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14:25Chad Johnson:They say, Coach, give me that play over the top. No, we actually practiced that play where we were doing the three-on-three. Yeah. and the defense was tearing our ass up. We couldn't score. So I went over and said, Randy Campbell was our quarterback. And I called him and warned me because he wasn't what about. Even with his pants on, ran about a buck eight with all his pants on. And he said, Randy, I said, look, man, I was a seven foot high jumper in high school, which I was. I said, That's what I'm going to play for. We ran that play three times straight. I scored all three times. So Coach Dots said, why don't we put that play in?

15:16Chad Johnson:Okay. And we put that play in, and he called it over the top. And I scored. Wow.

15:23Shannon Sharpe:You got a podcast. You just started a podcast, right?

15:25Chad Johnson:I'm starting my podcast. Bold knows men's health. Okay. So all of that stuff we just talked about. Okay. It's about getting we as men to open up about personal medical issues. Because we hold stuff in too long. We don't talk about it because we think that it denigrates us as a man. The more you talk about it, the stronger it makes you. So I think it's one of my jobs. Like I said earlier, I don't think I was put on this earth to be a great football player, a great baseball player. I was prone to deserve to help put some sunshine in somebody's cloud. And by talking about this where nobody else do, where nobody else want, I figure that I'm giving something back to the public.

16:12Chad Johnson:Because the public has given me enough to where I can for the next 10 lifetimes. But I want to give something back. And that's knowledge about men's health. Don't sit up and keep this to yourself. and the thing that I want to do, let's say I come to your city. Call you. You get all your doctors, your cardiologists, your urologists, your proctologists. Get everybody. Bring them to the fireside chat. Put them on stage with you and I. Now, what we're going to do is advertise it enough to where all the local men in your town are going to want to come. We're going to charge them five That's five, five to ten bucks to a company for a one-hour five-side check.

17:02Chad Johnson:Now, those funds aren't going to go to me, not going to this, but the funds will go in a fund to help that guy who don't have good insurance like you and I. Right. To help pay for the PSA. Yep. To help pay for the colonoscopy. Yep. And what the doctor's going to do, because we're putting them on blast and talking about their company and their clinics, they got to give that patient a discount. Because we are bringing you more patients now. And if they had to pay for that market, it would cost them a half a million to a million and two dollars. So we're giving them that for free to let them come there and talk.

17:41Chad Johnson:So it's all about giving back with me. And if I figured I could put some sunshine in one somebody's cloud, I feel that I've done my job. So it's not about Bo Jackson and what he's done in sports. It's about what I'm doing now. Right. And for years since I left sports, I've been in the shadows. Yeah. I done raised three kids. They're all grown, married, got a good job. Still trying to get them off the payroll. Good luck with that. Good little of that. I'm still trying to get my paper. But I'm happy. I got two grand boys. I spoiled the shit out of them, man. Yes, sir.

18:25Shannon Sharpe:The kids tell you, say, Daddy, you treat them better and give them more than you gave us.

18:31Chad Johnson:Because I love them more. I love them more. You was my child. These are my grandkids. See, I can bring them over, jack them up on Skittles and Coke, and send them home doing easy. That's what I do. Buy them whatever they want. My oldest son, who's four years old, he'll get my phone or his non-announced phone, but he'll say, Nana, what's the code? Put the code in and open it. Go to the Target app. That's him right there. They'll go to the Target app. And he'll find something. Let's say he'll look at a car. It's that pop-up. He'll say, I don't have this one. which means you got to buy me this one.

19:17Chad Johnson:I don't have this one, so you got to get it from me. Right. That's what it's all about. I like that. Man, I'm happy.

19:24Shannon Sharpe:But the bike ride, you used to do a bike ride across Alabama.

19:29Chad Johnson:Bo Bikes Bama in this past summer was my last ride. Been doing it since 2012.

19:36Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

19:36Chad Johnson:And it's a raise money for Tornado Lake. But I want to do something different to help support minority charities. And I haven't come out public with that yet. That's in the state of Alabama. That's my home state. But in Chicago, I have a Bo Jackson's Give Me a Chance Foundation. And we raise money for youth golf and for half of the foundation. The other half we donate to the Shirley Ryan Ability Lab, which is the number one rehab hospital in the world for the past 35, 36 years. And we give funds to their challenged patient division. So it's all about giving back from it. That's what it is. It's all about giving back.

20:28Shannon Sharpe:Bo, you said your grandkids not going to play football. They're going to play baseball. Baseball.

20:34Chad Johnson:that four-year-old, because I take him to Sox Park with the area, he'll get out and, I see this little rubber balls, get his plastic back, and this joker hitting balls to second base, and he's four years old. At four already? He can stroke. He can stroke. Guess who, he'll say, guess who the three most famous baseball players in the world? Guess what he said. He said, Aaron Judge, Papa and me.

21:08Chad Johnson:And I love it. Yeah. I love it, man. I'm blessed to the point to where everybody in my family is happy. Yeah. My grandkids are happy. I'm happy. My friends are happy. And I'm going to do everything I can to keep those people that's in my little, little circle close to me. Make sure they're all right. and they'll make sure that I'm all right.

21:34Shannon Sharpe:How often do you get to the park? How often do you get to football games? Do you go to sporting events? Were you a big, I know you were great at sports, but did you enjoy sports? I love sports. So you get to the park, you get to the games much anymore?

21:48Chad Johnson:No. And it's for this reason. What's that? People always ask, Bo, you like, you can play football right now. I said, man, I pull a muscle lifting the toilet seat. I ain't playing no sport. Come on, be good. I said, I'll golf. And now I can't golf because I got a bicep tear. You gonna get it fixed? You gonna get it fixed? But I think it's strange because I had the MRI. This is just part of getting old. Yeah, yeah. Shit don't heal like they used to. No. Yeah, it don't. And you go to bed and feel fine and wake up and something hurt the next morning. It feel like you ain't got run over by a bus. What the hell did I do?

22:30Chad Johnson:But I'm thinking that my wife done beat me in my sleep. But yes, it's like that now. And we got to take care of ourselves. We do. We got to take care. Don't ignore stuff. Now, if we wasn't on this mic, we wouldn't be talking as cordial and polite. Right, right, right. But don't, you know how brothers talk. Yeah. They ain't going to say stuff. We ain't going to say stuff. Don't ignore it, dude. don't think it's going to go away because you don't know about it. Right. Get to your, because number one, your doctor's not going to lie to you. Right.

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25:48Chad Johnson:That's your only option. That's it. Unless you ain't going to be here long. Because look at how many guys that we played against. With. Played against, played with. From high school to now. Yeah. That's not with us. Yeah.

26:01Shannon Sharpe:I lost three former college teammates within a span of like three months. Yes. So tell us one more time about the podcast that you're launching. It's Black Men. No, it's called Bo Knows Men's Health. Bo Knows Men's Health. Bo Knows Men's Health. check out his podcast Bo Knows Men's Health you're talking to the greatest this was the greatest athlete of our time in the last hundred years there might have been others before a hundred years ago but you're talking about the last hundred years this man and I got an opportunity to see him play up close and personal with that Raiders team when he came to Denver and he ran over our linebacker in 1990 you remember that a mile high?

26:38Shannon Sharpe:Well I was hot

26:39Chad Johnson:as a jalapeno wasn't I? But you know something Right after I got off the field from that run, I went and got that oxygen for her. That, huh?

26:54Shannon Sharpe:That altitude. That altitude. Absolutely. Bo Jackson, Bo, thanks for stopping by, man. Appreciate you, man. Good to see you. It was a pleasure, baby.

27:01Chad Johnson:Thank you, brother. God bless y 'all. You too, Bo.

27:04Shannon Sharpe:Have a good one, man.

27:05Chad Johnson:All right.

27:06Shannon Sharpe:Hey, Chad. Hey, Chad, we got one of my brothers coming. But you know I'm going to tell my brother you say you can beat him in golf.

27:11Chad Johnson:Don't be lying to him, man. Because first thing he going to do is call me. Yeah. Hey, I hear you lying to my brother. I see Marcus got his dog. Yeah. Hey, that motherfucker never stay at home, boy. No. If there's a golf tournament or there'll be a game. What's up, bro?

27:34Shannon Sharpe:Hey, Chad. Hey, the thing is, you didn't know, but Marcus was the fullback for Bowie in Oakland. Yeah, I remember. Yeah. I remember. We got the clean, sanitized version of both.

27:48Trevor Lawrence:Oh, I can tell. I can tell. I can tell.

27:54Marga, come on.

27:55Trevor Lawrence:What's up, baby? We got OB. We got OB.

27:59Bo Jackson:I love when you guys start fighting.

28:01Trevor Lawrence:Huh?

28:02Bo Jackson:It's your boring, boring.

28:06Chad Johnson:What's up?

28:07Trevor Lawrence:What's up, baby? What's good? OB. Huh? Which one? Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, oh, yeah, oh, yeah, oh, yeah. I appreciate that, I appreciate that.

28:19Shannon Sharpe:Don't add no brown seed, that's his son. Yes, sir, how you doing? Hey, all right, Marcus.

28:22Trevor Lawrence:Let's get both of them.

28:26Chad Johnson:I bet you get your camera. Yeah. Yeah, see you and Kim Shoes on you. That's my other brother over there. He's a year younger than me. Hey, hey. Yeah, I ate all the food. You know this was the first player picnic on the ground. Yeah. Hey, I didn't know you guys were hot.

28:41Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

28:46Shannon Sharpe:Hey, D-Mac, get your ass off camera. We live. You blocking my shot.

28:53Shannon Sharpe:Noises.

28:54Bo Jackson:Noises. What's up? What's the mic on your head?

29:00Trevor Lawrence:What's he met, D-Mac?

29:01Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. He's on the 49er team, Super Bowl team, and he played with us. He won Super Bowl in 97 with us. This is what you get with live television. You never know. You get Bo Jackson and Marcus Allen, Tim Bakaia are blocking your view. Just having a conversation like, bro, we kind of lie. Joining us now, offensive tackle, former Pro Bowler. OB. Yes, sir. Orlando Brown Jr. Oh, how you doing, bro?

29:24Chad Johnson:I'm doing good. I'm good. Good to see you all. How's everything, baby? It's been great. Oh, yeah.

29:27Trevor Lawrence:So far this offseason, I mean, what have you been up to so far?

29:30Chad Johnson:Yeah, I've just been in the facility, man. You know, I don't leave Cincinnati. No. That's where I train. Are they home now? Yeah, that's home. I train there year-round. I love Cincy, man. It's really, it's a special place. And for me, so much of the sport is about staying in it. And I would go down to Miami and train, and don't get me wrong, I'd get in shape. But it was the mental aspect I felt like I would have to build back up when I came back. And so training hard in the facility day to day, keeping that same work routine year round, it just keeps me in that state of mind, man. You know what I mean?

29:59Trevor Lawrence:That's so much. I like your approach. I love your approach. But most of the time, I think about when I was playing is after a rigorous six months. Yeah. Rigorous six months. Yeah. putting the time on and off the field when it came to the game and studying the game, becoming a student of it, being somewhat of a sponge. Once the season ended, I needed to completely disconnect. I needed to recharge. I needed to reset. So your approach, I like it. I like it. But do you think you'll look back and say, well, damn, I never, bingo.

30:29Chad Johnson:Yeah. Yeah, well, you know, early in my career, I would show up to training camp out of shape. I would take my time off. I would be heavy, you know, showing up. my first four or five years in the league. And, you know, I would take that time off. I would take that six weeks or, you know, from whenever the season ended until. No, you can't take six weeks. I can't do that. I'm going to put on 50 pounds. You know what I mean? Okay, I get it. So, you know, for me, as a big guy, like, I got to stay in it. I keep my routine. Okay, I like it. I like it.

31:00Shannon Sharpe:Man, what you guys got to do, you look at your guys. You got T, you got Chase. Brown, the running back, came on and played unbelievable. You got a solid tight inning, Gasicki. Offensive line was good. Probably could get a little better. But what do you guys need to do? Oh, there's two years in a row with the talent that you got. You got a top five quarterback. You got a top one, top two receiver. You got T on the other side. Your running game is solid. What do you guys need to do to get into the postseason and make a deep run like you did in 2020?

31:31Chad Johnson:Yeah. Well, you know, man, we got the hardest piece of the puzzle in nine. You know what I mean? Yes. And a lot of teams don't have that. We're fortunate to already have the hardest piece of the puzzle. But to me, man, it just comes down to executing. You know what I'm saying? I feel like in terms of our overall continuity as a team, it hasn't necessarily been there when we needed it. And so whether that be us winning games in November and December, you know what I mean, it comes down to all of those different things, man. And to me, it points to the players in the locker room. What are you willing to sacrifice to make sure that we're able to go out here and win these games?

32:06Trevor Lawrence:If you were the GM, if you were Mike Brown, I want you to take, you're not Orlando Brown, the offensive tackle. You are the owner and the play caller, the one that can push the buttons on what we need to do to get over the hump. Whether it's offensively, whether it's defensively, what pieces would you love to add to the team to help you guys out? Whether it's on offense, whether it's on defense, whether it's special teams, just in general.

32:30Chad Johnson:Yeah, no, I mean, it's always tough answering these kind of questions. You know, they're my brothers in there, man. Yeah, I understand.

32:35Trevor Lawrence:I put every player on the spot as if they weren't said player. How can we improve our team?

32:41Chad Johnson:Well, I think the reality is in this league, you look at the two teams in the Super Bowl. Right. It's one of the trenches. And so to me, you know, I think it's going to start there. However, however that is, whoever that is, you know, having a playmaker, I believe, at one of those four positions is going to be extremely important, especially in our division. And from there, man, I think, you know, that would take care of a lot of issues. You know, if you're asking me if I want a safety or over a D lineman, not at all. You know, I think just taking care of the trenches, man, adding more weapons in that area.

33:15Chad Johnson:You can never have enough D linemen. I remember we played when I was in Kansas City, we played Philadelphia Eagles in the Super Bowl. I think they broke the single season sack record. And, I mean, they had a wave, three waves, two or three waves. I'm seeing BG, Robert Quinn, Josh Webb. Yes. You know what I mean? they got a wave of rushers and so to me that's what it takes that's what it takes in this league to be able to win

33:38Trevor Lawrence:more depth

33:38Shannon Sharpe:I like it

33:39Chad Johnson:I like it you got I mean when you

33:42Shannon Sharpe:I look at you you play a premium position in left tackle how many more years you want to play OB? I'll play until I'm 40

33:49Chad Johnson:10

33:50Shannon Sharpe:how old are you now?

33:51Chad Johnson:I turned 30 in May that's another 10 years yeah yeah man I mean what year is this for you? 8? I'm going into 9 9 oh yeah yeah you might as well

33:59Shannon Sharpe:go on and get 20 then You might want to do like a, what's the guy? Slater. Slater. Jackie Slater. Jackie Slater.

34:05Chad Johnson:I would love to. I mean, honestly, I want to play this game as long as I can. I really love this game, and I grew up in it, as you know. You know what I mean? I grew up around Tony Jones and my dad and Jonathan Nogden. You know, so many of these great players that Ray Lewis, man, just to be able to have that perspective at eight years old when those men come over and they sit down and talk with my dad because he's the OG on the team, and be able to listen to those conversations and hear what they gave to the game. Man, it's so special. It's so special to me. And so, man, I love what I do. You know what I'm saying?

34:36Chad Johnson:And I love what the game has done for me. Man, I hate to say it. You know, I love my life outside of ball too. But, man, I'm going to give him my all. I'm going to give him my all. And hopefully we look back when I'm 40 years old, we walk away, and I got a gold jacket. Hey, I like it. I like it. Appreciate it. Yes, sir. Have a good one.

34:52Shannon Sharpe:Orlando Brown Jr., thanks for joining us, bro. Of course. Appreciate y 'all. Yep. That's dope. All right. We got a very special guest joining us.

35:06Trevor Lawrence:My 1990 draft mate. Legend. Gator legend. Cowboy legend. I love gifts. What's up, boy? I love gifts, Em. Long time no see.

35:16Shannon Sharpe:What's up with the beard, baby? I can't. Hey, 90, we got to do it. I still got a little black in mind, though, Emmitt. You ain't got no black in mind. You went all the way.

35:25Trevor Lawrence:I know you ain't got no black in mind.

35:26Shannon Sharpe:Emmett, Emmett, Emmett, Emmett, Emmett, Emmett, you're a Silver Fox, huh?

35:28Trevor Lawrence:You're a Silver Fox? Hey, I am what I am. Yeah, I like you. But what we got here, boy, you know I love free gifts.

35:34Shannon Sharpe:Let me introduce him. All-time leading in Russian NFL history, a former MVP, Super Bowl MVP, first ballot Hall of Famer, here he is, 1990 classmate. Mm-hmm. We go way back. Uh-huh. We ain't going to mention. SLs. SLs. Black College Beach Week. This is my dog, Evin Smith. So as Ocho said, what do we got here? What's this?

35:59Bo Jackson:Well, what you got in your hand right now is a Tableau device that connects. It's an antenna that connects to your television network, and it streams live stuff throughout the entire house. Yeah. As far as every room that has a TV in it can connect to it. You get over 125 channels. and not to mention you can watch, pause, record, live television stuff, news, local news, live sports and popular shows. You can do all those kind of things just as if you would paying a subscription for something. Instead of paying all these different subscriptions, you can do a lot right there on Tableau.

36:36Shannon Sharpe:Them people ain't going to come to my house, Darity, am I? No, you can set it up on your own. No, I'm just talking about it because we get all this stuff that we ain't paying for. What people are you talking about? Do people that say hey you ain't paying for gaming. You say them people. Who them people? Do people that when you ain't paying for ish? Ish? When you ain't paying for nothing, they gonna come here.

36:56Bo Jackson:They gave that to you. Okay. These people gave it to you. I don't know who them people are.

37:01Shannon Sharpe:I would say Emmy gave me this.

37:02Bo Jackson:So if y 'all got some problem, y 'all gonna take it away. Now if you want to write, you know, you want to pay taxes on it, then that's on you. But that's a gift. That's under$1 ,000, under$10 ,000. So you should be good.

37:12Trevor Lawrence:Oh yeah, I'm gonna use this. I'm definitely gonna use this. You pay one subscription, right? No, you just pay one time. One time, you get all this stuff.

37:19Bo Jackson:Yeah, you don't have to pay the monthly stuff. This is a McDonald's guy. Yeah, I know. This is a guy that used to wear fake stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Used to. Not no more. I said used to. I did say used to. I did say used to. Yes, sir. What's been good? What's going on? Not much, man. Everything's good. I can't complain. Still in Dallas. Still in Dallas. Still in Dallas. Still in Dallas, man. Yep, still doing that. Kids still growing up. My son EJ is getting prepared for his pro day at A &M. That's dope. And so giving him, sending love his way and wanting to see if he can fulfill his dreams as well.

37:54Bo Jackson:So you know how that is. Yeah.

37:56Trevor Lawrence:I got an important question too. Go ahead. I got a very important question because we're dealing with someone here, the greatest star, the greatest player to wear that star on his helmet. So I've always had a dialogue with Cowboys fans. They've gotten on me. They've gotten on you for what? For what? Because I'm thinking about George Pickens and how valuable he is and what he was able to show in the small sample size and how great he can be in the right situation. It's time for him to get paid. I would like to know your thoughts and me, my thoughts before you go, is him going to a team where he can maximize his true value.

38:32Trevor Lawrence:What do you think?

38:33Bo Jackson:King is getting paid. I would say George Pickens is at the right place. He is in the right place. he has a place where he can flourish. He has a place right alongside CD Land. Yes. Because I think you have to have a Batman and a Robin together. Irvin had Harper. Rice had John Taylor. Yes. And even when you go back to... Swan and Star Wars. Swan and Star Wars. Yes, yes. So you have to have that kind of scenario. And I think what you saw was a glimpse of how good he can really become in a system that supports that type of environment. Yes. And so my hope is that Jerry and George get this contractual stuff behind them so we don't have to be dealing with all these questions during this time of season.

39:30Bo Jackson:the Dallas Cowboys deserve and the fans deserve a very quiet boring offseason that when has that ever happened that's why they deserve one that's why they deserve one yeah I like it I like it and

39:48Trevor Lawrence:I love the examples of the duos that you just said but when I think about George Pickens and CeeDee Lamb those are two number ones so based on what George Pickens has done and what George picking that showed you whatever contract the one that he deserved it has to overlap that of cd lambs

40:04Bo Jackson:maybe maybe not first and foremost so you want to take a pay cut we don't know if he is the number one a number one don't quit a number one goes through and don't pout when he doesn't get the ball a number one understand that defenses could be doubling up on one and you don't get not a throw. A number one says, okay, I'm going to draw double coverage. You better tear that one-on-one up by yourself. Yes, sir. A number one says, hey, how can we run the ball? I mean, we're trying to throw the ball against double coverage over here, and I got guys all over me, and I got a defense. I'm playing the defensive back.

40:41Bo Jackson:You didn't hire me to play DB. So, a number one says, run the daggone ball when it's six in the box or seven in the box. What did Michael tell you in cover two? What did he tell you? But Michael says, throw it to me anyway. I'm going to go get it. And Mike went and got it. But Mike went and got it. Right. In cover two, you got to run him up out of it. But Mike ran and got it, though. Yeah. Mike was never afraid of going in there against two guys or three guys. Yeah. Mike tell you right now, you throw that slant, my folks back in Miami going to eat. Yeah. Because I'm going to catch that slant. I may get knocked out.

41:15Bo Jackson:Right. But I'm going to catch that slant. I'm going to go on the ground like this. Catch. And they're going to be moving the chains. And so that's the mentality that George needs to develop. You said a key word. He has to get in that system that affords an opportunity to showcase his number one. Harper thought he was the number one until he went to Tampa. A system also gives you the ability to shine at your best.

41:41Trevor Lawrence:The right system. The wrong system will hold you back. This is the funny thing about it is, is George Pickens has a skill set. me knowing receivers is he has a skill set to go anywhere and be able to show what he can do. I doubt that. I'm telling you because we saw him do it in Pittsburgh. Bro. In Spursville, and they didn't even have a quarterback. Bro. You put George system in Oakland.

42:07Bo Jackson:You put George Pickens in Oakland? Put him in Oakland. With Mendoza coming? No, no, no.

42:11Trevor Lawrence:No. You put him in Vegas. Yeah. Right now. Oh, right now? Right now. Get in the ball. Put it in his hands. No. Put him in position to make the plays.

42:19Shannon Sharpe:You got to have somebody that can get in the ball. You got to have somebody that can get in the ball.

42:22Bo Jackson:So all I'm saying is the way he flourishes at is when he got somebody that can get in the ball and there's a concerted effort. Whether you double him or double Seedy, one of them is going to be one-on-one. And I better destroy somebody that's one-on-one. If I'm not destroying somebody one-on-one, that means the tight end is free, too. He's one-on-one. Right. And so I'm going to run him out of that. They're going to have to go back to cover, too. Yep. I'm going to get mine. Right. But see, nobody's not standing there. That's the selfish part about football. I knew if it was eight in the box. I'm like, dang, dang, I can't get 100.

42:55Bo Jackson:But I tell you what, that eighth man going to get it. Yes. He going to feel it. Four quarters, he ain't going to want to stick his head in there. Yeah. That's what has to happen. And I knew going into certain games, whether it was against Philly, when Bud and Ryan had that eighth man, that bare defense.

43:10Trevor Lawrence:Bare defense.

43:11Bo Jackson:I'm like, man, I'd be lucky to get 55 yards today. But I knew that. But I'm looking at her. Better eat. Yeah. Better eat because when it's my time to eat, I'm going to eat. Yes, sir. So that's the yin and the yang of the game. Because the system and the defense also dictates what's happening. Because they can bracket you without even covering you. Yeah. And close down the throwing lanes and throwing gaps. And guess who has to pull the trigger? The quarterback. The quarterback. And if he's not comfortable with those small windows, he ain't throwing it your way. Yeah.

43:45Shannon Sharpe:Ain't got nothing to do with the system. We had a conversation yesterday. Ocho and I, we were having a conversation. Hopefully that answered your question.

43:53Trevor Lawrence:It's a little selfish on your part a little bit. It's a little selfish on the Cowboys fans' part as well because I'm looking at something else.

43:59Shannon Sharpe:Chad, you're looking at the right thing. Chad, remember we had the conversation yesterday, and I told CD, excuse me, I told Chase, and Chase was trying to tell me, X, Y, and Z. I said, well, a number one, I said, you never let how much you get in the ball or the situation dictate how hard you play. No. You play hard regardless of circumstances. Whether I catch 10 balls or I catch one, I'm going to play hard. We've seen him drift. Forget about anything that may or may not have happened in Pittsburgh, late for this, late for that, or whatever the case may be. But we've seen it firsthand that when he's not getting the ball, it became a national story because the head coach said, I had a conversation with George, and we can't let what happened at Thanksgiving against the Lions, Nope.

44:42Shannon Sharpe:We can't let that happen again. Right. So that's all I've ever seen.

44:46Bo Jackson:Here's what I'm going to say. What brand you got? What brand do you have? What brand do you have? What kind of football player were you? What kind of football player were you? That's it.

44:59Shannon Sharpe:That's your brand.

44:59Bo Jackson:What kind of football player am I? I don't have to talk about it. It goes in the room before I get there. And at the end of the day, George has to ask himself, what do I want to send on the football field before I get there? I want people to be in the locker room or in their study room, and I want the offensive coordinator to come up, guys, we got to stop the run this week. This 22 back here that they got, we can't let him get going.

45:24Trevor Lawrence:Yes, sir.

45:25Bo Jackson:Because if we let him get going, 88 going to kill us. Then Novichek going to get going. So we got to figure out a way. How are we going to do this? I want them to have a damn nightmare thinking about how they're going to stop us. Because at the end of the day, you can't hold everything back. and when you hold one back, now I understand why. Thank you for the respect. Yes, sir. And all I'm saying, George has to develop that kind of, it's not all about me. Yes. And that's the problem with a lot of kids today. They think everything is about them. And so I had, what I learned from Jimmy one day, I'm a rookie.

46:03Bo Jackson:We having our two-minute drill on Thursday night. You have a two-minute drill. and Jimmy's in charge of spotting the ball. He's the ref. Yeah. And so it's third and by four. I get five yards, do my little hookup, catch the ball first down. I see first down. Jimmy said, no first down, no first down. Moving back three yards. So I was like, no, I got a first down, no first down. He said, no first down. Get in the huddle, get in the huddle. I said, but coach, I got the first down. Get in the huddle, get your butt in the huddle. So I go in the huddle. Then we break in the huddle, coming out. He said, timeout.

46:30Bo Jackson:Call timeout. Troy Walkers is over to the sideline. I go up to him. I said, Coach, I got the first day. He said, get your butt in the auto. Embarrassed me in front of all my teammates. I was mad. So I didn't talk to him. After practice, I walked by him. Don't say nothing. I'm going to the meeting room back there. Walk past him. Don't say nothing. Come back out of the meeting room, go into the training room. Walk past him. Don't say nothing. Getting ready to leave the training room. Walk past him. He said, oh, you're not going to speak? I said, Coach, why you get on me like that? Why you embarrass me in front of my teammates?

46:57Bo Jackson:He said, E, I want you to know something. That wasn't for you. that was for everybody on the team to know that if I can get on my best players and if you're not one of the top players, then you don't stand a chance. But I was mad because I had to call a timeout. I was mad at the OC for not getting to play any time enough. Didn't have nothing to do with you. And I understood that. I said, wow, what a lesson to learn. We thought and we think things are about us. George, it's not all about you. CD is not all about you. Tight end is not all about him. Dak, it's not all about you. The five guys up front that protect all of y 'all in order for you to get the ball, make it about them.

47:37Bo Jackson:Yeah. Because that's how you get the running game going. That's how you get the pass game going. If Dak is on his back, he can't throw a damn pass. No, not at all.

47:44Trevor Lawrence:Not at all.

47:45Bo Jackson:So it's just that simple to me.

47:47Shannon Sharpe:Hall of Famer, number 22 for the Dallas Cowboys. Emmitt Smith, Emmitt, appreciate it.

47:51Trevor Lawrence:Hopefully that educated you a little bit.

47:53Shannon Sharpe:Do we get to keep him or are you going to keep him?

47:54Trevor Lawrence:No, you get to keep him. Okay. Oh, but don't nobody give me nothing. I gave you something. Appreciate it. I'm just saying, I rarely get gifts, but I appreciate that. What do you mean you rarely get gifts? Do you accept gifts? Hey, Emma gave me a gift, huh? What we talking about?

48:09Bo Jackson:Appreciate you, dog.

48:10Trevor Lawrence:But no, but that's the real it.

48:11Bo Jackson:Yeah, yeah.

48:12Trevor Lawrence:Hey, it's more to be talked about. It's more to be talked about. Okay, whatever. I mean, we'll talk. We'll talk. We'll talk. We'll talk.

48:20Bo Jackson:Earl, what's the number one?

48:25Trevor Lawrence:Am I going to get it? Is he going to get his true value? It's true. The value.

48:29Bo Jackson:Whoever get their true value. Quarterbacks do. Yeah. The motherfuckers don't even deserve it. True. Yeah, I said it. I said it. Good to see you, dog. I ain't lying neither. And you know. Shit. You trying to tell me. You trying to tell me some of these motherfuckers that kind of money deserve it? Right. Hell, I need back pain compared to some of these motherfuckers.

48:55Shannon Sharpe:Good to see you, dog.

48:56Bo Jackson:Oh, yeah, I get a photo with these robes.

49:03Bo Jackson:Y 'all got my man Aaron coming in here. What's up? Hey, how's it going, man? Great seeing you, too. Hey, y 'all take care of him now. Oh, y 'all take care of him. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. What's up?

49:15Connor Hayes:Appreciate you, bro. Yes, sir, you already done. What's up? What are you doing, bro? You good? Yes, sir. What's up? Conigas now.

49:20Shannon Sharpe:He played with the Green Bay Packers from 2017 to 2023. Now he's a Minnesota Vikings 2024. Moving forward, kind of ding this year. Here he is, Aaron Jones. AJ, what's going on, bro?

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51:41Shannon Sharpe:Ah, man. Let's start with the elevator room. It's got to be paid. The guy that y 'all had a quarterback last year is here. How different do you believe your season would have been had that guy still been in your locker room? I feel like we, last year, we only lost to two teams, really.

52:01Connor Hayes:We lost two games. We lost to two games, two to the Rams and then two to the Lions. So I felt like we had everything we needed. But, you know, we're not GMs or nothing. Right. That's outside of us. Yes. But definitely, you know, when you got a group of guys behind a quarterback and he wants to stay somewhere, I think you try to make it work. Right.

52:25Shannon Sharpe:When I look at you, look at your general manager, Kwasi Adolfo Mensah, who ended up losing his job. Obviously, you know, they said, well, he had this many draft picks and only two Pro Bowl players were selected. And Sam Donald ends up going to, on a very friendly contract, There's no question in my mind that the Minnesota could have matched that contract because it seemed like it was like$30-something million and a couple of incentives. You win your division, you win a playoff game, you get to the Super Bowl. Man, who wouldn't put those kind of incentives in there? I mean, I got to pay a million dollars if he gets to the Super Bowl?

52:56Shannon Sharpe:I would gladly pay a million dollars to get a guy to get me to the Super Bowl.

53:00Connor Hayes:I'd pay him too. I'd pay him. He got my check in this Super Bowl check.

53:05Shannon Sharpe:How do you feel? I mean, this year you got nicked a little bit. It's been a while. I mean, normally you're very durable. You catch the ball up, you'll do a threat. You can catch it, you can run it, but you kind of got nicked this year. How disappointed and frustrated was your season this year compared to years past?

53:21Connor Hayes:It was a little frustrating. I wouldn't say disappointed because I got to step up as a leader, find different ways to make an impact. But it was because I feel like when I'm healthy and when I'm out there, can't be effed with. At all. So it's a point of just staying healthy, and I never felt like after I got week two, I pulled my hamstring in. Yeah. Really didn't get back healthy until I came back, but really wasn't feeling myself until Detroit. The first time we played Detroit, I came out in the first half at, like, 78 yards and then start the third quarter AC joint. Missed the rest of that and just battling.

53:57Connor Hayes:So just get back to it, really grind this offseason, take care of myself, and had the best one yet. Show everybody I still got it and I'm still him. Yeah. I'm the best running out.

54:11Trevor Lawrence:Outside of having to prove yourself, not even prove yourself, but prove all the doubt is wrong, in your team, you look at the landscape of your team, what do you think you guys need to do differently to be able to be in the conversation and be here? Well, you're not here talking with us, but you're here doing radio, road, media in the Super Bowl next year. What do you think needs to happen?

54:29Connor Hayes:I feel like it comes down to execution and minimizing the mistakes. Yes. You got to play mistake-free football or at least, you know, nothing's going to be perfect, but don't turn over the ball. Right. Anytime you don't turn over the ball, you give yourself a chance to win. But just all 11 playing with a mean streak across the board, like, because I feel like when we would lock in and we'd move the ball, but if not, if nobody was saying nothing, it wasn't happening. So just staying on top of everybody when we get in the huddle and being that enforcer of confidence. Like, hey, is there any place y 'all would rather be?

55:06Connor Hayes:Y 'all dream to be in here right now. So, like, let's go do this. I don't care who's standing in front of you. Yeah. And it was because that's how I think when I step on the field. Like, I came in with A-Rod, Devontae Adams, but in my head, I was the best player on the field. Was I really? Maybe not. But you got to be that. You got to have that mentality. A hundred percent.

55:26Shannon Sharpe:As you mentioned, A-Rod, he's contemplating retirement. He's about to be 42 years of age. What advice would you offer, Aaron? Like I said, you had some great years with Aaron. You won some MVP. You was there when he won MVPs when he was at his absolute apex.

55:41Chad Johnson:Yes.

55:43Shannon Sharpe:If you could offer some insight. You know, he said, I want to decompress. I want to take some time away from this before I make my decision. It seemed like he was having fun, the most fun he's had in a very long time in Pittsburgh as opposed to previous two seasons in New York. Anything you want to share?

55:58Connor Hayes:That's exactly what I was about to hit on. I think he got a lot of ball left. Like, you see him out there, he looks like he's having fun. His celebrations, the love for the game is back in his heart, and you can see it. And he's a competitor. I think he – if you ask me, I think he comes back. I think he got a lot left. Like, you see at the end of one of the games, he threw a Hail Mary, just flicked his wrist at 70. Yeah. You can't just come out and coach that.

56:25Trevor Lawrence:If he comes back, would it be there or would it be in Minnesota?

56:32Trevor Lawrence:I like him in Minnesota.

56:34Connor Hayes:I mean, that's my dog. I'm just throwing that down. And then just what he brings to a locker room. Yeah. That leadership that is a standard. Like, if you ain't in your playbook, oh, you ain't seeing the field. He going to test you. He going to throw some signals out there, and he going to see if you really care about it. Right, right. And as a player, like, I love that because I'm in my books. I'm making an effort. Like, I came from Utah from nothing. Right. So I had to earn that. And when you do it the right way and it's noticed, it's refreshing.

57:08Trevor Lawrence:And most definitely, when I think about it, too, just envision it, hypothetically speaking. You know, quarterbacks normally flourish, especially like Aaron Rodgers, who's now on the older side. So you put him in a situation where he doesn't have to elevate those around him, but the team around him can elevate him. And you know what team can do that? Yeah.

57:28Shannon Sharpe:We got Hawkinson. is going to be back. They got Naylor. It makes sense to me. You running the ball in the backfield.

57:36Connor Hayes:Jordan Mason's still there.

57:38Shannon Sharpe:You've got a situation where you're going into your 10th season. Normally 10 years for a running back, that's kind of it. But you're still playing at an elite level. What would you attribute that to?

57:50Connor Hayes:Just stand on top of, even though I was banged up a little bit this year, just stand on top of my body as much as I can, And trying to find different things and different ways to stay in front of it. I'm back in the – after I leave the facility, I'm back in the facility every day for about two hours. I go home, two hours, hang out, grab my son. He come to the facility with me. He in the hot tub. He in the coat. He in the sauna. He doing all of that. So just finding ways to stay ahead of the game and then just really busting my butt in the offseason. and just kind of I took it from Jerry Rice. I was watching something, and he was saying he don't take much time off.

58:30Connor Hayes:Yeah. Like, from running, like, he keeps his body going. He's active, yeah. So it never, all right, I'm old. Now I got to get this body back going. So just kind of took that from him. And then I think it's mentality that I want to. I want to play this game for as long as I can until they tell me I can't. So it's funny because we had, like, Harrison Smith, C.J. Hamm retire this year. and I'm looking at them. I'm like, yeah, I don't, this is not going to be me. I don't, like, I'm going to have to go through the list. I'm going to have to go down the list. I'm going to have to tell you you can't play no more.

59:00Connor Hayes:Drew, this team don't want me. Okay, call the next team. Okay, call the next team. And that's how I feel like this is going to end for me. I like it. I like it.

59:09Shannon Sharpe:You got a quarterback. You selected very high J.J. McCarthy, but he's kind of been Nick, missed his entire rookie year and was in and out of the lineup this year. What do you think he needs to do in order to stay healthy on the field and then prove? Because right now he's up against the ghost of Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold was there, and you mentioned they won. Y 'all was 14-3 the year that Sam Darnold was playing. And now Sam goes to another team, and he's in the Super Bowl. So unfortunately for him, he's up against the ghost of Sam Darnold.

59:38Connor Hayes:I think he's just got to come in and continue to grow, continue to believe in himself. And I always tell him, you're here for a reason. Yep. We need you, and you made it this far by what you got up here, and you're God-given a billion in the work that you put in. So don't let that change you. Don't let no outside noise change you or how you think of yourself because confidence is a big thing when you step on that field. Big. Confidence is everything. Just trying to still that into him. But just getting back to the fundamentals, sitting down, taking a deep breath, and I feel like trading camp will be huge for him, all those reps and stuff like that.

1:00:15Connor Hayes:And I say with a young quarterback, it takes time. Yes. Like, look at Sam Durk. They was ready to write him off at one point. Yeah. Look at Jordan Love. He had time to come in and sit down and develop. Bryce Young, this year, he had time to sit down. Look good. But not, he didn't even sit down. He played through that development, though, and they gave him that time. He got benched and came back and still looked good. Yeah. I got you. It takes time for quarterbacks. I think we're so used to those cornerstone quarterbacks that we've had for a while, and I think it's changing over. And it takes time for those guys to develop.

1:00:53Shannon Sharpe:But people just look at Peyton, and they're like, look at Peyton Manning. Peyton was terrible at his rookie year. I was in the league, and Tom didn't even start his rookie year, so we don't know what Tom could or couldn't have been. And then for the first couple of years, they were a run defensive football team. before the Tom, yeah, we see the finish product of Tom, but Tom didn't start off like that. Because if he started off like that, he wouldn't have been a sixth-round draft pick. He'd have been a first-round draft pick. But that being said, you do, and you hear all the quarterbacks talk about it.

1:01:22Shannon Sharpe:You hear Peyton, you hear Tom, you hear Drew, you hear some of these guys. It's like, they're not developing quarterbacks anymore because everybody wants this thing instantaneous. They're not willing to let these guys grow. Bro, you ain't want us a playoff game yet? Bro, I'm a rookie.

1:01:37Connor Hayes:100%. And it seemed like it all fought on them, too. Yes. And it's not always them. There's things around them that got to be working, too. We got to make their job easier, like you said.

1:01:49Shannon Sharpe:Because the thing is now you see the cap went up to, like, between$301 million and$305 million. So in the next five years, that means the cap's going to be damn near$400 million. The money on keep coming in. So with that being said, when you got to play, within the next 10 years, you know there's going to be a quarterback making$100 million a year. Oh, 100%. He's going to be making$100 million a year. Just let us running backs get a little soft. Just let us running backs get a little soft. And so the thing is that, hey, we're going to pay somebody$100 million a year. I got to know for certain he can play.

1:02:16Connor Hayes:He's the one. He got to be the one. $100 million, he got to be able to take us to the game. For sure. $100 million. Absolutely.

1:02:21Shannon Sharpe:That's a big investment. Yeah. Aaron Jones, thanks for joining us, bro. I appreciate you.

1:02:26Connor Hayes:I love legends. We haven't seen you in a minute, man. Sir, you already know. I got something for y 'all, too. What you got? What you got here? So I got my clothing brand. It's a lifestyle brand. Where we at? I got you. As a matter of fact, I'm having a Super Bowl showtime bowl tomorrow. Okay. 1015 Folsom. It's a day party. 430 to 830. It's a pop-up time Super Bowl party. We got G Herbo pulling up. Okay. Do a little quick set and open bar, hors d 'oeuvres, and I'll sign up for y 'all. I like that. Please, please.

1:02:59Trevor Lawrence:Yeah, but I done got two gifts today.

1:03:01Connor Hayes:So I got to come take care of the family.

1:03:05Shannon Sharpe:Appreciate you, bro.

1:03:05Connor Hayes:Hey, boss. Appreciate y 'all.

1:03:09Trevor Lawrence:Yeah, Chad, I know y 'all jealous. I got a ball sign.

1:03:13Shannon Sharpe:Babe, that was y 'all.

1:03:15Connor Hayes:I'm going to have some stuff for y 'all. We got it. I'm a large. This is a jacket right here. I'm a large. Appreciate you, bro. I don't know what my sister has. She got like a leather. Chelsea. Show them the jacket. You got the jacket on?

1:03:30Trevor Lawrence:Jacket. Okay. That's my size, too. Duffles. That's a large? Yeah, let me see that. Let me see that. Hand me that.

1:03:37Connor Hayes:A little bit of everything.

1:03:38Trevor Lawrence:I like you. I like you.

1:03:42Connor Hayes:Thank you.

1:03:45Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah. Hey, huh? Yeah. Oh, yeah. How you gonna take the girl, the jacket off the lady back, man? Damn.

1:03:52Trevor Lawrence:What side is here, boy? That's a large. Yeah, this me here. Yeah. Appreciate that. That's inside.

1:03:57Shannon Sharpe:Hey, Chad, how I look, Chad?

1:03:58Trevor Lawrence:Hey, yo. Huh?

1:03:59Shannon Sharpe:That's not mine. This is me. This is me. This is me.

1:04:03Trevor Lawrence:No, that's real.

1:04:08Trevor Lawrence:That's real. I like this, boy. Thank you, Garth. All right, back. You here all week. Nice. And you at the crib anyway. You remind me? Oh, yeah, we good.

1:04:17Shannon Sharpe:No, I'm not here. I'm leaving tomorrow. All right, we got the next guest coming in. He's the head.

1:04:22Trevor Lawrence:All right, back. We're talking.

1:04:26Shannon Sharpe:Who you got?

1:04:27Trevor Lawrence:Who you got?

1:04:28Shannon Sharpe:Head of Threads. All right, let's get in here. Yes. What up, twin? How are you? Connor. You good? How are you? Connor is a huge, huge Pats fan. That's true. And you're a huge Bad Bunny fan, so damn, you got to double the sweepstakes. It's all coming up, Connor.

1:04:45Sauce Gardner:That's what everyone's been saying, actually.

1:04:47Shannon Sharpe:Are you surprised at the beginning of the year, new head coach, your quarterback's only in the second year, are you surprised that you guys were this good this soon?

1:04:56Sauce Gardner:I was expecting them to make the playoffs this year, but not make the Super Bowl. I actually think when they played the Saints, it was like week four or five. There was a couple of plays in that game, like touch pass to booty down the left side of the field, where I was like, what's happening here? Is this a real thing? And that's when I started getting my Drake May MVP futures in place. But definitely didn't think this was a Super Bowl team.

1:05:20Shannon Sharpe:I didn't think you guys were a playoff team, considering you did lose to Las Vegas Raiders the first game of the season.

1:05:24Sauce Gardner:We don't talk about that. Can we cut that?

1:05:28Trevor Lawrence:Not only did they lose to the Raiders at the beginning of the season, I'm thinking about the Patriots and how they looked the previous season, going 4-13, having a rookie quarterback. Going into a second year, they're a growing pain if you lose to 12. And a new head coach. Most teams in purgatory from that position for a very long time before you find the next answer. And Drake May now seems to be that answer very, very early for the Patriots. And I was shocked. I'm excited for them, you know, that they're in this position. So I'd assume if you're a gambler, man, you are going for the Patriots to win this game.

1:06:02Sauce Gardner:I think they're going to win the game.

1:06:04Trevor Lawrence:You don't sound too confident, Conor.

1:06:06Sauce Gardner:No, well, I mean, the whole world, everyone on threads is saying that the Seahawks are going to win the game. It's very curious to me that the Seahawks were not favored against the Niners in Week 18 when the Niners were missing half their team. And all of a sudden they win two games and they're the greatest team of all time. I don't know. So the Patriots, I think they're, what, since that week one loss against the Raiders, they're 17-2. That's pretty impressive. That's very crazy. That's very impressive. Those schedule mongers out there, I don't know, they might be sad on Sunday night.

1:06:41Shannon Sharpe:Summarize the chat on NFL threads. What's the vibe in the community? What's some of the hot takes? It's been getting a lot bigger.

1:06:49Sauce Gardner:So if you think about, like, a year ago, I mean, I wasn't sitting here with you guys talking about the NFL, which is awesome. This has been really, really cool. Hopefully you guys have enjoyed being here in Red Zone.

1:06:59Trevor Lawrence:Absolutely.

1:07:00Sauce Gardner:But, yeah, I mean, the conversation's been growing. We've been getting a lot more voices into the app that are really important in the sport. Like, Shannon, you've been really active on there. Yep. Kay Adams, Chad, all the sort of top voices in the sport. That's phase one, right? You get the people that are authoritative and folks want to hear from, and then the fans just kind of take that and go with it, and that's what we're starting to see.

1:07:22Shannon Sharpe:Something's going to get you out of here on this one. why is threads why is it so popular for you guys to lean into the nfl it's the biggest sport in the

1:07:30Sauce Gardner:u.s i mean um we want to be an app that represents culture and what people are talking about and what's going on in the world the u.s is the biggest exporter of culture that's ever existed so if you go to the biggest sport in the u.s and you try to be important for that i think it creates a meaningful path for you to be a leading app in the space so that's why we care about it It's been really good. It's great to be here at the Super Bowl, and I really appreciate you guys being here as well. Appreciate you. Connor, thank you.

1:07:56Shannon Sharpe:Connor Hayes, head of thread. Thank you, guys.

1:07:58Trevor Lawrence:Connor.

1:08:00Shannon Sharpe:Ocho talking to his dog. Appreciate you, man. Chad, Chad. Say what's up. Hey, French Fry.

1:08:09Trevor Lawrence:Hey, French Fry. Hey, Chad, you see French Fry?

1:08:17Trevor Lawrence:Daddy, daddy. Who we got? Daddy's working, baby. Okay. I'm going to call you since Daddy finished working, okay? Okay, I'll send you some money.

1:08:28Shannon Sharpe:If you could be gifted a ticket to any event in the world, which one would it be? If I could be gifted a ticket to any event in the world, Wimbledon. Wimbledon? Yep.

1:08:44Trevor Lawrence:The World Cup Final. The World Cup Final. If I could be gifted, the ticket to get any event in the world would be the World Cup final. Nothing better than that. The Wimbledon is awesome. But the World Cup final.

1:08:55Shannon Sharpe:No, I want to go. I want to go. I've been to Super Bowl. I've been to NBA finals. I've been to World Series.

1:09:01Trevor Lawrence:But you haven't been to the World Cup final.

1:09:02Shannon Sharpe:I haven't been to the World Cup final. I'm not saying that's really high up on my priority list. But it should be.

1:09:08Trevor Lawrence:Wimbledon. If you had the opportunity to experience, let's say just a game in general. We go into a game.

1:09:14Shannon Sharpe:I want to go to Wimbledon. I want to be on center court. I mean, I've seen Serena play. Yes. I mean, it would have been great to be at center court and see Roger Federer or Nadal or Djokovic, unfortunately. But I'll take Alcaraz and center, if I can see those guys play at center court in Wimbledon. But that would be it. That would be it for me. Ochoa said the World Cup final. Yeah, absolutely. I want the ticket to Wimbledon, center court.

1:09:44Trevor Lawrence:I think, Chad, I can get his answer to change if I can get him into a game. If I can get him into a game to see the atmosphere and experience the atmosphere of just a regular game.

1:09:53Shannon Sharpe:No.

1:09:53Trevor Lawrence:Just a regular game. I guarantee you his answer on wanting a Wimbledon ticket final changes.

1:09:58Shannon Sharpe:No, because, you know, I'm going to be able to see. I'm going to see Federer. I'll see Nadal. I'll see some of the past greats. Sampras. I mean, you can see some of the past greats in soccer as well. They're not going to be there like that.

1:10:10Trevor Lawrence:I can make sure you meet them.

1:10:12Shannon Sharpe:No. No. You're not changing my mind.

1:10:15Trevor Lawrence:I can change your mind. I just got to get you in the atmosphere first. There's another, read that, what did that say? Ocho, with all the VIP parties, have you broken down and eaten expensive food yet?

1:10:29Shannon Sharpe:All I know is I had the hardest party in town last night.

1:10:33Trevor Lawrence:You know what? VIP parties, I'm really not a VIP person. If you understand how I conduct myself, flying spirit, I don't do any of the VIP stuff. I don't live that lifestyle, I really never have. so I've had McDonald's I went to Nations yesterday I had their sliders the sliders at Nations was awesome today I'm going to venture out in the city again and see what else they have I'm going to see if I can find soul food over in the Bay Area and that's pretty much it

1:11:11Shannon Sharpe:what's up bro here you are Tight end. 2025 first-team all-pro, 126 catches, which is an NFL record for a tight end. Legend. 1239 receiving yards, 11 touchdowns. He just broke the record, single-season record for a tight end, Trey McBride. Trey, how you doing, bro? Yeah, man, doing good, man.

1:11:29Sauce Gardner:Appreciate y 'all, man. This will be dope. Listen.

1:11:32Shannon Sharpe:Let's go and get it back. Madden, you're here for the Madden, right? Yes, sir. So talk to us about it.

1:11:37Sauce Gardner:Just, you know, obviously a great game. Madden, you know, obviously love playing, man. And what do I got to do to get one more point, man? I'm a 98, man.

1:11:44Trevor Lawrence:You're probably going to be a 98. I'm going to sit together with my team. We're going to discuss because obviously you should be a 99, which you were able to do this season. So, tremendous.

1:11:52Sauce Gardner:Yeah, we're going to have to sit down and talk about that. I got you. Have a deep conversation about that. I want them gold shoes in that chain. I need that chain.

1:12:00Trevor Lawrence:That kind of conversation isn't even deep. It's more so common sense.

1:12:04Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

1:12:05Sauce Gardner:Common sense.

1:12:05Trevor Lawrence:I got you.

1:12:06Shannon Sharpe:The number's talking, man. Yes, sir. Let's make it happen.

1:12:08Trevor Lawrence:Yes, sir.

1:12:09Shannon Sharpe:You had an unbelievable season, obviously. you had an individual great season, not the team success that you had hoped for. Your head coach got relieved of his duty. What do you think you guys need to do? You hired Mike LaFleur, who is an offensive coordinator at the Rams. What do you think you guys need to do in order for you to make a playoff run, to get into the playoffs and see some of this individual success that you're enjoying, let people see you on the big stage in a playoff game?

1:12:34Sauce Gardner:I think we're right there, man. We're close. We're in every single game. We're in the fourth quarter. we're you know one play here one play there and I think that's what we need man we just need that one play uh to get us over the edge man we're right there we just got to finish games and last year we just weren't finishing games good enough and uh I think we're going to just finish games this year and we're going to be right there in that conversation how's the body holding up

1:12:53Trevor Lawrence:after having a season like that having that amount of catches going through that kind of punishment

1:12:57Sauce Gardner:how's the body holding up so far yeah I feel great man feel really good man I wish I was still playing you know I feel good enough to keep playing so uh just got to keep going I'm young man just uh feeling great so just gotta build on it next year are you the best tight end in football you know it's it's i i'm a great tight end man but these no no no don't answer don't answer pc

1:13:16Trevor Lawrence:yes you are the greatest tight end in football right now it's okay it's hard because you know

1:13:21Sauce Gardner:travis george these guys been doing it for a long time and they got a body of work a log body of work and i just got i got stacked a few more years and i think we can put myself in that conversation

1:13:28Shannon Sharpe:okay the first three years of your nfl career you had six touchdowns yeah this year you break out you have 11 what what was different what clicked this year as what I mean obviously your third year you had an unbelievable season but what was it for you that totally that you were totally in sync and it seems to me that once uh Jacoby Brissett got it there he's like hey get open

1:13:50Sauce Gardner:Trey yeah I think that's exactly what it was man Jacoby was just like if it's one-on-one man the ball's coming to you I just expect the ball to come to you and uh even if it's two-on-one man the ball's coming to you so uh so Jacoby just had a lot of faith in me he had a lot of trust in me and I think that's what it was, man. He just believed in me and the opportunities kept coming and I was making plays for him.

1:14:09Shannon Sharpe:Have you had an opportunity to study the Rams offense because that's the offense that you guys are going to be running. Now, normally, that offense is predicated on the outside guys. You see Cooper Cup, you see Puka Nakua, you see Devontae Adams. It's really not tight end centric, but I like your guy. Wilson, is that his name? Yeah, Michael Wilson. He's a dog, man. I was trying to tell Ocho. Yeah, nice. But you're their best receiver. And so now you're going to have to gear an offense that's really suited to make sure you get your catches, make sure you get your target.

1:14:43Sauce Gardner:Yeah, I think the other thing about it, man, not only did they have the receivers, they led the league in 13 personnel, man, so they love the tight end. They're going to put the tight end out on the field, and they're going to throw to the tight end too. So I think that's a huge part of us. But we do have two great receivers with Marvin Harrison, Michael Wilson. Man, we've got a lot of weapons on that offense, and I'm just excited to see how Mike LaFleur is going to get all the ball, man. It's going to be a lot of fun.

1:15:04Shannon Sharpe:When you got into the league, what was your expectations? What did you hope to accomplish? Because you've had such success. You've gone to a couple of Pro Bowls, and here you are. You set the NFL record, most receiving yards in a single season by a tight end, 126, 126, almost led the league in reception. You finished three behind Puka, 126, 12, 39, and 11 touchdowns. what were your hopes when you got into the league what did you say you know what my first my first quarter my first four years in the NFL what were you hoping to accomplish you know I knew I was a

1:15:36Sauce Gardner:great player I just wanted to be a the best player that I could be I didn't know to this extent that

1:15:40Shannon Sharpe:I was gonna be as good as I did man but you get the opportunity you get a little bit of success

1:15:45Sauce Gardner:man and it's like I'm just hungry for it man I just gotta do what I did last year beat it again and now it's just a consistency being able to do it over and over and over again and I think that's what really makes a great tight end is doing it over and over again.

1:15:56Shannon Sharpe:I definitely agree with that because the thing is, is that it's easy to sneak up on someone when really people don't know who you are, but you know, when they, when defensive coordinators go into that room on Monday, they got that number circle. This is the guy that we got to neutralize. If we want to have any hopes of winning this ball game, we've got to keep this guy under control. And for you to go out there game in and game out, week in and week out and show the level of consistency in which you've done, that speaks volumes to the type of player that you are.

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1:18:25Sauce Gardner:Harder to get open now. You know, it used to be easy. And no one knew who the hell I was. I was getting wide open. And now I'm getting chipped at the line. I'm getting double teamed here and there. And I think it just means more when I catch a ball now. Because it's like I had to really work for it, man. It wasn't just schemed up. I really had to get open and work for it. I had to beat two guys instead of one, and it just means a little bit more. So now there's no secret, man. Now I've got to do it again when everyone knows who I am.

1:18:47Shannon Sharpe:When it's all said and done, how do you want your career? How do you want to be remembered? How does Trey McBride want to be remembered when it's all said and done?

1:18:56Sauce Gardner:Just as a consistent elite player, man, a guy who kind of did everything the right way, played for his teammates, and most importantly, man, did it the right way. I think that's the most thing is you don't want to cheat the game, man. You just want to keep building it and then just do it the right way,

1:19:10Shannon Sharpe:and I think that's what I'm trying to build. You know, the thing is, in your quarterback, Kyler, you've been there, he's been there your entire time, and there's a stretch that he might be leaving, he might be traded, and now some of that's been taken back, that there's a chance that he might stay there. Are you okay with that? Or you think you guys, Kyler's kind of got nicked, but you had great seasons under Kyler. I mean, it just skyrocketed. It just skyrocketed with Jacoby.

1:19:35Sauce Gardner:Yeah, man, I love Kyler, man. He's a tremendous player, a guy who can make all the off-schedule plays, man. He can do it all. So I love everything about him, and I'd love to have him back as a quarterback because, obviously, we've got a great chemistry. I know exactly what he's thinking. But, you know, whoever's back there slinging it, man, I'm going to get open for him, and we're going to make it happen, baby.

1:19:53Shannon Sharpe:So we can pencil you in. 130 next year? Yeah, 130, and just add one or two to all those. Because, you know, okay, you already got the record, so you might as well try to get, I think, Kelsey. Kelsey got over 1 ,400, so you've got to get that one. And I think Bronc has like 17, 17. 16, 17. Yeah, so I got some work to do, no doubt.

1:20:11Trevor Lawrence:All you got to do is start off early. You start off early those first five weeks and just cruise the rest of the season with the touchdown TDs, you're a beautiful touchdown. I don't know.

1:20:18Shannon Sharpe:You get 130-plus, 1 ,500 yards, and 16 touchdowns, you might be the first tight end to win an MVP. Oh, yeah. With those kind of numbers, man. Congratulations, Grace. Appreciate you, man. Thank you. Appreciate you guys. Yes, sir. All-pro, first-team, all-pro tight end, Trey McBride from the Arizona Cardinals. Thanks for joining me. Appreciate you, bro. Yes, sir. Oh, man. I like that, Jack.

1:20:42Trevor Lawrence:Can you believe, Ocho, 126 catches? That's crazy. As a tight end. Tight end. We're not talking about a receiver. You know, a volume-catching tight end. That's dope. That's a testament to how good he is, though.

1:20:55Shannon Sharpe:That's damn near 40 more catches than I've ever had in the season. That's 39 more catches than I have.

1:20:59Trevor Lawrence:I have a question, though. What is the difference when Kyler Murray is a quarterback as opposed to when Jacoby Brissett came in and all of a sudden his numbers, it skyrocketed rocket and being able to show what he can potentially do.

1:21:11Shannon Sharpe:What you got?

1:21:13Trevor Lawrence:Who wins the matchup? Jackson, Smith, and Jigba or Christian Gonzalez?

1:21:19Shannon Sharpe:I don't think they put Christian in a situation where he's covering him. Especially in the slot. In the slot, hell no.

1:21:25Trevor Lawrence:Yeah, and I think Christian, does Christian even travel?

1:21:28Shannon Sharpe:I don't think so.

1:21:29Trevor Lawrence:And another thing too, Chad, when it comes to that matchup, I love where we're getting caught up in the names and how good Christian Gonzalez is, but we also understand what Kubiak does, with Jackson Smith and Jigba. He's not going to put him out there on the island anyway. No. They use him in a multitude of ways, put him in motion, condenser splits. Hell, he coming out the backfield, as we just saw two weeks ago when he scored a touchdown on the scissors route. So there'll be so many ways they're moving around where he's not stuck, you know, in having to deal with him one-on-one.

1:21:56Shannon Sharpe:So, yeah, I don't see a situation where he's going to be one-on-one with Jackson Smith and Jigba. I mean, even wherever they find it, They're going to obviously have eyes on him, both eyes on him. My man.

1:22:12Trevor Lawrence:Hey, let me come all the way around.

1:22:17Shannon Sharpe:We got Stephen A. Smith coming to the set today.

1:22:25Stephen A. Smith:What's up, yo?

1:22:25Shannon Sharpe:How you doing, my man? What's going on, man? Man, I'm doing great. I'm doing good. How you been?

1:22:29Stephen A. Smith:You know, I'm kind of recovering because somebody had me at a party last night. You know what I'm saying? And so, I mean, yeah, I know you do. You always do that.

1:22:37Shannon Sharpe:I do that. You always do that. People say, well, how the hoes leave? I said, easy. I just walked up out of there. I mean, that thing didn't close. Hey, I had to get up out of there.

1:22:45Stephen A. Smith:I had an early day and I got a long day tonight. But how you doing, bro? I'm doing all right, man. It's good to see y 'all, man. Proud of y 'all as always doing y 'all thing. I watch y 'all when I can, especially nightcap, you know, doing y 'all things. I said, my boy just making noise and stuff. Winning, you know, winning top 10 across the board. Handling this business. Y 'all don't mind saying that. And I've been in it as long as he has. In the podcast world and all that, I have my feelings hurt. I feel like he's kicking my ass. But I'm like, nah, he's a pioneer. I'm following him.

1:23:13Shannon Sharpe:So I'm good with it. I'm good with it. So what you've been like? Go ahead, Ocho.

1:23:17Trevor Lawrence:I'm going to say, I want to talk a little basketball. I know he knows. He has the knowledge. He's in the game, understands the game. He can hear some of the things that we can't hear in the background. Giannis and Ja. Is there a move for those two before today's, before the 4 o 'clock deadline?

1:23:32Stephen A. Smith:It's highly unlikely. It's highly unlikely. It's still possible, but highly unlikely. Giannis has four calf injuries since over the last 19 months. Now, I'm a Knicks fan. Yes. So, long-suffering, diehard Knicks fan. And I'm sitting up there, yeah, you saw, oh, I still remember how you always tease me about that. Oh, my goodness, don't get me started with him. But the thing about it is this. I'm like, go get him. Go get Giannis. Go get Giannis. And then the calf injuries came. I was like, wait a minute now. I mean, wait a minute now, because here's the reason why. really hurt, Stephen A. I'm going to tell you why you get nervous.

1:24:04Stephen A. Smith:I'm going to tell you why you get nervous. KD, calf injury, before the torn Achilles. You see what happened last year. Halliburton, Tatum, Damian Lillard. You get nervous. And so the worst thing that could happen to the New York Knicks, you're going to have to trade at least two players and a couple of picks. And if you do that, and then Giannis can't go. Oh, what a disaster. I can't have that.

1:24:24Shannon Sharpe:And you're going to want a MAAC extension this summer, too. That's right.

1:24:26Stephen A. Smith:And so I worry about that. In the case of John Morant, here's my problem. First of all, all of these cats that want to get on him for his troubles from years ago, stop that. Right. Just stop that. You know, he's young, made a mistake. Let it go. Damn, let it go. But here's what you can hold against him. I see no change in his game. I see no change in his game. No evolving. No, no, no, no evolving. You shoot 23 % for three-point range. Do you know that that's the second worst three-point shooter in the NBA right now? Hold on, Stephen A. I'm just saying. At the second level and when it's time to drive, that's where he makes his head.

1:24:59Stephen A. Smith:But what I'm saying to you is the way the game is now, you've got to be able to be a perimeter threat. So he can give you 18 to 20 a night with ease. The problem is to get you to the next level, you've got to be able to hit from a way to pass. Especially with him being as slim as he is. Yes. You've got to be able to get a guard. You can't shoot 23 % as a guard. You can't shoot 23 % for a three-point range. You can't do that. And so when I'm looking at him, maybe it's because of the distractions. Maybe it's because of the money you got comfortable. But I'm not seeing any evolving in your game. Okay.

1:25:34Stephen A. Smith:And that's what I'm worried about. Not that he can't play.

1:25:37Trevor Lawrence:I know where he can evolve. I know where he can evolve. Where? Coming on down at a structured environment where discipline is concerned in Miami.

1:25:44Stephen A. Smith:I don't mind that. I told you. But wait a minute. But at the expense of whom? Because I ain't letting go of Tyler Hero for him. What? You know what? Let me tell you why. Tyler Hero can shoot. He can spread the floor. if John can't shoot then how that's going to help Bam? How that's going to help Kalil Ware? How that's going to help these other cats? You need to have somebody that can shoot from the outside to keep you honest so when you come out there to defend them it gives your big some space. You can't have a cat that's got to go to the hole. Listen remember when Ben Simmons was playing? This is an all time play.

1:26:18Stephen A. Smith:I'll never get as long as I live. Carmelo Anthony is guarding Ben Simmons and then it's like a light bulb flashes. He said, what the hell am I doing? And turned his back to Ben Simmons and sprinted to the paint. He said, what am I guarding him out there for? He'll never shoot that. You see what I'm saying? You gotta make somebody respect you enough to guard you away from the basket.

1:26:42Shannon Sharpe:This game. Everybody, I mean, only one player and Jaden Daniels and Connor from Threads were the only two people that we've had come across this desk and pick the Patriots to win this game. Yeah.

1:26:56Stephen A. Smith:It ain't going to be me. It ain't going to be me. I ain't picking no damn Patriots. I ain't saying that right now. Hey, hey, hey, hey. I hope that's not what you were leading to.

1:27:03Shannon Sharpe:I'm going to pick them. It's true. So right now it's 10 to 2. Everybody else that's coming up here to talk to Osho and I. Right. It's 10 to 2 Seattle to win over the Patriots.

1:27:13Stephen A. Smith:Then I'm 11? Yes. Yeah, I'm 11. Yeah, I'm 11. I'm 11.

1:27:16Shannon Sharpe:What is it about the Seahawks that you love? They're the most complete team.

1:27:21Stephen A. Smith:New England went against the Chargers, damn good defense. Yeah. They went against Houston, elite defense. They went against Denver Broncos, 68 sacks, four shy of the all-time record. I know you know it by the Broncos. None of them were considered number one. It was Seattle. Right. That's the defense you got to go against. Then I'm looking at the Patriots offense that's only giving you 18 points per game in the postseason. Now, I understand the blizzard in Denver in the second half. Yeah. Right? But how do you explain the first four possessions? You had three and outs in the first half. How do you explain the fact that you were struggling, really, to score against Houston?

1:27:54Stephen A. Smith:How do you explain the fact that you were struggling to score against the Chargers? But I'm supposed to believe you're going to score against Seattle? And then when I think about Njegba, I'm like, who the— He ain't stronger, bigger, faster than nobody, but you can't stop him. He was doing—he was wreaking havoc at Ohio State. Now look what he's doing in Seattle. That's why you let go of T.K. Metcalf as your number one option, because you could afford, and this brother been playing lights out. Sam Donald suddenly looked like an all-world quarterback. You know, Kenneth Walker, everybody talking about Sharpe that's being out, but let me tell you something about Kenneth Walker.

1:28:24Stephen A. Smith:He did rush for over 1 ,000 yards. He did average 4.6 yards a carry. I'm like, how are we sleeping on him? We can't sleep on these brothers. I just think they're the most complete team, and I think the only shot New England has of winning this Super Bowl, they have to hold Seattle to 20 points or less because I don't see them scoring more than 20.

1:28:45Shannon Sharpe:They're going to have coaxing turnovers. That's right. Now, Sam Darnold's been great in the postseason. He's taking care of the football. As long as he doesn't revert back to what we think and what we've seen him be, Stephen A., I think they'll be fine. But you know, go back and look at every team in the playoffs. Whoever's turned the ball over the most, they went home. Okay. That's true. Oh, by the way, Drake made six times three lost fumbles.

1:29:12Stephen A. Smith:Yes. Sacked five times each game. Oh, so y 'all ain't even protecting them. And by the way, you see how Seattle gets to the ball? You see how they say? So you can run with the football, and he's shown that he can do that, particularly on first and second down. They use him on first and second down. So I get that part, but I'm like this. That ain't going to work against Seattle. I can't see that happening. The only way is if Drake, all of a sudden, with Booty and Diggs, is flinging that damn football, and all of a sudden, and we watching these cats throw to them football. If I see that, that will change my mind.

1:29:44Stephen A. Smith:I can't see it happening.

1:29:45Shannon Sharpe:But the secondary for Seattle is so good. You've got Spoon and Wollin. Exactly. Emanuari. They're really good. Defensive line with D-Law and Leonard Williams and those guys. They're really good. Ernest Jones, the fourth. He's been a steal. He's been exceptional.

1:30:03Stephen A. Smith:And then people are pointing to L.A. You scored 38 against them in the regular season in the overtime loss when they lost 38-37. They gave up 27 to L.A. in the playoffs. And I'm going like this. That was Puka Nakua out there catching that day of ball.

1:30:16Shannon Sharpe:And Devontae.

1:30:17Stephen A. Smith:You ain't got that on New England? No. I respect the hell out of Booty and Diggs, but you ain't that dude.

1:30:23Shannon Sharpe:No. I'm not. You're not that dude. That's where I'm at with it. And I like Drake May, but for me, and I don't have a vote, but if I had a vote, I'd vote for Matthew Stafford for MVP. Easy. Matthew Stafford for MVP.

1:30:34Stephen A. Smith:The only problem I like, see, here's the problem I have with Shannon Sharp. you know, let's say Ocho. This, he had this problem all the damn time. It's okay to say, Stephen A, you're right, I agree with you. See, he's trying to say, he was listening to me, he was listening to me say that. You understand? He was listening to me say Stafford the damn MVP. Yeah, yeah, he is. You know what I'm saying? But he'll say it, he'll just say it without saying it. No,

1:30:56Shannon Sharpe:but you know, but you know there have been some that said Drake made. Yeah, no, I don't, listen,

1:31:04Stephen A. Smith:the Drake made problem in all seriousness, New England had the weakest schedule since 1999. The weakest schedule in the NFL since 1999. That's what the stats show. Then you got the charges. You're depleted at your offensive line with two pro bowlers out. Slater and all. You go against Houston. Nico Collins is out. Schultz goes down in the second quarter. You go up against Denver. You got Jared Stidham, a backup quarterback who had to throw. Not only is he a backup quarterback, he ain't throw a pass since 2023. Okay? And then on top of the... It looked like it. And on top of the... a blizzard came.

1:31:36Stephen A. Smith:Yeah. I mean, come on. You get a lot of luck.

1:31:39Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. A lot of luck. But you know sometimes, Stephen, things have to go your way. That's fair.

1:31:43Stephen A. Smith:You know what I'm saying? Things have to go your way. That's fair. But usually that's not what goes down in the Super Bowl. No. Usually in the Super Bowl, it's about your skill. Yeah. And your will.

1:31:54Shannon Sharpe:In a game like the Super Bowl, you're going to get two momentum swings. Only two.

1:31:59Trevor Lawrence:It's going to happen.

1:31:59Shannon Sharpe:Whoever gets the momentum first, how much separation can you put between you and the team that doesn't have the momentum?

1:32:07Stephen A. Smith:See, it's interesting. I love that question. Because I think that if you're New England, you got to have a 10-point cushion.

1:32:13Shannon Sharpe:I don't think that's enough. That's it?

1:32:15Stephen A. Smith:And I'm saying, I don't think you're going to get the cushion. That's my point. I don't think you're getting the cushion. I don't think that's enough.

1:32:20Shannon Sharpe:Because we've seen Seattle come back from playing the Rams. The Rams had what?

1:32:27Stephen A. Smith:Yeah, but the Rams' defense wasn't New England's. That's the only thing. New England can get stops. Rams couldn't get no stops. That's the problem. But the question is, New England's offense ain't the Rams' offense. That's right. That's what I'm saying. That's why I don't have them winning.

1:32:45Shannon Sharpe:That's why I don't have them winning. That's the problem. They can run the ball. I like Henderson. I like Stevenson. They can run the football.

1:32:54Stephen A. Smith:But, oof. Everybody said, I picked a score, a final score of 31-20. And everybody was looking at me, and they said, well, you've been bringing up the defense. Why you got them scoring 31 points? And I said because I think they're going to get too many bites at the apple because New England's offense isn't going to be able to do but so much. So if you have the defense out on the field enough, eventually they're going to wear out. They're going to break. They're going to break.

1:33:19Shannon Sharpe:I think it might be a lower score than that. I might go 24 to 16.

1:33:24Stephen A. Smith:Think so? I got 31-20. I got 31-20.

1:33:28Trevor Lawrence:I can see 30 points simply because the high volume of scoring that Seattle continues to do regardless of who they play.

1:33:33Stephen A. Smith:By the way, did your boy tell you he hooked me up with his boyfriend's glasses? And I went and got the glasses. I bought a bunch of them. Oh, you got that in Miami? No, no, no. He got me with the cap. The Cartier. He got me with the cap. I saw him on NICAD. And I was like this. I need a few of those. I need a few of those. So I went and got them. I went and got them. You stay in for the... No, you leave on Sunday morning, right? I'm leaving on Sunday. Probably Saturday. You having a good time? Man, shoot. Thanks to you. That party last night was no joke, my brother. I mean, I... Where you over?

1:34:05Stephen A. Smith:So when I come down to Miami, I don't want to hear nothing. I don't want to hear nothing. There ain't going to be no party. I ain't throwing no party. Oh, that's right.

1:34:12Trevor Lawrence:I forgot you down there. Hey, we got to go to dinner. I got it. I'm going to tell you where we go. Okay. That's cool. We good. I'll take you up on it now. Okay. I'll take you up on it. I'm serious.

1:34:20Stephen A. Smith:I'm dead serious. You know, you're coming to Vegas. I got you, right? Such a lying ass. You're lying his ass off. I mean, this cat man... I mean, Shannon, I can't find Shannon half the damn time I'm in Vegas. You good? You good? What do you mean I'm good? I've been calling you for hours. Where you at? You know? I can't catch him. You know? Hey, man, I'll be in the bed, Stevie. I'll be sleeping. I ain't mad at you, but I'm telling you this. Listen, I love living in Florida. He just loves it.

1:34:46Trevor Lawrence:Hey, hold on. You don't smoke cigars, huh? No, not really, but I smoked a few.

1:34:51Stephen A. Smith:Okay. I mean, I remember one time, last time, it's been years, actually. Last time I smoked a cigar, I was in a cigar bar with Michael Stray. Okay. You know what I'm saying? But, I mean, I smoked a few. I mean, because it's cool. Yeah. It's cool. Well, I'm coming out there. Me and you and Ochoa, we going to get a bite to eat.

1:35:05Shannon Sharpe:That's it. Go to dinner. I just want to go get a bite to eat. I just want to go get a bite to eat. That's it. We ain't going to go nowhere else? I want to go get a bite to eat. No, no, no, no. Hold on.

1:35:18Stephen A. Smith:We ain't going to go nowhere else? No. We might want to think that. We might want to think that. I mean, there's a couple of spots that I can. I don't want to go. Yeah. I'll tell you what I do. I'll tell you what I do. What? I'll take you to a spot to eat, but it ain't just about eating it. You know what I'm saying? It's all in one. It's all in one. I'll take you to the spot. Why can't I get friends that support me?

1:35:44Chad Johnson:Why can't I get friends that support me?

1:35:45Stephen A. Smith:We are supporting you. We're looking out for you. I mean, we're looking out for you. We really are. We really are. You know what I'm saying? I mean, we really are. We got you covered.

1:35:54Shannon Sharpe:You understand what I'm saying? Why do I need any other type of friends when I'm trying?

1:35:58Trevor Lawrence:It's okay to live. You're not living. You're alive, but you're not living. I continue to tell you that.

1:36:03Stephen A. Smith:You're going home. You're working and going home. You're working from home half the time and stuff like that. I bet there's days that go by that you don't leave the house. I'm willing to bet that. If I don't go work out, yes. See? Yes. Work out? You mean you don't have a gym in your house? I do. You're Shannon Sharp. I got two gyms in my house. All right, then. So why do you got to go to work out?

1:36:22Shannon Sharpe:But, you know, I like— You like to mingle? No. If I don't leave my house to go work out, I would literally be in my house two, three weeks at a time.

1:36:33Stephen A. Smith:I could never do that. Now, I've improved. I could stay in the house for a couple of days, two or three days without moving. Especially the crib I got now.

1:36:40Shannon Sharpe:When COVID happened, I ain't missing me. You ain't got to go nowhere? Perfect.

1:36:49Trevor Lawrence:Wow. I got to leave the house. I got to go. I got to go out.

1:36:53Stephen A. Smith:You got to eat. You got to walk around. You got to feel the fresh air outside. You got to do that. I don't give a damn if it's me getting in my car to drive to the damn store or something. Just to get out and feel the breeze.

1:37:04Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, get to your car and drive to the store in Miami. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:37:08Stephen A. Smith:That's my story. I'm sticking to it. That's my story. I'm sticking to it. I'm telling you that right now. I mean, that's what it is. That's what it is. It is lovely, man. You know, when we say Miami, let's be very clear. We're not really talking about Miami. We talk about all its surrounding parts. Yes. Oh. Yes. All the stuff around within the 30 to 45 minute radius. All around it. You understand? All around it. Beautiful, ain't it? From Lauderdale to Coral Gables. Las Olas. It's just, oh, beautiful. This guy here, man. It's just a special thing.

1:37:39Trevor Lawrence:You got to come on down.

1:37:40Shannon Sharpe:I'm coming down, man, but I told you what I wanted.

1:37:44Stephen A. Smith:And my crib, very private. Private. You ain't got to worry about nothing. You got worried about being found. I'm trying to tell you I'm trying to tell you ain't got to worry about nothing you go to the noise It ain't at your doorstep. Oh That's the key. That's the key Don't go to the you don't have the noise at your doorstep right go to it like that way you can stay away from it When it's time

1:38:08Shannon Sharpe:I'm trying to tell you Stephen a Smith ladies and gentlemen. Thank you, man. Congratulations on everything man I appreciate y 'all, man. Hey, the serious show, the Stephen A. Smith show, the big deal at ESPN, you got, hey, bro, appreciate it. Hey. Appreciate you. And I want to tell you. Yes, sir. I appreciate the support. Because when a lot of people ran away, you ran to me. Now, hell no. And I appreciate that.

1:38:30Stephen A. Smith:And I hope you keep them away. No, they don't. And it was no excuse for people to be that way. Yeah. I saw you. You know I saw you. You and I talk all the time. Yep. You know what I'm saying? Yep. I got a number of love for y 'all. Yeah. Both of y 'all. Proud of both of y 'all. Keep doing what you think. When you up here. They was with you. You know? Exactly. And then something happened and what you do. You just sat up there and you forgot that that was supposed to be your boy. Yes, sir. Because they was never your boy. You're right. They were never your boy. Still on the kick rocks.

1:38:58Shannon Sharpe:Yep. With no shoe on.

1:38:59Stephen A. Smith:Damn right.

1:39:00Shannon Sharpe:Appreciate it, bro. Have the best. All right. Juvie. Appreciate it. Say bye. All right, guys. Thank you for joining us for another. Call me. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap Radio Row. It's been a great two days. Thank you, guys, for tuning in. We really, really appreciate it. We want to thank all the guests that stopped by and gave us a little bit of their time. We really, really appreciate that. But y 'all know who I am. I'm your favorite, Unc. This is my partner and co-host, and we're signing off. We'll see you tonight at Nightcap Live. Thank you, guys, again.

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