4xtra Arrested for a Body! Lil Durk Beats all his Charges! Wack Beat Up a Rapper & More!

14 Sep 2026 · 1 h 37 min · 39 chapters

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In short

This episode is a wide-ranging discussion mixing street/legal talk, music-industry stories, and personal relationship logistics. The main “news” thread centers on 4Xtra (a Crip associated with No Jumper guests) and his alleged 2015 involvement in a homicide/attempted murder. Guests debate whether the case is “fresh” or old, whether the victim is actually a body or an attempted murder, and what 4Xtra’s current jail conditions mean (medical placement, possible waiver to general population, and risks of infection/violence). Key claims include: Jay Hood relayed that cops visited a prison homie for information about 4Xtra; 4Xtra’s attorney/Instagram post suggests release is possible but the DA allegedly hasn’t formally filed charges yet; and the hand injury (described as metal) affects whether he can safely move to general population.

Notable examples

discussion of “medical” vs county, “main line” safety, and references to other street figures (Charleston White, Spodyface, academics).

Other segments

Wack 100 recounts managing/booking stories involving Blueface and an artist he says QC dropped after work ethic issues; talk about Lush’s sobriety/recovery claims vs alleged relapse and graphic injury footage; and a relationship/household “mental load coach” debate. Guests are Bill Simmons (host) and Wack 100 (primary speaker), plus other referenced personalities (e.g., Jay Hood, Flacco, Adam/Academics, Lush, Blueface, Lil Durk/Dirk trial context).

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Discussion on Legal Troubles and Street Life

0:30 to 1:06

Exploration of the implications of street life and the legal issues surrounding it.

“This episode is brought to you by ChatGPT.”

Speculation on Forextra's Case

1:06 to 2:52

Speculation regarding Forextra's legal troubles and potential charges.

“All the Crips that work with you directly at No Jumper go to jail for serious offenses after working with you at No Jumper.”

Personal Connections and Legal Advice

2:52 to 4:50

Discussion on personal connections related to Forextra and advice on his situation.

Implications of Jail and Gang Reputation

4:50 to 10:12

Discussion on the realities of jail time and the reputation associated with gang life.

“I mean, we could try to pretend we're somewhere else.”

Challenges in the Music Industry

10:12 to 14:00

Insight into the struggles artists face in the music industry and work ethic issues.

“I hope it's an old case that some of his homeboys call themselves telling on because he got more action at beating something like that, which they probably don't have a gun.”

Management Decisions and Consequences

14:00 to 15:10

Learn about the challenges of managing artists and the repercussions of poor work ethic.

“which if you try to step into that, you're going to run into headaches because you're going to look up and the business is going to be everywhere.”

Tour Conflicts and Realizations

15:10 to 17:41

Discover the impact of tour dynamics on relationships and the resulting conflicts.

“Because it's like, I'm going to let you be who you want to be from the beginning.”

Confronting Lush's Situation

17:41 to 19:14

Examine the complexities of Lush's life post-rehab and the dangers he faces.

“And sure enough, he pulled his gun out, shot once in the air.”

Lush's Struggles and Risks

19:14 to 20:39

Understand Lush's ongoing challenges and the severity of his recent experiences.

“I'm taking it that his dad may be rest in peace.”

Ideas for Rehabilitation Efforts

20:39 to 22:28

Explore unconventional ideas for helping addicts in a controlled environment.

“And he told us it was this dude that he knows.”
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Touring Experiences and Conflicts

22:28 to 23:02

Hear about the chaotic interactions and conflicts during tours.

“because they're gonna be hooping and keistering they coming in there with some shit i mean lush does that anyway.”

Reflections on Personal Relationships

23:02 to 26:09

Delve into personal reflections on relationships and the need for improvement.

“So I don't know if D-Dubb I had to get D-Dubb to go over there.”

Household Dynamics and Challenges

26:09 to 28:00

Investigate the balance of responsibilities and expectations in a relationship.

“I shall not say but you'll see well I'll tell you what you're doing what a lot of people have done helped build and continue to build to where they get to a point that they don't need you to build.”

Balancing Responsibilities in Relationships

28:00 to 30:00

The hosts discuss challenges in managing household responsibilities and personal growth in relationships.

“She's going to have to let you do it when you're doing it and not interfere how you're doing it.”

Navigating Personal Growth and Adulting

30:00 to 32:00

A candid conversation about the struggles of becoming more self-sufficient and handling adult responsibilities.

“So that's really what it's all about is like trying to figure out how to be a little bit more of a grownup.”

Separation and Relationship Dynamics

32:00 to 34:20

An exploration of the implications of separation in relationships and the complexity of emotional ties.

“All right, let me give you another way of looking at this.”

Long-term Relationships vs. New Beginnings

34:20 to 36:50

The discussion revolves around whether to stay in long-term relationships or seek new connections as life progresses.

“No, you getting divorced for real, for real.”

The Complexity of Trust and Lies in Relationships

36:50 to 39:40

A critical look into how dishonesty and trust issues affect relationships, using real-life examples.

“Do you think you should chill or you think it's a fair response?”

Legal Matters and Personal Anecdotes

39:40 to 42:00

The hosts share insights on legal issues surrounding arrests and the implications of personal decisions in the public eye.

“So Spodyface today on the news said that the DA has not formally filed charges yet either.”

Examining Gang Life Risks

42:00 to 45:20

Explore the inherent dangers of street life and the consequences of gang affiliation.

“sitting in the car they didn't say he was swatting and they went to the extreme they never told him why they was pulling him over or asking him to get out.”

The Impact of Media on Legal Cases

45:20 to 47:30

Discuss the repercussions of public statements on ongoing trials, particularly in rap culture.

“What exactly did academics do in his coverage of the Little Dirk trial that you felt was a little over the line?”

Verdict Predictions for Lil Durk

47:30 to 49:40

Analyze the jury's deliberation process and what it could mean for Lil Durk's future.

“I tell people about this, but with you, if Adam asks you a question that you think is outrageous and incriminating, just look at it.”

Potential Future Charges and Implications

49:40 to 55:50

Examine the possibility of additional charges against Lil Durk and the complexities involved.

“If they make the weekend, I think he's going to walk.”

Legal Battles and Mistrials in Hip Hop

56:00 to 1:02:30

Explore the ongoing mistrial situations involving hip hop artists and their implications.

“The juror starts looking at this dude like he's the, why wouldn't they put the charge there?”

Dirk's Potential Not Guilty Verdict

1:02:30 to 1:04:50

Discussing the potential implications of Lil Durk's not guilty verdict on his career.

“They're not going to play with him like that because if he goes in for a second one, one, I think they'll give him a bail on his next one.”

Chicago Drill Scene Dynamics

1:04:50 to 1:06:50

Analyzing the complex relationships and history within the Chicago drill rap scene.

“I even hear Lil Pop was saying some disrespectful shit, you know, about things that was going on.”

The Evolution of Hip Hop Culture

1:06:50 to 1:09:00

A discussion about the transition of hip hop culture and its current state.

“Yeah, we definitely got to get this verdict, bro.”

AI Influence in Music Today

1:09:00 to 1:10:00

Examining the growing trend of AI-generated music and its reception in the club scene.

“Yo, this new song I forget the name of it it's a rapper, he comes in no jumper but it's like some white boy shit they playing in the club, everybody goes crazy What's it called?”

Discussion on Charlie Kirk and His Controversial Persona

1:10:00 to 1:12:00

Explore the complexities of Charlie Kirk's persona and its implications.

The Journalist Beef and Clubhouse Drama

1:12:00 to 1:14:20

Delve into the conflict involving an openly gay journalist and their history on Clubhouse.

“why this is funny he's from clubhouse okay they're not comes from clubhouse he got ran off of clubhouse about two years ago, and he went to YouTube.”

Revealing the Journalist's Past

1:14:20 to 1:16:40

Uncover shocking details about the journalist's past videos and allegations.

“He's a predator like that when it comes to men because on Clubhouse, he used to say shit to men that was crazy like so people wouldn't even go on his face.”

Debate Over the Journalist's Behavior

1:16:40 to 1:18:55

Discuss the hypocritical behavior of the journalist regarding threats and past actions.

“You know with us, you get to say it too much.”

Nori and Vlad's Ongoing Feud

1:18:55 to 1:21:00

Examine the escalating feud between Nori and Vlad and its public perception.

“Now he says, okay, I see Trap Lord Ross down there.”

Allegations Against Nori from 1999

1:21:00 to 1:23:20

Discuss the serious allegations resurfacing against Nori and the broader implications.

“You didn't text me 10 times talking about all of them not guilty.”

Nori's Allegations and Vlad's Reaction

1:24:00 to 1:25:44

Discussion about allegations against Nori involving past sexual misconduct and Vlad's commentary.

“This woman, Vlad actually interviewed her before.”

Nori's Obligations and Missteps

1:25:44 to 1:28:40

Analyzing Nori's failure to honor commitments to Vlad and his public image.

“He chose to cross his bloodline, his Jewish bloodline, with a black woman twice.”

Legal Issues and Historical Context

1:28:40 to 1:31:26

Exploration of the legal implications surrounding Nori's allegations and past actions.

“as if you didn't sit down with him in 2015, 2017, 2024, where Rick Ross shit happened in 2007 or 2008.”

Discussions on Age of Consent

1:31:26 to 1:33:35

Conversations about the age of consent laws and cultural implications in the industry.

“Whatever you are, he had some of those if he needed that.”

Future Plans and Final Thoughts

1:33:35 to 1:36:10

Talk about upcoming events, personal plans, and a humorous offer regarding Dirk.

“But matter of fact, he's actually over there asshole naked right now.”
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0:53Get started at ChatGPT.com by selecting work mode available on Plus and Pro plans. They said we're live. He's just happy. Happy? I've been doing the math. What am I happy about? I've been doing the math, bro. All the Crips that work with you directly at No Jumper go to jail for serious offenses after working with you at No Jumper. Crip Mac, Rick Baby, NFA, 4X, just to name a few, bro. You know, I think my problem is that I'm so tapped in with the streets that when I go to grab up a host, I go to the people who really be putting in work. I go to the people who are really out here conspiring, stalking, tracking.

1:53This is what I'm saying, bro. like i'm trying to understand okay first i thought it was an old murder now they're telling me it's attempted murder a fresh one wait a new one they're saying this is a fresh attempted murder oh and i was thinking about that because i the whole 2015 thing was based on what j hood told me his homie heard from the cops so i was thinking that that yeah that's what they said but there's also a good chance it could be a a new thing now what do you mean jay hood his homie hurt man what you mean the cops came and told somebody else yeah yeah like his homie in prison and i guess i don't know people are acting like this is controversial so i apologize to jay hood if this is in any way like a pain for you to deal with because i did not intend to get him in any hot water i would have just said somebody told me if i knew that this was going to be a thing but all Jay Hood said was that he has a homie who's in prison and this was a couple weeks ago and he said that the cops went and paid his homie a visit and asked for information about Forexra allegedly killing somebody in 2015 and that was what I relayed to Forexra I told him and Flacco seems to think that I'm going to get a charge for obstructing justice but I just he got his nerves right I mean I just told Forexra like yo just be aware of this and I told him I like I don't really have like a lot of information and obviously there's like nothing you can do if it's really like something that old but I told him that when you told him what did he say I left him a voice note on his phone and I was on vacation in Seattle with my uh ex-wife and my kid and I uh I was on do not disturb he tried to call me back I missed it I tried to call him he didn't pick up so we missed each other there and that was like maybe a week ago uh maybe two weeks ago what do you mean ex-wife you don't have that right bro you're right we're still married legally because I've been legally separated with a divorce file for four or five years and they don't let me say ex they just everybody wants me to still be married they just asked an R &B I just think they don't want me with you fair but we can talk about that but so who told you that the 4XR thing is a current situation um baby shooter hit me no he said they called him at a hotel or something in Glendale I said I think he think he knew they was coming yeah he probably thought that he could run yeah but you can't run in LA County bro you gotta run yeah you can't go to Glendale he could have came to your house nah he couldn't come to my house what you mean bro I don't harbor convicts he ain't a convict until he get caught that would be a good hey what about that for a stream at No Jumper where we have a convict and we harbor him for however long he needs until the cops eventually come and get him so you wanna just let the cops know, hey, he's here.

5:15Come pick him up. I mean, we could try to pretend we're somewhere else. I don't know. Charleston White says he keeps knowledge of murders so when he goes to jail, he can give them up and turn the people in. That's smart. I should do that. How would you have knowledge of murders, bro? Just ask around a little bit more? Oh, yeah. you diabolical bro you you you uh god damn so you you tell me they they said that they took uh forextra and they put him in medical they wouldn't they wouldn't put him right in the county as he's probably done every other time he's ever been arrested instead he's in the count he's in medical and is it true that he would like potentially be able to sign a waiver to get released to general population?

6:07Well, that all depends on the condition of that hand. It's been over a year. I don't know if it's, you know, all healed up as best as he could because it looks like he keeps it in an ace bandage. I haven't seen him with it just out or with the sum on it. They're not going to release him. They're not going to release him like that into population. with that hand like that, bro. Now, will 4X just probably try to sign a waiver because of his quote-unquote stigma of always being on the main line? Probably so. Is it smart? Hell no. Do I think people would do him dirty and care less about his hand? Absolutely.

6:59You don't think he would be supported by all the other neighborhood Crips enough that they would protect him if anybody was trying to fight him? Yes, but I also think if any of his ops that he has done dirty, he has a reputation. Yeah. Catch him. Remember carrots? He put a carrot in a butt, yeah. He's got some things, right, to where people like, we don't got no feelings or emotions about what you're going through. I really think, because look, I would do my op dirty if you were one of them ops that we've heard about dogging our homies out, bro. Just tell me. So you're saying you think there's a high chance that 4X will be carried?

7:42I think there's a high chance that if his ass signed that waiver, it's going to be a different dance for him on that main line. Man, I can't imagine the 4X that I know not choosing to be in the mix with all of his homies. I just can't imagine. And especially like maybe he doesn't do it today or tomorrow, but let's say he ends up doing a couple years. For sure he needs to be in the mix. He ain't the type to just want to be tucked away. He's already been working out. He's put some resistance to the hand already. Push-ups, burpees. I haven't seen him do some weightlifting. Right. I just think LA County, they're going to say, no, you have to go here once they look at the condition of that hand.

8:40Will he try? He definitely is going to try because in his mind, if he doesn't, there's going to be a strike against him. But I just don't think it's smart out the gate. That's a filthy place, bro. He can get an infection. You know what I'm saying? Once you get away from that infirmary, you're subject to all kind of BS. Especially since he claims that he has already knocked somebody out with his metal hand. Is it metal in his hand? I mean... Yeah, I don't know what it looks like, but somehow in there, he said it's just a bunch of metal. And I don't really... I have a hard time imagining what it would look like.

9:25But he said that he has hit somebody with the metal hand. And I think he said that they got knocked out, or at least they got hurt really badly. So he can move whatever fingers that's left to kind of get them out the way. I mean, I think he only has the pinky and the thumb. And so then I guess in the center, there's some kind of metal in here. I see something here coming out of that. Yeah, I don't think most of the fingers are blown the whole way off. I don't know how much they left. But either way, I mean, I would think that it would hurt unbelievably bad to hit somebody with the medal in the hand.

10:03But I don't know. He probably has a high pain tolerance. I'm going to send four extras of money to his books. I will hope. Look, I hope it's nothing fresh. I hope it's an old case that some of his homeboys call themselves telling on because he got more action at beating something like that, which they probably don't have a gun. The witnesses might come to court, but if it's something brand new where they got camera footage and fresh new eyewitnesses, it's a bad deal. He's 38. 38. 25 to life means he got to do at least 20 before he goes to board. He'll be 58 going aboard and probably won't get out until he was 68.

10:57Right. Yeah. I don't know, man. I hope he's able to figure it out and not get in too much trouble, but it's a crazy situation. I don't know. It's the games, bro. It's the streets. This is why when I hear idiots say, hey, I'm out here. You're not. hey uh i'm this and this in them streets in 2026 bro i figured this shit out in the 90s me too me too look never gang banged it's it's nothing about the streets that's prosperous not even rap music this is true this is true not even rap music because i know some people that if they hadn't become a rapper, probably would be alive today. Right. Who were you beating up on the Blueface tour?

11:49Oh, no, that was just, that was just Zesty, dude. He from Love and Hip Hop. I saw somebody, a clip of somebody like pressing you, claiming that you on tour. I think DW Flame said it. DW Flame said that you on tour, that you were beating up one of the rappers and I read a bunch of comments arguing about who it would be I don't even want to name them you mean on the tour tour I didn't beat nobody up I had to check the little weird dude E.K.E. what was he doing the dude told me that I didn't help him with his rap career he said you did just a little bit it wasn't a lot I said, hey, bro, you know I met you at No Jumper when True Car brought you up there on the Thursday.

12:46Didn't know you. By Tuesday, Wednesday, you had a six-figure deal, and you were signed to QC. You chose to have homeboy brother management. I didn't fight you on it. I didn't take none of your money. I let you go. and within four months you were dropped. But I put close to$400 ,000 in your pocket and didn't know you. Wait, so QC gave him$400 ,000 to sign, but then they gave up within four months? What I did was I ran him bow-legged. I got him a single deal at Hitmaker with Alan Grumblack for six figures. And then I got him a distribution deal, right, as an artist with QC for six figures. They probably did it based on me.

13:50He wanted his brother, who had never managed anybody, to manage it. Us managers that have been around understand that when somebody's coming with that language, which if you try to step into that, you're going to run into headaches because you're going to look up and the business is going to be everywhere. So I let him do what he did. Three, four months later, they dropped him. He calls me, hey, Wack, I need your help. What's that? They're talking about dropping me because it is that and other. Can you call him? I told him, how did your manager call him? But why did they drop him? What happened?

14:27What changed? his work ethic QC don't play that shit when they needed him in the studio he was spending a lot of time picking up the club bags and running around and jumping on stage instead of hitting the studio when they had producers lined up for him and he didn't know once they lined up producers your feature work is there with you artists is on the label I saw the artists they got a relationship with So when his work ethics was like that and they seen that I wasn't on the management team, they let him go. Could I have called in and saved it? Yeah. Did I? No. Why? Because it's like, I'm going to let you be who you want to be from the beginning.

15:16Anybody that comes and put mid-six figures in my pocket that I didn't know, that I know has the capabilities of managing, I watched him get on the phone push some buttons and make that happen take it I had to clear the single it was an Akon song ghetto I had to call Akon direct who informed me that Monty and Avery living at Republic owned half the song I had to call Monty and Avery direct cause they were about to pull the song tell them I had something to do with it get it cleared I had to deal with all this shit and he went the other way so I just let him go the other way and when he got in trouble I just simply didn't fix it damn so on the tour when he said that I got a little upset but it sounds like you really weren't f***ing with him but then you still took him on the tour no um Blueface said he asked me I'm gonna take the little dude on the tour so you know I ain't no hater I could have shut it down I said cool no problem I ain't tripping So I let him go on the tour He gets on the tour and I think in the back of his mind He's on some

16:36You didn't stop it or couldn't stop it Not knowing that I didn't try to stop it Brew asked me I could have just told him what it was And it wouldn't have happened I just didn't trip So when he said on the bus Man you never did nothing for me I fired his shit up. You beat him. You beat his ass. I fired his shit up. Got off on him a couple times. What? Just a little whoopty whoop? Just quick get off. What? And then I told him, your mouth and your attitude and you acting, playing tough is going to get you hurt. Two months later, we're off tour. He calls me five in the morning crying. I was at the extreme pool party in San Bernardino, and these Crip dudes from five-time Crip robbed me, because he kept telling me, I keep a blower.

17:33I said, bro, they will take your gun. You're not ready and willing to go all the way. I see it in your eyes. Yeah, you don't know me. You don't know me. I'm Nigerian. And sure enough, he pulled his gun out, shot once in the air. They took his gun, used his own gun to rob him for his jury. Watch, change, everything. Now, guess what? No, you ain't ready for this. What the f***? That's who Houseley was at. Who? Luce Cannon's brother. Whoa, it all comes back to the Cannon fam. Yo, so I called Luce's brother. He has the clip. He got the video. Right. So he's asking me, Wack, can you get it back? I said, I'm pretty sure I could.

18:20Am I? No. I told him, call your management. But he told me, I get what you're saying now. I need to simmer down and get back in my lane. That's like Josh all of a sudden playing like he's brick baby. Well, in some ways that is accurate. Who? Josh I mean that's only when he's beating on Jaleesa's Dang thing between her thighs That's one example but I mean you know Some people have called him the Jewish brick baby What? Hey I would never allow Josh to do that around I'm like Josh cut that out Yeah I had to tell Josh you're not going to be From a neighborhood I had to shut that down Josh was trying to gangbang?

19:09Yup Yo man what's going on with Lush? lush is back he's back in effect he's uh he's doing the podcast he's he's sober he looks great uh huh no he's been back to mcgotha park they sent me some content i just didn't put it up so you're saying that he actually is back on the juice back on the on the mess i'll send a video to you i the goo that i just didn't put it up like they they know it really well i guess his dad left him some portraits. I'm taking it that his dad may be rest in peace. And on the back of the portrait, he wrote when Lush graduates from high school, then and only then he can have this.

19:57And whoever these dudes are, they know Lush pretty well. They're tied to the other dudes. They sent me the video clip. It was kind of like outrageous. I just stopped attacking him and didn't put it up. So you're saying you have video of Lush doing or buying drugs in MacArthur Park since he left rehab? He's still in it. They're saying Lush, they wanted me to put it up and they wanted him to deny it and then they were going to run the other play. So I just didn't put this one up because they're flashing blowers and all kinds of shit. What? I'm going to send it to you. It's crazy. But I just left it alone because I know these dudes.

20:36I see Lush communicating with them. he's really kind of terrorizing these dudes and they're really pushing up they're like over pushing the line i'm telling you like they're over pushing the line what the hell some real bully shit like so i'm like i ain't put it up i left it alone listen i mean i was a little worried too this morning because lush sent us a video in the group chat of like so much blood on the ground in his apartment. And he told us it was this dude that he knows. But I couldn't understand based on the video how... What are you doing there? I mean, it looked like a guy got killed.

21:24It was the most blood you've ever seen. And I still don't know. I asked in the group chat, I'm like, what's that about? What are you doing there? He said his homie punched a window and cut his whole arm open. And that's why he bled out like that. Wow. lush shouldn't even be around them type of environments that's what i'm saying we should be around the total opposite because eventually it's gonna drag you right back here that's what i'm saying i'm trying to figure out how to avoid that what do you think about like a a rehab lock-in we get a bunch of junkies and we we set up some beds here we do a live stream and we document the junkies that we lock in the no jumper building you mean some fresh junkies that haven't kicked yet uh see i was thinking that's the kind of the problem is that if they're like active drug users and then you just make them go cold turkey they could like die from withdrawal symptoms probably we would need to have like some kind of doctor come and like talk to them every day or take a look at them but listen you're gonna need somebody to search them real good because they're gonna be hooping and keistering they coming in there with some shit i mean lush does that anyway.

22:36What? I saw Lush with a nitrous tank in his ass. Oh my god. Dead homies. No, yeah, but it's crazy. I'm glad that you've... DW Flames, folk? I just did DW as college. I went to hike the whole hill as a fireman for him. I don't know if I'm going to be able to find the clip right now, but I'm assuming that if I look up DW Flame WAC 100, maybe I can find it oh yeah yeah yeah listen listen hold on and then we was on tour and then there's an artist we kept slapping I'm not gonna put his name out there but little kept getting slapped yeah on the tour I'm talking no and then he kept staying on the tour like I'm like what are you doing black was not hitting why are you he was slapping up if you bring it up like uh i told you good you seem like a cool he could make music he he was a nice okay going right now yeah but i'm like oh you see that stories like that yeah you oh no if i find out who you is i'm gonna expose you i'm keeping it real and when i see you i'm gonna smack you yeah do it once you get smack you keep gonna get smacked i'm just bruh i hate this i feel like i'm like watching this kid's career that he's talking to is that uh rios that was dw flame talking to king yellow and 607 unk oh oh shit oh i feel so bad like i mean this is about a month back the interview i remember 607 calling me telling me he paid for dw's ticket in hotel and now he's a no-show can you call him for me?

24:28Oh shit. So I don't know if D-Dubb I had to get D-Dubb to go over there. D-Dubb is grimy though. He's over there talking about that shit like as if that's not going to fucking irreparably damage bro's career. I mean he said it. It was EK. He shit is what it is. Well they actually didn't say his name but then you had already said his name so. Well look it is what it is. You tricked me. You said they said the name. what's up with this fake Leonard shit bro um we've been going through it but I don't know I mean honestly me talking about it publicly I feel like that made me feel like we have a higher chance of working it out so right now I'm just really focused on trying to be the best partner I can be for her I feel like I can possibly pull it together so i guess you're getting home and you're just not doing nothing just being a piece of shit i got to take over more of the household responsibilities and everything for sure and i just got to be a little bit more present nicer a little bit more friendly to be around i'll just be like monster cody in there just mean mugging just looking around the house just what the hell you be you don't like me hey bro i'm gonna be real if that's the case I don't think you like her like that nah I do I'm just kidding but I don't know I mean I just feel like our relationship we just need a little bit of a reset right now she's gonna have a big week next week though next week?

26:06yep what? what's going on next week? I shall not say but you'll see well I'll tell you what you're doing what a lot of people have done helped build and continue to build to where they get to a point that they don't need you to build. And they get cocky. You think Len is cocky? And they start to forget where the build came from. You think I should tell? Should I tell you that? You're just getting cocky. I went through it. Ah, okay. And they start to forget where it all came from were to push who watered the seeds and they're in a place to where people responded regardless and they start to say things and do things and act ways I just hope she's not falling into that I went through it she's got some fair points about me and my behavior but that being said I'm going to tell her when I get home you're just getting cocky I think that'll probably be pretty productive.

27:18Well, you already talked about maybe a few weeks ago, the things that you should be doing that you don't do. Yeah, it's a journey. Helping around the house. I'm going to be real. The key to helping around the house is having a great, having great handyman in your phone book. That is, I think, part of it is that I think, you know, she's annoyed slash like it's not good for her state of mind about her relationship when she feels like she's the one calling the handyman she's the one calling the contractor she's the one dealing with the gardener the groundskeeper whatever it is you know it's like even though it's like a small commitment on a weekly basis it's still like her being the main point of contact I think that's part of the issue we need to like balance out our workload better well yeah What she is going to have to do, she seems like she wants things her way.

28:20She's going to have to let you do it when you're doing it and not interfere how you're doing it. Because you may call, come out, yeah, cool, and then she's like, no, I want it this way. Yeah, that's definitely part of the problem is that she's really, really competent when it comes to just getting things done and meanwhile i am a moron and i tend to like mess things up more often than not when i'm doing like anything besides podcasting but i think i need to like get more in touch with the version of myself that is capable of actually uh doing things so it's a it's a battle it's a grind but i think i'm gonna get there the gardener and the pool guy comes from your neighbors whoever their gardener and pool guy you catch them get a number boom this is how you hired we've been in this house for like seven years so we probably had the same pool guy for like seven years this is what i'm saying so all these people then you get your electrician and a plumber and one handyman you're good they're good but some things you do gotta do it on your own bro like you know there's some things you can go fertilize the grass you know foot rub you do the foot rub change the yeah the foot rubs y 'all do that but that ain't you though but if he wants you to do it that's not a deal breaker no I'm gonna figure it out I'm gonna keep working on it I got a whole plan I'm putting together I'm gonna it's a little difficult because it's like she's already got stuff so in order that i have to kind of like temporarily be a pain in the ass in order to like take stuff over but i'm gonna figure it out i got a coach i got a mental load coach what he uh he specializes in this sort of thing there was actually a new york times article about couples hiring mental load coaches who help to like balance out relationships between partners as far as uh the household responsibilities and like the overall mental load of like having a child in particular you know you white people are real y 'all odd that's different my mental load coach is also welcome to uh black customers clients yo so you guys thought mine is going to teach you how to pretty much juggle responsibility well i do think that anyone who watches my content over the years probably could acknowledge that I am a child and that I certainly need help transitioning into adulthood in any way.

31:09So that's really what it's all about is like trying to figure out how to be a little bit more of a grownup. What do you mean you're a child? What are you talking about? I experienced success at a very young age from doing a very childish thing riding bikes and never really had to grow up too much so there's a lot of like response a lot of coping mechanisms that like normal capable adult humans have that I never really learned because I was always happy to just sort of like hire somebody to kind of like do all the stuff that I didn't want to do and as a result I think it's made me kind of useless as a person and I I need to just like be a bit more capable, a little bit more eyes on my own business, my own family, household, et cetera.

31:57Hey y 'all, Adam, that's some bullshit, bro. Let me tell you something. All right, let me give you another way of looking at this. Okay. If you would have applied yourself young, how to be a handyman, how to fix the car, how to fix all these things, and didn't apply yourself to what you did to be who you are today, Lena wouldn't be with you today yeah I mean maybe but I still I want to grow as a human whack bro look I don't do I'm not going to pick up no shovel and dig up the pipes but I will call the people to do it I don't think she expects me to be like fixing the underground pipes in our yard if those even exist so yeah I could call the guy yeah yeah I mean but now if you're not if something happens and you're just like alright let her get it handled that can be a bit irritating I think that's the sort of vibe that she doesn't like in our relationship yeah when her car needs an oil change do you do it?

33:05never have I done an oil change she just drops it off at the dealership like I do so do you take her car to the dealership? no I would I could I should volunteer to do that next time though that's that would be kind that would be a nice gesture do you make sure her car is gassed up or does she do that she keeps an eye on that although you know I've done it yeah my dad was big on that when I was a kid in general though being that like right now technically I'm like separated from her so realistically I could kind of put my dick inside of other humans and having like the feeling that i could do that i really don't want to do that i really like being with her i think i really want to focus my attention on her at this time okay she do the same and it's cool uh in theory sure yeah okay and you wouldn't be mad about it because she would say we were separated i'll probably have to get my lick back.

34:12Yeah, y 'all different, bro. Yeah. Yeah, we're different. So, did you file for legal separation? No, nothing like that. No paperwork. Yeah, see, I got paperwork. Your shit ain't, you just... No, you getting divorced for real, for real. What you're doing is a thing. I mean, listen, bro. The thrill is gone. When it's gone, it's gone. haven't you been separated from her for like 10 years damn near no i've been um about five years five okay close to five years so but divorce court it's easy if you just both agree it's a little difficult when people are trying to get things that is just not gonna happen okay this is like my question for you big picture when it comes to relationships and i'm not directly referencing my relationship but this is just something that sometimes I think as as a dude a lot of us might end up in a relationship when you're in your 20s when you're in your 30s and then that relationship falls apart at some point when you're kind of like in the middle of your life like if my relationship were to not work out right now I would be a 42 year old bachelor and many other people in similar positions you you became single when you were like 42 or 43 or whatever is it better to fix things and ride it out with the girl that you've been with for a decade plus or is it better to do kind of what you did which is to you know find a a a in r &b's case she's not that much younger but she definitely seems younger uh girl is it better to stick it out with your day one or is it better to move on to a spring chicken my situation a little different because mine started in my teens yeah 14 to 44 insane crazy run i think maybe the last six to eight years was me sticking out through obligation of my kids work still in the house.

36:28No, I think once you detect you don't like him and he don't like you and being at home is not a joyful, fun thing and everything's always a problem, I think you should make the split right then. no more obligations because of kids let let them get used to what it's going to be because it's going to turn into that anyway you're just going to be lost a lot of years that you could already be reestablished you know lennon didn't really appreciate this idea but i did tell her that i wanted to keep blue faces streams on repeat in our house so that she can always be reminded that it could be worse that's a fact and that's his real life i just got off the phone yeah yeah you know i told her hey stop calling and bugging him bro oh really gonna tell you some crazy shit he really don't care okay so this is really about her getting the tattoo of nba young boy getting it covered up but then telling blue face that it was a tattoo of him it's about him finding out from the world and not her right which is crazy because he's been free for all these months so you know she had the dang on her face he didn't trip it was tattooed on her face but i think it comes from he like if you're gonna lie about that what else you lie about yeah i mean do you think that it's fair or do you think that he should show her a little bit more grace just given that she is you know possibly postpartum uh and has like a baby that's like, you know, less than a month old.

38:29Do you think you should chill or you think it's a fair response? I mean, she lied about it before the postpartum. She lied about it. Yeah, true. And then that was what pissed him off in the clip that I saw is that even once he confronted her about it, she basically was unwilling to admit it, even though, like, basically unless he presented her with the information, but she wasn't going to admit to it until he had her dead to rights. And he felt like that was particularly shady. Well, he felt like if you lying about, because he tells her the truth. Yeah. He's like, hey, I'm going to go to the hotel.

39:12I got two chicks. I might be back tomorrow. Later, I'll be back Monday. Let's start telling Lena shit like that. Hey, it's diabolical. I would never play those games with R &B ever in life. I think it would definitely be a crime scene. Should we kill you or at least attack you? If I ever just disappear and they can't find me, for sure, R &B definitely had it done. That's a fact. Yeah. I mean, but you can always kind of like push for more in your relationship and you could push for like extreme things like you know i could do what blue face has done and say hey lena if i'm going to continue to be in this relationship with you you're going to have to deal with me just like going off and like bang girls streaming girls like for days at a time while you take care of the kid and you know i think in her case she would almost certainly just like immediately tell me to fuck off um but you know you could always try to push for extreme terms in your relationship well i think the thing about it is those have always been his terms yeah he never really like lied along the way yeah no he never said it's just me and you yeah he's always said it's the service right uh hold on i want to oh basically attorney Rosenberg who is representing 4Xtra he posted on Instagram and said 4Xtra will be released.

40:54DA reject. Oh good shit. So Spodyface today on the news said that the DA has not formally filed charges yet either. Well maybe it was a premature arrest. Or an arrest. to get a warrant to catch him with something on him. Yeah, because you've seen the way they was pulling Spodeface over the other day, searching the whip, trying to find guns and shit. I was asking, is Spodeface still on probation or parole? Because if he's not, they've violated his rights, all of them. I don't know. I have no idea. He definitely knew how to handle that when he was verbally telling them, I don't give you consent.

41:41I think he needs to calm down once they pull him out. don't give him reason to you know unalive him and choke him out but he um I was telling myself somebody sent them at him because he was just sitting in the car bro that's the vibe you got from that video sitting in the car they didn't say he was swatting and they went to the extreme they never told him why they was pulling him over or asking him to get out. Somebody told them he was dirty or had something. They thought they had. Very interesting. I mean, Flacco said that he... Okay, Flacco said that the body for extra cot was during the 100 days, 100 nights thing in 2015.

42:39That's what Flacco said. but then we end up finding out that it's not even a body. It's an attempt. Well, you know, Flacco's lining up the area that the era of when this happened, when that happened, really that's the era of when the sixties and the forties was clashing. Right. Right. Had nothing to do in a hundred days, a hundred nights. But again, bro, he may want to open his eyes up because somebody's talking. if they're going to prison questioning Jay Hood's people about a body they're arresting you about a body your name's in the air right I would at some point he has to walk away bro I'm telling you you gotta walk away from the streets look Look, Adam, this is real shit.

43:41Everything about the streets is a gamble and a risk. When you go over there with your homies, you got to be a certain way. It's a gamble. The cops may come catch you. Gamble your ops may hit the block, catch you. It's a gamble of anything that could possibly happen will happen. And it's cool when you're young, dumb, and you're trying to make a name for yourself. But when you become a trophy, Four Extras is a trophy for the Rolling Forks. He's a guy that if a young dude just got put on, could unalive, he gets instant rep. Bro, trophies go on the shelves. In the case, you can't just sit it on the corner.

44:32there's nothing else 4X you could do but die or catch life posting and roaming the hood all the time bro there's nothing else you can't achieve success wealth you can't achieve none of those things in the ghetto as a gang member but hey he's a guy who loves this community he loves being amongst his people and I agree that it's short sighted because his community, as much as he might love it, has some very nasty aspects to it that will follow him specifically because of his past. I understand why he wants to spend time there and everything, but, I mean, that's the least of his worries right now since he's got this charge hanging over his head.

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45:19Yeah, well, at some point, bro, he got to wake up. Yeah. Nah, that's a fact. he gotta wake up I've been on 27 years bro and I've had at least 50-60 phone calls of what happened at the locations that I would have been at if I was just outside in the hood you missed out on a lot of good bang outs yo question explain the clip to me where you were like aggressively warning academics about his behavior. What exactly did academics do in his coverage of the Little Dirk trial that you felt was a little over the line? Well, he went on there and said, me and Little Dirk's interview was all scripted. Now, as soon as he did that, the defense attorney went into, we need to include this clip of academics saying these things because you guys included this clip of what Lil Durk said.

46:37You don't hear nobody saying Sly Favon anymore. Right? Act saying it was scripted, and I'm telling Act, they will use that for grounds for appeal. And if they do, they're going to summon you, subpoena you, to come get on the stand. right now at this point in time are you gonna say yes it was scripted and would be potentially telling a lie or are you gonna get up there and say i was just trolling right if you get up there and lie now you're putting yourself in a situation where they can find you you know that you're lying on the stand and book you. Now you go to prison. So why play with him? Right.

47:30Look, fuck what Lil Durk got going on. I tell people about this, but with you, if Adam asks you a question that you think is outrageous and incriminating, just look at it. I remember you had a guest, X4. Everything you ask X4 about anything, had anything to do with anything, he would just look at you he wouldn't even answer it he's a shooter if you choose to answer that that ain't on adam to go clean it up bro think about how fucked up that is though that like x4 and four extra could both end up doing lengthy sentences for these things so it's like for a moment there it felt like the 40s was just up about to have this moment they had two trophies with like kind of almost the same name and then all of a sudden nope sorry bro again look bro when you got some type of business going you have to remove yourself from that bro I'm sorry to the streets of LA the labels don't care about your street cred and how many homies is out of video really they looking at that now like it's a liability.

48:49You have to step away from that shit. If you got something going on for yourself, you can't open up a podcast, have a building and it's moving and then you telling all the homies come congregate here. Yeah. Can't do it. Nah, facts. How are you feeling about the Dirk verdict at this moment given that we're almost at the end of day three of the jury's deliberations. How are you feeling about how this is going to go? The longer it goes, the more favorable it is for Dirk. Right. KPD, they was in there an hour and a half, two hours. Yeah. They're back there going back and forth. It's one or a group of people who ain't buying it.

49:41Right. It's in favor. If they make the weekend, I think he's going to walk. Yeah, because a mistrial is pretty uncommon in the feds. It's like about 2 % of the time will a mistrial actually take place. But it's hard to imagine that they're all in there and that they're in any sort of agreement. If everybody was leaning towards guilty, they'd already be back. It's like there's got to be people holding out. will those people be able to be convinced one way or the other? I mean, it's tough, but as of right now... What's going on is you have a group of people who's saying he's guilty. How I know is they're asking the judge for documents.

50:27This group of people is saying no. This is what they're saying. They're saying, we don't remember that. Okay, we're going to get that to try to show them the reason why they're saying guilty. I think it's going to be a hung. If he makes the weekend, if those people don't come back today, for sure hung jury, they're not going to find him guilty. Right. And the judge, the judge, bro, the judge is, what he's saying is in favor of Dirk. Paying for plane tickets, paying for a hotel room and a rental car is not enough to say it's murder for hire. If Quando Rondo was not in fear because he knew he was being stalked, there's not a stalking case there.

51:23Now, what they do have is a text message where Quando said, let's kill the beef, and Dirk saying, we can do that with this switch. They can use that. They got the witnesses up there with text messages and phone calls saying what type of performance they're going to get. They also got this dude, Didi, who has his own, or Vonnie, who has his own personal reasons to want to unalive this dude because King Von was his homie. Jam don't even know King Von, but Jam, he looking like he's running a play too and he's putting out Twitter messages and all this crazy stuff. nobody's credible, and the judge made it clear.

52:11If these things aren't in place, if you can't show a paper trail of paying for the murder, it's not murder for hire. And for them to be back there a couple days, and if they go the weekend, I don't think the bird is coming in until Tuesday, Wednesday. They would have came back today already, after lunch. Okay, my question though is A lot of people seem to think that if he does Somehow beat these charges That he will then have Either the feds come back About additional murders that they'd like To charge him with or state Charges in Chicago Specifically there's a Stefan Mack Murder that took place that People seem to think that they would be able to make A pretty good case that Dirk was responsible For that Is that commonplace that they would lose and already have a plan ready to go for other stuff that they could charge you for?

53:08The internet and the people, they don't know shit about these other murders. The feds didn't even know shit about a lot of this until Jam, stupid ass, who was looking at three to fives, told them. Right. They wasn't even investigating. They wasn't investigating it like that, right? So to say they know about all these other murders all of a sudden, right? And they got all these facts and details. They're going to be real skeptical on charging him with some things that they just don't have an ironclad case on. It's a slap in the face that they're deliberating like this because the federal government allowed the AUSA to bring the charges.

54:02and by the way it looks and what we've seen here Trap Lord and Seti Nash come out and report on it was a lot of wobblers in there bro. It wasn't as ironclad as we thought it was. The Stefan Mack thing specifically though police have already federal investigators have already publicly tied Lil Durk to their theory of that homicide he was killed in December or in January 2022 in an FBI search warrant affidavit. Investigators allege that after Dirk's brother, Dante Banks Jr., was killed, Dirk was offering money to have gangster disciples killed. Prosecutors have also cited communication between suspects in Max Killing that allegedly referenced Dirk and OTF.

54:48Dirk has not been charged, and his attorneys have denied involvement. Okay, listen. Everybody knows his brother got killed. Everybody knows possible it could have went this way. Do they have the killers? Two other men have already been charged in connection with his killing. Have these men finger Dirk? That we do not know, and you would think that they would probably be keeping that information close to their chest at this time if they did have that. I think his ass would already have been out of charge. You get what I'm saying? Because guess what? know what that does for dunk in LA for a jury to see you not only have these charges or Beverly Hills hit but you got pending murder charges in Chicago but they would probably try them separately because this one in LA with Kwon Dorando and Lopat that was such a specific thing right like why try those together it's not try them together it's the whole perception of you got a murder charge here in LA from Beverly Hills.

55:58Right. And you got a pending murder charge here in Chicago. The juror starts looking at this dude like he's the, why wouldn't they put the charge there? Right. Right. Okay. You get what I'm saying? Yeah. So, you know, from what I knew, Chicago said they wasn't pursuing it. So we're going to see if he got a hung jury here. and that doesn't happen there. It's kind of like Big U with his murder charge. Right. You get what I'm saying? You see, they said he is being charged with his murder. They want it on the table. It feels so cheap with all these mistrials, like the Lindsey Clancy situation, mistrial.

56:47YNW Melly a couple years ago, mistrial. if this one is a mistrial I'm going to be pissed I want a conclusive ending to these stories not to just have these people be locked up for a couple decades so they can try it two or three times Yawan W. Miller he's had two mistrials right? I think only one he's been in there like nine years bro yeah eight years something like that yeah it's terrible he was like one of the great talents of the SoundCloud era and we were never able to see what he could really make of his potential. Especially at the time that he got locked up, he had just had the crazy Kanye West collab that really signified that his career was going to be taken to the next level and then nothing.

57:32Oh, we lost him? RIP whack. The feds got him. The feds did a sweep.

57:43Huh? Are you serious?

57:50Shut up. Dirk not guilty.

58:00No way.

58:05There you go. Bro. Academics just announced not guilty for Dirk. That's what it, no. That's what it came back? or just what he's saying I just want to I just want to confirm but I guess that's what Axe is saying right now everybody's calling me from Chicago oh okay look Megan Cuniff said what's it say it says we can't go in yet because we are waiting for the security officer who will wand us off well okay so I guess they have a verdict maybe The cargo is blowing my phone up right now. I don't know why people think that it's not guilty, though. I haven't actually. Okay, but the verdict is in. Academics tweeted, the verdict is in.

58:54We will know in five minutes. No, they don't know yet. Let me see what they just texted me. Everybody's posting saying that there is a verdict. They said everyone not guilty.

59:14This girl said 10 minutes ago, she said, it's looking like we will not have a verdict today, which means deliberations would continue on Monday, but I guess that's not true. Damn, this is insane that we're going to know in like minutes. And here goes this crease, everywhere not guilty. Yeah, I've seen a ton of people say that, but I'm just a little worried that we're jumping the gun. Some people are saying that it's not guilty. Some people are saying that it's just that the verdict's in. Yeah, like Trappler Ross said, looks like the verdict's in. Lawyer's rushing to the court and everyone is lining up.

59:57Wow. So it's not in. So right now we are at a moment in time where we could potentially find some crazy shit out. Well, I guess either way we're going to find some crazy shit out because I guess we're probably going to have the verdict in like five minutes. but I need you to keep an eye on it so I don't have to be just staring at it the whole time. Yeah, my phone's going nuts. Everybody's saying not guilty. I feel like they might be being overly optimistic. Well, be real. If Dirk comes back not guilty and walks at him, I know this sounds crazy. I think him being free for the last two and a half, three years, is not i think him being locked up fighting this is gonna make him a bigger artist than he would have if he had been free yeah i mean honestly you know what i'm saying even even just him becoming the biggest drill artist of all time and then going down for murder for hire that's legendary shit regardless of what happens that's like one of the craziest stories in hip-hop history if he beats it he is immortalized as just an icon for having beat the feds like I mean they still talk the way they talk about Irv Gotti when he dies one of the first things they say about him is he took the feds on and he won that's so iconic especially given how much evidence how many people snitched think about how many people snitched and weren't able to take him down if it's actually not guilty it's going to be kind of ironic if it is guilty.

1:01:38I think, I really think this situation happening will make him bigger than he would have been if he would have never been arrested and just had been home doing his regular little dirt shit. Yeah, I mean, to a certain extent, he was a regular rapper before this. After this, it's like he's a rapper who survived the craziest shit. This is what I'm saying. With, look, with urban music on the decline the way it has been is kind of like if he gets to not guilty his trials and tribulations saved him from getting caught up in that drop a album only doing 30k, 20k to where yeah you're locked up, you went through some things you had great friends, Drake, Kanye, people like that come help you with your lawyer fees you had great support and now you're coming home to where i think the doors of opportunity gonna be plentiful that is unless they end up putting more charges on him but yeah assuming he keeps his legal situation good for sure he could be a crazy they're gonna be very skeptical about playing with him with charges with hearsay with a little dude over here who really didn't talk to him but another dude talked to him said tight shit.

1:03:08They're not going to play with him like that because if he goes in for a second one, one, I think they'll give him a bail on his next one. Two, if he beats the government back to back because they're choosing to utilize information because they're that thirsty, it won't be good. For sure. But again, the longer they go, the more in favor it is of dirt. The streets are saying not guilty. The verdict's not in. I think hung jury. That's what you think? I don't think it's the not guilty across the board. I think it would have taken longer to really arrive at a hung jury. Like three days? I don't know.

1:03:54Bro, it's obviously somebody been back there not seeing it their way. They're requesting shit from the judge and documents. and I think with the hung jury you know maybe they give him a bond I mean they didn't do it for Melly but he's in the state he's not dealing with the feds I mean even if he was on house arrest the idea of Dirk just being able to record music would be insane what do you think what you think I've said the whole time I think he's guilty I think they're going to find him guilty I mean, I don't know. It's still just hard for me to imagine a bunch of normal people on the jury looking at all these people snitching on Dirk and not going for it.

1:04:40But, hey, I don't wish jail upon him at all. I hope he makes it out.

1:04:47Yeah, I think, listen, man, everybody was playing a part. I even hear Lil Pop was saying some disrespectful shit, you know, about things that was going on. Oh yeah, they were smoking on Vaughn. Yeah, my feelings about being remorseful for people that's playing parts and shit, you ain't going to get that from me at all. You know what I'm saying? I would love to see the look on Mama Duck's face if he's not guilty. Oh my God. Worst day ever if you're Mama Duck. Bro. if you want what he needs to do go turn into a chicken that's the fact you don't even know throughout Chicago drill history it's been so one sided where the BD's which is Chief Keef Lil Durk, King Vaughn, etc have just been basically like the only Chicago drill rappers to experience any kind of mainstream success besides a glimmer of hope with fbg duck who then obviously got killed like kind of at the height of his popularity but like the bds already just seem like they've got kind of got a horseshoe up their ass and by that i mean they're just lucky there's chosen the chosen gang if Lil Durk can beat the feds come on now that's crazy Lil Durk and Chief Keefe how's their relationship I really didn't keep my way bad historically but allegedly they were kind of getting cool and everything around the time that Dirk got locked up but then also after Dirk got locked up there was rumors of Chief Keefe saying this and that that was disrespectful about Lil Durk So it's kind of up in the air.

1:06:48Do you want to hit another topic or two while we kind of wait for the verdict to come in? Yeah, we definitely got to get this verdict, bro. We got to get this verdict. I'll tell you what. This shit out here, this Blue Girls Club kick stream. Oh, yeah. Hey, bro. These are some crazy ass women. You in the house, I would sit back and just watch your expressions. is ass and titties everywhere they fighting arguing one minute these three clicked up the next minute she's throwing her out the room this shit is crazy blue face is hugging and loving and I'll be trying to fuck them honestly I mean they don't give a fuck they're indifferent about sex with random men wow sounds like my types bro now it's like it was eight of them went to nine back to eight two more flew in last night things up up to 11 12 what's the goal is the goal to find one and turn her into a star is the goal for him to fall in love with one of them what's the goal no we want to find one and turn into a streamer a streamer okay yeah we don't want to do the rapper shit no more that's just you know hip-hop is i hate to say hip-hop's dead rap music is still alive but the hip-hop element of what we knew that to be nobody gives a about the foundation of it the structure of it to whatever of it there no nobody cares we're in a whole new world now we're in the the tick tock age and yeah you might you know if we we all have foundational memories obviously i come in the game a little bit more on the tail end of it but we had this whole era where everybody was just worshiping the rappers who were the best rappers and everybody out there you'll be doing yourself a service if you realize that that era is over.

1:09:04Yo, this new song I forget the name of it it's a rapper, he comes in no jumper but it's like some white boy shit they playing in the club, everybody goes crazy What's it called? The AI song, Phoenix Flexin? Yeah, it's the AI song Right? Shout out to you for finding out about this right now This is what I'm saying and I think me and you kind of went back and forth about this shit I'm like Adam, it ain't nothing I want So Cuban Rob has about 100 AI songs that smashes, but he really goes in and doesn't. And then whatever the fuck he does with the AI he does. But, bro, I'm in the clubs out here. This shit's been in all night.

1:09:49For real? I felt like this thing was kind of done. They're going nuts. And I'm like, I was just telling Adam, bro, if they like this song they don't give a fuck where it comes this is why the hip hop element of who you are and your style and your this and that they don't give a fuck about that there's a great song you should check out too called We Are Charlie Kirk Charlie Kirk? it goes like this We are Charlie Kirk We carry the flame I like Charlie Kirk you know why because he hated black people all the Kirk is the white crip or blood Charlie Kirk was probably killed by his own for what he stood for I think he was killed by a liberal right look bro I bet he was killed by a white guy uh yeah but like a white guy who's like ideologically opposed to everything that he was about i think cripping in blood

1:11:00you get what i'm saying a russian or maybe a black dude or mexican or asian different this is a dude who still and i wouldn't because he lets you know exactly who he is i like people like that he's letting you know who he is bro whether you like it or not you know what you're dealing with and guess what that was one aspect of it was probably other aspects that you could have did some business with him right i'm not going to hold that against him because none of us are the same but he was killed putting in his work by his own people from the opposite side poses high cripping blood same shit he's a representation of that when it comes to your people at him thank you for that insight yo uh what's up with this journalist kid did not who uh why why are you beefing with him it's d-a-n-a-t if anybody wants to look it up look and this is why this is funny he's from clubhouse okay they're not comes from clubhouse he got ran off of clubhouse about two years ago, and he went to YouTube.

1:12:18Why'd they run him off? He got clothes for being gay. They found videos of him banging this old white dude that had hemorrhoids. Allegedly. No, no, allegedly. They got the videos. I can have R &B call the clubhouse ladies. They will send you the videos. And this was crazy. Ain't no, what they call this shit, people bring charges because you're sharing this is on the internet dumbass you can't say oh man you're threatening me with this no you put this on the internet it's the site you can pay for it they're not is an openly gay dude he got exposed so he wasn't openly gay at one point no not at one point he wasn't and then it came out and then the more it came out they start digging and digging on the dark side in the trenches side the clubhouse not the hunter side and they found the videos of him banging an old white dude no exaggeration hemorrhoids out his ass and they said he's banging him wrong i'm gonna get you the videos bro i swear no lie i would love that i would love to have that on my phone where but so a man banging like a hemorrhoid butthole sounds crazy bro he got him on his back legs back so the ladies are saying you can see what his rotom sack is and you can see what the other shit is and they're not standing there you can see full body did not penetrate the dude so So what's crazy about that is that I'm assuming he was still in the closet in 2022, right?

1:14:02He was out. Well, he was out. They had already found some other shit on him. And that's from Florida, like a classic city, Florida, little small town, not too many people. But look, he was a great person. He's out of here on Clubhouse. He talked his shit so much, he threatened the owners of Clubhouse, so they kicked him off. wow because okay so for people at home who are kind of confused why we're talking about this random like wannabe online journalist kid he basically dm'd me like whack was beefing with him i see his account i click on it i see that it says he follows me i click to see if we ever had any dms and we did a whole post on the no jumper instagram account but basically this guy did not had like dm'd me multiple times over the years on twitter and instagram telling me that he wanted to F me in my big fat ass.

1:14:56He wanted to bang you. And he's listed. Crazy. He's a predator like that when it comes to men because on Clubhouse, he used to say shit to men that was crazy like so people wouldn't even go on his face. Look, he's good at talking shit. I've tried to help him a gang of times. I let him interview Chris Shining Blueface for the first time in his life on Clubhouse, but he couldn't cut it. Christiane want to talk to him no more I had to get him on stage but I think bro he's just and what I don't like about him he plays this tough shit but then he runs I'm going to call the cops there's some diabolical shit going on in the world beware these dudes that are super tough but the first thing out they mouth Lush is one of them I'm going to report shit but wasn't this guy one of your booty goons at one point you would actually send him to fight other gay people no i'll never uh no i trolled with him with academics one time oh yeah you said you were gonna have him go uh fight saucy santana for you yeah i was just trolling i mean i've never seen to not fight him will he fight i think he'll fight i don't think the dude's a punk or nothing like that i think he's overly emotional but he's a gay dude is not in control of his emotions.

1:16:18He's not one of those dudes. He's not a Jason leader where he's a gay dude that's a man. You're not going to get a rise out of Jason like that. This dude, I think he's still kind of not confused. He knows he's... Now he is because he came out calling me gay. And I'm like, bro, what do you mean I'm gay? You're the fucking gay one. And when I said it in there, did you forget they have the videos of you banging an old white dude with hemorrhoids it's you oh this is uh you're threatening me no dummy it's already up on the internet they brought it yeah sold it what are you talking about the weird part was that he was he was saying that he was gonna sue me for exposing my private conversation with him which i never even opened the dm it was just you telling me that you wanted to bang me how are you gonna sue me for exposing your weird little fantasies that you're having in my dms and but for the record this is not something that happens to me a lot once in a while i'll look at my dms and see some gay dude saying some horny stuff to me but that doesn't happen that much i was pretty shocked to see it in there yeah bro i would like when you when you when i when you showed it to me i'm like yeah that's him um you know you got you got a few gay dudes that's on the clubhouse like Stevie Nunez who did not run from guys like him because they pack him up.

1:17:45Now it's gay for gay. You know with us, you get to say it too much. We kind of, ah, we get away from you. With them, you can't use the gay toolbox over because they're gay. Right. He runs from those type of dudes but the straight people, he'll come in their face and say a bunch of egregious shit and then when we strike back the way we do strike back then it's i'm calling the cops i'll make you text me i'm making a police report i don't give a fuck what kind of reports you make against me little dummy then he's on the thing threatening the he calling the police on trap lord walsh here i know it's pretty funny how he like tried to do the clubhouse thing didn't really work out i got banned and then And he tried to reinvent himself as a court reporter, but then he got exposed for actually being like a really, really horny, creepy, like, I don't want to say rapist, but like the messages kind of felt like, like, dude, I'm straight.

1:18:45Are you like, you're kind of sort of like threatening me. You're going to take my cheeks, I guess. I don't know. And not only that, first he went to YouTube, didn't work. He tried to become a pro-Christian. Then he went to Justice for Ronnie. that didn't work. Now he says, okay, I see Trap Lord Ross down there. He showed up to a Ray J court date, tried to show up to some Blueface court dates. Dude was so filthy. I realized he was sleeping in his car when I seen the trash bags full of clothes. Like he has a little bitty Mercedes that I've never seen, like a two-door, I don't even know what it is.

1:19:24Maybe he put the Mercedes badges as a Toyota. I don't know what it is, but he was so insane. stinky. The damn bailiff dude blocked him from coming to the court. Down at Van Nuys Court. He was spunky. You know you see a dude and he looks grimy. He kind of looks like, you know, it's been a couple days and the underarm part of the shirt is kind of slouching and you know, sleepy in his eyes. But the bailiff was like, bro, you can't come in here, bro. You gotta go get the hygiene right. And then now I seen him pop up. First he was in regular clothes. he see Traplore coming in the suit and tie. I look up a couple days later, he has on the suit and tie.

1:20:06It's hilarious, bro. It's like he always tries too late. He's the last one to the party and everybody's leaving. Traplore is an icon out here, man. He's showing all these court reporters how to do it. That's the fact. Look, and I got to give a tip to Seti Nash too. Seti did his shit. And I think Traplore acknowledged that, so we kind of hooked up with him. They get a sit-out thing, but they got the track because he let us know what was really going on in the court building, bro. Yeah, he put it together in nice bite-sized chunks. Yo, according to my team, the jury, or excuse me, all non-family members have been removed from the courtroom at this time.

1:20:48I don't know if that means that they're about to read the verdict just to the family and the people who are charged. That means the verdict hasn't come in. Kiddo Curry, I know Dirk is your man. You love him to death. You didn't text me 10 times talking about all of them not guilty. I hope he's not guilty. The verdict's not in yet, brother. This is what the streets do. I think the verdict is there. Friends, friends, you jump on the line. They prioritized all family members to go in first. They prioritized all family members to go in first. But wait, you don't think there is a verdict? Have they been misled?

1:21:24Oh, there is. There is a verdict. They got a verdict. I don't think they read it. Yeah, not yet. So that means they're going to let family members in to assure all the other guys who shouldn't be there aren't taking their seats and family members not left outside. You know what the weird thing about this is that if he is found not guilty, he is going to be viewed as some sort of like prophet of peace and Islam. and in reality he will still have been a guy who ordered murders but he's going to somehow become an icon of peace he's going to be the black John Gotti remember John getting charged and beating the fans in a bunch of serious cases he's going to be his next album should be Mr.

1:22:24Untouchable yeah no something like that for show uh the teflon don um anyway the teflon karan um anyway so a big update for the people out there we covered last week i believe about how nori and vlad are at each other's throats after years of being cool vlad had a very viral appearance on drink champs but now they they are not cool and it's all because nori was basically giving vlad had the runaround for years and years not going on Vlad TV. This was very, very upsetting to Vlad. So they've been going at it, going back and forth. Nori tried to call him a racist, et cetera. It really felt like publicly the tide of public opinion was on Vlad's side, which was kind of surprising just because I think when you think about who's like the more beloved hip-hop figure, I would have always thought that it would have been Nori.

1:23:25But it feels like Vlad just had a more logical argument and people ended up kind of having the same reaction I had, which was like, wow, Nori looks fake. Nori looks like he's like a person that doesn't have the balls to say what he really thinks to somebody and will just give him the runaround. Well, in the midst of all that, in the midst of Vlad publicly talking shit about Nori and Nori publicly talking shit about Vlad, all of a sudden, Vlad gets hit, or excuse me, Nori gets hit with a lawsuit from I believe 1999 from Nas's ex well Nas's baby mama claiming that Nori sexually violated her in 1999 we could read through the article if you really want to get the details right but basically allegedly he was at a party tried to like you know Nori tried to like put his hand up her dress or something like that and then she runs outside he ends up kind of chasing her down and he ends up realizing that this is Nas' baby mama or Nas' ex-girlfriend or whatever.

1:24:28This woman, Vlad actually interviewed her before. And this woman was at the time dating both Nas and Jay-Z. And apparently Jay-Z was so upset about this story about Nori allegedly fingering her or touching her inappropriately that Jay-Z wanted to go do something violent to Nori and she actually convinced him to leave it alone. Insane story. Is that true? Because Vlad starts saying he was trolling. Okay, Vlad did a video responding to this and when you're watching the video he starts describing how when he interviewed this girl that she shared a whole story about Nori sexually assaulting her and Vlad says that he took it out the interview but he secretly kept it and I'm watching this just thinking Vlad what is wrong with you like you're a terrible person if you secretly kept the recording of this woman uh speaking about Nori saying that he sexually assaulted her and you're gonna now release it I'm like Vlad what is wrong with you and then at the end of it Vlad's like I'm just kidding that was a joke I didn't really do that and I was like oh okay you got me yeah if he would to let that flow bro and i told nori's brother i talked to nori and i talked to nori's brother nori's brother was totally against nori saying anything about the women even mentioning black women right he said because i'm mad about it but i can't be because my brother initiated that I'm like this, Nori my guy but fucking Nori if you told Vlad come out here to Miami, do drink champs and then in turn I'm going to do one for you and a couple years went by one or two, five different times where you're telling them I'll be there this day whatever, whatever and you're no showing or changing at some point bro the man's going to get irritated and then when he got irritated and text you about it you use that to say well you i'm not doing it right you see what i'm saying but the weird thing is is that nori thought because like when you that account is basically like how to be a bad person 101 lead people on don't keep it real with people be dishonest be kind of a snake and nori basically like explained how that is exactly what he did but he thought that people were still going to side with him because a i think that if you're nori you're just used to being kind of the cool guy the popular guy that people like and i don't know but also like nori thought that by calling vlad a racist for with seemingly like no evidence that that was going to be like a kill shot and the truth is is that just calling a white person racist doesn't really hit the way it used to unless you've got some sort of specific details Vlad has two black children with one on the way.

1:27:30Yeah. He chose to cross his bloodline, his Jewish bloodline, with a black woman twice. Yeah. I mean, he openly always talks about it, like basically only has ever dated women of color. You know, calling them racist, you got to come with the specifics. I didn't get the... Yo, try not putting black people up. Try not putting black people up on your site. It's like, bro, that's like telling Spotify, delete your urban section. Right. Like, bro, like, I don't know. Nori, my God. Love him to death. Nori, I'm in Miami. I need to come see your ass face to face. We got some other things we're supposed to talk about anyway.

1:28:26But I just think he dealt with this wrong. I think if he told Vlad to come out here and I'll come do your show, you obligated to that as a man. You come and stand Rick Ross and Coach of Vulture and all these things in 2026 as if you didn't sit down with him in 2015, 2017, 2024, where Rick Ross shit happened in 2007 or 2008. is like, no, bro, Nori, this ain't you. Like, just say, look, bro, my scheduling was fucked up. Maybe I was doing some other things. Because, look, Nori has told me he's coming to do our show. So I know Nori, though. I'm going to run into him at the hotel in Beverly Hills like I always do.

1:29:16Why I ain't forgot about you? You know I'm going to come. That's Nori. But for Vlad, he spent$8 ,000 to$10 ,000. and he ain't lying first class tickets 3 000 sweet after rich i'm in a very large suite right now this motherfuckers huge right right i know what this shit costs right it's not the holiday inn in glendale yeah black car all this security whatever you got going on i mean bro lord you my god love you to death but in this situation you wrong bro if you would have just did what you agreed to we wouldn't be in this space right now yeah and i mean i just don't understand uh how he thought that he was going to come off as the good guy in that whole exchange i mean do you feel like this lawsuit from this woman which granted 1999 27 years ago i guess there are witnesses but there's probably not going to be any kind of physical evidence um i mean is it likely to go anywhere it's not like he are money mode it's not like he graped her you know no bullshit her description of it right okay digital penetration yeah that ain't digital nigga what you mean digits means fingers too it's physical god damn it okay so digital you know what he's talking about i i think it's a money move but nori as cocky as nori is nori gonna take her to the box he ain't settling he ain't whatever the attorney's gonna cost him gonna cost him he ain't gonna say i can settle for 150 grand and keep paying a million she accusing him of this i think nori's gonna take it to the box do i believe he did it he that ain't nori ain't that type of guy for the record taking it to the taking it to the box is exactly what got him in this problem.

1:31:25Yeah, but I don't – Nori's not the type of guy to ever have had to be aggressive. He's always had his options of women. Whatever you are, he had some of those if he needed that. Like, I don't – I can't see Nori. Unless you're telling me he's drunk, high out of his mind, both of y 'all on that, y 'all flirting, and some touchy, touchy, feely, feely started, and then maybe in the morning you wake up and think about it and like that okay maybe but even then it's consensual well to be fair it's not like r kelly would have had a hard time fucking lots of adult women it's not like bill cosby would have had a hard time fucking women without drugging them you know it's like it is it is a crime that happens regardless of uh if the person needs to listen r kelly didn't hide who he was you would see him they just wouldn't leave and the one girl they told him she was 19 when he found out she was 17 he sent her ass back i forgot to never never mention r kelly around whack he didn't know that he was texting the mother and father right after we was cutting you know so and i don't know what the thing is in in in chicago is it 18 or 16 17 i don't know but that's flocco what is it is it 16 17 i don't know but some people have made the point that flocco seemingly knows the uh aging consent like every u.s state i mean i know it's 30 plus states to 16.

1:33:06it's less states 18. i know new york is 17 Philly 16, Nevada Jersey 16 right? Hey in the words of Jay-Z only 21 and older let another N-word molder well Jay-Z can't say that because he was dealing with Beyonce that is a good point that is a very relevant point you know what I'm saying he can't Beyonce was not 21 yet that is a good point and I always I was like probably in high school when I heard that lyric and I remember thinking like you're really telling me that once you're like 30 you can't go below 21 like that seems kind of unfair you can go to 18 i know but like jay-z's saying like 21 and older i'm like all right all right guys you know you hey listen to each his own i'll tell i look i've seen the pastor 68 tell his congregation my first lady is 18 and you better respect it you gotta stand on something hey I'm gonna go monitor this Dirk verdict so that I can make a video as soon as it drops but it was great talking to you and you gotta come out to Miami how many more weeks you gonna be there I know he's leaving he's here to the 28th I'm probably gonna be back before then that's 17 days I would like to come out there if not you can come out for R &B's birthday party Halloween mean we're going up in too i need to be surrounded by a beautiful black woman right now you need to come out i'm telling you you should go over there you should give me a night with rmb to to help me get over lena hey listen hey that rmb thing is something special did you see the big ass ring she got she got you a ring bro crazy got me a ring it's nuts wow that's cool yeah I think academics might have posted the ring.

1:35:05But matter of fact, he's actually over there asshole naked right now. But we don't want to get a censor. Here it goes, brother. Let's see the ring. This ring is nuts. Ring, ding, dong. Ring, ding, ding. Whoa. Popping champagne like I won a championship game. Opens up in the front. Crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Lena. why you ain't got Adam one at all exactly you see what I'm you all just complaining I got a bulletproof vest shirt on and I can't get a ring hey bro hey free dirt let's see what happens I believe it's a hundred jury if he comes back not guilty across the board I'm gonna be shot I would like to make an announcement if Dirk beats his charge I would like to offer him one million dollars to do a scene on plug talk Adam will really play that pay that shit too.

1:36:01I don't think this woman's going for it, but we'll see. Well, Lena is single now, so who knows? We out. Wack 100, appreciate y 'all. Everybody like the video and drop a comment. Bang! Appreciate you, Wack.

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