Unc & Ocho's Most Fiery Debates Part 2: JACKASS Crew Messing with Jamie Foxx?! + Tetairoa McMillan admitting he doesn’t watch football

20:39Shannon Sharpe:Ash fell or flipped over Broke a femur, fractured a rib, broke a wrist. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What? Yeah. Serious? What she ran into? She flipped over on herself. Oh, Ashley, she ain't never rode before, huh? Huh? Yeah. Her whole life. Bruh, Ash grew up on a farm. I'm talking about a ranch. No, no, let me take it back. A ranch. Right, right, right. 10 ,000 acres. 15 ,000 acre ranch. She's like, no, you call it a farm. Ash Bob had, how many, what? 5 ,000 head of cattle? 10 ,000 head of cattle. Is that a big enough ranch for her? Bro, 10 ,000? Yeah. Jesus. No, Ash. But look, Ash don't really count.

21:36Shannon Sharpe:I don't like to put her in anything because Ash clumsy. Right. she throw her back out getting up out of a chair it's 85 degrees and she got pneumonia so Ash is an outlier for anything that could possibly happen so you know what Ocho I'm sorry I brought Ash into this Ash don't count but these other people do count yeah oh man that was a good one but man I just couldn't I just couldn't. I quit. Hey, I used to love basketball, man. Yeah. I love basketball. Yes, sir. I got this money. Man, I ain't been a chance this one. You got your money and you stopped doing what you love. No, I didn't love it.

22:25Shannon Sharpe:No. Because basketball wasn't going to keep a roof over Mary Porter's head. It wasn't going to take care of the kids. Now, you tell me the NBA players, they don't be out there playing football. No, but they think - They still play basketball in the offseason. That's their craft, Ocho. You work on your routes. Can I finish? Yes. You know what basketball players also do in the offseason? They get their ass on ATVs. They get on jet skis. They go have fun on yachts. They travel. They do all those things. Now, your mindset is a little bit different. It always has been because the structure and discipline and you always remembering what pays the bills.

23:05Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, for sure. you know everybody doesn't think like that that's why in certain situations especially like this you're very passionate because if it was you in that position i'm not doing that i'm not taking that chance but you know michael jordan he he has actually used to have a motorcycle uh club he had a motorcycle he had he used to race uh well he had a team a motorcycle yeah yeah yeah um and he used to ride hard. He had a crotch rocket. So, I mean, he was zipping through this. But he also had that he could play pickup basketball because he had it written into his contract for the love of the game clause.

23:47Shannon Sharpe:So he could play pickup basketball. At that time, not a whole lot of guys had it. But I just look, if he gonna ride it, I would just put a helmet on. I would rather be safe than sorry. Yes, sir. I just better be safe to sorry. That's why I got off that, you know, you and I was talking about road bikes. Yeah. I always wore a helmet. Then I just, man, every time I turn around, somebody had got their ass rad over and then nobody stopped to help them. I said, man, let me get my ass off this bike. You remember Jay Williams? The Duke? Jay Williams. Yeah. Lost his career. Motorcycle. Yeah. The Duke. The number two pick in the draft.

24:32Shannon Sharpe:Oh, oh. Okay, okay, okay. ESPN. Yep. Motorcycle. Ah. Our teammate got killed. Roderick Thomas, he got killed on a motorcycle. I just love. My grandfather, they play that. And so once I got big enough, old enough, he said, boy, they call it asphalt. It's your ass and it's your fault.

25:03Shannon Sharpe:I ain't never want one. I ain't never want one. I can honestly say I've never ever wanted a motorcycle. Yeah. I didn't do motorcycles, but man, down here, dirt bikes and them four wheelers, and we ride in the middle of the street. It just - Oh yeah. They got a motorcycle - Hey, New York, Philly, and Miami. New York, Philly, and Miami, when they come to the dirt bikes. Yeah. And them Yamaha bands. Oh, I see. I saw Meek out there. It's like that. Every day once in a while, you catch them in Atlanta, and they be by 50 or 100 deep. Wait, Atlanta too? Yeah, they got a motorcycle club. Oh, I ain't know that.

25:42I ain't know that. Yeah. And they go, and they go, and the thing is, you need it because all that noise, and then

25:51Shannon Sharpe:you can control the traffic. Right. Because once you get behind them, you can't go nowhere. No. Because they take it up all lanes in a row. And it's like 40 of them. Yeah. But I think that's the, you know, that's the best way to ride. Is to, you know, to make sure you can protect yourself. But nah, hell nah. Quiet confidence. It's not what you see. It's what you feel. A suit tailored just for you. A perfectly timed guy's trip. Choosing On Plus nicotine pouches over rough corners and edges. Because some things may look better, but the other things simply feel better. On Plus nicotine pouches with Niko Silk Mesh.

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28:44Shannon Sharpe:Arizona wide receiver. How you say that name? Ketaroa McMillan? Ocho says he doesn't watch football and doesn't like watching game film. I don't like watching game film either. I don't ever watch it by myself because we go over film as a receiver group. Ocho, is this a big deal or no? You know, I don't think it's a big deal because... Oh, Lord, have mercy, Ocho. You asked me a question, right? Yeah. Okay, you asked me, is it a big deal? I don't think it's a big deal. What does he do once you turn the film on? Him, specifically, from an individual standpoint. So watching film is not a big deal?

29:29Answer what I just said. When you turn the film on and it's time for him to play, what does he do on the field? Regardless of him not watching film. Does he show up and play? Is he productive at what he does?

29:41Shannon Sharpe:Okay. I'm asking you. I know a guy had that same thing. Jamarcus Russell. How did that work out for him? I don't know. I don't know about Jamarcus Russell. You do know about Jamarcus Russell. He was the first number one overall pick. We not talk about Jamarcus Russell. We talk about him. This Ocho. So this man ain't got to watch no film. Yeah, he got to watch film. You asked me, is it a big deal? I said, no, it's not a big deal. If you produce him, you get your ass on the field. how you gonna get mad at my goddamn answer because you're saying stuff Ocho you said watching film for a receiver is not a big deal oh he says he doesn't watch it by himself but he watches it collectively as a group you know in order to be great you gotta watch it on your own so just watch it just so just so just watching it as a group at the team thing that's good enough I just want to make sure I get clarification.

30:35Shannon Sharpe:Listen, that's him. I know what I did. Ocho, that's why we're asking you. You were the pro bowler. You're saying it's not a big deal. Can I, hold on, hold on. Let me ask you something real quick. So watching the film by yourself, right? Yes. Stay with me real quick. Stay with me. Yes. You know what you're looking at. You're looking at DBs, looking at defense. Yes, I'm watching the technique outside. Do they freeze technique? Do they press bail? What do they do outside? inside yes i'm watching all that yes all that good stuff now that's that's now me you on the same page right let's say he doesn't watch it as an individual but he watches that a group he watches it as a group once he gets to the next level and he gets out and does what he's supposed to do without watching it individually is it still a bad thing he's still productive is it still a bad thing i don't believe i mean personally oh you don't think he can get it done because he doesn't watch film by himself no no no no there have been guys that watch film and can't get it done i just in order i'm not saying that but what i'm saying but i'm saying is the intricacies of what you're watching that guy does right certain down and distance because everybody so because i've got to watch a guy that he might play such and such different than what he plays me yes i need to know it down the distance area of the field how that guy's gonna play because he's going to play, hey, is he going to play the sticks?

31:59Shannon Sharpe:Does he press bail? Is he cluing? I need to know all that. If I'm not watching tape, it's just hard for me. Now, he could. He could be that immensely talented that you say, you know what? I'm just going to show up. But I don't know. I haven't heard any receivers that's worth anything that says, nah, you know, I'm good. Because you've got to do it on your own. You've got to. have to and when I think about it now I'm only speaking because when he said he says he didn't say he didn't watch it at all he said he watched it as a group now that's one thing now him not doing it individually I mean that's on him but he was very productive in what he did and when you turn on the film he said I don't ever need to watch it by myself this is what he said I don't like watching film either I don't ever need to watch film by myself because we go over it, film, as a receiver group.

32:56Shannon Sharpe:Group, collectively, yeah, see? Yeah, that's different. My reason for watching film individually is I had no choice. Despite the entertainment, the jokes, and the laughs, and the celebrations, I was a student of the game. I studied film just like the quarterback. You wanted to be good, Ocho. Right. You wanted to be great. Oh, great, okay. And you realized that's what it took in order to be great. You realize that just your God-given ability wasn't going to be enough. Now, that might have gotten you to that point. Yes, sir. So what's going to take me to the next level? Next level. With every other receiver is just as talented as I.

33:34Shannon Sharpe:Yes, sir. You're right. You're right. And listen. But Ojo, a better point, everything that's thought doesn't need to be said out loud. Oh, okay. Some things you just keep to yourself. He'll learn it, though. Now, I want you to tell me what you think them 32 NFL teams thinking. Mm-hmm. You right. That's what I don't get, Ocho. I don't get because you know how teams feel. Remember what they put. If it wasn't a big deal, why did they put that clause in Kyler Murray's contract? Kyler Murray's contract. Oh, about gaming? Yeah. Why would you ever say this publicly when you're about to get, Ocho, somebody's about to get, you going on a job interview and you tell the people, I don't really like coming on time.

34:21Shannon Sharpe:why would you ever tell the people that's interviewing you for a job that get the job first first yeah and then let them figure out that you don't like to bring your ass to work on time yeah i'm not gonna tell you hey yeah you're right but one a one thing one thing by young bull you know they they they uh they interviewed him for a reason they talking to him for a reason if you watch him if you watch him on film you watch him on tape oh he gonna get drafted somewhere now the issues and some of the things he already said oh they gonna fix that They didn't have a problem. Because once you get drafted, wherever you go, they're going to teach you and let you know, in order to be great, in order to make this 53-man roster, you're going to have to be watching film.

35:03You're going to have to. Because there's a whole different ballgame of one percenters once you do make it. The things you were able to get away with in college, you won't be able to get away with it at the next level. You won't be able to. And one of the edges that you need is up here upstairs.

35:19Shannon Sharpe:Yes. Up here. Because you need to know what the DB is thinking about doing before he does. Yeah. So, oh, bro, I know this down the distance. I done seen you too many times. I know what's coming. You can play this technique. Yep. I already know what you're going to do. This is what you always do. Yeah. And there are articles being circulated now that now predict him to fall in the draft because of this interview and 15 seconds of comments. Ocho, Ocho, you three weeks, the draft is what? a little less than a month away. Right. Ocho, why would you ever say this? Yeah, listen, I don't know. It's something I would have kept to myself.

35:57Yes! Obviously, I wouldn't have said anything like that, but I'm also someone that loves watching film. I love it. I just love it. I love watching DBs. I love watching the safety and seeing what they're doing based on down and distance. So I had no choice, Ocho. I talk too much shit not to watch film. I got to know what's coming before it come. I got to. That's the edge I needed. I wasn't physically imposing, you know. So my one edge was I got to be able to beat you up here before I beat you anywhere else.

36:30Shannon Sharpe:You're absolutely right. I got to be able to beat you up here. And I'm not even viewed as one of those type of players that was a student in the game. I'm viewed as just entertainment and fun. Man, you understand the work I had to put in throughout the week to be able to pull off the stuff I was pulling off. The guys are too good. Man, stop playing. The guys are too good, Ocho. Way too good. The guys are too good. Because you got to, and I want to tell people, everybody at some point in time was an All-State, All-Conference, All-American, All-This, All-That. What's going to set you apart? Now, I'm just saying, Ocho, just because you were All-This, All-That, that doesn't mean you're going to be great in the NFL.

37:09Shannon Sharpe:Just because you study film doesn't mean you're going to be great in the NFL. but I needed every, you need every advantage that you possibly can get because this is a game of inches in it. You being open, like you was open in college. That ish ain't going to happen. Unless it, unless it, unless it's a, unless it's a busted coverage. It ain't happening. Yes. Yes. So this notion that, you know what? Hey, I'm so gifted. And you know what? A lot of the DBs that you probably went against. Yeah. They might not be playing on Sunday. On Sunday. But the guys you're about to go against, all of them going to play on Sunday.

37:48Shannon Sharpe:Every last one of them. I'm just a firm believer, Ocho, especially, and you know how this, let me ask you a question. Those 32 general managers, those head coaches, I want you to tell the people at home what you think they're thinking. Forget what me and you think is a big deal. Do you think general managers and coaches, do you think they think it's a big deal? Yeah, you know they think it's a big deal because they want you to do everything right. They want you to do everything right. All the things necessary as far as preparation and being ready, not just for game day, but just for practice. How well do you know your opponent?

38:26There's only one way to do that. That's through film study. But again, you know what happened? I think he's going to be a gem. Wherever he fall to, it's going to be a gem. And if anything, if he does fall in the draft or maybe something like this, if he does fall in the draft, there might be a team. I hope he falls us because we can use him.

38:49But, you know, at the end of the day, it's something I wouldn't have said. It's something you wouldn't have said. You live and you learn. Hell no! You live and you learn. And he'll become a little bit more media savvy with the way he conducts himself when it comes to answering questions.

39:04Shannon Sharpe:I don't get why you would ever put something that was going to, in every stretch of the imagination, that's like a defensive offensive lineman saying I don't like lifting weights. How? Fool them.

39:21Shannon Sharpe:These kids just like say anything and what has happened is that in today's society, oh, people want to be themselves and then get paid on somebody else's job. How did that work, Ocho? you hear people all the time why i can't be me because that's not your job you not paying you when you work for your own self me if i want to show up late i'll show you i could i own the company but how's that gonna look right you have to set the example i have a level of expectation be on time i don't have a whole lot of rules right just be on time that's really the only rule that I have. Oh, I got a great one too, let me think about this now.

40:05If I'm not mistaken, after Patrick Mahomes' second year, was it the second year he said he didn't watch film? No. He was still great? He said he didn't understand what he was looking at. What he was looking at? Okay. Yeah. Hey, wait, that's the same goddamn thing. You watching it, but don't understand what the hell you watching, but you still going out there cutting the food?

40:26Shannon Sharpe:It wasn't until like, because he was, at first year, he didn't start. Right. It wasn't until he got with somebody that understood and says, okay, look at this. Yeah. This is going to be your keys. Because a lot of times, oh, tell me, I went to an HBCU. I ain't no A. We ain't watch no film. I ain't going to lie. Right. Watch no film. Because in black college, that's why if you get a corner out of black college, that's why they used to go to black college and get them. Because what could they play? Man coverage. It wasn't no cover two. Right. It wasn't none of that stuff. It was man. Lock up. Oh, man.

41:02Shannon Sharpe:Lock up. Yeah. Yes. So me, I was beating man coverage. So Ocho, they go out there and run a zone. Hell, I'm booking it. No, no, son. No, no, son. Stop. Oh, man. He ain't got me. That's funny. Then I started. Now, all of a sudden, Ocho, I'm like, oh, man, I like this. Oh, this is cheating. You give me the answer to the test. Right. I know you're going to run a couple of coverages that you haven't shown me. But for the most part, you're going to be true to who you are. Always. I mean, every once in a while, I was just watching a deer on IG with eating a rabbit. A deer? Yeah. Deers don't even eat rabbits.

41:50Shannon Sharpe:See, every once in a while, he show you something you hadn't seen before. So I'm saying every once in a while, Lord Cho, you're going to show me a coverage I ain't seen before. Right. That might have been AI you was watching too. No, that wasn't AI. Hey, hey, animal get hungry enough just like you. You get hungry enough, you eat whatever. I eat whatever when I'm not hungry, but go ahead. We already know you eat whatever.

42:20Shannon Sharpe:But I just say, Chad, it's just me. I just don't understand why you would ever say that publicly. Everything that you think, people can think a thought is not a crime. A thought is not anything bad. It's the act. It's the once you say it. Why would you say that publicly and you're less than a month away from the draft? So what do you think the people that's drafting you and looking to put millions of dollars in your pocket?

42:50Shannon Sharpe:Nah, man. I can't. that's just like hey there are some oh there's some people that's naturally gifted that you know didn't have to study for tests and they were they were good at it yeah but guess what them numbers of them words on the page ain't moving when them guys try to put their hand around your neck and choke your ass out now you know now you know he's gonna get tested now you because first of all he's a first round pick we got to test you regardless oh yeah because i got to see what's all the hype about i need to see why you why you a first round pick i need to see absolutely i got to see whatever you come in with your resume heisman belitnikoff thorpe nagurski outland i don't know what you want but if you got one of them awards, if you a first round pick, you a high draft pick, let me see what they talking about, man.

43:51Oh,

43:51Shannon Sharpe:we're going to put you to the test. you know that every time we, we're going to put it to this, especially when everybody come together. Is it a mini camp? No, OTAs. OTAs. Yeah. Yeah. OTAs. Cause you know, they, they're going to have the draft. So probably like the first week in May. Yeah. You got rookie. It might be just all rookies. It might just be a rookie. Yeah. It's always rookie, rookie camp first. You know, that rookie and first year players, not the, draft pick, but the guys that, you know, guys that were on the practice squad, because you know there are a couple of guys that were on the practice squad, that need to get a whole lot of playing time.

44:21Shannon Sharpe:Those would be the guys that are required to be in. All the draft picks, the undrafted free agents that they brought in, they're going to bring some undrafted players in to take a look at them and see what they got going on and see if they could potentially be camp bodies or could possibly make a squad. Right.

44:39Shannon Sharpe:But I don't know why he said that, bro. Yeah. damn but bro I wish you the best I can't do nothing but wish you the best if that's your MO and it's gotten you that far hey listen it's gotten you this far it's going to change though he'll understand that they'll explain that to him and I don't think it will really I don't think it will hurt in draft stock because if they want him bad if they want him bad enough and there's a spot for him based on what they've seen on film during his collegiate career they'll get him in there and fix the situation now if you come in here you're not going to do this this is what you're not going to do when you come here your best players are your hardest workers that's when you get a Michael Jordan you get a Kobe, you get a LeBron you get a Brady you get a Peyton Manning, you get an Adrian Peterson, you get a Ray Lewis that's what you get you get a Jamar Chase that's what you get guys that are immensely talented work extremely hard, go the extra mile to be great because it's just not good enough.

45:47Shannon Sharpe:I don't want to be good. I want to be great. I'm trying to be transcendent and historically great. Because when I'm done, I want you to talk about me. When I'm done, I want you to say, this guy, you know what this guy reminds me of? He reminds me of Jamar Chase. This guy reminds me of Ray Lewis. This guy reminds me of Lawrence Taylor or Reggie White or Tom Brady well that's what you want let me say some guys hey i played in nfl five six seven years i played 10 years good made me a nice salary got a boo i did what i wanted to do it all depends on the individual what do you want your legacy to be in a given sport i mean something also you know some people just like anything some people find a being on the job collecting the check that's it I'm going to work in the same position I don't want to move up because more responsibility come when you move up I like this right here I come in put my 8-9 hours in go home nah hell nah that ain't me

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