In short
Unc & Ocho debate two sports-related headlines and broader money/culture issues. Main segments: (1) a Wisconsin man allegedly faked his drowning to escape his family using a $375,000 life insurance payout, and whether that amount is “enough” to live on; (2) Patriots talk about whether they could release/avoid Stephon Diggs before he plays, plus discussion of New England “Patriot way” culture; (3) NBA free agency/contract talk (Brandon Ingram leaving $160M for $120M) and whether cities/management affect winning; (4) relationship/divorce commentary.
Guests
No named guests appear; it’s Unc and Ocho Cinco (hosts) plus chat participants. A referenced sports voice is Scott Zolak (Boston Sports Talk Radio host; former Patriots QB), quoted about Diggs.
Key claims
$375,000 is either “a lot” or “not a lot” depending on lifestyle and whether the person can work; faking death would require planning/identity changes; New England limits distractions more than other franchises; Diggs could help despite offseason behavior; management/environment can influence players’ willingness to sign.
Notable examples
Ocean’s Eleven (identity/escape), Catch Me If You Can (identity), Full Metal Jacket (discipline analogy), Patriots culture vs Ravens/Lamar Jackson, and NBA examples like Zion/Brandon Ingram.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOMan Fakes Death for Insurance Money
0:00 to 0:34
Discussing the bizarre case of a man who faked his own death to escape family.
“When you're moving like I do, you don't always get a lot of lead time.”
Man Fakes Death for Insurance Money
2:25 to 3:00
Discussing the bizarre case of a man who faked his own death to escape family.
“A Wisconsin man apparently took out a$375 ,000 life insurance policy, faked his own drowning so he could abandon his family and flee to Europe.”
Debating the Viability of Faking Death
3:00 to 5:50
Unc and Ocho debate the practicalities and ethics of faking one's death.
“You know how bad it has to be as a family man with kids and a wife to fake your death and want to leave and use insurance money?”
Evaluating Financial Realities
5:50 to 7:40
A heated discussion on the financial implications of living off $375,000.
“is not a lot of money for a lifetime bro um you comparing these regular folks to you people don't even make 375 in they lifetime how you gonna tell them The average person makes$50 ,000 a year.”
Understanding Average Salaries in America
7:40 to 10:40
Examining current salary statistics and their relevance to the average person.
“Department said this is what everybody make, this is minimum, everybody's great.”
Cost of Living in Europe vs. the U.S.
10:40 to 14:00
A discussion about the differences in living costs between Europe and the U.S.
“You can't listen to nothing they put out.”
Saluting American Grit
14:00 to 14:38
A toast to the enduring spirit and history of American tobacco culture.
“this can of Copenhagen goes out to those defending the free American soil, that our tobacco has taken root in for over two centuries and counting.”
Cheapest Places to Live in Europe
14:39 to 18:04
Discussion about low-cost living options in various European countries.
“They just tell you where the cheapest places to go in Europe to live is.”
Faking Death and Living on the Run
18:05 to 19:25
Exploration of the implications and realities of faking one's death.
“And I think with understanding, he knows he would have to have a job.”
The High Cost of Living
19:26 to 22:49
Analysis of the rising costs and how they affect people's financial stability.
“You know somebody that got a section that you gonna pay what's to prepare?”
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Understanding Economic Struggles
22:50 to 27:08
A look into economic challenges faced by individuals despite their income levels.
“Think about what it cost to buy a house back in the 60s.”
Employee Raises and Discussions
28:01 to 28:30
The hosts discuss employee compensation in a humorous context.
“Next time my employees come out They need a raise I'm like hey the chat said y 'all can live off 37 ,500 a year So y 'all good Ash Ash can't Ash can't live off 37 ,000 Damn there's 37 ,000 a month The way he be spinning.”
Employee Raises and Discussions
28:53 to 29:19
The hosts discuss employee compensation in a humorous context.
“Your away game road trip doesn't start at the kickoff.”
Discussion on Stephon Diggs and Patriots Dynamics
30:54 to 39:41
The hosts debate the implications of Scott Zolak's comments on Stephon Diggs and the Patriots culture.
“Boston Sports Talk Radio host and former New England Patriots quarterback Scott Zolak says it's possible that the Pats could release Stephon Diggs before he ever plays it down for the team.”
Cultural Shifts in Football
39:41 to 42:00
The conversation shifts to the changing culture in football and how it relates to player behavior.
“and they wanted to make another leap this year.”
Brandon Ingram's Decision to Leave New Orleans
42:00 to 50:42
Explore the factors influencing Brandon Ingram's decision to leave the Pelicans for the Raptors.
“I don't know in what world, chat, y 'all stay with me real quick now.”
The Complexity of Happiness and Wealth
50:54 to 55:18
Discuss the relationship between happiness and wealth, referencing billionaires and personal satisfaction in relationships.
“Listen, Brandon Ingram did not make this decision, didn't take this decision lightly.”
The Complexity of Happiness and Wealth
56:00 to 56:34
Discuss the relationship between happiness and wealth, referencing billionaires and personal satisfaction in relationships.
“Product for tobacco consumers 21 years of age or older.”
Transcript
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2:25Shannon Sharpe:A Wisconsin man apparently took out a$375 ,000 life insurance policy, faked his own drowning so he could abandon his family and flee to Europe. Ocho, would you fake your own death? Absolutely not. I mean, he faked his death, tried to get away from his wife, get away from his kids. For one, I'm not faking my death because I love my kids. I want to be here. You know, I had too much fun with them. But he must have been miserable. He must have been really miserable. You know how bad it has to be as a family man with kids and a wife to fake your death and want to leave and use insurance money? like think like like logically think about that it has to be really bad i'm trying to figure out how long he thought ocho how long he thought 375 000 were you gonna get another job or something well it depends it depends on his lifestyle it depends on how he lived you're not 375 could could be a fortune to some people especially if you live way below your means or you're not a spender like that well you got to pay rent does he have a place already paid for is he gonna get a car.
3:38You got to understand, everybody, everybody, everybody don't move like that. You feel me? Some people get...
3:44Shannon Sharpe:So how you gonna get around? You just gonna walk? I mean, you going to the UK? He in Europe, huh? He was moving somewhere in Europe. You get your little moped, you good. Okay, but what you gonna eat? Where you gonna live? Some of the people don't even make$375 ,000 in their lifetime. I'm sure he was gonna be straight now. Come on now. Yeah, somebody that works a minimum wage job, yeah, if you work at a fast food chain, probably, maybe not. But I'm just saying, I don't know how old was he, Ash? Ocho, let's just say for the sake of argument, he spends $20 ,000 a year. He's in his mid-40s. He spends$20 ,000 a year.
4:25Shannon Sharpe:In 20 years, it's gone. That's just if he just spends$20 ,000. Can you live off$20 ,000 a year? Who? Ocho Cinco. Shit, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I make that bitch stretch. I can make it. Listen, I can stretch$100 for a month. You want to bet? You cannot. Did you hear what I just said? You cannot live off$20 ,000 a year, Ocho. Stop it. I can stretch$100 for a month. How you going to tell me? So where you living? So how much is that apartment you got right now? This ain't my place. The apartment that you've been flashing, and all the apartments you're looking at, how much they're going to cost? Oh, that?
5:09Shannon Sharpe:I can't disclose how much that is. Exactly. I'm just going to say for a second. Let's just say, I'm going to say, Ocho, Miami Concern, I'm going to say it's going to cost you$3 ,000 a month. That's$36 ,000 right there. I like that. Without lights, without anything. You got a cell phone? That's got number, huh? You got a cell phone? Yeah, my cell phone's free. I'm with AT &T. Okay. hey you have to understand you thinking you thinking from your perspective too you know no I'm thinking from a logical perspective middle age white man you know married three kids you know he ain't living like that man he ain't living like that Ocho 375 ,000 is not a lot of money for a lifetime bro um you comparing these regular folks to you people don't even make 375 in they lifetime how you gonna tell them The average person makes$50 ,000 a year.
6:04Shannon Sharpe:What are you talking about? What? Oh, well, you out of touch with reality. What's the average salary? What's the average salary for an American? In this goddamn economy? The economy doesn't matter. It costs more, but people are still making$48 ,000,$50 ,000 a year. No, they are not. No, they are not. Watch. Tell Ash to look it up real quick. Boy, people out here struggling, boy. 50 ,000 a year will. Hold on. What is it?
6:40Man, you tripping.
6:45Shannon Sharpe:According to the U.S. Department of Labor, the average... Now you don't want to listen. Okay, go ahead. I'm going to let you finish. I'm going to let you finish. I want you to read the chat with the people that are actually living real, the real life. The average salary, the average salary. Go ahead. According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor, the average U.S. salary in 2023 was$59 ,384. That's average. Now, granted, that factors in the LeBron James, the Shohei Otani, and that factors in the people that's making$20 ,000. But even if you made$20 ,000 a year, in 20 years, that's more than 375 ,000.
7:35So everybody motherfucking struggling, but because the U.S. Department said this is what everybody make, this is minimum, everybody's great. Now we got all these goddamn financial issues in the goddamn economy, but you listen to what that goddamn chart got to say.
7:50Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, listen, just because you make 60 ,000, yes, it costs more to live. Yes, groceries are higher. Grass prices are higher. Rent is higher. That doesn't diminish what you make. Yes, it costs more to live. Yes. So that means we're not making enough, right? So you agree. That's besides the point. You said they're not making it. All I'm saying is it costs more to live. So yes, it's going to cost more. The point of the matter was you said$375 wasn't a lot. So we don't know how this man lives. He's going to Europe for one. Right? Stay with me now. Yes. He's going to Europe to live. So is he swimming?
8:36Shannon Sharpe:Is he swimming? So how does he get to Europe? Come on, man. I'm just asking. Because you say he's going to live modestly. So I'm just trying to figure out how he gets to Europe. You got to stop throwing out all these hypotheticals, man, trying to spend the man money now. How the man get... I just want to know how he... I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how he gonna do it. I just... Listen. $375 is a lot of goddamn money. I don't care how you spice it. How you kick it. For a lifetime? For a lifetime.
9:21Hey, um. You know some people in this world won't even see a million dollars. That ain't a - that's three - I said 375. I didn't say no million. A million? 375? 500 ,000? Wait, you - Wait, see, you out of touch with reality, man. Come on, man. God, Ali, man. Ocho, you - Now you acting like 375 ain't no goddamn money because you've been making millions all these years. Ocho, I'm saying - People not seeing that kind of money in the regular world, huh?
9:48Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, I'm saying 375 to last you a lifetime. Yes, if he gets a job and lives modestly, that's one thing. You said the man can have 375 and he going to be straight. Where?
10:08If you got people that would never see 375, you got somebody that gets a lump sum of 375 that lives below his means and lives the right way. in this economy? He's going to Europe. He's not here. He left. Their economy worse than I was. What are you talking about?
10:27Shannon Sharpe:Where? In Europe? Oh, my mercy.
10:36We don't live over there. How you know?
10:40Shannon Sharpe:I read. Oh, you can't listen. You can't listen to nothing they put out. Oh, Lord, have mercy. You can't listen to nothing they put out. Okay. Hold on. Let me do my little homework real quick. Go ahead. Hold on. I'm looking right now. Hold on.
11:08Okay. No. What you doing okay for? I'm just saying. That was quick. Hold on. $375 ,000 is not a lot of money. I know one thing.
11:17Shannon Sharpe:No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not going to let you press that off. I'm not going to let you press that off. It ain't no money. No, no, no, no, no, no. Don't press that off, Ocho. No, no, no, no, no. I want you to cut a chat with agreeing with Ocho. Read what you just said. Read what you saw. No, it's just certain people. I'm reading certain people talking about that ain't no money. Okay. No, read what the cost of living is in Europe. oh i i couldn't find it i can't yes you could because you said okay oh you're right no no no read it read it come on don't you don't do that i'm gonna tell you right now i'm gonna tell you right now hold on quiet confidence it's not what you see it's what you feel a suit tailored just for you a perfectly timed guy's trip choosing on plus nicotine pouches over rough corners and edges because some things may look better but the other things simply feel better On plus nicotine pouches with Nikko Silk Mesh.
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14:28Boy, hey, listen, y 'all, hold on, watch this.
14:38The cheapest cost of living in Europe.
14:49Damn. Damn what? They don't tell you the numbers. They just tell you where the cheapest places to go in Europe to live is. I mean, Portugal, Poland, Romania, Estonia. see that they Athens Greece they're not they're not giving me numbers on what you would need to live in these places that's something I would I would need to see we need to come back to this
15:11Shannon Sharpe:topic because this is a great topic this is this is the great topic because what is the average what part of Europe okay what part of Europe are you talking about I don't we don't know Eastern Europe we don't know that's 30 so hold on so that's 30 so that's 37 ,500 a year now you said he's not you said he can live off that that means he's not getting a job and he's living up 37 five a year why wouldn't he get a job why would he have a job because that was the argument ocho i said that's not a lot of money now if he's going to get a job yes don't get a job he's going and going to europe like he's some damn he just robbed the goddamn bank oh show work oh show let me see the man faked his death so you think he's gonna go get a job yes do you know how they do that?
16:03Do you know how they get caught? You don't think you know how to create a new identity? Do you know how they get caught? Did you see Ocean's Eleven?
16:14Shannon Sharpe:Ocho. Yeah. There's a manhunt looking for him. He's not dead. Ain't nobody looking for him. How do you think we having a conversation, Ocho? His wife snitched on him. But you said ain't nobody looking for him. No, I said his wife snitched on him. So how do you think we having a conversation? so he gonna go get a job mate you you don't understand we got it come on down here man to the real world with us regular folks Ocho you talking to somebody that grew up I understand I do but I also understand how I was living how many people wants to live in a thousand twelve hundred square foot with minimal
17:07Shannon Sharpe:necessities. That's way back in the 50s, man. It's 2024. But you also have to understand, Ocho, think about what you were accustomed to. Right. That's what I'm saying. This man is on the run. If you're on the run, how are you going to go get a job, Ocho? Do you know how all the things that you can do on a black market to change your identity and be a completely new person in a new place, I shouldn't... Let me stop before I get myself in trouble. I ain't finished... I'm not sitting here and talking about that stuff on here because I really shouldn't know nothing about it. But it's possible. It's very possible.
17:43People do it all the time.
17:44Shannon Sharpe:Yes! It's possible. But you got to make it... But Ocho, think about it. Think about all the people that did things and went to countries. Hell, they caught a guy that killed... He killed two police officers in D.C. They found him in a hut in Africa.
18:01Shannon Sharpe:man man please Ocho yes yeah if he wants if he wants a menial job yes but I'm saying but you said $3.75 was a lot of money to do what to do nothing I mean listen you're talking to the cheapest dude in the world man so to me but we just had a conversation when you have no money coming in and it's going out. Right. That's all right. And I think with understanding, he knows he would have to have a job. How are you going to do that? Yes. If he gets a job that doesn't, maybe he gets a job that doesn't require information. They're going to pay you under the table, but okay, your identity. They post that because you know they're going to post it.
18:53Shannon Sharpe:Have you seen this guy? You know what? I work with a guy that looks just like him at the butcher mart. Or I work at a guy with him in the factory. Then what?
19:11That's a good topic. I like that. Good topic. One thing about it, we'll never know. Yeah.
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19:18Shannon Sharpe:Hell nah. I damn sure don't want to know how to live. I already know. I'm not finna have to live off no 375 for the rest of my life. hell nah
19:30Shannon Sharpe:and then Ocho what happens when they freeze that well hopefully he got the check because they put where you gonna cash your American check at in the UK hey you saw the movie he must be gonna cash the check hey you saw the movie Catch Me If You Can yeah I do Frank Abagnale yeah I watched the movie oh man boy so many things you can do with that identity man I'm trying to figure out how y 'all like I'm trying to figure out how y 'all talking about I moved the goalpost it's 375 for the rest of your life
20:15Shannon Sharpe:I'm just trying to figure out how I'm moving the goalpost so where you living at what's your rent
20:22Shannon Sharpe:even the dingiest place gonna charge you what? What you gonna get out of me? You know somebody that got a section that you gonna pay what's to prepare? Let's just say, Ocho, you get one of these thousand dollar thousand dollar a month.
20:39Shannon Sharpe:Okay. That means you can only spend $37 ,500, Ocho. Yeah. You ain't about to have no power. you ain't gonna have no air condition you ain't gonna have no lights what you gonna eat there's a way because before you fake a death you already have a format and a plan out you got everything already planned out before you do all that so I don't know what his plan was I'm not sure if he made it I'm not sure how he got caught but it's something that happens all the time this might this just happened to be the one who did get caught man i'm just trying to figure out like look i understand they're like yeah if you lived in miss i'm trying to think if you lived in mississippi but still i mean the i understand the cost of everything is elevated so when you factor the cost of everything is elevated and you weigh that by making 37 500 a year that's the problem where people are struggling an Ocho, it's not the fact that, okay, we're not, because they say people that make$150 ,000 is basically living check to check in America because eggs and bread and everything is elevated.
21:58Shannon Sharpe:The price of gas is elevated. The cost of buying a home is elevated. The price to rent a home or apartment is elevated. So if everything is elevated, it's not that people aren't making money, it costs more to live. So if it's costing you $150 ,000 and have some people, and I'm not saying all, obviously, you're probably living in some place like San Francisco or New York or someplace like that, Ocho, you know what I'm saying? Where rent, you're paying $3 ,000,$4 ,000,$5 ,000 a month in rent. Yeah. Just imagine if you're paying$5 ,000 a month in rent. UK UK ain't cheap Ocho it's not I don't know I don't know everybody living in the UK ain't living like god damn no everybody in America ain't living Ocho why you think people complaining I'm just saying Ocho if I made$50 ,000 a year and gas was$1.33 a gallon and I could get three loaves of bread that's something entirely different.
23:11Shannon Sharpe:Think about what it cost to buy a house back in the 60s. Think about what it cost to buy a car in the 60s. You could buy a car. You could buy a house. I mean, now a house is a car. Yeah. Yeah. You ain't buying no three-bedroom, two-bedroom house for no 60 grand. That's what it costs. And your monthly payment was probably$75, $80 a month. you got to live within your means yes live within your means and act your wage I see it all the time if you got a certain amount coming in if you have lump sum coming in you have a plan to live within that means and make that bitch stretch all I'm saying is people if I gave you guys 300 let's just say somebody gave you 375 ,000 you retiring because if that's a lot of money you can retire Kick your feet up.
24:06Like, I'm good. Hey, people in the chat, they rich. Because everybody said$375 ,000 ain't no goddamn money.
24:13Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, when you... Ocho, you talking about for the rest of your life, Ocho. See, I think you're getting confused talking about$375 ,000 a year. I'm talking about for the rest of your life. The rest of your natural life.
24:33Shannon Sharpe:Somebody talking about I'm going to flip it. bro you gonna be back to work tomorrow you gonna be back to work tomorrow because if that's all your money you got and you willing to risk it I already know what you about to do
24:47Shannon Sharpe:somebody say we gonna be at tomorrow back working
24:57Shannon Sharpe:ain't no Ocho who taking Ocho who taking their last and try to flip it man
25:14hey well y 'all hell boy
25:21Shannon Sharpe:75 % of the people say no they couldn't live off 375 for the rest of their life hey Osho what they gonna do they gonna play our parlays they're gonna play our draft king parlay
25:39Shannon Sharpe:like look i mean the thing was ocho if you look at it the way we grew up in the house we had we didn't have to pay rent on it but you know my grandmother's living off 197 every two months right you're gonna have to eat you're gonna have to do something because i remember man i ain't eat no. So if your mama, your grandma bringing in$197 every two weeks, you tell me what steak and ribs you think you eating. Right. Oh, man, that was funny. Yeah, bro. People forget, Ocho. I think people forget. I think people look at us now and what they see is they see Shannon now. I know what it's like to make $25.
26:28Shannon Sharpe:I know what it's like to make$100 a week. I do. I know that's not a lot of money. And I know what the cost of things now, I'm like, well, damn. And that's what people are having a problem with. It's not that they're not making more money. It's that the cost of living is going up and it's eating into the money that they're making. So if If I'm making this, Ocho, I don't want prices to stuff that I need to do this also. I need my money to go this way, and I need, hey, y 'all be graduate bread and gas and food prices. I need the creep. Hell, let's move it up at the same pace. Oh, I got to get some tissue.
27:09Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all got me crying, man. Hold on.
27:16Shannon Sharpe:Man, I just, man. Somebody told me I moved to Uganda.
27:28hey but you say oh boy you say if he gonna flip it you ain't gonna be right back to work tomorrow
27:37yeah
27:40Shannon Sharpe:okay flip okay man please man look I know what stuff I'm not I'm not naive I got a lot of households to fill Oh man I needed that laugh But you know what Next time my employees come out They need a raise I'm like hey the chat said y 'all can live off 37 ,500 a year So y 'all good Ash Ash can't Ash can't live off 37 ,000 Damn there's 37 ,000 a month The way he be spinning. Oh, man. When you're teeing off and your clients are watching, it's on. When the game goes to overtime and your squad is right there with you, it's on. When you swap out that other nicotine pouch for something softer and feel the difference right away, it's on.
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28:47Shannon Sharpe:Not all varieties available in all geographies. Warning, this product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical. Hey, sports fans. Your away game road trip doesn't start at the kickoff. It starts on the road. Before heading to the game in Eugene, take a moment to enjoy the journey and explore Tualatin Valley, located just west of Portland and north of Eugene. Sip world-class Pinot Noir, soak in picturesque views, and craft a game day trip you'll talk about all season. Take the scenic route to Tualatin Valley and make every mile part of the game. Learn more at etvor.com slash fans. ChatGPT can do more than answer questions.
29:26It can help you get real work done. ChatGPT work is built for bigger projects with multiple steps. You bring the goal along with the information it needs, like briefs, notes, files, feedback, calendars, data sets, or project plans. Then ChatGPT can help turn all of that into something useful. An analysis, a tracker, a deck outline, a prototype, or a workflow you can keep shaping. It can also use approved apps, connected tools, files, and browser contexts to help move the work forward. And you stay in control. You give direction, review drafts, approve actions, redirect the work, and choose the final output.
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31:04Shannon Sharpe:Speaking on 98-5 Sports Hub, Zolak said the following about the potential of the Patriots cutting digs. I came to this show yesterday with the opinion, with the opinion, not an opinion, but the knowledge that is on the table. That is being thought of, and it's just not the boat. It's just not the boat. There are some other things that I've heard that put some things into question. Are you all in here? Ocho, this is what he said. I came to this show yesterday with the opinion, not an opinion, but the knowledge that it is on the table.
31:49A whole bunch of nothing.
31:52Shannon Sharpe:That's what I say. Ocho, but you know when you go to a place like New England, you know, Ocho, you know how you got to move. You can't move like you can't. I know it's the offseason, but you can't move like you were there. As a matter of fact, I don't even want to talk about it. Talk about when you were there. Hold on, hold on. Bill Belichick ain't there no more? It's the same system. Bill Belichick. Let me ask you a question. Mike Vrabel doesn't work with a hard hand the way Bill does. Now, we talk about a players coach now. You got Mike in there. It's a different ballgame. Okay. I'm sure he doesn't run that motherfucker like a military system.
32:32Hey, Chad. Hey, Unc. I swear for God. my right hand to God if anybody in the chat has seen the movie Full Metal Jacket if you've seen the movie Full Metal Jacket I know you saw Full Metal Jacket right? remember the beginning of the movie yes I've never been to the army never been to the navy never been a marine but the way the drill sergeant was in that movie is what it felt like the structure, the discipline where everything had to be right the cursing, it didn't matter who you were. Everybody was expendable. That's the type of ship Bill ran.
33:10Shannon Sharpe:This is what Mike Rabel said. He wasn't happy with the video either. It's something we're aware of, and obviously we want to make great decisions on and off the field. Any conversation that I've had with Stephon will remain between him and I and the club. So I'm going to ask you again, Ocho. Yeah. if it was no big deal do you believe the head coach would have said what he said we didn't have any conversation we may or may not have will remain he had no choice but to say something because everybody made a big deal of the goddamn thing was if it's no big deal no no no i don't worry about what the fans say i ain't got nothing to do with it i run the club no no no you have to because that's the that's the era we're in we're in a social media era so if there's that video bill belichick ever respond did bill belichick ever respond now there were things going on the Tennessee, he didn't respond to it.
34:00Shannon Sharpe:Why are you trying to compare Bill and Mike? They're two completely different coaches. There are different coaches, but where do you think he learned how to coach? Where do you think you learned from what you're around? I have a question. Yes. Everybody under Bill's relationship that went to be a head coach, how did they do? I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. Nobody's been able to do or emulate or cop at what he's done. But here's the thing. You want to have as few of distractions, teams that have few distractions those are the teams that normally win not saying always because the Cowboys of the 90s they were so talented they had distractions and won regardless but the question look here for Scott Zolak to say what he said he said this is not an opinion who is Scott Zolak he calls play by play he does color for the Patriots okay okay he was there when you was there Okay.
34:57Shannon Sharpe:All right. He said this is not, he said with the opinion, not an opinion, but the knowledge that it is on the table. Now, why would he have said that if it's not the case?
35:13They say a lot of things. They say a lot of things. So you say he making this up? No, I just say I take it with a great assault.
35:21Shannon Sharpe:Okay. Can I ask you a question? Yeah. who's the best receiver that wide receiver right now? That ain't how they do it in new England. It's the Patriot way. It ain't, you don't even have the players to have the Patriot way anymore. You can't move. Number 12 is gone. Ray Lewis is not there. Terrell Suggs, Ed Reed are not in Baltimore. You play like a Raven. You have a Lamar Jackson. It's different. You have a Lamar Jackson. There is no Tom Brady. Lamar Jackson did not fit the culture in Baltimore. I don't care how great Lamar is, Lamar Jackson did not set the culture for what's in Baltimore. That was long established way before Lamar Jackson set foot in Baltimore.
36:06Shannon Sharpe:Wait, I'm talking about from a skill set. Drake made Lamar Jackson. I'm talking about the culture in which you do think, Ocho, the military, first of all, it's not people that go to the military. It's been established. The military run regardless of who's there. You set the standard. You do things a certain way. I'm not, listen. I don't really know Stephon Diggs. I know he's a phenomenal receiver. I know he's coming off an injury. And I do believe he can help the Patriots. Yeah. He's the best receiver there. What do you mean? Believe. On one leg. Ocho. Was he the best receiver in Buffalo? Yeah.
36:45Shannon Sharpe:And then let him go. Was he? He was one of the best receivers in Houston. And then let him go. Yeah, yes. But Niko Collin was that boy. Niko Collin, damn near top five. Let me ask you a question. Was Tyreek Hill the best receiver in Kansas City? Hell yeah. Was Randy Moss the best receiver in Minnesota, in Oakland, in New England? Was T.O. the best receiver in San Francisco? Was he the best receiver in Philly? Was he the best receiver in Dallas? Yeah. You see where I'm going with this? Yes. Okay. I see you going. But also, everybody doesn't have to move like a goddamn robot. It's the offseason.
37:24He's on a boat. Okay. No, everybody don't want to fucking live like that. Okay.
37:29Shannon Sharpe:That's fucking boring. Ocho. He's going about having fun with women. I don't, Ocho, you killing the messenger. No, no, no, no, no. Stay with me. Listen, listen to me. Stay with me real quick. When you play, you operate in a different manner. You operate, stay with me. I love you to death. You operate in a different manner. Yeah. New England, they have a certain way to do things. Everybody's not living life born like a fucking robot. everybody can operate that way but here's the thing he did nothing on he's on a boat that's it listen they talk about he knows he's being filmed so whatever he's passing out is not what people are saying it is i'm sure he told rabel that it was harmless oh joe all i'm saying is is that excuse me in certain situations you have to move accordingly i understand that in the offseason, that should be my free time.
38:26Shannon Sharpe:Right. But you just have to, you know, you have to move a certain way. I got you. That's all I'm saying. I'm with you. I'm with you. But listen. Listen, we're in a different time. We're in a different time. Players are a little different. You ain't go nowhere. You know my cheap ass ain't go nowhere. I've been in Miami all my life. I've been on the boat one time in 2000, and I threw up. I ain't been on the boat since. Right. So, I mean, just I'm just looking at it from a different landscape, not defending Stefan Diggs at all. I'm just looking at it from a different standpoint of, but damn, these boys can't even live their life.
39:02Cameras everywhere. You really can't do nothing.
39:05Shannon Sharpe:You can't go nowhere. But you know it was like that in New England, Ocho. Because guess who's still there? Mr. Kraft. You think he's on board with this? You know how he is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But listen, they had one year, right? Yes. They gave, they fired, what's his name after, come on, what's his name? Oh, Gerard Mayo. Gerard Mayo. They gave him one year, you know, Friday. So now, Brable's there. We want to turn things around fast as possible. Get all the pieces around a quarterback in Drake May, who played very well last year, and they wanted to make another leap this year. giving them all the right pieces and players that make his job easier stephan digs is one of those players that makes his job easier in that in that wide receiver room veteran presence very good receiver one of the better rock runners of the league despite acl injury hell he won the better rock runners the league with one motherfucking leg excuse me for cursing but i understand what happened steph probably won't have this issue again probably won't be on these boats again probably won't be around cameras again, but he still will.
40:19It's the same life he's always lived. This has always been him, I'm sure. You know, I know him personally. And just what we saw isn't what it was.
40:30Shannon Sharpe:I believe that. I just think the thing is that you have to understand where, like, okay, maybe they allowed you to do that in Buffalo, allowed you to do that in Houston. But you know when you go to New England, they operate on a different set of rules. they do they and they and they really and they really do uh because mr crab you know he like the little distraction as possible uh even though coach belichick the patriot i guarantee you they still got to sign up and say even coach belichick is gone absolutely is gone they probably still got a thing up that says the patriot way just like the ravens have up play like a raven yeah Absolutely.
41:08Shannon Sharpe:That culture was established a long time ago. And the thing is, is that what helped Baltimore is, as you mentioned, Lamar came in and he bought into that culture. Play to a standard. I'm playing. All that other stuff don't even matter. Yeah. I played to the coach. I played like a Raven. The Ray Lewis's and the Rod Woodson's and the Terrell Suggs and the Ed Reed. Myself, when I was there, there's a standard in which you play to. And it helps when you don't have a Ray Lewis and all those guys there, but you still have a Lamar. Right. And so Lamar's job is make sure the guys that hopefully he has another decade that he trades like, look, guys, I'm not going to be here forever.
41:54but
41:56Shannon Sharpe:there's a tradition here and your job is to uphold that so it's just a different time now Ocho it's different it is really really different and it's so funny I'm not going to go there I'm not going to go there but we talk about you know what I ain't going to do it because we talk about the Patriots and you know what I'm going to leave it alone Brandon Ingram declined$160 million with the Pelicans only to accept$120 million with the Raptors. But listen, I have a question. I don't know in what world, chat, y 'all stay with me real quick now. I don't know in what world where it's that bad where you leave$40 million on the table and choose to go somewhere else.
42:45You ain't nobody finna say and tell me, listen, I just left New Orleans for a week, six, seven days straight. you ain't for the tell me based on what I saw in that wonderful city culture, the people the food, the architecture the history
43:00Shannon Sharpe:you ain't playing basketball you ain't playing basketball well the devil is alive you just saw Tyreek you just saw Tyreek complain making 32 million in Miami with all that water, with all that nice weather with all the women down there he complaining, now you want to try again Now, wait a minute. Now, listen, that's apples and oranges. You talk about two different scenarios. You talk about a Tyreek Hill that just came off a season that was nothing like he felt it should have been. You had a quarterback that gotten hurt. He wasn't getting the ball like he felt he should. He was frustrated. Stay with me.
43:36He was frustrated about, for one, not putting up the numbers he should. Two, not getting the ball the way he should. And three, he got in front of that camera before he cooled down. That's calling the rule number one. After a game, you make sure you go take a shower and calm down before you say anything you shouldn't say before you get in front of that camera. Now, you're not going to tell me that New Orleans is that bad, even if you do play the game of basketball, to the point where, you know what? I'm not coming back here. I'm not signing here. I'm going to leave$40 million on the table. I'm going to go somewhere else and play$120 million.
44:09Shannon Sharpe:Not going somewhere else. He went to Canada. He went to another country because he want to win. You say frustration. who wants to be there you see Zion you think Zion want to be in New Orleans I mean hold on did Anthony did Anthony Davis want to be in New Orleans so I'm just trying to figure out the players that they've had that wanted to be there you say you can't understand why because I want to win I can't win there well listen well you know what the onus that's that's on management management needs to um make it a place some kind of way, some shape, way, form, or fashion where people want to come.
44:52Shannon Sharpe:Ocho. You need to do what you need to do. Ocho, see, it's great for you, Ocho, if you're a tourist. I'm trying to win. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I ain't no goddamn tourist. I'm from New Orleans. You're a tourist. You go down there for a couple of days. You get to eat the food. You get to get. But I'm saying these guys got to live it. They want to win. and New Orleans is not conducive for winning. It's okay. It's not a knock on the city. But let me ask you a question. What big time free agent signing with New Orleans? I'll wait. You just take your time. We got time. We just getting started.
45:29Shannon Sharpe:Tell me the big time free agent signing with New Orleans. Okay. I understand what you're saying. I understand what you're saying, but you didn't hear what I said first. The onus is on management, creating an environment where people want to come to. There was a time where people didn't want to come to the heat. They always wanted to come to the heat. First of all, first of all, how many big, the only thing, you traded for Jimmy Butler. I mean, you got Jimmy and LeBron, LeBron, but LeBron ended up being a trade. He did him a solid. They didn't get KD. Right. They didn't get no big, other free agents.
45:59Shannon Sharpe:So why you over there huffing the puppet talking about coming to Miami? Where, when, who? Let me, let me finish. Let me finish. There was a time when nobody wanted to come to Cincinnati. You know that? They still don't. Nobody have a problem. What big time free agents y 'all got? All of them want to come. I said they want to come. The timing hasn't been right for them. You say they want to come. Who? And I'm not an owl. I don't sit on no tree. I can't turn my head all the way around. But who? Listen to me. The big free agents that have been available, you listen to me, that's where they wanted to go.
46:36They just didn't say anything publicly. Why did they go? in their favor. I just told you it didn't work out in their favor. Why? Money.
46:43Shannon Sharpe:So you, so in other words, they want to go to Cincinnati knowing they're not going to get paid. Knowing Mike Brown has been cheap. Knowing the Bengals have been cheap their entire existence. Really? I'm just telling you. Now listen, who's the owner in New Orleans? Ms. Gail Benson. Ms. Gail Benson. The husband died. New Orleans Saints? still? Oh, man, that's your girl. You for real? Man, I got to talk to Ms. Benson. I got to talk to Ms. Benson because listen, what I saw in New Orleans, there's no reason why two things can't coexist. The Pelicans having a winning mentality and it all starts at the top to go along with the goddamn city that is winning itself.
47:31I know what the hell I saw the past week I was out there. I told you, I'm from the seventh world. I'm from Uptown now. I'm from Uptown. Matter of fact, you want to go with me in March? For what?
47:44Shannon Sharpe:Uptown Super Sunday. Let me ask you a question, Ocho. How many big-time free agents signed with Atlanta? You was in Atlanta. Nice. That's a place to be. How many big-time free basketball free agents signed there? They don't have a winning environment. They have a winning city, though. The aesthetics are very pleasing outside of the arena. I can tell you that. I don't go there often. I'm just telling you what somebody told me. I ain't telling you what I know. I'm telling you what I heard. Atlanta's a beautiful place, huh? The man. So is Houston. What is Houston? What do you consider Houston? Yeah, I like Houston.
48:25Okay, I know you like Houston. I'm talking about the environment.
48:27Shannon Sharpe:They're young. They're up and coming. I love what I may have doing with that team. Sungoon was an all-star I like Jalen Green I mean the guy is 20 what 22 years of age balling out they got I'm in Thompson they got a nice young squad they got a nice young squad probably need one more a veteran you know Van Fleet I like Van Fleet I like Brooks they get out there they play hard night in and night out They had a little rough patch where they lost about five or six games in a row. But you can deal with that. I think they're going to be just like the Texans. The Texans are going to be a place that you've got a quarterback.
49:11Shannon Sharpe:You've got Nico Collins. You've got D 'Amico Ryan, who has a great defense. You see they've got Danelle Hunter. They've got Will Anderson, Jr. They've got Stingley, Jr. They've got some nice pieces. They've got some nice pieces. They're a few players away. They were able to lure Laramie Tunsil. The problem that they had is that Bill O 'Brien ruined it when he traded a damn running back for an all-pro wide receiver. Where the hell they do that at? Right. I never understood that. And then you had the situation with Deshaun. You had a situation with Deshaun. And we don't need to get into it. But we know what happened.
49:48Shannon Sharpe:And that kind of set them back for a year or two. But they were able to get CJ. CJ looks to be what he's supposed to be. Had a little down year this year. but I expect them to bounce back and play better next year. We'll see what they do. They lost a lot of their receivers. Tank Dale got injured. Stephon Diggs got injured. But I love the addition of Joe Mixon. They're a couple of pieces away. They're going to be right back in the mix. Boost Mobile is now legit nationwide 5G network. So I have to take a break from all the jokes here for just a second and put my serious voice on because I would never ever joke about a 5G network that has invested billions in building 5G towers across the country.
50:30Shannon Sharpe:Not even once. Not even if Mr. Boost Mobile himself asked me to. There's nothing funny about it. Boost Mobile is now a legit nationwide 5G network and also provides coverage across 99 % of America. Seriously. Visit BoostMobile.com or your nearest Boost Mobile store location to learn more. Boost Mobile network together with our roaming partners covers 99 % of the U.S. population. 5G speed not available in all areas. But I think that's the thing. Listen, Brandon Ingram did not make this decision, didn't take this decision lightly. It wasn't no, oh, man, okay, fine. He had been sitting there for an extended period of time, and he realized it.
51:10He said, first of all, the guy that y 'all want to build this thing around,
51:14Shannon Sharpe:he can't stay healthy. Now, for the most part, Brandon Ingram hadn't stayed healthy either. So let's be all the way with that. So he, I mean, I understand he's looking at Zion, and Zion can't stay healthy. but Brandon Ingram missed a lot of time also. And Pelican fans, y 'all know that. So it was like, man, let me go ahead and bounce. You're like, I go to a team, you know, they got Scottie Barnes. I like Scottie. They got that. I mean, look, I hate calling the man last name, but. How you leave 40 million on the table? Come on now. What are we doing? look oh see the mistake that I made a lot of times is that I put myself in that situation you can't put yourself in that situation you wouldn't have but oh money can't buy happiness the man ain't happy listen money can't buy you happiness but you know what money can't buy you it can buy you time it can buy you time he had all the time he wanted to spend in there boy Hey, look at what you call it.
52:25Look at, what's the guy's name?
52:30Shannon Sharpe:Look at Melinda Gates. Bill Gates worth$200 billion. $200 billion. She said, I'm gone. Bezos, I'm gone. But you say money can buy happiness. I don't even like the fact that you - I'm just saying. Listen, the fact that we have billionaires in this world, the fact that we have billionaires in this world, and one of the things with little girls growing up, they're taught you got to find someone that's able to provide and provide you with stability. If Bill Gates and a few other billionaires that I named not too long ago on one of the shows have not been able to keep a woman happy long term they just haven't.
53:09Shannon Sharpe:At the end of the day Ocho. What chance do us normal folks have? You got to be happy. Ocho you make it seem like it's only the women. Men get divorced too. Men leave relationships. I ain't never seen don't do that when's the last time you seen a man initiate a divorce I ain't seen it in a very long time more times than not it is the woman initiating but it's the woman that's also getting fed up with something so it's not something that she women don't haphazardly do things women are very methodical they're very thoughtful they're not just rushing out see a guy see a guy will leave a great woman for a fine thing.
53:58Shannon Sharpe:That is how women think. Women don't think like that. Women are very methodical. Women are very meticulous. When a woman leaves a man and they've been in a relationship for an extended period of time, she's had it up to here. Now you notice I said here. Because when she had it up to here, she stayed. When she get to here... Right. Also, what you need to understand, too, Uncle, you got to think about this. When a woman is fed up, before she gets to here and she's right here, all her checks and ducks got to be in a row. All her I's got to be dotted and all her T's got to be crossed before she gets to here so she can exit.
54:39The plan has to be played out completely. She can't leave until she knows exactly what plan B is and they're going to execute itself. Because you can't leave and they'll be dead in the water. which is why when you talk when you talk when we talk about billionaires and their wives in marriage and divorce you notice they always take half with them right yeah i mean a lot of
54:57Shannon Sharpe:times they're like look look here i ain't taking half because because neither one of them had prenups so theoretically they could have got a big old chunk they could have got more than what they got now 40 50 billion there ain't nothing to laugh at yeah but i think the thing is a lot of times when women women already see women will already told you what they're unhappy about and you know fix it we don't we don't we ain't listening and they're like man i don't know what happened well she kind of told you and she dropped breadcrumbs not only did she tell you she dropped breadcrumbs that made a loaf but you didn't hear it oh over time you made the loaf over time whatever you're chasing flex your next with new on plus 12 milligram nicotine pouches Crushing that big Prezzo?
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