Nightcap Hour 2: Unc & Ocho say Daniel Jones is in the MVP conversation, WTF is going on with CJ Stroud?! The guys are joined by Melissa Jefferson-Wooden and TeeTee Terry!

21:03Shannon Sharpe:So let's just say for the sake of argument, okay, he sent you guys a workout. Are they timed? He says, okay, you got, let's just say for the sake of argument, you got 660s. Does he give you a time? Or he says you got 10 120s. Does he give you a time? say, okay, you got to make these 120s and say 12 seconds, 13 seconds, and you got two minutes, three minutes off. So how's a workout like not when you're there, but like when you're on your own, when you're like away from so you guys can come in. I know you're not just getting straight up off the couch and just going driving down Orlando. I'm so serious.

21:37I literally roll straight off the couch like I'm not even. I've been going down to Miami. I'm going to the hole-in-the-wall spots. I'm going to my favorite spots. I'm knocking food down like I'm eating with a grown man. And then I go and go. Like, I literally don't do anything because I've, like, there is so much with my body. Like, my body is so dense. Like, even the first year I was coming to the group, I asked him, hey, coach, is there anything you want me to do before I come to the group? He's like, not really, but you can do, like, some little jogging around the block or something like that.

22:07Yeah, I tried to go jogging around the block. My legs cramped up before I even stepped out the house. So I said, it's the point of me doing anything because I'm just, I'm not, nothing's prepared me for Dennis Mitchell. My body has gotten better, has adjusted to it throughout the years, but it's bad. Like, Ultra, when you come and you see it in person, what I go through with my body, you wouldn't believe unless you dare to witness with your own eyes. I'll be there. TTP going through it. She'll be going through it.

22:39Shannon Sharpe:So, I mean, obviously, at NCAA season, and obviously you have so many more athletes and things of that nature. What makes this workout so difficult? Is it the volume? Is it the intensity? Is it the, is it, yeah, I mean, I mean, because, you know, one time, you know, like we used to, obviously it's not compared to you guys, but we run, let's just say we do 15, 21, 50s, or we do 20, 25, 110s. Okay, that's the volume. Okay, now we might cut that down and say, okay, we're going to do 15, 110. but we got 14 seconds to make the time and then we got 45 seconds rest so we got pretty good volume but we got damn good intensity is it so is that what it is the volume and the intensity or which is just the sure volume of it it's both like okay i will say we get back like the first the first week be rough obviously because both of us is just coming off the couch but uh coach is also like he he be he sees us so he's like all right like you know like let's just get the body back moving but like most of the times so as the week progresses or as the weeks go on like it'll go from just finish the workout to like no I need you to be hitting these times through these splits and all that stuff like if anything I think the I think the thing that makes it the hardest which was the most the biggest challenge for me coming in was when we run like he wants all of our runs to be very consistent so like hey for instance uh like you will have or i won't say we'll have i ain't never ran that say for instance we 600 500 well yeah 500 so like say for instance you know like and i feel like in anybody anybody else's camp like if they have a 500 they'll try to blast the first 100 or first 200 and then like settle in for the next one and then just try to finish hard coming home but coach is like nah if you're gonna start out that fast you need to finish that fast type deal oh hell yeah yeah hell one thing about his coaching is we go through he like to time the hundreds so like melissa we have a 500 if you come through that first hundred at 20 seconds he wants your second hundred be 20 seconds each one he wanted to be 20 seconds obviously the 400 and 500 like the last 200 will probably get a little bit slower but he don't want to coming through at 14 and then now you fade into like 26 that was right oh okay yeah okay okay i'll get out and then it's like i'm fading bad at the end you know so he just like okay tt you don't try to run with the girls today i need you to make your own group and this is the times i need you to hit these are the times i need you to be consistent with and that's something that i've learned throughout the fall training of just trying to get better like that and keep decreasing each week because normally coach have a repeat the same workouts two weeks in a row so like we'll do it the first week don't know what you got until you get to the track and then the next week we know what we got and sometimes he may add an extra set or something to it but your body kind of get used to it because it knows what was coming what what you expect whereas that first week you don't know what to spent what you and for me coming from the NCAA system when we was in spikes the first day we started practice to someone like Dennis Mitchell where you start in the grass for weeks and then you go to the track and you still in flats and then you go to spikes that was something my body had to adjust to um I went from doing so much intensity to doing strength volume and intensity that my body just had to find a way to respond to those situations and be able to adapt to that to that type of training and like I said it's been getting better over the years because where I started from baby with a cramp up everything be cramping up at the same time but it's gotten better over the years still some more stuff to figure out but we gonna figure it out you started from the bottom but now you're here that I mean that that running now people don't understand that I mean like I said we used to do the track workout there's nothing like you guys because we see the guys that actually ran track and we're looking at the time they ran like oh no we couldn't do with two of those yeah they do we be we be done and you guys to be so how long does a workout normally take hour two hours it depends on us yeah we bsing around and we lollipacking and we just talking and kiki ken it'll be pretty long but if we in and trying to be in and out do our drills on time it'd be pretty quick because we already it'd be short workouts yeah um especially in the fall yeah especially in fall training and like we have like repeat 100s well those doges hundreds they be quick but they be deadly you know that's tt's kryptonite for sure i i just had to learn to deal with him because when i came in the group and was injured that's the only workout i could do oh i hate him and i just yeah i so you hate to repeat oh i hate him bad oh no he'll be trying that's how he tried to get me.

27:45I need you to finish. I need you to lead this last one knowing I'm dead in the back.

27:50Shannon Sharpe:I don't even know what I'm saying. Hey, Coach, you know a predator were attacked from the back. I got to make sure everybody's safe up front. So let me go on the hang back.

28:02Shannon Sharpe:Ladies, I just wanted to say Nightcap family, we're extremely proud of you. Melissa, what you've been able to do. Congratulations. We love you guys. We try to show as much support as we can. the track and field family. TT, a unbelievable second leg run. You did the same thing in Paris. You did it again in the World Championships. Congratulations. Hey, Ocho and I, we're expecting a low time. We're expecting, you know, 1080. Hey, we're expecting a 10-cent. We're going below 1080. We done did it. Okay, so we can expect a sub 1080. Look, T.T., if anybody is long overdue for a sub-10A performance, it is T.T.

28:44Terry. So I'm excited for next year for her.

28:48Shannon Sharpe:I'm excited for both of you guys. I don't know what's really going on. T.T., are you going to do indoor season? Are you doing indoors? No, we don't really do indoors since the season be so long. And then also with Coach, we just never really did indoor. Like my first time ever doing indoor was in college, and then my last indoor was college. Coming from South Florida, you don't really have much indoor meets or any indoor tracks at all. Besides, they just built one in Gainesville. But I was never a big indoor person. I just did what I needed to do in college and then never touched it again. But I am interested in doing it at least one of the years while I'm professional just to see where I'm at.

29:26Shannon Sharpe:So, okay, MJ, give us your social media handles, where they can find you on IG, where they can find you on X, where they can find you on Facebook. Same thing for you, TT. Okay, Instagram, it's at underscore underscore Melissa J 19. And on X is at Melissa Janae 21. And Facebook is Melissa Janae. Okay. Me for Instagram is can only be me underscore underscore. And then on Twitter is TT Terry underscore. And then on Facebook is just TT Terry. you know it could have been just tt terry on what happened was so i started building my fan base in high school and i used to can't only be me underscore underscore and then when i was going to change it i ended up getting verified and then once you get verified you try to change you got to do all this documentation a lot of people love the can't only be me underscore underscore and that's all they knew so i didn't want to change it on my og t babies and then they confused trying to follow me so what i did was i just put 20 shantiti terry in my bio so if you do search my name it is still taking my page yeah all right well ladies congratulate go ahead go ahead i just want to say uh tt also has a children's book okay tt's world adventures that she made for the little t babies um and then she also has a foundation tell me about your foundation, girl?

30:55Shannon Sharpe:Tell us about it. Yeah, so I do have a children's books, T.T. Terry's Real Adventure, available on Amazon or on my website if you want an autographed copy. And then I have my nonprofit and foundation, Starting Blocks for Dreams Incorporation and Starting Blocks for Dreams Foundation. The nonprofit is a 501c3, so if you donate to it for the companies or the big timers, it is a tax write-off. But basically the mission is to provide services and resources to socioeconomically challenged talented youth by providing them services through community support initiatives, educational programs, and just pouring back into the community.

31:33I feel like that aspect is missing these days for the young athletes. When I was growing up, it took a village to help me get to the level that I am today. The days my parents couldn't even make track meets or even go out the state with me. I had the coaches to step in. I had people to step in and purchase my packages or purchase my uniforms and I feel like a lot of that is missing for the youth today they're so talented but they just don't have the resources and falling short of being able to achieve their goals achieve their dreams so I started that this year um and I'm in this off season that's gonna be my main focus is getting things up and running and scheduled on how I want to um go into next year to start giving back um I want to start locally in Miami giving back to my hometown and then eventually venture off to other states and other countries and other areas.

32:19Shannon Sharpe:Well, congratulations, ladies. Melissa, congratulations on a great season. Great world championships. TT, congratulations. I mean, hey, do you be running the hell out of those relays? We're proud of you. America's proud of you. Nightcap is extremely proud of you. Ladies, stay safe. Good luck next year. And come back and talk to us again when we do this thing all over. This is going to be a real current theme because I'm expecting you guys to win a lot more races, a lot more medals. So congratulations, ladies, and thanks for joining Nightcap. Thank you. Have a good one, guys. Melissa Jefferson Wood and T.T.

32:57Shannon Sharpe:Terry. Man, that was unbelievable. You know T.T. from the crib, man? Yeah, she said she was from Miami, Ocho. Oh, she went to Miami Northwestern. Teddy Bridgewater? Yeah. Yeah, you know, yeah, okay. Yeah, we breed them down here. Yeah. It was great. I mean, Melissa had a great season. She did something that only Shelly and Frazier Price hadn't done since 2013. She won the 100 to 200 and won the four-by-one goal. TT run an outstanding leg. She's been on three world championship gold medal winning teams and the Olympics in Paris last year. So congratulations to all the ladies that participated in this, that brought the goal home.

33:43Shannon Sharpe:Guys, same thing. Hey, Kenny, Kristen Coleman, Courtney, Noah, congratulations. Hey, we almost had a clean sweep today. The women did an outstanding job in the 4x4. Obviously, Sid ran an outstanding leg. The men wasn't quite able to pull it off today. Botswana ended up nipping us at the wire, but it was great. It was one of the great 4x4s that you'll ever see. South Africa, hey, they coming. The world got some up and coming 400s, but we'll be back. We'll be back. But congratulations, lady, to all the – Hey, Ocho, we won – we got like 26 medals. We won like 16 goals. Yeah, we good. We mollywhopped them.

34:26Shannon Sharpe:Hey, listen. Now, Jamaica, don't you jump in the hair time because, see, when y 'all win, y 'all don't – oh, we beat y 'all. Y 'all got 340 million. When we mollywhopped y 'all, oh, we all show country. We ain't got but 2 million. People ain't trying to hear all that. Because when y 'all win them gold medals, it ain't like all of a sudden y 'all lost some population. You're the same population. You got two and a half, three, four million people. So go ahead and take the L's. And Jamaica, just so you know, we have reached out to some of your athletes and asked them to come on. We have not heard back.

35:04Shannon Sharpe:I don't want to put nobody's name out there who we reached out to. but we did reach out to some of the Jamaicans, some of the ones that you really know, and we asked them would they like to come on. We have not heard back. So we take anybody. You don't just have to be an American to come on, although we do like to show support for our own. That's what we do. We'll take the Jamaicans. We'll take someone from the Dutch. We'll take Tabogo. We'll take Femkebo. Hey, if you can speak English, you'll understand what you're not saying. it. Come on. Hey, in that effect, if you speak Spanish, French, Portuguese, whatever it is, I speak all...

35:43Shannon Sharpe:We have to turn the thing on to get to interpret. I can translate for you. Don't worry about it. Ocho, you and I barely speak English, so let's just stick to that right there. Let's just stick to that. we ain't got no interpreter that can speak Portuguese or Spanish or Mandarin or anything like that we want to show the world of track and field love and support because we great we do we are big fans of track and field obviously we're going to show love and support to our Americans and not just the sprinters hey hell I'd like to get Ryan Krauser I'll take Valerie Allman I'll take Cole Hawker hey hey we'll take any of them guys that medal and because we want to show you our appreciation and that we greatly greatly appreciate what you've done for the country as far as winning medals and we know the time and effort and energy that it takes to be great to be the best in the world at something and we want to give you your flowers and let our let our chat let our fans the followers see you you know what i do like too um about those that run at the highest level on here is the fans or the people in the chat or the people that are watching on tv they get to see the finished product they get the end product but they never get to hear the stories about the work that's put in throughout a long season to get to where they are now to understand why they're running the time that they are running so i like hearing tt and melissa explain the workouts and how difficult the training is and and how it's so difficult working with dennis mitchell we don't want there's nothing you can do so there's no point in preparing to get to him you might be just roll off the couch and just keep that working.

37:31Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, it is. The unknown. The unknown workouts are always tough. It's amazing how the body works. Because, like, if I go into the gym, I mean, when I used to do CrossFit Ocho, I like to get there and see the workout on the board. Then I can visualize it, what I'm going to do. But if I got there late, if I was running a few minutes late and just warmed up and got into it and didn't really know what to expect, the workout seemed so much harder. It was like my body was compared. Like, okay, Sheldon, you know, you got 50 kettlebell swings. You got a 500 meter roll. You got a 30 cal back ride. You got 15 squat to press.

38:09Shannon Sharpe:You got, you know, 15 pull-ups. You got, you know, it's like my mind's like, okay. Okay, that's what I got. That's what I got. What was that? It was CrossFit? Yeah. Oh, hell no. I mean, sometimes, don't you go there and you just have a 5 ,000 you'd have a 5 ,000 meter roll or you You have a 10 ,000 meter row or you have a hundred or 200 cal bike ride. But you know, your boy, before you, before your boy got there, Hey, your boy used to row. Yeah. You can still do it. Oh yeah. I can still row. Yeah. I still row. I still that. Cause that's really rowing. And I do the assault bike. I once did 50 cows in a minute.

38:50Shannon Sharpe:Anybody do CrossFit. You know, that's a good time. Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Shea was hell when he was well, you know, row. my best is like in the thousand meters I could do like 257 258 I think for 5 ,000 I think the best I've done is like 17 minutes wait so you don't do CrossFit no more? I'm trying to find a gym I like to do the classes I don't really be doing what I like to do the class because I ain't really trying to do all that I ain't trying to do what the CrossFit games I like it broken down in the class, there are 25, 30 people and we all do it. Wait a minute. Whoa, you cooking. You cooking. Now you just gave me an idea.

39:33Shannon Sharpe:What? We need to do CrossFit competition. Duos. Me and you competing against other people. Man! Ocho. First of all, Ocho. I can't go below 90 degrees in the squat because I don't want my hip to pop up. We have a spotter. But it's a no squat. so I, like I said, I can do the swings. I can do the snatches. I can do squat depressed to a certain degree. I don't go below 90. I can do pull-ups. I can, you know, I can't do kipping pull-ups because my shoulders, I got broken collarbones and all that car scar tissue in my shoulder. But when it comes to the cardio aspect of it, when it comes to a role, you do it, uh, let's just say you do 250 or 400 or 500, 750 ,000, you know, I can roll.

40:22Shannon Sharpe:I can do the assault bike. You know, 30, 50, 100 cals. I can do the ERG bike. I can do that. When it comes to the cardio stuff, I can do. I can do the swings. I can do the push-ups. I can do the renegade roll. I can do things like that. I can do all that. Yeah, we're going to do that. We're going to compete. We're going to find... We're going to compete. We're going to compete against somebody. I'm going to put an application for me and you to be on Survivor. Survivor? Yeah. Oh, boy. Ocho, when you think time we got time to be on Survivor and do this? No, we're going to be. I mean, Survivor ain't nothing but a week of filming.

41:05Shannon Sharpe:No, it's longer than that, Ocho. Well, we're going to make it short because we're going to be the first ones about that. Yes.

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45:48Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, okay. Now you got a point. Now you make a very, now you make a very, very valid point because we definitely going to be up out of that thing quick. Quick. The Colts, Colts beat the Titans 41-20. Colts end of the week tied for the lead in yards per play, ranked second in offensive expected points added. That trend continued today. Indiana Jones looks like a different guy. After going seven for nine, 130 yards and a touchdown on passes thrown, at least 10 yards downfield today. He's now completing 65 % of such throws this season. He completed 50 % of them in his first six seasons. Colts have punted just once this season.

46:28Shannon Sharpe:They scored on 77 % of the offensive possessions. That's the highest mark for any team in the first three games in the past 45 seasons. The Colts are one of four teams to not commit a turnover this season. Indiana Jones is in the MVP discussion that's crazy it's unbelievable it's unbelievable how Daniel Jones is playing obviously the New York Giants wrote him off all the things that were said to him through the media it's great to see it's great to see that the Indianapolis Colts have found their quarterback again it's still only week three but what they've done so far he might be the answer. He might be the quarterback that's been missing since Andrew Luck and since Peyton Manning left.

47:19I'm excited for them. I'm excited.

47:23Shannon Sharpe:Because they're so efficient offensive, their defense is well rested when they get on the field. So here's that burning out. Think about it. They got one punt in three games. So that means the offensive possession of the ball, the defense, when they come out there, they're well rested. So now all of a sudden we can pin our ears back. We're not tired. It's not like, hey, we just got off the field after giving up a field goal or a touchdown, and the offense turns the ball over, and we're right back on the field. There's none of that going on. So now when they get on the field, they can hunt. Yeah.

47:52Shannon Sharpe:They can hunt. That damn punter just collecting a check. Yeah, he getting free money. He getting free money. That guy, hey, we talking about Danny Dimes, man, Jonathan Taylor done came out the gate swinging this season, boy. Yeah, for sure. My goodness. Boy, he's toting that rock. Jesus Christ. I mean, he's done it before, so we shouldn't be surprised. Also, the Bucs beat the Jets 29-27. The Bucs' defense went from a dominant fourth-quarter meltdown to running two touchdowns with a third coming on special teams block field goal returned by touchdown by Will McDonald, the fourth, giving the Bucs a one-point lead with 149.

48:30Shannon Sharpe:But for the third time this season, the Bucs managed to come from behind winning the final minutes of the game. 3-0, they've reached 3-0, excuse me, for the first time since 2005. Buka, one-hand catch in the first half, woke Tafel out of an early funk, led to a Mike Evans touchdown. The early offensive rookie of the year favorite finish with six catches, 85 yards, including that one-handed, a big 28-yard catch and run on the game-winning drive. Baker Mayfield has three game-winning drives in the fourth quarter this year. and look, he said this game was special. You didn't know about it. I forgot that Steve Wilkes, Steve Wilkes used to coach at Savannah State, so I know Wilkes.

49:16Shannon Sharpe:I forgot that he was the head coach of Carolina. He's the DC of the Jets, but he was the one Baker say he cut me when I was in Carolina. So it was a little personal for me. It was a little personal. I think Hassan Redick is there. The Jets got rid of him. So he's like, yeah, yeah. But I thought Baker did a great job. I forgot. Nobody, because nobody – I don't think – I didn't read anything where anybody talked about it. So he did a great job of bottling it up. Say, hey, I'll talk about this after the game. Baker after the game said D coordinator Steve Wilkes was the one that cut me in Carolina.

49:51Shannon Sharpe:So a lot of stuff was personal today. Hassan Redick, a former Jet. A lot of people. So – but Baker's playing unbelievable. He played unbelievable again. He made three weeks in a row. They've needed Baker to come up big, and he's done exactly that. So another guy that, you know, where it's all said, he's going to be in the MVP discussion. They keep winning, and I think they're going to win that division. But Baker's playing extremely well. Now, we've got to see Mike Evans. He went out with a hamstring injury. But at some point in time, they're going to get Chris Godwin back. I don't know if he – I was keeping one eye on the game and watching, you know, three or four other games.

50:30Shannon Sharpe:But eventually he's going to come back and be full strength, and he'll be able to play. So maybe he can come back in and hold a fort down until Mike Evans comes back if Mike is going to miss some times. But Ibuka. He's the real deal, huh? Something about the Ohio State receivers. He is the real deal. Now, I think the Bucs probably feel a lot more confident that, okay, Mike Evans is down. You know what? You make Ibuka, he can come into that spot and still be efficient and know what Mike Evans does. I'm not saying he's Mike Evans. I'm just saying he's played so well. What he's done in training camp, sits again drafted.

51:08Obviously, he's put in work the first three games of the season, and he looks good doing it. I think they're going to be all right at the receiver position.

51:15Shannon Sharpe:He looks unbelievable. He looks unbelievable. Hey, man, did you see B. DeVay doing the aura? Nah, I missed it. He did it. Oh, yeah. I missed it. What, he got a sack? Nah, hold on. Oh, Jamel Dean got a pick six. Yeah. And so, yeah, he was at the front of the boat. He was doing his little thing. Oh, man, I missed it, man. Somebody clipped that and sent it to me on Twitter, man. Vita Vita. The aura. Man, Vita Vita know he can't stand on that boat. That boat capsizing.

51:53Shannon Sharpe:But it was great to see, but you got to give Baker's credit. Baker played unbelievable. There ain't no way around it. He's making the plays. He's finally found a home. He's found somewhere. Beg about to get a big contract while you're bulljabbing after the season. Yeah. He only signed a three-year deal. Oh, that's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. Beg about to get a monster. Yeah. Beg about to get 50 plus. He deserve it, huh? Deserve it. He deserve it. Deserve it. He definitely does. And maybe that's what he needed because he went to Texas Tech, had an issue, walked on to University of Oklahoma.

52:36Shannon Sharpe:He used all that for motivation. Yeah. Maybe that's what he needed. Maybe Cleveland did him a favor. He didn't realize at the time. We don't realize things at the time. Carolina did him a favor. Right. Got him here. Got him in a better spot. Perfect. Sometimes, you know, you're not going to move so God will move you. Because he knows you won't move on your own. He'll make it say, you ain't got no choice. You ain't got no choice. They don't want you over there, so you got to go. I like that. And look at what he's been able to do since he's been in Tampa, since he's found a home, since he's found an organization, Jason Light, Todd Bowles.

53:19Shannon Sharpe:Believe in him. They'll allow him to be Baker Mayfield. He can't be anything other than Baker Mayfield. Some people call it cocky. Some people call it arrogant. Call it whatever you want to. But they allow him to be him and allow him to lead in the way that he knows how to lead. Everybody doesn't lead the same. Everybody doesn't play the same. Everybody doesn't have the same mannerisms when placed in the same situation. They allow him to be him. Therefore, they get the best out of him. And it's been unbelievable to watch. It's been unbelievable to watch. Because even in his best, he didn't look like this in Cleveland.

53:53No, not at all But

54:00Shannon Sharpe:What'd you say Ocho? Yeah, I was gonna say it Daniel Jones ain't look like this in New York No No, he didn't But you get somewhere they believe in you Ocho And sometimes all it takes Is somebody to believe in you You want somebody to believe in you Yeah, I believe in myself But if I believe in myself and you're not giving me the opportunity Or you keep trying to tell me I need to be somebody that I'm not Not, yeah I can't I'm trying to find Oh here it is right here

54:31Shannon Sharpe:Tyrod Tyrod played well He was 26-36 197 Two touchdowns He did throw an interception Baker was 19-29 233 One touchdown Only got sacked once They ran the ball 34 times 422 yards

54:50So We'll see how

54:52Shannon Sharpe:how long Mike Evans is down and how that impacts the offense. But I think if they were to get Chris Godwin back, I think they'll be just fine. They have Sterling Shepard, who was a starter receiver for the Giants, who, you know, seems to be coming back. I think he tore his ACL a couple years ago. He finally starts to look like the Sterling Shepard that he was early in his career at the Giants. He's starting to look like that guy again. So, obviously, Bucky Irving and Rashard White being able to run the football, that definitely helps their running game. But all that's fighting good. It's Baker and that defense that's going to – Baker throwing the ball in that defense.

55:36Shannon Sharpe:Todd Bowles, we know Todd Bowles can call defense. Oh, yeah. And he got guys, Levante Davis playing well, Vita Vea, Jamel Dean, and Antoine Winfield Jr. he can make plays he's all over the field he's a hard player Jesse

55:59Shannon Sharpe:let's be real Tampa's the cream of the crop in the NFC side absolutely I wish there was something I wish there was something Ocho Pennies need to get that thing together and they cut Youngway Koo they might need to get him back Have you left yet? Come back. Hey, man, kicking is very difficult, huh? It's a lot of pressure. It's a lot of pressure on them kickers, man. There's a lot of pressure on everybody out there. Yeah, but I think kickers are a little bit more so. Listen, the game is on the line with your leg, on your foot. That's a whole lot of pressure, man. Well, we don't have pressure on us to get your ass in position so you can have the pressure on your leg, your foot.

56:47Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, you're right. You're right about that. Quarterback got pressure. He got to throw the ball. Offensive line got to have pressure because they got to make sure they got to get beat and hit the guy in the back and then fumble. We got to pressure. We got to make sure we catch the ball and not pop it up in there and get picked off. So everybody dealing with pressure. Everybody got to deal with something. Bring your funky ass out there and kick that ball through the upright. Well, listen, the Falcons, Arthur Blank, if you need your kicker, if you need your consistent kicker, you got one right here that you never miss.

57:17Shannon Sharpe:And, I mean, they ended up taking Penix out and put First Cousins in. That ain't good, Ocho. Hold on. Hold on. See, that's one of the few games I couldn't see. I was watching about – He was bad. Penix was awful today. Was that bad? He was terrible. Terrible. Capital T. Damn. One game. One game. One game. It wasn't that – hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. It was that bad where they had to put goddamn Kirk in? It was bad. Ocho, he was awful. Jesus Christ. What the hell was? He was underthrowing. He was throwing picks. He was just like, he was all over the place. It was not good. It was not good today, Ocho.

58:08Shannon Sharpe:As a matter of fact, let's go ahead and talk about it. The Panthers beat the Falcons 30 to nothing. The last time the Falcons beat somebody 30 to nothing, it was Atlanta Falcons. They shut him out week 17. Carolina put the clamps on the Falcons. 11 quarterback pressures through three quarters. Flummoxed Michael Penix Jr. On a very ineffective day, Penix was 18 of 36, 172 yards, two interceptions, including the game-changing pick that Shea Smith-Wade gave Carolina a 17-point lead. He threw one so late in the flat. It went the other way, huh? it wasn't good today Ocho it wasn't good he was all over the place he was throwing it high, he was throwing it low he was throwing it behind him it was not good today Raheem I thought did a great job just say son come on over here you're not going to get it back today so just come on over here and just watch for the rest of the day damn yeah it was bad Ocho and we thought the Falcons are going to have a high-powered offense, Ochoa.

59:15Shannon Sharpe:They got B. John Robinson. I thought, too. They got

59:22Shannon Sharpe:what's the guy, the receiver from USC? Drake London. Drake London. And they got Kyle Pitts. Mooney. Mooney. And like I said, B. John. They got Algier. Ray-Ray McLeod. Yeah, yeah, Ochoa. They got a whole lot of weapons. not to be, I mean, obviously to be putting up a donut. Raheem said that was an emotional win we had last week. We ride that emotional roller coaster. Today, we hit an all-time low. I mean, think about Ocho. To get shut out in the game? Yeah. In today's game? You know who they play, right? Carolina. Yeah, they play the Panthers. What you talking about? I told you they wanted to ask my team to watch out for.

1:00:06I told you now. You listen to me when I tell you now. I'm telling you. Keep pounding, y 'all. Keep pounding. Hey, Bryce Young, I see you, boy. Hey, Bryce Young.

1:00:16Shannon Sharpe:We got to have a conversation. Oh, shit, what happened? The Texans dropped to 0-3. The offense struggled again, scoring only 10 points. It's the third straight game in which the offense fell short of 20 points. C.J. Stroud led the unit game 119 yards of offense through three quarters, and now the Texans find themselves three games behind the Colts, two games behind the Jags, and the AFC. C.J. Stroud has not thrown for 250 yards in the game since week 11 last year. Ochoa, we got to have a conversation now. I mean, when you say have a conversation, now. What's going on with C.J. Stroud? Oh, okay, okay.

1:00:55I have no idea. I have no idea.

1:01:04Slump? Maybe?

1:01:07Shannon Sharpe:A two-year slump? Because last year, because remember how he looked at his rookie year, everybody said everybody looking for CJ Stroud. And then last year. And now he picked right up where he left off from last year. Yeah. I'm not sure. I'm not sure what the issues are. I'm not sure what the issues are. Is he rushing things? Is he processing it the same way he did his first year? Have teams, now that they have film on him, are they able to confuse him and – kind of make him indecisive when it comes to his decision-making as a quarterback, I'm not sure. I'm not sure exactly what's going on. I mean, when I watch him play, I think it's something.

1:01:51Shannon Sharpe:He don't look the same like he did his rookie year. That's for damn sure. What do you think it is? I mean, he had 10 points today, Ocho. He was 25-38, 204, one touchdown, two interceptions.

1:02:12I know the quarterback gets the blame for most of the things, but you think is it more than just him and Joe?

1:02:20Shannon Sharpe:He getting credit for most of the things good too, don't he? We never say, is it him or you think it's somebody else? No, we give him credit. He's pulling the trigger.

1:02:34Shannon Sharpe:He's got to play better. I don't know what me personally, I don't know what's going on. I just know he has not played well. I mean, he played well here or there. But this is not the guy that we saw everybody lauded over and raved about his rookie year. He's not that guy. He hasn't been that guy for an extended period of time. And the question is, I need somebody to help me understand why. What is it? Because as far as I know, he's focused. I mean, you know.

1:03:08damn

1:03:11Shannon Sharpe:who they play next week Ash I just need to watch that game I think I need to just watch that game give me some insight

1:03:22I mean

1:03:23Shannon Sharpe:offensive line not protected him they play the Vikings the Titans they play the Titans my bad I mean how long you think before Tank Dale come back he ain't come back this year God damn it. So ACL dislocated his knee. That thing was wrecked, man. Hold on. We got Nick Chubb. We got Joe Mixon coming back in another week. Nico Collins had eight for a buckle four and a touchdown. Dalton Schultz had five for 39. Christian Kirk had three for 25. Christian Kirk is going to round in shape. He's been, you know, he's kind of been Nick. That's right. Give me one more weapon. One more weapon. it shouldn't be this bad though they uh and the game was there for the taking they could have easily won this game they had 19 rushes for 87 yards he got to do a better job protecting the football that's one thing he's got to do yeah

1:04:28Shannon Sharpe:uh they got the Titans

1:04:33Shannon Sharpe:at home at Baltimore at Seattle 49ers at home, Broncos at home, Jags at home, at Titans, Bills at home, at Colts, at Chiefs.

1:04:50Shannon Sharpe:So it ain't going to get no easier. Hey, is it O-line play? He getting killed back there?

1:05:01Shannon Sharpe:He got sacked today two for 20. He got some pressure on him. Yeah, but you know what that does to you, huh? Getting hit over and over and over, it started to rattle you. You started to speed things up. You don't see the feel like you should. You don't process things, go through your reads the way you normally would. I don't know. Listen, I think they need to add another weapon. I think they need to add another weapon to take some of that pressure off of CJ so he's not trying to do so much.

1:05:38Shannon Sharpe:and in this game Travis Hunter played more defensive snaps 41 than offensive snaps 35 for the first time I thought he'd be better starting on the defensive side and then plug plays in but hey he made a nice play real nice play on oh yeah he felt like he was going to cut back inside he spun up out of there yeah Yeah, but I'm trying to put my finger on it. What is it with CJ?

1:06:13Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe we put too much expectations on him

1:06:18Shannon Sharpe:because of the season that he had his rookie year, Ocho. Maybe we expected a little bit too much after his first year. But he did that. He had that outstanding rookie season. He was the guy that was like, man, I don't know if we'd ever – if we're talking about – I don't know if we'd ever seen a guy play that well in his rookie season. That's what we was talking about. He did that. He was balling, boy. He was balling. He balled. He balled out. You see, this is the same thing I said about Malik Neighbors. He was great his rookie year. Touchdowns, catches, yards. Yeah, well, it's easy when they don't have that film on you.

1:06:59It's easy when you're a rookie and defensive coordinator. It's like, I'm not making no covers adjusted to based on where you lined up. Who the hell are you? Oh, now we have film on you. Now you arrived. The point of being great and being good at your job is when they know you're coming and you still get the job done. That's where it counts. It's easy to surprise somebody when you're a rookie, but can you continue to do it year in and year out and be consistent at it? That's the problem.

1:07:29Shannon Sharpe:And the thing is that CJ is expectations now. Yeah. You have expectations. Out the roof. You look at that team. You have Will Anderson Jr. You got Danelle Hunter. You got Stingley Jr. You got Nico Collins. Bro, you got expectations. They expect you guys to win the division, to go in the playoffs, make a deep run. That's the expectations that you did based on what you did your rookie year. Right. So this is what you've done. and this is what you want. You want those level of expectations. Absolutely. Because if you're not a good player, you don't have expectations. And for you to have the kind of expectations because of the way you played and the kind of the team they have around you, yeah, they can get better offensive line play.

1:08:17Shannon Sharpe:But CJ hadn't played well in a while. Consistently. Yeah, he have a game here or there. But consistency is the thing that makes us who we are when we're dealing with professional sports. is the consistency. It's the game in and game out. Everybody, no, you're not going to pass for 300 yards every single game. You're not going to throw two, three touchdowns. But it's the consistent play. He's been very, very inconsistent. He's been up and down, up and down. And he's going to have to find a way to level this thing off and get some calm. But I'm surprised if you would have told me that he was going to play like this start of the season.

1:08:55Shannon Sharpe:I wouldn't have believed it, Ocho. I wouldn't have believed it. Absolutely. Steelers beat the Patriots 21-14. Patriots committed five turnovers and an unofficial six after being stopped on fourth down in the final minute. Drake May lost a fumble through a pick. Ramondre Stevenson coughed it up two fumbles. One at the goal line. Both players turned the ball over inside the Pittsburgh two-yard line. May has also thrown two more passes that could have been picked that were dropped by the Steelers. The last time the Patriots lost four fumbles in a game was against the Cleveland Browns in 1992 when Bill Belichick was the coach of Cleveland.

1:09:29Shannon Sharpe:The last time they had five turnovers in a game, Mike Braver was on the field with them week 13, 2008, also against the Steelers. Aaron Rodgers was pressured only four times, wasn't sacked on 23 pass attempts. Rodgers passed his former teammate, Brett Favre, number four all-time in touchdown passes with 510. Now Rodgers only trails Peyton Manning, 539, Drew Brees, 571, and Tom Brady, 649. Yeah, I think Tom Brady's on the safe. Yeah. That was an ugly game today. It was good. It was. That was an ugly game today. But the Patriots, bro, I mean, Ocho, they fumbling the ball like two yards like in. Ball ended up going in the end zone.

1:10:18You know what? He wouldn't have been back in the game if Bill was still there. Oh, no, no, no, no. Turn the ball over? Oh, come on over here and sit with me real quick. Come on over here and sit with me. He do not play that. Now, that's taking points off the board. You points him?

1:10:40Shannon Sharpe:Commanders beat the Raiders 41-24. Marcus Mariota was the most efficient running and passing the ball, 40 yards rushing, 207 yards passing, in place of Jayden Daniels due to injury. But the Commanders made big play after big play. Debo Samuel opened the game with a 69-yard kickoff return to set up his first score. Punt returner Jalen Lane returned the punt 90 yards for a touchdown. Jeremy Nichols broke a couple of tackles on a 60-yard touchdown run. Terry McLaurin, 59-yard catch down to the one-yard line, set up another touchdown. And wide receiver Luke McCaffrey had a 42-yard reception cap scoring drive.

1:11:19he

1:11:22Shannon Sharpe:it was big play after big play after big play and the Raiders seem like y 'all want another big play? Go ahead. You can have it. You can have it. But they look good without Jalen. I'm not saying Marcus Mariota there's no threat but that's what you want. That's the kind of performance that you want to have when your backup comes in there Ojo. You don't want to struggle. Especially a team like the Raiders you want to go ahead and put them away And they did that. They did what they were supposed to do. So they won that ball game. Seahawks beat the Titans 44-13. Seahawks ran up 38 points in the first half.

1:11:58Shannon Sharpe:Seemingly scored every time they touched the ball, including on special teams. Seattle did not punt the football until the fourth quarter.

1:12:08Shannon Sharpe:44-13. Oh, the Saints. Seahawks beat the Saints. Hey, the Saints back. are we counting that yeah I guess we got to I know it's an NFL team I know it's an NFL game but there's certain games you look at on your schedule and you just go ahead and mark we're going to mark this off yeah we're going to mark this off ahead of time

1:12:36Shannon Sharpe:alright Ocho we're going to get out here on this when it's time for our final segment of the evening it's time for Q and A oh yeah

1:12:48It's almost 2 o 'clock. I get three hours of sleep before I go to the gym. I done got big.

1:12:55Shannon Sharpe:Baba Patel, hey, Tocho, how about them Bengals? Come on. Hey, don't do that. Don't do that. I've already talked about us loose, and I already said we got belted ass. I done said everything. I done praised the Vikings fans. And did. I done praised the Minnesota fans. I done praised Isaiah Rogers, who I need a jersey from. I don't need no extracurricular activity out of you. I don't need that. A XXX cop sanity saying, who they? Who they? Who they got their butts kicked? Skull. It's been 588 days, and Unc still ain't got the money, Ocho. Got to catch them hands. Ocho, they say you got to catch them hands.

1:13:34Yeah, one thing about it, boy, these hands registered, man. So just depending on how you want it, how you want it, let me know.

1:13:41Shannon Sharpe:She'll be saying we need 5 ,900 people to donate a dollar since Ocho will never pay you back and this is towards the balance Ocho just pay me my money man Hey I told you the people on here they talk about I ain't paid you back and they done been here and watched me and witnessed me tell you PayPal, Apple Pay Zelle, Cash App but you don't want to download nothing Josiah Trump I told you to pay Shelly and you won't do that. Why do people say without weapons Purdy can't win games and that his weapons behind him that support him but with Holmes we're seeing the same thing and he has a top defense.

1:14:32Wait who has a top defense?

1:14:38uh

1:14:39Shannon Sharpe:Kansas City top defense

1:14:48so

1:14:48Shannon Sharpe:if I were to switch places if I took if I took Brock Purdy and I placed him in Kansas City the past two years and I take Patrick Mahomes and I put him in San Francisco the past two years. Who do you think has a better record? So I'm going to give Mahomes Debo. I'm going to give him Ayuk. You got hurt. I'm going to give him Jennings. I'm going to give him Kittle. I'm going to give him Christian McCaffrey. I'm going to give him Trent Williams, that offensive line. Now I'm going to put Purdy in Kansas City.

1:15:29Shannon Sharpe:No Rasheed Rice. Well, he get Richie Rice his rookie year, but then Richie got hurt early. And then, you know, I'm going to give him Sky Moore. I'm going to give him Tony. I'm going to give him that running game, that offensive line. I think you see why. Yeah. Stan Cloudy say, showing love from Center Texas, Tyreek Hill and the Chiefs organization need to seriously put ego and arrogance to the side and reunite. Well, you know, Miami's kind of looking at the best deal. Who's going to give us the best deal? Yeah. Who's going to give us the, you know, the higher of the draft picks or the more of the draft picks?

1:16:13Shannon Sharpe:We'll have facts. Bingo lose. It's all on Ocho. He hyped them up like a baddie at Nobu. And we had to watch that. Yeah, you hyped them up, Ocho. You did that. We'll be back. That's all I can say. We'll be back. Rayquan Howard said, hey, Uncle Ocho, I have two things to say. We can't say foot or ball. This evening is Indiana Jones legend growing. Love the show and the nightcap family. Who that nation? Yeah, Indiana Jones is definitely growing. Yeah. You keep playing like that. Shady Luke, Uncle Ocho, did y 'all see Jalen getting at the OC on the sidelines before the comeback? Hey, he's like, hey, give me a chance to throw the ball.

1:17:00Shannon Sharpe:That's it. We've had facts that Ocho can't say foot or ball tonight. He can't. Masterpiece said Raiders O-line is bad. Pete Carroll should tell his son to step down. Oh, he's O-line coach? I didn't know that. Learn something new every day. I didn't know Pete Carroll was O-line coach. I didn't know that either.

1:17:23Shannon Sharpe:Bag on head. Oh, poor Ocho roots for the Bengals and the Dolphins. man least you could do is forgive uh 5900 he owes you nah hell nah i need all that aaron jones said the chiefs false started three times that were a second uh early no call when the eagles do it just once now it's a huge problem miss me with that no they uh i'm so i'm i'm surprised that they didn't get because i did see i did see 74 the right tackle leave a little early i did see that. Jamarcus Russell, I'm ready for Vegas. Put me in, coach. We got you, bro. Trayvon, hey, fellas, do y 'all believe the Chargers can make a deep playoff run with the play calling he's been doing?

1:18:08Shannon Sharpe:Yes, the Chargers are good. And they're going to get a... What's the guy? Did he lie with me back? 52. Oh, Khalil Mack. Khalil Mack, he'll be back. Bag on head. Monday night by Ocho teams gonna get you know what and will Ocho did the Bengals have their backup defense in also no but they was tired because they was on the field all game long no time to rest no time to rest

1:18:46Shannon Sharpe:MSQ to defend Ocho's Bengals against Unks Broncos as Dominique Toretto said doesn't matter if you win by an inch or mile, winning's winning. Same thing applies. L. Still an L no matter the score. Not true. Ed Al Smith said, my Packers had the worst loss today. Jordan loved them fourth quarter turnovers. Lord, have mercy. True. Keith Oliver said, if the Bengals beat the Eagles next week, should Baker be mentioned in the MVP discussion? Yes, he's in the MVP discussion. Christopher E. Evans Jr. said, the Patriots have to clean up the penalties and stop turning the ball over five times. Come on now.

1:19:22Shannon Sharpe:That's something normally you don't see from New England. No, that's something we didn't see from New England with Coach Belichick. Steven Bass, 314. Uncle Nocho, y 'all my favorite people. Give us another childhood story. Also, Casey played quarters all game with John, refused to run the ball. Much love. Been a fan since you were at CBS. I appreciate that, Steven. Yeah.

1:19:48Shannon Sharpe:because at the end of the day they felt that they could stop him with their front seven I do like Scadabo I like him he runs hard Scadabo reminds me of Peyton Hillis for some reason he does he's not Peyton Hillis but he just I don't know Ash

1:20:08Shannon Sharpe:Jamal the singer first word when he gets to heaven where the hell is Ocho at Mofo still owes me $5 ,900. True. Josiah Strong, I'm saying with injuries as well as Purdy, even with those injuries, had a better overall offense. Kemper Norwood Jr. said, Ocho, did all that talking and the Bengals got their brakes beat off of them. All right. No more Ocho. No more Bengal talk, please. I'm already sad enough. Boom said, I want to know your thoughts on the AFC West and the NFC North. AFC West looks like it's going to be the Chargers. They've already beaten three teams. They've already beaten all three teams.

1:20:55Shannon Sharpe:We'll see what happens if they can, you know, it's early, three games. But Chargers got to like where they stand. And then they got the Giants next week. Andrew Powell, Purdy had a bottom 10 defense last year with a clueless DC, Debo, Watts, Ayuk, Her, O-Lot, a disaster. Mahomes bailed out over and over by the D. That's how you feel, huh?

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