In short
“Victory Monday” NFL reaction show covering: Steelers vs Vikings (Deebo/Joe’s main game recap), Cowboys-Packers 40-40 tie, Ravens blowout loss to Chiefs, and Browns QB criticism plus Giants-Chargers and other notes.
Guests
None mentioned. Hosts are James “Deebo” Harrison and Joe Hayden.
Guest backgrounds (if any)
No guest interviews or guest identities appear in the transcript; only the two hosts speak.
Key claims
- Steelers: Rodgers control via run-pass option; DK Metcalf as early focal point; defense “bend but don’t break” with six sacks (many on third down) and turnovers (Elliott interception, TJ Watt pick).
- Steelers defense issue: too many blown coverages/“scot-free” long plays; needs better tackle/coverage to avoid chunk plays.
- Browns: Joe/Deebo argue Joe Flacco is no longer giving them a chance (0 TDs, 2 INTs); want a QB change (Dylan Gabriel or Shador Sanders).
- Ravens: defense is “trash,” injuries piling up; Lamar hamstring injury derails competitiveness; Chiefs’ execution leads to 20+ unanswered points.
Notable examples
- DK Metcalf 80-yard TD run; Gainwell TD on a run-pass option drive.
- TJ Watt interception return; Peyton Wilson chase-down tackle on a late coverage play.
- Cowboys offense: Dak “field day,” 31-40 completions, 117 rushing; Packers defense criticized for allowing ~500 total yards.
- Ravens: multiple fourth-down turnovers/short-field touchdowns; Lamar fumble; Chiefs TD drives after stops.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VODebating Team Loyalties
2:16 to 4:01
A lighthearted discussion about the hosts' multi-loyalties in football.
“I could have swore last Monday you was wearing a Browns jersey, weren't you?”
Steelers vs. Vikings Game Highlights
4:01 to 5:16
In-depth analysis of the Steelers' game against the Vikings, including key plays and standout performances.
“They had to do some rude stuff and all that, whatever it was.”
Key Moments and Adjustments in the Game
5:16 to 7:38
Discussion of critical moments and tactical adjustments during the game.
“And the one thing I loved about that, too, was in that drive, you said DK had three catches on that drive.”
Defensive Plays and Turning Points
7:38 to 9:50
Examination of defensive efforts and turning points that affected the game's outcome.
“We get the pick But then after that Still his field goal Well this is what happened man You know What happened there?”
Final Quarter and Game Wrap-Up
9:50 to 14:00
Analysis of the final quarter and wrapping up thoughts on the game.
“And then they went on ahead and tried to pick it.”
Game Analysis: Renegade Timing
14:00 to 15:00
Discussion on play calling and defense strategies during a game.
“24-14 because the Steelers just got that field goal.”
Defensive Breakdowns and Player Highlights
15:00 to 18:00
Analysis of key defensive plays and standout player performances.
“Was it that next possession we let them boys score a touchdown?”
Offensive Strategy Discussion
18:00 to 20:00
Debate on offensive plays and the effectiveness of the quarterback's decisions.
“That definitely helped us, especially towards the end as they were, you know, as they were going down, getting a little stuff here and there.”
Defensive Challenges and Improvements
20:00 to 22:40
Examination of defensive challenges and areas for improvement.
“Steelers defense played the run better dude.”
Browns' Performance and Quarterback Issues
22:40 to 26:20
Discussion on the Browns' struggles, especially with the quarterback's performance.
“these are going to be like 30-yard plays, 40-yard plays.”
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Defense Under Pressure: Game Breakdown
26:20 to 28:00
In-depth analysis of the Browns' defense under pressure and situational challenges.
“When we're trying to play against the Lions and beat them, we're not going to win with that type of football.”
Evaluating the Browns' Quarterback Situation
28:00 to 29:42
Discussion on the Browns' quarterback performance and potential changes needed.
“So you're not going to beat them if you're beating yourself when you don't have a good offense, putting your defense in a bad position.”
Lamar Jackson and the Ravens' Struggles
29:42 to 31:26
Analysis of the Ravens' performance following injuries and the impact on their season.
“Yeah, you're very emotional, you know, for a guy whose team won.”
Kansas City's Dominance Over Baltimore
31:26 to 34:29
Breakdown of the Ravens vs. Chiefs game, focusing on turnovers and missed opportunities.
“I don't – Yeah, no, Kansas – Kansas City, their drive, they only – they had two – their first two drives were field goals.”
Chiefs' Resilience and Strategies
36:14 to 42:01
Discussion on the Chiefs' performance, strategy, and the role of their key players.
“in like the last eight quarters, it was during like the second quarter of that game, Derrick Henry only carried the ball like eight times, eight to ten times in the last six quarters.”
Chiefs' Strategy and Performance
42:01 to 43:18
Discussion on the Chiefs' offensive strategy and their performance this season.
“As long as they can catch the ball, he's going to get it to them.”
The Issue with Ties
43:19 to 44:18
A debate on the concept of ties in football and how they affect teams.
“People returning, not just people going away.”
Dallas vs. Green Bay Defensive Struggles
44:19 to 47:10
Analysis of the defensive failures in the Cowboys vs. Packers game.
“Don't college, like, shorten the field and have you at, like, the 20 or something?”
Quarterback Performances and Expectations
47:11 to 48:26
Reflection on Dak Prescott's performance and expectations for quarterbacks.
“I understand, Dallas, that's just what they're going to do.”
Packers' Surprising Defensive Issues
48:27 to 49:56
Discussion regarding the unexpected shortcomings of the Packers' defense.
“I think Green Bay gave up more yards than Dallas this game, bro.”
Impact of Injuries on Teams
49:57 to 51:15
Discussion on how injuries have affected team performances, particularly the Giants and Chargers.
“too what you got the Giants okay how you feel about the Giants beating the Chargers well the Giants beat the Chargers and Malik Nabors towards ACL yeah that was bad that Yeah.”
Chiefs' Resilience and Team Dynamics
51:16 to 56:00
Exploration of the Chiefs' resilience and how they work as a cohesive team.
“So sometimes there is one-on-one coverages back there.”
Cowboys vs Packers Game Analysis
56:00 to 1:00:00
A deep dive into the surprising outcomes and performances in the Cowboys-Packers game.
“So, you know, he was going to get them options.”
Giants Upset the Chargers
1:00:00 to 1:01:40
Discussion on the Giants' unexpected victory over the Chargers and rookie performance.
“what you got the Giants okay how you feel about the Giants beating the Chargers well the Giants beat the Chargers and Malik Nabors towards ACL yeah that was bad that Yeah.”
Eagles Dominate the Buccaneers
1:01:40 to 1:04:10
Analyzing the Eagles' commanding performance against the Buccaneers.
“That game was not really as close as the score says.”
Cam Ward's Honest Assessment
1:04:10 to 1:07:20
Cam Ward's candid comments on his team's performance and the need for improvement.
“They ain't going to get nothing like that.”
Transcript
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1:54Welcome back to Debo and Joe on this Victory Monday. I'm your host, James Debo Harrison. I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden. Please make sure you guys like and subscribe. How you doing today, Joe?
2:10James Harrison:Man, Debo, I'm feeling good, man. You know, Steelers came through with that good early morning. Hold on, hold on, hold on. You know what I'm saying? It was good. Steelers. I could have swore last Monday you was wearing a Browns jersey, weren't you? Debo, every time this happens, I always tell you I have multi-loyalties. So when the Steelers win, I feel happy about it. When the Browns win, I feel happy about it. So I'm able to do a little bit of both. So what happened when we played twice a year? When we played once a year, Debo? Twice a year. Twice a year. When we played twice a year, I'm neutral.
2:50James Harrison:I want to see good football. Oh. I want the best team to win. So you going into the Hall of Fame as neutral. See, why you keep going about this Hall of Fame thing, Debo? I got mixed loyalties. You are obviously with the Steelers, and we're going to rock with that. but it's okay. Can I not show the Steeler some love too? Is that okay? It's okay. I just, I'm just trying to get a clarification. The people keep asking me, Joe. Okay. The people keep asking. Okay, no, no. Every time you ask me, I'm going to give you more and more clarity. Every time, whatever you need clarity, let's talk about, let's talk about my, I mean, our, our, our Steeler, man, you know, we out there in Dublin, Ireland, going out there first time ever, getting that good dub.
3:33Early in the morning. For the late break, Mr. Rooney, of course. Yes, sir. Early in the morning, 930. I ain't going to lie to you. I didn't like how our first possession went. Like, we get sacked on the first down, brother. And it looked like it was just a pure misassignment. We get pressured on the next two. And then we got a punk to rock. Yeah, early. Minnesota get the ball. They start driving down the field. And we get a fumble, baby, for a touchdown recovery. I'm like, hey, this is what we do. you thought. That's what I thought. And then I saw the running back. He went on ahead and touched the ball.
4:12They had to do some rude stuff and all that, whatever it was. Yes, yes. That was fluke. I didn't like it, but they helped us out. They had a legal man downfield. We came in there with that sack him on third down, held him to a field goal, you know? Yes. But we get back out there, you know what I'm saying? We got to get that man involved? Who that man is? That man is DK Metcalf. DK Metcalf. That man. We went on here, we started moving him around. We said, you know, we ain't going to put him out there always at the one. We're going to move him to the two and the three. We said, Rodgers, hey, instead of just straight out, running the run, listen, you a man that's been in this league forever.
4:57You one of the best to ever do it. Look what you see, and we're going to give you run pass option. So we started doing a little dink and dunk here on the run pass option. He don't like what he see. He go ahead and he toss it off.
5:10James Harrison:And what we do? What we do? Your man, Gainwell, ended up finishing it off. We got a TD on that drive. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Touchdown. Gainwell, brother, was oop. And the one thing I loved about that, too, was in that drive, you said DK had three catches on that drive. and Gainwell, brother, even just he was toting that rock and just being able to give him the ball, give him chances. He did his thing on that drive. So I love to see that. When they went down there, scored, made it 7-3, back to the Vikings. Let's see what they're going to do. They ain't doing much of nothing, man. They come down there.
5:46You know, they get a play here and there. But, you know, defense go ahead and, you know, they blitzing on them boys. They go ahead and get a nice little false start. And what happened again? Set that.
6:00put that ball on over the hill. And we were just talking about some man. What would that man's name was?
6:06James Harrison:The one that we talked about that we needed him to just get involved, just get his feet wet. They say he hasn't been being explosive. They don't know what it is. And he, DK, what did he, 80 yards, took it to the crib. My man was running like a mixture of Adrian Peterson. He had a little Pacheco. He was grinding, getting up the sideline. And I love the way that he finished it on the three and still ducked in the buddy and still got into the end zone. That play was unbelievable. DK was, he looked great. Hit him in the strike. I ain't going out of bounds. What do you look like going out of bounds?
6:39I ain't run this far not to go in here and get me six. I ain't about to run in here and not get me six.
6:46James Harrison:What you talking about? That was five, bro. That was grade A DK. That was prime DK Metcalf, you know, running down the field looking sweet. No question. So that turned into 14-3. It's 14-3, Debo. At this point, I'm like, oh, we might as well. This could be the game. We might as well just run away with it. Defense performing, offense performing. Let's keep it going. No question. Minnesota, you know, they did a little something. Defense been a little bit, but we don't break. You know what I'm saying? We went on ahead. It got heavy. We started blitzing them. You know what I'm saying? Doing what we had to do.
7:21What happened then?
7:26Interception.
7:31Elliott
7:33James Harrison:Interception Yeah So we get a pick We get the pick But then after that Still his field goal Well this is what happened man You know What happened there? Rodgers went on ahead And took off He fumbled the rock You know Yeah But we recovered it You know what I'm saying And then we got You know We got sacked later and settled for the field goal attempt, but that damn Rodgers, he came in there and blocked it. You know what? I shouldn't have made him play of the week last week. That's what I shouldn't have did. He might not have blocked that field goal. He was watching. He had to do. He had to be. He had to be.
8:19Offense, they come out there, man. And they go for, I think, like 10, 12 on the pass. But then we get a rough in the pass of that add 15 on it. Then we get caught in the blitz. They hit us for 17, then 30. But, you know, then it don't break. That's exactly what we do. Oh, yeah, we give them a little three. We give them a little three. Half time. 16, Nicole. 14.
8:50James Harrison:What do we got? 14, six, eight? Yeah, 14-6. I ain't tripping. You know what I'm saying? My man DK got 122 at the half. You know? Rodgers 12-14 for 165. You know? I ain't going to lie. That boy wins. Yeah, he wins 16-20 for 150. And Jeffries, you know, Jefferson, he had like 100, maybe 97, 95, something like that. Brother, it's the big – they were giving up a lot of big plays. is they were keeping them out of the end zone, but they definitely too many just blown coverages, those overroutes. You got to keep eyes on them. I think sometimes those blown coverages, we're going to get into them in the second half when we could have really ran away with it.
9:33James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? But we just, we got to tighten up. It's definitely bend but don't break, but you can't just have people running scot-free. Yeah, we come out, they get the rock, you know. Tackle forward, lost sack, all that. Let's go. Still a ball and three and out. Come on, man. What we doing? Quick. Quick three and out. What we doing? We get back in there, though. Sack fumbled. Sack fumbled. Yep. But they recovered it anyway. They recovered it. But sack again. And then they went on ahead and tried to pick it. And you know, it's another man on that team that's on. That man, TJ Swatt, is always going to come through with a play.
10:14TJ Swatt pick, catch, run with that thing. Bro. That thing, that was. Run with that thing. It was a good short field. What do you need? Oh, let's go out there. What'd they do? He's dribbling the ball with everything on the line. He's driving down the pitch. He's facing price hikes and cuts past him. Carrier contracts tries to block him. Oh, he leaves him in the dust. He's at the edge of the box. He cuts past the nonstop group chat trash talk. He clears on goal. He shoots.
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11:56James Harrison:TD. To who? To who? The running back. Listen, man. We getting everybody involved. Offense did a better job running that ball, too. Especially with that pass run option. I wasn't tripping, man. I wasn't tripping. I was very, very – it looked good, man. It looked good, especially in the first half. Still going into the second half. Gainwell just making sure that we, end of the day, having him run the ball. Even if he's not getting like 10 yards a pop. He was getting like five, six yards a pop. That's going to make the defense – that's going to put DK in these one-on-one matchups. For sure. For sure.
12:39So it's what I'm trying to get to, man. Sack game came alive. Yes. I think of the six sacks we had, I believe three or four of them was on third down. Situation of ball, man. That's what we do, man. That's what we do. We go ahead and move the ball around a little bit. We settle for a nice little field goal. We got field goal. We got field goal. But, again, Minnesota get the ball. We had Jalen get hurt And I think that was the play Where we had that blown coverage Dude just running scot-free
13:20James Harrison:Running scot-free That's what I'm talking about We can't have those We can't have that at all Now Scott-free TD They end up getting his own Now we in a fight And they got the two-point conversion Yes Now we in a fight 21-24 You know what else happened? I think they played their renegade again at the wrong time. See? Okay. That's not what we need. I think they ended up scoring 15 after they played their renegade again at the wrong time. But they ended up getting that touchdown, Debo, because the score now is 24 to 14. 24. No, it's not. It's 24 to 21 right now, right? No, it's 21 to 14. You're right.
14:03You're right. You're right. You're right. No, it's not. It's 21 to 24. 24-14 because the Steelers just got that field goal. You're right. Yeah, listen here, man. I'm just telling y 'all, if y 'all can't play the Renegade at the right time, don't do it. Last time y 'all played it, it was against Seattle when they was about to kick off to us and that did not end well, okay? We come out there after that, though, and we do a hot three and out.
14:33Yeah. Yeah, like three and out? What? Anyway, man. Get out here in the defense. They gave up a lot of these yards, dude. I didn't really much appreciate the yardage that my guys gave up. But we back into it. We ended up letting them boys score a touchdown. When was it? Yes. Was it that next possession we let them boys score a touchdown? we ain't let him score a touchdown. You know, we wasn't trying to let him score a touchdown.
15:14James Harrison:And then when we, I think a lot of the stuff that we ended up doing at the end of the game too was our play calling. When we ended up getting the ball back on fourth and we was not going for it on fourth down. Well, I understood. I understood the one. You understood it? I understood. Honestly, like I understood the end of the, of the one, you know, first down. of the end of the fourth down that he didn't go for. And that basically is like we're a bend, not break defense. They're going to need room to bend. Now, if you had went there, went for it, and didn't get it, the yardage that they ended up getting would have got them a field goal.
15:55You see what I'm saying?
15:57James Harrison:No, I feel it. I feel it. I just think at the end of the day, I mean, no, what about the play that we went for when we went for fourth down? When we did go forward on fourth down and they ended up, I think it was a good call that we went for it on fourth, but I think we could have just spread them out and passed it. We tried to run. It was fourth and goal from the four-yard line. Obviously, we could hopefully be able to get the run and hopefully he scores, but just with the option of having A-Rod to be able to spread, I think there's a lot more five-yard dink-dunk pass plays that you can do to get a touchdown on that play than running the ball right there.
16:31James Harrison:But see, that was another situation. and we went forward on fourth, didn't get it, and they ended up scoring touchdown all the way from down there. No, I mean, yeah. That was the blow. Because that's the blow on cover. You're saying with the – we're on cover four on the side. We had Slay and my man, the safety, step up. And that was great effort by my man that walked him down, too. Who was that that walked him down? It was the linebacker. What's his name? Linebacker. Oh, my goodness. That man ran – had to run 20-something miles an hour. he was sliding. Or that receiver was slow. I don't know. Probably a combination of both his sliding and dude wasn't as fast as a normal receiver would be.
17:13James Harrison:No, for sure. But at that, I mean, I definitely know what you're saying. That was just a blown coverage. We went for it and they ended up, like you said, they ended up scoring on that. But god damn, they had to drop. They had to go. Peyton Wilson. That's the name, bro. Peyton Wilson. 22. Yes. Shout out Peyton Wilson. Listen, they say 22.8. 22.8 miles an hour? 22.48 miles an hour. He went to go get him. That boy is fast. He went to go get that. Yes, he did. That boy is fast. That boy is fast. That's the effort you need. That's the effort you need. They're going to play that because he ended up saving a lot of time.
17:52James Harrison:They would have scored a whole lot quicker. He made them run a whole lot more plays, ended up getting in the end zone. Oh, yeah. They burned off 61 seconds, bro. Oh, yeah, for sure. That definitely helped us, especially towards the end as they were, you know, as they were going down, getting a little stuff here and there. And, of course, you know, we got the sack to close it out. You know what I'm saying? No, no, no, definitely. The defense went out there, finished to close it out the way that they had to. No. Didn't let them get in field goal range. No, that's great. I just – the two plays, I mean, everything's 20-20.
18:27James Harrison:20-20. Hindsight is 20-20. But, you know, I would have just tried to run a pass there on that one and then on the last fourth, just not letting them get the ball back at all. You know what I'm saying? Everything worked out for... Yeah, I understand what you're saying but like I'm saying, we're ahead. We're ahead. Yeah. You would have did the same thing. If we don't make it, we just gave them a short field. They don't need three to tie it. Who knows what happens in overtime. Let me punt this ball, give my defense the opportunity. We already at that time got five sacks. We're pressuring him. We're having success.
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19:03I'm going to make you have to drive the field some length before you can get into field goal range to be able to kick it. And that's exactly what they did. Like I said, we're a defense that's bend. Don't break. And sometimes we break though. So they need that room. They need that room to bend.
19:23James Harrison:The good thing. For sure. Like you said, too, you can do it both ways. You know what I'm saying? Like, if they, like you said, when they did, when we did go for it and they didn't get it, they still went down to score. So, still punting the ball off to the defense, putting them in a situation or whatever, like, they could have still been able to get the touchdown. But, like you said, they needed some space to bend. So, I feel it both ways. I just, like, if you got the ball in your hands, don't give it, don't give them the opportunity. You know what I'm saying? Like, just, if you can close it out with a quick play, with one time with a play let's do it yeah the things I liked about this game is the the options that they gave you know they let Rodgers have have more control especially with that run pass option he don't like what he see he go ahead and dip it out that's nothing but a short run anyway and plus you know you get you get yards after the catch hopefully the offensive line still they block better you know but you know they still they still need to do a little bit better DK of course involved early.
20:22That is a guess. You got to get him involved early. Steelers defense played the run better dude. They pressured the quarterback. They got six sacks. I think four, three or four were on third down. They were just situationally better in that. I loved it. The other side, things we can get better at is just protecting Rodgers better. As a defense, we're giving up too many yards. You know, at some point, the, you know, the bending, you know, you bend too much. At some point, you're going to make it a little too weak. It's going to start snapping, you know? No, for sure. I think, I don't know, good or bad, that we're going to start to live and die by the blitz, though.
21:08Like, that's something that I saw. Like we were getting a lot of guys up to the line and blitzing to try and, you know, slow down the run to put pressure on him for the pass. It was a couple of situations where they caught us in blitzes and, you know, they ended up getting getting yardage because he was able to see it and get the ball away in time.
21:32James Harrison:I think I definitely know what you're saying. I mean, everything you were saying with the, I'm liking what I'm seeing, the running game, the defensive run game was a whole lot better. With the blitz in part two, my only thing is, as long as we don't have people running scot-free, like if there's catching tackles, if there's blitz, there's going to be little windows where people are going to be able to make plays, catch the ball, tackling. If there's people running scot-free through our defense, that's just the only thing that I don't like. We don't need those big miscues, those big explosive plays.
22:02James Harrison:If we could just keep those down, you know what I'm saying? Everything else would be fine. Catch and tackle is going to happen. Blitzing to stop the run, blitzing to put more pressure, that's going to happen. Bang, bang plays, catch and tackle. But when people are running through our defense wide open and nobody's there, that's just the thing that's going to mess it all the way up. So the bend but don't break is always kind of going to be what we're going to do. Make plays, being able to create turnovers, punching the balls out, being real. You know what I'm saying? Elliott making picks, TJ making picks.
22:28James Harrison:We're always opportunistic. strip sack fumbles, getting after the quarterback six, seven sacks this game. You know what I'm saying? So I think that is something that we're going to still be able to do. But eliminating people running down your defense, these are going to be like 30-yard plays, 40-yard plays. If you take down those, like we're having two or three a game, that's 60, 70 yards. You know what I'm saying? If you just knock off three plays. You know what I'm saying? People running through our defense. So your defense will be so much better. And it won't look as bad and everything is kind of flowing when you don't give up chunk plays.
22:58James Harrison:Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but, you know, I think that was part of what, you know, Cam had said last week, you know, when he was talking. Actually, when we talked about, too, with the other man, TJ, that third quarter interception he had made him only the seventh player to have 100 sacks and eight interceptions in a career all time. The other six, they all in the Hall of Fame, baby. Lawrence Taylor, Richard Dent, Chris Dolman, Jason Taylor, Julius Peppers, Ricky Jackson. No question. That's elite company. That offensive, man, the Yak Munster. Five yards of the temp, but they say, whoa, the Steelers only average five yards per attempt in the air.
23:56That's the fewest. But guess who lead the league in yards after the catch? Yak. Stillers.
24:06James Harrison:Stillers. Yeah, because, you know, you're getting into DK and you're getting into Jared Warren. Warren getting up out of there after. I think him and Gibbs, you know what I'm saying, those running backs that just get the ball in his hands. You can give him a little screen. Any of those quick passes, those are extended runs. Right. Those are like no yards for Rodgers. But once he get missing, that 20 yards, that's going to count all that. Yeah, for sure. For sure. So all in all, I'm extremely happy, as you can see, about my guys win. Again, I got to go do me another cigar. I mean, I'm going to mess around.
24:42If I get cancer, I'm going to put that on the Stellar. Y 'all winning too much. Y 'all winning.
24:47James Harrison:You're winning too much. Got you hitting them good stuff. Let's get on over here to your Browns, man. And 30 fold to 10. What? Joe, Joe, what happened? Man. So, I mean, it wasn't a good showing. It wasn't a good showing. First drive was amazing. Everything looked good. Flacco was doing what he needed to do. But I'm just not, I'm not a fan of Flacco anymore. I'm wanting us to do, like, I mean, even if it's Dylan Gabriel, even if it's Dylan Gabriel or Shador Sanders, something kind of has to shake. Because I just don't think that he's giving us a chance to win anymore. Like, we understand the vet that's going to come through and be consistent.
25:44James Harrison:But if you're giving us zero touchdowns and two interceptions, that's not, you're hurting us more than you're, you're not. You're not just steadying the ship. You're hurting us. You know what I'm saying? I can see, I can put somebody else, I can do bad all by myself. So I can put somebody else in that can do different than this. Like, give us a spark. Give us something. I don't care if it's your door. I don't care if it's Dylan. But for the Browns now, I'm just over Flacco. And the first drive, it was amazing. He shows me that he can make plays to Judy, the touch pass and all that. But then, like, the picks.
26:15James Harrison:The pick before, like, it's a miscommunication. Why are you just launching the ball and throwing it over there? Like, that's not a good play. That's a bad play. When we're trying to play against the Lions and beat them, we're not going to win with that type of football. So I'm just kind of good on our defense. You put us in bad situations. They can only fight for so long. You know what I'm saying? If you keep putting us in bad situations and not in positions to win, I love our defense. They might not have played the best, but they're— You got to realize, too, I think on maybe three of the scores that they had, I think maybe two touchdowns in one field goal, they were already in your territory.
26:58Like, it was – they're already on the other side. I think it's like 35, 40, even closer on one of them. On my man DJ Reed's pick, he almost picked 60. He went out of like the three-yard line. You know, you can't – like you said, he's hurting the defense. If the defense isn't on the field to even try and stop him, special teams didn't help either. You know? I mean, when you look at it, what is it? You're looking at 7-7-7-21. You're looking at 24 points that was scored while the defense was either at a disadvantage or not even on the field.
27:34James Harrison:Like, you can't. So that's why I can't blame it on and say, no, the Browns defense are playing bad. They gave up 34 points. Let's look how they gave up the 34 points. Let's look at how far they had to travel to get these touchdowns. and look who they're playing against. They're not going against no bombs. Amarose Brown, they're running great pick plays, like on the thing. They're making them fight for what they get. So Lions went out there, the Lions are a great team. So you're not going to beat them if you're beating yourself when you don't have a good offense, putting your defense in a bad position.
28:06James Harrison:That's not going to work. You know what I'm saying? So like, yeah, go ahead. And even when you look at it, dude, like you said, the defense didn't play bad. Yes, they gave up points, but they're working with a short field. Like in three of those situations. The fourth one, they didn't even get to touch the field. And they still only gave up like 275 yards or something like 280 yards. Brother, in the first half, in the first half, the Lions went three and out. First drive, punt. The second drive, they scored. They went down the field, did their thing. Third drive, they had a field goal. and then punt, punt, and then they got the ball on the one-yard line from the pick.
28:46James Harrison:I mean, three-yard line from the pick by DJ Reed, and they ended up getting the – they scored on like fourth down. So the Browns' defense, at the end of the day, they were performing at a high level, but you can't be backed up and be at the three-yard line now and expect to, you know what I'm saying, do everything you're supposed to do. So I think that – I just – I think it's a time for us to switch at quarterback for the Browns. Just give us a spark. Do something different. I'm Shador, but if Dylan Gabriel is number two and he's number three, I don't care. Put somebody else out there. Let's see what they can do.
29:19Yeah. Yeah. I think it's like you said, you got to go to the two. You can't just jump to the three. But I think now, you know what I'm saying? Everybody wants to see Shador. I understand that. But they can't just jump from the one to the three. You know what I'm saying? They got a process that they would need to go through. I'm just emotional. Yeah, you're very emotional, you know, for a guy whose team won.
29:49James Harrison:I got two teams. I'm emotional because it's still – did you hear my first name? Yeah, yeah, I heard you. You said a lot of things, man. You be double talking, man. Let's get over here to Baltimore. Man, I know you're happy about that, man. I know you're happy about that Baltimore-Kennessee game. You know what, though? At the end of the day, I am happy that the Ravens – you know, if the Ravens are losing, you know, right now, especially when we want the Steelers and Browns and our division. I just feel bad for Lamar because he's now, I mean, once he went out the game, obviously they didn't have a chance.
30:22James Harrison:Yeah, that wasn't too late though, but even when he was in there. I know, but I'm saying still, even with him in there, the Ravens team is not. The defense is terrible. The defense is playing terrible and they're getting injuries. The best player that was balling out there is my man, the corner Wiggins, and he just went down and got hurt. Lamar Jackson with a hamstring injury. There's just so many guys out there that are hurt and are – I don't think they're performing that way. Oh, they aren't. So on the defensive side of the ball. Right, right. I mean, they came out that first drive and they, you know, looked like they was about to do their thing.
30:58You know, looked like it was little resistance, went down there. And I'm like, okay. And then Kansas City proceeds to do, what, 20 unanswered? The next possession, they get a field goal. They still get – the only reason they get a field goal is because in that drive, they had a couple drops for passes that dudes, you know, they could have actually, you know, held on to and continued to drive. Mar, you know, he gets his first pick. Again, Kansas City, they go another, I think it's 12, 13 plays, get another field goal. Then five plays, a touchdown, you know.
31:37James Harrison:I don't – Yeah, no, Kansas – Kansas City, their drive, they only – they had two – their first two drives were field goals. And after that, it was just – it was TDs. Oh, no question. It was TDs. And then the Ravens went on forward on fourth down. Don't get it. They turn it over on downs. They give Kansas City the short field. Six plays later, we got another tutty. Going forward on fourth down, too. And he threw the ball away on fourth down. Like, these are things I'm not getting. You don't have a – it's fourth down. You got to give somebody a chance. You don't do nothing but throw that thing all the way to the back at the safety.
32:11Give yourself an opportunity to get more field.
32:14James Harrison:Something. Something. Make it a punt. Like, throw it deep, deep. You know what I'm saying? Because at the end of the day, the ball from that right there. You know what I'm saying? So nothing worse can happen than them pick six in it. But, like, throw it deep, high, something. Yeah. Give somebody a chance. Somebody go be – one of them DBs go be thirsty and try and grab onto that thing for sure. Not realizing you just went ahead and did an interception punt. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to pick that 1 ,000%. No question. No DBs going to beat. Nobody going to bat that ball. Yeah, then after they do the six-play touchdown drive, Lamar, he fumbles the rock, but they got a break.
32:47Yep. Kansas City missed the field goal. So they went on ahead. They actually took advantage of that one. They went on ahead and made it 10-20 then.
32:58James Harrison:Their first drive was good when they scored, and then their last drive going into halftime, they got a field goal. So those were the two best that they got right there. Yeah, and then the second half was just basically more of the same, you know, with Kansas City. I think the Ravens got a field goal early there. And then from there, Lamar ended up. Kansas City came out of halftime and scored. Yeah. Like I said, it was more of the same, you know, from the first half. But Lamar, once Lamar got hurt, you know, that was really it, man. When they put Rush in and he did the same thing, he looked like he was scared as hell out there.
33:39James Harrison:His first series that he did, you saw he threw the ball away on fourth down too. Oh, he threw it all away away. Yeah, I'm like, Brody, you're nervous. He thought he had another down or something. I don't know what that was, bro. Yeah, because then he stood there like it was a fifth down. I'm like, no, go to the sideline. You're out. You know what I'm saying? Like, shoot just wild out. He's standing there like it's fifth down. I'm like, what are you doing? You were nervous. Yeah, the Ravens, they got some. Now you got Lamar hurt, which was the only thing that really kept you in the fight in any of these games.
34:16Because the defense is trash. Okay? And now that they missing six starters, they super trash. Okay? Bro. Like the offense, they made like they couldn't even run the ball no more. Like they only handed the ball off. They only ran the ball a total of 10 times in the first half, bro. And five of those was Lamar.
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36:13James Harrison:I couldn't, they said, they gave a stat where in the first, in like the last eight quarters, it was during like the second quarter of that game, Derrick Henry only carried the ball like eight times, eight to ten times in the last six quarters. like a lot of that time they were down so you know that i understand but a lot of the time that they were down they had a lot of time to try and come back you know what i'm saying it wasn't like they were i'm with you i'm saying i don't think they need to they need to use him oh yeah i know he's fumbling but you're not going to use him and you're just going to do what you've been doing you might as well let that man go cut him do something because you ain't using him you're paying him a whole bunch of money like we're gonna have to work through this he's gonna have to you You know, he's going to have to figure this whole ball security thing out.
36:54Like, we can't have you sitting on the sideline and not know what you can do. We just need you to hold on to the rock. Yeah.
37:01James Harrison:The worst thing that could have possibly happened, though, to the Ravens was the only reason why anything is still going semi-possible good is because of Lamar Jackson. They do have him on the team and they know that he can be able to try to make things shake. If he's hurt, he's hurt. He's out. But how long is he out? He's hurt. That hamstring, you know, you come back too early. you ain't nothing but one too hard of a takeoff trying to, you know, open up away from pulling that thing again. So how long do they let him sit out? Till he 100, till he 80, till he 85, till he 90? Like what you do, he's a running quarterback.
37:35So you're going to have to make sure you get him as healthy as possible because if you go out there and you re-injure something that's already injured, you know it's going to be worse. It's going to be longer.
37:45James Harrison:Oh, for sure. I mean, look, it's his interest is making sure that he's healthy and returns at 100 % so he can always, he got a long career left and he wants to be able to play as long as he can. And then it's going to be, what is the Ravens' interest? Because you got my man Rush out there looking like he doesn't know what the hell he's doing. So they're going to be like, if we're going to be losing games, until Lamar, like, we need you back quick. Because from my perspective, it doesn't look too good for the Ravens. that doesn't look like the defense they're continuing to lose players and they're just not playing well.
38:20James Harrison:So if they lose Lamar and their defense is not playing well they're continuing to lose better players like Wiggins. It's not, there's no I don't see a plan for them to get any better right now. So from my last question that we had about is their window closing? Yes. Well now the window is definitely closing. It's looking crazy like they're not getting healthier. The players that you do They are performing. And even when they were there, the defense was still doing some boo-boo, man. You got Lamar. He done suffered the hamstring. You know? Baltimore is one and three for the first time since 2015.
38:55Two games behind. Guess who? My Steelers and the AFC. Our Steelers. Sorry. I keep saying mine. I'm sorry about that, man. Our Steelers. Our Steelers. Our. We. I got you. We, we. We, we, we. the defense the Ravens defense is allowing 33.3 points per game dude that's the worst in the NFL right now bro you can't win like that like like what what's your move what's your move what's your next move like what are you going to do over there hardball what you going to do you hardball what you going to do
39:43James Harrison:I don't know. That's why I – it doesn't look – I don't know the answer. I don't know the answer, Sway. Don't know. I don't know. Because, like, yeah, that's why he getting paid the big bucks. But, like, health-wise, you just got to have – I mean, they're not making tackles. Like, it just doesn't look like good brand of defense at all. You know what I'm saying? Like, are people in the right positions? People are missing tackles. People are blowing coverages. Like, I mean, that's a – Kansas City now, they also got Xavier Worthy back now. And they had their biggest scoring day in more than two years, man.
40:21You think KC back? I think they never left. I think they just need
40:27James Harrison:them. They ain't go nowhere. You got Patty Mahomes. He's standing upright with Andy Reid. You know what I'm saying? They got Chris Jones on defense. My man 22 on the corner is balling. They have a good defense. You know what I'm saying? They may not be one of the best in the league, but they're very, very opportunistic. You know what I'm saying? They're not just people running scot-free. So, them playing, them playing, when you have Patrick Mahomes, and we want him to be throwing for 400 yards, five touchdowns, what he normally does, this is just execution. This is just great quarterback play, being able to get everybody involved.
41:04James Harrison:Thorhill, being able to throw it to your running backs, being able to get it to Travis Kelsey, being able to Being able to use your run game, even if it's not effective, being able to still make sure you can lean on it, hand the ball off. So sometimes there is one-on-one coverages back there. So I think that the Chiefs, they've been playing football for so long. Patrick Mahomes is such a great quarterback that he's not worried about it. They're trying to get their team together. He's going to get everybody involved. They didn't have a lot of their rice still isn't there. They lost Worthy first game of the season.
41:36James Harrison:So they still just trying to pluck and play and figure it out, but they know it's a long season. And as long as Travis, I mean, as long as Patrick Mahomes is healthy, they're always going to have a chance. So them just being able to show, like, him still being able to get it to all these receivers, guys getting back into the groove, Juju, you know what I'm saying, being, like, just having a good quarterback like that and having comparable receivers that can make plays. Yes, I was going to say that. You got to have receivers that can catch the ball. I don't care how great they are at doing everything else.
42:06As long as they can catch the ball, he's going to get it to them. They secure that ball, he's going to get it to them. It's almost like a Tom Brady, you know what I'm saying, where you get the receiver, as long as he can catch, you're going to be able to move the rock. It don't matter. And the one thing I said, and the thing, too, with them was
42:30James Harrison:they were still, they were trying to get the run game going a little bit for them. They were handing it to Pacheco, giving it to Hunt. You know what I'm saying? Like, they may not have been getting the most yards, but just still having that. You got to keep them honest. You can't have them sitting there pinning their ears back, you know? You know, they got a few runs here and there that made them be like, okay, they'll run the ball, so we got to make sure that, you know, we're not sitting here just taking off upfield, leaving wide open running lanes, you know, leaving vertical holes that people can slide through.
42:59James Harrison:yep yep so yeah the the chiefs man they just have a full they have a they have a good team they've been here before you know i'm saying they're they're tried and tested they've been deep in the playoff runs they made real runs they know what it takes to win they know how long the season is so i just love seeing them just knowing it's early we're still trying to get better they're getting better they're going in the trajectory of this getting players back people not getting hurt. You know what I'm saying? People returning, not just people going away. So I think their trajectory is going up when you're looking at the Ravens.
43:30James Harrison:The opposite, just people going down. Defense not playing too well. It's not looking good on that side. But on the Chiefs, just being able to get right, being able to just, you know what I'm saying, work while the season's going. Speaking of work, we ain't had no defense out there with Green Bay and Dallas, man. No, sir. 40 to 40 tie. That's like, that's worse, man. What's good with a tie? Like, I mean, I understand they don't want guys playing, you know, long and deep. Yeah, all that extra. And especially, you know, when it's a regular season game, you know, you don't have the same rules in the playoffs.
44:09But a tie is like going out there and you just did all that for nothing. Like, I want, give me a loss or a win. Like, we got to figure out a way. Don't college, like, shorten the field and have you at, like, the 20 or something? Yeah, at the 20. Yes, yes, yes. Let's do that for, you know, whatever that time frame is or until somebody don't score a touchdown, like, or a field goal. Yeah.
44:36James Harrison:You know? When you walk in a stadium, you plan to walk out with the, did I win or did I lose? You know what I'm saying? You know what's so crazy, though? I feel like Dallas thought they won because it was a tie I swear dude that's what I felt like man I knew Dallas they wasn't going to play no defense I didn't know Green Bay wasn't going to show up they supposed to be a top 10 defense I believe they number 8 they only given up about 280 yards 285 yards a game 75 rushing another 205 passing and you let Dallas go out here for 117 rushing almost 320 passing you gave up almost 500 yards of total offense and that bust your head 31 of 40 three tugs only got sacked once 319 yards.
45:41He did the whole total of what y 'all give up in passing by itself.
45:46James Harrison:Oh, yeah. Dak had a field day. Dak had a field day. He went crazy. And my man, shout out George Pickens, too. Oh, no question. We already knew what that was, though. Oh, he woke up. And he had to slide into the number one since CD went. So, you know, he was going to get them options. He was going to get a lot more opportunities. And that dude is a number one. He showed that he could do it sometime. You know, just a little bit. He had a little dropsy sometimes. But that game right there, he spazzed and he showed how he can ball. I was definitely surprised with the Packers defense. Them dudes, they've been getting after people.
46:19James Harrison:Listen, they've been getting after people. I'll give them that. But since that rookie ran his mouth talking about an undefeated season, they ain't defeated nobody. Okay? Now you let Dallas do this while they missing two of their starting linemen and their receiver. Yeah. No CD. No CD. And put up a 40 piece on you is actually crazy. And I know they was geeked too. Michael Parsons didn't get no sacks. He got one sack overtime. He didn't get no. Ah. Got one sack in overtime. But too little, too late. Like, I mean, if he didn't get it, I think Dak would have scored, though. He would have scored that touchdown, though.
47:05Oh, he needed to. I don't – yeah. I don't know what's going on over there in Green Bay with the defensive side of the ball. I understand, Dallas, that's just what they're going to do. You know, they're dead last, I think, in defense now. It's understandable. It's understandable. I think they might average giving up over 420 yards a game, something like that. So, yeah, I just didn't see this happening with the defense just not showing up at all.
47:47James Harrison:I expected the Cowboys defense to probably give up a lot of points. Yes. I would not expect the Packers defense to give up this many points. Hey, I thought it was going to be a thing where they just couldn't keep up with the Packers scoring. You know what I'm saying? Because, nope, that wasn't the case. That went out there and hooped. He only, like you said, eight incompletes passes, man. That was amazing. And George was getting off. Yeah, it's out of control, though. Dallas giving up over 420 yards a game, bro. Yeah, that's not going to win games. And I think in the second, it's big plays. It's huge plays.
48:27James Harrison:I think Green Bay gave up more yards than Dallas this game, bro. I think Green Bay gave up like 489, something like that. And I think Dallas gave up like maybe 430-something. I mean, they gave up a little above their average. But, you know, they was on cue. We knew what they was going to do.
48:50James Harrison:I just think that when I look at, yeah, they still gave up a bunch of yards, but when I look at Dallas' defense, I just don't see effort, which is what makes me feel like, you know what I'm saying? I think maybe with the Packers, the effort maybe be there, you know what I'm saying? They just got to do, that just was a bad game. I just see, when I look at Dallas, I just don't see like they're flying to the ball, like they want to hit somebody, if you know what I'm saying. Oh, yeah. Yeah, for sure. I guess I was wrong, buddy. They gave up four. Dallas gave up the 489. Green Bay gave up the 436. Correction.
49:27Yeah. Correction. Yeah, that's about 500. Yeah, they gave up way more than the average. But, phew, dude, Green Bay gave up almost 150, 170 yards more. Like, that's out of country to Dallas, of all people? Like, come on, man. without their number without almost half your starting line and CD
49:54yeah
49:55James Harrison:we're going to see what's going on with them they got to do better but you know we're going to talk about too what you got the Giants okay how you feel about the Giants beating the Chargers well the Giants beat the Chargers and Malik Nabors towards ACL yeah that was bad that Yeah. The Giants, listen, I think it was another one of them situations where, you know, the other team coming in there, I believe they was playing at home, you know, and then you thinking you go get something that you don't get the rookie's first game starting. They thinking it's going to be a cakewalk and they ain't realized that this boy came out.
50:34James Harrison:Mahomes, he's standing upright with Andy Reid. You know what I'm saying? They got Chris Jones on defense. My man 22 on the corner is balling. They have a good defense. You know what I'm saying? They may not be one of the best in the league, but they're very, very opportunistic. You know what I'm saying? They're not just people running scot-free. So them playing, when you have Patrick Mahomes and we want him to be throwing for 400 yards, five touchdowns, what he normally does, this is just execution. This is just great quarterback play, being able to get everybody involved. Thorhill, being able to throw it to your running backs, being able to get it to Travis Kelsey, Being able to use your run game, even if it's not effective, being able to still make sure you can lean on it, hand the ball off.
51:17James Harrison:So sometimes there is one-on-one coverages back there. So I think that the Chiefs, they've been playing football for so long. Patrick Mahomes is such a great quarterback that he's not worried about it. They're trying to get their team together. He's going to get everybody involved. They didn't have a lot of their rice still isn't there. They lost Worthy first game of the season. So they still just trying to pluck and play and figure it out, but they know it's a long season. And as long as Travis, I mean, as long as Patrick Mahomes is healthy, they're always going to have a chance. So them just being able to show, like, him still being able to get it to all these receivers, guys getting back into the groove, Juju, you know what I'm saying, being, like, just having a good quarterback like that and having comparable receivers that can make plays.
51:58James Harrison:Yes, I was going to say that. You got to have receivers that can catch the ball. I don't care how great they are at doing everything else. As long as they can catch the ball, he's going to get it to them. They secure that ball, he's going to get it to them. It's almost like a Tom Brady, you know what I'm saying, where you get the receiver, as long as he can catch, you're going to be able to move the rock. It don't matter. And the one thing I said, and the thing, too, with them was they were still, they were trying to get the run game going a little bit for them. They were handing it to Pacheco, giving it to Hunt.
52:37James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? Like, they may not have been getting the most yards, but just still having that. You got to keep them honest. You can't have them sitting there pinning their ears back, you know? You know, they got a few runs here and there that made them be like, okay, they'll run the ball, so we got to make sure that, you know, we're not sitting here just taking off upfield, leaving wide open running lanes, you know, leaving vertical holes that people can slide through.
53:01James Harrison:yeah yeah so yeah the the chiefs man they just have a full they have a they have a good team they've been here before you know i'm saying they're they're tried and tested they've been deep in the playoff runs they made real runs they know what it takes to win they know how long the season is so i just love seeing them just knowing it's early we're still trying to get better they're getting better they're going in the trajectory of this getting players back people not getting hurt. You know what I'm saying? People returning, not just people going away. So I think their trajectory is going up when you're looking at the Ravens.
53:32James Harrison:The opposite, just people going down. Defense not playing too well. It's not looking good on that side. But on the Chiefs, just being able to get right, being able to just, you know what I'm saying, work while the season's going. Speaking of work, we ain't had no defense out there with Green Bay and Dallas, man. No, sir. 40 to 40 tie. That's like, that's worse, man. What's good with a tie? Like, I mean, I understand they don't want guys playing, you know, long and deep. Yeah, all that extra. And especially, you know, when it's a regular season game, you know, you don't have the same rules in the playoffs.
54:11But a tie is like going out there and you just did all that for nothing. Like, I want – give me a loss or a win. Like, we got to figure out a way. Don't college, like, shorten the field and have you at, like, the 20 or something? Yeah, at the 20. Yes, yes, yes. Let's do that for, you know, whatever that time frame is or until somebody don't score a touchdown, like, or a field goal. Yeah.
54:38James Harrison:You know? When you walk in a stadium, you plan to walk out with the – did I win or did I lose? You know what I'm saying? I'm definitely going to have to draw. You know what's so crazy, though? I feel like Dallas thought they won because it was a tie I swear dude that's what I felt like man I knew Dallas they wasn't going to play no defense I didn't know Green Bay wasn't going to show up they supposed to be a top 10 defense I believe they number 8 they only given up about 280 yards 285 yards a game 75 rushing another 205 passing and you let Dallas go out here for 117 rushing almost 320 passing you gave up almost 500 yards of total offense and that bust your head 31 of 40 three tugs only got sacked once 319 yards.
55:43He did the whole total of what y 'all give up in passing by itself.
55:48James Harrison:Oh, yeah. Dak had a field day. Dak had a field day. He went crazy. And my man, shout out George Pickens, too. Oh, no question. We already knew what that was, though. Oh, he woke up. And he had to slide into the number one since CD went. So, you know, he was going to get them options. He was going to get a lot more opportunities. And that dude is a number one. He showed that he could do it sometime. You know, just a little bit. He had a little dropsy sometimes. But that game right there, he spazzed and he showed how he can ball. I was definitely surprised with the Packers defense. Them dudes, they've been getting after people.
56:21James Harrison:Listen, they've been getting after people. I'll give them that. But since that rookie ran his mouth talking about an undefeated season, they ain't defeated nobody. Okay? Now you let Dallas do this while they missing two of their starting linemen and their receiver. Yeah. No CD. No CD. And put up a 40 piece on you is actually crazy. And I know they was geeked too. Michael Parsons didn't get no sacks. He got one sack overtime. He didn't get no. Ah. Got one sack in overtime. But too little, too late. Like, I mean, if he didn't get it, I think Dak would have scored, though. He would have scored that touchdown, though.
57:07Oh, he needed to. I don't – yeah. I don't know what's going on over there in Green Bay with the defensive side of the ball. I understand, Dallas, that's just what they're going to do. You know, they're dead last, I think, in defense now. It's understandable. It's understandable. I think they might average giving up over 420 yards a game, something like that. So, yeah, I just didn't see this happening with the defense just not showing up at all.
57:49James Harrison:I expected the Cowboys defense to probably give up a lot of points. Yes. I would not expect the Packers defense to give up this many points. Hey, I thought it was going to be a thing where they just couldn't keep up with the Packers scoring. You know what I'm saying? Because, nope, that wasn't the case. That went out there and hooped. He only, like you said, eight incompletes passes, man. That was amazing. And George was getting off. Yeah, it's out of control, though. Dallas giving up over 420 yards a game, bro. Yeah, that's not going to win games. And I think in the second, it's big plays. It's huge plays.
58:29James Harrison:I think Green Bay gave up more yardage than Dallas this game, bro. I think Green Bay gave up like 489, something like that. And I think Dallas gave up like maybe 430-something. I mean, they gave up a little above their average. But, you know, they was on cue. We knew what they was going to do.
58:52James Harrison:I just think that when I look at, yeah, they still gave a bunch of yards, but when I look at Dallas' defense, I just don't see effort, which is what makes me feel like, you know what I'm saying? I think maybe with the Packers, the effort maybe be there, you know what I'm saying? They just got to do, that just was a bad game. I just see, when I look at Dallas, I just don't see like they're flying to the ball, like they want to hit somebody, if you know what I'm saying. Oh, yeah. Yeah, for sure. I guess I was wrong, buddy. They gave up four. Dallas gave up the 489. Green Bay gave up the 436. Correction.
59:29Yeah. Correction. Yeah, that's about 500. Yeah, they gave up way more than the average. But, phew, dude, Green Bay gave up almost 150, 170 yards more. Like, that's out of country to Dallas, of all people. Like, come on, man. without their number without almost half your starting line and CD
59:56yeah
59:57James Harrison:we're going to see what's going on with them they got to do better but you know what we're going to talk about too what you got the Giants okay how you feel about the Giants beating the Chargers well the Giants beat the Chargers and Malik Nabors towards ACL yeah that was bad that Yeah. The Giants, listen, I think it was another one of them situations where, you know, the other team coming in there, I believe they was playing at home, you know, and then you thinking you go get something that you don't get the rookie's first game starting. They thinking it's going to be a cakewalk and they ain't realized that this boy came out.
1:00:44Go ahead and give everybody the juke jerk and all the other stuff. And they're not set up like that. But I think he'll do decent. I think you got to give him a year or two, maybe three, to actually be able to get used to it, spread his wings, and keep going. But from what I just saw, I think he's going to be all right. Like, I don't – and I'm not saying he's about to go out here and, you know, tear the league up, but I think he'll be all right, middle of the pack.
1:01:13James Harrison:He was giving me Bo Nix vibes a little bit, man. I'm not going to lie. And that's not a bad thing because Bo Nix has been doing good for the Broncos and nobody really expected him to be what he is. And they're winning games and I'm not mad at him at all. So from Jackson Dart, he was giving me a little bit of Bo Nix of what he first did. Hey, he first came in, nobody really knew what to expect and use his legs, being able to not mess it up. Don't turn the ball over. You know what I'm saying? Extend some plays. So it looked good. It looked good. Yeah, let's go down south, man. Tampa and Philly. That at 125.
1:01:44That game was not really as close as the score says. I think I think the Eagles just basically dominated the first half. come out and special teams start off what they did last week. They block a punt and run it in, you know, for a touchdown. Like, that started the game off. Like, that's not what you're looking for, man. And something else, too, was like Philly's, like, actual first possession, dude, it was like six, seven pass plays. I think it was only one run. and they scored the touchdown, it's 14-0. Like Tampa Bay, you know, if they didn't get the 15-yard personal foul, the next thing, you know, that's what allowed them to score the field goal that they got, like that next possession.
1:02:46So I think it's, you know, back and forth. They start doing a little punt here. But again, the punt dude does is short. He basically shanks the punt and he gives them a short field. They come out pass heavy again, letting y 'all know like, yo, Hurts can do this. He that dude, you know, 21 to three immediately. You know what I'm saying?
1:03:16James Harrison:The Eagles, bro, that's what I'm saying. when you don't have to get that many, it doesn't matter how you're scoring. It doesn't matter. It might not look too good. The stats might not be as big, but you up 21-3 and you ain't really did nothing. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's not Jalen Hurts' bad. That's not nobody's bad. That's just a good team. I'd be up 21-3. It don't matter what the score is. They ended up going, what, 24-3. Philly ended up coming back out. Like, 14-play drive ended up settling for a field goal. But again, like, that's, like, they're basically in control from the jump.
1:03:52It wasn't really anything that Tampa had did in the first half, except for kick a 65-yard field goal to make it, like, 6-24. And, hell, the first half, dude, Hurts was, I think he only missed one pass. They only had one incompletion. Tampa only had 100 yards of offense. No, 99 yards of offense, bro. They had 99 yards of offense. like the first half was just I think it was it just came down to being too much for them to to overcome the deep Tampa I'm not Tampa but um Philly's defense dude they contested everything they was tackling everything shoring up tackles dude catch the ball boom you know they they tackled them as soon as they get it that whole that whole like it was I'm like wow they ain't they ain't getting no yet.
1:04:43They ain't going to get nothing like that.
1:04:47James Harrison:Yep. No, that's the Eagles. The Eagles defense, they play with passion. They swam to the ball. They was able to get after. So, like, that's – they're a great – they're a good team. And, like, when he threw for two touchdowns, 15 for 24, my man Jalen Hurts, two touchdowns, zero picks. It's not going to wow you. It's not going to wow anybody. but you know what's going on? Why was when they win the game and they're able to walk out of the stadium again, like continuing to win. So it may not be that impressive. And I think that's why at the end of the day too, when eight, how do you, so let's get the Eagles win all that.
1:05:23James Harrison:AJ Brown at the end of the day with his tweets, you know what I'm saying? I don't understand that tweet. I don't know what it means. What is it in reference to? It's, I feel like, what do you say? If you're not welcome, not listened to, quietly withdraw. Don't make a scene. Shrug your shoulders and be on your way. He's trying to basically say, for me reading it in, he's trying to say, he's feeling not welcome, not listened to. He wants the ball, but nobody's listening to him. He's just shrugging his shoulders and he's going about his way. but I'm like that's just it's a receiver that wants to get the ball and wants to it's a receiver that wants the ball period well I mean you're not really doing that if that's why you're tweeting it out you're actually telling everybody you're not just shrugging your shoulders and walking away you're I know I know you're making a scene by tweeting it out if you weren't just say anything and you could just do this like after the at the end of the year anything you tweet is going to That's basically you saying.
1:06:32Yeah, you just contradicted everything. Everything you said contradicted what you were saying or what you was thinking. I don't know. It's a contradiction.
1:06:40James Harrison:It's a thing, Debo. You know how I mean. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. So when you're playing and you feel you want to get, I don't know, this isn't the right way to do it, but it's just like the players, when you do tweet something about this, you know exactly what you're doing. Everybody's going to talk about it. And then you go tweet at Twitter. That's not you sitting back and just doing nothing, man. Speaking of frustration, man, Cam Ward, he said.
1:07:12Hey, he kept it a bean, didn't he? Dude, all the way a bean, dude. He was a little frustrated, man. You think he was too honest? Let's take a listen to it so you can hear exactly what he said, man.
1:07:25James Harrison:I mean, if we keeping a book right now, we ask. So we own for we have this one. We got nothing to lose. We dropped a quarter of our games and we've yet to do anything. So we have to lock in, especially myself on the offensive line, from the defensive line, from the special teams to all three faces. We have to play together. We have not played together this year yet. And that's just something that, you know, we want to preach about it every day, every day. We got to do better. And we're doing that. But it has to show up on Sundays. It hasn't showed up yet, but it got to show up next week. What do you think, Joe?
1:08:03James Harrison:Hey, bro. This all I'm going to say. He kept that shit 1 ,000. If you want to ask him how he feels on that in a particular moment, I really feel like he felt that way. Yes, 100%. We playing like ass. And I'm the quarterback of this team. I'm like ass. So offensive line, defensive line, we preach this like we got to play to a certain standard and we want to be good. But like end of the day, I'm not mad at him for saying this, but sometimes you get it off your chest. He ain't go to Twitter. He said a lie right there. No, he said a lie right there. I'm going to let you get it. This is what it is.
1:08:38This is how I feel. I ain't going to throw out no cryptics and all that. This is what it is. We're playing like trash. I'm playing like trash. Everybody need to get this together. We asked and something got to be done. We need to get it done. I have absolutely. We lost a quarter of our games. Already ready. Have zero problems with that. Look here, man. We want to thank y 'all for joining us. We got to get out of here. We out of time. We done ran a little over them now. Thank you for joining us. Listen, make sure, make sure you hit the like and subscribe button. Joseph, please.
1:09:17James Harrison:Please, please make sure you like and subscribe. We cannot do it without you guys, man. Appreciate y 'all. See you tomorrow. live at 11 a.m. Let's get it. We'll be back tomorrow, like he said. We out.
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From the publisher
Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to a wild NFL football Sunday. The Green Bay Packers and the Dallas Cowboys end up in a tie 40-40, the Baltimore Ravens got run off the field by the Kansas City Chiefs, and Jaxson Dart makes his first start at as a Giant and much more!
00:00 - Introduction
08:00 - Steelers beat Vikings
26:00 - Lions beat Browns
31:05 - Ravens blow out Chiefs
44:45 - Packers x Cowboys end in tie
49:35 Giants beat Chargers, Nabers tears ACL
1:01:00 Eagles beat Bucs
1:06:40 - Cam Ward frustrated
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