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Nightcap Podcast Episode Summary
Episode Title
Super Bowl LX Radio Row Day 2: Part 1 - AD Mitchell, Jay Glazer & Kirk Herbstreit join!
Podcast Overview Nightcap is a nighttime sports talk podcast featuring legends Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson. The hosts provide their unfiltered takes on sports headlines from the NFL, NBA, and college football, and share instant reactions to major games.
Episode Description In this episode, hosts James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden broadcast live from San Francisco Radio Row ahead of Super Bowl LX, which features the Seattle Seahawks vs. the New England Patriots. The episode includes guests such as Jay Glazer, AD Mitchell, and Kirk Herbstreit.
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Key Highlights and Discussions
Opening Segment
- Hosts: James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden kick off with a light-hearted banter about their workout routines and evening activities.
- Setting: Live from Super Bowl 60 Radio Row, discussing the excitement of the Super Bowl and their activities from the previous night.
Guest Appearances
- Jay Glazer
- Career: Talks about his long journey in sports journalism and emphasizes the importance of building relationships over just breaking news.
- Mental Health: Discusses the need for athletes to be open about mental health challenges and the support systems among athletes.
- AD Mitchell
- Background: A two-time national champion who discusses his experiences in college football and his transition to the NFL.
- Diabetes Awareness: Shares his journey with Type 1 diabetes and introduces Dexcom G7, a continuous glucose monitor that has changed his life.
- Kirk Herbstreit
- Discussion on College Football: Talks about the current landscape of college football, particularly how NIL deals affect player retention and development.
- Coaching: Expresses concerns about young players lacking fundamentals due to the current focus on star power and immediate results.
Central Themes
- Quarterback Development:
- Discussion on the perceived lack of development for quarterbacks in the NFL and how coaching quality can impact player success.
- Emphasis on the importance of building a supportive team environment for quarterback growth.
- Mental Health in Sports:
- Glazer highlights the importance of vulnerability among athletes and how it helps to create a supportive community.
- The evolution of mental health discussions in professional sports.
- Fundamentals vs. Flash:
- Concerns about young athletes focusing on highlight plays instead of learning the foundational skills necessary for success.
- The impact of social media on player development and the culture of instant gratification.
Closing Remarks
- The episode ends with discussions on the upcoming Super Bowl matchups, predictions for MVP winners, and the importance of teamwork for success.
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Key Takeaways
- Relationship Building: Relationships in sports media are crucial for long-term success and integrity in reporting.
- Mental Health Advocacy: Acknowledging mental health challenges and fostering open discussions are vital for athlete well-being.
- Player Development: A shift in focus is needed to ensure athletes learn the fundamentals of their respective sports while navigating the pressures of modern expectations.
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Conclusion This episode of Nightcap provides an engaging mix of sports talk, personal stories, and critical discussions about the state of professional sports, particularly concerning mental health and player development. The insights shared by the guests highlight the complex dynamics of sports in today's era, making it a must-listen for sports enthusiasts.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOWorkout Reflections
3:00 to 4:02
The hosts discuss their workout experiences from the previous day.
“I was thinking before we went out there, you said we got an hour on the treadmill.”
Socializing at Shannon's Party
4:02 to 4:40
Debo and Joe share their experiences from a party they attended.
“You had a good time last night with Shannon's party.”
Late Night and Sleep Schedules
4:40 to 5:36
The hosts talk about their late-night adventures and adjusting to sleep schedules.
“Hey, what time did you get out of there?”
Amazon Delivery Mishap
5:36 to 8:14
Debo recounts a funny incident involving an Amazon delivery gone wrong.
“That I don't know because I was contemplating.”
Concerns about Family
8:14 to 10:46
The hosts discuss a situation involving Debo's son and the importance of accountability.
“listen, I'm going to order 10 cases for you next time.”
Highlights from Radio Row
10:46 to 11:28
Debo and Joe reflect on their experiences at Radio Row during Super Bowl week.
“We out here, Radio Row, Super Bowl week, feeling good, hanging out.”
Jay Glazer's Career Insights
12:20 to 14:03
Jay shares his journey in sports journalism and the importance of relationships.
“Yeah, you haven't had a long time to build great relationships here.”
Mental Health and Team Dynamics
14:03 to 17:36
Explore the importance of relationships and mental health in high-pressure environments.
“So Stray drove me back into New York City.”
Breaking News and Insider Secrets
17:36 to 21:34
Discover the challenges insiders face with breaking news and the changing media landscape.
“But I know you're real big on the mental health aspect.”
Vulnerability and Brotherhood
21:34 to 26:14
Learn about the significance of vulnerability in fostering deep friendships and support systems.
“Thousands of businesses have made the switch, so why not you?”
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AD Mitchell on His NFL Journey
29:11 to 31:00
AD discusses his journey as a second-round draft pick and the surprise of being traded.
“wanted you know oh yeah more so than more so than not being wanted anymore i mean second round draft choice, that's kind of wanted.”
Bouncing Back from Adversity
31:01 to 33:06
Mitchell reflects on overcoming challenges in his career, including accountability.
“So, I said you had – I watched the game when you had the little fumble against the closer to the end zone.”
Managing Diabetes and Training
34:51 to 36:44
AD discusses the challenges of managing diabetes while training as an athlete.
“So how many times before this had you been in a situation where, like, you're in the game or something, and you're like, I'm dying.”
Preparing for the Offseason
36:45 to 38:34
The guests talk about offseason training and staying in shape.
“AD, we want to thank you for joining us, brother.”
The Changing Landscape of College Football Recruitment
42:00 to 44:30
Discussing how recruitment strategies and player transfers have evolved in college football.
“You build through the draft, and you kind of sprinkle in some free agents.”
Evaluating Young Quarterbacks and Their Skills
47:25 to 54:40
Analyzing the challenges and attributes of emerging quarterbacks in the NFL.
“How do you feel about Fernando Mendoza, though?”
The Importance of Fundamentals in Football
54:40 to 56:00
Discussing the key fundamentals and understanding needed for success in football.
“so when you cut in there my first rookie year after the second year you start learning what everybody's around you doing.”
Coaching Aspirations and Personal Connections
56:00 to 56:58
Explore the speaker's transition to coaching and personal anecdotes about pets.
“everything he has to say because i know i've seen greatness in him and now he's coaching and telling me what to do.”
Event Ticket Dreams
57:35 to 58:58
Discussion on the value of experiencing live sports events courtside versus in a suite.
“Congrats on all of you guys and all your success.”
Matchup Analysis: JSN vs. Gonzalez
58:58 to 1:04:02
Examine how to define a successful matchup between two football players.
“I'm going any game seven basketball championship floor courtside.”
Quarterback Development Issues in the NFL
1:04:02 to 1:07:26
Discussion on the quarterback development problem in the NFL and its coaching implications.
“It's just that how many opportunities is he going to get?”
Transcript
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2:39Jay Glazer:Welcome to this episode of Debo and Joe. I'm your host, James Debo Harrison. I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden. Look here, baby. Please make sure you like, subscribe, and download the show wherever you get your podcast. I'm going to mute this so y 'all can't hear me. Yes, sir. Look here, man. We live from Radio Row here at Super Bowl 60. Yes, sir.
3:00James Harrison:Yo. What's up, Debo? How you doing today? I'm doing great, brother. Doing great. I'm not too sore from yesterday. Great workout, you know, not too crazy. A little core, a little. The cardio was crazy. I was thinking before we went out there, you said we got an hour on the treadmill. And I'm like, There's no way I can do an hour on a treadmill no matter what. Elevation, the miles an hour, heart rate was going, but I knew I could do it because I wasn't going to let myself down from doing a treadmill walk with you. No question. No question, brother. It was good work, good work.
3:33Jay Glazer:How did you feel, though? I felt great. I felt great.
3:36James Harrison:The great sweat, great everything, brother. I felt amazing. Core is good, looking good, feeling good. I was a core workout. Great core workout, too. But that's what I'm trying to do. My hips are a little tight. You saw the little drill when I'm kicking my legs up. That hip bad.
3:47Jay Glazer:You were talking about how you're kicking that leg in. Tell them what's going on.
3:51James Harrison:I got a hip impingement, D-Bo. And it's been happening for a while. I need to get rehab, wanted some treatment. But, yeah, my hip flexors are just a little too tight. Okay. I got to loosen them up. I'm going to get some treatment, get some rehab. Got to get the dry needling.
4:03Jay Glazer:I understand. You had a good time last night with Shannon's party.
4:07James Harrison:Yes, yes, yes. Shea Shea party was dope. Got to see a lot of friends. Steve and Nate was there. TJ Ward. Richard Sherman. Running in the dudes is always, always a good time.
4:16Jay Glazer:Yeah, definitely. So I ran into a couple people. But it's kind of hard to talk to people there like they're in your ear.
4:25James Harrison:You can't really hear. You can't really hear. You know what I'm saying? Let me see.
4:28Jay Glazer:So.
4:32James Harrison:Oh, yeah, because I got to get into the mic.
4:33Jay Glazer:All right, I'm going to scoot up closer.
4:34James Harrison:Yeah, get in there, Debo, because I don't know if we can hear you.
4:35Jay Glazer:They saying they can't hear us. They saying they can't hear us. Can y 'all hear us now? Can you hear me now? Good, good, good. All right. Can you hear me now? Can you hear me now? All right. So, we got that. We did that. Hey, what time did you get out of there?
4:51James Harrison:That time I get out of the park? I saw you make the Irish exit. You ain't say bye to nobody. I thought you was going to the bathroom, and then you just slid. So, you probably left around 1130. I was there probably 20, 21 minutes after. I got out of the night. I ain't stay out too late. Midnight. Midnight. Because we had to be up here shooting. This is 8 o 'clock. This is 8 o 'clock shoot. Waking up 6 o 'clock in the morning is different than back in the East coast.
5:14Jay Glazer:Yeah, yeah, for sure, man. I got out of here. I looked at my clock. It was 10.59. I told somebody, I said, we about to be out of here at 11. As soon as it clicked 11, I said, hey, it's time to go. By the time I looked down, got everything going. You know, it was 11.11. I was out the door. Great time. 11.11. 11.11. You was out of there. 11.11. What time would you
5:38James Harrison:sleep?
5:41Jay Glazer:That I don't know because I was contemplating. Should I go and get up? Yeah, go ahead. I got you. Yeah. So should I go and get up and try and keep my East Coast time? Because you're still on that clock.
5:57James Harrison:Did you change your clock? Did you change your clock yet? I had to. Are you still? Okay, okay. I had to.
6:02Jay Glazer:That one o 'clock get up?
6:03James Harrison:You was getting a one o 'clock. It's crazy.
6:05Jay Glazer:That one o 'clock get up kind of hurt. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Especially, you know, when you had me out.
6:09James Harrison:All night.
6:10Jay Glazer:Eating. You know what I'm saying? And that sets back my 16 hours where I need to fast and, you know, get my body to adjust and start burning. Yes, yes, yes. Okay, no, for sure.
6:21James Harrison:My bad. My bad throwing off your schedule. Yeah, you threw all my schedule.
6:24Jay Glazer:That's all right, though. It's all good. That's all right because I had a schedule right after this.
6:26James Harrison:What about the video, though, about your man throwing all your waters on your driveway? I couldn't believe when you posted it. I thought it was fake. I thought it was like, I know those are your type waters because, you know, when we got here, you went to the grocery store and you got 30 gallons of water. I went nothing but like three, four cases. A liter and a half. You're a hydrated man. I'm hydrated. But your man, disrespect it, he was throwing them drugs all over your damn doorstep. Listen. What's good with him? They got to be playing.
6:52Jay Glazer:You got to play that. You got to show the video of him throwing stuff on TV. Amazon, man, he was a little upset that I ordered, what was it, five cases of water. Yes. I mean, it's cheaper on there.
7:05James Harrison:That's why you order it on there. That's one thing that gets me to. You're supposed to be delivering the stuff. Yeah. You bagged it in and you just throwing it all on your doorstep. Dropping it hard, too. Disrespect it. Disrespect it.
7:17Jay Glazer:Dropping it hard, too. Disrespect with you, bro. Hit me with the see you next Tuesday, too. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? What did he say? But I don't think he know. Because, you know, I had my packages dropped in different names. I never put my name in the package. Yeah, it don't say James Harrison. No, no, it don't say that. It don't say, like, Rob. Rob. It got some felonious, like, out of control names. You know what I'm saying? And so he came and he dropped the first two. And he really wasn't that upset about the first two. But the next two he dropped, yeah. He was like, just, yeah, yeah.
7:52Jay Glazer:Just order all the fucking orders. Order all the fucking orders, why don't you? Why don't you? Yeah, yeah. Let's fucking do it. He's like, let's do it. Ah, man. And then, dude, the last one, though, that he dropped, dude. Oh, he was, yeah, he was hot about that. He left with the see you next two. Oh, he's pissed. Oh, dude. Now you're going to order more though. Yeah, I'm going to order 10 next time. Got you. Hey, to the Amazon driver out there that dropped the water at my house, listen, I'm going to order 10 cases for you next time. So get yourself in the weight room. You're going to have a lot of work to do.
8:30Jay Glazer:What y 'all want me to do? You want me to drop this mic or something? You want me to lift the mic? What you want? It's close. It's close? It's close enough or too close? No, no. Okay. Man, I got to have my mic so close to this. Y 'all need to get some better mics. What do you mean, tilt it down? Tilt it down like that? That good? That cool? Up a little more. There you go. Perfect. Perfect. Listen. So, look here, man. Yes, brother. I just got a phone call, right? Mm-hmm. From? From my son. Okay. All right. Is everything okay? Everything okay. He got into a little altercation. A little squabble You know what I ain't even Go get Let's not even get Making me hot No no don't Let's keep real relaxed I want to find out Who his daddy is So I go see him I want to find out Who the kid he had the issue I want to find out Who his daddy is So I go see him Yeah yeah yeah Cause that ain't something That you know When you do something like that That's something you done You either got from your friends Or you done learned at home You know what I'm saying And you go ahead And you regurgitate that shit You know
9:32James Harrison:Yeah so Okay You know Don't want you to get Don't get too mad right now You need to be held accountable For sure You can't just get away with doing stuff for no reason. There's consequences. And then it upset me a little bit. Reconcussions to action.
9:44Jay Glazer:Like, he didn't follow the protocol. My son didn't follow the protocol. Protocol is to touch you.
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9:49James Harrison:Oh, he put his hands on your son first.
9:51Jay Glazer:Bruh, you touch, you touch, you touch.
9:53James Harrison:Keep your hands to yourself. Then after that, I don't stop until somebody pulled me off. He didn't follow the protocol. Okay. Because you was a little hot at your son. I'm hot at the whole situation. You're hot at the whole situation. Whole situation. I'm hot.
10:07Jay Glazer:I am hot. I ain't gonna lie. I'm hot.
10:08James Harrison:I'm sorry. Don't let it get to you, brother. I ain't going to lie. You're going to be all right. I'm supposed to be getting a call like, hey, you know, he need a lawyer or something.
10:19Jay Glazer:You know what I'm saying? Because he put hands on my son and he wasn't. It took five teachers to get him up off of him or something. You know what I'm saying? Like, you're going to learn there's repercussions and consequences to you, man. To your actions. To your actions. There's repercussions and consequences out here, Joe, man. I just don't understand it, man. What's good?
10:36James Harrison:Debo. Bruh. Go ahead. I'm going to switch. I'm switching. Let's go. I need your energy to get right because I know you're getting mad about your son and all that. But, you know, he's going to be good. He's going to be good. We out here, Radio Row, Super Bowl week, feeling good, hanging out. Yesterday was a great time. Last night was a great time. What was your best part of the party? My favorite part of the party.
10:59Jay Glazer:My favorite part of the party.
11:00James Harrison:Yes. Listen, the music was. Music was good. Music was good. Music was good. I had a good time. I mean, our conversation with Stephen A was lit. I had a good time when we was talking, when we chopped it up with Stephen A. Yeah, yeah, I told you. You know. It is what it is. It is what it is. He gets it. He gets it. Yeah, for sure. He gets it.
11:16Jay Glazer:He gets you. You'd be surprised at what you know, but you don't know, but you know. Just from reading in between the lines. You feel me? If you know, you know. If you know, you know. Okay, there we go.
11:27James Harrison:Oh, my. There he is. We got Mr. J. Glazer. Mr. J. How you doing, baby? Good to see you, man. How you doing, baby? Doing good? I know it. Yes, sir. Welcome, Jay. What's cracking? Man, nothing much, nothing much.
11:42Joe Haden:Am I allowed out of this up here or no?
11:44James Harrison:Yes, for sure. I can tell you. I don't know why you ain't. You put whatever you want, Jay. It's on you. It's your word.
11:48Jay Glazer:I don't know who the sponsors are. I don't know. Hell, I don't know. I guess I ain't seen the check from them, but I guess it's not possible. Maybe I'll get you guys paid down for this. Man, that's what I'm saying.
11:59James Harrison:You put whatever you want up there, Jay.
12:01Jay Glazer:Hey, man, we want to thank you for joining us here, man. Absolutely. We know you've been doing what you've been doing for a long time. 93. Yes, yes.
12:09Joe Haden:No, 91 was my first draft.
12:11Jay Glazer:Draft?
12:11Joe Haden:Yeah. 91? Yeah, 91. How about that? Joe wasn't even born.
12:15James Harrison:Yes, I was. I was two. I was two. I was 89, Jay.
12:18Joe Haden:That's crazy. Actually, in that draft, I was rolling around Joe and his little crib and stuff. Yeah, yeah. I like that. I like that. I like that. A little carriage. I have my bib and my dipe. Hold on.
12:34Jay Glazer:Yeah, you haven't had a long time to build great relationships here. Yeah, no doubt.
12:39Joe Haden:That's what it's about, man, relationships, you know. Everybody tries to go for the scoop instead of the relationship. Exactly. They get it wrong.
12:45Jay Glazer:Yeah, yeah. Why is that that you're okay with waiting to get the story out correct instead of trying to go ahead and jump there and be the first one? Yeah.
12:54Joe Haden:You know, when I started covering the Giants in 93, I walked in that Giant locker room and I'm like, man, how could I be different? I had no education. I got kicked out of my first college. I had, like, no education, no experience, but I'm like, how could I be different? Well, one thing I can do is I'm always looking to fight, you know? So I'm like, all right, if these guys work 40 hours a week, I'll work 100. Just nonstop, nonstop, nonstop. But also I looked and said, man, how could I be different? I think these guys all use their pen as a weapon. I'm going to start relationships. And look, we're just in sports, man.
13:30Joe Haden:I'm not covering the Middle East. I take ourselves too seriously, right? Right. So I started relationships. And my best friend, obviously, since day one, was my baby sister, Michael Strahan, you know?
13:41Jay Glazer:Baby. That was out of the gate, right?
13:45Joe Haden:And it's funny because back then, I was making$9 ,400 a year. And I didn't have enough money. I was living in New York City. I didn't have enough, not in great areas. and I didn't have enough to take a subway to a bus to Giant Stadium and back every day. So Stray drove me back into New York City. He lived in Jersey every single day from 93 to 99. And the days he didn't, Kurt Menefee did. She was our host, right?
14:14Jay Glazer:Shout out to them two boys.
14:15Joe Haden:But no doubt, right? And here we are all working together. So I owe him like$38 ,000 to Lincoln Tunnel Fair. Oh, for sure. At least. But back then, too, it was just like these relationships. and you guys have heard me talk a lot about mental health now. And what people never got is I need teams for here to get the roommates in my head to talk nicely to each other. Yes. You guys were all part of my team. You know, I'll never forget Dan Quinn, man, probably about eight years ago. I'm at the height, like I'm on year four of Ballers. I'm hosting the UFC. I'm number one insider in Fox Antibale Sunday.
14:51Joe Haden:And I'm on my training camp tour that I was going to, right, for years, right? You guys see me. And DQ's like, what are you doing here? I said, what do you mean? He goes, no, what are you doing here? I said, what do you mean? He said, haven't you moved up and on for this? I said, bro, there is no up and on for this. You guys are my male love. You guys in the fight world are my male love. There's no up and on for this. That's really where the relationships came from. I always looked at us like we're on one team.
15:19James Harrison:No, I love that, man, because that's the biggest part. When you really build that real genuine friendship, you feel like people are looking out for it. And you're that guy. And listen, I've had tough stories and some friends.
15:29Joe Haden:Like I broke all the Balco stuff. A bunch of my guys were using, you know? And I'm like, hey, you'd rather I put it out than somebody else. For sure. I'm going to go right down the middle, you know?
15:38James Harrison:Right. What would you say, is there any scoop that you had that somebody kind of like got out right before you that you would kind of... Oh, it happens all the time.
15:45Joe Haden:Because I wait for Fox NFL Sunday. So like this year it happened a couple times. So like this year I was going to report Brandon Graham was coming out of retirement and no one knew. and it got out, man, maybe seven minutes before. Because I go on it at, what time is our show? Nine? Yeah, I think I'm showing nine. Yeah, nine o 'clock, right? So it got out like 8.52. I'm like, damn. But that's what, because listen, the business has changed. Now what I want to make sure I do is I break stuff on Fox and Evil Sunday that nobody has ever heard. and you will, man, you're coming out of left field with this.
16:27Joe Haden:Where I used to do it and the way people do it now is you broke news. Everybody steals it on Twitter. I don't work for Twitter. I work for Fox, right? And that's not breaking news. That's not being an insider. That's just who can tweet fastest. Well, I can't tweet faster than everybody else, right? So I'm going to have stuff on that nobody else has. Like a couple weeks ago, you know, Matt Ryan's on the CBS show opposite us and I come on to, hey, the Atlanta Falcons are looking to hire Matt Ryan to be their new president of football operations. That came out of left field. Yes. And obviously that's what's happened, right?
16:59Joe Haden:Mm-hmm. Or I came on with the security report that D.K. Metcalf had filed. I'm going to lie to you.
17:07Jay Glazer:I broke that before you, but you actually went on front. You know what I'm saying? I broke that before you, but you actually went on front. You know what I'm saying? Go ahead, baby.
17:14Joe Haden:But that same show I broke, I had the actual security report that DK Metcalf had filed with the Seahawks about that same fan in Detroit the year before. It had all that, right? So that's stuff that you can't just steal from me on Twitter. So no matter what on Fox NFL Sunday, I want to make it must-watch TV, you know?
17:34Jay Glazer:I just knew of it. I ain't had it before.
17:36James Harrison:You went and did that research. But I know you're real big on the mental health aspect. How do you think about, how do you feel like the professional athletes present the issues? Do you think they need to be a little bit more open?
17:47Joe Haden:Oh, by far. So it's funny because I go, you know, and you look, I've trained you in MMA, right? Yes. Unbreakable.
17:53James Harrison:Unbreakable.
17:54Joe Haden:But our whole thing, right, is, man, if you are hurt and tired, you will never, ever, ever know. We will sit there and we'll ramp pressure, ramp pressure and ramp pressure and ramp pressure. And you may get it. You made it. We're not going to show it. Not going to show it. Not going to show it. And you need that unbreakable mindset on a cage and a football field. but now we need a whole other unbreakable mindset off that field off that cage where you do show you do chime in you do tell people and i think it's a scarier world than ever before social
18:24James Harrison:media makes us all things our lives suck we're comparing ourselves to everybody else's filtered
18:28Joe Haden:freaking highlight one second of one day and we feel so left out and or listen i grew up in a jersey shore when i got my ass kicked in jersey shore growing up it sucked for a month now you're and your ass kicked 100 times a minute on X. Yes. You know?
18:43James Harrison:Yes, yes, yes.
18:44Joe Haden:So I think the more you do open up, these, I always say these friendships have become brotherhoods. Like this, see his bracelet right here? This is my most prized possession. This is given to me by Michael Phelps. Michael's my dude. But now when I have a meltdown, I FaceTime him. It can be horrible. When he has a meltdown, he FaceTimes me. But this was a promise that he will never quit life. that's a fucking brotherhood can I curse on this show? that's a fucking brotherhood that's not friend, that's a brotherhood I will not kill myself, I promise you I'm in, right? and we get like this, and now we've created this text chain where all the guys who help me so The Rock is one of them he's one, Sean McVay is one The Smashing Machine who's my training partner, who The Rock just did a movie on, Mark Kerr He's won.
19:38Joe Haden:Andrew Whitworth's won. Dan Quinn's won. And when any of us are struggling, we reach out to the group and we're there. When Sean lost the other day, man, we deployed for him. You know, Michael had a really bad meltdown last week. We deployed for him. We were all there for him. So that's taken our friendships to a much different level. And I think that's, listen, I think if you could be vulnerable and open up.
20:02James Harrison:Yes. Vulnerability.
20:03Joe Haden:that those people will be there for you when you're 25, 35, 55, 75. That's it right there. And that's how we're going to survive in this world.
20:12Jay Glazer:A thousand percent. So I'm all in and good with the mental health thing, you know, the real issues of mental health. But how much of that mental health now is you think is being overused? Because I think some of it is being overused. Like, you know, I feel unsafe driving to work because it's raining. I'm feeling nervous and all that. and they're using that to get off from having to go into work and everything else.
20:35Joe Haden:I hear you on that. So I have clinical depression, anxiety, ADHD, bipolar, OCD, anxiety, insomnia. Other than that, I'm a model of stability.
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23:35Joe Haden:I don't know. It is hard for me to get out of bed every day of my life. That sickness is what makes me great, but I'll never miss a day at work. I'll never let that thing win. Ever, ever, ever. I will fight it. Some days it's harder than others. So I get what you're saying, right? I've made a decision where I'm not going to let it beat me. And I'm always going to fight back. So I hope more people can get like that. But again, not everybody's me.
24:02Jay Glazer:Yeah, for sure. Look here. You got the inside scoop. So why didn't they really let Bill in there? I'm not
24:12Joe Haden:on the... Come on now.
24:14Jay Glazer:You got somebody.
24:14Joe Haden:I'm not on the committee.
24:15Jay Glazer:You got relationships. Somebody got a relationship with a relationship.
24:18Joe Haden:You think those cats will let me in our committee? Are you serious? They ain't going to let you in. Those other writers there are going to never let me in. Do you think they should let these writers be the only people that vote on them? No, absolutely not. And I've always said that. Why? No. Absolutely. It should be. But it's not now. Now it's the Tony Dunges and Bill Polins. But I don't know. It should be. It should be.
24:36Jay Glazer:I think it should be a committee of guys that are already in there. Especially like the first ballot guys. I like that idea. Yeah. Like, first ballot guys should vote for first ballot guys. I love that idea. It shouldn't be these writers who got a score to settle because so-and-so wasn't media-friendly with me. I love that idea. I haven't heard that yet, and I freaking love it.
24:55Joe Haden:Yep. I support that idea. Did you think it was about the gates? You think it's just gatekeeping? No. No, please. I think they're using the excuse. But if he's not in first ballot, then no coach ever should be in first ballot. That's what I'm saying.
25:09Jay Glazer:He's not in. Kraft not in. I don't know. They might pull the pistol on time. and tell him, hold up. That'll be crazy. No, that's not going to happen. I'm just saying. That ain't going to happen. That ain't going to happen. I'm trying to tell you. No, no, no. When I went there, I wanted to hate the dude. Yeah. But I couldn't. You couldn't, right? He's the best. I couldn't.
25:24Joe Haden:Dude, I love him. I work with him. I love him. And he works his ass off. Yes. Being a broadcaster, he works his ass off.
25:33James Harrison:Yeah. Well, look, I'm going to ask you about Coach T right before you get off. How do you think about what you— So Coach T stepped off from coaching. Do you think he's going to come back to coaching? Or do you think he's going to do TV?
25:43Joe Haden:Right now, I don't think he's going to come back. But that's, I talked to him yesterday, two days ago. Right now, he's hanging out with Harley. He's having a good time. He's being dad. Perfect. Trying to get himself in shape. He went through a lot in those 19 years, man. He's trying to get himself going again.
25:55James Harrison:Perfect. Jay, I want to say thank you.
25:57Joe Haden:Real quick, I am here to promote something. I was going to ask you that. Kelbury, which is an ADHD drug, which for all my stuff, I've been on over 35 meds. None of them helped. A lot of them made me worse. But I got diagnosed with ADHD in 89. Told me I had a learning disability back then. I didn't have a learning disability. I just didn't learn the way they talk. Right? And when I try to, like, tell people, like, ADHD, if I'm sitting in something I'm not interested in, it's like drowning. I want all parents here to hear this. Like, your kid is drowning. And the only way to get out of that, get a breath of fresh air, is to disrupt the class or to have an outburst or to talk to somebody.
26:34Joe Haden:You know? And we're always getting in trouble. So when I first got diagnosed, they put me on stimulants, which were not good for me. Because when you have depression, you go up, but then the down is bad. And then for people like us who are violent, it's really bad. And we get vicious. Not us. Right? Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah. Yeah, you guys are a model of freaking stability over there, yeah. Look at these guys. Look at James. Right, yeah. James is Santa Claus all the time, right? He's the Easter Bunny. and uh no but it's bad so i finally found something called calvary which i actually take a night which is the opposite of any other adhd drug and it you know it basically has like when i got 19 roommates in my head talking tonight all mad at each other man it kind of cuts it down to two so i can relax go to bed the next morning if i'm not on it if i'm on fox nabell sunday i can be in segment two i'm thinking about segment three like i'm never present.
27:31Joe Haden:This gets me present and it's been a huge help for me.
27:36Jay Glazer:Do you talk to a doctor about this? Yeah, go to your doctor about it.
27:41Joe Haden:Kelbury. Without a U. Q-E-L-B-R-E-E. It's really been a game changer for me.
27:48Jay Glazer:We want to thank you for joining us. Jay Glazer, baby. Always. I appreciate it. Love you, brother. Thank you so much. Appreciate it.
27:59James Harrison:Jay Glazer in the building, guys. Come on.
28:01Jay Glazer:Jay Glazer in the building, man. Legend. Unbreakable performance. Founder of MVP, Emerging Veterans and Players. Check it out. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Don't suck.
28:12James Harrison:Mm-hmm. What's up, baby?
28:14Jay Glazer:Look here.
28:15James Harrison:Don't look.
28:15Jay Glazer:Slide on through.
28:16James Harrison:Come on. What's up, brother? How you, man? What up? Good, good. Joe, Joe, brother. What's up? How you doing?
28:23Jay Glazer:Yeah. You know it? Yes, sir. Yes. Yes. Yes. 2004 second round draft choice. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Indianapolis coach, right? Was. Was. Was. Two-time national champion. Georgia and Texas, right? Yes, sir. Okay, okay. And currently, Jets receiver. Yes, sir. How you doing today, boss? Good, man. How about yourself? I'm doing good, man. I can't complain. Yes, sir. Hey, look here. I ain't never been of value enough to get traded, but... how did that how did that feel brother uh it was a it was it was definitely surprising a little bit you know uh for the most part well the writing was kind of on the wall a little bit but um you know it still kind of came out of nowhere it's just it just feel good to to be wanted you know oh yeah more so than more so than not being wanted anymore i mean second round draft choice, that's kind of wanted.
29:23Jay Glazer:You know what I'm saying? I was picked up two days later. You know what I'm saying? The draft is over with.
29:31James Harrison:So you're with New York now, right? Yeah. Got Aaron Glenn. Have you met? You know AG, Aaron Glenn? He was my coach back in Cleveland, my DB's coach. Right. How do you feel his coaching style is? Sure.
29:43Jay Glazer:He a true player's coach. He can relate to the player. Of course, he was a player at one time. but he just a true motivator he ain't gonna sugar coat nothing with you, if he needs something out of you he gonna tell you as a player I feel like
30:02James Harrison:you don't really need much more than that that's what you need, for sure and you got your man too, G-Duck, Gary Wilson I love that dude, man, how do you feel like you'll be able to pick his brain and learn a little bit off of him? So he a baller
30:15Jay Glazer:he a straight baller and And it'll just be fun. You know, we ain't really get to spend too much time together when I got traded in. But, you know, getting the whole offseason in and kind of going into the season, that'll be fun. For sure. For sure. Yeah, definitely. How much more do you think they'll be able to integrate you into that with you getting the whole offseason there? Is there anything that they talk to you about? Opportunities? I mean. Or focus or where they see it? I don't really know. I'm just kind of prepared to just go in and earn whatever I go in and earn. And, you know, I'm always better on myself, of course.
30:54Jay Glazer:Got to. You can't bet on nobody else. If you don't bet on you, who will? Ain't no telling. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
31:02James Harrison:You got to, baby. So, I said you had – I watched the game when you had the little fumble against the closer to the end zone. Yeah. But I'm not going to lie to you. You took accountability of it. Sometimes that thing is the hardest thing to do. playing the league or you a man, I just want to let you know, respect you, and you came out and keep bowling. Like, that's what it said, man. Not letting nobody ever put you down and just knowing that you got it. You know what I'm saying? Keep that ground going. Keep it popping, for sure. For sure, for sure.
31:28Jay Glazer:Was that difficult to bounce back from? Did you have to talk to yourself? Did you have to get it to your own head? Did you have to talk to somebody else? Like, how, what was the process of bouncing back from that? How was that? Man. What got you there? uh it was it was more so just kind of the way I viewed it it was like okay like I I know I'm gonna have some type of pushback from this of course like you can't just you can't just live life normally like and like nothing happened so I kind of looked at it as like you know it's more so somebody else blessing in my curse because I know you know kind of once I once I go back out there like I still play the same game of football um you know it was it was more so just about keeping my confidence up while I'm in practice, while I'm in scout team, whatever it is, just trying to keep that hope alive.
32:21Jay Glazer:No, for sure.
32:23James Harrison:Knowing you a dog. Keep hope alive. It's just a fun, it's just a fluke play. Yeah, for sure.
32:30Jay Glazer:The possibility of that really happening to players is low.
32:35James Harrison:You did everything you had to do the whole play. You know what I'm saying? Not like nobody else did that, You hooked out. I just love the way you're going to finish that and be good to go.
32:43Jay Glazer:So what brings you here? What you got going on, boss? Man, I'm here right now with Dexcom, you know, to show off the Dexcom G7. You know, it's a continuous glucose monitor that you slip on the back of your arm. And, you know, I was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes when I was 16 years old. So, you know, this kind of came in my life and kind of changed the game for me. And, you know, it had me switching from, you know, diabetes and football to, you know, really just focusing on my profession and, you know, letting this do the work. So that's a 24-hour monitor that you just opened? 24-hour monitor.
33:21Jay Glazer:Right now we're working with the 15-day. You know, the last product was only for 10 days. So now, you know, you only have to change this out, I believe, once a month or twice a month maybe. Yeah, once a month. Wow. Yeah.
33:38James Harrison:Hell yeah, man. I didn't know that you had diabetes, bro. That's good stuff. So, you know, man, you know the grind. You fight, man. My man out here fighting for his wife. For sure, bro. Keep it going, man. Straight up.
33:48Jay Glazer:You do the shot and all that. Oh, yeah. Yeah, whole thing. So, what is that? Like an app that connects to your phone or something? Yeah. You hook it up to the phone. It's a Bluetooth device. And, you know, you hook it up to the Apple Watch as well. Okay. And it's every five minutes, it'll send you an alert of where your blood sugar is at. So, you know, usually as a diabetic, you prick your finger. Yeah, prick your finger, then take a shot. You know, this also works hand-in-hand with the pump, to which, you know, they work hand-in-hand, and now you don't even need to take a shot or prick your finger.
34:24Jay Glazer:Once it hits a certain point, the pump will automatically get you with what you need. Yeah. Okay.
34:29James Harrison:Bro, that's what I'm talking about. You need to get more people because diabetes is a real thing. You know what I'm saying? That's shooting itself all the time. So people that don't have it don't really recognize it, don't really know what people are dealing with. So appreciate this, letting people know the knowledge. And it's Dexcom. Dexcom. Dexcom G7, man. Dexcom G7, man.
34:47Jay Glazer:Dexcom G7, 15th day. My guy is the one that y 'all want to holla at, talk to. Man, my dude, AD Mitchell. So how many times before this had you been in a situation where, like, you're in the game or something, and you're like, I'm dying. You got to prick your finger then and try and figure out what's going on? Uh, I, I kind of, so, so everywhere I've been, you know, I always got to, got to hook up with the nutritionist. And so like, you know, we'll work hand in hand and you know, it's, it's, it's, it honestly depend on the day, uh, depend on the game, depend on, you know, how I'm feeling that day.
35:22Jay Glazer:But you know, for the most part, it's, it's really checking myself kind of every time I step off the field, you know, for every drive, just to, just to make sure. Um, and if it's not every So before that, you had to actually just pop your finger every time you came off. And you trying to catch rock like that? Yeah. That's what I'm saying. I got a different perspective. Sure, bro.
35:46James Harrison:He out there really fighting.
35:48Jay Glazer:Yeah, I'd rather get stuck with a real needle than have to prick my finger. That's the most annoying thing I ever do. They got to do it. They got to do it. You go to the doctor and they prick your finger with that thing. Mm-hmm.
35:59James Harrison:Mm-hmm. Yeah, bro. So when's your off-season program starting this year? Oh, shoot.
36:05Jay Glazer:I mean, it kind of started already a little bit. But I say it'll probably pick up once I leave here.
36:14James Harrison:Yeah, I get myself a little bit, like, until the Super Bowl's done, that's when you know that season's over so you can start getting back to it. So. For sure.
36:21Jay Glazer:So, for sure.
36:22James Harrison:D-Bo, he don't never start working out. He probably work out this morning.
36:26Jay Glazer:The easiest way to get ready.
36:27James Harrison:Stay ready so you don't got to get ready. Never get out of shape. Never get out of shape.
36:31Jay Glazer:If you got something hurt or something like that, give it time to get healed up. But if you ain't got hurt, two weeks. That's all you need.
36:39James Harrison:And it's not like straight back to routes hard and everything. No, just keep your body right, conditioning, all that stuff for sure. Hell yeah. Get that ground going, brother. Come on, man.
36:47Jay Glazer:Yeah, for sure, man. Look here, man. AD, we want to thank you for joining us, brother. Thank you, brother. Appreciate the conversation. Not bad, man. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
36:54James Harrison:I know. Appreciate you, brother. No doubt. Yes, sir. Good old AD Mitchell, man. Two-time national champion. Two-time. Two-time national champion. Two-time. To be more careful.
37:04Jay Glazer:I ain't never had a national championship.
37:07James Harrison:My bad.
37:08Jay Glazer:I ain't never had a national championship.
37:10James Harrison:You know what I'm saying. Oh, yeah. I ain't even never. You know what I'm saying. I ain't never even went to one. I don't even know what that feels like. That's what the SEC worker do. That's what the SEC worker do.
37:18Jay Glazer:I only had one winning season in my career. I was 6-5, and we thought we was doing it. That was our first winning season since, like, 1987.
37:26James Harrison:Yeah, 6-5. Yeah, that is winning. Woo! That is over 500. That's over 500, baby. Got to be more careful.
37:33Jay Glazer:Over 500, Joe. Mm-mm-mm. Look here, baby. What's up, baby? I guess we got questions. We got some trades. We got some trades. Where we at? We got something over there?
37:43James Harrison:Let's see.
37:47We got...
37:49James Harrison:What we got? Yes.
37:51Jay Glazer:It's going to be behind us, they said. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. They know I got good vision, but that's kind of close, ain't it?
38:03James Harrison:No, I think it might pop up right there so we can be able to see.
38:06Jay Glazer:Yeah, I'm going to do it like this so I can see it in my camera front. I still can't see it, though.
38:13James Harrison:It's all good. What we got today, though, D-Bo? Who you got? We got... We got...
38:21Jay Glazer:We got... Kurt coming in a little bit. No, no, no. We got Nightcap tonight. We got nightcap tonight. We got nightcap. Yeah, hey, look here, man. We got nightcap tonight.
38:27James Harrison:What is that, 8 o 'clock? 8 o 'clock? 8 o 'clock. Then we're on nightcap tonight. 8 live. 8.15. We up. Oh, okay, okay. What do you got?
38:37Jay Glazer:What is your favorite Super Bowl memory as a player? What is your favorite?
38:42James Harrison:Joe, what is your favorite? That's no, that's obviously addressed to you. That's obviously addressed to you. This man is so.
38:48Jay Glazer:It's a question that we have to ask.
38:49James Harrison:No, they're not asking me because you just want me to say.
38:53Jay Glazer:for both of us, right?
38:54James Harrison:Yep, no. Yes. No, it's not. Do your job. Who is this? Nate Harper? Don't ask questions that I can't answer.
39:04Jay Glazer:You can be watching it. You could have watched one that you had a favorite memory of. As a player?
39:09James Harrison:No. When I was playing and I wasn't in it, I don't care. What you want me to be, rude or no? I don't care. You got a rude. I don't have a favorite memory of me not playing in the Super Bowl. I don't.
39:21Jay Glazer:You have a favorite memory as a player? What's your favorite memory? I don't care. No.
39:24James Harrison:Watching the Super Bowl, Joe. Oh, favorite memory of me watching the Super Bowl. Okay. I might say, you know what, Debo? I'm going to say. It don't say in the Super Bowl.
39:33Jay Glazer:Super Bowl memory as a player. Right. Not player in the Super Bowl as a player. All right. Well, look. You retired. You're no longer a player. When you were a player, what's your favorite memory?
39:44James Harrison:My favorite memory. We got. We got. Hey, dog. That's what I'm talking about. My favorite memory was your pick, Debo. Hey, we both got the same favorite memory. We got Kurt coming with my good old dog. What's up, boss? What's up? How you doing, Kurt?
40:02Jay Glazer:I was excited. Good to see you, baby. Good to see you. But it ain't had nothing to do with you. It's with a dog. Hey, boy. Ooh. Hey. What's up, boy? He's awesome. Yeah. He don't like you. He don't like me. He said he's in my sunglasses. He's in my sunglasses. He felt you wasn't a dog person, man. Yeah, they do feel that. Yeah. What's up? I felt that.
40:24Adonai Mitchell:Whoops. I think my mic came up. Give him a chair, give him a chair.
40:28Jay Glazer:Yeah, we should. Get up there, Petey. Jump up there.
40:32Adonai Mitchell:Don't come up here, come here, man.
40:33Jay Glazer:That boy big, there you go. Good boy.
40:39Kirk Herbstreit:If we can get the chair to the corner, then we can sit. This made my week.
40:46Adonai Mitchell:I love it. How we doing, guys? Doing great, man, how are you? Awesome, man. Good to see you guys. Congrats on doing this.
40:53Jay Glazer:Thank you. You guys enjoying it? Oh, yeah.
40:54Adonai Mitchell:Good. Having a blast.
40:56Jay Glazer:Having a blast. Let's tell y 'all who we got here. You know exactly what I'm saying. We got Pete the dog.
41:02Adonai Mitchell:That's the most important thing. And his owner. I'm a handler. I'm here as a handler. That's so true. That's my life now.
41:10Jay Glazer:Look here, man. Indiana. Wow. How about that? Okay. This is what I want to know. I don't believe it. I am a Kent State alumni. Yeah, I know. Do you see any possibility of this situation being able to happen for Kent State or programs like mine, you know, that's at the...
41:33Adonai Mitchell:I almost think it's getting become more of a haves and a have-nots. And I think the Kent States of the world, if you were there and you had a great freshman or sophomore year, Florida's coming down and they're going to give you game-changing money and it's hard life-changing and it's hard for me to visualize a group of four team right now being able to keep their roster together to make a possible run I would love it but I just think that the Florida's of the world the Ohio State's the Texas's it's so different than when you guys were coming through the recruiting and just the the way they high school kids aren't being recruited like they used to be They're going to Kent State, and they're going to get a guy who's an all-conference guy and get him for two years.
42:18Adonai Mitchell:So it's such a different game. Some people are still developing. It's kind of like NFL. You build through the draft, and you kind of sprinkle in some free agents. I think the best teams are doing it that way, not just going all in on trying to bring in portal guys. But the game is so different right now.
42:35Jay Glazer:Do you see any point in time where they're going to have to put some type of stipulation, rules to how they're doing this with the with yeah i think that's what we're waiting for james
42:46Adonai Mitchell:is rules like like right now if you get frustrated and your team's two and six you just leave like if you're mad right you're not playing you just leave it's like you imagine the nfl like it just bounce i mean you played on teams that are championship teams you played on teams that were struggling by week eight you kind of know you're probably imagine just being like i'm out Yeah. And I don't what's that teaching the kids? You know, like I have four sons, like I can't imagine every time they ran into an obstacle. It's like we'll just quit, you know, go over here and try something like you want them to part of great part of football is trying to overcome that and learning how to overcome adversity.
43:24Adonai Mitchell:And we're teaching these guys right now. Just just go around it, go to another place. And I just feel bad for them long term because they don't have any roots with where they are. Like, I'm sure you still have connections in Gainesville. Sure. And you were there three years. Yep. And I don't know. I feel like when I went to college. Damn, he ain't even talked to me about Kent State.
43:44James Harrison:It's all good. We're having our thing over here.
43:46Jay Glazer:Did you have tights? I still got some ties. Do you? Okay, good, man. Good. But I just think it's. I'm trying to get enough money so I can go in there and buy me a program. Nice. I like that. I'm going to go ahead and get me a. I'm trying to get a budget like old state.
43:59Adonai Mitchell:Oh, yeah. That's tough. Man. That's tough.
44:02Jay Glazer:They got some great back. They do.
44:03Adonai Mitchell:But I just, I feel bad. Like, where are we going to be in 10 years with these kids that maybe went to the NFL, played for three years, didn't get that second contract, don't have that generational income? Yeah. What happens to that guy? Like, what did he learn in his college experience?
44:19James Harrison:Because he's probably still jumping around.
44:20Adonai Mitchell:Just jumping around. No competition.
44:22James Harrison:Right. You're not building, like, you have to be able to grow. So I'm with you a thousand percent. Yeah.
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47:24James Harrison:Lenovo. Lenovo. How do you feel about Fernando Mendoza, though? Do you think he's going to be able to change a franchise, like a number one pick legitimately coming in?
47:36Adonai Mitchell:Again, it's your guy's world, but I don't know if he's the guy that you're going to say, it doesn't matter who's at receiver, it doesn't matter who's at running back, We got this guy. He's our, we're going to.
47:46James Harrison:Okay.
47:47Adonai Mitchell:He's a guy that you're going to put on that is going to process at an elite level. He's going to see you disguising, uptight, showing man, and then dropping off playing. He's going to see that. Okay. So he's that guy. Okay. But he doesn't have a skill set that's just a game changer. But I'm a fan of these kind of guys. But you got to have, you got to have pieces around him. A thousand percent. If you got pieces around him, he's your guy. If you want him to just, like, save the franchise, I don't think he's the guy.
48:15James Harrison:Yeah, I don't think he's that, for sure.
48:15Adonai Mitchell:I just don't. Like Herbert with the Chargers, they went to him and it was like, we'll eventually get good enough. But in the meantime, he's such an elite skill set. We're going to be okay. He's not that. I got you. He's going to manage it and get you out of trouble, not let him blitz. He's hanging out and all of a sudden he comes late. Eventually, I think he's going to see things like that. So he's very incredibly smart. And he does have some skill. I mean, he does have some ability, as you saw in his championship run.
48:45James Harrison:I could see how Sam Darnold with the Jets, how that's the same person that's playing with the Seahawks right now. But you put a good defense around you. You put a good team around you. You don't have to do everything. But just don't mess it up. Put it in the right spot.
48:58Adonai Mitchell:And I think Brock Purdy out here kind of does that, right? Mr. Irrelevant. No one thought he could do anything. And, again, I think you've got Christian behind him, all the pieces at receiver. understands what Kyle is trying to do to attack a defense. He's an extension of Kyle, and he's like a computer. That's what Mendoza is. He's going to be a computer, that kind of guy.
49:19James Harrison:And like you said, too, the coaches putting you in position that him and Kyle, Kyle got people running open. You know what I'm saying? You don't got to throw it in too many tight windows. Exactly right.
49:29Jay Glazer:College, pro, transition from one to the other. How much of that transfers from college to pro, and what do you think the biggest things that do or don't?
49:39Adonai Mitchell:Well, I think a quarterback, and again, you guys are the perfect age to see, like early in your guys' careers, there were quarterbacks that probably were savants when it came to what we're talking about. And I feel like as high school football, like quarterbacks came up in middle school and high school, never huddled, never under center, looking over the sideline, looking at an Elmer Fudd sign or whatever, you know what I mean? They weren't quarterbacks. And I think now the game has changed so much. Most of these guys are coming out of these systems where very rarely are they running an NFL kind of offense.
50:15Adonai Mitchell:So you just wonder, you're really kind of rolling the dice wondering, does he have what it takes? Like, does J.J. McCarthy leave in Michigan? Does he have what it takes? You really never know until you do all your due diligence, roll the dice, and then you hope that they have the ability. you like Caleb Williams it's been so fun that guy never huddled in his life and he was a superstar best athlete on the field that's all he knew so his instincts as a quarterback but he's worked having to work through with Ben Johnson his primary's not there he's going to go try to make James miss and a lot of times it worked out for him now he's becoming a guy hits first nope second third and then if it's not there he can do his thing I'm excited to see where that relationship, by the way, is going to go with Caleb and Ben Johnson.
51:04Adonai Mitchell:But I don't know, man. I'd like to think, because of his preparation, he's the guy you play with these quarterbacks. They got their tablet always with them, always at home watching film. He's that guy. So I'd like to think it'll transition, but who knows?
51:20Jay Glazer:You know what? Something that surprised me that I think both me and Joe actually found out a little bit of this year is a lot of these young guys uh receivers some quarterbacks they can't read coverage no i've never heard of not being able to read coverage or being taught that in the process
51:37Adonai Mitchell:like where where does that where's that being dropped off at like i think the emphasis again you lived it the five-star four-star world it's seven on seven you know it's it's almost like aau basketball so instead of getting in the mud and like learning the fundamentals of the game I think there's so much flash and so much hype on social media about this corner. He's out here and he's doing this, and he's not doing necessarily what he's going to do in a game. He's just doing clown stuff. But it's encouraged in the grassroots high school stuff. So they come to college, and these college guys, they're just trying to keep him on the roster.
52:16Adonai Mitchell:You get a five-star corner, you're just trying to keep him happy and want to stay. No one's getting tough and doing like Nick Saban, like coaching. Like this is how you play. Worried about losing him. They're worried about him leaving.
52:29Jay Glazer:Yeah, they come in as celebrities already. They need nothing to earn. That's exactly right. And they're up there catering to him, and they ain't putting out one snap on the field. Bingo. That's the fear you have.
52:39Adonai Mitchell:And then you're thinking in the NFL, okay, say you have Joe, who hasn't been taught the fundamentals, but, man, he can run, change the direction. He has all the – I can get him to learn. That's what I think they're rolling the dice on. And sometimes it works. And other times guys just never get it. You know, they never get it. How much of the game for you guys as defensive players was not just how big and strong you were, how fast and instinctive you were, but just doing your job, understanding the why and how what you did affected what he did. Like, to me, that's like next level. That's next level.
53:14Adonai Mitchell:That's the whole thing. But they're not doing that again.
53:17Jay Glazer:No, no. Not at all. I don't even think, I don't think a majority of younger coaches are teaching that, to be honest with you. Like, I think guys are getting in there and they're looking at what it is they want to do instead of getting the guys a whole understanding. Like, when I got in, I didn't know what the hell I was doing. So I couldn't even do what I needed to do. How did you learn? Once I understood, I sat down with my coach. My coach, Coach Butler, sat down with me. And, like, day in, day out, I'm after, I'm here trying to figure out everything. but once I learned what it was that I could do, I couldn't learn what I could do better, but I can learn what the guy next to me was doing with the guy on that side of me.
53:56Adonai Mitchell:But did he teach you that, or did you have that in your own mind that you needed that?
54:00Jay Glazer:Like, to make me better, to make the defense better, if I learn what the guy is doing in front of me, behind me, on the side of me, if I have no work there, instead of me just sitting here on nothing, I can squeeze in and wait for that deep dig coming at 17 that's going to be coming across the state. sitting down here in the curled flat five yards and now i'm making my safety but it has a secret sauce it makes players but you get something that like like dick lebow like he he taught us that coach bugger he's like they taught us that like hey if you don't have anything here help your buddy
54:33James Harrison:yeah you know what i'm saying i was saying burning it i would say this too the same thing because when you first get in you're worried about it takes you long enough to learn just your job so when you cut in there my first rookie year after the second year you start learning what everybody's around you doing. When you call a play as a corner, I first come out, all right, we got cover two. I'm thinking about what's my job. That's it. Now, second year, they call cover two. I already know that. I'm just worried about when they motion, what's our check? What are the splits? What routes are they running?
54:59James Harrison:So now I already know our defense. You start getting more and more and more comfortable.
55:02Adonai Mitchell:So I would say to me that what you guys are describing to me is what gets lost by the average fan, which to me is how much football savvy, intelligence, communication, especially great defense like Seattle, both these teams, the communication. But these things aren't talked about. We're going back to your original point about college and high school players and coming up. I think we just see raw ability. We see potential. And we think, is that going to transition? And what you're describing is you better go to the right franchise with the right coach. Otherwise, you're just going to have a really talented player that's just not not understanding the nuances of playing as one of
55:45Jay Glazer:11 on a defense well that's another thing when you have a coach what we like to call buy-in when i have a coach if my coach is joe hayden and i know how joe hayden played the game i saw how he played the game i'm going to buy into him immediately and now i'm going to listen to everything he has to say because i know i've seen greatness in him and now he's coaching and telling me what to do. So it's an automatic buy-in to that, and now players are wide open to feed and take in the information. Are you going to coach?
56:13James Harrison:Yes, I think it's about to start getting into it. Good for you, man. I just wanted to take a little bit of time on first.
56:19Adonai Mitchell:Uh-oh, he's giving a face. Are you going to leave my man here? No, not yet. You lying. We going together. We going together.
56:25Jay Glazer:Oh, yeah, when I get that 30-day. Come on, man. We're going together. You're going to coach? Yes, yes. Look here, man, before we get you out of here, man, what brings you here? What's got going on?
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57:08Adonai Mitchell:I mean, he's just chilling. My dogs are like, I have four sons, but they're really like my kids, and I care about them. And so Spruce, the fact they have 10 ingredients in their product, they're fantastic. So, yeah, if you're interested in that and you do yard work or you have people doing your yard work and you like a pet-friendly product, Spruce is definitely a home run.
57:28Jay Glazer:Can they buy this in stores? or is it online? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
57:31Adonai Mitchell:Online, you can buy it in stores like Home Depot. Nationwide. Nationwide. Okay. Yeah, a good product.
57:37James Harrison:Take those dogs with spruce. Yeah. Come on, man. Come on, man. Thank you, man. We appreciate you coming on. Yeah, man. Great seeing you, man.
57:43Adonai Mitchell:You too. Congrats on all of you guys and all your success. I appreciate you, man. And good luck with everything.
57:47James Harrison:For sure. Thank you, boss. All right, now. Yeah, I'll get him up. Good old Kurt Herbstreet. Come on. Let's go. And Peter. Pete. Come here, Pete. Come here.
57:55Jay Glazer:Good boy. Good boy. Come here. Come here. He don't like you. He do like me. I like you, Joe.
58:02James Harrison:All right, Pete.
58:03Jay Glazer:Thanks, guys.
58:03James Harrison:Thank you, Kirk. All right, now. Have a good one, boss. Good old Kirk. Yes, sir. Spruce, right? Spruce, spruce, spruce.
58:19James Harrison:Ain't that a...
58:20Jay Glazer:My man, Kirk. That's a legend right there, D-Bow. That's a big dog, man. That's a lad. He got a meaty head for a laugh, but I'm trying to tell you, man. Definitely. Definitely. Hello. What's up, baby? I'm good. How are you? Good. Hey, how you doing? Good. Nice to meet you. Nice to see you. You cooking in here or what? We're cooking. Look at that. Look here, man. We got another question, man. Let's get up over here. We got... If you could be gifted a ticket to any event in the world, which would it be? Joe, if you could be gifted a ticket to any event in the world, which would it be?
58:58James Harrison:You know what I'm going to. I'm going game. I'm going any game seven basketball championship floor courtside. That's where I'm going. Courtside basketball games are the funnest thing that I could go to. Like, I love football and the suite and all that. But you too far. No. That basketball on the floor with Braun right there sitting right next to me. Like, you sitting right next to me right now. And I'm like this. Yeah, you don't like, I don't know y 'all, whatever. So sitting next to Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant, whoever one is y 'all favorite player of all time, sitting right next to him on the floor.
59:34James Harrison:If you sitting next to Jordan, you might want to call that one, huh? I might. All right, well, let's put it that.
59:38Jay Glazer:I might take the little tight seat. Game seven. Game seven.
59:42James Harrison:Utah Jazz with Jordan. Put me in the box. Put you in the box.
59:46Jay Glazer:Put me in the box. I'm going to have a TV in the box. I'm going to have a better view. I'm going to get all the replays. I'm going to get all the excitement of the live with none of the removal of space.
59:59James Harrison:Okay, so you want to be Super Bowl in the suite. Yeah, Super Bowl in the suite. Super Bowl in the suite. Super Bowl in the suite. I can respect it. Super Bowl in the suite. Game, I'm going game seven. Plenty to eat.
1:00:09Jay Glazer:Plenty to eat. Super Bowl in the suite. I ain't got to get up to go nowhere. All I do is turn around, you know, grab me some crab cakes, you know, grab me some steak, you know, Whatever it is that I need
1:00:22James Harrison:It's already in the box Ready to go When you on the floor though too They bring you whatever you want They bring you that I had crab cakes on the floor I had crab cakes on the floor Right next to Braun Right Right next to MJ Where your table at that you eating? Oh it gotta be on my lap though You gotta hold You gotta Stop playing with me man You're trying to really throw down You're trying to throw down
1:00:41Jay Glazer:Yeah I'm not sitting there snacking Do I look like I snack? Mm-hmm Do I look Do I look like I snack? No you don't look like you snack Hey Superbowl Pittsburgh Steelers. Any Pittsburgh Steelers Super Bowl. I got to be in the box, though.
1:00:57James Harrison:I'm going. I got to be in the box. I got to be on the floor. NBA Finals. Got to. I'm a basketball guy, D, though. Listen. I'm a big basketball guy. You see my jacket?
1:01:08Jay Glazer:The only way, the only way I'm not in the box, I'm on the sideline as the head coach, getting$30 million. You my DB coach. We down there. Yeah, I like that. I like that view.
1:01:24James Harrison:I like that view.
1:01:24Jay Glazer:Yes, sir. Yeah, Lord. Yes. Yes. Look here. What we got next? We got something else up here? No. There we go.
1:01:36Jay Glazer:Ooh, who wins the matchup? JSN or Christian Gonzalez?
1:01:42James Harrison:Boy. What do you call a win, though? That's what I'm saying. What is a win? Is it over? Is it under? Is it under a certain amount of yards? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Is he keeping them out of the end zone? What do you call a win? If he goes— See what he call a win. What do you call a win? It's five—I'm a DB. I'm saying a win for me is under— Against him. Against him. Against him. Keep him under 50 yards. Under 50 yards, no touchdowns. 50 yards, you're tripping. They're going to throw that boy the ball about 15 times. No, I'm just trying to tell you, as me as a DB, if I keep you under 50 and out the end zone, that's when I won.
1:02:18James Harrison:Keep him out of the end zone, period. You won, but you don't want 12 for 150 and no touchdown. You got hit. You know what I'm saying? But depending on, is it zones? I don't like a lot of those dig routes. If that's just in the zone, the linebackers coming up, biting up. He said man, man. Man to man. If he's going man to man and he on him, keeping him under 50 yards, no tuts, and that's a win. If he scores on you.
1:02:43Jay Glazer:Man throw it to him. It's man defense.
1:02:45James Harrison:He targeted him eight times. Perfect balls. Perfect balls. If you strap them up, if he's four catches for 42 yards, zero tuss. 442, that's strap. That's work. I like that. You know what I'm saying? Anything under that 50 and no tutties, and you got a couple, you got five catches for 50 yards and no tutties. So with that being your, listen, so we just got your standard.
1:03:09Jay Glazer:That being your standard. Yes.
1:03:11James Harrison:Who wins the matchup? Jackson Smith and Jigba.
1:03:17Jay Glazer:Yeah. Yeah.
1:03:17James Harrison:Because, I mean, he's going to get more than 50. If you're going to lock him up, he might get in the box too. He's going to get in the zone. He's going to get about 100.
1:03:25Jay Glazer:Man, they throw that man the ball too much. You think you go hold that man, you go strap that man. That's what I'm saying.
1:03:30James Harrison:If he throw it to him 12 and he catches half of it, he got six. If he gets 10 yards of catch, don't let him go up top on you. Like one of these catches could be for 45 yards. And then you're looking nuts. Then you're six for 120 on your head in the tutty. Bad day. 12 opportunities.
1:03:49Jay Glazer:As long as it ain't, I could take 120.
1:03:52James Harrison:You could take 120. If it's 10 or 12 catches. And what about the touchdown? No, as long as you say, keep him out the box and you won. Keep him out the end zone and you won. Yeah, but I'm with you.
1:04:02Jay Glazer:I'm going to have to go. I'm going to have to go. I got to go with Jensen.
1:04:05James Harrison:I got to go with Jensen. And that's no disrespect. It's just that how many opportunities is he going to get? They're going to keep him. They're going to tow him that rock. And Walker's going to be toting that joy, too.
1:04:15Jay Glazer:Same thing.
1:04:16James Harrison:What we got? Flip it.
1:04:24James Harrison:Who wins MVP? I'm going to go ahead and let you. Well, if it's going what I think, Seattle, if Seattle wins the championship, Sam Donald's going to win MVP.
1:04:37Jay Glazer:I wouldn't go. Well, they ain't going to win. Is this going to be Kenneth Walker? Kenneth Walker. Who's going to win? MVP. Of course, you know, I'm going to England because, you know. So you're going to go Drake May? I'm not going to go Drake May. Henderson? I'm going to go whoever get this game-changing, winning interception on your boy.
1:05:09James Harrison:On Sam Donner, whoever pick off. So it could be Gonzalez? If Gonzalez take one back to the crib, he's going to get it out of there.
1:05:18Jay Glazer:Nope. Trying to squeeze it in there tight. He got pressure coming up on him. He swing that thing out. Boy, come down on that thing. It's just a little out of pick six to the house.
1:05:26James Harrison:So you're like a defensive MVP.
1:05:28Jay Glazer:I love defensive MVP. Some people say I should have won it. What are you talking about? No, no, that's what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying? I know I ain't winning that, but, you know. They was hating? Yeah, hating. That's why me and, yeah, yeah, yeah. Inside story. Me and Madden got some issues. I ain't going to lie. Madden? Listen, I'll talk to you later about it. Yeah. Yeah. Straight hate. John Madden. That's crazy work. Listen, bro. Straight hate out the gate. I sat down at the box with him after the game. After the Super Bowl? After the game, right there, sat down. Everybody on that crew told me.
1:06:05Jay Glazer:But John Madden wasn't... Like I said, man, I'll talk to you later about it. Come on. Anyway, man, what's the next question? let's see who wins oh let me back yeah i gotta back up for this one well here's my question do you think the nfl has a quarterback development problem within this league because unless you're mahomes jackson allen burroughs or even that these guys would rather discard you like a used sock instead of building around the quarterback position. Do you think the NFL has a... All right.
1:06:51James Harrison:Yes. I think it's a development problem and it's the coaches. Some coaches aren't that good. Some offensive coaches aren't that good. And they try to put the blame on the quarterback like, oh, no, he's not doing nothing. He's not good enough. Prime example, when we say Sam Darnold, it's not like it's a different person that's playing. The Jets didn't have an offense set up. They didn't give him structure. Defense wasn't good. You just have a full-blown bad team. So Sam Darnold looks bad. You go to the Vikings, he looked a little better. You know what I'm saying? Team was better around him. Developed, you know what I'm saying?
1:07:26James Harrison:Better plays. Then you go now to Seattle. You're not asked to do as much. He's the same person. He's just hitting better passes, getting the ball, run game, amazing. Jackson Smith and Jigba. Their defense, unbelievable. Don't lose it for us, Sam. So I think coaches are, coaches take the shortcut sometimes. I mean, like, oh, no, you got to be able to. I understand, Joe.
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