In short
Episode topic: The hosts debate NFL roster economics—especially why some execs think wide receivers are overpriced—while also discussing Von Miller’s potential next team, plus sports talk Q&A (soccer, basketball, NFL matchups) and listener questions.
Guest backgrounds
No named guests appear. The episode is hosted by Chad Ochocinco Johnson and “ISO Joe Johnson” (with a recurring “Nightcap crew” dynamic). The “anonymous AMC executive” is discussed as a source, not a guest.
Key claims
An anonymous AMC exec argues WR pay has gotten out of line and that teams are warming to paying elite dual-threat backs instead (citing that top WR value like J.S. N has far exceeded top RB value like Saquon). The hosts push back, saying you can’t run an offense without receivers and that elite WR contracts are reserved for the “elite of the elite,” unlike most positions.
Notable examples
Von Miller’s “new home” post; comparisons of JSN ($42.1M) vs Saquon ($20.6M); references to elite two-way backs (Christian McCaffrey, Saquon, Bijan Robinson, Jameer Gibbs, Cook). Soccer Q&A mentions U.S. men’s struggles (turnovers, Pulisic criticism) and Belgium/Spain predictions.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOVon Miller's Search for a New Team
1:06 to 1:17
Discussion about Von Miller's potential move to a new team and his career.
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Von Miller's Search for a New Team
2:37 to 4:00
Discussion about Von Miller's potential move to a new team and his career.
“Joe, Vaughn Miller's looking for a new home.”
Wide Receiver Market Dynamics
4:00 to 6:40
Exploration of the rising costs of wide receivers and its implications in the NFL.
“The top average NFL annual value position for JSN,$42.1 million, more than double the top running back, which is Saquon at$20.6 million.”
The Economic Disparity in Sports
6:40 to 14:01
Discussion on the financial landscape of sports and its impact on players and franchises.
“You used to buy a franchise for$30,$40,$50 million,$100 million,$200 million.”
Coaching Career Overview
14:01 to 17:20
Explore the coaching journey of notable figures and their transitions between schools.
“Then he was – No, I'm just – I just want to go head coach.”
Student Experience at Rasmussen University
17:20 to 17:48
Hear about the positive impacts of enrolling at Rasmussen University.
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Student Experience at Rasmussen University
18:19 to 18:46
Hear about the positive impacts of enrolling at Rasmussen University.
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Student Experience at Rasmussen University
18:49 to 20:10
Hear about the positive impacts of enrolling at Rasmussen University.
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Final Segment Introduction
21:12 to 21:36
Introduction to the final segment of the podcast.
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Listener Voicemail Discussion
21:36 to 23:12
Engage with a listener's voicemail suggesting a betting challenge.
“And then, because you get to pick any three, four games you want.”
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Analyzing US Soccer Performance
23:12 to 25:06
Discussing the performance of the US soccer team in recent matches.
Coaching Habits and Youth Development
25:06 to 28:00
Sharing daily practices for self-improvement and mentoring youth.
“Joe no disrespect I'm just being honest Might have been 7-1.”
Flow State in Sports
28:00 to 29:00
Discussing the flow state in sports and the play of a young basketball talent.
“Hey, Unc, Ocho, I don't know if y 'all ever seen on IG where people be in the flow state and they be moving in slow motion.”
Niche and Success
29:00 to 30:50
The importance of finding a niche and being obsessed with it for success.
“You know, especially when he said that word niche, depending on what the youth are doing, whatever their respective craft is, you have to have a niche.”
Overcoming Negativity
30:50 to 31:52
How believing in oneself is crucial for overcoming negativity and doubt.
“There are a bunch of people that play basketball, but there has to be a niche about you that makes you valuable, that makes you an asset.”
The Journey to Success
31:52 to 34:25
Sharing personal experiences about hard work and the unseen struggles behind success.
“Because I was the one that was putting the work in.”
Football Trades and Player Analysis
34:25 to 36:22
Analyzing recent trades in the NBA and discussing player impacts.
“He was really – when he was in New Orleans, he played well, Joe.”
Quarterback Comparisons
36:22 to 37:32
Comparing quarterback performance and discussing team strategies.
“They got a nice – the receiving core is good.”
Quarterback Comparisons
38:22 to 39:12
Comparing quarterback performance and discussing team strategies.
Quarterback Comparisons
40:51 to 42:04
Comparing quarterback performance and discussing team strategies.
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Respecting Female Reporters in Sports
43:14 to 47:51
Discussion on experiences with female reporters in locker rooms.
“So, there's only four teams in the division, Joe.”
Dream Boxing Matches and NFL Offseason
47:52 to 53:19
A light-hearted chat about dream boxing matchups and NFL offseason antics.
“But in that, that is a professional environment, even though we got on t-shirts and shorts and that is still a professional environment and we're going to treat it as such.”
Handling Team Disappointments
53:20 to 56:00
Exploration of dealing with teammates after disappointing playoff losses.
“And they know you the biggest corporate.”
Disappointment in Performance
56:00 to 56:31
The hosts express their frustration regarding a player's performance impacting playoff outcomes.
Disappointment in Performance
1:00:08 to 1:00:22
The hosts express their frustration regarding a player's performance impacting playoff outcomes.
Disappointment in Performance
1:00:25 to 1:01:53
The hosts express their frustration regarding a player's performance impacting playoff outcomes.
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Transcript
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2:06Shannon Sharpe:I have been with Rasmussen University since 2013, all virtual. All of my professors throughout the entire journey have been nothing but supportive of making me reach my dreams.
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2:37Shannon Sharpe:Joe, Vaughn Miller's looking for a new home. Look what he posted. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Hello, Vaughn. Hey, Vaughn, come on home, man. You know we got a spot for you. That two-fold look good on you, too, boy. Yeah, he from Texas. He played at Texas Stadium. Makes sense. DeMarcus Ware was one of his guys. He got an opportunity to play with D-Wear in Denver. They won a championship together, Vaughn was Super Bowl MVP. And you look at the limited number of snaps that he had last year. I think he had like seven, eight sacks. Yeah. Look, the one thing he can do, he can get after the quarterback.
3:15Shannon Sharpe:And it's not going to cost you a whole lot of money. He can still be in that corner. He can still be in that edge. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
3:23Joe Johnson:He absolutely can. He been in like Beckham, boy. I know.
3:27Shannon Sharpe:Hey, look. I'm a Von Miller fan, man. Especially he coming to the Cowboy.
3:33Joe Johnson:Hey, boy.
3:34Shannon Sharpe:Hey, boy. Our defense is going to be all right, Ocho. I'm telling you. Our defense is going to be better than y 'all.
3:42Joe Johnson:who the bangles yo let's let's let's wait the football season to get here joe before we talk
3:46Shannon Sharpe:all right okay i'm gonna be all hey hey i got something for you boy right now my my head is all is all basketball right now all basketball uh-oh just gonna get ocho upset an anonymous amc executive is calling out overpriced wide receivers i think the wide receiver prices have gotten so crazy that teams are warming up to the fact i can get a super talented back pass catching talented back with pass catching abilities, paying$17 or$18 million a year, like doesn't sound so bad anymore. The top average NFL annual value position for JSN,$42.1 million, more than double the top running back, which is Saquon at$20.6 million.
4:28Shannon Sharpe:Ocho? Remember Ocho used to be the running back. We ain't going to pay the running back. Now they said these wide receiver prices are getting and ask them. No, but they're getting out of line.
4:39Joe Johnson:Man, child, please. Listen, if you don't have receivers, go out there and try to run an offense and see what happens. You can't nobody get the hell open. And they stack nine in the goddamn box, and then even if you do have one of those dynamic backs, that can run the ball and catch the ball out the backfield, and they can't run the ball because you don't got no receivers to open up the game, to take the top off the coverage. What are these people talking about, man? There's a reason they make that 40, 41, 42, 43. There's a reason Puga going to break the bank and reset the market at the wider season.
5:11Joe Johnson:What are we talking about? If you understand the game and how the game is played, how many of those backs he just described are there in the NFL? What? Three? Maybe four? If that, McCaffrey, B. John Robinson, Jameer Gibbs, Saquon, Jameer Gibbs, and Christian McCaffrey. Who else? It's 32 teams. I could only name five players that are really good, really good at doing both. You're right.
5:37Shannon Sharpe:Let's be realistic.
5:39Joe Johnson:Come on, man.
5:40Shannon Sharpe:And he make it seem like everybody, listen, every receiver that comes up ain't going to get JSA and Apuka's money. No. It's just like every quarterback. So every quarterback now when he's eligible. So you think Baker Mayfield is going to reset the market? He's going to get Patrick Mahomes' money? No, he's not. No. He's not.
5:58Joe Johnson:And then you have to understand, And these$40 million contracts are reserved for the elite of the elite. All top-dollar contracts are, except the quarterbacks.
6:07Shannon Sharpe:But the quarterback is the only guy. He's the only guy that you pay on potential. Everybody else have to prove themselves. And they have to normally prove themselves over and over. A quarterback, well, we think he can be good. Let's go ahead and pay him. Even after one season. Because you can't do nothing without a damn quarterback. No. At all. But now, look, I understand. So you want this exec, whoever this exec is, so you want the value of the franchises to go up. You used to buy a franchise for$30,$40,$50 million,$100 million,$200 million. So your franchise is going up$6 billion,$7 billion,$8 billion,$10 billion,$12 billion.
6:54Shannon Sharpe:But while the prices for the players stay the same. you see how they think in chat so now the Cowboys got a value I think they got a valuation of 13, 12, 13 billion dollars but you want the wide receivers to still make money like they playing in 2015 hello damn you know who I left off that list too
7:18Joe Johnson:six running backs actually brother Cook down there in Buffalo yeah brother Cook down there in Buffalo
7:25Shannon Sharpe:that's what I don't get Everybody keep talking, oh, the stock market is good and all this is good. The common man ain't in the stock market. That's reserved for a very few. Yeah. So I don't care. The stock market can go to$60 ,000. If I ain't got no money in it, what good is that doing me? In order for to put money in the stock market, you got to have disposable income. Everybody ain't got disposable income because everybody ain't making a living wage. I can't take money. So the money that I was supposed to put gas in my car or buy necessities around the house, I can't take that money and put it in the stock market.
8:03Shannon Sharpe:I need that. Yeah. I need to put a roof over my head. I just don't get... They don't want to play the play of nothing. They just want... They just want to print money. Yeah.
8:18Joe Johnson:Or they want to make all that.
8:20Shannon Sharpe:Print money. Because here's the thing. Y 'all making more money. We see Netflix. It said Netflix played$75 million for five games. $375 for five games, Ocho. $375 for five.
8:46Shannon Sharpe:Netflix I don't know if Amazon will get another package, but Netflix is going to want that Sunday night package. Fox y 'all have to be in CBS y 'all have to be in cuz they got these streaming services they got boo-koo books Yes, y 'all remember that game pressure look big bucks. No whammy big bucks. No women stop They got it And the one thing I know about the NFL y 'all think they got loyalty to your networks, but they about to show you That CBS Money talks when they talk about getting a reduction in but okay you're going to find out i don't that's what i don't get so as everything goes up the value of the franchise goes up more money is coming in through licensing licensing um tv contracts but oh players not a player's making too much money and and the players are the product that's on the damn field that draw eyes to the game.
9:52Shannon Sharpe:That's what I don't understand, bro. You got to always take care of the product, man. I don't give a damn what sport it is, Ocho. You got to take care of the product, bro. That's the guys that's out there or the people that's out there on the field or on the court that's competing and making the game somewhat respectable to what people want to watch. That's what I don't get. reward the people that help your business grow that's that's the way you do it but they want to make all the money you're getting a check the uh what what's the what's the what is it 250 million dollars what what's the what's the cap you're gonna get 400 million just off tv Just our TV.
10:40Shannon Sharpe:Now, you got local TV, local radio. You got parking. You got admission. You got PSLs. You got all the other stuff that's in there, motocross, NCAA, concerts. Okay, the NFL salary cap is$301 million,$301.2. You're about to get a check for$400. So you're about$100 clear. That's before you do anything locally. Now, what about all the jerseys that you sell? You got to cut it out. All the merchandise. So now when we get the stadium, you got at least eight, you got at bare minimum. Because guess what? The tickets aren't any cheaper for preseason. You don't know. So let's just say on the low end, you got 10 home games.
11:37Shannon Sharpe:On the high end, you got 11. That's a regular season. Because it's an odd number, 17. So one year you might have nine home games. The next year you have eight. Now, postseason.
11:53Shannon Sharpe:So they just want to make all the money. Players make it too much. And your franchise has increased exponentially. Man, y 'all didn't stop.
12:02Joe Johnson:Hey, listen. God. It sounded a little bit like college football, too. Of course. Huh? Oh, everything was fine and dandy when the universities and the entities were making billions of players' likeness. And all of a sudden, NIL is a problem.
12:19Shannon Sharpe:They're making too much money. Guess who they never said that about, Ocho? The coaches. Oh, the coaches. Name the coaches. You know when the college came to them, say, you know what? We want to give you an extension. We know you got five years. You know we got three, four years left. We want to put another three, four years on it. and bump your salary from$5 million to$7 million,$8 million. Nobody uttered a word. Now, now it's a problem. Why is it a problem? It wasn't no problem when y 'all was making billions. Y 'all didn't go to Congress and sit y 'all ass up there and lie. And talk about this is bad.
12:58When coaches leave, y 'all didn't say,
13:00Shannon Sharpe:well, a player should only be able to leave once. Really?
13:05Joe Johnson:Why? Coaches leave all the time. More than once.
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13:09Shannon Sharpe:The coach, he was at Cincinnati, and then he went to Notre Dame, and then he went to LSU. Chip Kelly. No, Brian Kelly. Brian Kelly.
13:21Joe Johnson:I'm talking about Chip Kelly.
13:25Shannon Sharpe:Coach Saban, I love you. You left, wasn't he at Toledo? A Bowling Green? Where was he at? Where was Coach Saban at? And then he went to LSU. And then he went to Miami. And then he came back to Alabama. Urban Meyer. He was at Bowling Green or something. Then he went to Florida. Then he went to Ohio State. So, damn. So, coaches can move as much as they want, but you want to relegate a player. Wherever you go, you get one move. Okay, coaches, you get one move. I'm cool. Right. Coach, you get one move. So, if you go to the University of Florida, your next move better be your best move. because that's it.
14:09Shannon Sharpe:Unless you get fired. No. Oh, hey. Oh, Coach Saban started at Kent State. Then he was – No, I'm just – I just want to go head coach. Oh, he was at Michigan State. That's where he started. Michigan State. He was at Toledo, and then he was Coach Belichick's defensive coordinator at Cleveland. Then he went to Michigan State. Then he went to LSU. So hold on. Toledo is one. Michigan State is two. LSU is three. Miami is four. Alabama is five. Well, damn.
14:53Shannon Sharpe:But a player will get you. A player will wherever you go. So if you go to University of Miami, Ocho, you get one transfer. That's it. That's it. Go to Arkansas, you get one. You can go to Kentucky. You can go wherever you want. But you only get that after that. That's it. But coaches get to go wherever. Nah, hell nah. And y 'all know they're going to try to cap that damn NIL, too. They ain't going to just let it. How many schools Lane Kiffin did that? Yeah. Yeah. Lane the damn damn coach did every team in SEC. Lane got a big bag. USC. He was at Tennessee. He's at Ole Miss. Now he's at LSU. Nah.
15:33Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Man, look. I think Coach Saban is the greatest college coach of all time. But I think it's really disingenuous what they're doing. Because what happened was, guess what, Ocho? They wasn't the only one that was playing players, allegedly. So now all of a sudden, everybody got a bag. All of a sudden, people didn't want no scat packs and no charges and challenges. When I can get a Lambo, I can get a Cullinan, I can get an Uros. Hello. Yeah.
16:10Shannon Sharpe:How you get every four and five star running back coming out?
16:17Shannon Sharpe:You know what? You know what it is. You got Trent Richardson. You got Ingram. You got Derrick Henry. You got Kamara. You got Damian Harris. You got Tenpity. Rest his soul. Bro, you got seven, eight five-star running backs. Boys, and they wait and they turn. What about the receivers? Alabama used to be just like that. They had Ridley, and they had Julio, and they had a coop. They had Judy. They had Devontae Smith. They got Ruggs. They got Waddle. Ain't no...
17:00stop just stop
17:04Shannon Sharpe:and we're gonna talk about all them d linemen and linebackers and corners they had ocho we're gonna talk about them hey animals boy hey
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21:18Shannon Sharpe:All right. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Q and A.
21:29Shannon Sharpe:Weekend bladder.
21:33Shannon Sharpe:uh we have three video voicemails let's take a listen to our first one yo um iso and freaky ass outro but you need to be putting time out for real but i got a great idea right to put some money really in our pocket because i mean cowboys and bingos fans y 'all y 'all niggas delusional for real but um man here you go and before the before the cowboys fan say something i'm a pandas fan so please rico.l 300 yards on your head yeah but i think what y 'all should do for this season coming up y 'all should do something like a march madness bracket and pick who y 'all think going to win each the uh division and put like let's put a little thousand up let's do a little thousand y 'all got that shit we gonna we gonna we gonna you know what we gonna pick like three or four games every week.
22:30Shannon Sharpe:And then, because you get to pick any three, four games you want. And then at the end of the year, we're going to see who has the best record. And then, you know, we put a little something up. We put like 500 ,000 up, like you say, and we're going to take all. I'm winning that for a shit show. Same way you won the NBA season? You always talking about old stuff, bro. I don't know why you stay bringing up old stuff. If it ain't happening yesterday, I don't really remember. You talking about something happening three, four months ago. That's all we're What?
22:59Joe Johnson:Boy, the NBA championship Was three weeks ago, Joe
23:01Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, I don't remember It, Ocho It ain't happened yesterday I'm saying we moving forward Well, hey, listen If you dwell on the past That means you ain't done Nothing in the present, partner We ain't talking about all that We moving forward Alright, my bad Yeah Alright, my bad Here, let's take a listen To the second one Yes, Nightcap fans
23:21Joe Johnson:Straight from the UK Going real quick Onk, when's Laporte Going to be available In this country The UK, please um joe you doing bits baby and still and still beat otto's ass for me and october like you took
23:37Shannon Sharpe:that gouda top off mid podcast the other month yeah when we lost to united i'll never forgive you for that man fighting talk about maguna and shit belgium bro i thought you said they were old yeah Ocho you did say that you said you said yeah you said you said oh we should we even the balagon don't play we should still win we hey listen Joe they fooled me what you talk about Joe
24:09Joe Johnson:nah hey um they fool do you see how to do you see the way the USA played the first three games man I'm like what the hell who is this team if I said if we can play like this be able to pass the ball and facilitate and be comfortable on the ball the way they look them first three times and we play Belgium I say man we're going to be alright we should run circles around and they are an aging older team they are and you're going to see when Belgium plays I forgot who they got to play next don't they play Spain they got to play Spain now watch what Spain do to them when you get a level of talent and players collectively as a group with the same quality if not better than you watch how Spain make them look hell it's a good thing we don't got to play Spain
24:57Shannon Sharpe:you thought Belgium did us bad what Spain would have done to them
25:04Joe Johnson:Joe it might have been 7-1 Joe no disrespect I'm just being honest Might have been 7-1.
25:12Shannon Sharpe:I don't know. Man, I'm disappointed because everybody told me Kristen Pulisic was the greatest U.S. soccer player ever. Yeah, yeah.
25:22Joe Johnson:Hey, he didn't show up. He didn't. I'm not going to say the moment was too big for him because he plays at the highest level in City Yacht with AC Milan, so he should be used to the pressure. He should be used to that type of atmosphere. That may have him assist the whole tournament, Ocho. yeah hey you ain't got this hair in the arm hey joe what's the equivalent of turning the ball over 11
25:43Shannon Sharpe:times in basketball what's the equivalent yeah so he turned the ball over 11 times in the game
25:50Joe Johnson:before before he got subbed out for i'm assuming an injury he turned over a lot huh yeah turn it
25:57Shannon Sharpe:over 11 times that's that's that's i told you i told you yeah we couldn't we couldn't win no one-on-ones and we couldn't even make no lateral passes, Ocho. We couldn't clear the ball, Ocho. We couldn't control the ball. We couldn't do nothing.
26:11Joe Johnson:Nothing.
26:12Shannon Sharpe:Instead of kicking back. And then the goalie, he picked the worst time to have his worst game. I don't know what he was thinking. He should have subbed his ass out. Here's the third. Let's take a listen to that third one.
26:28Joe Johnson:What up, crew? It's your boy Mayo. Ocho, you do not want to wonder why, so, okay? He's going to have you looking straight after he's done with you, okay? Joe, I got you. I ruptured my patella tender. I know how it feels. So you come to Utah and watch the Jazz and DP take the Western Conference finals, go down to Liberty Park up the street, and I'm going to show you what it is, okay? USA men's soccer, I don't know what that was. I don't play soccer, but I know hustle when I see it. That ain't it, okay? Now my question is, what's one niche habit or, you know, practice that you guys do every single day to show up to be your best self to keep you going every day because i work with the youth and they have a hard time so what's one thing that i could pass on from y 'all to get to them i love what y 'all doing keep it up peace out
27:18Shannon Sharpe:hey self affirmations bro you know speak speaking things into existence yeah like me beating joe's
27:26Joe Johnson:ass oh see here he go i'm just saying he telling me he said listen you said about self-affirmation me telling you i'm gonna whoop you it's self-affirmation joe that's damn self-affirmation
27:37Shannon Sharpe:that tell them kids that's false advertising that's what the hell that is no no it ain't no you gotta believe joe you gotta believe i believe no you can't oh joe you can't whoop me i can't on the court i can whoop you no you can't no you can't bro you can't do what you used to do joe All right, okay. All right, I'm going to show you. Hey, Unc, he said something about Darren Peterson, didn't he? That boy getting him. Hey, man, let me tell you. He getting them buckets, Joe. Got him. Let me tell you. Hey, Unc, Ocho, I don't know if y 'all ever seen on IG where people be in the flow state and they be moving in slow motion.
28:17Shannon Sharpe:Hey, man, the young man got it, bro. It's like he live in the flow state. Hey, look, when I talk about when I watch cats in basketball, I want to see how comfortable you are on the court under pressure under duress You know what I mean when you playing against a guy who just as hungry as you yeah Man listen we talk about one-on-ones and soccer winning one-on-ones That man don't even see the player in front the person who guarding him he'll even see hey I'm just trying to see where your damn help coming from confident blow by you partner. Hey that man is getting to it. Why? and he's serious uncle ocho darren peterson serious bro i know we talk a lot about you know the cramping and we know if he loved a game but man a couple games i've seen him play in the summer league in utah obviously man and he's scoring at an efficient rate he he is you know you know what it is it's because he can shoot so so good that you got to get up on him but he's so damn athletic that he can get by you so quick oh man he's nice yeah i ain't gonna lie hey when
29:22Joe Johnson:does summer league go to vegas they start in vegas tomorrow oh okay and that's when everybody be there
29:28Shannon Sharpe:yeah yeah i think the ninth through the 15th yeah i'm gonna catch a couple of games yeah yeah hey
29:34Joe Johnson:let me know hey i'll come sit i come sit with you man have a good time well you know get some you
29:39Shannon Sharpe:how we and you do oh joe you know how here we go here we go here we go here we go here we go i'm saying you talking about so you know how me and you do it oh john say hey hey hey i get it i get it joe we know you can't get away like like oh joe and i can oh man see here we go here we go here we go one thing we're not gonna do we're not gonna mess up no happy home yes sir when the rubber needs to meet the road we have to go on a road trip and she say you can't go and you can't go how does it go look damn why would she say that why would y 'all think
30:16Joe Johnson:she would say that the same reason you said you couldn't go to houston she didn't say that i had something she didn't say that what's wrong with y 'all you have you had something more important to hang with us yo i'm just saying yeah that's crazy what's up what's chat what's what's something
30:33Shannon Sharpe:what's one thing that you could, you know, he want to be able to impart on his youth, say he worked with the youth?
30:41Joe Johnson:You know, especially when he said that word niche, depending on what the youth are doing, whatever their respective craft is, you have to have a niche. You have to have something that separates you from everybody else. There are a bunch of people that play basketball, but there has to be a niche about you that makes you valuable, that makes you an asset. If you play receiver, if you play football, something about whatever position you're doing, whatever you're doing in life in general. Something about you has to be special, whatever that niche is, that separates you from everybody else that does the exact same thing.
31:09Shannon Sharpe:And you got to be obsessed with it, bro. I'm talking about to the point to where when your ass fall asleep, you dream about it. Yeah, it's got to be that. It's really got to be that. The old saying is that dirty water doesn't stop plants from growing. Don't let negative words impact your progress. somebody tells you you can't. Somebody doesn't view you favorably.
31:44Shannon Sharpe:If I'd have listened to people that told me, well, you ain't gonna go to college, you're not gonna do this. I just needed one person to tell me I could. Guess who that person was? Me.
31:56Shannon Sharpe:Because I was the one that was putting the work in. You looked at me and saw what you saw in the football field or the basketball or whatever the case may be but you didn't see the work that i put in you know what i noticed guys people will get jealous of what you have but they'll never be jealous of the work you put in to get it hello yeah and most of the time people don't see that
32:18Joe Johnson:everybody most of the time when it comes to artists rappers mlb they always see the finished product of everybody they see the finished product and don't understand the journey that you went through the ups and downs, the obstacles, the trials and tribulations to actually get to that point. They don't see all the L's you took before you started winning.
32:37Shannon Sharpe:Hello. No. Hello. Because it's so easy to pass judgment. It's so easy to sit back. You know, oh, man, you was a slave. You doing all that working. That wasn't this. That wasn't that. All that was teaching. My girlfriend said, boy, take all that to make a man. It started to steal discipline, to go a little extra. Because I knew I wasn't the only one that had a dream of playing in the NFL. I wasn't the only one that had a dream of playing professional sports. so that's what I didn't get like oh you did this and you did that bro y 'all make it seem like I was always in this position y 'all know my story y 'all saw where I came from all that those long hard hours of putting in and when people told me I couldn't I listened to the one person that told me I could you could do this yeah because when I was along with those thoughts and that old that cinder block home?
33:30Shannon Sharpe:None of y 'all were there. They weren't there. Now you want to tell me what I should do. Where were you then? The over-encouragement.
33:44Shannon Sharpe:When I was hungry. When I was cold. When I was getting bit by mosquitoes. Where were you at then? Now you want an opinion. I've made it somewhat. Now you want to offer an opinion on what you think I should do and what I should say and how I should behave. Okay. I'm listening. Now that Jonas from the Nuggets was traded to Philly, is Philly a top landing spot for LeBron now? Jonas? Valanchunas. Oh, they traded him to Philly? Oh, because Drummond went to the Knicks. And they needed a backup for him. So he needed a backup. Yeah, yeah. But ain't a bad backup. But Dallin Chunis was a lot. He was really – when he was in New Orleans, he played well, Joe.
34:38Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, he did. And he forgot how to damn play. He forgot how to damn play when he went to the Nuggets. Yeah, I don't know if that move to Needle for Brown in Philly, though. I'm going to be honest with you. But he a solid pickup, though. Solid pickup. Football question. And Ocho, when you face Nnamdi and Revers, what is the difference between the two of them?
34:59Joe Johnson:I mean, obviously, Nnamdi being much taller, being much, much longer, wingspan very long. I mean, it was different, especially with Nnamdi being that he's so long and he has a longer stride, longer stride. I just go. I just go. I want to put the pressure on him as fast as possible because I understood I could beat him in transition. being that it would take him much longer to be able to get in and out of breaks as opposed to playing Revis who was really, really patient, really patient, really strong. I really didn't want to get touched. If he put his hands on you, it was over.
35:35Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. I mean, who? Revis. Revis.
35:38Joe Johnson:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't like to get touched. So, obviously, most of the time I did what you're really told not to do is I would widen purposely just to get me a running start. When we played against Revis, those two weeks, obviously. and um and rebus was really good man that 2009 season he was special obviously two really good corners especially a man-to-man two completely different styles of play yeah
36:02Shannon Sharpe:salute to the nightcap crew hey uh can you do a new intro with the beard that clean face intro ain't no more respectfully love y 'all yeah i guess we have to do a new intro huh Man, football season need to hurry up and start. Y 'all, honest opinion. How good would my Vikings be if Kyler can play like he did his first couple of years with the core he had? Well, look.
36:33Shannon Sharpe:Hawkinson should be back. They got Jetta. They got Addison. They got a nice – the receiving core is good. The question is, can they protect him? right that too that's the question because the thing that i worry about especially with athletic mobile quarterbacks ocho they normally the most sack guys because they run themselves into a lot of sacks i'm getting away from something on the front side i run myself into something in the back side right yeah so paul i know y 'all would say man what you mean run something into the back side but uh yeah i think they can be good defensively hey you know defensively they what they are they can get after your quarterback we're gonna find out we're gonna fight because that division is really good even with kyle playing well for me ocho they still the birth the third best team in that division the fourth best team they're not better than detroit they're not better than green bay and they damn sure not better than chicago
37:38Shannon Sharpe:all things being equal kyle is the worst quarterback in that division ocho let's be real the worst you you take Kyle over Caleb Williams you take him over Jordan Love
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43:13Joe Johnson:Oh, hell.
43:14Shannon Sharpe:You taking them over golf?
43:18Joe Johnson:No, not on that Lions team. Absolutely not. So, there's only four teams in the division, Joe.
43:26Shannon Sharpe:Tell me, he's the worst quarterback in that division. Right. Big three, did y 'all ever feel uncomfortable when reporters want to interview you guys in the locker at the thing you wear the towel? No, that's part of the job. We had women coming in there because it used to be. Then they had that situation. You go back and study it where the situation, guys got in trouble. They were saying some things to female reporters, and it really got out of hand. It was very, very distasteful. You know, women have a job to do. let them do their job. I gave them the same level of respect that I gave the men.
44:05Shannon Sharpe:And so for me, it was never uncomfortable for me. I understand they had a job to do and I allowed them to do their job. They allowed me to do my job and we went on their way. One of the, Linda Bruin, rest of soul, she was great. She was a reporter in Denver and she was always great. And anytime she needed something, I was like, you know what? I said, here, Lynn, you can have my personal number. If there's something I can help you with, give me a call. Even when I retired, she would call me, Shannon, I need something from you. And I was so sad to hear that she had passed away. She had gotten cancer.
44:43Shannon Sharpe:I think she had left and went to Washington, I think. I don't think she was still writing for the Broncos. But anyway, but no, it never made me. Now, Joe and Ocho might have different opinions. I don't know if they had any women reporters, but Linda Bruin is the one I can remember off the top of my head. Obviously, Andrew Kramer, and there are a lot of others, but I never had a problem with any of them. Yeah, I can't remember or recall. I'm sure we've had women reporters, but I can't really remember none, Uncle Ojo, that was consistently in our locker rooms after games of that sort. I can't really pinpoint that.
45:21Shannon Sharpe:So it never really stood out to me. if y 'all could have your dream boxing match with any two fighters across generations who would it be Floyd and Sugar Ray maybe Roy Jones and I don't know I might pay to see Roy Jones and Floyd right now the way they been going I'm trying to think Captain Hook hey hey man that boy would mean boy you know what i'm i love entertainment for entertainment
45:58Joe Johnson:purposes right for entertainment purposes even though i think the weight classes might have been different i would i would have loved to see a fight between a prime emmanuel augustus and prince not seen you talk about entertainment at his finest joe yeah oh my goodness yeah hey you ever seen the clips of manuel augustus boxing the drunken master yeah i have yeah yeah oh my god man oh yeah yeah straight hey did y 'all see the uh what's his name now abdullah kid he just fought
46:34Shannon Sharpe:the other day. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
46:35Joe Johnson:Abdullah Mason. Yeah. Abdullah Mason. Yeah.
46:38Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, I like watching him, man. He can go.
46:41Joe Johnson:Yeah, he nice. He from down there in Cleveland.
46:44Shannon Sharpe:Guys, Pam was a sideline reporter. It's Pam Oliver. They don't really come in the locker room. They just do what they do on the sideline, and that's it. I don't recall Pam being in the locker room. Now, she might have. Yeah. My year in Baltimore, Sage Steele, that was her first year working. So we had a great relationship. I still have a great relationship with Sage. I just made sure the guys be respectful because obviously she was a very attractive woman, but I was like, that's not why she's here. She's not here for y 'all to do that foolishness. Let's be respectful. She asks you a question, answer the question, and keep it moving.
47:25Shannon Sharpe:It's hard sometimes for some of them guys. It is, it is, but if I'm in your locker room, it ain't going to be that hard, Joe. Because we're going to be professional. because above all that, we're there to be professional. Let the lady do her job. Let her go on her way. That's not why she's there. You do not want them problems. We don't. And that's not how a locker room that I'm going to be a part of, I don't want to be looked at like that. So me being an elder statesman, hey, I took it upon myself. That's not how we're going to do it. We're going to handle the situation. She'll tell you. She'll absolutely tell you.
48:00it ain't no
48:03Shannon Sharpe:the thing that I like Joe is that a lot of times like Cass say sometimes in a world full of lies the truth seems so far fetched but everything can be corroborated can be confirmed I don't gotta lie but I just like professional in a professional environment let's be professional sometimes we can relax sometimes we get together that we joking. Yeah, that's a little less formal. So, hey, we can have some fun. But in that, that is a professional environment, even though we got on t-shirts and shorts and that is still a professional environment and we're going to treat it as such. Oh, I ordered a husband LaPortier for Father's Day and we got it today.
48:49Shannon Sharpe:This mofo so smooth. Ooh, we thank you. Thank you. I really, really appreciate that. I don't know if you saw the the port of mines. Hey, they say they want us to come to Houston. They're going to show us around. You see, we got the – I've seen them, yeah. They say, hey, we're going to go out and say, hey, you got to make it two days because nobody leave Houston on a Sunday. So we got a day. We got to go Saturday. We're going to do Saturday night. We're going to do brunch. We're going to go out. I was like, yeah, you go to brunch, and then you go back to your hotel and go to sleep, and then we go out that night.
49:23Shannon Sharpe:I'm like, well, damn. I said, all right. I said, me and Ocho, I know me and Ocho, Ocho and I, we down. So it ain't going to be no problem for us. I don't know about the third member. I don't know about the third member.
49:37Joe Johnson:If he get permission.
49:38Shannon Sharpe:Oh, well, hey, Joey, write me a permission slip for Joe. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Y 'all got it real quick.
49:46Joe Johnson:Hey, hey, hey, hey, see, hey, Joe, you got a fax machine?
49:49Shannon Sharpe:Hey, you got to chill. That's what you got to do. You need to chill. You and Unc. You and Unc. Y 'all need to chill. Y 'all need to chill, bro.
49:56Joe Johnson:i'm just saying hey listen joe hey joe you ain't no bad brother if you can't go yeah yeah that's what i'm saying that don't make you no bad brother because you can't hang with no two and i it's cool i just want to make sure you know we do we do it the right way we do it professionally
50:11Shannon Sharpe:so she give you a chance you know hey hey hey y 'all stop trying me bro for real no you know what hey you know what joe you're right we as a matter of fact we're not going to even broach it to you so that way we'll keep the confusion down. Ocho, we'll handle it. All right, bet. Oh, okay. So shorty, hey, hold on, hold on, hold on. So shorty, them live in Houston? Yeah, they from Houston. They in Atlanta, live in Atlanta. Oh, okay, okay.
50:41Shannon Sharpe:Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
50:47Joe Johnson:Hey, what'd that say?
50:50Shannon Sharpe:hey y 'all gotta chill y 'all gotta chill hey chat why I gotta deal with this chat I was gonna give you this just having to put a name right here
51:03Shannon Sharpe:you gotta fax it damn
51:06Joe Johnson:this is Joe's
51:08Shannon Sharpe:permission slip please sign here wifey damn this is what we doing this is what we doing in front of the company Joe say, hey, Ocho say we got to be professional a long time. Hey, hey, hey, hey. In front of company, it's 21K in the chat.
51:27Joe Johnson:This how y 'all go act? Joe, that ain't company. That's 21 ,000. That's family. It's a difference. Yeah, that's what we do. Yeah, it's a difference. They know.
51:35Shannon Sharpe:All right, okay. All right, I got it.
51:37Joe Johnson:Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
51:38Shannon Sharpe:Joe, that don't make you no bad brother because you can't go. Somebody, hey, somebody, somebody got to have to pay for this, okay? Yeah. y 'all gonna have to pay for this trust me chat i got him chat uh what up big three ocho and iso are related check the ancestry yeah they brought yeah they related hell no i told you hey man look we we two different we two different shades of black that man blurple black and purple all right but y 'all close though that johnson
52:12Joe Johnson:hey hold on joe the the the proper complexion for my skin tone is pumpernickel satin blue let's get it let's get it together pumpkin nipple pumper pumper satin blue that's that's my
52:25Shannon Sharpe:complexion yeah that johnson is to get it right johnson all johnsons came off one tree it's just a lot of acorns that fell off and planted and it got carried away but that's one tree john it's one johnson nah yeah nah it's different it's different types of johnson and ocho one different type of johnson than me i i'm i'm a conservative johnson this boy here come on man y 'all i mean come on
52:52Joe Johnson:come on now i'm worried about it i know you're ashamed right now you're not used to it hey
52:59Shannon Sharpe:when don't you get on here and be cutting up remember what cat said and Ocho be wanting to party, and you got to tell him no. You got to tell him no.
53:11Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all freaking out doing the offseason. The NFL needs to hurry up. Man, that be Ocho and Joe. Come on. And they know it be you because you can't wait to say it's me and Ocho. You can't wait to throw us out there. And they know you the biggest corporate. So I don't even know why you be acting like that. Hey, I'm in the cut chill. That's me. Oh, now he in the damn cut chilling. Man, please. They know y 'all. Yeah, yo in the cut. All right. Yeah.
53:40Shannon Sharpe:Damn. Okay. Ocho, start, bench, cut. Eating groceries, Tua as your career quarterback, pooping in a public toilet.
53:55Shannon Sharpe:I'm going to start Tua. Not Ocho. and uh ocho ocho ocho ocho start them all he's starting with the groceries he he definitely he coming yeah yeah he's starting that he started with the groceries oh yeah all right okay uh what's the next one because two are last whatever the hell it is yeah i think i i i i oh no let's see so you got eat groceries tour as your career quarterback pooping in the public toilet yeah he going to public toilet here i gotta get hey this must be for joe nah look here he go here he go here he go here he go look tell it must be for joe now here he goes
54:48Joe Johnson:that's for you oh joe now that they put my name by accident they definitely meant to send that the joke, bro.
54:54Shannon Sharpe:Man, Chet know the biggest freaks on the night count. I'm going to start. Hold on. I'm going to start. Ooh, Lord, have mercy.
55:07Shannon Sharpe:I think I got to start, too. I got to start, too. Damn. And then you going to the border body? Yeah, yeah. I think I got to.
55:26Shannon Sharpe:i think i'm gonna go i think i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna bitch i'm gonna bitch to go i'm gonna bitch public toilet i gotta cut eat groceries damn but you
55:38Joe Johnson:go and you gonna bitch you're gonna bitch the back door work yeah uh-uh hey y 'all hey y 'all yeah y 'all like y 'all ain't living right man y 'all and y 'all ain't living right man hey the the ball is the change the fact that you you you've been the best man don't worry about it yeah
55:55Shannon Sharpe:yeah damn uh how would y 'all how would y 'all handle a teammate like beasley if you found out he cost you a playoff loss i mean i mean you can't do nothing now i mean you disappointed yeah you just you you extremely disappointed yeah what the hell are we gonna do to him talk about how we handle him what are we supposed to do
56:20Shannon Sharpe:hell I was looking at him sideways when that ball went off his head decayed through it
56:28Shannon Sharpe:hey he for sure could have helped him absolutely that concludes this episode of Nightcap want to thank each and every one of you for joining us y 'all know who I am I'm your favorite unc my partner's in co-hosting crime the Liberty City legend the bingo ring of fame ornery a former pro bowler and an all pro that is Chad Ochocinco Johnson and the third member of the big three even though he gets no permission to go and travel with Ocho and I. He's a University of Arkansas alum, a seven-time NBA All-Star from the Atlanta Hawks. And because he can't go, that don't make him no bad brother, y 'all.
57:00Shannon Sharpe:That is ISO Joe Johnson. Damn. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. And go subscribe to the Nightcap Podcast feed wherever you get your podcasts from. I want to thank each and every one of you for his support and your continued support. Thanks to you, Nightcap has become the success that it's become. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shea by LaPortier, head over to LaPortierCognac.com to purchase you a bottle if it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you. It is a premium. BSOP cognac, the best tasting, smoothest BSOP cognac on the market.
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