1900Rugrat on Being Florida White Trash, Blowing Up, Skrilla, Kodak Black & More

26:28I ain't even gonna say too much about this, ain't no name or none of that. I'm getting sued by their ass right now You feel me like shit crazy Yeah cause I mean you ever read about how Everybody who wins the lottery it ends up basically Destroying their life okay rapping Is different because rapping everybody Thinks that you won the lottery But in reality you're Working your ass off to keep your head afloat Because they see you with millions of views They think you got millions of dollars they don't know that you're also Investing like crazy back into your Career and it's a shit load of work I've shot like five videos out of pocket that will never touch the light of day.

27:02Oh really? God, I spent thousands of dollars for no reason. I don't even understand. It's crazy. Bruh. All right, what's the thought process behind that? Why the video's not dropping? It'd be something where you like, I don't like that creatively. So like, I'm like, I'm a real like, all over the place artist. So I got like all types of flows and it's just some like shit that I be doing. Like I got like melodic shit with like real catchy hooks with like heavy auto-tune on some like Chief Keef shit. Like, and goddamn, they just don't be wanting me to drop that shit because it's not like my, the shit that already make money.

27:39You know what I'm saying? Some more select labels in your ear or like they're not. Pretty much. But it's like, I agree with it to an extent. Like, you can look at artists, like, I ain't going to say no names because I fuck with everybody, but I don't want nobody to feel like I'm talking shit. But you can see artists that like try to switch up their flow right after they blew up and it just don't go right. But then you see ones that do go right. Like, look at Bre 3. I was just telling her this last night. We in the 300 recording camp. Bro, she went from the, it's B3 rats, B3 rats, B3 stats, to the melodic shit, to the little Chief Keef flow.

28:13And, like, both of those songs went stupid viral. Then the second one went more viral than the first one. But with other people, it don't be working. I don't want to say no name. But it's a lot of people you can see that, like, try to switch their flow up. Oh, yeah. It fucked them up bad. Many names come to mind. 19, like, to be honest, bro, he got the creative control to, you know, really do what he wants to do. Like, they just be giving me advice. He's the artist. Study and play. Come together on a Windows 11 PC. And for a limited time, college students get the best of both worlds. Get the Unreal College Deal.

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29:29The tape I just dropped, I'm like, bro, I've made like 200 songs since I like... Right. So we just try to get the fans a story, like a storyline, build that up, get that over with and start over. As far as the creative process, besides outside making the music, you might make the music, who are you going to check on the songs? Like, all right, what you think? This a good song? This not a good song? That's a good ass question. You know, it's wild. Like, I could FaceTime, bro, right now. I got, like, a supporter who, like, damn near my dog now. He had DM'd me, like, on some hatin' shit. Not on some hatin' shit, but just, like, on some, like.

30:04Holding you accountable. Yeah, like, he was like, this shit ass, bro. Like, it's not you, bro. And I'm like, bitch. I replied back. I forget what the fuck I said. But he, like, he like me, bro. Like, he ain't really autistic, but we got a little bit of the tism. You feel me? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The tism is crazy. So he up there with the music though. He's like a 35 year old white man, bro. Oh, shit. But he on it though. I thought he was the police at first, but he cool as fuck on God. Literally like, I be sending him my whole vault because I know he not going to sell it on some weird shit. And then I be, I used to send it to all my brothers.

30:42I got them. I had locked that bit at a point in time. Now I don't send it to everybody. And then I be like, my old lady got my shit. feel me like and yeah I'd be like bro I'd be in this through like 20 deep just me and a bunch of hoes bro like and then maybe like a producer my engineer and that's it but the girls don't get in the way of the creativity it doesn't slow you down too much I love that shit I love just like zoning out getting them a bottle of Don and like a bunch of tacos letting them do their thing and then like A bunch of tacos. It's just like the energy. I love it. It's like the energy.

31:15And like, I don't know, it made me feel like I got to go harder because it's more pressure when it's a bunch of people in the room. You feel me? Like when I'm by myself, that's when I do like the experimental, like crazy shit. But then when I'm like with a bunch of people, I wrap my ass off. Why tacos? Because talking tacos in Miami, if y 'all know, that shit is so good, bro. Talking tacos. We got to hit that up. Bro, go. He said go. I ate five in the morning, all hours. That shit's swinging. You ever been to BurgerFi? Hell yeah. What? I just went there. BurgerFi is the big crap. You liked it?

31:50I was not so friendly to it. I worked at BurgerFi. Me and my brother had a job at BurgerFi. I was in the front, so you had cashier and making shakes, and my brother was in the back making the burgers. Hell yeah. No, because we were in Fort Lauderdale, and that's the first place we went to get some food, and everybody in there was with us, was like, Adam, how you doing and shit, but nobody was tripping too hard. Burger 5 was very low key, very respectable. Yeah, for sure. They don't got no good. I just thought about that. I don't think they got no real good burger spot down south, bro. I mean, I like Five Guys.

32:21Oh, yeah, that's a national chain. I'm saying some shit that's really just in Florida. We don't got no good burger. Facts. That's a good point. Was it intentional? Because when I was watching your career kind of really start to unfold, was it intentional that you decided that you wanted to do a lot of features? because I feel like you kind of intentionally, like in particular the BOP kosher feature and the Skrilla feature, and I was like, damn, like he did the right thing in the sense that you got on tracks with these guys and just completely sounded like you were on their level, like really made hits that I could imagine that large percentages of their fan bases became fans of yours after that.

33:00No, I appreciate that too, actually. Like no bullshit. But goddamn Kosher, like that Kosher, Georgiana, and Skrilla was like three people that all they fan bases was telling me that I need to cook with them. And then like Georgiana was getting comments for the cook with me. And then same with Kosher, you know, the white thing. The white thing. The Florida thing. Yeah, yeah. And then goddamn, I was talking to Georgiana yesterday, cause she had a video on live. They was like, are you from Florida? She was like, I ain't from Florida. Florida, I was like, what's your problem with Florida? Did you think that?

33:34Nah, she from Indiana, but people, you thinking that she from Florida? I think I assumed as well. Probably cause of the golds. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Speaking of golds, nigga, you from Florida. Why you ain't got golds? You know, news. I did. You did, you took them out. Oh yeah, you did, right? I wanted to go VV just cause like, I don't know, I might go back gold, but I just wanted to go diamond, just cause like, it's like, it's still up. You switching it up though for Florida now, niggas, cause like, everybody know. I ain't gonna lie, you know how they say like, If you don't go permanent, you're not really from Florida.

33:58I don't got no f***ing perms. My shit just look permanent. I think I even seen Lil Tyler say he regret going perms. Everybody be saying that. That's why I don't do it. I have perms. I don't regret it. But I just feel like you do upgrade and you want to change certain things. With the perm, you kind of stuck with what you got. Facts. My brother told me not to get that shit. He was like, go pull out, bro. You don't want to do that. Only because the pain. And if you're not rocking with the perms for a long period of time, like I had mine for damn near four years. If you ain't rocking out, some people got their parents in Florida for 10.

34:28And to keep your shit healthy, bro, like Drew get his shit popped out every year. Oh, really? Every six months, get it clean. Oh, really? Get a cement in the back. That shit hurt. That's what, if you got money, you do shit like that shit cost damn damn seven bands a trip. Really? Just to come back shit out with him. You guys are Drew Justin Bieber. Drew get money, though, man. With the Skrilla one, I did that because our fan bases was on it because one take is like a Philly Skrilla type beat. You feel me? I really wanted, at first I was finna get him on the remix, but then Cudd came with the Kodak idea, cause on the song I was like, I'm already white, I don't need no white hoe.

35:02That was me paying homage to Yacht when he was like, I'm already black, don't need no black bitch. That's why on his verse he was talking about that. He was like, I admit I said a lot of dumb ass shit when I was a youngin'. Oh God. But yeah, when that Skrilla shit happened, when that auntie ain't playing, that shit went stupid. We ain't gonna lie, Kanye, we ain't even get that shit clear through Kanye, we got that shit clear through like the old sample, that Kanye sample. Oh, shit. That's hard. What was it like being up there in Kensington, though? That's like a whole different breed of street creatures up there.

35:30Anyway, that's the first time I popped a 30. Because, like, you know, I used to be on Erksbad, like, around that time. But I was, like, only popping 10s and shit. That's the first time I popped a 30. I don't even remember how it was in Kensington. It just made you want to pop a 30 in an environment. Everybody was on it. It was cold, too, right? I was on Erksbad, and they ain't have no 10s. I think it was freezing, too, that day. It was freezing cold. and all I had was that vape jacket and some skinny jeans. I mean, the 30 feels like more. I got so fried, I lost a jacket. I ain't never seen that jacket since that night.

35:58That's a bar. I got so fried, I lost my jacket. Is it just me or does the 30 feel crazier than 310s? I think that 30 got far. Yeah. There's something different in that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That 30, not 310s, bro. Brick Baby gave me a 30. I never did it since. I don't know why people say that. They try to say that's like the same thing. No, it's not. A 30 and 310s is two different things. Two different things. Yeah, yeah. Hey, I know Box, Boxiat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out Box. I seen you on Box, y 'all did, yeah. I love Box to death. I done flame, man. Man, cuz me and Box be fried, bruh. Yeah, now, Box be doing this shit.

36:32I love Box, bruh. Shout out my word, Box, man. But yeah, that like, bruh, them 30s, bruh, like, bruh, you could do any drug and be straight. You do a 30, you gon' be in the middle, like, eh. Matter of fact, hey, how you meet Box anyway? Because I've been seeing y 'all rotate loosely. I got, hey, shout out Box, bruh, y 'all gotta see that belt. Yeah, I seen him with the BB Simon and shit. With the chrome hat. He got the shades with it too. Like he did a collab with BB for Complex Con. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, can I put a vote to say 19 be the flyest artist out? Fly a crack in the world. I'm fresher than for real.

37:03Past the crack, I think he the flyest. And I'm all the man be popping out. We need to hear some other options as well, but yeah. I'll get it. I'll leave it a comment. I know some people are going to take issue with that. Okay, so it's like between me, Timothée Chalamet, and Justin Timberlake. Bro, is Adam on that list though? Is Adam on that list or no? It's a fly list, fly. Wait, white boy list? Yes. Oh. He said you, Timothée Chalamet, Justin. You said Justin Bieber. I know you BMX, you skate too? Nah. Nah, I can't skate for shit, but I used to like try to. Yeah. I'm ass, but I love skating. Damn, okay, yeah.

37:41that's uh nah I wish I was a skate fish. I tried to BMX before I tried to drop into like a six it was like a six foot with a coping uh-huh bro I fell right on my chest man. You want to get in the game I know some BMX brands out there that I'm sure. Bro I do that shit no bullshit. Oh hell yeah. I just gotta somebody gotta teach me so I don't do that shit again I fell right over the handlebars. You can't be on no perch I don't do that man. I was sober at the time though I was like this was like when I was like probably like 12 13 I tried to get on the bikes but I I was sober. I didn't get on it.

38:12Because I got on Zan's bad first before I ever did first. When you started doing it, what's your drug of choice usually for when you're in the studio? When I'm in the booth, nowadays, I'll be real. I'm trying to quit that shit. You feel me? I was on X pretty bad, and I got off of that shit, quit it. And then the drink, the drinks are all the shake, bro. Don't ever do no X. Don't ever do no drink. Don't do no drugs, period. But certain drugs feel so good. It's meant to make you feel good. It's literally, you look up, what does X do? Makes you feel good. Like literally, euphoric effect that's just making you feel good.

38:48So it's like - But you don't feel like you get gnarly hangovers from the X? I used to, I used to wake up. This is my thing, like, I calm down to come down with the drink, and then I wake up, probably a little angry from the drink, and then just like shake back, eat a little meal, drink some good amount of water, pot that X. Literally, I was just like, everyday, like just rolling. A lot of people honestly, a lot of rappers we interviewed over the years, just like yeah I do it every day. But it was like, just to like, I don't know, it make you feel like you need that shit to like not think about a bunch of bullshit.

39:22You know what I'm saying? Which you don't for real. You don't at all, it's just a drug trick. It make you think you need that shit to make good music. You'll be like oh I made the best music off of the Perkz or off of the, no. So you're not taking it for the music, you was taking it to cope with the shit? I was really like yeah pretty much. like i just like like i ain't never did no drugs with the intention of like oh i'm gonna do this to make this song like i was always doing that just because like like i cut commercial bro i get stressed out by the end of the day something gonna stress me the out and it was like that for like some months after i blew up it's got so much i was straight for the first few months and then like i was like stressing trying to like get another hit you know what i'm saying like i'm trying to like get it get something bigger than one tape like like that's how like i think i don't want to sustain my what i got i want to grow you know what i'm saying so i'd be overly stressed out because i'm scared to go back broke you feel me like no literally though like so it's like it's like i got that going on and then it's like i be dolo most of the time because my family situation is so it's like so the reason i don't i be trying to just float is because i don't be want to think about all that shit.

40:30And when I do that, and that shit will fuck up my mental to where I won't want to talk to nobody. I'll just get in the booth and, uh, uh, when I get off the X, I'm networking like shit. Yeah, yeah. Like shit. Like, bro. Just not to talk too much about it, but you said your family situation fucked up. Can you give us like a little insight? Like what you mean by that? Like, when me getting kicked out, like I, I used to harbor a lot of resentment about like my folks who kicked me out of the crib, my mom and dad. And like, you know, they divorced and shit. my really how it happened was my mom kicked me out and then my dad was like well you can't stay here 100 of the time and i was like well let me stay with you bitch one week you then you drop me off at my brother house and then he wasn't with that because he stayed like he had moved all the way to near where meli at really port salerno hope sound that's like that's where d-low at you know feel me my dad stay like 10 minutes from where d-low stay you feel me so goddamn yeah bro so i harbored a lot of resentment but then i got over that but then when i blew up You know, folks start asking for shit and like, you feel me?

41:32I got love for my family and shit, but like, I ain't even gonna say folks. I'm gonna just be direct so that my mama don't feel no type of way. I love my mama to death, even through all that shit, and my pops. But my pops was asking me for money and shit, and I was just like, hell no. Like, I'm not, you kicked me out of the crib at 14, bro. I'm not finna, hell no. I'll help out. You need some surgery. You need something for your health. You need money for rent. You better go make some money. Oh God. Him kicking you out the crib though, when you go look back at it, was it the results of you doing a whole bunch of shit or he was just on some bullshit?

42:03I think it was, but I'm 14 and my brother mama always told me, no matter what your kid do, you're not supposed to kick him out the house. It's not like she was in my ear trying to make me feel like they was wrong. That's just genuinely how she felt and that's how I felt too, you feel me? How your mom feel about everything that's going on, like the fame and shit? They happy for me though. They happy for me for shit, so. My mama, that's why I say I got a better relationship with my mama than my pops for real. Because my pops just get on the phone trying to sob story, bro. Get the shit out my ear, bro.

42:38That's how I be, bro. I'm going to be 100 % real. I ain't going to sugarcoat nothing. You feel me? But then my brother mama called me. My brother granny called me. My mama called me. You feel me? Then I'm picking that phone up. they're going to get the help they need, whatever the fuck. When you finally find your thing, you want the whole world to know about that thing. So you use a thing called Canva to make it an even bigger and better thing. Whether you want to create flyers for that thing, make presentations for that thing, or design merch for that thing, you can do anything. So people can see your thing, feel your thing, love your thing.

43:19The next thing you know, it's a thing. Canva, the thing that makes anything a thing. I mean, that's one of the most consistent things that everybody that I've ever seen get money or blow up or whatever, is that everybody just comes out the woodwork and starts asking for money. And it's like, at some point, you just really got to lay down the ground rules of like, I'm going to help out this person, but I can't. I told that man I'd give him 20 racks, bro, because he lost his job. I told that man I'd give him 20 racks because he lost his job three months prior. He told me, thank you, but I'm going to let you know after if I need more.

44:00I said, you're not getting no 20 racks. What the fuck?

44:07He couldn't bring himself to just be thankful in that moment. He was like, well, I might need more. Literally, because I signed a pub deal. So I signed a co-pub. So I had that co-pub coming in. I was telling track about all this shit. That shit was f***ing up my mental so bad. Right after that happened, I've been in the booth every day since, brother. Literally. That's what it is, though. It's adjusting to a new life, but being able to understand that people's looking at it from their way, too, and they can't see it from your lens because they're not the one living your life. So the biggest thing I tell them, just have grace.

44:39If you have grace, you'll have more compassion. And I'm grateful that I even, like, I don't get it, like, fucked up. Like, I'm grateful that, like, I had a Pops period. You know what I'm saying? Like, a lot of people didn't. Like, even my brother, bro, like, his Pops left and then came back and then died, like, three months later, bro. Like, no bullshit. Like, damn near in my brother arms. You feel me? So it's like, yeah, like, I be grateful. Like, my brother would tell you he used to see me ask my Pops to go back to his career, and he'll pull up with, like,$20 in a vape. I'm glad I even got$20 in a vape and you feel me give my pops a hug to be real like a lot of people don't got that even with the like resentment I got at least I had a pops you feel me I mean what happened when you got kicked out at 14 because you said you got locked up at 16 so like what was going on in between that I was like in and out of the detention center from 14 to 16 oh okay yeah so like I was on probation but did he think he was doing some tough love shit like I'm gonna kick you out so you can figure this out but what were you doing the judge looked at my folks and said do you think that he should be in a program because like that's what if you're a juvenile you get committed to a program in Florida you feel me if after you do 21 days in a tent you still can't get right they commit you to a ground so goddamn judge look at my folks and ask them that my pops like oh he just gonna violate again if he don't get put in a program told the judge that so yeah it was on some tough love shit even when I came home I got kicked out like like two years before I got locked up and then when I came home I tried to come back home and they still wasn't gone It wasn't going.

46:06You feel me? And then it was a point in time I got back in my mama crib for like, I think like a month. And I take full responsibility. My dumb ass took a car to go get some coochie in the middle of the night. You know what she's even crazier? That's what you get is Pop's honest, he's honest. They're both honest. Yeah, bro. I got pulled over at like three in the morning and I was scared. But the police let me go. And then I went home. But I had like left the seat back. I was left Gas low You left the trail Boy I woke up in the morning To bitch damn near She was packing my shit Cussing me out I'm like Was it worth it?

46:45Was the coochie worth it? Man hell nah Nah she ain't let me back After that They ain't had the window You know what I'm saying We got an Uber this time Like I really Knowing I could get kicked out For no reason And then giving them a reason Like That's why I fucked up Damn Let me ask you this what do you feel like you spend majority of your money on now like guilty pleasure i say like well majority like my money go to probably like like my like music and like my people music and like my outside outside of that like what you spending money on for you try i'm just gonna be trying uh cocos really i i get a lot of clothes I love clothes.

47:31I don't be like, you know how a lot of rappers they'll just borrow the clothes from the store and then bring it back. I like having memories in my closet, if that makes sense. I could look at something and be like, that's what I stage died for the first time in. You feel me? Shit like that. And then like, goddamn, bro, I smoke a lot. So I don't like just getting free weed from people because it be me. You feel me? I'll spend that to get some good gas. Rob Markman - What you feel like the best weed out right now? Or what you smoking? Rob Markman - I don't even know. Like really Cali weed, bro. I come here and I feel like Miami ass.

48:07Like literally. Rob Markman - All right, better question then. How much weed you smoking a day? How much you running through a day? Rob Markman - Probably like on a low end, like a zip. If I'm smoking, chain smoking in the school, two zips. Rob Markman - And then like I be having a bunch of girls at the house. So I be having like community weed and then my weed. Rob Markman - That shit go quick. I get like a pound for like the same price I get a real good QP for and then let them smoke that pound and then smoke the QP of that THRAX. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But Miami THRAX compared to LA is mid.

48:47That shit ass, bro. LA got that dope. I came over here with a quarter, like a 14 from Miami and then I'm like, I got some Metro Bloomin' I - bruh. I was gonna throw that out of the - The Metro Bloomin' out here be going crazy, right? Get ass! Oh no, what? I couldn't even break that shit up. Yeah, nah. His shit go far. Shout out to him. And another thing that I spend a lot of money on, bruh. Drank is super expensive. Another reason not to do no drugs. What'd be going for a long for like$160,$1.2? Miami is a lot different than LA, bruh. Miami you getting skint$250,$300 right now for Trish and Quagan as of what day is so they don't misquote me because it's a few months ago it was different.

49:25Damn, it's going up like stocks. November 20th? November 20th, 2025. Trish and Quagan is like$250 a line in Miami. And Pa not even an option. Damn. That shit off the shelf. I ain't got that shit off. So Trak, what advice do you give to an artist under you who is spending his money on something that I'm sure you have enough life advice or enough life experience to understand that it might not be the best? Is there a part of you that wants to be a dad and be like, listen, bro, this lean ain't in? He do. He damn was finna not cut me off, but he was like, call me when you sober, bro. For real, on some shit.

50:05I have real conversations with 19 about it, and I'm also supportive of whatever he want to do, but not trying to be enabling either. That's the difference in just where I'm at now, because it's business. But it's also, it's really like a brother too, you feel me? Like I'm 34, he's 22. Like 30, what, 12, 11 years older than him? So it's really like my little brother for real. On the outside of the music. So we just have real conversation. I was telling Remo before the interview, like bruh, Kudu has done so much for me beyond music, even down to like helping out my family. My crib is not in my name.

50:41He helped me out with that, you feel me? So people can't look up and find where I stay. I got my advance way earlier than I would've got it cause he kept helping me out with that shit hooked me up with business manager hooked me up with everything I needed like all the flat I ain't spend no money on jewelry for like a year cause I was rocking Kud shit Kud gave me overly right on every aspect of shit he don't gotta do it for real you in good hands when you got track ain't gonna lie track anybody that nigga And beyond that, like I said, with him teaching me grace and shit like that, bruh, like that shit could be in my ear just like letting me know like shit that I don't know, you feel me?

51:24I'm brand new to this shit. Who your favorite rugrat? I'd say like Tommy Pickles, but I ain't even watch that shit like that for real. I'm be real. Like, yeah, like I was fucked up by like The Simpsons, South Park, goddamn Rick and Morty. I liked them cartoons and shit. I remember when Rugrats came out. What? Shit was going crazy. That shit was like before my time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I was a little kid when it first came out, and we thought that it was kind of like revolutionary. I'm from the Buzzdown Reptile, though. The Reptile. That's hard. You got a Buzzdown Reptile. That is going to be hard.

51:59What you got right now? That a Buzzdown G-Shot? Yeah, this is G-Shot. I'm about to get one with like a purple band. He got a whole new kid on the way. Yeah, I got some shit on the way. So what the tattoos got? What you got going on? I got like a baby tiger on the cloud, because I had my little cousin Tyga had passed away when he was like 17. He was like he was running from the police, hitting cars, running from the police and then he drowned. Like a bit really don't even know what happened. And then like this is my street sign, Lonstone Creek, 2nd Street. I just got it slick infected. Not infected but my skin was like my skin like super sensitive.

52:36I got the lich from Adventure Time with like the snail because the snail is the lich with like the lich behind and the little snail like i got the yin and yang on my hands like the good and evil you feel me so like that's kind of on the same and then i got something that say i'm my brother's keeper with like an ar because my brother named tech so like the kill tech arp like i'm my brother's keeper he passed away and like literally the day after tiger his best friend shot him nine times yeah yeah that's good you gonna tattoo your face or you over that no maybe one day i'll get a little mario star right here look yeah but that's it and then i got chucky smoking i just added the blunt that he's smoking to it i live with my tattoo artist yeah i'm about to go dumb man and then i got like these little mario stars shy guy mario game boy what's your favorite one i want besides 1900 which one mean the most

53:36probably the ones on my hands because i feel like it's real meaningful show them up so the camera can see it's like right people be thinking i'm like the devil worshiper because i got that damn pentagram on one side but i just i got the star like down on one side and the star up on the other because it's like good and evil i feel like you got good and evil in your hands it's like your choice which one you want to be and then also it's like well it's your choice with your actions which one you want to carry out, and then it's also like, like, there's not one without the other. It's balance, yeah.

54:06I ain't giving that why I got one, man. That's a bar right there, too. That's why I got that shit. Man, I gotta ask this shit. What the f*** happened with you and Jace? Shit, bro, I was out the X talking shit in the interview, and goddamn, they had... So you said something about him first in the interview? Yeah, they asked me about, like, and I was just talking about rappers that I listened that told that like that shit hurt my feelings like like damn you as hard as nah i can't you feel me and he was just one of them he used to be jay's music though bro i was up because he's becoming like one of my favorite rappers y 'all know who duop kane is y 'all had in 2017 or something one of the only interviews he ever even got on the internet that's a rare one yeah bro like so boom like i'm about duop Kane and Chief Keefe and like he right up that lane.

54:55You feel me? Like so, that shit me up. But other than that, I don't got no ill will towards him or nothing. He had posted a picture of me at like, when I was like 15 with my ass out. He been telling you about that pic. I double back. Is that the old IG or some shit or something? Yeah, you can find that bit right now. Bro, I show people that IG when I wore it, bro. I was like a dumb ass legit. But goddamn, I double back with a video of him with his ass out, pointing at the camera, spinning on the chair like a stripper, dude. God damn. Yo, Jay says a funny one because I genuinely like his music and I think he's cool and shit.

55:29But when we interviewed him, I asked him about the snitching shit and I'm so used to rappers explaining away and having a million different reasons and everything and he was just kind of like, yeah, whatever. He didn't even care to explain anything and I was just like, well, you know, that's kind of valid if you're just going to say, hey, fuck it. I did some shit that wasn't great. With me, it's like I fuck with like Summers mad heavy. So it's like that's another part of it. Like I'm not, I'm genuinely cool with somebody you told on. There's not no like internet like issues, no like this man really, really don't with you because you told on him.

56:05Like you feel me? Like that's why like even when I went on Platte Boy Max, we had like told Max, like I don't even want to talk about that shit. Don't call that man. It is like a meme of like, I guess when he called him. Yeah, Summers like walked out here and wanted to be in the room. Bro, if you peep, like, Summers and Can Can, all them, they ain't never done no internet shit with his ass ever since that shit happened. You know, they really ain't been talking about, like, the whole Slate World. They don't go about Slate World no more. They kind of, like, left that alone. But I fuck with Jason.

56:33Oh, yeah, Summers' birthday just passed. He told me to drop a freestyle for his birthday. I forgot to do it. I got to do that. How y 'all get locked in? Where was y 'all relationship? Where y 'all built that? Bro, I don't even know how that shit happened. I don't remember if I hit him first or he hit me, but then, like, I ended up going to Dallas for that Jake Paul fight, And that's when I first met Montana and them boys too. But goddamn, I could go over there. I hit bro up. I ended up going to Houston just to land with bro. And then he had hopped on a clean and dirty remix. But he wasn't all the way happy with his verse.

57:04I don't even think he finished it. Yeah, I don't think we ever finished it. Yeah, because we was in that bit floating like 6 in the morning, bro. This episode is brought to you by Redfin. You're listening to a podcast, which means you're probably multitasking. Maybe even scrolling home listings on Redfin. Saving homes without expecting to get them. But Redfin isn't just built for endless browsing. It's built to help you find and own a home. With agents who close twice as many deals, when you find the one, you've got a real shot at getting it. Get started at Redfin.com. Own the dream. He ain't finished that bit.

57:41But that shit was hard. Y 'all ever heard Clean and Dirty, the song I got? I think so, yeah. That's the one he kind of went viral with. Yeah, his remix, Gas, low key. And then people would be like, wait, Summer's on this song? But then if you listen to that Swing Yo Pole by him, it's like a cheap key type. That's why I knew he would slide that bit. You said if he wasn't Rugrat. Since then, we went to the strip club in Houston, like a brand new strip club that had just opened. We was like the only people in that bit with a bunch of gold. That shit was turnt, though. Yeah, nah, Summer's ass, he got aura, man.

58:15He don't really be popping out that much. He's the funniest rapper I ever met in my life on Jesus Christ. Every time I link up with Summers, the first thing he'd be, he'd say, he'd say, I ain't gonna lie, I gotta go to Target. You trying to go to Target? You be getting for Target so much. White tees. White tees. Oh, he on the white tees. Every single time. A couple. And I've only linked with him a couple. Every single time we hit Target on God. And then he's so like, he got like fixations. I feel like he be doing like the same shit. Like, I'm the same way, bruh. Like, routines and shows the brothers' desires and shit, too?

58:50Yeah, his brother funny, too. But, Brad Cut, when he be remixing them old school songs, like that Portuguese-y love, he did a cover of, Jit is the light-skinned final boss. Jit funny as fuck, oh my god. But a lot of those dudes kind of embrace being underground rappers. But do you feel like you're in a different lane? Because I feel like you kind of make music that you're trying to make it go big. I don't know. I feel like, you know, it's crazy. I feel like I'm blessed to be in a spot where I got so much eyes on me that I could work with the whole underground damn near, because I really fuck with the underground, bro.

59:22I'm real tapped in with all the underground artists, because one of my favorite rappers is Duak King. I used to get made fun of for listening to his ass, but now everybody make music like him. It's like you underground, but you also transcended the underground. It's like I damn near skipped that bit. And that's not saying that I'm bigger than anybody that's an underground artist, because I don't even feel that way. I feel like it's like there's a difference between me and like a lot of underground artists that are solidified and that's that solidification. But that's what I'm saying. Like I had a moment.

59:54I got to scratch that moment. The underground artists that like let's say like Autumn, Summers, goddamn even like people like Rocket, K.O., other people like they got these cult fan bases that's they solidified a fan basis. You know what I'm saying? That's what I got to do. I just had a moment. I got to stretch that. You feel me? No diggy. Leaving yourself off, who would you put on the Mount Rushmore of white rappers? Oh, Krakas? Yeah. Why I got to leave my... They always leave me off. Why I got to leave me off? All right, you put yourself on there, but I still want four other names. I include them Rugrat, but four other names.

1:00:34All right. Paul Wall. That's a good one. Goddamn. Oh, Jelly Roll. Not so much a rapper these days. Yeah, nah, we gotta take him off. Hold on. All right, Pawel, Eminem. Pawel, Eminem.

1:00:55Free Jin Lee. Shout out Jin Lee. I know, Jin Lee locked up right now still? My brother just posted free him like a day or two. He might be locked up. I ain't seen him on IG. I don't know. But, nah, I'm playing. So, Eminem. Riff Raff. Bro, low key, riffraff. I'm saying sideways with Sway in the Chinese buffet. Oh, God. We were so turned up off riffraff back in the day. Riffraff, like, bro, I damn near got a riffraff flow on some songs, bro. If you pay attention, that shit be hard, bro. Riffraff, gas. But, yeah, I'll put riffraff on there for real, and then I'll go like, I'll go like.

1:01:36This summer, serve up the cookout classics. Craft mayo and dressing. Toss green salads with delicious ranch dressing or zesty Italian. Serve smooth, craveably creamy potato salads with mayo. We all know it's not a cookout without craft. We gotta go with Crechon. I don't know if you remember that. I'm just talking shit. Living a white girl, one big room full of average. Did you hear 6ix9ine mention you in the interview I did with him the other day? Somebody told me about it, but I didn't see it. He was just asking me. He kind of got serious from me. He's like, what do you think about the Rugrat Kid?

1:02:10We were talking about white rappers and Hispanic rappers and how hard it is to come up. People was trying to say I'm running with 6ix9ine probably just because I got my name, my number, and his title on him. I mean, he's a good conversationalist in particular, too. I feel like you got that going for you. That bitch funny as well. Give me that four just for the clip because I know that. The fourth person? Oh yeah, for a person, bro. I could pick girls too. Taylor Swift. Wait, she's a rapper though. Billie Eilish, no, hold on. Paul Wall, Eminem. Riff Raff. Riff Raff, and then one more. Is that himself?

1:02:48You on there too, but - Fuck, what's called a name? Damn, he look slow, but he not slow, bro. Blind Fury. Ay, that nigga used to be hard. Matter of fact, Andy Milonakis on that bit. Damn. Hey, you tapped in, though, because Blondford, wasn't he doing all the 106 and Park freestyle? Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, Blondford, guys. I asked ChadGBT, and they gave me Post Malone, Machine Gear Kelly. Oh, shit. I played Post Malone, too. He was a rapper, too. I feel like Post Malone has, like, almost never rapped. Even White House was not really a rapper. I agree. When people be trying to say that, like, he, like, use hip-hop, he always done pop music, bro.

1:03:26Yeah. He never been no overly gangster. He might have had hip hop elements in his music, but that's probably how he liked to make music back then. He wasn't overly country back then. Machine Gun Kelly's one of the ones too. You said Chad Givisica. Yeah, his era. I rock with Machine Gun. Ain't he go like pop now? He doing a little bit of rock. He do it all though. I fuck with it though. That shit hard. But he'll still pop out with like a rap single from time to time. They be doing him wrong talking about Eminem dissed him, now he went to rock. I mean, that is kind of what happened. Even though if you go back and listen to those songs, I swear to God, you listen to the Eminem song and the MGK song back to back, it is very hard to argue that Eminem's song is better.

1:04:11The MGK song hooked. Sometimes there's like a really big internet bias on dissings, bro, and both people be sliding and some people just like to put meat in their mouth and pick one over the other. I like Jack Harlow too. Jack Harlow's a good one. Jack Harlow's a good one. Jack Harlow's a good one. Jack Harlow's a good one. Action Bronson. Action Bronson. Mac Miller. How you feel about Mac Miller? The kid Ian. Y 'all rock? Ian Hart. Yeah, you are. Ian Hart. Hell yeah. You know this shit. Hell yeah. What about you? We was on XXL together. Yeet, bro. Yeet, bro. I was fucked up by Yeet for a good like six months.

1:04:43If you go and like play one Yeet song, you could get stuck playing like 30 of them bitches. He gas. Is there like a thing where... He need to start taking drugs again, Brad. Like that shit is so hard. So we telling the kids stop the drugs, but we telling Yeet to do drugs. Yeet, Yeet, accept shit. Stop the drugs, but Yeet. Take a little quarter piece of that X and make another one of them motherfuckers. His new shit hard as. Like, bruh, they was really counting him out on some shit. Like saying that his old shit, the only hard shit, his new shit, crazy. Yo Sean, ever since he linked up with the nigga Zack, they wasn't feeling him.

1:05:15But then he got his little motion back. Now Yeet one of the biggest hardest out of him. Yeah, no, for sure. That shit's sad about Maxson, bro. I didn't know who he was before. Oh, yeah. R.P. Maxson, my little man. That shit's sad as fuck. I know, bro. That shit was crazy. Just random shit. And, like, bro, mental health is mad important, bro. Like, if you got people that, even if you don't think they going through it, check on your people, bro. You feel me? Real fact, shit. R.P. Maxson, man. You ever been fucked up in the head, like, where you even thought about maybe taking your own life or anything?

1:05:40I don't, like, I don't. I wouldn't even, like, go into that. But I say like, everybody go through shit, you know what I'm saying? Like you don't know how deep in thought some people be in their head. You know, that shit. You feel me? Like I had people in my life take their life. I had an uncle, Brian, who took his life. I had an auntie, Vivian, who took her own life. I had kids in my school that took their own life. It was a jit named Simon. It was a little white jit. He had took his own life. But like nobody thought he was like f***ed up in the head. No, none of that. Like, you feel me? So it's like, that shit is sad, bro.

1:06:21You don't got to know nobody for the, you feel me, feel for shit like that. And that shit, you got to check on people, bro. Yeah, no, for sure. You never know what nobody going through. That shit caught me off guard when I seen that about Max. Yeah, because I think I just met, bro, at the LA game. He was there. He was definitely playing. Yeah, Cud told me that I had. Because my brother told me me and him like dabbed each other up at the game. But I didn't remember. But I knew he was like, he looked mad familiar when I'm seeing everything. I'm like, damn, bro. Like, he was young as fuck, hard as shit.

1:06:49Like, going up too. Oh, yeah, man. Shit random too, bro. Like, couldn't believe that shit, man. Like, what the fuck? So are you thinking about the album at this point? Like, are you thinking about the splash you want to make with, like, a full-length project? Or are you still focused on singles? I'm really, like, I'm still focused on singles for real. Like, I'm like, like, I got some shit in the tub. I got like some with Chippy Red that I'm probably finna come with at the beginning of the year. And then me and Kodak just cooked some shit. That's like, bro, it's like that 2017 act. Like that, yeah, like that shit crazy.

1:07:23So you guys still maintain the relationship? Like you pulled up on him in the studio or you did that song separately? It was that album release party he just did for his album that just dropped. Which is a pretty good album, man. And we just dropped the album too. We just dropped the album too. Yachty on that bitch, that bitch crazy. Yachty got on the run too, by the way. 19 just dropped the album. Yeah, yeah. Oh, right, right. It's like a tape, but album, whatever the fuck. Like a mixtape. The terminology be whatever the fuck. A project. It's called Big Add Kids. But yeah, like I got them. Oh yeah, I got Colorful Moolah on the cover.

1:07:57That shit, guys. Oh shit. I'm about to drop two singles. One with Ball Out and one with Lil' Flash. And I'm gonna add them onto the album. Oh, right. On some like deluxe, but not really deluxe. But he just, they got Simi on there, Quavo. Yeah, yeah, Quavo, where'd that come from? Kyle Rich. He pulled up on my birthday, bruh. I had a birthday party at, I asked my publisher if I could throw it at his crib, because my publisher, that's Post Malone manager and Quavo manager, you feel me? So that's how that happened. Wait, who is it? Austin. Oh, okay. Bruh, Cug, Crib, Soap, Player, bruh, like insane.

1:08:35So I asked him if I could throw my birthday though. And then I was already cool with old Simi because we had linked at XXL. So he had called Lil Shimmy, and then he had called Quavo, and then Mois pulled up. We was in a room like 30 deep. I had to redo my verse because my engineer couldn't mix it because there's so much talking in the back. We was in the living room, big as shit. That shit did not sound good. That song's on the tape though, Scribe every week. Every week, that big glass. Yeah, I ain't lie, you got features with everybody then at this point. It's just crazy. I really went to work with everybody I wanted to work with.

1:09:13It's a bunch of people I still ain't get to that I don't want to. Like Lucky, Veez, Chief Keef, Rollo, No Cap. Me and No Cap be talking, but me and Kud just both be fried. We just be chopping it up. We ain't never cooking no shit. Me and Nino was like that for like six months before we ever made nothing. How much do you feel that the XXL Freshman Cover Cosign influenced shit? How much does it matter in this day and age? Bro, I think that that shit became a meme. Like that shit ain't even about rap no more. I think Low Shemmy had the hardest freestyle with no beat and that shit got grazed over.

1:09:47People don't even care for the hardest rap. They just want to see the funniest shit or the shit that could get clipped or whatever the fuck. You know what I'm saying? So like music kind of different now, but it's still in a good spot. I think music in a good spot. I mean, there's a lot of like valid people on the cover with you, but then I mean Jell-O Ball I don't know man I fought with Kyle Yeah I'm sure he's a great guy But I don't know Like to me that's like Did he really put in the work To be on the first I know that song was going crazy But that was like A good week But that's the thing With Double XL though And you know It's still very much important Because it's still the culture But it's always been like that Like if it's 10, 11 Artists on there It's really one or two That becomes megastars True And then the other ones Kind of like make their career And then they have their moments they don't but it tested it does pass the test of time every xxl a double xl cover have one or two artists that became that became a major so you're looking at the overall 11 but they really just picking and choosing which you know two or three and there's so few things in hip-hop that are able to like kind of be a stamp of approval so even if it maybe has gone through some ups and downs it's still like at least there's something that can kind of like officially you know make it clear like oh this person has this stamp of approval by a big brand you know even if it is a little uh different than it used to be it's still like it's so important to have institutions watch it eat fast though having a great career at 19 i'm about to say that xxl shit linked me up with hella artists i never cooked i also was sitting there talking with vanessa i was like why you ain't put scrilla and georgiana and latoni bro what was the answer and von off what was the answer scrilla would have been an He's a cracker.

1:11:31I mean, right here, we don't disclose that. But yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel you. But I agree. She been doing her little calculations. But that year, though, they definitely, all those names you said, should have been on there. Oh, God. Skrilla, what? 6 '7". 6 '7". He got the whole biggest shit this year, bro. Also, I feel like they might have picked this cover before that. I don't think that had really cracked this year. The South Bar episode? 6 '7 is the word of the year, according to the dictionary. It is. It's hard to wrap your head around that it got that big. He need a Grammy. Most viral song.

1:12:04He need a Grammy, bro. I don't care. If Skrull don't get a Grammy, they rigging that shit. We shot it in April and then came out to late. So this thing's already pre-recorded, pre-picked. So you know what I'm saying? Yeah, it was months after. I got some questions for you though before we get some shit going. How do you be feeling about the Y and W Melly updates? I think they pushed the trial back to 2027. He in good spirits, you talked to bro. What's the update on that? Like right now, he just swapped out counsel to Drew Finley. So, you know, he got really one of the best, if not the best, lawyer.

1:12:37And shout out to Drew. He's working on that Dirk case too, you know what I'm saying? So he definitely needed some more time because Dirk trial was like way before Melly. So he and then Drew coming in as substantive counsel, we want to give him the time to learn the whole case. So, you know, we all wanted that. So pushing it back was more of a decision y 'all made? Because he swapped counsel out. If he would have stayed with the same counsel, he could have probably went to trial. But, you know, we wouldn't feel how we feel now, which is 100 % confident. Confident enough to, oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but he's in great spirit, you know what I'm saying?

1:13:10He's able to, you know what I'm saying, like understand things now. And he's older, he's 26, he's been in this situation for a lot more, you know what I'm saying? It's not a new thing. So, and now with Drew, he won, I don't know if y 'all seen, but he won a big motion, you know what I'm saying? that like now like a lot of the uh evidence texts and calls was drawn out is right so so we're about to see like how big of a change that does and you know and honestly even with y &w board shout out that's why i'm about to ask you how did you feel when you see board and plea up uh i mean like with board and playing out you know i'm saying it doesn't affect me at all it didn't really do anything but just board and decided like you know i'm saying i'm not trying to waste more time with people if they're gonna give me this which is yo you know boardland had two what uh two counts of murder like yeah with two counts of life yeah plus and they reduced it to what 10 years in this plus some time served maybe he do seven or eight so it's like he already been serving right so he felt like yo you know i'm cool with that so that was a decision he made as a man and we you know i'm saying we all we are rocking and supporting like that's family still but meli's in a great you know in great spirit and then uh recently it's that other dude i don't know who he is you probably won't even know him but it was some other nigga that was just uh he went viral recently his interrogation video oh yeah was he somebody that you was around like was or did you even know him um so that's very so that it's a great it's an old interrogation video but it just yeah it just resurfaced yeah so yeah he was around um he was really one of the homies that came around when you know when maddie would go back to gifford and like you know grab their homies that come through they chill at the crib for like a weekend or a week you know so yeah i mean you know i don't i I didn't really know him, but shit, at the end of the day, you know, y 'all seen it for yourself.

1:14:52Yeah, now we seen it for okay. It's a movie, you know what I'm saying? Because I don't know where half of those things came from in his head. Crazy. I bet when he got locked up seven years ago or six years ago or whatever that you didn't think that you'd still be dealing with this all these years later. No. Remember, I was saying Madly will be home in two years. Yeah. And COVID did play a part of that. But then it's just like 19 said, it's on God's timing. Like, when God's ready, he's going to come home. But now this is the most confident and comfortable that we ever felt because of the counsel that we have.

1:15:24Yeah. I mean, you have never shown even the slightest bit of doubt that he's coming home. So if we see him walk in this building one day, it's going to definitely, that's the first thing I'm going to tell him is like, yo, track never, ever gave up on you at all. No, for sure. And I never will. You know what I'm saying? Like, Melly's one of the ones that like in a fortunate situation happened. And it just, like I've been saying this forever. like this is how the system is fortunately he gotta prove he's innocent you know but you know we know like you know what I'm saying this type of love and the relationship I mean Adam you did the first interview where you was like yo damn your homie's on your face like how that went he was like no they're right there he's like oh shit okay yo that clip still is so spooky what the fuck right so it's like to be honest it's like bro I know the real bro we know the real like Melly love those guys and It's unfortunate what happened.

1:16:19So you can't just predict. God don't make mistakes. What he's dealing with, having to deal with losing his friends, putting a pause in his career, and seven years of just unfortunate life losing to the system. But no, we're here. When he come home, he's going to go crazy. He's going to live his life. He's 26. Come home at 27. You know what I'm saying? Even if it's 28, whatever. Bro, you have a whole lot of life ahead of you. Let me ask you this as an executive. because nowadays we don't really get the executives like how we get how you're coming and shit. You got the CMG, Yo Gotti, or the Birdman Cash Money vibe going on.

1:16:57Every time we see you, you in a suit now. You got jewelry. You make sure the whole team is here. How do you feel about rap though in general? Because they said this is the first time that there hasn't been a rap song in the top 40 years and shit. So as an executive, how do you feel about that? And where do you feel like rap is going? or like what do you think needs to be done to be honest yeah it's a it's in a very slow um space and but this happened before right so you know like and i think it happens in every genre it's just now i feel like um more more eyes is on like on hip-hop because of like the talent level and i think less superstars are being made and more artists are being found which i feel like needs to get back like back like we need to figure out a balance where if we're finding this and breaking artists we're making superstars instead of just like something it's like in the wind in a year or two that artists don't even matter or we or or the level of where they was at is damn near half gone instead of increasing and that you know like the Nicki Minaj how the Cardi B's the Kodaks the Chief Keys the Lil Durks how all you know even like the NBA Young Boys like how all of grew into like into superstars but they're staying stars I feel like that's why like we're having this issue because you know artists is not striving to be great enough they're chasing the fast money and the checks and they're not doubling down on their career yeah nah I feel like it didn't got watered down but it seemed like the roster of people you find everybody got talent like for some reason you know how to pick them nah oh yeah Hot Boy 2 that one name we didn't say Hot Boy Gaz for sure shout out to Hot Like he about to drop, you know what I'm saying, a tape to on top of the year coming.

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