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8:56Chad Johnson:I'm going to say he going to get it. You think he going to get it, Uncle? I say no. you say no points rebound assist he gotta get

9:10Chad Johnson:i don't know man that little joke of that boy

9:16Shannon Sharpe:you like him to get it ocho go

9:25Chad Johnson:you say less yeah i'm saying all right we go less we go let both of them come off the bench in a damn way.

9:31Shannon Sharpe:Jalen Williams more or less than 15 and a half points. More or less.

9:37Chad Johnson:This one here is tricky. It is. Because his ass,

9:40Shannon Sharpe:he been out so damn long. And plus the thing is, Joe and Ocho, is he on a minutes restriction?

9:49Chad Johnson:Hmm.

9:51Shannon Sharpe:28 minutes long we gonna give him? Because we do have Mitchell. Now, if that's the case, now Mitchell look more likely to get it than not.

10:04Chad Johnson:damn uh basically gotta get 16 i'm gonna say he get it bro you think you have at least 16 points yeah i think so i hope so what you got ojo ain't played he ain't played in a minute i ain't gonna lie to you

10:23Shannon Sharpe:towards no. Yeah.

10:26Chad Johnson:Damn, so we got three in a row under.

10:28Shannon Sharpe:Nah, you went, yeah, we went under. Okay. Stephon Castle, five and a half field goals made. Will he have more or less than five field goals, five and a half field goals made? Yes. Yes. Young Bull, aggressive as hell.

10:44Chad Johnson:Yeah, I say he, I give him that. I think he'll get six field goals.

10:48Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, I think so too. $25 to win 150. Download the app today. use coach Shannon to get$50 in lineups after you play your first$5 lineup. Alright guys, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

11:15Shannon Sharpe:Before we get to the super chat, we got three video voicemails from our Discord. Let's take a listen. Ocho, I saw I got a question. Who do you think is the best NBA player that had never won a ring? Me personally, I think it's Westbrook. I'm 18 and I ain't really get to see all the OGs, but I got to see Westbrook be a two-time scoring champion, three-time assist leader, nine-time All-Star, nine-time All-NBA selection. The first player to get

11:44Chad Johnson:four triple, average to triple-double in four different seasons. What else he got? He's an MVP. he got the most points as a point guard all time he got the most rebounds as a point guard of all time he leads in triple doubles I just really think he's Westbrook and it's probably more than I'm missing what do y 'all think I'm going I like that I'm going Steve Nash nah hell not two time MVP

12:14Chad Johnson:and he he never won a ring one of the greatest one of the greatest point guards of all time. That's who I'm going with.

12:22Shannon Sharpe:You taking Steve Nash over AI? I was going Allen Iverson.

12:28Chad Johnson:Yeah, that's a good one. That's a great one actually.

12:31Shannon Sharpe:James Harden, Charles Barkley, Karl Malone.

12:37Chad Johnson:A great group. I'm just thinking with Allen Iverson. That was gonna be, that was. That's a good one Ocho, that's a good one. Yeah.

12:45Shannon Sharpe:Oh, hey. Elgin Baylor is another one.

12:56Chad Johnson:Damn. Barkley, Barkley, a good one. He made it to the finals.

13:04Shannon Sharpe:Look at Karl Malone, two-time league MVP. Made it to the finals twice.

13:08Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just played against a monster.

13:10Shannon Sharpe:That's the problem. Rebounding champ Yeah

13:19Chad Johnson:Carl Malone and Stockton That's a good one

13:22Shannon Sharpe:I'ma go I'ma go Chuck I see I see the chat Chat got Dame Lilla

13:34Chad Johnson:Mello

13:39Chad Johnson:CP3

13:41Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, Melo.

13:48Shannon Sharpe:I think Melo and Penny, because of injuries, you know, T-Mac, excuse me, T-Mac and... T-Mac and Penny.

13:59Chad Johnson:They played on some hell of a team. Yeah.

14:02Shannon Sharpe:Here's our second one. Let's take a listen. Yo, what up, Nightcap gang? Hey, look, man. I need y 'all to settle a debate for me. I was at dinner with a couple of my mans a couple weeks ago, and we was talking basketball, and these fools had the nerve to say that SGA is the only player from the current NBA that you can drop in the 90s and he'll still be putting up the same numbers. And I think that's crazy. I mean, I think it's a few that you can do that with. I just don't feel like SGA is one of them. You know what I'm saying? I get it. The boy, nice. He can get to the midi whenever he wants. You know what I'm saying?

14:32He can get to the cup, blah, blah, blah. But I feel like too much of his game is predicated on getting them weak-ass calls from the refs, all that flopping and flailing he be doing. So I'm curious as your thoughts, man. I know, Unk, I know you're the basketball history aficionado. Joe, I know you played the game. Ocho, I know you got that basketball knowledge. So chime in, man. Tell me what y 'all think, man. Help me settle this debate. Appreciate y 'all. Yes. I think. Hey, Unk, even with the hand-checking rule, there are a few players in every era where they would translate regardless of whatever they're playing in based on their skill set and what they're able to do.

15:08Shannon Sharpe:No, he said he's going to be the exact same player in the 90s as he of today.

15:14Chad Johnson:I think he'll still average 30. Yeah. You got to look. Think about this. He ain't no high-volume three-point shooter like a lot of these guys are. Yeah, he'll shoot it, but his game is predicated in between what we call the midi. You know what I mean? Getting to the rack. Obviously, drawing fouls. I think he fit right in in the 90s, bro. Yeah, it's a few guys in the NBA right now who you can drop in. I don't know why they think Bron won't dominate in the damn 90s. KD won't dominate. Man, please. KD is dominating in the 90s. Bron is dominating in the 90s. How you stop KD? You know what's funny?

15:56Shannon Sharpe:I'm just trying to figure out how you stop him. The guy's seven foot tall and he's shooting the ball at the apex, so how you stop that?

16:03Chad Johnson:Man, what? You're not. And here we talk about the 90s too now, Joe. You know, there's maybe there's a select few players from the 90s that could, whose game translate to this era too now. Yeah. Yeah. It'll be some guys getting money out there. Oh yeah, for sure.

16:21Shannon Sharpe:Well, Joe, you said he can get it done. I'm gonna take your word for it. You the NBA aficionado. You think he can still get that even with the rule?

16:30Chad Johnson:But yeah, I think he would. He just, look, it's hard to even keep him in front of you. You know what I mean? That's what I go off of. Like, when you talk about guys who play in isolation, guys who, man, look, I ain't even studying the dude who guard me. I'm just worried about your damn help, where the help going to come from, because I know I'm going to blow your doze off. It's over with. I'm getting by you, period, point blank. And I think that's how Shea thinks. And when you watch him play, man, can't nobody stay in front of that man.

16:58Shannon Sharpe:Well, I know he ain't going to have that number when he played Detroit and the Knicks. because you go down the line the first time, he ain't coming back down there no more. He gonna be on his head. Oh, yeah.

17:10Chad Johnson:Oh, yeah, now they ain't play now.

17:12Shannon Sharpe:Like I said, you go down the line, you play the nicks in Detroit.

17:18Chad Johnson:But, okay, Ocho, them fouls, they like that in the 90s, that shit are flagrant. You getting kicked out the game nowadays. No, but he in the 90s. Ain't no flagrant. Oh, yeah, but I'm just saying. Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah. No, no, no.

17:29Shannon Sharpe:But you gotta think about it, Ocho. Man, they ain't called no flagrant fire when that man snatched Kurt Rambis' ass out the air. When Kevin McHale snatched his ass out the air.

17:39Chad Johnson:Oh, yeah. You gonna taste the...

17:41Shannon Sharpe:Who that went up? Larry Bird went up, and then Bill Lambert four-armed him in the face. And Larry just went to wailing on him on the ground.

17:50Chad Johnson:Yeah. Nah, nah, nah, nah. There was some different type of fouling back then, boy. They proving a point. You think you finna come in and just go 10 in a row to it? Shit.

17:59Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, they rarely threw somebody out of the game for fight. Rarely. Rarely. Let's take a listen to the third one.

18:17What's up, Nightcap fam? Ash and staff? Oh, Joe Superfreak. And I saw Joe, the one and only. If you met another, he's so funny. What's up, Unc? I know you got some contacts over at the Laker organization. Get the word to DeAndre Ayton. Tell her brother, go ahead and get his CDLs, man. It's over. He can be the best truck driver up and down the 101. He can rock that chain all day, every day. Love y 'all.

18:55Shannon Sharpe:That's crazy. God.

18:59Chad Johnson:Hey. Hey, boy, these people don't play nowadays. Boy, they don't miss nothing. That man get a CDL. That man get a commercial stroke driver's license. Ah!

19:10Shannon Sharpe:Shout out to my daughter, Leela, on her server.

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23:20Shannon Sharpe:Birthday tomorrow, May 18th. Third birthday I missed. Daddy misses and love you. I won't stop fighting. Timothy, well, happy birthday, Lila. It's the seventh birthday, May 18th. I don't know what's going on, so I can't comment on that. But we want to wish you a happy birthday. And, bro, you say you miss, you love her, and don't stop fighting? Don't stop. Make sure – There you go. Don't miss the four. Can't do nothing about the three that you've missed, but make sure you don't miss the four. Hello. The almighty Joakim Noah, what's so good about Cleveland?

23:56Shannon Sharpe:I guess they go into the – they go into the Eastern Conference Finals. What's Cleveland known for? What's Cleveland's dish? What are they known for?

24:07Chad Johnson:I don't even know.

24:08Shannon Sharpe:Cleveland, what y 'all known for? Anybody from Cleveland see the chat?

24:16That's a good question.

24:18Chad Johnson:It is. Hey, Cleveland has always been good to me anytime I went there, man. They got a casino in Cleveland.

24:26Shannon Sharpe:Oh, they got pierogi. What they got? Pierogi is Polish food. So they, oh, no, I already know they don't like it. I done gone this long, 58 years, they never had no pierogi. Yeah, I ain't missing nothing. What else they got? Oh, come on.

24:50Corned beef and pierogies?

24:54Chad Johnson:Hey, what happened to Ojo?

24:56Shannon Sharpe:I'm right here. Oh, shoot. The only time the Pistons got a lead was a three-pointer 46 seconds into the game. That's it, man. It was, look.

25:08Chad Johnson:By Jenkins.

25:09Shannon Sharpe:Yep. I think, look, they picked the worst night to have their worst game.

25:15Chad Johnson:Man.

25:16Shannon Sharpe:And this was for all the marbles to advance.

25:22Shannon Sharpe:And Cleveland played its best game, Joe. One team played their best. The other team, they got four guys that scored at least 20. And Sean, the only one that was under 50 % from the floor was Donovan. But Donovan didn't have any turnovers. He had eight rebounds, seven assists.

25:40Chad Johnson:Yeah, I think James was under 50%.

25:42Shannon Sharpe:He was one of the four guys that had 20 points.

25:45Chad Johnson:Right, right. Hey, look, I think with the Pistons, hell, they played 14 games in two series, two game sevens. they look beat up and low down to me fellas in that game I'm going to be honest with you so yeah

26:00Shannon Sharpe:Jared Allen had 23 he was 8 of 14 Evan Mobile had 21 he was 7 of 10 Donna had 26 he was 10 of 22 and Merrill had 23 he was 7 of 10 so yeah shout out to the land next stop New York and Sam Merrill had, 50 count tonight, and couldn't miss from three. Hey, he picked the right time to have his best game of the series. You know, Scrooge, one of the games, oh, what was that, game five, Joe? Scrooge, he came off the bench, knocked down, boom, boom, boom. Now what happened? Game seven, Merrill comes off the bench. Boom, boom, boom.

26:42Chad Johnson:Going crazy. Hey, after he took that charge and got plowed over, Murrow he started knocking down shots yeah uh

26:54Shannon Sharpe:Tokyo-ish Ocho he's on a heater man Ocho got a couple right man

26:59Chad Johnson:oh man he all go trying to discredit my ball knowledge man who is y 'all I ain't even said nothing bro okay well I'm trying to discredit my ball knowledge listen it's just I'm catching up man that's all that matter by the time we get to next year and it's time to talk basketball I'm gonna take all the conversation and that's going to get real scary

27:23Shannon Sharpe:chat I know times are hard right now or tough right now and unfortunately I have terrible news the money printer that just knocked out of the playoff no more free dirt and under bets on prize pick until next season

27:43Shannon Sharpe:y 'all might think I'm delusional but the NBA young boy is the goal All I know, y 'all probably don't listen to his music, so give me a top five best Lil Wayne songs.

27:54Chad Johnson:Ooh.

28:01Damn.

28:01Chad Johnson:Best Lil Wayne song. It's too many, boy. Jesus. You got to go back to mixtape Lil Wayne, then talk about some of the albums he's dropped. That's something hard to go right off the top of the head in there. so it's so many bro i'm not too many top five top five anybody any rapper song man i don't listen to rap like that anymore cool he got a song this back this way back when called keisha oh yeah remember keisha what yeah yeah what'd you know about it hey that that's that's that's throwback boy yeah yeah that's bad i had a lot i think i was still in high I think I was still in high school here.

28:47Let me see if I can find that.

28:49Shannon Sharpe:Come on, bro. Look, I understand young boy is on top right now. He got it going on, but y 'all need to stop this. And look, in no more conversation, ain't nobody close to Mike. Joe, Ocho, you know I've been sending all them clips. Ain't nobody touching Mike.

29:05Chad Johnson:Yeah.

29:05Shannon Sharpe:Ain't nobody even close.

29:07Chad Johnson:I know, I know.

29:08Shannon Sharpe:Ain't nobody close. Close, not even close. close. I'm talking about that is the biggest gap between he and the next artist as opposed to anything. If you want to say, let's just say for the sake of argument, you say Jordan is the GOAT. If you say baseball, whoever your GOAT is in baseball, whoever your GOAT is in football, whoever your GOAT is in track and field, the gap between Michael Jackson and the next person is bigger than any gap in any other two.

29:38Chad Johnson:I doubt you even though even though Drake, I think Drake tied him for the most number ones. Drake don't move the crowd like this man here. You saw them people. I know. I mean, I get that people fainting and all kinds of stuff.

29:53Shannon Sharpe:It's different. You got to realize when Micah was doing this, it might have been four billion people. There's another four billion people in the world, Nigel. Hey, guess what? We going to look up 30 years from now, there's going to be 10, 12 billion people in the world. You're like, hey, somebody bigger than it. Somebody got more poor than Drake.

30:10Chad Johnson:Damn.

30:12Shannon Sharpe:And his videos? Man, do they even do videos anymore, Ocho?

30:17Chad Johnson:You know what? It wasn't, they wasn't just regular videos, they were stories. They like, you know, it's like led up to mini movies almost. You know what I mean? Cause boy, that one where he had that white suit on and when he did that lean on that joint.

30:32Shannon Sharpe:Hey Joe. I can watch that whole joint. People don't realize like Michael, Michael could really, really sing. Go back and listen to when he's singing the Earth Soul. Man. Yeah. Hey Joe. What's up? Well, you took me back in time, boy. I had to crank up that goddamn Keisha, the Hot Boys. Oh, did you? And I had to go back. Well, you go back. Hey, good memories, boy. Woo! Good memories. Hey, you right though.

31:05Chad Johnson:MJ a bad boy.

31:06Shannon Sharpe:See, y 'all looking at Grammys. Somebody won Grammys, this guy got more Grammys. You tell me the person that has a bigger impact in music than Michael Jackson.

31:22Chad Johnson:It ain't one, you know why? Not only was he cold, but hell, Michael Jackson thought he was a mini gangster. He thought he was a little gangster. You look at all his videos, because he have all them old gangsters and mob guys in there. Man, this used to be hard. i don't i don't think i don't think people today they don't want to they don't because they weren't up they they weren't around during those times to understand how big he was uh it's it's it's different there's levels to everything and the standard on impact and and cultural cultural difference that they've made not just here in the states but globally yeah mike is on a completely different level that that that doesn't take anything away from beyonce or Chris Brown or what Drake is doing.

32:06They're all real.

32:07Shannon Sharpe:There's levels to it. Levels, levels. Boy, look here. That glove. Who wore that glove? Drake just put on his ice, man. Who wore the glove?

32:17Chad Johnson:Yeah.

32:20Shannon Sharpe:Who's it dressing like? When you do Halloween, they still wear the red jacket. Yeah. They still wear the high water shoes with the white tube socks and the penny loafers.

32:30Chad Johnson:Yes, sir. They got a whole play out here about Michael Jackson.

32:38Shannon Sharpe:Like I said, if you didn't live through it, the 80s, in the early 90s, you have no idea. You have no idea. People spend money and would miss the concert because they passed out. Yeah. Yeah. Bad. Do you feel do you still feel like it's debatable if Kobe top 10 ever? It hurts so bad he's no longer here to defend himself. I would give anything to see you have to debate him face to face. Kobe wouldn't debate and there's nothing to defend because Kobe's already did what he did. You see that's the thing and we talk about this. Once you're done you can't add. So whatever place he's at, whatever you had him at, if you had him in the top five, he's got to stay.

33:36Shannon Sharpe:I mean, how does he go? How does he move up? If you had him at, I mean, a lot of people had him at 9, 10. How does he move up from there, Joe? Because the people that you had in front of him, they didn't get any more stats. He didn't add any more stats. So I'm just trying to figure out how. It's like what we talk about Ocho at the combine. Guy ain't playing the game in three months, and he's sliding up and down the draft board. How? What did he do from his last bowl game between the time then and combine? So he played his last bowl game in January. The combine is in late February, so he ain't did nothing.

34:17Shannon Sharpe:In six weeks, some guys ended the season way before that. So some guys ain't did anything in two months. And you say, well, he's moving up the draft boards. Doing what?

34:27Chad Johnson:Right. Mm-hmm. The only thing I said, Kobe is great, historically great.

34:35Shannon Sharpe:But y 'all need to go back and get some of these YouTube videos when people were talking about Kobe when he was playing. And they don't speak about Kobe in the glowing terms that they do now. That's all I've ever said. I remember, Joe, do you remember when he had that 3-1 lead? And to prove a point, he wouldn't shoot the ball and they lost it? Yeah, yeah.

35:02Shannon Sharpe:that's all I've ever said is that people's folks speak differently about Kobe now because of the tragic passing. They didn't speak about him in the glowing terms. And I use the example of Dr. King. I use the example of, uh, Muhammad Ali. Now I'm not saying he's those type because they, they, they're, uh, uh, uh, on a platform because of what they did for the entire, you know, they tried to make the world a better place, but especially for the underserved. That's it. And y 'all know it. Go back and pull the, it's on YouTube. And look at some of the analysts that speak so glowing about him now that didn't speak in those same terms.

35:44Shannon Sharpe:That's it.

35:48Shannon Sharpe:But I don't know how Kobe, I don't know how you move him up. How does he move up? So who drops up? So let's just say when Kobe last game, you had Kobe in the top 10. You had him at 8-9. So who did he surpass? He hadn't made another game-winning shot. He hadn't won another championship, another MVP, another finals MVP. So my question is, so who did he pass?

36:21Chad Johnson:No,

36:23Shannon Sharpe:but Kobe, look. I met Kobe I saw him at an event I think the event was for Quincy Jones if I'm not mistaken and you talk to him for just a little while and you see how he's wired and you see because I'm talking to him I'm like bro you don't you don't even look like you seem like you miss it he said I don't he said I gave that game everything he said I got a new focus and a new passion. And I give this game everything. And he, the movies. That's it. And that's what, that's how you become really good at two things, Ocho, Joe. Is that you take that same unbridled passion and discipline and dedication, I guarantee you, to get into the movies and to write scripts and to do all the stuff he was doing, he had that same burning desire.

37:24Shannon Sharpe:Man. It's hard to try to be good. It's hard to be good at, to be great at one thing. It says, you know what? This really ain't what I do. So I'm okay being average.

37:33Chad Johnson:It didn't work like that. Yeah, I know.

37:36Shannon Sharpe:It won't ever. You look at Michael Jordan. He great in basketball and what he do in NASCAR? He said, nah, y 'all gonna put this thing on the level playing field. I'm tired of y 'all beating my damn eyes out.

37:50Shannon Sharpe:He's going fishing. What'd he do? Bought that big ass boat. He said, no, this thing going to be fair.

37:56Chad Johnson:Yeah.

37:56Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Y 'all just think because I was a great basketball player. No, I'm going to be a great at everything I do. And guess what? I got that same passion. I'm going to find the best players. I might not be able to pull this big-ass fish in. But guess what? I'm going to find some mofos that can. I can't drive. I can't get my big ass in this little car. But guess what? Tyler Reddick, do your thing.

38:18Chad Johnson:That Jordan Brand, bro.

38:20Shannon Sharpe:And so it's hard. magic. Look at magic. Everything. You can't. It's hard. I don't know anybody that cares, Ojojo, that was great at one thing and said, I'm going to do something else and say, nah, I'm cool. Hey, if I don't win, I'm cool. If I don't do...

38:40Chad Johnson:Think about it, bro. Think about Jordan, though. He took that from basketball to damn golf to NASCAR. Hell, at one point, I know he was racing motorcycles, huh?

38:52Shannon Sharpe:They said, man, Jordan riding through the city. Jordan, he told a story that when he first, he didn't have no gloves, he didn't have no helmet or nothing. He said, the biker boys in Chicago said, man, at least get a helmet and some gloves. Yeah. You probably shouldn't be doing this, but if you're going to do it, at least get a helmet and some gloves. Yeah. Man, can you go riding a motorcycle in Chicago at 100, 120, 130? Oh, Joe, Joe.

39:19Chad Johnson:Yeah, I'm wrong.

39:20Shannon Sharpe:Do you know how fast a hundred plus miles an hour is on a motorcycle? On a bike? Yeah. Ooh! I'm sure you know I got me a bike, bro. I don't even play like that, bro.

39:32Chad Johnson:What kind of bike you got, Ocho? I ain't got nothing but a Honda. I ain't got nothing but a Honda, bro. I ain't doing nothing crazy. Yeah, me neither. I got a Triumph. I got a Scramble, a Triumph, and I'm cruising. I don't get nowhere near the 100. No. Joe, I might hit 70, 80 miles per hour every blue moon. Hey, hey, and I stay my ass off the freeway. I'm taking all the streets. All the streets.

40:02Shannon Sharpe:You need to get a group, Ocho. I mean, Joe, you need to get a group to ride with a group, so a bigger y 'all. Because you know what we going to do? I'm the boys, man. They take the whole street. They take the whole intersection.

40:13Chad Johnson:Well, then, what me, you, Ocho, going to do? We going to start us a group? No, we not. What you mean? You ain't going to ride with us?

40:20Shannon Sharpe:They call it asphalt. It's your ass and it's your fault. I want no part of that. We ain't going to be doing that crazy. We just going to be crude. Motorcycles. You know what the people that ride motorcycles are called? Oregon donors. They love y 'all. They love to see y 'all on them bikes. I want no part of no bike. Hey, Joe, you know what I want, Joe? I want a Harley bagger or a Harley street glider, one of them.

40:47Chad Johnson:Oh, no. I don't want them big hips. That's why I wanted to triumph. Ocho, I used to have a couple Harleys. I got rid of them. I wanted to triumph. I want something I can control, handle them Harleys. I want to put that 30-inch wheel on the front, Joe, and be riding through 40 miles an hour. Frankie Beverly and Mays playing. Okay. Isaac Hayes. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Temptations. I got you. I got you. Hey, I want to go to Daytona. Who all got bite week? They totally got one.

41:18Shannon Sharpe:South Dakota got a black. Myrtle Beach got one. South Dakota. Daytona got one. Those are the three biggest. Yeah, I want to hit them three bike events. They're huge.

41:32Chad Johnson:Yeah, I got something for you. I got something you can ride. I got a nice tri.

41:36Shannon Sharpe:I ride my car. I follow y 'all.

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46:53Shannon Sharpe:Myla and Carla. Detroit needs some shooters, and Thompson got to work on scoring. No, he got to work on shooting. He do. It's a bad.

47:03Chad Johnson:You see how they were guarding him? Hey, look. He caught the ball at the three-point line. His man barely left the paint. He just looked at him and turned around. Yeah. they didn't even draw iron damn damn

47:17Shannon Sharpe:GG and Dosis victory today with my mother Tina aka Queen Tina's 65th birthday she's a cancer survivor and the strongest woman I know can y 'all shout her out please absolutely Queen Tina shout out Miss Tina happy 65th hey kick cancer's hands we love that we want to be strong we want to fight we want to continue to fight and you know what son is proud of you. Say you're the strongest woman he knows. Hey, because you kick Cass's ass, we can't disagree. Happy 65th. Hey guys, great show. I know Uncle's Larry Bird fan. If you had to make a starting five with all Celtics players, who would you pick?

47:59Shannon Sharpe:Bird?

48:04Shannon Sharpe:Russell? Bird? Ooh.

48:18Russell Bird

48:20Chad Johnson:I'm thinking

48:21Shannon Sharpe:Paul Pierce yeah Rondo at the punt Russell Bird

48:37Chad Johnson:then you're probably gonna go

48:39Shannon Sharpe:I do Kevin McHale you know and people like well why you start Havlicek Havlicek came off the bench so he'll be good coming off the bench

48:51Shannon Sharpe:but they got hey you think about it they got Havlicek they got Dave Cowens who won the MVP they got Casey Jones Sam Jones they got a squad Tom Heisen

49:06Shannon Sharpe:Dennis Johnson Nate Archibald

49:10Chad Johnson:they got some guys hey when I got drafted there Uncle Ocho I'm trying to get me a little small number here all them damn numbers retired from zero through I had to get number 31 I had to act like I you know I was a huge Reggie Miller fan I'm like shit I guess I rode with this 31 I ain't never won no damn 31

49:31Shannon Sharpe:Hey, I'm gonna get, you know, I need Jason Tatum to give me a couple of more years. Y 'all gotta realize, y 'all make it seem like the guys that I put in there, some bums.

49:42Chad Johnson:Oh, nah, they was some dogs, boy. What?

49:45Shannon Sharpe:Havlicek, eight and no in the NBA Finals. Russell, 11 and one in the NBA Finals. Bird got three consecutive MVPs, two finals MVPs.

49:55Chad Johnson:I'm probably gonna go KG over McHale.

49:57Shannon Sharpe:You think KG over McHale?

49:59Chad Johnson:I probably would, yeah.

50:02Shannon Sharpe:Man, KG ain't played but two years, three years at Joe Dayo.

50:06Chad Johnson:I know. He was a monster, though. Okay, Ocho. He was defensive player of the year. That year, they had the best defense. He should have left. He was five years too late.

50:15Shannon Sharpe:He should have been. And a problem, you ask him, Joe, you ask him honestly, he'd say, yeah, I probably should have left earlier.

50:21Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah. He probably could have got at least two, three rings, hell, if he had he left early.

50:27Shannon Sharpe:Yep, I agree

50:32Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, if you bet during these playoffs you would be a rich man, gotta give it to you we would just call it, but get us luck but Detroit played like ish, they did and when you play like ish and the other team plays really well you're going home and you're going home sad what makes it so sad guys this happened in your building. See, Ochoa, we talked about in football. That's why I like to play the game on the road. See, if you lose, okay. But just think about it. You got 20 ,000 fans and you.

51:09Chad Johnson:And their pressure just mounts, boy.

51:12Shannon Sharpe:Once you get down 10, 15, you see F8, 10, okay. We cut it to eight. Go back to 14. We cut it to nine. 20, 25. Oh, Lord, it's over. it's over bang it's over TS Carwatch detail service ISO been wrong all playoffs Jalen Durant was basically a mannequin in the playoffs he was

51:40Chad Johnson:yeah you're right he really had two good games

51:45Shannon Sharpe:in the playoffs in 14 games

51:48Chad Johnson:game 6 game 7

51:52Shannon Sharpe:against Orlando.

51:54Chad Johnson:Yeah. You're right. You're right. Hey, hey, hey. I fess up. I told you, I've been picking with my heart. I've been picking. You know, I'm riding to the wheels, fall off with them Hawks. You know, obviously, we were a bit disappointed, but damn. I expected Detroit to do something.

52:15Shannon Sharpe:Shout out to all the real nightcap. Tell Amazon to get a new name. Love the show.

52:23Chad Johnson:Hey, I'll be checking right there. That's all they talking about. Nightcap after the show home thing is.

52:27Shannon Sharpe:We ain't coming home, but it ain't y 'all. But when you Google it, they know, hey Google know who the real nightcap is. Right, right. We pop up first. Absolutely. I'm gonna need Ocho to stop saying he don't know basketball because he knows what he's talking about. Nah, we'll leave it like that.

52:47Chad Johnson:Right. Look at.

52:50Shannon Sharpe:Oh Joe, what are you talking about? You picked the Wolves versus the Spurs. You picked the Nuggets versus the Timberwolves after game one. How you letting him say this? Man, let the man have his moment, man.

53:05Chad Johnson:Hey. Yeah, the man, listen, listen. The man don't win in much hell. I mean, you know, hey man, let the man shine a little bit. Hey, y 'all don't be mad y 'all ball knowledge ain't like mine. That ain't my fault. That ain't my fault. You keep, you keep, hey Joe, you keep studying the game. Uncle, you keep studying the game. One day y 'all will get where I'm at.

53:26Shannon Sharpe:Uncle, I need you to acknowledge that MJ is the all-time leader in assists, steals, and total rebounds. In what? At the Bulls.

53:41Chad Johnson:MJ is? For the Bulls here? I mean,

53:45Shannon Sharpe:I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised in points. obviously. I'm not surprised in steals, obviously. No, because he had a what? 84, 85, 86. So he had like a three-year head start on Pip, so I'm not surprised by that. I am surprised in rebounds.

54:08Chad Johnson:In the assists?

54:09Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. But you gotta realize, in the triangle offense, the point guard, I mean, it's ball moving, so you really ain't nobody averaging you know double figures in assists if you look at the way a triangle offense you might have a couple of guys with around 4, 5, 6

54:32Chad Johnson:yeah I think that was but before Phil was there he was a one man show oh he was getting major before Phil got there before Phil got there it was get a ball to MJ get your ass out of the way

54:45Shannon Sharpe:with Kevin Lockery. I think Kevin Lockery might have been his first head coach. Then he had Doug Collins.

54:52Chad Johnson:Doug, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

54:57Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, but I mean, like I said, I'm surprised about the rebounds, but I'm trying to think. Rodman only played three years. I'm trying to think what big that they had that played a number of years. I don't think Artis Gilmore. I think Artis Gilmore was probably on his last leg. Dave Corzine, Weddington, Bill Cartwright, They didn't really play long enough. Nah. But we know Jordan. Jordan was that guy. Yeah. Cameron Thompson. Ja Ant. Jane Rui. PJ. Miles Turner. Wolves Knee. What? He said they need to put Ja Ant-Man. Jane Rui. And Miles Turner.

55:41Chad Johnson:They need to go get Rui?

55:42Shannon Sharpe:yeah yeah Rui gonna make some money Rui shot 57 % from the three

55:50Chad Johnson:I know but they ain't gonna be able to they ain't gonna be able to get Rui here you got McDaniels, Ant-Man I mean Rui gonna get paid too I don't know if the Lakers gonna be able to keep it I don't think they will be nope because they're not gonna be able to pay Rui and pay goddamn Austin Reeves

56:08Shannon Sharpe:Ocho we know how influential Uncle Luke is to hip hop how influential is he to Miami? How influential was Uncle Luke in your life if he was? Obviously, Uncle Luke at that time, he had a really good run with two live crew during those days, those early days. Obviously, Grandma kept me away from that kind of music, but I understood exactly what Uncle Luke meant to, not just myself, but for us down here in Miami. He is Miami. Right now, if I'm not mistaken, yeah i think yeah i think luke is running for congress if i'm not mistaken yeah we're running for a position in congress exactly what position that it is i'm not sure i see luke damn near every night at the cigar bar we go to the same cigar cigar bar right here in pembert pines call aficionado so i see i see him every night i mean luke i mean so you got luke obviously got trick You got JT Money.

57:12Shannon Sharpe:Ross. Ross. Yeah. Trina. Yeah.

57:18Chad Johnson:Yeah. But Luke started. Hey, everybody from right here.

57:20Shannon Sharpe:Hey, Luke had everybody in the uproar. Yeah. Because when two live crew came out with that cover, and them girls out there, they had to, hey, boy. Woo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo. Hey. Shake with your mama gay, yo. Come on, come on, come on.

57:43Chad Johnson:I remember them videos used to come on at the dark.

57:48Shannon Sharpe:Ocho King ISO and Mr. O, my goodness. What has been your favorite, your funniest moment? Mine has been the Haitian dude. And Ocho girlfriend mangled and tangled.

58:02Chad Johnson:Don't nut take that. Don't nut take that that way. Hey, you see what happened? See, I put myself in a vulnerable position. And, you know, a lot of people love to play life, Uncle Joe. Like everything is a win. Like they always on top of everything. Like they never took losses, you know. They ain't never been in vulnerable situations. I choose to be vulnerable. And y 'all take my vulnerability and choose to make jokes and laugh out of it. Nah, nah, nah. We ain't doing that, Ocho. You just said there's never been nothing funnier than that.

58:42Chad Johnson:It's the antics that Uncle was doing when he knew rabbit pain. You guys trying to put it off on me, Ocho.

58:49Shannon Sharpe:Hey, Chad, y 'all see how I sorta try to put that off on me? He just like, it's Ocho antics. Hey, but listen, hey, Joe. Every so time, you know, the rabbit got the gun, right? You know, because listen, he got me. I done got people and I done got got.

59:11Chad Johnson:There you go, that's it. That's the game. Yes. It is. It's been like that, you know? So, I mean - You win some, you lose some.

59:20Shannon Sharpe:You lose some.

59:21Chad Johnson:Hello. But you live. You live to fight another day.

59:26Shannon Sharpe:Oh yeah. Who's worse at taking accountability? A woman who knows she's wrong or an ISO. What?

59:36Chad Johnson:How I get at this? Hey, but hold up though. Boy, a woman ain't, hey. It's hard. It's hard to get a woman to fence up and say she was wrong. Yeah. Yeah, we know that. But I take accountability.

59:53Shannon Sharpe:Oh, have mercy. But I don't get, they want me to take accountability. But when I'm right, oh, we knew, everybody knew that.

1:00:05Shannon Sharpe:this was back in October I told him about the the Brown situation AJ oh you just making it up you don't know what's in that locker room you don't know in November now oh we been do that no you did that's not what y 'all said right nope sure ain't so y 'all want people to take accountability but y 'all won't take no accountability damn say hey when I'm wrong hey hey but I look at a pattern of behavior yeah I said think about this I said look at this the guy won the Super Bowl he caught a touchdown in the Super Bowl

1:00:57Shannon Sharpe:They were winning on their way to the way to the Super Bowl. Ocho, what was he doing on the sideline?

1:01:06Hey, what was the name of the book again?

1:01:08Shannon Sharpe:I don't care about being the last. How about somebody's ass when I don't catch a pass?

1:01:21Shannon Sharpe:That shit was hilarious. I think that's what it was. who y 'all got more confidence in Harden not crumpling in the postseason shooting his team in the foot or the Bengals winning the Super Bowl before the Ravens

1:01:35Chad Johnson:oh that ain't Bengals win no Super Bowl that ain't happening

1:01:38Shannon Sharpe:yeah that ain't happening

1:01:42Chad Johnson:let's be let's keep it 100 now let's be for real

1:01:46Shannon Sharpe:we won't be able to hear the end of that oh my goodness this man come over here playing mariachi music and all

1:01:54Chad Johnson:No, no, hell no. Man. Hey, it'll be the running of the boys. It'll be a parade.

1:01:59Shannon Sharpe:Ocho is a guy, you see how he acting? He got a couple of games wrong and now he wanna start the show. He wanna do - Oh, whoa, whoa. I got a couple of games wrong. I did a couple of games right. Okay, thank you. He got a couple of games right. So you see how he behaving? Boy, you let the - Joe, you ain't never seen that joke when the Bengals win. What I tell you - What I -

1:02:23Chad Johnson:Hey. I seen them on here crying when they lose.

1:02:27Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. And this I'm rooting against your team. I said, I don't want to against your team. I'm rooting against yours, though. I would hurt. I would hurt. Hey, Joe, that's how you know how much it mean to me, Joe. I was on this thing crying. Like, see, I've had many times on this show where I've been in a vulnerable state, Joe. You know, where I told a story about my girl when I was a freshman. I ain't had no been and dating no senior. You hear me?

1:02:53Chad Johnson:Yeah. I mean, the bank was lost, and I had my hopes up. I'm on here crying. Yeah. I mean, you know, all my relationships are lived out publicly because I don't have nothing, Joe. Yeah, yeah. I don't have nothing, you know? And it's just, you know, it's just sometimes I'm one of the few where I have no problem losing publicly. I have no problem, you know? but when I'm winning, I'm gonna win publicly too. Right, right, I got you. I'm human. I'm human. Understood, understood.

1:03:24Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, that's all. Hey, would you still give your daughter fried catfish, spaghetti, cornbread, and sweet tea in a foam cup, Nixon Five? Ocho, they started to study the big weddings, like 75, 80 % of the time, end in divorce. Oh, yeah, hey, you hear what you just said? Big weddings. They about aesthetics.

1:03:50Chad Johnson:And that's what I'm saying. They about the wedding. They not about marriage. There's a difference. You gotta be able to tell the difference between the two. Some people want a wedding. Some people want a marriage. The people that want weddings, big weddings, they worry about aesthetics. Yeah. It being beautiful. They don't understand what it entails to actually be married. And I'm the one that, listen, this is the right message just coming from the wrong goddamn message. But still, but still, you know, but marriage is hard.

1:04:23Shannon Sharpe:Hell yeah. Man. It's hard. I think people think you get married, everything, you're not gonna argue anymore, everything's gonna be okay. No, no, my thing is what I told my daughter, I said, why would you want this big expensive wedding? Why not take this money and put it toward the down payment on the house? Why not get a head start on life? Come on now. Talk your talk now. Oh man, he's been, bro, I'm just trying to be practical. Is that, yeah, I still help my kids out. They're grown, but they know if they need it, absolutely gotta have it. Okay. Yeah, I'm here. I'm here, I'm here. Okay, what have you done?

1:05:04Shannon Sharpe:You're exhausted, have you done this, you've done X, Y, and Z? Then I've tried everything. There you go. Hey, Unk and Joe, I'm willing to help anybody, Unk. Joe, my kids, people on the outside, you know, family. But if you're not trying, if you're not doing nothing, Joe.

1:05:23Chad Johnson:That's what I'm saying, bro. Uncle, if you're not doing nothing, if you're not even trying, you always got an excuse. This and that, I can't, I'm not doing nothing. Hey, I think that's the biggest thing for me. It's them damn excuses, bro. I can't deal with those damn excuses, man. I'm good. but I'm good.

1:05:43Shannon Sharpe:I mean, I like to think I gave you a head start. You got no college debt. You had no car payment. You had nothing. Just get a job. That's it. And for the most part, hell, I paid the first two years for your apartment. You ain't got no bills.

1:06:03Chad Johnson:Boy, listen.

1:06:04Shannon Sharpe:I can't deal with that. But you know, the thing is, they look, I got great kids. they haven't given me any problems. They're still respectful. I check in from time to time. They're mom, hey, what's going on? Because for the most part, they're like, okay, daddy going to help me. You know, a lot of times they won't help, but they don't want to hear me beat.

1:06:29Chad Johnson:Yeah. They know what's coming at you. Exactly.

1:06:32Shannon Sharpe:So they don't want to hear that. So they don't really tell me. So their mom will call me like, okay, you talked to such and such. Nah. Right. What's going on? well I was you ain't here for me okay right so when they could do what they finally do call I said that what I do let my grandma do so but but look I understand and uh you know it's tough it's tough you know I just say you got to be smart now I say if I'm working as hard you got to work just as hard as me now. You can't be working, I can't be the hardest worker and then helping support you. I need you. Come on now. And listen. And I know you're capable of doing it and we gonna put our heads together, we gonna figure this out.

1:07:23Shannon Sharpe:So, nah, nah, nah, you know, hey, my son needed some help this past summer. I took care of him. Because that's -

1:07:31Chad Johnson:Hey, but listen, help is one thing.

1:07:35Shannon Sharpe:Oh yeah, I say - If I rationalize with you,

1:07:39Chad Johnson:if I rationalize with you and you come to me and tell myself, you need a thousand dollars for Airbnb for spring break, I'm trying to talk you off this cliff, man, because that shit ain't worth it. I'm keeping it real. That ain't worth it, bro. And then the next week, you gonna need some more money because now you did, nah, hell no. Hell no.

1:08:01Shannon Sharpe:But I know if they call me, I say they done got desperate. They done got really desperate. But a lot of times, let me see, send me the bills. Send me. I'll let Shelly pay it. Cause you're not finna run no okey-doke on me.

1:08:19Chad Johnson:Oh man. Hey, that's a good one. I need to try that on.

1:08:23Shannon Sharpe:Hey, y 'all got$1 ,500 to bill. I'm talking about you need 15 ,000. Yes. Nah, send me the bill. And first, if you got a bill that much, damn. when was the last time you paid it? I'm surprised you still got a phone. I'm still, you got a house or a car. What the hell? But nah, they, they, I say, don't wait that thing get too far gone now, cause hell, if it get too far gone, ain't nothing I can do. Right. Hey, you know, we family, I know, I know, I could, you speaking of letting stuff, you know, get too far gone, grandma house. Hey, listen, we family, I can tell y 'all, God forgive me Grandma rest her soul Boy if she knew how far It's not my brother's fault He just didn't know The house Where my house where I grew up Was going up for auction May 15th It was going up for auction May 15th So the people had to get a hold of me Late Asked me how much the back taxes

1:09:33Chad Johnson:was on the household it had to be about no it ain't that much i would say hey my my mama passed in 2021 so it hadn't been paid give me a number

1:09:47Shannon Sharpe:give me well you ain't got here's the thing there's no state taxes so the property tax might be high a hundred thousand nah uncle had to pay 43 000 before may 15th that's it That's it. See, you know what, see what happens. See, that's why you can't talk to rich people. Hey Joe, you see what I'm talking about? I had to pay 43 ,000 in back taxes. He's talking about that's it. Joe, were you telling me if you own a house how much you got to pay in taxes?

1:10:14Chad Johnson:Shit. Hey, he know it's high. But hey, to catch you off guard like Ocho. Hey, caught me off, caught me completely off guard. So that's 43, that's 43 coming out. I'm out the blue.

1:10:28Shannon Sharpe:I got this bill. I got this bill. I got this bill. I got this bill. Damn. I ain't budget no 43.

1:10:36Chad Johnson:Right. Right. Yeah. And you know what make it even worse is I'm redoing grandma house right now. It ain't nothing but a shell. They working on it. You think I'm going to let that go? So I had no choice. But the, oh, absolutely not, man. Take this. Take this. I make it up in another area.

1:11:00Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah. But that's the thing. No, no, no, no. Hey, but see, that's the thing, though, Ocho. Then let that thing go. I'm surprised. I'm surprised knowing who you are. But see, the thing is, they thought it was him. See, if they know it was you, they let it go even further. Because, see, they got to get you in the final where you can't pay it. So then they come in and get it up off you. Yeah. His name on it. So they know that. Oh, he came for this. and had you not come in, they got a steal and end up selling the house for four, five, six, $700 ,000. Yup. Uh-uh, absolutely, absolutely.

1:11:35Chad Johnson:Well, enough just to get their money back.

1:11:37Shannon Sharpe:They won't get their money back, but they're gonna take a different problem. That's how they do you. I know they were mad too. They sure were when they found that you had sent that check in or the direct. Hey, went right down to the place. They called me, if they called me on a Monday, But when they got that cashier check on Tuesday, man, don't play in my grandma house Know how they do you

1:12:04Shannon Sharpe:Man I just bro why you let it get this far I Ain't even wanted I ain't even want to do that. I didn't want to do that Because it was no point to have an argument about it with no point of having a conversation and creating unnecessary Dialogue because it is with this and they got to get taken care of So they didn't send no bills to the house or nothing? Oh, I'm way out here yonder. I call my brother, check with him, makes everything good. Boy, you good? You need anything? Man, I'm good, man. I'm just working. Boom. That's the gist of everything. What about the mail, Chauncey? You know, Chauncey, you know taxes.

1:12:42Shannon Sharpe:I mean, even though there ain't no state taxes, they still property taxes in Florida.

1:12:47Chad Johnson:Yeah. hey don't worry about i i got i got it now i got it i want that one thing hey listen what'd you i am i am make sure y 'all come on down here man come on down here you know have a little barbecue

1:13:02Shannon Sharpe:it didn't let you that would be your it should have been in your name anyway it's when your grandma passed it should have been in your name because now you get to write it off well actually okay when your mama passed it should have been in your name you should have went got it in your name you probably should have started talking to her about that beforehand and put it in your name I would have probably got cussed out but I understand what you're saying you was paying the taxes on it anyway even when your mom was alive you was paying the taxes on it so you might as well write it off don't you I am I know you are now but I'm saying that's what you should have but I talked to you offline how the best way to go about it to make sure this doesn't happen again and make sure nobody come in and get it from you.

1:13:48Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:13:53Shannon Sharpe:Kids are all at the game and you are out there running around with no draws. All right, so make sure Ocho got some layers on when y 'all play one-on-one. Oh, if he comes back to his head and ain't got a crystal burglary shape, you know, no more. We know why. Ocho, you too big for this, little man. I'm out there playing sports with no draws on. Hey, I mean, the football pants was like wearing tights.

1:14:25Chad Johnson:That's out of control.

1:14:26Shannon Sharpe:Oh, I know, but I had on what you call them up under there. Yeah. Nah, that's too much. That's too much restriction.

1:14:36Joe, why you laughing, Joe?

1:14:38Chad Johnson:I couldn't even imagine that, bro. I can't even imagine that.

1:14:43Shannon Sharpe:no you know i don't i don't know everything but what i try to do but what i do know and what i've been exposed to i try to expose others to that that so they don't get in that situation and so that's what i try to do see the problem is with y 'all y 'all think y 'all know everything and hadn't been exposed to anything and you don't know right you do realize that once you become in a certain tax bracket and you meet certain people certain people turn you on to certain things that i think this is the way you should do it. You look into it and say, okay, you ask your people. Okay, fine. Or you get people that say, well, hey, this is what you need to do.

1:15:18Shannon Sharpe:You need to handle it like this. So therefore, if X, Y, and Z happen, there are protocols, there are steps. Yes! Because if something happened to me, I want it. Hey, ain't no discussion. Okay? This is where this goes. This is where that goes. This is where this goes. It's already settled. That's the way you do it. Yeah. And it's so many loopholes too. I know about most of the loopholes. That one I didn't know about because I wasn't aware what was going on. But as far as other things going on in life, so many loopholes when you know the right people in the way they do things.

1:15:59Shannon Sharpe:Halliburton was injured. He was cooking OKC. Let's stop that. Look, the thing is, I thought they did a very good job of neutral because I don't think Shea had the best series last year, guys. They won. It would have been very interesting if Halliburton could have stayed healthy. We'll never know. We'll never, never know. But do I expect Shea to – I mean, he could. He could. And they didn't really need to average 30 like he normally does during the regular season against the Lakers. they might need them to pick it up a little bit against San Antonio because they have an offense and they're a lot better defensively so it's going to be very interesting to see how that how this thing plays out I'm excited to see well we'll get we'll get an early they play Tuesday

1:16:55Chad Johnson:they play tomorrow

1:16:56Shannon Sharpe:oh yeah they play tomorrow the Knicks play Tuesday right so we'll see how this thing plays out it's going to be a good what time the game come on Wait, who play tomorrow, Joe? San Antonio and LKC. Damn, already? Yeah. They didn't get them boys no time to rest.

1:17:14Chad Johnson:They have had rest. The Spurs? Yeah.

1:17:19Shannon Sharpe:They just played two days ago. They played Thursday. They played Friday night, Joe. So you had Saturday night, Sunday night. You back at it Monday. Think about Cleveland. Cleveland only going to get Monday off. They play Sunday. Tuesday. Tuesday, my bad, yes. Boy, these days be coming. Hell, I'm confused. I need to get me some days off. Ocho, ISO start, bench cut. Damn. Shockey, Dallas Clark, Crumpler.

1:17:55Shockey, Dallas Clark, Crumpler.

1:17:59Shannon Sharpe:Oh, man. Ocho, you got Chris Chambers, Santona Moss, Dwayne Bowe ISO you got Rip Hamilton K-Mart Jason Williams

1:18:11Chad Johnson:Which Jason Williams? White Chocolate

1:18:14Shannon Sharpe:Nah I think he mean the other Jason Williams that was in Phoenix Wasn't he in Phoenix or Golden State? Jason Williams Richardson

1:18:22Chad Johnson:You talking about Jason Richardson? That's who you talking about? Yeah

1:18:30Chad Johnson:Yeah Jason Richardson played in Phoenix and Golden State played in Orlando. Actually, we in the same draft. We was in the same draft class, 2001.

1:18:40Shannon Sharpe:Okay.

1:18:41Chad Johnson:Yeah, he went five, I went 10.

1:18:42Shannon Sharpe:All right, I'm gonna take, okay, who I'm gonna start?

1:18:49Shannon Sharpe:What is tough?

1:18:53Shannon Sharpe:Man, Shockey had some years. Shockey got out the gate strong.

1:19:02Shannon Sharpe:I think I would start.

1:19:08Shannon Sharpe:I'ma start Shockey. I'm a bench crumpler. I'm cutting Dallas Clark.

1:19:15Chad Johnson:Mm, damn.

1:19:17Shannon Sharpe:Damn. Gotta cut somebody. Take care of somebody. Who you got, Ojo? Chris Tabers, Santana Moss, Dwayne both. Oh man. That's easy. You know what that is? Starts at Taylor, Ben Chambers, cut both. Man, you can't cut my dog like that, man. Ooh. Man, that man had one season though, Joe, you know it. Hey, hey, Chris Chambers was a monster in Miami, boy. Hold on, didn't he play? He was a monster. He played at the Chargers too, though, didn't he? They play at the Chargers too, but I remember all of them. One hand it catches, we were the Dolphin, but Tanner Mann definitely started though.

1:20:06Shannon Sharpe:Joe, what you got, Joe? You did yours already? Kenya Martin, Jason Richardson.

1:20:12Chad Johnson:I'm gonna start Kenya, bench rip.

1:20:15Shannon Sharpe:Damn, you cut your class.

1:20:17Chad Johnson:And that's my, hey, Jay Rich my dog. I can't tell. I got the, well I got the, damn,

1:20:23Shannon Sharpe:okay i gotta cut some damn body here oh yo me and you uh uh uh ice or dog boy ain't no telling what's gonna happen to us

1:20:39Shannon Sharpe:uh jenna what shirt uh that is you wearing

1:20:45Chad Johnson:they don't know about that school days that school days wake up What's up? I got snuck into the movie theater to see that. That was a good movie, boy. School days. That was a good day. Hey, hey, hey, Unc and Joe, on Netflix, y 'all seen, it's called Nemesis. I know Buck was telling me about it. I haven't seen it. It's good? Hey, hey, hey, Unc and Joe, you got to see it. You got to see it. I started watching it. It's funny, Ochoa, I started watching it last night. It ended up starting to watch me here. It was watching me before I knew it. I like it. I'm about to check it out. I like it. Buck was telling me about it.

1:21:21Shannon Sharpe:He said, man, you're going to have to get that. You're going to have to get that. You're going to have to watch it. It's real nice. Chat, if you haven't seen Nemesis on Netflix, go check it out. Cavs first final script is Troy Polamalu at top 20 DB all time. Nightcap, love y 'all. Thank God. Top safety, yes. Yes. Who asked that? He's talking about overall when you combine safety and corners, and I still think he's a top 20. Why would you even combine both? He's the top three safety all time. He absolutely is.

1:21:57Shannon Sharpe:Me personally, I got Ed Reed, Ronnie, Troy. But hey. Yeah. People don't realize, Ronnie started out as a corner. Who, Ronnie Harrison? Oh, he did? At that size?

1:22:13Chad Johnson:Yes.

1:22:17Shannon Sharpe:he can run I think Ronnie had Ronnie had like

1:22:25Shannon Sharpe:yeah I think Ronnie had like 8 picks yeah Ronnie was Ronnie started as a corner hey Ronnie he went to USC too all them Marcus Allen Dennis Smith Anthony Munoz all them Ross Brown all of them yes you know hey you know who was the DB what you call him Jeff Fisher what you talking about the head coach Jeff Fisher from the Titans he was that team too yep what position Jeff played oh hell nah he was good he was okay he was hey think about it Dennis went because that year Dennis went first round

1:23:14Shannon Sharpe:Rodney went first round hell I think

1:23:24what year

1:23:25Shannon Sharpe:I think Munoz came out in 80 though I think they were like they were like freshmen freshmen or sophomores when Munoz was a senior

1:23:37Shannon Sharpe:but they got a squad They had a squad. Charles White. Charles White won the Heisman. Because Ronnie was the fullback. Charles White, Lynn Cain, and Marcus Allen was the backfield. They were in the backfield. So, Charles went to Heisman in 79. And then Marcus wins it in 81. Yeah. So Ronnie was a fullback. But Ronnie, not Ronnie, Marcus was a quarterback coming into college. He went to the same high school, TD and Reggie Bush and Alex Smith went to the same. Alex Smith and Reggie was on the same team in high school.

1:24:36Shannon Sharpe:So I guess they were pretty good. Corey Johnson, man, y 'all the whole other league with these AMGs and whatnot. I just ride on what my 2021 F-250. Man, I ain't got nothing new, bro. My car's 70, 13 years old. I ain't got like Ocho and Joe.

1:24:57Chad Johnson:Nah, I'm in a 2022, 2021. Hold on. I didn't mention anything about getting nothing new. I said I was trying to get something for someone else. Man, we just seen you bought a$700 ,000 deal. Yeah, you got a McLaren. What you talking? That was last year.

1:25:15Shannon Sharpe:Oh, man. You talking about this year? Now people see what Sixers fans been saying about Tobias Harris. Zero field goals made when it matter. You ain't lying. You ain't lying. To me, the Cavs big got to outplay Cat, OG, and Robinson. and Harden and Mitchell got to get 50 and manageable turnovers. If they can do that, they got a good chance. Yeah, but I think defensively, I think the Knicks might be better than Detroit, Joe, because you look at their wing. Do you really? I'm looking at, because here's the thing. The wing, yeah. You look at, the question is, OG, how soon to get back? But I think Mikael Bridges will probably start on Donovan, or do you think Hart starts on Donovan and Mikael starts on Hart.

1:26:05Chad Johnson:I don't know. I think Hart going to have to guard Mobley. You think so? Who else they going to put on them? You got Bridges, Hart, Brunson.

1:26:17Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, and I guess the other guy that started for OG. But he a guard.

1:26:23Chad Johnson:Yeah, so you going to have to put Hart on Mobley.

1:26:26Shannon Sharpe:Well, if that's the case, man, Mobley should average 30 and 10.

1:26:32Chad Johnson:I mean, I ain't going to go there, but I think he should be at least 22 and about 12. I'm saying in order for them to compete and really be in this series and have a chance to win, I agree. They bigs got to outplay Cat and Robinson, and I think they can do that. Yeah, they can do that.

1:26:50Shannon Sharpe:You're talking about who Bronson's going to guard. Probably Struess or Merle or Wade. Yep. Somebody that's really – I mean, looking to shoot the ball, they're not gonna post him up.

1:27:05Chad Johnson:Boy, they gonna have hell on they hands though. I'm talking about the Cavs and guarding Brunson. If you guarding him with Merle or Wade, oh man, that man for nothing.

1:27:14Shannon Sharpe:He ready to go crazy? Ocho, would you box Francis Ngannou for the Bengals to win the Super Bowl? Yeah, what you mean without boxing, man?

1:27:27Chad Johnson:Get his ass whooped out there. Messed that man. That man put his pants on one leg at a time, just like me, man. What are we talking about? Yeah, but his pants don't fit Mickey Mouse. It don't matter. It don't matter how they fit. He put his on the same way I do. You called out there. I'm a factor. And you know who - Me and Joe gonna be there to cheer y 'all. Me and Joe gonna be there to cheer y 'all. Yeah, yeah. I hope so. And what would James Harrison ass at? Cause I'm still waiting. I'm gonna slap him as soon as I see him on site. Hey man, just keep that man name out your mouth. Oh, Joe, hi, son.

1:28:00Shannon Sharpe:Are we for Saturday, July 11th, World Cup quarterfinals doubleheader into McGregor Holloway. This summer will be fun. Hey, boy, Dana announced that. Hey, let's go now. You want to go to the fight? Come on. What? If there's one fight we need to be at, you know it's that one. Yeah, all right. We're done. We know it's that one. Hey, tell Dana, I got him. Hey, I got him.

1:28:26Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah, I'm going to go. Hey, I got my outfit already picked out, boy. Yeah? Yeah, Joe. Lay that leg when you were going to high school. It's already top to bottom. I'm wearing all black dickies, Joe. All black dickies with the crease. Okay.

1:28:42Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all see the promo commercial ESPN a few days ago advertising Cavs Knicks to play game one tonight. It aired just before game six. We saw it.

1:28:53Chad Johnson:I seen it too, but damn it, That ain't rigged, bro. Them boys got out play tonight. Yeah. Got their ass spanked. Like I said, they would.

1:29:02Shannon Sharpe:Give us what you ate for breakfast and dinner in your prime and when you were cut up. Oatmeal, egg whites, and then I would have protein shake. And then I would have lunch. I'd have eight ounces of chicken, turkey, or filet. with broccoli, green beans. Then I would have, go home, eat basically the same thing. So if I had red meat, if I had a filet for lunch, I'd have chicken for dinner. If I had chicken for lunch, I'd have turkey or red meat for dinner. And then I'd have another protein shake.

1:29:53Shannon Sharpe:That's why I said I can eat the same thing every day. I don't get bored eating. Big 3K, we get a juicy J on one day. Can we talk Magic City?

1:30:07Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, I mean, I've been trying to go to Magic. But, you know, Ocho scared.

1:30:14Magic who? Magic City?

1:30:16Chad Johnson:Yeah. Hey, Joe, I'm trying to see what the lemon pepper wings hitting on, Joe. I keep hearing it from everybody else. I just want to see. That's all. They like that. When you had the chance, you played. Hey, Joe, stop bringing that up, man, before you make me do something to you. You hear me?

1:30:36Shannon Sharpe:For at least one night during the finals, kid, we need glove and bread on at the same time.

1:30:43Chad Johnson:Them boys are fools, ain't they?

1:30:49Shannon Sharpe:Thunder up, up. Drop 600 or take my son to his first Thunder game for a playoff game. SGA MVP, Nuff said, Thunder in five.

1:31:04Chad Johnson:Damn, Thunder in five.

1:31:09Man.

1:31:12Chad Johnson:It's going to be a good one. I can't wait.

1:31:17Shannon Sharpe:I think it's going to at least six, Joe. yeah yeah that concludes this episode of nightcap the cavaliers moved to the eastern conference finals to face the new york knicks thanks to a 31 point victory 125 to 94 jared allen had 21 evan mobley oh excuse me jared allen had 23 evan mobley had 21 donovan mitchell had 26 sam merrill had 23 off the bench on five of eight shooting from the three and they overwhelmed the Detroit Pistons. Nobody played particularly well. They didn't shoot well, and they definitely did not defend well. And their great season, 60 wins, the number one seed in the East was not enough.

1:31:59Shannon Sharpe:If they get sitting home, they go fishing. Y 'all know who I am. I'm your favorite. That's my partner and co-host, Liberty City's own Bingo Ring of Fame honoree, a former Pro Bowler and an All-Pro. That is Chad Ochocinco Johnson. And the third member of the Big Three, seven-time NBA All-Star from the Atlanta Hawks, Arkansas, University of Arkansas alum, that is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. And go subscribe to the Nightcap Podcast feed wherever you get your podcasts from. Thank you, guys. Thank you for your support and your continued support.

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