In short
Debate over Ben Roethlisberger’s claim that Aaron Rodgers in his prime was better than Patrick Mahomes in his prime; Mahomes’ stance on expanding the NFL to 18 regular-season games; labor/contract talk about guaranteed money and rookie holds; plus NFL offseason/health notes including Christian McCaffrey’s bounce-back and Najee Harris’ injury.
Guest backgrounds
No clear guest list is provided in the transcript. The episode features recurring hosts/speakers, including references to Ben Roethlisberger and Kyle Juszczyk (quoted), plus discussion of NFLPA/CBA and various players (Mahomes, Rodgers, McCaffrey, Harris, Dallas Turner).
Key claims
Ben argues Rodgers’ prime was among the best ever and that Mahomes is “entering out of his prime,” while the hosts strongly disagree, citing postseason records and Mahomes’ ability to elevate any roster. Mahomes is “not a big fan” of 18 games without more bye weeks due to injury risk. The show argues guaranteed contracts should be achievable via player leverage/strikes, and that teams will replace holdouts.
Notable examples
Mahomes postseason 17-4 with 3 Super Bowls vs Rodgers 12-10 with 1 Super Bowl; Juszczyk on McCaffrey’s health after Achilles/PCL issues; Texans’ Jaden Higgins reportedly getting the first fully guaranteed second-round deal; Dallas Turner’s $240k phone scam; Najee Harris’ superficial eye injury after fireworks.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOBen Roethlisberger's Controversial Opinion
0:00 to 0:34
Discussion on Ben Roethlisberger's pick between Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes.
“When you're moving like I do, you don't always get a lot of lead time.”
Ben Roethlisberger's Controversial Opinion
2:11 to 4:12
Discussion on Ben Roethlisberger's pick between Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes.
“Ben Roethlisberger felt compelled to recently weigh in on whether he'd rather have Aaron Rodgers or Patrick Mahomes on his team.”
Comparative Analysis of Quarterbacks
4:12 to 6:45
A deep dive comparing the playoff performances of Rodgers and Mahomes.
“Aaron Rodgers in 22 postseason games is 12-10 with one Super Bowl win.”
The Evolution of Quarterback Performance
6:45 to 11:04
Discussion on how older quarterbacks adapt and the impact on their teams.
“And you're saying, now let this sink in.”
Mahomes on NFL Expansion
11:04 to 14:00
Patrick Mahomes expresses concerns over expanding the NFL regular season.
“And you see, but after that Super Bowl, you see Tom threw for what?”
The Challenge of Legacy in Sports
14:00 to 14:40
Discussion on former players' legacies and the desire for recognition.
“because as far as I'm concerned, I'm one.”
Mahomes on NFL Season Expansion
14:40 to 15:14
Patrick Mahomes expresses concerns about the potential 18-game NFL season.
“Patrick Mahomes says he's not a big fan of potentially expanding to NFL regular season to 18 games.”
The Future of NFL Broadcasts and Streaming
18:09 to 22:01
Discussion on the potential shift of NFL broadcasting to streaming platforms.
“And let me tell you how it's going to come.”
The Economics of NFL Expansion
22:01 to 26:54
Exploring the financial implications and player contracts in the NFL.
“They got unlimited resources I'm not the one that said it I'm not the one that said, but I was in a meeting.”
Player Power and Collective Action
26:54 to 28:00
Discussion about the power of NFL players to unite for better contracts.
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Players and the Fight for Guaranteed Contracts
28:00 to 34:02
Discussing the struggle of NFL players for guaranteed contracts and the history of strikes.
“But the realization of everybody buying in and understanding for the greater good, and not just you, but everybody that's going to come after you, somebody's going to have to take a stand.”
Christian McCaffrey's Potential Comeback
34:02 to 36:50
Analyzing Christian McCaffrey's health and potential impact on the 49ers' season.
“the first fully guaranteed second-round rookie deal ever.”
Najee Harris Fireworks Injury
42:55 to 44:12
Discussion about Najee Harris's eye injury from a fireworks incident.
“after fireworks mishap at the 4th of July event last week.”
Ocho's Eye Injury Story
44:12 to 47:15
Ocho shares a personal story about his eye injury and challenges faced.
“Hey, anything that cannot be replaced, I don't be fooling around with that.”
Betting and Financial Transactions
47:15 to 48:58
Light-hearted conversation about bets, money, and fun anecdotes.
“no that ain't enough hold on i got hey i got i got 50 000 for you right here I got you, baby.”
Uno in Casinos Discussion
48:58 to 52:20
The hosts discuss the introduction of Uno in casinos and its implications.
Dallas Turner's Phone Scam Incident
52:20 to 55:45
Discussion about Dallas Turner falling victim to a phone scam and the implications.
“Vikings linebacker Dallas Turner reportedly fell victim to a phone scam that cost him a staggering$240 ,000.”
Mark Andrews' Playoff Performance
55:45 to 56:00
Analysis of Mark Andrews' struggles and his mindset moving forward.
“So if somebody's stealing it out of that, y 'all responsible for it.”
Mark Andrews' Playoff Performance and Outlook
56:00 to 1:02:01
Discussion on Mark Andrews' critical playoff mistakes and his potential for redemption next season.
“of even believing any phone call, any text message.”
Exciting News from the Onvitational
1:02:01 to 1:03:00
Breaking news about the launch of the Onvitational event and what to expect.
“Today's hottest sports story is presented by On Nicotine Pouches.”
Exciting News from the Onvitational
1:03:05 to 1:03:31
Breaking news about the launch of the Onvitational event and what to expect.
“Why does being around your family make you regress into your worst self?”
Transcript
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2:11Ocho:Ben Roethlisberger felt compelled to recently weigh in on whether he'd rather have Aaron Rodgers or Patrick Mahomes on his team. Well, I would take Aaron in his prime over Patrick now. I think Aaron Rodgers' prime was one of the few to ever do it, and so Patrick is at his prime. Patrick Mahomes is just entering out of his prime, I think. Does Ben realize how utterly ridiculous he sounds? Yeah, yeah, but obviously you know he's going to go with someone a little bit closer. A contemporary. Right, exactly. Someone a little closer to him despite the success, the early success in an early career that Patrick Mahomes has had.
2:50Obviously, Ben knows how great Pat is, but obviously Aaron Rodgers was special despite not being able to have the number of Super Bowls, only having one. But if you look at Aaron Rodgers' numbers in his prime, it's unbelievable. Yeah. It's unbelievable despite him not being able to win the big games consistently like Patrick Mahomes has done. So I thought that was the objective because people make it seem like Aaron Rodgers did not have good teams.
3:18Ocho:Go back and look at the receivers that he had. Go back and look at the receivers that he had and go back and look at, do you believe the last three Super Bowls, Aaron Rodgers could have got that receiving group to the Super Bowl? Consider he could only get to the Super Bowl one time with Jordy Nelson, with Greg Jennings, with Donald Driver, with James Jones, with Jermichael Friendly. So do you believe he could take that group that Patrick Mahomes took? he couldn't even get that man couldn't be jimmy garoppolo but somehow he gonna get to and he gonna win a subo yeah i mean the mvps are impressive chat y 'all know i've been one of the biggest one of the loudest aaron rogers fans he's phenomenal he was phenomenal but to base it on Patrick Mahomes.
4:10Ocho:Patrick Mahomes in 21 postseason games is 17-4. Three Super Bowl wins. Aaron Rodgers in 22 postseason games is 12-10 with one Super Bowl win. Look at the guys that he's lost to.
4:30Ocho:Tom Brady beat him twice. Joe Burrow beat him. Now Jalen Hurts beat him. Go look at the guys that beat Aaron Rodgers in a playoff game.
4:44Ocho:The matter of fact, the man got beat by Jimmy G. Twice. Hold on. Jimmy G had a nice squad around him now. He had a nice squad around him, and all Jimmy G had to do, Jimmy, don't mess it up. I tell you what. Take the ball. Don't mess it up. Give Patrick Mahomes that squad. Give Patrick. Okay, if I give Patrick Mahomes that squad, what you think? You think Aaron Rodgers beating Patrick? he gonna beat Patrick Mahomes with that squad? Because you say Jimmy G. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You put Mahomes around any team. Yes! Listen, Mahomes is one of the few quarterbacks, you can put him on any team and it elevates everyone else around him.
5:21Yes. Elevates everyone else around him because he's just that good. Not only physically, but he gonna beat you here too. Yes! I mean, bro, he beat Jay Cutler.
5:35Ocho:Jay Cutler got hurt and got on the stationary bike. He thought he was at a Tour de France, so he didn't want to play football no more. He just wanted to ride the stationary bike. Look, I mean, you beat who you beat to get to the Super Bowl. But I, look, this has been Roethlisberger's opinion, but I vehemently disagree with this. Yeah. Vehemently. And I think the thing is, he's basing it on MVPs. He's basing it on MVPs. And Aaron Rodgers has four. Yeah. But look at those great seasons that came out to be duds. See, the thing is that, Ocho, can you do, if you've got a great offense, can you get done?
6:12Ocho:Can you score a point when you need to?
6:16Ocho:If you're a great defense, can you get a stop when you need to? Can you get off the field on third down? Can you get your offense the ball back? Can you not let them flip the field? You got them backed up. Can you make them stay there and not flip the field? Get the ball to midfield and then punt it and pin you down inside the five. Can you do that? Aaron Rodgers has four regular season MVPs, one Super Bowl, a Super Bowl MVP. Patrick Mahomes has two Super Bowl, has two MVPs, three Super Bowl MVPs. He's been to five. Right. And you're saying, now let this sink in. The man has already been to more Super Bowls, has more regular season, has more postseason wins, has more, has more MVPs, and he's not even 30.
7:00Yeah. And I think there's more to it than that. Obviously, we don't know what Ben is indicating why he picked Aaron Rodgers, but also I want people not to forget how special Aaron Rodgers was as well. This is what Ben said. And I'll get that he was as a quarterback.
7:16Ocho:Oh, he was as physically gifted at throwing the football. In general. He and Dan, I'm talking about just pure throws of the football. Aaron Rodgers, Dan Marino, take your pick. But this is what he said, Ocho. I think Aaron in his prime was one of the top few to ever do it. And so Patrick at his prime, Patrick Mahomes is just entering out of his prime. So in other words, he said Aaron was one of the top to do it, but Patrick isn't. Because what he said, what he said? He said, I think Aaron Rodgers in his prime was one of the top to ever do it. So by what his word says, if Patrick Mahomes is coming out of his prime, he wasn't one of the top to ever do it?
7:59Yeah.
8:00Ocho:So from 23 to 39, he goes to five Super Bowls, wins three, three MVPs, two regular season MVPs, two 5 ,000-yard seasons, and a 50-touchdown season. But he ain't one of the top – who would not want to top you to ever do it. Now, Chad, do y 'all see how utterly ridiculous that sounds? Now, I hope we got this right. Let's just make sure we got this right. Double-check that. Well, I would take Aaron in his prime over Patrick. Now, I think Aaron Rodgers in his prime was one of the top few to ever do it. And so is Patrick at his prime. Patrick Mahomes is just entering out of his prime, I think. So he thinks Patrick Mahomes is out of his prime now, Ojo.
8:42Yeah, I don't know. But obviously, Ben, being a quarterback that played with, not with, but against Aaron Rodgers, I think that's where he's picking him
8:55Ocho:instead of instead of yeah because i think i think ben came in in 04 and i think aaron came in in 05 so you know you see that's kind of like right right right right right right that's the error
9:10yeah i don't know about that one yeah teachers on yeah i was gonna say everyone everyone has a preference you know sometimes the goalposts move regardless of what the accolades and what someone is done there's always someone else that they like better regardless uh this is what patrick
9:28Ocho:mahomes trainer had to say to ben not everybody quits working out at 30 being
9:43he said that for real yeah okay that's my first time here that's my first time here when the trainers talk trash. I like that. I like that.
9:51Ocho:I think he commented because there was somebody, I think in the Kansas City media, talking about Patrick Mahomes and talking about his body. He looked like he eat pizza and stuff like that. I want my quarterback to look just like Patrick Mahomes. I want my quarterback to look with his shirt off, look like Tom Brady, look like Peyton Manning. That's what I want my quarterback to look like. I don't want no muscles. I don't want no muscles because I want him to be able to twist. I don't want him to just sprained straining no obliques right right right i want all that all that muscle now the shoulder that hindered right so basically you want your quarterback to look have a dad bod that's what a granddad is possible you just keep over dad granddad i like it i like it like i said look and that's not the takeaway from aaron because like i said chat y 'all know me y 'all saw me on the other show, I was and I still think Aaron Rodgers was phenomenal.
10:53Ocho:Is he what he once was? No. As we get older, as an athlete gets older, where he could elevate everybody else, now he needs help for him to elevate. Look at Tom. Right. Tom, he had, he couldn't get, he was not going to be able to get those Patriots because now he goes to Tampa and he got Godwin and he got Mike Evans And he got, he get Gronk to come back and he got other, some other weapons and he got a solid offensive line. And you see, but after that Super Bowl, you see Tom threw for what? 5 ,000 yards, but it didn't have the same oomph to it. Right. It didn't have the same, like those, like he threw for 300 yards, but the majority of the time they were playing from behind.
11:35Ocho:And so the 300 yards didn't have the same pizzazz. It didn't have the same impact. Right. Like I said, there's no denying Aaron Rodgers is a top quarterback. Wherever you want to place him, I don't think you can put him in top five because he didn't win enough championships to beat top five, especially when you're talking about Brady and you're talking about Manning and you're talking about Joe Montana and you're talking about Mahone, boy, just that alone, just that alone keeps him out. But I don't know if you can keep him out of the top ten. Because those four regular season MVPs, only Peyton Manning has more.
12:15Ocho:The touchdown to interception ratio. Yeah. I don't know how you keep them out of the top 10. Right. I don't. I'm surprised that he didn't make the 75th anniversary team. Mm-hmm. Because, you know, they tried to – they didn't want to load up in any one particular era. They can't say, well, let's take all the guys from the modern era and then we leave guys like Johnny Unitas or Otto Graham or some of these other guys out. So, you know, look, Joe, Peyton, and Tom, those three were going. They're going to be on this anniversary routine. And then they took John, they took Marino. That's five. Off the top of my head, I can't remember.
12:58Ocho:I think Johnny Unitas, I think he was there. I think Otto Graham was there at seven. Like I said, I don't really remember all of them, but I think, you know, they tried to get a mixture. They didn't want to load up and said, okay, we're just going to take the receivers from because, you know, you got to take Don Hudson. Now you leave out, you know, Charlie Hennigan, you know, Jerry and Randy. For me, I thought T.O. deserved to be on the 75th anniversary. I really did. Absolutely. We talk about top three, top two. You might not like his antics and say, okay, he killed a locker room. All I know is this.
13:31Ocho:That man got the third of the fourth most touchdowns ever. Well, he got the third most touchdowns for a receiver. See, and that's the problem that I have. It's the people that have the power, that call the shots, that control everything on who's allowed to be on this list, who's allowed to be in that. That's why I don't like the politics that come with it. I don't like the politics that come with it. Why do you think I don my own jacket? Why do you think I don my own jacket? Because I understood how it works. And I'm not going to play that game. because as far as I'm concerned, I'm one. It's one thing I don't like, and I'm going to just say this real quick.
14:11One thing I don't like about former players that had great careers and they know they've had great careers and they have their numbers. I hate the almost begging in a sense to be a part of something that was created and you have to pander to want to be in it. It's like being an actor and knowing that you have great movies, that you've had a great career doing movies, but you never won an Oscar. That doesn't take away none of the work that you've already done. That's set in stone.
14:39Ocho:All right, Ocho. Patrick Mahomes says he's not a big fan of potentially expanding to NFL regular season to 18 games. I would say more games, a little bit more taxes on the guys that play the game. If there's a way to get 18 games in the schedule, I think you have to have a way to have more bye weeks to spread it out. You've seen the amount of injuries that kind of piled up out there at the end of the season. You want to have the best players playing in the biggest game. So if there's a way to get to 18 games, I'm not a big fan of it. But if there's a way, I think you've got to add some bye weeks in there and give time for guys' body.
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16:36Ocho:Not all varieties available in all geographies. Warning, this product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical. Hey, sports fans. Your away game road trip doesn't start at the kickoff. It starts on the road. Before heading to the game in Eugene, take a moment to enjoy the journey and explore Tualatin Valley, located just west of Portland and north of Eugene. Sip world-class Pinot Noir, soak in picturesque views, and craft a game day trip you'll talk about all season. Take the scenic route to Tualatin Valley and make every mile part of the game. Learn more at etvor.com slash fans. ChatGPT can do more than answer questions.
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18:29Ocho:It's really that simple. Just like they locked them out in 2011 until the bigger piece of the pie. Yes, sir. Yeah. Well, listen, we know what else is going to happen is you already know once it's talked about, they're going to do it. Yeah. With the NFLPA And the CBA I mean the CBA Whatever CBA is Is going to come about They're going to have to have Two bye weeks I think that's something That the owners It used to have two bye weeks Oh Joe Huh It used to be two bye weeks Oh well They're going to have to They're going to have to have it Because it's too taxing On the players' bodies Yeah And obviously That's what Patton Holmes Is talking about And they're going to be Playing the Super Bowl On St.
19:05Ocho:Patrick's Day Yeah Hey but listen Oh Joe Think about it now You already the second week in February So if you add a bye week now now you got the Super Bowl. Oh, Joe you in March Yeah, yeah, and you know what the offseason gonna be shorter and shorter shorter shorter shorter But obviously we this is money. This is all about money. It's about the bottom line We know the NFL is about they're about them their money and maximizing it the best way they can and add an 18 game Is the best way to do that. Oh, Joe you 18 you want 18 games? Guarantee it I I want everything guaranteed. And I won't lie. I won't.
19:46Ocho:And if I, if I, if I, if I, first of all, if I make it five years, I want lifetime health benefits. Ooh. And I want my salary guaranteed. Now there's stories that came out that the collusion case in the junk and there's, they got verbatim that Roger Goodell was talking, saying, man, y 'all got to keep these prices down. Cause these things getting astronomical. Come back on some of that guaranteed money. I still don't understand how he said there was collusion, but they didn't show enough. I don't know. We're talking about that in a late-day time when I can read up a little bit more on it. I was just skimming through and saw that.
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20:26Ocho:But Ocho, it's coming. Yeah, absolutely. But you see how quick they went from 17 to 18? Think about how long it took them to go from 12 to 14, from 14 to 16, and from 16 to 17. it's going to take them less time to go from 16 to 18 than it did to go from 12 to 14 to 14 to 16. Well, you also have to understand, not only the salary cap keep going up, but the money got to keep coming from somewhere. Yes. You got to add games. That's the only way you can do it. That's it. They got to be able to recoup. They got to be able to make more. The only way to make more and understand the bottom line between not only sponsors, the NFL, and everyone in general, you got to add more games.
21:10That's the only way to make more money.
21:12Ocho:And let me tell you, Ocho, when this thing come back up for bid, don't be surprised if the game that you used to see it on Fox, they're on Netflix. They're on Amazon because they got way, they're sitting on hordes of money. And you see both are dipping their toe. Amazon has already gone in. They said, look, we want that Thursday night package. And now the NFL Is saying we're going to flex the Thursday night package For you Plus they got the Black Friday game Netflix You saw Netflix got the Christmas game Don't be surprised If the NFC package The AFC package or the Sunday night package Is in one of these streaming services Don't be surprised Because I'm telling you What they got They got unlimited resources I'm not the one that said it I'm not the one that said, but I was in a meeting.
22:09I was in a meeting. I can say this, you know, and I talked to brother Jeff Bezos. And he's going to be the one. He's going to be the one that's going to make the moves and pull the strings. They have most of the games on his platform. I'm just telling you before it even happens.
22:27Ocho:Yeah, I know. Because Netflix, hey, like I said, look, I understand it. And it's been traditions because CBS has had a package. everybody's had the package gave it up and got it back Fox became a network because they got football CBS gave it up NBC gave it up they got it back then NBC said you know we can't do without it we got to get back into it but I'm telling you what's going to happen I'm telling you what's going to happen and you already saw what Amazon played for the NBA if they're playing that for the NBA what the hell would they play for the NFL? They'd play for the NFL, yeah. Yeah. Owners getting a piece of that now.
23:11Ocho:Huh? You don't think that... Everybody getting a check cut for$300 million. $300 plus. And I ain't sold no ticket. I ain't sold no concession. I ain't sold no parking. I haven't sold local TV. Yeah. And I haven't sold local advertising. Huh? And then guess what they have at SoFi? The Olympics, that's where the opening ceremony is going to be held in SoFi. The World Cup, aren't they playing some of them games in SoFi? Oh, yeah, absolutely. Wasn't Beyonce just out there for a week? Taylor Swift was out there for a week. Man. Hey, Stan, right? Stan making a killing over there. Huh? That's what the whole thing.
24:02Ocho:You got to own the building. Because when you own the building now, hey, didn't they have national championship games out there? Absolutely. Hey, the Georgia Dome. Don't they have – what they have there? SEC championship. They have the college football playoffs. One of the games be there. The national championship game is there. Beyonce coming. As a matter of fact, I talked to my daughter. She might be coming this week. What? Beyonce coming where? Atlanta. To my daddy, you know anybody? No. I don't know anybody that know Beyonce. I do not. I ain't even know you, baby. Don't even know. I don't.
24:41Ocho:I don't. Because I don't know nobody. I mean, what, you want me to lie? Right. Ah, yeah, you know your daddy. You know your daddy pulled some strings for you. You know your daddy can't pull no strings. The only strings your daddy can pull is tighten your shoes up. They're the only strings I got for you. But, nah. But it's happening, no, Joe. It's going to happen. I think I was reading in 2029, they could opt out. we're going to opt out. So if I'm the NFL, if I'm the players right now, or I'm saving my money, because I know, especially if I'm a young player, or I'm saving my no-cho, because I know they're going to put the squeeze on me.
25:14Yeah, even though they put a squeeze, this is the problem. This is the problem with the player. It's so many of them.
25:21Ocho:Yes, and everybody ain't going to, because see, they look at it like you think, I know what you're about to say. Talk to me. Because everybody ain't going to be Patrick Mahomes and make Joe Burrow and them type money. Bingo. It's the guys that say, man, please, I got me three or four years. I can't afford to miss one of these years. Exactly. Exactly. And listen, and when you think about it, the way they spend during the season, sometimes during the offseason, that long break without those checks coming in, you need to be in season for them to check to start a roll. September, October, November, December, January is basically when you get your money and then you do the playoff money.
25:56Ocho:So for five months that you play, you make your money. After that, you're on your own. you better save it but Ocho this is what I love most about the MLB and the NBA sometimes a man must plant a tree with the realization he'll never enjoy the shade that it produces Ocho don't do that Ocho, go on and write that one down sometimes a man must plant a tree with the realization he'll never enjoy the shade in which it produces sometimes a man must do something when he's not going to benefit from it. You see, Kurt Flood never benefited from free agency. A lot of these NBA players didn't benefit from free agency, but they were willing to sacrifice for the greater good of the game.
26:43Ocho:Yes, sir. Just think about it. Think about what your grandmother and my grandmother and great and so forth and so on, what they sacrificed and never got an opportunity to enjoy some of the rewards that came along from their sacrifice.
27:02Ocho:hell if i can't if i can't if i not be
27:11Ocho:yeah yeah look at all the back look at all they locked it down mlb the player said you know what y 'all want to do this y 'all y 'all y 'all playing around with us shut it down yeah ain't no post season ain't no world series ain't nothing nothing until we get exactly what we want and you know what's funny i don't think the players understand how much power they have the players don't understand how much power they have if they was the band together and say we ain't playing we we're not we're not playing and we go okay we're gonna we want to go deadlock okay we want to go cold okay bet let's play the game but it would take for everybody to be on board yes And I guarantee they get what they want.
27:55Oh, y 'all want guaranteed contracts? Say you ain't playing. And watch what happened. But the realization of everybody buying in and understanding for the greater good, and not just you, but everybody that's going to come after you, somebody's going to have to take a stand.
28:14Ocho:No, they won't do that, Ocho. No. No.
28:21No, that's difficult, huh? That's difficult. That many players. That many players. You know, the top boys can pull it off. The top dudes can definitely pull it off. But not everybody else. They rely on that.
28:37Ocho:Ocho. What happened?
28:44Ocho:Like I said, just think if all those people
28:50Ocho:that were fighting for freedoms that they didn't get a chance to enjoy. Think about all the people that was fighting for privileges that they didn't get a chance to enjoy. If all they thought about, well, hell, I ain't going to benefit from it. I ain't going to be able to make millions and billions. I'm not going to be able to own a business. I'm not going to be able to ride wherever I want to. I'm not going to be able to go into any restaurant that I want to. Just imagine.
29:22Ocho:I think some of the greatest mistakes that one can make is to think everybody thinks like you.
29:34Ocho:That's, there's no way, there's no reason for the NFL players not to have guaranteed contracts. No, not at all. They got it in soccer, they got it in basketball, they got it in baseball. And granted, they play a lot of games, they do. but they weren't giving them that until they struck. Yeah. Until they say, we're going to shut it down. But see, the difference is, and the players, like I said, I ain't going to call nobody out. Y 'all can go back and look in 1987. The NFL is struck twice. It struck in 1980. That's the part of my bid. I had a birthday. My birthday, I ain't even getting no cake. You ain't even send me no happy birthday, uncle, nothing.
30:16Ocho:But anyway. I did tell you, you forgot I called you? Yeah you did You ain't send no money though Huh You heard I got I got I got I got your money right here What good is We're getting to that in a minute Hold on Oh go ahead Go ahead Go ahead The best part The best part Of being my age I turned 57 God damn Three and a half weeks ago Damn Is that I remember in 1982 When the player struck And I remember in 1987 when the players struck. And I ain't going to call nobody out. But y 'all go back and look at the players that crossed that picket line. Some of your favorite players. If the best players will cross the picket line and go back and play, what chance do the fourth rounders, the fifth rounders, what chance do they have, Ocho?
31:08Ocho:The guys that's not making the 100. Back then,$100 ,000,$300 ,000,$400 ,000 was a lot of money. That's big money, boy. Back then? So if the guy that's making$400 ,000,$500 ,000,$700 ,000, if he'll cross the picket line, what chance the guy that's making$60 ,000, what's he going to do? What chance he got? Right. Ochoa, as a matter of fact, 2011, you was in the lockout. When they changed the doors and let y 'all go in there. Hold on. When it was a lockout, right? Yeah. But when there's a lockout, that means contractually, you can do whatever you want to do because there is no contract. There's none.
31:45I was doing all type of wild. shit. I was the wrong one to say we in a lockout. You was the wrong one to turn loose, huh? Listen, I was riding bulls. Listen, I was doing everything I had no business doing. I was having fun. But see, it was different because you have to understand, I was working year-round. I wasn't tripping. I'm doing reality shows. I'm on TV. I'm doing all type of stuff. So actually, it was a seven, eight-year period. I was working year-round. I'm playing football. football season over hell I'm I'm I'm doing TV you know so it my situation was a little different but I just man if them boys band together on boy it would change the dynamic of the league in general but it's so it's so many players on it's so many players all you got to do is look at what
32:38Ocho:Roger Goodell what he wanted in his contract negotiations he didn't mention nothing about working less hours. Right. He wanted lifetime health benefit. Mm-hmm. He said, I want my money. Right. X amount of dollars. He want private. You want to fly private?
33:00Ocho:Lifetime health benefits because that's the quickest way to walk unless you got hundreds of millions of dollars. Like some of these guys on show, they're going to be exempt. Right. Guy making 500, going to make 500, 600 million dollars, he'll be exempt. But everybody ain't making that kind of money. Some of these guys gonna need Medicaid. Yeah. I don't like to be the bearer of bad dudes. I don't like to be the harbinger.
33:31Ocho:But somebody gonna need Medicare that play professional sports. Yes, sir. It's just the sad reality of it. Yeah.
33:44Ocho:I hate that. I wish guys, I wish some guys do, and I get it, I really do, saw the bigger picture. It did. Damn.
34:01Speaking of standing your ground, the Texans gave Jaden Higgins
34:05Ocho:the first fully guaranteed second-round rookie deal ever. Now almost every second round pick, 30 of 32, is still unsigned and is actually refusing to sign. Rookie contracts will never be the same. Second round, Trey Harris officially has a holdout to report the charges camp. Shamar Stewart was still holding out in Cincinnati. Will rookies hold out trying to get guaranteed contracts? Because Cincinnati is trying to set a precedent one way. Right. somebody else tried to set a press the rookies tried to set a president say they ain't moving forward all rookie contracts about to be guaranteed i like it yeah i i do too i do i do too listen a stand like that is something that they have to do if you want things to change it got to start with somebody yeah it has to start with somebody obviously the nfl and the teams they do it contractually to set a precedent doesn't mean you have to take it they're just going to be at a stand still.
35:05Who's going to fold first? That's what it comes down to. The funny thing about it is if you don't want to play with great understanding in regards to where you're drafted, they will replace you too. Yeah, for sure. They will replace you, so you got to understand the game that you are playing.
35:23Ocho:Yep.
35:26Ocho:Does the damage the union reputation does this damage the union's reputation after the collusion story came out? And it came out because Pablo Torre was digging. Because the union and the NFL, they agreed to keep it hush-hush. Yeah.
35:52But it ain't hush-hush no more.
35:54Ocho:Hell nah. And something gonna have to give. Something gotta give, Ocho. Something gotta give. Who going to fold first? Kyle Juszczyk, the great fullback from the San Francisco 49ers, expecting a bounce-back season for Christian McCaffrey, which would help the 49ers bounce back from a 6-11 season. This is what Juszczyk said. Christian is arguably the best player in the NFL. He was offensive player of the year two years ago. He changes everything. He looks incredible. He looks so healthy. He looks so explosive. McCaffrey began last season on injury reserve, injured the season on injury reserve. When we first started the show, Ocho, what did that say?
36:32Ocho:If you limp into the season, how you going out the season, Ocho? You're going to limp out the season. He missed eight games with a bilateral Achilles tendonitis and then played only 167 snaps before a posterior cruciate ligament ended his season. Ocho, CMC have a bounce-back season? Absolutely as possible. I saw he just welcomed a baby girl. Yep, congratulations. He had his wife, Olivia. Yep. But he definitely can. I mean, listen, CMC is a special running back. He's a special running back. He can do it all. He can do it all. And he changes the dynamic of that offense when he's available to play.
37:11He can run it. He can catch it out the backfield. And he makes everything easier for that offense. There are certain players in the NFL, when you're on that offense, it makes the offensive coordinator job easy. It makes the quarterback job easy because they can do so much. Most of the time when it comes to offensive coordinators and you call them plays, you have to call them in a way to hide certain weaknesses. A player like McCaffrey.
37:38Ocho:Your whole playbook is open. Opens up everything. It opens up everything. There are very few players on each team like that. Every team doesn't have them, which makes offensive coordinator job that much more difficult. But when you have a player like that, it makes everything else easy because they're so good at what they do.
38:00Ocho:Yeah, he's special. He's special. The thing is, Ocho, he's not a naturally big man, and he plays probably the most physically demanding position, which is the running back position, and not a naturally big man. He's not Saquon. He's not Derrick Henry. He's not Joe Mixon. He's not Josh Jacobs. I mean, he's probably going 2-0-5? If that. That's being generous. If that. And you're asking him to do 275 between 275 and 325, 350 touches. Now, it'll be fine. But what happens when they hit him, he hit the dirt, and then they fall on top of him? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. so i i think that you know you're gonna have to be judicious i mean look oh we got a weapon i want to use it i mean what am i saving it for right i want to use it right it's like you got a whip man man such as i got a bad man man i heard oh man why don't you bring the car man i heard you got i heard you got that thing man let me see it what good is having a nice car if you just going to sit in the garage.
39:22Ocho:He's like, man, we got Christian McCaffrey. We got one of the most versatile running backs in all of football and we not going to use him because of the potential that he might get hurt? Nah. We paying for you. If you get hurt, we'll deal with it. But when you're the highest paid running back at what night? Well, I think he's the second highest paid now behind Saquon because I think Saquon's at$20 million a year. And I think Christian's like at$19. I got to give him touches. I got to hand it to him. I got to throw it to him. Whatever the case may be, I need the ball in his hands. Oh, yeah. When you're moving like I do, trips don't always come together weeks in advance.
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42:54Ocho:Chargers running back Najee Harris suffered a superficial eye injury after fireworks mishap at the 4th of July event last week. According to his agent, Najee Harris was present at a 4th of July event where fireworks may have resulted in an injury to several attendees. Najee sustained a superficial eye injury during the incident, but is fully expected to be ready for an upcoming NFL season. Ocho, you see? Yeah, hey, but I don't play by them fireworks, bro. Why you don't play, Ocho? I don't play by them fireworks. Listen, I don't play by them fireworks. when it comes to fireworks and the kids want fireworks lit I allow someone else to light fireworks I don't play about that especially the eye area what about JPP have you not learned about JPP you ain't got to tell me twice even before JPP's incident I'm not playing with fireworks just with understanding what happens if it goes off what happens if it goes off I don't like that I don't like that I don't play.
44:00I give enough space between me and any firework display. A lot of space. Just in case something might tip over, I'm able to move and react. I don't play that at all. He had an eye incident?
44:18Ocho:I don't play that. Hey, anything that cannot be replaced, I don't be fooling around with that. Hey, all this right here. No, artificial eyes. My nose. right i already i only got one good eye as it is yeah i only got one good eye as it is i'm not losing nothing else yeah absolutely not you like me my thing ain't full far as whitaker but you know it's heading that direction hey my this is you know what people probably would never believe me on in night i never forget 1993. let me tell a quick story real quick 1993 i woke up with inflammation in my eye, similar to swimming under salt water. If anybody's been in the ocean, you look under salt water, you know you can't see nothing.
45:03Woke up one morning, my grandma thought it was pink eye. We woke up, she said, you're not going to school, whatever. Few days go by, nothing happens. The pink eye, the swelling all went away, but I still couldn't see out my right eye. Grandma take me to the doctor, some type of inflammation on the inside, I'm not sure what it was, blah, blah, blah. I go have surgery had surgery to clear up whatever it was so at that point remember how big small's eye he yeah you had one eye that looked straight
45:33Ocho:ahead and the other on the slide so my eye was like that the majority through high school obviously where it was very very lazy very lazy so whatever happened I don't remember what the procedure was but I could never see out of my right eye since 1993 so at some point doing certain uh i forgot not drills but finding ways to strengthen even though i couldn't see out of it you i still looks like i'm looking at you now it wasn't as bad as it used to be sometimes if i lock in long enough on something on an object or looking at my phone my eye would just drift on its own yeah now it's hard to notice and people say why you always wear glasses why so i always have glasses on most of the time because my eye will drift off sometimes and the funny thing about it is I played my entire career with one eye.
46:24I can only see out my left eye and the funny thing, I can talk about it now. If you ever watch me catch the ball in the NFL, every catch you see, you always notice I wait till the ball gets about right here. Yeah, you wait till the ball get up on you. I wait because I can't see it. Most of the time, if you have both eyes, you can catch it. Yeah, you look at the ball, you see it, you try to pick it up as soon as you possibly can.
46:48Ocho:You try to get it out here bingo i couldn't see the ball until it got at least right here and then i would just have to be able to every catch now i rarely caught up my body but i had to wait until it got close to me in order to catch it to see it in sight and that's that's the story i really never you know i never really shared that story but in in this in this eye over here i'm like 99 maybe 120 or 90 20 something like that but in my left eye you mean 2020 vision is based on 2020 no 2020 in my left eye but right at like 90 i mean it's bad on like the big the biggest letters on the on the eye chart yeah if you cover if you cover my left eye i can't even see i can't even see the biggest letters on the eye chart it's bad it's real bad all right well i'll make sure i put that thing to your head on the right side so you won't see what i got you don't give me my money oh hold on i got your money hold on hold on hey hey i got i got your money right i got your money you got it yeah i got listen i got 10 20 30 40.
48:03no that ain't enough hold on i got hey i got i got 50 000 for you right here I got you, baby. I got you. Listen, whatever you need. I'll send you a little extra. Matter of fact, how long has been? How long has been? Tell me how long has been. It's been what? We bet at the beginning of the season.
48:23Ocho:We did? Yes. Okay, listen. How much interest do I owe you? Man, just shoot your boy a cool$5 ,900. $6 ,000 will make it even. Okay, okay. I got you. Matter of fact, you know what? I'm going to tell you that's how much I love you whatever you pay for the dog I'm going to pay for the dog too so I'm going to see you$6 ,000 and whatever you pay for the dog I'm going to shoot that on top of it I'm going to put this in the mail tomorrow hey man mail me my shit man we done been on vacation three weeks you keep it keep it all in wars man I forgot all about that hey send me that man hey the web is supposed to be here next week hold on matter of fact you know I'm going to shoot you a cool 10 ,000 I'm going to shoot you a cool 10 ,000 man send me stuff man come on now I'm just going to hold on to this to the webbies come so I can sit it all all at once okay okay see hey you a good dude I don't care what they say about you boy you good in my book let's see if I got anything else of yours here hey where my Funko at hey send me my Funko man oh hey send me my phone code okay yeah yeah yeah so my fun code send my webby hey what's that award what's the triangle what's the triangle award what's that called uh creative excellence oh yeah that's me that's me i like the word excellence because when i go when i go use the bathroom i piss excellence so that that award would go good in here man hey send me my jersey man come on man hello oh you in the beach i went to beach high that's me i was number two damn how you got that that's you come on hey um what you doing what what we doing over there man hey ash ash you know my address ash hey send my similar stuff now we sent the other stuff to the old address what old address well i don't i don't live that no more well she'll get it to you nah nah come on don't do that don't do that Nat don't do that you don't come on man hold on I'm confused how you got my high school jerseys both of them why they end up with you I need that fun coat that's a 101 right there boy I'm going to say the fun coat the award for creative excellence and the two the two webbies I tell you what how about we do it I got one for you now listen it's been a long time I owe you money I got money right here you send me my stuff and I'm going to send the money I got you send me my stuff so hey listen as soon as it gets here I'm going to send it right to you I promise you I promise you hey a good 50 right here I can smell it it smell good look good too hey it do hey fresh too hey these are new hunters too these are new hunters they new?
51:23yeah these new boy oh my god I forgot I don't know how I let it slip my mind. I don't know if we have it and what we talking about tonight. We talked about the casino and them having Uno. Lo and behold, they're bringing Unos to the casinos. And I'm going to tell you where you can find me. I'm going to tell you where you can find me. You can find me in a casino playing Uno. I'm going to be a billion now. I'll tell you that right now. I'm going to be a billion now of a playing Uno in a casino. I don't know what rules they're going to have.
51:54Ocho:Ocho, they're going to have different rules than what we played. No, no, no, no, no. They can't gentrify. One thing they're not going to do, they can't gentrify Uno. They can't do that. Don't gentrify Uno. Because you can't put draw twos on each other. You can't put no draw foes. They got all kind of rules, Ocho. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. If you're going to put Uno in there, let's have the original Uno. All that new stuff they got, we ain't doing that. We ain't doing that. Vikings linebacker Dallas Turner reportedly fell victim to a phone scam that cost him a staggering$240 ,000. He was allegedly targeted by a caller posing as a representative from JPMorgan Chase, who claimed that someone was attempting to impersonate him at a bank branch in Arizona.
52:38Ocho:The caller convinced Turner that to protect his funds, he needed to urgently transfer his money to alternate business accounts. Believing his finances were at risk, Turner visited two separate Chase banks and transferred$120 ,000 each. of funds were later discovered to have been funneled into fraudulent accounts. Turner didn't realize he had been duped until after speaking with family members who raised concerns about the legitimacy of the instructions. He then contacted law enforcement in an effort to recover the stolen funds. Authorities have only managed to recover less than$2 ,500. Hey, hey, listen, like stuff like that shouldn't work.
53:19Stuff like that shouldn't work. stuff a phone call since when did the bank stuff like that shouldn't work for one if Chase is calling you about anything suspecting when it comes to your money I'm going to the bank
53:36Ocho:that's what he did he went to the bank but they convinced him that you need to get some money out of this and put it in here at the actual bank so he went to two different banks and transferred 120 ,000 each into the accounts that they told him say this will protect you. No, no, no, no, no. I'm talking to the GM or the manager at that specific bank asking if anything with my accounts is in trouble. Yes. Any type of alerts, any type of security things that I should be worried about. I'm sure they will check and show and let him know there is nothing going on here. Especially any phone call. Ain't no bank calling you letting you know what are we talking about?
54:18Ocho:how do we fall for that in 2025 i think we've all had our number they call well this is the last call you need to pay your tolls or you need to do matt man please don't know where i go got tolls so i know it ain't got my ain't got nothing to do with me oh uh your credit card i was like nah they know me personally they call me i don't need you telling me something wrong with my credit card man oh man listen there's certain things we shouldn't fall for there's certain things there's certain things we shouldn't fall for at our big age that just doesn't make sense it doesn't even it doesn't even make sense you know but hopefully young bull i hope he can get some of it back but it's hard oh you know when money go man that thing gone yeah it's hard to get it you never gonna get fully what you lost right you just hope you can get 40 50 60 on the dollar because you ain't gonna get 100 um think about this um when it comes to scams of this nature it normally works on the elderly.
55:16It normally works on the elderly because they're not aware. They're not sure. Something like this of this magnitude shouldn't work on a young bull. It shouldn't work on a young bull. He should know better. You got to be a little sharper.
55:28Ocho:People hurt you about their money, man. They don't play. They don't play. He don't work too hard for that. He don't work too hard for that, man. Come on, now. The thing was, I'm going to leave it right there because who's with Chase Bank? Yeah. Oh, y 'all responsible for that. So if somebody's stealing it out of that, y 'all responsible for it. Y 'all gonna place that back. I ain't gonna do nothing. Yeah, absolutely. You know what? You know what the funny thing? I bank with Chase. I bank with Chase and just the thought of even believing any phone call, any text message. Like, come on, man. Banks don't even operate that way.
56:08They don't even operate that way. Oh, damn. Who? Well, you got the wrong number, man. If you don't get off my line.
56:17Ocho:In the Ravens' playoff loss to the Bills, Mark Andrews lost a fumble in the fourth quarter with the Ravens trailing 24-19. And then with one minute and 33 seconds left, he dropped a game-time two-point pass from Lamar. Andrews talked about it Friday saying, I've had to eat a lot of ish in a lot of however long it's been. But I'm excited to go show who I am, what I can be, and what I can be, and what I can do to help this team was because I'm not done yet. Did the long break, Ocho, do you think the long break helped Andrews move on? Yeah, most definitely. Or did he give him an opportune time to just sit with his thoughts?
56:55Yeah, because it's the way the season ended, I think it's going to linger a little bit longer, you know, the way it ended. And for him being at fault, for him dropping the ball, obviously they were down. he fumbled early in the season but they had an opportunity he fumbled early in the game but they had an opportunity to tie the game and obviously maybe go to overtime and see what happens from that point and I think it hurts a little bit more and it lingers a little longer because you will view it as oh I lost the game for us you know so now obviously he says he has to prove himself again well we know what you can do we know what you can do yeah you've been a pro you've been a pro bowl you've been an all pro absolutely but it's those opportune times when it matters most can you make those plays and i think the thing is ocho the thing
57:44Ocho:that we love most about sports because you have to have a short memory because guess what in basketball the game might another game might happen that next night baseball another game happened that next day in football a game is going to happen that week so you have to forget about that i can't be thinking about in this game what happened last game because it's going to mess me up in this game exactly but because excuse me that was the last game and here we are Ocho February March April May June July August it's not until he gets back out there and he's playing meaningful football that he could possibly put that now that's never going to leave no that's never going to leave.
58:29Ocho:It's never. That's the thing that I love about professional sports because you have to move on and you get an opportunity to move on very, very fast. But when it's the last game and then you have three months, four months and, hey, bro, don't worry about it. It's, hey, ain't no one play. You know, ain't no one play causes the game. Shit. Okay. Yeah. I mean, listen, nobody will say it, obviously, but that play cost the game. It did. I mean, listen, it sounds cute. You know, they always say it. Oh, that's not why we lost the game. Yes, it is. Honestly. I mean, it is. Let's be realistic. You know, your teammates will always say all the right stuff.
59:15They'll never say it to your face. You know, but it costs us a game. And what's going to happen, he's going to bounce back this season. He's going to have a great regular season, as he did last year. but when it matters most you have to make those plays you got you got to make those plays
59:32Ocho:that's what it comes down to Ocho that's what you you paid yeah make plays yeah one of the better play tight ends because they're used to him making those kind of plays in those type of situations but if anybody can back a bounce back Mark Andrews coming back Trevor Lawrence had high praise for Travis Hunter this week Travis has been great just his work ethic how he comes in he's been one of the hardest working guys we have. I think it's commitment to learning the playbook and trying to learn the two systems. It's a lot on a rookie. It's challenging to learn everything that he's done a nice job.
1:00:05Ocho:We still have work to do, and we're going to get a lot done in training camp to get us ready to play come September. I'm really excited for him and how he can help our team.
1:00:17Yeah, I'm excited too.
1:00:19Ocho:I am. I'm excited. I'm excited. for duval i'm i'm excited for the fans in jacksonville um i'm excited to see travis hunter i'm excited to see brian thomas jr oh they got they got they got some weapons now hey listen every game they got eight home games every game should be sold out every game will be sold out simply for the the man i don't know what happened though cho what when i was uh uh uh you know they became a franchise in 95. Yeah. And I remember going down there. We played them in 99. We played them. Obviously, then I went to Baltimore and we played them. We were in the same division. So, Ocho, that place used to have 60 ,000.
1:01:02Ocho:I'm talking about they were loud. Yeah. Now I think they blacked it out up there. I'm like, come on, Jacksonville. But they were loaded. You know, they had Mark Brunel. They had Jimmy. They had Ken. They had Fred Taylor. Fabulous Freddie Taylor. Tony Buscelli. Yeah. They were loaded. They had Tony Brackens. They had Deion Figures. They had a nice squad. Oh, yeah. They had a really nice squad. Donovan Darius. Come on. Yes. Oh, yeah. Come on, Jazz. Get on out there and support your team. Oh, they're going to be there. You ain't got to worry about that. They are going to be there. Listen, the offense is lights out.
1:01:36The offense is lights out even before Travis Hunter got there. So the addition to Travis Hunter plus Brian Thomas Jr., who was one of the better receivers last year as a match. Man, they're going to be nice. They're going to be real nice. Now, if we can get Trevor Lawrence to play up to the expectation.
1:01:54Ocho:The number one overall pick and one of the highest-paid players in the NFL. Yeah. He has to fulfill his end of the deal, too, now. Yeah. He'll be all right. Just a little consistency.
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Unc and Ocho can’t believe how this NFL player got scammed for $200K+ and discuss what needs to happen for NFL expansion.
0:00 - Big Ben on having Rodgers or Mahomes on his team
12:28 - Mahomes not a fan of extending NFL season
31:15 - Christian McCaffrey bounce back season
34:48 - Najee Harris suffers superficial eye injury
44:05 - Vikings LB falls victim to phone scam
48:25 - Mark Andrews and the Ravens
51:36 - Trevor Lawrence has high praise for Travis Hunter
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