Nightcap Hour 2: Unc & Ocho react to Shedeur Not Buying it + E.D. SPILLING THE TEA on Shedeur

22 Aug 2025 · 54 min · 22 chapters

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In short

Unc & Ocho react to Shedeur Sanders dismissing criticism and discuss claims that the NFL/owners suppress quarterback salaries and may have pressured teams not to draft Shedeur; they also debate quarterback “distraction” concerns, plus NFL news (Lamar Jackson practice, recent trades) and a lottery-marriage legal story.

Guests (on this episode)

Jalen Johnson (Chicago Bears cornerback) is thanked as a special guest; the main hosts are Shannon Sharpe (“Unc”) and Chad Ochocinco Johnson (“Ocho”).

Guest backgrounds

Jalen Johnson is an NFL cornerback for the Chicago Bears.

Key claims

Shedeur says he doesn’t care about comments and will focus on earning opportunities; Eric Dickerson is cited saying the NFL told teams “do not draft him” and that the Browns were forced to take Shedeur at pick 144; hosts argue owners collude to keep player salaries down and that media attention can affect backup QB roles.

Notable examples

Tim Tebow comparison (media attention as a distraction); Michael Sam comparison; Mel Kiper reacting during the draft; Browns drafting Shedeur despite calls not to; lottery concealment case where a woman reportedly had to give 100% of winnings to her ex.

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Episode Discussion

0:00 to 14:01
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Quarterback Skills and Roles

14:01 to 16:44

Discussion on the essential skills required for different football positions.

“You say if he can get 15 sacks, his boyfriend can be a cheerleader?”

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16:44 to 17:25

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17:25 to 18:01

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18:01 to 18:57

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18:57 to 19:33

Promotional segment about the upcoming Big 3 playoffs.

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Shadour Sanders' NFL Prospects

19:33 to 23:29

Analysis of Shadour Sanders' situation in the NFL and comparisons to Tim Tebow.

“The issue that I remember Tim had, and the GM told me this, is that if you're a backup quarterback, they don't want all this media attention on that one player.”

Quarterback Decisions and Team Dynamics

23:29 to 28:00

Discussion on team dynamics and decisions surrounding quarterbacks in the NFL.

“Colts quarterback Cam, Colts quarterback coach Cam Turner was asked if the staff failed Richardson.”

Quarterback Decisions and Draft Implications

28:00 to 33:01

The hosts discuss the dynamics of quarterback choices and draft strategies for the upcoming NFL season.

“And if they had to go between the two quarterbacks, which one of these quarterbacks do I trust?”

Belichick's Coaching Philosophy and Legacy

33:01 to 36:56

A conversation about Coach Belichick's coaching style in the pros versus college, and his impact on players.

“Hey, maybe he needs to go someplace else.”
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Expectations for Belichick at UNC

36:56 to 39:58

Analyzing the expectations placed on Coach Belichick as he transitions to coaching in college football.

“Honestly, I just hope one day they can sit down and have a conversation.”

Expectations for Belichick at UNC

41:13 to 41:41

Analyzing the expectations placed on Coach Belichick as he transitions to coaching in college football.

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Expectations for Belichick at UNC

42:01 to 42:35

Analyzing the expectations placed on Coach Belichick as he transitions to coaching in college football.

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Lamar Jackson's Injury Update

43:11 to 44:48

Discuss the latest on Lamar Jackson's injury and its implications for the Ravens.

“Lamar Jackson avoided serious injury after getting his foot stepped on during Wednesday's practice, according to John Harbaugh.”

NFL Trade Updates and Impacts

44:48 to 47:12

Analyze recent NFL trades and their potential impacts on teams and players.

“But just the fact that football season is here, man.”

Lottery Winnings and Legal Consequences

47:12 to 48:26

Explore a woman's legal battle over lottery winnings and the consequences of deception.

“Ocho, a woman loses 1.3 million lottery winnings after hiding it from her ex-husband.”

Discussing the Power of Money

48:26 to 52:20

Engage in a conversation about the effects of money on relationships and personal decisions.

“I think he won like 200 and something million.”

Q&A Segment with Fans

52:20 to 56:00

Respond to fan questions, including predictions for rookie performances in the NFL.

“Ocho, you told me I need to live my life.”

Analyzing Jackson Dart's Potential

56:00 to 57:48

Discussion on Jackson Dart's performance and potential starting opportunities.

“OG underscore Thanos, what's up, Uncle Ocho?”

Viewer Engagement and Special Requests

57:48 to 59:00

Hosts engage with viewers and encourage a fan to experience a soccer game in London.

“I'll say under man listen God is on Russell Wilson's side Jackson Darty in the field this year Paul the truth believer said, Ocho, Shadour said, child, please.”

Cultural References and Personal Insights

59:00 to 1:00:21

Casual conversation about personal experiences and cultural references, including anime.

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2:07Shannon Sharpe:Shadour responded to Dylan Gabriel's comments for the first time today. Ocho, let's take a listen to what Shadour had to say. Yeah. Honestly, I don't even think about nothing. I don't think about anything. If it's not words or anything, you know, at this point, it can't do anything to me. You know, I know, you know, that God put the ability and the power within me to not even think about nobody else's comments, not care. It is what it is. I spoke with him. He said, nah, bro, that wasn't. He said, that wasn't. He told me on the plane. He came up. He was like, nah, bro, that wasn't at you. I see how they're trying to spin.

2:40I'm like, oh, all right. I'm not tripping, regardless of whatever it was. Because I don't, nobody's words or anything affects me, you know? So, yeah. Did I believe him? I mean, I feel like you're trying to start stuff now. I feel like you're trying to start stuff. I mean, he's doing his job. He's supposed to. Do I feel like he did? I don't know. And that's not on me to sit here and be like, oh, he did, he didn't. That's not going to change my life in any way.

3:13Shannon Sharpe:when they ask you did you believe it he could say yeah i believe it what do you say he's there ain't nothing for me to believe it he know what it was you can't hey you know what it was you know he don't care nothing about that he don't care hey you just want to play ball baby that's it i want my opportunity i want my chance to shine all the outside noise all the distractions I ain't paying none of that no mind he's a distraction he started this

3:46Shannon Sharpe:he started it Ocho

3:51look

3:52Shannon Sharpe:Shadour at this point says look what someone says is not going to impact doesn't make me better doesn't make me worse what somebody has to say I still have to go out there and do my job and when given the opportunity that's exactly what I'll do. Mm-hmm. Because... He's been going through this for a minute, huh? Yeah. This isn't the first time somebody has something to say about him. They've been digging at him for a long time. He's been prepared for this. He's been prepared. Yeah, but normally the people that's taking shots at me ain't on my team. That'd be like the team. We a family here. now somebody else taking shots okay we deal with that we we hey we come together yeah oh you'll let that go but we can't be we can't be throwing rocks inside our own house and break out a window excuse me but it's the nfl we ain't here to make friends i'm here i'm here to take your job i got i got kids i got miles the baby need milk child support dude yeah but it's mercedes benz I got to pay the bill.

5:02I got mortgage. I ain't here to be your friend. I'm not supposed to like you. We here to compete. What are we talking about? Okay. Man, please. I don't see you. I got mouths to feed. Interesting.

5:23Shannon Sharpe:I wonder if that was the situation. and they to ask you something about something like, look, hey, I don't care if the guy came from the same team I came from. Hey, we went to college together. I don't care enough about that. I'm here to compete.

5:40Hmm.

5:44They should have asked. I would have answered it the right way. I would have answered it the right way.

5:54Shannon Sharpe:I think I think

5:59Shannon Sharpe:Shadour's been coached very very well but he did a lot of laughing in that to keep from saying what he really felt and how he really felt you notice that don't you? He's laughed pretty much the whole interview He's savvy he's savvy in front of that camera he's been doing it for so long oh yeah for sure he's been doing it for a minute

6:21um it's just tough like at the end of the day look get my opportunities what he or somebody

6:28Shannon Sharpe:says about me doesn't change my it doesn't make me play better it doesn't make me play worse right that's his opinion he said what he said I just have to do what I have to do once I get up when I get my opportunity I go make plays that's it it's really that simple Ocho I mean there ain't There's not a whole lot of other ways around it. There's no sense in me saying, oh, this, that, whatever. At the end of the day, this is what it's about, and I'm going to go do my job. But it gets even more interesting. According to Pro Football Hall of Famer Eric Dickerson, the NFL told teams not to draft Shadour.

7:07Shannon Sharpe:The NFL told teams don't draft him. We're going to make an example out of him. Somebody called a Browns and said, don't do that. don't draft him. Or it says, don't not draft him, right? Because he said, don't draft him. But the Browns ended up taking him. Don't do him like that.

7:33Shannon Sharpe:But the Browns took him. Okay. Wow. Somebody called the Browns and said, don't do that. Don't draft him. Now, we have a case study. I mean, the judge once said that he believed that they were in collusion. There's a text message chain, email, Jeff Pash and Roger Goodell. They've gotten better now. Well, basically, it looks like they are saying, hey, we got to keep these salaries down. They're getting out of control. So this is not out of the realm of possibility. But I get that. Ocho, I get that. Right. We want to suppress the salaries for as long as we can to keep them from skyrocketing, even though the value of teams are increasing exponentially.

8:21Shannon Sharpe:The revenue is increasing exponentially. But revenue is increasing, but we want to keep wages low. It's kind of like what we see in the real world. Minimum wage ain't moved in years. What is it minimum wage? $7.50? $7.30? $7.50? Isn't that minimum wage? I think$7.50. Because it used to be$3.37. I remember when I was a kid, it was 337 an hour. Now it's 750. 725, my bad. I gave y 'all a quarter more than you had. Ocho, so you see all these wages, CEOs, CFOs, COOs, we see everybody. But the worker, his or her wages are still 725. That's minimum. So in other words, everything gets to increase. The cost of living goes up.

9:13Shannon Sharpe:housing food cars wages stays the same i see my bosses i see everybody else is going here but the workers they stay here so as the players are seeing like these franchises going for six billion the valuation is 10 billion the evaluation is 12 billion we see tv revenue what ESPN, what Amazon, Netflix, NBC, CBS. We see what they're willing to pay. So those are increasing. They got to check every listen chat. Every team got to check for 432 million. That's before. That's just from TV. Now, I didn't mention anything about local television, local advertising parking ticket sales concession merchandise I didn't mention anything about that so while everything explodes let's suppress the players

10:23am I

10:24Shannon Sharpe:am I missing something Ocho? no you're not but that, listen when we watched the draft you wonder why Mel Kuyper was going off the way he was? Man, Mel was losing his mind losing his mind because he know good and well he was a top three pick in the first round he knew that we all knew that, if you watch the game of football if you look at the quarterbacks that went before Shadour I mean, hello the only one who's looked decent this offseason, this preseason he plays in New York he plays in New York outside of that the Saints still don't have a quarterback nope the Saints picked that 9 if I'm not mistaken, right?

11:15Shannon Sharpe:I think there might have been 9 the Steelers still don't have a quarterback yeah I mean, come on man come on man And then the people that are oblivious, that purposely turn the blind eye and act oblivious. Oh, why would the owners collude? Why would they care? I'm like, you know, it's almost like you can't be that. Naive. Come on, man. Y 'all pick and choose when to use logic, when to have common sense, when to see the bigger picture, when to understand why they would. This specific individual. Like, come on, man. Oh, Joe, this is what ED said. This is his full quote. I tell you this much. What I heard from someone that's in the NFL, that the NFL told teams, don't draft him.

12:10Shannon Sharpe:Do not draft him. We're going to make an example out of him. And this came from a very good source, a very good source. But apparently, Shadour had fallen much further than anticipated, and some league officials called the Browns and forced them to take him with the 144th overall pick. He said that, I won't say who, somebody called the Cleveland Browns and said, don't do that, draft him. Because they weren't going to draft him either. They were forced into drafting him because somebody made that call to them. I heard a very similar situation with the Michael Sam situation. So this is not, now I'm not, listen, I'm not saying that this is true.

12:54Shannon Sharpe:I'm not saying the Michael Sam's situation is true, but I did hear that, that there was a call, and it's funny that the Rams drafted the kid from Missouri.

13:10He wasn't that good, huh?

13:24Shannon Sharpe:No, he wasn't. No, he wasn't.

13:33Shannon Sharpe:He wasn't. I mean, some tried to make it about his orientation. But Ocho, if he could have got 15 sacks, hell, his boyfriend could have been a cheerleader. They wouldn't have gave a damn. man please hey you know the NFL is a business they're by hey can you do whatever your position is can you do it if you're a quarterback can you throw if you're a receiver can you catch if you're a DB can you break on the ball knock the ball down if you're a D lineman Ocho can you bend the edge can you get to the quarterback all the other stuff can't look about that that was funny that was funny I'm just being true the chat door I'm telling the truth if I don't care nothing about that oh man they're in the business we're going to try to find a guy that can get the job done no matter what you are you're right about that whatever you believe in you're doing that on your time I ain't policing nobody bedroom they home or nothing What?

14:57What? You say if he can get 15 sacks, his boyfriend can be a cheerleader? Yeah.

15:06Shannon Sharpe:People get mad about that. Man, they been there. Man, people just be finding stuff to get mad about, Ocho. I mean, we ain't watching the game for the cheerleaders anyway. No! You care. It don't matter. I don't care. No. I ain't never cared. Oh, my goodness. Boy, that was funny. But I did hear that. A very similar situation. I didn't hear this about Shador. I mean, I've gotten away from it. I'm kind of like I haven't gotten away from the league, Ocho, but I don't call as many people as I once did. When I first got to Fox, yeah, I would call and try to make sure I know and every once in a while there are some things but then they're like Shannon you too close to this right just step away but y 'all know

16:05Shannon Sharpe:y 'all know yeah but it'd be sad if this is true this would be so sad man Helen Keller can see what's going on man yeah We got on draft day. Ray Charles could see what's going on. Like, come on now. I said it. I said it the same day. When we came on the show. Like, what are we doing? When you're moving like I do, trips don't always come together weeks in advance. Sometimes production shoots, interviews, or something I've got to travel for on a short notice. Like the time when I had the last minute trip to Denver. And everything came together fast. Once it was locked in, I had to be ready to go.

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19:32Shannon Sharpe:Urban Meyer compares Shadour Sanders' NFL spotlight to Tim Tebow coming out of Florida. The issue that I remember Tim had, and the GM told me this, is that if you're a backup quarterback, they don't want all this media attention on that one player. Coaches want team, team, no distractions. How long can Shadour be a backup quarterback until the NFL decides that he's too much of a distraction? We saw this with Cam. He struggled with securing backup roles because he brought too much attention. But here's the thing. Cam was a rookie of the year. He was an MVP. He was a pro bowler many times. Right.

20:16Shannon Sharpe:Shadour has never started. I can see. I can see if he had Cam credentials and he says, okay. But he ain't never played a game. He ain't played a game. How do you know if he can or can't be a backup?

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20:36Shannon Sharpe:I get what they said about Cam because Cam had already identified himself. Cam had already established himself. Yep. So, okay, yeah, it's tough. It's tough when a guy is to that degree. Right. Cam was a pro bowler. And wait a minute. But Cam was going to never have a career like a Josh McCown, like a Ryan Fitzpatrick. Never going to have that because they weren't that to begin with. So it's easy because, see, the thing is, even though Cam, as Cam got older and some of his skills diminished, even though as a backup they still expected him to be Cam Newton because he what? He still is Cam Newton.

21:20Shannon Sharpe:Right. I already know what I'm going to get from Flacco. I already know. Ain't nobody under the illusions that Joe Flacco is going to play like he did at any point in time like he did in the playoffs. You're under no illusion that Ryan Fitzpatrick was going to ever be anything more than what Ryan Fitzpatrick or Josh McCown had ever been. Right.

21:45Shannon Sharpe:But if you get Cam, even if you bring him in, you expect magic. You expect him to turn back into Cam. Superman. You expect him to turn back into that.

22:00I don't even like... The media is covering Shadour. He's not asking for you guys to do that. He's not asking for that. They're covering him for a reason. I mean, listen, I've never seen covers like this for a fifth round.

22:22Shannon Sharpe:No, Ocho. He's on the front end. Anything having to do with the Browns, it's his face. It's his photo. It's his picture on everything. It's the same thing with Bronny James. Hell, I couldn't tell you the first pick in the draft was. Hell, I couldn't tell you the first five picks. But you know what Bronny James? Everybody talking about Shadour. They cover Shadour like Shadour was the first overall pick. Right. They cover Bronny just like he was the number one overall pick.

22:56Shannon Sharpe:Last name. I just, man. All I can say is, man, bro, when you get your chance, just shine. Shut up. That's all you can do, Ocho. You and I and others being outraged that this could be a possibility. Possibility?

23:19Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, I'm tired of getting sued What? Oh no, I'm good I'm good with them folks over there, we good We good Man, I was just like

23:34Shannon Sharpe:This is sad Yeah Nobody saw this coming The only thing I did see coming, Ocho, we talked about this Leading up to the draft New Orleans at 9 but if he gets past New Orleans at 9 there's really nobody that needs a quarterback from 9 to 21 and then if the Steelers don't take it

23:56Shannon Sharpe:but okay I can see him falling out of the first round but I ain't see him falling to the fifth round no absolutely not absolutely not

24:15Shannon Sharpe:Colts announced Daniel Jones as quarterback one over Anthony Richardson. Colts quarterback Cam, Colts quarterback coach Cam Turner was asked if the staff failed Richardson. I feel like I've tried everything I can do, and I feel like he's giving great effort in that aspect too. I don't think either way, one or the other.

24:40Shannon Sharpe:Ocho. That door done closed. We talked about Ocho when the moment they signed him, Ocho, I tried to, I said, Ocho, it's just like, Chad, y 'all guys at y 'all job. Let's just say for the sake of argument, I'm going to be generous. All of you at a job that make at least$100 ,000 a year. Yeah. They bring somebody in there and pay him$700 ,000 a year. And y 'all have the exact same job. Now, which one of you guys think is leaving?

25:11Shannon Sharpe:the right was on the wall you don't pay that man no for ocho that's starting money 14 million dollars to be a backup that man was never gonna be no backup never never and if andy richardson didn't bro the worst thing could happen ocho first play first pass play sack fumble dislocated his pinky the line is sliding to the left he's hot out the right guy hit him dead inside his head I can see Shane stinking Jesus Christ I took my glass the head coach that's what he said this is a third year player and that is an elementary blitz the line is going lives, your heart. Any one player come. It's gap protection, which means everybody is free to release, Ocho.

26:10Shannon Sharpe:You got five line sliding. They brought the guy to the offensive tackle, say, I'm taking the most dangerous. Step down. Now, what he should have done, it says, nah, let's rip it. I'm going to slide the line to the right. We protect it now. so I can drop back and throw in peace. Bro, if why, Ocho, the thing is what's confusing to me, it's a Liz call and you look at that side, you protected that side? Were you not protected? To the right? Yes. And hell, the tight end turned around for the hot read right away. And the back run the flat route. You say, why the back? Because that's not his job. And scat protection, no eligible receiver has a responsibility to block.

27:02Shannon Sharpe:That's why they call it scat, which means five eligible guys are out on the route. Scat protection. You got five men. Now, if you call something else, you know, you call a 50 protection, 70 protection, your tight end might stay in. Or you can call a protection to keep the back end. Or you can sit tail to back to chip his way out. But that doesn't, that looked like a scat protection. which means five eligible receivers, five offensive linemen, and the quarterback makes 11. The linemen obviously can't take their big ass out and run no route, so they block it. Right. Quarterback can't go out because he's throwing the ball.

27:38Shannon Sharpe:So your five receivers, maybe it's three receivers, a tight end on the back, free to go. Yeah. I also think they made the decision because they're playing – they're coaching for their jobs this year too, huh? Yeah. They're coaching for their jobs. And if they had to go between the two quarterbacks, which one of these quarterbacks do I trust? Get the job done for us and give us our best chance to win, to save my ass, to save my job so I don't get fired? Boy, look at that. Because I was part of the decision. You chose Daniel Jones. I mean, the lesser of the two, I mean, which way do you go? You either run into a lion's den or a tiger pen with pork chop drawers.

28:34Shannon Sharpe:Either way. The same thing. Okay. There it is.

28:42Shannon Sharpe:Hey, man. So you already know what's going to happen. Hey. So now, you know what this does tell me? But one, I would hope Anthony Richards had got himself together going into his third year. Because after this season, they would have had to come see him. Yes. They would have had to come see him after this season. Yes. But this also lets me know, Daniel Jones is starting this year. That means in the 2026 draft, they will be drafting a quarterback in the first round. See, Dan Jones done got paid once He good They will be drafting a quarterback The Colts will be drafting a quarterback In this upcoming draft in April But the thing is, Ocho, is that Look Everybody knew That Anthony Richardson was a project Yeah Bring a veteran guy in Let him learn Up under Yeah I don't even think, not even learning up under.

29:47Someone like that with not as many reps in college and in high school, he has to play. He has to learn through playing, going through the ups and the downs.

29:59Shannon Sharpe:He ain't seen enough to play. He's not seen enough. Well, for him, doing it for the sideline ain't going to work. Yes, him, it has to. In the game. you see what happened put him in the game his third year he got hit in his ear hole because he didn't know what to do so you think a guy that's coming out as a project and he needs to play immediately the only way you're gonna get it right is by being out there Carson didn't play right away how did that Carson Palmer do Carson had John Kitten in front of him Carson Palmer is also wait didn't Carson win the yes he won the Heisman Trophy the first pick of the draft they compared him to now come on now I'm just Ocho look at the quarterback look at who he had coaching him he had Steve Sarkeesian and Lane Kiffin there's a reason why Arch Manning is against Texas who's the head coach Sark he also had he also had Matt Leiner.

31:09Shannon Sharpe:Lefty. Look at Lane Kiffin. Look at the quarterbacks that he had in Alabama. What are we doing here? You bring a guy in and you're like, okay, he's a project. And you, Ocho, a project is something like, you know what? It's like an old car. It's a project. I'm gonna take my time. But once I get it up and going, Ocho, that thing is a thing of beauty. a building. It's a project. But hey, turn into something beautiful. You don't get a project, Ocho, and try to live in a damn thing. Hey, I'm moving in next week. Hey, hold on. A project? You're not picking a project before picking a draft. That's what I said.

31:55Shannon Sharpe:But I said, if you do, Ocho, I said, if you do, if you do, you bring someone in, and you let him see how it's done. Right. But it's got to be someone that's confident. Like, look at what they did with Mahone boy. They traded all the way up, took it with number 10. Yep. Parked it behind Alex Smith. Boom. Yeah, yeah. If Tom Brady can wait a damn year, Anthony Richardson can wait a year. If Mahomes can wait a year, if Carson Palmer can wait a year, Ben Roethlisberger, Phillip Rivers, Eli Manning started on the bench. The number one pick. Yeah. Anthony Richardson could have started on the bench. He needed to learn, Ocho.

32:51Shannon Sharpe:He hadn't played enough college football. And like you said, he was a project. Yeah. Damn, man, that's messed up, man. but you know i'm surprised by that don't you when we saw this i said he going to be gonna be starter listen i i i wasn't surprised anyway because i already knew it was going to happen regardless of the quarterback quarterback competition that they continue to make or they tried to make it out to be once i saw daniel jones get that kind of money for one year thank you the right the writing was on the wall i mean who are they fooling that's the that's the game that's the game that they play when you understand the game you already know what's coming You already know what's coming.

33:34That's unfortunate. I hope all works out for him, though. I like Young Bull, man.

33:40Shannon Sharpe:Hey, maybe he needs to go someplace else. But he needs to get with somebody. Like, I would love for him to go to a Cliff Kingsbury, a Sean McVay, one of those mines, a Andy – well, he's not going to be able to go. but I'm just saying, you know what I'm saying, Ocho? Right. Guys that will let him develop. You can't take a project and say, okay, we're going to get you to play. And now, because they got talent. Yeah. They got a nice offensive line. They got an outstanding running back. They got skilled position players. They just devoid a quarterback. They're good enough to win offensively, Ocho.

34:18Yeah.

34:18Shannon Sharpe:You look at their skilled position players. You look at that offensive line. They're good enough to win. Yeah. The quarterback play has just been, since Andrew Luck retired, look at all the quarterbacks they've had. They've had Phillip Rivers. They've had Matt Ryan. They've had a host of quarterbacks. Again, to be exact.

34:40Damn.

34:41Shannon Sharpe:Coach Belichick appears to take a shot at Patriots owner Robert Kraft. Belichick was asked, what's the biggest difference between coaching in the pros and college? it's a lot of football and there's not much in your way there's no owner there's no owner's son

35:02lord have mercy hey hold on i'm confused but bill bill ran the show when he was there thank you he ran the show no when i know he literally ran the show i know okay okay okay Coach, I get it.

35:23Shannon Sharpe:It always hurt, Ocho, when we get let go from a job. It hurts. It does. No matter how long. Ocho, you could be at a job 35 years. Right. You had 35 great years. If they relieve you of your duty, you feel they done you wrong. Yeah, most definitely. Especially when it's not on good terms. The coach Belichick understands. The pros not like college. Mike Krzyzewski could have stayed at Duke as long as he wanted. Coach Summit, rest her soul, she could have stayed at Tennessee as long as she wanted. Coach Smith, unless there's something egregious, unless there's a scandal, a la Bobby Knight, and his credentials at Indiana, they're going to stay.

36:11Shannon Sharpe:Pros don't work like that. You don't get no lifetime contract in the pros. No. They wouldn't get rid of Coach Saban at Alabama. They wouldn't have got rid of Coach Paterno at Penn State. Like I said, something egregious, a scandal. All bets are off once that happens. But Coach Belichick, you ran the show. They gave you everything you wanted. Mr. Crabb didn't bother you, was not in your way.

36:48Shannon Sharpe:Damn. You had 20 years. Six Super Bowls. That's crazy. Six.

36:59Shannon Sharpe:You know what, Ocho? Honestly, I just hope one day they can sit down and have a conversation. They are. It's going to happen. Because if you really look at it, Mr. Kraft is so different than Coach Belichick. I'm talking about...

37:16And you know what's funny is Bill is cool as hell. Yes. There's a whole other side of Bill that no one has had the opportunity to experience.

37:24Shannon Sharpe:He was at the Pro Bowl one year, the coach. Yes. You're absolutely right, Ocho. Because all they see is, you know, Bill in front of the camera. You're talking to reporters. Man, there's a whole – man, listen, I had to – man, Bill was on the show with us, man, for six months straight last season. Boy, so funny. so funny and obviously his personality and all that stuff playing for the Patriots but seeing him in that environment away from him such a joy I was at the Pro Bowl with him and seeing him around the bar and interacting with the guys he's totally different he's totally different he's opening, he's engaging, he's funny yeah but I'm going to have to disagree I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one Coach Belichick I think you're phenomenal but after they let you run the show for 20 years

38:27Shannon Sharpe:everything everything

38:31Shannon Sharpe:all the players that you released all the players from the Ty Laws the Willie McGinnises and all those guys the training of the Richard Seymour the trading of the Logan Mankins, all that. The cutting of Lawyer Malloy, the trading of Drew Bledsoe. We get that because, Tom, we get all that. You did all of that. Mr. Kraft just patiently just stood by. He didn't talk. The only time Mr. Kraft really talked was, what, that Tuesday, that Monday, Super Bowl week, Ocho, and after the game.

39:14Shannon Sharpe:Do you think there's a lot of pressure on Coach Belichick to win at a high level at UNC?

39:21Probably based on his resume, based on his accolades, based on what he's done in the past. You're expecting what he was able to accomplish with the Patriots to happen at UNC. Obviously, if you understand the collegiate game, it doesn't happen that fast. Obviously, I think they will be improving based on what they did last year going into this season now that they had Belichick. I think gradually they'll continue to get better. But like instant success, like, oh, right? No, no, I see improvements gradually. I mean, Clemson's in that division.

39:55Shannon Sharpe:I mean, in that conference, ACC. Yeah. How good is Florida State going to be? I mean, listen, I'll tell you one thing. the best football school in Tallahassee right now is Florida. It's fam.

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42:43Shannon Sharpe:IceCube's Big 3 season is heating up and it all comes down to this. The Big 3 playoffs are coming to Dallas, Texas. The four best teams in the Big Three battle it out for a spot in the championship. The action starts with the legendary Big Three Celebrity Game. Three games of the most physical, competitive, and nonstop three-on-three action. The game played the way you love. Watch live Saturday on CBS at 12 p.m. Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific, and catch replays Monday on BET. Presented by iHeart. A-yay-yay! Lamar Jackson avoided serious injury after getting his foot stepped on during Wednesday's practice, according to John Harbaugh.

43:20Shannon Sharpe:I told the guys prayers don't get answered. I was praying. Oh, prayers do get answered. I was praying. Ocho, we're hearing a lot of franchise quarterback getting hit in practice lately. He got stepped on, right? So what, it was doing a fight? Or he got pulled out from under the center? He got stepped on. None too crazy. He good, though. He good. Listen, Lamar ain't made of glass. He ain't made of glass. He going to be all right. I saw a little post by Adam Schefter, and Schefter made it a little bit more, made it seem a little bit more serious than what he did. Serious than it was. And Lamar is under the post laughing.

44:09Yeah. And, you know, when it comes to injuries, the Ravens are one of those teams that don't leak anything. The players don't say nothing, and the team don't say nothing. So Adam Schefter had to go out on a limb based on what he may think it is and how serious he may think it is, and Lamar just went under the Instagram post and just laughed it off, which lets you know there ain't nothing wrong with me. I'm good, man. But again, it is. Even if you're not good, I'll be good in what, 10 days, 14, when they play.

44:42Shannon Sharpe:So I'll be good in 10, 14, so in two weeks? I'll be good. I don't got to be good right now. I'll be good in two weeks. But just the fact that football season is here, man. Golly, I can't wait. Yeah. Ocho, yesterday was a busy day for trades on our off day. Chiefs traded wide receiver Sky Moore and a seventh-round pick to the 49ers for a sixth-round pick. Broncos traded Devon Vail to the Saints for a fourth and a seventh. The Vikings traded Harrison Phillips and a seventh to the Jets for two sixth rounders. The Browns traded DT Jawan Briggs and a seventh to the Jets for a sixth. Ocho, which trade will have the most immediate impact?

45:31Oh, immediate? I'm not even sure. I'm not sure if any of these players are going to actually be an immediate impact. If anything, Sky Moore has had opportunities with the Chiefs to make an impact and make a change there. maybe if he can get his confidence back and get himself back into rhythm and being able to see and catch the ball, he can be an impact, you know, where he is in some way, shape, form, or fashion. I would love for him to get back into a groove. It seems that he's lost his confidence a little bit.

46:05Shannon Sharpe:It happens sometimes, young player. Yeah. You have success. You catch, you know, big touchdown in the Super Bowl. Team win, come back, struggle a little bit, you get injured. It's tough. Yeah. Tough.

46:32Shannon Sharpe:Is it Vili? Devon Vili? The Broncos traded him. I liked him. I thought he was really good. It just goes to show you, I guess the Saints really needed it because he gave him a fourth. I tell you, he got some value on Joe. They gave him a fourth? Yeah. And a seventh? Yeah. I mean. Everybody else going for sixth and seventh round picks, and they got a fourth and a seventh.

47:00Shannon Sharpe:Damn. 49ers need this. Demarcus Robinson is going to miss the first three games. Had a situation in the Rose last offseason. NFL stepped in. It's like, okay, you're going to miss the first three games. they need, because what is IU? Juwan Jennings, Pierce. Pierce Hall. Pierce Hall. Pierce Hall. We understand. The Saints, Olave, Shahid. How is Shahid? How is Shahid? Huh? Shahid. Is he okay? Yeah, he good. That boy, fast as hell, right? What is that? I can't wait. Ocho, a woman loses 1.3 million lottery winnings after hiding it from her ex-husband. 11 days after winning, she reportedly filed for divorce without ever mentioning her sudden fortune.

48:00Shannon Sharpe:For two years, she believed she had pulled off until her ex found out. When he allegedly took her to court, the judge didn't split the winnings. He cited a family code statute that punishes spouses who conceal property during the divorce. The verdict? She had to hand over 100 % of the lottery winnings to her ex-husband. That could have been life-changing wealth that turned into a cautionary tale. Deception in marriage and the law. Wait. She had to pay him the whole thing? The whole thing.

48:39Hey, you see what money do to people?

48:44Yeah. You see what money do to people?

48:49Shannon Sharpe:I think, look at this up. There's a guy in Wisconsin. He won the lottery. I think he won like 200 and something million. He split it with his wife and said, I'm up out of here. He split it and left? I think he did. I think it was in Wisconsin. God gets divorced after winning Hey Man listen man Money is a powerful thing Yeah Listen Bro why would you Ocho You know boy they punish you They will punish You married and you hide Right Marital possessions Yeah They'll make you give the whole thing up Hey man One thing about it Everybody can go on that trip with you But they're not going to make it to the destination Nah She had to get it all Boy you know she was sick Yeah absolutely Listen When it comes to money Women You know what women will do man.

50:01You find it? Come on now. Greedy. Greedy. But money make it do some crazy things, man. Lose friendship, lose family members. The right amount. A nice chunk.

50:24Shannon Sharpe:One guy won the lottery after he got divorced. He won$273 million. You know, Joe? What? He got divorced and won $273 million. Hmm.

50:44I'm going to play. I just got married. I'm going to play the lotto then. I'm going to play the lotto and see what happens. See if I get lucky. See if me and my baby get lucky. Yeah. So that's what I'm going to do. I'm going to go play the lotto. I'm going to hit about$500 million. And then, boom, this is what I'm going to do. I'm going to hit$500 million. Then I'm going to shoot you$100 million.

51:13Shannon Sharpe:Bro, first of all, Ocho, you do realize you win$500 million, you taking a lump sum? Yeah, I'm going to take a lump sum. If you win$500 million, you probably get like$180 million. No, I ain't. No, I ain't. Out of five, no. I get about, I get. I get no Ocho you know Ocho you get that if you take it over over the note if you take it over 25 years if you take a lump sum I'm some you're not gonna get that much Ocho yes it is on 500 million you get about 180 some million oh you are completely wrong it's not that much okay

51:59yeah I'm going by 500 so I'm going to get two I'm going to shoot you 100

52:05Shannon Sharpe:Ocho I ain't going to lie to you Ocho I win the lottery it's going to be Ocho and somebody Ocho and somebody nightcap I'm just telling you Ocho how you going to leave me Ocho, you told me I need to live my life. You say, oh, you don't go nowhere, you don't do nothing. Oh, so you're going to wait until you win the lottery, then you're going to leave me by myself? Hold on.

52:38Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, in the state of Florida, if you won the lottery, $500 million, you take a lump sum, you get$260 million. I told you. No state taxes. Well, listen. Yeah. i'm gonna shoot you 100 million i'm not don't shoot me that you shoot me shoot me a cool shoot me a cool 10 to do me no no no no you didn't do nothing with that boom oh i'm just gonna tell you what i'm gonna do what you're gonna do nightcap featuring ocho and whoever else you want

53:13as a matter of fact hey you the new host to club shay

53:22Shannon Sharpe:I got to hear. I'll go. I'll go.

53:30Hey, you know, you won't leave because you like what you do. I do, Ocho. But Ocho, with that kind of money? Yeah. You told me. You don't do this for the money. You do this because you love it.

53:45Shannon Sharpe:I do. I'll tell you what. I work football season. But the minute the Super Bowl is over You gone? I see y 'all next football season No, no, no, no, no Because listen, when football season is over That's when we get to do the other half of our show Oh no, ain't no other half of no show for shit No, that bench is an Unc and Ocho Yeah, Ocho Jet skiing, water skiing I'm a seasonal worker And the season will be over for Unc Nah, man You got to keep the money train going Let me live You could be billionaires I'm telling you You could be billionaires That's how it starts Oh that's how it starts Yeah It gotta start somewhere

54:36Shannon Sharpe:Alright it's time for our final segment Of the evening It's time for Q and A Yeah With my baby Baby I know you watching here they got the lotto out there we're going to play the lotto hey chat I'm going to win the lotto man I'm going to win the lotto all of us everybody in the chat we're going to be debt free we're going to fix this I need to run for presidency I need to run for presidency you coming over

55:14Shannon Sharpe:uh iamflesh23 say club ocho live from tootsies

55:23Shannon Sharpe:yeah i like that kepper nowhere jr said ocho are you locked in on abdul carter winning defensive rookie of the year absolutely absolutely listen there there's some other there's other good players obviously we know what travis hunting gonna do we don't know how much he's going to be on the defensive side of the ball or offense but abdul carter and the impact he's gonna have as a rookie based on what we've seen so far he's definitely gonna win it he's definitely gonna win it unless someone that we just have no clue or think is is is in the running to win it just comes out of nowhere but i think abdul carter obviously penn state you know how those boys get down so I'm assuming he probably will win it Jason Zelsdorf Dart is a bad man Dart is way better than Sanders he had a better preseason he got an opportunity to play more he got more reps

56:22Shannon Sharpe:you're just looking at college numbers when they got the same number of reps it's hard to say that Dart was better but in the pros he's gotten more reps with the ones he's gotten more time He's got an opportunity to play more. We'll see how it plays out. But, Jason, Dart does look good. OG underscore Thanos, what's up, Uncle Ocho? How soon will we see Jackson Dart starting, considering how good he's looked in the preseason? Over under eight weeks, Ocho. Over under eight weeks?

56:58Shannon Sharpe:Ooh, that's a good one. I think if things – Actually, let's go nine weeks because it's 18 weeks in the season. Right. So we go right down the middle. Over or under nine. I really honestly, I honestly, I don't think it's going to happen. I honestly don't think it's – I think Russell Wilson is going to go on a run. He's going to go on a run of consistency, not turning the ball over, taking what the defense gives him, and running a safe offense.

57:33Shannon Sharpe:in a few I'm going to say so you going you taking the over yeah yeah y 'all y 'all y 'all counting y 'all counting the preacher boy out man I'll go under I'll say I'll say under man listen God is on Russell Wilson's side Jackson Darty in the field this year Paul the truth believer said, Ocho, Shadour said, child, please. They can kiss the baby with all that crazy talk. One Die Hard Eagle fan, shout out to the nightcap. Thank you, One Die Hard Eagle fan. Appreciate the support. Dr. Frankie L. Bellaman, hey fam, I'm 35 ,000 feet in the air on my way to London and still watching nightcap. If that ain't dedication, I don't know what is.

58:25Shannon Sharpe:Love y 'all. Doc, we appreciate that. Doc was here from, I think Doc might have been It might have been like the first two or three in the chat when we started. Way back. Way back, Ocho. Because I think we had like 300 people the first night. Matter of fact, wherever Doc is going, do me a favor. I don't know if you've ever been to a soccer game. Please go to a soccer game while you're in London and tell Unk what the experience is like. Please. Because hearing it from me, maybe hearing it from you, you know, will do a little bit more justice. but you got the experience one while you're out there in London.

59:00Please. What's today? Today's what? Thursday. Thursday? Yeah. Games is Saturday and Sunday. Saturday and Sunday. Wherever you at in London, please catch a game. Oh, man. I got to get my boo-boo Zayla. What you know about that? They banned those. Did they? Yeah, remember at the World Cup.

59:24Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got one. I went to Australia for a preseason game, and I got a Vuvuzela. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I got a didgeridoo. For real? One of those Australian, those things. Yeah.

59:43Shannon Sharpe:And, yep, G. Smith, bless y 'all. Much love, peace, and respect for it. Anime Slayer. Hey, Shannon, have you ever watched the anime Neon Genesis Evangeline? Stay golden, Shay Shay. No, I don't. What's anime? What'd they do? Oh. I hear people talking about it, but I don't know anything about it. Have I ever seen it? Oh, okay. I tried. I was looking, guys. I tried.

1:00:26Shannon Sharpe:that completes this episode of nightcap thank you guys for joining us again chat we greatly appreciate that y 'all know me i'm your favorite on shannon sharp my partner and co-host liberty city's own madden ratings adjuster bingo's ring of fame honoree the pro bowl of the all pro all pro that's chad ochocinco johnson please make sure y 'all hit that subscribe button please make sure you hit the like button and do us a favor go subscribe to the nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. We'd like to thank each and every one of you for your support and your continued support because thanks to you, we've risen to heights we could only have dreamed of in a very, very short period of time.

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1:01:43Shannon Sharpe:With 84 being spelled out, that link is pinned in the chat. We want to thank our special, special guest, Jalen Johnson, the outstanding cornerback from the Chicago Bears for joining us, giving us a little bit of his time. Get some rest, young man. Get some rest. Stay healthy and all the best. The Giants beat the Patriots and the Steelers beat the Panthers. Preseason is coming to an end. The regular season is on the horizon and we can't wait. Thank you guys for joining us. We'll see you tomorrow. I'm Unc. He's Ocho. We're out. When you're teeing off and your client

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Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Shedeur Sanders responding to Dillion Gabriel comments, Ed Dickerson spills the eta on Shedeur Sanders, Urban Meyer compares Shedeur to Tebow’s situation, and Colts announce Daniel Jones as QB 1 and much more!

 

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