Nightcap Hour 3: Malik Beasley INDICTED in NBA Betting SCHEME + Chris Johnson DIAGNOSED With ALS + Lions RELEASE Terrion Arnold

13:30Chad Johnson:They're going to get ready.

13:31Shannon Sharpe:Because guess what? When you get down, because let me tell you how that happened. Let me tell you how it happened, Joe. Because you don't gamble. Yeah. I'm betting$1 ,000 a hand. Let's just say I go on a cold run. I lose 10 hands in a row. 10? So guess what I'm going to do to get it back? I'm going to bet$10 ,000. I'm going to bet$2 ,000. I'm going to bet$5 ,000 the next hand. Now, Ochoa, down in the hole, I'm$50 ,000. Man, sh. Now, I only have a marker, but they know I'm good for it. I'm going to get me another marker for$50 ,000.

14:06Chad Johnson:I ain't never played them games y 'all tripping y 'all tripping

14:14Shannon Sharpe:but see here's the thing what you don't realize the cars don't know you winning or losing hey I'm starting to think some of that stuff really what cause you know I don't really do no heavy gambling there right you know when I go to Vegas and I hit the casino I play a little blackjack Yeah.

14:33Chad Johnson:When you say, hold on, when you say you don't do no heavy gambling, what you playing a hand? The only thing I do is I play blackjack the$25 tables. That's the highest I'm going. Joe, I get$200 out the ATM. Once that$200 is gone, I'm done. I'm done. And the last time I played, I played$200. I got my chips, and I won$700, and I got up out of there. I ain't been back on the game since. So you do it more for the sport. like you like to have a little fun, gamble a little bit. Have a little fun, he ain't got nothing to do with killer's time. Yeah, that and Joe, you know, they let you smoke your cigar while you play too, Joe.

15:12Yeah, so you know, I'm sitting there, I'm content. You know, I got my little Coke, I got my little cigar. Then the people sitting next to me, they helping me because I don't really understand the game like that. I just know I got to be that goddamn dealer. I know that.

15:24Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, they'll let you, they'll let, you ain't playing with$25 a hand. You up that ante. They gonna let you talk, they gonna let you say nothing. They don't care not like no$25. Yeah, hey. Yeah, I ain't up with nothing. Don't worry about that. I just stick to that. I bought my last$700, Joe. I ain't been back on that table since.

15:40Chad Johnson:Hey, playing$25 a hand here, they'll help you win a couple of hands. Yeah, yeah, look at that.

15:44Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, they're like, hey, you probably should, hey, you want to split, you should probably split that. They talking to you like that. Start playing the foul for$2 ,500,$5,$10,$25,$50,$100.

15:55Chad Johnson:Yeah.

15:58Shannon Sharpe:You can swear to them dealers. You think the dealer's mute.

16:03Chad Johnson:That's how it happened, boy.

16:04Shannon Sharpe:I just, look, and I understand, but bro, you made$60 million. You making$5,$6,$8,$9 million a year, and you want to fix a game?

16:17Chad Johnson:No, you can't understand now.

16:20Shannon Sharpe:I don't. I can't. You can't. Some things, you know, some things have to be offered without an explanation. everything isn't meant to be explained

16:36Chad Johnson:damn but to throw your career down the drain like that bro

16:43I think it's something deeper something deeper it's an addiction I think somebody forced them to do it they do it one time and I think once they end they can't get out

16:56Chad Johnson:Yes. But how you can't get out, Ocho? Let's say you do got somebody who you owe 200 grand. Hell, you're making 12 million.

17:08Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, but here's the thing, Ocho. You already done did it one time. I'm going to go tell the feds you did it.

17:19Shannon Sharpe:Hey, I'm going to make this one run. I'm going to drop this package off, and I'm out. and you somebody where you already did it. I'm going to tell them you made a drop.

17:32Chad Johnson:Nah, that's a dangerous game you playing, boy.

17:37Shannon Sharpe:There is. Once I get the hooks in you, you ain't got no choice. Now you got it every time I say, hey, I need you to come in the under.

17:50Shannon Sharpe:Because these prop bets are where it at. Think about it. How long are they going to save the last lamb for Ocho? Who going to win the coin toss? What color is the Gatorade going to be, Ocho? Yeah. Who scored the first touchdown, Ocho? Who cuts the first pass? Who has the first rushing touchdown? Who gets the first sack? Will there be a safety in the game? Will there be a return in the game?

18:16Chad Johnson:Hey, while y 'all playing, though, it's about 40 guys in college basketball this year that got caught up you know in this type of scandal they called they say there's about 40 different guys who got caught up in doing stuff like this yes yeah in college basketball Ocho

18:39Chad Johnson:so listen nah they these guys got caught but what I'm saying is it's probably a lot of other guys doing it too here they just didn't get caught you know what i'm saying right yes sir

18:53Shannon Sharpe:me i ain't gonna lie to you guys i just can't i just can't cheat nobody out of their money i just ain't wired like that i can't i can't man people hurt you about their money we are talking about this last night oh yeah people hurt you about this people will hurt you for less than the kind of money that they're gambling. Let alone, they find out you cheat them. Where I'm from, you cheat somebody out of$50, they'll let you have it. Shit. Let alone$500.

19:24Chad Johnson:Hey.

19:25Shannon Sharpe:$1 ,000? Do you know how much$1 ,000 is in Glenville?

19:30Chad Johnson:I seen somebody about to get down on the boy for$20, man. He thought a man cheated him out of$20. Ready to kill him. Yeah.

19:42Shannon Sharpe:Yo, I done seen it say, look here, man, don't worry about it. Here, I'm going to give you the money. Nah, I don't want your money. Just in cheap. Man, here, take the money. It's only$40. Here's a Honda.

19:56Chad Johnson:Yeah. It's the principle to them, bro.

20:00Shannon Sharpe:It is.

20:01Chad Johnson:You think you can get over on me, yeah. It is.

20:05Shannon Sharpe:Man, I'm telling you. I couldn't, though, Joe. I couldn't. but first of all, I couldn't do that to my teammates because I know how hard some of them worked and the effort that we put in during the course of the week, the meetings, the practice, everything, and to come out there and to give anything less than my best

20:30Shannon Sharpe:is the cheetah man, is to rob him of his dignity, is to give anything less than your best. You devalue him.

20:42Shannon Sharpe:I can't do it. My goodness gracious. Bro, I sure hope. I just hope this is like a big misunderstanding.

20:50Chad Johnson:Ain't no misunderstanding. You see what's going on? Yeah.

21:02Shannon Sharpe:I just couldn't do it. Hey, hey, they got you supposed to catch five passes. you just need to catch four. I couldn't do that Ocho.

21:17Chad Johnson:You couldn't, hey, hey. You couldn't, cause you couldn't imagine somebody doing that to you. If it was one of your teammates, yeah, you couldn't.

21:25Shannon Sharpe:You know how hard you, how much work you put in? Hey, if I'm catching five passes, and I'm supposed to catch five, they got me slated to catch five, I'm catching five. Hell, I might catch seven. that's what I'm thinking oh I sure hope somebody bet the over because I'm sure trying to get it I just hate you guys put yourself in this predicament and now they're going to go back Beasley has struggled financially in recent years a judge ordered him to pay one million to his former agency last March which alleged in a lawsuit that Beasley had failed to pay back a$650 ,000 marketing advance. He was evicted from a high-rise apartment in Detroit last summer after the landlord sued him for$21 ,505 in unpaid rent, according to court records.

22:26Shannon Sharpe:News of a federal investigation into Beasley broke as he was negotiating a three-year,$42 million deal with the Detroit Pistons last year. That went away. He went through that money though, huh? So that would have been$14 million a year. Maybe he could have cleared it up. But I'm just... But, bro, what you doing? Somebody got to be living beyond their means too, don't you? Oh, Joe. Way beyond. Way beyond.

23:02Chad Johnson:Yeah, you got caught up in something.

23:06Shannon Sharpe:way beyond. I got what I got. I got what I got. I got what I got. I got a nice home. As long as I got running water and central heating and cooling, it's better than anything I ever grew up in. You're good, huh? I'm good. Good. I'm great.

23:30Shannon Sharpe:At some point in time, there has to come a time when you stop trying to impress somebody. We've all been there. Joe, we've all had it. We got a little jury, Ocho. We had to get us a car. We had the kicks. I get it. Chad, I'm not finna sit here and lie to you that I didn't go through a phase like, hey. But when you sit down and think about it, you're like, okay.

23:57Shannon Sharpe:I can drive one car. That's it. I can live in one house. okay I got a place in Atlanta I got a place here in Vegas I don't need a place in Miami I don't need a place in LA I don't need four or five houses

24:18yeah

24:20Shannon Sharpe:I mean when I went to get this house and the guy was looking at me like well damn you ain't got no debt I'm like am I supposed to have some

24:33Shannon Sharpe:Joe, I didn't know that was the objective. I thought the objective was not to have debt. But people, they like debt. I'm like, hold on. And guess what? If you pay off your debt, it dropped your credit score. I'm like, well, damn.

24:52Shannon Sharpe:I said, no, I don't want no. Hey, well, you know you can borrow more than you. No. I want the loan for this amount. I don't need it. What I need an extra million for to walk around in my pocket. I want this. I know what I want to do. What did I ask for? Can I get that? I just don't get it, guys. I don't get it, bro.

25:17Chad Johnson:I don't know, man.

25:24Dang.

25:33Shannon Sharpe:man had everything about to sign a 14 million dollar a year deal for three years and maybe that could have cleared everything no it wouldn't he'd have been yeah because now he has more money to gamble man that's crazy because if you buy ish and you get more money what you gonna do buy more ish buy more ish we don't become more fiscally responsible more prudent the more we make if you got bad habits all money does is estimated yep that's all it does i got a girl broke with a 50 million he went broke with 100 million yep

26:25Shannon Sharpe:Sad news today, guys. I know you've all heard about it by now. Former Titans running back Chris Johnson, a.k.a. CJ2J, announced on Good Morning America that he has been diagnosed with ALS, more commonly known as Lou Gehrig's disease, at the age of 39. Johnson, who's no longer verbal due to the progression of... Copenhagen's spit-free pouches are packed full of American-grown tobacco. Made for welders. Stuck behind masks. More mechanics stuck on a fused spark plug. The long-haul trucker stuck in gridlock. Performing, working late at the field office. Or anytime there's no time or space to spit, there's Copenhagen Spit-Free Pouches.

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30:34Shannon Sharpe:ALS spoke to Michael Strahan using speech generated device controlled by his eyes. Johnson was able to record his voice so that the computer sounds just like him. It's continued to progress much faster than I ever imagined. I want people to understand just how quickly ALS can attack your body. Just over a year ago, I was picking up my seven-year-old daughter so she could make a wish on a birthday cake. Today, I couldn't do that. Johnson added that many people don't realize that with ALS, your mind still stays sharp. People sometimes look at the physical disability and assume you're not the same person inside.

31:14I think – I still think the same.

31:18Shannon Sharpe:I still dream. I still love my family. My body just doesn't cooperate. Man, this broke my heart. Yeah, that one hurt. I had a former teammate. Yes. O.J. Brigance. I don't know if he played with me in Baltimore, Joe and Ocho. We called him Juice. and man I think Juice is still around but I think Juice might have had this he might have had he might have been dealing with it for about 15 years it's normally quick it's normally the punter from what you call remember the guy from New Orleans Ocho the one that blocked the kick with Katrina at the Falcons yeah he has it yeah Steve Gleason man he said just a year ago and just like that but he says he gonna fight I mean obviously you know he's in clinical trials tried a lot of different drugs and I heard the lady was speaking say it's helped some but

32:29and

32:32Shannon Sharpe:listening to him talk He said the doctor said get your fares Yeah

32:43That's crazy

32:45Chad Johnson:Hey I been there boy I'm telling you Uncle Ojo

32:54Chad Johnson:I been there bro Hey Took my mom to To the hospital On Christmas thinking it was just going to be a quick checkup. Hell, she didn't get out of that in February, and Doc told us to our face, me and her, he said, hey, she won't make it another six months. Hell, he knew it was going to be a lot damn sooner than that. You feel what I'm saying? And thinking about it, just to go from walking around, talking, cooking, having a good time, holding her grandchild, to couldn't, I'm talking about to his bed rest, couldn't move, nothing but her eyes, bro. Damn. I seen it, bro. I know what it look like.

33:39Shannon Sharpe:You said she had cancer?

33:40Chad Johnson:Yeah, she had multiple myeloma, yeah. It just, and they break you down. Like she lost weight so quick. Next thing you know, like it'll people come by the house. She was like, tell them, tell them I'm asleep. She wouldn't want to see nobody. She didn't want -

33:54Shannon Sharpe:She didn't want to see nobody. She didn't want nobody to see her like that. I'm talking about it could be people who she grew up with,

34:00Chad Johnson:who been with her the whole nine. Outside of me, my grandmother, and my uncles, man, listen. Hey, bro, that's hard, bro. Hey, when I seen that today, bro, I seen that, I was like, wow. It is 39.

34:20Shannon Sharpe:39 years old. Damn. Life is precious, bro. It is, man. And when that doctor, because he told my sister, he said the same thing about my grandma. He told my sister, he said, you have everything in order because it's not going to be very many more times, Ms. Sharp, we're going to call you. But the thing is, Ocho, they know it. My grandpa, man, that man came in there because, you know, he always up. You know, doctor, they want to be upbeat. They want to keep you in a positive frame of mind. He said, how you doing today, Miss Porter? She said, I ain't doing good. I'm dying. Just like that.

35:07Shannon Sharpe:Just like that. I mean, he came in there happy. Miss Porter, how you doing? It's so good to see you. How we doing today? She told him, just like that, Ocho. She said, I ain't doing good. I'm dying. He said, Miss Porter, don't say that. Libby said, Granny, don't talk like that. She said, yeah, I'm dying. I know. Just like that.

35:28Chad Johnson:Yeah. Hey man, that's exactly how it is, bro. I'm telling you. I know what you're talking about, aunt. My mama looked me dead in my eyes and she asked me, am I dying? Hell, I knew she was. I couldn't tell her, yeah. Hey, I know exactly what you mean, boy.

35:46Shannon Sharpe:Yes. And you know, she's always been strong. I ain't really seen my, When my grandfather died, Granny didn't cry. So she gotta be strong, so I gotta be strong for her. I can't cry. Right. That's where the term came from. She said, boy, we all got an appointment where we can't reschedule. We all gotta do it, son. I just dropped my head.

36:16Shannon Sharpe:Man.

36:23Shannon Sharpe:Cause like I said, I'm a baby. She always called me, that's what she called me. Ooh, my mama comes, she's like, uh-uh, that's my baby. She said, I had him. She say, so that's my baby. And she was in Claxton Hospital. And I had told Libby, I said, Libby, go home, I'll stay, I got it from here. Libby had already got me a room at the hotel. I could walk, but I'll draw. It's like two minutes. It's right there on 301. so she wanted a shrimp dinner I said well I said maybe where we go get a shrimp dinner place she said it's the place right up there it's right down there from such a such okay I went and got a shrimp dinner I said you know I said granny these people know you eating shrimp in here she's talking about it's better than the food they be giving me the food they give me killing me I said granny yeah I said granny I think that the food they're giving you.

37:22Shannon Sharpe:She said, boy, I want a shrimp dinner. I want some of them old, what they call them? What they call them, Libby? Them old corn dogs. Yeah, yeah. So I go get a hush puffer. I said, but Libby, go ahead and go. I let Libby go home because Libby was there every day. From the time my grandmother went to Glenville Hospital, even when she went to Claxton to have stuff done, my sister was right there with her. So I told Libby, I let Libby go. Man, Ocho. So I said, well, I'm gonna stay until she go to sleep. Right. Every time I moved, Grady would wake up. Where you going? I said, well, I was gonna go. She's like, nah, baby, don't go.

38:07Shannon Sharpe:I stayed as long as I, I mean, man, I'm sitting, cause I'm sitting in that chair, man, I was like, oh, my back killing me. So I waited, I let her get into a deep, deep, deep sleep. It was probably like 1 o 'clock before I got up out of there. Lev came back. When I came back that morning, I barely beat Libby in the room. She talking about, where you been? You must have been waiting. I don't know. I did. I did. But man, man, Joe, they know. They know. and you know I'm just like you said you know just be positive try to keep in a positive frame of mind but my grandma had to make my grandma had to make peace yeah that's the hardest thing boy that's it when they make peace with it and I have it my grandma said boy I don't live the great life I don't raise my kids raise you you three yeah she's like baby we all gotta do it We all gotta do it, son.

39:17Shannon Sharpe:Grant, I want you to know that ain't easy.

39:19Chad Johnson:By no means.

39:20Shannon Sharpe:Oh yeah, I don't care if she lived to be 125. Right. I still wasn't ready to let her go. Yeah.

39:33Shannon Sharpe:And my grandma is like your mom, Joe. Your mom thought you hung the moon.

39:40Chad Johnson:yep

39:46Chad Johnson:well many nights boy hey

39:51Chad Johnson:whoo

39:53Shannon Sharpe:i just feel so bad for the man he got what four kids i think he got four kids ocho yeah three yeah because he had a daughter no i think three he got three yeah two twins and a and a daughter. Two sons, two boys. 39, man. Yeah. That man, 39 years young. That's crazy. That's crazy.

40:23Look,

40:25Shannon Sharpe:some it happens quick. I've seen guys have it, and then within two years, they're gone. And like I said, I think Steve Gleason is still alive, and he's had it for at least 15 years. Oh Juice has had it for at least that long There ain't no Look Yeah he said it's taking control His mind is still sharp he knows who he is He's just trapped inside that body Can't do anything physically That's the hardest thing

40:55Shannon Sharpe:When you've been mobile Guys See somebody that's That's never had the ability to see they don't know what they're missing not seeing anything because they've never someone that's not been able to walk or someone that's born without arm they don't know what they're missing but to have it and to not

41:22Chad Johnson:yeah it's tough bro

41:24Shannon Sharpe:and for his kids to see him like this like you said I mean a picture of health so you know just my grip strength wasn't what it was once was you know drop stuff you don't think you know hey getting old it's a sign of getting old my grandma used to have hey boy uh open this one you granny you know jock whatever soda whatever it is

41:52Shannon Sharpe:damn chris

41:58man I hate to even think about that bro

42:04Chad Johnson:I ain't gonna lie I couldn't even watch the whole thing

42:08Shannon Sharpe:cause it when it said cause I'm like thinking about it Ochoa so I'm hearing I'm like well damn he talking and then I look closer I'm like no he not talking yeah I was like, man, it's a year. He says it's been a year. Yeah.

42:42Shannon Sharpe:My grandma used to say all the time, boy, you think we got it bad, but some of you got it worse. Every time. It puts everything into perspective. You think she just trying to, you should just, you think people when they say that, they just trying to make you, you know. No, that's true. That is one thing. No matter what you're going through, somebody is going through something much worse. That doesn't make your situation, that doesn't make your situation that is not important, that you're not going through something. But whatever you think you're going through, I promise you, somebody's going through something much worse.

43:22yep

43:26Shannon Sharpe:we all just want to help and to be able to not be a joke you couldn't help your mom I couldn't help granny his family can't help him it's in God's hands now all he can do is just state hey I want to live another day I want to fight another day I don't know maybe 5 years 10 years 15 years from now they'll find a cure or at least something to slow down the effect of it maybe but you do realize there ain't no money in cures money's in treatment I can't why would I want to cure you from an addiction I treat you and get money longer

44:16Shannon Sharpe:even if they found a cure the big drug companies will kill it. Yep.

44:21Chad Johnson:They hurt their pockets.

44:26Shannon Sharpe:Damn, CJ.

44:32Chad Johnson:Mmm. Mmm.

44:45Shannon Sharpe:I guess all we can do now is pray.

44:48Chad Johnson:That's it.

44:52Chad Johnson:That's it, man. Hey. And thank him. Thank him.

44:56Shannon Sharpe:Just ask God to let his will be done.

45:25Shannon Sharpe:I don't even know what to say Ocho I don't know what to do ain't nothing we can do with all our thoughts and prayers hey listen you know you know I get why I'm trying to keep quiet I ain't doing no crying tonight because I ain't ain't doing no crying tonight Mm-mm. And because I remember when I would go back into Baltimore and the Ravens took care of Ju's care. So he had an office at the Ravens facility. They would come pick him up. They'd come pick him up at his house, have a car, pick him up, and bring him to the facility every day. Ju's had an office there.

46:07Shannon Sharpe:and you know obviously his wife Juice you know this OJ you know who this is through the computer just like man that's Shay good to see you man it broke my cause he was such a fun loving guy never had a bad word to say about it anyway but go back and look at that Super Bowl OJ made like the first four or five tackles on the special teams

46:37Shannon Sharpe:Lord have mercy

46:50Shannon Sharpe:The Lions have released Terry and Arnold Arnold is facing life in prison on kidnapping and robbery charges Arnold has his bond set at$1 million Monday in Hillsborough County, Florida Judge Christopher Sobele, who added the following instructions. He's not allowed to contact the six co-defendants or witnesses in the case. He must surrender his passport within 48 hours. He was ordered confined to his residency in Tallahassee, Florida, except when he would be playing, training, and traveling with the Lions or making court-related appearances or legal appointments. The state asked the judge to require Arnold to wear a GPS tracking device, but attorneys argue that he would not be able to play football with such a device.

47:42Shannon Sharpe:Another situation, Ocho, I guess he had an Airbnb. Normally, I guess if you have an Airbnb, you're supposed to have insurance on it. Yes. Somehow, jury, something got missing. He felt the people that did it, he knew who it was and what's being reported is allegedly like they got some girls and they set the guys, set them up. And allegedly that's what happened. But the police report says the people that they have, that wasn't the people that did it from what they could deduce. Right.

48:30Shannon Sharpe:and look it's a tough situation look I know the attorney that he represents Harvey Steinberg Harvey's out of Denver normally Broncos when they have a case I don't know one person that's ever not had something going in Denver that Harvey Steinberg didn't have so he is as good as you're going to find

48:50Chad Johnson:so the Lions cut him though right

48:53Shannon Sharpe:they cut him I'm not surprised by this Ocho I don't think anybody's surprised by this No absolutely not You gotta make better decisions You gotta make better decisions Matter of fact the people around you They also have to make better decisions I'm not sure Who I did was Understanding okay something is missing Something is going missing There should be no retaliation For that especially nobody that's Under my umbrella It's me being the golden goose It's me being the football player if anything does go wrong it's all coming back on me, it's not coming back on y 'all

49:32Chad Johnson:some people ain't thinking like that though Ocho, I'm telling you you gotta look at this young man's situation clearly he wasn't thinking like that here he felt somebody wronged him hey hold on, you think y 'all finna get over on me, he gonna try to handle it with his own hands and obviously that was the wrong thing to do but some people don't think logically you know when something happens to you and you feel like you've been disrespected it bro hey joe once you once you in that league once you make it in those that are around you gotta understand once you the golden goose all that stuff used to do back in the days you know when when you had nothing going on and listen somebody take something from me all right i got to get it how i get it okay then i understand but once you make it man listen man whatever it was they stole you know what man listen my homeboys listen we ain't gonna worry about that we ain't We all know.

50:30Chad Johnson:That's how you should handle it, but hey, man, your influences around you are everything, bro. They are everything. They everything. So now you have a job. Because of the influences around you?

50:45Shannon Sharpe:That should be the least of his worries. He could possibly spend the rest of his damn life in jail. That should be the most important thing. Right.

50:59Shannon Sharpe:losing money is one thing, trust me having your ass in jail is something entirely different

51:08Shannon Sharpe:and like I said stuff that, look we've all said this somebody get the drop on you, okay I got a watch on, I got a necklace on, somebody get the drop on you bro, here take this yeah I ain't tussling about no, what there is nothing that's been created that can't be replaced other than life.

51:35Shannon Sharpe:My life worth more than anything that I've ever owned.

51:42Shannon Sharpe:I gotta make it home. I gotta make it home to my kid. I gotta make it home to my brother and sister. I got people that love me. I don't give a damn about no necklace, about no watch, about nothing. Car, nothing. Hell, I get out and walk. Somebody pick me up. They'll recognize. Man, that look like Charlotte, full-sided rope. Hey, give me a ride to the creek. Man,

52:07Shannon Sharpe:man. We have to think differently. We have to think smarter. And we got to do a better job. I mean, we got to do a better job of protecting ourselves. Look, Lauryn Hill said something very interesting like last night. if they're not going to respect us let us not disrespect us

52:31Shannon Sharpe:we can work together we can

52:40hey if anybody got to have a sound mind if the athlete's not going to have a sound mind somebody in your circle got to have it you're right Ocho somebody on I told you a Joe when we was young huh when we was younger during my day you know obviously I come up through the 80s and 90s you know that era you know how that era was you know what that was about me trying to be cool and wanting to be with all them man if you don't get your ass from around here man this ain't what you do that used to be how it was though Joe we had structure and there was discipline even them boys that's doing what the people that's the that's wrong joe it was structure and discipline you're gonna make it out right if you don't rock on that side of the track you're not even allowed to come around there nope somebody got to be in the right state of mind

53:39Shannon Sharpe:could be taken away from you just like that boy yeah for sure okay uh uh uh joe you remember for Vernon Forrest, the fighter.

53:48Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know you're talking about.

53:51Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

53:55Try to track, hey, try to track the guy down.

54:02Shannon Sharpe:Nah, man. And the thing is, Joe, Ocho, I don't even want nobody. Hey, y 'all we cool. I got home, man, I grew up with you. But how you move, I don't move like that. and because I don't move like that I can't have you in my circle I used to go around the corner and I stopped I ain't changed I'm still sharp I can still be sharp I ain't got to hang around here to do that

54:36Shannon Sharpe:and I appreciate them they like sharp come on man I can't let you ride the towel because you get stopped I got the stuff on me the headline's gonna be you.

54:49Chad Johnson:All day long.

54:51Shannon Sharpe:Hey, man, they like, when I go in there, man, I tell them, that's my homeboy. Me and him went to school together. I'm like, well, you know, you can tell them that when they come out. You ain't got to go in there to tell them. You know what I'm saying? They like, hey, bro, you ain't. Man, they don't even believe me. Well, when you come out, when they come out, come right here, my sister tell them, they say, yeah, we went to school together. You ain't got to go back in there to prove that. But nah. Damn, man, Taren.

55:25Shannon Sharpe:But Ocho, you said something very important. That used to be how it was. They protected us. Like, man, you ain't, you ain't, get your ass around from here.

55:37Chad Johnson:Exactly how it used to be.

55:41Hey, them same ones, Joe. Still here. Yeah. Still here, still, still here.

55:50Chad Johnson:Ain't gonna lie, a lot of cats I grew up with, man. A lot of them gone too, boy. Yeah. Like from the neighborhood, like, yeah. Yeah.

55:59Shannon Sharpe:Oh, they got time. Yeah, a lot of them ones that I grew up with, like my age or a couple years younger than me, oh, they got time. Yeah. And what I don't get is they do a nickel, get out for six months, right back. Let's do a dime, get out, go right back. I'm like, what is the allure that y 'all keep going back?

56:22Chad Johnson:Yeah, it's the hustle in them that they can't shake, bro. They can't shake that hustle, that fast money. They can't shake it. Gotta get back out there in the field, baby.

56:33Shannon Sharpe:And they, Joe, they love bragging. Man, we be watching, I said, man, I went to school with him. That's my boy. They love, I'm like, bro, you do realize you don't have to be in there to be proud of what I've done. Yeah, we went to school. Because, you know, people come around and they come from different areas. Hey, Sharp, tell them. Didn't I play with you? What did I do, Sharp? Man, you ain't even good, man. You know, it's like, if I say they're good, they're good. Because it's like, oh, he's playing the pro, so he ain't even good. Yes. yes I had guys that was my probably the best athlete one of the best athletes that I went in there was Frank Shepard me and Frank was like this here he and I grew up we went to the same church you talking about a hell of an athlete

57:35Shannon Sharpe:he could have played in the pros He was every bit the athlete, if not better than what I was.

57:42Chad Johnson:Yeah, you see that coming up too, bro. So, hey, I done seen so many guys, bro, who I came up with. I'm talking about had talent at the wazoo. You hear me? But, man, when you don't got no structure or discipline with that, it's hard to make it, bro. It's hard to make it. Ooh, it's hard to make it.

58:06Shannon Sharpe:you know what guys what i used to do i used to say all the time man if i made it we from the same environment i don't have any more than you have you don't have any less than what i have and i said you know what i stopped thinking like that i said because i had something that you didn't have i had mary porter see why some of their moms and grandma let them do whatever they wanted to do first of all that never even crossed my mind when papa was five and then when granny I think granny got a little bit more stricter because she knew he wasn't going to be around so stuff that she might have let slide if he was around granny played that and then knowing what she had done for you know raised her nine and then took my mom's three yeah I was usually you know, suck the teeth here or there.

58:59Shannon Sharpe:You know, I got to get popped. Yeah, yeah. I ain't finna tell nobody I better model. I'm a model of Fred, son. Because I ain't. But, man.

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1:03:15Shannon Sharpe:All right, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

1:03:30Shannon Sharpe:Uh, Ocho. All right, so after today's game, I know y 'all would be world-class goalkeepers. Elite tight end wide receiver hands translate perfectly to the pitch. What a wasted talent. Damn. Nah. Germany and the Netherlands really could have used y 'all for some close saves. Who would be a better goalie? Keep up the great work.

1:03:49Chad Johnson:I'd be a hell of a goalie. You want to get in?

1:03:53Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, you got the height, Joe. I don't know how your hands ill, Joe, because you ain't no care. Yeah, Joe, I don't know, Joe. I'm telling you. You might have them D 'Andre 8s.

1:04:01Chad Johnson:Come on, come on, man. Come on, come on.

1:04:04Shannon Sharpe:Hey, Joe, hey, you see the goalie. You see the guy was on top of it, and he still got through there. The German goalie was on top. Excuse me. The Dutch goalie was all on top of it on Chelsea. But it still squirmed through that.

1:04:16Chad Johnson:I got great anticipating skills. I'll be good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can anticipate real good. I don't know, Joe. I don't know, Joe. You ain't no goalie. To play goalie, you got to be there. You got to be crazy a little bit with that ball coming at you that fast. You got to be good at moving. You got to have good movement. You know what I mean? Yeah. I see what's going on. I'll be able to cover the whole damn thing too. Hey, Joe, you got to understand your angles, man, and being able to close down space to shrink the goal too now. Yeah, I could do that. You think you could score on me if I was a goalie and you was trying to, you did a...

1:04:53Chad Johnson:Joe, I was scoring you blindfolded, Joe. Man, get the hell out of here. I was scoring you blindfolded. You didn't get the hell out of here. What do you think I am? You think I'm just an easy win, don't you, man? Nah, Joe, you trash when it come to soccer. Man, I ain't never seen my footwork or nothing and just go holla up, I'm trash. Yo, I don't need to see none of that, Joe, especially when it comes to soccer, you trash. Okay.

1:05:14Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, you gonna score on his left with your left foot? Yeah, I'm amper Dexter's when it comes to that ball. I'm kicking with my left and my right. Oh, no, Ocho, hey, Ocho, hey, he like to put one in for A.

1:05:26Chad Johnson:Man, I'm blocking all that Ocho got going on. Man, that man ain't - Damn, Ocho, the man say he blocking your shot. He coming down like that. Man ain't blocking nothing but somebody on his phone. That's about it.

1:05:41Shannon Sharpe:prayers up for Chris Johnson his wife and his kids nobody should have to go through this disease as terrible as ALS I hope he knows just how loved and appreciated he is as a former player and a man that is absolutely correct that is absolutely correct what's up nightcap watching the CJ 2K interview was sad to watch life is such a blessing just the normal activities that we do and don't think about is a blessing prayers to all with ALS

1:06:09Chad Johnson:we take for granted bro just walking jogging running being able

1:06:13Shannon Sharpe:to work out you take all that for

1:06:15Chad Johnson:granted bro

1:06:17Shannon Sharpe:you take for granted you take a lot of things for granted until you get hurt you hurt your shoulder and all of a sudden you can't use but one side of your body you're like damn you hurt your knee Joe when you do your patella and all of a sudden you can't walk you realize damn I might not can run but hell take damn running I just want to be able to walk Hey, hey, now you talking, boy.

1:06:39Chad Johnson:Hey, Ocho, boy, this is a hell of an injury to have, boy. I'm going to be honest with you. I ain't never had nothing worse than this, bro. So getting back, like you say, just getting to the point to where I can walk comfortably. Maybe I can bust out a little jog, you know. I can get on a treadmill, get it up to about 4.56, you know. Shit, man. Hey, it make you appreciate those little things, bro.

1:07:05Shannon Sharpe:It does. What's up, Nightcap family? True story. I went to Vegas and I met CJ2K and Calais Campbell last year. Told him I love his game and we talked for a good minute. Felt like I was a little kid. I'm 27 between. Glad we talked. This is sad, man. It is.

1:07:25Chad Johnson:Yeah, I'm telling y 'all, bro. It was hard for me to watch the full interview, bro.

1:07:29Shannon Sharpe:It is, man. It is.

1:07:32Chad Johnson:I couldn't, man.

1:07:33Shannon Sharpe:It was. It was, Joe. damn yeah i can't i can't yeah hey well you know hey joe i beat you i i beat too emotional man when it come to talking about stuff like that man i know you hey hey joe hey uncle was telling me about his dogs one day man joe i'm over here balling boy and i'm trying to hide it you know because i got my shades on but you see all the tears coming down my face and he hey listen he just talk about dogs from the past not nothing new and i'm over here i'm over here like a little kid like i'm like yeah i can't i can't i can't do it like yeah man when you realize how short life is you realize how much petty stuff that we kept bottled up yeah why i got it why i got a problem with his man, okay, somebody don't like me.

1:08:30Shannon Sharpe:Life too short for you to worry about that, don't you?

1:08:36When you start, when you start coming

1:08:39Shannon Sharpe:and thinking about your own mortality, are we gonna leave here? We just don't know when, we don't know how. Ooh, it's a good thing we don't. Cause everybody wait till the last week or so to try to get right. Did you say the last week? The last week, huh? The get right. Shout out y 'all getting me through the nights at the truck driver. Much love, my lady knows I be on the phone with her, but listening to y 'all, please shout out my girlfriend Yavonna for her birthday, which is the same as Joe's B-Day, real ones born on the other night. You already know it. What's happening? You hear me? Yeah. Happy birthday.

1:09:21Shannon Sharpe:Happy birthday, Yavonna. And, bro, thank you for supporting Nightcap. We get a lot of bad people that work in workhouses or drive trucks. They say, man, y 'all make the night go by fast. So thank you guys because you make it all worthwhile. Shout out to my wife, Kelsey, and my dog, Petey. He's a miniature schnauzer and 12 years old. Just found out he has cancer today and not much longer left. Any advice on grieving? Life will never be the same. Hey, Ocho just told you, tough, bro.

1:09:49Chad Johnson:You had to put one down. You had to put your dog down.

1:09:54Shannon Sharpe:I've had to put

1:09:58Shannon Sharpe:Kane, Killian, Samson, Rooney, Tonka Man, Tarzan, Baby Seven. I've had dogs since 92. I've always said, if I ever got me some money, I'm gonna have dogs. Because I grew up around dogs. I grew up around animals. So my grandfather had a farm. We had hogs. We had chickens. We had dogs. you know champ Joe boy so I've always wanted dogs I'm always going to have a dog no there ain't no advice bro you're going to have to get over just realize and I had to go through this and my sister said Shannon

1:10:43Shannon Sharpe:are you keeping a dog alive for you or are you keeping him alive for him because his quality of life isn't going to improve and just cause you got the money to prolong it don't let him suffer and I've always felt I've always tried to give my dogs an opportunity I've had the money but then when I come to the realization this ain't no quality of life I call the people in I have them in my arms but give them that calm them down come on man

1:11:16Shannon Sharpe:it's tough man It's tough, Joe. It's tough, man. It's like a damn child. Anybody that has a pet and has ever had to do it, you know. You know. Sending prayers for CJ2K. Stop it. You tripping. Michael, Shaq, Kobe never called themselves the chosen one or the GOAT. Doesn't matter. Today's NBA defense is Quillipin' the flag football. Y 'all would dominate if the NFL changed their defense. Look, we can say that about every era. Yeah. What do you think the 60s said about the 70s? What do you think the 70s said about the 80s? And the 80s said about the 90s? Nothing has changed? Nope.

1:12:11Shannon Sharpe:So, would you prefer him say he's not the best? I thought y 'all like when players say they're the best. Oh, just the player y 'all like to say he's the best. Okay. Okay, I'm cool with that. I wish Ocho criticized NFL like he do these NBA guys. I never heard him say nobody loves the game of NFL. Well, that means he ain't watching enough then. He ain't watching enough. Because I'd be age right. My guys, Ocho, can you break down what makes Devontae Adams' route running so smooth? And ISO, looking back at D-Book in Phoenix, is loyalty overrated if your organization isn't putting you in position to win?

1:12:53Ocho, what makes Devontae? I mean, for one, he's not the fastest in the world, but he's fast enough. He's very, very, very twitchy. And every time he gets that hezzy, once he gets you the hezzy, once he gets you the free, just a little bit come off the line, He used the same move every single time, and it worked every single time. He come off, hop, skip, freeze, take off. And once he gets you going, he's going to transition before you every time. Yep. And you at his mercy. You try to be aggressive, try to be, you know, get up there and try to jam, you're going to miss every time because he's quicker than you are.

1:13:31You try to play off, he's going to get into you, he's going to reset the line of scrimmage, he's going to shake the shit at you.

1:13:37Shannon Sharpe:He makes everything look the same. There's really nothing you can do. He really does make everything look the same. Every time, yeah. He's so good in transition, which means getting in and out of breaks. Out of breaks, yeah. A lot of times, and it really works when a guy, because a lot of times when a guy has speed, when you build that speed up, it's just like anything. It takes a while to stop. Oh, yeah. But he has, like Ocho said, he has enough speed. Speed, yeah. But he, and then he's like, he's going to do this, bop, and he's going to take off running. It's not. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, it's overrated because teams expect loyalty from players.

1:14:20Shannon Sharpe:Something players really rarely, not all, rarely get from teams. You'll get a situation for every Steph Curry and Kobe. But look at me. I mean, look at a lot of the greats. excuse me, Karl Malone left,

1:14:42Shannon Sharpe:Charles Barkley left, Patrick Ewing, Hakeem Olajuwon. I mean, it's a different era now. Yeah. And guys can move. Back then, a lot of times, guys couldn't move. Like the NFL, the guys didn't move a whole lot because they couldn't. I had your rights. So I offer Ocho. Ocho could go to five Pro Bowls, be a first-team All-Pro three times. I offer Ocho$200 ,000. He'd take it or sit his ass at home. Shh.

1:15:15Chad Johnson:Hey. I'm going to sit at home.

1:15:17Shannon Sharpe:He couldn't go anywhere. I can make$200. Hey, listen. Well, that's what you had to do.

1:15:21Chad Johnson:And if you look at it, though, Phoenix, they continue to pay him, though. They continue to pay him and keep him around. Yeah, they paying big money, too, here. He ain't getting no chump chain, now.

1:15:32Shannon Sharpe:Oh, no, no. Book making, bud. I live in Memphis. With Jargon, the stadium's going to be empty.

1:15:39Chad Johnson:I got the young phenom coming in there, Cam Boozer. They ain't moving the needle? No. I mean, he's going to move the needle, but he ain't moving it like that. Guards or women. Well, listen. You got to bring in some good veteran leadership surrounding him. I like Jeremy Grant. I think they're trying to bring peace. Man, Memphis trying to start over, man. Yeah, they starting over from scratch, bro. So you don't know what they going to look like.

1:16:13Shannon Sharpe:Chin up, Unc. I can see the hurt in your face when you go silent. Iso is the only one repping the nightcap. Nightcap. What? I got my sign on. Solo Ojo Ocho. Stop being cheap and turn the nightcap sign on.

1:16:28Chad Johnson:He came, man. It looked like the Waffle House sign over there. You can't turn it on.

1:16:33Shannon Sharpe:Bro, I got the nightcap sign on. Yeah, yours on. I know y 'all can see that.

1:16:38Chad Johnson:Don't worry about it, Ocho. We used to it, bro.

1:16:44Shannon Sharpe:Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y 'all know who I am. I'm your favorite uncle, my partner and co-host. We're over to turn his light on, the Waffle House sign on. That's the Liberty City legend. That's Chad Ocho Seco Johnson. And the seven-time NBA All-Star from the Atlanta Hawks, that's ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you for your support and your continued support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of shade by LaPortier, head over to LaPortierCognac.com to purchase you a bottle if it's currently unavailable in the state or city near you.

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1:17:30Shannon Sharpe:Ja was traded today well first of all big upsets Germany and the Netherlands are out of the World Cup Morocco beats them on PKs and Paraguay beat Germany on PKs what else Memphis Grizzlies traded Ja Morant to the Portland Trailblazers for Jeremy Grant and Chris Murray Jalen Duren is he didn't like the offer that Detroit had for him, so he's looking. He's meeting with Sacramento with the possibility of meeting with the Lakers for a potential sign and trade deal. He just needs a little help. He just needs a little help. That's it. A little help. Atlanta Hawks are declining the$24 million option on Jonathan Kaminga.

1:18:15Shannon Sharpe:Draymond Green is declining his$27.7 million player option. And Ben Simmons is training for a potential comeback. Let's go, Ben. and former NBA players Malik Beasley and Davis are six defenders indicted Monday on charges related to an alleged sports gambling scheme that targeted at least four games in 2023-2024. So that's nightcap for tonight. I'm up. He's Ocho. He's ISO. We're off tomorrow, but we'll see you Wednesday. Go USA. Go USA. Go USA. USA. USA.

1:18:56I believe that.

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