.

56:26Shannon Sharpe:He should. All right, guys, we're going to get you out here on this one. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

56:43JJ Carver said, is that Frozone?

56:46Shannon Sharpe:What's Frozone? What are you talking about? Are you trying to make fun of me? Oh, you're talking about an Incredibles with Samuel L. Jackson. Where's my super suit? oh okay okay I was cutting my best hey um you know I'm staying at the Ritz Carlton they gave me this they gave me this when I came in a little gift oh they gave you a little gift bag a little goodie bag I told them I was going to put it on told them I was going to put it on you know so boom I'm wearing it so Ritz Carlton everybody at the Ritz Carlton down here in Chicago I appreciate you see I got it on I got it on uh Dab Smith said Bryce Underwood is going to be good but he didn't play good tonight, but the OC for Michigan called a terrible game.

57:29Shannon Sharpe:Way too conservative on third down. You've got a quarterback that has arm talent. Why not give him a chance to make plays? I think if they could have got some third and shorts, it seemed like everything was kind of third and long. And you don't want to do anything to back your offense up. But I think, look, for an 18-year-old playing in a hostile environment his first his first road game and it's in or norman oklahoma i think he did okay um he'll be he'll be better for it moving forward uh shakur said nightcap fam love would think that stab is the answer for cu just because he looked okay against delaware uh what game besides baltimore excites you uh no i but look he looked better than the other two guys did against Delaware.

58:25Shannon Sharpe:It wasn't like he was playing Delaware and they were playing Alabama or Georgia. They were playing the same team. And the question that I asked, did he look better than the other two guys that were playing against Delaware? Yes or no? Now, I'm sure Prime would do his due diligence. Time obviously had enough confidence to put him in the game. So obviously he had liked something that he had seen during OTAs, training camp, and during the week of practice. You led him to say, okay, son, get in there. So we'll see how this thing plays out. But I'm excited about all the games. I mean, the Commanders play the Giants.

59:05Shannon Sharpe:We got some really good matchups tomorrow. Really good ones. The Packers play the Lions. Lions, yeah. Bears in the Bikers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got some good matchups this weekend. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. MSQ said, how great do you think BYU commit Folsom High School quarterback Ryder Lions can be? I don't know much about him. I'm not finna sit here and bull jive you. I'll have to take a look at him. We'll find out. I have to go back and look at some YouTube videos and see what he looks like. It's easy to say somebody's going to be good or great, but you don't know until you get them into your building and they put that uniform on.

59:46Yeah.

59:47Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Architect Nice TV. Thank you, Shannon. I said the same thing about Grambling playing Ohio State today. No point in playing for money that football team itself would never see just get embarrassed by 50. It just, I mean, you got to break by the time. If I give you a million dollars, Ocho, and you got to fly 70 players up, and you got to bring the band, and you got to feed them, and you got to put them up in a hotel, all of a sudden that ain't a million dollars no more. Go on that. It's gone. It's gone. I need to win the lottery because I'm for two years. I got y 'all. Kevin Norwood Jr., my question is, top four college quarterback, you talking about this year or all time?

1:00:31Shannon Sharpe:All time? I'm putting Cam in there. Cam had the greatest season ever. You go back and look at Cam and what he did with the talent that he had around him? Around him, yeah. And in the SEC? Yeah.

1:00:50Shannon Sharpe:all time man i think you have to put tebow in there for the simple fact of what he did

1:01:01Shannon Sharpe:cam tebow damn who else started a bunch of games i think baker i think you have to throw baker mayfield might might make my Man, there's a lot of quarterbacks. Tommy Frazier. I'm putting Tommy Frazier in there. That's a good one. Nebraska was hell back then. Boy, they was hell back then.

1:01:31Shannon Sharpe:Michael said, Ocho, Johnny, why is Stanford football still around? They haven't been good in years. I always get some bad stuff on national TV. but look I mean it's nice you go to Stanford bro you try to be a doctor you try to do economics you try to be tech I mean it's not I mean hey it's nice I mean see Matt gets to put that Stanford degree on his wall but most players that go to Stanford ain't gonna play in the NFL they're not really going thinking about playing in the NFL they're going to start thinking about a startup they're thinking about being a financial guy they're thinking about something uh google apple microsoft that's what they're thinking ocho let's just be honest

1:02:23yeah and football football is their their second or third priority huh football is their hobby

1:02:31Shannon Sharpe:mm-hmm yeah you go to Stanford you're not majoring in eligibility where did Richard Sherman go okay Richard Sherman understanding he had the skill set and the talent to play at the next level very good Christian McCaffrey understood I have the skill set and the talent to play at the next level outside of that are there any more oh andrew luck john elway john elway yes no very very very few very few uh arjun said hey okay y 'all wish me happy birthday arjun happy birthday hopefully you had a wonderful birthday i don't know if it was today or if it was yesterday or tomorrow or today if you're on the east coast but happy birthday hopefully you did something fun hopefully you're going to do something fun and you're going to get an opportunity to spend it with family, friends, and loved ones because that's what we should be doing on our birthday.

1:03:34Shannon Sharpe:That concludes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank each and every one of you that stayed up with us and joined us for Nightcap, joining Ocho and I. The game was okay. It wasn't great. It wasn't a barn burner. It wasn't a thriller. But we thank you for spending a couple hours with us on a Saturday night. Thank you. Thank you for joining us, Nightcap. I'm your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp, my partner and co-host, Frozone. Bingles, ring of fame. The pro bowler, the all pro, that's Chad Ochocinco Johnson. Please make sure you hit the subscribe button. Please make sure you hit that like button.

1:04:11Shannon Sharpe:And do us a favor, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcasts from. We'd like to thank each and every one of you for your loyalty, for your patience, and your understanding. Thanks to you, Nightcap has become what it's become. We appreciate your support and your continued support. Make sure you check out Shade by LaPortier. If you can't find it in a city or state near you, order it online. We'll ship it directly to your door. The best tasting premium VSOP cognac on the market. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. We have a limited edition series cognac from our brother Ben inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame, and he and I becoming the first two brothers inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

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1:05:35Shannon Sharpe:He'll be back in the States, and so we'll be back on a good Wi-Fi signal next week. So thank you, Johnny. Appreciate that. Enjoy your time over there. Get back to the States safely. look forward to talking to you next week. I am Unk. He's Ocho. Woo! A full schedule of football Sunday. Tomorrow. You don't want to miss what Ocho and I have to say. And, got a really great game tomorrow night. Buffalo. Baltimore. Woo! Gonna be a barn burner. I'm Unk. He's Ocho. See you tomorrow. Peace. Hooray. Hooray.

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