Nightcap Hour 2: Unc & Ocho react to Cam Newton leaving Jalen Hurts out of the Top 10 QBs

25:10The Asia Wilsons, you know? The Angel Reeses. I like where it's going. Paige Buckers. I mean, come on, man.

25:18Shannon Sharpe:Beckers. Beckers, yeah, my bad. I was thinking about Jam. Yeah, so I was thinking about Smuckers. My bad, my bad. Yeah, I think the thing is, I think, let's see, there's nine. You got at least, I mean, at least you got to get to 20 % at the bare damn minimum, right? You said, listen, you said 20. I was out for to say 19. No, but I'm saying, I'm saying that's at the bare minimum. Right. You're right. You're right. I like it. Shoot. Hey, listen. Look, Ocho, look, you and I both know. They're not about to get to 50%. They're not about to get to 50%. That's not. They're not going to get 50. No. So maybe, hey, can we triple it?

26:04Shannon Sharpe:Can we get to 27, 28 %? Yeah. Right. Shoot, they need to let me go on there. I get you with your own. i get i get what you owe put me in that goddamn room but who would i have to talk to huh if it comes down to to to the owners the owners oh shit well i mean what's what's the lady that's the the commissioner what's the lady kathy engelberg engelhart engelberg yeah i mean so basically you work with the commissioner then their lawyer yeah and uh uh uh the wmba lawyers and you have the WNBA PA and their lawyers and they're like okay. Yeah. Yeah, I walking in with my nice suit on.

26:59How you doing?

27:02Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, I think, look. So you're increasing basically 4%, 4.5%, right? So you're going up, I mean, you You're thinking about you going from four and a half. So you four times, four and a half times the money. You're going from 45 million annually to 200 million annually. And they're looking to bring on a couple other teams, right? Oh, we need a Miami team. Maybe I could be the owner of the Miami team. They had a Miami team. First of all, y 'all barely support the Heat. Stop. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on now. Don't, don't, don't. And they had a good player, Ruth Riley. She was one of the better players in the WNBA.

27:45Shannon Sharpe:She used to go to this boutique spin studio. But no, not Miami. Too much going on. What do you mean? But we... You know what? How y 'all doing with the Marlins? The Marlins? How y 'all doing with the Heat? You know y 'all come to the game at halftime at the Heat, right? Yeah, but hold on. Listen to me. Listen to me real quick. See, it's one thing. This is what I love about Miami. Let's talk about the women. We talk about the WNBA. One thing about women. is women show up on time. One thing about women, women support each other. You know why we know they don't. That's why we're in the situation that we're in.

28:23Shannon Sharpe:Because if women supported each other, it'd be more. That's the problem. Okay, okay. The women ain't supporting the women in the WNBA. Right, I see. Yeah, okay, you're right. You're right. I just think for some reason, if I was to start a WNBA franchise, that thing would be lit, boy. I have, it's not American Airlines renting no more. What is it? hell don't start me to lie in hell you live in miami i forgot the name of the arena it was fta i mean listen all them scam they they be scamming the names and they keep changing so i don't know but yeah i want look i i think can we get can we get the salary can we get the top salaries to at least a million dollars a year ocho now we talking can we get before juju get here can we get like that can we get at least can we get i mean i think the highest you can make is what 245 250.

29:16hmm man make it no make it 500 man make it 500. hey hey them young ladies eight young ladies um boy when they be 17 million

29:27Shannon Sharpe:oh who makes 17 oh so now you talk about three million you have some three million some$3 million ladies. Yeah. Yeah. And A.J. Wilson? She should be making$3 million a year. I was hoping that I triple it, go to$27,$28. I don't think they go into$40, Ash. I don't think they're going to even get to$30. The internet asked only to 40%.

29:53Shannon Sharpe:I think realistically, 20, I think 2025. and maybe go incrementally from there from that point yeah hey hey that's a good idea man now that I think about it I would sit here ponder and reflecting on like me me and you we can go half on a WNBA franchise in Miami hey do you see the Valkyries they just got they just got valued at 500 million who the Valkyrie they just came into existence last year 500 million right Liberty 450 right no Shannon Ocho ain't going to do nothing nah listen I'm let me let me call I'm gonna call Jeff tomorrow I'm gonna set up a call with Jeff I'm gonna set up a call with Jeff yeah those franchises are becoming very I mean you see Eli Eli the back down you know he was supposed to become a a solid partner but you know one percent partner with the with the uh the giants who would you die eli manning okay we said no bro you see the valuation of these teams oh yeah yeah so even even if you're talking one percent oh you're talking hundreds of millions yeah yeah ain't a whole lot of people just sitting on 100 million i can go get their hands on 100 million dollars ojo i know somebody yeah i know somebody too yeah it just ain't nobody ain't nobody i'm really close to

31:24Shannon Sharpe:I know some people too. It just ain't nobody I'm close to. Yeah. I know some people. I know a few people. Hey, that was a good one. That was a good one. I don't think people really, hey. I mean, when you can just go, hey, go touch it. I mean, you can go touch it. Man, look here. Nah. But I look. I would like to see them at least at the absolute bare minimum. Yeah. It goes to double, which would be 18.5 % to 19%. I would like it to be somewhere, you know, being realistic. I like to be realistic. I'll be pie in the sky and say, yeah, let it be like the NFL or NBA. But that's not going to happen out the top, out the rip.

32:07Shannon Sharpe:So if we can get that thing somewhere between 20 % and 25%. I like it. Make it 24%. And go out and support them. Yeah. So I'd support them. People, I know y 'all listening. Whatever city you're in, make sure you go out there, you support the young ladies, man. Support these ladies. Shoot, goddamn game. Dope as hell. Every time I think about that goddamn experience at the Atlanta Dream game in Atlanta, man, Jesus Christ. Stop playing. Yeah. Hey, wait. Houston got a team? Houston got a team? Houston got a team? Houston got a team? Houston got a team? I feel happy. You heard me? Huh? Houston got a team?

32:49Shannon Sharpe:They had a team, the Comets. They won the first four NBA titles. So no more. But I think, aren't they trying to get another team? In Detroit? Because Detroit had the shock. Detroit won the championship when Cheryl Ford, who was Carl Malone's daughter, they won the title. I don't think Cleveland's ever, who else had a, Miami had a team. Houston had a team. Detroit had a team. I'm trying to think. Does anybody else? Sacramento used to have a team. They had the Monarchs. Tisha Pinocero. Miami Soul. Miami Soul, okay. Charlotte State. Charlotte. The Rockers. Oh, the Rockers. So Cleveland did have a – oh, wow.

33:34The Portland Fire.

33:35Shannon Sharpe:Okay. I think Portland's going to keep the same name, aren't they? Is it – Okay. I don't know. Is it – because you said Cleveland, Detroit. What's the other one? Portland? No. Philly. Philly. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Just Josh Harris, right? Yeah.

34:03Yeah. I'll figure. Yeah.

34:08Shannon Sharpe:I think, hey, I'm hoping, I'm keeping my fingers crossed 20, 25%. Yeah. I like it. That way we can have some women making a million, two million dollars. Marcus Smart agreed to a contract buyout with the Wizards and plans to sign a two-year,$11 million deal with the Lakers after clearing waivers. The 31-year-old who just played 54 combined games over the last two seasons due to injuries bring a strong defensive presence to the Lakers. According to Shams, Luka personally reached out to Smart, making it clear he wanted him on the team. Ochoa, with the defensive, the 2022 Defensive Player of the Year, what does this do for the Lakers?

34:53It doesn't do much, huh? As good as Marcus Smart is, I don't think their problem, obviously having a defensive presence like him is awesome, but on the offensive end, they still need a big. That's the problem. They need a big. Now, I know I'm not Doris Burke when it comes or George Sodano when it comes to talking or Tim Legna when it comes to talking basketball, but I've been watching long enough to know that you need a goddamn big when you get to the goddamn playoffs to be able to compete for them specifically. That's what they need. Marcus Smart, great addition, but what are we doing here? Are you sure you're trying to do what's necessary to win this season?

35:39maybe I'm wrong maybe chat do y 'all see something that I don't see with the Lakers that signing Marcus Smart as good as he is

35:46Shannon Sharpe:what are we getting the old Marcus Smart or old Marcus Smart that's a good one I like that I like where you went one I added V and the other I left the V off right

36:04Shannon Sharpe:you should have a very highly motivated DeAndre Ayton because he got a one-year deal. Marcus Mart signed a one and a one. So he should be motivated.

36:17DeAndre Ayton. Portland Trailblazers, DeAndre Ayton? Phoenix Sun, Phoenix Sun, DeAndre Ayton? Yep. I think that's my Bahamian brethren, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah. Damn. how tall is DeAndre? Seven. Seven what? Seven foot. Boy, he's seven foot? Yep. Okay. Okay, okay, okay. Lakers, okay. You got a little presence down there. He's not as bad as the Ryan. What's the Ryan dude you say you don't like? Who? For the Lakers. The one you say was just tall for nothing.

37:03Shannon Sharpe:Oh, man. You talking about Lynn? Alex Lynn. Yeah, he's not. I thought you said Alex Lynn was seven foot.

37:14Shannon Sharpe:I didn't know. Sardines reached that high.

37:21So DeAndre Ayton is levels above. He's better than Lynn. He's a double-double guy. He'll get you 14 and 10.

37:30Shannon Sharpe:Okay, okay, okay, okay. He'll lob presents. All right. he give you 14 he should be highly highly motivated he sees the money that Chet Holmgren got he sees the money that they're paying bless you he sees the money that they just gave Miles Turner bro you younger than Miles Turner yeah hey you go out there and play you could end up getting you a five-year$170 million deal. Yeah, bro. It's not too late? Man, DeAndre Ayton can't be no more than 26, 27. Well, you done been in the league for a little minute now. DeAndre Ayton is 26 years old. He's about to turn 27. He turned 27, so he's 27. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

38:29Yeah, the motivation is getting to that bag, especially if you sign them when you go out there and have a hell of a season this year. Exactly. Okay. Exactly. I got you. Got to lock in and focus. It ain't. Ocho.

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42:05Shannon Sharpe:Damn. What is this? John Varvatos? We got them right there. John Varvatos. Um, what else we got? Gucci. Beautiful. Nice little Gucci boots right there. This unit might be better than the other one. No, it's already looking better than the other one. I'm loving this, guys. Look at this. Red bottoms. Christian Louboutins. You guys see them right there. Red bottoms. Another pair. Oh, my lordy lord. Guys. Guys. Guys. Holy. Oh, my God. Chad Johnson, thank you. Thank you. Oh, my God. Look at these soccer cleats, guys. Look at these soccer cleats. These are made out of kangaroo leather for sure. Guys, these are probably worn in the actual ocho cinco or signed by someone there.

42:58You guys see it? Ronaldinho, pretty sure. You think that's Ronaldinho? Yo, could this be Ronaldinho? Boom, boom, boom. Signed. Holy crap. Guys, these are all signatures by probably the whole team right there. Holy crap. Look at that. He's so hype. Ojo! What? How you get that? That's my old storage from 2000... 2000... Is that in Miami or in Cincinnati? Well, that's down in Miami, all the way down on the other end. Long, long... How do you get rid of stuff that you don't want anymore and that was the best way to do it because I'm not hoarding none of that stuff. That's from like 2004, 2005. I don't dress like that.

43:59That's that 20, 20-year-old, late, early 30s Chad. I'm about to be 50. I ain't going to wear no back. Donate it. Donate who? Do I look like the person that's going to take all that stuff and take it through the Mississippi. You left Chris Henry jersey in there. Not. That's the one that's signed by all my teammates. My real Chris Henry jersey, the one that he wore, that sign, is here.

44:34Can you hear me? I hear you now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My Chris Henry jersey is here. That's a Chris Henry jersey signed by all my teammates that played with. Hell, I got all them fools on goddamn group chat. so you ain't gonna get it back I don't want none of that here this is how I live my life right stay with me real quick y 'all stay with me real quick I live life in two parts like a stage play act one football clothes, fashion all that fun stuff them days is long gone I feel you I'm talking about long gone step two act two new life new house new beginnings transition from all that old shit and the new stuff i'm not taking nothing from the past into act two none of it so what's the best way to get rid of it man take be happy i don't like nobody digging through my stuff though

45:39Shannon Sharpe:it ain't my stuff no it ain't no more your stuff no more I don't want it that's why I left it what if they find some skin mark drawers up in there why would I have skin mark drawers I use dude wipes I use dude wipes and I got a bidet did I say that right a bidet close enough but okay my bad but on a serious note it was so much stuff it couldn't go with me. Where I'm trying to go I can't bring that. No. I can't bring it. I feel you. Yeah I can't. I couldn't. I'm glad Young Bull is happy man. You know I'm all about giving. I stay giving.

46:24Shannon Sharpe:I don't want to give nothing. I ain't got no I don't know I ain't got no store unit. I got all my stuff here. See I can't I don't see how you do it. I don't see how you do that. I don't see how you do it. It's at my grandma's house, it's at Atlanta, or it's here. I can't do it. Listen, here, where I'm at now, listen, you know what I'm talking about. When I talk about new beginnings, I don't want nothing from back then going where I'm headed now. Nothing, Nick Daniel. All right, Ocho, it's time for our final segment. Wait, no, no, no, no. Let's stay on a little bit more. I'm feeling good tonight.

47:04Shannon Sharpe:Okay, you feeling good. So what you want to talk about, you want to talk about your locker? I mean. What locker? If you're going to find anything of value, really significant value. If you're going to find a Rolex, if you're going to find a diamond ring, if you're going to find some, if you're going to find 20K and cash. It's storage. Nothing of value is in storage. Everything of value, everything of value. Let me ask you a question. Everything of value. Did I send you something today that somebody found in storage that was valuable? no what you sent me go back and look at your dms and see what i sent you with that guy found in storage didn't i send it to you no what was it oh that's what you do look at your d uh do you know how long that thing is from way from like 2007 what that storage no i'm saying you said people don't find nothing to value i sent you something in your dm but somebody found something real valuable in storage hold on let me see yeah

48:10Shannon Sharpe:back up okay oh my goodness so is there anything of value in there ocho a man finds 7.5 million cash in the 500 no that ain't man just paid 500 for a storage unit sold by auctioneer dan dodson only to discover a safe stuffed with$7.5 million in cash. After word got back to its original owner, they offered a$1.2 million to recover the funds. The buyer accepted, walking away with$1 ,199 ,500 in profit. I tell you what. Hey, I tell you what. Listen, that ain't clean because ain't nobody with no clean money going to have it sitting in storage. Let's start there. Of course, there's a reason he gave it back.

48:56Anybody in their right mind ain't giving up no seven seven million dollars for just 1.2 so you already know they made that call and say hey we need that back that's a that's a whole different ball game but people know people find valuable stuff in there all the time i ain't i ain't no i ain't no that ain't what

49:15Shannon Sharpe:i do so i ain't no stories now but people have found stuff not that kind of cash but people have found thousands of dollars they found valuable i mean you got you got you got a thing you got it stuff I ain't played football in how long? How many years it's been, you think? Probably 15 years, probably. So that stuff been in there damn near 15 years, huh? I ain't seen it in 15 years. Man, I don't... I'm good. You don't want anything, anything. Nathaniel! I don't know why you bought them red shoes. Hey, listen. You playing on clowning somebody with them red shoes? I would clean. I had a deal with Louboutin back in the day.

49:58So I used to get Louboutins free. If you've been following me on Twitter long enough, there was a time where I gave away Louboutins every week. It was either every Monday or the first week of every month on Twitter. I had all kind of Louboutin. I ain't got... I'm days old, man. I got me a nice pair of Air Force Ones. I like that. I got me some open-toed sandals, and I'm good. Oh, having four, 500 shoes. I'm a minimalist. Everything in this house is all white. That's it. If it ain't white, it ain't coming in. If it ain't white, it ain't right. Well, somebody got

50:34Shannon Sharpe:something in mind. The lady that used to do my, what's it called, that cleaned for me. I left everything. I said, Blanca, her and her friend named Vicky, they used to clean. I said, whatever you want, you can take. But what you don't take, you got to go to the trash. She's like, Mr. Shannon, you let me have all this? I say, all the bedroom stuff, all the dinette stuff, whatever you want, you take it. Yeah. All glass, marble, all white, custom. I had custom white furniture, Ocho. I had that furniture since 1992. I paid 30 grand for it in 92. Yes. You paid what? How much? 30 grand for that white couch.

51:22What?

51:22Shannon Sharpe:In 1992? In 92? In 92. Well, what the hell kind of furniture that was? Custom. The people that made it, they stamped it on the bottom of it. Right. So she got the sleigh bed, she got the glass marble table. Yeah. She got the big... Man, I had a... You know that big dining where we ate that? Man, that thing so much... I told her, I said, Blanca, don't you hurt yourself trying to have... I said, you need about five or six men that know what the hell to do in the mood of that table. That table, the glass is that thick. Right, right. And the bottom, man, Ocho, I ended up having to get an epidural.

52:04Shannon Sharpe:Man, I tried to lift that table myself and blew my back out.

52:10Shannon Sharpe:I know y 'all in the chat talk about pause, but man, Ocho, I lifted like this here. That's what I'm saying. You ain't bend your knees? all i know all i know is like a like a week later i was i was face down getting it up a door never again that was the last that was the last time i've ever tried to move anything if it ain't no if it ain't hung no hangers no no shirts i ain't moving nothing i'm paying I'm going to pay somebody to come in here they're going to fold it up, they're going to put it nice and neat and they're going to write on the box what it is and then they're going to say, hey Mr.

52:57Shannon Sharpe:Sharp, this is such and such, where would you like this? Upstairs Downstairs Right there You see how you did everything yourself? I did everything me I ain't did nothing myself I ain't moving nothing Oh I'm saying how you had people do the boxes in there. Yeah, man. When I came to this, this all White Castle, I did all this on my own. I packed the boxes. I wrote everything on there. I got the U-Haul. I drove the... Man, listen. Man. I said, man, how long is it going to take? I said, how long is it going to take y 'all to get there? I said, you ain't going that far. I said, Mr. Sharp, we can be there.

53:45Shannon Sharpe:couple of days i said uh can you make it a day and a half for the right price man i stayed in the hotel she had a couple of her girlfriends sat up everything they got you right huh yeah yeah but i don't know man uh i like i said i had i had a i don't know the other stuff i had has like some football cards and stuff right in storage but i ain't really ever had anything i still got my um my uh college shoulder pads right i still got those they'll put it up under the garage yes the bag that it actually came in you know because they end up giving that but i i keep i i'm very sentimental locho see that see that's the difference between me and you remember i told you not too long ago i don't have no memorabilia yeah when i am done with the game of football and it passes on and it's no longer i don't care about that stuff anymore it's of no value to me no i got that that's the way i've always been always i told a story uh about how my mom brought us those white blazers me and my brother right white tuxedo blazers right looking like a john travolta and saturday night people I still got it.

55:04Shannon Sharpe:I still got the burgundy shirt to go long with it. I still got overalls that I took when they took a picture of me. I was sitting in a cardboard box. Right. I still got it. I got a little jacket that when I was like six, I still got it. Yeah, I'm not like that. I'm not like that at all. I never had been. I think my grandma was, my mama was, my little brother. I'm not sure. I'm calling my little brother. He's 30-something now. I'm just not like that, huh? Yeah. I just, when the game, when the game, when it's gone and it's passing me by, like my grandma used to tell me when I got in trouble. My grandmother held everything.

55:40I washed my hands. I'm good. I was at peace. I was at peace. I'm good. Now, if I could find that goddamn jacket I put on, that Hall of Fame jacket. It might be in there. No, it's not. It's not in there because I've been looking for it for years. I've been looking for it for years since that damn game. One of them fans got it and don't want to give it to me.

56:01Shannon Sharpe:Well, look, the only thing that I'm missing is that my brother got me a Rolex, a two-tone Rolex for my graduation. So if somebody found it in a pawn shop, it says,

56:16Shannon Sharpe:congratulations, I'm proud of you, Shannon, big bro sterile. If y 'all see that out there, y 'all get it to me. I got something for y 'all. It's on the Jubilee bracelet. It's two-tone, gold down the middle. Yeah. but y 'all know it's me how many Shannon Sterling you know yeah yeah you right you right but I don't know in the process of moving Ocho I lost it and I don't and I everything that my brother's ever given my sister like my sister give me silver dollars for washing the dishes my brother gave me I told you my brother cut me on my leg and he paid me like five dollars not to tell I still got it

57:02Shannon Sharpe:I still got it. I got a pack of Susan B. Anthony dollars, Ocho. Yeah. That an ex gave me back in 1996. I still got it. What you doing? Listen, you got to let me out. You're different. You love the sentimental value of things. I just don't. and I've always and it's funny I've always been like that like once once a time or I just that's why somebody give me somebody give me something Ocho I can't I can't man I'm not like that that's why it's so easy for me no I can't let me take that back let me take that back Ocho let me take that back let me take that back I can't I have I have but I still have a lot I'm talking about a lot a lot of stuff yeah hey you know what that's why that's why it's so easy for me to detach.

58:01You see? You see how not only can I treat what other people, everybody see oh my God, he found your storage unit. It's so many valuables. Shit ain't valuable to me. It's not valuable to me. It's not valuable to me anymore. The same way I can detach from that or stuff that people feel is valuable, in the same way I detach from people that are closest to me. that wrong you okay hey um i'm talking about i would detach quick and don't even look back oh that's okay good i'm gone i'm out clean easy so if you think listen if i if i would leave you and don't care you think i'm for the kib i definitely need the possessions some shoes and clothes and then and i'll tell you remember me man i don't care man about that shit next and keep it moving.

58:57Shannon Sharpe:All right. Time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q &A. Damn, time went by fast. See what happened? We having a good time, good conversation? It must be what you call it. It must be football season around the corner. Because that's how it happened. Meach.kdo7 said, oh, do you think you guys would have three-peated if you won the Super Bowl in 96? No. I mean, it takes a toll on you. Injuries start to pile up because you're playing. I mean, Ocho, you know back then, you know, it wasn't like it is now. It wasn't no protections afforded to players. It wasn't no protections afforded to the receivers and the tight ends and the quarterbacks.

59:39Shannon Sharpe:You could blindside block somebody. It would just take too much out of you. I'm not going to, oh yeah, we the three-peated. There's a reason why nobody's ever done it. think about it they've been playing football uh super bowl since 60 what 66 yeah it's hard nobody's ever done it hard got close yeah chiefs so no patriots too no the patriots the patriots didn't get back to the super bowl oh wait they didn't they didn't okay you're right they showed it they showed it that's right Dr. Frank L. Bellamy said,

1:00:43Shannon Sharpe:Start shutting down things. Shut down your lungs. Shut down your kidneys. Shut down your liver. Shut down your heart. And he happened to have one of his daughters there with him, and they called 911. They were able to get him in. Had he been by himself, we're not able to have this story. We're not having this conversation about Ronnie being here. But, yeah, Ronnie, we wish you the absolute best. Yes, sir. Great dude. I've been knowing Ronnie long, long before he became Mr. Olympia. And I can honestly say this about him. you know a lot of times you hear people say well he ain't changed a bit Ocho he is the exact same the way he was after he won the Mr.

1:01:27Shannon Sharpe:Olympian became the biggest bodybuilder in the world he was exactly like that before he became Mr. Olympian he was humble he talked talked to everybody he's outstanding I'm glad we had an opportunity to sit down I had to do that piece with him last year. I've always wanted to did one with Phil. Jay Cutler next on my list. But Ronnie has been the same. And you know he's had a tough time of it. He has no regrets. Anybody, and that's just not for sure. If you ask him about regret, the only regret he told me he had, he said, Shannon, I hate I didn't squat that 800 pounds five times. All them back surgeries.

1:02:10Shannon Sharpe:He got metal rods. I mean, hey, he held together with spit, duct tape, and electric tape. And the only regret he has, Ocho, he's that man. I should have squatted at 800 pounds five times. 800? 800. He started out as a power lifter. Right. So he had very, very dense muscles. If that's why you see the back, you see his hamstrings, his glutes. If you see that feathering, that's what they call when you shred it like that. They call it feathering. Look like lady fingers or look like feathers through his chain muscles, hamstrings, glutes, all that. But he said that's the only regret I have. I didn't squat that 800 pounds five times.

1:02:54Shannon Sharpe:That's crazy, boy. That's strong, man. Dang. Jatorian Fox, 2187. Jamar got to face Alexander Ramsey Ward two times a year. He like that now. I mean, hold on. He ain't going to shy away from, he's not going to shy away from the competition. What's that supposed to mean? You mean they got to face him?

1:03:20You structured the sentence the wrong way. They got to face him. Get it right now.

1:03:29Shannon Sharpe:He him. Chase that dude. He'll be okay. Leon Bay, you said, Hey, Ocho, do you think if Lamar has another early playoff exit in 2025 that it's time to have a real conversation in Baltimore? Lamar has no more excuses. They have a loaded roster, and he's MVP. Well, they've always had a loaded roster. What conversations do they have? Yeah, they have. No, they're looking to do a contract extension. I wouldn't be surprised if Lamar Jackson at some point in time become the highest paid player in the NFL. He jumps over. He pole vaults over up in Buffalo. Yeah, absolutely. I mean to have a conversation about what you could have a conversation the conversation is Lamar hadn't gotten it done, but if you talk about having a conversation about Lamar moving on Man believe I'm gonna hang the phone up on you And close the door your face.

1:04:19Hey, I don't think I don't I don't think people understand when people say stuff like that I don't I don't think they understand how difficult it is to find a quarterback Especially a quarterback when in conversation is top three in NFL and everybody

1:04:33Shannon Sharpe:Lamar can't be no more than 27, 28. Man, please. He's 28. Like I said, yes, we can have a conversation, and we will. If they don't get to him, win the Super Bowl this year, we'll have a conversation that Lamar Jackson didn't get it done. The Baltimore Ravens didn't get it done. But if we're talking about any other type of conversation, moving on from Lamar Jackson, hell no. I will give I will give Lamar Jackson every opportunity until I don't feel that we can feel the team around him because his salary has gotten so astronomical. Right. But no, hell no. Let Lamar go. He's one of the three best quarterbacks in the NFL.

1:05:17Shannon Sharpe:You talk about letting him go because he ain't got to the Super Bowl. And he might not. But I ain't letting him go.

1:05:28Shannon Sharpe:We six, seven years away from that, from having a discussion at potentially Lamar somewhere else. But that's not even in Steve Bichotte, DaCosta, or Ozzie, and John, that's not even in their mind. He's about to be the highest paid. What did Josh get? He about to get$260 million,$70 million fully guaranteed. Nah, uh-uh. Lamar ain't going no damn where. I hope he like Baltimore because he ain't going nowhere no time soon. Nope. Tay-Tay to Wavey. Sup, Ocho. What do the Ravens have to do to get over the hump this season? Don't turn the ball over in the playoffs. That's it. Simple as that. I don't need Lamar to have one of those games where he throw for 300, he rush 400.

1:06:21Shannon Sharpe:I just need him to be Lamar Jackson. I don't need Superman Lamar. I don't need the perfect quarterback rating Lamar. I don't need the guy that you enjoy stick that he's running and hitting the spin. Lamar, just take care of the football. That's it. Simple as that. You have the players around you at the running back position, offensive line, tight ends, wide receivers, and you have a defense. They're good enough. Just don't turn it over. That's all he has to do. Just don't turn it over. He's that good. He's good. He's gotten better every year. Mm-hmm. Am I surprised that he's – the only thing that surprises me is how well he's thrown the ball.

1:07:05Shannon Sharpe:Man, he threw for 41 touchdowns. 41. If somebody would have told me, Sheldon, you know, within six, seven years, Lamar Jackson is going to throw for 40 touchdowns and say, I don't believe it. Mm-hmm. Based on his style of play coming to the season. Do I believe he can be a starting quarterback in the NFL and they can win a lot of games? Yes. Because I say, no, no, no, no, no. I saw what he did. I saw what he did at Louisville. Louisville, yeah. The guy threw for 3 ,500 yards, rushed for 1 ,500 yards. Yeah. No, no, no. He can play in the NFL. He can play. But 41 touchdowns, Ocho? I didn't see that.

1:07:39Shannon Sharpe:That's a lot. Nobody saw that. Anybody tell you they saw that, they lied, because if they would have saw that, then they took it with the number one overall pick. Bingo. If you saw that Lamar Jackson was going to be a two-time league MVP, finished second or third time, and you say, well, he's going to throw one year, He's going to throw 40, have 36 touchdowns with six picks. And then he's going to come back and throw another 41 touchdowns with four picks. And guess what? By the way, he's going to rush for 1 ,200. You'd have taken him with the number one overall pick. And if I'm not mistaken, Baker was the number one overall pick that year.

1:08:10Shannon Sharpe:And Josh Allen was number seven. You'd have taken, if somebody would have told you, Lamar Jackson was going to be what he became, you're taking him number one overall. Absolutely. You don't have the Ravens trade back into the first round to take him at 32 if you believe he's going to... Everybody say, oh, I knew that. No, you didn't. No, you didn't. Because what he's doing, no quarterback has ever done that before. I mean, a quarterback that can rush for 1 ,200 yards in a season and throw for 40 touchdowns in a season? Nah. Hold on, Mike. Don't forget he only threw four interceptions, man. Huh?

1:08:46He only threw four interceptions. That's what I'm saying, yeah.

1:08:49Shannon Sharpe:Remember the year he won the MVP on Joe? he threw 36 the first touchdown he was unanimous he threw 36 and 6 that's you know that's them Aaron Rodgers and his prime type numbers too and he's gonna give you 700 to 1000 yards rushing averaging 8-9 yards a clip that's crazy talk about who was that asking we need to have a conversation shit about what

1:09:18Shannon Sharpe:prime oh Jalen Ivy said prime Adrian Peterson or prime LaDainian Tomlinson. Wow. Now that's a good one. That is a great one. That's a good one. Again, it's all on preference. It's all on preference. That's what it come down to. I wasn't in the league with AP played. I got a chance to see LT.

1:09:45Shannon Sharpe:LT had, in three seasons, LT had 69 touchdowns.

1:09:52Shannon Sharpe:I saw LT rush for 1 ,600 yards. Check this out. I saw LT rush for 1 ,600 yards, have 100 catches, and not make the Pro Bowl. Mm-hmm.

1:10:07It's crazy.

1:10:08Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all know LT had 31 touchdowns in the season, right? Yep, I remember that year. That's the year we had those touchdowns. Y 'all do realize that? Yep. people don't see i don't think people realize how good lt was y 'all don't realize how good y 'all don't realize how good ladenian thompson was i do because i got a chance to see him up close and personal you gotta do your homework i saw him put 200 plus yards rushing yards on us and catch 10 passes against us i saw that with my own two eyes

1:10:41Shannon Sharpe:ap different oh lord damn this is not an easy one all day they're two different players completely different IBAC workhorse running back but LT man how many touchdowns LT got like 150 something I mean LT got I mean LT catch it listen Listen, because Jerry got 208, and then I think it's Emmitt, and then it might be like LT, or is it Randy? Because I think Randy got 156, TO got 153. Where's LT?

1:11:27Shannon Sharpe:LT got 145 total touchdowns, right? Jesus Christ.

1:11:34Shannon Sharpe:I want to see the guy that catch Jerry. That's what I want to see. I hope I'm allowed to see the guy that gets 209 touchdowns. Hey. That's what I want to see, Ocho. That's going to be – I don't know what we're going to be. So, no, LaDainian Thomas got 162 total touchdowns, Ocho. That's third behind Emmitt because Emmitt, I think Emmitt is next. But Jerry got 208. Jerry got 197 receiving touchdowns. Do y 'all know how many touchdowns that is? Oh, that's crazy. Jerry got what, 202 or 208? I think he got 208. Oh, that's crazy.

1:12:20Yeah.

1:12:23Shannon Sharpe:207? Yeah, 207, okay.

1:12:29Shannon Sharpe:We got a pick, Ocho. Prime Adrian Peterson or LT? Oof. I think I'm going to take LT. I'm going to go all day then. And listen, that's one of those questions. You really can't go wrong regardless of who you pick. Again, it all comes down to preference. I personally like the fear that all day Adrian Peterson puts in defenses. Oh, yeah. I personally like the fear. And you can see it. Nobody, they don't want to come up and tackle. Man. Man, did you know how many times I saw that man put his hand behind his head and flip the ball to the referee? LT? That was a celebration right there. That was a celebration.

1:13:21Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, man, I saw that so many times. How many times he did that. As a matter of fact, he broke the record against the Broncos. Mm-hmm. Because I think Priest has set it. Priest Holmes has set the record with 28. LT went and got 31. Do y 'all know how many touchdowns, 31 touchdowns there was in a season? Yeah. Do y 'all have any idea for a running back? Hold on. And that was in the 16-game season, if I'm not mistaken, right? 16. 16. That's crazy. You want to see Ocho? Titus. What's up, what? Bro. All you did was jump up. When they do twin, he tied, huh? He tied. I got to take him for a jog with me.

1:14:09see if he can see if he can run

1:14:14Shannon Sharpe:why you ain't in the bed it's way past your bedtime buddy

1:14:20uh

1:14:23Shannon Sharpe:quentin mobley or mobley how do they say it because you know where i grew up at they call it mobley but i guess if you're from the north they say mobley but anyway uncle ocho did y 'all see one-hand flag football catch by Bryson Wright. Listen, I even said, I even said, but that's probably the greatest catch I have seen, and that was even including NFL catches. Then somebody said, it's flag football. They didn't even have pads on. Well, hell, when we practice during the week, they don't have pads on either in the NFL. the flag doesn't change the game it's still football it's still a great catch that's that was great oh the man he went this way yeah he went the man stop playing man for one you're losing vision you lose oh you know how you can't explain people that doesn't catch balls for a living how difficult something you have to do that was nice that was nice that's up there with brandon lloyd that's up there with brandon lloyd that's up there with what what odell obj's catch man buddy said man let me get this man i didn't know you was under here oh they fighting they fighting get him teddy bear

1:15:50get him teddy bear

1:15:56Shannon Sharpe:I didn't know he was up with us. Yeah. Titus, lay down. Caleb said, hey, Ogunocho, are you taking Miami Bron, Cleveland Bron, Lakers Bron, and when he retires, will it impact the league? The league's going to go on. Did the league stop when Jordan stopped? Magic? Bird? The game always goes on. Will?

1:16:22Shannon Sharpe:Look, the league's going to be in great shape. LeBron has been a great ambassador. But it happens. Great players retire. Tom Brady retired. Peyton Manning retired. Joe Montana retired. Emmitt Smith. John Elway. Marino. J.J. Watt. Aaron Donald. Lawrence Taylor. Joe Green. He's fine. Which Cleveland Bron? First Cleveland Bron or second Cleveland Bron? many people believe Miami Brown was the apex of his powers

1:16:59Shannon Sharpe:he was and it's hard to say because if you go back and look at it he pretty much averaged the same thing you know somewhere between 25 and 27 points a night he could do it all um

1:17:18Shannon Sharpe:probably Miami Bron

1:17:24probably Miami

1:17:26Shannon Sharpe:Bron

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1:17:36Shannon Sharpe:Ocho CJ 1998 say what's up Ocho who's your favorite superhero and why also I've created my own comic is there a way I can send it to you superhero what's your favorite superhero I got a problem I don't watch Marvel or DC comics nah man I never unfortunately I'm not into it I only know who I know the name Thanos not because of your dog but because when that movie came out infinity something it it dominated yeah it dominated my timeline then i knew about the stones and i knew about thanos snapping his finger and something and that's pretty much it but i i don't yeah that's unfortunate yeah uh dm ash send it to ash

1:18:37Shannon Sharpe:Ash gets all my mail thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap we really appreciate you tuning in stopping by

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