In short
Episode topic: Troy Aikman joins Clarence Hill Jr. (and hosts Ocho and Joe) to discuss the Dolphins’ offseason strategy, including why Aikman’s league relationships and “intel” could help Miami. The conversation expands into NFL roster-building under cap/dead-cap constraints, coaching/GM authority, and Dolphins vs. Cowboys outlooks. The episode also includes sports talk (Nikola Jokic MVP debate), plus Q&A/voicemails, personal stories, and lighter banter.
Guests (and backgrounds)
- Troy Aikman: former Dallas Cowboys Hall of Fame quarterback; NFL analyst/TV commentator; now a Dolphins offseason consultant.
- Clarence Hill Jr.: longtime NFL beat writer/covering Cowboys (noted as formerly the Cowboys beat writer; now “doing his own thing”).
- Ocho and Joe: hosts of the Nightcap Hour segment (former NFL players referenced; Ocho is “King Ocho,” Joe is “Mr. Joe”).
Key claims
- Dolphins were “wise” to use Aikman’s relationships and operational intel; Cowboys “haven’t elected to do that” (at least with Aikman).
- No conflict in consulting; Dolphins hired “two really talented” people.
- Success depends on getting the right players and coach-player respect; owners overruling coaches can break systems.
- Dead cap forces Miami/Dallas to hit on drafts; free agency spending is limited.
Notable examples
- Discussion of Cowboys dead cap figures (about $175–$182M; 58–60% of cap).
- Examples of Dolphins cap/roster: Tyreek Hill, Tua, Jalen Waddle (traded), Jalen Ramsey.
- Debate about Josh Allen criticism (five turnovers in a specific game) and a Jokic MVP race (“Chet… and Wemby” mentioned).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOTroy Aikman Discusses Dolphins Consulting Role
1:52 to 2:53
Troy Aikman shares insights on his consulting position with the Miami Dolphins.
“and spoke on working with the Dolphins as a consultant in the offseason.”
Discussion on Aikman’s Influence and Cowboys Intel
2:57 to 6:11
A conversation on the implications of Aikman's role and Cowboys' strategies.
“Well, Cowboy didn't mind that you were going to trade Jordan Brooks to the Cowboys.”
Coaching and Organizational Challenges in Miami
6:13 to 9:58
Hosts discuss coaching issues and the impact of management decisions.
“Who gets blamed for the Luka trade, Ocho?”
The Future of the Dolphins: Cap Space and Strategy
10:00 to 11:14
Analyzing the Dolphins' financial situation and future strategy.
“But the thing was, he didn't want the quarterback that the owner overruled him.”
Quarterback and Player Discussion
11:16 to 14:00
Discussion about potential quarterbacks and players for the Dolphins.
“It's going to be a rough, what, one or two years, Joe?”
Dolphins' Salary Cap Situation
14:00 to 15:36
Learn about the Miami Dolphins' salary cap challenges and player contracts.
“So they're over almost$60 million clear of that.”
Nikola Jokic's Stellar Performance
16:49 to 17:58
Discuss Nikola Jokic's recent game and MVP candidacy.
“This season with his back-to-back triple-double.”
Voicemail Segment: Fan Questions
18:02 to 19:26
Listen to fan voicemails and their questions for Ocho and Joe.
“Because I've seen this YouTube clip on my YouTube shorts.”
Discussions on Josh Allen's Performance
19:38 to 22:04
Analyze Josh Allen's performance and turnovers in a recent game.
“Let's take a listen to what he said in our second one.”
Support for a Fan's Family Member
24:45 to 27:38
Supportive message for a fan's mother battling cancer and family struggles.
“And thanks to your prayers and the man above that's watching over her, Barbara is going to be just fine.”
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Underrated Teammates: T.J. Houshmandzada
28:00 to 30:00
Troy Aikman discusses the impact of underrated teammates on his success.
“That's a good one, especially for me, obviously, who I played with in college and obviously the NFL, T.J.”
Close Bonds and Unique Teammates
30:00 to 32:20
Aikman shares stories about his close relationships with Sean Marion and Josh Smith.
“Because you best believe if they were at fault.”
Family Humbling Moments
32:20 to 34:20
Discussion on how family keeps athletes grounded amidst success.
“Liberty City, Charles Hadley Championship.”
Personal Growth Beyond Football
34:20 to 37:40
Aikman reflects on lessons learned outside of football and personal evolution.
“was that was just a character that i displayed on sundays off the field i'm nothing like that I'm completely different.”
Mount Rushmore of Hometown Athletes
38:20 to 41:20
Discussion on the most influential athletes from their hometowns.
“I think me and my brother, we got to occupy two of those spots.”
Fitness and Aging: Maintaining Strength
41:20 to 42:02
Conversation about fitness, strength maintenance, and aging in athletes.
“Maybe third and three or second and two.”
Preparing for Summer and Birthdays
42:02 to 43:32
The hosts discuss their fitness goals for summer and share birthday shout-outs.
“Would mean a lot if you could give us a happy birthday shout-out.”
The Evolution of Nightcap
43:32 to 45:38
The hosts reflect on how Nightcap started and its unexpected growth.
“Anytime you want to come, bro, come over.”
From Concept to Launch
45:38 to 48:14
Insight into the planning and launch of Nightcap, including challenges faced.
“And we got young men and women coming on talking about it.”
Building the Show's Team
48:14 to 51:19
Discussion on assembling the team for Nightcap and the roles of producers.
“So when you left Fox, you already knew you wanted to do Nightcap?”
Bathroom Humor and Personal Stories
51:19 to 56:00
The hosts share humorous stories related to bathroom experiences and travel.
“That's really, we basically put this show together in two weeks.”
Bathroom Habits and Airplane Dilemmas
56:00 to 57:40
The hosts share humorous anecdotes about their bathroom habits while traveling.
“You washing every goddamn skin follicle off you.”
Comfort in Uncomfortable Situations
57:40 to 1:00:00
The conversation continues with funny takes on comfort levels during private moments.
“I've driven all the way home from the gym too, Joe.”
Preparing for the Colonoscopy
1:00:00 to 1:02:40
The hosts discuss the importance of colonoscopies while maintaining a comedic tone.
“He said, hey, look, I got a homeboy because he like that type of stuff too.”
Celebrating Achievements
1:02:40 to 1:04:40
A celebratory moment as one host shares their achievement of completing a master's degree.
“We're receiving my master's degree in information technology.”
Fragrance Favorites and Personal Grooming
1:04:40 to 1:06:40
Discussion on favorite fragrances and personal grooming products among the hosts.
“They said when people asked me, man, what does Shannon Sharp smell like?”
Sports Discussions and Game Plans
1:06:40 to 1:10:00
The hosts talk sports, teasing future game plans and bets between them.
“Joe will have to get Lil Boosie to come on nightcap.”
Country Music Favorites
1:10:00 to 1:10:20
The hosts discuss their favorite country music artists and songs.
“Okay, I'll take Dolly Parton because I do know Dolly.”
Guarding Kobe Bryant
1:10:20 to 1:10:50
Insights on the challenges of guarding Kobe Bryant in the NBA.
“Ocho, who's the tallest player in your era?”
Memorable Country Shows
1:10:50 to 1:11:10
A nostalgic look back at classic country shows and artists.
“shoot the middie, get to the rack, dunk on you.”
Preparation for Procedures
1:11:10 to 1:11:50
Humorous exchanges around preparing for a colonoscopy.
“One of my favorite shows growing up was Hee Haw.”
Celebrating Achievements
1:11:50 to 1:12:20
A shoutout for completing a master's degree and the celebration invite.
“I'm trying to get you ready Joe I'm trying to get you ready for the colonoscopy hey Joe they call it the spread eagle just spread eagle man just no sir hey cover your ass like this, Joe.”
Discussion on Fragrances
1:12:20 to 1:13:00
The hosts share their thoughts on popular fragrances and personal preferences.
“Unc Ocho Iso, give your boy a shout out.”
Cologne Experiences
1:13:00 to 1:13:20
The hosts share funny anecdotes related to cologne and personal grooming.
“Ron, for me, can we get Lil Boosie on the show for the playoffs?”
Bad Breath and Oral Hygiene
1:13:20 to 1:14:20
A light-hearted discussion about bad breath and oral hygiene habits.
“y 'all ever smelt that Tom Ford fucking fabulous?”
Nostalgic Cologne Memories
1:14:20 to 1:16:10
Reflecting on past cologne choices and their significance.
“Man, if I wouldn't wear cologne, somebody's gonna slap fire to me because I ain't wore cologne since 86.”
Sports Betting Conversations
1:16:10 to 1:17:10
The hosts engage in playful banter about sports betting and debts owed.
“Nah, it was a clear bottle See if Calvin Klein still make Obsession I could have swore I could have swore it was burgundy, like a maroon.”
Favorite Country Artists
1:17:10 to 1:19:00
Continued discussion about favorite country artists and personal encounters.
“Look, TSA ain't no struggles right now, so I'm going to come.”
Creating Music Memories
1:19:00 to 1:20:00
Hosts reminisce about contributing to the creation of famous songs.
“music singers who are you guys top three Charlie Pryde songs Well, I know Garth Brooks, that about it.”
Football Stories and Experiences
1:20:00 to 1:24:03
Tales from their football journeys and experiences with teammates.
“I don't really you know a whole lot of country singers country.”
Memorable NFL Moments with Troy Aikman
1:24:03 to 1:25:26
Troy Aikman shares insights and anecdotes from his NFL career, including memorable games and players.
“when you were mic'd up against the Steelers.”
Best Live Sports Moments
1:25:29 to 1:26:22
Discussion about unforgettable moments witnessed live at sports events, including A.I.'s legendary performance.
“What's the best all-time sports moment you've witnessed live at a game before?”
Transcript
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1:51Shannon Sharpe:Troy Akin sat down with Clarence Hill Jr. and spoke on working with the Dolphins as a consultant in the offseason. Let's listen to what Troy had to say. I don't know. I think the Dolphins were wise in understanding my relationships around the league and knowing that I have information that they don't have or can't get. And I think they were smart in taking advantage of that, whether it was through me or through somebody else. The Cowboys have never elected to do that. at least with me you know maybe they have with others but uh but no i don't i don't feel there's a conflict but uh but i will say i'm pulling for the dolphins and i know that uh because because now i have something at stake and and and i think i think they hired two really talented wonderful people and i i think that's going to prove itself out now 26 is going to be a tough season because of the cap that you know took a big hit when they when they left two ago but You know, time will tell, but yeah, I'm pulling for him.
2:53I want to see him do well because I feel like my fingerprints are on it as well. Well, Cowboy didn't mind that you were going to trade Jordan Brooks to the Cowboys. I like Jordan Brooks.
3:07Shannon Sharpe:That's my guy Clarence Hill Jr. I've known Clarence for a while. He's always at the Super Bowl. He used to be the beat writer for the Cowboys. I think he's kind of doing his own thing now, right, isn't he? Or is he still with the Cowboys? But he got an opportunity to sit down with Troy, who's one of the great players in Cowboys history.
3:27Chad Johnson:Yes, sir.
3:28Shannon Sharpe:Joe, what do you think about – and Ocho, you can chime in with this, man. What do you think about Troy, one of the great players in Cowboys history, and Jerry allowed him to give intel to the Dolphins?
3:40Joe Johnson:I mean, I don't understand what kind of intel is he going to have that the organization and the resources that they have that they can't find out on their own. when it comes to picking players, when it comes to getting players. I mean, there's film study. You have scouts. You have GMs.
3:55Shannon Sharpe:I think it's more of GMs than coaches because he gets an opportunity to talk to these people. He's not in production meeting 19 weeks of the year. Troy is. He's not meeting with head coaches and general managers. Troy is. So he's picking up schemes and what they do and how they operate.
4:17Chad Johnson:Hey, hold on. I don't know, Ocho. So the Dolphins gave Aikman a job?
4:23Shannon Sharpe:As a consultant, they say, look, we got a couple of, probably a couple hundred thousand or a million dollars to come in. Look at, assess what we have. Look at where you think we're weak, where we're strong, where we can get better. Who are some of the coaches? Who are some of the executives that you think would work well here in Miami?
4:41Chad Johnson:Oh, shit, y 'all know Jerry ain't studying that. He don't need that.
4:44Joe Johnson:Well, Unc, you know none of that matter, huh? you could have Jesus and the 12 disciples in the goddamn front office if you ain't got the goddamn product on the field.
4:55Shannon Sharpe:But who picking the players? You don't think the people in, you don't think the guy in Detroit did a good job of picking the players? He traded for golf. He picked J-Mo. He picked Gibbs. He picked Amon Ra. He picked Hutchinson. He picked all those guys. What about the guy in Chicago? Phenomenal. Paul, Brad Holmes, if I'm not mistaken, is in Detroit. But polls, so what about these guys, the guy that did Chicago? It's not making a difference? Look at where they were before those guys took over and look at where they are now. You think High Roseman is not making a difference? A huge difference. You think Brent Beach, who's picking the guys in Kansas City?
5:35Joe Johnson:Can I ask you a question? Yes. So do you think that the answer to the Dolphins' problem is getting the answers from? Aikman. Aikman?
5:47Shannon Sharpe:I think the thing is that they're looking for who do you think would be a fit. You see, the thing is, you can have a fit, but if Jerry's going to say, I want you to play this guy, or I want you to take that guy, but that guy might not fit the offensive scheme. He might not fit the defensive scheme, but Jerry likes him. Then what do I do? And then if it doesn't work, then who gets blamed, Ocho? Just like the Luka trade. Who gets blamed for the Luka trade, Ocho? Mr. Nico. but who made that decision Josh Dumont this is why the Cowboys don't have look I think the thing is is that Troy has access because he's doing these production meetings he's talking to head coaches he's talking to assistants because sometimes it's obviously the head coach ain't leaving but you're talking to a defensive coordinator you're calling a linebacker coach you're talking to this or that or you're talking to front office people and they're giving you intel and he said well I think this guy would be a great fit for who you are your personality I think this guy would be because at the end of the day Ocho when we put this thing together and I said I think Ocho Ocho?
7:01Shannon Sharpe:Why Ocho? I said because he don't take himself serious and he's the direct opposite of me I'm serious and he takes very little stuff serious but he understands the game so you got to have a pair you got to have a match I could have somebody the exact same as me, but I couldn't have somebody the exact Ocho and somebody that's the exact Ocho. That's not going to work either.
7:23Chad Johnson:Yeah.
7:24Shannon Sharpe:So you have to have a yin and a yang. You have to have a pull and a push.
7:28Chad Johnson:I agree.
7:32Look, Jerry, Jerry, Jerry, look, Jerry wants the credit.
7:40Shannon Sharpe:This thing works. Jerry's going to get all the credit. that's just the way it is that's that A and I'm a firm believer that you don't realize how successful something can be as long as you don't care who gets the credit Jerry wants the credit
7:54Chad Johnson:that's why he's the GM and the owner
7:57Shannon Sharpe:GM owner VP yeah I mean all I know is Mr. Craft Mr. Craft ain't Mr. Craft like he's the owner he ain't have a whole bunch of titles but all I know is how many times he picked that trophy up how many times has Clark Hunk picked that trophy up. How many times has Jeff Lurie picked that trophy up? Jerry ain't picked that trophy up in 30 years, Ocho.
8:22Joe Johnson:He's not changing. He's not changing.
8:29I mean...
8:29Chad Johnson:All right, not too much, fella. Not too much. Not too much.
8:35Shannon Sharpe:But that's the thing. As long as you don't care who gets the credit, you can be really, really good. But if you start thinking about you because sometimes you undermine your own your own self because you care You worried about who getting the credit?
8:47Chad Johnson:Right?
8:48Shannon Sharpe:I want to win. Yeah, I
8:51Joe Johnson:Get it. I see I still don't think obviously even even though, you know, Troy Aikman Obviously Super Bowl winning quarterback. He does what he does Superb analyst, you know, calling commentary when it comes to helping the Dolphins franchise and changing some of the things and I I just don't see it. I don't see it. Tell me what you don't see. Maybe Joe and I can help you see
9:16Shannon Sharpe:what you don't see.
9:17Joe Johnson:No, nothing going to see because we're going to see when it's time to play that regards to who you come in there, it's not going to change until you get the goddamn players. You have to be, and you got that. We haven't had the product since Dan Marino. We haven't had the product since Dan Marino.
9:32Shannon Sharpe:I don't know if you've had a look, and you hear this stuff coming out about McDaniels and guys possibly didn't respect him and how he talked to the players in X, Y, and Z. There has to be a healthy combination. There has to be good players, but the players have to have a respect for a coach, Ocho. It's got to be that. If the players don't respect the coach, they're going to run them up. Go ahead.
9:55Joe Johnson:Before Mike McDaniels, who do we have? The black guy that's in D.C. In Minnesota. Yes. He was respected.
10:06Shannon Sharpe:He was respected. He was. But the thing was, he didn't want the quarterback that the owner overruled him. He what?
10:15Joe Johnson:Again, see, there's a problem. That's where the problem lies. You have someone that knows football already and understand what it takes to win. Listen, I don't think he's the answer for our organization going forward. So now the owner was the problem.
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10:29Chad Johnson:Yeah.
10:30Shannon Sharpe:My thing is, if you hire somebody to do a job, are you going to let them do the job? If you hire somebody to do your roof, you're going to be out there telling him what he should, how he should do it? Are you going to let the mofo do it, Ocho? Joe, you hire somebody to do a job in your house, and you're out there telling him, well, you should have did it.
10:48Chad Johnson:Right, right.
10:50Shannon Sharpe:If you're telling him what to do, why are you paying him this money? When you know what to do, just do it yourself.
10:56Chad Johnson:Yeah.
10:57Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. But like you said, Ocho, we'll see if they get the right pieces, if this is the right coach, if this is the right general manager. They clearly didn't believe. They believed that they were bloated. They believed that their quarterback and some of the other pieces that they have, they weren't going to win. And they went for it. Give them credit. Steven Ross believed. Look, let's go for it. I'm going to sign Tyreek. I'm going to sign Bradley Chubb. I'm going to sign a lot of these guys. It didn't work out.
11:28Chad Johnson:Yeah.
11:29Joe Johnson:Yeah. They starting from scratch, boy. They absolutely start from scratch. They super, duper scratch. It's going to be a rough, what, one or two years, Joe?
11:39Chad Johnson:They ain't been saying that, though.
11:41Shannon Sharpe:Because they got all that dead cap money. Yeah. They got Tyreek's money. They got Chubb's money. They got Tua's money. Did they trade Minka Fitzpatrick? They traded somebody. They got a lot of other money out there. So you got$100 million in dead cap money.
12:03Chad Johnson:Ocho, your guppies, your guppies gone.
12:05Joe Johnson:Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. Hey, listen, listen. My Dolphin and your Cowboys in the same boat, homie.
12:11Chad Johnson:No, no, no, no, no. We in the same boat.
12:14Joe Johnson:We are not in the same boat as them guppies. Don't do that. Joe, when the season ended, y 'all was on the same couch
12:21Chad Johnson:we was on. What did you talk about? Ocho, you know y 'all starting over. Ocho, come on, stop it now. We got some promise over here. OK. Oh, no. Don't do that. 30 years and you still took our promise? You been trying to get our wide receiver since the season been going on. Hold on. You still got promise after 30 years? You still believe that? Yeah, we got a decent team. We gonna be alright? We just need a little help defensively.
12:46Joe Johnson:Yo, you have a decent team every year, Joe. Y 'all say the same thing every year, Joe. You talk about delusion? This is part of it, Joe. You part of the problem.
12:56Chad Johnson:Nah, nah.
12:57Joe Johnson:You being naive.
12:58Chad Johnson:Now you naive with them damn Bengals. That's who naive. We better than y 'all? That's a damn lie.
13:04Joe Johnson:We better than y 'all?
13:05Chad Johnson:Nah, hell nah.
13:07Joe Johnson:Okay, we'll see this year. All right. We gonna play y 'all this year? I would hope not, Joe. I would hope that's not what you want.
13:14Chad Johnson:Well, I bet the house. I know we gonna run mud hole in y 'all.
13:17Joe Johnson:Who gonna stop Jamar?
13:20Shannon Sharpe:Joe. Who gonna stop T? The Cowboys are faced with an approximately between$175 and$182 million in dead cap money, which is about 58 % to 60 % of their total cap space. Tua, Hill, Jalen Waddell, well, they still got him. And, oh, no. They traded Jalen Waddell to the Broncos. So Tua, Hill, Waddell, and Ramsey. So guys are not even on their team eating up their cap space. And Tyreek Hill too, right? Yeah. Yeah. Tua, Tyreek Hill, Jalen Waddell, and Jalen Ramsey. Damn. That's crazy. The most ever was$127 million in 2022. So they're over almost$60 million clear of that. Damn. Tua is$56 million in the dead calf space.
14:17Shannon Sharpe:Waddell is$26 million. Bradley Chubb is somewhere between$10.9 million and$20 million. and also with Tyreek Hill and Jalen Ramsey. Damn. So basically, over the next couple of years, they're going to have to build this thing. They're going to have to hit it out the park, Ocho and Joe, with their draft picks. And they draft picks, yep. When you got that kind of deck, you can't spend no money in free agency.
14:42Chad Johnson:Who they got the quarterback this year?
14:46Shannon Sharpe:They signed the guy from Green Bay.
14:49Chad Johnson:Malik Willis. Yeah, Malik Willis.
14:51Joe Johnson:Yeah, we got Malik Willis. Yeah, who he got to throw to? Ocho. Tutu Atwell. Tutu Atwell, Washington, you know, some other guys. I mean, no disrespect, just some guys. Some guys, you know, they're decent. You know, it ain't no Justin Jeffersons, no Jamar Chases, nothing like that. We have a good core receivers. We still need a dog, though.
15:15Shannon Sharpe:You do.
15:16Joe Johnson:You need a dog. Because you look at what Malik Willis was able to do in Green Bay when Jordan Love went down and understand the success he had, but also look at the support and cast he had. Look at who he was doing it with. Exactly. So don't think you sign him and you bring him into the Dolphins to repeat the success he had in Green Bay, but he ain't got the same support and cast.
15:36Chad Johnson:Right.
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16:48Shannon Sharpe:Joe, before we go, we're going to tell you about Nikola Jokic. He had a monster game again. 35 points, 14 rebounds, 13 assists.
16:59Chad Johnson:Man, listen.
17:00Shannon Sharpe:This season with his back-to-back triple-double. Only Russell Westbrook has been able to go back-to-back with triple-doubles. I'm telling my... All right, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Damn.
17:19Shannon Sharpe:He's going to lead the league in rebounds and assists. I don't know if we've ever seen that kind of combination before.
17:24Chad Johnson:Do you think he got a chance to win MVP? Keep it real. I do. Do you really?
17:30Shannon Sharpe:I do. But I think it's going to be Chet. I think it's going to be Chet, him, and Wimby. As far as what?
17:38Chad Johnson:MVP. You mean Shea? I mean Shea, not Shea. Shea. Shea, him, and Wimby. Shea. Yeah. Yoke, Shea, Yoke, and Wimby. Damn.
17:54Shannon Sharpe:Alright, before we get to the Super Chat, we got another five videos or five voicemails from our Discord. Let's take a listen to number one. What up, Uncle Ocho, Iso, and the Nightcap family. I hope all y 'all know good, healthy. From Louisiana, you heard me. But I got a question for Unk. Because I've seen this YouTube clip on my YouTube shorts. Unk was on TV doing this thing. Man, Unk gonna say, for 50 million, I'll go to hell. I just always wanted to ask Unk, like, what was you talking about? Like, what the hell? What made you say that, bro? I just been geeked ever since Mike, you just been playing back in my head ever since, so I just been wanting to ask you this I think we were talking about a quarterback a quarterback I forget who the quarterback was and we were talking about he's about to get 50 million and I'm like, 50 million does he want to go to such and such a place I'm like, for 50 million, I'm going to hell
19:00Shannon Sharpe:yeah, Sam Darnold going back to the Jets That's what it was. Sam Darnold going back to the Jets. I think the thing is, Ocho, people take everything that we say literally in a literally interpretation. The whole thing is a part of it. It's like, well, I would go pay for that. I mean, sometimes you just got to make stuff entertaining. Yeah, yeah.
19:20Joe Johnson:They don't understand that.
19:24Shannon Sharpe:But they say all the time. I mean, when we talk about these salaries, oh, I'll do this. Oh, I'll be at training camp. I'll be at training camp right now. Oh, I'll play two games. Yeah, I'll play three games in a week. Yeah. But it is what it is. All right, here's our second one. Let's take a listen to what he said in our second one. Ocho, Joe, shout out to you guys.
19:45Joe Johnson:Congrats on 10 million subscribers. And watch you guys since you guys used to sing the outros. Question for you guys. Uncle Ocho, what was the best touch out that got called back? And Joe, what was the foul that almost set you off? And still, King Ocho. King Ocho King Ocho Hey somebody that knows That's what I'm talking about Get it right King Ocho What he said the best celebration What's the best touchdown That you had called back Oh damn That's a good one
20:28Joe Johnson:Oh that's a good one boy I can't even remember any touchdowns. I can't either, Joe.
20:35Shannon Sharpe:I mean, Ocho and Joe. I don't know if I've had a touchdown. You know, I'm sure I have.
20:40Joe Johnson:Yeah, I don't think I've had a touchdown callback. I've had catches callback, but I can't think of a touchdown.
20:47Chad Johnson:Man, hey, he talking about that foul that almost set me off. I can't say it's a foul that almost set me off, but, boy, I was playing in Phoenix, and we came here to play the Atlanta Hawks, and they had Theo Ratliff. You want to feel Radliff on? Yeah. Yeah. He was swole, wasn't he? Swole. Woo. Hey, look, I got in the paint, Ocho, and I gave him a pump fake, and he jumped, and when he came down, he elbowed. He kicked it up with it. In the top of my head? Woo. I'm talking about blood just started coming down the side of my head and my face. I had to go in the back, get like eight stitches, bro, at the top of my head.
21:21Chad Johnson:Damn. Yeah. You were high. You ain't swing on him, Joe? Nah, I ain't swing on him. Hell, I barely even know what the hell was going on. I'm talking about he elbow me. He got them sharp elbows. Yeah. Like the kid. Man, what?
21:39Shannon Sharpe:That's what, you remember what you call him? Karl Malone did that to Zeke. Zeke came down the lane with a layup, put 44 stitches over his eye.
21:48Joe Johnson:44?
21:49Shannon Sharpe:Yep.
21:51Joe Johnson:Yeah, Joe, you might have to wash my elbows when we play, huh?
21:54Chad Johnson:You too little, partner.
21:57Joe Johnson:Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you might well call me Ocho Ratliff, bro.
22:04Joe Johnson:There's our third video.
22:07Chad Johnson:Appreciate you, Nightcap. But, Unc, I'm still disappointed the way you treated that Josh Allen loss. Disappointed. Put your big boy pants on. You need to talk about that. Again, for real.
22:22Shannon Sharpe:Damn, what happened with Josh Allen? Joe, Ocho, we said he had five turnovers. When you're that guy, you can't turn the ball over five times. I said before he turned it over, Ocho, before, he missed the throw. He had a guy wide open. Yeah. And he missed him. Going to the left. Yes, on the over route.
22:41Joe Johnson:On the over route, yeah.
22:42Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, we talked about ad nauseum about Josh Allen playing small. At the end of the day, yes, we know he hadn't had a whole lot of turnovers in the postseason. he's done a great job but not this game i don't know what you want what you want from me what what guys you want more from me he didn't play well we spoke he was the reason that they lost yeah but that wasn't good enough so what you want me to say they should cut it okay buffalo cut josh allen cut it i mean ain't no way to back i know where he should be your quarterback after the way he played, that's unacceptable. I don't know what y 'all want me to say.
23:30Shannon Sharpe:I mean, Ocho, what you got for me, Ocho?
23:32Joe Johnson:I mean, listen, I don't know. I don't know exactly what he wants. Maybe a delivery, maybe the energy in which you criticize him, maybe they want it a little better. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. The reason why I love the game is because of Josh Allen
23:45Shannon Sharpe:turnovers. And I know he hadn't turned him. And I say it. I know Josh hadn't had a whole lot of turnovers in the postseason. He's been I'm really good about that. But not today. I'm not talking about the previous game. I'm talking about today. He had five. He had five fumbles right before the half that led to three points. Interceptions. I know James Cook had a fumble. But Josh Allen, you got the ball in your hands the majority of the time. You cannot play like you played today. We said that. yeah and until he gets over that hump we thought this was going to be his year and everybody else's year because what the guy that stood at the gate and kept everybody away he was out he was out he was hurt yeah
24:42I don't know
24:45Shannon Sharpe:here's our fourth one hey on Ocho ISO congratulations on 2 million subscribers i'm super happy for you guys i'm glad to say i've been here since about january 2024 and i love the content you guys it's great can you guys please give my mom a shout out some prayers she's going through breast cancer right now she's getting towards the end of it um her name is barbara please give her a shout out also shout out my dad who's been her rock uh he's going to be by her when she does her surgery and she can't lift her arms so he'll be there the whole time um his name is johnny and then give a shout out to my sisters d and aisha and my wife lorana they've been amazing helping out my mom give them awesome love please and also please come back to california for your live show we'll be excited to see you guys
25:37Shannon Sharpe:barbara f cancer stand strong johnny uh your son said you've been the rock you've been by her and you're going to be by her while she goes through this and through your love and support and your prayers she's going to be able to get through this to the to the daughters um i think d and aisha i think that's what he said their names were uh uh and if i'm wrong i apologize but congrats but thank you guys for being there for your mom this i'm sure this means the word world to her that you guys have been the rock and been the foundation because this is a very a very troubling time and probably something that she's never had to go through before, but she's not going through this alone because she has somebody that says high looks low, but she also has somebody that's eye level, which is her family, her husband and her kids.
26:26Shannon Sharpe:And thanks to your prayers and the man above that's watching over her, Barbara is going to be just fine. Johnny, we can't thank you enough because, bro, I understand when family goes through things and sometimes it's even harder on the family than with the individual that's actually going through it.
26:43Chad Johnson:Ooh.
26:44Shannon Sharpe:Because you know why? Because ain't nothing they can do. There's nothing worse than feeling helpless in a situation. Man. When your kid's going through something, Ocho, like what's wrong? Why are you crying? You don't know if it's a stomachache, you don't know if it's teething, you don't know, what is bothering you?
27:03Chad Johnson:Damn. Ocho.
27:07Joe Johnson:What's up, what? What happened to him? I don't know. I think something messaged there but I think we still got to chat live again prayers of Miss Barbara Johnny and all family members we will keep on our prayers hopefully everything is rectified in that situation cancer does suck and I hope everything comes out good on that end what we do from here Joe hey Let's look at our last video
28:07Shannon Sharpe:for me. I call that y 'all.
28:11Joe Johnson:That's a good one, especially for me, obviously, who I played with in college and obviously the NFL, T.J. Houshmandzada. I think T.J. Houshmandzada is a huge reason for my success, being that he was able to take some of the attention away from me sometime during those games. He was really, really good being able to manipulate routes, intermediate, short, whether he played on the outside, whether he played on the inside. He was a master. He was a master at his craft. and what he did, and I think most of my success comes because of the attention that he took off of me at times. So that would be my one teammate who's underrated that doesn't get the credit he deserves being that guy.
28:52Chad Johnson:Man, I got two, Ocho. I got two unique guys who played, I would probably say, the same position, and that's Sean Marion and Josh Smith. Yeah, and Josh Smith. Two dudes who I was very close with. You know, Sean, early in my career, especially playing in Phoenix, he showed me the ropes, showed me how to be a pro. He got a lot of family in Arkansas, so he came to Arkansas a lot and spent a lot of time together. Same with Josh Smith. He's like a little brother to me, bro. Like, I know his family well, his pops, his mom. He's also came to Arkansas and hung out with me numerous times. So, you know, I built a bond with those two cats, bro, from playing with them over the years and just having a lot of fun.
29:41Chad Johnson:And man, we had some special times together, bro.
29:48Joe Johnson:Oh, you back?
29:49Shannon Sharpe:I'm back.
29:50Joe Johnson:What's up, what? Where you been at, twin?
29:52Shannon Sharpe:You know, God don't give you the patience that you ask for. He puts you in situations that requires patience. There you go. Yes, sir. So, you know, unfortunately we had a situation as you were. It died. Nobody's at fault. At least as far as I can tell. Because you best believe if they were at fault. This stuff would not have gone well.
30:15Joe Johnson:Yeah, yeah, stuff happened, huh? Stuff happened, man. You know, it's cool. Oh, Lord.
30:20Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. If I'm not mistaken, I think he asked your teammate that you think was the least what? Underrated. He doesn't get the credit he deserves, but he's underrated. I think Rod Smith. Yeah. Yeah. I think Fuss don't get the credit that he deserves. You know, he played in the era where you had Marvin Harrison and you had Reggie Wayne and you had Torrey Holst and you had T.O. and Randy Moss. But he led the league in receiving. He's an all-pro, multiple Pro Bowls. He just played big for us. And to come in as an undrafted free agent,
31:02Chad Johnson:Yeah.
31:04Shannon Sharpe:Be on the practice squad. And then his first catch is a game winner over Darryl Green. And to turn himself, he's the all-time leading receiver in Broncos history. I think. Now, maybe. No, I think. No, I don't think DT caught him. I don't think DT caught him. I think he still has the most catches in Broncos history. But I definitely think Rod Smith Foots is the most underrated player that I played with.
31:35Shannon Sharpe:Jacob Mota much love nightcap fam just brought just thought about for a nightcap outside episode goat Jeremy Wade Ocho are country boys Ocho thinks he can swim with orcas so why not hit the waters with the goat himself you know Jeremy Wade Ocho isn't he like some kind of doesn't he what is he on like National Geographic or something
32:00Joe Johnson:I'm not sure Sure, but when it comes to swimming, I'm like a dolphin out there.
32:07Chad Johnson:I'll smoke you in swimming.
32:09Joe Johnson:Oh, God, here we go.
32:10Chad Johnson:I already know you're going to be like, oh, it's because you tall. Joe, you will not beat me.
32:16Shannon Sharpe:Okay, they be fishing. They be catching. Okay, River Monsters. You know who be catching all them fish? They got teeth and all kind of stuff?
32:23Joe Johnson:Yeah, hey, Joe, I'm a swimmer now, Joe. Huh? You asked about me, Joe. Liberty City, Charles Hadley Championship. You on a swim team? Huh? We made swim teams out there in the hood, Joe. Huh? Off the high dive. I could dive. I mean, whatever you want. Back flip. I mean, with somersault, what you want, Joe? I give you anything. In the ocean, Joe. Joe, this ain't in the lake. It don't matter where it's at. We got gators in the lake. We take that chance. I'm out swimming gators, Joe, in the canal at Opelaka.
32:55Chad Johnson:Honk, I see why you got him on here, Honk. I see why you got him on here with you, Honk. I see why you got him on here.
33:03Joe Johnson:Huh? What you talking about, Joe? This what I do, Joe. You talking about swimming. Joe, you can barely beat me in basketball. Talking about swimming. Stop playing with me, Joe. Don't play on my top like that. This what I do.
33:16Shannon Sharpe:Bossman said, what's a time your family humbled you when your success got high? Also, was your grandfather a big man? Joe, Ocho, what did your family do to humble you when you were at the peak of your success?
33:32Chad Johnson:I ain't going to lie. Okay, Ocho, I've been a humble individual since I can remember, bro. I think it's because, you know, that only child syndrome. I ain't, you know, never, never, my britches never got too big to where I disrespected, you know, anybody in the family, no matter what I had or didn't have. I always respect everybody, bro. I can't, I've never, I can't say I've never got humble, but i've never done nothing you know to be humble to where hey man you need to chill out nah
34:04Joe Johnson:yeah i i was i was never like that i mean obviously those that know me personally uh you you you you would think the perception being being controlled by the media uh the way i was on the field was that was merely a character the the villain and the fun and the antics that was that was just a character that i displayed on sundays off the field i'm nothing like that I'm completely different. So there really was no need for me to actually be humbled. I think God humbled me in a sense where he wanted me to slow down in other areas that had nothing to do with football.
34:34Chad Johnson:Right.
34:36Joe Johnson:He did that and he set my black ass down. Outside of that, as far as just having to be humble when it comes to family, I was always there. I was always there, especially for them in times of need. I didn't allow anyone to take advantage of me. But, you know, where I saw fit and need to give, I did do that.
34:58Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. I agree with both of you guys. I mean, for me, you know, y 'all know how I speak about my grandmother. It wasn't nothing. I mean, she tell me to take the trash out and go cut the grass. I'm like, huh? Cut the grass?
35:16Shannon Sharpe:I'm going to go jump on that lawnmower. Hey, I cut the front. Libby, you got to cut the back. I'm like, dang. You got to pay for the house and cut the grass? Lawnmower?
35:32Chad Johnson:Hey, I got my grandpa that riding lawnmowers. Yeah. He ain't want no help.
35:39Shannon Sharpe:Hey, I brought my sister a John Deere. That one ran out, got a snapper.
35:44Chad Johnson:Yeah.
35:45Shannon Sharpe:I have to say, you want a zero turn? What? You got me. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. That's something I've always been. I mean, I know people think, you know, the way I talk on here, but when I'm around family, I'm even killed. I don't yell and scream. I mean, yeah, I have an abrasive personality. But when I'm around family, when I'm around people, this is – I'm different when I'm around family. Yeah. Because I'm the same. Because I'm, you know, the guy, Mr. Joe, his sons, when they see me, they hadn't seen me in a long time. Joe, I'm at the peak of my career. I'm a Super Bowl champ. They still call me Pee-wee.
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37:40Shannon Sharpe:Most of my family called me Shane. But the people that I work for, when they see me, they still call me Pee Wee. Bro, that would have been 50 years ago. Yeah. So, I ain't got that. Since the kid, what's up? Unc, Ocho, King, Iso, and still, congrats on two million subs. Which four athletes from your hometown do you put on Mount Rushmore? Unc, Glenville, Atlanta, Ocho, Miami, Joe Little Rock.
38:09Chad Johnson:I'll go first. Mine ain't hard. You got Scottie Pippen. You got Derrick Fisher. You got Corliss Williamson. Sidney Moncrief. Damn. Yeah. I can't move. Who you got?
38:30Shannon Sharpe:My hometown. I think me and my brother, we got to occupy two of those spots. You and your brother. Oh, we got two of those spots. Atlanta. Damn. Cam.
38:50Chad Johnson:Ooh.
38:56Chad Johnson:Boy, this is a melting pot here. They got so much talent. Hell yeah. It ain't funny.
39:00Shannon Sharpe:And I go, you know what? I go Cam and Dwight Howard.
39:04Joe Johnson:Okay. I like that.
39:07Shannon Sharpe:Damn.
39:07Joe Johnson:Liberty City Antonio Brown Andre Johnson oh it's so many from down here man
39:23god damn it's so many it might do I throw myself in there I know yeah you can
39:33Joe Johnson:Yeah, I'm going to throw myself in there, man. Dade County legend. Liberty City's own. One more. One more. I mean, there's so many still playing now. Trying to think who else. I mean, McGahee. Shoot. Hey, Frank Gore.
39:52Shannon Sharpe:Okay. Frank Gore. Tony O. Hey, fellas. Got a workout question. I'm 5 '10", weigh 208. I can Mac bench 315, unassisted. I've been working out since I was 13. I'm 42 now. What should I expect? When should I expect to start losing strength? How old are you now? Oh, you're 42. 42.
40:14Chad Johnson:Yeah, if you keep going, you won't necessarily lose strength. You just got to be consistent.
40:19Shannon Sharpe:I think I started really like, man, you hit that goddamn 50.
40:25Chad Johnson:Oh, man.
40:26Shannon Sharpe:Man, it's like they kick you in the ass, hit you in the head.
40:31Joe Johnson:damn I ain't like I'm still getting stronger
40:36Shannon Sharpe:up until I was 50 I mean even hold on I'm trying to think in 22 so 22 that was four years ago 54 I still could bench about 450 yeah 455 460 yeah about me too but man I just got tired of being sore man I can't sleep on my shoulders my shoulders aching yeah I said man I shouldn't have to feel like this. And I stopped benching heavy. I stopped – because I used to be – I don't do nothing but Smith machine now.
41:08Chad Johnson:Yeah.
41:09Shannon Sharpe:Because before I was doing free bench.
41:11Chad Johnson:Yeah.
41:13Shannon Sharpe:I'm done with that. I might get back. Because they got a couple of guys out there talking reckless, talking about we can't beat them in nothing. I ain't going to say no name. I think he on fourth and one. Maybe third and three or second and two. but if you want to go into that weight room you need to come see me hey hey i'm right there with you too huh okay right there which too you you hey you take peggy huh nah i want cam you want cam what what hello what me and peggy go do what peggy go do i i don't know but listen i'm i'm i've never
41:50Joe Johnson:been this sad before joe i've never been this sad i'm not a big guy i'm not a big guy but i'm i'm just saying right now i'm i'm i'm at a point in life where i'm like well damn i'm filled out my body you know the only thing wrong with me is my shoulders you know they're not wide like i want them so i'm like kind of aerodynamic but everything else i'm chiseled my arm that got big no you got
42:11Shannon Sharpe:put them caps on there you gotta start doing some side laterals you gotta start doing that thing so you hold it up and then you come down one two yeah yeah okay okay okay then they're east that
42:22Joe Johnson:thing off yeah i'm gonna try that i'm gonna try that yeah i i got strong real dips yeah and you know i'm getting ready for the summer now yeah oh yeah i'll be right there with you
42:34Shannon Sharpe:yeah i'm getting ready for something right there with you hey i'll build somebody balcony
42:42oh yeah i'll be on somebody balcony acting a fool uh pierre coffee said crazy i i
42:52Shannon Sharpe:I have the same birthday as the great Sterling Shark. Would mean a lot if you could give us a happy birthday shout-out. I'm 28. Y 'all are really the unks. I never knew I needed. Yes, yes. Happy birthday, Pierre. I appreciate that. Yeah, I called my brother today, man. He wasn't doing it. I was like, bro, you ain't doing nothing. You ain't on the golf course. He's like, nah, man, I'm just chilling. I'm just chilling. I say, so all right, bro. But, you know, happy birthday, man. April 6th, man. I called him early this morning, wished him happy birthday. He was like excited. Like, man, you and Ocho and Iso, y 'all doing y 'all thing, man.
43:25Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all doing y 'all thing, man. Oh, yeah. I said, y 'all ain't going to have the boy back on no more. I said, man, you got to open everybody. Anytime you want to come, bro, come over.
43:36Shannon Sharpe:Titan guy, what's up, Ocho and Iso? Can you guys wish my mom, Earlene, a happy birthday? Absolutely, Titan guy. Earlene, happy birthday.
43:47Chad Johnson:Happy birthday.
43:48Shannon Sharpe:I went to a high school with a lady named, her name was Earlene Faith. Yeah. We were in the same class, yeah.
43:54Joe Johnson:Hey, you never know. Ask them if that's her last name.
44:00Shannon Sharpe:Happy birthday to you. I doubt it.
44:03Joe Johnson:I think. Happy birthday to you.
44:09Shannon Sharpe:Brendan Crowe, what's up, Nightcap? What's your favorite moment on the show in the last few years and did you guys envision the show growing to what it is and what it has. We did envision, but just not this quick. Yeah. Mm. Because the original premise of the show, Ocho and I was going to do a quick recap. The show was only supposed to be 30 minutes long. Yeah. 45 at the absolute max, but mainly 30 minutes. Really? So Ocho and I were going to take the three big games, the Sunday night game. So we do Sunday. Let's just say we do Sundays. We're going to take the Sunday night game. We're going to take the big game on Fox.
44:49Shannon Sharpe:We're going to take the big game on CBS. And then we'll talk about another game that was important. We were going to decide, okay, Ocho. If we couldn't decide on one, we would take two games. So really, theoretically, we were only supposed to talk about four. Now, four was the absolute max. Five was the absolute max, but mainly three to four games.
45:09Chad Johnson:Yeah.
45:11Shannon Sharpe:And then somehow, Ocho made me tell one story. It did, that was all she wrote. And Joe, it was downhill from there. It was downhill from there. And it's like, man, you guys need to start to stick to football. And the people are like, man, we need more stories. We need more stories. And so according to term, come for the sports,
45:36Chad Johnson:but stay for the stories.
45:38Shannon Sharpe:and now over two hours three hours yes yes yes but in the original in the original format the show was only supposed to be 30 minutes on the low end the absolute max the show was supposed to be was 40 minutes 45 minutes it was and yeah one time to do the show three days a week so the show was going to come on mondays thursdays and sundays that was the only time the show was supposed to come on so we were gonna follow nfl we had no idea like okay then we like what about when football go off like okay i guess hey and so here we are and you know we started talking track and field like oh like man i like track and field his daughters run track yeah i love track and field it's my favorite sport to sit down and watch.
46:32Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. And we were able to parlay that. And we got young men and women coming on talking about it. We got a ride come on and we got me. We had some, we got Vernon Norwood. We got the team that came on Shamir little. And we had all those people coming on and we have guys that broke record swimming. And so it's, it's turning to this. Yes. Yes, Ocho and I thought, we thought that it was going to take us about three years. I said, Ocho, let's give it three years. I think in three years, we'll grow because we started from scratch. Yeah. I mean, 100 people, 200 people, but Akron J-Dub, he was one of the first guys.
47:13Shannon Sharpe:Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy was another one. Laney Ray, she was another one. So we had a core group. I remember looking down, I was like, damn, we got 300 people in the chat. Okay. We got 300 people, Ocho. And then that was a Sunday night. And then Monday, like, Ocho, we got 1 ,000. We got 1 ,500. And then it just grew and grew and grew. And I just remember having a conversation with Ocho as we started to build and, you know, we started to get 10 ,000 and 15 and 20 ,000. And in the postseason, we ended up almost having 100 ,000 in the chat. I said, you know we're not going to be the only ones in this space anymore, right?
47:48Shannon Sharpe:He's like, I said, nah. I said, people, because we were the only ones in this space. Nobody else did this at night. Everybody came on during the day. That's why we did it at night. And we do have a lot of other people in the space, and congratulations. But this is what Ocho and I, when we sat down and had a conversation, I said, I think it's going to take us about three years, but I think we can be good at it.
48:13Chad Johnson:Hey, I got a question. So when you left Fox, you already knew you wanted to do Nightcap? You already had the name Nightcap and all that? Nope.
48:25Shannon Sharpe:when I left, the only thing that I was able to leave with when I left Nightcap was Club Shea Shea because I had that written to my contract because if I didn't have that written to my contract, Fox would have got to keep Club Shea Shea. Even if they let me. Now I would have had to share the revenue with them. So I'd have had to do everything and they would have got to share the revenue. But it was written in my contract. I got all intellectual property of Club Shea Shea. The image, everything, the catalog that was before that, I got that.
48:52Chad Johnson:Yeah.
48:53Shannon Sharpe:And talking to people, YouTube rewards frequency. The only thing is I can only do Club Shay Shay once a week. So we had to come up with another thing. Now, mind you, I left Fox. Ash was still at Fox. I had told Ash, I said, Ash, if I ever do something on my own, I want to take you with me.
49:15Chad Johnson:Yeah.
49:15Shannon Sharpe:She gung-ho. She don't know the better. Okay, I'll go.
49:22so
49:24Shannon Sharpe:what happened at Fox and I leave so she called me say what are you doing I said I don't know I said I just know that hey I would like for you to come with me she's like okay I said I don't know what I'm gonna do but I want you to come with me she said okay she put her two weeks in and I had I would pay it out of my pocket I ain't have no job. And next thing you know, I get picked up by ESPN. She's going to be my producer. I said, no, I got my own producer.
49:57Chad Johnson:Yeah.
49:58Shannon Sharpe:And then CJ. I said, CJ, look, bro, Club Shay Shay is not going to work without you. I said, you and I started this thing in 2020. He's like, okay. So I started paying them out of my pocket. So that's how it happened, Joe. But no, there was no nightcap. when we started we didn't think of nightcap didn't come to be until like what like august like damn near september we lost the first week of september it happened i think i talked i think ocho and i got together like two weeks before the initial launch it wasn't gonna be no nightcap because i didn't have no gas i didn't have no host i didn't have no calls yeah hey hey hey joe i went to LA and he pitched me the idea.
50:43Chad Johnson:Yeah.
50:44Joe Johnson:I said, yeah, I'm good. Okay, let's go. That's it. Hey, all you need was five minutes. I ain't got time to be sitting in no business meeting, you know, going over logistics and all that. You want to do a show? Okay, I'm in. That's it. I went outside and spoke. That's what he said.
51:00Shannon Sharpe:I'm like, well, you already know the idea. He's like, oh, if you do it, I know it's going to be successful.
51:05Joe Johnson:Yeah, I know it's going to be good.
51:07Shannon Sharpe:So that was it. And so once we got Ocho, once I got Ocho, I had a producer in Ash. Boom. And the rest is, as they say, history. That's really, we basically put this show together in two weeks. Now we've evolved. We got producers. We got graphics. We got editors. We have all these things that's housed up under this. But in the beginning, it was just Ash. And, you know, we talking about the games. and Ocho and I were doing what we did.
51:43Shannon Sharpe:Jose Jorge Castillo up. For five million cash would you rather go number two and use a port-a-potty? Lord have mercy. Damn.
51:54Chad Johnson:Yeah you'll do it for five million cash. Wait to do what? Go into port-a-potty. Take a deuce and a port-a-potty. Ocho do it for 200. I do that. If I got to go, I'm doing that for free.
52:07Joe Johnson:In a porta potty? Yeah, Joe.
52:11Shannon Sharpe:Nah, nah, nah.
52:12Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe, you don't sit on it, Joe. You got to squat. Joe, like, you know you got to squat like this.
52:18Shannon Sharpe:Man, my knees, I got to sit all the way down. Oh, you can't do that? Man, they have to pry me up out of there, old Joe.
52:24Joe Johnson:OK, I got you. I got you, Joe. I got you. Well, hold on. You just got to sit there. You ain't got to squat down. Just kneel a little bit.
52:31Shannon Sharpe:That's it? For five million? Yeah, I'm going to have to go on and use the port-a-potty. Yeah. I've never actually sat down on one. I've never had to do number two of the port-a-potty.
52:45Joe Johnson:Yeah. Normally, you just got to pee-pee. That's it.
52:47Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they just smell horrific. They just terrible. Yeah. I just kind of tell. I mean, you know, when you go to the airport bathroom, and all the urinals are taken, and you go to one of the ones that you sit down and somebody ain't even flushed. I said, God damn.
53:12Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all can't even flush the toilet. I said, y 'all buy some nasty mofos. I said, man, forget that. I can't. I just wait.
53:22Chad Johnson:That's why I don't like eating when I travel, because, boy, that's the last thing I want to do is have to use that bathroom in the airport. Hey.
53:28Shannon Sharpe:Hey, I'm very particular what I eat. I don't deal with no fruit the boy fruit go through me Joe
53:36Joe Johnson:what ain't nothing worse I'm assuming y 'all don't do number two in public but ain't nothing worse what about you Joe I'd rather go in the woods
53:47Chad Johnson:Ocho let me tell you something my daughter had a volleyball game a couple weeks ago and boy that deuce jumped down on me I'm talking about Ocho we 35 40 minutes away from the house ojo yeah but it was a tournament so she had like three games oh yeah you you stuck boy i drove home yeah y 'all so you drove all the way home thank you joe see y 'all now i ain't the only crazy one thank you joe i drove home hey boy something wrong with y 'all man
54:19Joe Johnson:now the only problem i had it happened every blue moon now every blue moon so what i got to do is most of the time if you squat over the toilet sometimes when it come out and it hit the water it splash up and hits you in the ass again. I don't like, I call that the teardrop. I don't like the teardrop. That's one of the worst things about using the bathroom in public is that water, you know, that toilet water catching you when your stuff fall in the
54:44Shannon Sharpe:I don't like that. Look, I've been Joe and Ocho, I ain't never told this before. I've been driving home from Atlanta going to Glenville. So you know you're on 16. Yeah. Joe, I done pulled side of the road, put the hazards on all my cars. I got toilet paper in there with me. I got a roll of toilet paper. Damn, huh? I put the hazards on, pulled side of the roads, and went in the woods.
55:08Chad Johnson:Get out of here. I swear to God.
55:13Chad Johnson:Hey, listen, I'm going to tell you. I got to be comfortable, boy, when I drop that deuce on. Yeah, hey,
55:19Shannon Sharpe:that's how I am. I take all my clothes off. I don't want nothing around my ankles. I need to be
55:28I was...
55:30Chad Johnson:Hell no. Hey, cause sometimes you might have to hop right in the shower after that joint. Oh yeah.
55:37Shannon Sharpe:Hey, y 'all, y 'all, y 'all... Joe, when you go to the hotel, when you just get to the hotel, do you get in the bed or do you take a shower? What you mean? When you go to a hotel, you go to a hotel, you just got off the plane, you travel, you get to your hotel, No, no, no, no.
55:54Chad Johnson:I gotta get that flight up off me. I gotta get that flight up off me.
55:57Shannon Sharpe:Thank you!
55:58Joe Johnson:This nasty N-word right here, go in the bed, he don't take no shower. I'm going right to sleep. I'm going right to sleep. Thank you! Hey, listen. I gotta get that flight off me. I'm going right to sleep. No, I'm not. Hey, listen. You washing every goddamn skin follicle off you. That ain't healthy. No. That ain't healthy. Thank you, Joe. Thank you. Nah. Thank you. I'm going to bed. I take a shower. Joe, I take me a shower in the morning.
56:27Chad Johnson:Oh, Joe, you take a deuce on the plane? Absolutely. In the little spa joint?
56:34Joe Johnson:Yeah. No, sir. I'm just saying, if circumstances, if it comes to that, Joe, I'm using the bathroom anyway. My homeboy house and my girl house. Oh, no, no, no. You're not doing it. I don't care about, man. Don't nobody do no deuces with me. No? No. Yeah, hey, Joe, I don't care where I'm at, Joe. Boy, I'm finna get it in. Yeah, I'm not gonna sit down now. I ain't gonna sit down. I'm gonna squat. I got a good squat game. You can lace the toilet. You don't lace the toilet with tissue and all that? No, I ain't got time for that, Joe. I ain't got time.
57:07Shannon Sharpe:Oh, man.
57:08Joe Johnson:I'm gonna just squat over it. I ain't gonna touch it. I ain't gonna touch it. What I do hate, I hate the back splash. I call the back splash the teardrop.
57:16Shannon Sharpe:Well, ain't no way.
57:17Joe Johnson:Yeah, you know that water, that water catch you.
57:19Shannon Sharpe:I can't do it. I had a guest house when I was in LA. If I had somebody over, I'd go to the guest house.
57:30Joe Johnson:Y 'all ain't got time to be doing all that, man. Joe talking about these, Joe, 30, 45 minutes. Just to do the bathroom. I promise you, Ocho.
57:38Shannon Sharpe:I don't do nothing. I cut the water. Even if I'm going to pee, I cut the water on. I don't want nobody hearing me peeing. I don't want to hear nobody peeing. Yeah. 30 be nasty.
57:47Chad Johnson:Yeah, 30, 40 minutes, Ocho. Y 'all tripping, man. Thank you, Joe.
57:50Shannon Sharpe:Thank you. I've driven all the way home from the gym too, Joe. Absolutely. Y 'all tripping. I'm talking about stomach hurting and everything.
57:58Chad Johnson:They're thinking a nut.
57:58Shannon Sharpe:Yes, thank you, Joe. Thank you. Y 'all tripping. This is why I rock with you. I knew it was something. I said something about Joe. Yeah, yeah.
58:07Chad Johnson:Y 'all ain't living.
58:08Joe Johnson:Y 'all are alive, but y 'all ain't living.
58:10Chad Johnson:Man, please. You know at them volleyball games, man, there's kids running around. They in and out the bathroom. Come on, man. I can't get comfortable. Hey, Joe, the stall ain't open.
58:18Joe Johnson:You close the door. Hey, and listen, Joe, you know what you can do? This is what happened. Let's say you're at the volleyball game, right? You know it's a lot of kids. There's a lot of traffic going in and out of the bathroom. You know what? I really don't want nobody to see me. Take your pants down to your ankles, right? You hear me? And just inside, sit on the toilet, dress your toilet up, right? So can't nobody see? Huh?
58:40Chad Johnson:Yeah. Keep your feet up like this. Oh, no. I gotta be comfortable. I gotta be comfortable. How can you take a deuce like that with your leg and height stuff like that? Man, I need to be comfortable, bro. I'm sorry.
58:52Joe Johnson:But Joe, it's no different than when she eats it. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
58:57Shannon Sharpe:That's how I am, Joe. Joe like me. That's Joe. Me, that's how I am. Because I eat healthy. So normally, I have a pile. I have a hot down off it.
59:10Chad Johnson:Oh, Joe. Oh, Joe. You height your leg up like that when she go down and do her thing? Joe She eat your ass Joe I don't do all that
59:22Joe Johnson:Joe what y 'all doing
59:24Chad Johnson:Hey Joe
59:25Shannon Sharpe:Hey Joe This with me and Joe part ways This with me and Joe Me and Joe part ways
59:34Joe Johnson:I gotta separate from you Joe Hey Joe Hey Joe listen If you're not comfortable with your legs up You can bend over and you just open up things up for us. Go that way, Joe.
59:46Chad Johnson:Hey, hold on, hold on, hold on. Why are we speaking? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
59:50Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, hold on now. What happened? I will sign with you.
59:53Chad Johnson:You talking about like you getting waxed. Hold on. Listen. Oh, you talking about a wax? Yeah. That's how you acting. No, I ain't talking about no wax. He said, hey, look, I got a homeboy because he like that type of stuff too. I said, man, so how you doing? You just hiked your legs up in the air like that when she got on? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Joe, yeah. That man say he do just what Ocho just did, or he turn around, bend over. Yeah, yeah.
1:00:20Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah, yeah. Ocho, hey, Joe, I mean me, Joe, so I was Joe 95 % of the time, Ocho. You got him on your side, 5 % of the time. Yeah, there we go, that's what I'm talking about,
1:00:30Joe Johnson:that's what I'm talking about. Hey, Joe, we gonna get you there, Joe. No, no, no. Hey, y 'all let somebody go in your dukey shoe. Yeah, hey, hey, you ain't never had no colonoscopy?
1:00:41Chad Johnson:you ain't never had no colonoscopy i haven't um hey hey and i'm in my mid-40s i need to go get one but i ain't yeah yeah you gotta go to get one joe hey hold on joe before you get one let before you
1:00:52Joe Johnson:get one hey hey woman you know have a practice have a practice no no no no no lay on your belly
1:00:58Chad Johnson:joe just you gotta relax you gotta breathe we do wait wait we freaking up over here we don't need
1:01:02Joe Johnson:all hey hey joe hey joe joe don't don't be scared joe tell it tell her use the thumb tell her use Oh, no, come on. Oh, Joe. Oh, Joe.
1:01:17Shannon Sharpe:Use the thumb. Hey, Joe.
1:01:32Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe. You ain't living Joe.
1:01:36Shannon Sharpe:They got you just like that. Right there, Joe. You gonna be, hey, you gonna do it. trying to get away Joe. Hey, I got you locked me.
1:01:46Chad Johnson:Oh, she put a thumb in his booty and everything. I'm John.
1:01:51Joe Johnson:Whoa, whoa, whoa. Joe, I'm trying to get you ready, Joe. I'm trying to get you ready for the colonoscopy. No, I'm good. Oh, Joe. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe, they call it a spread. He was just spread. Eagle man. Just know. Hey, cover your eyes like this, Joe.
1:02:09Chad Johnson:No, sir. I'm sorry, Ocho. Y 'all got me on this one.
1:02:13Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all got me on this one. Hey, Joe, you think I'm in the military? I be on my hands. I be crawling like this. I be trying to get away, Joe. Try to get away.
1:02:31Man.
1:02:32Shannon Sharpe:Oh man, hold on. Unc Ocho Iso give you boy a shout out. I just finished my last class. We're receiving my master's degree in information technology. If y 'all free, come celebrate with your boy May 14th in Maryland, University of Maryland, GC. I don't know what that is. Hey, Berry Gang, man, congratulations, bro. That's a huge, huge accomplishment, bro. A master's degree, information technology. Congrats, congrats. Congratulations, bro. We're proud of you here at Nightcap. Ron, for me, can we get a little boosty on the show for the playoffs? All right, so what's your top three fragrances? Nightcap outside should go mud riding with a four-wheeler.
1:03:16Chad Johnson:Man, y 'all ever smelt that Tom Ford fucking fabulous? What's that, cologne? That's what you're talking about, ain't it, huh? Yes, yes. Tom Ford got a fragrance. It's called fucking fabulous. I got it. It's good. It's nice. Joe? She won't stay off you, old Joe.
1:03:37Joe Johnson:Damn. Let me... Okay. Okay. Tom Ford. Let me Google this. Let me see how much it is first. If it's too much, don't worry about it. It's coming to Black Bottom.
1:03:50Chad Johnson:Another one is
1:03:54Chad Johnson:called Million Dollar. I don't know if y 'all ever heard of that. Million Dollar Worth of Game.
1:04:00Joe Johnson:The gold bottle and the gold bottle.
1:04:02Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:04:03Joe Johnson:I know what you're talking about.
1:04:04Chad Johnson:That's a good one. One more. God damn, Joe. What?
1:04:10Joe Johnson:The damn bottle cost$500.
1:04:13Chad Johnson:You asked me for the fragrance, bro. It's five, Ocho. I promise you.
1:04:22Joe Johnson:Man, that's the travel ounce too. 3.4 ounces. $500, man. Man, shit. Hell nah.
1:04:33Shannon Sharpe:Man, look here. Man, if I wouldn't wear cologne, somebody's gonna slap fire to me because I ain't wore cologne since 86. What you use, oils, aunt? That's it. Just shower gel.
1:04:44Joe Johnson:Yeah, okay, okay, okay.
1:04:45Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah? Yeah, I like a little smell good. Ask somebody, you smell like mouthwash.
1:04:57Shannon Sharpe:That's what the lady at Fox told me. They said when people asked me, man, what does Shannon Sharp smell like? Mouthwash. Hey, hey, because that's probably a peppy of yours, bad breath, ain't it? Boy, hey. Well, all you done talked me out of it. I used to brush my teeth about 10 times a day. I'm down to about six. Yeah, that's enough. Six is enough. 10? I mean, that's just. Yo, I got me a big old bottle. I got me a big old bottle of Listerine about this big.
1:05:29Chad Johnson:You get it from Costco, huh? Uh, Sam's?
1:05:32Shannon Sharpe:Yep.
1:05:33Chad Johnson:I'm saying you talking to somebody else, and they got bad breath. Boy, that's the thing. Oh, man. I'm like, is that me or you? Hey, that's a turn off, boy. Hey.
1:05:45Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah. Yeah. Woo. No, somebody gave me I mean, normally I get cologne I don't do cologne, so Bucket got a bunch of cologne Like I said, I haven't The last cologne that I bought was Obsession by Calvin Klein Mmm Damn, what year was that, huh? Like 86, 87 Obsession was the burgundy bottle Nah, it was a clear bottle See if Calvin Klein still make Obsession I could have swore
1:06:15Chad Johnson:I could have swore it was burgundy like a maroon. Hey, one more. Versace. Versace, it come in a... Because they got so many. They got one in like a... It's like a blue bottle. Five. Five.
1:06:31Shannon Sharpe:That Creed, I guess Creed is a very popular cologne. Yeah, it is.
1:06:35Joe Johnson:They got too many though, huh? Okay, dude, they got a lot. You go look to buy Creed, they got 500 different goddamn fragrances. I'm like, what the hell?
1:06:46Shannon Sharpe:Joe?
1:06:47Chad Johnson:Joe will have to get Lil Boosie to come on nightcap. Yeah, I'll probably see him at a house game here recently. You know, he always at the house game. Hey, when you going to the game, Joe? I'm probably going to go to one of these ones coming up, Ocho. Unc, let me know if you plan on being around or anything like that. I definitely will. I'll make sure we got our feet on the wood. You know, we'll be good.
1:07:08Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe, listen, listen, listen. Who was that? Who was that? Hey, no, no, no, no. Look, TSA ain't no struggles right now, so I'm going to come. Hey, Joe, you hear me? I got my old money, Joe. Just let your boy come on down there with you, baby. You got a nice little bankroll over there, don't you, man?
1:07:25Shannon Sharpe:Let's buy a quick little$30 ,000. Well, go and send me my$50 ,000 so Joe, me and Joe have something to throw. We're going to see them 70-year-olds. Look, a little$30 ,000 real quick.
1:07:35Chad Johnson:We can use the Magic City. Damn, that man just throwing money out there in your face. Okay, he ain't getting it. You notice that?
1:07:41Shannon Sharpe:That's crazy. Look quick. Hey, Joe. Oh, Joe. Joe owe you$500 because you have Michigan. Oh, hey. Who? Huh?
1:07:51Chad Johnson:We ain't bet. He ain't want to bet. We did bet. What we bet? We bet$500. We bet$500. Yeah, you know we bet$500. I got to see the footage. Run the footage back. I don't even remember that.
1:08:04Joe Johnson:We going to pull the footage. Hey, run me my money. You going to catch these hands. I know that.
1:08:09Chad Johnson:Hey, who over there snitching too? Somebody over there snitching. Who over there snitching?
1:08:13Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe, hold on.
1:08:14Shannon Sharpe:Did you think I forgot who that? First of all, Ocho, you owe me a 11.8. So just take 500 off that, Joe. You good. You owe me 11.3 now. Hey.
1:08:28Joe Johnson:Hey, listen. I need my bread now. Hey, Joe, let me get that 500 out you, Joe.
1:08:34Chad Johnson:All right, I got you.
1:08:36Shannon Sharpe:All right, bet. Steve Martin just want to give you guys a shout out from my brother Nate the biggest Michigan fan ever tonight is your night congrats on the win UM you guys are celebrating Daryl Nickers I found a place in Atlanta where I had a 24 ounce Wagyu for$164 what are you guys top three favorite country music singers who are you guys top three Charlie Pryde songs
1:09:06Chad Johnson:I know Garth Brooks, that about it. I ain't gonna lie to y 'all. Well, I met Tim McGraw.
1:09:15Shannon Sharpe:I met Tim McGraw in a hotel working out. And walked up to him, I said, hey, my name is Shannon Sharp. He says, I know who you are. He says, I'm Tim. I said, I know who you are also. So we struck up a conversation, had a great time.
1:09:32Shannon Sharpe:Oh, Darius Rucker. oh yeah I know I know Darius but
1:09:37Joe Johnson:probably one of my favorites was probably Chris Stapleton when he made the song Tennessee Whiskey I was there yeah I like that I like that song I was there when he wrote the lyrics I had somewhat of a hand in creating and being a part of that song so I mean that's pretty much it yeah
1:09:58Shannon Sharpe:I don't really you know a whole lot of country singers country.
1:10:04Joe Johnson:Jelly Roll? Shit.
1:10:07Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. I don't really listen to him. Okay, I'll take Dolly Parton because I do know Dolly. Dolly! Do know Dolly Parton. I'll take Dolly. TS Carwise Detail Service. Jokic MVP easy. ISO. How was it guarding Kobe? How was Ben Coates? Ocho, who's the tallest player in your era?
1:10:27Chad Johnson:Man. Kobe was a tough guard. It's hard to guard Anybody in the NBA, when they got free range and can shoot when they want, do what they want, you know what I mean? And they do it at a high level too. Like, because you can't relax on defense. You know what I mean? And a guy like Kobe who obviously could shoot the three, could post up, shoot the middie, get to the rack, dunk on you. Like, he has so much in his bag, bro. He kept you on your heels. I'll tell you one thing. The night before, boy, you got a good night rest. because he's going to try to embarrass you.
1:11:06Shannon Sharpe:Oh, we forgot about Kenny Rogers. Yeah. Willie Nelson, Waylon Jennings. One of my favorite shows growing up was Hee Haw. Hee Haw. Mm-hmm. Buck Owens, Roy Clark. Here's here, Joe. I got you just like that now.
1:11:35Joe Johnson:you ain't living joe you ain't living joe
1:11:38Shannon Sharpe:like that right there joe cause you gonna be hey you gonna try to get away joe hey uh uh they got you locked in
1:11:52Joe Johnson:I'm trying to get you ready Joe I'm trying to get you ready for the colonoscopy hey Joe they call it the spread eagle just spread eagle man just no sir hey cover your ass like this, Joe.
1:12:11Chad Johnson:No, sir. I'm sorry, Ocho. Y 'all got me on this one.
1:12:15Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all got me on this one. Hey, Joe, you think I'm in the military? I be on my hands. I be crawling like this. I be trying to get away. I try to get away, Joe. Try to get away.
1:12:28Chad Johnson:Hey.
1:12:33Shannon Sharpe:Man. Oh, man.
1:12:38Shannon Sharpe:Unc Ocho Iso, give your boy a shout out. I just finished my last class. We're receiving my master's degree in information technology. If y 'all free, come celebrate with your boy May 14th in Maryland, University of Maryland, GC. I don't know what that is. Hey, Barry gang, man, congratulations, bro. That's a huge, huge accomplishment, bro. Congrats on me. Information technology. Congrats, congrats. Congrats. Congratulations, bro. We're proud of you here at Nightcap. Ron, for me, can we get Lil Boosie on the show for the playoffs? All right, so what's your top three fragrances? Nightcap outside should go mud riding with a four-wheeler.
1:13:18Chad Johnson:Man, y 'all ever smelt that Tom Ford fucking fabulous? What's that, cologne? That's what you're talking about, ain't it, huh? Yes, yes. It's Tom Ford got a fragrance. It's called fucking fabulous. I got it. It's good. It's nice. Joe? She won't stay off you, Ocho.
1:13:39Joe Johnson:Damn. Let me... Okay. Okay. Tom Ford. Let me Google this. Let me see how much it is first because if it's too much, don't worry about it. It's coming to Black Bottom.
1:13:52Chad Johnson:Another one is... Another one is called Million Dollar. I don't know if y 'all ever heard of that. Million Dollar Worth of Game.
1:14:02Joe Johnson:the gold bottle and the gold bottle. I know what you're talking about.
1:14:06Chad Johnson:That's a good one. One more. God damn, Joe. What?
1:14:12Joe Johnson:The damn bottle costs$500.
1:14:15Chad Johnson:You asked me for the fragrance, bro. It's five, old Joe. I promise you.
1:14:23Damn.
1:14:24Joe Johnson:That's the travel ounce, too. 3.4 ounces. $500, man. Man, shit. Hell no.
1:14:35Shannon Sharpe:Man, look here. Man, if I wouldn't wear cologne, somebody's gonna slap fire to me because I ain't wore cologne since 86. What you use, oils on? That's it. Just shower gel.
1:14:46Joe Johnson:Yeah, okay, okay, okay.
1:14:47Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah? Yeah, I like a little smell good, y 'all. Ask somebody, you smell like mouthwash.
1:14:59Shannon Sharpe:that's what the ladies at Fox told me they said when people asked me man what does Shannon Sharp smell like? mouthwash that's probably a pimp here you're a bad breath boy hey I used to brush my teeth about 10 times a day I'm down to about 6
1:15:21Joe Johnson:yeah that's enough
1:15:22Shannon Sharpe:6 is enough
1:15:23Joe Johnson:10, I mean, that's just.
1:15:26Shannon Sharpe:Yo, I got me a big old bottle. I got me a big old bottle of Listerine about this big.
1:15:31Joe Johnson:You get it from Costco, huh?
1:15:34Chad Johnson:Sam's?
1:15:34Shannon Sharpe:Yep.
1:15:35Chad Johnson:I'm saying you talking to somebody else and they got bad breath. Boy, that's the thing. Oh, man. I'm like, is that me or you? Hey, that's a turn off, boy. Oh, yeah.
1:15:48Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. No, somebody gave me I mean, normally I get cologne I don't do cologne, so Bucket got a bunch of cologne Like I said, I haven't The last cologne that I bought was Obsession by Calvin Klein Damn, what year was that, huh? Like 86, 87 Obsession was the burgundy bottle Nah, it was a clear bottle See if Calvin Klein still make Obsession I could have swore
1:16:17Chad Johnson:I could have swore it was burgundy, like a maroon. Hey, one more. Versace. Versace, it come in a, because they got so many. They got one in like a, it's like a blue bottle. Five. Five.
1:16:33Shannon Sharpe:That Creed, I guess Creed is a very popular cologne. Yeah, it is.
1:16:37Joe Johnson:They got too many, though, huh? Okay, dude, they got a lot. You go look to buy Creed, they got 500 different goddamn fragrances. I'm like, what the hell?
1:16:49Chad Johnson:Joe going to have to get Lil Boosie to come on nightcap. Yeah, I'll probably see him at a house game here recently. You know, he always at the house game. Hey, when you going to the game, Joe? I'm probably going to go to one of these ones coming up, Ocho. Unc, let me know if you plan on being around or anything like that. I definitely will. I'll make sure we got our feet on the wood. You know, we'll be good.
1:17:10Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe, listen, listen, listen. Who was that? Who was that? Hey, no, no, no, no. Look, TSA ain't no struggles right now, so I'm going to come. Hey, Joe, you hear me? I got my old money, Joe. Just let your boy come on down there with you, baby. You got a nice little bankroll over there, don't you, man?
1:17:27Shannon Sharpe:Let's buy a quick little$30 ,000. Well, go and send me my$5 ,900 so Joe, me and Joe have something to throw. We're going to see them 70-year-olds. Look,$30 ,000 real quick.
1:17:37Chad Johnson:We can use the Magic City. Damn, that man just throwing money out there in your face. Unk, he ain't gay. You notice that?
1:17:43Shannon Sharpe:That's crazy. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. Oh, oh, Joe. Joe owe you$500, because you have Michigan. Oh, hey, who? Wait, huh?
1:17:53Chad Johnson:We ain't bet. He ain't want to bet. We did bet. What we bet? We bet$500. We bet$500. Yeah, you know we bet$500. I got to see the footage. Unk, run the footage back. I don't even remember that. We going to pull the footage.
1:18:08Joe Johnson:Hey, run me my money, you going to catch these hands. I know that.
1:18:11Chad Johnson:Hey, who over there snitching too? Somebody over there snitching. Who over there snitching?
1:18:15Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe, hold on.
1:18:16Shannon Sharpe:Did you think I forgot who that? First of all, Ocho, you owe me a 11.8. So just take 500 off that, Joe. You good. You owe me 11.3 now. Hey. Hey,
1:18:31Joe Johnson:listen. I need my bread now. Hey, Joe, let me get that 500 out you, Joe.
1:18:36Shannon Sharpe:All right, I got you. All right, bet. Steve Martin just want to give you guys a shout out from my brother Nate the biggest Michigan fan ever tonight is your night congrats on the win UM you guys are celebrating Darryl Nickers I found a place in Atlanta where I had a 24 ounce Wagyu for$164 what are you guys top three favorite country music singers who are you guys top three Charlie Pryde songs
1:19:08Chad Johnson:Well, I know Garth Brooks, that about it. I ain't gonna lie to y 'all. Well, I met Tim McGraw.
1:19:17Shannon Sharpe:I met Tim McGraw in a hotel working out. And walked up to him, I said, hey, my name is Shannon Sharp. He says, I know who you are. He says, I'm Tim. I said, I know who you are also. So we struck up a conversation, had a great time.
1:19:34Shannon Sharpe:Oh, Darius Rucker. oh yeah I know I know Darius but
1:19:39Joe Johnson:probably one of my favorites was probably Chris Stapleton when he made the song Tennessee Whiskey I was there yeah I like that I like that song I was there when he wrote the lyrics I had somewhat of a hand in creating and being a part of that song so I mean that's pretty much it yeah
1:20:00Shannon Sharpe:I don't really you know a whole lot of country singers country.
1:20:06Joe Johnson:Jelly Roll? Shit.
1:20:09Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. I don't really listen to him. Okay, I'll take Dolly Parton because I do know Dolly. Dolly! Do know Dolly Parton. I'll take Dolly. TS Carwise Detail Service. Jokic MVP easy. How was it guarding Kobe? How was Ben Coates? Ocho, who's the tallest player in your era?
1:20:29Chad Johnson:Man. Kobe was a tough guard. It's hard to guard Anybody in the NBA, when they got free range and can shoot when they want, do what they want, you know what I mean? And they do it at a high level too. Like, because you can't relax on defense. You know what I mean? And a guy like Kobe who obviously could shoot the three, could post up, shoot the middie, get to the rack, dunk on you. Like, he has so much in his bag, bro. He kept you on your heels. I'll tell you one thing. The night before, boy, you got a good night rest. because he's going to try to embarrass you.
1:21:08Shannon Sharpe:Oh, we forgot about Kenny Rogers. Yeah. Willie Nelson, Waylon Jennings. One of my favorite shows growing up was Hee Haw.
1:21:18Joe Johnson:Hee Haw.
1:21:20Shannon Sharpe:Mm-hmm. Buck Owens, Roy Clark.
1:21:26Shannon Sharpe:Ben Coates. Ben was great. I've known Ben a long time. I met Ben in college. I'm a year older than Ben. so my sophomore year Ben would have been well my freshman year so the end of my freshman year they recruiting Ben Ben is the only guy that I've ever that I've ever shown around campus you know did anything told him what it's like so now I know they're gonna move me to tight end because the tight end at the time he's gonna flunk out we know that coach Davis already informed me say hey son I want you to go out here do your thing wide receiver but probably we're gonna to end up moving you to tight end if we can't find anybody, if we can't get anybody out of high school.
1:22:10Shannon Sharpe:I said, okay, coach, cool, no problem. I had played tight end my senior year in high school, so I had played tight end before. It was all state tight end. So no problem. So I'm walking around Ben. I was like, I said, what, you know, because at the time I didn't know what position he played. He's like, I'm a tight end. I said, really? I said, okay, that's good. I said, what you trying to do? He said, man, I want to go somewhere I can start. I said, don't come to Savannah State. I said, they moving me to tight end and you can't beat me out. He went to Livingston.
1:22:39Shannon Sharpe:Ask him. Y 'all, hey, ask Big Co. I told him. I said, if you want to start, don't come to Savannah State because you can't beat me out. He went to Livingston and we both end up in the league. He went to five Pro Bowls. I went to eight. We were on the Pro Bowl roster from like the mid-90s. If you were in the AFC, you weren't going to the Pro Bowl. we had that thing a lot from like from like 90 from like 93 through 98 you wasn't going
1:23:18Shannon Sharpe:Jerry Ward Watson made a post working out with Jerry Judy what do you think he didn't play hard for Sanders if you watch the tape you can clearly see he didn't give effort with the bag he got.
1:23:35Shannon Sharpe:Look, all I know is that Watson, they're paying Watson a lot of money. And if he's healthy, he's going to have every opportunity to start. It all depends on how soon, because everybody's starting from scratch, Ocho, because this is an entirely different offense. So nobody has an upper hand.
1:23:52Joe Johnson:Mm-mm.
1:23:57Amen.
1:24:02Shannon Sharpe:J-Dub, Akron, I remember Monday night game when you were mic'd up against the Steelers. You told Holmes he was the weak link and he was slipping over the middle. Yeah, he did. He called me slipping. Did you Earl Holmes ever talk about that later? No. I told him, I said, you the weak link. We're going to take advantage of you. I said, the other guys, they good. You. Earl Holmes. I think, who was the, uh. Ain't Earl from Miami? Huh? Ain't Earl from the crib? Ain't he from Miami, no? Yeah. I think they had PZ and Gildon. I think that was their starting linebackers, but outside. PZ was there? Yeah.
1:24:39Shannon Sharpe:Okay. Yeah, hell yeah. And, uh, cause inside, I think they had, what's her boy's name? Uh, Kendra Bell.
1:24:51Joe Johnson:hey boy he can hit boy boy Kendra Bell dropped hey boy he can hit Kendra Bell they always buckling tackles pulling guards and stuff Kendra Bell and Brandon Spikes you ever seen you remember Brandon Spikes I do Brandon I remember Spikes yes man I ain't never seen linebackers and they buckle everybody I don't care who it is yep
1:25:19New York
1:25:20Shannon Sharpe:Koolan, who's winning the quarterback battle in Minnesota? I personally think Kyler Murray.
1:25:26Chad Johnson:I do too.
1:25:29Shannon Sharpe:Pappy Ray, what's up, y 'all? What's the best all-time sports moment you've witnessed live at a game before? Does the All-Star game? Because I was at the All-Star game when Josh Hamilton put on that show at Yankee Stadium.
1:25:46Shannon Sharpe:That might be the best moment that I've seen. When was that the Lakers lost to the Pistons? 2004. It might have been three. 2003.
1:26:01Chad Johnson:2001.
1:26:02Shannon Sharpe:99. 2000. 2001. 2003.
1:26:06Chad Johnson:No, my, my. Before I got drafted, that summer being in L.A., I went and watched Philly play against the Lakers when A.I. scored that 50. That 50-some game. 48 and stepped over fish. Game one? Yeah. Yes. What do you have, 48? 48. Yeah, he act a fool that game, boy. Mm-hmm.
1:26:29Shannon Sharpe:That concludes this episode of Nightcap. Congratulations to the Michigan Wolverines as they take down. They took down the UConn Huskies and win the national championship, their first championship in men's college basketball since 1989. Y 'all know who I am. I'm your favorite, Unc. That is my partner and co-host, Liberty City's own bingo, Ring of Fame honoree, a former Pro Bowler and an All-Pro. And still. I just said, Ocho Sequin Johnson.
1:27:00Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, I see. And my other, the other co-host, yes, a seven-time NBA All-Star from the Atlanta Hawks, University of Arkansas alum, that is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. And go subscribe to the Nightcap Podcast feed wherever you get your podcasts from. Thank you guys for your support. Thank you guys for staying with us. It's the first time in almost three. It's the first time ever we've gone over three hours. But we had a lot to talk about tonight. The questions were very interesting, and we felt that we had to get in depth and answer some of these.
1:27:33Shannon Sharpe:So thank you guys for your support, for watching.
1:27:36Joe Johnson:Kick them legs up tonight, Joe.
1:27:37Chad Johnson:Boy, that crown don't even sit on your head right now, sir. Hey, boy, you're an ox or preach, boy? Y 'all's a big three.
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1:28:25Shannon Sharpe:Thank you guys for joining us. We're out. Joe we'll see you make sure she use a thumb
1:28:29Chad Johnson:What? Come on man I'm a holler
1:28:51Thank you.
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