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9:35Chad Johnson:They bragging rights, fun. They gambling. They doing all types. Everything going on.

9:40Joe Johnson:Yeah.

9:41Chad Johnson:Yeah. It's a – I'd never – you know, my brother loves it.

9:45Shannon Sharpe:He's addicted to it. You know, he's got to build back up because he had to take that time off for his eye. He had, you know, three or four eye surgeries. He had a detached retina. And, you know, he had to be face down for 20-plus hours a day. And so he's got to build back up. but he loves it. He's back out there now but he love it. Man, bro you need to come out here and join me. Let me hang up on you right quick. I ain't coming out there, man. I grew up in the South. Grew up in the sun, Ocho. I can't take the sun like that no more, Ocho. You got to think about it, Ocho. From the time I can remember until I retired at 35 I've been in the sun.

10:26Shannon Sharpe:So I was in the sun 30 plus years. I can't do the sun no more, man. Sun beat my ass. man it be so hot nigga Rod like damn hey

10:37Joe Johnson:I can't get in the golf until I can't move no more man

10:42Shannon Sharpe:yeah I can't

10:43Joe Johnson:I can't be able to run I can't be able to do nothing it just ain't no movement for me Joe I gotta be moving around I gotta be doing something

10:53Chad Johnson:golf a patient game bro you ain't got no patience Ocho you can't do it

11:00Shannon Sharpe:I just go to Topgolf and hit the ball Eat

11:05Chad Johnson:Hey look I like doing that too though while you playing

11:07Shannon Sharpe:Yeah I do that I don't even know if I can do that now Y 'all done messed my leg up playing bowling I don't even know I can hit the golf ball Oh man come on Y 'all ruined me I don't know what I'm gonna do man Y 'all done cost me a couple days I gotta get it right I gotta get in shape You know what I'm saying what you doing for your birthday yeah

11:36Shannon Sharpe:that's about it I ain't doing too much hold on what's the day's date day to 13 okay how many days in this month 31 or 30 April 30th April 31st 30 30 okay they got 30 they got 31 in May so I got no 17 May 31 that's 48 my birthday so I got about I got about two I got about 10 weeks I'm gonna see what I can do I'm gonna see if I can peel this onion one more time you know what I'm saying I'm gonna see if I can peel this onion one more time yeah 58 Hey.

12:24Joe Johnson:Hold on, hold on. Well, you peeling the onion, but what you peeling the onion for? To do what? You gotta be, you gotta have, you gotta have. You know what I'm saying?

12:31Shannon Sharpe:I'm trying to tell you, I'm shaking the cover for dark. That's it? That's it. That's all I, oh, that's all I, hey man, like Joe say, slow motion better than no motion. I'm slow now. Hello. I got some motion though, but it's slow.

12:46Joe Johnson:At least take a nice little trip somewhere, man.

12:51Shannon Sharpe:I mean, you know I'm trying to from the living room to the balcony that's a trip I gotta build my strength back up then on right leg it feel a little better I gotta get back in there and squat I gotta get back up I got you what I used to be I ain't what I once was But I'm better than 99 % of the mofos there I'm going to be.

13:21Chad Johnson:There you go.

13:22Shannon Sharpe:There you go. No, ain't nothing.

13:25Chad Johnson:Yeah.

13:26Shannon Sharpe:Ain't nothing slow about O'Shea, but it won't right now.

13:29Chad Johnson:Oh, that boy ain't it.

13:30Shannon Sharpe:I'm about to pick that up.

13:31Chad Johnson:That boy about to turn 58. Oh, yeah. He's going to cut a rug.

13:34Shannon Sharpe:Mm-hmm.

13:35Chad Johnson:Hey, look. I'm about to turn 4 '5 over here, man. I'm about to do a little something, too. You hear me? Woo! Wait, wait, wait. Okay. Yo, let's do something. Yo, let's do something.

13:46Shannon Sharpe:I'm gonna do something, nigga.

13:47Chad Johnson:Hey, I'm gonna throw this thing a party over here. You hear me? Oh, you throwin' a party? I'm gonna throw this thing a party over here, yeah. Okay, okay, Joe, okay. When's your birthday? Oh, Joe, you in June, too, right? 29th, 29th of June.

13:58Shannon Sharpe:Okay, I'm the 26th. Yeah, yeah. Okay, hey, let's have a party. I think your birthday the same day as John Elway's, Joe. Is it? Yeah.

14:08Chad Johnson:Yeah, you got the - Cause I'm the 26th, he's the 29th. I think I done told you, but you got the same birthday as my best friend, Vaughn. Yeah, well, I'll be there.

14:15Shannon Sharpe:I'll be there. You have a little something at the crib?

14:18Chad Johnson:Yeah, I'm going to have a little something, something. You know what I mean? I'm going to have a little something. Hey, Joe.

14:23Joe Johnson:I can come, Joe?

14:25Chad Johnson:We're going to have to see Ocho. We got to see. Your rap sheet ain't that great. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

14:33Joe Johnson:You're going to take your piece. I done sent you$200 already, Joe. I don't want it.

14:37Chad Johnson:I don't want it. I don't want it. Take it back. Yeah, take it back. I don't want it.

14:42Joe Johnson:I can't. I can't wait to that party on the 26th. I'm going to be there, boy.

14:50Joe Johnson:Oh, yeah.

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19:06Shannon Sharpe:All right, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

19:21Shannon Sharpe:Before we get to our super chats, we've got four video voicemails from our Discord. make sure you uh uh check out our discord and maybe we'll list one of your videos here's the

19:31Joe Johnson:first one let's take a listen what's up oh what's up ocho i saw i got a question for you man oh i watched some of your highlights today man one of the greatest players i ever seen i don't see how you got the name iso but i know how you got the name Mike so but they should have caused your buzzer be the dog cause you you was cleaning that buzzer beating them buzzers but my question is in your prime in Jordan prime in Kobe prime best out of five do you think you could beat

20:10Shannon Sharpe:one of them best out of five and how many games do you think you could have won I I think you could have went far with all of them, but I want to know what you think.

20:23Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah, I kicked their ass. Yeah, y 'all talk about that. Hey, tell that, tell that shit, Joe. That's not gonna happen. Look, I got a chance to compete against Kobe numerous occasions. I had some great battles with him, which I think what people don't understand from a two guard standpoint, when I first came into the league, Uncle Ocho, I was a strictly two guard. I wasn't playing really small forward, power forward. Right. I think coming to about 12, 13 years on down the line. So me being a big two guard, I'm about the biggest two guard in the league. Guys couldn't guard me. I post up, shoot the three, had a nice handle.

21:00Chad Johnson:I could get to wherever I wanted to. So I never had a problem with guys like that. You know what I mean? Would they give me problems? Yeah. But for the most part, I always feel like I can hold my own for sure. You got who I'm talking about, Joe? that was a first here that second let's take a listen night cap big three what's good with y 'all

21:19Shannon Sharpe:man isaiah tapping in again from northern california look man i got a bone to pick with unkin joe and the chat i don't think i've seen any of y 'all give ocho any kind of support y 'all just be thinking this man lying just a lie and and he doesn't mean what he says and he doesn't you know he doesn't say what he means look man hey joe you gonna find out when he gets you on that court and when he gets you in that ring and i hope ocho do some work on you because you was hating on my take last week about keldin johnson winning six man of the year dog like you was naming everybody except keldin johnson man you rooting against your own cousin winning six man of the year that's crazy dog hey ocho handle this man joe bruh handle joe for me hey i support you Ocho, from the Bay Area to Dade County, love.

22:11Joe Johnson:That's what I'm talking about.

22:13Chad Johnson:Hey, Ocho, Ocho, you better tell your man he might want to stay out this mess, okay? He might want to stay out this mess, because I'll tell you, it's going to get ugly.

22:23Joe Johnson:Oh, it ain't going to get ugly. It's going to get ugly. It definitely ain't going to get ugly. Hey, no, no, no, no, no, Joe. He right. He right. And listen, all I need is one supporter. That's all I need. I don't need everybody to support me. I enjoy being the bad guy. I enjoy being the villain. You hear me? And you ain't got to like me. But one thing about it is when we touch that court, when we touch that court and you see them tassels, we see them tassels, you know what time is.

22:49Chad Johnson:Hey, look.

22:50Joe Johnson:And this here, Joe, you don't want none of this, Joe. That's what you don't want.

22:54Chad Johnson:Hey, that's all I need is for one person to piss me off. And when I get pissed off, I'm talking about I'm going to go berserk. I'm telling you that now. Well, you got two, him and Joe.

23:04Shannon Sharpe:Him and Ocho.

23:06Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah, yeah. So somebody ass in trouble. That's all I got to say.

23:11Joe Johnson:All right. Keep that same energy now.

23:13Chad Johnson:Yeah, I'm just letting you know. Yeah.

23:15Joe Johnson:Keep that same energy. Here's our third one.

23:18Shannon Sharpe:Let's take a listen.

23:21Joe Johnson:What up, Night Cat? I'm Ocho and Steel. Hey. Hello. You know, it's your boy Brandon. Live from West Virginia. Fitting to go on to work, man. Just wanted to say thank y 'all, man. Y 'all make overnight shifts go by so fast laughing at y 'all, man. But my question is, Joe, you were a Jordan brand athlete,

23:42Chad Johnson:so I'm quite sure you've collected a lot of cool kicks over the years. And Unk is a well-known sneaker head. So if y 'all had, like, a battle, who do you think got the most exclusive sneakers?

23:55Damn, uh, I don't really know.

23:58Shannon Sharpe:Man, I sold a bunch of mine.

24:00Chad Johnson:Yeah, me too, Unk. I ain't gonna lie to you.

24:03Shannon Sharpe:I sold 300, I think 313 to 323 pairs. You did a – I did an auction. Yeah. Yeah. But I just didn't have Jordan. I had like Air Maxes. I had like Air Ones. I had 95s, 97. So I had a bunch of stuff. I had bronze. I had some exclusive stuff from Edison Chin, Nigel Sylvester. I mean, I had a lot of stuff.

24:31Chad Johnson:Yeah.

24:32Shannon Sharpe:I mean, like I had the OGs, like the cool grays, like when they came out, not the retros.

24:38Chad Johnson:Yeah.

24:38Shannon Sharpe:The reds and the C-Mits, yeah.

24:41Chad Johnson:Yeah, I had a lot of player edition shoes that, you know, they only made for like for us guys, you know, different. Like I play here in Atlanta, so I had like the Atlanta colors, things of that sort. So I had some pretty exclusive stuff. But like you said, I got rid of so much of that stuff. I don't nearly have as much as I used to have. You know what I mean?

25:04Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. I still got some stuff I need to get rid of. I mean, when it come down to it, Ocho and Joe, I just wear the same sneakers. Yeah. I ain't finna go through all them boxes. You know, I still got some exclusive stuff. I still got the Jordan Olympics, the Miros, and I still got the Doernbeckers, the Superman. So I got like duck stuff, organ duck stuff. but yeah I'm probably gonna get up off that too in the next probably year or two

25:33Joe Johnson:Uncle Joe I done simplified my closet my closet is about three different styles Nike Air Force 1's my black chucks and my white chucks a high top pair and a low top pair and a bunch of Adidas Sambas

25:48Chad Johnson:literally that's it

25:51Joe Johnson:dress shoes and a pair of boots

25:54Chad Johnson:I'm willing to get rid of a lot more but I wear a damn size 16 and ain't many people wear no 16s. You know what I mean? I'm stuck with a lot. I don't got homeboys who wear 16, none of my kids. So a lot of just kind of sitting.

26:11Joe Johnson:Yeah, but size 16, but you're going to be kind of slow trying to hang with me, huh?

26:15Chad Johnson:Yeah, all right. Okay.

26:18Joe Johnson:But size 16, you're going to be about two, three steps behind, Joe. Yeah. here's our fourth and final one let's take a listen Unc, Ocho, Iso what it do, King Iso my bad listen I love y 'all love y 'all to death especially you Chad but I got some smoke for you my boy I got some smoke listen for one you owe my Unc some money and two you owe the anointed one some money too cause you ain't getting away with them tickets blowing them off for them tickets Listen, so that's how we're going to settle this. Not only is he going to get you a one-on-one, because you know, Chad, I love you again. It's from the heart.

27:00Joe Johnson:But you ain't got no chance. But anyways, this is what we're going to do. We're going to tie your left hand behind your back. You got three minutes. Unc, Joe, we're going to get him. Love, Chad. It's all peace. Chad, to save mine. You know what I'm saying? Love y 'all. Keep doing what you're doing. I listen to you guys every day. I drive a truck for Amazon. So yeah, y 'all get me through my day. Love. Hey, hey, hey.

27:23Shannon Sharpe:Hey, you drive a truck for Amazon, stop leaving a package at the front gate.

27:26Joe Johnson:Yeah, hey, yeah, yeah.

27:27Shannon Sharpe:You got the code, break that stuff

27:28Joe Johnson:and put it on the damn porch. Hey, matter of fact, you know what? He just pissed me off, huh? Hey, Peebo Bryson just pissed me off now, Joe. He done made it worse. He done made it worse for you, huh? Yeah, Peebo Bryson done made it worse for you, Joe. Yeah, it's on now.

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31:50Shannon Sharpe:Oh, man, for nightcap. Oh, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, you to the catbird sees them undisputed days. Yeah, we got, you know, we got something. I need to get me a whole, man, and he win the first round series, I might bring out a whole goat costume. As a matter of fact, I might get a goat. You're going to have a goat in there like I had on Undisputed.

32:08Chad Johnson:You're going to go get you a goat with a little baby goat?

32:11Shannon Sharpe:Yep.

32:12Chad Johnson:Well, hey, because if they pull that off, that mean Bron does some hell of a shit for it. Oh, for sure.

32:22Shannon Sharpe:EJ71, what's up? What's up, guys? Love the show. Make a lie jar for Ocho. $200 per lie and split it after the year. first of all, Ocho was supposed to start a swear jar. He started that the first year. Me? Ain't no money. Where the jar at, Ocho?

32:38Joe Johnson:Oh, no, I talked to my therapist. My therapist said I need to express myself in all ways I can. And so part of me expressing myself, even though I have extensive vocabulary, you know, people think because you curse, you don't have extensive vocabulary. Yes, I do. It's just saying, hey, Joe, if I sit here and say, may you know what, Joe? Boy, I love you, Joe. Boy, you my dog.

32:59Chad Johnson:Yeah.

32:59Joe Johnson:Sound cool. Yeah. But if I say, man, Joe, boy, I fucking love you, boy.

33:05Chad Johnson:See? That adds meaning.

33:07Joe Johnson:That adds emphasis on what I'm trying to get across. Yeah. Don't nobody cook no food without no seasoning. Yeah, right. And guess what else it adds? Huh?

33:18Shannon Sharpe:Guess what else it adds? It adds$5 to the square jar. So you add some seasoning, add$5 to it.

33:26Joe Johnson:Okay. That's fine. That's fine.

33:28Shannon Sharpe:Man, Chad, how much money you think we'd have if Ocho would have kept that swear jar that he started our first year and he say he's going to put$5 in it every time he swears? How much money do you think we have, Chad?

33:41Chad Johnson:A few grand. You have a few grand.

33:43Joe Johnson:Hey, listen, I've been working on it. It's like an alcoholic trying to stop drinking, huh? You know? I'm trying. You can't.

33:52Chad Johnson:I've had a bed with me. An alcoholic can't be around alcohol if he want to stop. Well, I mean, would you want me to stop talking?

34:00Shannon Sharpe:I ain't saying that. We might have to cut out nightcap and get him to start cussing, but he going to cuss somewhere else.

34:08Shannon Sharpe:He just don't cuss over here. Tyree or Tia, if you could compare your careers or play style to an NBA player, who would it be? An ISO, who would you compare yours to in NFL terms? It can be past or present. damn who hey who hey um you would be better because you know basketball better than i do

34:31Joe Johnson:ai

34:36Shannon Sharpe:yeah i can say that hold on who say ai

34:39Chad Johnson:ai

34:46Chad Johnson:you talking about artificial intelligence ain't no way to hear you talking about

34:52Joe Johnson:Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's about the same, yeah. Same, do it your way, you know. Didn't change, didn't conform.

35:04Shannon Sharpe:It's hard. For me, my ability to start and stop, that's what I can do. I can start, stop. I had shake. I would probably say...

35:28damn

35:31Chad Johnson:I'll probably say

35:37Chad Johnson:I say like an Andre Johnson yeah

35:42Joe Johnson:that's a good one that's a good one

35:51Shannon Sharpe:I would probably you know what I would probably say Luka because Luka ability to start and stop yeah you you'd be a bad mofo ain't you yeah hey Joe I run a right now I set that thing down because you gotta realize I came from a wide receiver. I was a wide receiver that moved to tight ends. Yeah, yeah. So tight ends, they clumber some. They play a bumper car. They want to bump into the guy and break away. Nah, I ain't trying to let you touch me because I know you didn't grab me. And I wasn't that big. I wasn't like a Gronk or a Gonzalez guy that can, you know, that can bump a car, bump into you and break away.

36:31Shannon Sharpe:So now I'm trying, oh, no. Yeah, yeah. I'm getting skinny. Now you see me, now you don't. Tony O if Shea wins another MVP title is he the third best point guard ever I see him as a shooting guard but he passes hard and is right behind D Wade thoughts

36:54Chad Johnson:yeah yeah if he win another one

36:57Shannon Sharpe:but he a point though so that means he gotta be he'll probably be the third best cause you know Magic and Steph yeah because he does handle the ball I mean no matter what we want to think about AI and Harden yeah they were two guards but they got listed as point guards so they go down as point guards Joe there were two guards masquerading as points

37:25Chad Johnson:there you go there you go

37:31Chad Johnson:he's a different breed bro focused locked in keep his nose clean. Super hard working. He get another one, boy. He going to be up in there. He going to be in that conversation. He going to pass some dudes. Some legends.

37:53Shannon Sharpe:Sir Alexander, Iso, my Arkansas bro, rubbed that far city. Ran into Brandon Roy. Can you talk about his game? Is he on the what-if list?

38:04Chad Johnson:Of course. Brandon Roy was tough. Played in Portland. I I competed against him for a number of years. Always was a tough battle. Me and him had some great battles, some great one-on-one battles. But he had everything, Ocho. The boy had bounce. He could score. He could shoot the midi. He could shoot the three. He could post up. He could defend. Yeah, if it weren't for those knee injuries he had, him and LaMarcus. Oh, my God. That boy was serious, man. Had plenty of game, a whole lot of it.

38:40Shannon Sharpe:Yep, he one of them was, man. What if?

38:43Chad Johnson:Damn.

38:44Shannon Sharpe:What if? J-Dub Akron, ISO, you must have missed what Ocho told you to have the Miss Rabbit punch you while performing. Ocho got to explain that logic.

38:57Chad Johnson:He said what?

38:59Shannon Sharpe:He said, told Ocho, you have to have the Miss Rabbit punch while you performing. The Miss Rabbit punch? Yeah. Oh, Joe, what? Huh? You told Ocho he needed to have the rabbit punch?

39:14Joe Johnson:Oh, Joe, remember I told you?

39:16Chad Johnson:What?

39:18Joe Johnson:But, you know, when she... But we talked about that on the show the other day. You were like, nah, I ain't doing that. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What about it? Donkey punch. You got to tell her donkey punch you right in the back of the head. For what? You know, when she, you know, your groceries.

39:35Chad Johnson:No, no, no. No, no.

39:38Joe Johnson:Come on, Joe. Hey, I'm cool. Joe, you ain't living, Joe.

39:43Chad Johnson:Hey, look, look. Everywhere I done been, I done had somebody. I did an event with the Hawks today. A dude stopped me talking about that. Talking about, man, I don't get Ocho crazy, man. I said, yeah, they are crazy. Yeah, I know something wrong with them.

39:56Shannon Sharpe:Ain't no hunk at Ocho. It's Ocho. Ain't no hunk.

40:02Shannon Sharpe:Ocho be trying to pull me into a shenanigans, man. Man, leave me alone, Ocho. I ain't got time for you to do this, man. I told you. Sheldon Poe, 51-25, Netflix aired the Jailblazers documentary this week. ISO, what do you remember from competing against them in them 2000 Portland teams?

40:27Chad Johnson:Man, they were very explosive my rookie year when I played against that Portland team. Scottie Pippen was on that team. I took Scotty Pippen from Arkansas. It was like my first time really getting a chance to see him in person, to even meet him in person. So I thought that was pretty cool. But outside of that, you know, they were a hell of a team, bro, who really had a great chance to at least get to the finals, to the unfortunate collapse that they had, you know, in that, what was that, Game 7? What was that, the 2000 finals or the 2000 Western finals or the 2001?

41:03Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah, when they choked against Shaq now. Oh, man. They had that lead, yeah, I think that was. 2000? Yeah, 2000.

41:15Shannon Sharpe:Raha, hey, I think you were at a point where LBJ won't get the love he deserves until 5, 10 years after he retires. People don't know what they're watching. They don't. Yeah. I'm not so sure they don't know. I don't know if they're properly appreciated. Because a lot of times we don't properly appreciate greatness. when we see it, it's not until it's retired.

41:39Chad Johnson:Yeah, he long gone. Before everybody really appreciate be like, man, we really took dude for granted.

41:47Shannon Sharpe:Yep. But that happens. Did you really appreciate Michael Phelps when he won eight gold medals? Do you really appreciate you saying when he's running those times, you're just like, somebody else gonna come? or Serena you just take it for granted it's not until they're like damn man Serena really dominated Tiger Woods really dominated these guys winning Tiger Woods winning 8, 9, 10 tournaments in a year now we got a winner every other week Tiger showed up, Tiger winning

42:27Chad Johnson:yeah yeah

42:31Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, that's how greatness is, bro. That's how greatness is. It's a savage, OKC fan. What's our chance looking, running it back, fellas? We looking good? You looking damn good.

42:44Chad Johnson:Got a great chance, a great opportunity. Looking damn good.

42:48Shannon Sharpe:Very.

42:49Chad Johnson:Some guys that's hungry, too.

42:52Joe Johnson:And everybody healthy, too? Yep.

42:56Chad Johnson:Got a great chance.

42:57Shannon Sharpe:Trail digger, A-R. Can you hit that love train for the chance? This is Sunday. Congrats on two million. Man, they were telling the story. Because I love that song. And he was telling the story. I was like, damn. Two members. Same group. Seeing the same woman.

43:19Chad Johnson:Man, what? Wait, love train?

43:22Shannon Sharpe:LTD? No, that's Confunction. Oh, Confunction. Confunction, yeah. Oh, that's what the song is. LTD was with Jeffrey Osborne. Jeffrey Osborne, yeah. With the Leafs singer. Then he went solo on his own.

43:36Shannon Sharpe:Happens sometimes, Mocho. You don't know what you don't know. Boy, listen, man, boy. How they know they was seeing the same woman, though?

43:45Chad Johnson:Cuz.

43:46Shannon Sharpe:Confused. Hey, she kept that thing on the hush. And T.L.D. looked like, well, damn. He was right there. He was talking about her. You know, hey, man, I met this bad girl, man. Ooh. Hey, Joe Ochoa, let me know. Yeah. Man, what she look like? Man, she about 5 '8", 5 '9". Light skin, got her natural hair. I mean, body to die for. What's her name?

44:22Shannon Sharpe:What you mean at? Yeah. How long you been talking to her? Uh-oh. Hey. Hey. You know they start asking you, how long you been talking to her? Yeah. Oh, Lord. Yeah, you know it's something. Yeah, but hey. Man, be straight, man. Hey. You know something about those girls. Don't leave me. Don't let your boy be out there, man. Choke, you know, hey. You know the rookies coming. Like, we've been there. I've been there. I was there since 90. So I kind of know. I don't know everybody, but I kind of know. Yeah. Hey, Shaw, what's up, man? What's up with her girl? Yeah, she used to, you know, talk to such and such.

45:00Shannon Sharpe:But I think she cool, but, you know, she used to talk to X, Y, and Z, but he no longer here. Yeah. Well, I ain't finna let you be out there just blind. Yeah. But, you know, sometimes, hey,

45:14Shannon Sharpe:they want what they want. So what you gonna do? All I can do is just give you the information, don't you? That's it. You do what you want to do with it.

45:20Chad Johnson:Hey, hey, sometimes that hoo-ha-ha in that chokehold, boy, they ain't studying nothing. They gonna want? Yeah.

45:31Shannon Sharpe:It's been that way. Wars have been started.

45:34Chad Johnson:Man.

45:35Shannon Sharpe:I mean, why did Samson tell Delilah where his strength lie? David, why he do that?

45:49Shannon Sharpe:Adam took a bite of that apple. He told, hey, you eat all these trees. Eat wherever you want to. old E started talking to him there you go put that joker like McGruff took a big bite out of the crime

46:03Chad Johnson:yeah yeah

46:07Chad Johnson:cold game boy

46:08Shannon Sharpe:it is Sir Alexander are y 'all gonna ask someone to talk baseball like C.C. Barnes or maybe Jeter nah man they're honestly Sir Alexander there's not really enough interest from our people in our chat to justify it. Triple H, Cup Saturday. Ocho picked the Lakers. Man, Lakers about to get swept.

46:33Chad Johnson:They know he janky.

46:36Joe Johnson:The funny thing about it is when it comes to teams I pick, I don't lose. Y 'all laughed at my bracket for March Madness. Oh man, you pick mascots. Even though I still came out better than y 'all two. You ain't winning. You ain't winning, man. I still came out better than y 'all, too long as I beat y 'all. That's all I care about. OK.

47:01Chad Johnson:I tell you what, next year we going to pick, and we going to put some money on the line. Uh-oh. That's what I'm talking about. See, now I got to lock in now. I got to lock in. That's what we going to do. Yeah. Each of us put$1 ,000 up. There we go. Wait, how much? $1 ,000.

47:20Chad Johnson:Yeah.

47:20Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. That's what I thought. I got to check. Now pick mascots again. Dubs, King Iso, did your son finally learn how to make those sandwiches? Still laughing at that story, man.

47:33Chad Johnson:Self-nature. Yeah, he learned how to make those damn sandwiches. You go hungry enough, boy, whatever in there, you'll find a way to make something. Yeah.

47:45Shannon Sharpe:Sam LeGrand, 89, Iso, a Cowboy fan, so it's only natural that he bring delusion to his basketball fandom. All right, now. Yeah, hey, yeah.

47:56Joe Johnson:With them Hawks. I'm about to Hawks. Nah, chill, chill, chill. I'm just saying.

48:01Shannon Sharpe:Right, guy, who you got? Ocho and Iso in the Oklahoma drill. Ocho got the ball.

48:08Chad Johnson:I'm going to clean his rack.

48:12Joe Johnson:I'm going to clean him up. Joe, I run through you, Joe. Hey, Joe, are you crazy? Joe, you ain't got enough bricks in your pocket, boy. What? You hear me? But, hey, Joe, you see the animals I had to deal with, man, during my career, Joe? Man, I would have ran through you, Joe.

48:26Chad Johnson:You ain't going through no contact, Ocho. You trying to get around somebody. You ain't trying to go through them.

48:30Joe Johnson:Joe, I'm running through people, Joe.

48:32Shannon Sharpe:Joe say he ain't even never did Oklahoma drill. He's going to shut you down, Ocho.

48:37Joe Johnson:Joe. Damn. Joe, I'm going right through you, Joe. You know that, boy. You know that, boy. I want no contact. Hey, matter of fact, I'm going to show you when I get the ball, when we play one-on-one, I'm going in the post.

48:49Chad Johnson:Okay, all right, all right.

48:51Joe Johnson:I'm going to post, and I'm going to back you down like Shaq back when he was with the Lakers. Huh? What we talking about, man? Hey, Joe, I got something you can't measure, Joe. What's that, your heart? You can't measure that, Joe.

49:10Shannon Sharpe:Brightburn, fellas, I turned the big two five on Saturday, and I'm drawing a blank on plans. What did y 'all get until y 'all 25th? Straight out 501. Love, Iso.

49:23Chad Johnson:That's a home team.

49:24Joe Johnson:I'm the wrong one to ask, boy. He said, what do we get for our 25th birthday? Yeah, man, you know how long it has been?

49:30Chad Johnson:Hold on, hold on. My 25th birthday, I had a party back home in Little Rock and Jagged Edge came and performed. What? Talking about toe that thing down. You hear me? Dang! Toe that thing down.

49:43Shannon Sharpe:So who you getting to perform at 45?

49:49Joe Johnson:Hey Joe, hey, how your boy Joe? You know I got a little band now. Nah, nah, nah.

49:54Chad Johnson:I'm cool on you.

49:56Joe Johnson:Hey Joe, I got a little mariachi band.

50:00Chad Johnson:I don't know. That's a good question. That's a good question.

50:12Shannon Sharpe:But nah, buddy, I'm cool on you.

50:18Chad Johnson:Yeah.

50:20Joe Johnson:Man, Joe, support black business, man. Yeah, I do, bro.

50:24Chad Johnson:I do.

50:25Shannon Sharpe:Babber Ray Ocho. You and Iso play 1v1. You got to go at the knee. If Iso can't finish the game, that means you win, right? Yeah.

50:36Joe Johnson:Man, you going to cheap shot me? Nah, that was his idea. I don't want to cheap shot you. I want to cheap shot you. You want him to finish. You want him to stay. So you want to be the fast player. I want him there. I want him to get back on the show and say, you know what, Ocho, I underestimated you. Underestimated everything. I take back everything I said about you. You the real deal. Matter of fact, he probably going to say, you know what, you should have hooped.

50:59Chad Johnson:See, the thing is, when I kick your butt, I don't really get no stripes for that because I'm supposed to do that. You feel me?

51:06Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe, you get stripes because I'm talking trash. I mean, you're grilled, Joe. I'm telling you. I mean, the chat already know that I'm going to dismount to you. They already know. The chat is based off what they've seen you do in the NBA. Now, this ain't NBA rules.

51:24Chad Johnson:These jailhouse rules, Joe. And based off how they done seen you hoop before, that's what they going out for. You think, yeah, it ain't just me.

51:31Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe, just worry about the elbow, Joe. Just worry about the elbow, Joe. That's all I got to say. Matter of fact, you know what? I don't want to do too much tongue wrestling. Yes, you know what it is.

51:41Shannon Sharpe:hey uh joe i saw uh uh bees on on friday and he said he gonna let you heal up but uh he he looking

51:49Chad Johnson:for that oh yeah he want to smoke he want to say yeah yeah oh yeah didn't he get it right he can get it he can get it to here ain't nobody exempt oh shit rocky handley today is my 49th birthday

52:01Shannon Sharpe:the biggest fan rocky i appreciate that man happy birthday bro 49 and one more year around the sun 5-0. Kevin Boatnight. What's up, Bojo? No, I'm just saying happy birthday. Okay. Your 12 for 214 was a chief, was a god tier. What was your first thought when the clock reached zero? Well, we went in overtime in that game. I didn't know I had the record. I know I had some yards, but I didn't know I had the record until I think it was Jim Sacamano? I think Jim Sacamano came after the game and told me you set an NFL record. I say, for what? Say the most receiving yards in the game by a tight end. I had no idea.

52:44Shannon Sharpe:I didn't even know what the record was. How many yards was it? I had 214. I wrote the record with 212. Damn. Yeah. And I had 31 yards at the half, Ocho. I had 183 and two touchdowns in the second half.

53:00Chad Johnson:I'm saying the second half, what was the difference?

53:04Shannon Sharpe:They got me to – we were down. We were down. You had to throw. Yeah, we had to throw. And they were playing.

53:15Chad Johnson:You had that look on you.

53:17Shannon Sharpe:You getting up through there. First play out the second half. Go 82 on them.

53:27Shannon Sharpe:Pick them up, put them down. Oh, yeah. But I probably should have had 250. 50. TJ Mod 21 up. How good was Albany State back in your day? I'm from Camilla, Georgia where Grover Stewart, the DT on the coach is from ISO and still love y 'all. Albany was good but we cooked them. I lost the Albany State once. I lost the Fort Valley once. I ain't never lost to Clark. Lost to Morehouse once. But Albany was good. Albany had a nice squad. But they did. Boy, when number two come to town, you already know. The deuces lose. What? Boy, we did a number on them. Hey, I lost to Fort Valley my first year. But that's when they had Greg Lloyd and Eddie Anderson.

54:31Shannon Sharpe:They called the defense Blue Death. or they were loaded. But after that, no more. No more, Ocho. Went out there. They beat us at our place my freshman year. Then I go back to them, hit them for eight, for 122. Then they come back, that was my junior year. I hit them for seven, for 197. Yeah, I did it like that. Yeah, cooking.

55:01Shannon Sharpe:Just mixing stuff in the pot. Teddance up.

55:10Shannon Sharpe:Caleb Robinson. I'm sorry. As much as I love old goat, LeBron James, Bronny James, Bryce James, Rick James.

55:20Shannon Sharpe:Hey, y 'all bulljibbing. Bronny getting better and better, Joe.

55:23Chad Johnson:He is. He look good out there.

55:25Shannon Sharpe:He's starting to look a lot more comfortable. I think. Had a double-digit quarter.

55:30Chad Johnson:Yeah.

55:30Shannon Sharpe:The third quarter, hey, a couple of threes,

55:32Chad Johnson:got to the rack. You know what? Because it's like when I watch him in the G League, he be down there dominating. Yes! He just got to bring that attitude, that confidence. He got to bring it with him when he play with the Lakers, bro.

55:46Shannon Sharpe:That's all he got to do. Richie shoots off. If you guys could make a starting lineup with the players that surprised you the most this season, what would it be? We might have to get a close-up to that Ocho for that 5900. Love the show. Nightcap for life. Ooh, most surprising.

56:13Are you talking basketball?

56:15Chad Johnson:I'm thinking basketball, yes. Most surprising. I mean, Nakia Alexander-Walker here for the Hawks. For sure, he on there. Yeah, he probably, he's number one on my list.

56:30Shannon Sharpe:I'm surprised. I did not see Jalen Brown averaging 28. No? Who had that on the bingo card?

56:40Chad Johnson:I thought he would put up some good numbers. I just didn't think they would result in the winning. Yes. I ain't going to lie. I didn't really see that because they had lost so much. I was like, I think JB, he could potentially probably lead the league in scoring. But I just didn't know they would be number two in the East still. I didn't know that. Okay.

57:02Shannon Sharpe:Knipple. I did not see him playing like this in a rookie season.

57:07Chad Johnson:Me neither. That Keontae George kid from Utah.

57:12Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

57:14Chad Johnson:From Baylor. He went to Baylor. He nice. He be getting money out there.

57:18Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah.

57:20Chad Johnson:Who else like that?

57:21Shannon Sharpe:I thought Cooper Flagg would be good, but I didn't think he'd be this good this early.

57:26Chad Johnson:Nah, he picked it up. He started off a little slow, but then... Yeah, I mean, back-to-back 40 pieces. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's impressive. That's impressive.

57:36Shannon Sharpe:Daniel Wells, Ocho, the only man on earth who can get away with turning money owed into a bent emergency fund. Come on, O, get your money.

57:49Shannon Sharpe:You right about that, man. That takes a special skill for Ocho because he found a way to get out of it at A. And it's here if you need it. I need it. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. We greatly, greatly appreciate you guys tuning in. Y 'all know who I am. I'm your favorite, and there is my partner, a former Pro Bowler and an All-Pro and a Ring of Fame honoree for the Cincinnati Bengals, that is Ocho Cinco, and the seven-time NBA All-Star from the Atlanta Hawks, an Arkansas Little Rock native, he's Iso Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap Podcast feed wherever you get your podcasts from.

58:32Shannon Sharpe:Thank you guys for your support. Thank you for your continued support because you make this happen. You make it worthwhile. So thank you. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shea by La Portier, head over to LaPortierCognac.com to order you a bottle. It is a premium VSOP, best tasting, smoothest VSOP on the market. It is a VSOP, but it drinks like an SO. XO, excuse me. so I'm telling you you know Joe we're gonna have that Shea Floyd at the party yeah man that thing gonna be lit hey what y 'all want me to wear Joe we talking about I got you hey we wanna thank Colton Hood University of Tennessee cornerback early round projection wish him the best he's a Georgia boy so stay healthy congratulations man, and we lose nothing but the best for you.

59:28Shannon Sharpe:Playoffs are about to start happening. The play-in tournament starts Tuesday and Wednesday. Make sure you tune in for Nightcap for the latest on what happens in those. Y 'all know who I am. I'm Up. He's Ocho. He's Iso. We're off now, but we're back tomorrow night. Can't be off too long. Thank you guys for joining. We greatly appreciate it.

59:49Chad Johnson:Peace out.

59:51Shannon Sharpe:What'd you say? Okay. We're off tomorrow night, but we're on Tuesday night. My bad. Off tomorrow on Tuesday. Peace.

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