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22:38Shannon Sharpe:because they say it again hey hey right clifton powell on that one little episode that one little part was that was classic man when they had Michael Blackson Michael Blackson brought that CD back in there that thing had a whole chunk out of it he said man what happened to him I don't know give me my money.

23:07Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, nah. Oh, tell him to watch his mouth. He might get hit with as hard as God would let him go. Put, go put GA on the map then. Bad bitch, you could have a great time. I'ma see him, no, real talk. I think I'ma call the guy tomorrow and get Joe and I a ticket. Probably Jordan too, Jordan gotta go. I have to tag, I have to drag Jordan along. but no, man, bro, it was great. I mean, look, I understand what he said, but I didn't diminish him. I mean, you know, you could like, I mean, it's like some people like Kobe style. Some people like Jordan. Some people like Steph. And it's subjective. Yeah.

23:50Shannon Sharpe:It's subjective. It's what you like. I mean, I like, I like, I like, hey, I'm going to see somebody hit the floor. And I understand the objective is like, look, is the hit not get hit. but sometimes to make a fight entertaining, you got to dance. Yeah. You can't say that party was banging and you didn't even get on the dance floor. Yeah. But you know what the funny thing about it is? When you talk about liking some of the fighters from the old days that took chances, they had more action, they were willing to exchange, right? And you think about the fighters today that don't want to take those chances because there's a chance of them losing as opposed to, okay, my fans want me to take chances, but when I lose, that loss is on me.

24:28not on them because they want me to entertain them. But then I lose the fight. And now that, that, that, that loss is on my record, not the fans. So, I mean, I, I, I kind of get it. I kind of get both sides, especially when it comes to you who has watched some of the greats fight back in the eighties and nineties. And now today, we don't have fighters with that kind of power that is just laying people out. Tyson spoiled us. Right. Roy Jones spoiled us. Hagler Hearns, they spoiled us.

24:55Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. To where it's just, it's just not, it's just not like that anymore. You remember the Hulk, Aaron Pryor? Where did he come around? Man, from Cincinnati, man. Yeah, from Cincinnati Cyclone. What you talking about? Yeah. That joke, hey. You remember him joke? Well, Aaron Pryor was a real deal, man. Nah, I don't remember. You gotta watch him fight, Joe. Hey, Aaron Pryor, boy. He can go, man. You like the Hulk? What? That joke was relentless. Relentless. Aaron Pryor. Aw, man. Back then, and you know Sweet Pea? Sweet Pea have outfits. Sweet Pea, you know, had the head movement. He didn't really parent like Floyd, can you catch a punch and shoot?

25:32Shannon Sharpe:But, hey, as far as movement, but Sweet Pea had offense too, man. Oh, yeah. Sweet Pea, man. You go back, that 84 boxing team, Ocho, Joe, is the greatest boxing team ever assembled. It doesn't matter the country. It doesn't matter the year. That 84 U.S. team with Tyrell Biggs and Henry Tillman and Evander Holyfield, Sweet Pea Whitaker, Mark Breeland. They won like 13 gold medals. They won like 11 of them, Mocho. Damn. Think about it. You got 13. They won like 11. Go back and look at that 84 team. That is the greatest boxing team ever assembled. Some people say 76 with a – who was it? It was the Spinks Brothers.

26:21Shannon Sharpe:it was Sugar Ray because that was in Montreal and there was a Davis I think his last name is Davis but it couldn't match the depth of what and I understand Leon Spinks won the heavyweight title he took it from Ali and Michael Spinks was the heavyweight champion and we know Sugar Ray and Howard Davis I think it's Howard y 'all can look that up for me I think it was Howard Davis on that 70-16 the Spinks brothers Howard Davis and Sugar Ray but that That 84 team? Oh, my God. Nah, uh-uh. Go look at – hey, somebody say, nah, that 76 team. Go look at that 84 team. Mark Breland, Henry Tillman, Tyrell Biggs, Evander Holyfield, Sweet Pea Whitaker.

27:12Shannon Sharpe:Who else was in that team, on that team? That was crazy. They were crazy. That was, as a matter of fact, that was the last time the Olympics was in the U.S. It was in 84, Ochoa in L.A. And here we are back 26, 42 years later, back in L.A.

27:39Shannon Sharpe:Oh, you got to chill, man. Every boxer don't want to leave the game terminally ill in the head. I get it. but bro look my thing is is all I'm saying I never disparaged him and said he couldn't fight or he wasn't a good fighter I led with that when Ocho me and Ocho was talking about it I led with that I said but it's just not entertaining to me but I'm not the only one I get it I get it I'm one of the few to have a microphone Ocho and so somebody that has a microphone their voice is a little louder louder yes especially coming from you yes so I don't want him I hate that he think that I was like taking a shot at him.

28:18Like, but it is what it is.

28:22Shannon Sharpe:But I get what you're saying, bro. I get what you're saying. Zepeda is a come forward fighter. He pushed the pace. That's why it was good. No, I didn't see that fight. Somebody say Jake Paul over Shakur. Man, Jake Paul way over 200 pounds, man. Damn. Hey, he'll get himself peaced up too. Hey, man. Man, there's levels of boxing, man. Taylor Bell says his style puts me to sleep. I'm not saying that, but you know, hey. But when you see, like, I mean, from time to time, they'll have championship fights. Ocho, they'll have them on X. And you'll see them. And you see, like, damn, they throwing leather.

29:03Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Hey, hey, who was that the greatest first round ever? Oh, that was Hagelin Hearns. Boy, hey, Joe, if you see just the first round, over the Hagler and Hearns, you were like, ain't no way in hell they gonna have any gas left for the rest of the fight. Boy, they were going at it, boy. They was. I mean, they would just stay the toe-to-toe throw a lever. Yeah, that's when they used to throw down back then, boy. And you could hear those punches. Yeah. That's when they had them light-ass gloves. That's when they had them eight-ounce gloves, Ocho. Oh, yeah. Letting them rip, boy. After this, no more with YNs on the show.

29:43Shannon Sharpe:This dude doing too much over here. He going to get dealt with in the ring. Also, Ocho, stop eating booty. Nah, man. Hey, look, we appreciate the guys coming on because we want to highlight the sports because I love boxing. And I think it took a dip because guys weren't willing to fight. Guys became too consumed with the undefeated record and they weren't fighting. And like he said, Shakur said, look, Turkey controls everything now. So the money, right? and hopefully the money right, guys will want to fight. Even though it's not a belt. They say this is about the money now, and they're not going to have to fight like these guys.

30:20Shannon Sharpe:Man, look at Durant's record, Ocho. These guys had 100 and something fights. These guys fighting 70, 80, 90 times. You're not going to find a guy to fight like that no more, anymore. Hey, the money going to be right, but they ain't going to be fighting for no damn belts. Damn them belts. I would want to see them fight for the belt, Ocho, but if the two best men get in there, I'll take that. Fair. Fair. I'll take that, considering it's been so long. Because a lot of times, when the heavyweights fall, they ain't have no damn belts. Yeah. Because normally, you had to fight somebody to move up the pecking order to get in line, to be able to fight somebody that had a belt.

31:02Fight for a belt. Yeah.

31:06Shannon Sharpe:Bro, go fight Tank, and then we can talk. he's talking about Shakur he said that's who he wanted to fight he listed fighters he listed Tank he listed Haney he listed Russell and he listed Lamont Roach he said those are the four fights that he would like to make and one of those guys he would like to fight before the year is out he fought earlier he fought Tia Fimo I think it's January that he fought Tia Fimo and so that's plenty enough time to recover to be able to recover and to go fight because he didn't take no damage he put it he put it on to your people yeah that was crazy but oh you said you like to see him fight lamont roach joe you said you like yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah simply yeah i i i just don't think he'd like to see him fight haney yeah i didn't want to see him if long if long listen huh if long as haney as long as haney ain't on his bicycle he gonna you would I don't like when he be on that bicycle you know backing up, backing up, backing up, backing up backing up, backing up, backing up, backing up backing up, backing up, backing up throw a punch, backing up, backing up, backing up you know I understand fighting smart and being strategic in the way you fight somebody say this is the most fighting I've ever seen Shakur do

32:27Shannon Sharpe:Taylor Bell said he avoids all big fights well look he's in the Zuffer Zufa and he says you know hey fights can be made we're gonna see we've heard this before Ocho and Joe we'll see if they're gonna make the fights the people wanna see

32:52Shannon Sharpe:don't seem like belts are important anymore but I think the thing is you tell me look you can fight for a belt for 7, 8 million or you can fight for without a belt for 15, 20 I think they're going to take the 15-20. All day long.

33:08What?

33:14Shannon Sharpe:You need to be in Tank Corner to promote that fight with Shakur. Look, that'll be a huge. I mean, all these guys, but Tank, Shakur, you think that'll be the biggest of the four? What? Man, hell yeah. No question. I think people have to understand listen even with Tank troubles Tank is it will still be considered the face of boxing even with him getting in trouble some people might say it's Canelo some people might say it's Bud Tank can sell out of the arena by himself Bud with the face and retire yeah Tank can sell out of the stadium by himself Joe huh Tank can be fighting a teddy bear he gonna sell the arena out let me ask you a question Joe what do people like about Tank so much?

34:04That goddamn power. And somebody going to sleep. Nine times out of ten.

34:10Shannon Sharpe:Hey, you going to sleep if you go out there wild. But if you like Roach and you stay technical sound, fundamentally sound, you can take his ass a distance. Yeah. Hey, Styles win fights, Joe. You definitely got to watch that because he got dynamite in that left hand and he catch you with that uppercut of that hook yeah yeah like he called garcia man he who did a pitbull he caught pitbull in that corner with that uppercut don't you oh no he caught uh frank martin he like man frank martin that head like rock and soccer robot y 'all remember that rock and soccer robot that red that blue with it Yeah.

34:52Shannon Sharpe:What you got his head loose, man. That joker barely touch you the head. Like, damn. Well, you got some power, boy. I sold that homeboy that be quiet when he gets shaky, but he got that fire on him. Yeah, yeah. Hey, in the cut, just checking it out. Just see what's going on. You know what I'm talking about? Hey, damn. Yeah. Shakur my favorite fighter, but he's been having animosity towards Unc for almost a year now, and you can tell he still feels that way. Yeah. Yeah. Because the thing was, all I said was, Stiles not entertaining. He brought up my situation. What that got to do with my opinion of you're not entertaining to me?

35:35Shannon Sharpe:You might be entertaining to 15 ,000, 15 million people. I'm one person. Hey, you know what? When it comes, regards to boxing, not even Shakur, when it comes to sports we all have an opinion on everybody we watch everybody's not gonna like you some people are some people are but everybody's going to have that well everybody's gonna have an opinion hey honestly that was that made the show tonight to me hey listen y 'all i don't know i don't know if he's gonna be able to kill two hours with the topics we had guys and i didn't expect him to stay on that long but i kind of yeah that would you know yeah and talking kind where he kind of wanted to go.

36:16Shannon Sharpe:He wanted to get to that point about me saying that he wanted to go. You can hear it in his voice. Like, I could tell he was ready to get, you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. And so I was like, okay. You know, I swiped through it to Ocho. And, you know, Ocho, you guys were like, well, damn. You got it. I was like, well, damn. It's back to me. I was like, oh, look, here we go. And he was like, well, let me ask you something. You know, when they say, let me ask you something, Joe and Ocho, you already know. You already know what's coming. that was good when they say that's good for tv that's good that was great for what we do what's up nightcap fam mma ufc is way better than simple fact the best fight the best i'm still waiting on fury versus joshua in boxing i think they're supposed to fight don't they got a fight coming up joe oh joe type of fewer anthony joshua i think they got a fight coming up.

37:08Yeah, not scheduled. But I think they agreed to fight.

37:13Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, but it would have been a lot better if this was about two, three years ago, though.

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41:54Shannon Sharpe:They say they're supposed to fight late 26, potentially November. But it also hinges on both fighters winning their tune-up matches in July. Yeah. So, boy, that'll be. They're going to win them two nuts. That's going to be a monster fight. But it is. But I think Ocho and Joe, I do think that's why the UFC. Because Dana White not going to let you duck. You can't have no belt. You ain't ducking nobody. You're not. Yeah. And you hold that belt for a – if you can hold on to a belt for a period of three years, because, man, anything can turn the lights out of a fight. Yep. Quick. Guys be winning the whole – and then, boom, get caught with something and it's over.

42:45Shannon Sharpe:One mistake. Short circuit. But I do think that has a lot to do with the rise of the UFC and the fall of boxing. Hopefully boxing is coming back because we got Bud and Canelo. it's the same thing we said about Pacquiao or Mayweather. We probably got there about five years too late. We take it, but what could have been, or maybe what should have been? Right. Ungained respect. He told Mayweather 2.0, he felt like he didn't walk it back. Shakur ain't like that. T ain't getting him out of here. Look, I think it's going to be a great fight. I want to see it. We're going to be there. if they fight we are going to be there definitely going to that because I saw Bud and well Ocho you and I went to the Bud Canelo fight and then I went to the Bud Spence fight oh you was there for that yeah I feel I feel bad that fight man he did ooh, I feel, man man, it was worse in person, Ocho you ain't, boy, listen, you ain't got to tell me I wasn't as close as we were for the Bud Canelo fight, Ocho, you know, we was about eight rows about six rows back oh yeah ain't he finna fight, ain't he finna fight though?

44:15Shannon Sharpe:who? yeah, he fight he fight Tim Zhu when, when, Ocho? is it July? hey, Chad what is that fight? it's coming up it's coming up real soon It might be July. Wait, I think July 25th or July 22nd. I could be wrong. Yeah. But it's coming up. It's coming up.

44:42Shannon Sharpe:You play football. You play basketball. You play baseball. You don't play boxing. If you know, you know. No. You don't play any. You don't play any. What is that? Combat sport. I mean, boxing, MMA. Muay Thai or whatever the case may be. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And the thing is, that's one-on-one. That's it. Ain't no time out. Nope. Ain't no give me a break. Ain't no wrestling with the ball on the other side of the field. Ain't no none of that. You can't check nobody in for you. Hey, Ocho, hey, man. Hey, get in there. Oh, hey. You like wrestling. You be tagging it. and Ocho hop over the top rope, ain't none of that.

45:29Shannon Sharpe:Hey, you talking about mental toughness, bro? You got to have it. Ooh. You got to have it. That's a – I mean, you got to think about that, bro. I mean, think about it. I mean, that's a fight. I mean, we fighting in football, Ocho, but you know sometimes, hey, sometimes, Ocho, we just running off. I ain't blocking nobody. I'm just going to release outside. You chase me down the field. Now, sometimes I got – hey, I got – Joe, I got to lock up. Yeah. Yeah. and this right here you got to be laser focused for 36 minutes one mistake and they're sure you change everything

46:13Shannon Sharpe:nah

46:16Shannon Sharpe:court needs to respect his elders he good man we good what up big three entertaining segment y 'all gonna have uh all three teams with the fight shakur at same time night camp outside now ocho ocho say you want that sparring work yeah i'm i'm gonna go in there yeah yeah we got we got to film that too man okay we gotta film that huh he gonna get the best of me joe but i mean you it's one me one thing for me to say it but when you when you see it be like okay now i see why you do all that he doing that so you get scared you don't want none of this That's what he doing that for. Who ain't gonna want none?

46:59Shannon Sharpe:Man, Ocho knee high to a duck's ass. What he gonna do with me, huh? That man can't do nothing with me. Okay. What hat got to do with it? Your little bit ass. That's what I'm trying to, man, listen. Hey, you know who else is big? You know who else is big? Goliath. And what David did to him? Oh, you were doing it. God done told you what you gonna do, huh, Ocho? Well, who you told me? Yeah, I'm gonna touch his ass. I got it all planned out. He got to worry about God touching him. I'm going to touch his ass. That's what he need to worry about. Yeah. That's what he need to worry about. Talking about God.

47:33Shannon Sharpe:He ain't talking about Joe. Yeah. Hey, Joe. Hey, you keep on talking, but you're going to be on here with two black eyes. Yeah, okay. All right. What's up, Nightcap fam? Today was my wife's birthday. Portia Seals Catledge. Give her a shout out. please love you guys so much. Oh, number one. We all know it. Come on, bro. Porsche. There we go. Hubby said he wanted to. Happy birthday, Porsche. Happy birthday, Porsche. She was Cadillage. Today was her birthday. Guys, she celebrated her birthday. And a hubby wanted to give her a shout out. So you know what? He said, look. Ain't nobody going nowhere.

48:14He say, you going to be with her?

48:18Shannon Sharpe:She going to be with you? Or we going to be together? Those are the only three choices we got. Now, which one is going to be? You be with her, she be with you, y 'all be together.

48:32Portia, you got to keep her.

48:36Shannon Sharpe:Yes, sir. Would you say the fact a starter hasn't been named yet as Proust-Jadour is a legitimate shot at winning the job? Forget the money. Todd coaching for his job. Yeah. I didn't think, I didn't, me personally, Ocho, I didn't think they were going to name one until they get to the training camp. Now, they might already... We know how that is. They already got the guy they want to start. But they just play it. That's just me. That's what I think. But why I've been hearing all these trade rumors what you're doing, though? I don't believe it.

49:12Ain't nothing happening. He ain't going nowhere.

49:14Shannon Sharpe:That's just me. I don't believe it, Joe. I don't.

49:21Shannon Sharpe:I guess we don't have to wait back in the same let's just say for the sake of argument you do trade let's just say it came true in that case you're going to be looking for another quarterback next year because I don't think any of us believe that Deshaun is going to be there so now are you saying you got your quarterback they got your guy Joe from Arkansas oh yeah green yeah yeah yeah so you say that's your guy I mean at some point time at some point time we've got to stop the the carousel and just and and pick a quarterback guys and ride with you ride it at some point in time now we can't I mean you can't keep playing musical chairs at a quarterback position Ocho Joe you gotta have stability there and there's a hard part is finding somebody finding that quarterback to be stable.

50:21Shannon Sharpe:Yes. And you can't, okay, you go a couple of games and he doesn't play well and they boo it and then you snatch him out. Sometimes you got to ride through turbulent waters. Everything ain't going to be smooth sailing. I think sometimes we fall in love and they think everything's going to be smooth. It wasn't smooth for Brady. It wasn't smooth for Manny.

50:43Shannon Sharpe:They were a run first team. The first couple of Super Bowls that Tom won, they were a run first team. They evolved to a throw team. Right. Hey, man, when the infrastructure ain't right, Ocho. No. I'll give it to A.A. It's hard to put a quarterback out there that even if he is good, hell, you won't see it. No. No. A la the New York Jets. Do you guys think I think LeBron wants to move his family back to the East Coast when he has a lot going on on the West Coast. I'm not so sure that his family would move. Zuri is in school. Savannah has what she has going on. I think LeBron's mom, she has a place.

51:35Shannon Sharpe:She still has a place in Akron, and she got a place. I think she has a place out in L.A. I'm not sure. But I don't know if he would uproot his family. Yeah, I don't think so neither, man. I mean, considering the fact that – Zuri's in volleyball and she's in school. She has her activity. She has her stuff. I don't think he would. But, hey, we'll see. We'll see. And wherever he goes, Ocho, the state probably won't be no more than two years, if that. You know what I mean? Right. So, I don't see that neither. Right. Yeah, because if you think about it, everywhere else – I mean, we knew he was going to be in – we knew he was going to be in Miami for four years.

52:12Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. He went back to Cleveland. and we know he's going to be there for four years. And then go to L.A. And, you know, he kept, you know, two plus one, two plus one, two plus one.

52:27Shannon Sharpe:So, you know, then it was one plus one. We want to thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. We want to thank our very, very special guest, a four-division champ. Shakur Stevenson joins us. He joined the Zufa Boxing League. That's the league, Turkish Ali, Dana White, and Khan. So I'm going to thank you guys. I want to thank him for joining us. We really appreciate that. He mentioned that he wants to fight before this year is out. He gave us four names, Devin Haney, Tank Davis, Lamont Roach, and Gary Russell. Those are the names that he wanted to fight. Hopefully one or these fights can come to fruition, and we'll get a good fight.

53:09Shannon Sharpe:That would be awesome. So y 'all know who I am. I'm your favorite my partner and co-host. That's the Liberty City legend. That's the bingo. Ring of Fame Arteree. A former Pro Bowl and All Pro. The route runner extraordinaire himself. That is Chad Ochocinco Johnson. And Little Rock Arkansas native. University of Arkansas alum. A seven time NBA All-Star from the Atlanta Hawks. Mr. Clutch the sharp shooting two guard from the Atlanta Hawks. That's him. ISO Joe Johnson. please make sure you hit that subscribe button please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap Podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from we'd like to thank each and every one of you for your support and your continued support because all of this is all because of you we could not have done it without you so we really really appreciate you following us what you got Ocho hey it's 1238 right yes I mean I don't really listen to rap but when his album comes out I normally listen to it Uncle Joe and chat future just dropped it yeah yeah just came out I'm looking at right now yeah oh 22 songs just came hey oh and you know AJ the Boston Darren Peterson played against each other tonight yeah I saw what you call me went to the whole all the bother went to the old and flushed it hard yeah he had 27.

54:32Shannon Sharpe:DeBunse had 27. Peterson had like 22, 23. Look, it's going to be one of those where they go back and forth for years and years to come, Joe. It is. It's been great if they were in the Western Conference so that no, we're going to get them up four times a year at least. Right, right, right. But I think it's going to be a hell of a battle between them two for years to come. You're right. I mean, two great young talents, bro. I don't think they got it wrong. I know Peterson had them first couple games of Summer League and everybody was talking about how he should have been the number one pick. But, hell, you hadn't seen AJ.

55:07Shannon Sharpe:You know what I mean? Like these two. Well, they saw him tonight. Them boys can go, man. Thank you for your support and your continued support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shea by Laportier, head over to LaportierCognac.com to purchase you a bottle if it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you. It is a premium VSOP cognac, the best tasting smoothest VSOP cognac on the market. Don't take my word for it. try it and compare it against other cognacs, and you'll see. We have the best tasting smoothest cognac on the market. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Again, I want to thank Shakur Stevenson for joining us tonight.

55:40Shannon Sharpe:Talk about joining Zuffer Boxing League and his potential opponents later this year. So hopefully we'll get an opportunity to see him fight one of the big four guys that was on his list. Yeah, we'd like to see him fight Tank, but if it's Devin Haney, if it's Lamont Roach, or if it's Gary Russell, we'll take any of those four. That's what we want to see. We want to see the best fight the best, and those are some of the best fighters that we have currently, and to see them going up against each other, that would be much, much appreciated. Again, thank you for tuning in for Nightcap. I'm Unc, he's Ocho, he's Iso.

56:14Shannon Sharpe:We're off tomorrow, but we'll see you on Saturday. Peace.

56:30Let's go.

56:41We'll see you next time.

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