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Nightcap Podcast Episode Summary
Episode Title
Nightcap LIVE from Super Bowl Radio Row: Hour 2
Overview In this episode of Nightcap, hosts Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson broadcast live from Super Bowl Radio Row in San Francisco, where they discuss the latest in sports, including NFL and NBA highlights. The episode features high-profile guests, including MMA legend Daniel Cormier, NFL stars Ja'Marr Chase and Tee Higgins, and more.
Key Highlights
Introduction
- The hosts set the scene for the Super Bowl, highlighting the matchup between the New England Patriots and the Seattle Seahawks.
- They react to major sports headlines, including the Dallas Mavericks' trade of Anthony Davis to the Washington Wizards.
Guest Segments
- Daniel Cormier (00:00 - 41:25)
- Discusses the potential return of Jon Jones to the 205 lb weight class and fights he would love to see.
- Talks about the evolution of the UFC and its partnership with Paramount, extending its reach beyond pay-per-view events.
- Highlights the significance of wrestling in MMA and the skill set required to excel in the sport.
- Jordan Poyer (41:25 - 51:00)
- Reflects on his NFL journey, injuries, and the complexities of maintaining health as an athlete.
- Speaks about the challenges of transitioning from a structured football life to a post-career phase, including a focus on mental health and identity.
- Ja'Marr Chase & Tee Higgins (51:00 - End)
- Both players discuss their experiences in the NFL, emphasizing the importance of team success over personal achievements.
- Highlight the need for improvement on the Bengals' defense to compete at the highest level consistently.
- Chase shares insights on establishing a podcast and the significance of their friendship as teammates.
Key Themes and Discussions
- Team Dynamics and Performance: The discussions emphasize the necessity of teamwork and overcoming individual challenges for collective success.
- Mental Health Awareness: The transition from professional sports to life after sports is highlighted, focusing on identity crisis and the importance of mental well-being.
- Trade Talk and NFL Rumors: The hosts discuss potential player trades and their impact on team dynamics, particularly in relation to upcoming Super Bowl matchups.
Notable Quotes
- Shannon Sharpe on Jon Jones: “He’s such a good fighter that if he can get down to that weight, he’s going to be better because he’s going to be faster.”
- Ja'Marr Chase on team success: “We play the game to make it to the Super Bowl at the end of the day. If we're not doing that, then we’re not doing anything for the organization.”
Conclusion The episode wraps up with excitement for the upcoming Super Bowl and continues to build on the camaraderie and competitive spirit of the guests. The hosts express gratitude to listeners and hint at future episodes and guest appearances.
Call to Action Listeners are encouraged to download the PrizePicks app and enjoy the new Chicken Bacon Ranch Street Chalupa from Taco Bell as part of their sponsorship.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VODiscussion on Jon Jones and Weight Classes
2:47 to 6:20
Analyzing Jon Jones' performance and weight class transitions.
“If he, if, listen, I think if he, if Jones decides to go to 205 and fight Pereira, that's the fight.”
UFC's New Streaming Model
6:20 to 9:20
Exploring the new partnership between UFC and Paramount for free viewing.
“That wasn't the way he was going to beat Justin Gaethje.”
Potential Fights and Fighters to Watch
9:20 to 13:40
Discussing intriguing matchups and rising stars in the UFC.
“I don't know how these dudes got the discipline to not hit him.”
Conor McGregor’s Future in UFC
13:40 to 14:02
Debating whether Conor McGregor will return to the octagon.
“the Peyton Manning and the Tom Brady's and the guy that's made hundreds of millions of dollars to steal, but all they're doing is throwing the football.”
The Physical Toll of Fighting
14:02 to 15:00
Learn about the challenges fighters face as they age and take time off from the sport.
“You got some shorts on and nothing else with gloves, right?”
Discussion on NFL Teams and Strategies
15:00 to 16:44
Insights into NFL teams, strategies, and the dynamics of sports fandom.
“And he was in his prime and he was still young when he came back.”
Age and Performance in Combat Sports
16:44 to 17:48
Explore the impact of age on fighters and the evolution of the sport.
“But you're struggling to put up points against Denver.”
Demetrius Johnson's Legacy
20:22 to 21:44
A look at Demetrius Johnson's impressive techniques and contributions to MMA.
“He got the dude with his hands locked behind him.”
The Evolution of UFC
21:44 to 23:08
Discuss the growth of UFC and the vision behind its success.
“The next thing you know, the dude was like.”
Wrestling's Role in MMA
23:08 to 24:08
Understand how wrestling impacts the dynamics of MMA fights.
“But today, I think that question has been answered.”
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The Importance of Diverse Sports Experience
24:08 to 25:09
Insights on the benefits of participating in multiple sports for young athletes.
“They got the best high school wrestling in the country.”
Parenting a Young Athlete
25:09 to 27:14
Explore the challenges and considerations of raising a child in sports.
“I don't think that you should, I think that in most sports today, kids specialize.”
Final Thoughts with Daniel Cormier
27:14 to 28:00
Wrap up discussion reflecting on Daniel Cormier's insights and experiences.
“Were y 'all on good football teams in high school?”
Daniel Cormier's Wrestling Journey
28:00 to 28:30
Learn about Daniel Cormier's early wrestling achievements and mindset.
“And I done made the United States world team for 16-year-olds.”
Super Bowl Predictions and Team Analysis
28:30 to 29:40
Discussion on team dynamics and predictions for the upcoming Super Bowl.
“DC Cormier, one of the great MMA mixed martial artists of all time.”
Behind the Scenes at Radio Row
29:40 to 30:40
Experience the energetic atmosphere and preparations for the live show.
“And when you get that, you get everybody falling in line.”
NBA Trade Analysis and Impact
31:00 to 35:50
In-depth analysis of recent NBA trades and their implications.
“So we've had a basically two hours steady stream of guys coming on, talking about their season, talking about what they need to do in order to make sure their team is in this situation next year.”
Kawhi Leonard's Performance and Comparison
37:10 to 42:00
Discussion on Kawhi Leonard's current season performance and comparisons.
“And we know Joel Embiid, his injury history.”
Kawhi Leonard's Impressive Season
42:00 to 43:00
Learn about Kawhi Leonard's resurgence and impact on the NBA this season.
“And when he's healthy, he's one of the best players in the NBA.”
Memphis Grizzlies Rebuild
43:00 to 44:10
Discussion on the Memphis Grizzlies' trades and their rebuilding phase.
“Remember what I said on this show many times when we talked about basketball?”
Super Bowl Predictions and Insights
44:10 to 46:10
Insightful predictions and analysis for upcoming Super Bowl matchups.
“I love what Mike Brable has done culturally and keeping that Patriot way system and the way they conduct business alive.”
Excitement for Upcoming Guests
46:10 to 47:20
Hosts express excitement about featuring special guests later in the show.
“Like I said, I don't think a whole lot of people are giving the Patriots credit because, like you said, he threw for 86 yards.”
Bill Safety's Football Journey
47:20 to 49:10
Bill Safety shares his experiences and challenges throughout his football career.
“I don't know if they have prior engagements or they were just coming over here.”
Transition from Football: Identity and Mental Health
49:10 to 52:50
A candid discussion on the transition from professional sports and mental health awareness.
“and he spends one year in Miami, and now he's back with the Buffalo Bills, signed late August, activated week six.”
Navigating Life Beyond Sports
52:50 to 56:00
Exploration of life after sports, purpose, and the importance of self-awareness.
“You said, you know, this thing, this football, because for the better part of your life, everything has been structured.”
The Weight of Expectation on Quarterbacks
56:00 to 57:24
Explore the immense expectations placed on top quarterbacks and how they handle pressure.
“and I think it's all important for us to continue to share our life, just like you guys are doing.”
Transition to Jamar Chase and Tee Higgins
57:24 to 58:14
The hosts shift their focus to the upcoming conversation with NFL stars Jamar Chase and Tee Higgins.
“But I think he rises to that in the moments.”
Chase on Super Bowl Aspirations
58:14 to 1:00:09
Jamar Chase discusses the importance of strengthening their defense for championship contention.
“I get to say, you know, I got tired of looking young.”
Tee Higgins as GM: Making Necessary Changes
1:00:09 to 1:02:33
Tee Higgins shares his views on what changes are necessary for the Bengals to compete consistently.
“and then we can worry about the offensive side.”
The Best Duo in Football
1:05:03 to 1:10:00
Jamar Chase and Tee Higgins engage in a lively debate about their status as the top duo in the NFL.
“Take 5, the stay in your car 10-minute oil change.”
Football vs. Basketball Dynamics
1:10:00 to 1:11:39
Explore the complexities of player interaction in football compared to basketball.
“Y 'all didn't ask Michael Jordan to wait to the fourth quarter of the football.”
Involvement in Offense
1:11:40 to 1:13:19
Discuss how early player involvement can positively impact offensive strategies.
“So, like, that's why me and T get along so much.”
Launching a Podcast
1:13:20 to 1:14:44
Learn about the journey of starting a podcast and the topics it will cover.
“Sometimes I'm going to try to stream from Twitch.”
Offseason Plans and Brand Building
1:14:45 to 1:15:36
Discover the off-field activities and branding efforts of athletes during the offseason.
“But then, man, you know, just working together, man.”
Fashion in the NFL
1:15:37 to 1:17:45
Examine the evolving fashion sense of NFL players and its significance.
“You want to do a fashion line or you just like, obviously, is that something you're interested in?”
Celebrating Success
1:17:46 to 1:18:22
Acknowledge the achievements of players and the importance of teamwork.
“See, that's the thing with me, too, man.”
Transcript
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2:06Shannon Sharpe:We got a living legend coming in here. He is a former light heavyweight. A former heavyweight.
2:16Tee Higgins:You gonna get him up? Hey, you better not mess with Kamaru, man. You better not mess with Kamaru, man.
2:22Shannon Sharpe:You see, I've been trying to tell him.
2:23Tee Higgins:He wanna fight everybody.
2:25Shannon Sharpe:He does. He does. He's just saying that. Daniel Corbin.
2:29Tee Higgins:You better stay away from tomorrow, man.
2:31Shannon Sharpe:No, we're going to go on the White House card. Me and him. Oh. DC. Yeah. Talk to, hey, we had Dana on, and Dana's like, I don't know. You know, it might be a possibility that J.J. make that White House card. He and Pieta.
2:48Tee Higgins:If he, if, listen, I think if he, if Jones decides to go to 205 and fight Pereira, that's the fight. That's the fight.
2:57Shannon Sharpe:You don't think Pereira can go up?
2:59Tee Higgins:At heavyweight? Yeah. Yeah.
3:00Shannon Sharpe:No?
3:01Tee Higgins:He too small? Nah, man, I think, I gotta be honest with y 'all. I think John Jones is better at 205. Right. What? I think he better at 205. Let me tell you why. It takes discipline to get back down to the weight. Get down to the weight. Yes, yes. So he'd have to be so disciplined in his preparation. That's why he was so good at 205, because he was having to live so clean to make sure he can get down to the weight and do everything the right way. So, yeah, I think him and Pereira at 205 is the fight.
3:29Shannon Sharpe:You think he can get back down there after being a heavy for, like, four or five years?
3:34Tee Higgins:Hey, me and Jon Jones did a reality show together. Yeah. Just recently. Uh-huh. And he a big boy.
3:40Daniel Cormier:Yeah.
3:40Tee Higgins:But he kind of, like, you know when, like, a tall, skinny dude gets a little fat? Yeah. That's how he look right now.
3:46Daniel Cormier:But would that take away from his skill set? No, I think he's better. If you're able to get down after being so big, not so big, but being bigger for so long, does it take away or deteriorate your skill set if you try to fight yourself down to a certain weight class just to fight?
4:01Tee Higgins:Chad, I think this dude is such a good fighter that if he can get down to that weight, he's going to be better because he's going to be faster. Yes. He's going to be in better shape cardio-wise. Right. The way he looked against Steve Amy Oates was crazy. He beat him so bad, dog. And Quigg, too. I mean, I felt bad. I felt bad. You know why? Stipe took all—like, he waited so long to fight him. How you going to not fight for two years and come back and be 41 years old? You can't fight him your first— Not after two years old. Right. You're 41 years old. You've been a fireman for two years. John beat him bad, man.
4:34Tee Higgins:Yeah. John beat him bad. And then John—you know what's messed up about John Jones, man? What? It's crazy, man. You know what this brother did? What? Stipe Miocic is a nice guy. Yeah, he is. Right? But John, him and I have, like, such a bad history. So he don't have to, like, search for stuff to make himself mad at me because I'm constantly on his head. Right. Stipe Miocic and him, they had a press conference. John Jones all of a sudden talking about, and then Stipe said, I'm a bad dad. Stipe looking at him like, I never said that. Stipe looking so surprised, like, I never even said that. But John in his mind trying to make himself mad at Stipe.
5:11Tee Higgins:Right, okay. But he wanted to kick his ass. And so he did. He's been looking around like, man, I never said nothing about this man's children.
5:17Shannon Sharpe:What about this new partnership, UFC and Paramount? Now, if you have the app, you can watch. I mean, the streaming service, you can watch it. So now you're going to be in millions and millions of homes. You don't have the pay-per-view fight. And I think that's a great thing. I think you're going to be able to reach a larger audience because it's free.
5:36Tee Higgins:Hey, listen. The other day, we had the first fight. It's called the numbered event now. They're not pay-per-views. Right. And it was two weeks ago we had Justin Gaethje versus Paddy Pimbley. Yes. It was one of the most watched fights in UFC history. Wow. Because it was in so many holes. People just download the app. I think it's a big win for the UFC, and I think it puts us in line with so many of the other sports out there in the world. You don't pay to watch NFL games. Nope. You don't pay to watch basketball. Yeah, no. Now you don't have to pay that extra money to watch the UFC.
6:09Shannon Sharpe:Are you surprised at how good Gaethje looked against Patti?
6:13Tee Higgins:I was not surprised. I was surprised that Patti didn't try to wrestle him more.
6:18Daniel Cormier:Right. Patti seemed very, very open to standing with Justin.
6:24Tee Higgins:But Justin's trying to throw hands. That wasn't the way he was going to beat Justin Gaethje. Also, you're not beating Max Holloway. Who? You. You're not beating Max Holloway. You're not lasting three minutes with Max Holloway. I'm sorry, bro. What about Kamaru?
6:38Daniel Cormier:Max too small.
6:39Tee Higgins:Max too small. Hey, listen. You told him right to him. You told him right. You were like, hey, man, listen, man. You ain't fighting this dude.
6:46Daniel Cormier:You're not going to train me?
6:47Tee Higgins:I can train you all I want. But you ain't going to beat him.
6:50Daniel Cormier:Against Kamaru Usman, man. Man, I want to stand right there.
6:54Tee Higgins:He's going to start wrestling with you.
6:55Daniel Cormier:No, I don't want to wrestle. But he will.
6:57Shannon Sharpe:But guess what? He said he want Francis, too.
7:00Tee Higgins:Francis. You don't want Francis, man. I don't want Francis, man.
7:09Daniel Cormier:Listen, now that I think about it, right, with your extensive knowledge of UFC and where it's going, where it's evolving to, is there a fight that you haven't seen that you would love to see now?
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7:21Tee Higgins:That I have to see? That you have to see. There's a couple, right? There's a couple fights that I want to see bad. Honestly, I do want to see Pereira at heavyweight. I would like to see Tom Aspinall fight Jon Jones. I think after the last time when Tom Aspinall got poked.
7:34Shannon Sharpe:He didn't look good, though. And John's like, y 'all want me to fight that? You know how John heals, man.
7:42Tee Higgins:That's what he's thinking. No, he said it. Because the reality is Tom had this aura of invincibility about him. And then when he was fighting against Cyril Ghosn, Cyril was fighting much better than people thought. So John's like, yo, man, this dude can't fight me. But I think that's a good fight. I think Ilya Tepori and Islam Akachev would be the fight. That Ilya Tepori is something else, man. Nice.
8:06Shannon Sharpe:But you know, the Russians, they just trying to take you down. They're going to get you down. They're going to make you tired.
8:11Tee Higgins:He put it on Jack Della Madelina, didn't he? Yeah, he did. I couldn't believe how easy he handled him. He handled him real good. But Ilya Tepori and Islam, because that Ilya fight, man. That's the fight. That's the fight.
8:22Shannon Sharpe:Because Ilya said, Patty, you messed up the biggest pain of your life losing to a 38-year-old.
8:29Tee Higgins:Ilya be knocking dudes out, too. Yeah. Ilya be knocking them out, man.
8:33Shannon Sharpe:But do you think that'll be a better fight because Ilya's not looking to take it to the mat? And Patty definitely was not looking to take it to the mat, so everybody's just looking to throw Holloway. Is there going to be a situation where they come to the center ring like Gaethje and Holloway and just throw Leather? Let's go.
8:46Tee Higgins:Justin Gaethje is my friend. I'm going to tell him don't do that with Ilya Tepore, man. You can't do that with him.
8:52Daniel Cormier:Yeah.
8:52Tee Higgins:He hit so hard. When him and Charles Oliveira were fighting, by the time Charles Oliveira hit the ground, he was already sleeping, man. Damn. Ilya hit him two to three times on the way down. So, like, before he even hit the ground, Ilya hit him with the right hand. By the time Charles is, like, knocked out and falling backwards, Ilya done hit him with an uppercut. He hit him with another right hand. And then some guys, some guys actually, you fall down, they do like that. The referee, like, hey, man, it's over. Ilya jump on you. He hit you with a couple. And he don't care. Let me tell you something, man.
9:27Tee Higgins:When I hit Stipe and he went down. Yeah. I couldn't hit him again fast enough. I don't know how these dudes got the discipline to not hit him. Because in your mind, you're crazy.
9:39Shannon Sharpe:You want to make sure he don't get back up.
9:43Tee Higgins:Shannon, when that man, when you fighting another man and he fall, all you want to do is jump on him. Right, right, right. I jump on him and hit him. You hit him? I hit him three times. Damn. By the time the referee got on back, his head done. When his head hit the meds.
9:59Shannon Sharpe:I said, oh, he done. At his absolute best, at his absolute best, is there anybody in UFC history was a better fighter than Jon Jones?
10:13Tee Higgins:No. No. Not even close. Not St. Pierre. No.
10:16Shannon Sharpe:Not Anderson.
10:17Tee Higgins:The truth is.
10:17Shannon Sharpe:Not Demetrius.
10:18Tee Higgins:Hey, let me tell you something. People like to say, you be hating on Jon Jones, man. He can beat you. I said, listen, man, and I told you this whenever I did your podcast. You did. You did. I was so good when he beat me that second time that if he beat me that time, I don't think nobody could beat him. He was so, plus he tall, he got long arms. 84 inches. Yep. He got good knees.
10:42Shannon Sharpe:Elbows.
10:43Tee Higgins:We did a, him and I did that thing together. And we were talking about boxing. And he was like, if we boxed, it would be much harder fight. Right. He goes, because I kick Daniel a lot. And I need Daniel a lot. Right. And I think that is why or a thing that people underestimate about him. I don't think in terms of skills, maybe Khabib was as good, but Conor McGregor was real good whenever he was, like, on his game. Yeah, right. Not messing up.
11:10Shannon Sharpe:Will he ever fight again, you think? Conor? Yeah. Tell him what you told me on the thing. When somebody make$200,$300 million. He made all that money. It's hard to get up. It's hard to get up.
11:21Tee Higgins:Yeah. You remember what Marvin Hagler said way back in the day? Right. He said, man, you're sleeping on silk sheets. You got to get up and run six, seven miles every morning. Here's the thing about Conor, though. I always want to ask somebody, like, from not within the UFC, like, do y 'all think y 'all going to watch him? Because you have seen athletes. Yes. So many. Now, obviously, Conor has started to live the gimmick a little bit. Right. Right? He lives like Ric Flair. Said he was living the gimmick. Yes. Conor's living the gimmick a little bit. Do y 'all think Conor going to fight again? Do you think he can pull himself away from all that lifestyle?
11:51Tee Higgins:No. The yachts, the party, and all that stuff and get in camp?
11:54Daniel Cormier:DC, he's still a draw. He's a draw. He's still a draw. He's a massive draw. He can fill out any arena, wherever he goes.
12:01Shannon Sharpe:But he hasn't looked good in a bank. When's the last time he looked good? Although, no, Carbosarone.
12:06Tee Higgins:When he showed him.
12:08Daniel Cormier:DC, even though he hasn't looked good, he's still a draw. He's a draw. People are still going to tune in to watch. But let me ask you this, though. When he wins and loses.
12:14Tee Higgins:Let me ask you this, though. He's selling so many pay... He said it the other day. He goes, my business is pay-per-view. Because when Khabib, he sold three and a half million pay-per-view. Right. Do you... Listen, John, I was on a pay-per-view, me and Brock Lesnar. We sold$1.2 million by. Yeah. I know what that check looks like. Him and Khabib did three times that in terms of just pay-per-view. Right. What's the number that you can get Conor McGregor in the cage? Right. What you got to pay him now that he cannot sell pay-per-view to get him to fight?
12:42Shannon Sharpe:Because he's already got$300 million,$400 million in the bank account.
12:46Tee Higgins:He sold that liquor? Yeah. But do you think he can get in the camp? Because you're right. He is a draw. Y 'all, I just told y 'all at the start of this. We had one of the biggest fights that we ever had in UFC history. Conor Fights is going to double that.
12:59Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. No. I don't think you can get it back in the fight. You don't think he back? No. Why? Because he got that much money in the train, like you'd have to train to be able to do it. But he's got certain fights that you would give him.
13:09Daniel Cormier:Didn't Tyson Fury say, I'm retiring? Tyson Fury retired three times. Three times. What made me come out of retirement, D.C.?
13:15Tee Higgins:I don't know why Tyson Fury keep fighting.
13:17Shannon Sharpe:Money. But UFC is different than boxing. and boxing, I ain't got to worry about nothing but these. In the UFC, I got to worry about these, these, this, guillotine choke, rear-necked choke, triangle choke, arm bar. You're right. I got too many things to worry about these things. You're right. And when you've made that kind of money, you and I, we talk about it all the time, the Peyton Manning and the Tom Brady's and the guy that's made hundreds of millions of dollars to steal, but all they're doing is throwing the football. Ain't nobody needed it. Just imagine if they didn't have no offensive line, and now you got to come out there and throw the ball.
13:52Tee Higgins:Yep, yep, yep, yep. Nobody protected. Yes! When you go into the octagon, like I always say, hey, they say, man, are you nervous about this TV? I'm like, bro, I fought in front of millions of people in my underwear. You got some shorts on and nothing else with gloves, right? Nothing makes me nervous anymore. But to do that as a very, very rich man and get hit and get kneed and elbowed, what if you get cut? You start going, God, I don't really need to do this no more, man. Right, right.
14:24Shannon Sharpe:And as you get older, it gets harder to train. You don't recover as quick. You're like, you can just pop out of bed when you're in your 20s. You're like, oh, let's go do it again. I'm not sore. You start getting to your late 30s. Yeah. Nah, I take the day off. And, again, he hasn't fought in like four and a half years
14:44Tee Higgins:because he broke his leg last time. Yes.
14:46Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, he did. He broke his leg. And you know when you take that kind of layoff and when Muhammad Ali basically missed three years, and that was because of the Vietnam War, he was never the same.
14:58Tee Higgins:He was never the same guy. He was never the same. And he was in his prime and he was still young when he came back. He was still young when he came back.
15:04Shannon Sharpe:But he was never the same. There's nothing like fighting when you fight. Nope. You got to fight. There's nothing like, oh, we talk about this, oh, training, oh, off-season conditioning. You get in shape by playing football. Yeah. You become a better fighter by fighting. Yeah. All that spark. And then you took time off. And he's not a – Conor's not a guy, oh, he taking time off. He's in the gym every day. No, he's not. He's on a yacht with his shirt off.
15:30Tee Higgins:Yep.
15:31Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, he is. With 30 bandies on the – Yeah, he is.
15:33Tee Higgins:That's the truth.
15:34Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. That's the truth. That's the absolute truth, man. This game, we know I know you love football. Yep. Who you got? You got the Patriots or the Seahawks? Seahawks. What did you like about the Seahawks?
15:45Tee Higgins:Defense. I knew it. I knew it. A.B. fans. Yeah. Man, I tell you, man, A.B. fans. Hey, let me tell you something. That's a damn shame what they be doing in the 49ers, huh? Man. Two times back to back. Hey, man, we – I was at a wrestling tournament. Yeah. We in Los Angeles. We get done. We go watch the game. I got some of the – because I live in the Bay. Yeah. Right. They love – they're faithful to the Bay. They put that on their shirts. I say, man, that's cute, man. That's real cute, faithful to the Bay. They say, we going to win tonight. They said because Coach is the type of guy, Shanahan the type of guy, that in that last game of the season, he don't show that much.
16:22Tee Higgins:He held some stuff back. No, he didn't. We want to give him everything because it's easier if we don't get home field advantage. We still can go get him in Seattle. Right. I said, man, y 'all tripping if you believe that. Yeah. Man, they went up there to Lumen Field. Seattle done put it on them bad. They did. It was bad. Oh, yeah. And I'm watching that. And I'm watching that. and then I watched New England and Denver. Now, the game was a good game. Right. But you're struggling to put up points against Denver. How are you going to put points up against Seattle? I'm sorry, man. I ain't trying to disrespect Denver.
16:56Shannon Sharpe:I promise you. No, it's okay. We needed our quarterback.
16:58Tee Higgins:Y 'all needed y 'all quarterback. The fact that y 'all played that good without the quarterback is the defense. Yeah, defense would be good. But, boy.
17:05Shannon Sharpe:I heard you talk about the fight that was just in Australia, Boco. Yep, yep. Are you surprised that he's still fighting at that level at that age? Yes, dude.
17:15Tee Higgins:They keep talking about retirement, man. And then he just, Diego Lopez is dangerous. Yes. He beat him worse than he did the first time. Yeah. He did. He's so smart, dude. Hey, I swear to God, have you met him? Have you guys met him? No, I haven't met him, no. Man, he's so small. He's so short. He might be 5 '6". He's smaller than Mighty Mouse? No, no.
17:42Shannon Sharpe:How was Mighty Mouse that good? He's the best, bro. How much Mighty Mouse weight?
17:48Tee Higgins:He fought at 125. But guess what, Dushan?
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20:22Tee Higgins:He was the best. He one time was behind a dude. He got the dude with his hands locked behind him. Demetrius Johnson threw the guy in the air. Like he threw him up in the air. He releases him. When the guy starts falling, because gravity takes hold, he puts him in the arm bar. He called it, and then he said, I call that the mousetrap.
20:44Tee Higgins:He said, I call that the mousetrap. I said, man, did you make that up? He said, I made that up. He threw him in the air. By the time the dude done hit the ground, Demetrius got him in the arm bar, he tapped him. He was good, man.
20:57Shannon Sharpe:That brother was good. Are you surprised? because I remember, and people don't remember, they used to have, the way they used to fight, they didn't have weight classes. And you fought and you kept fighting, and you might fight three, four times in a night, and the last man standing won.
21:13Tee Higgins:Yep, yep, yep.
21:14Shannon Sharpe:When they had Horace Gracie. Horace Gracie, yep. Yeah, they had Ken Shamrock. Yep, yep. They had the big heavy hitter, Dan to be Severin. Yep, yep, yep. And you've been watching this, huh? The first two fights were in Denver. I saw them. Yeah. And so I was like, I don't know if that's fair. This little ass, because I remember when Horace Gracie came out there, I was like, this man, this big old dude by the 10, this little dude. Submissions. Man, did he got on? I said, why he laying down? He better get this little ass up. I'm looking at him. I was like, he better get off of that. They make him.
21:46Shannon Sharpe:And I don't, but he did something. The next thing you know, the dude was like. Tap. Yeah. Did you think UFC would ever get to what it got? No. Because I asked Dana. Dana's like, no. Dana said we just bought UFC logo and some gear for$2 million. $2 million.
22:03Tee Higgins:And now it's worth, what,$7,$8 billion? $7,$8 billion. But that's the thing, right? Credit to the Fertitta brothers, to Dana, for having the vision of what this thing could have been. Because at its core, right, we all love fighting. Yes. Right? If you're on the football field, if you're on the basketball court, if you're on a playground anywhere, the moment people start fighting, what do we all do? circle around and see. Go towards and watch.
22:28Daniel Cormier:Right?
22:29Tee Higgins:So having the vision to recognize that fighting is something that everybody wants to enjoy. And it's universal.
22:35Shannon Sharpe:It's universal. Yeah.
22:36Tee Higgins:Everybody thinks they can fight. Yeah. So let's figure out a way to make people tap into it. And that's exactly what they did. It's, dude, this sport, I was a world champion for five years. Yes, sir. I am more recognizable today Yes. because I talk about the UFC than I was even when I was playing the game. Right. It's crazy.
22:57Shannon Sharpe:And I think the thing is, what they did is that everybody thinks their discipline is the best. So we're going to see what a karate guy can do against a jiu-jitsu guy, what he can do against a judo guy, a worse thing he can do against a sambo guy. Especially at the start, right? Especially at the start. That's what it was about.
23:10Tee Higgins:But today, I think that question has been answered. It's the wrestler. It's the wrestler. It's the wrestler. He better than the jiu-jitsu? The wrestler's the guy. Because the wrestler determines where the fight takes place. Yes. If you got the jiu-jitsu guy, you don't let him take you down. You beat him in the stand-up. You got the stand-up guy, you take him down, and you beat him on the ground. It's the wrestler.
23:28Daniel Cormier:The wrestler's the guy. That's what makes me so special. That's what makes me so special. Because I'm a wrestler. I'm a two-time state championship champion.
23:38Shannon Sharpe:Who do you talk about? I don't wrestle. In what, 115 pounds? No, 205 in high school. Boy, the 205 would have to pull your ass off. He's in. He's in. You're like mighty mighty mighty through that guy up in there.
23:47Daniel Cormier:Two-time state champion in wrestling. And then I can stand up and go with the best of them.
23:53Tee Higgins:You're from Florida, aren't you? Y 'all from Liberty City. They don't do those wrestling. But you a two-time state champion? Yeah. I got some friends in Florida, man. I'm going to fact check that. Yeah, fact check it.
24:02Shannon Sharpe:Tell the chat to fact check it. I'm thinking more like the Midwest is where the wrestlers are.
24:07Tee Higgins:Yeah, yeah, Midwest. Ohio, stuff like that.
24:09Shannon Sharpe:Oklahoma State.
24:10Tee Higgins:Iowa. Iowa, Oklahoma. I went to Oklahoma State. Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania, yeah. They got the best high school wrestling in the country. Do they? Yeah, they be beating us, man. I coached in California, man. We be the Pennsylvania kids beginning.
24:22Shannon Sharpe:You see, California, I got to stick to football and track and field running. Them country boys, when the weather gets cold, you go inside.
24:30Tee Higgins:You go inside for a wrestling. Yep, you go inside for a wrestling.
24:33Shannon Sharpe:And so when you get to change your season, like Iowa and stuff like that, where it gets cold and those guys, see, the weather's warm, so you can run all, you know, track and field, you can train all around. Football, you can train all around. That's why the warm weather states do better. In football. Football, track and field.
24:48Tee Higgins:Yep, basketball, baseball. Yep, that's why. You going to the game? I'm not. So my son has a wrestling tournament. Okay. And we're going to the East. We're going to Virginia. So I'm going to chase the weather for my son to wrestle, man.
25:02Shannon Sharpe:It's cold, too. I like it. Is that what he wants to do? He wants to be following dad's football? He likes football, man. He likes football.
25:07Tee Higgins:That dude is an A. He can play some football. He hit now. He can tackle now. He tackle? He's been wrestling his whole life. But you say he's a linebacker, right? He weigh 173 pounds. He in eighth grade. And he got to be almost as tall as me. Already? He mean to. I like it. He like to tackle.
25:20Shannon Sharpe:I like it. So what, you want him to do both? You want him to wrestle?
25:24Tee Higgins:I want him to do both. I think it's important to do both. I don't think that you should, I think that in most sports today, kids specialize. I agree. I think you've got to enjoy your life, man. Yeah, I like that. And it helps with other things. It helps with everything in life. It does, it does. Kids specialize in one sport.
25:40Daniel Cormier:Are you one of those parents that pushes and pushes and pushes and pushes? You've got to do this, you've got to do that. Or you just let him, whatever he decides to do, you okay with it? I'm supporting you.
25:49Tee Higgins:I haven't pushed him that much. I haven't pushed him that much, and I think I could have pushed him more. Right. Right? Because when you wrestle or you fight and your dad is me, it's kind of hard, right? Because I've heard kids going, I'll beat DC's son. And I'm like, I don't want them to, like, him and I believe. The comparison. Yeah, come on, man. Like, you didn't beat me, right? You beat my son. But that's his claim to fame. But that's his claim to fame. Right. So I kind of didn't push him all that much. Right. But now it's like I'm doing a little bit more, like, so he's in his gap year this year.
26:18Tee Higgins:Yes, sir. Where, like, so he's in eighth grade, but he's doing, like, it's almost like a gray shirt year where he takes another eighth grade year before he goes into high school. Right. So now he gets up in the morning, he lifts his weights. Right. Then he goes and he does pads. I got him doing boxing. Right. Then he goes to school, and then he might wrestle a little bit. Then he goes home and he sleeps.
26:39Daniel Cormier:Yeah.
26:39Tee Higgins:And this dude is gained probably 20 pounds because you grow when you sleep. Right. So during the day, this dude's sleeping. He's, like, so disciplined now. I'm so proud of that kid, man.
26:49Shannon Sharpe:He's doing a good job. How much bigger do you think he's going to get?
26:52Tee Higgins:I bet he'll be 210, 215 pounds when he's a senior. Maybe 220. I think he'll get big. 6 '1", 6 '2". I'm the shortest guy in my family. Okay. So probably 6 '1", 6 '2", 215, 220 when he graduates high school.
27:07Shannon Sharpe:You did play some football. Yep. Do you wish you had stuck with football?
27:12Tee Higgins:No. Let me tell you something, man. Let me tell you something. Were y 'all on good football teams in high school? We were decent. We were decent.
27:19Daniel Cormier:We were okay.
27:20Tee Higgins:So did you have people, you know, growing up in the South, right, everybody think they go on the NFL, man. Yeah, for sure. Everybody think they go on the NFL. So if a dude is like all-state honorable mention, he's like the greatest thing in the world. He don't want to take no responsibility. He don't want to lead. So I was on teams where we had like a couple good dudes, but they were like very like cancerous. Right. The only team that was good was the year I was a senior. You guys know the Cupid Shuffle? Yeah, of course. We went to high school together. That was one of my boys, right? So we were like the leaders of the team, and we were a good team.
27:56Tee Higgins:But before that, it was bad. So by the time I was done with football, I was like, man, I'm on the wrestling mat. And I done made the United States world team for 16-year-olds. So I'm traveling the world wrestling going, I know that if I do what I'm supposed to do, I'm winning state championships. I'm wrestling in world championships. But on the football field, I can't take all these guys with me. Right. So I was like, I'm always going to wrestle first. Okay. DC. You're the man, boy. Thank y 'all for having me. Y 'all the best, man. I appreciate y 'all. I love y 'all chemistry, boys. Appreciate you, DC.
28:31Shannon Sharpe:Daniel. DC Cormier, one of the great MMA mixed martial artists of all time. He can wrestle. He can fight standing up. But he's an unbelievable fighter. Appreciate you stopping by, D.C.
28:51We're waiting.
28:52Shannon Sharpe:No, go ahead. Right now, that was, I mean, nonstop. That was two full hours of complete guests, and we're not done. We have another hour left. But it's been some great guys stopping by and sharing their stories from the season. Everybody, I don't know if you guys have noticed, everybody that stopped by has picked the Seattle Seahawks to win this game. There are not a whole lot of people that's giving New England a whole lot of credit. But I think that's a, I personally think that's a mistake because I think New England is a very good football team and I don't think they're getting the credit they deserve.
29:24Shannon Sharpe:They'll be, but everybody, it doesn't matter whether it's Coach Belichick or Vrabel or whomever is there. You hear about the militaristic style, the structure in which the Patriots operate. And I believe there's only one way to do things, and that's the right way. And you have this system in place. Nobody is bigger than the system. Nobody is bigger than the team. And when you get that, you get everybody falling in line. There are no exceptions. You know what the standard is. You know what the expectations are of every individual that comes into this building. And so, therefore, you don't have any problem with that.
29:56Shannon Sharpe:So I'm very excited about all the guys that we've had come on and share their stories about what happened this season with their team and what could potentially happen in this Super Bowl. But it's been an unbelievable morning for us. Just getting started for me. I'm taping an episode of Club Shea Shea at 3 o 'clock, so I'm going to run back to the hotel, grab something to eat, lay down for a quick second, and then off to tape Club Shea Shea. And then I got my LaPortier party tonight starting at 8 o 'clock. And then tomorrow is the busy day for us because we're right back here at Nightcap Radio Row and the live show tomorrow night.
30:30Shannon Sharpe:So we got a busy, I do have a busy next, you know, 36 hours or so, but this is what you sign up for. This is why you do all this, because you really, really appreciate and love what you do. But, Chad, we want to thank you guys for joining us for Nightcap Radio Row. All the guests that come on, Kendrick Bourne, Daniel Cormier, Romeo Dobbs. We're supposed to have Ashton Gentile and Jordan Poirier. Kamari Laster came on, Jay Glazer came on, Tyquan Thornton came on, Fred Warner and Romeo Dobbs. So we've had a basically two hours steady stream of guys coming on, talking about their season, talking about what they need to do in order to make sure their team is in this situation next year.
31:16Shannon Sharpe:And some even like, you know what? Seattle, they're good at all three. They're good at every level on both sides of the football. They're a physical team. They get after the quarterback. They can run the football. They can throw it. We know what JSN, Raheem Shaheed, and Sam Donald. So everybody that we've picked. They're more tomorrow. Huh? Okay.
31:42Shannon Sharpe:They just expect Seattle to win this ballgame. And I felt that kind of way the last time I was in the situation, Seattle and the Patriots, when Seattle did what they did on the goal line. I still can't explain that. But here we are at Radio Row. It's great to see people. I've seen a lot of people walk by, throwing my hands up. So when you see me do this from time to time, there's somebody walking by. I recognize them. They recognize me. And it's basically, hey, how you doing? I'm busy right now. I'll catch you on my way out. But, again, thank you, Chad, for joining us. This is what makes it so special is that we do this, and you guys that have been supporting us from the very jump.
32:27Shannon Sharpe:And I cannot thank you enough. I'm trying to thank.
32:33Shannon Sharpe:Who's our, Ash, who we got coming up next? Okay. Our next guest is going to be the running back, the number six pick in the 2025 draft for the Las Vegas Raiders. He had 975 rush yards, five touchdowns, called for another 346 yards and five touchdowns. Ashton Gentry is going to be joining us shortly. He's wrapping up an interview across the hall, and he'll be joining us shortly. Ocho had to go to only a 75, 80-year-old person has a weaker bladder than Ocho, but he had to take off and go to the bathroom, but he'll be back shortly. So I'm holding it down in the meantime. Hopefully, guys, you got your tickets for Nightcap Live at the Earps Theater tomorrow night starting at 8 p.m.
33:21Shannon Sharpe:So if you're in the area, the meet and greet tickets are sold out, but there are a few general admission tickets left. So if you're in the area, if you're a Patriots fan, you're a Seattle fan, or if you're just a fan of NFL or you just want to pass the time and have a few laughs, got a great jam-packed show for you tomorrow night. Can't wait to get out and see the fans because you guys make it all worthwhile. So looking forward to seeing you guys, the meet and greet, looking forward to seeing a lot of people in the building tomorrow night. to have some fun. Like I said, we got a very, very jam-packed show for you tomorrow night and looking forward to seeing you guys in attendance.
33:58But in the meantime,
34:05Shannon Sharpe:oh, just in, we got another one. The Chicago Bulls are trading Kobe White, Mike Conley Jr. to the Charlotte Hornets for Colin Sexton and Usmane D 'Ang and three second-round picks. Kobe White to the Hornets. Mike Conley to the Hornets. Colin Sexton to the Bulls. Kobe White goes back to North Carolina. You know, remember, he was attending the University of North Carolina, so he's back in the home state where he went to college. Mike Conley came from Minnesota. Most people know him being a Memphis Grizzly. He was at Minnesota, but he knew that wasn't going to be his final stop, and they tried to accommodate him to get him somewhere where he'll still be able to play.
34:50Shannon Sharpe:But Chicago Bulls are trading Kobe Wright, Mike Conley Jr. to the Charlotte Hornets for Collin Sexton and Usman D 'Ang and three second-round picks.
35:01Chad Johnson:So this NBA trade is trying to steal some shine from the Super Bowl.
35:10Shannon Sharpe:Another trade. The Chicago Bulls are trading Kobe White, Mike Conley Jr. to Charlotte Hornets for Colin Sexton, Usman D 'Ang, and three second round picks. Kobe White to the Hornets, Mike Conley Jr. to the Hornets, and Colin Sexton to the Bulls. Colin Sexton had just gotten there because he was traded from Utah. Remember, he started his career at Cleveland, ended up going to Utah in the Donovan Mitchell trade, and now he's on the move again.
35:38Daniel Cormier:The NBA is having trades, but the trades that we're waiting for, it hasn't been enough of the big boys to steal the shine away from the Super Bowl.
35:49Shannon Sharpe:Well, there's not a trade that can happen that can steal the shine from the Super Bowl. I mean, you'd have had James Harden traded. And listen to Brian Wendhorst. He says that, you know, all the pieces are not coming together for the Giannis trade. So basically, you'd probably need, I mean, if you wanted to steal some shine from the Super Bowl.
36:06Daniel Cormier:It would have to be a Giannis or a Jotre.
36:07Shannon Sharpe:trade you know you're gonna have to probably get a steph curry trade you're gonna have to get a steph curry or lebron james trade right just to to to summons up something right and then
36:16Daniel Cormier:possibly steal so much you you mentioned harden but harden is is moved so many times him being traded like okay yeah he's just being traded again so we're that we're used to that buddy yannis or a jaw that'd be or lebron yes even though if we if he was the veto in trade clause you know behind closed doors and all of a sudden we see a move with him you know today that would be that would take much of the shine yeah away from i think the thing is is that with hard is
36:41Shannon Sharpe:that i don't know look um you know you hear the reports he wanted a two-year extension yes 40 plus million dollars a year and that's not kind of the direction that the clippers are wanting to go in they wanted to have they want to have cap space for 2027 right some of these guys are going to be available so we really don't know kind of the direction what's true or not true but all i know is that he was unhappy and look if you go back and study houston houston gave him everything that he wanted he wanted Dwight Howard they got him Dwight Howard then all of a sudden he didn't want Dwight Howard they got him Chris Paul then all of a sudden he didn't want Chris Paul they got him Russell Westbrook then all of a sudden he didn't want Russell Westbrook and you know what my time in Houston is up I want to go to Brooklyn he goes to Brooklyn he pairs with Kyrie and KD and then all of a sudden he wasn't happy there yeah he said you know what I want to go to the guy that draft that that's that brought me over to Houston Darryl Morey he's in Philly I want to go to Philly yes He wins to Philly, and then he goes to Philly, and he's playing with Joel Embiid.
37:38Shannon Sharpe:And we know Joel Embiid, his injury history. We'll talk about that another day and time.
37:44Daniel Cormier:James Harden is one of those, huh? Yeah, and James Harden. When things ain't going right, he going to move.
37:50Shannon Sharpe:Maybe he the one that's reason why it's not going right. You notice all the teams that he's been on that's not been going right? You think with a player his magnitude? As great as he is? If every room that you walk into and it smells, it might be you to do it. I'm just saying, I'm just saying, that might be you to do it. So with that being said, because think about it, Ocho, everywhere he's been, they've given him everything that he's wanted. Right, right. He had a guy with Joel Embiid that won the MVP. And he's like, well, you know, I don't really get to do my thing.
38:24Daniel Cormier:Well, you got the ball. The ball in your hands, yeah.
38:26Shannon Sharpe:You got the ball. Right. And look, I get it. I mean, he's like, look, I still got a little leverage, and I'm going to try to swing this hammer while I still have it.
38:34Daniel Cormier:Is this his last stop, you think?
38:36Shannon Sharpe:No. No, I don't. I don't think it's going to be his last stop.
38:43Daniel Cormier:That's going to be exciting for Cleveland, though. That's going to be exciting. I like it. I mean, normally you don't. Who's going to have the ball?
38:51Shannon Sharpe:Harden. Well, I think it's going to be him and Mitchell, because Donovan Mitchell works best with the ball in his hands.
38:56Daniel Cormier:See, that's the problem. So you got two of the same players almost. You got two scorers. You got two players that need the ball in their hands to be able to facilitate. Can Donovan Mitchell play off the ball? Can James Harden play? I don't even see James Harden playing off the ball.
39:08Shannon Sharpe:They can, but they're most effective with the ball in their hands. Yeah. Can't. No. There's no such thing as can't at that level of player, but they're most effective with the ball in their hands. And you don't normally see guys that say, you know what, I want to go to Cleveland. Normally, most people are trying to get out of Cleveland. Nobody's trying to go into Cleveland.
39:30Daniel Cormier:You think Brother Garland is happy with his move to L.A.?
39:36Daniel Cormier:Darius, no? Yes?
39:40Shannon Sharpe:Probably not. I don't think in either situation they were close to winning a championship. It's still L.A., though. Yeah, L.A., them highest taxes.
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41:52Shannon Sharpe:everything that comes along with being in LA yeah but now I look um he's in a very similar situation I mean look Kawhi doesn't have the ball in his hands nearly as much as Donovan does but it's still Kawhi's team yes I mean Kawhi's playing unbelievable he's having a career high shooting almost 50 percent from the floor he's shooting 40 percent from the three 90 percent from the free throw line so he's having an unbelievable season after missing a couple of game to start the season. He's playing extremely well. As he said, he's healthy. And when he's healthy, he's one of the best players in the NBA.
42:25Shannon Sharpe:Now he's not the two-way player that he once was. Injuries have robbed him of that. But as an offensive player, his mid-range game, his ability to put the ball on the floor and still get to his spot and do what he needs to do, he's still an exceptional player. It's just the injuries, you know. For some reason, he's not been able to shake that injury bug. But so far this year, he's been extremely well.
42:48Daniel Cormier:Let me text Pat Riley and see how far along we are.
42:53Shannon Sharpe:I don't know how far along you guys are.
42:56Daniel Cormier:I know. What time is the deadline? It's tomorrow. No, I thought it was the 5th. Oh, the 5th. Okay.
43:03Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. It's 4 Eastern tomorrow. Okay.
43:05Daniel Cormier:Remember what I said on this show many times when we talked about basketball? I told you it was either Giannis or Owen Jar. Hell, it might be in both of them. You never know.
43:13Shannon Sharpe:Well, you saw Memphis, they're in complete rebuild. They traded Desmond Bain in the offseason. They just traded Jaron Jackson III to Utah. And so could there be a situation where they go ahead and move Ja also? Yeah. Absolutely. Oh, yeah. But I just think the thing is, I mean, they're in complete rebuild. Yeah. They've like, look, they've torn this thing down. Yeah. That's basically what they've done. Yep. And they've got a lot of draft compensation coming in the years to come. I think they got three or four first-round picks for Bain from Orlando. I think they picked up a couple of first-round picks and a couple of pick swaps for Jaron Jackson.
43:51Shannon Sharpe:And obviously, if you trade John, you're going to get more first-round picks. Oh, yeah. So they are in complete rebuild. This is going to be a very, very different team. If not by the trade deadline, there's a great chance it'll be a very different team in the offseason. we're just waiting on Aston Genty to finish up his other uh his interview and he's gonna stop by Aston Genty um uh I was talking before you didn't when you're in the bathroom which I was talking everybody has come and said Seattle not one yeah and I think that might be a mistake Ocho you think
44:24Daniel Cormier:so New England's better than people think I think listen we know how good they are you know I just saw Drake Mato for the freddie six yards in a win yeah in a snowstorm I saw that but I think people are picking Seattle, which I did as well. I love the Patriots. I love what they're doing. I love what Drake May has done. I love what Mike Brable has done culturally and keeping that Patriot way system and the way they conduct business alive. But I'm only leaning towards the Seahawks because of that defense. Yes, I know Christian Gonzalez is good. I know Carlton Davis has been doing his thing. Collectively as a whole, at all three levels, the Seahawks are the better team defensively.
44:59Daniel Cormier:Yes. That's the only reason I'm leaning towards them. and then, hell, we see what Sam Donner are we going to get. Can we get a Sam Donner? If he takes care of the football, they win.
45:09Shannon Sharpe:If he turns the ball over, they lose it. Exactly. I mean, if you go back and study the playoffs over the history, and especially this year, teams that have turned the football over, they went home. The Broncos went home. The Houston Texans went home. You are going home if you turn the ball over. It's really not that complicated, and let's not make more of it what it needs to be, but I do think it's going to be an exceptional ball game, and that's what I'm expecting to happen on Sunday. But we'll see. We'll see who handles the nerves the best. None of these players, none of these teams have been to the Super Bowl.
45:41Shannon Sharpe:So it's not somebody like a Brable. Brable has been to the Super Bowl a number of times. Multiple times, yeah. But that's as a player. Now he can be like, okay, guys, look, we know why we're here. We're here to win a football game. All that other stuff is unimportant. Let's stay focused. Let's keep the main thing the main thing. Let's make sure we practice like we're supposed to, meet like we're supposed to, be where we're supposed to, and then come Sunday we let it all hang on. Oh, yeah. But I'm excited. I think it's going to be a very interesting ball game. Like I said, I don't think a whole lot of people are giving the Patriots credit because, like you said, he threw for 86 yards.
46:17Shannon Sharpe:They only scored 10 points. But you know what? I got to do what I got to do to win. Yeah. You know, look at the Rams scored 27 points and lost. I'd rather score 10 and win, 27 and lose. They lose, yeah. And so we'll see. We'll see who handles the nerves the best. We'll see when they get the momentum how much separation can they put between them and the other team. And so we'll see how this thing plays out. But we had some very interesting guests. I mean, we were nonstop with guests for two hours. Oh, yeah. It's kind of slowed a little bit. We got some great guests lined up for tomorrow.
46:54Daniel Cormier:Ooh, I can't wait till tomorrow.
46:57Shannon Sharpe:We're supposed to have a couple of your homeboys supposed to be coming through. Tomorrow? Today.
47:03Daniel Cormier:They tied up, huh?
47:05Shannon Sharpe:Right now, we're supposed to have T and Chase supposed to be coming through later today.
47:11Daniel Cormier:For real? Mm-hmm. Wait, hold on. Later today? What time?
47:16Shannon Sharpe:Well, they're supposed to come, you know, before we get off there at 1. At 1? Okay. They in the building?
47:21Daniel Cormier:You know, I can get them to get up.
47:24Shannon Sharpe:I don't know. But that was on our itinerary. I don't know where they are currently. I don't know if they have prior engagements or they were just coming over here. This is the only engagement. But you know how this thing works. You're here sponsored, and you come by, and you try to pitch their products. Fred Warner was here with Experian. And guys that do it, Frito-Lay, or they do Coca-Cola. They deal with all these other things, and they come tell us about what they're doing.
47:52Daniel Cormier:Is that AG? Where? Right there. No.
47:58Shannon Sharpe:No, that ain't A.G. That's a... Huh? Okay. No, that was a Clarence Hill Jr. Oh, Dallas. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's who that was.
48:13Shannon Sharpe:Okay, okay. They here? Yep.
48:17Daniel Cormier:Where? They're coming. They're coming.
48:18Shannon Sharpe:They're coming on their way over here now.
48:20Daniel Cormier:Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, chat. We got the two best receivers in the NFL. They coming, and I'm excited. I'm excited. What do I ask Jamar and T when they get here? Huh? Just, I got my chat right here in front of me. So you can ask me, what do I ask Jamar and T that I haven't already said, that I haven't already asked? What would you like to ask? I'm just curious. I'm so excited. And I can get an autograph. I can get a picture. Oh, look at Poyer.
48:54Shannon Sharpe:Yep, joining us now is Bill Safety. He started his career with the Philadelphia Eagles in 20... What's up, bro? How you doing, babe? What's up, boy? He started his career in 2013 with the Philadelphia Eagles, and then he spent 2013 to 2016 with the Cleveland Browns. And then he goes to the Buffalo Bills from 2017 to 2023, and he spends one year in Miami, and now he's back with the Buffalo Bills, signed late August, activated week six.
49:23Shannon Sharpe:You're back home. Buffalo, I mean, I think, you know, you've been a lot of stops, but I think you would consider Buffalo your home. Absolutely. As far as team-wise. That game in Denver, was that as painful of a loss that you've been a part of?
49:38Chad Johnson:It was up there.
49:40Shannon Sharpe:Because the Kansas City losses, I'm sure some of those.
49:42Chad Johnson:For sure. It was up there. You know, I was hurt that game, so I wasn't able to be out there with the boys. So even more harder to watch as part of, obviously, the 13 seconds. I had some tough losses in the previous years, but, yeah, that was up there. You know, game comes down to what it came down to. Everybody is going to have their opinion on this, that, or the other. You know, one play here or there, you know, it is what it is. And, you know, we got to take that one on the chin, you know.
50:12Daniel Cormier:Now that we're in the offseason, how's the body feeling? How are you holding up? What's next?
50:16Chad Johnson:Yeah, man. This was the first year I felt healthy in a long time. I took my hamstring. I'm 34. Still doing it at 34, bro. I love it. You know what I mean? Still doing it at 34, bro, which is, it was an incredible season. I came and signed on the practice squad. I ended up, you know, being on, starting by week four, week five. You know, love the boys out there. Body felt great. It was the healthiest that I've felt in a long time. You know, as I transitioned to, you know, whatever's next, you know, I am a free agent right now, so Buffalo is home. Do you want to continue to play? I would be open to continuing to play, really mostly in Buffalo because I love.
50:52Chad Johnson:Is that where your home is? That's not where home home is, but, you know, I spent most of my career out there. I'm on the backside of my career, man.
50:58Daniel Cormier:There's no such thing as backside. There's no such thing as backside. That is something that they put in our heads to make it seem like it's when it's time for us to move up.
51:06Chad Johnson:100%.
51:06Daniel Cormier:You know, speaking of, you know, we could always use a safety down in the 5-1-3 just in case. I'm putting that out there right now just in case, you know.
51:14Chad Johnson:For sure. I could talk to Mike, you know. No, I'm for sure open to keep playing, man. I can still play at a high level. And, again, whatever happens is going to happen. The year before in Miami, super tough. You know, I signed there after I got cut from Buffalo because I wanted to get my get back on the Bills. Right, right. I just ended up getting smacked by them twice. The whole season getting smacked around. You know, the idea of coming back this year was to finish my career the right way, go back to Buffalo. But, you know, I'm open to keep playing. I can still play the game at a high level.
51:43Chad Johnson:I love playing this game. And I play the game because I love the game. I love playing. I love competing. I love being out there with my boys. But, you know, again, as I transition, I'm more transitioning to mental health, mental awareness. And I think a lot of us, as we transition, we have this identity crisis, I want to say. Not a crisis, but just, you know, our whole lives we've been playing this game. And that's been our identity. As we transition, we lose that. And so finding ways to understand who you are outside of football. So we do a lot of events, holistic events, breathworks. We're going on tour in May.
52:21Chad Johnson:In May with artists, we're blending mindfulness, dance, breathwork, medicine, all together, and music all together. Bringing 300 people together and breathing deep, man. So excited about the transition. Whatever's next, whatever's next, man. I look up to you guys all the time just seeing you guys doing your thing, man. And that's motivation in itself. I know I have a voice. I know I see the game the way that I see the game. I know I can talk about the game, but we'll see what happens, man. I'm just enjoying life.
52:51Shannon Sharpe:You said something very interesting. You said, you know, this thing, this football, because for the better part of your life, everything has been structured. You're going to be here at this time. You're going to be here at that time. You're going to be this, this, and this. And all of a sudden you leave the game of football and there is no more structure because now I don't have meetings at 10 o 'clock in the morning. I don't have practice at this time, and I don't have a game, and I don't have this, and I don't have that. So as you start to make that transition, because like you said, I got less time in the league than I previously had.
53:20Shannon Sharpe:So what's been that transition like for you? How have you started to put those pieces in place to make sure? Because football is what I did. It's not who I am. Yeah, and that's a great question because I struggled with that for a long time.
53:35Chad Johnson:You know, I struggled with alcohol for a long time, especially early on in my career, probably six years of my career. I've been sober for five years now. Progress. Progress. And, you know, as I've as I've transitioned into sobriety and I've learned a lot more about this world that we're in about myself, I've learned, you know, I'm more than a football player. Right. Like football is what I do and it's what I love. I love playing a game. Right. But it's not who I am. And so understanding I think that transition is understanding your purpose or having a purpose. Right. Like, what is your purpose for being here on this planet?
54:09Chad Johnson:Like, why did God bring you here? And for me, I just believe it's to be a light, man, to be a light in this world, to shine. And I don't pretend to sit here and know everything about everything, but I know enough about enough to understand, like, you know, there's more to this than what we see on our daily day basis, you know. When we go inward, when we dive within, when we look within, when we look within ourselves, we can understand ourselves and understand and be aware of the daily decisions that we make and those decisions and the consequences that come from those decisions. It's an awareness, right?
54:41Chad Johnson:It's an awareness. It's the same thing like, what is pressure, right? Like when forth and forth got to have it, what is pressure? Pressure, you're in a situation and pressure is you have expectations that the situation should be this. and so you're thinking you're thinking outside of the now moment right like the moment is now there is no such thing as pressure because it's only now and so when you have and you can collect when you can you know we train our bodies all year all year long right you train our to go out there and perform on sunday to be at our best our brain is a muscle too and so i i believe that especially as younger athletes we we we have the ability to train our brain to to go within and to learn about pressure learn about why you feel the way you feel in certain situations your emotions learn how to control your emotions to have awareness of your emotions you know why does this piss me off why does this you know why does this tick me off why does she always come in with bad attitude and you know you can then change shift your shift your energy right and put more authenticity and more love into the world and you see how the world of the universe starts to work We could sit here all day and talk about the laws of the universe and all the spirituality stuff.
55:50Chad Johnson:But I say all that to say we are all more than athletes. We are all more, and we are all one. We are all connected beyond what you can even fathom, and I think it's all important for us to continue to share our life, just like you guys are doing. Sharing your life, being who you are, and not being afraid of that. And that's how it's our transition. That's why I want to continue to keep it on.
56:11Shannon Sharpe:You understand this league is a quarterback-driven league, and you play with one of the better quarterbacks. But the expectations are the greater the player, the more expectations are placed. Be it fair or unfairly, that is just the way it is. Because we know that this is why they make the most money. This is why they get the most endorsements. That's why their face are plastered all over everything. Do you think Josh in this situation, Does he understand the magnitude and the gravity of what's in store and what's been placed on him?
56:43Chad Johnson:Absolutely. I mean, he's the face of the franchise. He's the face of the NFL. But he's still Josh. He's still in the building, being himself. He understands his aura, right? He understands who he is. And it's the best quarterback in the league, in my opinion. And he'll be the best quarterback in the league until he's done playing, in my opinion. And I always love riding with Josh. And unfortunately, we haven't been able to get it done in those big games. But he's always somebody that's going to come back and keep fighting and keep throwing and keep running people over, keep hurling people. And so he does understand the weight of the world is on his shoulders.
57:24Chad Johnson:But I think he rises to that in the moments. He played hurt the last three games of the season. He plays through. I mean, you see it in his interviews. They ask him, hey, do you hurt this in the game? He's like, no, I'm good. Like, what? Right. Everybody saw you have a broken game. Right, right, right. Everybody saw you hurt your hand and you twisted your knee or whatever. But, like, that's who he is, right? He's a competitor. And I go to war with him 100 out of 100 days. Most definitely. Because I see it. Yeah. Like, in his eyes before the game. And, yeah, you fall short. It happens. But how are you going to respond?
57:54Chad Johnson:And I know he's going to respond the right way. I like it. Appreciate it. Join me. I appreciate y 'all.
58:00Shannon Sharpe:Buffalo Bill. Thank you, man. Appreciate that. All the best. Stay healthy, man.
58:04Daniel Cormier:We got to get back on FIFA, man. Man, what's up? We used to be. Come on.
58:08Chad Johnson:Thank you, bro. We did everything, man. That's all. I appreciate you.
58:12Shannon Sharpe:I appreciate you. I appreciate you. We're good, man. Yes, sir. We're good. Come on in here. That was bad. We got the guys coming in here. We got Jamar.
58:18Daniel Cormier:We got like an hour. Good. Come on, man. We're good. Good.
58:24Shannon Sharpe:What's up, baby? You good? Chilling. We're like an hour, man. What's up, man? What's up, bro? You good? You good? You good, man? Right. What's up, man? I get to say, you know, I got tired of looking young. I want to look a little older. Look my age. He can't grow. He can't grow. That thing won't. That thing won't. It won't. It won't lock in.
58:46Daniel Cormier:Rob, what's up, Rob? I fucking love you.
58:50Shannon Sharpe:Rob. Huh? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Bet I know you do the long, long time. What's up, Rob? You good? You good? Good to see you, bro. All right, joining us now, two of the best receivers in the NFL? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
59:04Daniel Cormier:Joining us right now, the best receiver in the NFL. Okay. 1A, 1B. The greatest receivers in the NFL. Matter of fact, matter of fact, Jamar Chase, T. Higgins, they need no introduction,
59:18Shannon Sharpe:but I'm going to introduce them anyway. Jamar had 125 catches, 1 ,412 yards, 8 touchdowns. T. had 59 catches, 846, and 11 touchdowns, but unfortunately, that was not enough because Joe got hurt and they ended up going 6th and 11th, 3rd in the AFC. I'm going to start with you, Chase. Bro, you know, you've been in this situation before. Not here, but you've been in the Super Bowl. You know what it takes. And once you get that taste in your mouth, it's kind of like a dog once he bites somebody. You got to be very, very careful because he wants to continuously bite. Once you got that feeling, what is it going to take for you for this to be a normal occurrence where you guys compete, really compete for a championship year after year?
1:00:03Chad Johnson:Yeah, everybody knows the turn of defense will be a championship, and we've got to start that first. First things first, we've got to work on that, and then we can worry about the offensive side. We've got the weapons for that. We've been having the weapons, but by far, everybody knows we've got to get that defense right to get back here.
1:00:16Daniel Cormier:T, I've got a question. Put your GM hat on. You're the GM. You're Mike Brown. You're Katie. You're Duke. Any of those people that are in positions of power that can make the changes necessary to make sure we get the opportunities to always be in contention, not the AFC North. I'm talking about throughout the entire league and being in the postseason. What changes do you think need to be made? Keep it PC, but just if you were in that position, what do you think needs to happen?
1:00:42Chad Johnson:I feel like, to me, I would go and get, you know, somebody on the interior D-line. Yes. Max Crosby. Jeffrey Simmons. Look, we both said that earlier. I said Max Crosby. I said Max Crosby. He said Jeffrey Simmons. See? Yep.
1:00:56Shannon Sharpe:That's$2 we're going to need for sure. I like it. For sure. You have to, like you said. Because at some point in time, look, you won the Triple Crown last year. And guess what? Missed the playoffs. I had another 125-catch, 1 ,400-catch season. Missed the playoffs. You're in the Pro Bowl. Missed the playoffs. At some point in time, I love these individual stats, but I play a team sport. If this was tennis, if this was golf, I'm good. I'm Gucci. But we play team sports, and I want to have team success.
1:01:24Chad Johnson:Yeah, that's the main thing. like, yeah, all the individual success, that's cool. You know what I mean? But we play the game to make it to the Super Bowl at the end of the day. So if we're not doing that, then we're not doing nothing for the organization.
1:01:36Daniel Cormier:One of the other problems that we've always had as a team, for one, being able to compete week in and week out, is not the elephant in the room because it's happened many times in his short career. How do we keep Brother 9 healthy? How do we keep him healthy for a full season so we can have that consistency? There's a line. It's one thing. What? Offensive line. Excuse me. Come on. How do we keep our brother upright? How do we keep him healthy for a full season so we can have those chances to be talking about competing in the Super Bowl?
1:02:06Chad Johnson:Honestly, I mean, like he said, offensive line, but I don't think we need a new offensive line. I'm going to be honest. They did a good job. Yes. And it shows. Stats could prove it. You know what I'm saying? So I feel like the biggest thing, that's more of an off-the-field thing. I'm not saying he don't take care of his body, that dude come in him to play. Maybe he got to do more with himself. You know what I'm saying? So that could be a him thing. Maybe the eating. You know what I'm saying? So it's a lot of different ways you can look at that on the opinion side. But, you know, at the end of the day, it's really got to be a him thing.
1:02:33Shannon Sharpe:He been listening to Ocho talking about eating McDonald's? No, he doesn't.
1:02:35Daniel Cormier:He doesn't listen to me.
1:02:36Chad Johnson:He don't eat McDonald's.
1:02:38Daniel Cormier:See?
1:02:38Chad Johnson:He don't. I'm the only one that eat McDonald's in the locker room. I ask him that shit at my locker every morning. See what I'm talking about? Everybody ask me. You want something? You want something? I take a McGritter.
1:02:52Daniel Cormier:You heard what he eat? You heard what he eat? That's why the success is what it is. You saw the clip? You saw the little clip of Joe in McDonald's? You didn't see that?
1:03:00Chad Johnson:I did see that. You didn't see it? He was sitting down in there. Yeah, he was sitting down in McDonald's.
1:03:04Daniel Cormier:So I'm telling you.
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1:05:06Daniel Cormier:He probably taking heed to like, you know what, let me listen to what Ocho been saying, and I'm going to just, yeah. Are you guys the best duo in football? Yeah.
1:05:14Chad Johnson:Yeah, I believe so. Yeah, that's it. I believe so.
1:05:17Daniel Cormier:Man, talk your shit. Man, don't do that, man.
1:05:18Chad Johnson:I ain't got to pop it too much, man. I don't need to pop it too much. Okay, okay, okay. Because if I start popping it too much, it's too much. Nah. They go, they go, everybody go say what you do.
1:05:25Daniel Cormier:Can you say it, T? Y 'all the best duo in football? Feel like so. Yeah, yeah. Nah, don't say it like that, man. Say it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know that.
1:05:31Chad Johnson:Look, since he want me to pop it so much, let's turn on the film and look at duo tapes.
1:05:36Daniel Cormier:There we go.
1:05:37Chad Johnson:Let's turn on the film and look at duo tapes if you want to go there. Yeah. That's all I need to say.
1:05:46Chad Johnson:I like CeeDee Lamb and George Pickens. Ooh. I like that. Oh, that's fun. That's a great duo. You know what I'm saying? They compliment each other. Right. That's a good one.
1:05:56Daniel Cormier:Do you see a picture? I've always said, I would love, I would love, and people, they get on me. Well, you didn't say that when it was time for T and then Chase. I've been vouching for George Pickens to go somewhere else where he can get his true value and what he's really worth because I understand how Jerry Jones is going to play when it comes time to pay. and what Pickens to me has shown is he can be a true number one, have his own team outside of having to share catches with Stevie Lamb. What's your thoughts on George Pickens staying in Dallas or going somewhere else where he can have his own team and be the number one?
1:06:28Chad Johnson:I could see both. You know what I'm saying? Really? I could. You know what I'm saying? He got another guy on the other side that the defense has got to focus on, you know what I'm saying? So that opened him up kind of like how we go. You know what I'm saying? but at the same time, dude good enough to go take over a team. You know what I'm saying? Sure. I got to agree with that, though. I feel like, I don't know. I like that Batman-Robin shit. You know what I'm saying? I like that. I like that. You know what I'm saying? I feel like it's just a lot more production coming out of the duo thing than the single-person thing.
1:07:01Chad Johnson:You know what I'm saying? It's easy to lock your ass down when you by yourself, bro. And I always tell him this shit when I be playing by myself sometimes because he see me come to the bench and I'm pissed off, and he's like, bro, I'd be like, you know what I'm saying? I got to go take me a stroll down the sideline. I got to tell motherfuckers, hey, leave him alone. Like, you know how I am. You know what I'm saying? It gets to a point where it gets aggravated when you by yourself. So that's why I always vouch like, you know what I'm saying? I need teeth. Not for me, but it's helping the whole offense.
1:07:30Chad Johnson:You know what I'm saying? Now it's opening up the run game, not a passing game. Now we going any down. We can pass the ball every down and they don't know.
1:07:36Shannon Sharpe:Right. Right. But I think the thing is for me, for George, and because you see a guy at his size, huge cage radius, he can catch the ball in traffic, he's physical, he's great running after the catch, he can take a smoke route and go 80 or he can take it over the top for 60. But when I look at him, he had to leave Pittsburgh because he had gotten comfortable, because he had gotten comfortable doing things his way. So he needed to go somewhere else where they weren't going to accept that. And once he locked in, he's like, well, damn. You mean the camera I can do this? I got 1 ,500 yards in me?
1:08:12Chad Johnson:Yes. And I also think he was in a better offense. Yes. I'm about to say, I think that's what it more was. You know what I'm saying? I don't think it's him getting used to something because you could get bored with it over time, but I think also what's around you could make that character.
1:08:23Shannon Sharpe:But you can ever, ever, ever. Professional. You could never let your circumstances dictate how you play. It was dictated how he played. Yeah, but that's also.
1:08:33Chad Johnson:I don't think they use him right. It's a lot more than that. Yeah. It's a lot more than that. Because everybody got their opinion on what he's doing in that locker room. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Don't nobody really know what's going on. At the end of the weekend, you're judging for somebody else, and don't nobody know what he's going through. You know what I'm saying? So you can't really look at that like that.
1:08:49Shannon Sharpe:I just look at him on the tape. I just look at him. I mean, he said it. You saw against Detroit on Thanksgiving. He has a tendency to drift, and he's not the first. I don't want people to think, well, I'm saying George Pickens is the first receiver. It happens a lot because what we would do with our number one receiver, we would get him involved early so we could have him late. Why am I going to throw Chase the ball? I'm going to go the whole first half, and I am not going to give Chase any catches. Then come four and quarter, hey, Chase, you ready? No, I ain't ready. I was ready in the first half.
1:09:22Chad Johnson:T, what do I say when I come back to the sideline sometimes? I'm tired of this superhero shit. You're stupid. Fucking take him a superhero. You know what I'm saying? So, like, some of that happens sometimes. Right, right. And like you said, you a fucking pro. Yes. And they're going to expect you to make this shit.
1:09:41Shannon Sharpe:They're giving you this money. They're going to expect you to make it. So what you got to do? Give it to me early. If you give it to me early, I ain't saying you got to throw me 15 balls in the first quarter. Right. But I'm saying give me. Three targets a quarter. That's all you need. That's it. Give me an opportunity. I just want to touch the ball. Throw me a smoke. Throw me a slant. Yeah. Throw me a jailbreak screen. Just give me something. and I would have touched the ball. But y 'all want me to go. Y 'all didn't ask Michael Jordan to wait to the fourth quarter of the football. It's different, though.
1:10:08Chad Johnson:We're not about to put basketball and football at the same time. That nigga MJ could take, that nigga could pass the ball. He going to do this in front of him. He going to throw that be right back. I got to wait for Joe to hike the ball from the center.
1:10:18Shannon Sharpe:I got to run past two defenders, cut this. It's a lot more. But that's what, but see, they know how to get you the ball. When you go on the sideline and you say leave him alone, he acting up. Zach
1:10:31Chad Johnson:So you said Why they gotta wait Till that long Yeah I understand that You know what I'm saying And Why I gotta show up Why y 'all think Sometimes Sometimes The game take you away
1:10:41Daniel Cormier:You know what's funny I think happens all the time Is I think coaches At times They overcomplicate things It's really easy It's simple There's a scheme There's tactics And if you want to get a player You want to get a player to ball You can get a player to ball You can get him to ball early Yes You don't have to get it to him often but just to get him involved, let T touch it, let Chase touch it, okay, now I can run my offense. Yes. Now, when the time comes and the defense dictates, okay, now we can get him the ball, then allow the Florida offense to go through them.
1:11:12Shannon Sharpe:Hey, they don't throw me the ball the whole first half and they come in the first quarter. Hey, for what you like. I would like to get the ball in the first half. That's what I would really like. Now y 'all want me to be offensive coordinator. Yeah. Y 'all told me to stay in my place earlier. Now y 'all want me to be the offensive coordinator. Nah, I'm good. Keep doing it. Spread it around. You know, we're going to spread it around, get everybody involved. Go ahead and get everybody involved.
1:11:36Chad Johnson:I mean, and we got a quarterback that want to spread it around too. You know what I'm saying? So, like, that's why me and T get along so much. You know what I'm saying? Because we got a quarterback that's going to spread it around. Right. It's not like we're going into the game like, like, it might be a game where we know 100 % like, motherfucker, we feeding T. We featuring L.A. You know what I'm saying? you might know a couple games. Other than that, we don't have those powers. Yeah. Bro, you're not going to have a chase.
1:12:03Shannon Sharpe:You're going to have 23 targets in the game, Chase. But listen, sometimes I don't even know that.
1:12:08Chad Johnson:I don't know that. T got to come to me and be like, bro. Flacco, Flacco game. T be coming to me like, bro, you know you got 15 targets? I'm like, huh? Like, you know, I just found out how to work the iPads on. Look at the stats and shit. I be looking at my shit. I just found that out. and he be telling me now. I don't ever know until he tell me.
1:12:27Shannon Sharpe:Right. So tell us, you got a podcast now, right?
1:12:29Chad Johnson:Yeah.
1:12:30Shannon Sharpe:So tell us about the podcast. What you talking about?
1:12:32Chad Johnson:Yeah, so I got a podcast called Chasing No One. Well, overtime, and I got T helping me start in it, so I'm going to get in a little bit of that, you know what I'm saying? Try to get y 'all on. Okay. We have some topics about that. I like it. I'm going to try to be in every bit of a topic as I can.
1:12:46Shannon Sharpe:Right. Right. So is this going to be year-round? Is this going to be an off-season thing? How do you approach it? I want to do it in season, for real. That's the biggest thing.
1:12:53Chad Johnson:Right. You know what I'm saying? I want to try to give one episode during the week. Oh, okay, okay. You know what I'm saying? That's not bad. But I'm not going to push it. Tuesdays. Tuesdays. Bingo. Hold on. You know what? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got it scheduled out. That's my goal, though. Right. To get it during the season because that's more of like I get – now they see how I'm thinking during the season. Yes. You know what I'm saying? What I got to say about the games. You know what I'm saying? And a lot of questions are going to be about what's coming up for my game, which I'm going to try not to answer.
1:13:15Chad Johnson:Right. Right. Right.
1:13:23Chad Johnson:Some live, some tape. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes I'm going to try to stream from Twitch. Right now I'm live on Twitch, so I'm doing that to help it out, so it's going to be combined with overtime. Right.
1:13:32Shannon Sharpe:So is it just going to be about that, or are you going to let them see your day-to-day life? Okay, guys, we're going to work out. Here I'm going to eat. Here I am, Chase and I. Tia and I, we playing games. We playing FIFA. We playing Madden. Yeah.
1:13:46Chad Johnson:So my Twitch is really for, like, day in the life or behind the scenes. You know what I'm saying? Okay. So the camera follow me everywhere. Okay. And then a podcast is like me talking about your football life. Football life. You know what I'm saying? And they're seeing two different perspectives. And I also do a YouTube channel, too. I got a YouTube where I drop videos. T has one, too. So, you know, I'm just showing off, you know, behind the scenes of a lifestyle, of an everyday lifestyle. Right. Because a lot of people want to know and ask questions about stuff like that. Right.
1:14:11Shannon Sharpe:I like it. I like it. How did you guys become so close? Because it seems like you guys are like, like, you guys are almost like brothers. I mean, you guys are like really close. Y 'all do a lot of things together. I see you guys in Miami. I think y 'all purchased. Y 'all got cars. Somebody got a McLaren. Somebody got a Lambo. And then, you know, you guys. I mean, how did you guys become so close?
1:14:35Chad Johnson:I feel like, you know, that first year. You know what I'm saying? Preseason, he come in. You know what I'm saying? He took a year off. He dropping balls. I go to the series. I'm like, Troy, man, I don't know, man. I don't know about this kid. You know what I mean? But then, man, you know, just working together, man. Every scene, each other, every day. You know what I'm saying? The bond just got closer and closer. And it was just a no-brainer.
1:14:58Daniel Cormier:The offseason's here now. Obviously, what are you guys doing this offseason away from the game of football?
1:15:05Chad Johnson:Me? You know what I'm saying? I'm down in Florida enjoying the weather, man. I'm trying to stay away from the cold.
1:15:09Daniel Cormier:Oh, so you down the street. Stay away from the cold, but we just had, it was 40 degrees out of the day.
1:15:13Chad Johnson:I was here.
1:15:16Daniel Cormier:What you doing? What you doing this offseason? Before you get back in the groove of working out.
1:15:20Chad Johnson:Really, I'm going to just, you know, I got the podcast going. I'm trying to do the twist. I'm trying to do a little more off the field stuff. Trying to get my off the field stuff going for me. You got to build your brand. Yeah, building the brand up. So that's the biggest thing I want to do first. And then, you know, I'm into the fashion stuff. So I'm going to try to go to like Paris. I'm going to line for the fashion world.
1:15:37Shannon Sharpe:You want to do a fashion line or you just like, obviously, is that something you're interested in? I mean. Open that door.
1:15:44Chad Johnson:Since you want to say that, Fabletics. Yes. You know what I'm saying? I'm with Fabletics. You know what I'm saying? This is my thing. So I'm coming out with... Right now, I already have a drop right now for the 2026 year. I already dropped the line. And then I'm going to drop another line after that in 2027. Try to come a little more cozy or fit, a little more swag style with it. Can I get a package? Yeah, I'm doubling and dabbling a lot right now. I'm trying to... All that. Can I get a package? I got you. I got you. You know, I'm in the fashion too. That's easy.
1:16:10Shannon Sharpe:Just send me the size and the way it's going. I'm a large. I'm a large. What is it about fashion? because you see a lot of NFL players. It wasn't like that when I played. It wasn't. Guys come with cover all blue, you know, and it came with flip-flops and everything. And you see guys now a little bit more fashion forward. They're wearing more of the designer. They're more focused and more conscious of their looks. What do you think, what contributed to that, and why is that important to you two?
1:16:37Chad Johnson:Well, me, I'm cool laid back. I'm throwing on sweats, t-shirts, black forces, and I'm cool, you know what I mean? but I dip it and dab a little bit in fashion. I don't really take it too serious. You take it serious? Yeah, I take it serious. You take it very serious? Yeah, I take it serious. Like he said, I could mix it up. The thing about me, I don't care about being judged if I'm coming in real baggy jeans, you know what I'm saying? Oversized, stuff like that. Because I know it's really the appearance and how I am as a person that's just going to give off, you know what I'm saying? And my clothes just make me feel better about my character when I'm talking at the end of the day.
1:17:16Chad Johnson:And that's what's going to give me that edge on my swag, on how confident I am when I walk into an office and I'm talking about fabletics. You know what I'm saying? That's just how my mind is going to work about it. And over time, I just got around more fashion world and just how it works. I just started to like it over time. You know what I'm saying? And I started at a young age stealing my brother's clothes out of his closet and making my own swag. You know what I'm saying? So I've always been a clothes hit. It's just now that I have more access to it, I can do what I want.
1:17:43Shannon Sharpe:And plus the thing is you're the right side. See, a big old N-word like me. I'm sorry, Mr. Chumper. See, that's the thing with me, too, man.
1:17:50Tee Higgins:I might go shopping for some pants.
1:17:51Daniel Cormier:Right.
1:17:52Tee Higgins:I might think the pants look crazy, but then I try on. They coming up here.
1:17:57Chad Johnson:I'm not trying to wear no high waters. Right, right. That's the thing about y 'all. Y 'all got to cuss some stuff. That's the best thing.
1:18:02Shannon Sharpe:Nah, it ain't the best thing. Nah. I want to go get up. Oh, I like this. Off the rack. Right off the rack. That's what I want to do. Big and tall. Congratulations, great season. Hell of a season. Congratulations, Chase. Great season. Continued success, man. Hey, team success is where it at. You want to build that brand? Win. Amen. Success first, always. For sure. Appreciate you, man. Thank you for coming on. Jamar Chase, T. Higgins. Thank you, guys. Appreciate you.
1:18:28Daniel Cormier:Woo! Hey, let me get a picture real quick. Hey, baby. Get a picture on.
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1:19:08Chad Johnson:yeah I'm going to go in the game with Nick 2017. Nick's ready to go in. Do some new options. What you going to do? I did that. I did that. I did. I did. I wanted to do it. That's what happened. I'm going to go in.
1:19:26Shannon Sharpe:I'm going to go in. Don't give up 200, 300. How the hell? Sometimes you got to lose money to miss you.
1:19:40Who?
1:19:41Shannon Sharpe:To the Raptors? Okay.
1:19:48Shannon Sharpe:We got another breaking story. Chris Paul to the Raptors. Ever since he had gotten released by the Clippers, he was looking to join on some team. Some thought he might join the Houston Rockets because they're in need of a point guard. But it is the Toronto Raptors. Chris Paul, his final season will be with the Toronto Raptors. I'm glad he was able to pick up and finish because it would have been bad to man his last season. He's made it known that this is his last season, Ocho, and to finish his last season only playing, you know, not even half the season. I'm sure that would have left a nasty taste in his mouth.
1:20:22Shannon Sharpe:Yes, sir. But he's going to finish his last season with the Raptors. They have a very good team. Brandon B.I., they got Scottie Barnes, who's an all-star. Now you add Chris Paul, someone that can distribute the basketball. I think they have an opportunity to make some noise in the East. I'm not saying they can come out of the evening. Right. They can make some noise. They can make some noise. Yes.
1:20:40Daniel Cormier:Make it exciting.
1:20:41Shannon Sharpe:Yes. Yes. Oh, that's it, huh? That's early. Oh, okay. Guys, thank you so much for joining us. I love you. This is... Call me.
1:20:54Shannon Sharpe:Nightcap Radio Row. We're back the same time tomorrow. Deebo and Joe will start from 8 to 10, and then Ocho and I come in with Nightcap Radio Row from 10 to 1. and then remember, tomorrow night, Nightcap Live at the Earps Theater at 8 p.m. If you're in the area, you want to have a good time, you want to laugh, you want to see Ocho and I, come on out, support. We greatly, greatly appreciate it. I am Unk, he's Ocho. We're done for today, but we'll see you tomorrow.
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