Super Bowl LX Radio Row Day 1: Part 1 - Reaction to Steelers OC hire + Terrell Davis Joins!

5:17Terrell Davis:Okay. Good times, though. Definitely good times, brother. Let's jump on into this, man. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. It is looking like the Steelers are going to be hiring Brian Angelicho.

5:27James Harrison:Okay.

5:28Terrell Davis:For the OC.

5:29James Harrison:Okay.

5:29Terrell Davis:I guess he was the passing coordinator over there in Minnesota.

5:34James Harrison:Mm-hmm.

5:35Terrell Davis:They actually did pretty good. I was checking it out like 2022, 23, 24, something like that, 25. Yeah. But they had a quarterback that was, uh. Yeah. So what do you think of that? What do you think of that?

5:49James Harrison:I, this all, Mike McCarthy is calling the plays. You know what I'm saying? So if he likes the OC and he thinks that he's going to be able to figure it out and he just knows, I like, Mike McCarthy knows whoever he picks is on him. So that's your offensive coordinator, but you still calling the plays. So you and him better be on the same page. So I'm geeked for whoever he hires because he knows what's on the line. If he likes him, if he likes him, I love him. You know what I'm saying? That's what I feel. I don't know too much about him, but I feel like Mike McCarthy knows what he needs to do to get that offense right, and he's calling the plays.

6:22James Harrison:So you're going to bring people that are on your same wavelength. For sure.

6:26Terrell Davis:Also, a lot of these, well, everybody that I've seen had some sort of relationship with him in the past where they worked with him. So I'm with you, man. And then just, like I said, just looking at his whole little setup the last four years over there with Minnesota.

6:43James Harrison:Yeah.

6:43Terrell Davis:He did well until they decided to throw the boy to the win and go with the group. Yeah.

6:50James Harrison:Their offense, man, with Sam, they was doing good. Jefferson was always getting off. So, I mean, like what Jefferson said, if they would have kept Sam Darnold there, I don't think it would have. I think it would have looked a lot better than it did now. Oh, yeah. For sure.

7:03Terrell Davis:They definitely had to look a lot better than they do now. What is this, the fourth different OC the Steelers they had? The last, what, four years, something like that? Last four seasons?

7:14James Harrison:We need it. Yeah. We need it. We need it.

7:17Terrell Davis:We can't get nothing together. But then also at the same point, like, maybe if they gave them another year, they could have did something better, but I don't know. What the fuck is that?

7:25James Harrison:Are we trying to get that up? I don't think. You can't be doing no shit like that.

7:29Terrell Davis:Moving shit closer.

7:30James Harrison:I don't think you can hear you. I don't think the people can hear you, Debo.

7:32Terrell Davis:You almost got fired on too, sweetie. Look. All right, I'll let you hear. That closer. Why is it so close here? Want me to move it up higher or you want me to block my face? Anyway. Listen. Like I was saying, man.

7:44James Harrison:You know, everything's happening in real time. It's real time. I like this. It's real time. I like this, man.

7:49Terrell Davis:I just can't. I got to stay close. I got to stay close to the Book of James. What do we say? Slow. Quick to listen. Quick to listen.

7:57James Harrison:Slow to speak. Slow to speak. Slow to anger. Come on, slow to anger. Hey. Okay. I'm going to have to take my time.

8:02Terrell Davis:Speaking of being slow to anger, listen, man, they had your boy Todd Monkton over there. He told them, you know, when they prepared for the Cleveland Browns, he said, I wasn't chipping Jim Shorts. He said, I was chipping Miles Garrett. So basically he's saying, listen, man, we're going to be good regardless with or without you. But they ain't giving no if we go do something with him or not something with him. Why is that? What's going on?

8:27James Harrison:So, I mean, Jim Smoores kind of went hard, though. Like, I think he went, when they found out he wasn't getting the head coaching job, I think he was legitimately pissed. So he's cleaning out his locker. He's cleaning out his stuff. Like, acting like, if I don't get the head coaching job, I'm out. But then Munkin is awesome. End of the day, he knows the team likes him. The team, one of them, Miles Garrett, had a really good relationship. So he coming in that dream, like, look, end of the day, I'm the head coach. I'm going to be running this. Jim Smoores was the defensive coordinator. I know you guys like them, but this is my show.

9:00James Harrison:And at the end of the day, we're going to still, Miles, we're going to still attack. I came here because of you guys. I didn't come here because of the way Jim Schwartz was coaching guys. Like, Miles, you're still here. Denzel Ward, you're still here. So I like the coach to be like, bump what Jim Schwartz is talking about. If he's not here, this is my program, and this is what we're going to do. So I think he's just trying to set the authority. Like, look, it's all good. I know the defense was good, Jim Schwartz. I know you all love him and everything, but at the end of the day, this is my ship.

9:26James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? And I need y 'all to come on and come aboard. So I think he's really just trying to show who's boss. Like, Jim, I hear you, but this is my Cleveland Browns team. Myles Garrett, I got you. We're going to be good. So I think he was just doing that so the team would support him and they know where the buck stops. This is what I'm finding a little weird.

9:50Terrell Davis:What you find a little weird. A little weird is he's hiring or he's getting guys for the offensive side of the ball, but he ain't did nothing on defense yet with anybody. Why is that, Joe? I think they kind of still might be sitting off in the cut like, hey, maybe they could talk to him, get him to come back, Joe. What do you think?

10:08James Harrison:I would hope so. I want Jim Swartz to come back. But the vibe that he's giving off, talking about some, I wasn't chipping Jim Swartz.

10:16Terrell Davis:It's over with.

10:17James Harrison:I'm just saying, you disrespect him now. I'm like, if you were trying to keep it, wanted Jim Swartz to come back. He's not disrespecting. That's not true. Not disrespecting, but if you want somebody to come back and work for you, I'm not saying that out in the media. That's not helping your case. That's looking like, yeah, I don't need you, brother.

10:33Terrell Davis:Well, you got to realize, you know, he was a Ravens coach for a little while. He was talking to a guy that was, you know, and now he's feeling a certain kind of way. Yes, yes, legit. You know, stumped your feet up out of there, you know.

10:48James Harrison:You done took all your stuff, cleaned it, like throwing your stuff in boxes loud, shaking it and everything while you're out. I see everybody, you know, I'm out of here, you know.

10:58Terrell Davis:They done did what they done did.

11:00James Harrison:Would you come back if you were Jim Schwartz?

11:06James Harrison:Stucky.

11:09Terrell Davis:Let me give you a real answer. Yeah, give me a real answer. Let me sit back.

11:11James Harrison:Slow, quick to listen. Quick to listen. Slow to speak. Slow to speak. What would you do if you were Jim Schwartz?

11:20Terrell Davis:I'm tearing that motherfucker down.

11:22James Harrison:Now I'm burning it up on the way out. You're not coming back. Yes. That right there, I wasn't chipping Jim Swartz. I was chipping Miles Garrett. That doesn't sound like Todd Monk and you want me to be on your team. So I wouldn't have said that if I was trying to keep him around.

11:36Terrell Davis:But also, see, that was ego. See, you got to be careful of the ego. Ego. Ego, that's bad, too. Ego, too. I know. Strife, you can't beat. Listen. Let me slow back. Let me get back and see. God talked to me. He said, hey, come here. Yeah. I think I would have to sit back, have a real true conversation with myself, with ownership, and then with the new coach, and make a thought-out decision.

12:07James Harrison:Thought-out decision.

12:08Terrell Davis:From there. Now, if we could have that decision, and I only got a year left on mine, and maybe it was okay. We're going to give you a little bump.

12:19James Harrison:A little bonus? A little bump in that bay.

12:23Terrell Davis:Stretch it out maybe a couple more.

12:25James Harrison:You already lived there, Jim. I'm already there.

12:28Terrell Davis:Maybe I could stay.

12:29James Harrison:Okay.

12:30Terrell Davis:Maybe I could stay.

12:31James Harrison:I hope so.

12:32Terrell Davis:Because my players come first. They want you. My players come first. That's what brought me back in 2014. Ike, Keyser, Troy That's what brought me back out of retirement 2014 because I was good, I was down But they said, hey bro, you know you don't even need the money So what you talking about, like we need you You're my brother You've been together 10 years My kids call you uncle, your kids call me Like the relationship I was like, yeah, I'm back I gotta do it So sitting back, looking at it I think it would be a more talked-out decision instead of being a little hot-headed about it and upset about it.

13:17Terrell Davis:You got to sit back. Like Joe Burrow said, you know, everybody have a bad day. Joe said he, you know, he happy over there in Cincinnati. I don't understand. He said, I just don't understand. He's happy in Cincinnati.

13:34James Harrison:Debo, he plays, He's still in the league, and you know all of these, how they coach you up. How they coach you up. You can't just be out here saying everything, and you can't just be out here saying how you really feel.

13:46Terrell Davis:No, he was saying how he really felt because, look, his response was, What? Yeah. He said, I think everybody has bad days, right? He said, everybody has a bad day. Sometimes they fall on press conference day, you know? It happens. Like, come on, bro. That's what he said. He just had a bad day. He was innocent. He was in his feelings. He was in his feelings. He was feeling a certain way. But, Joe, listen. You're just saying that. Joe, you're just saying that because it's the right thing to say as a team player, Joe. Check your DMs. Joe. You DM'd him? Joe, check your DMs. I went to SportsTracker.

14:29Terrell Davis:I looked at your contract. It's a way we can correct this. And get him to see what we got over there. We got McCarthy over there. Yes. See what he did with Daniel Rogers.

14:44James Harrison:Joe. That would be the best thing possible ever, Debo. If the Steelers got Joe Burrow. Duh. Hey.

14:57Terrell Davis:I'm just saying. I'm just saying. It don't hurt to have a conversation.

15:02James Harrison:Jim, you know what? The way things get started is you have to throw it out in the air. You got to put it out in the atmosphere.

15:07Terrell Davis:It don't hurt to have a conversation.

15:11James Harrison:And I ain't going to lie to you, though. I think Joe Burrow, like I said, he's not happy there. So when he really said that stuff, when he was talking about the team and what was going on, that's genuine feelings. So he said everybody has a bad day. No, everybody has a point of when they're going to tell you the honest truth and it might have slipped out. That's what I think. Hey. So.

15:31Terrell Davis:A hurt body will speak a sober mind.

15:34James Harrison:Come on, brother. Just like a drunk. Come on, man. Will speak a sober mind. Come on, man. That stuff that's coming out of his mouth, he's not making it up. Like, it's just like, oh, man, I said the hitting stuff out loud. I said the quiet thing out loud. I said the quiet thing out loud. And now I got, oh, did I really say that? Oh, man. And you the franchise. So, you know, end of the day, Joe, you got Jamar Chase, you got Hicken, so you have some good. You have some good. They got you pieces there on the offensive side of the ball. But when you're scoring 40 and you're losing and your defense keeps giving up all those points, that's not a good feeling.

16:06So, I mean, I'm with Joe Burrow.

16:09James Harrison:He comes to the Pittsburgh Steelers. That'll be fine. McCarthy, get some wide receivers.

16:16Terrell Davis:Defense. I mean, we could bring one of them over.

16:22James Harrison:You're trying to swap. That's crazy. No, man. No, no, no. I'm trying to win a Super Bowl. That's the way. We get Burrow. We don't need anybody else. What's the goal? The goal is black and gold. You heard what McCarthy said. Nothing in the Super Bowl. You heard what he said. He said he bring that seventh Lombardi. Down the street from starting in front of his house. In front of his house. In front of his old crib.

16:44Terrell Davis:What are we talking about, bro? This is how it's supposed to go. Everything in life, you know, it happens for a reason. And it's a reason that he was unhappy then. And it was a reason that, you know, we ended up getting McCarthy. It's a reason that I'm just seeing that it's just connecting to me. You know what I'm saying?

17:06James Harrison:After that McCarthy interview, they got to show me something. Because I'm bought in. I'm bought in. I told you, Joe. Hey, at first, I ain't going to lie.

17:17Terrell Davis:I was tripping, buddy. Yeah, you was. I'm back. I'm back. Listen. You know who else tripped?

17:21James Harrison:Who?

17:22Terrell Davis:Your boy Roger Goodell. What is Goodell talking about? He said that referees did a, what was that word?

17:36Terrell Davis:What did he say it was a? What? He said he was amazed at how good the officials are. That's what he told the reporters. He was amazed at how good the officials are.

17:48James Harrison:I would say, how do you feel about that, Debo? oh, you're not amazed by how the referees have been performing? He said how good.

17:54Terrell Davis:How good. But he also said, you know, we're going to add some AI to it so we can get rid of the, you know, the obvious errors. You know, the obvious errors, the egregious errors. Yeah. You don't need AI to do that. We all seen it. All you had to do was damn correct it. Yes. You could call from the office any other time, you know. Yes. Why couldn't you do it then?

18:17James Harrison:I don't know. I think the referees though, bro, they need to be able to, they have to do, they should do press conferences and they should be held accountable after the games. The same way we sit there and do that, they got to be able to set up. Hey, yeah. Like, bro, what kind of fucking call was that, brother? Did you not see that, John? Well, you were looking at your eyes on it.

18:35Terrell Davis:NFL, fans, the fans. Y 'all say y 'all want that, that the rest have to do interviews.

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21:43Terrell Davis:After each game, an account for their cause. They will do it. Because we account for our plays.

21:50James Harrison:Yeah, do it. I'm trying to tell y 'all. Just do it. And I do like the fact, too, with the NFL, with that replay thing, how sometimes they just send it to the office and then they come back. I like the way it's going a lot faster. that helped us out because you sitting there on the side looking at the review we know five minutes ago we seen the first replay two feet in say two feet in and then we good to go so i like the way they made it go a little bit faster with that uh the ai with the ball placements it's an inch and a

22:18Terrell Davis:half short that i don't know about that yeah because i can't tell like when i don't know i think well see you're you're going off of where they placed the ball not that it was actually down there, so you're still going off the judgment of the ref. Yes, yes, yes.

22:32James Harrison:Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right. So, you can't

22:37Terrell Davis:switch that part, but where the ball is, where the ball is, the measurement is the measurement. You can't get away from that. But if I'm Roger,

22:48James Harrison:I'm saying the same thing. If I'm Roger, I'm saying the... What? You're protecting the shield at all costs. If they're doing terrible, he's not going to come out there and be like, oh man, these refs are doing their ass. No. He's going to come out there and be like, these refs are amazing. What are we talking about here? You know, it's human error. You know, everybody makes mistakes. We're going to try to fix that. But no, he's definitely not going to come out there and be, because people are already thinking that the games are rigged. The refs is out there just setting stuff up. Terrible calls.

23:18James Harrison:He got a parlay in. That's what the fans out here thinking when they see them junky calls. I can't hear it, though.

23:23Terrell Davis:I can't hear it, though. This is what I'm going to say. What you going to say? I'm protecting the shield. Mm-hmm. Don't Ryze get like 40, 50 a year?

23:32James Harrison:Brother, at least.

23:35Terrell Davis:I'm protecting my pockets. Listen.

23:37James Harrison:One and a half per team.

23:38Terrell Davis:I would turn into. 32 teams.

23:40James Harrison:Look like 60 million.

23:41Terrell Davis:I'm going to tell you right now. 60, 70. 60, 70. I might. They say, hey, we need you to be the next commissioner. We're going to give you 50 a year. I might. I might have to turn my back. Turn your back where? On the NFLPA? Oh, for sure. Depot. I knew you was like that. Man, for the 50. I wouldn't do it.

24:03James Harrison:I'm going to tell you. I'm going to go and I'm going to do it the right way. I'm going to fly that plane that Roger gets. And now that's 60 million. I'm going to use it so well. I'm going to help out the communities. Everything. Everybody going to be good. For sure. And I'm going to help out the NFLPA. I'm going to do it the right way. I'm going to be the commissioner that's looking out for the players. And I'm looking. No. Yeah, I might get fired.

24:24Terrell Davis:You're going to get five.

24:25James Harrison:After I get my 50. I'm going to be there for one year, for sure.

24:28Terrell Davis:You're going to get five, bro. Bro, no.

24:30James Harrison:I'm going to tell you, I would do it the right way, D-Bow. Because end of the day, you got to look out for the owners. Do it, do it. Yes. How can you? Roger Goodell is, at the end of the day, he is doing a good job. But for the NFL. And for the players. Brother, brother, brother, do you see the cap keep going up? It's not like it's$300 million.

24:53Terrell Davis:The cap do keep going up.

24:55James Harrison:If you come over to pay a quarterback now,$70 million. The highest paid corner is$35 million. Receivers making$40 million.

25:03Terrell Davis:Like when you're in those NFLPA meetings and all the other stuff, the bargaining agreements, all that. I mean, Joe, how much money gets scraped off the top before they do the split?

25:13James Harrison:I understand what you're saying. I heard it was billions. He can do.

25:17Terrell Davis:They say, hey, let us pull these two, three off, and then we're going to split this.

25:20James Harrison:We can still get more of the cake. We can definitely still get more of the pie. But you cannot tell me that the way that it's increasing and the way that everybody's money keeps going up, that he's not doing a good job because the owners, if they keep making them bread. He's doing a good job, no question about it. But you got to look at this, dude.

25:37Terrell Davis:How many unions you know sign 10-year deals?

25:40James Harrison:I don't.

25:41Terrell Davis:Us, that's it? Because we foolish enough as the NFLPA leadership, they out of their mind. They over there working. It seemed like everybody working to try and get a job over there. in the NFL. NFL PA, they seem like they're working to try and get a job at the NFL. You see a couple guys that switched over. All of a sudden, it was NFL PA. Now they're here over here, vice this, president that, all that other stuff. Come on, man.

26:09James Harrison:I feel you. I feel you. They can definitely do better. They can do better. But we can't say he's not doing a good job. Because his job is, as the commissioner, he works for the owners, obviously. But for the players, too, I'm looking at that money keep going up. And I know that we can get more. They chipping stuff off the top. You know what I'm saying? They're getting more than their share. But I'm looking at the owner.

26:33Terrell Davis:You're letting them do like this right here. You know how you do a King Cobra. You do like this. Move this here. Why you're doing all this here so you can grab him. That's what they're doing to us. Y 'all, you see, you already there. Look, Joe. Look here, Joe. Look here, Joe. Don't you see this? Let me get rid of that money right there.

26:48James Harrison:Bro, but only reason why I can't. I'm with you. I'm with you. But I'm just looking at when I was in the league, it was 13 and a half was the highest paid corner, and now it's 30. And that was seven years, eight years ago. So, like, you— When you was first in the league, Joe? No, in 2000. No, when I signed my contract in 2017, highest paid corner in the league was$14 million a year in 17.

27:15Terrell Davis:Okay.

27:16James Harrison:No, that was in 14, 14. 14 to 15. The highest paid was me, Sherman, and Pat B. Ten years ago, everything's supposed to double. Well, it was 14, so now it's 30. So it doubled.

27:27Terrell Davis:Okay.

27:28James Harrison:It doubled.

27:28Terrell Davis:I'll take that, then.

27:29James Harrison:You know?

27:30Terrell Davis:I'll take that.

27:30James Harrison:That's a 930 ball in the corner, man. Receive was making 40. Quarterback is 60. In 2010, that's only 16.

27:39Terrell Davis:Yeah. Like, that's just, I mean, I understand. It's not like, oh, you go get all that. I can cut you some of that guarantee.

27:46James Harrison:I feel you with the writing the contracts of being able to get the money, getting guaranteed, Brett. All of these deals are basically, if you sign a four-year deal, it's two with the guaranteed. So you sign a four for 40 with 20 guaranteed. It depends on how much you get guaranteed up front.

28:02Terrell Davis:I know. And it may stretch it to three because if they cut you.

28:04James Harrison:They would try to do that, for sure. Kill them on the cap number. Yeah. It's always just so many different ways to manipulate that joint, though. If you got good players, I'm putting that joint to the signing bonus.

28:16Terrell Davis:Yeah, but you still, at some point, you got to cut that down. So if I say, all right, I'm going to give you$30 million on signing bonus. I'm going to give you a three-year deal. Well, that signing bonus is cut over those three years. Now your salary is another$15,$20. Like, now you got to break that down.

28:36James Harrison:We'll get to the contracts. We'll get to the contracts. Because that's what I love. I'm sports track. Dead ass. I'm sports track.

28:42Terrell Davis:You're sports track.

28:43James Harrison:You could be a GM. You could be the money man at least. I'm trying to tell you. I know the numbers and I know about the moving it around, all of that. I love it. I love it. So that's why I know what contracts and what we think people are going to get. I'm trying to tell you, D-Bo. I'm one of them ones with that because I love numbers. I love contracts. I love the way that shit works.

29:01Terrell Davis:Tell me about DK. You looking here?

29:03James Harrison:Yes. And they could have got away. They could have got out scot-free for that extra$30 million. But they being good Samaritans, you know what I'm saying, didn't do it. So he's got another one year for that 30, then they guaranteed it. So that's on now.

29:20Terrell Davis:So what's after that year then?

29:23James Harrison:I got to go look back up the contract. But I did look at it. But I just know after this season, if I were the Steelers, I would have had to let them go, brother. Are you trying to answer my wife's phone call?

29:37Terrell Davis:Hey, what's up?

29:38James Harrison:See, that's crazy. Man, got my wife on the line. Hey, how you doing? Baby, don't. That's Deebo. Yeah, it's Deebo. We on the show. We on the show. Yeah. Yep, we live.

29:48Terrell Davis:We live on air. He's talking to my wife. Yeah, this is why. Hold on, hold on. Here you go. I'll let you talk to him. Hold on. This man. Hey, babe. Hello? You got to put it to your ears, yo.

30:01James Harrison:I couldn't hear her. Hello? Hey, baby. Hey. Don't worry. What's up? So. I'm literally on the show. He on the show right now.

30:11Terrell Davis:Hey, look at him. He got to explain himself You know He got to You know what I'm saying He's trying to talk low And all that Hey He make like Hey No When I say When I say go It's go He was telling me All this boss stuff You know But right now Look at it Okay

30:23James Harrison:I love you

30:24Terrell Davis:I call you back I'm so sorry I ain't call you last God

30:28James Harrison:I'm scared You know You was going to get whooped I almost got a spanking Yeah

30:33Terrell Davis:Uh huh

30:33James Harrison:No she was just making sure Everything was good Everything's good at the house Everything's good at the house You know Kids Kids got school Two hour delay It's snowing back at the crib Got to make sure everything's everything. It's snowing a V? It's still icy. Icy. It's still icy. Icy, like your neck. Icy entertainment, like my teeth.

30:50Terrell Davis:Yeah. Yeah. You can't hide that money, I swear, boy. Come on, man.

30:54James Harrison:You know, man, the league has been good for me.

30:56Terrell Davis:I can't carry the green on me, so I'm just going to put it all on my body.

31:01James Harrison:No, man, no, no, no, no.

31:02Terrell Davis:You know, where the chain I had on at? You know, at the game, where that one at? I wanted to wear some ice, too.

31:09James Harrison:Next episode, I'm going to bring you a chain tooth. Yeah. We're going to be both chained up.

31:12Terrell Davis:Be chained up. Let me get a 9-2 on that thing, too. You know what I'm saying?

31:16James Harrison:I don't know about this. That's going to cost me.

31:19Terrell Davis:You know what I'm saying?

31:19James Harrison:No, you can wear my 2-3. You can borrow my 2-3. I'm going to print it off.

31:23Terrell Davis:I'm going to print it off. I'm going to get a paper 9-2 and hang it on that thing.

31:26James Harrison:No, no, no. Be not going like that.

31:29Terrell Davis:Paint it silver.

31:31James Harrison:A silver 9-2? A platinum 9-2. Platinum 9-2. I'm going to paint it platinum.

31:35Terrell Davis:It's platinum. The jab. I'm just going to change my number. 23. Yeah. 23. When y 'all hear it, y 'all going to know it. You're going to know it's you. They're going to know it's me.

31:44James Harrison:Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Bruh. I ain't going to lie to you, though, Debo. Go ahead. This our first time out here in the radio. Radio. What's it? Radio Row. Radio Row. Good old Radio Row. Seeing a lot of people. I'm a good people watcher, too. I know you. You just be singularly focused. And I'm going to let you know when people are walking by. I see my man Terrell Davis.

32:06Terrell Davis:You looking. because you actually scanned in the area because you was nervous. That's the difference. They done checked us for bombs. They done checked us for guns. They done sent dogs everywhere. I'm not worried about anybody in here running up on me with nothing but their hands. No. We can handle that.

32:23James Harrison:See, there we go. You're talking about physical contact. I'm just saying. There's a lot of – I'm an NFL fan. I'm a fan of the game. Are you a fan of the game? I'm a fan of the game. You're a fan of the game. You're looking for, like, I got work to do. This is work. Okay. No, for sure, for sure, for sure.

32:43Terrell Davis:You up here looking at everything else.

32:45James Harrison:And I'm on the phone with my wife. She's calling. You on the phone.

32:48Terrell Davis:You see that? That's why I keep this right here. So when my kids call, I do a quick hit. They hear it. Oh, dad on the show. You're on the show. And then I say, yeah, uh-huh, yeah. For sure. She got to do better. Yeah. Oh. She got to do better. You heard what he just said.

33:06James Harrison:Yeah, he said you got to back her. He didn't even know I was in the show.

33:10Terrell Davis:Wow. I'm just joking. You got to do. You heard. No, it ain't too late. It's too late now. It's too late now. That's live. Oh, man, if I could just see the chat now. Lord, I wouldn't know what they were saying. Boy, I wouldn't know what they're saying right there. Oh, my God. Let me see if I can pull up. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

33:27James Harrison:Hey, y 'all, listen. Sarah, I'm sorry, baby. I was lying. You know, I just got out of character. He wasn't lying. I got out of character.

33:32Terrell Davis:He was feeling himself. He been out here. this cell. Like, he went over a bridge. He done conquered his fear. He got back. He walking, walking crazy, talking crazy. I mean. I'm not a big,

33:45James Harrison:I'm definitely, definitely afraid of heights, for sure. Heights is a fear of mine. But, conquered it. And I love, and what about. Yes,

33:55Terrell Davis:he is in big trouble. This is true. No. Mm-hmm. Yes. I see it right now. I'm gonna make it up for, I'm gonna make it up when I get back. Oh. So, something Louis, something Chinese. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

34:09James Harrison:Something that really, no, I'm thoughtful with it. I'm handwritten letters, handwritten letters, you know. Then we're going to go out, get a little hair, nails, toes. Then we're going to do the spa. You go do them yourself? No.

34:27Terrell Davis:She said she wanted a foot massage. Somebody said you need to massage your feet. I do that every day.

34:31James Harrison:I do that on the regular. So you need to massage your feet. I do that on the regular. My old lady, she gets a back massage and a foot massage every day.

34:40Terrell Davis:Okay.

34:41James Harrison:She literally just throw her little back over to me. Massage my back. Throw her little foot over to me. Massage my foot.

34:47Terrell Davis:Oh.

34:48James Harrison:But I do that because I love her. That's good. I love her. That's good. Yes. That's good, Joe. Yes. That's what you should be doing. For sure. I mean, 12 years. That's my old lady, man. 12 years? 12 years of marriage, bro. Been together for 15 years. Been married for 12.

35:03Terrell Davis:That sounds like your dad. Your dad, come on. Man, come on.

35:09James Harrison:They 37 years. 37. Married 19 years old. And tell them how old. Yes. Got married at 19. 19. 19. 19. Yes. Five boys. Five of them. Five of them. Me, Josh, Jordan, Jacob, Jonathan, all J's. All J's. All Bible. All. All of them. Joseph, Joshua, Jordan, Jacob, Jonathan. Yes. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Shout wild out. Back. Back to back to back. Back to back to back. Back to back to back. My mom is wilding. Oh, for real. Because she wanted a girl. She wanted a girl. She wanted a girl. That's why they kept happening.

35:45Terrell Davis:She gave up.

35:46James Harrison:Boy. Boy. Now she's like, I want a girl. Boy. I want a girl. Boy. I want a girl. Boy. Girl dog. All right, let me go get this dog. Let me go get this dog.

35:54Terrell Davis:To hell with you.

35:55James Harrison:I know what's going to happen. I'm going to have six little Rusgrats running around this house, driving my mom crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She was easy to get out. But that was when none of that gentle parenting. But it was, we never just got, and the thing was, I never got spanked for no reason. I never got spanked for no reason. I wasn't just walking inside the house and just getting smacked inside the head. I got locked up. No, my parents. My parents were, I was taking from my children. But it's not. Extension court. When I look. Oh, yep.

36:23Terrell Davis:Extension court, bro.

36:25James Harrison:I'm not looking at it. I don't want to look at it like, and it wasn't. It was much needed. It was. That's what. It was much needed. I feel like I sound crazy when I say that. Listen, they don't understand. Listen, this is not child abuse.

36:36Terrell Davis:I'm trying to tell y 'all this. You can't let the children run in asylum. If she didn't hit me nine times with that extension cord, I know it was nine times. It was only nine. You counted. I counted. She hit me two times. She hit me two times. And she hit me another two times. And I couldn't keep still. Ah! Jumping up out of that thing. Ah! Jumping. And you can't, you know, you can't move around. Hold on. Lay that ass back down. She said on the last two, if you keep still for three, I might let you up. Wow. Scott. Scott. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. But, hey, bro, it wasn't for no reason. It wasn't for no reason.

37:10Terrell Davis:That's what I'm saying. You know what happened? That's the part. It escalated. This is what happened. So the time before that, I was like 14. Mm-hmm. Or I was 13. Last time I took a whooping was 14, though. Right. So she goes. She whooped me with the belt. All my sisters and brothers downstairs, right? Yes. So she whooping me with the belt. You know how they whooping the syllables. I told you, mother. Yeah, they're talking to you. They're talking to you. They're talking to you. So I'm blah, blah, blah, blah. As soon as you get done, I run downstairs. Damn. It hurt. See? I ain't got a tear. She said, don't worry about that.

37:45Terrell Davis:I got something for your ass. You're tripping.

37:47James Harrison:You're tripping.

37:48Terrell Davis:I thought I was manned up.

37:50James Harrison:I ain't know about the escalation. You are like my brother. Sir, I'm crying soon as I think I'm about to get a whooping. Oh, no. I'm instantly crying.

38:02Terrell Davis:No, she's going to tell you, I don't want to hear them tears right now. You weren't crying when you was doing what you did.

38:06James Harrison:I know, I know, but I'm not faking that hard stuff. This is not the time to be hard because that's how you're going to get escalated on.

38:12Terrell Davis:I didn't know the escalation. That's how you're going to get flipped on. I didn't know the escalation. But you know what hurt me the most? I was 16. I got caught up. I'm like, all right, then, I'm going to have to go on here and take this stention cord. I ain't tripping. Let's go. Get to the house. Da-da-da-da-da. You're on punishment. And that mother car ain't going nowhere. Hmm? What's that? What that mean? That mean you go to school and back home. And you don't go nowhere else. What about when I want to go somewhere? No. It's punishment. You ain't allowed to go nowhere. I said, hey, let me get that ass whooping.

38:55Terrell Davis:She said, uh-uh.

38:56James Harrison:Uh-uh. Uh-uh. No, yeah, because now she know. You don't care about that. It's what's going to hurt your feelings. I was like, let me get that whip.

39:04Terrell Davis:Yes. Uh-uh.

39:05James Harrison:No.

39:06Terrell Davis:No.

39:06James Harrison:No. No.

39:07Terrell Davis:Yeah, so that was the last time 16 I ever got caught. I was getting better. I was a smooth criminal.

39:13James Harrison:See, D-Bone. Yeah. I wasn't doing too much of nothing when I was a kid. my dad was on our ass so hard. I started working out in the 7th grade. Me and my dad and my brother. So, gym, gym, gym, gym. Workout, workout. Was no real clubbing. Was no going out like that in high school. So, me and my dad, my dad really got me and my brother. I heard some stories about you in college. When I got to college, I'm not gonna lie, that's that Gator days. With good old person, good old, yeah, it was an amazing time. Yeah. Had a blast. Amazing time. Amazing time. Yeah, we was out there. That was before. That was no Twitter, no Instagram.

39:53James Harrison:We had my roommate, Cam Newton. We had Percy out there, Chris Rainey, Dunlap. Squad. Baller. Living. No. Living.

40:05Terrell Davis:I ain't going to say that. Living. Yeah, that was no. I was spending a little time in Cincinnati. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I ain't going to say that. I ain't going to say that. I ain't going to say that.

40:12James Harrison:Pre-NIL. Yeah. That's what I said. Man, we couldn't even get a free haircut out there legally. But you know how that goes.

40:21Terrell Davis:I know. It's so crazy, bro.

40:23James Harrison:It's so crazy.

40:23Terrell Davis:I ain't had none of that. I went to Kent State. You know what I'm saying?

40:26James Harrison:I feel bad. Yeah. Ah.

40:29Terrell Davis:Yeah.

40:30James Harrison:Good old Kent State.

40:31Terrell Davis:Listen, it was a drinking school with a football problem, they said. They said it was a drinking school with a football problem.

40:38James Harrison:Did you play with Cribs, right? Yeah, he was my quarterback. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he was my quarterback. I just know Cribs went there. You went there and Julian Edelman went there? Gates went there, but he played basketball. Oh. Yeah. He didn't play football there at all? Nope. He didn't play football at all. And then he went to the Hall of Fame. That's the best tight end. That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. So, I'm going to say, who was your favorite teammate in college?

41:07Terrell Davis:Oh, Sean Armstead.

41:08James Harrison:Sean Armstead. Okay. We're still cool today, yeah.

41:10Terrell Davis:Oh, that's good. Yeah. That's my kid's golf. Oh, man. Yeah.

41:16James Harrison:Damn, where he live? Ohio. Ohio? Okay. Yeah. I was roommates. My first roommate out there was Cam Newton when I first got to Florida. So that's my dog. Him and Major Wright play safety for the Bears. Okay. Yeah, good dude. Real good dudes. What about pro? Pro? Cleveland. Cleveland, I'm going to have to go with, man, probably my boy T.J. Ward, man. T.J. Ward, safety, went to Oregon. We got drafted together in 2010. He was third-round pick. Yeah, that's my good man. I think he out here, too, so I'm probably link up with him out here. Okay. Yeah. He left from – I wish they would have re-signed my man when we was in Cleveland.

41:58James Harrison:He ended up going to Denver and won the Super Bowl, so he got him a ring.

42:02Terrell Davis:Yeah.

42:02James Harrison:Always happy.

42:03Terrell Davis:He wasn't upset about that.

42:05James Harrison:He wasn't upset at all. No. He was mad, though, because he wanted to re-sign, Because that's when we was going to be able to build something. That's when we mess it up. Y 'all wasn't going to be able to build something. We was, man. Our defense was so fire. Y 'all can't build nothing. And then we just didn't retain the talent. We just started getting rid of people. It was crazy. Josh, we had, man. Buster Screen, me, TJ Ward, Deshaun Gibson. The Browns, my Browns people know these guys.

42:35Terrell Davis:I understand what you're saying, but, you know, y 'all can't. Y 'all can get pieces. but y 'all can't put it all together. You don't know how to, man. Y 'all been doing this forever, man.

42:45James Harrison:Man, listen. All I know is Todd Monk is coming over here. If we can make the offense look good, we never just score. We never score points. We never just being out there blowing people out. Defense always fighting for our life. So we keep the same defense and get some points. Get some wideouts.

43:02Terrell Davis:Get a quarterback to throw a fade ball. What you trying to say? Spuggo. You trying to say you ain't got a quarterback to throw a fade ball?

43:08James Harrison:No, I'm not saying we got a quarterback now. We got Shador, but we need to give him some people that he can throw the ball to. Yep. We got picks. We got money. You ain't got nobody to go get that thing. Come on, man. I like our receivers. I like Jerry Judy. You like? I don't love. Okay. And at the same time, I think he can go hoop again, but he can still be like our two. We need enough. We need like a. Somebody had that one. That X. You need that one. That one. Hey, man, look.

43:35Terrell Davis:Go over there. That one. Go over there. It don't matter who over there. Not the one A, B, I need one, one.

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46:44James Harrison:Numero uno. That I'm happy to get. You know what you get? No. Numero uno. This dude right there,$40 million. Go over there and run a fade ball, and he's going to go get that. Hey, we need a third and ten. Run a dig, deep dig. Catch it over his head. It might get noisy in there. Don't fucking shrivel up. Don't shorten them arms. Don't get little armed in here. No, I need you to expose yourself. Expose yourself for the 35.

47:12Terrell Davis:They don't do that no more. I'm telling you. I ain't going to lie. If I was a receiver, nowadays, man, I'd come across that middle with no fear. No fear. No fear.

47:22James Harrison:No fear. Because if you do get smacked, you're going to get a flag. You're going to get a flag.

47:27Terrell Davis:Come on. It's very unlikely. You got to go across there reckless. I'm going to tell you right now, though.

47:36Terrell Davis:Unless, like, if you're thinking, like, and you'll get a chance to, like, go across the middle and you don't want to get fired, the only place you can go is low. So that's like way more dangerous to me than hitting somebody high. I'd rather you put me to sleep right now than catch my knee and have me out.

47:50James Harrison:That's what the receivers are saying. They'd rather get hit up top. Because if you take their lower leg, like ACLs, all that, it's a wrap. It's a wrap. You can wake up like from a little, oh, man, you're going to get to knock me out real quick. Bow. Oh, I'm out for the season. Oh, God. Like, man, my knee is shattered.

48:09Terrell Davis:Yeah.

48:09James Harrison:Yeah.

48:10Terrell Davis:Take a little head shot. That could be all the way, like, career changing. Like, you may not come back from that the same as you were before. Yeah. I don't think they totally understand that. But they were trying to make the game safer. But in turn, I think they made it a little more dangerous, a lot more dangerous, actually, in some situations when it comes time. Matter of fact, dude, I saw a little high school play, dude, where the quarterback, he threw it, like, right over the top. The safety came down and blowed on him. And, like, the bottom of his helmet caught it. You know, it was a penalty, but they're like, oh, it's a penalty.

48:45Terrell Davis:He can't do that. And I'm like, I commented on there. I'm like, yo, if he had came in there and hit that boy low, he would have hit him just as his left leg was going down. Ran through all that. And then he would still call it dirty. Yeah. Yes, for sure. For sure. Exactly. So, like, you can't win. As a defensive player, you can't win. TD. What's up, man? To real. Come on up in here, baby. TD. What's up, boss, man? How you doing?

49:14James Harrison:Looking good, baby. Definitely looking good. Yo, where you living, man? I just moved from L.A. I'm back in Virginia. Northern Virginia. I thought you were in L.A.

49:23Joe Haden:I thought that's where I saw you there.

49:24James Harrison:Yes, sir. Where you at?

49:26Joe Haden:I'm back in Denver, man. Okay. I was in L.A. for a minute. I'm back in Denver now.

49:30James Harrison:What part of L.A. were you in?

49:31Joe Haden:We were in Tarzana, Encino area. We did all that. Calabasas area.

49:38James Harrison:Yes, sir. That's where I was at. It was in the scene. You still golfing?

49:42Joe Haden:Am I golfing? Come on. Damn, bro. I'm not golfing. I'm going to be golfing until I die. I feel it. I mean, shoot.

49:50Terrell Davis:Look here, man. We get the honor right now of having Terrell Davis join us. Two-time Super Bowl champ, Hall of Famer.

50:00Joe Haden:That's it?

50:01Terrell Davis:Huh? Two times?

50:02Joe Haden:Just two championships. That's it? I'm a little disappointed in myself. You're a little disappointed in yourself. I'm not, buddy. I am not. You got two? D-Boy, you got two?

50:12Terrell Davis:Yeah, but I lost two, too.

50:13Joe Haden:You lost two? I lost two. So I asked that question the other day. I said, okay, what would you rather have done?

50:20Terrell Davis:Never made it.

50:21Joe Haden:That's what I'm saying. Have gone to four, win two, or go to two and win two? Ooh.

50:28Terrell Davis:Ooh. Let me look at that. Ooh. I don't know. You got there, though. So, you know, I got to see his ego talking right there, too. So, a little bit of pride. I mean, LeBron go to him and lose, but then they still give it to him. So, I'm going to go.

50:46Joe Haden:Oh, you want to go?

50:47Terrell Davis:I went to two.

50:48Joe Haden:I am. I love having the feeling of saying, man, I don't know what it feels like to lose the Super Bowl. Respect that.

50:56James Harrison:You know. Respect that.

50:57Joe Haden:I don't know what that feels like. I'll say this.

51:00James Harrison:I guess you'll never know. It ain't as bad as you think it is.

51:04Joe Haden:What? How can you recover?

51:09Terrell Davis:How can you walk away from that game? So how I can walk away from that game is that once I go back and I look at that game and I look at every situation and circumstance I was in in that game, and I know it was nothing I could have did to do better, to make that play, to have an effect on that game. I'm like, I did everything I could. And it just wasn't good enough. It wasn't like, all right, damn, if I just did this different here, if I just did that different there, I'm like, but it wasn't. Like, I didn't have that. I got you. Okay. All right. All right. All right.

51:46James Harrison:I wish I could be in that conversation, guys. I know Joe was going to ask you, buddy.

51:50Terrell Davis:Let's ask him which one because he ain't been in either one.

51:53James Harrison:Any of it.

51:53Joe Haden:So you never – what was the furthest you've gotten – or closest you've gotten?

51:57James Harrison:We had a first round bye with the Steelers. So the second round.

52:02Joe Haden:So the divisional round. Divisional round.

52:04James Harrison:Yes. That's it? Yes. But won the national championship, though, in college. So I'll take that one. Yeah, take the national championship.

52:11Terrell Davis:I ain't even have a winning season, so I ain't tripping. But I got two Super Bowls.

52:15Joe Haden:You think winning the national championship is bigger than winning the Super Bowl? No, not at all. Not at all. He just got something.

52:21James Harrison:I'm just trying to get in the championship. Oh, you just want to get in the club? Oh, I got you. You know. Okay. They're trying to bring this up. So how about you rather go to four Super Bowls and win or just two? And I'm like, I ain't been. Oh, I got it. I did get a championship. I did get a little natty. You did get a daddy. What's your index?

52:40Joe Haden:Right now I'm a 9.1. That's index. So my handicap is probably, it depends on the course. So like 11, depending on what you play.

52:48James Harrison:That's that golf talk. I swear you lost me. I know that's what I said. I said, what is the index? I know D-Bo don't know nothing about that. I'm an 11 too. It's like your cap of how many strokes you get in golf to let you be able to play. It makes the playing field very, very even. It levels the playing field. It levels the playing field. So you can go out there and bet with people because he's a 9, I'm an 11.

53:11Terrell Davis:So how do I find out what that is?

53:12James Harrison:You need to go get a – you got to go play a couple – you got to play a lot of rounds first to get to establishing that.

53:17Terrell Davis:I can't last when I –

53:19Joe Haden:You got to play like 20 rounds. And then you need a gen number. So you got to get in the system.

53:25James Harrison:Yep. Yep, yep, yep. I love that. Then they tell you.

53:28Terrell Davis:I blew my tricep trying to swing the golf club. How that? My delt. Sorry, my delt. He's too slow.

53:37Joe Haden:So you have. I ain't blowing. I strain it. Yeah, you're doing something drastically wrong. You should not be blowing anything out swinging the golf club.

53:47Terrell Davis:You ain't supposed to try and hit that thing like Barry Pons?

53:50Joe Haden:No. You got to take all your muscles out. Like I had to learn how to just take the muscles out. All you're doing is turning. Mm-hmm. So your upper body just turns and then turn back through. The arms are just attached to your upper body. Your arms don't really do anything but just kind of follow. And I ain't no golf coach, but I had to learn that because I was trying to muscle the heck out of a golf club. And the ball wasn't going anywhere. I couldn't hit it. When I learned just to turn and turn back through and take my arms out of the swing, then you'll see what happens. It's like, man, this is incredible.

54:27James Harrison:Yeah. I got a question. Who do you like in the Super Bowl?

54:32Joe Haden:I'm rooting for Seattle. You're rooting for Seattle? Yeah.

54:35Terrell Davis:You're rooting for Seattle, or who do you think is going to win?

54:38Joe Haden:I'm rooting for Seattle. So who do you think is going to win? I think Seattle will win. But, man, any time you do it, it's a Super Bowl.

54:49James Harrison:Anything can happen. Anything can happen.

54:51Joe Haden:Yeah. It is a Super Bowl. Now, understand this. When I played my first Super Bowl, we were 13, I think 13 or 12-point underdogs against the Green Bay Packers. And I hadn't watched enough of these teams this year to be able to match them up and say who would win. But it appears that Seattle seemed to have it going on both sides of the ball. And from what my memory recalls, I remember looking at New England throughout the year. And, you know, they've had a decent – I think they had the same kind of –

55:27James Harrison:you know, the schedule wasn't set up where they had to struggle a whole lot.

55:31Joe Haden:But it don't matter. Everybody's on full scholarship, so you playing pros out there, right?

55:36James Harrison:Yeah, yeah, yeah.

55:37Joe Haden:Yeah, so that's why – I mean, I don't know. I don't know. Again, I just go back to who I want to win. And that's Seattle. I want Seattle. I want Seattle to win. I don't want another AFC team to win unless it's Denver.

55:49James Harrison:I feel that. I think Seattle, too. I think the biggest thing for me is Sam Darnold and Drake May. Just seeing on if Sam, I think if Sam can make those plays like he did against the Rams last week, I think they'll be able to win it for sure because their defense is unbelievable. Walker. And is Charbonnet going to be back?

56:07Joe Haden:I don't think so. No, I don't think so. I think Kenneth is on his own. So he's going to have to tote the load a lot more. But Sam Darnold, man, that's an interesting, that's a great story. Tell me. That's a great story. And it's probably the road map for a lot of young quarterbacks coming in is you're not going to come in and have a lot of success, for the most part, your first couple of years. You've got to figure this thing out through playing with different teams, developing, because we all know that these young quarterbacks, they're not being developed anymore. They're asked to come in and play day one.

56:42Joe Haden:When I remember, you know, when I played, it was quarterbacks came in and they had a chance to sit there and watch. I don't care what round you were drafting. Yeah, yeah.

56:49James Harrison:They give you some time to learn.

56:50Joe Haden:Yeah, learn. Be able to learn from a veteran. And then be able to make your mistakes where you're not making mistakes on the expense of the team.

57:01James Harrison:Yes.

57:02Joe Haden:Right? So you're making your mistakes like coming in after the team is either being blown out or blowing somebody out. Now you're getting some reps in there.

57:10James Harrison:Yeah, that's not going to hurt.

57:11Joe Haden:It's not going to hurt the team. Yeah. But you're getting valuable reps there.

57:14Terrell Davis:T.D., I got a question for you, man.

57:16Joe Haden:I got answers for you, big man.

57:17Terrell Davis:All right. Now, the other TD.com, tell me what that is, the disorder, the whole. Yeah.

57:25Joe Haden:So the other TD is, you know, I'm here to raise awareness, man. And have you heard of tardive dyskinesia?

57:31Terrell Davis:No, I haven't.

57:32Joe Haden:Never heard of it. So tardive dyskinesia is a chronic movement disorder. And it's caused by taking prescription or certain prescription mental health medications. Okay. And either like an antipsychotic or antidepressant. And this could cause repetitive or uncontrollable movements in your face, your hands, your feet, or your torso. Wow. Yeah. And so although I don't have TD, man, I'm a huge health advocate. And so I want to use this platform to bring awareness to people out there who may be experiencing some of these symptoms and don't know what to do. Damn. Right? So if you're taking these prescription mental health medications and you're experiencing those symptoms, please go to TheOtherTD.com so you can get the help that you need.

58:21Terrell Davis:Is there a test or any type of process to figure out if the medication that you're using, is there somewhere they could go to actually look and see?

58:30Joe Haden:Well, again, I would advise you to go check it out at TheOtherTD.com or go see your health care provider. They can give you more information about that.

58:39Terrell Davis:Okay. Okay. And how long have you been involved with that?

58:43Joe Haden:I've been involved for about three months. And again, I've struggled with my own mental health and chronic issues. So the reason I'm using this platform to speak out is because one of the, I guess, treatment options for me was to be taking medication. And so I was like, wow, this is big. Like, you know, that could be me out there not knowing what's happening, experiencing those symptoms of, you know, having your face, your hands, your feet, having these uncontrollable movements and dealing with that issue. You know, like how scary is that? Right. You don't know what's happening to your body and you don't know what's going on.

59:17Joe Haden:So for me to bring this up to let people know and be aware of this, man, it's huge for me just to be able to do that. Because, again, if no one if you're experiencing something by yourself and you're dealing with that issue by yourself, man, how scary is that? Oh, yes.

59:31James Harrison:Yeah, definitely. A thousand percent. I really appreciate that because if you don't know, you don't know. And then people just being up there wearing this or something like, man, I'm feeling funny or something like that. Feeling funny, yeah. What's going on? It's just a really good thing, man, because that stuff is scary.

59:47Joe Haden:And one in four people who take those prescription mental health medications are experiencing some type of, are experiencing those effects.

59:57Terrell Davis:So when that happens, is there a medication that you take to counter that?

1:00:03Joe Haden:Again, I'm not the doctor. Again, I would advise anybody who have questions about that to go visit theothertd.com. They'll have all the answers that you need there, any questions you may have to ask. And then the second thing would be call your health care provider and tell them what's happening.

1:00:20Terrell Davis:Okay. That's theothertd.com?

1:00:23Joe Haden:Othertd.com. Yes.

1:00:25James Harrison:Show her. Please.

1:00:26Terrell Davis:Go there, check it out. If you're having any issues of the nature he's talking of and you're on some form of mental psychotic-type medication, that may be a cause of it. And here's where you can go to get the information. TheOtherTD.com.

1:00:43Joe Haden:TheOtherTD.com. I'm TD, but, you know, not my TD. The Other TD.

1:00:48Terrell Davis:The Other TD. Touchdown.

1:00:49Joe Haden:The Other TD.

1:00:51Terrell Davis:Touchdown TD. For sure, for sure. Look here, man. We want to thank you for coming on here with us. No problem, man.

1:00:57Joe Haden:Is this the night? So we got the nightcap. We got the nightcap. Yeah, everything is under the same one. Okay, so you guys, all right, okay. La Familia. What are y 'all, Conglomerate? Yes, yes, yes.

1:01:09Terrell Davis:They say media, you know what I'm saying?

1:01:10Joe Haden:I need to get my show up here too, by the way. Yes, TD. We got to figure out some show to slap right in between all these different levels over there. All right, I am available. I am a free agent. Available. I am available. Available, ready to go. Ready to go. I heard what he said.

1:01:26Terrell Davis:There we go. Say, say, me. Y 'all heard what he said. Y 'all heard, TD. Ready, available.

1:01:33James Harrison:Offense. Let's go. We got defense here. We need some offense.

1:01:36Terrell Davis:Yeah, I like that. Yes.

1:01:38Joe Haden:Oh, listen. Hey, man, you still tired from that run, that 99-yard interception run? No, it's Super Bowl. There's moments. I ain't going to lie. I ain't going to lie.

1:01:46Terrell Davis:I'm not tired from it. You were gas. This is what happened. You were gas. You were gas.

1:01:50Joe Haden:You were gas. You were gas. Gas. I was a little gas. I would have caught. You know I would have caught you, big dog. I ain't going to lie. You wouldn't have caught you, big dog. Listen. I would have been on you.

1:01:59Terrell Davis:They couldn't. They couldn't. I had everybody blocking. I had dudes going two and three blocks. I don't care. I would have been on you. I'm trying to say it's a good thing you wasn't out there then.

1:02:09Joe Haden:The great thing about it is that you finished the deal. We finished the deal, man. On that run, because a great run like that deserves to be paid off.

1:02:20James Harrison:Yes. With the score. If you had a one-yard line, I would have been like,

1:02:24Joe Haden:Oh, that's true. All that for nothing.

1:02:26Terrell Davis:All that for nothing. They wouldn't even remember this. Oh, right. They wouldn't even remember my name.

1:02:31Joe Haden:We wouldn't be playing that anymore. No. They wouldn't be. I'd have been like Achilles. They won't remember your name. Yeah, they won't remember it. But now they remember it. That was just a great run. That was awesome. Yeah, yeah. You know what's so crazy? And I saw some athleticism. I saw some nimbleness. Because you was having to jump over. You were having to hurdle folks.

1:02:49Terrell Davis:I'm trying to tell TD, listen, man, I was a running back. Like, listen, I could have went either way out of college now. Okay. Now, listen, I had it going either way. Nebraska wanted me for the running back, you know what I'm saying? Okay. Old State wanted me for the running back. That's when they had Lawrence Phillips and Eddie George over there in Old State. Like, they wanted me to come there. But it was, like, Michigan State and then it was Notre Dame. They wanted me for, like, linebacker. Like, I could have went anywhere, but I kind of messed that up. But I ended up at Kent State, okay? All that being said.

1:03:18Joe Haden:All that being said, I went to Kent State.

1:03:19Terrell Davis:All that being said, when you're facing six months at the end of your senior year, everybody's trying to run away. Can't say sound good. Sound good.

1:03:29James Harrison:Can't say sound good.

1:03:31Terrell Davis:So, yeah, you know, I'm going to have to let you see my high school stats. You know what I'm saying?

1:03:36Joe Haden:But you play running back in high school? Yeah. I play running back in high school. So I always tell people, I say, man, You see some of the greatest football players have running back background. Yes.

1:03:51James Harrison:Yes.

1:03:51Joe Haden:Background.

1:03:52James Harrison:Yeah.

1:03:52Joe Haden:Right?

1:03:53James Harrison:Yeah, for sure.

1:03:54Joe Haden:For sure. So if I were to do it again growing up, I would have transitioned to like a rush in. You know how tall you would? It don't matter. So I'm telling you. How tall was Dwight Freeney? How tall was Dwight Freeney? He taller than me.

1:04:11Terrell Davis:He like 6 '1", 6 '2".

1:04:12Joe Haden:Yeah, Dwight for an eight.

1:04:14Terrell Davis:Yeah, yeah. How tall are you, Debo? Six. Six foot. If you had said five times. I think you're 5 '11". Five.

1:04:21James Harrison:I think you might be 5 '11".

1:04:22Terrell Davis:No, I wasn't. I was a little taller than that before my back surgery. I was like six in one.

1:04:28Joe Haden:It don't matter. It don't matter. I would have been a straight killer on the end.

1:04:31James Harrison:What was your measurements? My arm?

1:04:34Joe Haden:Yeah. Well, the problem, I don't have long arms. Okay. So they would have been locking me out.

1:04:38Terrell Davis:I feel like I got the arm now. I feel like I got the arm now.

1:04:41Joe Haden:You'll be locking me up as soon as I go out there. Get up. Sit down.

1:04:44James Harrison:Latif, we want to say thank you so much, my boss, for coming out here, man. Really appreciate it. Anytime. Spending the time with us. Anytime.

1:04:50Joe Haden:Good luck, man.

1:04:53James Harrison:Appreciate you, boss.

1:04:54Joe Haden:All right, fellas.

1:04:54Terrell Davis:Hey, theothertd.com, check it out. Check it out. Please do.

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