Nightcap Hour 2: WBC STRIPS Bud Crawford of TITLE BELT + Boxer Alycia Baumgardner joins NIGHTCAP + OBJ RESPONDS to CRITICS on SPENDING HABITS + Abdul Carter HASN’T LEARNED his LESSON

24:57Shannon Sharpe:What advice would you give young girls that you wish someone had given you? when you were younger? What advice would you give young ladies? Yeah, I think it's important to give a young woman advice to know what it is to stand in power, what it is to trust your power, what it is to be still and to follow through when things get hard, when things don't seem to go your way. I think it's important to really mentor the same way I was poured into somebody else because it really goes a long way. Life is hard, y 'all. And also to be a woman in a space that you may not even know who you are. People have identity issues.

25:39You need to know who you are. So to really encourage those to know who they are, to know themselves, to be able to love them. Loving yourself goes a long way, knowing who you are, for sure.

25:52Shannon Sharpe:You're a fighter. You mentioned you're a model. Outside of that, is there anything? Do you want media is there anything that you do outside of those two things or anything that you would like to do outside of those two things listen the the road is open for whatever is is ahead i love media i love talking i think it's important to to be in different spaces y 'all know we got one of the greatest games tomorrow the cowboys versus the lions okay you're cowboys or lions fan listen i gotta give it to you like this okay the eagles i love that they have the champion mindset and they did that, showed that.

26:27Also, the Cowboys done showed up in these last two games. What are we doing? What are we doing? Are you a Cowboys fan?

26:37Shannon Sharpe:Yes or no? Yes, I'm a Cowboys fan. I'm in Dallas. I'm a fan. I'm a fan of the winner's team. I'm a fan. I'm a fan of what people win. I know. baby, you can't do that. Who are you a fan of before they were winning? Like, who is your team? Ocho, she don't remember them winning. Listen, I still am a Lions fan. When I lived in Detroit, I seen the Lions go from here to here to be the underdog, to being a top dog and really showing out every game. I'm like, yo, that's the Lions. That's that Detroit hunger that they got, right? and then you know I left Detroit came to Dallas and you know the atmosphere of being in Dallas and what the Cowboys represent I think it still shows just the the grit that they still want to be that team like they were years ago right so you can't switch allegiance like that just because you relocated somewhere else now I know that listen everybody's like you need to pick a side I say I understand that but you know I picked the winner side you know I'm going to cheat again in all the world.

27:51Shannon Sharpe:That ain't no picking over. That's front running. That's not fair. Ocho, boy, y 'all got to take them hater jackets off. No, no, no. Hey, Joe, I'm not hating. I'm just saying. What she said, Ocho. What you want her to do? That's what you're going for. That's what you want her to do. That's her thing. What you want her to change the life? So let me ask you a question. Alicia, where are you originally from? I'm from Fremont, Ohio. Okay. Which is. So you should be a Browns or a Bengals fan. No, you're a Bengals fan. I'm definitely, listen, I'm definitely a Michigan fan. Charles Woodson's from my hometown.

28:23So it kind of falls into, it kind of falls into that. I know I'm all over the place, but that's okay. Cause I can't be. You are right. I can't be. I can't be. I come from, listen y 'all, I come from a small country town in Ohio. And so being in a city like Michigan, you know, I've always been a Michigan fan. So, you know, I'm like, you know, I like this, you know, Ohio State. I mean, shout out to them. They just won. I get that. but you know.

28:48Shannon Sharpe:Cheetah type, you know what? She gonna show up wanting one team to win, the other team score first. Yeah, I'm for that team right there. Yeah, let's go. Nah, nah, nah. I'm gonna stick to my side. I'm gonna stick to my side. Okay. You know what? To go back to boxing, I have one more. Obviously, A.V., you know how much I love boxing. Obviously, that's why I keep asking these goddamn questions. And I don't mean to put the carriage before the horse, but December 19th, I already know what it's gonna look like. I already know what you're gonna do. I understand your style. I've seen the young lady that you're fighting.

29:17I don't mean to put the goddamn character for the horse, but if you were to want to fight someone else, if you were to have a name that you want to see after this victory, because I'm telling you what's going to happen. Is there anybody out there that you want to fight after this one? I would love to fight Katie Taylor. I would love to fight Katie Taylor. Katie Taylor is a pedigree of a fighter. Now, let me not say that of a boxer. and because I have skills like a boxer, you will see a boxer that's so high class and so high level that you will appreciate. You would think, you wouldn't even say two women are fighting.

29:58You would just enjoy just the boxing aspect, right? And I think, you know, Katie has done a lot for the sport, has changed the game and I would love a fight with her.

30:07Shannon Sharpe:Those fights with Sariano was unbelievable. I know. They went down to the wire. I thought the first fight, I thought she had her out of there. But, hey, Taylor dug deep. She dug deep. She dug deep, and I respect that. We got a couple more boxing questions. You saw where the WBC stripped Bud of the title because he wouldn't pay the sanctioning fees. You got stripped of your title because, you know, they like, nah, the women fighting, you know, 12 rounds at three minutes each. Nah, we're not a part of that. So are you okay with this? you know like like anything we make the belt the belt don't make us come on and it's important that you know we we work very hard to get to a space where we can say we're undisputed and we are world champion but it does not um it will not take away from the fact that you can't say i did that and again you know boxing is is a freelance sport y 'all boxing is is a wow wow that still is and so it's just one of those things you got to make sure that you are going to be straight with yourself because nobody else is going to take care of you like you're going to take care of yourself.

31:17That's what that looks like. I had the opportunity to keep my belt, but I said, you know what? No. I'm going to accept this challenge. I'm going to do this 12 rounds, 3 minutes and make history. That's exactly what I'm doing.

31:31Shannon Sharpe:I like it. I like it. Jake Paul, Anthony, Joshua. If this is on the up and up. Do you give Jake Paul a realistic chance? Anthony Joshua is a super heavyweight. He won the gold medal. We know he got dynamite in that right hand. He's a ginormous of 6 '4", 245, 250. I think his promoter said that he's like 265, so he's going to have to shed some weight right now. Tell us what you think. Give us the fighters' approach. What are you thinking about this fight? Yeah. So listen, my eye test saying a lot of things. All right. And for real, you know, listen, this is so cliche to say, but any any fighter has a chance.

32:15Right. We've seen Jake Paul knock people out and we've seen Anthony Joshua knock people out. They both have a punching a punching chance. Right. Who is going to who's going to have a better game plan? That's the question. Right. You have a height difference. You have a weight difference. But again, I have to give credit where credit's due. Jake has been able to train with some quality trainers from Detroit that I know and he's been able to progress in a way that a lot of people haven't that people still don't believe in so this is an opportunity for Jake to really showcase some real skill and a real game plan to be Anthony Joshua but then on the other hand I respect Anthony Joshua who is also a heavyweight champion who is also saying you know what you really playing it crazy I'm about to show you what real boxing is about right because there's still this is it real is it not it's it's real

33:07Shannon Sharpe:we saw we saw jake paul knock out people that weren't boxers the one boxer that he fought he did not beat which was tyson fury's tommy fury now this is a real professional prize fighting boxer a heavyweight champion this this is this is different than knocking out people that came from the nba or came from mma or things of that nature this is an actual prize fighter that still that still fights actively this is true but you know one thing about the mind when you believe in yourself and you see no other way but when that's that's that's the mentality that jake has and i think he's just shown that every time he's having the ring regardless of who it is i'm here i did this i'm about to show y 'all again and i and i like you know the mentality matters but what you have to know you're gonna go in there when even if it's delusion i don't know yeah yep you You know, and one last boxing question, my last question, and it's more of a statement and a question for you.

34:06Obviously, Unc and Joe, I'm letting y 'all know ahead of time, Alicia, there's another really good fight. Two of the greatest fighters of all time that are going to be fighting soon. Three minute, 12 rounds. Andre Ward. Andre Ward is coming back out of retirement. He's going to fight me sometime in 2026. with your expertise and you knowing how much I love and how long I've been training what round you think I'm going to knock Andre Ward ass out next year

34:35Shannon Sharpe:keep it 100 12 rounds hopefully 4 oh so you want me to put him out in 4 yeah I don't want you to go I don't want you to get in that deep water yeah you know I can swim after round 7 tell him Alicia after that round 7 you start getting in the deep water listen we're going to have to see how them legs are I will say this though, you got a great stance though. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You got the fundamentals. I'm not going to take that away. So I think when you can learn to, to, you know, use that back leg a little more, push all that thing, you know, the power, you, you may have a, a puncher's chance.

35:12Oh, that's me. That's me. That's me. That's me. That's me.

35:15Shannon Sharpe:For real. For real. Yeah. Well, good luck on the night team, Alicia. Thank you for joining us. We really appreciate you taking time out to stop by night. Capper. I'm sure I chat chat really appreciate you stopping by best of luck. And when you win the, when you, I don't know, she got a belt. If you got a belt, take that belt, come back and show it to us. Cause we ain't see no belts tonight. Listen, I got all the belts, sir. Like I said, I got all the belts. I am the belt, but yes, you will see. Thank you very much. I appreciate your time. Good luck. And we'll see you down the road. Yeah. Alicia Baumgartner joining us tonight.

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38:25Some products contain allulose. See nutrition info on Hero.co for sodium and sugar content. Right out. Hey, hey, Joe. What's up? Hey, I'm finna beat the shit out of Andre Ward, boy. I hope you, hey, hey, Dre, I hope you see this, Dre. You gotta get past Depot first. I love you like a brother, but boy, it's going down, boy.

38:41Shannon Sharpe:Hey, boy, you writing a lot of checks, Rojo. Huh? You writing a lot of checks. It's one thing about my checks. They going to bounce. I know.

38:53Shannon Sharpe:Hey, guys, check this out. Odell Beckham tweeted, presumably. I guess it's at us. Boy, you can't say nothing in the world nowadays. That's why I've been in my own lane, my own world, and put it the way. People love to take ish out of context to rationalize a statement in their own head that makes sense to them. What a world. video came out today of odell selling game-worn chrome heart cleats for 50k yeah yeah hey remember remember when i um you were telling me the story on and i said i i thought i i thought he was giving um perspective and context on how difficult it is to to be able to manage money i didn't i didn't really think he was talking about himself no but Ocho if you got Ocho what's difficult about managing 60 million liquid hold on well what's what's difficult um the number the percentage of athletes NBA NFL MLB is damn near 90 percent now so I mean it's difficult that's why I thought I thought I thought because the first thing when he said it and gave context and perspective on how difficult it is I thought he was meaning in general not specifically talking about himself that's all but go ahead i i get what he's saying yes sir you're feeling first of all spending four million dollars and in yearly expenses yes sir your home family home x y and z well first of all to spend that you need to make at least 10 million right because you depending on where you are now if you're in a state that takes 50 now if you're in lost you're in nevada you're in texas you in florida i think ohio has no state income tax i think arizona is like two percent so if you're in one of those states so it's going to take about 10 million to do that to have that kind of lifestyle right now now what happens is ocho is that you still try to maintain that maintain that lifestyle joe when you're not bringing in 10 million and you're still spending out that money kind of money going out that's why they go out that's why do you you see guys go belly up ocho is that you don't change your spending habits right the same way if you're an athlete you eat whatever you want you work out now all of a sudden you're not an athlete and you still eat whatever you want now all of a sudden db look like d lineman that's what happens with money hey hey um think about what you just said hey joe think about what you just said right think about what i'm just said real quick right is you you live in a lifestyle when the money's coming in fast right you you become accustomed to that lifestyle that lifestyle actually becomes your image and it becomes an identity yeah so once you stop playing the transition to be able to stop and have the discipline to be able to cut it off to become a a minimalist almost in a sense it's almost impossible it's hard because you always want to maintain that lifestyle and that image because what's the first thing everybody that you're trying to goddamn impress don't say oh he ain't got it no more oh he broke first time on your you ain't got a new car man hey he must be doing bad right man you don't ain't using here with a new whip every other yeah hey hey joe hey joe and unc one thing about it boy i learned early i learned early i did not want to try to keep up with the joneses i did not want to keep hey joe and i and joe i did it when i was making the bulk of my money joe joe i came in the nfl already cheap as hell i didn't care about people making fun of me i didn't care about certain types of women not want to date me because they know yeah he ain't gonna be paying nothing he's not you know you ain't getting nothing that's that's okay but i understand i understand dealing with you is nothing but a liability anyway right you know i got the table and the legs you got ain't gonna hold it up hello hello you know so you understand that you play the game joe it's all a game and the better you learn to play the game the longer you will be able to be without it's okay but so So many of us, so many of us are so caught up and looking like we fucking got it.

42:52Like I don't, everybody wanna be rich. Everybody wanna look like they, like shit. No, that's not reality. Social media has us fooled. It has all of us fooled.

43:03Shannon Sharpe:They ain't got me fooled. They ain't got me fooled. Cause I know damn well, I do okay. And I ain't living like that. I ain't got it like that. You know what's scary, Joe? Joe this is scary part and this is for men and women when it comes to the people that try to maintain that lifestyle and you know they don't make the kind of money to continue that lifestyle especially if you don't play sports if you don't play sports and you and all this flashy shit that means you're willing to do anything anything to maintain that image that in itself is dangerous Joe yeah if you leave the sport and you get you a gig and you making money like stephen a you making money like strahan you making money like uh uh uh tony romo you making money like uh tom brady yeah take off wait hold on hold on now what you're not gonna do is i ain't gonna mean i don't mean to put the people in our business but if you're making money like uncle ocho hey listen boy hey okay You ain't spending nobody like that.

44:08Shannon Sharpe:Huh? Uncle don't set everybody up. Everybody good, mom good, sister good, everybody good. Listen, listen. Uncle, I'm gonna say this one more time. I see them numbers at the end of each month. Yeah, just add us to that goddamn equation. I'm gonna tell you what my grandma always told me. Huh? We do okay. Hey, speaking into existence. Hello. Huh, Honjo? We do okay, Ocho. We do okay. Hey, will you say okay? Add three more whys to it. Okay. Ocho, I saw a guy today. I read a quote. Yes, sir. He basically said, he says, as you become more famous and you become more well-off, relationships become more transactional.

44:54Shannon Sharpe:Understand that. Understand that. I'm learning that. Do me a favor. Do me a favor. Just in case the chat didn't hit you, because I got one for you. say it one more time say it one more time so make sure the chat hear you the more famous you become and the more well up you become the relationships become more transactional y 'all know what transactional is yes i agree i agree hey let me let me get let me get let me dive a little deep before you real quick uncle joe even if you're not wealthy even if you're not making millions even if you're making a hundred thousand or even if you're a thousandaire you know you know to get paid every two weeks the individual that you're dealing with is still dealing with you based on the ability for you to provide and give them stability in a sense of peace always always so it still aligns those those same that same quote and analogy that unc used it still aligns regardless of how much you make based on your partner ask your partner and tell her to be truthful if you lost the opportunity to provide if she'll still be there ask your partner if you being able to make things convenient and the opportunity dealing with you didn't present this didn't present itself in a good manner if she would still be there and tell her to be honest with you and admit you know a lot of women to say oh i don't deal with nobody for no money it ain't it ain't about that like come on now let's stop hey and and the funny thing about it is you're always paying for who you're dealing with and the only thing this is the only thing chad i want you to do me a small favor go to my twitter and read my bio now there's a joke at the beginning but i tell the truth towards the end and i'm gonna just leave it just go to my twitter and read my bio and the truth is sitting right there no matter what they try to tell you that's what it all come down to no matter what they say yeah but i just think the thing is look a hundred million dollar contract i think everybody understands a hundred million nobody's getting all hundred million of that you've got to pay you got to pay federal income tax i don't give a damn what state you live in you've got to pay federal income tax and you have something called a jock tax if you're a professional athlete and you go to certain states you got to pay for the money that you earn there.

47:16Shannon Sharpe:If you go to certain states and you work, you have to pay money that you earn in that state. I think everybody is, nobody is under the assumption anymore that when they see $100 million, somebody actually got$100 million. But to get $60 million, to get, basically, if you, like I said, you live in a tax-free state and you only got to pay 30, let's just say on the high end, you're paying 37 % federal income tax. That means of$1 million, you get$637 ,000. You get$630 ,000. So if you bring home, if you got 60 million liquid, theoretically, Ocho, you put that in a fund, you put that in a fund, you're going to get 5 % to 8%.

47:54Shannon Sharpe:There'll be some years you get 10%, 12%. Yeah. So even if you're just getting 5 % on 60 million, that's$3 million a year. Man, if you can't live off$3 million a year, you got issues. Yeah, we're in trouble. I'm not saying like a Jay-Z or somebody that got full-time security and they got all these chefs and they got all these people. Obviously, it requires more than that. But I'm saying for the average person, like myself, Joe, you man, if you can't live by 3 million whoa, whoa, whoa listen, I'm not average I'm extraordinary I'm cheap as hell but I'm saying people like us because the average person is not going to be in a situation to make that kind of money I'm not talking about look, if you make a million dollars a year unless you got extraordinary expenses you should be good.

48:44Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, absolutely. Get you a nice little house payment. Say, you know, somewhere between$5 ,000 and$7 ,500 a month. Get you a nice car. You and your wife get a nice car. She got one, you got one. Kids, if you make that kind of money, Ocho, it's hard. You're going to probably be sending your kids to private school. It just is what it is. There are very few people that make a million dollars a year and their kids go to public school. I'm just being honest with you. Now, I know everybody say, I'll send my kids. It's easy for you to say that when you're not in that situation. But most people that make that kind of money, their kids go to private school.

49:21Shannon Sharpe:And what we were trying to do, we didn't say it was open. We were just trying to say how people go belly up. Because when you have kids, multiple kids, and you live in certain states, and you pay$5 ,000,$10 ,000,$15 ,000,$20 ,000 per child, you got three kids. If you're paying that kind of money for the kids, guess what else you're paying for? Private school. Private schools cost you somewhere between$10 ,000 and$30 ,000 a year. So now, compound that. Yeah. So you're paying$100 ,000 a year. Ooh. $100 ,000. Yeah. No, you're paying$100 ,000. Yeah. So if you pay$20 ,000,$20 ,000, that's$60 ,000 a month times 18 years.

50:01Shannon Sharpe:Hey. Plus, let's just say, oh, children, you got three kids and they go to private school, and that's another$20 ,000. So that's another 60 ,000 a year times 18. Well, they're not going to stay the same because private schools go up every year. So it might start out at 20. And by the time they get to be seniors, that's probably be 30, 35. So we're just trying to explain to people how it happens. Is that that's why they say, hey, get you one. If I could do it over again, I'd have all my kids for one. I'd have been married, save myself a lot of money, a lot of attorney fees also. See, that's why I'm thankful.

50:37hey joe sometimes i gotta get up see that's what i'm gonna do just this conversation in general i'm i'm gonna get on my knees after the show and i'm gonna thank god i'm gonna thank god because unk just ran off them goddamn numbers right and that's just and you think joe i got eight joe i got eight joe and i ain't listen hey hold on listen to me this let me tell you while i'm joe let me tell you what i'm grateful though joe i'm just ran off them numbers right boy i ain't never seen i never had to do nothing like that joe you know you know private school none of your kids with the private schools and none of that?

51:08Nah, nah, nah, nah, Joe. Joe, my kid needed character. It's a different time now, though, Ocho.

51:12Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, my kid needed character, Joe. It's a different time. Yeah. Even now, Ocho, what you was paying, you'd probably have to double that. Even just because the cost of living is higher. You're talking about 15, 18, 20 years ago. So you know what the cost is right now. So obviously the cost of living has gone up. So is the cost of raising a child. It's gone up. It's high. Hey Joe, some of them numbers uncle was ripping off too, you know, them people, them type of people, you know, having kids by certain people, it ain't really about the child in the first place. Yeah. That's for them. Come on now.

51:49Come on now.

51:51Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Can you imagine having to pay for a child? 50 ,000 a month? Ooh. 100 ,000 a month? Yeah. Two years old? What the hell? What we doing? Uh-huh. Boy. the fact that they that they grant that to some people oh yeah absolutely because it's based based on it's based on income it's mind-boggling i'm like man how how somebody need 30 40 50k a month for a child bro i know a guy that was paying in the early 2000 was playing 14 000 a month i know yeah i know a few cats who paying more than that a month i know dude playing 17 000 a month 22 000 a month i'm like man 168 000 a year is is is where you file it too though you know where they have them kids at now there are some states that the map is capped you can only get x amount you might only get 3 500 you only get five thousand.

52:51Shannon Sharpe:And then some states they base it on how much the father makes. And they make you responsible for the private tuition because they say if the child should be afforded a life that if the child was with you, that the child wouldn't enjoy without you. Absolutely. I ain't telling what somebody told me. Y 'all can talk about a whole lot. I don't know what you're talking about. Bull jive. I'm with you when you're right. Hey, hey, boy, that's I'm glad I'm glad boy those I had kids from boy they wasn't like that man yeah Joe I'm Joe I'm getting on my knee I just just it make me cringe hearing the numbers that I'm rolling off and also I'm present Joe I'm active Joe and that's my thing these numbers I'm telling y 'all I done heard about cats paying man they they almost got custody of their kids and they still paying and still playing this amount.

53:49Shannon Sharpe:Absolutely. You get the kids during the summer, you get the kids from one to two months, guess what? You still got to send that same money. So we're going to move on. Abdul Carter was asked today about hearing teammates say he needs to grow up. He responded, I'll take it. The guys who say that are the guys I look up to. I respect. If they say something like that, I've got to look at myself and say, how can I get better? Lawrence Taylor also had a message for Abdul Carter saying, wake up. This is what you work for. This is what you want to be. So now that you're there, wake up. I like it. That's a good response from him.

54:20That's a grown-up response, too.

54:22Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. That's a grown-up response, you know, but normally. You the number three in the pick in the draft, and they got to tell you, Ocho, you sleeping in the meeting, you missed. Come on now, Ocho. Yeah, you right. At some point, we got to hold these kids' accounts. He ain't a kid. He a grown-ass man. He paying bills. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They got to, hey. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, um, we done jumped on him twice already. We done jumped on him twice already. We understand, Joe, being an ex-basketball player, Ocho and I being ex-football players, we understand that some guys mature a little slower than other guys, especially when it comes to being professional at their occupation.

54:57But at some point in time, bro, how many times they got –

55:02Shannon Sharpe:this is twice in a matter of less than a month that you've missed time because of something that you can't control. Yeah, three weeks to be exact. Yeah, that's not college. This is not college. They're not going to babysit you, bro. Man, hey look. He getting a little grace too, Joe, because you know he is the third pick in the draft. But he only gonna get, well, actually third pick, he gonna get a lot of grace. Hey man, when I came here. He's on another team. Hey, when I came into the league, Uncle Ocho, I was so nervous and scared, bro. I tried to do everything the right way. Yes, try to be not on time, but way before time.

55:44Shannon Sharpe:You know what I mean? But because I came up and I was coached by D. Nolan Richardson at the University of Arkansas, who was so old school, he didn't play none of that, bro. Like, I was groomed for all this before I even got to the pros. So when I did get somewhere and a coach was playing these mind games, man, I done been through all that. I done seen it all. He was ready. Yeah. Hey, look, I'm still going to show up. I'm still going to do my work. I'm going to still do what I have to do. and I'm going to play hard. So I understood that at a young age, man. Yeah, I like it. I like it. Mayor Porter used to say, boy, that's the old school way.

56:20Shannon Sharpe:If a man gives you an honest salary, you give him an honest day's work. You be on time. You know what time you got to be at work. Yeah. Oh, I thought, bro, you come to work every day. Work started at 8 o 'clock. What you mean you thought the day you started at 8 o 'clock? I just, I just, I just, I'm just going to be, I'm just a sticker for time. I mean, maybe I'm too much of a stickler for time. But my time is valuable. It's too valuable. I don't have a whole lot of it. I definitely don't. I'm on the other side. You know what I'm saying? I'm 57. I'm on the other side, Ocho. I ain't got a whole lot of time.

56:52Shannon Sharpe:And there's going to be a time. There's going to be a time that I'm going to wish I had some time back. Right. And I'm waiting on some jack leg, that bull jiving around. Mm-hmm. Nah. Yeah. Nah. All right, Ocho and Joe, it's time to play a fave presented by PrizePix. All right. you got it

57:18Shannon Sharpe:the first one's for you Joe Anthony Edwards will have more than 40 points, rebound and assist so he'll have when you combine his points, rebound and assist it'll be more than 40 who they playing? Pelicans oh yeah points rebound assist 40 he for sure getting that hell he probably didn't get that off a point he getting that alright Derrick Queen he'll have at least 4 assists to play the Timberwolves I like Big Queen I'm giving him yeah I'm giving him 4 assists yeah alright we going 4 George Pickett Ocho 81 receiving yards absolutely tomorrow? Yep Hello. Terry and Arnold out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not sure if he was in it that made much of a difference, but I'm going more.

58:12Shannon Sharpe:Jamison Williams, more than 83.5 receiving yards. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. They have no choice. You'll get 84 yards. Get your, your, your Cowboys. Hey, Joe is a, I'm in Ross St. Brown playing. Cause you know, it's a game. It's a game time decision with his ankle. Ooh. That's gonna determine a lot. Yeah, cause they're wrong. Cormorant, Ocho. Nah, he ain't getting that. I don't know, I don't know. And the thing is, hey, Cowboys D-Line been playing really good. Oh yeah. Come on, give some love now. Give some love now. Clowney and Williams and you know, Diggy Zua, Clark. Quinty Williams. They shaking it up up there.

58:57Shannon Sharpe:Kenny Clark. Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. We trying to make a little late, late surge, you know, going down the stretch. I'm going to say under. That's what I'm saying, under. $25 to win a buck 50. Download the app today. Use Coach Shannon to get$50 in lineups after you play your first$5 lineup. Prize picks. It's good to be right. Hey, hey, Joe. What's up? Hey, I got a joke. You want to hear it? Let me hear it. What you got? Hey, aren't you ready? Yeah. Chad y 'all ready? Okay. Chad stay ready. Alright. Hey. What's a kidnapper's favorite shoe? A kidnapper's favorite shoe? Yeah. Hush puppy. Joe what you think?

59:47Shannon Sharpe:Kidnapper's favorite shoe.

59:55Shannon Sharpe:I don't know what your hair. Y 'all ready? Yeah. White Vans

1:00:05Shannon Sharpe:This man here Time for our final segment of the evening It's time for Q and A This man here

1:00:22Shannon Sharpe:Aaron Jones Any Buffalo fans in the chat You can get this work You know damn well Slay and Miss wanted to come back to Philly. Wave of Wire needs to go. Darius Slay was released. He asked for and got his release by the Steelers. He was picked up by the Buffalo Bills, Ocho. He was hoping to get back, maybe potentially get back to Philly, but it's not going to happen. He's going to be in Buffalo.

1:00:48Shannon Sharpe:Kemper Nowhere Jr. I'll always be here for you and Ocho. Love always. Appreciate that, Kemper. Appreciate that. Aaron Owens, 5-1-3. Devontae Adams has 117 touchdowns. I think he got a shot to catch T.O. and Randy before he retires. I agree. Playing the way he's playing right now. I don't know if Jerry is 197 when he reached. He's got 14 right now. I can see a scenario where he gets 20. Absolutely. He's on the right team to do it too. He's on the right team in the right system where they throw the ball in volume and the opportunities are going to always present themselves. Hotwater Cornbread Fidget said, can we get a new Lakers in five?

1:01:32Shannon Sharpe:We got something brewing. We definitely got something brewing. We got to find out who they going to get. You know, we got Luke on our side now, so we got something. We definitely got something brewing. Quaz336 Treyfoe native here. CP3 is a legend. Would love to see Houston pick him up. Much love. I don't think. You think anybody else pick him up, Joe? I think he'll get picked up, but I don't think Houston going to pick him up.

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1:02:06Shannon Sharpe:Frank L. Bellamy. Oh, that was a great interview with Dr. Bryant. Sounds like she's giving you the same advice I did. I just don't get it. You've been hit by men who weigh over 200 pounds who can bench press a Buick, but you won't let the right woman touch your heart. Hey, hold on, hold on. We supposed to be getting married next year. You got somebody lined up, don't you? Yeah, yeah. I mean, Dr. Frank, you know, I'm with you when you're right now. I'm with you when you're right. Okay, yeah. We good, Doc. We good. Because, you know, we having a dual wedding. Well, actually, triple. Because, Joe, you say you finna come too, huh?

1:02:38Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, I'm gonna be there, old Joe. No, I ain't talking about be there. Be part of it. We can be the first people. We can do the show. We can do nightcap during the wedding. Yeah, we got to work out the logistics and all that. We got to sit down at the round table about this. Okay, okay, okay. But I think we'd be the first ones to ever have a podcast. It sounds good. It sounds good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's nice. Smoke Face, 3-3-3. He's six on the scoring list all time for the Clippers, number one in assists, and he can't say anything? So let me ask you a question. Can that help him being number six in the scoring and number one in assists?

1:03:15Shannon Sharpe:Can that help them now? That's why I keep telling y 'all you got to update your resume.

1:03:23Shannon Sharpe:You do. Man, that's crazy. I don't, I think you, I'm with you when you got to update your resume, but I think the work that he's put in, man, unless it was him shouting and yelling at the coaches or the assistant coaches, I think the man should have an input, though. He should be able to say something. Like I said. He said it. And they say, okay, we don't want to hear it no more. He said it. He did, Joe. That's probably what got him out of there. You're probably right. You're probably right. I think, and another thing, by him, you know, he spent the bulk of his years playing for the Clippers, man.

1:04:01Shannon Sharpe:He probably, you know, he probably had a sense of comfortability in being there and being able to voice what he felt, you know, he's seen. So, yeah, maybe they just weren't having it.

1:04:17Shannon Sharpe:Gary Julian has him sat on the bench for years. his voice meant the most in the locker room. So he definitely blamed, ignore him. You should know better. Chris Paul made that franchise relevant. Bro, Haslam never left. That was his sole role. I mean, Chris Paul, how many teams have Chris Paul been on since he left the Clippers? Yeah. He been at OKC. He been at Houston. He been at Phoenix. He been at San Antonio. UD from Florida. And UD has been there. That's the only franchise he's played for. He's from Florida, yeah. Yes! Yeah. Ma 'am Seven, anyone with two eyes knows MJ is the GOAT. Well, anyone with what?

1:05:13Shannon Sharpe:Two eyes? I got three eyes. Two eyes. I'm a Cyclops. I got three. Because it's brawn to me. J.J. Carver, 80. At this point, reach out to Elgato for sponsorship. We definitely. Lil David, 61. Giannis won a chip for the team that he was drafted from. He can leave if he wants. Bran ran to Cleveland because he could not win. He ran to Miami because he couldn't win in Cleveland. Okay. Did Bron win one in Cleveland? Didn't he come back and win one? Yeah. Bron never got traded. Bron never asked to get traded.

1:05:52Shannon Sharpe:played his years out in Cleveland, went to Miami, played four years in Miami, went back to Cleveland, played four years in Cleveland. LeBron never got traded, never asked to get traded. I don't have a problem with guys leaving and getting traded. I get a problem with guys trying to throw shade when LeBron did something and they secretly turn around and do the exact same thing. That's the only problem I got. I ain't got a problem with Giannis wanting to leave. Hey, go where you feel you have a better chance to win. Yeah. But I remember a couple years ago, and y 'all remember it too. Babin Patel, Giannis to the Warriors for Kaminga, Pazeski, Pazemski, excuse me, and two picks.

1:06:38Shannon Sharpe:No, that's not going to do it. Give me Steph Curry and two L pick. Oh, man, come on now. Okay, then. So, no, get to stepping. That ain't happening. Triple F's cop Saturday says shout out to Elgato for keep showing up nightcap. Ocho come on man get your money back. Also pay Unk his money yeah do that Ocho Robert Goldman's Unk you told Bun B you want to host nightcap at the Houston Rodeo next year. Do you have the date? I want to plan flights and hotel in advance. Go Bears I know we're going to reach out to Bun. See what's going on we got a couple nightcap. That's going to be live hold on y 'all going to get out there Y 'all gonna bull ride and all that?

1:07:20No, no, no, no, we gonna host the show. Hey, I'ma ride the bulls and, hey, Joe, I'ma do everything. We gonna make that a part of the show. That's gonna be an extension of the show. I'm finna go out there crazy, but Joe, but you know, Joe, you know I ride bulls, horses. I do all that, Joe.

1:07:37Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, hey, they say if you ain't living life on the edge, you taking up too much space. Yeah, who you telling? Yeah, okay. That's okay. I'm only taking it to the space that I occupy. I ain't occupying nobody else's space, so don't worry about what I'm doing over here. Shelter Pope, who's winning a three-on-three to 11? Nightcap, Big 3 versus 520. Oh, we got them? They say what? They're talking about Big 3, us, me, you, Ocho, against 520. We got them. Hold on. Hey, matter of fact, whoever just said that, while I was just thinking about that earlier today, having all the podcasters, all the podcasts, 520, the pivot, busting with the boys.

1:08:19Shannon Sharpe:The pivot not beating us, no. Hold on, but listen, just something competitive where we all competing in something. I mean, that would be so fun. Like a podcast war or something. I don't know. I don't know. What we playing? They say 3-on-3 to 11. 3-on-3. We good. Them boys like that here, man. We good. Hey, Joe will have all left because I'm beating him. Man, we good. Get out on the block, Joe. Yeah. Oh, Joe, can you shoot? Yeah, I can shoot, Joe. Don't worry about it, Joe. You got left in you. Hey, Joe. Get on the block. He ain't going to get. We won't find out if he can shoot because I ain't passing him ish.

1:09:02Hey, don't worry about it. Hey, I'm like Shay out there on the court now. That's what we not going to do.

1:09:06Shannon Sharpe:All right, all right, all right. Hey, Joe. What's up? Joe, we saw you. We saw you. We saw you. We saw you. No, you're not like Shay. I am like Shay. Yeah, you like Shay. Bye, Wild Daughter. No, you not playing. You not playing. We're not throwing you the ball. You will not get any shots. Rebound. I'm a competitor. You throw me the ball. Hey, Ocho, as long as you hustle, play hard. Hey, that's what I did. Listen, that wasn't my job. We had a score. You said it was all about knowing your role, right? I understood my role when I was there. Oh, yeah, we good. All the way we got to worry about is Gil.

1:09:42Shannon Sharpe:Gil, because he got Kenyon and - I'm a I'm a lot Gil bad man. I'm a shoot. Yeah, they're gonna go shit. KG and Paul Pierce. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know the truth. I got KG cuz I'm a talking about his game. I got KG. I'm a talking about a game. I'm a have my day ready to fight. Yeah, congratulations to 520. They got a Dita's deal. They signed the shoe deal nightcap neck, but see you see full front of them. So but you don't see what we got on. I got a flip flops. Actually, I got on Crocs. Yeah. Oh, I got on socks. They dirty, though. All right. Mauricio Zepeda got 12 ,000 minutes listening to Nightcap on Spotify.

1:10:24Shannon Sharpe:Mauricio, thank you, bro. Hey, I don't know. Man, that means you're probably in the top 1%, 2%. Because we've been seeing that a lot today. Man, we can't thank you guys enough. We see you guys that's got all these minutes. You're in the top 0, 0, 0.1%. Hey, we appreciate that, bro. We appreciate that. I can't thank you guys enough. Brandon Crowe, Ocho, told me to catch you outside for my comment on Jerry not being able to catch. Well, I'm still waiting. It's cold-ish outside, so hurry.

1:10:58Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, Ocho.

1:11:02Shannon Sharpe:I bet you Cleveland would trade y 'all Judy for T. Higgins. Huh? you want that you want that trade you said he a number one you say higgins a number one so why not make that trade well what's what's trade t you trade t higgins for jerry judith cleveland yeah we could do we could do that we could do that what you trying to what you trying to do cleveland trying to trade you jerry judith for t higgins i say okay come on t t gonna want go over there and that's t gonna want to go to cleveland i'm just asking you do you want to trade i'm i'm just asking do you think t is going to want to go over to cleveland based on what's going on i think he's going to want to go get his money i don't know if he's going to be able to come back next year because this is basically a one-year deal oh yeah yeah yeah okay yeah yeah the way it's basically a one-year deal but thank you guys for joining us for another episode of nightcap we can't thank you enough i'm your favorite on shannon sharp my partner and co-host liberty City's own, the Bingo Ring of Fame honoree, the Pro Bowl of the All-Pro, that is Chad Ochocinco Johnson.

1:12:12Shannon Sharpe:Third member of the Big Three joining us every Wednesday night, Little Rock, Arkansas native, University of Arkansas alum, seven-time NBA All-Star from the Atlanta Hawks. Here he is, Iso Joe Johnson. Again, thank you, Joe. Hey, wait. Thank you. I got one more joke. Please make sure y 'all hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank each and every one of you that helped us reach number 13 on the YouTube charts, number one podcast, sports podcast on YouTube. Thank you very much. None of this is possible without you.

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