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14:08Shannon Sharpe:We don't have these off-board moments where someone's running the wrong way, like you said, like, you know, someone's whiffing on a play. Like, how can we be better to set him up? We're one of the best to ever do it. Because you have times, you guys go up and down the field, and it's like, this is the Kansas City, and then you go two, three quarters. You're like, who the hell is this team? How is that arguably one of, that's the greatest quarterback currently playing. You can make a case he's a top five quarterback, and he's only seven, eight years into his career. What happened to this offense?

14:36Shannon Sharpe:Who are they? And I know you feel that way because you've seen it at its highest. when you guys can do no wrong. Yeah, man. I mean, that's just the ebbs and flows of the game, though. At the end of the day, man, you're not going to be that dominant, consistent factor every single year. You might have a down, you might have a down tumultuous time. But, you know, it's just about getting back to the winning ways. Like I said, getting back to the standard is the secret to the sauce, right? What is the standard? Being consistent, being accurate, being detail-oriented. Once we get back to those ways, man, then how do you do that?

15:07Shannon Sharpe:You got to work every single day, and you fix something one single time, one rep at a time. You just continually get better. And that's all you can do as a player, man. Is that where E.B. comes in? Because E.B. was the accountability officer. I know E.B. E.B. was the accountability officer. E.B. don't care who you are. He don't care what your title is, how many pro bowls, all pro. If you effed up, did you eff up? Did you eff up?

15:31Jay Glazer:Tell me what you did. And the funny thing about it, you know why everybody's always up in arms? Because the Chiefs have sustained consistent success for so long. and you make it look so goddamn easy from the outside looking in. Those that play the game, we understand how difficult it is. We understand how special Andy Reid and that situation he has with Patrick Mahomes is. And the fact that when you guys have a down season, everybody's like, oh, my goodness, what happened? And all it is is going back to the bases, going back to the drawing board. As you said, it's off the line, having accountability, trying to minimize the mistakes you make so Pat Mahomes can function the way he does as one of the better quarterbacks in the history of the NFL.

16:09Jay Glazer:Not just now.

16:10Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, man.

16:11Jay Glazer:Y 'all going to be all right, though. Y 'all going to be all right. No, man.

16:13Shannon Sharpe:Just take it one time at a time, man. Uh-huh. Oh. Trey, heal up. Yes, sir. You know what the expectations are. I already know. You know, hey. I already hear you be screaming finish right now. Yeah.

16:28Jay Glazer:Hey, also, let Eric Bini know, if y 'all need an offensive coordinator assistant or wide receiver coach assistant, I'm here. I already got on red. Yeah, let me know.

16:40Shannon Sharpe:I appreciate you back that's all getting healthy bro yes sir much respect to y 'all look forward to seeing you back out there boy good to see you what's up bro have us joining us right now is a 2022 fourth round pick from Nevada 2025 he had 55 receptions 724 yards and 6 touchdowns he is an unrestricted free agent this offseason he is Romeo Dobbs Romeo how you doing bro what's up what

17:09Chad Johnson:Man, I'm good, man. I'm blessed. I'm breathing, walking. All the little goodies, man. That's all I need.

17:14Jay Glazer:I got a question. Why you keep wearing that ugly-ass guardian cap? Hey, yo, hey. I'm feeling the head.

17:23Chad Johnson:Better safe than sorry, man.

17:24Jay Glazer:I got you. I got you. Listen, unrestricted free agent, right? Yeah. What you've done for the Packers, every time we watch a Packers game, it's 87 cutting up. You are the safety valve. You are the, what's the word I want to look for? The outlet for Brother Jordan Love. Yes, sir.

17:43Chad Johnson:What do you want to do? Man, I want to go back. I want to go back. And I love Green Bay. Yes, sir. You know what I'm saying? I love the structure. I love the coaching staff. I love how they go about things, man. And, you know, the rest, I'm going to just leave that unknown because I know, you know, I'm new to this game. I don't know what to expect. But I am aware of this business. I understand the situation in our room and what's going on, man. So, yeah, that's pretty much all I got for you.

18:12Jay Glazer:With this business, I'm not blind. I'm not Ray Charles. But I understand your value. You understand your value. I know what you deserve. I know what you can get there, and I know what you can get elsewhere. Yes, sir. I'm going to leave it at that because I don't want to get you in no trouble saying the wrong things. But go ahead, Arnold.

18:28Shannon Sharpe:Romeo, you guys in the division game, you went off. You had eight for above 24. you get out to that great lead what happened how did you let that game get away from you guys

18:38Chad Johnson:uh look man i'm still questioning that now you know and you know we all know it's not easy losing in this league especially in games like that um but to be very optimistic about this it was very clear that chicago had the better game plan you know what i'm saying the energy was right whatever they had going on they were aligned and there's absolutely nothing i can do up at this point you know kudos to them and again that just gives me an opportunity to review that not even just that game but just throughout the course of the year and just build off that moving

19:20Shannon Sharpe:forward and that's all you know what it wasn't so much the last game because you did lose the final game of the season and different than a playoff game is different than a regular season game because there's finality to it. But you lost your last four regular season games. So it wasn't like you were going into the playoffs on a high note. What transpired over the last quarter of the season that you, like, kind of got away from you guys?

19:42Chad Johnson:I don't know. I don't know. I really don't know. And I know there is some answers that must be said right now. Yes, sir. But, yeah, man, I have no idea what went wrong. But it was very clear that to lose like that, something went wrong. And, again, I'm in the midst of, you know what I mean, still.

20:06Jay Glazer:Trying to figure it out.

20:07Chad Johnson:I'm trying to deal with it. There was a lot of – last offseason, Josh Jacobs talked about the receiver room,

20:16Shannon Sharpe:saying we need a number one, we need a dog. They got one. And I'm sure you and Christian Watson and some of those other guys and Reed, y 'all didn't take too kindly to that. What you mean we need a number one? What you mean we need a dog? You don't see us every day?

20:30Chad Johnson:Look, man, I love Josh. I was just rapping with him. You know what I'm saying? Just before we took off. But again, man, it's just, you know, just it's the situation, bro. Like when you lose like that.

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24:18Chad Johnson:It's difficult. It's difficult. It's very, bro. Like some of these things, better left unsaid. Yes. To be completely honest about that. Right. But yeah, bro, it's just.

24:30Shannon Sharpe:Especially if you got to go back in that locker room. Because y 'all were looking at him sideways.

24:34Chad Johnson:No, no, no, no. Okay, well, not me. because, you know, I don't like to think in that manner. Right. Because I know when something is said like that, it is very easy to take it that way. Correct. Right. So, you know, I never really, and again, I know it's in the past, days in the past. I've never been, I never spoke to him about that. All we did was have great practices together, watch some tape together, go out, go bowling, whatever the case may be. Right. But that is not a lane you want to create. So I'm doing it.

25:07Jay Glazer:I got a question. Because, I mean, you're answering. Obviously, you want to be careful. You want to be PC. You don't want to piss anybody off, especially during the time that you're in. You're in a special place where life can change. Potential employer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So do you want to go back? You had an Instagram post that almost it was deemed like almost like a farewell to Green Bay. If you had it your way, would you love to go back to a team like the Packers where any given Sunday, you don't know whom day it's going to be? Or would you like to go somewhere where you could be the dominant, number one receiver, and you know that offense runs directly through you?

25:44Chad Johnson:That's a great question, bro.

25:50Chad Johnson:If I'm being honest, I would love, man. Take your time. Yeah. Being around them guys, bro. Yeah. I would love to be around them. I would love to be around them, bro. Yes, sir. And it was just the foundation that I feel like we set in that room. You know, we come in as young guys, you know what I mean? And not only did we understand that the situation was very unusual, like you get into the league, right? Yes. You got to get a guy like Stephon Diggs. You got to get a guy like yourself or you that, you know what I'm saying, went through those ropes. But when you get year one, year two, year three guys all together, growing together, I think there's beauty in that, bro.

26:34Shannon Sharpe:You know how this thing works. There's a pie. There's only so many slices in that pie. No matter how delicious that pie is, there's only so many slices to go around. Somebody eat it. You might get a little small piece or you might get a big piece or I might have to leave and get the piece that I've earned based on what I've done in this league over the last three, four, five years.

26:59Jay Glazer:Yes, sir. And you deserve, I know you don't want to say it. I'm going to tell you. I'm going to talk for you. I'm going to be your mouthpiece. You deserve the biggest piece of that pie because I understand what you can and can't do. And obviously there ain't no goddamn can't because I've watched you over the years. I understand the value that you bring to the Packers. I understand the value that you bring to another team if you afforded the opportunity to go somewhere else. Yes, sir. Since you don't want to say it, I'll say it for you. And I appreciate you. You that nigger. My bad. But I will say this.

27:28Chad Johnson:No, we good, man.

27:30Shannon Sharpe:Way to be authentic, bro. Yeah. I will say this. I would like to see a little better concentration because I've seen you make some. How the hell did he catch that? And then they throw you a smoke rod and you drop it. I just need to see that concentration level because I know it's there because I've seen you make the plays game in and game out. And I've seen you go stretches where you have three, four, five games. And I was like, okay, this guy is trending. He's a top ten receiver. And then I'll see you drop a routine stuff. And it seems to carry over. It's like you drop one and you don't let it go.

28:01Shannon Sharpe:It's like you're still thinking about that play the next play. And I would like to see you move past that to reach that ultimate goal because that's what the great ones can do. They can make a mistake, they can drop a pass, and it's over just like that.

28:13Chad Johnson:No, I appreciate that.

28:13Shannon Sharpe:That is very much noted. Very much noted. So, Romeo, Green Bay Packers wide receiver. We don't know for how much longer, but he says he wants to return. He had an unbelievable season, his best season thus far as a pro. He finished the year. Here, hold on, we'll be getting back to it.

28:29Jay Glazer:Who's our owner?

28:30Shannon Sharpe:Eight for 124, they're publicly true. That's a bunch of owners. Okay. Eight catches for$1.24 and a touchdown. That was in the wild card round. 55 catches, 724 yards and six touchdowns. When he's having to divvy up a lot of plays and a lot of routes to other receivers. But, bro, great season. Yes. Keep your head up no matter what. Don't fall in love with a destination. Yes, sir. Don't fall in love with a destination. Yes, sir. They'll use that against you.

28:57Jay Glazer:Oh, yeah.

28:59Shannon Sharpe:They'll use that against you. I was just saying, don't fall in love with a destination. Man. Love. So, appreciate you, Romeo. Thank you, man. Take care. Enjoy the rest. Enjoy your week. You promoting anything, or you just here? I'm just, I'm here at New Media. Okay. Here to speak for you. Yeah. Okay. Appreciate you, bro. Have a great day.

29:19Jay Glazer:Make sure y 'all give me that blank check over there.

29:23Chad Johnson:Y 'all have a blank check. Appreciate you, bro. Oh, man, what a squad.

29:31Shannon Sharpe:All right, we got another very special guest coming to join us. This guy is a four-time first-team All-Pro in 2020, 22, 23, and 24. He suffered a dislocated and a broken ankle in week six, which ended the season. There he is, the missile. Fred Warner. Fred, how you doing, bro?

29:49Jay Glazer:Hold on. Hold on. We got to introduce him right. Go ahead, Ben. One of the greatest linebackers in NFL history. The best linebacker in today's game right now. I love that talk. They're illustrious. They're comparable. 54. What are we talking about? That's right. What are we talking about, man? Y 'all tell me, man.

30:06Fred Warner:What are we talking about?

30:07Shannon Sharpe:One of the greatest. Yeah. You suffered that broken and dislocated ankle in week six. Right. How's the recovery going? Because they showed some tape, and I thought they did a great job of not like, look, come on. Yeah, we can probably, but he's not going to be afraid, and let's not run the risk of doing any further damage. Let's give him a full offseason. So when we come back for training camp or we come back for the OTAs, he's looking like the Fred Warner that we know he's supposed to look like.

30:33Fred Warner:Yeah, I mean, it's one of those injuries, right? Like, I remember all throughout my career, I've seen that happen to a couple cats, like Dak Prescott, for example. I think he had that nasty one when he was at home, right? Yeah. And it's kind of one of those ones is like a fear of yours. Like, you don't ever want to go through something like that because it just looked nasty. Right. And so when I'm in the moment and I feel this, boom, hit down my leg and I'm on the ground, I look at my stuff and it's pointing the opposite direction. And I'm like, oh, my gosh, like immediate shock went and went through my body.

30:56Fred Warner:Right. And so it is one of those things, though. And I am blessed that once they put it together and you start rehabbing and kind of getting the healing process going, you jump, you bounce back really quick. So the fact that I even had opportunity to return to practice during the playoffs, only three months removed from that speaks to everything you need to know. Like, it's just it's unbelievable.

31:14Jay Glazer:You know, you have the resources, you have the access to some of the best technology to be able to come back much faster than than others. as opposed to when we were playing. It was kind of different. How do you feel now in the rehab process when you're on the field? Do you have your lateral movement, your explosion? Is it all there? It's all there. Do you have the flexibility, everything?

31:31Fred Warner:Everything. And it's only going to get better as time goes on, right? It's just one of those things that it's your new reality. Like, if you go beat it up, you deal with the little swelling that kind of gets in there a little bit, the soreness, right? But as you keep going, man, you build that thing up from the ground up and do the things right. I think you mentioned it perfectly. Like, all the resources that I got now, I'm super blessed and happy that it happened later in my career where I have all these resources, all these relationships I've built up throughout my career. So now when it happened, it's like I'm calling this person, I'm texting this person.

31:59Fred Warner:Okay, boom, boom, boom, we got a plan together. You know, I felt horrible for old Cam Scadaboo. It was like two weeks after I did mine, he go and do his. And then old Judkins with the Browns, he had the same. I'm like, man, these guys are rookies that are just barely starting their career and they got to go through something like this. But those type of setbacks, man, it only make for a greater story when you do come back.

32:18Jay Glazer:Go ahead. I'm going to say one question before I talk about the defense and what you guys with the high of Raheem Ars and everything.

32:24Fred Warner:Yeah.

32:24Jay Glazer:What do you think about the noise and the talk and the conversations about the injuries that constantly happen to you guys, much more than any NFL team because of the plant that happens to be close to the training facility? Your thoughts, honestly.

32:37Fred Warner:No, I mean, if I'm being honest, I think it's a little silly. I will say. Thank you. The substation, the thing about it is it's been there for decades. Like, this ain't something that they just built up there the last five years or ten years that Kyle, you know, had his team here. They've been practicing over at that substation forever. And now to say, is there something to it? I don't know. There's not enough research that's been done. And I think that's something that they'll maybe look into more. But, you know, the game of football, y 'all know, it's a violent game. And is a substation attributed to me breaking my ankle in half?

33:09Fred Warner:No. You know, it's like there's this stuff that you just can't really overcome. Yes. And we do have an older roster. So, like, a lot of our star players, quote, unquote, and guys that you pay a lot of money to, like, when you're older, you're more susceptible to little things like hammies and all these little things. So, yeah, man, I mean, at the end of the day, we've got to always continue to find ways to be better health-wise because when we are healthy, we in that big game that they're playing this Sunday.

33:32Shannon Sharpe:Absolutely. Yeah. This might be a blessing in disguise because you say as you get older, you've got a year and a half. You've got a full year off. Fresh as a daisy right now. What if you have Raheem? And I don't know if he was there with you at any point in time you had cross paths with Raheem, but Kyle and Raheem go way, way back. They were both on the Washington staff together when Kyle was calling plays for his dad, and Raheem, I think, was the DB coach back then. So what are your expectations about this defense? You finally got Robert Sala back last year. You had D 'Amico, and you had some of your best years under D 'Amico.

34:06Shannon Sharpe:It was definitely. So what can you expect from Raheem to bring to this defense? You get Bosa back. You get some of those guys back that were injured, yourself included. So what can you expect from this defense? What can 49er fans expect from the 49ers moving forward?

34:20Fred Warner:The expectation is always dominance. That's all that my expectation always is, and it's always been that since we've been here. You mentioned that Kosala, D 'Amico, guys have built up this top five defense year in and year out, and that's the standard now, right? And we're just trying to give ourselves the best chance to win a Super Bowl. And in my opinion, man, defense wins championships. And so I think if we can build up a dominant group to help give us a chance to do that, I think Raheem is the best person for the job. I only hear glowing things about him from everywhere that he's been. His players love him, staff, coaches, everybody has loved him wherever he's gone.

34:51Fred Warner:So I know he'll do a fantastic job.

34:53Shannon Sharpe:Talk about this Super Bowl. You know this team, you're familiar with one team. That's right. 13-3 the last game of the season. You didn't play in that game, and then you go out there, and then they do a great job. They run the opening kickoff back. And for the most part, the game was really never close after that. And your guys are going to have to step up because the Rams are in that division, and they lost the NFC Championship game. The team that they lost to is here in the Super Bowl. Talk about the Seattle and the jump that they made from one year to the next. It seemed like they got better defensively.

35:21Shannon Sharpe:It seemed like they got better offensively. That Sam Darnold is like, oh, my goodness.

35:26Fred Warner:Yeah. No, I mean, they've done a really good job. You've got to tip your cap. Of course, I don't like any of the division rivals, and that's understood, right, Seattle? It don't even matter if you're the Cardinals. You beat up this year. It's still what it is. We just don't like you. But you've got to tip your cap when teams play a certain style of ball that you respect. And that's Seattle. Mike McDonald, the thing that he's instilled in their culture and the standard of play, you see it on every phase of their team, offense, defense, special teams. They're going to play physical. They're going to play a style of ball where they're relentless.

35:58Fred Warner:And they've done a great job through the draft building up. and you have these young star players in like a JSN and a Devon Witherspoon that you can lean on while also adding in free agents like Sam Darnold to be your franchise quarterback. You pick up Rashid Shahid on the trade. Ernest Jones the fourth. Ernest Jones. You talk about DeMarcus Lawrence. They loaded up their roster with the type of guys not only that are playmakers but guys that fit that way of play that they're doing.

36:25Jay Glazer:You talked about the standard, the standard in which you guys play at, right? and I think about the division, which was the toughest division during my time. It was AFC North. The toughest division in today's game is the NFC West. It's not even close. Do you like that challenge every year, or do you feel you're at somewhat of a disadvantage because of that?

36:47Fred Warner:No, I love the challenge because at the end of the day, first of all, I don't feel like we should be measuring ourselves up against Seattle or the Rams. No, you measure up yourself against the 49ers because at the end of the day, we are a franchise of Super Bowls. Five-time Super Bowl champs. Five-time Super Bowl champs. So the moment I stepped into that building, I knew what time it was. Like, you see them five Super Bowl trophies in the trophy case, and this is what the standard is. So we measure ourselves to that standard, which is winning Super Bowls. And so anytime we don't do that, it unfortunately is a failure.

37:14Fred Warner:Now, was this past season a complete failure? No, you can't really say that because the things that we dealt with were real and the things that we had to overcome. And a lot of young players coming in, playing meaningful minutes, that's only going to help us to what we're trying to do next season.

37:26Jay Glazer:do you think the naysayers can now be quiet and has brought purdy done enough to keep everybody

37:33Fred Warner:shush they'll never be quiet you know why because he was the last pick in the draft and that's exactly why they'll they'll never see you anything they'll never and they'll never see you as anything but that it doesn't matter he went a super bowl mvp he went multiple mvps of this league they're always going to say yeah but okay you know i'm saying yes sir and so in my mind he's by far the best linebacker, I'm talking about the best quarterback in this game. I like it. Because of what he's able to do on that field.

37:58Shannon Sharpe:He does. I love the fact that Matt Jones was able to keep you guys afloat while Purdy was doing what he's done. That's right. You bring him back. People don't realize it, but at that position, if you don't have an adequate backup, your season can go off a cliff. Right off the rails. As soon as the starter goes down. That's it. You're like, damn. And you know. I do know. I mean, you say everything publicly. Oh, yeah, we're going to keep the thing rolling. We got such But if you don't really have that guy, it's over.

38:25Fred Warner:You see, unfortunately for Denver, you got your guy Bo Nix. He breaks his ankle, and then they got to rely on Jarrett Stidham, who I think is a good quarterback, but he hasn't played. He hasn't played in two years. So then you're relying on him in a snowstorm to go win you an AFC championship. It's tough, right? Like the backup don't get the amount of reps that a starter does, and the starter is a starter for a reason.

38:44Shannon Sharpe:All pro, pro bowler, the best middle linebacker in football. In the game. There he is. I appreciate it. Fred Warner.

38:50Fred Warner:Yeah, thank you. Appreciate you, bro. I'm here on behalf of Experian, by the way, man. Let's help you save time and money. And credit. I like it. What's my credit? You check your credit score on the app as well, man. Hey, can you help me?

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39:05Jay Glazer:I got you. Yes, sir. I got you. Yes, sir.

39:07Fred Warner:Appreciate you, boy. Appreciate that, friend. Yes, sir. Thank you, man.

39:13Shannon Sharpe:Appreciate you, bro. Have a good one, man.

39:15Jay Glazer:Thank you, boss, man. Hey, get you some McDonald's. That shit heal up faster, boy.

39:18Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, there you go. Don't do that, friend. Don't do that. We done got older, friend. We can't process it like we once could. Woo! Okay. Who?

39:30Jay Glazer:Oh, Jay? I want to fight Jay. What a beautiful day. Chat, can y 'all hear me? How do I look? Huh? Can you see me? How's my hair? Okay, come on.

39:44Shannon Sharpe:Who's that? That's one of the boys. Oh. What's up, bro? How you doing, man? What's up, what? You good? What's up? Spent last year with the Kansas City Chiefs, one of the fastest players in the NFL. Here he is, ladies and gentlemen, Tyquan Thornton. Ty, how you doing, bro? Doing good, man. How you doing? I'm doing good, man. Man, you got off to such a great start. Superior. And it seems like once Rasheed came back or Hollywood came back, your numbers all of a sudden took a dip. What transpired that you were playing so well, you could easily be thought of as the best receiver? Yeah. Especially for the first four or five games.

40:22Shannon Sharpe:What transpired to cause your production to kind of taper off?

40:26Chad Johnson:Like you said, man, you know, a couple of guys came back, and, you know, those guys that they were, I would say, probably more familiar with or had plans for and something like that. So, you know, I don't really know what really went on behind them, closed doors and everything, but, like, you know, nothing changed for me at all. You know what I'm saying? I still showed up every day at work, you know what I'm saying, coming out there, doing what I do, going out there, making plays, and with the opportunities that I got.

40:52Jay Glazer:The good thing about it is that's the game that they do play. When people go down and you get your opportunity, you made the most of said opportunities once you got in there and looked like the best receiver on that team. So if you're not going back to Kansas City, you've already set yourself up for 31 other teams. Understanding that, okay, if we had this young fella, based on what he did when everybody else went down with the Chiefs, this is what he can do. This is the value that he adds to our team. So for you, that's part of the game. That's part of the business. You know, I understand that.

41:20Jay Glazer:You should understand it at this point as well. But you've already set yourself up for the future. Yeah.

41:25Shannon Sharpe:This is a situation because you did run 4-2-7 coming out of college. And it seems like everybody just wants to let you run deep. But I can run other things. I can run it out. I can run a dig. I can run it over. I can run a... I mean, let me do something other than go deep. Yes, I can get deep. I can run a post. I can run a nine route. But I can also run a speed out. I can also run an in cut. I can also run it over. Does it get frustrating? Because it seems to me, looking from the outside, and I don't know what they call, but it seems to me that every time I see you in there, you're just going deep.

41:58Chad Johnson:Yeah, exactly. I mean, it definitely gets frustrating, you know, because, I mean, everybody knows, like, once A to get on the field, he's going. Yeah, he's going vertical. Like, every time you turn on the clip, he's going vertical, you know. And that's why, like, you know, when we go in training camp and stuff like that, and when we're doing one-on-ones, you see me out there, I'm never going deep. Right. Never in one-on-ones going deep. It's always like I'm trying to work different routes to show you that I can get open and create separation. So, I mean, that's something that I still want to show.

42:23Chad Johnson:Go out there and show that I can run a deep over, a deep out, you know what I'm saying, a dagger. You know what I'm saying? Go over there and get open consistently.

42:29Jay Glazer:Yeah. Well, you're going to set yourself up, boy. You're going to set yourself up. Do you want to go back to the Chiefs? Be careful. I mean, you could be PC, but would you like to go back? I want an opportunity to play.

42:38Chad Johnson:Yeah. So, if I go back to the Chiefs and play with Pat and get my fair share of targets, I would love to do that.

42:44Jay Glazer:There we go.

42:44Chad Johnson:I would love to do that.

42:45Jay Glazer:There we go. You heard that, Mr. Reed? Mr. B enemy? Come on now.

42:49Shannon Sharpe:Red beach. Ty, appreciate you, man. Thank y 'all, man. What's up? I'm going to catch you today. Stay healthy. Best of luck in the future, man. Thank y 'all, man. Thank you. Thanks for joining us.

43:01Shannon Sharpe:Break your ass in here, Jay.

43:03Jay Glazer:Jay. Come on. Jay, let's wrestle, Jay. Come on. Jay, let's wrestle. Yeah. Hey, Jay, I'm looking.

43:14KevOnStage:You're a cute kid.

43:14Jay Glazer:Hey. What's up, bro? Jake, what's up, baby? You good? Hold on, let me get up. Let me get up. Wait, baby. Hey, baby. How's it going? Are you good? I need you to train. Let's do it. I need you to fight this man. Who? This man. No, you're not. I promise you, Jake. Yeah. Let's keep going. Let me tell you what happened. No. No, no, I'm serious. You're not going to fight him. Jake, I'm going to fuck him up. I promise you. When did you start training? Seven years ago. Okay. He's been able to support you. Right, but I've been fighting all my life, Jake. I have a fight all my life, too.

43:48KevOnStage:I like this.

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44:04KevOnStage:The best. There you go. My doll, Jay Glazer. Jay, how you doing, bro? Doing great, man. Glad to be gone. Man, you guys are going to have me on more. You want to come on? Fuck yeah, I want to come on. I like it. I do it all the time. Okay, good, good, good. Yeah, you guys know me.

44:22KevOnStage:The only time I don't is, you know, when the red light comes on the fox. Well, Harry Long used to have a fuck counter in our meetings. Yeah. And, like, I didn't know what was going on. And I would say, you know, I'm from Jersey, so that's how I talk. So I'd say, oh, motherfucker, this. And also, boom, boom, boom. and one day in our production meetings, all of a sudden Howie's like, 72. I'm like, what is he talking about? And I said, fuck's he talking about? 73. And he had a fuck counter. And how many times did I say fuck going into the meeting? But red light comes on, I don't say shit. I'm good.

45:02KevOnStage:Right. Okay, okay. I'm a professional.

45:05Shannon Sharpe:Help me understand this. There's been a lot of talk over the last week. We found out last week that Coach Belichick didn't get in on the first ballot. Stupid shit of all time. And we also just found out in the last couple of days, Mr. Kraft also didn't get in on the second ballot. That's dumb too. Jay, what have you heard? Because I know you've heard from some of the voters. What's going on? No, no, I don't. But you guys know me. Yeah.

45:29KevOnStage:I'm not part of that crew. Right. I've never been allowed to play with the children there. Like, I always did it differently. You guys remember, 93 I came in. Yeah. And I was like, man, I don't have, I started covering the Giants. And I was like, I don't have the same education. I got kicked out of my first college. I went down to box to Westchester University, Pennsylvania. They kicked me out the day boxing season ended. And so it's like, all right, they're using me for that. And went back home, started doing Jersey shit, and then moved to New York to go to Pace College, downtown Manhattan, because it was the cheapest place to live.

46:06KevOnStage:and but I eventually like I was like boxing bouncing bartending doing I was being a bouncer for a crime family at what used to be Studio 54 and then I think it became it after that but it was like it wasn't the greatest career choice for me and and I actually signed to box for the Genovese crime family. That was going to be my job. But eventually, thank God, I never showed up to that. I was like, God, hit me with a lightning bolt the day before I was going to my first practice at the final room's gym in Jersey City. God hit me with a lightning bolt. What are you doing? You're not even Italian.

46:55KevOnStage:You're Jewish. What are you doing? Thank God I never showed up. And they all got rounded up in international drug ring six months later, right? Thank you, my best friend, God Almighty. So I get in there, I cover the Giants. I'm like, man, how could I be different? And I was going to start. When people turn to healthcare for weight loss, they're looking for real support.

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49:19KevOnStage:Check us out on YouTube and listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeart app or wherever you get your podcasts. Start relationships. And all those old school writers back in the day was, I don't know, when did you start? 90. 90, right? Remember how it was back then. They used to use their pen as a weapon. I said, I'm going to start relationships. I have more in common with you guys than them. And I got destroyed for it. So for 11 years, I could not get a full-time job because every time an editor or a producer or whatever would ask about me, they said no no he's not objective he's friends with the players right and i just saw like dude i'm not covering the fucking middle east for sports right but i destroyed but as a result because i did it my way i never got included into the group of you know hall of fame or ap or

50:15Shannon Sharpe:nothing i've never been part of it and i don't really give a fuck but you did you broke the story about Spygate. How much? Thank God. Now, you know. Thank you, my best friend God Almighty in heaven. But there's a situation where people, many believe that Spygate was worse than them was let on. How much does Spygate play in a role that Coach Belichick not getting in and Mr. Kraft not getting in the ballot? I think, like, people want to use.

50:45KevOnStage:Again, I can't talk first time because I don't talk to those guys. Right, you're not in the room when they would. Yeah, so, like, if they want to hold on to that, they can hold. But that's like saying, okay, we're going to keep Lawrence Taylor out because he did blow.

50:58Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

50:58KevOnStage:Stupid shit of all time. If you're the greatest, you're the greatest. You know what I mean? That's it. Yeah. Okay? And he won plenty of games without it. So, I don't know. I think also, like, because he wasn't great with the media, it was their vendetta. And this is not me knowing a personal, just from the outside in. How do you not put him first? Right. That means no coach should ever be a first ballot in the history of life.

51:27Shannon Sharpe:You know why I get pushed back? Why I push back on everybody? Because they say he was average without Coach Belichick, was average without Tom Brady. Ask me, what was Chuck Knoll without Terry Bradshaw? What was Coach Lombardi without Bart Starr? Now, see, they never used that argument because Bart Starr, I mean, Coach Lombardi was a first-ballot Hall of Famer. Shanahan without Bill Witt. Chuck Knull was a first-ballot Hall of Famer. So, I mean, and Don Shuler was a first-ballot Hall of Famer. But look at his quarterbacks. He had Johnny Unitas, Bob Greasy, and Dan Marino. I mean, well, damn, you got the top 100 players of all time.

52:06KevOnStage:I always say, when you have a quarterback, all of a sudden, you know how to pick players, your coaches can coach, Coach, you look like you're fantastic. When you don't have a quarterback, everyone's a dumb shit. Can't pick players. No one knows how to coach.

52:21Shannon Sharpe:You know what I mean? It really is that much. You also said that Mike Tomlin was done coaching. Do you believe that Mike Tomlin is done coaching in the NFL, or does he take a year off, get a TV gig, and come back? Because all the other coaches that's ever coached in Pittsburgh, Chuck Noll never coached again. Coach Cowan, although many believed it, and he maybe teased it, he never coached again. Is this a similar situation?

52:44KevOnStage:I think he's done. Look, he told me and Rondé Barber two years ago. Yeah. But also it's like, he's like, hey, this is my plan. You can't say this. Right. Don't show my head. Right. I'm telling you, you're my guy. That's it. So, you know, and that's why I'm where I am in life. And I've never burned anybody. Right. I don't go for the scoop. I go for the relationship. And our relationship is deep. Like, I coach his son in life now. He's 22, and it's kind of fine his way. But my son, Sammy, who's been lost a lot, my team was there for him. So this is like beyond all this stuff. So it's also great.

53:30KevOnStage:I'm known as the gatekeeper of my team. It's pretty good. I'm the only one who talks to him. Right? But that's like, yeah, you know, last year I thought he was going to hang it up. he decided one more I thought he was going to be done so until it happens it happens but this year kind of week 8 I'm like can I have any way this is going to change your mind? nope I said can I report it the last week? nope he said but in fairness I don't think it's fair if my players find out from you I think they need to find out from me I don't have to have every scoop I'm good.

54:07Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

54:07KevOnStage:I've done pretty well, right? Yeah. By the way, Spygate you were talking about? Yeah. So, man, that was my second week in studio. Right. Fox, right? And the last thing Howie and Terry and Jimmy wanted to, was some new guy taking up airtime, right? Yeah. So, it was my second week inside. I used to do games. Remember I would do, right? I would do sidelines. Yeah. Right? And then I do my scoopage from there, right? And they're like, all right, listen, guys. Jay is second week. Jay's now going to have normally it's going to be three segments. We're going to still the same amount of time, but we're going to spread them out.

54:53KevOnStage:But today we're going to have four. And Howie Long gets up. And you guys know Howie's a bad motherfucker. I know Howie. Howie's a sick.

55:02Shannon Sharpe:I played with Howie. Yeah, and he's, you have to keep the beast in the box, right?

55:08KevOnStage:And, like, how he ended up one of his teammates' careers one time, and the guy tugged on his jersey, it was their center. And I think he broke, like, his collarbone, his eye socket. Like, he fucked him up. So we were asking him, we're like, hey, dude, like, what did this guy do? He's like, he tugged on my jersey. And we're like, what else did he do? What do you have to understand? He tugged on my jersey. And we're going, so you broke his eye sockets and his collarbone. He's like, did you guys not understand what I'm saying? He talked to my jersey. So Terry goes, well, don't you think the crime maybe didn't fit the punishment?

55:45KevOnStage:Right. And he literally goes, are you guys not understand what I'm saying? He talked to my jersey. Right. Okay, let's move on. Let's move on. He's a sick bastard, right? So he gets up and he goes, wait a minute. You're telling me this kid. And he points at me. Don't look at me. He points at me. And he goes, this kid has a spy gate video. And you're giving him extra time. And they go, yes, Scott Ackerson. He has the video. He has the actual video. Yes, this kid has the video. And I'm like, oh, my God, this is terrible. This is horrible. And then Jimmy looks at me and he goes, you really got the video?

56:25KevOnStage:I said, yeah. and Bradshaw looks over and he goes you have the actual video? I said yeah and he goes

56:36KevOnStage:he's okay with me so thank you my best friend God Almighty in heaven

56:41Jay Glazer:and everything changed that day for me. Listen you've been a huge advocate very outspoken when it comes to mental health. How does it make you feel to see more players be up front more boisterous about their mental health issues as opposed to before when everybody was suppress it and not let it be known because it was frowned upon.

56:59KevOnStage:Yeah. You know what's so funny, man? Because I have, you got to ask yourself, man, how many drugs did my parents do when they conceived me? But I have clinical depression, anxiety, ADHD, bipolar, OCD anxiety, insomnia. Other than that, I'm a model of stability. Right. But for years, I thought I was cursed. And you just hit. And honestly, dude, I would go out when I would have, I would say the beast got out of the box. I would take a bunch of Vicodin, a bunch of Adderall. I'd go fucking hog wild. I'd start fights. And I would rather do that and get canceled than anyone know I have depression or anxiety.

57:46KevOnStage:How backwards is that?

57:47Jay Glazer:Very. So I used to think I was cursed. now I think God blessed me with all these so I could free us all,

57:58KevOnStage:liberate us. Like, no one's questioning. Listen, you're fucking crazy. Yeah. You're fucking crazy. You can't be great and not be crazy. Yes. Right? And as men, we're told you don't say this shit. Right. And look, for me training all these players in MMA, my whole thing is like if you were hurt and tired, you will never, ever, ever, ever know. we don't show that shit right and then i realized man i'm the problem right i'm permeating what our dad's taught us our uncles taught us so i'm like you need that in football and fighting okay you'll never know we'll be relentless and as you think we're getting tough fuck i am you will never know but now guys off that field outside of that cage yes now i want a new unbreakable mindset where we open up and my relationships have never been better.

58:50They've turned this right here,

58:53KevOnStage:this bracelet right here, my most prized possession. Michael Phelps gave it to me where with the promise, basically he wouldn't kill himself. That's a fucking brotherhood. Right? This is the baddest of the bad. It's turned friendships into brotherhoods and sisterhoods. and it's really, I feel like my life's beginning. I don't have to be the glaze, that character that I created. Right, right. You know what I mean? And now I get to be real and help people and build people up and learn from them. And that, yeah, and it got me with my beautiful wife over there where I was able to do, like, get the help I needed and work on things.

59:38KevOnStage:And we were together for a little bit and I was up to my old tricks and I sabotaged shit because I didn't feel I was worthy of being loved. So I fucked it all up. She split up with me. I flew back to Arizona. You'll see a guy here today named Mark Kerr. Yeah. Who's a smash and a shooter. Yeah. I moved back to Arizona to fight with him and Ryan Bader and all my old fight team, Aaron Simpson. Because for me, love was getting punched in the face and getting abused. Right. Right? And now, like, I went and did all this work, and now we got back together, and I never knew I was able to...

1:00:20Shannon Sharpe:Love and receive love.

1:00:22KevOnStage:Yeah, I never felt worthy of it. Yeah. So, like, so it motivated me to do all these great things from the outside, because I couldn't feel love from the inside, because I wasn't fucking worthy of it. Yeah, yeah. I was a piece of shit. Yeah.

1:00:35Shannon Sharpe:Appreciate it. Jake Lazor. Yay! NFL insider for Fox. Real quick, real quick, real quick.

1:00:40KevOnStage:I'm here for Kelbury, okay? Kelbury. Kelbury. So it's an ADHD drug that I think. It's a non-stimulant. So I got diagnosed with ADHD in 1989. They put me on stimulants. When you have a depression, the stimulants are bad, right? And this is my journey. But, you know, you get those peaks and those valleys. Yes. Valleys are bad. So I found something called Kelbury, which is a non-stimulant. I take it at night. And when I got 19 roommates in my head talking all at once, now I have two. Yeah. It's really helped me out. Right. So it's called Calgary. So I just want people to know that. It's really helped me out a lot.

1:01:17KevOnStage:All right? Appreciate you, bro.

1:01:18Jay Glazer:Love you guys, man. Thank you. Have me on more, man. Have me on more. I'm ready. No, you got to train me. Don't forget. Okay. Okay. You really want to fight James Harrison? I mean, I'm going to beat his ass. What are you talking about? I really want to.

1:01:30Shannon Sharpe:We good. Jay. We're talking about it. We have to go. We good. We good. Jake, ladies, come on. Come on. I love you, baby. Appreciate it. All right, Jake. Appreciate you, man. Thank you, man. All right. Next guest coming to the stage is the Houston Texans cornerback. He's a 2025 Pro Bowler. It is last season. He had four interceptions, 17 PDU, a two-time national champ, and guess what? He had an opportunity to play against both the Seahawks and the Patriots. Here he is, Kamari Lassiter.

1:02:05Shannon Sharpe:How you doing, bro?

1:02:10KevOnStage:Appreciate it. Come on. You want to have your phone on you? No.

1:02:16Shannon Sharpe:Put your mic up. Kamar, yes. Yep. Kamar, you played against both teams, Seahawks and the Patriots. You got to put some money that matters to you. Who you taking in the game? Seahawks. You taking the Seahawks? Yes, sir. What is it about the Seahawks that left the impression that, you know what, I understand both teams are more than worthy of being here. Both teams have earned and deserve the right to be here. What is it about the Seahawks that makes you think that they have the edge in this ballgame?

1:02:48Chad Johnson:They're just more dangerous. You know, the Patriots, they're good, but the Seahawks are very dangerous. Like, at every level on both sides of the ball,

1:02:55Shannon Sharpe:like, there's a play that's waiting to be made. They can run, obviously, with K-9 running the football. JSN. I mean, the way he, the effortlessness in which he runs, he's like, he's just floating. He gives you no tales on when he's going to break in or break out or he's going to keep straight ahead. What is it that you like about his game? Because you covered a lot of receivers. You get the ones, you get the twos, and you've seen a lot of receivers over 18 weeks, over 19, excuse me, 20 weeks of the season. What is it about JSN that makes him so special and so unique?

1:03:28Chad Johnson:He's very fluid, I would say. You know what I'm saying? Like you just said, he doesn't give many tells. And I can see a lot of tells, but he doesn't give them often. And I think that's what kind of just separates his game. You know, he's able to make every catch and run every route. And he's able to go different places within the offense. And they move him around a lot, and he's able to make the plays.

1:03:46Jay Glazer:Hey, listen, I've talked about you tremendously. Damn near every week. I'm sure you've heard some of the things I've said about you because I love exceptional DB play. Appreciate it. Your teammates, they call you crazy. Your teammates, they call you a lunatic because of your style of play, loving to play man-to-man. Does it surprise receivers with your style of play? And have you had any difficulties with anybody that just stands out to you from the receiver position? Never had no difficulties. I feel like every time I step on the field, it's either a good bump or I did something wrong.

1:04:21Chad Johnson:Every time I lose a rep, I feel like I did something wrong. I don't feel like people just go out there and beat me. I feel like there's something that I either step wrong, I wasn't locked in. That's just how I feel. Like, that's how I agree with myself. I feel like I'm here to step with anybody, you know what I'm saying? So I don't think that it's crazy. I just think that I just think different. Like, I'm just wired differently. Like, I got everything. I'm here out the mud, you know what I'm saying? So I just feel like whenever I go out somewhere, I'm putting my best foot down every time.

1:04:46Jay Glazer:Yeah, and it showed from a rookie. Yes, sir. Last year, it showed. Appreciate it. Tell him how many times I've talked about it. Yeah. It's his style of play. Yeah. And we always talk about Stingley, Stingley, Stingley. But hold on now. Yeah. We're all tripping. Hold on now. We got somebody just as good that brings just as much value at the position at the third level on the other side. Yeah. And I appreciate your work. Thank you.

1:05:07Shannon Sharpe:But you understand, because you have Stingley on the other side, they're going to try you. Oh, yeah. And I love it.

1:05:13Chad Johnson:Sting, look, I tell Sting all the time. I was just talking to him yesterday. I'm like, Sting, bro, I fuck with you, dog. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, you one-on-one, and that helps me be one-on-one because they're not going to shoot. They think I'm sweet. They think you're the weak. I think I'm sweet. You know what I'm saying? Let's go to the other side.

1:05:28Shannon Sharpe:Let's go to the other side. Try it. Hey, look here. When you're trying to go into someone's house, you touch. Oh, that's locked. Yeah. That was locked. Oh, let me go. Let me step on this one. Yeah. Because you're on the other side. Yes, sir. Hold on. But when you look at your defense, you guys are a physical defense at every level. You got Algier and you got Totolo. and the DBs, Petrie, bro, y 'all are a physical defense. What is your mentality? When D 'Amico got there, what was your guys' mentality? It was like, okay, let's lock in because looking at you guys and OTAs and looking at you guys and training camps, we have an opportunity to be special.

1:06:09Chad Johnson:Yeah, I'm not going to lie. From the moment I got drafted here, I was like, dang, this is a good defense. Last year, we kind of gelled together. This year, we already had a year up under our belt. I mean, like you said, you look all three levels on the back end. You got CB, me, Petrie, Sting. Then you got Hendahl. You got Zs. Then on our line, come on, you ain't even say nothing about Will and Daniel. You ain't even say nothing about Will and Daniel. Y 'all got Rankin.

1:06:33Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all got Rian, Rian, Rian.

1:06:35Chad Johnson:We got a lot of people and we're just ticking time bombs. There's a play waiting to be made every single time we step on the field. It's just fun going out there. I knew as soon as we stepped on the field this year for OTAs, I'm like, oh yeah, we're going to be one of them once. How has D 'Amico Ryan's helped you as a player evolve and get better

1:06:53Jay Glazer:this early in your career, you think? He's helped me a lot. He just pushes me.

1:06:57Chad Johnson:Like, I feel like I respect Coach a lot because he drafted me, obviously. So I feel like there's a level of belief that he had in me from the jump. And he just continued to push me. Like, he just wants me to be better. He wants me, like, this year, he's like, you had a good year, but I need you to go ahead and go to another level. Yeah, so it's just like, he said that last year, he's like, okay, you had a good year, now let's go to this level. So I just feel like the more that you push me, like the more you put on my plate, I'm ready to eat, you know what I'm saying?

1:07:24Jay Glazer:Put your GM hat on. Okay. You're the GM of the Houston Texans. What is it that you guys need to do to get over the hump? To me, from the outside looking in, defensively, they don't get no better than that. What do you think y 'all guys need to do to get over the hump so you can be in a situation like the Seahawks and the Patriots are? You're trying to set me up. Oh, no, no, no. You can answer PC. That's all. That's why I said put the GM hat on. GM, I think what we need to do, we got everything.

1:07:54Chad Johnson:We have everybody. We just, I think depth because, you know, injuries happen. Absolutely. You know, injuries derail a lot of teams. So I feel like depth will be, you can never have too much depth, and I just feel like you just got to make the plays. Yeah.

1:08:10Shannon Sharpe:Because you saw it when CJ went down, your quarterback kept you afloat. Of course. Because a lot of times we just saw it, and Fred was on here, and we saw it with the Broncos. Their quarterback goes down, and you need your backup to come in in one game. Yeah. And that's the difference because the margin of the NFL of winning and losing is so small because everybody at that level at one point in time was all state, all American, all world, all this, all that. So it's not like it's Georgia playing TCU. It ain't one of those situations. You know, when I first got to the league, a guy told me, he said, Shannon, every guy that's in the NFL can make every other guy in the NFL look foolish.

1:08:55Shannon Sharpe:Of course. If you just look at somebody and talk about where they were drafted in the seventh round, or they this, or they that, the best, the worst receiver on a given day can make the best DB look foolish. Of course. And y 'all know how it is.

1:09:08Chad Johnson:It's like the margin for error is so small, like you said. And it's like that's where the ball is down to making the plays. But it takes so much to be able to make the play. You've got to be in the right position. You've got to be able to do a lot of stuff. And we just got to lock in on the details, man.

1:09:20Shannon Sharpe:Man, unbelievable season, man. Best of luck. Great season. Appreciate y 'all. Don't get satisfied. Oh, no. Don't get satisfied. Continues to eat. Yes, sir. Overeat. Yes, sir.

1:09:30Jay Glazer:Yeah. Overeat. I want some of that work, too, bro. Look, I ain't running. Hey, I want some of that work.

1:09:35Chad Johnson:Look, look, I've been waiting to get up. I've been waiting to get up with you for a long time. Oh, come on. You sure? Look, back in the day. Uh-huh. Talk to me. They used to call. Like, around the way, they used to be like, you look like little Ocho. Oh, what? Yeah. They used to say that. They used to say that. Yeah? Yeah, they used to say that.

1:09:50Jay Glazer:Well, you know these feet still work just fine, man. They do. Where your cleats at? Huh? Where your cleats at?

1:09:54Shannon Sharpe:They in the trunk. Hey, mine in the trunk, too. Appreciate you, bro. Congratulations. Appreciate you, bro. Stay healthy. Keep stay hungry. Yes, sir.

1:10:04KevOnStage:Appreciate you, brother.

1:10:20Shannon Sharpe:Okay, okay Where you go to beach

1:11:02Shannon Sharpe:All right, joining us now. Back to back. On Nightcap Radio Row. Another. The best. Yes, sir. Okay, joining us now here on Nightcap Radio Row. My guy. Here he is, number 21 from the Cleveland Browns, Denzel Ward. Denzel, how you doing, bro? I'm good, man. Appreciate being here, man. Thanks for having me. Another unbelievable season. But at some point in time, you're going to get tired of having these unbelievable seasons individually and wanting to have an unbelievable season team-wise. Yeah. Obviously, new coach coming in, you're probably going to have a new DC.

1:11:37Chad Johnson:Oh, don't tell me that.

1:11:40Shannon Sharpe:Well, considering some of the things that Todd said about, yeah, it ain't looking good. I'm just saying from the outside, it ain't looking good. What do you guys need to do to make sure, like, Miles is going to win defensive player of the year unanimously. You are a top 2-3 corner. So the individual success that you've enjoyed and that Miles have enjoyed, but at some point in time, you play a team sport. This ain't golf. This ain't tennis. And so the individuality is fine and good. And we'll talk about that once come time to Hall of Fame. But right now, I want to have some team success. I'm tired of getting my eyes beat in, and we lose it.

1:12:17Shannon Sharpe:But, man, hell of a game, Denzel. Hell of a game after the game.

1:12:20Chad Johnson:Yeah, I think that's the biggest thing. That's probably why the decisions were made, how they were made, with bringing Tom Munkin in, an offensive-minded coach. and we struggled, to be real, we struggled on offense. Correct. We struggled on offense and wasn't able to put points on the board and you know wasn't playing that complimentary football. So once we can do that and hopefully Coach Bunk can come in and change the offensive organization around, I think we're going to do well. We've got to continue to stay up there for the defense and make plays and be that defensive player of the year and top corner in the league and we're going to make it happen.

1:12:52Jay Glazer:Listen, defensively, y 'all are going to be fine. It doesn't matter. Offensively, we know it needs work. There's some things, there's some pieces that are missing to that puzzle. Obviously, the first thing that needs to be situated, you need to figure out who's going to be quarterback number one and then build from there and then go around that. Brother Fanning, what's Brother Fanning's first name? Harold. Boy, he is the real deal. That's one piece. Now, continue to add pieces to the puzzle. So we're all physically— I need some receivers. I ain't going to hold you. What? They need some receivers.

1:13:18Jay Glazer:Okay. Why receivers? I'm going to let that go. I'm going to let you have it. He know he's there every day. He's here. Listen, defensively, you can have the goddamn Pope coaching the defense. Y 'all going to be right. Oprah can come coach the goddamn defense. Y 'all going to be okay based on the personnel that you do have. If you put your GM cap on, hypothetically speaking, what changes would you make to your Cleveland Browns so you guys could have some success and get over the hump and not only compete in the AFC North in that division, but in the NFL in general, in the whole?

1:13:48Chad Johnson:I think really everything you just said, like we got to solidify that quarterback position, see who that number one guy's going to be. I know we're going to have some guys coming back competing. So once we solidify that, but we got receivers. You know, I'm going heavy offense. Yeah, O-line receivers. I'm going heavy offense and bringing guys in to make us better.

1:14:07Jay Glazer:But speaking of receivers, you know, I'm –

1:14:11Chad Johnson:Man, this old man won't see his ass down.

1:14:13Jay Glazer:You know.

1:14:15Chad Johnson:They in the closet. Them cleats in the closet. They in the car.

1:14:19Shannon Sharpe:Okay. You remember a little Bow Wow movie, Like Mike, when he throw the shoes up over the wide? That was his cleats.

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1:17:00Shannon Sharpe:We can't go back and get them. But like when you're coming into the season, what are you focusing on? So, you know, obviously, you know, I used to like, OK, number one goal was to stay healthy. Then I was like, OK, if I could get X, Y, and Z, catch his yard, make a Pro Bowl, be an All-Pro, team get to the Super Bowl, win the division, things like that. So when Denzel Ward starts putting down his top 10 things that he wants to accomplish in an upcoming season, the 2026 season, what's on your board?

1:17:28Chad Johnson:Yeah, I think, like, similar to what you said, like, going into the season, like, all right, I'm trying to stay healthy. We just getting back to playing fast football, reacting and everything, trying to stay healthy. But then, all right, now I'm trying to make plays, and I got to be the best. They expect me to be the number one corner out here and lock boys down, lock my side of the field down. That's what I got to do. So that's my goal every game, give us no catches, make plays, and be that guy out there on the field. You like traveling? I will. I like doing whatever to help the team win. But honestly, I like being on one side, locking that side of the field down.

1:17:59Chad Johnson:You could double up everything on the other side and let me do what I do on this side.

1:18:03Shannon Sharpe:You like playing on the offensive right side or the offensive left side? Left.

1:18:08Jay Glazer:Left? Yeah. That's why I like the lineup, too.

1:18:12Chad Johnson:That's what I like. I want to see people like you. Me? Yeah. Now you don't want to see me. I want to see you. So you like covering the X receiver or the Z?

1:18:20Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, it don't matter. It really don't matter. I like that. Because them Zs now, them Zs, you know, the Zs were tough. I mean, Ocho like being on the ball because a lot of guys like being off the ball because that gives me a little bit more separation. That's real. Because now if you step and I'm off the ball, okay, I'm gone.

1:18:39Jay Glazer:Yeah. You know, I've talked to multiple receivers. Damn near every NFL receiver in the league. And I always ask them, who gives you the most difficulty? Who gives you one of your best challenges? And the same two names come up. Denzel Ward and Pat Sertain. From a technical standpoint, I say it all the time on every show, any platform, even when I see you in person. I've never seen anything like that. as smooth, as patient. Dog, my favorite rep from you, yes, I'm finna glaze right now. I don't care what y 'all say. It's the one against my brother T. Higgins. Where you're off a little back, you shadowing, and he gets a step on you.

1:19:14Jay Glazer:You turn, you relax, you ain't patient, and you just play the hands. He end up picking the ball. I'm like, what?

1:19:20Shannon Sharpe:Man, listen, man. Sometimes you have to play through the receiver. Oh, yeah. But I think that's the biggest thing. Because a lot of times, small corners are great with small receivers, shifty guys, and then they struggle with big guys. Do you find yourself struggling? So what do you like? Because big guys normally have a problem, like Revis. A guy like Revis, a big receiver, he was going to eat them up. Because he's so patient and he's stronger than you think. Man, I'm going to run through him.

1:19:50Chad Johnson:And next thing you're like, God dang it, let me go. Yeah, facts, facts. I don't really feel I'm a small corner, though. I got a little good size to me. But for me, I think it just depends on the personnel, like who the player is. It's not like I don't like going against big receivers or little receivers, but who that guy, are they able to use their body type? So like a George Pickens, he's a taller receiver. He's good at it. He's going to play through contact. Yeah, he's going to play through contact. So that might be a little tougher matchup. But fast guys, Tyreek Hill or something like that.

1:20:20Chad Johnson:I like going against guys like that too. But it's really just whatever they're good at, are they able to do that well, better than what I can do?

1:20:29Jay Glazer:It's a funny thing I like about him, too. And I've been studying your game for a long time because you know how I love and feel about DB play. I've seen you change your game plan. I've seen you change your style of play based on the receiver that's in front of you.

1:20:41Chad Johnson:Yeah, definitely.

1:20:42Jay Glazer:I've seen it. So I understand what you're going through and what you're thinking because it's all the chess match at that point based on the skill set that's in front of you.

1:20:50Chad Johnson:Exactly. Yeah, that's how I feel. Like, if you just stand there and you know I'm doing the same thing every single time, okay, now you're making a plan. Okay, I know he about to line up and do this, so I'm going to give him this release, and I know he going to go here. So that's why I like to kind of play the game. Like, okay, I'm going to switch it up a little bit. That's why it seems like we play Pittsburgh. Like, they challenged me, like, the last three plays of the game or whatever. So I, like, changed up. I ain't played the same technique on all the plays. I changed it up. I might jump jam them, or I might get offense.

1:21:18Chad Johnson:So just switching it up and just playing a chess game. I'm just trying to figure that out.

1:21:21Shannon Sharpe:They're going to take their third best receiver and try you on fourth and goal.

1:21:26Chad Johnson:Did that make any sense to you? I didn't understand it because, I mean, they didn't try me all game. But I know, like, at some point in the game, you got to come to me. You got to come and just see what you got. But, yeah, I didn't understand three plays in a row why they did.

1:21:40Shannon Sharpe:JSN. You watch JSN. I don't know if you had the opportunity to cover JSN. But when you watch him on film and you watch what he does and how he just, he's just like, ain't no wasted motion. There's no chalk to his game. The out looks like the end. The end looks like the goal. The goal looks like the seven. I mean, everything is like he's falling off the table. And nothing, nothing is wasted. When you watch him, is that what makes him so special? What makes him so unique?

1:22:13Chad Johnson:Yeah, just like that. I agree with that. That makes it tough when he's making his routes look the same every single time. He's running straight and, oh, he could break it in. Or running straight, he could break it out. So it's like, okay, you got to stay true, play it true. But he's a smooth route runner, great hands, great routes, and he's making everything look the same.

1:22:33Shannon Sharpe:I'm asking you to put some money that means something to you. Who you got, the Patriots or the Seahawks?

1:22:38Chad Johnson:I got a lot of respect, Coach Brable, and what he was able to do for the Patriots in one year. But I got Seattle. Seattle.

1:22:44Jay Glazer:Because of the defense, huh?

1:22:47Chad Johnson:You give me an answer because of the defense? I got it because of Jackson Smith. I got it because of both. They both been doing well. I got it for both.

1:22:56Shannon Sharpe:Okay. Because they can run the football with K-9. Sam Darnold has been playing unbelievable. He just has to one more game. He's done great in the postseason. He hasn't turned the ball over. You know you turn the ball over and come postseason. You're going home. You look at the team that turned the ball over in the postseason. All of them going home. Everybody went home. You look at the Texans. You look at the Broncos. You look at the Reds. You look at if you turn the football over, you are going home.

1:23:22Chad Johnson:That's what we look at every year. What's the turnover margin? If you turn the ball over, intercept the ball, okay, that team more likely to win. You know, you take care of the ball, you're more likely to win. Yeah.

1:23:33Jay Glazer:Oh, matter of fact, man, you seen Myles Garrett?

1:23:35Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:23:36Jay Glazer:Where he at?

1:23:37Chad Johnson:I don't know.

1:23:38Jay Glazer:He promised me that sack jersey, that 23, as soon as he got that sack. He told me he was going to give me that jersey. He's sending it to the Hall of Fame. So you know what I got to do to him.

1:23:46Chad Johnson:You can go just take it out the little case. Go to the Hall of Fame and...

1:23:49Jay Glazer:No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

1:23:51Chad Johnson:He got to see me. Oh, yeah, okay. I don't know how good that's going to go. You want me to tell you how it's going to go? Let me hear.

1:23:57Jay Glazer:I'm from the Whoopi.

1:24:01Chad Johnson:What kind of... What do you say? Like, Madden? No, I come out with Deeds. I don't know, man.

1:24:06Jay Glazer:He promised me the jersey, Deeds.

1:24:08Chad Johnson:Y 'all different weight classes.

1:24:10Jay Glazer:No, weight classes don't matter with me. It's all about skill.

1:24:12Chad Johnson:Oh, okay.

1:24:13Shannon Sharpe:All right. Damn. Damn. But here's the thing. You want some one-on-one? You want some one-on-one? With who? Look, he act like he didn't hear it, though.

1:24:22Chad Johnson:Wait, I hear one-on-one what? Yeah.

1:24:24Jay Glazer:He's on the field? Yeah. He act like he didn't hear it. Oh, he don't want none of this. Hey, let me tell you something. I done studied him too much. Yeah, so you know it. I know every move. He play head up. He play outside. It don't matter what he do. I got something for him. So you think he'll quick jam you? Quick jam who? He gonna post or what? He looking to post? He stab? But he stabbed. I'm going up under that thing.

1:24:43Chad Johnson:See, look, I seen he had the thing where he brought all the receivers out. Oh, yeah, yeah. I was trying to show up and give boys some one-on-ones. Like, I'm trying to come. Hey, we doing it this year? Yeah, look. You can come out and give us a look? I give y 'all a look. Okay. Give y 'all a good look.

1:24:55Jay Glazer:Okay. You nervous? I'm good. I just want to give a look. Give a good look. All right, I like that. You know, I wear my cleats when I'm out there, too. That's cool.

1:25:04Shannon Sharpe:I wouldn't expect nothing less. All right. Man, you don't get no credit for beating an old man. Who old? Oh, man, that's what you're going to get. You're going to get no credit for that, Dizel. Well, he's getting up everybody in the league now.

1:25:14Jay Glazer:So, I mean.

1:25:15Shannon Sharpe:Well, he definitely. Well, just keep doing that. Just keep doing that, man. Dizel, man, congratulations on a great season. Continue your success. What's up? Stay healthy. And, man, hopefully, man, we see you guys in the playoffs real soon, man. I hope so, man. Because all that, it's, look, I know the money good. I know the adulation being an all-pro and a pro bowl player, but you want some team success. That's what you play for. Absolutely. That's what you play for. No doubt. Well, congratulations, man. Stay healthy. We'll see you down the road. Yes, sir.

1:25:43Chad Johnson:Appreciate y 'all.

1:25:43Shannon Sharpe:Appreciate you.

1:25:49Ah!

1:25:50Chad Johnson:No, thank you.

1:25:51Shannon Sharpe:Oh, wow. All right, y 'all. All right. Wow. Appreciate you, bro. Appreciate you. All right. Here we go, Ocho. We got breaking news. The Dallas Mavericks are trading 10-time NBA All-Star Anthony Davis, Jayden Hardy, DeAngelo Russell, and Dante Exum to the Washington Wizards for Chris Middleton, A.J. Johnson, Malik Brahman, and Marvin Bagley III. Two first-round picks, three second-rounders, so it's to say. So the Mavericks are trading Anthony Davis, Jaden Harden, D 'Angelo Russell, and Deontay Exum for Chris Middleton, A.J. Johnson, Malachi Branham, and Marvin Bagley III. Two first-rounders and three second-rounders.

1:26:30Jay Glazer:Hey, but that's nothing. The real news hasn't even broke yet. The real news is what I've been telling y 'all over and over and over. I'm sure they're just finishing up the logistics on that trade. Wait until you see what happens with my brother Giannis and John.

1:26:46Shannon Sharpe:The breaking news also, the 76ers are trading Jared McCain to the Oklahoma City Thunder for the 2026 Rockets first-round pick and three second-round picks. Again, the 76ers are trading Jared McCain to the Oklahoma City Thunder for a first-round pick and three second-round picks. So, that thing is, tomorrow is the trade deadline for the NBA. And so, we're going to see a lot of trades happening. We're going to see things starting to pick up. But the big news of the day, the Dallas Mavericks are trading 10-time NBA All-Star Anthony Davis, Jayden Hardy, DeAngelo Russell, and Deontay Exum to Washington Wizards, Chris Middleton, A.J.

1:27:29Shannon Sharpe:Johnson, Malachi Branham, and Marvin Bagley III for two first-rounders and three second-rounders. But, damn, AD was there barely a year.

1:27:40Jay Glazer:Well, Uncle, he's there barely a year. But the one thing that has haunted him his whole career and has been his Achilles heel is injury. Yes. The best ability is availability, and he hasn't been that.

1:27:51Shannon Sharpe:You know what? This is not going to be a bad thing. Can you imagine the pick and roll with Trey Young and Anthony Davis? You got an inside-outside. Trey was good. Because just think how Trey was with, what's the guy's name? He's at the Rockets now. What's the center? What's the center for, I forget his name. The center for the Houston Rockets that played with Atlanta. I forgot his name. Clint Capella. Oh, Clint. Imagine Clint Capella. So Clint Capella doesn't have touch to be able to shoot the ball like Anthony Davis. Yes. Anthony Davis can pick and pop. He can pick and roll. He's a tremendous defender at the rim.

1:28:32Shannon Sharpe:You know, look, I understand he might not be happy. They moved. The Mavericks did what they did. They're not going to – because at the end of the day, think about what you did. You just gave up. You gave up Luka Doncic for Chris Middleton, A.J. Johnson, Malachi Branham, Marvin Bagley III, and two first-riders at three-second round picks.

1:28:53Jay Glazer:The business is the business. If he does it, if he's not hurt, he's not going nowhere. Well, they can't count on him, huh? They can't. Damn. I love him, too. I love him. I love him.

1:29:05Shannon Sharpe:Oh, especially his tremendous talent. Yeah, absolutely. You didn't lie. His injury history speaks for itself. Yeah. His injury history, Anthony Davis, especially, he's out now. Yeah. He's out now. I mean, he got there and he had an outstanding game. I think his first game with the Mavs, he had 26-12, 26-13, and he gets hurt. He missed that game, and then he's out for the next three, four weeks. That's been Anthony Davis' injury history since he's been in the league. He was injured at the Pelicans. He was injured with L.A. He did stay healthy long enough to win that championship in 2020. But, you know, the thing happened is that they got four months off, so we don't know what could have happened.

1:29:51Shannon Sharpe:I'm glad that it didn't happen. But you're like, Ochoa, I just hate that, you know, he's going to – because we see what he can do. Yes. Guy gives you 25 and 12. He can block two to three shots a night. He can defend. He's exceptional. He can shoot the three. Sometimes I thought he fell in love with the three too much. Much, yeah. But it's just the injuries, Ochoa. Yeah. Just the injuries. But look, I like this for the Wizards. Yes. I love this for the Wizards. You mean to tell me Anthony Davis and Trey Young? Can you imagine?

1:30:26Jay Glazer:Well, hold on. You got them coming out the East?

1:30:28Shannon Sharpe:No, no, no, no, no. He's saying nothing like that. Hell no. They ain't coming out the East. They might be going East, going to Japan or something to far East. They ain't coming down the Eastern Conference. Hell no. He ain't saying nothing like that. But no, but I mean, you have to like Anthony Davis and Trey Young together.

1:30:46Jay Glazer:It gives the fans something to be excited for. or give the fans something to want to come to the games for. What's up, fellas? Are they doing twin? What's up, baby? How you doing, man? Congratulations.

1:31:00Shannon Sharpe:Thank you, brother. KB, what's up, boy? Joining us, he played with the 49ers from 2017 to 2020. Patriots from 2021 to 2024. Now he's back with the 49ers. 37 catches, 551 yards. Kendrick Bourne. Kendrick, how you doing, bro? What's up, bro? What's up, Shannon? What's up? What's up, man? How y 'all doing, man? How y 'all doing?

1:31:20Jay Glazer:Hey, well, you look happy. Well, you look excited. You look joyous. Talk to me. God is good, man. You know what I'm saying? God is good. Life good. Family good. Health good, man. Got a good perspective about life, man. I'm living, man. You know what I'm saying? What got you feeling like this? It's just I'm not supposed to be here. Undrafted. You know what I'm saying? Come on, man. Talk your talk. Get a little contract. Take your time.

1:31:39Fred Warner:I got released this year, but adversity helped you grow. Yes, sir. You know what I'm saying? How you look at it. And I'm on that wave, man, building my own brand, building stuff that I want to, you know what I'm saying? But using football as a platform. Yeah. And so I got something to look forward to. I'm inspired by y 'all, man. You know what I'm saying? Nightcap, things y 'all doing.

1:31:53Jay Glazer:Yes, sir. It's inspiring, bro, after the game. How do you do that, though? Because one of the things you just said, you got released. Uh-huh. You know what that does to you? Mentally. Mentally, that can crush you. Come on. Most people are not able to come back from something like that happening. What do you account or what do you attest to you being able to overcome that and still go forward?

1:32:11Fred Warner:It's never too high, never too low. Yes, sir. So, you know what I'm saying? You're going to be at the bottom sometimes. You're going to be at the peak. How do I stay level, bro, when I'm down, up? Am I who I say I am when I'm up or down? And that mentality, bro, has gotten me through. So, even when I'm losing, bro, I'm always happy smiling because I know life good, life big, life bigger than just football. You know what I'm saying? That we look at. So, that perspective has helped me get this far, man. I like it. Yes, sir.

1:32:35Shannon Sharpe:There was a force that you really didn't want to leave New England. But, hey, they wanted to move in a different direction. and you go back to the 49ers where it originally started. What was your expectations when you got back to the 49ers, considering, now, they let Deebo go, Brandon Ayuk's situation was what it was, but really, they didn't like they had a whole lot of number one receivers. So you had Pierce Hall, you had Juwan Jennings. They re-signed Demarcus Robinson. So what was your expectations when you went back to the 49ers? What were you expecting from Kendrick Boone?

1:33:03Fred Warner:That's a great question, man. And it's just God's story, too. Like, him bringing me home, like you're saying, of course I want to play in the Super Bowl. You know what I'm saying? I'd be lying if I didn't. Like, I want to play. But God's story different. So going back home, connecting with Mac Jones, being connected to the Patriots in that space, and then us balling our opportunity. I didn't know what to expect, but having that right perspective, you know what I'm saying? Thinking with the glass half's full. Not like, well, I ain't going to go out there and play. They got this and that. So just having my mind in the right space, man, it allowed me to maximize my opportunity.

1:33:33Fred Warner:And I'm right here right now. Even on, like, social media, the story was great. So monetizing that story, being home,

1:33:38Jay Glazer:just helped me be where I'm at right now. What's the difference culturally, being that you've been in both places? You've been over there with the Patriots, been over there with the 49ers, from a cultural difference.

1:33:48KevOnStage:Yeah.

1:33:48Jay Glazer:Do they differ much, being that both entities have always had success? Nah, dog. The Patriots differ. Yeah. They do what they do.

1:33:58Fred Warner:Boy, you go over there. I'm going to tell you. Yeah. No, that's serious, bro. So get more militant, more blue collar, and then Shanahan chill.

1:34:06Shannon Sharpe:It's football. Not all the time. check your, leave your ego at home. Because if you check your ego at the door, you might, we get a break, you'll go get it. Leave your ego at home. Bring your ass here to work. We work. It's football. It's football. It's football. It's not you.

1:34:22Fred Warner:Even where it's at, like being in Foxborough, it's just tough. And then you think about San Fran. Yes. It's more like California. It's just that kind of vibe. Yes, sir. When you're in Cali, you good.

1:34:31Shannon Sharpe:You got your sunglasses on. You ain't got, look, I don't know how y 'all do it, but you know, you got to pad you in and pad you in shorts. Everything is really speed and tempo. You put the pads on. You get pads at 9 on 7. You do the team stuff on Thursday. Then you take the pads off for half the year. And then you out of the pads. And then you good. You know, shadow had to treat you. What you need on the road. You get the smoothies. You want to watch a fight on the road. I mean, look, I know Kyle. Kyle was a little kid when I was playing for his dad. Crazy. I know what that system is like. But I also know people that have played with the Patriots.

1:35:07Shannon Sharpe:and I know what that system is like.

1:35:09Fred Warner:It's different. And I love Kyle. He got the ways of doing things. He know how to get the superstars over there. Some guys ain't trying to be blue-collar and work hard, but everybody operate different. So if you go to New England, anybody, get your mind right. And if you go to San Fran, get your mind right,

1:35:23Shannon Sharpe:but it's going to be a different kind of operation. This is what I tell people. I said it's easier to get drafted into New England as opposed to being drafted somewhere else and going to New England. That is facts. Because it's easier to, like, go tough and get easier. It's harder to be easier and get tough. Because you're like, hold on, bro. Because we heard Dre Greenlaw. You heard what he said, how he grew up in San Francisco, he came from San Francisco. All he knew was Kyle, that West Coast system. And then you get Sean Payton, who's old school. Real old school. Old school. They thudding it up.

1:35:58Shannon Sharpe:They thudding it up. They practices alone.

1:36:01KevOnStage:Meetings alone. And that's a great point. So, like, for my story, going from San Fran to Patriots was that experience.

1:36:08Fred Warner:I had to adjust. And it was like a shock, a whirlwind. And I'm like, all right, bro, I need to adapt. How do I adapt? So I learned a lot, which was powerful. But if you don't get your mind right, you're going to fall. In my career, it got rough a little bit. I came back. You got Coach Belichick. You got Coach Belichick. I'm telling you.

1:36:27Shannon Sharpe:His father was militaristic. Everything is structured. Everything is time. You're going to be on time. It ain't no late. It ain't no excuses. We are a no excuse zone. Chad, no. Listen, you don't have to tell me.

1:36:43Jay Glazer:Hey, first hand, and I'm coming from Cincinnati. So I'm not really coming from a background of success. I'm not really coming from a background of winning all the time. That one thing my little black ass did is I worked. So that was the one thing. I didn't have to adapt to that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wherever I'm at, you know what you're going to get. That's fire. But that militant atmosphere that when you go to practice KB and you got to have on every single pad like come on I'm not there with my hip pads in I Ain't want my hip pads and butt pads since I was an optimist

1:37:13Fred Warner:It's that serious man What are we talking about Bill? How he not first ballot though?

1:37:18Jay Glazer:Oh man

1:37:19Fred Warner:It don't make sense dog

1:37:23Shannon Sharpe:I don't know we've had a couple of people on there trying to ask How much do you think Spygate played a role in that?

1:37:29Fred Warner:That's what I'm saying. And it's funny because that's not my era and my time. So my experience with Bill and what he taught me, I'm like, no, he first ballot. I remember he did a tackling drill. It's called Sideline Skinny. Yes, sir. Where he set up defenders. You run down the sideline. You do certain things. You make one defender stop his feet, make the other defender, and then you throw a stiff arm at the end. Man, I had a game, Tennessee Titans. I was on the sideline. Man, the drill came to life, man. Really? I'm not even kidding, dog. and I said, this boy a guru. And I knew how to run with the football, but the repetition of that, at first I'm like, man, I hate this drill, but then I won the game for us.

1:38:04Fred Warner:Yes. He like, I told you, boy. I'm like, you didn't tell me, dog.

1:38:08Shannon Sharpe:So I think he like, that's different to me in a sense. But you got an opportunity to see, and I just want to tell people, Nocho said the same thing. If you get him out of a situation where it's just not football, he does have a kind of laid back personality. He will joke, but you got to get him away where wins and losses don't matter. Because if it wins and losses matter, you're going to get Coach the story. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're going to get what you get. Don't talk to him, dog.

1:38:33Fred Warner:So I love that about him. You know what I'm saying? He's the ultimate competitor, ultimate coach of the game, presenting it, looks, different things. So he helped me a lot in my career.

1:38:42Shannon Sharpe:But he's big in situations, aren't he? Because he's a situational guy. Because everything, like, this is going to come up at some point in time, and I want to prepare you. He is not a believer that having you dive and put the football out to go across the goal line. You better not put that ball out. It ain't.

1:38:56Fred Warner:Boy, my boy was trolling me about fumbling. Why'd he come back in the game? What you say, like trying to die for him? Oh, he don't play? Just fumbling? Oh, he don't play. But what you say, he care that much. You can't get him a possession, turnover. It's all situational to him. So that messes with his mind, get him out the game. Yeah. I don't care. I don't care if you're the starter. If you like, like, if it's you, you might have went back in the game. I'm like, I'm tier two. You ain't go back in. I'm tier two.

1:39:23KevOnStage:Kidry Barnes, ladies and gentlemen.

1:39:24Shannon Sharpe:Thank you, Kidry. Thank you, y 'all, man.

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