Super Bowl LX Radio Row Day 2: Part 2 - Emmitt Smith joins! + Seahawks vs. Patriots Predictions!

21:57Joe Haden:They start running the ball, grinding your defense out. And now you jump back out here two minutes, and you do another three. Do another three now. The defense was out there 10 minutes, got two minutes break. Now they back out there for another team. Yeah. You'll get dog walked. So, yeah. And then you establishing the run. Two-minute offense, you're not really, like, just handing the ball off. That's clock. It's just not situationally proper. I'm looking at the clock, bro. I'm looking at my watch Oh it's on Yeah yeah yeah Bruh it's on what's name time You thought you was On the east coast still No I ain't got it hooked up to nothing So it didn't change It didn't change back to nothing brother Alright what we got here I guess we got more That was the two minute joint What's next It can't be the two minute We ain't got nothing else next Looks good.

22:51Joe Haden:How we do? How we do? Who will step up for Seattle? Who will step up for Seattle? Man, that's... New England takes away JSN. If New England takes away JSN. If New England takes away JSN. Who will step up? They got Coop, don't they? They got Coop. They got Cup. But he ain't going to step up. The only... They're going to have... If they lock down. Bro, JSC, everybody else going to be so scared. They'll be like, we can't get free either. If JSC can't get loose, what's we going to do, boy? They're going to be spooked if JSC not getting off. You ain't lying. You ain't lying. Who you think? Honestly, I like Cooper.

23:37Joe Haden:I like Cup. But if they don't run the ball, if Kenneth Walker doesn't get off for at least, that's what I'm saying. Kenneth Walker's going to run for$1.20 something. I'm telling you. because if he's not getting off and they don't have to drop those safeties up there, then JSN could be able to get off. But when they double-team him, Walker's going to be the baller. Walker's going to be the MVP of the game. I understand that, but I can still double-team him and keep enough people on the line to be able to stop Walker. So I'm just going to go ahead and be like, look, I know he go get what he go get, but I can't let this dude get loose.

24:14Joe Haden:So now if I let him get loose, now we got to bring even more. Like, I just can't let him get loose. He get loose. Now all the other receivers got an opportunity too. I'm telling you. I'm going to let you get. It's only opening up if Kenneth Walker Jr. gets to tote. If he doesn't tote and anyone stops him like you said, if you say it happens, that's why we stopping him. You're all going to win. We're going to stop him from running. We stop him from running. We know you're going to go to who you're going to go to. We going to tackle the catch, make sure that we got two bodies in the vicinity, even if it's not a double, and then strap everybody else.

24:53Joe Haden:If you strap JSN and Walker. I ain't saying we got to strap JSN. I'm saying we got to strap Walker. And JSN get, I said, more. He get more, but he don't get no tutty with it. I don't believe it. They're all not stopping Walker, and that's going to let J.S. take it off. Then Donald go try that, I'm going to force it in there because he go, it ain't going to be there. He's going to be trying to get it away from him because they're going to start pinning them ears back. We're going to be watching. I ain't running the ball no more. I can pin my ears back. Run first. Run first, Seattle. Run first. Yeah, but if it's no success.

25:27Joe Haden:It's going to be successful, though. That's what I'm trying to tell you. You keep on saying like they're going like the Patriots defense is going, no, they're not going to be able to run. I'm not saying they just go, like this is the Super Bowl, bro. Yeah, we're going to see. Like, everybody is – your boy Darnold is – right now he's thinking about everything that went on in his life. Right now he's balling. He's like, oh, man, I just went from this to that. Like, I can't let anybody – he's pressuring himself. I hope he is. I'm pressuring you. Look here, man. He said, outside of the Steelers and the Browns, what team would you like to play for?

26:00Joe Haden:Outside of the Steelers and the Browns, what team would you like? I ain't going to lie to you. If we're going, are we going, like, for winning or just play for it? And it's already given how it's winning. It's already, no, it's not given that it's winning. It's whatever, like, what team. Well, see, you just said, oh, you used to losing. Never mind. What team would you play for other than the Browns or the Steelers? I ain't never played for the Browns. That's the team I wouldn't. That's what I'm saying. I'm putting them in there because I know you won't pick them, but what Browns, Steelers, Patriots, and Cincinnati, who would you play for?

26:40Joe Haden:Who would you want to play for? Okay, so if we're giving that success is not guaranteed, then I want to play. No way success is guaranteed. But, you know, if the tools are there. Okay, yeah. I want to play where the most tools are. Where is that?

27:05Joe Haden:Right now, since I can't pick New England, it's going to have to be Seattle because they in the Super Bowl. Okay, okay, okay. You know where I'm playing. L.A. Brains. Yep. That sounds good. Love L.A. Love the weather. Love everything. I'll be able to go to the Lakers games. Nah, nah. You hate the traffic. All that. Stop it, Joe. No, I'm good with the traffic. I'm going to leave early. Nighttime. All that. Back roads. So listen, take it away and add that winning is a given. Where is your ideal place? Winning is a given. We're going to say it on three. We're going to say it on three. I know where my eye is, but if yours ain't there, you don't make no sense.

27:44Joe Haden:And winning is a given? Winning is a given. Where is your ideal place? Say it on three. Ready? One, two, three. Cleveland Browns. Miami. Miami, you can't pick them. You just said that. But you said. Uh-uh. I said winning is a given. Winning is a given? I'm going to Cleveland. We ain't won. They got to go win. You can't pick that. Nope. We just said you can't pick that. Run it back, run it back, run it back. It's too late now. Okay. Who would you have picked? Cleveland Browns. You can't pick that. You want to go there and lose again. No, I want to bring winning there. I said you can't pick that.

28:14Joe Haden:But you said it's automatic winning. Once you said automatic winning, I said, oh. I said winning is the given now. Yes. You can't pick whoever I couldn't pick, which is Cleveland. Okay. So I'll pick Miami, and you would pick whom? I would pick. It ain't nowhere else to go, Joe. What you mean? I would go. Miami. Miami. No, I'm still going to the Rams. You're going to the Rams? I'm going to the Rams. I'm living in L.A., and we're winning chips in L.A., and then I'm sitting courtside at the Lakers games because I'm whooping ass on the field at SoFi. So I'm getting to sit. Boom. Courtside games. Hey.

28:52Joe Haden:Whooping in the L.A. Listen, you stay in L.A., you pay all that money on them property taxes. But I'm winning. Look, if we're winning Super Bowls, I'm making right now, I'm highest-paid corner. I'm making$35 million a year. I'm chilling. I'm being Florida. I can live there. I can live there. I can live there. Trust me. I don't need. With no income. I don't need all of it. I'll still be fine out there. What are you talking about? You know how many people I can help with the money I done saved on taxes paying the government? Man, I hear you. You're talking about 50 % though. You just asked me where I want to be.

29:21Joe Haden:So now you understand. I'm just saying. I'm just trying to give you the whole spill of why. California is better because the weather is not. It's all humid. It's all humid. I know. Is it worth 50 % of your pay? Not 50. It's only 12. Like 12 and a half. It's not like 12 and a half. Ain't no taxes over there. That's what I'm saying. In Miami. You getting another 12 and a half. No property taxes. No nothing. What are you talking about, Joe? Okay. All right. That's okay. That's on you. I'm going to live in Cali and be chilling. When you got money and you ain't, you know what I'm saying, you stupid rich like Joe is.

29:50Joe Haden:You got diamonds in your teeth that's worth more than my house. Come on, man. Come on, D-Bow. That's what it is, man. Let's see. That's what it is. What's the best food spot in Pittsburgh? It's a place called Napa Prime. Mm-hmm. Yes. Napa Prime, fire. Napa Prime is fire. Napa Prime is fire. Napa Prime is fire. That's what I would go with. That's what I would go with. He probably going to say something goofy. Go. Go ahead. Go ahead. You trying to Pittsburgh out. I know what you're going to say. No, no, no. I'm definitely not going to say none of them little— You were going to say Pranayburs. I definitely wasn't going to say that.

30:27Joe Haden:I do not like the potatoes in my sandwich. But I'm going to go with Eddie V's. Over Napa Prime? The Eddie V's in Pittsburgh was probably one of the best Eddie V's that I had. I understand that, but I said over. You could pick the same thing if it is. If you're just trying to be different, say I just want to be different because— Or I would go to Off the Hook. Same thing. Come on. Off the hook. Napa Prime, they're running. Okay, yeah, that's what I'm saying. They're running mates. They related. They related. Same one. Yes, yes, yes. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Those are three spots. Napa Prime, off the hook.

30:59Joe Haden:Off the hook. Eddie V's. Wexford. Wexford, yes. Those two? They're close to the dealership. Eddie V's, that's downtown, right? Eddie V's downtown. Downtown. Yes. That's straight in the middle of Pittsburgh. Come on. What we got?

31:17Joe Haden:Man, oh, man. I'm so glad I seen my dog Emmitt Smith. That was lit. Gator great. What non-football player could win Super Bowl? What? What non-NFL player would win a Super Bowl MVP? If they're non-NFL player, how'd they go win an MVP? Because they just said, who you think would be the best player that's in the NBA that could come to the NFL? They said non-NFL player. They ain't say NBA. Or that means that that's a non-NFL player, though. It could be MLB. It could be NBA. It could be anybody who you think could play in the league. Hockey player. You know who I'm going with again. You already know.

32:05Joe Haden:Little Bron James. Straight up. Bron James. Defensive end. Tight end. Wide out. There ain't going to be no defensive end. Stop, bro. Man. Stop, bro. Stop, bro. Defense. Stop, bro. Stop playing. Now you gassing. Yeah. I'm a LeBron fan. I'm Jordan first, but I'm LeBron second. Akron, no question. No defense. LeBron not playing no defense? Hell no. LeBron ain't playing no defense, bro. Man, that's just because he chooses not to run people over right now, man. That's hitting, bro. For real. That's hitting. I'm not disrespecting LeBron. I ain't just straightening him either, but I'm looking at, okay.

32:37Joe Haden:265, 270. Bro, he got to take. 6 '8. Listen, bro. That's too tall? You coming out of there, you got to come in there and bang. Bang, bang, bang. Okay, wide receiver or tight end? Yes. Okay. I'll give you that one. I'll give you that one. Because, like, Jimmy Graham was out there during tight end, just straight jump balls. So I'm trying to think of who I would go. Who I would go with? See, I'm leaning more towards, like,

33:09Joe Haden:who? John Jones. Oh, man. I like that. What position? Put him down there on the end. Outside backer? Put him down there on the end, on the end of the line. Okay, I like that. You can call him wherever you want. I'm going to put him on the end of the line. John Bones Jones is a good one. Hey, his brother. Hey, Jones. Them Jones boys now. Don't forget it. Yeah. I got, yeah. Okay, I like that. I like that one a lot. John Jones. I like that one a lot. For sure. Bones Jones. For sure. And then if I didn't go LeBron, because I keep going LeBron, Anthony Edwards. Okay. Anthony Edwards. I'll go with that.

33:42Joe Haden:Love Anthony Edwards. At D-Boy and Joe's. Essential water. Neat. to sponsor. Hell yeah they do. Yes, yes, yes. Essential water. We need a sponsorship. We got it. Holler at your boy. This man drinks a thousand liters. Alright. Look here. Check out the post. How they disrespect. How Amazon disrespected the water. Okay. The love for the water that I have. Joe now has. I spread it on out. You know what I'm saying? Hydration is a key factor to James. Hey. Six to eight liters a day. That's what I do. I don't know who that is, though. I just say Deuce. Oh, yeah. It's just people walking around, people walking through.

34:27Joe Haden:It's getting live. Essential water. Holler at your boy. Bebo, how long did it take you to... Yes. Hey, man. That's never going to leave you, brother. You oxygen mask up. Hey, man, I'm trying to tell you, how long did it take you to recover after the interception in the Super Bowl? So, it didn't take as long as y 'all think it took to recover. It did. It did, Debo. You keep lying because you over there on the oxygen mask. That's a long time. I'm trying to tell y 'all to understand something. Listen, we was in a deep, what was that, 10, 12-play drive right at the end of the half. Mm-hmm. Okay. Yes.

35:08Joe Haden:So, you already are exhausted before you ran. I catch the rock right there. Goal line. We're going back 100. Now, don't forget. I zigzagged. You zigzagged. You jumped. I zigzagged. You hurdled. I hurdled. Mm-mm. I gave, I gave like, I gave everything I had. Yes. And that's all I had left. That was like a 130-yard run. Okay? Now, I'm just trying to tell you, I did hit my head. I'm trying to tell you, I'll just run the play back. I hit my head. My neck cracked. I was go get up. But as I went to go get up, my neck cracked again. And that's when I realized I was dead dog tired. Double neck crack. And did you fall on the ball too?

35:53Joe Haden:Did the ball knock the wind out of your stomach or you didn't fall off? Nah. I was trying to give you a little out. The neck took all the weight. The head, the neck took all the weight. Ah. And then when that happened, I realized, listen, I ain't catch my breath until I got in there at halftime. I ain't going to lie. I had to get two IVs too. Yes. Yeah. So 15 minutes. Good, good 15 minutes. Good 15 minutes. Hey, I'm going to tell you right now. You know how you take that oxygen and then you pull that mask off? It's worse. Because I never got the oxygen before, Debo. You know, I was, you know. Because then you really, like, it's like you really suck it through a straw then, bro.

36:27Joe Haden:Like, you get all that good fresh. Yeah. You take it off, it's like. You know what I'm saying? Close your window, bro. Denver, you ever played in Denver? Yes, I played in Denver. You pull that air off, oxygen? I ain't get the oxygen, no, Debo. I'm trying to tell you. That boy was in shape. Bro, I thought I had sickle cell or something going on. Thought you were like Ryan. Bro, I was coming up out of it. Man, I played in Denver three times. Twice I left there. Pissing blood. Oh, see? That was bad. That's no good. That's no good. That's no good. What we got next? Shannon. Oh, there he is. Shay Shay.

37:16Hey, y 'all, look here, man.

37:19Joe Haden:We got a guest coming in. Is that the man? Old man. The man, the myth. The man, the myth. Old man, the man, the myth. A.K.A. Unk. A.K.A. Unk. I just call him Shay Shay. Call him Shay Shay. Look here. A.K.A. Mr.

37:39Joe Haden:Mr. Say this, say that. Mr. Say how it is. Mr. Sains. He going to give you something that as Granny said from way back in the old days when you had the Cadillac. He going to give you the bumper against a brick wall and the bumper wouldn't even bend. He going to give you some bars, some old school bars. He going to give you some bars.

38:06Joe Haden:Look here. This is the man that afforded us the opportunity to be where we are right now. Seisei media. Seisei. Shout out Seisei. Shout out Seisei. Shannon. I want to get the middle name. See? You want to come by his full-blown government? Where that boy Ocho at? He ain't got no. We ain't got no. You want to put Ocho in the headlock, huh? You going to put Ocho in the headlock? No, no, no, no, no. That's what you want to do? Mm. I was talking about you. Okay. I ain't going to do that to me. Okay. Okay. Listen, man, he over there getting signed up. I'm over here. I'm over here.

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41:42Joe Haden:Are we human? Yeah. Right here. I'm going to slide over.

42:06Joe Haden:Let it go. Night. Let's go. Big back. What's up, boss?

42:13James Harrison:What's up, what's up?

42:14Joe Haden:How you doing, babe?

42:15James Harrison:I'm good, man. Good. Good to see you. How you guys doing, bro? I'm doing good. Well, doing well. Hall of Fame. Come on.

42:21Joe Haden:Hall of Fame, the man that gave us the opportunity we got right now. We're very thankful for. Nah, man.

42:27James Harrison:I mean, I thought you guys did an unbelievable job filling in for Ocho and I this summer. And that was the whole purpose of it, was to try to get people and just like, okay, let's see how they handle this situation. How serious are they? Because this is something that you can't do one, you know, do a Monday and then I'm ass. Something came up. I can't do it this week. And that's what you run into a lot. Everybody says they want to do it. And then all of a sudden they get into it and then they realize how much work it actually takes. And then all of a sudden they back away. But we reached out to James and he was like, I'll do it.

43:02I was like, I was like, well, James.

43:04James Harrison:I had been fighting him for a while.

43:06Joe Haden:That's probably why you were surprised. I had been fighting him. I was very surprised. I'm like, actually, Reesa talked me into it. She's like, just come on, just do it. You might like it. You don't know. I'm like, dude, you know I don't. I'm like, all right.

43:18James Harrison:Because when Ash called me and said, what James says, Deebo said, he'll do it. I said, do what? Like, he'll do it. He'll do, you know, I was like, does he understand that, like, this is like three times and it's like an hour to two hours? She's like, yeah. And then after you did it, she's like, he really likes it and I think he wants to do one. I was like, serious? I want to just find out how serious he is about doing it, and let's find someone that we can pair him with and go from there. And you guys, you know, you guys have done an unbelievable job, so I really appreciate you guys working at it.

43:51James Harrison:And the thing is that you try to get better and better each time you do it. And there's a lot of work that goes into it, and you guys have put the work in, so I'm extremely proud of you.

43:59Joe Haden:Oh, man, thank you. Yeah, give me some cheat codes to be more successful at it, because, I mean, you're doing it all well, you know what I'm saying?

44:07James Harrison:You know, I think the biggest thing is be authentic. Be who you are, and everybody knows who you are. I think the hardest thing for you is because, James, you didn't really do a whole lot of talking when you played. So now people are getting an opportunity to hear you. I was always talking. I was always on some bulljacks.

44:22Joe Haden:Yeah.

44:24James Harrison:But your play speaks for itself. Everybody knows an undrafted free agent that went on to be an all-pro, that been a defensive player of the year, that went to multiple Pro Bowls, won a Super Bowl. So your accolades speak for themselves. people don't realize just how much you have to say because you didn't have a lot to say when you actually played you let your play do do your talking so now it takes a while for people like okay he has a lot to say he he knows what he's talking about me I was just the opposite I started out I talked when I played still played at an elite level and then once I once I was done I went straight into television and so people kind of heard my voice but I think the biggest thing is with me.

45:03James Harrison:Look, Nightcap and Club Shea Shea are two different platforms. Club Shea Shea is about the guest. My job is to ask questions, try to make them feel as comfortable as possible and when they come sit down across from me and they look at me, they realize this man ain't here to judge me. My story is my story. I will allow them to tell it without over-talking them. Club Shea Shea, Ocho and I will be on some bull jive. Yes, sir. We're going to break down the games. But our motto is come for the sport, stay for the stories. And we have a lot of stories having, you know, obviously I'm about to be 58 in about five months, four months actually, and to tell stories from high school and college and the professional ranks and things that have happened in our life at Ocho in the same way.

45:46James Harrison:So I think that's the biggest thing. Just be consistent. People like consistency. There's a reason why, like, when you look at sitcoms, they came on at the same time every week. They didn't come on one. Okay, this week Seinfeld came on Monday. Next week he's going to come on Thursday. The next week he's going to come on Saturday. It's every single. And so people like to like, oh, man, D-Boy and Joe, they come on every Monday, Tuesday, and Friday. They're going to come on at the same time. Okay, boom, let's lock that in. And so that's basically how you do it. But you have to be consistent, and you can't be afraid.

46:21James Harrison:Whatever you say, you have to stand behind it. And look, if you get better information, more information, you're like, okay, this is what I thought. but now more information has come forward and then you move off of that. But I think that's the biggest thing for me is what I've learned is that, look, I know what I know. What I don't know, I'm willing to ask. And if I'm wrong, I'll say I was wrong in this situation. Let me tell you why I said what I said. But new information has come out and we move forward.

46:50Joe Haden:So when you first got started, how was that process? What were you learning through and building through to where you're at now at your first spot?

47:00James Harrison:When we started Club Shea Shea, Fox wrote it into my contract that I would do a podcast. I had no idea. The only person I knew had a podcast was Joe Rogan. I didn't understand anything about podcasts and things like that. And so CJ, who's my EP, was at Fox. And he was trying to explain it to me. I said, well, all right, we'll do it. And it just so happens the first couple of years we didn't do anything, but then COVID happened. And so they wanted an alternative to have people to be able to sit down and have something to watch and not be bored and have the monotony of the day just overtake them.

47:35James Harrison:And so I was like, CJ, man, I got to start this pod. I mean, what are you thinking? I was like, man, who am I going to call? He's like, look in your phone, call the most famous people that you know and see if they'll come on your podcast. It's going to be remote. So all he got to do, I was like, okay. So I'm looking at my phone. I got Floyd Mayweather. I got Snoop Dogg. I got Ice Cube. I got Master P. I got Magic Johnson. I was like, okay. And, you know, reached out to Gil. But DeMar DeRozan was the actual first guy that we did it live because prior to that, everything was Zoom. Right. And we were still getting good numbers.

48:18James Harrison:I mean, my brother went on, and he was my very first guest, and he did a million views. And I was like, CJ, is that good? CJ looked at me like, do you understand? I was like, is that good, CJ? He's like, no, that ain't good. That's great. I was like, oh, okay. So I just thought it was easy. And once we got that, because I think the thing is, is that I always ask the guests, is there anything that you don't want to talk about? and in the process of asking them that, I believe, because if you're sitting on that couch, I believe you have a career that's expansive enough and that's spanned long enough that we can talk about things that's not your most salacious or most embarrassing detail and you still have a very interesting story to tell.

49:04James Harrison:Gotcha. And so that's how I look at that. Nightcap is that when I was leaving, when I left Undisputed, I went to the volume. And the thing I love about Club Shay Shay is weekly, but it's just hard to get around something that's weekly. YouTube, it rewards frequency. So I needed something that we could do, you know, two, three times a week. And so Jamie Horowitz and I, who was at the volume, he's like, so what do you think about this? He says, you can own a space that nobody's in. I was like, okay, what kind of space is that? He said, have you thought about potentially, you know, after games? I was like, yeah, I like that.

49:47James Harrison:I like that. Yeah, that sounds good. I said, we'll come on. We'll do like 30 minutes. We'll take the three of the four most important games, and we'll discuss them. I was like, okay, yeah, I like that. He said, you want to do it by? I said, no, I don't want to do it by myself. He said, who would you want to do it with? I said, Ocho. Instantly. He said, Chad Johnson? Yeah. I said, yeah. He said, why? I said, because he's unassuming. I said, he doesn't take himself too serious, and he's the antithesis of what I am. He don't take anything serious. I take everything serious. So it's going to work because of his personality and my personality.

50:24James Harrison:And it just so happens that his agent used to work with my agent in the office. So I called him. I said, Doug, man, what are Ocho doing? He's like, man, it's funny that you say that. Ocho's in town right now. I said, can you guys meet us at De Palme? say, I think this was like a Wednesday or a Thursday. Can you meet us at the Palm at, say, 1 o 'clock? He's like, yeah, no problem. So he shows up, and I'm telling him what I'm trying to do. I said, man, look here, check this out. I got this idea. Jamie and I, we got this idea. I said, what we would do is that after the game, after the Sunday night football game, after the Monday night football game, we would go live, and we would talk about Sunday.

51:04James Harrison:Obviously, Sunday night, there's a lot more to talk about, but we'd talk about all the games and interesting stories. and he's like, I mean, I said, bro, I just, I didn't tell you the rest of it. He said, I don't care. He said, Unc, if you're doing it, I want to be a part of it. And the rest of that, they say, is history. That's so good. That makes sense.

51:22Joe Haden:Yeah, definitely.

51:24James Harrison:But that's the thing. I think the thing is, is that it's really hard. I take my hat off to Colin because Colin, for the most part, speaks three hours every day, and it's basically him. He bounces things off Jason occasionally. But for him to talk three hours a day by himself, Me, I want a different person. I want a different perspective. Okay, this is what I think. What do you think? And then we go back and forth. Sometimes we debate that situation. And sometimes we're like, okay, we're going to agree to disagree. But for the most part, I need someone to have a different perspective, a divergent opinion than what I have.

51:59James Harrison:Because even though we kind of played the same position, I was a tight end, he was a wide receiver, we see things differently. We see a lot of things differently. I'm going to hold guys accountable. But I realize now as I've gotten older and in this age of social media and Internet, these guys are different, man. These guys, but I couldn't. You feel like it's sensitive. They are. But you know what would bother me, Deebo and Joe, is that the lateness, I cared about winning. All this other brand building and all this other stuff and TikTok videos and all this. And I was talking to someone. I was talking to Sherm last night.

52:38James Harrison:I said, Sharm, I'm going to be honest with you, bro. If I was currently playing, ain't no way I'd do a podcast. No. No. Not while I'm an active player. I could. I would be, you know, I would have a general idea of kind of direction that I want to go in. But to have it and to be, because what happens when you play good, you're going to want to talk. And when you play bad, you ain't got issues to say. Yes.

52:58Joe Haden:So, so, now. Yes. So, now how much of that podcast is really, truly 100 % authentic? because you're not going to be taking the comments and questions that come from the loss, especially things that may be directed towards coaches and ownership and all that because you're still there.

53:13James Harrison:Because you know what they're going to say? See, Deebo, if you got your ass off that podcast, you'd have played. A thousand percent. And you're going to feel some type of way, hey, Joe, you out there getting cooked because you're up there. Out there podcasting. Backpedal. Watch some tape. No question. And so that's how it is. And I think the thing is, look, for the longest time, When I first got into the league in 90, guys had a problem with people critiquing their play that didn't play the game. Yes.

53:39Joe Haden:Yeah.

53:39James Harrison:They was like, you know what? I don't have a problem with somebody critiquing my game if they played said game. Okay, so now fast forward. We got guys that played the game. We played the game at an elite level. We don't know nothing.

53:52Joe Haden:And now we don't know. Yeah. The game is what the game is. The game is what the game is. And that's when I say, too, how you say, when we know the plays, I'm not trying to say the corner gets beat on this play. If you get blown coverage, I'm going to call it out. Yes. That's not, you got to make sure you got your man. You know what I'm saying? Exactly.

54:09James Harrison:Them not being able to take accountability. No, they won't. They won't because it's almost like, well, you hating. No. Have you seen my resume? I don't want to hate them. I've seen your resume and I've seen my resume. Now, you tell me why I'm hating. I'm just saying. I'm not saying, and they take everything so personal, I'm not saying you're a bad player. Yes. I'm saying that was a bad play, and you happen to be involved in it. 1 ,000%. But they can't take it like that. But I think the thing is, Time told me something very long time ago. He says, when you say something, it stings, it hurts more because, he said, Shannon, you got a gold jacket.

54:49James Harrison:You went to Pro Bowls, you went to All-Pro, and you won Super Bowls. you're just not some arbitrary guy saying something about said player so what you say holds more weight and I was like you're right you you you absolutely right and that's why I stopped speaking on the Hall of Fame because they would take pro football Hall of Famer says he doesn't think such and such should be in the Hall of Fame that ain't what I said you asked me a question I was like so I just thought I just stopped speaking when it came to the Hall of Fame I'm still going to critique hell out of these players and I think for the most part when I run into players they will tell me this they own you hard but you fair yeah and at the end of the day that's all you can be you be fair to the individual it's not personal I don't know the individual I don't know this I don't know what he does I don't know if he's married he has a girlfriend he has kids I don't know anything about I don't know anything about his back I'm just critiquing you about what I see on the field that's how I judge you I'm judging what you do on the field I'm not judging you as a father.

55:48James Harrison:I'm not judging you as a son. I'm not judging you as a brother. I'm judging you as a football player based on my knowledge and based on what I see. That's it.

55:58Joe Haden:I think they take too much of it personally and it's like an impersonal attack on them. No, it's an attack on what you're doing as a player in that position. On that play. Yes, on that play or that game. You might have messed up the whole damn game. You know what I'm saying?

56:15James Harrison:Well, hopefully you didn't mess up the whole day, man. But guys, I want to congratulate you guys. You guys are doing an unbelievable job, man. It means a lot that you guys, you thought enough of me and my platform and to want to have your own platform up under my platform. That means a lot. Continue success. Continue to work hard. And it's only up. The first year is always the hardest. It does get easier and easier. But because it gets easier, that doesn't mean you have to work any less hard. You have to work harder in order for it to grow. And I'm sure you guys will continue this great success.

56:45James Harrison:I appreciate you guys.

56:46Joe Haden:Appreciate you, boss. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Look here, baby. Hey, how you want to run that one? You want to do it right now with the... Let's go. Shay, thank you for coming on. Appreciate you, boss. What time we got? I'm in the building. Woo. What we got now? 9.54. What we on, D-Bow? We got six minutes. We got time. Sweats back over here. We got another one up there. Bro, rap, rap. I think it's time to wrap it up, Debo. Damn. Already. Look here, man. Man. We want to thank you. We want to thank you guys for coming out here. Look here. Let's talk about the game. Who you got? You know who I got. Seahawks.

57:33Joe Haden:You got Seahawks? Seahawks. I got New England. They already know what it is. Okay. What's your score? 27-24. 27-24, Joe said. what I'm going to go with I'm going to go with the same thing except it's going to be the Patriots okay I can respect look here man we want to thank y 'all for joining on this episode of Debo and Joe please like subscribe and download the show we'll be back on Monday yes yes yes at the crib talk about the Super Bowl and how the Patriots went on here and did everything I said they was going to do and how Joe once again is going to be saying Debo you was right Joe Go Seahawks.

58:15Joe Haden:And we out.

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