Nightcap Hour 2: Unc, Ocho, & Iso Joe react to Aaron Rodgers and Mike Tomlin Bromance

31 Jul 2025 · 1 h 6 min · 34 chapters

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In short

The hosts debate modern NFL distractions (players checking social media at halftime), compare eras of phone use, and discuss contract/holdout dynamics (Bengals, Cowboys, Steelers). They also react to Mike Tomlin’s stated “bromance” with Aaron Rodgers and what it means for the Steelers’ season, plus share locker-room/teammate-beef stories and practice-facility talk.

Guests (podcast participants)

Unc (Ocho and Joe are the main co-hosts); they reference “Aaron Rodgers and Mike Tomlin Bromance” and discuss multiple NFL/NBA news items. No separate guest interviewees are clearly identified in this transcript.

Guest backgrounds (as mentioned in discussion): Ocho and Joe are former NFL players with firsthand experience in locker rooms, sideline/halftime habits, and contract negotiations. They also reference Michael Porter Jr. (NBA) and DeMar DeRozan (NBA) as external interview subjects, not in-studio guests.

Key claims

Halftime phone scrolling is now habitual; veterans being “ushered out” increases distraction. Bengals are portrayed as “cheap,” and Trey Hendrickson’s return is framed as fine-avoidance, not deal progress. Tomlin–Rodgers respect should hold unless on-field behavior crosses lines.

Notable examples

Ocho tweets on the sideline during a preseason injury; a Ray Lewis/Ed Reed story about a postgame confrontation; Bengals helmet/Jeff Blake deep-ball comparisons; Cowboys contract timing “tax” analogy; practice facility comparisons (Porter Jr. on Nets’ Brooklyn facility).

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Chapters

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DeMar DeRozan's Insights on Young Players

0:00 to 0:34

DeMar DeRozan discusses the differences in player mentality now versus in the past.

“When you're moving like I do, you don't always get a lot of lead time.”

DeMar DeRozan's Insights on Young Players

1:39 to 2:16

DeMar DeRozan discusses the differences in player mentality now versus in the past.

“You can buy a blanket anywhere, but the one they never want to let go of?”

DeMar DeRozan's Insights on Young Players

2:25 to 4:30

DeMar DeRozan discusses the differences in player mentality now versus in the past.

“DeMar said, I see that mofo put his name on Twitter search at halftime to see what they were saying.”

The Impact of Technology on Players

4:30 to 7:24

The hosts debate how technology and social media affect players during games.

“Can you imagine What it's like in high school In college No We in different times And now guys getting paid in college and high school too?”

NIL and College Sports Evolution

7:24 to 10:00

Discussion on the changes in college sports with the introduction of NIL payments.

“Could y 'all even fathom the thing that you could get into as a kid, bro, in this time and era to where you got all these devices, whether it's phones, iPads, it's just too much, man.”

Trey Hendrickson's Contract Talks

10:00 to 14:00

Analysis of Trey Hendrickson's situation with the Bengals and ongoing contract talks.

“Trey Hendrickson reported to Bingo's camp and told reporters, things are exactly the same with contract talks.”

Discussing Team Dynamics and Player Contracts

14:00 to 18:02

Explore the challenges of player contracts and team dynamics in the NFL.

“One thing about it, and one thing I know about the Brown family, what you're not going to do is you're not going to bully Mike Brown.”

Mike Tomlin and Aaron Rodgers Bromance

18:02 to 21:26

Examine the relationship between Mike Tomlin and Aaron Rodgers amidst team pressures.

“And Dan Snyder offered Mike Brown two first-round picks, Joe.”

Assessing Aaron Rodgers' Impact on the Steelers

21:26 to 28:00

Analyze how Aaron Rodgers' performance will affect the Steelers' future games.

“Tomlin said it was kind of a bromance for me.”

Anticipation for Football Season

28:00 to 28:39

The hosts discuss the excitement surrounding the upcoming football season.

“Matter of fact We got football tomorrow too I forgot about that.”
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Devontae Adams and Jimmy G's Relationship

28:40 to 29:59

The hosts reflect on Devontae Adams' comments on his relationship with Jimmy Garoppolo as teammates.

“but I'm surprised this is the first time it's been brought up, but it's been amazing.”

Memorable Conflicts in Football

30:00 to 31:32

The hosts share personal anecdotes about awkward fallout and conflicts with former teammates.

“Like, when we played the Ravens, I think I told you.”

Ray Lewis Encounter

31:33 to 33:19

A humorous recounting of a past encounter with NFL player Ray Lewis during a game.

“So if Air Reed hadn't held me, I would have turned that 52 upside down.”

NFL Helmets and Equipment

33:20 to 34:34

The hosts discuss NFL helmets and share thoughts on their designs and significance.

“Soon as I saw that damn face mask, I said, they got to be Pick helmet.”

Contract Negotiations in the NFL

34:35 to 36:21

A discussion on how NFL teams handle contract negotiations for top players.

“That's why I say they're going to pay Michael, but they're going to pay him.”

Player Salaries and Market Value

36:22 to 37:48

The hosts analyze the impact of market changes on player salaries in the NFL.

“you let the other guys reset the market.”

Introduction to Solo Travel

42:00 to 42:17

Exploring the benefits and personal growth from solo travel experiences.

“It's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is and not the lies you're sold about it.”

Podcast Promotion

42:17 to 42:31

Encouragement to listen to the podcast Solita on various platforms.

Nostalgia Over Phone Technology

42:31 to 45:56

A humorous discussion about the evolution of mobile phones and personal anecdotes.

“The iPhone with each NFC team last made the NFC Championship game.”

Accountability in Sports

45:56 to 48:52

A discussion on accepting accountability during practice and game situations.

“I say, hey, I go in motion, go to the tackle, turn around and come back.”

The Importance of Meetings in Sports

48:52 to 52:34

The significance of attending team meetings and the consequences of being late.

“Man, hey, I didn't even look at the sideline.”

Practice Facilities in Sports

52:34 to 55:05

Comparing various practice facilities and their impact on player performance.

“Boy, you miss one of me, you mess around and be late, boy, you're going to feel lost.”

Trey Young and Hawks Roster Changes

55:05 to 56:00

Discussion on Trey Young's role and the changes in the Hawks' roster.

“So you can kind of, you can see over the whole Brooklyn, over New York.”

Discussion on NBA Talent and Trades

56:00 to 57:00

Explore the potential of NBA players and team dynamics.

“I used to go over there and get my knee drained.”

Reviewing the Greatest Sports Franchises

57:00 to 58:50

A list of the top sports franchises across different leagues and the reasoning behind the rankings.

“best sports franchises of all time by sport.”

Jonathan Kaminga's Future and Trade Talks

58:50 to 1:01:05

Analyzing Jonathan Kaminga's potential move to Sacramento and his situation with the Warriors.

“Jonathan Kaminga reportedly prefers to play for the Sacramento Kings instead of the Golden State Warriors.”

Jalen Ramsey's $5 Motivation and NFL Trades

1:01:05 to 1:03:26

Discussion on Jalen Ramsey's unique motivation tactic and his career transitions.

“Ocho, Steelers cornerback Jalen Ramsey is wearing a$5 bill on his shoulder pads at training camp.”

Cam Ward's Challenges as a First Round Pick

1:03:26 to 1:05:38

Examining Cam Ward's position as a first-round draft pick and the expectations that come with it.

“Cam Ward told The Athletic there's a target on his back.”

Trent Williams vs. Nick Bosa in Training Camp

1:05:38 to 1:09:12

Analyzing the competitive dynamic between Trent Williams and Nick Bosa during practice.

“Trent showed frustration during practice because Nick Bosa kept beating him.”

Audience Q&A and Madden Challenge

1:09:12 to 1:10:01

Responding to audience questions and a lighthearted gaming challenge.

“for our final segment of the evening it's time for Q and A.”

Quarterback Ratings Discussion

1:10:01 to 1:11:26

Discussion on Jared Goff and Jalen Hurts' performance and ratings.

“He said you, he said you, you got a Jared Goff rating higher than Jalen Hurts.”

Rookie of the Year Predictions

1:11:27 to 1:13:03

Predictions on who will win Rookie of the Year in the upcoming NFL season.

“I've been seeing a few clips of him playing very well.”

Rookie of the Year Predictions

1:15:34 to 1:15:44

Predictions on who will win Rookie of the Year in the upcoming NFL season.

“but without T-Mobile 5G home internet, it's scary here.”

Rookie of the Year Predictions

1:15:54 to 1:16:58

Predictions on who will win Rookie of the Year in the upcoming NFL season.

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2:24Shannon Sharpe:DeMar DeRozan went on Mellow's pod and explained the difference between being the young players now when he was their age. DeMar said, I see that mofo put his name on Twitter search at halftime to see what they were saying. Joe, they misbehaving like this, Joe. Hey, it's, hey, in this new era, it's a lot different, fellas. Halftime, he ain't lying. Now, I'm sure, you know, a lot of these teams going, you know, put these stipulations in where these guys can't be using their phone at halftime. But a lot of these cats, man, they on their phones at halftime, checking to see what's going on. It's just a, it's almost like a habit.

3:01Shannon Sharpe:It's a part of who they are and what they do. They can't help it. You sit in your locker room. First thing you do, pick up your phone, you go to scrolling. Yeah. We ain't, hey, now, like in practice, like they get a break. Yeah. Guys go get on the phone then, you know what I'm saying, you know, call somebody. But, boy, I can't even imagine. Ocho, can you imagine somebody doing that at halftime of a game? Did that ever happen? Hey, I can't even talk trash, y 'all. Because my crazy ass, I tweeted on the sideline in the middle of the game, in the middle of the preseason game. I wouldn't agree with that but preseason but I'm talking about they're talking about regular season no I wouldn't do nothing like that but I think we were playing Philly in the preseason and I got hit real good real good to the point where I had to go and let everybody know I was okay the tweet might still be up well if you didn't take it down yeah it's still up it's still up there we were playing the Eagles in the preseason and I forgot the dude's name Whitefellow He's really good War 55 I can't remember his name But he caught me on the slam I wanted to say Bruh it's preseason But I had to sit there For a little minute Before I got up I was a little woozy That's what's going on now Wow That's why they don't win Can you imagine What it's like in high school In college No We in different times And now guys getting paid in college and high school too?

4:40Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah. College is a professional sport now. It is. Yeah, it's a professional sport. And you see what they're doing. You see they're trying to limit. You see they're trying to limit the NIL, though, Joe. You see that, right? Yeah, they're trying. You know why they're trying to limit it, Joe? Talk to me. Because the people that get the money, who they look like. Hey, listen, hold on. While you're talking, they say they were going to start doing a little back pay on their... I went and checked in on it, but they're only going back like 10 years. Damn. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can fuck on, Joe. Hey, Joe, you trying to get a little back pay, huh?

5:16Shannon Sharpe:I'm just trying to see what's going on, Joe. I ain't trying to ruffle no, but I'm just trying to see what's going on. I got you. Yeah. I know they ain't going back no damn near 40 years, because that's what it'll be. That's what it'll be for me next year. I went to school in 86, so I know I ain't getting nothing. As a matter of fact, they ain't got no money to be paying nobody. They ain't got no money to pay nobody now, so I know they ain't getting no back pay. But I don't get this. Like I say, guys, when you're here, you're here. Now, when you're home, okay, be there. Do what you want to do. You want to tweet.

5:49Shannon Sharpe:You want to do whatever you want to do. But I'm confused. At the half of a game, you checking what people said on Twitter, IG, whatever the case may be? Really? Because you're thinking you're probably too locked in to even care about that at that point. That's what I would be thinking. like that's why our phones are such a distraction nowadays. Man, you gotta think when I was in college and y 'all a little older than me but when I was in college, we didn't have cell phones man we didn't have cell phones that bill was so expensive huh? you didn't have no cell phones? no man, you gonna get your calling card, call whoever you wanna call that's how y 'all talking you talk that card up, you gonna get your nothing we ain't no cell phones or you get somebody else calling card I had a cell phone Joe I had a little razor a little star yeah I had a little phone Joe no when I got in the league people had two ways nobody had cell phones in at 01 I had a cell phone Joe I don't know but at that point it was different I mean it was different they took that stuff serious man and I think the thing is now Joe is that a lot of the veterans have been ushered out.

7:10Shannon Sharpe:And so they're getting younger and younger. And so all this stuff that they're doing now, but yeah, that would be, man, that would be, ooh, goodness gracious. Times have changed. It is. Times have changed. You couldn't even. The money. Go ahead, Joe. Could y 'all even fathom the thing that you could get into as a kid, bro, in this time and era to where you got all these devices, whether it's phones, iPads, it's just too much, man. There's so many distractions nowadays. It's hard to keep a lot of these dudes focused, man. It is. It is. It's too much. They gotta want it. They gotta want it. You gotta really want it to be able to function and lock in during these times.

8:00You gotta want it. You do.

8:04Shannon Sharpe:you do Ocho you gotta okay prioritize what's important what's really important and what's a must have absolutely right and the thing is like who am I checking in on they know where I'm at I'm at a game what you doing playing the game okay you call me on Wednesday Thursday or Friday Ocho you call me at 10 o 'clock 10 30 in the morning man what you doing practice this. I'm watching film. I'm studying. What are you doing? You should, first of all, why you calling me? You should be at work too. I never understood that, Ocho. I don't. I didn't. I didn't understand why guys would get out of meeting and they go get on the phone.

8:52Shannon Sharpe:Bro, you know what your, unless somebody, I get it, okay, your wife and your girlfriend, pregnant, expected, kid sick, I get that. but y 'all go first of all if you go get on the phone like this here you ain't checking in to see if somebody's sick no I already know you good over there? no she probably still probably left a little chick at the house so you know you gotta check it and make sure she good in between meetings make sure she got something to eat I see man Joe it's different Joe I mean think about it Think about when you came in and when you left. Now think about the time. Ten years from now, what it's going to be like.

9:41Shannon Sharpe:The NBA going to join it. They're going to join in on all the fun. All this stuff these dudes doing, they're going to have activities. Post game, halftime. You know, they're interviewing guys on the side like we're going to have that because, you know, sometimes they're talking to the managers and things like that. They'll find a way to capitalize. You're right, Joe. They'll find a way to capitalize on it. Oh, Joe got some good news. What you got? Oh, good news? Go ahead, Joe. No, go ahead. I'm listening. No, go ahead, Joe. What were you going to say, Joe? No, go ahead. I'm listening. Trey Hendrickson reported to Bingo's camp and told reporters, things are exactly the same with contract talks.

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13:56yep he's not there he's not there you know on on on on good notice he's not there because you don't you don't want to pay the fines and then he said well we still understand still there's been no forward progress and that's getting the deal done i'm assuming must be far off the only reason he's there is because i don't want to accumulate a certain amount of fines 50 000 a

14:22Shannon Sharpe:day. They can't rescind. I'll be there too. One thing about it, and one thing I know about the Brown family, what you're not going to do is you're not going to bully Mike Brown. You're not going to bully Mike Brown. It's not happening. If his feet are cemented and he said this is what we can do and this is what we can pay, that's what it's going to be. That's what it's going to be. And I'm hoping because defensively, we need all hands on deck we need all the help we can get Frank Henderson had a hell of a year last year and the year before I would love for him to be conversated as such I hope at some point they come to an agreement and a number that makes sense for both but as of right now it ain't happening man I'm looking at y 'all gonna need him Ocho I don't need him Absolutely Listen Our defense was 26th, 27th Something like that in the NFL last year 25th and we had him So hell Even with the improvements At the middle Linebacker position and getting Shamar Stewart And other offseason Acquisitions, we need Everybody we can get To make sure we don't look like we did Hey, Joe, we don't need to be top five defense in NFL.

15:52We just need you to be somewhere in the middle of the pack and stop somebody if we score 30 points.

15:58Shannon Sharpe:That man has 17 and a half sacks, and y 'all finish where y 'all finish. So take away them 17 and a half sacks where you think y 'all going to finish. Hey, Ocho, I'm just serious. Because, Ocho, it's not like y 'all got like, y 'all just like loaded with talent like the Eagles. Right. So a one piece goes out, you're like, okay, cool, we good. You know, they lost two key pieces, but they still got Carter, they still got Davis, they still got Braun, they got the corners and things like that. They good, they locked. Right. Bro, y 'all really got one player that people worry about on defense. It's him.

16:40Yeah.

16:41Shannon Sharpe:That's him And with no pressure They didn't spend all that money on offense Yeah I mean listen that's our identity That's our identity Joe But you can't let your big fella You can't let your DN go Come on now Hey Joe this is business Joe This is business Joe All the money I think we 29 million under the cap Don't quote me I might be wrong I think we're somewhere around there so I think they can get to a number that's decent, that makes the owners feel comfortable, that can make trade feel comfortable, but hell, if it was, shit, I would assume it would have been done by now. Hell, we have six months since the season ended last year.

17:24Shannon Sharpe:They might as well go on trading, man. Go on trading, Ocho. That's what they should do, but like Ocho say, that's a prideful man. He don't play. He don't play on... They don't let you back them into a corner? They don't let you bully them? Hey, Joe, I was in my prime, Joe. I was upset. Just the media blaming me for us losing. I'm like, well, hell, how y 'all blaming me for us losing? I'm doing everything I'm supposed to do. I'm like, you know. And I was like, man, well, let me get up out of here then. It's okay. Man, please. Boy, who's the former owner of the Redskins? I'm sorry. Are the commanders?

18:06Shannon Sharpe:Dan Snyder. And Dan Snyder offered Mike Brown two first-round picks, Joe. Man, I'm in my prime, Joe. I'm talking about prime, mouthful of gold. Yeah, that boy. Man, Mike Brown said, uh-uh. Uh-uh, he ain't going to wear you, whether you mad or not. But I came back that following season. Boy, I had about 560 yards that season, Joe.

18:34it wasn't nothing wrong with me I went from a 13, 1400 y 'all season to all of a sudden 500 out the blue and I'm healthy

18:42Shannon Sharpe:what they want they want to throw into your way bro

18:48Shannon Sharpe:oh they get you that they fix it up for you yo that let me know okay I see who run the show you know what let me play the game the right way that's all I need to see Joe, I went from a 1 ,300-yard season, and the next season, after being disgruntled, all of a sudden, I only got 500 yards? Man, they ain't heard a peep from me after that. But, hey, y 'all better get straight here. Hey, you see the Steelers? And the Steelers got a solid defense. Solid? They more than solid on paper. Wait a minute, on paper. Outside of T.J. White, who's proven, but you got other pieces that come from other places that play.

19:33They got Highsmith.

19:34Shannon Sharpe:They got Hebrick, I think that's his name. Cam Hayward. Highsmith is 56, right? 56 is Highsmith, right? He was balling last year. I think he kind of dinged. But the other guy, he might be 51. But they got some pieces over there. And what did they do? They gave T.J. Watt the money. I knew they were going to do that. And you mean to tell me y 'all not even close to the Steelers' level of talent and y 'all best player on defense? Y 'all don't want to pay him? You should have told him. You do something. You should not have told him that we're going to take care of it because the man went out there and led the league in sacks, Coach Ocho.

20:20Shannon Sharpe:He's all pro. And so he has an expectation. He's like, okay, y 'all say y 'all going to take care of me. Okay, here it is. Take care of me. Well, this is what we could do. Nah, nah, they ain't taking care of me. That's taking care of y 'all. Make the money right. I'm being in them position. But you're right. The Bengals just started paying people like three years ago when they paid Joe Burrow. For the longest time, they got Boomer Sison out of there because they didn't want to pay Boomer. They don't pay nobody, Ocho. You know that. You know that. First hand. You been there one decade. They don't pay nobody.

20:56They done opened up the water in there. They didn't start to open that wallet up, man.

21:00Shannon Sharpe:Joe Burrow and Chase. They played a couple of them offensive linemen. Obrow, OB, they paid him. But then, like I said, they just started that recently. Bingo's been cheap. Everybody know the Bingo's cheap. Show me the money. Mike Tomlin says he has a bromance with Aaron Rodgers. Tomlin said it was kind of a bromance for me. I was just excited to get to know the guy on a personal level. Man, we had some cool, interesting conversations about football, about life, about where he is in his career, and what he was potentially looking for. Ocho, how long do you think the bromance lasts if the Steelers don't start winning?

21:48Listen, remember, listen, wins or losses, is depending on regards to how it goes. Remember how Aaron Rodgers treated Robert Sala?

21:56Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Remember the interaction on the sideline, the pushing and the shoving off of him? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What type of reason for the head coach? Now, what won't happen, whether they're winning or losing, now Mike Tomlin ain't playing that. Oh, no. Oh, that ain't going to happen. That's not going to happen. So whether they're winning or losing, I think the relationship between those two, because there's a certain amount of respect that he has for Mike Tomlin and what he's been able to accomplish in Pittsburgh, I think everything will be just fine. Everything will be just fine. All he has to do is, listen, if Russell Wilson can do what he did last year and Justin Fields can do what he did last year, Aaron Rodgers, being at the helm, should be able to do just that.

22:36Do what they ask of, don't turn the ball over, and let the defense win the game for you.

22:43Shannon Sharpe:It's simple. It's simple. Plus, he doesn't come in. with what he went into the Jets with. They got on private Jets. They court A. They're like, look, this is what we got. Take it or leave it. You know Mike Tomlin runs the show. Yeah. The moment you go get Randall Cobb, the moment you go get Alan Lazard, you've ceded all control to Aaron Rodgers because now you've given up control. you like okay I want this I want that I want this I want that the moment a kid starts screaming and you give him what he wants Ocho you see the control right

23:31Shannon Sharpe:that's not going to happen in Pittsburgh but you have to understand the Jets start with that control and we we allowing you to take the keys to the team and put the pieces around you they felt that's what you needed to succeed it just didn't happen the way that they saw. I think it would have had he bought all the way in. When Tampa turned it over to Tom, what did Tom do? He bought all the way in. When Denver turned it over to Payton, he bought all the way in. That's not what Aaron did. Was halfway in? He locked in now, though. Yeah. Hey, you got some veterans over there you got some veterans over there that that'll get in his ear now he didn't have that veteran presence over there in New York that'll be like hey come on they were just happy to have him because you think about the quarterback play that they had before yeah and they was like well that's Aaron Rodgers he gonna be better than that and so they just seeded you know everything to him hey look that's a very tough division that is not an easy division cause you got exemplary quarterback play at two other spots in Cincinnati and Baltimore.

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24:49Shannon Sharpe:And you're going to have to be on your best behavior to beat those two teams. And they just happen to be in your division. Now, you got some other tough games on the schedule also, but like you said, Ocho,

25:04Shannon Sharpe:we're about to find out can he summons up the old Aaron Rodgers or he just old Aaron Rodgers? Yeah, just a little bit. Just a little bit. Give me flashes. Give me three flashes a quarter. Two flashes a quarter. Hey, Ocho, y 'all allowed me the right to be wrong on this, but I think for the Jets, he had to be pretty spectacular for them to win, right? I think with the Steelers, because their defense is pretty good, that I don't think it would be a whole lot of pressure on him. Plus, he got some help offensively to where he'll be a lot better, I think, for the Steelers than he was for the Jets. I think the offensive line is better, but the problem that he ran in, and this is what I said, and I remember having this conversation.

25:52Shannon Sharpe:I said, Ocho, you're saying he just needs to be Aaron Rodgers. I said, now what happens if that defense isn't what it was for those other quarterbacks? Right. Zach Wilson. So let's just say for the sake of argument, that defense slips a little bit. Yeah. And you see, as guys start to get older, Joe, and I don't know how it is in basketball, you can speak to this, but as guys get older at the quarterback position, they need more help. Whereas guys, Aaron Rodgers five years ago, six years ago, no problem. You could have put his sister to the north out there with him. He would have succeeded. He could do it.

26:33Shannon Sharpe:I've seen it. But as you get older, you need more help. a la tom goes to tampa a la payton goes to denver look at the receiving help that he had look at the running backs look at the offensive line all those things go into play i do believe he has a better offensive line than what he has okay he got dk they lost pickens uh they got uh calvin austin the third so they got some players so we'll see we'll see uh uh warren the running back. We'll see how that turns out. But I don't think he needs to be 40 touchdown, Aaron. I don't. I don't think they have a 40 touchdown offense. You could be right.

27:18You could be right.

27:20Shannon Sharpe:You could be right. I say that respectfully. The Bengals have a 40 touchdown offense. For sure. Absolutely. Yes. Yes. Yes. You know why? Because their defense aren't very good. They're going to be in some shootouts. It's just real talk They gonna be in a shootout They don't talk Come on That's the second time You take a shot Of a team now But they gonna be Ocho Y 'all defense They're not very good You see y 'all lost games 41-38 Y 'all lost 38-35 Y 'all lost 34-31 You're right You're right Y 'all gonna be in games Like that Listen This is a new year though This is It's a new year We don't know What's gonna happen Matter of fact We got football tomorrow too I forgot about that.

28:05Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Oh, this is the last weekend you won't have football until the middle of February. So, moving forward, you got preseason, and then, you know, you got college, and then you got NFL, college NFL, college NFL, and then when the college go, and then you have bowl season, you have playoffs. So, yeah. Hey, it's here now. It's here now. Devontae Adams clears the air with Jimmy G during dark time as Raiders teammates. It's amazing. I love Jimmy, he said. It was never a personal thing. I was hoping we didn't have to have these conversations, but I'm surprised this is the first time it's been brought up, but it's been amazing.

28:45Shannon Sharpe:We got to catch up on it and get on the right page. Obviously, that was just a dark moment in all of our lives. I think all of us were pretty miserable over there. We kind of caught up and laughed about it, and we've been making plays since we got out here. So, it's been fun. Has either one of you guys ever had an awkward fallout with a former teammate and had to squash the beef once you guys became teammates again. Nah. Nah, I ain't never had no beef with none of my teammates or none of that. Nah. You hear that, Ocho? I heard it either. Nah, I was a fun guy, Joe. I mean, the same way I am on the show.

29:24I was in the locker room. Same way I was on the field. I was just fun, man. I was a fun dude, Joe. I ain't had no problem with nobody. I think I got in one scuffle one time with my safety at training camp, Madhu Williams. Yeah. And that was it. That one time. I didn't either.

29:50Shannon Sharpe:I mean, I left Denver, went to Baltimore, left Baltimore, went back to Denver. No. I've never had an awkward fallout. We had to squash B. I mean. Well, Joe, I had that one fight, Joe. Like, when we played the Ravens, I think I told you. Joe, I don't think I told you that story. We played the Ravens. We was at B &T. What's the name of the stadium? M &T. Yeah, I was at M &T. You know, towards the end of the game, you know, Joe, I went to catch a slant. Carson threw me a slant, right? You know? It was a little high, and I jumped for it anyway, right, Joe? Stay with me now. and so I seen Ray at the corner of my eye in my peripheral vision I was like I don't even care I'm going to try to go get it anyway and I was like oh the ball's whacked I started to come down and Ray hit me on the side of my ear hole and I'm like well wait a minute that was Ray that just hit me we just prayed before the game so I know the Lord ain't tell you to hit me like that so Joe I jumped up right and I went after him I don't want to put his hands on you, right?

31:01But then, boom, I think Ed Reed grabbed me. So when Ed grabbed me, I was like, nah, you're going to have to answer for that. That's what I said in my mind. So after the game, right, Joe? Boom, I went to the Ravens locker room. I went looking for Ray. So I walked in the locker room and secured it like, hey.

31:16Shannon Sharpe:He didn't know where he was. Yeah, you can't be here. So I waited in the parking lot. but then the team bus hit the horn for me to go and that kind of like saved me from you just wanted to get something straight you wasn't really going to put no pause on yeah yeah because like Joe before every game I swear for God for a decade straight Joe for a decade straight we didn't miss one game me and Ray he gave me a scripture we sat on the phone we read the scripture before we went to play the game whether we were playing each other or not consistently for a decade straight how the hell we just prayed before the game and you hit me like that yeah he prayed he's gonna knock your ass out man joe hey boy joe listen it boy it would have took all 12 disciples to get me off of ray boy if i would have caught him after that game

32:10you should have caught him right there on the field no because i i would have got fined so i i would listen you you know you know how it go when you're angry, you don't think logically. So if Air Reed hadn't held me, I would have turned that 52 upside down. That bitch with a red 25.

32:27Shannon Sharpe:You did it right, Faye. Grab your helmet because he knocked your helmet smooth off. You thought your head was in it. Hey, you went and picked your helmet up like that. It's all good. It's all good. Boy, he's something there. Hey, he a Florida boy too, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, boy. Right from Lakeland, right up the street, man. Right up the street. Yeah. Y 'all, no, but you know better. He caught me the same way. He caught me under my chin on the deep end. Yeah. He got you too? Got me too. Hey, hey, hey. I caught it. I was trying to bring it in. Hit me right up under my chin. I say, boop. Take it.

33:14Shannon Sharpe:Ain't Ray touching anything. Come past him. He wasn't playing. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Hey, that boy wasn't that nice right there, boy. Ojo, look at this. Ojo, look what I got. That's Pickens? That's Lil' Pickens, yeah. Lil' Pick, man. I knew it was Pick. Soon as I saw that damn face mask, I said, they got to be Pick helmet. Carl was nice, boy. Hey, man. Hey, Pick like, hey, nobody want no bingo's helmet back in the day, Ojo. Man, that pick just said, hey, man, take this. I don't want to take it back home. I thought the Bengals used to have some decent helmets, huh? Man, the Bengals were terrible.

33:56Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Now, him and Jeff Blake, ain't nobody throwing deep balls like Jeff Blake. Hey, he had a pretty ball, boy. Jeff had a pretty ball. Man, that thing take a, hey, just like Aaron Rodgers throw the helmet, that's how Jeff would throw the deep ball. That man just like, it just come down and pick just run right up under. Him and Darnay, boy, they used to Yeah. They were nice, boy. Yeah, Ocho, I got me on me. Do y 'all still got any helpers like this, Ocho? They still like this, right? It's still the same. It's still the same. You know we got the white ones now. You know they got the white ones.

34:29Oh, yeah, yeah,

34:30Shannon Sharpe:yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's y 'all color rush though, right? Yeah, that's the color rush. Okay. Cowboys EVP Stephen Jones spoke about how they handle their top players contract we don't drag deals out we do deals when there's an opportunity to do a deal certainly no one knows what's going on internally with a particular negotiation sometimes players and agents aren't ready to pull the trigger until they see other cards played what are we going to do go out there and do something that's not responsible in terms of just name getting done uh one month earlier do it pay another guy five million of your own cap space especially when you're dealing in our particular case internally with guys who are homegrown here we feel like they want to be here i felt like dak wanted to be here i always felt like cd wanted to be here what you think is joe but here's the thing you wait until the very last year you could have got a michael deal done after year three you could have got daguer deal done you could have got cd but when you wait when you wait until the very last minute yes yes they're gonna they're gonna put a tax on you it's just that simple because you put them in a situation they had to avoid injury for two extra years so now i gotta make you pay i gotta make you pay ocho gotta pay you gotta pay extra you gotta pay the toll yeah you know you what was that uh the troll Ohio is under the bridge, and you want to come across, you want to cross the bridge, you got to pay the toll.

36:04Shannon Sharpe:You got to pay the toll. Hey, look. You got to pay the toll to the troll. Jerry knows that. Jerry knows. That's why I say they're going to pay Michael, but they're going to pay him. It's going to be right for the season. Y 'all know how this is going to be. They're going to pay him more than what they had. Because, first of all, you let T.J. Watt, you let the other guys reset the market. Yeah. He was at 34. Just last year, the highest paid defensive player made$34 million. The highest paid defensive player now makes$41 million. That's$7 million. Now, plus, he got 108 guaranteed? What you call him?

36:46Shannon Sharpe:Got like 123 guaranteed. So what's Michael looking at? Michael looking to go 42 with somewhere between 120 and 130. 135 guaranteed he gonna reset it yes it's the same thing he did with Dak think about it it's twice he did this with Dak because you didn't do Dak and you let Carson Wentz and Jerry Goff and then you think he's gonna give you the same type of deal no but they signed him two years early they signed him two years early with two franchise tags Dak said nah I'm good you gotta break me off all the way off faulting. And wasn't playing no game. You waited again, and guess what he said, Ocho?

37:29Shannon Sharpe:Now I need 60. All of it. I need 60. Yeah, I need 60. But yeah, we're going to get Michael paid, man. We got some special things we're doing this year in Dallas, baby. Don't y 'all worry about it. You ain't got no choice. You're right. You're right. And you do realize, your left guard, Tyler Smith, is going to want to get paid, too. Mm-hmm. Trey Smith just got 24, 25 million. Tyler Smith said, yeah, I'm going to need that. I done been to the Pro Bowl twice. I need that. If I go to the third time, I'm going to need that, coach. Get at me. Get at me. I'll let your boy. Oh, I forgot. What y 'all going to do with George Pickens?

38:09Oh, no. I don't want one. This pick resume year, it don't got to be there. It don't got to be there.

38:16Shannon Sharpe:That's my point. It has to be there. So, I mean, you probably You gave him draft capital to get him You probably want to keep him But, hey, he's going to be looking He's going to be looking, you know You say he 1B 1B money somewhere, you know 30, 33, 34 So you're going to have You're going to have a$60 million quarterback Two$34 million receivers If they win And a$42 million You got one the Bengals found a way to do it. They're going to have to do it too. But here's the thing. I don't think George Pickett's agent is going to go for what T. Higgins agent is going to let them go. That ain't happening, no joke.

39:02Shannon Sharpe:That ain't happening.

39:09Shannon Sharpe:And I know Micah ain't doing no deal like that.

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42:31Shannon Sharpe:Joe, check out this graphic. The iPhone with each NFC team last made the NFC Championship game. Look at what the Cowboys got. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill.

42:49Shannon Sharpe:They got that Motorola. Woo. Hey, man, listen. We trying to... Eagles. The Eagles. What we on now? 15, 16 for the Eagles? iPhone 15? iPhone 16? Yeah. I think... What iPhone is? It's 16? 16, yeah. So they up to date. Look at that thing. I see, man. I see. We're going to get it right, though. Don't trip. no y 'all not that's that big old brick you hear somebody in the head with that thing

43:27Shannon Sharpe:we go get it together Ocho you ain't have one of them Ocho I had one of them Ocho I had the big one and the little one they came out with a smaller version what's that I can't see it that's a phone you need to go to the ophthalmologist

43:47Shannon Sharpe:look at it with the good eye

43:53hey that's no Kia huh that's a Motorola oh I had the Motorola block the 8000 big boy with the antenna you remember when the Motorola used to sit in the car huh yeah right in the middle

44:09Shannon Sharpe:in the middle concert yeah i remember i remember they used to have they used to have a pouch i'm old enough to remember they had to have to have the pouch you can carry the pouch with you yep yo you had a beeper joe no i ain't had no beeper man i ain't had none of that old joe when i first got in the game wait joe how old are you i'm 44 when i first got in the game man i had a two-way pager when i came out of college i had a two-way you ain't had no sack i bet you You had no sidekick though. Remember the sidekick? I had the sidekick the joint you pop over. You had the sidekick car, Joe. Huh? You had the sidekick vehicle.

44:44Shannon Sharpe:You remember the sidekick? Listen, listen. I ain't have all the fancy stuff. I ain't have all that fancy stuff. No. My bad, my bad, my bad, my bad. Bad cell phone bill used to be$50 a month, Ocho. Ooh-wee. What? Yeah. Man, a minute was like$4,$5 a minute. Oh, hey. I ain't had nobody to talk to you like that. You used the weekends, man. The weekends were free. You used the weekends. That plan came along later, Joe. It didn't first start out like that now. And then you go out of the area, that thing start roaming. Hey, what's the plan when your minutes roll over? Oh, roll over plans? You don't use them all to get to roll over yet?

45:31Yeah, y 'all use them in a minute to roll over to the next month?

45:33Shannon Sharpe:Yes. And then that's when they came out after seven and weekends for free. Yeah. So you had to wait until seven. Hey, call me after seven. Don't you call me because I ain't answering. Right. Right. Because I ain't answering. I ain't answering. Right. Bears rookie Luther Burton III was kicked off the field and chewed out by Ben Johnson after issued at the line of scrimmage during team drills. burdened missed several weeks of practice with a hamstring injury and Johnson said it has hindered his progress learning the system it shows up already I mean we were in walkthrough yesterday afternoon then misalignment we have to re-huddle we have to start it all over again he's a little bit behind right now Burton III responded very well to the accountability that Johnson gave him early in your career did you ever have to accept accountability coming up short in practice or in the game.

46:27Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Absolutely. Hell yeah. Man, I forget. Ocho, I ain't no... Man, you don't move me. I'm a wide receiver, Ocho. They'll move me to tight end. They tell me to play, Ocho. Yeah. I go in motion. I stop. Man, what's the play again? What I got?

46:45Shannon Sharpe:Hey, hey, y 'all laughing. I'm damn serious. Ask him. I say, hey, I go in motion, go to the tackle, turn around and come back. Man, what I got? I forgot. What I got? man dad read me god dang it Shannon I don't know what you want me to tell you dad I forgot to play I remember them days man they sent me in the game I forgot to play coming into the game like every play we'd bring somebody to the game and they had to play give me the play I go in there how many games John look at me T look at me like T, what's the play? I forgot.

47:31Shannon Sharpe:Hey, it'll happen quick, too. It'll happen quick. Hey, I'm booking it. Joe, I'm booking it in the game, too. I'm like, man, I'm in the game. T, T, what's the play? Oh, I forgot. Hey, hey, hold on. In basketball, Ocho, doing like a timeout, coach might draw up three plays. Okay, we're going to run this play, then come back down next trip. We're going to run this play, then next trip down court. So he's got three plays in and drawn up. Now, you may go out there on defense, and you mess around and get a couple trips where y 'all may got steals or things of that sort. Man, you forget everything that man drew up over there.

48:16Shannon Sharpe:That's how it go. You be so locked in. What was the second play? Yeah. You go to ask your teammates. They don't even know. See, that's how we do no huddle, Ocho. We call two plays in the huddle. First one on one, second one on set hut. Hey, everything right formation. Cool, cool.

48:39Shannon Sharpe:What we got?

48:45Shannon Sharpe:Hell no. Man, I'll never forget that, man. I was so embarrassed. Man, hey, I didn't even look at the sideline. Because I know, man, Coach Reed, Coach Reed used to get so bad. Coach would turn red, and he had this big old, big old vein. I mean, it'd be bulging out of his neck. Because back then, coaches wore suits on the sideline, don't you? Coach Reed wore a suit. Yeah. You know, Coach, you go back and look at Coach Dick, and he had on sweater vest and things like that. So Coach Reed was dressed to the nine. Man, Coach Reed was so bad over there. Hey, he put it, getting that toe with that play.

49:21Shannon Sharpe:and I got out and ran in there and forgot all about that play. That's the worst feeling, bro. Oh, Joe. Hey. And everybody looking at me like, damn, how you forgetting to play? How you forgetting to play from the sideline to the huddle? Hey, hey. I guess jogging jarred my memory. Hey, look. That's like forgetting to play and probably being late to practice. That's been like the worst feelings, man. late to practice late late to meetings yeah and they already in there going through the meeting you gotta oh man that's that's the worst oh yeah oh that's the worst man i'm a i'm late for the meeting i'm playing the game better a offensive player of the game she had a sharp and you late for the meeting?

50:19Shannon Sharpe:I said, man, why ain't somebody, hey, on behalf of Mr. Sharp, I'd like to accept this award on his behalf, like they do at the Oscars, like they do at the Grammys or something, man, accept the award. Man, hey, we got a storm. We had played Carolina that Sunday. We beat the Brace of Carolina. I cooked them, Mocho. Cooked them. Sell them for$1.74.

50:47Man,

50:48Shannon Sharpe:that's no just another would not cooperate. Yeah, couldn't get to practice, huh? No, it was team mean because we give out the offense, defensive pleasure team player of the game that Wednesday in Mike's morning meeting. Right. So defensive player of the game, this many tackles, a pick, you know, sack, blah, blah, blah. You know, offensive player of the game, you know, it would be John, it would be TD. Most of the time it was TD. To be quite honest.

51:20Shannon Sharpe:But, yeah, but that's a bad feeling. As a matter of fact, I walk it in, they get ready to break the team meeting. That's the worst feeling, bro. That is the worst feeling. Because here's the thing, it's one thing to be late, it's so entirely distant to miss it. Huh? You was that late? yeah, man, that meeting don't take that long. It might just say, hey, great game, you know, blah, blah, blah. You know, congratulations. That's the way, you know, play start to finish. Play fast. I love everybody's engaged. Offensive player of the game, defensive player of the game, special teams player of the game.

51:56Shannon Sharpe:So the meeting ain't going to go for like six or seven minutes. Right. Being late is one thing. Missing the meeting is something entirely. Missing the meeting might cost, you know,$500. I mean, late for the meeting might cost$500. you know, missing the meeting gonna cost $2 ,000 yeah

52:16Shannon Sharpe:so yeah I understand like I said, I need to be there see it's hard to like pick up stuff where like you injured and they going over I need to walk through I need to be there and you know, you hurt you on the sideline, it ain't the same it ain't the same and hey and in this situation they are installing new every day so if you got if you not up to date on this today guess what that's gone we ain't talking about this no more we on page two and guess what we on page three and we on page four and then they come back and they go then they start implementing stuff from page one two three four five oh lord have mercy y 'all a joke, man.

53:05Shannon Sharpe:I know what you mean. That's what I do. Boy, you miss one of me, you mess around and be late, boy, you're going to feel lost. Yeah. Yeah, man. I had to get caught up. I said, man, I just went home one offseason and I just stood. I said, I got to know this stuff. Front with them backwards. I said, ain't no way. They're going to mess around and cut me if I don't know this stuff.

53:33Shannon Sharpe:Michael Porter Jr. spoke about the Nets practice facility saying I'm just glad y 'all got two courts man wow Joe who you think got some of the worst practice facilities you've ever played in worst practice facility man I played in some places I'm gonna be honest with y 'all it's probably here for the Hawks we practiced and it's we practice in the arena that we play. They got new facilities now over here by Emory. Yeah, but they ain't had it on when I was there. We practice in the arena that we played and they got a little practice court down there. That's what we did. Training camp. That's what we had.

54:12Shannon Sharpe:All our practice every day. Damn! It was bad, man. It was bad. They got state of the arts, somebody out of here now. It was bad, Ocho. They do. It was bad, Ocho. It was that bad? Man, we got, it's a little court inside the arena and that's what we practice every day. That's what we had. Training camp every day. It's just... It was tough, man. It was tough. Yeah. That's how the Ravens are state of the art now, but when I was there, that was bad. But these practice facilities, they got out here now? Because it used to be the old Baltimore Colts facility. Oh, yeah? Oh, yeah, over here on Droid Hills.

54:47Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah. But what Michael Porter Jr. talking about, what they got in Brooklyn? See, I was there. I was there when they built that facility. Oh, man. It ain't too many places, especially in the NBA, that can compete with that. Like, that's state of the art. Really? Yeah, it's in Brooklyn. It's a high rise. So you can kind of, you can see over the whole Brooklyn, over New York. Oh, you see over the hoods? You see over everything. You see the sky. You see the city, huh? Oh, it's beautiful, bro. It's beautiful. It's two huge courts in there. Yeah. Hot tubs, cold tubs. Like, they looking out for them boys over there.

55:23Shannon Sharpe:And see where Michael Porter Jr. coming from is Denver. They only got one court. It's probably a little bigger than what they got over here in Atlanta, what we had when I was practicing. So that's probably why he's saying that. Yeah, I'm surprised because Stan Kroenke got some bread now. Yeah. But a lot of these teams have upgraded their practice facilities, man. Boy, hey. The Hawks got a special one over here, though, Unc. If you ain't never been to it over here, they got a special practice facility over here now. Next to Emory Hospital? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I get jealous every time I go over there.

55:56Shannon Sharpe:I used to go over there. Like I said, I drew it here. I used to go over there and get my knee drained. Yeah. It's something nice. It's a sight to see. Hey, young bull about to get a big penny over there too, ain't he? Ooh, Trey. Back to Porter Jr.? Nah, the point guard. Trey. Trey Young. Trey. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, sir. They better take care of him, man. what they gonna do with our Trey over here exactly nice yeah make guys around him better it ain't too many guys like that in the league no more nope and you know they done got rid of John Collins I mean they done got rid of ain't nobody here but him yeah basically they got Dyson Daniels they let Capella go DeJounte they traded DeJounte but they got some talent though they got some talent but I think with Trey leading They got some talent, man.

56:54Shannon Sharpe:They got some talent to be special, especially in this Eastern Conference this year. So I'm looking forward to that for sure. But yeah, they got a patron.

57:06Shannon Sharpe:DraftKings asked AI to name the U.S. best sports franchises of all time by sport. No surprise. Yankees are one. Cardinals are two. Red Sox are three. Dodgers are four. Giants are five. Football. Patriots are one. Steelers are two. Niners are three. Cowboys are four. Packers are five. In the NBA, Celtics, Lakers, Bulls, Warriors, Spurs. Hockey. Canadians. Canadians. Canadians. Canadians, the Maple Leafs, the Red Wings, the Bruins, the Oilers. Any objection, though? So you see anything that you object to?

58:01Not really, no.

58:03Shannon Sharpe:Hold on. I'm surprised the Patriots.

58:09Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, the Knicks ain't that. It appears to me, you know what it appears to me? They went by championships. Right. Yeah. That's what it looked like to me.

58:29Shannon Sharpe:And you said they won by championships in every sport. That's what you're saying? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

58:41Oh.

58:42Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Yeah. Always doing something. A.I. done got crazy, man. Yeah, we need to get on that thing. I need to get on that. Jonathan Kaminga reportedly prefers to play for the Sacramento Kings instead of the Golden State Warriors. Kaminga believes the Warriors have stunted and strung his career along for four seasons. Joe, do you agree? It doesn't seem like he's going to accept their, I think, what is it, their offer? Yeah, talking about the Warriors' offer? Because I think. No, I don't think he's going to accept the Warriors' offer. I think he's actually ready to move on. But, yeah, I can see him going to Sacramento.

59:23Shannon Sharpe:They would have to do like a sign and trade, though, right? Correct. Correct. Yeah, I think if the Warriors are looking to improve, I'm not sure what Sacramento has that they will want, but they're going to have to trade. They're going to have to trade Camingo, man. They can't go into the season. Yeah, he done. He fed up. He done. Yeah, yeah. Because I'm not so sure that he trusts him anymore. Right. There you go. There you go. So do him a favor. Why is he limiting himself to one team? Huh? Why is he limiting himself to just one team? Why Sacramento? Why not anywhere else? I don't think there's really been that style of play.

1:00:06Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. But has it no groundswell because, you know. Go ahead, Joe. I don't think there's really been a huge market for him, Ocho. for whatever reason. It's been a little weird for him, but he's definitely a talent who can help a team obviously win a title, compete for one. The Sacramento thing, I don't know where they came from. Maybe they got the money to spend, but I don't think going back to Golden State is in his near future. I don't think it's beneficial for the Warriors anyway. Because the things that Curry said, you know, Yeah, I think he's over that situation. Damn. And I think it kind of happened when they got Jimmy Puglia.

1:00:54Go ahead.

1:00:55Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah. That kind of phased him out, yeah.

1:01:05Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, Steelers cornerback Jalen Ramsey is wearing a$5 bill on his shoulder pads at training camp. every time I go out there, I'm trying to make some money. Come on now. Oh, he got it on the flap. He got it on the flap. Yeah, he tried to make money. He got it on the pads. I'm trying to get this bread. Yeah, I like that. I like that. Whatever you got to do. Whatever you got to do to motivate yourself. Whatever you got to do to stay locked in. Right. I like it. This is the second time he's gotten traded because he came from the Rams. He spent two years in Miami and now he's damn because he started in Jacksonville did a couple years in Jacksonville went to the Rams good at defense in Jacksonville boy and is the contract year for him uh uh he just signed one just signed one yeah they just extended him last year there wasn't nothing wrong with him I don't understand why they did it no he's saying he tried to make money when he out there that's what he's trying to say he's trying to make money while he out there okay alright that's something you would have done Ojo when you were playing oh nah nah I ain't putting not no five dollars I would have had a dollar on there not no five yeah yeah you know you saw where I tried to bribe that referee you notice I tried to bribe him with a dollar bidder right anything more than that did they fine you for that yeah they fine me a little 20 thousand that's cool it was worth it Iconic moment.

1:02:40NFL can't take a joke.

1:02:43Shannon Sharpe:No. I said they should have slapped him. I told him they should have slapped him with a bottle. Oh, yeah. What did I say? I think I about to say $100 ,000,$200 ,000. Unk went off for me when he was on Fox, huh? On CBS. Yeah, it was so funny. Hey, Joe, Unk went off. It was funny. When I saw it, I just laughed. I just laughed. I said, you know what? I'm going to make sure I do something else the following week, too. Oh, yeah, you kept some shenanigans. I mean, I like all the dances. I like all the other stuff. The ribbon dance, and I like the sombrero. Yeah. He stayed on some bull jive, Joe.

1:03:26Shannon Sharpe:Cam Ward told The Athletic there's a target on his back. I don't think I'm being welcomed in the league with open arms. I was the first pick. I'm blessed to be on that. But at the end of the day, there's a target on my back. There's a target on everyone's back in the league, but I'm trying to prove myself to my teammates. Yep, you're absolutely right. They want to see why you're the first pick. Just like we go out there, the DB that was the first-round pick, or he won the Thorpe Award, or he won the Buckets, or whatever he won. I need to see why you won that award, bro. Absolutely. Oh, yeah, they're going to try you now.

1:04:01Yeah, there's no target. For one, obviously, when you think about first-round picks, this might be the first time in the history of the NFL the first-round pick slipped up under the radar. Because all attention is going to the fifth-round pick. If you think about it, you have slipped right up under the radar as far as media coverage and all the hoopla that has always surrounded the first pick of the draft. Yeah, because of the Shadour effect. So I'm looking forward to what Cam Ward does this season. you're going to be fine because you got some pieces over there to work with too. You got some pieces to work with.

1:04:36Shannon Sharpe:Joe, that's the same thing with Bronny James. We ain't talking about not one first round draft pick. All they talked about is North 55, Bronny James. And Cam Ward, that market he's in, that ain't a huge market. You know what I mean? No. That's another reason why he's got it. He needs Cleveland. Right. That name. Yeah.

1:05:01Shannon Sharpe:Sanders, James. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they talk more about the 55th pick in the draft than they did the top two pick. And I think the Wizards got one and the Hawks got the other. Mm-hmm. Yeah, man. But nah, Cam, you ain't got no target on your back, bro. That's everybody that come in. Everybody that's a first-round draft pick. You a first-round draft pick. People need to see. And you're the number one overall draft pick. But hey, they're going to check your ID. Every game you go in, they're checking your ID. Make sure you're old enough to be in the club. Every time. They're going to make sure you're old enough to be in the club.

1:05:38Shannon Sharpe:Yes, sir. 49ers veteran left tackle. Trent showed frustration during practice because Nick Bosa kept beating him. Nick Bosa is beating Trent a lot of time. Trent yesterday had a big reaction to a move of the ball period that was dominated by Nick Bosa. The offense was stopped by Nick Bosa. Trent came off the field exacerbated. like he banged his thigh, just felt frustrating. I think that's great for the team. I think that's going to push Trent to get better and be better throughout training camp. And he's going to be Trent Williams by the time September rolls around. I hate to use iron sharpened irons, but it's definitely what's happening in camp.

1:06:14Shannon Sharpe:Williams is 37 and recently said that he wants to play until his 40s. Boy, that's tough. Hey, listen, if you're going to get beat in camp consistently, especially by somebody that's going to frustrate you, well who better than Nick Bosa to get yourself where you gotta get to you're not gonna be facing Nick Bosa's 16 Nick Bosa's nah absolutely not excuse me 17 now they got 17 games they ain't gonna be 17 Nick Bosa's hey but you got one over there Jared Burst he ain't no easy victory yeah you're right he's a little undersized a little quicker don't let that undersized fool you oh yeah he can go now he can go And I think The Cardinals Got one of the Eagles defensive linemen Oh one number seven last year Right Nah not Redick Nah not Redick He was a single digit though He was a single digit if I'm not mistaken You think so Who was it Who was that D lineman That went to

1:07:30um

1:07:44yeah joshua yeah yeah yeah he was a single digit right ash was he i could have swore yeah he was a single digit i could have swore he was

1:07:57Shannon Sharpe:because he's the one that said he could have easily been the uh super bowl mvp yeah yeah so they got a they got some guys that can get off the rock on you now

1:08:09Shannon Sharpe:yeah but you know trend's coming to a trend's coming out i think trent was nick last year he came he's coming off an injury yeah he had a few injuries he was out along with uh mcafree was out? Mm-hmm. They had a couple of guys out. They lost the wide receiver. IU. IU, Brett. Yep. Had a couple of DBs. Hifanga. Look, it's not going to be as easy as the 49ers think because they lost a lot of guys. Drake Greenlaw was late coming back. He's gone now. The DB, he ended up going to the Colts. not Ward yeah wait the Davis Ward left yep yep he was nice that's why Andy paid him he was nice alright it's time for our final segment of the evening it's time for Q and A.

1:09:27Shannon Sharpe:Zeus, the bully said, Ocho, you make no sense. Jerry Goff rating higher than Jalen Hurts. Sanders, 67. Wasn't he the best QB in college? Voted by his peers? Crazy work. You heard what he just asked me, right? What did he ask you? rating is based on statistics. Does he know that? So he just compared comparing Jared Goff, that, and Jalen Hurts. Like, what are we, what are we talking about? He said you, he said you, you got a Jared Goff rating higher than Jalen Hurts. And, I have a question for you. What did, what did Goff throw for last year? He threw for over 4 ,000 yards. Okay, What did Jalen Hurst throw for last year?

1:10:17Shannon Sharpe:Not over 4 ,000. Okay. There's your answer. You don't get ratings based off accolades. And we know we won the Super Bowl. The rating is based off the, oh, my God. You know what? Don't worry about it. Dulo Gante, I've been playing Madden since it was on Sega Genesis with three buttons. Ocho, I challenge you to a duel. You not beat me. You not beat me. You not beat me in nothing. Madden. FIFA matter of fact any gaming console you not beat me in nothing from Atari TurboGrafx-16 Nintendo nothing nobody everybody can't beat that guy Cam Newton say he that guy Cam sorry as hell at Madman Cam can't beat me doing nothing tennis pickleball golf nothing Dr.

1:11:11Shannon Sharpe:Frankie L. Bellamy hey fam It was good to see you, Sterling, back on Club Shaysha again. So happy for your family. Love y 'all. Thank you, Doc. We really appreciate that. Yeah, we are very, very excited. Aaron Owen said, man, I'm excited to see Mims, Amarius Mims, this season. The Bengals got them one. I think he's a future All-Pro. Ocho, that's your team? That's your neck of the woods? He's nice. He's nice. I've been seeing a few clips of him playing very well. Also, I saw some clips today where he wasn't in with the first unit. I'm not sure what was going on with that. Maybe. He a slot? He left.

1:11:51The right side. Right side. Right tackle.

1:11:53Shannon Sharpe:Oh, you're talking about. Oh, he'll tackle. Oh, okay. The big boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's nice. He's real nice.

1:12:10Shannon Sharpe:Kevin Slybhoffer. who do y 'all think will win rookie of the year on both sides ooh that's a good one I'm going with the boy for the Jags I'm going with Travis Travis gonna win both of them I think Abdul Carter I think Abdul Carter yeah I think he'll probably win defensive player of the year yeah he can get off that ball he can get off the rock man man this man got a toolbox He can get off the rock I done seen about three different moves On film from him In practice Yeah he can get off the rock He ripping, he spinning Dwight Freeney I'm like what the hell He can get off the wall Ocho He can Joe He can get off the rock

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Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to Mike Tomlin saying him and Aaron Rodgers have a bromance, Stephen Jones elaborates on how they deal with contracts in Dallas, & Bears Rookie gets chewed out by Ben Johnson at practice, and much more!

 

1:00:25 - Demar Derozen said Bball YNs different
1:08:15 - Trey Hendrickson pulled up to camp to avoid being fined

1:16:15 - Tomlin and Rodgers gotta Bromance
1:23:20 - Davante Adams clears the air with Jimmy G
1:29:30 - Stephen Jones on some BS about contract negotiations
1:37:40 - Luther Burden III kicked off field
1:45:15 - MPJ spoke about Nets practice facilities
1:48:45 - Draft Kings asked AI to rank best franchise by sport
1:52:45 - Jalen Ramsey wearing $5 on his shoulder pads at training camp
1:55:10 - Cam Ward says he got a target on his back
1:57:25 - Trent Williams frustrated during practice cause Bosa keeps beating him
2:00:55 - Q & Ayyyyy

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