Nightcap Hour 2: Unc & Ocho react to Tyreek NO LONGER a captain & Arch escaping the Shedeur treatment!

25:52And not going anywhere, gaming, my money I had to spend, it was spent on buying games. That was it. That's where my money went.

26:03Shannon Sharpe:I mean, I didn't really watch no football games, Ocho. I would only watch a football game, a Monday night game, Ocho, if we weren't going to play that team during the season. If we were going to play that team during the season, I ain't watching it. No? Nope. because I didn't want to have a false sense because if they look bad, I didn't want to think, oh, we're going to run through them. Or if they look good, I'm like, damn, we got our work cut out. I got you. But I've always been a guy that got in a, like I said, in college, I'm 10 o 'clock. And don't be running out of the country. You know, I was just reading a kid, I think 11-year-old kid in Houston just got shot again, Ocho, playing that knock-knock-ding-ding thing.

26:47Playing on people's porch?

26:49Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Ding dong ditch? Yeah, man. Man, Ocho. Guys in college, Ocho. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Beat on your door. Locking on your dorm room, though, and running? Yeah. Really, guys? Really? Listen, I'm one. That was me. And listen, you talk about ding dong ditch. My condolences to the young bull that lost his life in Houston doing that. But I was doing that too back in the city. I'll never forget Scott Projects. Scott Projects, me and Snoop Minnis. I don't know if you remember Marvin Minnis. Yeah, I heard of him. I don't know him. Man, we was little kids, man, in the Scott Projects. Man, knock, knock, knock, taking off.

27:33Shannon Sharpe:I remember them days. Oh, those were some good days. That was like my freshman year. When I got to be a sophomore, and I was the BMOC, Right. Don't do that. What BMOC stand for? Big man on campus. Okay, okay, okay. Oh, you were that boy, huh? Okay, okay. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. My sophomore, my sophomore, yeah. And definitely my junior and senior year. Oh, yeah. You were that man. Man, y 'all know how sharp is, man. Yeah. Okay. Nah, nah, nah. I just, I just, but I needed my rest. I done, I done did, look, I done practiced my ass off. Coach Davis done had us out there for two, two and a half hours.

28:14Shannon Sharpe:I done gone to study hall, did my homework. I'm out. I got to get up at 7 in the morning. I got class at 8, so I got to get up, shower, put my clothes on, go to the cafeteria, eat breakfast. Time out, time out. You schedule your classes for early in the morning? Oh, boy, look here. Bill Davis say, look here, you ain't on no academic scholarship. You on a football scholarship. boy you couldn't have no class you couldn't have no class the latest you could have a class we had practice at we had practice at three the latest the absolute latest right building what coach davis didn't want you to have a class afternoon my class was eight eight to nine nine to ten ten to eleven eleven to twelve i go eat 30 minutes to eat then i go get me go get me a hour and a half nap get up walk the practice we had to walk the practice we couldn't drive to practice right to walk the practice which is like maybe half a mile practice for two two and a half hours go to the cafeteria you eat go shower go do my homework 10 o 'clock 10 30 lights out you better than me i wouldn't i get up early but i ain't getting up to go to no class the only problem that coach look coach davis i love coach davis today the only time the only time he and I butted heads.

29:37Shannon Sharpe:5 a.m. workouts.

29:42Shannon Sharpe:That's the only time that's the only time I've ever told a coach, coach, I ain't going to do it. 5 a.m.? I'm not going to do it. That's not the military. That's like army. That's like, you know. Nah, they tripping. Man, you know he had the off-season workouts Ocho 5 o 'clock

30:10Shannon Sharpe:me getting up early Ocho it just like ruined my day I feel like I'm sluggish the rest of the day if you have to get up early yeah man I hated it and plus I had to get up my senior year before I went to Savannah State Ocho we did construction we did landscaping and I had to work in Savannah. And I lived in Glenville, which is 65 miles away. We got to be on the job at 6 a.m. So the guy picking me up at 4.30, I said, nah, man. I ain't doing that. I said, coach, I can't do it, coach. I said, coach, I can't do it. I said, coach, I can't do it. He said, Dale Holmes, he said, you the leader. I said, well, coach, I'm going to have to leave from the bed.

31:02Shannon Sharpe:I'm going to leave from my dorm room. And he didn't bother me because he know what I was there for. I was very specific when he came to recruit me at Savannah State. When he came to my house to sign me that morning when I said to coach, I called him and said, coach, I want to sign with Savannah State. He said, I'm going to put some clothes on. I'm coming right now. I said, no, coach, you can come in the morning. I was very intentional about what I wanted. Right. I can't do that.

31:33yeah what i can do is what i can do tom brady says aaron rogers is the most talented quarterback

31:39Shannon Sharpe:in nfl history aaron in his prime to me is the greatest passer of the football the league has ever seen he could get the ball from point a to point b faster and more accurate than any player in nfl history you agree absolutely and you know if anything you might want to throw brett farve in it too. I don't think Brett was a great thrower of the football. When I think of great throwers of the football, I'm looking at a guy like Aaron Rodgers. I'm looking at a guy like Dan Marino. Danny. Wait, you don't put whoa, whoa, whoa. You don't put Brett in that conversation? Not a great thrower of the football, no.

32:16But I understand what he's saying when he talks about Aaron Rodgers though. The arm, the slots, the angles

32:23Shannon Sharpe:in which he can throw the ball from, the platforms. Every last one. From up All the way down to the sidearm. It didn't matter. And he was accurate as hell. Yes. Accurate as hell. Yes. Obviously, and especially Aaron Rodgers' mechanics, his footwork, that's not teach that. You don't teach that. You cannot. You would never. You cannot teach that. He throwing off one foot, he throwing going back because he has arm strength to do it. He has arm strength to be able to get away with some of the stuff that he does. Anything Aaron Rodgers like when it comes to playing the quarterback position, you can teach it because he's the only one that can get away with it because he has the arm in his toe.

32:59Shannon Sharpe:But I still, to me, the greatest NFL season by a quarterback is Dan's season in 84. Yeah, with his offense. Yeah. He threw for 48 touchdowns, 5 ,000 yards. In that era, when you could knock hell out of the quarterback, you could knock hell out of receivers, and he did that, that's still the greatest for – that is Joe Burrow's season his last year at LSU. That's what that would be the equivalent of. You got to go and look. Like I said, back then, the defenses could punish the quarterback. I'm talking about annihilate them. There wasn't no, well, you hit him in the back, you hit him in his knee, you hit him below the waist, and that was the greatest season.

33:47Shannon Sharpe:But I won't argue with Tom on this one. Aaron Rodgers, the way he could, the platforms, the arm slots which he can throw the ball from, and the accuracy in which he can throw from any angle on the field. He's sick of none. I mean, he's gifted. He's gifted. And the funny thing about it, a lot of people say, oh, Aaron Rodgers is trash. If you've watched the game of football, when Aaron was in his prime of Green Break, with Donald Driver, Jordy Nelson, Devontae Adams, man oh he had Greg Jennings Greg Jennings James Johnson yeah he could sling it he could sling it

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38:33Shannon Sharpe:Damn, just thinking about that. CeeDee Lamb denounced rumors that Micah Parsons was considered both egotistical and self-centered. That's my dog. He knows it. I expressed to him just about every week I could. So I feel like he knows where we stand as far as the brotherhood, friendship, and all that. So obviously wishing him the best. Hope he has the best season ever. Trayvon Diggs felt everyone in Dallas currently locker room like Micah, and he indicated that the fuel for those rumors likely came from former Cowboys. He didn't name names, but it was pretty clear Diggs was referring to DeMarcus Lawrence.

39:05Shannon Sharpe:I think everyone liked him. I feel there were some former players who were not here no more who didn't like Micah. There was a lot of that. I would say hate, jealousy, envy towards him because of who he is and the production that he does on the field. Imagine if you could come here and you're talking like somebody's shine or taking somebody's spot. You're not going to like that. They're going to feel some type of way, especially you're that type of person.

39:32Shannon Sharpe:the greater the person, listen, because sometimes I think people, the greater the athlete, the greater the individual, the bigger the ego. Quarterbacks have the biggest ego. They do the best job of hiding it. The greater the person, the greater the player, the more accomplished the person is. so are we saying that Beyonce and Taylor Swift ain't got no ego are we saying Drake, Michael Jackson, Whitney, Mariah ain't have no ego are we saying are we saying Elon Musk and who whomever got no ego so we're saying Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Lawrence Taylor Jim Brown ain't have no ego they all do the greater the person the more accomplished the person or successful yeah all of them what we do what we do in here everybody's not gonna be liked and that's okay what you do what you do when you get on the field bro long as you ain't a jerk long as you not do you know doing anything that's gonna that's gonna harm the locker room or call a fraction in the locker room bro I don't care nothing about that bro yeah first of all I ain't going I ain't going to your house like that anyway so what you do I don't care you leave look this is my locker right here Ocho this is my locker right here as long as you don't F with nothing in my locker don't give a damn what you do I ain't messing with nothing in your locker you got a job to do I got a job to do hey man how you do we don't have to be friends we can be friendly yeah it's a locker room huh you got 53 people you got 53 people everybody's not gonna get along yeah everybody's not gonna get along you're gonna have egos you're gonna have you're gonna have people with pride you're gonna yes you're gonna have jealousy you know and it's just it's always it's always been a part of sports it's always been a part of locker rooms it's always been a part of teams in general you're not gonna like everybody nope you're not there this is that's not a liking contest you there for one job Do your job.

41:59Shannon Sharpe:I like you more if you do your job good. I like you even more. But, look, I don't, you know, clearly CD and Diggs have the fondness to – with Micah. I've been around him a little bit. I don't have no problem with Micah. Never had a problem with it. He's a funny dude. That's why hearing anything come up about ego, especially when it comes to him, he's a funny guy. He's young. You know? It's weird. It's funny how everything comes out when someone actually leaves. We knew that was going to happen. Funny how that works. You know, you ever notice the guy was a problem on the job? 15 for 20 years. Ain't nobody say nothing.

42:49Shannon Sharpe:The moment somebody leaves, yeah, yeah, he was a problem. him. Yeah, he was probably the best one on the job, too. Yes. Let's add that.

42:59Shannon Sharpe:The Miami Dolphins announced their captains for the 2025 season Monday, but there is one glaring omission. For the first time since joining the team in 2022, Tyreek Hill was not voted a captain by his teammates. Reek himself suggested this offseason that he likely would not be a captain this year due to his actions at the end of the 2024 regular season when he removed himself from a game from the finale and hinted after the game that he wanted to play elsewhere. Mike McDonald had a very revealing quote. I'm really excited about the whole voting process in general this year. The team was much more unified, and the focus was on those six guys was very clear.

43:36Shannon Sharpe:Those were resounding vote-getters. We were focused on giving the keys to captaincy to guys that had earned it each and every day. that speaks to me the most is a football team that knows who it wants to be led by. Yeah, that's cute. That's cute. It's commendable. You know, having your peers on your team, vote you as a captain. Yeah. That'd be nice, man. I wanted a captain to see you on my jersey. That's cool. Honestly, for me, my Dolphins, my Dolphins, and those of you in the chat, I'm from Liberty City, born in Jackson Memorial Hospital in Dade County. 12th Avenue, what I care about is my Dolphins playing well in the postseason.

44:21Is my Dolphins playing well when they play against teams that are above 500? Is my Dolphins playing well when the weather is below 50 degrees? I don't care who's carrying that C on that goddamn chest. I just want us to be able to execute offensively and defensively when it matters most. That's it. That's it. I mean but look

44:46Shannon Sharpe:there's no way it would have been it would have been a joke if he did what he did and he turns around the following year and he's a captain couldn't have that they weren't going to let that happen no joke even if he got even if he got 52 votes he wasn't going to be no captain they wouldn't let that happen no joke you know that I know that we know how it worked we know who they want to be captains come on now okay okay okay we're on the same page we're here Yeah. We here. Yeah. But look, I think Reek learned a valuable lesson. I think if he had to do it all over again, he definitely would do it a different way.

45:22Shannon Sharpe:He's going through some stuff right now, Reek. My heart goes, I tell you, because I think you're a phenomenal player. I absolutely do. And I know that's a lot on your mind. Anybody, you know, being there. It's going to be, hey, don't worry, bro. It's easy to say, tell somebody not to worry about something when they're not going through it. But when you going through it.

45:47So. I mean.

45:55Shannon Sharpe:It's tough because like you do things like you in it, Ocho, you like in the minute you do, you like them.

46:05Shannon Sharpe:but I don't I don't I don't I mean Reed was in a great situation yeah he went to Miami that's where he wanted to go I mean they could have traded him someplace else they ask him I mean think Ocho think about this Ocho they ask you where you want to go you want to go to the Jets you want to go to the Dolphins yeah they put it where he wanted to be and I get it uh when you had the season come off he led the league in receiving he was a remember last year ocho he was the number one player voted by his peers in the top 100 yeah your quarterback gets nicked you're not the same reek people like you know he didn't lose it lose nothing it's just it's just that you know his quarterback got hurt he he's dependent on a quarterback that's injury prone the guy's been injury prone since college he limped into the nfl he probably gonna limp out of it he had a lot of injuries when he was at, when he was at Alabama, Ochoa, you know, he had the tight rope surgery on his ankle.

47:04Shannon Sharpe:He had the dislocated heel. He had the injury, the pinky. He had an injury history. Yeah. And guess what? He's had a concussion or I don't know if you want to say concussions or injury, but he's had a history since he's been with the dolphins and Tyree's future is tied. His success, his production is tied to a guy that's injury prone. Yeah. It's kind of like, Ocho, you relying on somebody that's unreliable to get you to work. Hmm. Man.

47:46It's tough.

47:48Shannon Sharpe:It's tough. And then he didn't he didn't make it no better. because he could have just went there and said, I'm happy to be in Miami. It's great, great weather, great team. But every chance he gets, he tries to take a shot at Mahomes. Oh, Tua is more this than Mahomes. Oh, this is that. Bro, you don't need to do that. Nobody. Even though you play with both, you're not going to convince anybody that Tua is a better quarterback than Mahomes. You're not. So why you try to do that? I believe you can prop one guy up. without trying to put another guy down. Guy down, yeah. Well, in that situation, that's not putting a guy down because you can't put Mahomes down, especially in that comparison when it comes to the quarterback position.

48:34But I think Rick has a lot to prove this year, especially coming up last year. Obviously, them not voting him a captain. Boom, that's another one. Okay, y 'all didn't want to vote me a captain? Okay, hold my beer. Watch this. Watch this. And he finna go slapping.

48:51Shannon Sharpe:I hope so. Go slap off. Because, I mean, you know, he's a special talent. There are not very many guys that's played in the history of the game that had his God-given ability that can take any route on the field, and he's a legitimate threat to hit his head on the goalpost. Now, we say that, oh, you give him a five. No, no, no, no, no, no. There have only been a handful of guys that can literally take any type of route that you give them, and you can strike up the band. Yeah, every time. And you see, hey, you see, he doing that, the band playing. Yeah. And Rick has that accountability. He just needs to get back to that.

49:32Shannon Sharpe:And hopefully he can focus. I think being on the field, it allows you to, like, tunnel visual, Joe. Yeah. It allows you to lock in. You got to compartmentalize. That's the one place. That's what the really good ones are great at it. That's the one place. Doesn't matter what's going on in life. You know, once I get to that stadium, once I get to that grass, it's different. Everything else is left outside. No. No, I didn't know. Somebody said you put Tua down and put Tyreek up. No. I just said he's not Mahomes. He's a good quarterback. He's not Mahomes. And Tyreek's production is tied to a guy that's injury prone.

50:17Shannon Sharpe:Did I lie? How many concussions has he had? How many times did he get injured at the University of Alabama? I'm just giving you facts. I ain't say he a bad player. He a terrible player. That's not what I said. I said Tyreek's production is tied to a quarterback that's injury prone. That's factual. That ain't no, you know, stretching the truth. That's not a lie. That is just factually correct. Yeah. and maybe Tyreek wouldn't have 17, 1800 yards because he got kills and he got other guys. But if you go back and look at it, look at his production. It's 1300. It's 1400. It's 1500. It's 1300. It's 1400.

51:03Shannon Sharpe:It didn't have though. It didn't have 1800 and then 900. Right. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying. Ocho. You know, hey, I mean, you don't want to have no 1 ,600 one year, then 1 ,000. 1 ,200 one year, then 800. Nah, you want to be consistent. Hey, let me be somewhere that consistent. Let me be 11 to 1 ,200, 1 ,300. I can live with that. One year, if I won't have, you know, have one of your bust-out years, I give me two or three 200-yard gains, I'll be on to something. But, nah, I just think the thing is, you know, you're emotional. things didn't go your way you're like damn I'm going to get 100 yards I want to continue my thousand you know yard season Ocho that's going to come to an end damn we're going to miss the playoff that's going to come to an end yeah he got frustrated and it bubbled up that's all it bubbled up made a mistake he probably said it you know I should have handled that differently wish I'd have handled it differently and you know lesson learned and I believe I believe he learned his lesson I do yeah absolutely he's going to bounce back yeah but and I think McDonald says you know let's not focus on who didn't make it as captain let's talk about the guys that did make it as captain they're deserving they're the captains that's who they want to lead Bradley Chubb it's time for Chubb to come out there and you know play like the Chubb, like they gave up the draft picks to get him from Denver.

52:42Shannon Sharpe:It's time for him to play. It's time for him to show. Because it looks like Ocho, they're kind of taking this thing apart. They let, you know, Calais Campbell go. They let Jalen Ramsey go. They let some of the, you know, they let Christian Wilkins go a few years ago. So it seems like, you know, going for it, going for it, going for it. Now they're like. They're getting younger and younger. Getting younger and younger. Yeah. So we'll see how it works out for your Dolphins this year. Shadour Sanders seems to be the talk of college football after Arch Manning's disappointing debut. Fans are calling out the double standard for Arch Manning's pro debut, poor debut, versus Ohio State being excused while Shadour wouldn't have gotten the same grace at Colorado.

53:31Shannon Sharpe:Why don't y 'all call out Arch Manning, Nepo baby, like y 'all did Shadour and Bronny. Ocho, is Arch Manning getting a free pass from the media just because of his last name? Walsh Adour would have been torn apart for the same performance. Oh, yeah. I mean, obviously, I mean, that's the way it's always been. That's the way it's always been. I think watching Dan Orlovsky, Dan made some good excuses up there. He did. Yeah, for Arch and the way Arch played. And obviously, it's just the makeup. The makeup of the media, the makeup is the DNA and in which the way they treat certain quarterbacks, depending on who it is, and they give them grace.

54:10They give them grace all the time. This happens all the time. It does. Some people will turn a blind eye to it and say, oh, that's not true. They'll come up with some damn conspiracy theory. When it's like right there, it's right there in your face.

54:24Shannon Sharpe:Right. In your face. What are you talking about? Yes, they're going to continue to make excuses for him. If he has another bad game, I think obviously now that they played Ohio State, some of the games leading forward, going forward, will be a little bit more easier. And boom, they're going to be right back to talking good about him. And we told you he was a generational talent. They're going to go right back into it. But, I mean, that's neither here nor there. I think he's going to continue to get better. Obviously, opening up a season with a team like that, if it's someone that's been under the helm, been under center for two or three years consistently, as opposed to this, your first year starting against Ohio State?

55:11Man, please.

55:13Shannon Sharpe:Well, but here's the thing, Ocho. Those are the kind of throws, that's who I want to see and make those throws against. So what the hell do you think the NFL is? Every week, same thing. Just think about it, Ocho. if you go out there and you play good against inferior talent, but when the talent is on your level or better and you lay eggs, what does that say about you? Look, it's a one-time thing. It can be a one-time thing, but we can point out the fact that he didn't play well. Yeah. Because he might go on and come back and he might win the Heisman, but two things can be true. He could not have played well against Ohio State, and still play well enough the rest of the season to win the Heisman or win the SEC or whatever the case may be.

56:02Shannon Sharpe:Two things can be true. When Shadour played, I said, Ocho, look, it still bothers me that he bails too much. It still bothers me that he holds on to the ball. It still bothers me. We can give credit. He made some big-time throws, Ocho. I love the dagger throw. I love the throw where he threaded the knee and he led the seven route for the first touchdown. I love the overrouse that he was throwing. We see a lot of those from Brock Purdy. I say, but Ocho still holds on to the ball too long. Too long. Man, I thought you supposed to be Coach Prime Boy. Why? Because my job is to critique and analyze.

56:40Shannon Sharpe:Two things can be true. I can be Chimes Boy and still critique his son and say, there are some things that are concerning for me. Yeah. That's how the job works. You give credit when due. And then when you see something, you're like, okay, yeah, he played well. but there's some things that, hey, let's go ahead and correct these now before they bite you at the most inopportune of times. See, people don't want you to like, if, oh, that's your boy. No. Oh, oh, time your boy. You kill it and not know. That was a poor game on Saturday. Yeah. I mean, was that Friday that they played? That was Friday that Georgia Tech played, right?

57:18Shannon Sharpe:Friday. I said, I said, I said, as soon as we got on, I said, what was that about a minute seven seconds you got two timeouts you throw one pass behind the line of scrimmage the guy tackled you you don't take a time out yeah i said that oh oh oh your boy oh you killing your boy now i remember last year you he could do no wrong no when you do it right you point out the right but when he does wrong you point out the wrong that's what you do yeah be fair and time will tell you and like he has so many times one thing you you won't know you're gonna call it now. He's, I expect that. I'm your boy. You call him your boy.

57:56Shannon Sharpe:So you better call it over to everybody else. And he's absolutely right.

58:06Shannon Sharpe:Do you think Arch would ever fall to the fifth round? Do away with the draft. Man, stop it. Who y 'all tried to kid? Man, stop playing. That ain't happening. That ain't happening. But I can see a scenario where he comes back. Cousin Manning normally four years. Now, obviously, that's not Peyton. That's not Eli. But, you know, they're normally very scripted, very methodical about how they're going to do things, Ocho. Very strategic. And plus, Ocho, his family is not in dire need of anything. Right. A lot of times these families, you know, it's like, bro, mom in the projects. Grandma over here, ain't no food in the refrigerator.

58:59Shannon Sharpe:The house leaking. Come on, bro. Got to get out of here. Yeah. And I understand. I totally understand. Bro.

59:11Shannon Sharpe:I think my brother told the story. the story i think he said on my podcast because he thought about coming out as a junior and they asked him why he didn't come out he said we have been poor for 22 years eight more months wasn't gonna hurt nothing that's a good one he was right hey i had been going to the woods ocho for 19 years use the bathroom huh yes yes sir i had dipped the bucket down in the well, pull it up, pour it in something, take it in the house. I had been running the holes inside the house and putting it in the tin tub, let the sun heat it up, take me a bath in the backyard. Couldn't nobody see it, wasn't nothing but woods.

59:59Shannon Sharpe:Summer was bad because them mosquitoes tear you up, Ocho. I mean, think about it, Ocho, you got to take the rage, try to put your shield around, hurry up, take you a quick bath, because them mosquitoes, boy, they had swords. Man. No. But I understand. I understand. Our job is to get better. He went to Texas because of the success that Sark has with working with quarterbacks. He could have gone anywhere. But he chose Texas for a reason. And it's not by accident. So could I see a scenario where he stays another year? Yes. and we got to look he he didn't beat yours out for the job yours were the was a seventh round pick what what what round did yours get drafted in six to seven

1:00:54right he went he went to the dolphins i forgot what round he went though seven he went seven oh no but i think hold on i think derrick carr was the first the first overall pick and he

1:01:06Shannon Sharpe:couldn't beat Billy Volick out. See if Billy Volick went to Fresno State.

1:01:13Shannon Sharpe:V-O-L-E-K. I think that's Volick.

1:01:27Shannon Sharpe:Derek Carr. Played with the Tennessee Titans. Yeah. I know. Didn't he go to Fresno State?

1:01:40Shannon Sharpe:didn't Derek Carr come behind him? I don't think Derek Carr beat him out.

1:01:48Shannon Sharpe:So

1:01:54it's not, I mean, Joe Burrow transferred,

1:01:58Shannon Sharpe:became the number one pick. Jamison Williams transferred, become a number one pick. Joe Burrow was the number one pick in the entire draft. couldn't get no shine at Ohio State. Let that sink in, Ocho. Yeah, you right. You right. So this notion where he didn't do that, things happen. So you're saying Joe Burrow's not any good because he couldn't beat – I forget the guy. What was the – I think it was the guy that passed away, Ocho. The black guy that got hit. Oh, Dwayne Haskins. Yes, yes.

1:02:38Shannon Sharpe:things happen yeah oh joe vegas has lamar jackson at the back he's back on top for the mvp odds the reigning mvp josh allen and joe burrow are hairs beneath him at plus 600 patrick mahomes rounding out the top four at plus 650 is this the year lamar puts it all together wins mvp and a super bowl i mean it could be the year it could be the year if if if it was going to happen this is the funny thing on when it comes about when it comes to not just Lamar Jackson but Josh Allen and all those other quarterbacks in the AFC it's always coming the same the same same four it's gonna be the same four same four now what Lamar Jackson do we get in the playoffs what Lamar Jackson do we get in the playoffs that's all that matters so we know what you're going to do in the regular season yes you're going to put up crazy numbers yes going to rush for crazy numbers but what lamar jackson whatever lamar jackson we get in the postseason that will be if those odds in vegas come come true that's all they come down to that's and that's all i've said i said i want to see the lamar jackson that's one the mvp or finish second we have yet to see that guy for the totality of the playoffs we've seen it for a game, Ocho.

1:04:02Shannon Sharpe:But we need to see it for the totality because we saw it last year. They didn't turn the ball over. He didn't turn the ball over for like eight, nine games. Right. And then he had two big turnovers and that was, you know, some of that's undoing. Like, look, and I get it. Such a hold on to the ball. Zay Flowers fumbled on the one, but he did give the Chiefs a short field. He got stripped in the pocket. I just need Lamar to be Lamar in the postseason that he was in the regular season. I don't need anything else. I don't need to be I don't need anything else, Ocho. I don't need him to be anything other than what he's shown us for the 17 games in the regular season.

1:04:42Shannon Sharpe:If he's that, if he's that player, can nobody beat the Ravens? Nobody. Nah. Well, I don't know about nobody. Ocho, the man threw 41 touchdowns with four picks. Hold on, hold on. Don't jump on me. Don't jump on me. This is a new season. With everything you just named, it's what he did last year. Now, I'm not saying he can't repeat it, but there's a team he has to deal with in the AFC North. They own, y 'all. Come again? They own, y 'all. Lamar Jackson owned the Cincinnati Bengals. Let me do something. The Ravens, that's your team, huh? Or your supposed-to-be team that you spent two weeks at? Two years.

1:05:26Okay, two years, two weeks is all the same. you want to bet something on that game

1:05:34Shannon Sharpe:Ocho it's kind of hard for you to borrow money when you owe money who huh oh you know hey listen I'm good for it no you ain't good for it when I go to the casino they just give me what I want because they understand Ocho you here oh we know we're going to take care of you what you need what's your money line I'm a file of what you call them on you i'm fine i'll press charges on you i ain't do nothing how you gonna press charges you'll be 5900 and you won't pay hold on hold on hold on is it is it written on paper they heard it oh yeah they got it we got it on paper where's that i didn't sign nothing i'm you got to sign that we got it we got a verbal contract you bet me a verbal as yeah michael parsons and jerry jones had a verbal contract too no no no no no no we got this i showed the tape for the tape your Oh, here it is right here.

1:06:28Shannon Sharpe:This is it. Ocho, I bet you.

1:06:36Shannon Sharpe:All right, guys. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Q and A. And I can't wait to get you third. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy. Hey, fam. When I was watching D-Bo and Joe today, all I could do was look at Debo's arms and think, Lord, he going to kill my poor cousin Ocho, greatest addition to Shea Shea Media. He going to kill who? Ocho. I don't think she understands. Someone that size with that much muscle, they can't move. They can't move. We get so enamored in size and big and strength and lifting all that heavy weight, that'll mean nothing. That'll mean nothing. I'm going to take James Harrison's nose and I'm going to turn it upside down so he can smell his forehead.

1:07:28Like, I'm not playing with him, man. It's like it's getting serious at this point. In February, that's when it's going. It's February. It's going down. Yeah, it's going down. It's going down. Yeah, chat. Make sure all y 'all be there, too. Rob J said, Coach Belichick is going to be all right.

1:07:48Shannon Sharpe:Takes time to learn the system.

1:07:54Shannon Sharpe:frustrated fans this game should have been called the poorly dressed head coaches bowl man y 'all know what y 'all gonna get with coach belichick man y 'all know coach belichick gonna be wearing some every time with no with no sleeves chris baller said you could be the greatest head coach in the world but if you don't have the player that can execute at a high level you're not going to be very good plain and simple chris that is very very true MSQ said, if you put all the best current college football players, no matter their graduating class, on one team, could they beat the current worst NFL team?

1:08:33Shannon Sharpe:No.

1:08:39Shannon Sharpe:I was hyped-headed to UT because he's a Manning quarterback with mobility unlike his unks. Not saying that he'd be like his unks, but hope he balls out since the first road game was against the defending champs. Yeah. Trey Tiner said, Ocho, I heard you call FAMU the best HBCU other than, you might have forgot, North Carolina A &T University, Aggie Pride. Listen, I love North Carolina A &T. I've been there a few times. I've been there with the football team, the coaches. Obviously, the band as well. My daughter had a track meet out there. I forgot the name of that soul food place I got in trouble too.

1:09:16I took all the football players to the soul food place and treated them to eat. it sit right in a plaza in the corner it was really good but the greatest HBCU of all time you know often imitated never duplicated

1:09:29Shannon Sharpe:Savannah State is the illustrious the Tigers Florida A &M Marching 100 the blue and orange Savannah State the SSU Tigers the SSU Tigers oh I thought when you say SSU I thought you was talking about like the Navy be like a ship? No. I would not be a doctor. I tell you the reasons why. I've been a tiger for all my life. I'm going to be a tiger until I die. It's so hard. It's so hard to be a tiger. It's so hard. It's so hard to be an S.S.U. Tiger. Don't play with us, Ocho. We about that. We them. All right. Sound good. Reform Tryhard said, how big is coaching for you in football? It's very big. Just from the outside looking in, Bama was posting videos like they're on Soul Train before the game, and we saw what happened.

1:10:26Shannon Sharpe:That never happened when the man was there a few years ago. Absolutely not. And also when the man ain't there, he had all the players too. Yes. That's the difference. He had all the players. We talk about a great coach. When a great coach has great players, it's easy to be able to execute, which is why Alabama looked like the Alabama we're used to seeing. They don't look like that now because all the players are going in different places. You think about it, Ocho? I mean, he's had 52 first-round draft picks. First round.

1:11:05Shannon Sharpe:Orlando Pignon, if Jerry Jones doesn't bring it to Cowboys, you still think the Cowboys go back-to-back. That would have been very, very interesting. As a matter of fact, Michael Irvin and I were talking about that. Emmitt and I, we have that discussion a lot too. They were loaded, man. They were good. They were really good. We had to be on our best behavior, our absolute best behavior. Absolutely. But Jerry Eagle, we're going to let that happen. Got in the way. Still getting in the way. Yeah. Deshaun Allen said, what's up, Uncle Ocho? My question is, which position has the most players in the Hall of Fame?

1:11:45Shannon Sharpe:if I had to guess, probably quarterbacks. I was just going to say quarterback, probably. Probably. I could be wrong.

1:11:59Shannon Sharpe:I mean, of starting positions, probably tight ends have the fewest. We're not counting special like punters and kickers and things like that, Ocho, returners. Right. But what did I say? safeties.

1:12:22Yeah.

1:12:33Shannon Sharpe:They got the fewest. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you got centers, guards, and all that were considered to the offensive line. Scoobank says, shout out to my birthday twins, January 9th, 1990. We going to Tootsie's. What's up? How you spell it? Yeah. Unc, you want to go with us? Nah, man. Ocho, I got to be on my best behavior, Ocho. I'm sorry. Unfortunately. Listen, listen, listen. Whoa, whoa. We can't do that. What we can't do is we can't go into the shell. We are all human. We all make mistakes. You learn from your mistakes, but you still have to live your life. You have to enjoy yourself.

1:13:17Hey, we on the other side of the mountain. Never forget. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We on the other side of the mountain. Okay? So we still have to live. You could. You could.

1:13:29Shannon Sharpe:I got about eight, nine more months, Ocho. Okay, okay. I'm on probation. I got a probationary period. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Eight, nine more months. You got your little ankle monitor on right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They got me.

1:13:50Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, probably my birthday. Probably my birthday. I should be sitting pretty. Yeah, I'll be sitting pretty. All right. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. We want to thank PrizePix to become our official gambling partner. Thank you so much for believing in Nightcap. Thank you so much for believing in Ocho and I. We really, really appreciate your support. Prize picks. Please, please, thank you. Thank you. Couldn't do it without you. Couldn't do it without you. Appreciate your prize picks. We're going to have some fun this year. Ocho and I, we're going to have some fun.

1:14:25Shannon Sharpe:Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y 'all know who I am. I'm your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp. That is my partner and co-host, Liberty City's own, Madding's Ratings Adjuster, Bengals Ring of Fame Honoree, the former Pro Bowler All-Pro, he's Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson. I want to thank our very, very special guest, Hall of Fame running back, TCU alum, great, LaDainian Tomlinson. Thank you, LT, for joining us, man. LT, he's a great guy. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit that like button and do us all a favor. Go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcasts from.

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1:16:13Shannon Sharpe:That link is pinned in the chat. We've got a new show that just launched under the Shea Shea Media umbrella, the Debo and Joe Show with James Harrison and Joe Hayden. Please go subscribe to their YouTube page, Debo and Joe. They'll be live every Monday, Tuesday, and Friday morning at 11 a.m. Eastern time. Tomorrow is their second episode. So I'm sure they're going to talk about this game. This happened tonight. TCU in North Carolina, TCU 48, North Carolina 14. Coach Belichick's college debut does not get up to the start that he had hoped for. I am up. Ocho, we will see. We're off the next two days.

1:16:55Shannon Sharpe:We're off tomorrow and Wednesday. We will see you Thursday night. Eagles. Thursday. Eagles. Eagles Cowboys, Ocho. Thank you guys for your support. Thank you guys for believing in Nightcap. Thank you guys for supporting me. I greatly appreciate that. We're back Thursday after the game. Peace. Strong hands built America and kept it running for 250 years. Strong hands also keep Copenhagen moving today. Here's to the bravery of linemen, the endurance of truckers, the skills of welders, the traditions upheld by farmers, and all American tradesmen sharing in our work ethic. Copenhagen, celebrating American craftsmanship.

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