Nightcap LIVE from Super Bowl Radio Row: Hour 1 - Trevor Lawrence, Jayden Daniels, Sauce Gardner join!

10:37Trevor Lawrence:You know, one of the things I always think about is being able to maximize a player's potential is obviously always having continuity and having a familiarity with the system. And when you have to switch coordinators, you have to switch play callers every season, to me, it almost makes you take a step back in a sense because there's always something new that you're having to learn. Right now, where you are in your career, do you have the freedom when you come to the line and you see the defense? Do you have the freedom, even though you have multiple plays called at one, do you have the freedom to change it to something that you like?

11:05Trevor Lawrence:Do you have that freedom yet?

11:06Jayden Daniels:Yeah, you know, it depends on the situation, what play is called, but definitely. I mean, there was some stuff towards the end of the season where we'd say it could be a run play, and any time I think we get man coverage, we can check to any of our man beaters and just get out of it, which is great as a quarterback because you're like, I know it's man, but we're running mid-zone, which is fine. We'll probably get a decent game, but, like, why wouldn't we run some crossers? mesh play and we get a chunk because we know it's because you're not going to it's very rare that you just you can call the play knowing exactly what they're playing and when you can do that you're at such an advantage so they've given me the freedom to when I see that I can get to what I want yeah because you know what you're getting and I you know I think that's really cool yeah

11:45Trevor Lawrence:that's that's a that's a huge advantage when you have a quarterback that has allowed the freedom to be able to do what some of the greats have done because when the greats what the greats boys been able to done is to understand what they see in front of them and be able to change especially if you have the right personnel which you do have to be able to get into something you like we got man to man i mean i got bt out there what man we changing this if you were to put your gm cap on i've asked every player we've had on here if you were able to put your gm cap on and say what we need whether it's offensively whether it's defensively or maybe maybe even special teams that can get us over the hump so we can be in the conversation and being in games like this, next year being L.A., what would you do?

12:26Jayden Daniels:You said if I had my GM here?

12:28Trevor Lawrence:If you put your GM hat.

12:29Jayden Daniels:Oh, GM hat. You're not Trevor Lawrence, the player. Oh, man, that's a good question. Resign ATN. That's a great start. That's my guy. I've been with him eight years. You've been with college.

12:42Shannon Sharpe:Eight years, yeah.

12:43Jayden Daniels:So I'm hoping we get Travis back. I mean, he's a great player. I'm hoping we get him back. So that's a great starting point. I think you look at our team, we have some guys that are free agents, so you've got to figure out who's going to come back, who's going to be a part of it. I think, obviously, the year we had and what we were set up to do fell short in the wild card, but we feel really good about our team and how we matched up. I don't feel like we ever stepped on the field and were like, man, this team's better than us. Didn't ever feel that way. So you want to try to get as many guys as possible back, but it's not always realistic.

13:14Jayden Daniels:So I don't even know if I could put my GM hat on. I don't know how the salary cap works.

13:19Shannon Sharpe:It's going up, man.

13:20Jayden Daniels:I think it's going up. I don't know. So we get fine. And we got a great owner that's willing to do what it takes to keep guys around. So I'm hoping we get all that figured out. Travis would be awesome to keep. And then I think you look at our defense. Lose some guys. Devin Lloyd's a free agent. He had a great year. I mean, you look at what he did. He's, I mean, arguably the best linebacker in the league. So got some stuff to figure out. And I think there's guys that are a key part of what we're doing. But at the end of the day, you know, I don't make those decisions. But I think we have the relationship in our building where our input is valued.

13:49Jayden Daniels:So, you know, we'll see what happens.

13:51Trevor Lawrence:Especially your input.

13:52Jayden Daniels:Yeah, no doubt.

13:53Shannon Sharpe:So how are the Purple Hurricanes going to do this year? You're going back to Cartersville, huh? What do you know about Cartersville? I'm hoping good, man. You and Ronnie Brown.

14:03Jayden Daniels:Ronnie, Ronnie, Ronnie. Oh, Ronnie's the man. Ronnie's the man. Yeah, I'm hoping good. We need to get back, get another state championship. It's been a little while. So we played in a couple, but we need to win one.

14:14Shannon Sharpe:You know what? And we're going to get you out on this. now your name when they talk about great quarterbacks in the AFC Trevor Lawrence getting mentioned because of Liam Cohen comes in there and what you've been what you've been able to do this season so the Patrick Mahomes and the Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen and guess what Trevor Lawrence is that what you've always hoped for because a lot of that's like man look this guy was the number one consensus from the day he stepped foot on Clemson everybody said three years from today he'll be the first player selected in the NFL draft.

14:45Shannon Sharpe:So you've had a lot of pressure and you've met those expectations. You went to college, you won a national championship as a true freshman. Doesn't happen very often. You get back and, but you ran into that, that, that historic, great 2019 LSU team. You're the first one to pick in the draft and you had some success. What'd you have? Uh, uh, uh, you, you, you walked Sandy, uh, the charges down there with a 20 to 27, nothing. You walked them down. So now to hear people, the way they talk about you now, as opposed to the way they talked about you in the past, Does that make you feel good? Like, you know what?

15:15Shannon Sharpe:I'm turning the corner. I'm starting to be the player that I thought I could become.

15:19Jayden Daniels:Yeah, I think it's, man, people have said a lot of stuff about me for a long time. So I try not to listen too much of it. I know I've seen, I mean, you asked people a year ago, people thought I sucked. So, I mean, I don't think you can listen to too much. I've always known what I'm capable of, and it's been frustrating at times. You know, obviously I haven't played as well as I know I can. But now having the foundation in place, the confidence in what we're doing, the system, the scheme, our personnel, got a lot of great players, have a lot of confidence in that. And for me, it's not about what people think if I'm in that conversation or not.

15:54Jayden Daniels:It's just about winning games. But naturally, when you win, that happens. So I'm proud of what we were able to do this year, not for people to say that, you know, I'm one of the better quarterbacks in the league, but just because our team is one of the better teams in the league. And that's what happens when you play well as a team, when you play and you have to play well at the quarterback position. So naturally that stuff's going to happen. And hopefully next year we'll have another conversation and playing in this game. Here we go. Here we go. But as much fun as it is talking to you guys. You want to be in this game.

16:21Jayden Daniels:No doubt.

16:22Shannon Sharpe:So here he is, quarterback Jacksonville Jaguars promoting Z-Boat, the flying insect trap. Trevor Lawrence. Trevor, thanks for stopping by now. Appreciate it.

16:30Trevor Lawrence:Don't forget to put that word in for me to come back.

16:32Shannon Sharpe:All right, come on.

16:33Trevor Lawrence:I appreciate it. You're the coach? I didn't know you were the coach. No, I want to play.

16:35Jayden Daniels:You want to play? Yeah, I want to play. Got a couple snaps in you? No. Let's go. Yeah, he got a couple of times. We're going to go block duo. We'll insert for the safety.

16:43Trevor Lawrence:There we go. Perfect. Appreciate you.

16:45Shannon Sharpe:Thank you. Ready? All right. Next coming to the Colts rise receiver. He's a 20-20 second round pick out of USC. This season, 80 catches, 784 yards, seven touchdowns. The Colts finished 8-9, third in the AFC. Man, the dream season. It started off so great for them. They were 8-2 to start the season. The quarterback gets injured, and they lost seven in a row. Michael Pittman Jr.

17:09Trevor Lawrence:Junior. How you doing, bro?

17:11Shannon Sharpe:You see what they do, baby? How are you guys? Good to see you. Yes, sir. Likewise. Boy, you had that great start. Y 'all were 8-2, riding high. You were the number one seed in the AMC at the time. And then your quarterback gets injured. And you tried a lot of different things. You end up getting Phillip Rivers off his couch after five years. But how disappointing was it for you guys to see a promising season basically go down the drain because of an injury to your quarterback?

17:37Chad Johnson:Yeah, I mean, obviously it's tough. I mean, like just like hearing that back again, man, because like we thought we were on our way to to playoff run, AFC South. I mean, or South. I mean, everything was just out there. And just the fact that it came kind of almost like crashing down, like after like Dan got hurt. But just know that he's coming back and we still have that same core guys and and that we feel like we could do the same thing again. And then God willing that everybody stays healthy because we had a string of bad luck with our DBs, with obviously Daniel. So, you know, even as a player, how surprised were you?

18:18Trevor Lawrence:Because even I was surprised. How surprised were you that when Daniel Jones came in as a quarterback, everything changed? He looked like a damn generational talent. He changed everything around about that franchise, especially with the way you guys were playing at the beginning of the season before his injury.

18:35Chad Johnson:Absolutely. I mean, I wasn't so shocked because, like, the way that he showed up, like, just, like, in camp, like, we were doing that. So, and then we went to, like, joint practices and we were still doing that. So it didn't really shock me. Going 8-2, like, now I didn't necessarily see that. So, like, when, like, we went on that run, I'm like, oh, shit. Like, just, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, just like we got a squad. Right. And our offense was rolling at like historic pace. Yes. And we thought we were on to something. And then, like I said, injuries, it all comes crashing down. But we got to find ways to win, like no matter what, because, you know, like there's lots of teams that.

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21:47Chad Johnson:Battle that, you know. I think that the 49ers struggling with injuries, and they were able to make a nice run. So we just got to find ways to get it done regardless.

21:56Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, and you look at you guys offensively. You got Jonathan Taylor can run the football. You're self-pears. You got Warren tied in. Your offensive line was a little banged up, but you still have an outstanding offensive line. What do you guys – and because this is a very tough division now. Oh, yeah. You got the Houston Texans. You got the Jags. You guys are in that division. You see they made a change in Tennessee with their coaching staff, with their coaching staff. And so now this division, what, you know, maybe it would take, you know, 10 games to win the division. It's probably going to take 12, 13 games to win this division moving forward unless something unforeseen would have happened.

22:32Chad Johnson:Absolutely, yeah. I mean, like just knowing that there's some really good defenses in the AFC South right now. I mean, Houston's like defensive front, I mean, and they're like DBs now. Crazy, crazy. Ballers. So just know that, you know, like it's going to be a battle like every time that we play those teams, them, the Jags and Tennessee, like it's coming up. You know, like I think that Cam Ward is a really talented guy. And I think they're going to build kind of like just like around him. And like I think that he's going to keep getting better, too. So it ain't going to be easy.

23:01Shannon Sharpe:You guys lost to Seattle 18-16. Yeah. And everybody that's come on here, they have picked the Seahawks to win the Super Bowl. Yeah. What makes them so good on both sides of the football? Because you have an up-close look. You're on the field against their defense. You're on the sideline watching their offense. What makes them so good?

23:20Chad Johnson:I think they play really good complementary football, and I think they don't make a lot of mistakes. I think that they're well coached. I think that their defensive line is really good. Obviously, Sam is playing great. I mean, Jackson Smith is putting up crazy numbers. So they kind of got the full package. And, like, I kind of am, like, leaning towards them too.

23:43Shannon Sharpe:Same. Yeah, I think it's going to be an unbelievable game. I think the thing is people might be selling the Patriots a little short because, you know, they don't have the big name. They don't have a guy like a Jackson. They don't have, you know, Sam and Drake May is going to end the MVP discussion. We'll find out tonight who wins the MVP. For me, if I had a vote, I probably would have voted for Matthew Stafford. Oh, yeah. You know, considering what he's done. But they're going to be right there, and you mentioned that defense. But you guys, I mean, they did a number. If you go back and look at them in the postseason, they've done an unbelievable job on a lot of teams.

24:17Shannon Sharpe:But you were able to – it was a very, very close ball game. What do you think some of the things that the Patriots can do to take advantage because, like you said, they're very good. They're very, very spoon and swollen. And then you got love. I mean, they're good at all three levels.

24:33Chad Johnson:Yeah. I mean, like I think the biggest thing that helped us was Phillip was getting us like in the right place. And I don't know how like there was one, I think it was a third down where they showed like a like all out blitz. And they ran up like just like on our on our on our hard count. They like ran up and showed blitz. And like I'm like, OK, like just like they're like just like zero. All of them are bringing it. And then Phillip changes it to a to a to a zone. to a zone play. So, like, just, like, I'm just, like, looking at him crazy. Like, I'm like, yo, bro, like, just, like, they are bringing a house.

25:11Chad Johnson:And then, like, he snaps it and all of them just back out. Like, I was like, I have no idea, like, how we knew. Because they all came so hard, like, on that, like, hard count. So, yeah.

25:22Shannon Sharpe:You have one year left on your deal. Yes. You know, and your name did come up in some trade talks at the trade deadline. Is there something, would you like to secure something long term You got a huge cap number. They're probably going to look. I'm not breaking news to you. I'm sure you and your representative have looked at this. Is there a possibility, would you like to stay in Indy or you want whatever, whatever works best for the team and works best for Michael Pittman Jr., I'm amenable to them.

25:52Chad Johnson:Absolutely, yeah. I mean, obviously Indy, like, is my home, and, like, I built, like, a lot of stuff there, and, like, I would love to stay, but just know that NFL ball can take you places that, you know, like you never thought that you'd be at, right? And sometimes, like, that can be better. But I am planning on being here, like, in Indy until somebody tells me that I'm not. So, like, I'm all in, like, with the Colts, and I hope it stays that way.

26:20Trevor Lawrence:I hope it stays that way, too, because I understand how valuable you are for that team and that franchise and that offense. So I'm hoping, you know, it does happen. Who are you here representing?

26:30Chad Johnson:Yes, so I am here on behalf of Oral B, the official toothbrush of the NFL. So we actually got our guy Blue here. He's got the biggest lightest smile. Blue.

26:38Trevor Lawrence:What's up, Blue?

26:40Chad Johnson:Thanks to the IO Series toothbrush.

26:42Sauce Gardner:Uh-huh. Blue. So he's just getting it in. He's got the perfect smile. Hey. So.

26:50Trevor Lawrence:Hey, Blue, I appreciate that, baby.

26:52Shannon Sharpe:You got a beard, too, aren't you? Uh-huh.

26:54Trevor Lawrence:I ain't got no beard. It look like me, though. And they got the Cartiers right.

26:58Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Yo. Look at my glasses. There you go, Blue.

27:03Trevor Lawrence:Hey, Blue, I appreciate that, Blue.

27:05Sauce Gardner:Yes, sir.

27:06Shannon Sharpe:That's live. I like that. I actually use Orbeez. That's the only two. Yeah, I've used Orbeez. You got to. That's dope. It's the best. Actually, I think I use, it might be, I don't know if it's a soft or medium. I think it's a 60 soft or 60 medium. There you go. Clearly, I know what I'm talking about because I'm giving you the soft.

27:25Chad Johnson:Absolutely. Absolutely. It's like the soft, like bristles, like just like are the best.

27:29Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Yeah, yeah. This is unbelievable. I appreciate this. Hey, Ocho, they got a chain and everything.

27:34Trevor Lawrence:Look at the chain, Ocho. Hold on, I see the chain. You don't see the soccer jersey, though. I see the soccer jersey. I'm talking about detail. They detail. Chad, is this me? They did me right. They did me right because that's how I look when I laugh.

27:47Shannon Sharpe:Oh, man, this is unbelievable. Michael, thank you, man. Congratulations. Continued success. Hey, you're going to be where you're supposed to be, but all you do once you get there, show up and show out. That's it. Absolutely. I appreciate that. Hey, do me a small favor.

28:01Trevor Lawrence:When I had that wider workshop, I hope to see you. Okay. I hope to see you. Come on now. Come politic with the fellas now.

28:07Shannon Sharpe:I'll pull up.

28:07Trevor Lawrence:Love.

28:08Shannon Sharpe:Yes, sir. I appreciate that. Oh, you like this one. Appreciate you, bro. Man, that's unbelievable. Hold it up one more time.

28:28Shannon Sharpe:What water is this?

28:35Sauce Gardner:Mr. Sharp, Mr. Sharp. How's it going? How's it going?

28:38Trevor Lawrence:Hey, man. Life is good. I can't complain.

28:40Sauce Gardner:Yes, sir. You good?

28:41Shannon Sharpe:Doing great. Doing great. I can't complain.

28:43Trevor Lawrence:Most definitely.

28:45Shannon Sharpe:Joining us now. is a Pro Bowl linebacker, Hall of Famer, from the San Francisco 49ers. Five dudes. Bam, bam. Ole Miss. He was very excited for his college team because they did make it advance to the college football playoffs. They were very, very close to advancing into the national championship game. Here he is, ladies and gentlemen, Patrick Willis. Pat, what's going on, bro?

29:09Sauce Gardner:Doing fabulous, doing fabulous. Thank you guys for having me. I can't believe I'm up here right now, man, beside you guys. I see you guys like almost every night, man.

29:18Trevor Lawrence:Pat, tell him that story, man. Tell him that story. I forgot what game it was. You know I ran him over. I caught him flipping, huh? Now you can tell him, Pat. Just tell him. It's okay. It's okay.

29:26Sauce Gardner:No, I do remember, though, a lot of people don't know that Chad is the one who actually gave me the nickname Bam Bam.

29:34Trevor Lawrence:Because you had the club on. Yeah, I had the club.

29:37Sauce Gardner:My rookie year, either my rookie year or second year, we was getting ready to play at Cincinnati, and you was talking about me one night. I just wanted to say, man, I really appreciate that. That's the Yellowstick to this day.

29:46Trevor Lawrence:Yeah, most definitely, most definitely. I'll never forget. What's the name of the stadium we played in? I can't remember the name. Candlestick? Yeah, I think it was a Candlestick.

29:53Sauce Gardner:Yeah, Candlestick.

29:53Trevor Lawrence:Candlestick back then? Yeah, that was my first and I think maybe my last time ever being here outside of this visit now. So I haven't been here since. And the city's awesome. The city's awesome. I really never had the time to come here and experience the city and, you know, travel and go around. The people are nice, very receptive to my I love you. So, boy, I enjoyed it so far.

30:13Shannon Sharpe:I love the Bay Area. Let me ask you this. What's going on with all the injuries in San Fran? Because every year you guys have injuries, and they're the key players. And sometimes, look, you lost your quarterback for a period of time, but Mack Jones came in and played exceptionally well. You lose Bosa for the entire season. I think Warner goes down, and he misses like 10 games of the season.

30:40Shannon Sharpe:Williams, Big Trent, T-Dub, he goes out for a period of time. He comes back. George Kittle misses time with a hamstring, comes back, tears the Achilles. What's going on with the injuries in San Fran?

30:53Sauce Gardner:Man, Sharp, that's a great question. What I'll say is we all know this game of football is tough. It's rough on the body. And those guys have played a lot of football. They played a lot of football, and so I'm one of those type of people that I also do analysis, meaning like, you know, you hope you have a career where you never have any injuries, but at the same time, man, if you played a lot of football, you're going to have some injuries. The years are wearing terrible. It builds up. And those guys, they're not old. I'm not calling them old, but they got some miles on their body.

31:30Shannon Sharpe:In football years, they old.

31:32Sauce Gardner:So when I look at it, I just kind of look at it as one of those things that how everything kind of ebbs and flows. Like, they just in that period right now of they just got some older guys who played a lot of football, and they just – that's what comes with it. But I have heard a lot about, you know, the different conversations and stuff.

31:51Shannon Sharpe:Pat, when you – look, obviously you go to the Super Bowl in 2012. You play the Ravens, and you guys came with a throwaway. When you look back on your career, is there anything you wish you could have done differently? Is there anything you, I mean, you retired, but you weren't that open. Pat, you were, what was it?

32:15Jayden Daniels:Eight.

32:15Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. And you walked away from the game at 29 years of age. Why?

32:24Sauce Gardner:Truthfully, it was a conversation I had with myself in the beginning before I ever started playing this. before it was a conversation I had with myself my rookie year I said everything that starts has an end and I remember seeing guys who were being young being a fan of the sport you seeing guys who just I'm like man why are you staying why are you still out there it doesn't like you want to give it everything you have and I was a big fan of like listen if you out here and you ain't giving everything you have I don't care what name you have or who they put in front of you I'm not a fan of yours I might be a fan of especially guys that's giving everything they So I just remember getting to that point, and I didn't know it would come this fast, but I just remember getting to that point to where my body, my feet were hurting.

33:05Sauce Gardner:The biggest thing with the corporate was my feet, them big toes. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It got to the point to where I couldn't even go through a walkthrough without having to put numbing cream on. I remember Kasim, man, he was my best friend one season. One season he was with us because he introduced me to this numbing cream, and it helped for a while, but it just got to the point to where it was just taking— That didn't even help. Yeah, and it was taking more out of me. And I remember the conversation I had with myself and God. And it was almost like one of the things where the hardest thing in life sometimes to do is to be honest with yourself.

33:37Sauce Gardner:Yes. And I just felt it, looked around me, and I said, you know what? It's time to step away before you mess around and start getting to the point to where they started seeing it. And they started looking at them. All right, how can we get rid of them? And I know I didn't have it in my body to go anywhere else. and to give that kind of love, to give that kind of heart that I had given to San Fran. I mean, as you just said, talking about the stadium, Candlestick is not there anymore, and it feels like in disbelief, like somebody took my heart or something and just said, we're just going to crush it and just don't care that you played here.

34:11Sauce Gardner:And so that was home for me.

34:14Trevor Lawrence:As difficult as that decision is, especially with the body, the mind knows what to do, but the body doesn't react. The body's not feeling the same way where you know I can go out here and give it my all. The transition and the having to leave and walk away from the game, how has that transition been for you mentally? Ooh-wee. Yeah. Yeah.

34:35Sauce Gardner:I'll say this, man. We all go through that dark night of the soul where you find yourself in that space of like, all right, you say like I'm all good, but you know deep down inside you're like, man, like what is going on? Nothing just feels like it connects because I realize, and someone asked me, I realize that football is not everything. 25 years have been a part of your life. But it's the umbilical cord to life for a lot of us. It really is. And so I noticed the last couple years I've been fortunate to be back around the Niners after dabbling and dabbling in the entrepreneurial world a little bit.

35:12Sauce Gardner:You realize, like, shit, it's hard to build businesses out here. It's hard to build something that's going to sustain to the point of where you can be comfortable and just, you know, like... Make money. Yeah, make money. And so what I learned in being back around the Niners was just the... Everything that... 100 years of business, so 75 years of business and what it takes, and then just working with people who are... What we've come to know now is... In my financial literacy talk, we call them, is he just a guy? Is he a pro bowler? Or is he an all-pro? And I was trying to do things with people that meant well, but they were just guys.

35:50Sauce Gardner:Just the guys.

35:50Shannon Sharpe:They were Jags, just the guys.

35:51Sauce Gardner:And we know what it's like when you're on a team and not speaking down to anyone, but if you've got a team just full of guys, yeah, you might.

35:58Trevor Lawrence:You're going to only get so far.

35:59Sauce Gardner:But you're going to only get so far. And so I say all that to say, man, the journey has been crazy. If I say it's been absolutely easy, even though I made the decision, I'll be lying to you. I just get up each day. Each day the Lord wakes me up, I just am grateful because of so many reasons, where I come from, everything I've had to overcome to get to just play football. And then really the hardest part is I think football was actually – the world got different. It got harder after football. You know, and so just to be able to be up here talking to you guys and being able to converse on it, like, I'm grateful.

36:36Shannon Sharpe:That's dope. That's a lot. Patrick Willis, ladies and gentlemen, all pro Hall of Fame linebacker from the San Francisco 49ers. What you got?

36:43Sauce Gardner:Oh, oh, oh, before I go, before I go, oh, Before I go, I wanted to let everybody know that it's going down tomorrow at Lucky Strikes. We're doing Go Bowling, so everybody, they won't. Let me stop this. Tomorrow is going down at Lucky Strikes. Go Bowling and NFL Alumni Association is hosting attendees. We'll be going there. We'll be competing. But we want everybody to go to GoBowling.com and sign up and get you a free game.

37:14Trevor Lawrence:I'm ready. GoBowling.com. Hey, you know, I can bowl at 300. What? I can bowl, yeah, 300.

37:20Sauce Gardner:Man, let me see it. I was on the pro circuit. Let me see it.

37:22Trevor Lawrence:I was on the pro circuit back in 97.

37:26Shannon Sharpe:Okay. Let me see it. Patrick Willis, ladies and gentlemen.

37:31Sauce Gardner:Thank you, Matt. Let me see you guys. You guys keep doing what you're doing. Yes, sir.

37:35Shannon Sharpe:Yes, sir. Thank you. Man, them toes ain't nothing to play with.

37:38Sauce Gardner:Oh, yeah. I didn't get a chance to say it, but your brother, your brother, that's a guy. Appreciate you. It was an honor to see him.

37:46Shannon Sharpe:Appreciate that, Pat. Thank you.

37:51Sauce Gardner:Me?

37:52Shannon Sharpe:Okay. Oh, okay. Kyle and Tristan. Okay.

38:02Ready?

38:06Trevor Lawrence:Fellas, when you vote play in the Super Bowl, how did you know vote? Read it now or when they come? Read it now. Answer it. fellas when you both played in the Super Bowl how did you handle the week leading up to the game mentally physically and emotionally what was your approach like

38:26Shannon Sharpe:y 'all know my approach I'm strictly business I was here to win a football game the Super Bowl the festivities are for the people that come the game is for us the game is not going to happen until Sunday so I didn't care about who was having a party, what celebs was coming in town, what this or what that was. That had no, that wasn't for me. That was for my family. That was for all the people that was coming for the Super Bowl festivities. The Super Bowl, the game itself, that was for me. The families are getting in today. The families are arriving today. Now, the way we did it, Mike said, look, and Brian did the same thing.

39:07Shannon Sharpe:You can go to the family hotel, but your family cannot come here. We're not going to have kids running up and down the hallway, even though you think your kids are cute and cuddly. Everybody don't think your kids are cute and cuddly. Some of the guys want to rest. Some of these guys, hey, come on in here. We'll talk about this later. What's up, Coach? How you doing, bro? How we doing? What's up, man? How you doing, brother? How good to see you? Nice to meet you.

39:34Trevor Lawrence:How are you? What up, twin? He said what up twin?

39:38Shannon Sharpe:Joining us now is Kyle and Christian Juszczyk. The 49ers fullback, 2013 fourth round pick out of Harvard. Yes, sir. You went to Harvard too? Yes.

39:50Chad Johnson:He's one of our most famous alumni.

39:52Trevor Lawrence:Thank you. Kyle, I try to tell him all the time I was there. They never believed me. So I'm glad you're here to attest to that. I've seen your picture on the wall. Thank you.

40:01Chad Johnson:I also like to sell people I went to Harvard. Yes, sir.

40:04Shannon Sharpe:A fourth-round draft pick from Harvard. He started his career with the Ravens 2013 to 2016, and now he's present with the 49ers from 2017 until present. And we just had Patrick Willis on here, and, you know, he retired at 29 years of age. He said the injury is toes had just taken his toll on him. The injuries this year, you get Purdy goes down. Matt Jones played really well, keep you guys afloat. Kittle hurts his hamstring. He misses some time, comes back. Terrence is a keely. Trent Dubb, T-Dubb, he goes down. I mean, Bosa, he goes down. Fred Warner, he goes down. How were you able, the injuries, that's one thing, but how were you guys able to keep this thing afloat while so many injuries were piling up?

40:47Chad Johnson:Yeah, you know what? I really think it comes down just to the culture that we've built in San Francisco. And it truly is that next man up mentality. And it sounds cliche and nobody wants to hear it, but I really do think that we've set this standard that when guys go down, like they know okay i need to be up to this standard if i want to stick around here so i think we just did a really good job of um having that standard and guys were ready to meet it when

41:12Trevor Lawrence:they got their opportunity yeah the funny thing i always want to ask i've watched you play many of years the value that you bring to a team if you think about the game and how the game has evolved and now it's a passing league being a fullback but that's the funny thing you're not just a fullback they can put you in the slot here they can line your ass up out wide and you can actually He was running routes just like every senior.

41:31Shannon Sharpe:He fooled about like y 'all dangled to me.

41:33Trevor Lawrence:But how did you get yourself to a point where you're so valuable to any of the 32 teams that you would play on?

41:40Chad Johnson:Yeah.

41:41Trevor Lawrence:Despite the game evolving the way it has?

41:43Chad Johnson:Forever. Dating all the way back to high school. Yes. My thing has always been versatility and being able to adapt. And as a fullback, you better be able to adapt. Because each year, you got to find something that you're adding value to. Yes. And every year of my career has been different. Like, there were a few years back in Baltimore where, I mean, I was really playing short yardage goal line. And then, I mean, that's not enough to just have a roster spot. So you better play special teams. And then I became a third down running back. Yes. So I started, you know, I learned all the protections.

42:14Chad Johnson:And so every year I've had to find that niche of like, all right, what does this team need this year? Right. And how can I fill that? And it's just been a strength of mine. And I think that's a big part of my life.

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45:01Shannon Sharpe:Kristen, you did the better half of this gentleman right here. You attend every single game.

45:07Jayden Daniels:I do.

45:08Shannon Sharpe:Road, home, overseas, Alaska, it does not matter. Why is it so important for you to be at every single one of his games.

45:16Chad Johnson:Yeah, well, there's so many reasons. I mean, it's such a short-lived career, and we know that these are our glory days, and I never want to miss out on just these special moments. Being there, we've had so many amazing moments. I mean, there was a moment in Seattle that me and Claire Kittle, who I traveled all the games with, we actually got a seat in the end zone, and we were first row in the end zone. George scores, and he jumps into the suite with us. The next drive, Kyle scores in the end zone, jumps into the suite with us, and those memories are just burned into our souls. And that's the reason why we go.

45:47Trevor Lawrence:One of the things I do want to ask also is we never get to see the two. We never get to see the union. How are you able to balance the work and also keep a healthy balance in a relationship?

45:57Chad Johnson:Yeah. To be honest, I think for us it just comes so naturally. It's not something that we really needed to work on. We just genuinely like spending time with each other and loving each other. And I think that's my biggest piece of advice for relationships. If it's real work, then that's not the right person for you. Right. I think it should come naturally. Say that again. If it's not what? If it's real work, it's not the right person for you. That's beautiful. People always say that marriage is so hard. We always look at each other and we're like. We're like, read the marriage books. I'm like, if you've got to read a book on marriage, you're not married to the right person.

46:27Trevor Lawrence:I like that. Okay. Because, you know, me and Unc. He's like, I'm throwing away all the books. Me and Unc, we think about getting married in 2027 and having a dual wedding. There you go. You know? I love it. Yeah. We love it, too. You need an officiator? I think you guys. You need an officiator? We need therapists. We need therapists. And the fact that you guys haven't figured out, you can counsel us.

46:45Chad Johnson:We got you. I'd like to add that to my resume.

46:48Shannon Sharpe:But you hear this a lot, Claire, and you can speak to this. This is more so because you're going to do what you do. You understand you've got practice. You understand we've got meaning. I've got to live. I've got to watch tape. Talk about the sacrifices that the significant other, girlfriend, wife, whatever the case may be, that they have to make because there are a lot of times he can't go to PTA. There's a lot of times he can't go to recitals. There's a lot of times he can't pick the kids up. And you have to do that, but you have to be accepting because sometimes people, the partner gets upset.

47:17Shannon Sharpe:Why you can't do it? Well, can you go run a go route? Can you go sack the quarterback and then we'll switch roles for a second? Talk about some of the sacrifices that you have to make to keep this because you're the rock. You're the foundation piece because you keep his mind at ease because he knows everything is taken care of at home.

47:35Chad Johnson:Well, to be honest, I think that's the main reason why we haven't had children yet. to be honest because i think i want him to be able to spend those late night at the facility if he needs to get extra rehab i don't want him to feel like he needs to come home and have to take care of things i want again it's a short-lived career i want him to be selfish i won't ever want him to look back at this period of his life and think i wish i did more or i wish i did this so i we've kind of pushed that off and we know we have our whole lives to have a family together so and i have my own career path as well and he's been incredibly supportive on that i think that's to be honest is the perfect recipe if you're sitting at home and you're constantly waiting for him to come home is i think when maybe animosity builds up so for me i'm working and trying to build my own dreams and my own career so when he comes home we're just happy to share what our day has been like with each other yeah did you hear what she said she understands the

48:28Trevor Lawrence:sacrifice she understands what goes into it she understands what it entails to actually be an NFL player. Once you have someone that understands the sacrifice and get it, you know what, baby, I get it. We're going to put certain things on the back burner because I know this is what you have to do. This is what comes first.

48:44Chad Johnson:Absolutely. It was his dream since he even knew the word football. So I would never want to take anything away from that.

48:50Shannon Sharpe:And we've heard this, Ocho and I, we both heard this. But you say you understand and you want that, but did you realize how much of a sacrifice that it entailed before you got with this gentleman?

49:02Chad Johnson:I don't think it's that much of a sacrifice. I think he's following his dreams and it's admirable. Like, he really did. Like, I wake up every day. He's so happy to go to work. He's not like, I love my job, man. The fact that he even calls it work is hilarious. And so, to be honest, I think, and I'm not trying to take away from how much time and commitment he puts into it, but out of all the other professional sports, I think it's almost the most similar to a 9-5. Like, he doesn't, he plays 17 games in the regular season. It's not like he's playing a game every other day. Like baseball or whatever.

49:35Chad Johnson:Yeah, so I think the NFL is obviously a huge commitment, not trying to take that away whatsoever. But I think he balances it really well. And we have four months off together to do whatever we want.

49:48Shannon Sharpe:I like it. I like it. You mentioned your own dreams and aspirations. You started out sewing pieces just basically for yourself and him. And then someone's like, well, how can I get that? And you was like, and whose idea was like, babe, I'm going to turn this into a business or you can turn this into a business.

50:07Chad Johnson:Yeah. I think I really, I was doing it for myself truly just because I didn't like what was offered at the store.

50:14Shannon Sharpe:You didn't like the gift shop here? No, I did not. The pink shirts and the V-nets.

50:19Chad Johnson:Yeah. No, there was not enough options for me. So, I mean, it just was like a natural progression. And then there was this one time that I was at a game and I was looking around. It was a freezing game. And every guy there is wearing this huge puffer jacket. And they have a jersey over their puffer jacket. And I'm just like, why has there never been a jacket that has the player's name and number on it? So you can be cold and you're not like restricted wearing a jersey over your jacket. That was kind of like my label moment. And then when I made my first so-called jersey puffer vest is when I was like, ooh, I'm on to school.

50:48Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Oh, yeah. Have you always been good with, you know, sewing and putting things together?

50:55Chad Johnson:To be honest, no. I didn't go to school for fashion. I was a business major. But, like, I come from a family of entrepreneurs who are just kind of, like, the figure-it-out kind of gritty people. Big time. And so I just was like, I'll go to YouTube and I'll learn how to do it. Damn. That's what I did.

51:08Shannon Sharpe:That's dope. You learn anything. I hear people say YouTube can teach you anything.

51:12Chad Johnson:Yeah, YouTube University.

51:14Shannon Sharpe:15. You just finished the 15th season, right? Just finished 13. 13. Yeah. How much? I mean, there aren't a whole lot of fullbacks. You and Richard up in Baltimore. Y 'all are really the true fullbacks. Everybody else, they'll bring an offense or defensive lineman in on short yardage. But there's really you two guys left. Have you sat down with Christian and have you guys mapped out, you know what, babe, I want to play two more years. Babe, I want to play three more years. Or you want to play as long as a guy to give you health and allow you to do it. It seems to me that she's going to be very supportive.

51:46Shannon Sharpe:And she's not putting a time limit on when you guys, you know, you need to call it.

51:50Chad Johnson:That's exactly right. She's been super supportive that as long as I want to play, she's on board. and the way I look at it is as long as I'm healthy and I'm still having fun like I'm gonna keep doing it and so everyone you know when you get to this stage especially after like 10 years yes how many

52:06Trevor Lawrence:more years one at one at a time and that is the truth man like you really take it one year at a

52:11Chad Johnson:time and um I like to even push it to all right let's go two years at a time let's so nobody nobody's giving me a hard time yeah I wouldn't like another guarantee but I feel so good right now and I'm having so much fun like I can't even envision what it's like to stop playing yet so I'm not gonna you know put a end line at it let's I'm gonna tell you guys I'm gonna tell everyone else at least two more yeah and then we'll go one at a time

52:36Trevor Lawrence:the funny thing about it is is there's really no time there on on you and how long you can play because of the value that you bring for the team there aren't too many where there ain't none that and do what you do. Right.

52:47Chad Johnson:I appreciate that.

52:48Trevor Lawrence:There's only one other, and he's on the team.

52:50Chad Johnson:And you're not seeing too many fullbacks in college. Bingo. You're not seeing anyone getting drafted. It's a thankless job.

52:55Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. They give you a fourth and one, and when you don't get it, how could you not get it? Wrong. Because the whole team's teeing off right now. There were 12 guys. There were 12 guys. There were 12 guys in that eight gap. Well, congratulations, man, Kristen. Definitely. It was very nice to meet you.

53:10Sauce Gardner:Kyle, great talking to you guys. Congratulations, man. It's a pleasure, baby. Tell Bobby Tiaf. Another Harvard alumni, man. Yes, sir.

53:16Chad Johnson:Oh, I definitely do. Hey, before we leave, we do have to mention Invisalign. Oh, yeah. They're the reason we're here today. Okay. And just like Ocho here, I'm a nut about my health. Yeah. You know, everything I put into my body, I make sure it's the absolute best. Just like Ocho. And Invisalign is huge for oral health. And oral health is just another component of your overall health. And I always look at it. If I can improve any part of my body, that's going to improve part of my game. And so Ms. Align has helped with that. And in my mind, it's helping me with... They're such an amazing company.

53:51Chad Johnson:I've worked with them for three years now, so it's amazing to have Kyle finally on board. They do so much for women in sports and just like confidence building. So we're just happy to partner with them again. I also have another thing for you guys. I was about to ask. You saw those bags.

54:04Trevor Lawrence:Yes. We got gifts? We got gifts.

54:06Chad Johnson:I brought you guys my Super Bowl jackets. Wow.

54:09Trevor Lawrence:I don't have the right size for you. I'm a large.

54:12Chad Johnson:You're a large? I'll get you a large. I have an XL and a large.

54:14Trevor Lawrence:I think I might be able to.

54:15Chad Johnson:I got to get you an XL then. I think I might.

54:17Trevor Lawrence:No, no, he's the XL. I'm the large. No, I'm going to get you the large.

54:20Shannon Sharpe:Try that. I think that might fit you. I don't think I can fit that. I'm just been working out. Okay, Shelly said she could fit.

54:27Chad Johnson:You want? I can get you a 2X.

54:29Shannon Sharpe:But you know what I want you to? Can you make us a nightcap? You want a nightcap jacket? Yeah.

54:34Chad Johnson:I'll put it on it. I'll put it on. I'll figure a way out. She'll figure it out. Let's see. Don't let out on a show. Come on.

54:42Trevor Lawrence:Yeah, I'm sexy, bro. Yeah. No, hey. How'd it look? That looks amazing. That looks incredible. Yeah.

54:50Chad Johnson:Incredible. Fits great, too. Yeah. It's amazing. Yeah. So good. That goes crazy. All right, I'll get you the 2X. If you need a model, let me know. Okay, perfect.

54:58Shannon Sharpe:I definitely know. What do you wear, X or 2X? I'm an X. Okay, nah. You might need a 2X. All right, I'll get you the 2X.

55:06Chad Johnson:I'll send it over here.

55:07Shannon Sharpe:All right, thank you. I can keep this?

55:08Chad Johnson:You can keep it. It's for you. I hope you guys like it. Thank you so much. Thanks to you guys.

55:13Sauce Gardner:Appreciate you guys. It's a pleasure, baby.

55:15Trevor Lawrence:You look incredible. Thank you.

55:16Shannon Sharpe:Thanks, guys.

55:16Chad Johnson:Hope you like it. Thank you.

55:18Shannon Sharpe:Kyle and Christian Juszczyk, fullback for the San Francisco 49ers, made another Pro Bowl. He's one of the great fullbacks in the NFL. He's played for an extremely long time. He's played at an extremely, extremely high level. And his wife, as you can see, she's very, very supportive in it. And you see why they're one of the cutest couples in the NFL. Very supportive, very supportive. Hey.

55:46Trevor Lawrence:Can you hear me?

55:47Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

55:48Trevor Lawrence:Yeah. Do you know? No, don't look up there, man. Oh, okay. Can't look up there. It's too late. He done read it now, man. I ain't read it. Hey, do you know who Darth Vader's daughter is?

55:59Shannon Sharpe:Let me guess. It's another joke.

56:02Trevor Lawrence:Do you know who Darth Vader's daughter is?

56:04Shannon Sharpe:Darth Vader's daughter.

56:13hmm darth vader's daughter darth vader's daughter he only had one daughter

56:22Shannon Sharpe:no what's what's the name elevator

56:33Shannon Sharpe:oh man that was great that that is great i mean you you could i mean look i've never i've never met Kyle and Christian used to be, but they seem to genuinely, genuinely love each other. Yeah, yeah, most definitely. They seem to be genuinely, you know, like, so supportive of one another. Yes, yes. And she says, I get it. I understand he has to get extra treatment. I get it that he has to study.

56:59Trevor Lawrence:I'm not trying to rush him home. Yes! Hey, now how many would be understanding of that if you think about it? Think about your experiences. I think about my experiences when I was playing. Did I have the time? What was it? Mama! Where y 'all going? You going somewhere right now? Come on. Can we get five minutes of dollars? Get five minutes of dollars. Come on, man. That's what I'm talking about, man.

57:22Shannon Sharpe:You sitting in the middle, huh? Ah, you good? I'm good. Man, we looking for you last night, man. I just got here this morning. Oh, you just got here this morning? I just got here. Y 'all see who it is. 2020.

57:43Yeah.

57:46Former Rookie of the Year, Washington Commander's quarterback.

57:52Shannon Sharpe:Leave it on. How you doing, man? I'm good. What's up? I'm good. I'm good, bro. How you feeling? I'm feeling real good. Have you started off-season conditioning yet? Or are you giving your body a chance to heal up and get ready to start?

58:05Sauce Gardner:I had a long time to heal up. I already started.

58:08Shannon Sharpe:I started. You started back in December. I started. So where's home for you? I'm in L.A.

58:14Sauce Gardner:You in L.A.? Yeah.

58:15Shannon Sharpe:Oh, okay.

58:17Trevor Lawrence:You like it in L.A.?

58:18Sauce Gardner:Yeah, you know, I'm a SoCal boy. I understand.

58:21Trevor Lawrence:Most of the time, obviously, once you reach certain heights in your career, some people, you tend to move to a different place. That's always going to be home.

58:31Sauce Gardner:Even L.A., I'm not from L.A. I'm from the Inland Empire. That's like an hour east.

58:37Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fine.

58:38Sauce Gardner:But I'm most definitely, that's always going to be home. So Kyle, always home.

58:41Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Okay. So watching these two teams, the Patriots, Drake obviously was in your draft, Sam Darnold, with the USC third pick in the draft. Everybody that we've come on, we have not found one player that has picked the Patriots to win this game. How do you see this game playing out?

58:59Jayden Daniels:Pick the Patriots? Ain't nobody pick the Patriots? No, not what?

59:03Shannon Sharpe:I can tell you why they haven't.

59:05Sauce Gardner:I mean, I'm going to roll in my draft class.

59:07Shannon Sharpe:Okay, you're taking Drake.

59:08Sauce Gardner:I'm going to roll my drag class. Okay, I like that.

59:11Trevor Lawrence:What you mean? You serious?

59:12Sauce Gardner:I'm going to roll my drag class.

59:14Trevor Lawrence:Even with that defense the Seahawks have at all three levels?

59:16Sauce Gardner:They've got a phenomenal defense.

59:17Trevor Lawrence:Huh?

59:18Sauce Gardner:I played them. They've got a phenomenal defense. Yeah.

59:20Trevor Lawrence:But I've got to roll my drag class. Okay, you're rolling those drag class. Okay, okay, okay.

59:23Shannon Sharpe:How do you see this game playing out?

59:27Sauce Gardner:Man, I think whoever is able to, whatever defense is able to stop the run and kind of limit and keep them one-sided. Obviously, what the Seahawks has done this year offensively, defensively, out of the world. Jay is saying, obviously, the numbers he put up. Sam's been balling. But, man, I feel like if Drake can keep going, man, they got a good chance.

59:52Shannon Sharpe:Obviously, like you said, you have a lot of time to recover, to decompress. So, obviously, you're back in the training.

59:59Sauce Gardner:Yeah.

1:00:00Shannon Sharpe:But there's still some things that you probably like to do. So what do you do now until you get, I mean, really, really start with like April and you're having to start getting back to OTAs? What are you doing in your free time right now?

1:00:13Sauce Gardner:Outside, I'm just spending time with my family, spending time with my loved ones. You know, you kind of sacrifice that time throughout the season. You don't really get that time. So it's like after I'm done with my obligations of training and doing whatever, man, if I take the time to watch the film, go back and watch the season, You know, I'm kind of just spending time with my loved ones, my friends. You know, they'll come visit me. We'll kind of just kick it.

1:00:36Trevor Lawrence:You know, you're like, what a fun. What's going to have some fun? What you mean? Like dirt bike riding, motorcycles, bull riding, parachuting, no parachute. Man, the commanders would kill me.

1:00:47Sauce Gardner:They heard I was doing something like that. I'm tripping. It is off season. It is off season. It is off season. I might hoop here and there.

1:00:54Trevor Lawrence:You go?

1:00:55Sauce Gardner:Yeah. Can you?

1:00:56Trevor Lawrence:What you play? What you mean? What? You're not. I ain't going to say nothing. What you mean? You know, in high school, I average 52 a game. 52 a game? 52. How many games? Three. Okay. Okay. Three. Yeah. You know, I do it all now. You know my background.

1:01:12Sauce Gardner:I do.

1:01:12Trevor Lawrence:Yeah. He played with my son, Cole.

1:01:17Shannon Sharpe:How much film do you watch in the offseason? Do you watch, you know, you go back and look at what your team did, what you did last year, or do you fast forward or do you move forward?

1:01:28Sauce Gardner:No, I think I learned this from Bobby Wagner last year. Like, he does it after every year. He goes back and watches the whole season and evaluates himself. Okay. So that's kind of what I do. And then this year, you know, I kind of already started it, so I finished it. But at that point, it's like, okay, now I kind of have an understanding of, like, this is what I feel like I need to work on this offseason and stuff like that. So I have a better gist when it comes to sitting down and talking to my team around me. Like, this is what I feel like I need to work on. Oh, man.

1:01:57Shannon Sharpe:Jay, appreciate you, man. Hey, all the best. Get healthy. Stay healthy. Hey, this is a big year. You know it. This is a big year. You know it. Hey, I'm counting on you now. All right, got you. All right. Come tap in with a night count one night next year. Tap in the bed. Bet.

1:02:20Shannon Sharpe:That's. Ready. Sauce.

1:02:24Shannon Sharpe:Sauce.

1:02:27Sauce Gardner:Sauce. Come on. What up, twin?

1:02:31Shannon Sharpe:Archie, come on.

1:02:34Sauce Gardner:Got a card?

1:02:36Shannon Sharpe:Oh, I thought you was trying to get me something.

1:02:37Sauce Gardner:Give me a card.

1:02:38Shannon Sharpe:Huh?

1:02:39Sauce Gardner:Give me a card.

1:02:40Shannon Sharpe:Oh, okay. Oh, real quick.

1:02:42Sauce Gardner:Okay.

1:02:45Shannon Sharpe:Selfie, selfie, selfie. What's up, bro? You good?

1:02:50Shannon Sharpe:Joining us now is All-Pro Defensive Rookie of the Year. Woo! Yeah.

1:02:57Trevor Lawrence:Hey, boy, he look like money, huh? Now go ahead and put him on. Yeah, because that way you can hear it. Ooh!

1:03:04Shannon Sharpe:Can you hear us now? Hold on. Okay.

1:03:06Trevor Lawrence:Hold on. Let me unzip, man. Let me unzip, man. Hey, let me unzip, man.

1:03:11Sauce Gardner:I do got to ask you. Hold on. I've been seeing you. Yeah. I've been seeing you. Yeah. I mean, you can't come on here stunting on us like that, man. I thought he was the cheap guy. Who? What happened to that? I'm still cheap. Yeah, what happened to that? Hold on. Let me see that. What? Oh, yo. Yeah, this ain't no... Yeah, come on, man. Yeah, that ain't a Jubilee bracelet. That's a presidential band. Yeah, that's what I do. I want to be the president.

1:03:37Shannon Sharpe:Well, actually, it's called a day-day. They call it the presidential bracelet because that's what... The president is there. No, Senator Kennedy when he had it on. I know Kennedy. So they gave it that nickname. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, but it's actually a day-day. But anyway, songs. How you doing, bro? I'm good. Check this out. It's a blessing to be here, man.

1:04:00Sauce Gardner:Blessing to be here, man.

1:04:01Shannon Sharpe:There's no way you could envision. Obviously, you played well your first couple years. You got ding, and then you signed this massive contract, this massive contract in the offseason. And not even six, seven months later, you dealt to the Indianapolis Colts. Tell me what goes through your mind when they give you that call and say, Sauce, we're trading you to Indy and the aftermath of that.

1:04:26Sauce Gardner:I can't give you my exact reaction, but I wasn't mad at it. Really? I wasn't mad at it.

1:04:37Trevor Lawrence:How could he be mad? You're going from the Jets to the Colts. You're going from a team that's not contending to going to a Colts team that is doing extremely well. I wouldn't be mad either.

1:04:49Sauce Gardner:But I do. I did, like, miss. I miss the fans. You know, my teammates. You know, the fans when it wasn't like toxic energy. I'm talking about those type of the fans when I got drafted, me, Gary. They're excited. The excitement, the optimism, and not the looking for bad every time it's something good. Yes. Like those fans. Because all of the fans weren't like that. You had some true diehard Jets fans who always wanted positives. Yes. Like, you know, things to come out of it. But I did miss the good ones, and I did miss my teammates. Sauce, I would be remiss if I said, looking at you your first two years,

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1:08:44Shannon Sharpe:Some of your play has slipped and you weren't that same player. I wasn't the only one that felt that way. But I have you here and I can't say, well, you know, all of a sudden I have you here. It's not going to say what I've said before many times on NICAP before. Do you feel your play has slipped? And if so, is it injuries? What transpired where you're not that? Because people started to challenge you, whereas your first two years, ain't nobody trying to see saws. They was caught up in the saws.

1:09:11Sauce Gardner:See, look, this is why I think y 'all don't understand. Okay. It was the opposite. The first two years, everybody was trying to see what was up with me. I was having 80 targets. The first two years, I was having 80 targets. So are we going to talk about, like, ratio? Yes. I was having 80 targets and was getting like, all right, I'll get two picks out of that when I should have had more picks with 80-something targets. Correct. I'm getting 30-something targets. The only other corner that is getting that same amount of respect and treatment is Pat. Nobody else is getting it. Pat is the only other corner where it's like, and another thing, people don't really see me get beat.

1:09:55Sauce Gardner:that's why if I ask you which plays have I got beat in you will know exactly which one you want me to tell you why because you don't see too much plays that I give you

1:10:02Trevor Lawrence:you can always recall

1:10:04Sauce Gardner:if I ask you what play what are you going to say George George had a play on me this year he's probably one of like three receivers to have 50 some yards on me as a single receiver I've never gave up a 100 yard game in general let alone to a receiver it's never happened and I don't plan on that happening um probably the most yards I've allowed by a receiver it's probably about 50 some 60 and after George even made that play he didn't catch another ball right I mean that's that's me though but I understand how it could be especially like social media you know sometimes when you just you know when you're not really watching and understanding, you just see certain stuff and you just see the negative because that's how I am.

1:10:53Sauce Gardner:Nobody's posted. In my first couple years, speaking of Jets fans, even if it was some negative, they was always talking about the positive. Now, if it's a negative play, everybody want to get on that negative track. Bro, I got one question.

1:11:10Shannon Sharpe:Yes.

1:11:11Sauce Gardner:Why am why is my a play from Atlanta where I tripped on somebody put on a two-point conversion trending while the game is still going on.

1:11:24Shannon Sharpe:Because of your greatness. You're who you are. Trust me, if you wouldn't be trending, if you weren't great, because you built this. The little things trend.

1:11:36Sauce Gardner:So that's why I come to this point. People know now, if you want to get engagement, if you're having a bad day of engagement, just mention Saucy's name. It's free. It's free. Everybody knows that. I don't want to give the little Twitter page, whatever they call it. I'm not even going to say their name. But y 'all probably know them. I'm not even going to give them no little pub. But they know. Because it'd be so random. I'd be chilling. I'd just look. I'm like, dang, why are they tagging me? Where am I coming from? They'd make a little list. Overrated guys in the league. Yeah, yeah. It'd be four quarterbacks in one corner.

1:12:13Sauce Gardner:What do you think the corner is? Like, what are we talking about?

1:12:16Trevor Lawrence:Does that bother you? Does that bother you? Does that affect you in any way when there's negativity on social media? Or are you able to compartmentalize both and be able to still, you know what, forget what they're talking about. I'm still going to go out here and handle my business.

1:12:29Sauce Gardner:Well, it definitely don't affect me on the field. It never has affected me on the field. I remember when I was early in my career, like, it'd be like, bro, what? Like, what sense is this making? Right. And then now it's just like, that comes with the territory. Yes. Like, what type of time I've been on. But I do want to have more picks and stuff like that. But that just lets me know, like, all right, I just got to make the most out of these opportunities that's going to come because they're not coming. All right, Atlanta game. I broke on the ball. I'm like, I'm thinking Drake London. I'm thinking Drake London about to jump into me and try to go.

1:13:01Sauce Gardner:So I die. When it's like if I know he was just going to sit there, I should have just ran through the ball. But it's like from that point, I never had another out. And throughout the season, when I was with the Jets, I didn't have no pick out. but so basically what I'm saying is like if we're going to talk about it we got to talk about it it got to be an even playing field because I feel like at times and this the reality

1:13:25Shannon Sharpe:I don't it's excuses for other guys yes it's excuses y 'all make excuses for these other corners

1:13:33Sauce Gardner:and I don't want no excuses don't make no excuse for me tell me say what's really going on with me but say what's really going on with everybody else too if y 'all gonna try to compare me to these other guys or compare these other guys to me because that's just how I think it should go. You healthy?

1:13:49Shannon Sharpe:You healthy? All the way? Because you had the calf injury and there was a concern obviously anytime someone gets a calf injury they get really concerned now with the Achilles and so they kind of be overly cautious and maybe where you could have came back in one to two weeks, they push it to three or four weeks to make sure because that's the last thing as a coroner, you don't want to ever have to deal with that and knock on wood, hopefully that does not happen. But you're 100 % you have you already started your offseason?

1:14:16Sauce Gardner:I'm in Miami with it.

1:14:17Trevor Lawrence:You had the crib. I just got there. Okay. Okay. You want to get some work and let me know. Okay. So what's what's the one thing

1:14:27Shannon Sharpe:That's gonna take sauce gardeners game to the next level? What do you what do you want to work on? Ball skills hand-eye because you can say when you get those opportunities if you only will get two opportunities you got the kill. That's why animals, you know, venomous snakes in Australia, they not come across one animal but for a long period of time. So they got to strike it. That venom got to take instantaneous. If you're only getting two targets a game, bro, you're going to have to make something. You're going to have to make it happen, Sauce. Look, there's the difference.

1:14:56Sauce Gardner:All right, let's go more in depth. Targets. Yes. Every target is not a pickable target. No. So if I'm getting two targets a game and they throwing it at the ground, under throw, out of bounce. All right, I had two targets, and I didn't get off. What about pass breakups? Yeah, some of them probably can. This is what I want to do. I want to take more chances. That's what I want to do because it's not even always just like, all right, just catch the ball. I have had some drops where it's like, just catch the ball. Some of them still hunt me. Anytime I see that in person, I immediately think of their 2022 play where he threw it right to me, and I dropped it.

1:15:35Sauce Gardner:You know, but taking chances, too, because I've been in the league some years, so I take some chances so I can make more plays, you know, game change. I mean, you study.

1:15:43Shannon Sharpe:I mean, trust your instinct. Sometimes I don't think you trust your instinct. You on top of it, and you like.

1:15:49Sauce Gardner:Sometimes I just settle for the PBE. For sure, for sure. But I'm not going to lie to you and be like, yeah, I'll always just go take a shot, you know. But, you know, like you said, studying the whole week, like, you don't have no reason why you shouldn't. I'll be like, that's the play where I'm about to, you know.

1:16:05Shannon Sharpe:You go into a week and say, you know what? If they run this route, if they run this route in this down and distance,

1:16:13Sauce Gardner:in this area of the field. And more times than so, they always do. Yes. Because this is a copycat lead. So they end up running it and I just PBU. Yeah. It's like some, if I dive, not the one like in Atlanta, but it's something like if I dive here, like, all right, this is big. I could dive.

1:16:28Trevor Lawrence:How do you feel about traveling with the number one receiver?

1:16:30Sauce Gardner:Oh, and that's another thing. I'm happy we here because y 'all look one thing about y 'all y 'all talk about all of the stuff that people want to hear you know what I'm saying so look alright we're going to start from 2022 yeah ah Sauce not traveling with the receiver one he's not doing that I couldn't Kosala wouldn't let me and I don't think he still let his guys do that right last year not including this season last year traveled with the one receiver same thing going on I got lower targets traveling with the ones than when I didn't travel with the ones. Like, I'm just saying, like, I guess I have, the source have to bring the facts.

1:17:12Sauce Gardner:Right. I have, I've got double the amount of targets traveling, not traveling, then traveling. Just staying on one side. Oh, he get too many PIs, da-da-da. That's what the talk was when, last year? Yeah. Da-da-da. I think I only had, like, three this year. Or four. oh, he be missing tacos. Da-da-da-da-da. I think I only had two missed tacos this year. Okay. Who have you seen say anything about that? Nobody. Nobody. So we going to really be real. Let's be real. But a lot of people prefer to say the negative and just keep the negative there and don't address the positive. So everybody's just looking at it on this negative thing.

1:17:53Sauce Gardner:But I'm a realist person, so I'm going to talk about the good and the bad of everything, whether it's any other corner. Like, oh, yeah, yeah, him, yeah, he ain't have a good game this game. Oh, he had a good game this game. Like, yeah, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And these corners y 'all compare me to, that's how it'll go. Sometimes they'll have a bad game. Yes. But if I have a bad game, everybody knows I had a bad game.

1:18:17Trevor Lawrence:But it's different because it's a gift and a curse based on who you are, based on the brand that you've become. For one, you were in New York. You know what being in that market does to you. It takes you from here to there. You were already great, especially your first two years. So, therefore, they're going to judge you a lot more differently than all the other corners in the NFL. So it comes with the territory. And you got a nickname.

1:18:39Shannon Sharpe:What's that nickname?

1:18:41Sauce Gardner:Sting is not—that's just short for— I like Sting. Sting, that's a good nickname. But it's short for Stingley. Ain't no part of your first name, Sauce.

1:18:51Shannon Sharpe:What's your government? Amon. Hey, Sauce. Sauce. And plus you can line it up to my, hey, it got caught up in the sauce. And so people like.

1:19:06Sauce Gardner:People like, why is he doing this marketing stuff with his name? And my corner can't do that right now. You think that's what it is? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

1:19:14Shannon Sharpe:Absolutely.

1:19:15Sauce Gardner:But look, what y 'all want me to do. Nothing. It's the same. No, no. Know what I'm saying? Like, I can't do nothing about who I am as a person. And what I like. Nor should you.

1:19:24Shannon Sharpe:But I give you a prime example. Look at time. Don't nobody call him Deon. Everybody call him Prime of Time. And he understood what came along with that, and he called a lot of the same stuff because time came in a year before me. He called it the same. A lot of the stuff that you did, he called early in his career. But he flipped that narrative.

1:19:43Sauce Gardner:Now it's on you to do the same. Yeah, for sure. No, he's somebody who I don't, obviously I watch his highlights, but him as a person, so that's somebody who I know is the closest to what I can relate to. You know what I'm saying? But his was a little more like he was really overly popping it off the field. Like fur like. You can do that. You can do that. That's not even. I'm not going to do something. That's not you. That's not you. I'm not the. Man, take advantage of it. No. Don't listen to him, baby.

1:20:11Shannon Sharpe:The fur. That's not even.

1:20:13Trevor Lawrence:Matter of fact. My own people is going to be looking at me like, bro, this is not even. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. When you score, when you get an interception, put the fur on the sideline.

1:20:20Sauce Gardner:Don't do that, man. I could do that. You see what I'm talking about? Sauce. Hey, take it from here. Take it from here. That's awesome. Take it from here to here. No, they didn't know it's his fault. So don't get mad at me. Hey, come out and holler us on Nightcap. Oh, yeah. Just let me know when. My team said y 'all reached out. Yes, we did. I'll pull up. Easy.

1:20:40Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all be out on the West Coast, huh? Yeah, but you're in Miami, so I have to come down there because we was talking about Club Chey-Shey. Club Chey-Shey? Yeah.

1:20:48Sauce Gardner:Club Chey-Shey, that's a little different, huh? That's the one with, like, his Cat Williams deal. Cat Williams deal. Yeah. So that's 101.

1:20:53Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. I remember that when I was there. That's the nightcap. You're on nightcap right now. But we got a little different vibe. We got a little different vibe at night than we are now. We got to be, you know, on advertising and everything. We're chilling. Yeah, we're chilling.

1:21:05Sauce Gardner:Yeah, I'll come on a club show show. You know what I'm saying? Appreciate you, bro.

1:21:10Shannon Sharpe:We'll reach out. Appreciate you, man. Thank you. Thank you. Sauce Gardner, ladies and gentlemen, two-time first-team All-Pro. Defensive Rookie of the Year. Traded from the New York Jets into the Indianapolis Colts. We got something. No.

1:21:31Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, we got, we got. Okay. Oh, shit. He here? He coming. We got a very special guest joining us. Three questions. Oh, hold on. Am I supposed to read? I'm reading.

1:21:42Trevor Lawrence:If you could pick two past NFL teams to play in the Super Bowl, who would they be? Oh, two past teams? Past teams. Uh... Two past teams.

1:21:57Shannon Sharpe:I want to go back to Super Bowl 49, and I want Seattle to play the Patriots again. And Pete Carroll and what you call them, don't run that dumbass. Don't run the ball. Don't call that dumbass. Darryl Bevel, don't call that dumbass fast play. I'm trying to think.

1:22:15Trevor Lawrence:I want the Bengals to come back. I want to repeat that game against the Rams. Okay. And on that fourth down, that fourth and one, I don't want it to be pass interference on Logan Wilson.

1:22:25Shannon Sharpe:Okay.

1:22:26Trevor Lawrence:And, oh, so you want to win?

1:22:28Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

1:22:29Trevor Lawrence:What kind of thing? I want to win. I absolutely want to win. Because they cheated us out of the Super Bowl.

1:22:35Shannon Sharpe:I'm trying to think. 76. The Steelers had one of the great defenses in 1970. I'm trying to think who won the Super Bowl in 76.

1:22:46Shannon Sharpe:Who won the Super Bowl in 76? Was it the Cowboys? The Steelers had an outstanding defense. In 76, Ocho, their last nine games, they gave up 28 points with four shutouts. The last nine games? The last nine games. 28 points? Total? Total. Are you sure? Total. Total.

1:23:07Trevor Lawrence:That don't even sound realistic.

1:23:10Shannon Sharpe:They did, Ocho. They were that good. They were better in the 2000 Ravens defense? When you look at it, they gave up like, I think back then they were only playing 14 games go.

1:23:19Trevor Lawrence:Okay.

1:23:20Shannon Sharpe:But when you look at it, Ocho, what they gave up, because normally historic defenses only get rewarded if they go and win the Super Bowl. Super Bowl, okay. 85 Bears, 2 ,000 Ravens, the 0-2, 13, Legion of Boom. But you look at it, actually the 84 Bears were better than the, yeah, the 84, 86 Bears were better than the 85 Bears. But they don't get the credit for it. Because they didn't win. They didn't win. They didn't win. I think 84 Bears. But the 76 Steelers, go look up those Steelers' defensive stats, and you'll see. They had eight starters in the Pro Bowl. Their entire secondary started the Pro Bowl.

1:23:58Shannon Sharpe:Jesus.

1:24:01Shannon Sharpe:They had eight starters. There's only, you know, there's only 22. They had eight starters in the Pro Bowl that year. They were loaded. But this has been great, man. We've had another jam-packed day. Trevor Lawrence, Sauce Gardner, Kyle and Christy Juszczyk. Man, we've had so many people roll through here. Michael Pittman Jr.

1:24:28Trevor Lawrence:Who do you all think is the best defensive player in the Super Bowl this year? Who's the best defensive player in general in the Super Bowl? Who's the most valuable and impactful defensive player?

1:24:42Shannon Sharpe:You probably have to make a case for Spoon or Gonzalez.

1:24:49Trevor Lawrence:yeah they don't even target Gonzalez in general probably yeah

1:24:57Shannon Sharpe:probably

1:25:02Trevor Lawrence:that's a damn good question collectively as a whole the Seahawks are really good at all three levels so there's no one player that's like Aaron Donald

1:25:14Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, or Miles Garrett. They don't have that one guy that sticks out. But, boy.

1:25:23Trevor Lawrence:That's good. If anything, I would go with Christian Gonzalez as well because offensively he kind of shuts down one side of the field for the fact that you do everything and you just stay away from that one individual.

1:25:33Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. I definitely think the Seahawks' defense secondary as a whole is better because when you take Spoon, Wolin, Love, you take those guys, That's Ernest Jones. Yes. Ernest Jones IV has been spectacular. And then you got Leonard Williams. You got Deedlaw. You got Jarrett. You got Reed. They're really good. But I think people are really undervaluing the Patriots.

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