Super Bowl LX Radio Row Day 1: Part 2 - KevOnStage, Kendrick Bourne, Trey Smith join & more!

10:45Joe Haden:What's up? How you doing?

10:47Trey Smith:What's up, man? Good, good, good. Y 'all getting a new stadium, right?

10:49Joe Haden:Yeah, like 2031, I think.

10:51Trey Smith:2031? Oh, so you know. Damn. What are they talking about?

10:55James Harrison:They talking about the stadium like they've had that? Yeah. It's been two years. Yeah, no, that joint. That's going to be a minute. It's going to be far away, yeah. You're going to get another deal by that joint. Yeah. It's time to run that back. Come on, man.

11:05Trey Smith:It's time to run that back. Another –

11:06James Harrison:Where do you live during the off seasons, brother? So I'm usually in Dallas. Dallas? Frisco area. Okay. Okay. Okay.

11:12Trey Smith:Yeah, man. We appreciate you stopping by, though, man. Yeah, man. Again, Mr. Smith, 6 '3", a bunch of figures. We want to thank you for joining us, man. Appreciate you. Appreciate you, man. No doubt. Appreciate y 'all. Thank you, brother. Always. Appreciate it.

11:29James Harrison:I need water. Big Ray in the building. All right, man. Appreciate you, Trey. Big Trey come out here fresh with the rollers.

11:42Trey Smith:Drink this? I don't like this.

11:48Oh.

11:49Trey Smith:Let's go, bro. Thought y 'all was using this as a prop.

11:54James Harrison:And it's still cold.

11:56Trey Smith:Oh, it's still cold, too. That's that metal container. What? I'm good.

12:06James Harrison:And

12:11James Harrison:Well, well, well That was a big dude right there, man I mean, he was a nice size Man, he had to put hands on you, D-boy Nah, bro, stop playing with me, bro Stop playing with me, bro That's why I looked at him, I was like, yep, yep He put hands on you

12:27Trey Smith:You know, like, stop playing That man might have I might have put some hands on you, Devo. Check my tape, man. Check my tape, man. Check my record, man. Check my rap sheet, man. Don't let this hype fool you. Don't let this hype fool you. Okay. Okay. Don't let this hype fool you now.

12:43James Harrison:Because you told me, because I can't believe. Y 'all want to know what Devo told me? Look here. This is the most disrespectful thing someone has ever said to me. He told me that I am victim weight. Yes. Victim weight. If you're under 200 pounds, you're victim weight. That's victim weight. I've never heard nobody say I'm disrespectful like that to me in my life. Victim weight is crazy. Under 200. Yeah. You're crying. No. I can't believe you said no. What you need to do is I know a lot of people under 200, like I said, and people over 200 that can't bench 225 times. Hey, listen, Joe want to change the victim weight.

13:21James Harrison:You got to change the victim weight to how much can you bench. If you can't bench 225 five times, you're a victim. though. If you're under 200 pounds and you can still do it, that's not victim weight.

13:32Trey Smith:So it's going to be, what if they say, I can do it, but they can't? Then they're lying. But how you going to know if they're lying? I'm going to be walking, man, there's gyms all over the place.

13:45James Harrison:Pull up to the 24-hour fitness room.

13:47Trey Smith:Pull up to the 24-hour fitness room. Right now? Raw.

13:49James Harrison:All that talking you talk, yeah. Yes. Right now. Put it on the bench. I'll give you a warm-up.

13:54Trey Smith:What if they say, yeah, what if they say I need a warm-up? I'll get warm up, yeah.

13:57James Harrison:I'm not going to just throw you out there. No, get nice and warm. 135, rep that a couple times.

14:02Trey Smith:I didn't make that rule up, man. That's what I heard. That's what the streets be talking. I'm good on you. They said anything under 200, that's victim weight. Like, you got a chance of becoming a victim in society. I didn't make that up.

14:18James Harrison:I don't. I do not like being called victim weight. That just makes me feel like less of a man.

14:25Trey Smith:I'm not calling you. I'm just telling you what the standard is.

14:27James Harrison:I'm just walking around lighting the ass. You just walking around looking like somebody just about to beat me up. That's kind of what y 'all feel like what you're saying. I don't like that at all.

14:34Trey Smith:It's a possibility. That's what they're trying to say. You got like, you understand that, right? I hear what you're saying. I don't approve. Think about it. I don't like it. We went to eat. Went to eat, okay? Yes. Now, if that was you, just you in there, they might have said, hey, you gots to go. if you was me. But looking like you, they might have said you got to go.

15:00James Harrison:You know what you... Okay, team, let me tell you what he talked about there. We go to Mastro's yesterday. I like to dress. I'm going to dress up and wear my stuff and wear my jeans and stuff. Deebo, sweatpants, hoodie everywhere. He don't care where he's at. He's wearing sweatpants and a hoodie. So we walk into the Mastro's. I'm looking like, boom, the lady's right there. She's like, oh yeah, I'm like, It's for Joe, for five, okay? Boom. She looks back. She sees Debo and everything. She's just like, oh, y 'all guys, good. And we're walking to the elevator, and she looked back at me. I'm right between her.

15:34James Harrison:Debo's at the end. She's like, you know, we normally have a strict dress code, and we don't let in sweatpants, but we're going to accommodate you guys. And I'm like, why the fuck are you talking to me? Go ahead. Go ahead. Tell him he can't come in here with these sweatpants on. And she just let us walk in, and everything was good. She did not even say nothing to Debo. And we get to the table. I'm like Debo the lady just came up to me and was like We normally have a strict guest code But you guys we're going to make sure we accommodate you I'm like she was scared of you Debo If that was me they would have sent me at the door I wouldn't have been able to make it to the elevator She's talking to me about him wearing sweatpants

16:06Trey Smith:Listen that was out of Scary Debo You were intimidated you were just standing back there

16:13James Harrison:Hoodie on looking like

16:14Trey Smith:Listen I didn't hear her say nothing Because she was whispering to me Okay but you got to understand something Like, if she had said that to me, I would have respected the A. We don't normally, I would have said, thank you very much. I really appreciate that.

16:29James Harrison:That's not what you told me you would have said. No, I said if they tried to kick me out. Then. It's been a little different.

16:36Trey Smith:Yes.

16:37James Harrison:Mm-hmm. Now, we would have had to say. There you go. That boy. Fresh. That boy. Oh, gee. Look at that boy. Chain. That boy neck. Yeah, that boy. Ice. This guy. How's that?

16:49Joe Haden:I got a jeweler. oh lord i'm gonna pull this up that hey somebody what's up what's up my guys

16:57James Harrison:what's up baby chillin what you talking about man that's what i knew i told d-boy i said d-boy when he come out here he be stepping he be stepping he be stepping

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20:31Joe Haden:Play good, look good. I do everything right.

20:33Trey Smith:Come on. Come on. That's right.

20:35Joe Haden:I'm telling you. He's crazy. I'm telling you. Yeah. Now, yeah, so the brand is all about, you know, your mindset, man. You know, you're here for a purpose. You was born for a reason. But you go through trials. You figure it out. And you're going to know why you're here. So you got to keep working, keep going. Whatever you go through. When you get there, you born blessed. You know what I'm saying? You know why you here. I love it.

20:53James Harrison:And you do the born with the born. The name and the blessed. You see what I'm saying? You cook it. You cook it. You cook it. Appreciate it, guys. Appreciate that. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Debo can't stop looking. He can't. He want that change. That's what I'm telling you. Debo. He want to come. Oh, I came on the set. You see, I got one. I just brought one because I'm going to tuck mine in. His name, Debo. For real life, he's named Debo.

21:17Trey Smith:Let me turn up. He ain't going to. You solid.

21:19James Harrison:You solid. You good. I ain't going to do.

21:21Trey Smith:I ain't going to do. I'm a saved man, man. I gave my life to God about two years ago, man. Come on. Yeah. Come on, Debo. I love that, man. You know, sometimes, though, he's talking to me. I'm looking at all that chain on you. I'm like, I'll be having to talk to myself, you know?

21:36James Harrison:Woo! How long you been into the fashion stuff, though, bro? Because that's one thing I'm on now. I brought with it.

21:42Joe Haden:I've been pushing it for about five years, bro, and it's been dope. Learning a lot. I treat it like football. You know, you start as like a rookie, not knowing materials, not knowing certain things, how to market, everything. So as I've been growing, I've been getting better, man. So this year at Radio Row, I was more ready. Brought bags of merch, you know what I'm saying, to pass it out. No, for sure. Get a free promo, just connect it, you know what I'm saying? and that's been power. So it's been fun about five years, man, getting better. That's lovely, bro. That's lovely. Love it, love it, love it.

22:06Joe Haden:You know. Don't look. Devo tripping, bro.

22:09James Harrison:He can't get his eyes off your ice. Let me tuck it in. Look, it's like born blessed. But with a man It's part of marketing. Devo. He might be here

22:19Trey Smith:to bless me. I don't know. I ain't going to.

22:23James Harrison:He just coached.

22:25Trey Smith:Brother, man. Go ahead, Devo. You got it. Go ahead, man. I'm trying to get my head

22:31James Harrison:I got to say, so we got, how different was the Patriots culture going from Bill Belichick to Jeremio to Mike Rabel?

22:39Joe Haden:Man, bro, it was a whole process, bro. But playing for Bill was incredible. Vivo knew a little bit about it. I liked it. I ain't going to lie, dude.

22:45Trey Smith:That's lit. I loved it.

22:46Joe Haden:Me too. I loved it. I loved it. It's that mindset.

22:49Trey Smith:I loved it. Like, hey, this is what it is. A is A, B is B. Come on. Ain't nobody getting no special treatment. Ain't no sympathy.

22:55Joe Haden:Ain't no sympathy. None of that.

22:57Trey Smith:Listen, dude, we're out there. I ain't going to, man, we got Super Bowl, right? Listen.

23:02Joe Haden:Come on, talk about it.

23:03Trey Smith:We're playing indoors in Minnesota, right? Yeah. This man got us outside. Outside. We got an indoor coach. We got an indoor. What are we doing? Let's get prepared. He out there in a bomber jacket and some shorts. Not tripping.

23:15Joe Haden:Negative five. Different. It's crazy. So my experience with it was just amazing, man. I learned a lot. But it was tough going from one of the greatest coaches to a first-year coach. You know, like, you see the difference. And so, like, the struggle was real for Mayo. I love him, bro. He held it down for me, gave me some bread. So that's always love. They believed in me. It kind of went left a little bit. And then going from Braves, you know, Braves experienced it. He knows what it takes, and that's why they in it. You know what I'm saying? He knows how to build a culture. So them making that move was powerful for him, man.

23:46Joe Haden:So shout out to them guys and all my boys. I was there. Got released this year from them. But it's all love. You know what I'm saying? My life is great, so I ain't tripping on it. It's part of the process. But those three transitions was tough. But it taught me a lot in life, man, just about how to move, change, adapt, and just get better.

24:01Trey Smith:Well, I could ask you this question. I kind of already know what your answer is. You said it in your thing, but do you wish that you could have been there this year?

24:10Joe Haden:You know those feelings. You know what I'm saying? It's just human nature. Like, I would sit here and be lying to you. Like, man, I wish I would have stayed there and been playing in it. But, you know, God got the plan. You know, I got to take his steps. It's not your plan. It's his plan. Come on, man. And so I ended up going back to San Fran and having a good year. I went back home. So I had a good story, like, rebuild, and it was all part of his purpose, just to lead people in the right direction. That's why my brand is catered to around Christ. You know what I'm saying? That's why I'm promoting it and promoting God and trying to have people build.

24:38Joe Haden:So it was tough. I definitely wish I'd be playing in the Super Bowl. I've experienced it before, too, so he's given me that love of playing in it. I lost, too, to the Chiefs, but just having that experience was great. So I have those thoughts, but don't let it, you know, destroy me.

24:53James Harrison:Bro, that's real stuff, though, bro. Bro, end of the day, God's plan is not yours, and you've been able to live in that. Absolutely. You can tell by your energy, bro. Your energy. We're going to keep praying for you. Thank you, man. You're born blessed and all that, bro. The vibes. The vibes is there. For sure. For sure. Appreciate that, bro. That's love, bro. And I'm going to ask you this, though, about Coach Belichick. Uh-huh. Do you think – how do you feel about him not being the first ballot Hall of Famer? Oh, my goodness. It don't make sense, bro.

25:16Joe Haden:What's going on, bro? You know what I'm saying? The whole world knows. Now I went on a frenzy. Right. But it's almost like they give them something to talk about. Right. It's a perfect storm. And the Patriots in the Super Bowl. Like, what's the odds of the timing? Even RKK. I don't know. I saw some dudes about him not being in it first ballot. Like, it don't make sense. So, I don't know, bro. It's some weird stuff going on. I don't know.

25:40Trey Smith:I think they might pull the pistol on time now, man. I think they might pull the pistol on time now. I know you do.

25:47James Harrison:If they pull the pistol on time, there's no such thing. There's no such thing as first ballot. the whole thing. You ain't get

25:53Trey Smith:craft in.

25:54James Harrison:It don't make sense, bro.

25:55Trey Smith:If that's the case, they got to pull the pistol on time. Bro, they can't pull the pistol on time. They got to hold them hostage for it. They can't, bro.

26:01James Harrison:They can't, they can't. There's no way. So they saying deflate gate. They saying deflate gate, spy gate. Spy gate. Take away two of them gates, he still got four. Don't matter. You tripping. Take away both of them gates, he got four. Like, you know, first ballot. That's real, bro. He tripping. I don't know, bro. We going to see, man. Man, the league is wild, bro.

26:19Trey Smith:We're free agents right now, right? Yes, sir. What's your next move? What are you looking forward to?

26:24Joe Haden:Man, I talked to Kyle Shanahan, man. Exit meetings. We had a good meeting. Good talk. You know what I'm saying? Like, man, I like how you played. I like your attitude, how you just approach things. You know, I know my role now as a vet. You know, I'm not trying to be – I can be receiver one if I need to be. I can be receiver two if I need to be. I can play receiver three. I don't mind. I understand where I'm at in my career. And so I'm just trying to build, you know what I'm saying? Get to that point where I can make some money, but also help young guys, help the team. And so I want to be back in San Fran, but we're going to see where it goes, man.

26:51Joe Haden:And my options is always open, man. Whoever gives me the best option, best deal that I work with my family, that's kind of what I'm thinking about, man. So kind of in that space.

26:59James Harrison:Come on, brother.

27:00Joe Haden:We're going to keep you frayed up, though.

27:02Trey Smith:Boys, boys, they bring time.

27:06James Harrison:The homies. Yo, what's going on, y 'all? What are you, man? I'm doing good. How y 'all doing? Good, good. Chilling, chilling.

27:11Trey Smith:Man, y 'all teammates or something, right? Dr.

27:12James Harrison:G? Yeah, we – Yeah, okay.

27:14Joe Haden:In New England.

27:16James Harrison:Both had – was y 'all there under Bill? Yeah, under Bill. Okay, okay. How was your experience with Bill?

27:21KevOnStage:Man, I love Bill, man. He had that dark humor, man. Definitely. He was on us, man. He was on us, man. So he definitely, like, pushed me to be great, man. Okay. Definitely got the best out of me.

27:33James Harrison:Got you, got you. That's what's up. That's what's up. Who was your – so, like, comparing coaching styles, was it just like that going hard on you all the time?

27:41KevOnStage:Yeah, kind of similar to Matt Rue, man, where I played at in Baylor. Always, like, hands-on, you know, he'll, you know, raise his voice at you, you know, let you know the truth, you know. It's going to be tough coaching. I mean, that's what good players need. Yeah, no, for sure, for sure, for sure.

27:56Trey Smith:Yeah, for sure. Hey, I spent a hot month there. We lost, too. Man, listen, if they hadn't put Cooks to sleep, man, it would have been over with for them.

28:10Joe Haden:That's a crazy story right there.

28:13Trey Smith:They had something worked up for kids. But anyway, y 'all call it tough, man. I just call it structure, man. I think a lot of people, especially, like, you know, I'm older. I'm 47 years old. So I'm used to the structure. Like, I was brought up, you know, in an era where you do as I tell you to do and you do it now, delayed obedience, disobedience. Come on. And, you know, through that process, it was like, yo, I'm somewhere where it's like, yo, it's A is A for everybody. He is beefy everybody. If I tell him that, even though he's had a longer tenure here, he's going to give me the same result as the guy I'm telling, you know, that's the first year, dude.

28:50Trey Smith:But as again, it was certain leniencies that were allowed depending on how far along they were, which was a good thing too because it was a separation. But, dude, on time for everything, no phones in anything, dude. No, no joke. When I say no phone They serious Bruh I got there I don't know what I don't know what's going on But I know when I walk Go to walk into the door Into the meeting It's 30 phones On the floor Outside the door I'm like oh I don't know what's going on But I'm For sure I don't even know what happened If a phone ring I mean

29:30James Harrison:I don't know what happened If you're late

29:32Trey Smith:What happens Have y 'all ever seen anybody late?

29:35Joe Haden:I was late Oh So what What happened? Bill Cook, dude, bro. Like, I went to doghouse for about seven weeks. You know what I'm saying? One. One. He tripping. It was low-key preseason, too. He was like, yeah, you ain't playing. I low-key was happy that I didn't play in the preseason. But then he carried over to the regular season. He was just tripping on me all year, bro. And that's when he started. He came in. He was a rookie. He came in and started cooking. And I was happy for him. But then my dog. And so, like, it's just crazy how opportunities present themselves. But, like, my mistake, open the door for him.

30:10Joe Haden:We connected right now. It's a crazy story. But Bill was on me, dog. He like, I was tripping all year. It was just one of them years, bro. They don't, bro. You know what I'm saying? He ain't having it, bro. They don't play with that late shit. They don't play with that. They don't play with that late. Bro, it's going to be loud on me, man.

30:25Trey Smith:I'm sitting, you know, I had a locker that was, like, right at the door. You know how you go into the team meeting?

30:29Joe Haden:Yeah.

30:29Trey Smith:And I kind of, it kind of catch my eye. I see somebody running, and everybody done kind of left the locker room, but I ain't really paying no attention. And it's Tom. I'm like, oh, shit, I got to get up. I'm scared. I'll start running. Man, there was still five minutes left. I'm like, everybody in here already? There's still five minutes left.

30:47James Harrison:They spooked. They spooked. Man, if you're on time, you're late. They're going to close that door.

30:53Joe Haden:And I like what you're saying. That's structure. You know what I'm saying? And I think it's perspective for everybody. So, like, if you got the right perspective about it and, like, all right, what is coach trying to do for me? What is he trying to build? How do I fall in line with this, bro? Like you say, you see in the phones. It's like, I'm falling in line because I see what the culture is. and, like, you never want to fall victim to the culture. Like you said, you don't want to find out. So I love the experience, bro, that we had there. It was very helpful for my career. I know his, too. So, like, it's just special to be a part of.

31:19James Harrison:How you been feeling now with going over to the Chiefs, bro? Yeah.

31:22KevOnStage:I love it over there, man.

31:24James Harrison:You was spazzing when you went out that thing.

31:26KevOnStage:I had to, man. Got Pat throwing me the ball, man. Yes, sir. Andy caught up the plays, man. It was a great experience, I would say, man, just going from New England and going to that locker room over there, man. And definitely a lot of, you know, big players over there. You know, I seen, like, walking in and seeing Trav. You know, he was in there catching jugs with his helmet on. Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, and I came around the time, like, they getting ready for the playoffs. Like, they end up, like, late end of the season. So, I got there around, like, December. Them guys, you know, training, you know, training hard.

31:52KevOnStage:But, like, it was loose. But, like, they also had confidence. You feel me? So, just going there and seeing how they went out there every day in practice. Like, practice was clean. You know, no balls on the ground. You know what I'm saying? It was fast. It was Crips. They go out there, you know what I'm saying? They'll be loose having fun, but when they step on the field. They get that job done. They get that job done. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, bro, this is what I'm about. You know, I love to have fun, but when you step on the field, like, that's where you craft that. So, man, just being there, you know, I signed P squad there.

32:17KevOnStage:So when I got there, you know, I was just watching them guys, observing. They threw me out there, man, and Pat was just slinging the ball, like, go get it. All you got to do is your part. I can do that. You know what I'm saying? You feel me? So that was the fun part about it, man. and I kept learning the offense and stuff like that. And I came back in the next season and it just all came to fruition. That's good shit, bro. They got a good culture.

32:39Trey Smith:From being drafted so high to actually coming back and being on practice squad, what was that process mentally like for you? Great question. How did that help you? How did that build you? What did that do for you? Because it obviously didn't throw you into the basement too far that you couldn't get out.

32:53KevOnStage:It didn't because, you know, I'm from Miami, so, you know, I had it hard growing up. You know what I'm saying? And again, drive the second round, you know what I'm saying? And going to New England and not performing like I really wanted to. When I went P squad, you know, it was a humbling moment. But, I mean, it was time for me to, like, get back to myself and, you know what I'm saying? And go back to my roots. Because I know I can play ball, you know. So, just going to KC and, like I said before, just starting back to square root one and working. You know what I'm saying? Getting it out the mud, putting that pain in.

33:20KevOnStage:And just going out there, just being myself. You know what I'm saying? Figuring out myself and not really blocking out the noise. That really what it was. I was just blocking out the noise and really locking in and just locking into the details and just focusing on finishing.

33:30Trey Smith:You think that second round draft choice actually got into your head and had you thinking that you was that dude without actually having to go out there and put that work in and then realizing, like, damn, I ain't doing how I'm supposed to do it. And then having to start back over. That's that grind. Yeah, for sure.

33:45KevOnStage:Got to keep yourself centered, huh? Yeah, and getting drafted second round, you know, when I got inside the locker room, they were like, oh, you know what I'm saying? The saying was like New England wasn't good at, you know, drafting receivers and stuff like that. So, like, it was a lot of pressure at that point, you know what I'm saying, by me being young and stuff like that. And so when I got out there, I was having fun with it. You know, I was doing my thing and practice and stuff like that. It's just in the games, it never, like, translated, you know what I'm saying? So, I mean, not really too many opportunities, you get what I'm saying?

34:09KevOnStage:And being a young player, I feel like you need to have those reps and opportunities so you go out there and, you know what I'm saying, see what you can really do. Yeah, for sure. For sure.

34:17Trey Smith:Look here, man. We want to thank y 'all fellas for joining us, man. Appreciate it. Bless, for sure. Yes, sir. Bless your highly favorite, you know what I'm saying? There's no question about it. Shirts gig. Nothing.

34:27Joe Haden:Appreciate you, Joe. I know what it is. I'm going to get some of the clothes. Yeah, I'm going to leave them over here for y 'all. Thank you, brother. What size you want? Large. What you want? XL?

34:35Trey Smith:You want me to wear that shit tight? Nah, it's up to you. Three X. You need to be slow. No, I'm a three X. You know what I'm saying? I do it, too. I do it, too. I do it, too. I got you, bro. Thank y 'all, fellas. My man, appreciate y 'all. Appreciate y 'all, man. Thank you, guys. Thank you, brother. Yes, sir.

34:56Trey Smith:You hold that chain, too, though. That boy, icy. I thought you was icy.

35:03James Harrison:That, I didn't, didn't I tell you? I said, that boy be fresh. Did you not hear me say that? Soon to be said, I seen him on there. That boy came in that band clean.

35:12Trey Smith:That man came out there. I don't know. That boy came in that thing clean.

35:16James Harrison:Super clean. What's up, boy?

35:18Trey Smith:What's up, boy? James, man.

35:19James Harrison:What's up? Joe, how you doing, man? All right.

35:23Trey Smith:Yes, sir. Okay.

35:35Yeah.

35:36Trey Smith:No, I'm saying I got to get the whole cut down. There we go. Get the background. Let's go. It's your boy, Romeo. You like this one, right? Right? Yeah.

35:56James Harrison:Romeo taking people up top.

35:58Trey Smith:Yeah. Yeah. Look here, man. We here with Romeo Dodds, wide receiver, Packers. Unrestricted. Free agent. I hear.

36:09James Harrison:This offseason? Yes, sir. Okay, okay, okay. High down? Yes, sir. Okay, okay. Options open.

36:14Trey Smith:Options open. Options open. Yeah. Look here, man. With the options open, what is it that you or where is it that you would want to be?

36:27KevOnStage:Man, I would love to be in Green Bay, bro. And, you know, it's not even, I think it's just how prestigious they are, how they go about things. You know what I'm saying? The discipline, the structure. Like, that's something that I would really want to be a part of, man. And, I mean, again, like y 'all said, you know, the options are open. But if I had to choose, bro, I'd love being in the bank.

36:51James Harrison:You would like to stay in the bank. Are you guys working on it? Y 'all talking? Or do you think it's looking?

36:57KevOnStage:Yeah, I mean, I know, yeah, we in the process. It's not trying to knock you. Conversation. Don't want to get you in trouble. Yeah, bro. So, yeah, man, I know it's a lot in the air. I understand the situation alone. and I'll be realistic about that, just the amount of dudes that are in that room, just the talent, just the youngness, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, and I'm self-aware of that situation, and I understand this business. Just got to be realistic about it as much as I want to be there. Again, whatever happens, happens. I'll just leave the rest unknown, but just to make it short, I'd love to be a green bag.

37:40KevOnStage:Keep it in mind.

37:42James Harrison:So I say you've got Jordan Love. He's there. So what would you say, as far as Matt LaFleur, is he more – is he an offensive coordinator? If he's an offensive guy, offensive mind, how would you say his coaching style is?

37:56KevOnStage:Oh, he is an offensive mind. And just throughout these four years being around him, I just thought, you know, like, I mean, growth is everything, but my football knowledge, obviously, he played a humongous role in that, and I gave him a ton of credit.

38:11James Harrison:Okay, so if I was, like, teaching you the game, understanding the ins and outs of it, not like, oh, run this post. This is why I'm going to run this post. This is why you want to do certain things. Okay.

38:20KevOnStage:And, again, that's the league. Like, you know, like you get in there first year, you lines on the paper, and you go into the next year, and then it's why are we running this for one high or two high? And then it's where you're at in the progression. And then from there, it's, okay, now what is the defense running? What are the packages on the field? So the football knowledge, the IQ, it just keeps stacking, bro. And, again, just from a foundational standpoint, I give him a ton of credit for that because I understand that the situation that we were in, you know, just in terms of how young our team was and just the experience, I thought the beauty in that was that we all learned as a unit rather than, you know, you come into the league at some point and there's a guy who already knows, you know what I'm saying, that's been there, bro.

39:08KevOnStage:Y 'all felt like you were going through it together. Yes, that's exactly what that was. And I've been saying that, you know, since Jaden came in and that group Wicks with Malik Heath, even though, like, I don't know, man, And it was just amazing that everyone learned together. And I understand. I know how broad that sounds. It's just unusual. And I've said this before that, you know, I don't know. That's just my personal take on it. Okay.

39:40James Harrison:So I can feel like you're basically saying like you're building something. Everybody's working together. Everybody's coming back. We're like, man, we don't have to start a new system, learning new things. We're like, now we're just putting on what we got next year. So it's no, yeah, I feel that.

39:53Trey Smith:With that process, brother, y 'all kind of went a dive bomb in the last quarter of the year. Yeah, I mean. What happened there? What was that? I don't know. Anything changed? I mean, was it full straight? Nah, bro, it was just.

40:13KevOnStage:I don't even know how to explain that to you, man. It's just. I'm going to just keep it.

40:17Trey Smith:Is it a feel? Was it a.

40:19KevOnStage:I'm going to just keep it real smooth. You know, it's football. That's the game. And the way how things played, that was just how they played out. I know, obviously, losing Micah was crucial down the stretch. You know, even before that, we had lost Tucker Craft, who was another big. Oh, yes, yes, yes. You know, and again, that's not ideal. You know, you don't wish that. You know, in those injuries, you don't wish that on your worst enemy. And, yeah, man, I mean, it was obviously tough to deal with. But I thought the way how we went about it, regardless of the result, you know, there was some growth to it.

40:56There was some positivity to it.

40:59KevOnStage:There was something to learn from. Like, it was just, you know, just being on the bright side of things. No, for sure.

41:04James Harrison:Yep, yep, yep. And I think, like you said, too, it's a couple plays here and there. It's the NFL. You're playing against good, good, good teams. So, I respect it. Yes, sir.

41:16James Harrison:So do you So I said on your Instagram post When you posted that Was that like almost a farewell post Cause it's

41:24KevOnStage:It looked kind of farewell-ish Nah man That's just me being as authentic As I can be Yeah bro cause again As much as I want to be there You know We all like Everybody like I'm not gonna say everybody dumb But we aware of the situation. Everybody knows our situation. There's a bunch of receivers in that room, and everybody in that room can go, bro. You know what I'm saying? And, again, that's just part of this league, bro. Just never know, bro. Just never know.

41:57Trey Smith:You got it. You got – well, I'm not going to ask you who you got looking at you or who you're in conversation with. But of all the teams that are potentially there, do you think Green Bay will be the one that has the best opportunity of getting the Super Bowl? Yes, sir. Okay.

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45:20James Harrison:My man, Dobbs is not bullshitting right here. In his heart, I feel he likes the team. They're growing together. It's cold. He come back there, the culture's going to be what it is. So you want to – you go somewhere else, you got to restart. You got to restart. You got to restart.

45:33KevOnStage:Yeah, man. I mean, and again, I'm just – I'm just aware of it. It's cold there, though. You got to – I mean, you got to have that, bro.

45:42Trey Smith:I mean, I know I'm from Cali, but – I'm just saying. That's what I'm saying. I'm out here right now. You out here. You know, we out here. Yeah, man. This 60 degrees. You see how I'm dressed. This 60 degrees. Yeah, man. This summer weather is me. I'm up here sweating. Look at that. I got sweat marks right here, brother. It's hot.

45:57James Harrison:I know what I'm going to be doing.

45:58Trey Smith:It's negative five back home.

46:00James Harrison:I'm going to be rooting for you to sign back with the Green Bay Packers, watch you spaz this year with a nice deal, and y 'all go win some stuff, bro. Yeah, for sure, man. I appreciate you, brother, for sure. Wish you the best, man.

46:09Trey Smith:Appreciate you. Thank you for pulling up. Appreciate you, man. Good luck. God bless. You know it. Look here. Go ahead. You got to get that? Yeah, go ahead. You got that. Appreciate you, bro.

46:22KevOnStage:Appreciate you, bro. All right. Y 'all have a blast, my man.

46:27Trey Smith:Yes, sir. For sure, for sure. Thank you for having a good one, bro. No question. Joe. Yes, sir. What time is it? It look like we might be having to get up out of here right now. Oh, man. It's time to go. Damn, it's already? How long was that? We got what?

46:42James Harrison:We got my man, Kevin.

46:43Trey Smith:Where he at?

46:44James Harrison:Right there.

46:45Trey Smith:Man, what you doing, Kev? Get up here, bro. What the hell was that? Move him out the way. You done cleaned up. You done lost some weight. I see, huh? man. Yeah. What's up, man? How you doing?

46:58James Harrison:Good to see you, man.

46:59Trey Smith:Good to see you, bro. Yes. Yes, sir. I've been locked in.

47:06James Harrison:No, no, I just did it myself.

47:07Trey Smith:You used a razor? Razor, yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't do that, man. Why not? I bump up like a pineapple patch. No, man, you got to go with the grain, with the grain. Bro, I peel hair off my head, skin. Oh, no. No, no. You got to slow down, man. You're going too hard. You're going too hard.

47:27James Harrison:I wasn't. Yeah. Well, first and foremost, I want to let you know, Cap, you're my favorite follow. Really? I promise you. I just watch you. He's like, do y 'all don't think I want to post all the time? Literally, I watch all the stuff. You make me laugh. Thank you.

47:42Trey Smith:I appreciate that. That's crazy, man. You locked down corner, man.

47:46James Harrison:You're Jay Jenner. Come on, man. Let's hear it, man. I saw that. I was like, I know him, but he might not know me. I know him. I feel like I know. I watch you all the time. I appreciate that. Thank you. Love it. Love you and your wife, the relationship. All the stuff you do, man. I appreciate that. It was so good. When I saw it, I'm like, okay, I know this guy. I don't even need to know. But who was your influence? Who influenced you to be a comedian? Man, I think there were so many people probably in order. Jonathan Slocum was the first Christian comedian who I found funny that wasn't like church, church, church, church, church.

48:23James Harrison:But maybe the most impactful thing outside of like Def Jam and Comic View was like the kings of comedy. When I saw the kings of comedy in theaters and like Bernie Mac said, everybody was great, but Bernie Mac said, I was like, yo, it's impossible to be this funny. Like I never laughed that hard. I thought I was going to have an asthma attack. It was one of me and my wife's first things we did. We were still dating and still in high school. And I was like, yo, comedy had never, I've never seen comedy in a movie theater and it was packed and all those black people in the arena. And at that point, I was like, yo, I want to do that.

48:53James Harrison:Want to do that. Like, I think I can try that because I wanted to get to that level. Yeah. Yeah. I could tell, man, because long story short, you've been doing amazing. Thank you. That's all I could say. Thank you. High school, how old are you? I'm 42.

49:09James Harrison:47. I thought you were older. No. You thought I was older? No. How old did you think I was? My age. 47? I mean, I'm probably going to look the same when I look 47. 47, yeah.

49:20Trey Smith:I ain't saying, you know, hey, hey. I know you, what, Washington, right?

49:25James Harrison:Yeah, Washington State. Yeah, I was Washington State for 13 years. Seattle? You a Seattle fan? Seattle, absolutely. Seattle fan. Tacoma, Washington specifically. So who you got? Seattle.

49:35Trey Smith:Why you make you say that instead of just for you? I mean, just because you're home-based? Is it just because you're a homer or do you really believe?

49:40James Harrison:No, no, no. So the thing is, I really do believe. Okay. I think what the Seahawks do well. You hope or you believe. No, no, I believe. You believe. Like, the Seahawks play really disciplined football. Yes. Right? You got the core to a Super Bowl winning game. You got a defense. Yes. You got a quarterback who doesn't make a lot of mistakes. Yes. Strong running game. The Charbonnet loss is a bigger loss than people think. Yes. You know, because Kenneth Walker and Charbonnet is a good one-two punch. But the one intangible, I think, is Drake May. Drake May is prone to make a mistake or two. And in this close of a game with these matchups, his mistake or two, his youth inexperience might be the difference maker.

50:21Trey Smith:You do not see his decision-making in that last game where he took and sat down on things that he normally would have tried to make happen.

50:28James Harrison:No, no, I'm not saying he's going to. Of the two, you know, Sam will take a wild throw here and there too. That's where I'm at with it. Sam will take a wild. So I think literally it's super cliche to say turnovers matter. Yes. But it's going to be who makes the mistakes. who makes the most mistakes because Patriots are a big play team as well. Travion Henderson, they had a lot of big plays. They got a lot of speed outside. They got a good defense. But I think the Seahawks' defense is a little better, and they turned the ball over. And I'm just hoping the moment's too big for Drake May. That's my biggest hope.

51:01James Harrison:The moment's too big. I'm with you because I'm looking at it the same way. I'm looking at it. It's Drake May, and the only person I'm looking at for the Seattle Seahawks, Sam Darnold. It's the same player, really. It's the same thing. So whoever does, just don't mess it up for us. We got too much of a good team. Who are you with right now? When I'm talking right here, when I'm talking with my man Kevin, I'm with the Seattle Seahawks, okay? Damn, Deebo don't know how to move. He don't know how to flow. Right now, I'm with Kevin.

51:26Trey Smith:You got to have the adequate energy for what you're sitting with.

51:29James Harrison:Right now, we're talking like we want the Seahawks to win. Yeah. Sam Darnold. What do you think, Jay? What do you think? Mr. Patriot, he was there for a month. Patriots. I was there for six days.

51:41Trey Smith:No, I was there for six weeks.

51:43James Harrison:Okay.

51:44Trey Smith:Okay? There for six weeks. Okay?

51:47James Harrison:So who do you think is going to win?

51:49Trey Smith:Patriots. By how? Easily. Your boy go slang that thing, and he go give it to somebody else. I promise you. You're talking about Sam, don't. Listen, it's going to get too big for him. For Sam.

51:59James Harrison:He's saying for Sam. He's saying we're going to win because of Sam.

52:02Trey Smith:They got Tom Brady in there right now talking to this man. They got Tom Brady in there right now. Tom Brady, he ain't on the field? It don't matter. He's telling him, don't do nothing crazy. This is what you need to do. This is what you got. You see what he did when it was against Denver? Plays where he would normally, he said, nope, let me sit down. Yeah, yeah, no.

52:15James Harrison:He did, but here's the thing.

52:16Trey Smith:He said, nope, let me kneel on.

52:17James Harrison:The other thing I think of is the NFC West toughest division in football this year. The Seahawks had to play a gauntlet of teams. Yes. The Patriots didn't have to play as many good teams.

52:28Trey Smith:And they're still fresh.

52:29James Harrison:They're still fresh. But I think those wins, those wins, those hard-fought wins against teams that might be even better than you, like the Rams might have been better than the Seahawks. Yes, they might have been better. But also you need a little luck. You do. That last play when Lawrence and them double-teamed Kyron out the backfield, you need a little luck. But Drake May has an MVP caliber season. I'm not saying he's going to come out and mess up. I'm just saying he's going to mess up. Absolutely. I'm hoping he mess up early and get rattled. The last three weeks, he hasn't been looking too good.

53:01James Harrison:Bruh. So I'm looking like, okay. They didn't get the best Broncos team. Nope. Right. With the backup. With Stidham. Which I'm not even mad. That's part of the game is health. You know, you play who's in front of you. I don't hold it against them. But Seahawks got the best of the Rams. The 49ers were a little hurt. I'll give you that. But you did go to the Rams. But you got the best of the Rams. A little hurt. They were really hurt. They were beat to death. They was dragging people in there, man.

53:28Trey Smith:Come on. They might have called me. Look, listen. You're a cleaner speaking comedian. Like, do you actually have to, like, sit down and write stuff out or do it just, like, come naturally? It comes natural.

53:42James Harrison:I'm a church kid, and in my family, you could not cuss. Like, you couldn't even get caught slipping. It was actually more okay to get a girl pregnant and have a baby than to get caught cussing. Because you just get married and keep going. You just get married and keep going. Or just bring the baby home. We got the baby shower meatballs. We'll be happy. But I don't really cuss in life, so it's not hard for me to cuss, not to cuss on stage. And I think it's a little harder. Like, cussing is funny. So I think people who don't cuss usually are more articulate with their words in comedy, not in life.

54:15James Harrison:Because you don't have, you can't lean on cuss words. Sometimes a cuss word is a great step on a joke. Yes, damn. It's a get out of jail free card. So all that. But because I didn't have that, I just had to make it work. So I think now I'm a little better than. That's what it is. Yeah. You should put your words together. You got to. You got to. There's a lot more words than the cuss words. Absolutely. And cuss words are funny. It's probably so funny when little kids cuss. It's funny when old people cuss. It's so funny when little kids cuss. Oh, my God. That's my favorite content. They just repeat what they heard.

54:43James Harrison:They don't realize what they're saying. They don't know what's going on. It's hilarious. Them saying regular words ain't funny. Talking about, what is that?

54:51Trey Smith:A fucking goat? No. It's hilarious. No, it's a fucking goat. It's hilarious. You're not lying. Yeah. Yeah. Hold on. I got to show you my shirt. I started to wear it, but I forgot.

55:09Trey Smith:I'm worried tomorrow I'm worried tomorrow That's hilarious

55:16James Harrison:I'm worried tomorrow I don't know how I never thought of that That's funny Yeah for sure man It's been hilarious I appreciate y 'all man Thank y 'all for having me on Thank you for coming man

55:30Trey Smith:We all trying to pin us off Yes we are huh Yeah.

55:34James Harrison:He did this.

55:36Trey Smith:Yes. You saw that. Yeah. Hey. We can go five more? We can go five more. Keep moving, man. We're my good man, Kev.

55:42James Harrison:I need that. Okay. And I spent 13 years there, and then I moved to L.A. I guess it was 13 years ago. Okay. So I started following the Seahawks at 99 when we moved there. Because El Paso, everybody was a Cowboys fan, and my family was just like anti what everybody liked. Yeah. So the Cowboys were winning. We were like, nah. So we rooted for the 49ers for a while, but that never really felt like my team. So in 99, I was with the Seahawks. When they stunk, they lost to the Super Bowl. They were cheated. Ben Roethlisberger didn't get the first down. Ben Roethlisberger did get the first down. He went on the Tonight Show after that.

56:17James Harrison:I thought my headphones. You heard me. Seahawks were cheated. 0-5. Walter Jones deserved his Super Bowl. Tell him, Cam. Yeah. Willie Parker broke that runoff. I was like, God damn it, Willie Parker. Yeah. And then Willie Parker, man. I didn't see Willie Parker for five years. Willie Parker was missing after that. But he broke that run, man.

56:36Trey Smith:Yeah. I mean, what are you talking about? The Pittsburgh Steelers. That's what we do. Yeah, it was. Like, what are you talking about? Like, I was just over there on special teams just, you know, slapping whoever was running the ball. You know what I'm saying? I ain't going to lie. That was one of the easier Super Bowls that I was doing. Wow. Dang. Wow.

56:55James Harrison:What was the harder one? Arizona? Arizona. Yeah, that was a good. You changed that game. Yes, he did. You changed that game. A little bit. What does that feel like? You know that that's basically a 14-point swing. To be honest with you. You stole a touchdown. And scored a touchdown. That's 14 points. At least seven. At least. No, you took seven and you gave seven. You scored seven. You didn't stop seven. Say 10.

57:26Trey Smith:Say 10. No, I'm going to say it for the four-wheel goal. No.

57:28James Harrison:Because if you – say you get caught and then y 'all fumble, you just stop seven. Right?

57:33Trey Smith:Yes.

57:34James Harrison:So you stop seven and then you – it ain't guaranteed score. Every turnover don't need to score. No. That's 14-point swing. And the clock ran out. Killer. If you just got tackled at the one, there's no more plays. Yeah.

57:45Trey Smith:I ain't going to lie to you. I know that, but I like to hear y 'all talk about it. I can make like I'm humble. You know, I can make like I'm humble. It was only 10. No, no, make it 14. You know it was 14. No, it was 10.

57:57James Harrison:Do you realize in the moment you're in the Super Bowl and this is happening, or are you just like, don't go down, don't go down, don't go down?

58:04Trey Smith:Like, well, what happened is Coach LeBoa had told us all week, like, if you score a defensive touchdown, this is what it looks like. It was like an 80-something, 86, 89 % chance that you win the game. So anytime we got an interception in practice, we'd literally run the whole length of the field. We don't care if we got it at the five, and they'd wait for us to start the next play. We'd run back. Oh, dang. We kept doing that. Full speed. Oh, yeah, full speed. Everybody get a block. Okay. Dude, and we got in the game, and it was like, boom, here it is. Like I said before, even on that play, I was supposed to blitz.

58:34Trey Smith:Really? You didn't know that? No. I was supposed to blitz. It was an all-out blitz. So what makes you decide nah? Well, Coach LeBeau gave us leniency. He gave us leeway to be able to make choices because we're right there in the game. He said, I'm not out there with you. If you see something, you got a good hypothesis. Trust your instinct. So we were just getting there a step too late. And I'm like, you know what? I'm going to step, get to tackle the step at me. And I know that I'll send Timmons up free. So I do that. And as I step back, I'm looking at Kurt. He's looking at me. But that was when the Pro Bowl was after the Super Bowl.

59:11Trey Smith:Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I asked him, I'm like, dude, like, what happened? He said, you were supposed to be blitzing. He said, I wasn't even looking for you. He said, so I looked straight through you. He's like, I was looking at, he said, I didn't even see the ball. I didn't even see you until the ball left my hand.

59:24James Harrison:So quarterbacks, I've always wanted to really say he didn't see them. Yeah. He really did.

59:29Trey Smith:So once you took that step. Because he knew I was supposed to be blitzing. Once I took that step, I got covered. He's gone. By the tackle. Yeah. He tackle steps at me, so he's thinking, I'm gone. That's gone. I'm coming on the outside. He knows Timmons is shooting in on him free, so he's got to get it off. Boom, boom, boom. So he comes back. And as he releases it, he sees me coming from behind the tackle. Because he's covered up. And he's like. That is crazy. Yeah. So in that process, bro, we just took off. And by the time I got halfway, bro, I'm like, I feel like I've been running for like a whole minute.

1:00:01Trey Smith:I'm like, damn, I got to make it. If I don't make it, it's going to be over with. It's all for nothing. Yeah, all for nothing. Listen, man. Crazy. Wow, that's amazing, man. That's crazy. Hey, look here. Great play, Deebo. Is it anything right now that you think is funny that's too hot to touch right now as a comedian? Like, ooh. I don't, like, because they cracking down on what they're thinking is funny. You know what I'm saying?

1:00:28James Harrison:Here's the thing about comedy. The harder it is to touch something and the hotter it is, really the better of a comedian you have to be. Because there's always a way to make a joke. But one, you've got to be really smart to get it off. Or two, you've got to be prepared to deal with the consequences. A lot of times people just want to say whatever they want and they don't want to deal with the consequences. And it's like, you know, in athletics, you know sometimes if I say I'm going to get a fine, but it might be worth it. So you got people just a lot of times comedians just don't want to get in trouble and it don't work like that.

1:00:59James Harrison:So there's a lot of stuff I don't want to touch just because I don't want to deal with it. Yeah. So I just be as my star grows, I just fall away from a lot of stuff because I just don't want no smoke. Yeah. But it's also not really my subject matter anyway. I let the political comedians do political comedy because you've got to know a lot more to be smart about that. Yeah. Yeah. Makes sense. But I can get a joke in here and there. Mm-hmm.

1:01:18Trey Smith:Get a joke in here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look here, look here, man. Hey, Kev. Kev, on stage, we want to thank you for coming out. Thank you. Thank you, man. They spinning us again. I guess we up out of here. Don't be doing this to me. Do like, hey, Sam. He'll give you the double hands. Do like this, Sam. Huh? I think it's about that time. Don't do that. Sure. All right, look here, man. We want to thank y 'all for joining us this episode of Deebo and Joe. Yes, sir. Look here. Oh, nigga, wifey, how you doing? I feel like I know you, too. make sure you like subscribe and uh download wherever you can hey and we out peace

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