In short
Sports and pop-culture talk plus league recaps. Main segments cover Ben Simmons teasing an NBA return, Minnesota Lynx clinching a WNBA playoff spot, and “Big 3” Week 7 playoff-picture results (Dallas, Miami, Chicago, Boston). Later they debate boxing match-making and do Q&A plus a celebrity “start/bench/cut” game.
Guests/backgrounds
No named guests. Hosts are Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and ISO Joe Johnson (referred to as “Joe” and “Ocho”); a third co-host/voice is ISO Joe Johnson. They also reference other athletes/figures as discussion topics (Kayla McBride, Olivia Miles, Ben Simmons, Montrezl Harrell, etc.), not as guests.
Key claims
- Ben Simmons could return in a non-point-guard role (power forward/center-like), but his lack of shooting is the main offensive liability.
- Minnesota Lynx are “prohibited favorites” for the WNBA playoffs.
- Big 3: Dallas is top-seed ready; Miami is the “team nobody wants to see”; Chicago vs Boston hinges on Montrezl Harrell vs Jeremy Pargo.
Notable examples
- Kayla McBride: 43 points, 10 threes (10-of-14), career-high; 10-of-14 contested/open breakdown cited.
- Big 3 Week 7: Dallas beats Chicago 50-40; Miami beats Houston 51-40; Detroit beats Boston 51-39.
- Boxing: debate over why Davis vs Haney needs the right money and fighters wanting to fight; examples include Mayweather-Pacquiao and Crawford’s undefeated retirement.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOBen Simmons' Comeback Tease
0:00 to 0:25
Discussion on Ben Simmons' potential return to the NBA and his past struggles.
“Some people use ChatGPT to answer questions.”
Ben Simmons' Comeback Tease
1:29 to 2:06
Discussion on Ben Simmons' potential return to the NBA and his past struggles.
“Ready for a night that's nothing short of iconic?”
Ben Simmons' Comeback Tease
2:09 to 4:38
Discussion on Ben Simmons' potential return to the NBA and his past struggles.
“Ben Simmons posted a photo of himself teasing a comeback.”
Minnesota Lynx Playoff Prospects
4:38 to 8:02
The Lynx's performance and prospects heading into the playoffs.
“come on back and riddles and That's today's era, huh?”
Big 3 Week 7 Recap
8:02 to 13:20
Recap of Week 7 performance in the Big 3 league and playoff implications.
“Man, it's going to be, look, right now they're the prohibited favorites.”
Playoff Matchups and Predictions
13:20 to 14:01
Predictions and analysis of upcoming playoff matchups in the Big 3.
“but it ends the way you want it with a win and a glimpse of what's coming next year.”
NBA Playoff Predictions
14:01 to 18:47
The hosts debate the outcomes of upcoming NBA playoff matchups, specifically Chicago vs. Boston and Dallas vs. Miami.
“See, Miami got two guys in Bees and Lance.”
NBA Playoff Predictions
19:25 to 21:09
The hosts debate the outcomes of upcoming NBA playoff matchups, specifically Chicago vs. Boston and Dallas vs. Miami.
“Ready for a night that's nothing short of iconic?”
Boxing Discussions and Challenges
21:23 to 28:00
The hosts discuss the challenges in boxing today, including fighter motivations and the importance of money in matchups.
“It's time for our final segment of the evening.”
The Value of Fighting for Championships
28:00 to 31:20
Exploring the mindset of athletes who strive for greatness over money.
“But the thing is, if you hear all the great fighters talk, what they say?”
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Examining the Minnesota Lynx's Potential
31:20 to 35:00
Discussing the strengths and excitement surrounding the Minnesota Lynx.
“Hey, guys, I saw Fitzgerald give Revis the business one game, and then Revis said after the game, he hates defending in the slot.”
Debating NFL Defense Tactics
35:00 to 39:44
Analyzing the challenges and strategies of NFL defensive play.
“hey listen and the fact that i'm taking this long after seeing angela bassett right now to this day and seeing Angela Bassett in a prime, seeing Prem grill.”
Debating NFL Defense Tactics
39:50 to 40:00
Analyzing the challenges and strategies of NFL defensive play.
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Analyzing NBA Dunk Contest Skills
41:44 to 42:00
Recapping memorable moments from NBA dunk contests and player talents.
“in the dunk contest when Smooth won the dunk contest in Denver.”
Jumping Tall: The Art of Dunking
42:00 to 44:10
Explore the dynamics of jumping ability in basketball, focusing on height and skill.
“Yeah, hey boy, Ocho, that boy can get out the bed and do a windmill now.”
Kawhi Leonard and Playoff Reflections
44:10 to 46:28
Discussion on Kawhi Leonard's performance and playoff dynamics in the NBA.
“I think they're looking at a suspension, possibly.”
Breaking Up: A Financial Perspective
46:28 to 49:20
Insight into how financial considerations shape perspectives on relationships and breakups.
“I mean, you could only like, what can I do?”
Appreciation for Support and Community
49:20 to 53:16
A heartfelt expression of gratitude for listeners and support during tough times.
“you're adding of value to me in that sense that's why it's so easy for me to let go yeah i i don't no way.”
Appreciation for Support and Community
54:48 to 55:58
A heartfelt expression of gratitude for listeners and support during tough times.
“Honestly, honestly, honestly, no one wants to think about HIV, but there are things that everyone can do to help prevent it.”
Transcript
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2:02Shannon Sharpe:and backed by a 10-day money-back guarantee at a price that's up front from the start. Visit CarMax.com for details. Want to drive? CarMax. Ben Simmons posted a photo of himself teasing a comeback. He wrote, I wouldn't change the story. The highs, the lows, the pain, the time, the lessons. I embrace all of it. Every chapter built something in me that I couldn't have built any other way. Grateful for where I've been. Proud of where I stand. Ready for wherever this goes. Simmons last suited up for the Clippers in the 2024-2025 season. Joe, what's really going on?
2:39Chad Johnson:I think if y 'all want me to be honest, there's still a chance that this young man can still come back to the NBA and play. Now, will he come back and be a point guard at 6 '10"? No. but you talking about being one of those power fours or even playing some center uncle ocho to where when you rebound the ball you could push it it's almost like a fast break because i think he'll still be a pretty good defensive player yeah but the only thing man is gonna always hunt this young man is the fact that he won't shoot that damn ball man that's gonna always hunt him bro that's gonna always hunt him but i think i think he's he's a hell of a playmaker he's a hell of a player but to be the number one pick and you not a score in today's game is difficult bro it's difficult you don't think he got a chance
3:27Shannon Sharpe:it's hard to be a liability now on offense Joe
3:29Chad Johnson:your liability is over with that's why I say he can't come back and play the point guard he can come back and be like a four man to where you know screen roll to the basket play making the little dunker in the little short roll You know, if you get the rebound, you push it, you're able to playmate. But to be a whole point guard like he was and where he facilitating and bringing the – nah.
3:54Shannon Sharpe:Can he be Isaiah Stewart? Can he play that role? Get some rebounds, putbacks?
3:59Chad Johnson:You got to have some dog in you for that.
4:01Shannon Sharpe:Well, I guess he could be over there holding up a fish.
4:04Chad Johnson:Yeah, well, I guess he's going to stay going fishing. I guess so. Hey, that job Isaiah Stewart got, bro, you got to bring your lunch pail every damn day. you can't be playing but he isaiah stewart is an enforcer ben simmons ain't that no no absolutely
4:22Shannon Sharpe:right yeah i i just don't see it and but bro teasing and all this at least life lessons bro dang bro get your butt in the gym if you're gonna come back come back if not just move it along
4:38Chad Johnson:come on back and riddles and That's today's era, huh? That's how they move.
4:49Shannon Sharpe:Minnesota is locked in for the WNBA playoff. The Lynx are the first team to secure a playoff berth. Kayla McBride breaks the WNBA record for the most threes in a game. She made 10. If I'm not mistaken, she was 10 of 14, scored a career-high 43 points. Here's a closer look at McBride's record-breaking effort. She was shot 7 of 7 on contested field goals for 18 points, 9 of 14 on open looks for 25 points, 15 of 19 for 41 points off of teammates passing, included 8 of 9 from field goals off of the spectacle, Olivia Miles, for 22 points. She shot 9 of 13 for 27 points on catch and shoot attempts, perfect 5 of 5, 14 points with Paye Beckers as the primary defender.
5:33Shannon Sharpe:Right now, they're the prohibited favorites.
5:36Chad Johnson:Ooh. Oh. Oh, prohibited. Oh, Ocho. Yeah. I'm going to keep it real with y 'all. I don't really see no team messing with this Minnesota team right now. It ain't even just Olivia Miles as a rookie doing her thing. You see Kayla McBride doing her thing. But Fee, since Fee came back. They don't got Fee back.
5:54Shannon Sharpe:Yep.
5:55Chad Johnson:Oh, it ain't even. Ocho, Fee, she the one. She won the one-on-one tournament, not last season, but the year before. Yes, sir. In Miami. What's that league?
6:07Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, rival.
6:09Chad Johnson:Yeah, in the rival league. She won that. So, look, she got hurt, but she came back. She can go. I ain't even talking about just offensively. Uncle Ocho, man, I watched him play against the Aces. She did a hell of a job in Garden Asia. Like, she can shoot the three. Like, she's a hell of a leader.
6:27Shannon Sharpe:Unrival, Joe, not to cut you off, unrivaled. That's the name. Unrival, unrivaled.
6:31Chad Johnson:She's a hell of a leader. Amen. Minnesota got everything you could want. in a squad, bro. They got great defenders, scores, playmakers. You right, huh? They in the driver's seat right now, bro.
6:46Shannon Sharpe:I know Dallas is kicking themselves in the butt for taking AZ Fudd over Olivia Miles.
6:52Chad Johnson:Damn, but see, that's something you can't, you couldn't really see that, though.
6:55Shannon Sharpe:No, you could see that she could pass the ball like that, but you know, look. You ain't think she was gonna come,
7:00Chad Johnson:you ain't think Olivia Miles coming into the WNBA doing what she's doing now, though, huh?
7:05Shannon Sharpe:Well, she was doing it in college, yo. If you watched her, she was getting triple-doubles and they should look at that at TCU.
7:12Chad Johnson:Nah, she was balling. Don't get me wrong. I seen her. I seen her play. I seen her. But what's she doing out here? Huh? But what's she doing in this WNBA?
7:21Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. But I think when I see like that and then the game is more open because there ain't nobody running no 2-3 zone. They ain't running no 1-3-1 and stuff like that. So she going to be able to operate in space. and she got wiggled, she can handle the ball.
7:38Chad Johnson:Yeah.
7:39Shannon Sharpe:Man, you see how easy she be getting downhill?
7:41Chad Johnson:Oh, not only can she handle the ball, man, her IQ for the game, Ocho, is so high. I'm talking about some of the passes she made. She made the game look easy, bro. Like when you watch people play and you see how comfortable they look out there and you're like, damn, why the game looks so easy when she played or he played? Bro, Olivia Miles got it, man.
8:01Shannon Sharpe:She got it. She got it, bro. Plus, Joe, what does she have now? She got better players. So you just can't gang up on her.
8:10Chad Johnson:Hello. Hello. Now.
8:16Shannon Sharpe:Man, it's going to be, look, right now they're the prohibited favorites. Damn. And she's the best rookie that I've seen since Candace Parker.
8:28Chad Johnson:Candace was a monster.
8:30Shannon Sharpe:Candace won MVP as a rookie. Yeah. And I think she won Defensive Player of the Year also as a rookie.
8:36Chad Johnson:She had it all, man. And her height.
8:39Shannon Sharpe:And it's going to be close. I think the voting is going to be close between Asia. I think Asia is going to win the MVP, and I think she's going to win Defensive Player of the Year again.
8:47Chad Johnson:You think so?
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8:48Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, she's leading in points. She's second in rebounding. She's like first or second in field goal attempts. She's first in blocks. She's like third in steals.
8:58Chad Johnson:Sound like MVP numbers to me. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
9:04Shannon Sharpe:She had, look, they did enough on him. They collapsed her, they suffocated her on defense. They did an unbelievable job on her. Fee, you know, Fee is the defensive player of the year. Yeah, I mean, it wasn't like, oh man, I can't believe Fee did, y 'all don't, do y 'all realize who Fee is?
9:23Chad Johnson:Hey, I told you, I seen the defense you played on Asia.
9:34The Dallas
9:35Shannon Sharpe:Now it's time for our big three recap Week seven Joe Dallas Power beat the Chicago Triplets 50-40 the number one seed was on the line Dallas answered the way they have all season 45 points 45 rebounds To 28 18 of them offensively Monroe went 16-13 Like it was 2012 Elijah Stewart added 16 to cap an MVP caliber year And Dallas heads to the playoff As the top seed Joe
10:02Chad Johnson:Man, I told you.
10:04Shannon Sharpe:Are you surprised? Dallas seemed like they won fairly easy.
10:07Chad Johnson:No, I'm not surprised. See, Chicago heavily depends on Montrell Harrell. You know, he was averaging 36 points a game. So, you know, like, if he ain't playing great, I'll get Ocho, which he was 10 for 23 today with 24 points, and that was pretty much it. You got power who's going to have at least three guys in double figures. Greg Monroe, 16. Elijah Stewart, 16. and Cameron Smith had 12. But T.J. Kline plays hard, too. Collectively as a team, as a unit, they're a much better team than Chicago Triplets. See, Chicago Triplets, they have to be heroic with Montreal just to win a game.
10:47Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, Montreal's got to go crazy every game.
10:49Chad Johnson:Man, it's hard to play at that level for an extended period of time throughout the whole entire season. So I expected him to come down to earth a little bit. And if them other guys don't chip in, it's going to be hard for them to win. Hey, the Miami team still in it, Joe? Yeah, boy, they hanging on. They hanging on.
11:08Shannon Sharpe:We'll talk about them in a second. DMV Trilogy beat the LA Rides 51-34. Earl Clark closed the season 23 points, 13 rebounds, and a statement win. DMV hit nine threes, defended everything, and held the LA to 34 points. For LA, it was a sad ending to a season that started with so much promise. All the preseason hype, the roster everyone circled in June never quite came together.
11:31Chad Johnson:Hmm.
11:32Shannon Sharpe:Nah.
11:33Chad Johnson:They didn't, man.
11:34Shannon Sharpe:Joe, what happened to the riot?
11:35Chad Johnson:I don't know. They got out to a decent start. I thought Jordan Crawford was going to be in the MVP race this year because he a bucket getter. But I don't know, man. The chemistry just wasn't that great this year for whatever reason. After them first, I think, two games of the season, they kind of -
11:49Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, they started to and know they beat, they beat, remember they beat Miami?
11:52Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah, yeah. They tape it off. They tape it off ever since then. DMV Trilogy didn't have the season that I'm sure they wanted to have, but, you know, Stephen Jackson going to have some dogs over there, bro. They were solid. I don't know. I don't think they going to make the postseason either. No, they didn't.
12:11Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. The Miami 305 beat the Houston Righead 51-40 right off Miami at your own wrist after Rocky's season. Guess what? they're back. Lance Stevenson, Michael Beasley scored 45 of the team, 51 points. Lance dropped 25, Bees dropped 20, and Miami is officially the fourth seed and the team nobody wants to see in August. You said this. You said, hey, if they make the playoff, ain't nobody going to see them. And they're playing their best basketball at the right time.
12:46Chad Johnson:They are. What they have told you, man, Beasley and Stevenson, bro, when they play at this level, Uncle Ocho, it's going to be tough to beat them. Now they fought and they clawed throughout this whole season just to get in this postseason, just get in this playoff. And I'm sure there's a lot of other teams out there who did not want to see these boys, but they going to be locked and loaded. Lance and B's locked in, bro. They always going to have a chance. The rest of them guys, yeah, they just got to be bodies out there.
13:15Shannon Sharpe:The Detroit Amps beat the Boston Ballhawks 51-39. Detroit season ends here, but it ends the way you want it with a win and a glimpse of what's coming next year. Boston was locked into the three seed going into the game. Joe, you guys, y 'all got hot at the end.
13:32Chad Johnson:Yeah. Hey, play spoiler, man. When you're out of it, you can't make the postseason, and you got a team like the ball halls with Jeremy Pargo, who was in the MVP race. Play spoiler, man. Come out there and play hard. You never know what's going to happen. Mess up their plans here. Yours messed up here. Why not mess theirs up? There we go, Detroit. We in the win column, baby.
13:56Shannon Sharpe:So here's the playoff picture. Dallas versus Miami. Chicago versus Boston. What you got? Who you like, Joe?
14:06Chad Johnson:Dallas versus Miami. Oh, that's Dallas versus Miami. Miami? You already know. I don't know, Joe. Hey. See, Miami got two guys in Bees and Lance. They're going to get money. But Dallas got three guys. And out of them three guys, one of them three guys can go for 22, 25 points. You know what I'm saying? If not our level.
14:34Shannon Sharpe:Maybe even 30.
14:35Chad Johnson:Yeah. So I don't know, man. Dallas ain't fought this hard to get the number one seed. I don't think they're going to come out here. You know what? I think I'm going to lean toward Dallas. you know what and that's why miami gonna win because you leaning towards dallas all right bet all right put something on it huh put something on it you already owe me 500 no i don't
15:00Shannon Sharpe:hey joe boy i'm telling you boy chicago versus dallas i mean chicago versus boston who you got joe chicago versus boston that's montrez i think boston has a chance i think boston has a chance
15:14Chad Johnson:Arcan Ocho because they got guys who can guard Trez and make it tough for them. You know, if Trez don't get no help from some of them other guys on the triplets team, it's going to be one and done for them. Point blank.
15:30Shannon Sharpe:MVP race. Pargo or Trez? Who you got, Joe?
15:34Chad Johnson:What's the numbers looking like? Trez probably at about, he got to be at probably about, what are you at? About 26?
15:40Shannon Sharpe:Probably about 30 and 10.
15:42Chad Johnson:I know he ain't played as many games as everybody else, Ocho, but the fact that he got them numbers, they mean something, bro.
15:50Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. And his team made the playoffs.
15:52Chad Johnson:Yeah, so I don't know. I hope my boy Pargo get it. But if Trey's get it, I mean, can't nobody really say a whole hell of a lot.
16:02Shannon Sharpe:Playoffs in the Celebrity Game are August 15th in Dallas at 12 p.m. Eastern. 12 p.m. Eastern on CBS. Ocho will be appearing in the game. Let's hope he gives a better showing than what he did last year because he was on some bull jive. Man, my showing was good. Hey, I'm on the flyer, huh? I don't know about the flyer. Yeah, he up there. They took a flyer on you to put you in the game. He on there. He up there. I can't even see.
16:31Chad Johnson:Hey, I ain't even see the flyer, man. You at the top. You at the top up there. I'm going to have to pop out on y 'all up there. No, you said you was coming. i'm gonna come on man just slow down turbo hey joe if you ain't on the sideline man i ain't playing man i'm gonna be there oh joe i got you bro i got that i'm saying i could come down there to atlanta get like two two two days with you yeah you can come get some work in man yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah oh lord have mercy hey hey hey joe i'm yeah i'm gonna come in probably come in wednesday
17:01Shannon Sharpe:wednesday and thursday so you come in the bag huh while you there you might as well get the bag while How are you there, Ocho? Oh, you gonna be in town? No, I'm gonna ship it to him.
17:11Chad Johnson:Okay. Hey, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh. Don't tell my business. I don't, you know, I don't like my, you know how I, you know, you know I'm very discreet, huh? You know I don't like my business out there discreet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. My bad, my bad. Hey. Hey, Joe, I'm gonna come in Wednesday, man. Get two days real quick with you, man. I bet I got my boy, he got a gym. Oh, it's gonna be. I thought we were going to the Hulk gym. Or you want to go to some little private area? I got it. I got it. We got a little bit of both. Don't worry. I got you. Don't worry. Okay. Okay. Don't forget.
17:42All right. Answer the phone. Hey, Joe don't want to answer the phone. I fly out there. He don't answer the phone. Talk about, hey, you might be taking a nap. He might be taking a nap again.
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21:23Chad Johnson:All right.
21:25Shannon Sharpe:It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.
21:40Shannon Sharpe:Chris Person, 7502. Rice had 22 touchdowns in 12 games. He did. Had a historic season in 1987. That was the strike-shortened season. That's why you only see 12 games and 22 touchdowns. He was offensive player of the year. Two times offensive player of the year as a wide receiver. Speaks volume to it. All Sports Talk 843. Fellas, I need you to put your prompter hat on, your promoter hat. How can we save boxing? Davis v. Haney is too much money to be made not to have that big fight. You know, promoter hat ain't going to help nothing. Hypotheticals ain't going to help nothing. What's going to help?
22:22these dudes got they gotta want to fight each other that's all it come down to and then the money got to be right that's what i'm saying they offer them boys a bag they'll fight but hell i
22:32Chad Johnson:mean the problem is they ain't offering the right bag yeah that's all but i think you'll see the
22:38Shannon Sharpe:thing is we looking at the right fight we looking at fights like when mayweather fought pacquiao mayweather fought uh uh this guy or uh uh sugar ray letter was fighting herds and haggler and the brand these guys didn't build up no name oh cho i mean with the two names yeah yeah but the two names that he just mentioned he said okay what way do we fight that haney gonna fight at 47 they wanted to fight a catch with uh shakori's gonna want to fight in the catch weight he gonna have to i mean devon is just a bigger individual in general it gotta be a catch weight i thought the catch weight was 144 but then you gotta well i i don't want him to rehydrate back up
23:23Shannon Sharpe:I don't know, man. It's like, man, hey, they got into the wrong sport. Don't nobody want to lose. Don't nobody, man. I don't want to get hurt. Bro, you got to put yourself in harm's way, Ocho. And stepping in the ring is really not putting yourself in harm's way. If I step on the football field, yeah, I could fall. But going across the middle is putting yourself in harm's way. Running slants, running shallows, that is putting yourself in harm's way throwing a punch when there's something that can come back that is putting yourself in harm's way sitting in the pocket that is putting yourself in harm's way so I don't know why guys chose to fight if they don't want to be in harm's way right isn't that a part of it though Joe?
24:06Shannon Sharpe:this is your expertise here it's a part of it also but again this is boxing when it comes to boxing especially in today's era you got to protect that zero because this is prize fighting therefore the prize has to be correct for me to take a chance on losing so if i'm taking a chance for one they got the money got to be right and obviously they look at you different this ain't like mma uncle joe this ain't like mma you could lose the mma and still make your purse and still be somewhat relevant in a sense to be able to get the fights in command the kind of person you want to in boxing it ain't like y 'all got big fights and he had five losses yeah but it's it's different it's different for certain individuals sugar ray got big fights hearns got big fights uh haggler got big fights name somebody that didn't get big fights the only but that's back then it's different now this era of boxing different yeah they won't fight the only difference is they won't fight i mean that too that that too and you have to protect that zero in order in order to command the kind of money you want to that's why everybody protects the old man the only guy that seems like he'll fight anybody ryan garcia oh yeah yeah yeah he itching to get out there i mean he dropped out to what 40 to take on tank depleted himself he fought haney what he fought haney at 47 yeah
25:31Shannon Sharpe:i mean look at some point in time you got to fight Everybody want to be Bud Crawford. Everybody want to be Floyd Mayweather. Everybody, but one thing about Bud, Bud fought. Yeah, yeah, he got it. Floyd fought. Floyd fought Goddard. He fought Hatton. He fought Cotto. He fought Corrales. He fought.
25:53Chad Johnson:Hold on, did y 'all fight? Did y 'all fight? Did y 'all watch Roach last fight?
25:58Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.
26:00Chad Johnson:That boy got out on him, didn't he, man?
26:01Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, he did. i think he underestimated oh boy yeah you think so yeah because he thought you know he said he wasn't expecting the movie he thought he's gonna be flat standing right there in front of him what was the zepeda always been a pressure fighter he always just come forward always he's always he's always fought everybody like that he comes forward he's not stopping but i guess he i guess he had some move had some movement this time around ocho i don't know but i want to see the fight hey Like I said, if you think about it, really the only guy that's been undefeated and got big. I mean, if you go back and look at all the fighters, all the fighters lost.
26:43Shannon Sharpe:There ain't been two fighters that's been retired. I mean, now Bud. Bud is retired undefeated. You got Rocky Marciona, and you got Floyd Mayweather. So, in the history of boxing, you got three guys that retired undefeated. Everybody else got losses. I think that's a figment of their imagination I think man the money won't be right the money will be that if you fight if you interested yeah that's a whole another aspect anyway is he interested on Joe do you like to see him fight very interesting is he interested Joe do you like to see him fight yeah and he has a fan friendly fighting style boots has a fan friendly fighting style those that don't you got to be cautious guess what Ocho guess who paid the salaries fans yeah you're right you can say they casual and don't know what they're talking about but when they put them money in their pocket and they don't pay for pay-per-view or they don't take their ass to the fight then what happened yeah you're right hell I know a fighter that was fighting his hometown and people walked out to fight on him what damn that ain't none of my business.
27:54Shannon Sharpe:I don't even know why I brought that up. But anyway, I'm just saying. Everybody can't be Floyd. Everybody can't be Bud Crawford. You can't. Fight. It's money to be made, Ocho. Yeah. But the thing is, if you hear all the great fighters talk, what they say? Hey, I want to prove I'm a champion. I want to prove I'm the best. You got a belt? I don't like you having a belt. I want your belt. I'm going to come get it.
28:25Chad Johnson:Yeah.
28:28Shannon Sharpe:Man, what that look like? Man, hey, man, give me the other guy. I don't want the number one DB. I want the number two DB. Nah, I'm the best. Bring your ass on over here. You say you, hey, you say you a pilot. Well, get some frequent fly miles. Come on over here.
28:44Chad Johnson:Hello.
28:45Shannon Sharpe:Hello. Follow me, though, hey. Because I follow you.
28:49Chad Johnson:Yeah.
28:52Shannon Sharpe:Fight. I want to see guys fight. Last night's show, Uncle Nocho was trying to compare Cleveland to the division winner of Pittsburgh Steelers. Really? No. We tried to play who? To the Pittsburgh Steelers. I asked. We said talent for talent. I said, do Cleveland have more talent? When you look at offense, defense, and special teams, do they have more talent than Baltimore? Do they have more talent than Cincinnati? We went through a list. We also did. We did Jacksonville. We did Houston. We did Indy. We did a lot of teams. Don't do that. Cut your team poop.
29:32Shannon Sharpe:No way you guys talking about talking toughness and violence without talking Hines Ward. Man, Hines, look here. He was a dog. Hines could have played it. Hines is a 1960s, 70s receiver. And he did everything with a smile on his face.
29:54Hey, Hines was mean, boy. Crackback, blocking, knocking DBs out, knocking safeties out.
30:01Shannon Sharpe:Got your guy Keith River. They changed the rules because of that. Yeah, bro Keith River jaw. Bro Keith River jaw. Little crackback. Damn. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, Andre Ward, somebody just said Andre Ward is undefeated also. He is. Dre say, hey, you offer Dre a bag. Dre'll get back in there. Hey, I'm waiting on him now. I didn't call him out. That's one thing about Dre. Dre be talking. I be listening to Dre talk. Dre be like, hey, I don't know. I might care to care, but for the right price, I sure would like to find out.
30:41Shannon Sharpe:Almighty James two times. I think Todd wants to start, Shador, but the big dog's not going to let that happen. Hmm. it's hard to have a 46 million dollar guy on the bench either you gotta play him or you gotta trade him or you try to release him but he can't be on the bench while you and Ocho was gone Iso was doing the best Ice Cube impersonation and he's still in character Nightcap fan base we up we up we the gold standard yes
31:22Shannon Sharpe:absolutely hey guys cheers to my Minnesota Lynx especially Kayla McBride dropping 43 this team is stacked Laney Ray that's from Laney Ray you know she gets excited about her you know the Vikings but then she'll be disappointed Minnesota Timberwolves you know we going all the way you might have something Laney with this one because the Lynx are they're loaded and they're playing extremely well and now they got feet back defensively? Oh, Lord. Yeah, they look good, man.
31:55Shannon Sharpe:Hey, guys, I saw Fitzgerald give Revis the business one game, and then Revis said after the game, he hates defending in the slot. It's much harder defending in the slot compared to outside. Absolutely, because that guy can go any damn where. Too much space. All the way across the field, start across and come back. They got the whip route. They got the option. They got the Zorro route. Too much space. Too much space to work with. And guess what? I'm running your ass all into the umpire. I'm running you into your own guy. Hey, when you out there, why? That's what they call it an island. Ain't nobody out there but you and him.
32:32Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.
32:38Shannon Sharpe:Who you got? Prime. Ooh, Halle Berry. Angela Bassett Pam Greer Dang Start bench cut Who you got Joe? We gonna start with you Joe Halle Berry Angela Bassett Pam Greer
32:52Chad Johnson:And they prime?
32:54Shannon Sharpe:Prime
32:56Chad Johnson:I'm going Halle Pam Angela Shh Boy you a fool Shh Who you got on Okay
33:05Shannon Sharpe:He gonna start He gonna start Pam No he gonna start Halle You starting Halle Who you bitching? Yeah, then I'm going Pam. Huh? Then I'm going Pam. Okay, you're going to bitch Pam, and you're cutting Angela Bassett. Yeah. Okay, Ocho, what you got? Boy, Joe Taste Bud is so goddamn bad, boy. Boy, I'm starting Angela Bassett, boy. What are you talking about? You're starting to be starting to be an anime bullet. What? No anime. Man, I'm starting Angela. Boy, I'm going Pam Gryll in her prime second, and Holly Berry, You know, you was a real deal with the short buzz cut, but you got to sit, baby. That crop, that crop.
33:46That crop, yeah.
33:47Chad Johnson:Hey, hey, hey, see, Ocho probably, man, Halle been bad so long. Look how he do Halle. Just throw it. Look, look. See, Ocho and Boomerang, they try to downplay Halle like she wasn't the baddest thing on Boomerang, too, until she, until toward the end. You see when she stepped in and she started playing her part. Huh? Hey, Joe. Joe. Yo, you do realize we talk about Angela Bassett and Pam Grier who been bad longer than her. Listen, listen, listen. Pam Grier, she tough as a wood nickel. I know exactly what you're talking about. Pam Grier tough, I already know. Yeah, yeah. Hold on, she tough as a what?
34:27Chad Johnson:A wood nickel? Yeah, she tough as a wood nickel. Hey. I'm using that.
34:31Shannon Sharpe:Hey, y 'all remember, you remember what you call her? Halle Berry with the crack head. She was gay to girlfriend in Jungle Fever.
34:39Chad Johnson:yeah i remember that i remember that man oh hey it was different back then boy god yeah
34:47Shannon Sharpe:oh you know joe i mean i like i'll be having that hair bad oh you're going pam i already know you're going
35:00hey listen and the fact that i'm taking this long after seeing angela bassett right now to this day and seeing Angela Bassett in a prime, seeing Prem grill. Come on, man.
35:12Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, you gotta realize. You do realize in the 90s that the Halle Berry cut her and Jada Pinkett.
35:23Chad Johnson:And here y 'all talking about it.
35:24Shannon Sharpe:As a matter of fact, now that I think about it, I got to take her. Cut a chick to pull the stick on me, man. She had that cut. What? Yeah, cut, you're like that. but she was she was built like angela bassett she just had a haircut she had a complexion like hallie berry oh okay she had the completion but she was about five nine about 160 see i think she said she like 165 168. hey i understand you and joe but there there is no there is no version there is no version as bad as holly berry was that is better than angela bassett and pam gray and they prime none and i mean never see and i mean that i mean that respectfully huh you ever seen them person who halle yeah i've seen all three of them in person yes yeah i mean that's why i said respectfully that woman real easy on the eyes joe chat gpt can do more than answer questions it can help you get real work done chat gpt work is built for bigger projects with multiple steps you bring the goal along with the information it needs like briefs notes files feedback calendars data sets or project plans then chat gpt can help turn all of that into something useful an analysis a tracker a deck outline a prototype or a workflow you can keep shaping.
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40:00Chad Johnson:I see you in person too. I know what you're talking about. You're going to die.
40:08Shannon Sharpe:Fellas, Richard Sherman said Riva's armbar is illegal in today's NFL. Do you agree? Ocho did it affect you when you play no his armbar wasn't illegal he did it the right way it's illegal today when he did it it wasn't impeding the receiver he did it as a guy to be able to feel where the receiver was and then impede what the receiver was trying to do so they wouldn't call it today they wouldn't call it feeling where the guy is is one thing not impeding where he is but being able to keep yourself in position to be able to make a play is what he did. Because he always did it. He did a great job of...
40:46Hey, his ball skills was un-effing believable. Like that. And he gonna get his head around right away every time. Once you pass five or six, seven yards, he get his head around right away. Yeah.
41:00Shannon Sharpe:With all that being said, I'm going Angela Bassett, Halle Berry, Pam Grier. Damn! Damn!
41:11Shannon Sharpe:So I got to agree. I got to agree. I got to agree with you. Mike, Mike 100, step the three-point goat and got kids chugging up threes. Monte, this lie don't make you no bad brother.
41:29Shannon Sharpe:ISO, why you let Jay Smooth dunk on Nash like that? Man, listen.
41:34Chad Johnson:Smooth caught so many bodies, boy. And he got some nasty ones, he got some nasty ones.
41:41Shannon Sharpe:Man, I won a thousand dollars off Porter in the dunk contest when Smooth won the dunk contest in Denver.
41:50Chad Johnson:Oh, Porter was in the dunk contest? Porter, he met me, Clinton Porter.
41:54Shannon Sharpe:Oh, you won a thousand, I was there. Yeah, I went with Smooth, remember Smooth coming out there, he that Dominique Jersey?
42:00Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, hey boy, Ocho, that boy can get out the bed and do a windmill now. That boy got, hey, Josh Smith, that boy ain't got eight. That boy got some spring. How tall Josh was? 6 '9, about still, 6 '9, 6 '9 1⁄2. Yeah, that boy can get lefty. When you already tall like that, it don't really do nothing for me, Joe. When you like 6 '2 and 6 '3 and you jumping out the gym, it just looks better. So you like Ant-Man, Duncan? Like Ja Morant. Yeah, oh, it just look better, boy.
42:32Shannon Sharpe:Oh, man.
42:33Chad Johnson:But hey, when you a tall dude and you got some bunnies.
42:37Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Oh, yeah, he got ups now, Ocho. He like Dwight Howard. Dwight Howard tall, but Dwight Howard got ups.
42:43Chad Johnson:Yeah. I'm talking about them one leg he got. When he spring off that one leg, Ocho, he taking flight. That boy, hey, that boy can fly, boy. I ain't gonna lie to you.
42:51Shannon Sharpe:God get it. I love all the content you put out. Shout out to King Isor and my fellow ball brother in Ocho. We appreciate that. Yes, sir. Appreciate that. Appreciate that. All the demands just to gag on 15 Popeye biscuits with no lemonade to wash it down against Denver in 2020. Who gagged in 2020? Oh, Kawhi. Because remember Kawhi, remember the Clippers, Ocho, Joe had a 3-1 lead. In the bubble? In the bubble.
43:20Chad Johnson:Yeah.
43:20Shannon Sharpe:And had the lead in games 5, 6, and 7, had leads and lost all of them. That 60-point lead, if I'm not mistaken, in game seven.
43:31Chad Johnson:Yeah, because they had a whip, too. They had a whip in that bubble. I'm talking about they probably had the best defensive perimeter guys you could want on your damn team.
43:40Shannon Sharpe:They had it. Didn't they have PG, Pat Bell?
43:42Chad Johnson:PG, Pat Bell, Kawhi. Kawhi. And this was a healthy Kawhi. Man, what? A healthy PG. Come on, man. You ain't thinking nobody walking through them, but Luke will walk them boys down.
43:56Shannon Sharpe:No, Jamal Murray walked him down. Yeah, he did. And Michael Porter Jr. Because remember, they failed Michael Porter Jr. only for his back. Yeah, yeah. Do y 'all think they'll ban Kawhi from the NBA and everything associated with it? No. Ban? No. No. I think they're looking at a suspension, possibly.
44:17Chad Johnson:Definitely probably suspension. But ban, no. They ain't banning you unless you out there doing some cocaine or something. For real.
44:29Shannon Sharpe:Betting on the game. Yeah, betting on the game, yeah. How do you get over someone you love deeply? Been back and forth. Been back and forth over a year. I messed it up from the start.
44:40Chad Johnson:Man, I seen – hold on. I seen Unc say shit. He break up. He put meat on something that night.
44:46Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Yeah, that's how you get over. The way to get over somebody is to let somebody else get up under. you hey i'm what i'm what how old is oh he didn't say noah did not tell us how old he was oh joe how you get over somebody oh joe sure hey i think about how much i'm gonna save once they gone you were i think about how much i'm saving once they're gone i i'm not i'm not i'm not lying but hey joe you laughing joe but when i'm when it's time to break up with somebody I always think about the whole point is well I'm the one doing for you I mean obviously you are an asset in some kind of way but I'm thinking about the money I'm saving okay you leaving okay bye and I love to hear what you won't do the next man will well god damn but do me that favor that ain't hurting me I'm cool I ain't tripping but I'm a little different because I look at I look at relationships from a different lens as opposed to when I'm losing someone, I'm looking at it from a financial standpoint of that's someone else's burden.
45:56That ain't my responsibility no more. I'm okay with that. So I look at it different. Other dudes like, no, I don't want to lose that extra added expense. I ain't got no problem losing the added expense.
46:08Shannon Sharpe:Well, damn, Mocho, is all she is an expense to you? Y 'all don't really have anything in common? um it's still an expense no matter what i don't care what we got in common you are still an added expense and if i'm losing added expense why in the hell am i chasing the
46:23Chad Johnson:bill why i mean that that's what it come down to joe i mean i'm not trying to be rude or nothing but i mean we what once you get past all the emotional oh i love you and all that kiki and ha-ha bullshit it's still an expense yeah but damn what are you doing you bought a condo you bought a rose royce damn it don't matter it don't matter what scale you buying on you bay on them on
46:48Shannon Sharpe:in some way you're paying for something two three thousand two or three thousand dollars a month put you in the poor house man you don't need to date it ain't about it that's the extra two three thousand in my pocket i ain't got to spend nah you gonna spend it because the one thing i know about you you ain't gonna spend no money that any you're not gonna go outside of your scope of your budget never I don't care who I'm with and if you don't like it go about your business so even if it's 2000 you gonna spit it on something probably some cigars true
47:20Chad Johnson:man say damn that
47:22Shannon Sharpe:I don't know bro it's to each his own I mean it's tough and I've been a firm believer in this breaking up is easy to do when you're doing the breaking up when you don't want to let go and sometimes even and I've been there bro I've been in the situation where I've been wrong I've done wrong and still didn't want to let go.
47:41Chad Johnson:Damn.
47:45But hey,
47:48Shannon Sharpe:when she says, is this it? I mean, you could only like, what can I do? And she say nothing. And you name rattle off some things that you might be willing to do. And she say, still, that ain't it. I'm out, Joe, I ain't got nothing else to kill. I'm not rattling off shit, Uncle Joe. Man, man, bye. I'm good.
48:12Chad Johnson:Hey, cause see, once you get caught doing something, she ain't never gonna trust your ass again. I don't care what she tell you.
48:19Shannon Sharpe:No, you right, yo.
48:20Chad Johnson:She ain't gonna trust your ass again.
48:22Shannon Sharpe:And then you just constantly bring it up.
48:24Chad Johnson:Yeah, there you go.
48:25Shannon Sharpe:Where you at? Every little argument, that's why -
48:28Chad Johnson:There you go, so it best to go on, go on, get up on -
48:30Shannon Sharpe:Go on to that beehive, go on to the beehive. I mean, I can't go over there no more. you ruined that once you call it told her that that you was in the cut i can't go over there yeah yeah hey you know you know how most people like i'm i'm just i'm just thinking about it right and like and i take that very very serious on because you know joe you you know me you know personally now for a little bit and and the way i've always been is when i'm with you i'm locked in yeah and when thing when things don't go right then the the business side of things it started going through my head so that's why i view it like there are a lot of people they may laugh and all but but um once that once things fall in a sense and i and i see it's not gonna work then i started thinking from a financial standpoint okay it's saving me more because there's really nothing you're adding of value to me in that sense that's why it's so easy for me to let go yeah i i don't no way.
49:32I've always been wired like that in a sense, especially that I'm seasoned now and I understand what's going on out there and I know ain't nothing out there. It's just easy. It sounds stupid, but it works for me. It has always worked for me. That's all that battles.
49:49Chad Johnson:But it took experience for you to get to that point though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Like you gotta think about a cat who ain't but 23, 22, who ain't been through nothing. You know what I mean? That thing hard, man. Yeah.
50:07I don't know. It's hard to explain because for us as men, we date women and we deal with them and we kind of, once we date with someone, we see it as that's my property. Ownership. I never view it as that. A lot of men, we view relationships and dealing with a woman as that's mine. I own that, especially when that money started coming into play, you started doing it. Boy, it's a dirty game.
50:41Shannon Sharpe:It's a dirty game. And when you played it long enough, them antennas act a little different. Spidey senses start tingling. Hey, Joe, when you've been number two for so long, you see all the games that they play in the lab that they tell them how they move and how they stick. Boy, Joe. Hey, Ocho, when them patterns switch up,
51:01Chad Johnson:oh that's when i switch the hell up yeah hey yeah yeah yeah them patterns switch up yeah i pay attention to every every list every little thing um yeah i'd be locked in it it take one thing but once the mantenders go up and i see some more yeah i told you like you just say hey oh you want to be funny all right we can make it a comedy show now you can make it a comedy show
51:28Shannon Sharpe:I mean you do that that don't make you no bad brother though Ocho no it don't it don't Christian Maynard 672 hey Ocho Aiso big shout out from you guys to you guys from the Bahamas this is the best show no doubt no one can compare you can't compete where you can't compare that's what's up that's really what's going on and we appreciate that it's uh it's comments like that it's like you guys showing up for us every time we show up and uh we really really really appreciate that i don't think you know sometimes words can't express adequately how grateful we are um and sometimes i wish i had a thousand tongues so i can tell you how just how thankful i am that you're able to to share with us and we're able to share with you um you know have a laugh and we you know some things that require a serious a serious tone and then sometimes for the most part we're able to have fun um and those are times like that that i wish i could just like guys i really really appreciate that y 'all know i appreciate it considering what we what we are what i went through personally and perhaps you guys to still show up and and hey we love you we support you just keep your head in there keep plugging away god got you uh ocho and you know you you and joe stuck beside me the staff not no anyone, no one wavered.
52:52Shannon Sharpe:It's times like this that you really appreciate and you see who's in your corner. And so, I'm not disappointed in the normal. I'm just greatly, greatly appreciative of the abnormal. And the chat that stayed with NICAP, Ocho and ISO, you guys and the entire team from graphics to social to the EPs, to editors, I appreciate you. Even if I've never told you, I honestly really, really appreciate you guys. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y 'all know who I am. I'm your favorite Unc, my partner and co-host, the Liberty City legend, the bingo, ring of fame honoree, the former pro bowler and the y 'all pro.
53:37Shannon Sharpe:That is Chad Ochocinco Johnson. And the third member of the Big Three is a seven-time NBA All-Star from the University of Arkansas. Mr. Clutch himself. That is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcasts from. Thank you for your eyes, your ears, and your word of mouth. It's greatly, greatly appreciated because all of this is all because of you. None of this is possible without you. All the awards that we've been able to win and we will win again in the future, all the support that you've shown us, that's all you.
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Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to the Minnesota Lynx locking in playoff spot and Nightcap’s BIG 3 recap!
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0:00 - Ben Simmons teases comeback with new photo
2:30 - Minnesota Lynx locked in for WNBA playoffs
7:35 - BIG3 Week 7 Recap
15:43 - Q & Ayyy
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