Nightcap Hour 2: Unc & Ocho react to Fans yelling Pay Micah at Cowboys training Camp! | Nightcap

21:47Shannon Sharpe:Because clearly Y 'all, they've been telling people for the longest, we like Cooper Rush. We like Cooper Rush. Really? Y 'all like Cooper Rush, huh? Y 'all should have put him in. Play games if you want to. Y 'all should. If y 'all like Cooper, if you like Cooper Rush as much as you said you did, you would have never gave Dak 60 million. They just talking, though. You understand who the type of caliber quarterback that can carry your team or at least give you a chance to win. and Dak knew from the moment that Cooper Rush was a free agent and not one person bit Dak said y 'all stuck like Chuck but they know you know the eye in the sky don't lie all 31 other teams they get to see film too they get to see film too they do you listen as owners and as GM and managers you can say what you want to verbally but when you turn the film on if it don't match and it don't align with what you say about a player, they not going for that.

22:51Yeah.

22:52Shannon Sharpe:And every once in a while, Ocho, you can go into the draft and you'll find a, you'll get a Russell Wilson in the third round. You'll get a Dak Prescott in the fourth round. You're never going to get another Tom Brady in the sixth round. So stop looking. Stop looking. That was, that was the Hope Diamond. You found the Hope Diamond. Yeah. So stop looking. But you did. Sometimes you'll be able to find a really good quarterback that's not a first-round draft pick or not a high draft pick.

23:25Shannon Sharpe:But without that guy in today's game and the way the game is set up today, the way they've handicapped the defense and the way they've propped up the offense, without that guy, you ain't winning. You're not. You're just not. You can't play defense good enough. to overcome inadequate quarterback play. Correct. Not today's era. Absolutely not. Listen, it can work. It can work during our era. It can work during our era. You play defense and have a decent quarterback. Decent quarterback, nice running game. No disrespect. The Bears, when they played the Colts in the Super Bowl, the identity for that Bears team was what?

24:10Their defense.

24:11Shannon Sharpe:Yes. No disrespect to Rick Grossman. No disrespect. But he was Rex Grossman going against Peyton Manning. Come on, man. But that defense was unbelievable that year. And to think what happened, it started raining. But if you go back and look, the Colts almost ran for 200 yards. Joseph Adai, right? Joseph Adai? Yeah, it was Joseph Adai and the – what was the other guy's name? I forget his name, Ocho. but they had a two-headed monster.

24:48Shannon Sharpe:That was the difference in the game. But in today's game, the way they play today, the way the rules are set up today, you got to. You got to. You got to. And I don't know what Jerry's waiting on. Maybe he thinks the price is going to, you know, the bottom is going to drop out of this. it ain't you mess around and let him have 20 sacks what you're gonna do and now he's gonna hit you over the head for 50 million how about what if he just plays it out and goes somewhere else but see but see again that's where the nfl pa should have come in because you got two franchise tags damn so there yeah now you see there you go prime example of why i should be appointed the director of the NFLPA.

25:41That's one of the things I'm getting out. Franchise tag. Okay, that got to go. Guaranteed contracts. Let's implement guaranteed contracts. Let's talk about that.

25:53Shannon Sharpe:I want no franchise tag. I want health benefits. I want lifetime health benefits. Yeah, come on now. Come on now. You think, man, listen. I might joke and laugh, but when it comes to business and I put a suit and tie on, it's a whole different ballgame. Well, they definitely need somebody that shrewd, understands the aspect of it, knowing that what's headed down the track in the next couple of years, and then you're reading all this stuff about there might be some criminality involved with this. It's just not a good look for the NFLPA. now you kind of understand kind of what it's been lacking proper representation for lack of a better word Ocho it's just I hope because look you and I don't benefit from it anymore but I just want the players that's now and the ones that's going to be coming in I want them to get the maximum bang for the book.

27:02There's only one person that can do that for him. You hear me? There's only one person that would not only represent the players, but would represent the NFL PA. That's me. I'm going to put my name in the hat. Don't worry about that. You going to put your name in the hat? I'm going to put my name in the hat. Most definitely. Most definitely. I mean, who better? Who better? come on now I don't know

27:36Shannon Sharpe:you ain't been keeping up on things I do my homework now don't let a few laughs and little jokes throw you off your game I'm hip my eyes can see my ears can hear my nose I can smell yeah

28:00i want michael to get paid now he's gonna get paid i don't like the fact that they're allowing all these days to go by and he's not practicing and when he does get paid he's going from zero

28:10Shannon Sharpe:to a hundred i don't like that yeah hopefully he doesn't have any you know knock on wood he doesn't have any because you know what normally happens soft tissue yes because the body the body has to get used to the pushing the pulling the tugging the ripping the just oh man makes no sense it doesn't it doesn't because i mean if i'm mike i'm thinking like bro what do i have to do man i've done everything right all pro i've been to the pro bowl every year i've had double digit sacks every year i've done everything that you've asked me to be i've been a model citizen As far as we know, he hadn't run a foul, hadn't been any trouble off the field.

28:51Shannon Sharpe:I've done everything that you've asked. I've been a model citizen. I've been a great representation for this ball club. And now it's my turn. It is my turn. You know, Dak had his turn. Seedy had his turn. Trayvon Diggs had his turn. Steele had his turn. Now it's my turn. At some point in time, Jared, you got to be ahead of the curve. you always fall behind the curve and that's why you gotta pay so much you falling behind the curve you either Ocho you either ahead of the curve or you're in the curve because if you fall behind it you're behind it now you gotta pay extra catch up but this is a problem when someone doesn't see anything wrong with the way they do things there's no reason to change there's no reason to change if I did it to everybody else what makes Micah any different I did it to Dak I did it to CeeDee Lamb I did it to others in the past long before these players were even born I've been doing it my way for a very long time I'm not now for what?

29:58because winning is not my ultimate goal it's making a profit and continuing to remain the most profitable franchise

30:05Shannon Sharpe:yeah I mean but I mean look you let one of your greatest defensive players go for nothing DeMarcus where? because you thought it was done All he did was go together, help them win a Super Bowl, and play at an all-pro level until he was done. So clearly. He's doing something right, huh? Yeah. Yeah, I just, like I said, you know, it's tough. But, I mean, you miss calling the guy's name. I mean, he's just been there five years. That's all. He's doing that on purpose, huh? I don't think he's doing it on purpose. Man, Jerry, oh. He ain't that old not to know his star player's name on defense. Man, you know how the most people be calling.

30:52Shannon Sharpe:Man, my grandma ain't never called me by my real name.

30:59Shannon Sharpe:My granddaddy gave my brother the name Spanky because he couldn't say Sterling. So he gave me a name. He couldn't remember. Hey, Spanky. no I mean to like I said

31:15Shannon Sharpe:maybe it's I mean Michael Michael it's never been Michael it's been Michael everybody knows the man what if Michael is short for Michael and we didn't even know that I think his name is Michael okay okay I'm just I'm just I'm just and no now normally Mike is short for Mike not Micah but hey maybe it is you know what don't you know we got Google maybe yeah you might I mean he ain't mentioned I ain't never heard him see it all yeah we might want to fact check that because nobody knew Chad was short for Chadwick Chadwick

32:04Shannon Sharpe:Micah Aaron Parsons Hey, his middle name Aaron? Because what I just said, yes His mama named him Aaron I'm calling him Aaron from now on And he just turned 26 years of age Okay Okay

32:23So Yeah, I don't know what that's about

32:30Shannon Sharpe:Ocho The Buccaneers will not allow undrafted free agent D lineman Desmond Watson to practice until he gets in better shape and reaches an undisclosed weight goal. Watson weighed 464 pounds at his pro day earlier this offseason and has lost nearly 30 pounds since joining the team but he needs to lose more. That's a good thing especially in that Florida heat I understand it yeah I understand they're like you ain't fined you ain't finna kill over on us but but also remember he played right in Gainesville right down the street. He ain't played that far away, so I'm sure he's used to the heat, but I think him losing...

33:06He ain't used to run it like this. Oh, yeah. It's different. It's different. I think he or they understand that he will be able to perform better at his position at a smaller weight and not allow him to get out there and practice until he sees fit, until they see fit, him being ready. I have a question. If he's 400 pounds right now, how much do you think beat a real weight?

33:28Shannon Sharpe:No, he ain't 400 pounds. He's 434 right now oh he was forcing it when he started that he was almost 500 without thinking when he got to florida he weighed 464 at his pro day i think he's 434 currently right i can see them wanting him somewhere between 4 and 415. what do you think gilbert brown wore wade when he played probably 380. But this Watson is tall. Watson likes 6 '4", 6 '5", maybe 6 '6". He that tall? Yeah, I think so. Damn. He quick too, boy. His short air quickness, he real quick with it. Hey, boy, when he get out on that field and they got him and Vita Veya together in the 8 guys? Ocho, he's 6 '6".

34:23Shannon Sharpe:What? Yes. Yes, I told you he tall. Yeah, he a big. Yes. And so you, hey, the tall, that's why Gilbert, you know, Gilbert was probably 370, 380. Because Gilbert was probably 6 '2". My man, 6 '6". Do you know how much weight, the higher you stack something, the heavier you can get? Yeah. Damn, I didn't know he was that tall. He looked short when he was at Florida. He looked short because he's so big. 6-6? 6-6. Well, ain't nobody gonna be able to run the ball? Boy, Vita Vea and him and that goddamn A-gap? Mm-hmm. Man, you... Damn! Yeah, but I think just for general health purposes... Right, right, right, right.

35:13Shannon Sharpe:He gotta get down. Understandable. He gonna be a 4-0 if he can get out there, though. I know that. I hope so, Ojo. I'm pulling for young fella. I'm pulling for it. You know, to come in at almost 500 pounds, to get a scholarship, to get down to 464. Now he's probably down to 434. I mean, people don't understand, but that's still a big-ass man. 400 pounds? Let that sink in. He 400 pounds, and he ain't just sitting around just eating. Yes. And he's only going to get so small. He's 6 '6".

35:54Shannon Sharpe:and he's always going to have this problem, Ocho, because his body knows, hell, I carried 500, so I can do it again. So he's always going to have to fight that battle of his body going back to where it was comfortable. His body was comfortable there. And that's what I tell people. When people ask me, say, well, you know, man, I want to lose it. I say, let me ask you a question. What is the weight you can get to, and you don't have to kill yourself to stay at it? because if you got to kill yourself, the one, two days that you don't kill yourself, you're going right back. So where can you get to a weight that's comfortable for you that you don't have to kill yourself to maintain it?

36:36Shannon Sharpe:And in the process of doing that, stop saying diet because diet have start and stop dates. Say I'm embarking on a lifestyle change. You got to have discipline too, huh? there's one thing to say it and do it in season for six months but what's gonna happen in the next six months where you're not playing you got to be able to stick to that plan whatever that plan may be hard too that's hard especially when you've been well it yes he's been it's hard for me to see a scenario where desmond watson was not always a large kid large child large kid large team he's only 22 yeah so he's probably been large he's probably it's hard for me to see a scenario where he wasn't at least a 10 pound baby hell I was 10 pounds I was 12 that's crazy I was 10 pounds so it's hard and I'm not you know I think I'm normal but I'm not a normal guy I mean I'm 250 he outweighed me by almost 200 pounds so it's hard for me to believe that he weighed 6-7 pounds as a baby and now all of a sudden he did sign I mean look it's not always but a lot of times big babies be big kids be big adults but I'm rooting for him I sure hope he can pull this off he can get this down Ocho Chargers reportedly signed Rashawn Slater 4 years 114 million 92 million guaranteed making him the richest offensive lineman in NFL history he just passed Tristan Wirth who did a deal his 28.5 is 380 ,000 more than Tristan Wirth Panay Sewell was at 28 million Trent Williams at 27.55 and Christian Darasol is at 26 million wait a minute where's Lane Johnson I think Lane about 25 oh well we know who's gonna reset that market then they just did but see the thing is lane was like bro y 'all just get me done because because they always stay ahead of the curve with lane because remember they just did lane they just did my lotter they just did dixon dickerson dickerson um aj davante saquon uh uh uh uh uh uh jayla now you got that big dog coming down the Pike.

39:12Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. They got to save Carter. They got to save everything they can for that one. That's going to break the bank. That's going to break the bank.

39:19Shannon Sharpe:Just like, I don't know if you remember that. Welcome back, Carter. It was Carter, but welcome back, Carter. Because, hey, you got to welcome him back with open arms. Because in the next five years, he's going to be the dominant defensive. He could easily be the dominant defensive player in football. He has that kind of ability. He's going to year three, right? This year three? yes yes but he would get paid after this season with the way howie and he could yeah yes yes damn that's dope lane lane didn't didn't didn't they just do redo lane last year ash yes they just redid him last year making 25 okay okay okay okay um but he that boy lane hey well, hey, I don't need to be the highest paid.

40:10Shannon Sharpe:Just keep me up there somewhere. Now, we got money to go around. We can keep this team together. And I can continue to win because, man, it's easy to go out there and stay healthy and fight when I know, hey, every week we got a chance to win this thing. But boy, these salaries are going crazy. I mean, an offensive lineman making$28 million, damn near $30 million? That got to be the blind side. Please said he's a left tackle. Yes, he left. I was going to say. Well, that's the, listen. Well, Pene, Sewell and Lane are right. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. And Slater, worse. They moved Tristan to the left side because he started out as a right tackle.

40:51Shannon Sharpe:Obviously, that silverback, Trent Williams, he'd been, hey, 10 Pro Bowls. He'd been that boy for a minute. I still, look, I love all these guys. I love them all. but healthy he the best in the business Trent yes sir yes sir even at his age absolutely when he everybody at their absolute best Trent that boy he him and I love Lane Johnson because Lane ain't nothing to play with all these guys I mean that's why they make the money they make Tristan Wurst A Panay Sewell A all these guys I think Darren Shaw was injured last year. All these guys are good, but at his best, he need to be played with.

41:40Shannon Sharpe:Jim Harbaugh says Justin Herbert's biggest weakness is offensive teammates must get to his level. I see him at the level that's the highest level of the quarterback. First five seasons, nobody's thrown for more yards in NFL history. This is the truth. Justin Herbert's biggest weakness is all of those that are counting on offense coaches offensive line playmakers receivers running back to get to his level oh yeah do you like him saying that yeah it's a good thing it's a good thing listen the the players need to hear that when you got a quarterback playing at that kind of level we need everybody else to show up we need everybody else to show up and he's really talking about the skill position honestly that's what he's calling out i want one person there's one person to me no he's a He talking to coaches, offensive line, playmakers, receivers, running back.

42:31Shannon Sharpe:He talking to everybody on the offensive side. Coaches, they ain't on the field. But the people, the schemes and the X's and O's, that's one thing. But the people that's on that field and that green ground between them lines, they got everything. One person that I highly believe that I love to death and I'm hoping this is his year and I need him to show up and show out, and that's Quentin Johnson. I need you to show up and show out and be the receiver that I know you can be so I can keep talking my shit

43:05Shannon Sharpe:he had a couple of drops I think he's been plagued with drops listen, every team has one, the Bengals have Jamar Chase and T. Higgins every team has one that player that you can count on, I need Quentin Johnson to be that guy for Justin Herbert whatever he needs I need him to be that guy

43:31Shannon Sharpe:I'm trying to think if I ever heard a coach say that I've never heard a coach say that maybe not publicly but it's a good thing Harbaugh's not one of those that's going to shy away from what he wants to say and what he truly believes I truly believe I'm not saying this in the meeting room I'm saying it publicly so you all know I need you to show up to do your job I need all of you to be held accountable because I'm looking at the numbers that my quarterback is putting up, but it's not. But a lot of some of those numbers that he's putting up because he's throwing interceptions early and he's behind in the game.

44:06Shannon Sharpe:Having to catch back up. Yeah. All yards aren't created equal. That's a good one. Because sometimes we look at the stat sheets and say, oh, he played good. Well, you do realize the only reason he was, bro, you can't drown me and then bring me back to shore and talk about, man, hey, and I'm supposed to thank you for saving my life. Bro, it was you that capsized the boat. Right. You put us in this spot. I think Justin Herbert is a really good quarterback. Sometimes I think he gets, you know, because of the physical traits, the abilities that he has. They see that big-time arm mocho. They see he can make every throw in the field, and you fall in love with that.

44:52Shannon Sharpe:and it's easy, and it's easy. I can see why they fall in love with it, but it's easy for you to fall in love with winning because we see a lot of, I see a lot of guys have ability that can throw the ball 80 yards.

45:12Shannon Sharpe:Can you make plays when you absolutely have to have them? Go back and look at the great ones. Look at Tom. What could Tom do? when he needed to make a play, when he needed to make a throw, Tom did it. Wait, you heard what you just said? You said Tom did it. Yes. When he needed to make that throw, when he needed to make those plays, the players caught him. When Herbert has to make those plays, you got it. Lad McConkie has showed up. Yeah. I need two more than players on that offense to show up every time consistently. Right. My brother. Because I think, who did they play? Didn't they play Houston?

45:54They played Houston in the playoffs. Yeah. Who's the number two over there? You know the number two receiver? Who's the number two receiver in the tight end? Didn't Palmer. I think Palmer, he ended up going, didn't he end up going to Buffalo? Palmer was nice, yeah. I think Palmer. And then they had Johnson. You know, Quentin Johnson been there. I'm trying to think who the number two is now, though. I guess it'll be Quentin Johnson. No, Q was the number one. so what's Ladd McConkie

46:21Shannon Sharpe:because he's in the slot that don't make well Armand Ross St. Brown is in the slot he number one CD in the slot he number one okay I see you okay and the one thing Ladd McConkie's been consistent Ocho set your clock by him set your clock by him he nasty with him look, the thing about Harbaugh, he's old school. He got that coach. He played for Coach Jim Berkley. He played for Mike Dicker. And like my granny used to say, boy, they tell you like a TISD is. He is. Hey, Coach Jim Berkley wasn't sugarcoating it, and Mike Dicker damn sure wasn't sugarcoating it. So Harbaugh, that's where he played under.

47:14Shannon Sharpe:He got Coach tootlage under. Okay, this is what you're going to get. He says, hey, this guy's playing at this level. I need everybody that's playing here and here to get to here. Matter of fact, you know what that offense needs to look like? Goddamn Herbert, Mike Williams, and Keenan Allen. Yep. I agree. I definitely agree with that. When you're moving like I do, trips don't always come together weeks in advance. Sometimes production shoots, interviews, or something I've got to travel for on a short notice. like the time when I had the last minute trip to Denver and everything came together fast.

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50:23Shannon Sharpe:Put ChatGPT to work on your most ambitious ideas and projects. Get started at ChatGPT.com by selecting work mode. Available on Plus and Pro Plans. Through four practices, Travis Hunter has been on the field in 11-on-11 and 7-on-7 for 83 snaps. He spent the first two practices exclusively on offense, 36 snaps, and played exclusively on defense the last two, 47 snaps. Earlier today, he broke up three passes in 21 snaps and 11-on-11, including the final play of practice in the red zone. Have we ever seen a player like this? No. we've never seen a player like this are there other players if given the opportunity could have done this maybe maybe not but if they could they would have done it if they would have done it I mean we've seen we've seen we've seen Chan Bailey we've seen Charles Woodson but not to this magnitude you know who played at a high level on both sides of the ball and people don't forget about it Roy Green Roy Green Roy Green.

51:32Shannon Sharpe:Google it. That before my time? Yeah. I remember Roy Green. He could play. What position? He ended up going. He was a DB and a wide receiver. They said, nah, hey, don't worry about the wide receiver. Go on over here to this side. He ended up going to the Pro Bowl. Roy Green. Cardinals. Look him up, Ocho. Let me see. Let me see. Oh, Roy Green could play. Yes, Lord. Roy Green could play. I ain't never heard of him. when you google him you'll hear him damn he was like that

52:17god damn his sleeve is way down by his elbow he wore 81 yup oh he got a nice little jerry curl

52:39Okay

52:44Shannon Sharpe:Return punts, kickoffs Oh, he did it all Roy Green, where I receive a Phoenix Phoenix Cardinals

53:02you learned something new huh

53:09that's cool he played he was good he was really he was really really good

53:15Shannon Sharpe:yeah but it's amazing um

53:23Shannon Sharpe:I'm anxious to see him I'm anxious to see him out there I'm excited I'm going to do what Jacksonville play week one take me a little trip right on down to Jacksonville man

53:38Shannon Sharpe:well you got to deal with Nico Collins and then you got Stingley

53:45Shannon Sharpe:that's when they play week one no I'm just saying Tennessee is in that division. You got Calvin Ridley and then you got Ligarius Sneed.

54:00Shannon Sharpe:I don't know the DBs and Indy, but you know, you got Pittman and you got Peer. You got your hand full now. And that's just in the division. They're home week one. Who they play? So, McMillan, Panthers. Oh, the Panthers? Hey, listen, I've been high on the Panthers. I've been high on the Panthers, and I'm only high on the Panthers because it's a receiving goal. Xavier Leggett, Jimmy Horn, T. McMillan, Hunter Winfrow, Adam Thielen. Yeah, Hunter Winfrow was looking good in practice. I've been seeing so many clips in practice. He'd be looking good. I call him put you in a blender he always been able to put people in a blender you put them in the right position to make those plays that's what he does yeah he got sick though he got sick is that what it was yeah they nice and I said it here first on nightcap I'm telling you when the Panthers transitioned to being a winning team this year and to be the surprise team in the NFL I said it first keep pounding bitch yeah and you gotta understand Ocho sometimes he ain't gonna be getting Travis ain't gonna be getting number one because they got Brian Thomas Jr.

55:19Shannon Sharpe:over there yeah you gotta worry about him

55:24oh well listen matter of fact when you think about it when they play the Texans since the Texans no that's not their division yeah it is it is their division Texans Tennessee and Indy okay let's say when he's that receiver. You got to deal with Stingley, and if you're not on Stingley's side, then you got to deal with motherfucking Lassiter. Ain't no slouch either. Based on what he did, based on his resume from last year. Man, talk about having your hands full. You're okay.

55:55Shannon Sharpe:Got your hands full. He's going to have to be mentally locked in. Completely. For literally 100 plays a game if he's trying to do this. Because any slip up mentally. You're done. It's a game of inches. Yep. Todd Munkin said the Ravens offense has been committing false starts in training camp because they're stressed. Various cadences. It's real easy to get frustrated, which I do. I'm the king of overreacting. But if you do that, then you'll, you'll just snap the ball on one every time. And that doesn't help you either. So we're in a sweet spot. Now it's time to practice that. We're going to fight that like heck to be good at it.

56:35Shannon Sharpe:we can't be elite at cadence if other teams can be uh we can be then we should be if other teams can be we can be so in other words hey we got to use that hard count payton hard count elway all the really good ones were good at that hard count i mean you let pay you let them defensive guys get a get a get a get a get a job yeah yeah it'd be good but also sometimes you don't have to complicate things. Some football is played when it's played in its purest form. It's when it's simple. When it's nice and simple. What you have offensively, you don't even have to add the tricks. The tricks of the trade of having to use the hard count, it can be advantageous for you offensively, but you're so good on offense, you don't even have to do it.

57:22Shannon Sharpe:No, you're not. You don't have to complicate it. You're not that good. Go on one and let them guys time it. Them guys too good. Boy, oh, Ocho, UCIT, sometimes they already, man, he off-size. No, he ain't. When you say, huh, he gone. That was me, Ocho. I was, hey, hey. I get it. Hey, Ocho, we tried it because John was really good at the hard cut. But he get me sometimes. Like, damn. He's like, T, what the hell? You in the huddle. I'm like, I forgot. Yeah. I did, Ocho. I be trying to get out. Hey, it must be a pass. Man, damn, where you going in a hurry? Right. I'm going to the end zone. That's where I was going.

58:09Shannon Sharpe:But I get it. And that's what practice is about, Ochoa. Sometimes, people, you get frustrated in practice when things, you know, you snap, count, or you drop. But that's what the hell is practice. That's what it's for. If it's supposed to be perfect. They on day three. What day they on? They on day three, four, something like that? They just had pads on. I think the first day of pads was yesterday. or maybe the day before yesterday. I mean, so what are we supposed to do? Are we supposed to come out here and be perfect? That's the whole thing. The whole thing is like, I'm practicing so I can get it right.

58:43Shannon Sharpe:And it's tough. Because everybody, especially when you're tired. Man, Ocho. Listen, fatigue makes a fool of us all. Man. I ain't finna hold you, Ocho. I promise you, ain't no tight end jumping off sides more than me. I might not have a whole lot of records left, but jumping off sides is what I think I'm going to be bad, please. I'll be gone. Gone. Oh, man, that's funny, man. And I may or may not have, you know, get me a couple of extra yards. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Don't jump off sides. Woo-woo. Give me a couple of extra. No. But man, I be trying to get out. I ain't going to lie.

59:29Shannon Sharpe:Hey, I'm trying to jump off that rock because I'm thinking, I'm trying to be Usain Bolt out the gate. But I get Todd Mung and say, bro, we got to switch this thing up because you let people lock in. Ocho, you let them lock in on that cadence. Them guys are really – them T.J. Watts and Boses and Will Anderson Jr. The Micah Parsons, them guys are really good. Let them time it up if you want to. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. Steph Curry on the shot that changed his life. It's the shot against Gonzaga. I really felt like that was the difference maker. Not to say I wouldn't have been able to figure it out had we lost, but that was a big moment.

1:00:14Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, what was the play that changed your life? Dude, the play that changed my life, especially from a receiver standpoint, was dropping the ball. They wasn't even catching the ball. I'll never forget. Rest in peace. Oliver Gibson. We were playing the Indianapolis Colts. I think it might have been my rookie year. Maybe my second year. But to keep a drive going, we went for it on fourth down. To keep a drive going, to go down and maybe tie the game or actually win the game, I dropped the goddamn slam on fourth down. And here I am crying. Oliver Gibson came up to me, grabbed me by my shirt. This is a picture of it, too.

1:00:50I posted it on Twitter when he passed away. Grabbed me up by my shirt. Man, if you don't stop that crime, because you're going to have another opportunity to win us a game. Changed everything. But I got on that jug machine and just, I was different after that, from that point. I hadn't even become Chad Johnson yet. I was a nobody at that point. After dropping that game and realized, I just cost us a game. Ross is a game and I always told myself from that point on I'll either be one of the reasons why we're in a game or we win games from that point on and that's exactly what happened

1:01:32Shannon Sharpe:the same thing happened to me in 1999 I dropped a touchdown that would have given us home field advantage throughout the playoffs damn I still think about that play Ojo I made it so sweet had me an O I was in tight Ocho in tight I motioned out linebacker with me like niggas say I just ate it on him Ocho I'm thinking today I'm already thinking oh I'm gonna do this I'm gonna do that it went right through your hands right through them right through them Ocho that's the worst feeling boy dropping the ball in the South End zone, man. I'll never forget. And I came to the sideline, students will say, hey, Sharp, you'll get it back.

1:02:25Shannon Sharpe:You'll get it back. I'm like, you know the opportunity ain't gonna come. Because it wasn't like I was the number one receiver. They're gonna be feeding me balls. Right, right. Balls. They won't be feeding me. They ain't throwing me no balls like that. Balls. Okay. Okay. They wasn't gonna be throwing me football. They wasn't feeding me footballs like that. there you go man

1:02:52Shannon Sharpe:so I knew that opportunity wasn't going to come back that day it might come back at a later date in time but it wasn't coming back that day and I remember Ocho and so I dropped that play and then at Wednesday's practice man I was catching I was catching everything I mean I was taking stuff off my shoe tops I was making stuff one-handed. And then, I mean, he's like, I sure wish you'd have caught that one on Sunday like this.

1:03:29Sometimes, say, listen, sometimes you relax at the wrong times. Yep. Anytime I drop the ball, it's because I relax.

1:03:39Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, you know what I did? I didn't extend. I did this. like the ball yeah damn and so the ball just like

1:03:53Shannon Sharpe:damn boy that hurt boy that hurt that hurt that hurt I remember going home crying I called my brother he said man what's wrong I said man you went until you got home I was crying in the middle of the field I couldn't let him see me cry because somebody might have said somebody had to swing on somebody on the field Oh, you got jokes? Don't. Listen, you know. Man, I was in that car crying like, man. As a matter of fact, Oja had a four-door blazer. I'll never forget, had a four-door blazer.

1:04:27Boy. Damn. You know me, boy. I let them tears fly, boy. I don't care where I'm at. Boy, that thing hurt.

1:04:39Shannon Sharpe:That hurt. and I agree with Steph and he's like I'm not saying that I couldn't have figured it out at a later date and time but I believe that was the moment that he's like hold on we Davidson that's Gonzaga and they you know they always in the playoffs they always wanted to you know and when he took them down look I had never seen anybody shoot the ball like that not from that kind of distance not just pull up like that he was you know like he's six two like he's the average he's not six five six four six five and he's just letting it go i mean he doesn't focus his shorts like three sides like if they made for his dad you know i'm saying that he's just letting it fly

1:05:32damn he definitely left his mark man davison i wonder with so many three-point shooters that have come along what separated steph and made him as good as he is what made him so great i i'm i'm just they gave him the green light to do it you see prior to steph uh only a handful

1:05:55Shannon Sharpe:think about it ocho everybody's shooting threes now yeah that was a how many times that's a bad steph there's no shot that steph takes that people actually believe is a bad shot right People were shooting some of the shots that Steph shoot routinely into the first quarter, into the half, into the shot clock. Steph would shoot that shot with 15, 16 seconds on the shot clock. But somebody had to give him the confidence saying that's okay. Mark Jackson was that guy. Now, he shot that in college, but come to the NBA. Guys weren't shooting no shots like Steph. I mean, Reggie was a catch and shoot. Ray was a little, was catch and shoot, but he could.

1:06:41Steph can dance and launch it from the timeline.

1:06:46Shannon Sharpe:You literally have to pick Steph up at half court or he'll let it go. And you think because with his ability to be able to create separation, create his own shot, it makes it that much more easier for him? Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. because and plus the thing is if you hug up on it because he can have he can put it on the floor and get by you yeah he can get all the way to the rim so now and then he runs constantly he doesn't get tired because the first thing if you get tired your shot goes you short he's in he's probably the best conditioned athlete because nobody's running as much Oh, he run a lot.

1:07:26He run a lot.

1:07:30Shannon Sharpe:And he just let it fly. That'd be confusing. When I think about basketball and you know you're playing the Warriors and as much as Steph run, like me, you know how when you play defense and the DB say, listen, they in a bunch, we're going to ban you. If you come in your air, you just pick him up. And I forget, man, just zone. So you don't got to run all over the place after you. Okay. And guess what happens? Now when they back pick that zone, guess what? Steph wide open. They're going to run you off so many screens. Oh, yeah, yeah. That sucks. That sucks. And the thing is, and when you miss a shot, you would think because they're such a small team.

1:08:09Shannon Sharpe:They are small, yeah. That they're one of the better rebounding teams. So when they get these long rebounds off the carom, Steph automatically goes to reset. So now you play a zone, okay? he go reset to one of those corners he'll get it and he'll come all the way across in the corner and then he'll come up that's crazy but giving you confidence like to shoot it son no worries we're not gonna take you out shoot the ball hey nobody else got the green head like he does huh oh they like our guys got it now but he made it okay Now you see everybody shooting threes. Don't show them shooting damn 70 a game between the two teams.

1:08:56Shannon Sharpe:They are not as efficient as he is. No, but if you think about it, at this point in time, Buddy Hill is ahead of where Steph Curry was with threes made. Anthony Edwards, yes, because nobody was shooting him. They're shooting him now. Jason Tatum, look how many threes he shoots a game. Look how many Ant-Man shoots a game. Buddy healed. Even though Buddy wasn't a star, Buddy was coming and letting the three go. Everybody letting the three go now. It's the three. And everybody think they're Steph Curry. You watching the AAU kids, every A's group, man, they shooting from three. They throwing the ball.

1:09:38Shannon Sharpe:They can't shoot it because they're so small. They throwing it.

1:09:45Shannon Sharpe:All right, Ocho, it's time for our final segment of the evening. it's time for Q and A.

1:10:01You may go ahead and

1:10:03Shannon Sharpe:close that door.

1:10:12Shannon Sharpe:TayTay to Waveay was good. But, Uncle Nocho, who has the most approved this season? All love, hope the fam is doing good. Who has the most approved this season? Take your pick. Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Lamar.

1:10:39Shannon Sharpe:Make a case for Dak Prescott coming off an injury plague season. Who do you think has the most approval, Ocho, this season? This season? Oh, that's a good question. You would think it would be all the teams that are, I call it, I call it pressure situations that have to get it done. Lamar Jackson, your Josh Allen, your Joe Burroughs, obviously Aaron Rodgers, all the lights are really going to be on him on what he's going to do.

1:11:10Let me see. There's no pressure on C.J. Stroud, no pressure on Jaden Daniels, no pressure on Jordan Love. Maybe golf. Maybe golf might have a little bit of that pressure as well. To find and deliver as well as they've been doing. They've been going in the right direction. What about Tua? You think Tua has something to prove as well? Yeah, you got to prove he can stay healthy. Yeah, Tua might be in that competition as well. That's about it. Everyone else is kind of safe.

1:11:39Shannon Sharpe:Aaron Jones. Hey, Nightcap. Much love. Oh, you know, last year, Eagles would have whooped your Ravens. We were going great on both sides of the ball. Bro, y 'all ain't beating nothing. Yeah, what rules are we playing under? Are y 'all going to let us knock the hell out y 'all? Nah, let's play the rules back then, 2000. Ain't no way. No way. Hey, Saquon might have had, what, maybe 20, 30 yards, if that? Who going to catch the ball over the middle? I don't know if you'll go back and look at that paper and how many people we knocked they knocked out of the game I don't think quarterbacks wide receivers out you got to realize there was no defenseless receiver rules back then and there was none of that oh you couldn't hit the you couldn't hit the quarterback this place or that place no bro I like our chances Aaron Sean the wise one said you're wrong Shannon he said that they're constantly get put in favor position where the best corner isn't always guarding them unlike A.J.

1:12:47Shannon Sharpe:Brown?

1:12:53Wait, the best corner is guarding everybody we named in that conversation, especially the top five. It's always the best corner.

1:13:00Shannon Sharpe:Yes. Most of these corners, I mean, the really good ones travel. And a lot of these teams don't have a comparable with Devontae. So if Devontae start cooking, well, guess what? Guess what the number one corner gonna go? To Devontae. And then AJ start cooking the number two. No, I'm not wrong, bro. These are not... You can dress it up however you want to. Chase, Jetta, and Reek aren't scheme receivers. I don't believe they're scheme receivers. You don't become the triple crown. You don't put up the numbers that they putting up being schemed. Because that was the case everybody would do it, huh?

1:13:46Yes! That was the case? Yes! Yeah.

1:13:53Shannon Sharpe:Brock Sloan, the Panthers have the most diverse wide receiver ever. They have Leggett, McMillan, Renfro, Thielen, Jimmy Horn, plus Jalen Coker. Listen, they have the right balance of veterans, rookies, and those that are on the cusp of arriving um not very many people that are proven yet but i'm telling you they could be special they could be special all they have to do just consistency week in and week out and just be there for bryce i'm telling you they're gonna shock all you motherfuckers almost cursed again they're gonna shock all you people who doubt them and i'm very very very high on that panthers receiving core just week to week keep pounding and be consistent that's it if jimmy horn can take what he's doing in training camp pre-season uh otas and translate that if legged can take that next step be that big physical receiver consistent receiver that they drafted him to be Renfro is tremendous in the slot I like feeling he's consistent McMillan I agree I like that Ocho I like that pick I can't say that you're wrong

1:15:15Shannon Sharpe:Kristen Noriega Pittsburgh Steelers Nation here big shout out to Ocho my question is should Washington go back to the previous name with their logo back why you think they're gonna win more i mean well trump uh 45 45 said if they don't go back he's gonna withhold something in pertaining to building of a new stadium something like that right now we'll just wait till he leave office and he build it in but he also said that presidents should stay out of the naming of teams oh okay but at the time he wasn't the president so normally when you hear him talk things aren't applicable to him okay i got you now when it can become applicable to him they should intervene they should weigh in we shouldn't be in we uh as when he wasn't president we shouldn't be intervening in wars fighting overseas now that he's in president we're intervening so it seems to me when it's not applicable to him don't do it when it's applicable to him do it that's my thoughts on that really says if you guys have switched where would you right uh you got drafted in teams do you do your guys think you would have had the same careers better worse the same.

1:16:43Shannon Sharpe:No. I went to the right situation. I went to Denver. They were one of the two or three teams that had the H-back position. I had a quarterback that believed in me, that was patient with me, saw the ability, but knew I needed time to grow into the position. And he had patience. Everybody wasn't going to have patience with me like that. So no, my career would not have been the same had I gone to Cincinnati, had I gone somewhere else. I needed to go to Denver. A coach that believed in me, that put me in the offense, that The call plays for me. John believed in me, gave me time to develop. No, I am not the player.

1:17:16Shannon Sharpe:I'm not the Pro Bowl. I'm not the All-Pro. I'm not the Hall of Fame player if I go somewhere else. I have a question. That is my belief. Now, your situation was different from mine. When I went to Cincinnati, Cincinnati was the laughingstock of the NFL at that time, if you remember.

1:17:33Consecutive losing seasons. Yeah, y 'all were terrible. Okay, you ain't had to say all that. Oh, my bad, my bad. It was bad. So hypothetically speaking, if I go to a better situation, I still would have been the same player. What if they don't let you behave in the matter that you behave in? I was just having fun. But everybody ain't going to let you have fun. If I'm putting up the numbers I'm putting up. Yes, I am.

1:18:00Shannon Sharpe:Okay. Okay. Well, why'd you do that in New England? Oh, because that's a no-go. Everybody ain't going to let you do that. That's West one team. But that's what I'm What if you go to that team You go to the Bears They're not going to let you do that Them old school coaches back then Check this out Boy if I was in Chicago Why would I turn a soldier field upside down You hear me Could you imagine me as a bear in my prime Yeah I can imagine you and Coach Dicker Butting heads Listen Dicker would have loved me Dicker and McMahon Butting heads They did man was flashy though he was flashy man man was flashy really you don't hey what about you flashy exactly oh boy hey i would sometimes i would get a heart attack celebrating i would be doing all kind of crazy stuff sometimes you just have to go to the right situation at the right time right situation right time quentin mays do you own do you check on your uh player cards to see the value no i do not oh you check on the value of players card you know can i buy no memorabilia man no i don't kepper norwood jr said oh i got some laportier for my uncle whose birthday is on Friday.

1:19:29Shannon Sharpe:Appreciate that Kemper. Now Kemper, don't you drink at all before the man's birthday. So you got it for him? I mean, you gonna give him the entire bottle or you gonna give him half the bottle? I just need to know this. Hopefully, you don't you don't yeah, give him a shot. Hey, I'm gonna have this shot for you for your birthday. You know, you supposed to get the shot and he supposed to get the rest. Thank you guys Thanks for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y 'all know who I am. I'm your favorite unk, Shannon Sharp, my partner, co-host, Liberty City's own, bingo ring of fame honoree, pro bowler, all pro.

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1:21:39Shannon Sharpe:Bubba, congratulations to the Jordan-Danny Hamlin team. Congratulations, man. Well-deserved. We'll see you back here tomorrow night, the same time. I'm Unk. He's Ocho. We are out. What? Before y 'all go, make sure you catch your boy tomorrow on Get Up and First Take, and that's pretty much it.

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