600Breezy on The Lil Durk Trial, OTF Jam, King Yella Going Broke & More

28 Sep 2026 · 2 h 10 min · 49 chapters

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In short

600Breezy discusses his recent arrest after leaving Los Angeles, his weed-related RICO case and sentencing, and then gives his views on the Lil Durk federal trial—especially the credibility of witnesses who claim Durk ordered a murder-for-hire. He also comments on OTF vs O-Block dynamics, the “Chicago wave” alliances, and the role of OTF affiliates mentioned in court (including OTF Jam, Memo, and Doody Lo).

Guest backgrounds

600Breezy is a Chicago-area rapper associated with the 600Breezy/600 Gang world. He describes prior parole and multiple incarcerations, and says he was arrested by U.S. Marshals after a Pennsylvania weed case tied to pop-up sales. The host is No Jumper’s Remo (interviewer).

Key claims

  1. Breezy says he was targeted because his pop-up weed sales were illegal in Pennsylvania, with undercover buyers and video evidence; he received about 1–2 years and did time in county (not prison).
  2. He argues the Lil Durk case lacks “dead-to-rights” direct evidence like proof of payment or concrete coordination.
  3. He criticizes “snitching” and says witness stories contradict and don’t add up.
  4. He claims OTF Jam and others are “throwing people under the bus,” and he frames the trial as a broader inter-camp conflict (OTF vs O-Block vs 600).

Notable examples

  • He compares his weed sentence to other high-profile cases he saw in jail (Bill Cosby and Dante Mills mentioned).
  • He references a group-chat/text-message claim as the closest “concrete” evidence (Durk allegedly texting “he still counts”).
  • He describes Doody Lo being mentioned in court but still outside supporting Durk.

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Chapters

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600Breezy's Recent Arrest Experience

0:15 to 1:46

600Breezy shares his experience of being arrested shortly after the last interview.

“They swear y 'all got me locked up last night.”

Legal Troubles and Charges

1:46 to 3:26

Discussion on the legal troubles faced by 600Breezy and the charges related to marijuana.

“my neighbors and shit, they was recording and shit.”

The Impact of County Jail

3:26 to 4:38

600Breezy discusses his experiences in county jail versus prison.

“Because you don't get as many privileges as being in an actual prison.”

Lessons Learned from Legal Issues

4:38 to 6:12

Insights gained from 600Breezy's experiences with the law and marijuana legality.

“I said, I'm pleading guilty to what I did.”

Street Life and Choices

6:12 to 8:07

Exploration of the choices made within street life and the consequences of those decisions.

“So, they was telling them, all Breezy bringing weed from over here to over here.”

Discussion on Jim and Snitching

8:07 to 10:30

600Breezy talks about Jim's situation regarding snitching and the implications of such actions.

“Like he's still fighting, so I can't speak on too much bro shit.”

The Complexities of Gang Life

10:30 to 14:01

A deep dive into the complexities of gang life and betrayal in the streets.

“Where would you even know him from anyway?”

Analyzing the Dirk Case

14:01 to 18:13

Discusses the lack of concrete evidence in the Dirk trial and implications of testimonies.

“people testifying but there's nothing like concretely tying into it no concrete evidence because for a murder for hire, how was there a murder for hire if nobody got paid?”

Mimo's Involvement in Court

18:14 to 20:04

Examination of Mimo's actions post-King Von's death and implications of his decisions.

“Keith ain't finna come back and fuck with niggas that he don't fuck with no more.”

The Impact of Snitching in the Community

20:05 to 22:29

Discusses the repercussions of snitching within the Chicago rap community and personal reflections.

“and Memo is one of the people that he followed.”
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Inter-Gang Dynamics and Relationships

22:30 to 28:00

Explores the relationships and animosities between OTF, O-Block, and 600, and how they shape the scene.

“Little do people know it was OTF affiliates behind the scenes kind of telling niggas like, yo, Jam, that nigga all bad.”

The Evolution of Chicago's Street Politics

28:00 to 30:46

Explore the complex relationships and evolving dynamics within Chicago's street culture and how they relate to the current situation.

“and say all these niggas won't do nothing for them so he's got that no he just He grabbed niggas.”

Dirk's Alleged Promises and Street Loyalty

30:46 to 33:19

Discussing the claims that Lil Durk promised money for actions taken and the ramifications of unpaid obligations in street culture.

“He probably pulled niggas in and looked at him like, man, I supposed to be in his position.”

Understanding the Legal Implications

33:19 to 35:34

Analyzing the legal charges against Durk and the implications of witness testimonies in his trial.

“I'm not saying it's right, but it's like, how the fuck the nigga only get 10 bands out of the whole shit?”

Character and Reputation in the Face of Accusations

35:34 to 42:00

Examining how past actions and community perceptions shape the narrative around individuals involved in legal troubles.

“If Dirk didn't have money like that, then he wouldn't be able to be this leader for everybody.”

Discussion on Didi's Legal Situation

42:00 to 43:54

Learn about Didi's past legal battles and the implications of his current situation.

“You know, Didi just beats murders and shit like that and came home.”

Doody Low's Controversial Role

43:54 to 46:01

Explore the conflicting opinions on Doody Low's involvement in the ongoing trial.

“All right, so, yeah, there's been a lot going on.”

Conspirator Number Four Debate

46:01 to 48:19

Delve into the confusion surrounding the identity and status of conspirator number four.

“brought up in court and he's still out there passing out shirts and still being able to sit in front of the trial?”

The Reality of Snitching

48:19 to 52:51

Discuss the consequences of being labeled a snitch and the realities faced by informants.

“There's no way that you get out of that.”

Jim's Disturbing Behavior

52:51 to 56:00

Analyze Jim's actions during the trial and their implications for his character.

“Like, I only seen that shit in movies and shit.”

The Struggles of Fatherhood After Jail

56:00 to 56:51

Discussion on the challenges faced by individuals released from jail, especially regarding family relationships.

“Something happened with him, but he different, bro.”

The Pressure on Lil Durk

56:51 to 58:44

Exploring the pressures Lil Durk faces from the streets and the media narrative around him.

“When he got out, that's what he supposed to shit.”

Trapler Ross and His Coverage

58:44 to 1:00:36

Analyzing Trapler Ross's controversial coverage and the implications of his statements during the trial.

“He's sitting in, well, he from London, right?”

Clarifying Misunderstandings in Media Reporting

1:00:36 to 1:04:08

Discussion on how miscommunications can lead to backlash against media personalities covering high-profile cases.

“It's blaming him, but it read as Lil Durk is blaming him.”

Doody Low and India Relationship Dynamics

1:04:08 to 1:06:56

Examining the dynamics between Doody Low and India in light of ongoing trials and familial relationships.

“I'm telling my people and my fans, relax.”

Generational Perspectives on Chicago Conflict

1:06:56 to 1:10:00

Reflecting on the generational gap in perspectives towards conflicts and rivalries in Chicago.

“She's going to blame the bad influences around him.”

Understanding Chicago's Streets and Violence

1:10:00 to 1:13:48

Explore the complexities and connections within Chicago's neighborhoods and the impact of violence.

“Y 'all seen a lot of niggas done sat in front of y 'all and they make it back.”

The Impact of Loss in the 600

1:13:48 to 1:17:29

Discuss the personal losses and resilience within the 600 community and its members.

“But it's like, bro, them, I doubt because they still outside.”

Grove Hero and Street Altercations

1:17:29 to 1:20:24

Analyze the unexpected altercation involving Grove Hero and its implications.

“So I can mention what they seen already.”

Balancing Street Life and Personal Growth

1:20:24 to 1:23:52

Discuss the duality of living a street life while seeking personal development and jobs.

“and they were like it's crazy because this guy woo was like i go to school with him and he's the nicest guy ever.”

Reflections on the Music Scene's Evolution

1:24:01 to 1:26:02

Explore the journey and challenges faced in the music industry since 2011.

“Like just, you know, it's a blessing, bro.”

The Impact of Violence on Artists

1:26:03 to 1:28:18

Discuss the personal impact of violence and safety concerns on artists in Chicago.

“They used to pull up helicopters and shit trying to get this nigga.”

King Yellow's Financial Struggles and Influence

1:28:19 to 1:31:38

Examine King Yellow's financial struggles and his son's situation.

“Yo, I wanted to know how you felt about King Yellow coming out and saying that he's broke and that his son went down for a bunch of armed robberies and allegedly NBA Youngboy put up$30K to bail his son out.”

Loss and Regret in the Music Life

1:31:39 to 1:36:42

Reflect on personal losses and regrets while navigating the music scene.

“So it was like, that was just my life path of shit that I chose to do.”

Youngboy's Influence and Parenting Dilemmas

1:36:43 to 1:38:01

Discuss the implications of Youngboy's financial help in relation to parenting.

“It's like, if I could have the same knowledge that I have and we all do, like, how can we slip up?”

Observations on Youth Behavior

1:38:01 to 1:40:00

Discussion on the implications of young individuals engaging in harmful behaviors.

“I'm not the perfect parent at all, so I can't sit here and, you know, but that's on him and with his son.”

Buka's Decision on Interviews

1:40:01 to 1:42:00

Insights into Buka's choice to decline interviews and its implications.

“You know, but I just, some niggas you just gotta weigh your hand at.”

Chicago's Crypto Heist Incident

1:42:01 to 1:43:20

Discussion about the recent arrest related to a crypto heist and its context.

“They should get some crypto money or whatever.”

Famous Dex and Street Relationships

1:43:21 to 1:46:00

Exploration of Famous Dex's journey and his relationship with street life.

“Cole Bennett, like, from the early days, like, he started a rap business out of Chicago, but never really did almost anything that really touched the drill shit.”

The Reality of Substance Abuse

1:46:01 to 1:47:40

A candid conversation on the realities and consequences of drug use in the community.

“as fast as possible he's like oh I got a million views see y 'all later no this wasn't his he didn't want to come out on no I'm gangbanging He made a whole different type of music.”

K2 in Prisons: A Growing Concern

1:47:41 to 1:50:10

Discussion about the prevalence of K2 in prisons and its effects.

“I know niggas have been doing drugs their whole life.”

Mama Duck and Wack's Controversial Exchange

1:50:11 to 1:52:00

Analyzing the conflict between Mama Duck and Wack and its implications.

“Did you hear Mama Duck and Wack crashing out on each other the other day?”

Impact of Parenting on Youth Behavior

1:52:00 to 1:57:49

Discussion on parental influence and the challenges in today's society.

“Because people say crazy shit to me about my people that's gone and shit like that.”

Creative Process Behind New Music

1:57:50 to 1:58:46

Insights into the artist's motivations and the creative process for new music.

“Man, so you dropped Still Swerving Volume 2?”

Transitioning to Acting and Broader Opportunities

1:58:47 to 2:00:49

Exploration of the artist's interest in acting and diversifying their career.

“I fuck with it because you got to think like.”

Influence of 50 Cent and Industry Dynamics

2:00:50 to 2:03:29

Discussion of 50 Cent's impact on the industry and local business dynamics.

“Because I felt that way with No Jumbo once or twice.”

The Potential Fight Between Artists

2:03:30 to 2:06:01

Speculation and banter about potential boxing matches between artists.

“I ain't got nothing to do with no other niggas got going on.”

Fighting Talk: Anticipation and Rivalries

2:06:01 to 2:07:38

Explore the conversation around upcoming fights, rivalries, and the mindset of fighters.

“So you and Yellow fight, y 'all go three rounds.”

Final Thoughts and Shout Outs

2:07:39 to 2:08:26

Hear the closing remarks, shout outs, and encouragement from 600 Breezy.

“niggas is paying niggas to get in the ring.”
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0:00No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. In here with my man Remo. And you know that we had to sit down with the man himself, 600Breezy, double cup up in the building. You know that we did it. You know that we did it. You know that we did it. We did it! That's my motto about everything. What's the word, man? We did it. How y 'all feeling, man? Good, dog. How you doing? They swear y 'all got me locked up last night. Oh, for real, we got to start there, man. Last interview we did with you, you got booked, what, a week after two? It probably wasn't even the whole week. Probably was maybe a week. Maybe if that, probably four or five days or some shit.

0:37But, yeah, bro, I had a warrant. I didn't know. Sitting there the whole time. So, when people would look at it like, damn, he left no jumper and got locked up. Shit, no, they was already looking for me the whole time. I just ain't. So, you left L.A. and went where? And then how you get arrested? Where at? So, I went to Chicago first. got into a little mishap with the police. They chased me and shit in my car in my name. I'm like, damn, I don't, what the fuck they chasing me for? You know what I'm saying? Then got out there. All the cribs I be at, just pickup trucks everywhere. Like, what the fuck going on?

1:11I really was lost. Went to my little bitch crib. The U.S. Marshals came right in there. Snatched you up. Came right in there, bitch. But they didn't have an actual warrant. They had a body warrant. So they just came to the door. and I just came out. They ain't searched the crib and shit. It just took me. I'm like, man, what's up, bro? Like, what y 'all? Yeah. And what's this fault? You know me, I'm thinking 600 gangs charged something because it's the U.S. Marshals. I'm thinking something heavy. They like all drugs in Pennsylvania. I knew what it was. Come on. I'm going with this shit. You slip was happy when you heard that.

1:42Yeah, oh, God. Oh, God. They had the shit on camera. They was the people, my neighbors and shit, they was recording and shit. And you know what I'm saying? That is like, I was smiling once I heard that. I told them straight up. I said, man, this shit's some weed, bro. Let's go. Let's get this shit out of the way. Yeah. Ain't no one but shit about some weed. But that was my fault, though. Putting my name on them packages, doing pop-up shops, not knowing that it's not legal where I was at. So I did it in Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania is not legal at all. And so you got caught just because you had it in there?

2:12Or they started the investigation because they knew that it was being sent there? No. So they was watching the niggas that I was doing business with since 2019. so it just so because there's no SDOT on the case with me too it just so happened me and SDOT got paid to go do a pop up so we do the pop up in 2024 this shit they came and got me a year and some change later I'm not thinking nothing I done did pop ups all around the world multiple places but that shit was illegal so they looked at it like shit we watched these niggas sell weed for a whole day they made this much money it was undercovers in there it was niggas that was there that we sold to hand to hand that told they had us red-handed.

2:54Like, shit on camera. Like, I'm in court. They playing this shit. So, I'm just letting time go by like shit. Whatever. The less shit they come with, I'm going to take it because it's just some weed anyway. So, what you cop out to? How much you end up doing? One to two years. Yeah. And how long you did?

3:11Got 70-something days off a good time off the year. Yeah. And I got to yell out for the road. And this shit, this shit the lightest shit I ever been on. I was about to say, because you've been doing biz for a minute now, and you've been doing stints. So how was this bid? It's light as shit, because it's weed. That shit was light. But I sat in the county the whole time. I never sat in the county jail. So that shit, I ain't going to lie. That shit bust my head. I don't see how niggas do it. Because you don't get as many privileges as being in an actual prison. I was on parole in Iowa, so I was used to any time I get in trouble, I know where I'm going.

3:41I'm going straight back to the joint in Iowa. You know, that shit. Open dorms, more than likely. Or you out out there. like you it's so much freedom in prison than sitting in a cell all day in a county jail so i ain't like that shit just taught me a lot like that shit taught me valuable lessons and there's a lot of stuff that we're used to doing with weed that we don't think twice about that is actually a big deal like flying with it we all done it a million times nobody thinks twice about it how many times do you like mail somebody an ounce or two and just didn't really think it was a big deal i've had people mail me ounces of weed that were not wrapped in any way shape or form the box is stinking when it's on my porch.

4:18It's technically legal, but that's what the judge was on my side. The judge, first of all, his wife was from Chicago. He went to law school in Chicago, so off the rip, he was already fascinated with me. Then when he really read over everything, he like, you don't got shit to do with this case. You lowest nigga on the totem pole. He said, you just was a celebrity. I said, I'm pleading guilty to what I did. I did a pop-up. I got paid. I came and sold weed that day. What else are we doing? Like, that nigga shit came with some white shit. Because, you know, it was a RICO charge. It was a state RICO.

4:52Yeah. But that shit, them state RICOs, they just handing that shit out. You know, Thug them shit, Luchi them shit, Hillridge, Pablo, Juan. A lot of niggas, they got state RICOs. You know, them niggas went and did, what, two to five years for guns, gangs, violence. Niggas be back. I just did a year for some weed. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, that shit ain't about nothing. That state RICO shit ain't about nothing. So, you know, niggas was looking at it thinking I was gone. thinking I'm out of here. Nah, that ain't the case. You said something that stuck out, though. You said as soon as you got to Chicago, you got in the high speed.

5:23So it's still like that? Like, you still got a motherfucking like be on point? It's because I was leaving folks for a repass. I was leaving. I'm going to repass. Ah, shit. So, you know, we was outside on different type of time. Yeah. And it's just so crazy. Like, I wasn't finna stop, man. Like, no matter what I got in the car. When they got behind me and flicked the lights, I'm like, hell no, my tags are good, this shit in my name, everything good. I don't get pulled over. I don't do no speed, none of that. So once they pulled me over, I stopped. Then more cars pulled up. I took them. I took them.

5:57I'm like, okay. I'll deal with this shit later. But then by the time I got to the next state, I'm seeing all of these pickup trucks. I'm like, nah, this is something serious. This is something deeper. like they really had from five for like four to five almost six in the morning I really was contemplating like damn where I'm gonna go what I'm gonna do and even the location where I thought I was gonna go where I thought they weren't gonna they knew they was at the window I was gonna jump out the window they at the window guns out king US Marshals I'm down they came for me this nigga said my name all type of shit like so yeah bro it's a fucked up situation but it was a lesson learned though because it's like literally like the judge said it itself though like like 88 percent 90 percent of this country the marijuana is legal so it's just certain places you end up that they not honoring that shit and they still gonna try like look what they just did with texas yeah you know i'm saying that's not okay if everyone else is making this shit legal y 'all going out to our way to like it we got more room in jails we still finna lock niggas up for that shit that shit ain't but does it feel kind of insane that you know and i'm not professing to know like exactly every street thing that you did in your life but I would assume if we were to go through your real life highlight real there would be some cool stuff in there and meanwhile you end up doing a year for like some weed which literally like every person you know got some weed almost nobody will ever do jail time for weed like it just really kind of stands out as like damn physically caught with the weed nothing you know what I'm saying like it was just it was niggas on the case like oh So, Breezy, Breezy, Breezy.

7:37So, they was telling them, all Breezy bringing weed from over here to over here. A lot of shit. It was all a lot, though. Like, I know what I do and when I do it or where I do it. But a lot of them niggas was just trying to get off because, you know, we got in there. The first two corrupt organization charges, you know, the judge, they just tell you the max. They don't tell you like this. So, they all, it's 20-year max for this, 20-year max for this. You know, me and Asdott sitting next to each other. And Blood had more charges than me. You know, he don't even fuck around. So I'm like, but it made sense now, like how shit played out and shit like that.

8:11Like he's still fighting, so I can't speak on too much bro shit. But he finna take some nice shit. Like finna take the same shit. Y 'all locked up in the same spot too, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We rode from transport. They came and got me from Wisconsin. Went right to the county. We grabbed him. And then they took us all the way to Atlanta to grab another nigga. And bronc us back to Pennsylvania. that's cause the nigga was going to the same jail so yeah it was crazy bro crazy crazy I done took the ride I done been on transports and shit I done been caught in different states and had to be trapped but that was bro first time and shit so I would just tell him bro this shit ain't shit but when I got there damn I might have been lying cause these niggas talking about 50 years collectively for a max on with some shit with some weed I had the nigga that got Bill Cosby I had Dante Mills Oh shit The nigga that got Bill Cosby out And that he out out right now Like you know A lot of people in the world Don't even pay attention To know that Bill Cosby's out Nah he really out you Had the same lawyer as Bill Cosby And he looking at this shit like It was just the conspiracy charges The conspiracy When you get a conspiracy charge It's like it's basically like It's hard to beat Because on the laws It's like knowingly or unknowingly Or direct or indirectly So you could be with me And I could have just Served a nigga or some shit and you don't know nothing about it.

9:35You don't know I got no weed, no whatever, no gun, whatever. Whatever I had with me. If they hit you with a conspiracy, you're going to have to take some time too because they're just going to be like, oh, well, it's in the law. Even if you didn't know, he was with that person. And that's fucked up, though. Everybody getting jammed up, man. I don't even like that name. Jammed up and jammed up. Because, bro, you know I was one of them people that spoke highly about food because I know. Oh, yeah. You got a Vlad TV clip that is like milk. Nigga, you ain't seen my comment? Somebody put it up there and I commented like I said I had to see it to believe it and I believe it now.

10:11But that shit, as a street nigga, that shit still hurt though, bro. So let's talk about Jim a little bit. So like, we all know he the nigga that's on the stand snitching on dirt, right? You went on Vlad and said that this nigga, I don't believe in. You and Memo said that y 'all don't believe he snitching. So it seemed like y 'all kind of like, he from 79th? He from 79th and Vernon, yeah. What was y 'all relationship? Where would you even know him from anyway? So it's cordial with me and him, but to my people from Evans, he's an op. So I know Jim. You know he did 12 years. He was a kid when he went to jail.

10:44You know what I'm saying? So I know young Jim. I know the nigga that was outside doing what he do. If you knew him like other people knew him, you wouldn't have thought that. You wouldn't have thought that, bro. You wouldn't have thought he'd have kept that shit solid or whatever. First of all, because I don't really know the whole thing, but it's like you got caught with a gun. Okay, what you was going to get a Chicago play. You was going to get like a 5 out of 7 or some shit like that for a bitch. You was going to pull a 4 off that. You was going to come home. You sitting here admitting to some shit that they don't know nothing about than throwing other niggas in there with you.

11:21And it's like, okay, yeah, you got Dirk in the situation, and Vonnie, all these dudes, you got them in that situation, but you also got yourself charges that are like 10 times more serious than you getting caught with a gun. You got caught with a gun. You decided to cop out to three murders. I killed these people. Nigga. What is that? You took some chump change and turned it into... Maximum. You feel me? You can get life. People that snitch, I don't get what they whole mindset. I've never seen a nigga snitch and walk away. you're doing some type of jail time. You're doing some type of something.

11:57So it's like, what you doing for? Especially if, like, with street niggas, we signed up for this shit. Like, a lot of us, coming from Chicago in the neighborhoods we in and shit, a lot of that shit was just through in our face, and we had to adapt to our environments. You know what I'm saying? But you still could have got your ass up and went and got a nine to five or moved from with your mama to go move with your auntie in a good neighborhood or whatever, whatever. You didn't have to do what we, so we made the decision, even though it was like, it was put to us, we still made the decision as young men and men to do the shit we doing.

12:33Yeah. Jim, it's like, ain't nobody put a gun to your head to make you do shit. You sitting here, you got caught. First of all, you trying to make it seem like you salty as Smirk when that's the nigga that's taking care of you. He still has not put nothing out there that was a valuable, like a reason. That was like, oh, yeah, that's why I told him. You just tell him because you like, I ain't going back to jail. Nah, he literally went on Instagram yesterday and said the reason why he's snitching on Dirk because he felt like Dirk sent him on a fluky hit. He said that the police knew about the car.

13:10Dirk never told him or Didi about the car. Then he said, I guess when he got to L.A., even though I don't believe it, But he said that when he got to LA, that's when he found out that he was supposed to do the hit. That's when Doody Low texted him and said, hey, you finna do this. You think some grown men, you think us as grown men. Yeah. Homies or not. My wife can't just tell me to get up and come somewhere without telling me why. You got some shit going on. He probably didn't have like literally anything going on, right? Dirk wants him to fly out. He's like hitting the lottery, even though he's already cool with him and stuff.

13:43it's still like you were going to be doing nothing for the next couple months so now you're going to LA to hang out with your rapper homie I mean I could imagine him just jumping at the opportunity but at the end of the day they still ain't show no proof of Dirk seeing nothing paying Dirk ain't got nothing from what I'm looking at I feel like Dirk from the wall that's the biggest thing that Dirk's team can lean on is like it may sound pretty plausible when you have all these people testifying but there's nothing like concretely tying into it no concrete evidence because for a murder for hire, how was there a murder for hire if nobody got paid?

14:18And it ain't like they killed the nigga and then they locked him up the next day. No, it was a lot of time for niggas to get paid and all this. Then you such a gangster and a killer and all this. He could have pressed Dirk about his money. You know what I'm saying? So it's just, it don't make sense to me. I just feel like it was one of them hating situations and a nigga like, and I'm taking like, I look, that nigga's Nino Brown. he said shit this shit this shit bigger than he he said Dirk is the smart brother from the bank like you know what I'm saying like that's how I look at it because it's like damn you just taking niggas with you for some shit like you know what I'm saying then you pinpoint and doing all this because right now from what how I see it if I need the only one that was like red-handed with shit they got him doing multiple you know what I'm saying like they got proof of that but when it come to dirt where is it it's not there it's it's invisible because these niggas are just saying this it's nothing there it's nothing dirt didn't give nobody no gun he didn't give a nigga no money if everybody getting on the stand saying oh it was a murder for hire but we didn't get paid where's the murder for hire i mean that make y 'all some stupid ass niggas that just did some shit just to do it but where is the charge that comes in on dirt is yeah the evidence ain't that strong i ain't gonna lie they don't if there is any evidence besides group chats but one thing that was said in the group chat that i was like all right this is a little so basically jim hit him up saying like yo we didn't get my money but supposedly they was mad because he didn't get the right guy but dirk texting back and was like oh he still counts or whatever so basically like in a sense he kind of like if they can use that text message to say like all right nigga didn't kill Kwon Do but pop still count that's the only concrete shit that I seen where it's like that's true though like that's that core like they got they said that Dirk said that in the text message yeah in the phone but this my thing if so many people been at Dirk house and he had so many devices on the fuck can y 'all say that he text anybody or he this was his phone if that was really his text message his homies be at his crib what they got to do this shit ain't got nothing to do with little Dirk they want Dirk cause he the money That's just That's just how the feds play it The feds don't want Like look at it like this If the feds just wanted niggas like that The whole Chicago wave would've been in jail For murders Yeah Murders, murders, murders Just off word of mouth This shit being broadcasted It's niggas that's doing shit And getting up there And saying like Yeah we just smoked this nigga Da da da da Feds ain't never came and got nobody You know why?

16:55Cause wasn't no money involved Now you got a nigga that got 30, 40 M's Out the trenches That still be in tune with his people they don't want that. If Dirk would've pulled the Keefer out, the police wouldn't f*** with him. But they look at him like, oh shit, this hood nigga got some money. We can't allow that. We gotta get this nigga out the way. He got gangsters with him, killers, whatever. I think it's more so that it happened in LA. Not saying that Dirk is involved, but I think that doing it by the Beverly Center, niggas probably would've got away with some more of this shit if it was in Chicago shit, but it's like, duh.

17:30Yeah. They did that shit in the area. I be trying to tell niggas that. Like, he did that shit in the area where he was supposed to do that shit at. Like, if he got killed on 63rd, they won the feds when they came and picked that case up. And just, it's f***ed up how shit happens. Like, I don't know. Because I used to live right there where that shit happened that would fool them. So, I don't know what I'm seeing. Damn, I know that gas station. Damn, I live where? I live where? I live where? I live where? Yeah, bro. That shit is just like, it's a f***ed up situation. But I still, me, like, me personally, free smirk because I don't feel like he got nothing to do with this shit, bro.

18:04I just feel like he the man with money. He the top dog. Out that equation, if you kill the head, the body going to fall. So if they take Dirk away from all these niggas that they like, oh, he taking care of them and they still doing this and that, the feds won like that. Because then that go all the money. Now, who else in that whole circle? Keith ain't finna come back and fuck with niggas that he don't fuck with no more. So, it'll make it look like the whole 300, Lameron, all that shit, it'll make it look like it's over. Yeah. If dirt gone. All right. All right. How do you feel? So, a lot of things came out on court that niggas didn't know.

18:45One thing that stood out. So, they were saying that. So, during the time after King Von was killed, there was a whole bunch of Instagram lives of Mimo. And I guess you had went to Savannah, too. But they mentioned Mimo specifically. And I think Jam said that Mimo had botched the hit that they were going to do in Savannah. By going to the block and shooting a music video. Exactly. Which we all fondly remember him doing that, regardless of if there was actually going to be a hit. But still, Jam, what type of shit is you on? Why is you even getting up there saying, oh, Mimo, f*** it up. We was finna kill, fool.

19:18Like, I just like, it's like a desperate move he pulling. Like, I just felt like he pulling a definite move. I look at it like he don't want to do no more time in jail. so he just up there just throwing everybody under the block yeah like so he saying anything out of his mouth like you know what I'm saying like cause ironically okay if Mimo went down now who said like so you trying to say y 'all you and your niggas went too like at the same time like y 'all went separately without fool like how like stop trying to pinpoint people and put them in there cause Mimo got up there and said some shit like Jim was still in jail or something when he shot the video or whatever.

19:56So he don't really know. But I don't know. I'm just watching from the outside looking in, bro. How close is Memo on Jam relationship? Because Jam only followed four people, and Memo is one of the people that he followed. Yeah. See, I don't really. I know Jam from before the 12 years. I don't really know about this new nigga. You know what I'm saying? So I don't really know. He probably could have just been following folks off the OTF shit and bro being around and shit like that. Well, when you look at what you said on Vlad, do you look back at that and be like, damn, I was being a little too forgiving?

20:29Because when I watched you say that, it made me check myself about the fact that I had called Jim a snitch on the podcast and made me feel like, did I blow it? Like, did I jump to conclusions too fast? I'm never speaking up for no nigga ever again after that, bro. Like, that really, like, for Chicago, what Jim doing right now is I open it for a lot of street niggas. Right. because we never seen it on this level you never seen it because it's like now it's like it could be a nigga that's with you every day like if y 'all was street niggas and y 'all was killers and you didn't see him do you didn't see him do and just one day one of y 'all just choose to flip after y 'all done think you try to stand over niggas do all type of shit like damn you would have never expected that from him and that shit gonna hurt you because it's like damn this was my man's this was my brother in the streets i thought we was and they're just like damn you really like jam ain't get caught up on no body or nothing nothing that was gonna get him gone for a long time or forever he just said i'm finna give up all this shit but at that time when you said that what year was that you know that was like that's probably like 24 either end of 23 or 24 Because people in that camp already knew Jame was snitching.

21:47See, because that was some personal shit in between them. But they should have been telling the streets, though. I feel like some niggas knew. Because it got to me that Jame was a snitch before it hit the internet. So that's why I figured you would have at least knew he was a snitch. But it was a lot of secret assassin shit going on. And it was a lot of secret. Because that shit that niggas was supposed to all look through the streets. Yeah. They don't fuck with food. he ain't right like that's just how it work niggas like I'm a nigga I don't like to throw that jacket on people that snitch jacket but it's like if y 'all know y 'all know something at least let niggas know like alright watch out for food because niggas could have been still doing shit with him exactly and he could have just been working the whole time you know what I'm saying yeah so y 'all didn't get those calls because I even got that call a heads up before OTF Gym went viral for being a snitch I'll say like this X-Man Rico was one of the first people to even put it out that he was a snitch and everyone was trying to figure out where his information came from I seen that I've seen that.

22:42Little do people know it was OTF affiliates behind the scenes kind of telling niggas like, yo, Jam, that nigga all bad. So people in they camp kind of knew that the nigga was bad, but I guess they wasn't going around telling other people. Yeah. So it's like, I think probably me and a lot of my niggas was out the loop because you know, we 600, we got our own shit going on. And these niggas is like, they the guys, so we biddies and niggas up, but it be a lot of shit. Yeah, I got some shit. It's like, I ain't gonna lie, bro. After you realize, it's really like an OTF versus O-Block versus 600 war going on secretly.

23:19From the case, you can kind of tell that's what's going on. I mean, it's just... And I'm not going to say a war as in people getting killed or anything. I wouldn't say it's a war, but it's a lot of... Animosity. It's like disagreements. And we all grown men. Yeah. But we all grew from kids with each other. But some niggas grew. Like I'm one of them niggas that don't know a lot of them niggas Because you know the OV shit 79th shit So Nah See them niggas they see me Y 'all he man he be with food and them But he from Brick City though So bro cool They'll show me 16 They'll shake my hand But we side eyeing each other Cause I know my other You don't like my other homies and shit like that So I'm one of the niggas that'll be out the mix for certain shit Because They ain't got nothing to do with me I be on 600 timing I'm worried about what's going on On my blocks And a lot of that shit It be a lot of shit going on But I wouldn't say like It's like beef Where niggas killing each other And shit like that It's just disagreements And niggas don't Everybody not for everybody Yeah You know what I'm saying So it's just like that It's just one of those situations Everybody ain't for everybody And niggas fuck with who they fuck with So you wasn't shocked When you seen like Some of the I guess in the transcripts They was kind of saying That there was text messages Where Dirk was mad at Old Block members Because he felt like They wasn't slotted And they was leading it up to OTF.

24:40That's what they saying in the transcripts and text messages. So you wasn't shocked like, alright, there is some animosity between O Block and OTF. No, because this bond we talking about. You know what I'm saying? So, if Smirk did feel that way, you know what I'm saying? Those feelings are valid. Because that's equivalent to Chief Keefe getting killed at the peak of his career. And he doing this shit for that and then ain't nobody doing nothing for him. You know what I'm saying? So yeah, yeah Like niggas is brothers A lot of niggas is brothers A lot of niggas don't fuck with Tyler But a lot of niggas is brothers So it's valid to feel that way And it's valid for niggas To be like Oh they ain't doing shit for bro But everybody's not killers Everybody's not drug dealers Everybody's not gangsters Some niggas is just around Like They just around Some niggas play their parts Some niggas just grew up In the neighborhoods And they ain't know shit Like That's just what it is But You can't force no niggas To go and go do Nothing Like the niggas That's gonna do it And got it on their mind And got it in their heart They gonna already get up and go do it.

25:38So if they didn't, if there's this allegations though, but if he really felt that way and shit like that, he just cut them niggas off, stop fucking with them niggas. And that's it. Yes, you can tell there was some animosity between OTF and O-Block just from the messages. But I don't know. Just from everything you've seen, it's like, oh yeah, Dirk wasn't really with too many people. He was fucking Muwak. And like he was, all right, so one thing, 600, it seemed like y 'all don't really branch out I don't really f*** with too many other people. Y 'all stay together. I seen Big Mike. He said that Dirt kind of like was recruiting the biggest killers from every hood and kind of like forming the Avengers.

26:21And not even saying the biggest killers. Yeah, I wouldn't even say that. Do you feel like him just clicking up with guys from each and every hood ended up being a problem? Instead of just sticking with the Landron niggas, you'll probably have more in-house shit going on. But if you grabbing a nigga from each and every hood, it kind of makes you too mixy. In my opinion, that was the problem with the whole Chicago wave and shit. Because no, he ain't going to grab no killers, no shit. He grabbed faces and niggas with names from certain blocks. And a lot of these niggas don't know each other. So that's where this shit come from.

26:58You got to think, J.M. just spent the majority of his life in jail. He not from Lamarine. He not from Dog Pound. He not from nowhere over there. He don't know Dirk like that. He even said he don't know Vaughn like that. Come on, bro. He been in jail his whole life. He only been out for a little while. He got out, seen the life they was living, and now got these niggas knocked. You know why? Because them not his homies. There's no love for them. So, yeah, Dirk grabbing other niggas from other blocks was kind of like, you know. I feel like he going to beat it, so I can't say his downfall. but it was like it caused issues but the narrative that people ran with online is like Lamron wasn't willing to kill for him so he had to assemble his own gang the internet are always gonna paint it a certain picture they don't know what niggas that's a pretty good narrative though that sounds pretty cool that's pretty gangster it's sound but like you know what I'm saying like that's some street shit so I can't get into that I'm sure but you know what I'm saying they can't just sit there and say all these niggas won't do nothing for them so he's got that no he just He grabbed niggas.

28:05I felt like what he was trying to do was the right thing, was grab big pieces from these blocks and make sure they okay so they can make sure they niggas okay and now we elite. But that shit just calls it. It's too mixy. It's too mixy. It's too mixy. You got to think it was organic in the beginning with the Chief Keef and the Fredos and the fucking E to everybody because these niggas that really knew each other and hung with each other in these blocks. because they want to know, oh, what's up? You BD, bro? You BD, oh, 16, baby, blah, blah, blah. And you hang with him because he hang with him. It was niggas that really knew each other.

28:41But if you look at it, even from the This Ain't What You Want video shoot, it was like hella different clicks. Even back then, that was kind of like, I feel like at the start, niggas wanted the money. So it was cool with being mixy, but then you see how it played out. Because even he ended up beefing with niggas like Crump and the whole movie, and all them niggas was in that first video. Because it was like street politics started happening. Shit started happening when niggas had to choose their sides type shit. So Crump them from Dro City. They with the majority of the GDs that we was beefing with and shit.

29:15Or with 051 and shit like that. That really was what that was. One of they big niggas came home, linked them niggas together, and it was basically like, fuck us. Like, damn, fuck us. y 'all think it's just what us everywhere you know what i'm saying like okay but yeah that's it just it'd be a lot of it'd be a lot of street politics that beef up what was going on so taking it back all the way to the this ain't what you want days when you sent all them different faces and the videos from them different blocks that was before chicago got to a point of oh these niggas ops and these niggas ops you know a lot of niggas are cool we grew up with each other We went to school with each other.

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29:57A lot of us won ops for real, for real. That shit just... Over time, when cousins and friends and people that are like, you might kill a nigga uncle and don't even know this is daddy brother and he from this block, so now that make them be in two. It's just, it's f***ed up, bro. It's f***ed up. Everybody tied to somebody some type of way. And by that, everybody having ties, you eventually going to have to pick a side. Yeah. Because you got ties to these people and they really opt out with these niggas. Like, we going back and forth with these niggas. But you be with them. Now, my little homie see you.

30:30He going to smoke you. I can't tell him nothing. Because all he going to know is he be with them niggas. So, that shit just, I don't know. But Dirk, he had the right mindset, bro. It was the right mindset to, I'm going to put, I'm going to fuck with all the blocks. I'm going to fuck with niggas. Put pieces together from Chicago. But niggas start hating. He probably pulled niggas in and looked at him like, man, I supposed to be in his position. I supposed to have that money. Them niggas ain't no shit. This shit just start bubbling up. That's why it's good to stay with your niggas. But let's play devil's advocate here, right?

31:01All right. So say if they, even though we saying Dirk innocent, right? He ain't do this shit. They saying that Dirk promised these niggas a million dollars each for the hit. Nobody got paid. And the only nigga who got money was OTF Jam. That nigga only got$10 ,000. But where's the proof? No, but I'm saying take that, take Durkin and them out of it. Even if that's the, it's like, maybe that's why niggas turned. Cause it's like, even if niggas went and did this shit, niggas ain't even get what they was even supposed to get. Like just in the sense of like a nigga expecting a million, a nigga don't even get 500 ,000, a nigga get a 10 piece.

31:35But you, you think like, let's, let's be real. All right. You think a nigga, I don't give a fuck if it was Kanye West. You think a nigga going to tell a nigga, oh, I got a million dollars a piece for y 'all. Y 'all go kill this nigga. a million dollars you know it's not overpriced one million dollars not a hundred thousand not ten not twenty not even one not five one whole M yeah niggas don't know how much money they're got we know we got some money but niggas don't got how many niggas went on that hit you got three and then you got two niggas and another car following so really five come on bro you think he's trying to come up off six seven million dollars for a body when in Chicago, that shit.

32:18Like, come on, bro. But all right, even if you don't give a nigga $10 ,000, though, what the fuck you think a nigga gonna do? Like, come on. So, so, so, so Jim saying that he only gave him$10 ,000. All right, and so basically he got that 50 piece from when he first got out. When, you know, the nigga rap, Jan, get out there. Jan gave him 50, ain't gotta ask again. That ain't got nothing to do with nothing. That ain't got nothing to do with it. That was on some work. No, I'm saying he got$50 ,000 when he first got home. Like, I'm looking out for you. here's some money. He showed him love. That ain't got nothing to do with nothing.

32:46So then the other payment they gave him$10 ,000 to perform in the Federal Nightmares music video. So he's saying he believed that was his payment. No. And this is what he's on the stand saying. If Dirk was giving Jam money he was giving him money because that's his mans and he can't have niggas around him looking f*** up. No 100 % that part too. But I'm saying take all that out of it. Just take Dirk and leave these niggas out of it. If a nigga go do a hit for somebody and the nigga only get away with 10 ,000 and this nigga done flew to Cali and did all this type of shit and he's super hot. I can see why Jam is...

33:21I'm not saying it's right, but it's like, how the fuck the nigga only get 10 bands out of the whole shit? And then you ain't put no money for a lawyer or nothing for that nigga? I mean, isn't 10 bands like not that out of the question for like a normal body? Granted, yeah, this is a high profile one. It's in Hollywood. It's kind of crazy. It's a millionaire paying for it, but it's not that out of the question. That's still a good chunk of taints, but... I'm sure people get killed for less every week in Chicago. Chicago, yeah. Like a lot less. In other places. You know I be everywhere. Yeah, all right, for sure.

33:49I've seen niggas get they melon cracked for$1 ,000. But this is some high-profile ass. This shit ain't high-profile. It was a nigga. It was Kwon Do Rondo and his mans in the car. That shit wasn't, you know what I'm saying? It's another rapper, though, that kind of like, y 'all, you got 6ix9ine gassing it up. He on there with the Slava Vine coming. So it was already - That's the nigga. They would have put a million on his head before anything. Just because of how disrespectful and how much he talk and how much he keep shit up. If it was ever going to be a million on anybody's head, niggas would have collectively put that shit up on his head.

34:21I wonder if that ever got discussed. Maybe we got to take Rainbow Head out too. First of all, nobody wants to do anything to that man. He is a federal informant. Right. I'm just saying. You know what I'm saying? It's way more. But that's no, bro. Yo, them niggas ain't get paid because Smirk ain't had nothing to do with that shit. Yeah, no, 100 % if that's the case. But it's just still, if a nigga only got paid 10 bands, I see why he salty. But he salty at a nigga that ain't had nothing to do with that shit. Yeah. That's how I'm looking at it. Yeah, no, I feel you. I see how you're running it. I'm looking at that shit like you salty at the wrong nigga.

34:56Whoever told you what, did what, or whatever, if you chose to do it on your own, that was on you. Don't try to take down the nigga that got Chicago. He got Chicago. Yeah. How you trying to take this nigga He taking care of his own family And other people's families Even help this bitch ass nigga family $50 ,000 when you walk out of jail Niggas come home with nothing He got 50 racks You can do with 50 What? 50 bucks? You know what I'm saying? Now you talking about You only got paid 10 But like Nigga that shit ain't had nothing to do with Dirk He also said He said that Dirk is only a leader Because Dirk had the money And that Dirk really wasn't a street nigga like that.

35:37If Dirk didn't have money like that, then he wouldn't be able to be this leader for everybody. He painted a picture to criminalize Dirk to say he a leader. Dirk ain't no leader. You go to Chicago, the Chicago police laughing at that shit. That man ain't no leader. He just, that's a little Dirk. He got some money. He be one of the biggest rappers out of Chicago, but he's not no gang leader. He ain't no leader or none of that shit. Like, he literally jammed doing and saying shit to make it look crazy. But you got to think this is a serious federal trial. The feds know Dirk ain't no leader. They know that shit, bro.

36:13They know that shit. They around. They see what the fuck is going on. A leader in the sense of Dirk probably ain't doing the drills, but they think Dirk is funding the drills. I think that's what the feds believe. They would have slipped up already. If niggas got all of these eye clouds and shit can't be erased and they got all of this, you think niggas was really that intelligent to not slip up and send out some... All these killings that's supposed to be going on. Yeah. They don't got nothing against that man. Not the Chicago shit, not nothing. They picked them cases up, dropped them. Because the feds look at shit and be like, I ain't going to waste my time.

36:47Not all of them got dropped. So apparently after this one, he's going to be charged. Well, they still got the Stefan Mack shit where they're trying to charge him for that murder or whatever. No, I think... I don't know. I don't think none of that shit going to come back up. I be seeing that shit on the internet. but if they dropped it already, they not about it. They didn't drop it though. Like, they tried to run a concurrent with this one, but the judge was saying, like, we're going to – Yeah, because that's California and Illinois. That's two different. But it's going to be the same judge. Like, I think literally because everyone thinks even if Dirk get found not guilty on Tuesday, Dirk's not walking home.

37:22I believe he's going to have to deal with the Stephon Mack. So it's – damn. Right, instantly right after. Instantly? Damn. Yeah. I feel like he gon' walk, bro. That's how it look to me. I feel like he gon' walk. I feel like he gon' walk because from what I'm seeing, they don't have nothing against him. And you see what the judge just said some shit, like told the jury they can't use. I seen that today. Some of the evidence and shit where. He basically saying like you got to have him dead to rights. You got to have him, You got to have some shit direct from him, a payment or something or something.

38:00Don't go off other shit. That let me know that's a win already. The judge like, hey, I know how I feel about this shit. This shit's bullshit. This man ain't got nothing to do with this shit. From all your experience, from a nigga that you did jail time and shit, you don't feel like direct witnesses and word of mouth is sometimes enough to dissuade a jury? I mean, it's not because people can get up there and say anything, bro. But when they're listening to like three, four people saying like the exact same thing. I ain't seen that happen in this. The average juror, I don't know. I feel like they're probably going to be kind of convinced by the same story being told by a bunch of people.

38:36See, I ain't seen this happen in this case, though. Everybody is contradicting themselves. In small ways, but the same general idea is pretty consistent, right? it's so it's easy to get some little shit and cooperate on some little shit but they stories is not sticking together nobody's stories is sticking together so you got multiple different stories about this one person and none of them adding up yeah like they all kind of got the same story with a little bit of this is how I see it this is how I see it but basically all three of these niggas are saying that Dirk sent them all to do it That's what they say and understand.

39:17So that's enough to sway the jury? So what real crime is? Oh, he sent us off to go kill somebody and we ain't never get paid. They trying to say that for murder for hire, the murder still happened, so you can still get charged for it if you don't get paid it. So the murder still took place, but you just never got the payment. They still got to prove that he coerced or called that murder. Nah, just take Dirk out of it. But just like, do you feel like even a jury? I ain't talking about them. Yeah, do you feel like witnesses are enough? Right. You feel like witnesses are enough when you got three or four people who are in music videos with you and claiming they're your guys and y 'all in group chats?

40:03Is that enough to sway the jury to be like, nah, I kind of believe it? Or you feel like there got to be more concrete evidence? There got to be more concrete evidence. because this is people's life. This ain't no, all y 'all finna get five or 10 years. You know what I'm saying? Even though they ain't supposed to do that shit with that type of shit neither, but it's a situation where it's like,

40:23so what is it? It was 10 years if it was an attempt and nobody got hurt. It's 25 if somebody got injured. It's life or a chair or that, lethal injection shit when somebody dies for a California, Um, murder for aight. So right now, everybody's life on the line. Nobody's going to get less than 25 years if they found guilty. You know what I'm saying? Probably even 40. Yeah. So this would be some shit like, don't just listen to what a few niggas said just because they was around them. Throw them away. No, they need real dead-ass evidence, bro. And they don't have it. So it's like it's kind of bogus to Dirk if they just go off what these few people saying that's basically probably looking at theyself like I got caught red-handed.

41:16I'm going to use Dirk as a get out of jail. Why would I let him walk away? If the feds asking for him, shit, we all going down. Yeah. And the fact that they were all trying to be in cahoots with each other behind the scenes, Jim making calls to Vonnie secretly and shit. So there's a lot of reasonable doubt where you could play Dirk. So I could see him. It's a 50-50 right now. I ain't going to lie. I mean, it's the ultimate situation where, you know, you think that you and your boys are so locked in that you're just always going to have each other's backs. And then when it actually gets tough, everything switch up.

41:51The niggas that Dirk don't know like that is the niggas that's doing what they're doing. Boogie, solid. Didi, solid. Didi, solid. You know why? They know him. They know him for real. He know them. So you knew Didi? Like Didi from Taytale. You know, that's on 59 too. So what type of person Didi was? Didi a thousand, bro. You know, Didi just beats murders and shit like that and came home. And came home. He just, you know, he got a great, his lawyer, I think, his lawyer one of the best ones up there from what I'm seeing. But when niggas like Didi, it be like, damn, Didi. I hate he even in the situation with this shit because he a good nigga and he done already beat shit and got past shit.

42:33Yeah. You know what I'm saying? They trying to label him a minister. Because he already done, been through murders. And you know, like, even if you 100 % innocent and you beat a murder, them people going to look at you like, oh, that got away. That nigger, he got away. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So you feel like it's one of those? They just trying to. Yeah. They going to paint him as, oh, he's the, they going to paint him as the one. They said him and Jan was ministers. I don't know how high ranking that is but how the f*** they just gonna label them minnows like ain't no like that's bro yeah who I can't even get into that type of shit on this platform bro but they just they saying anything bro they sound higher than the minister though?

43:16yeah it is but not a lot you know what I'm saying? yeah they just saying shit they just throwing that they painted a picture for them to be just menaces. Like high-ranking gang members making it seem like they got control over other people to help the case, bro. That's how they trying to say Dirk a leader. Because if they label them as menaces, what, that make Dirk? That make Dirk higher than them. And as damn near one of the highest you get, so it's like... Yeah, what would that be called? I don't know. Break down the whole structure. What would that be called? All right, so, yeah, there's been a lot going on.

44:01So another main thing that a lot of people will, I guess, Doody Low has been receiving a lot of flack is because he's outside the courtroom, but also he is possibly conspirator number four. Didn't his name come up? His name came up multiple times. It came up in text messages. It came up through Jim. While Jim was actually on the stand, he said that he found out the next day through Doody Low that he was out here to do a murder. He said Doody Lo told him why he was there to do the murder. Then in text messages, they're saying that Doody Lo is one of the people that dropped the location. He's still outside the jail, bro.

44:36And he's been outside supporting. After they said that? After they said that, he's been outside with shirts, supporting Dirk. He had Neon out there even after that was said. Kayla B made a statement on Twitter. I think she hopped on Twitter. And she was kind of upset saying that niggas out here moving goofy, making Twitch and doing Twitch and streams outside the courthouse. So it's like a 50-50. Some people feel like it's support. And then some people feeling like, all right, how the fuck is Doody Low not in jail? And why the fuck you still outside that courthouse when your name getting mentioned that much?

45:07Especially as someone that dropped a low, allegedly. Yeah, I'm going to keep my comments on myself because...

45:19I like Doody Low. But you see, when I'm dead, look crazy. They mentioned your name in this trial, and you said, like, he for sure was out there the next day.

45:38Nah.

45:41Nah. So it can't be enough? I would've got the f*** on. So it can't be? I would've got the, nigga, what? If they, I'm out there, they all doodle, they just said your name in a, BD, I'm gone. Right now, right in the, I'm getting in the truck, go, I'm gonna switch trucks, all type of shit, I'm going, they on me. They, that shit's serious. Yeah. Like, no, I don't know. So then what type of mind state you think he's in if he's knowing that his name is being brought up in court and he's still out there passing out shirts and still being able to sit in front of the trial? What's his stance and how confident is he?

46:11So confident makes you feel like he can't have anything on his conscious. So it's like, that's what I'm saying. I like, I look at it like he's truly innocent and he probably like, oh, I ain't do shit. I know I ain't do shit. But one thing I know about Doody Low, a lot of them niggas, that's one of them niggas that love Dirk for real. Like, you got Doody Low not from Chicago. He from a few hours out. So it's like once him and Dirk linked in like that, he been with Dirk ever since. It's been a long time, probably 15 years, 12, 13 years, shit like that. So he probably, people like, even like when people going through shit, like grievance, they show you that people don't show their emotions the same way as other people.

46:53So, Doody Low probably really out there genuinely like, free my brother. And other people will look at it like, his ass are goofy. Why is he out there doing that? Why is he even still out there? They just said his name. But he thinking like, that I got support out here for my brother. You know what I'm saying? It'll be a 50-50 how people look at it. I ask you this though. Why do you think he wasn't charged? like how does that make sense because if they're saying that they got there's no concrete proof on dirt it's all word of mouth and you got niggas like jam saying that uh dirt is the one sent us off jam is the same niggas that's saying duty load gave them the location and shit they got it from we man and i guess got it from duty load because then he's so it's like how do you know how's he not in jail i mean that shit like gotta be not she did think about the fears they gonna them do a little bit of homework before they even come and rap niggas and waste their own time so there literally had to be no nothing of doody low doing any of that shit that jim cnd did and doody low know it and the feds know it too they probably like all that nigga line man we do we went through doody low phone we knew he had this phone these two three phones and this month period we knew who he was texting who he was calling that never happened all right So is it a possibility that he's conspirator number four and he still doesn't get charged?

48:16Or conspirator number four is supposed to be charged? No, because if you were conspirator on the case, everybody is like co-conspirator. You were Cody. You get charged. There's no way that you get out of that. All right. Well, Wack is on file on record saying that Doody Low told him personally that he's co-conspirator number four. When I talked to Doody Low this morning, the first thing he did was accuse me of being co-co number four. Oh, shit. so i don't know that's a joke or not but so when you hear shit like that how does that make sense it don't bro because you know i'm on i just i've been in two indictments in 15 years bro and nobody on my like you get locked up and you can get out on the bond or some shit like that but you don't just be a co-conspirator to a criminal case and just be floating for a murder for hire that's serious you that means you played a part in this and that you're a co-conspirator like you own the conspiracy with the rest of these guys so i don't know bro he can't be co-conspirator for he can't because he'll be in jail yeah that's just a crazy thing to be going around telling niggas

49:33but I mean to save face for Doody Low if he was snitching they turned all the niggas that snitching to PW1 protective witness or whatever so it doesn't say anything that co-conspirator number 4 is snitching the only thing that's confusing is if you're co-conspirator number 4 how the f*** you ain't in jail exactly cause he would be in jail especially if you're the one that dropped the location and a nigga ended up getting killed it's like how the f*** you're not in jail Exactly, because that means you played a part. If that was true, that would mean he made it happen. So he would have been arrested, too, facing serious times.

50:09There's two theories that— He can be co-conspirator. Trench's news went and said that co-conspirator number four is a female from out here. And then now they're trying to say it's a weed man from out here, right? But at the end of the day, Doody Low had to either get the low from that female or— Or because, all right, they're saying co-conspirator number four is in the group chat with Lil Durk and drop the low. So I don't think that we men or the female will be in the group chat with other OTF members. Right. So sound like you have to be co-conspirator number four. But they are trying to say it's a we man out here.

50:41And I'm just throw this out here. I had a convo with Kwon Do and then I convo. And just from basing off everything I'm seeing in the trial, Kwon Do was under the assumption that it wasn't OTF members that shot Pod. You could tell they're probably watching this trial and finding out shit they didn't even really know. Because they was really, to be real, I'm going to just say Pod really did some shit where he ran off on a plug and they thought it was some shit like that where the nigga Pod ran off on a plug and the plug came and got them and did that. They didn't know it was OTF niggas that shot it.

51:13So they're finding out a lot of this shit through the court system right now. And that's just some shit that I know personally because I had a conversation with niggas. So with that being said, maybe it is the weed man and I don't know, but it's just like, I don't feel like for Wack to say, Doody Low told him personally that he's co-conspirator number four. It's like, alright, that shit's not adding up. I don't know. Because I don't know. You know, it'd be the internet. I'd be seeing a lot of shit. So, I can't... I don't know. I don't know. I can't sit here and say that Doody Low told Wack that.

51:47He told me that. I just put it out there. That's why I'm like, what yeah i don't know he probably could have felt like he was a while ago and said or some shit like that but i don't know bro but still even if so coke and spirit of four not in jail they still out basically like it's a random person like they ain't coke spirit for right now is not in jail and then i went and jumped the gun because the nigga told me personally he was coke and spirit number four so i put it out there because in courtroom it was oh duty loads dropping the load you know what i'm saying so it was like all right add up then the nigga not gonna tell you they're co-conspirator number four for a reason no for no reason right like who throw themselves in that type of scenario so i would just but what i will say there's nothing that says co-conspirator number four snitching so it's just like it's just like why the f*** you not in jail though that's the only thing if you are co-conspirator number four yeah that shit just not adding up everybody will be in jail unless you just like a super even maybe i don't know i I only seen too many people rat and not get no time.

52:51Like, I only seen that shit in movies and shit. People get, like, protective custody and they move them away and shit like that. And they stay free from the case if they help them crack the whole case. I ain't never seen no shit like that in real life. Even with, like, Jamming them, like, all right, Jam, you tell him on his murder. How much time do you think Jam will, like, get knocked off? He still get cooked. They finna tell him, oh, well, shit, you killed all these people. You admitted to these murders, so you was really supposed to get a lethal injection. so we just gonna give you life with no possibility of parole.

53:19So he damn near telling for no reason. Or like all possibility of parole after 45 years, 50 years, some shit like that, right? Yeah, you telling for nothing, bro. All niggas that tell, tell for nothing. They tell for nothing, bro. Like, you still gonna go to jail. You can't walk the yard. You can't have commissary. You can't do nothing. Like, there's no freedom. They gonna have to go to PC forever. Like, in prisons and shit, in some states, they got like a PC jail. they get into too much shit they send them there they got like sex cases and shit like that they send them there but like niggas gonna have the PC up forever you can't just be a rat and just be out cuz niggas get on like oh man I heard his we got to see his work we heard that shit bad and then he wrapped on a famous nigga to play everybody this is niggas yeah gotta think it dirt getting niggas in the feds they got B is 10 20 30 years and getting them through off the shit he's saying through his words.

54:14You know what I'm saying? So it's like, they gonna see that nigga come through that, and I'm like, yeah, that's that bitch ass nigga that got Lil Dirk out the way, man. Yeah, nigga's gonna be on him. Because now ain't no more music. If he go to jail forever, you know, ain't no more music. So them niggas is there, man, they gonna, that man, that man gonna get stabbed to death in the first week. Damn, you think it's like that? I mean, shit, he still, I don't know where he, I don't know where he at right now, but he still sending messages on IG, and he's popping it, he's standing to my fuck. Dirk and all that type of shit.

54:44Can't they use that shit in court? That's what I seen a lawyer come out and say that it could be a mistrial, but honestly, I didn't see anything that he said that he didn't say on the stand for it to be a mistrial because he's literally just saying everything that he said on the stand, and he could also just lie and say he never sent that message out. And whoever wrote that shit for Jim on his page, yo ass is a f***ing gofiend. And you, something need to happen to you. Okay, but what about Jim posting on his story saying, hey, this is where I live. If y 'all want to come see me this is where i'm at and then it came out because we all saw that and we're like what like you you want to die like he's challenging people to kill him and then it turned out that actually that's where his sister lived and they were beefing so he was basically like trying to scare the shit out of her by making her think that she was gonna get her shit shot up which i mean doesn't really seem like it should be a laughing matter but here we are that's that's but look he doing that to his own sister that's wild that like paints the picture of him as being a real psycho he the most low-down nigga on this earth bro you know that nigga what he doing that shit to his own sister like he all i stay right here no one niggas will pull up and just everybody got switches in chicago or automatic arps or drakes yeah tell her career up knock all the wooden off that bring cave the roof in like yeah yeah he different bro he different i don't know what happened to him.

56:07It was in that jail time. Something happened with him, but he different, bro. It's a f***ing up situation. He said he just trying to see his son and be a father. He had the opportunity to do that when he just got out. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, to go back to what I was saying, people make their own decisions. You know what you signed up for. Yeah. Ain't nobody make you do none of this shit that you do. Dirk not just hearing your line because he wants you to pull up and be a superstar. Yeah, I'm bitty folks coming, coming. You got to kill somebody today. Come on, man. If niggas that know Dirk, know Dirk, he be chilling.

56:41He just got money. He smooth. You know? That shit. He ain't going calling that man, making that man go on missions or nothing like that. When he got out, that's what he supposed to shit. I just missed 12 years. I'm having more kids and shit like that. I'm just finna. Dirk with them would have still gave him money. They was just here. Gave him money. Yeah, bro. You know, you one of the elites. Yeah. Make sure you're good and you're straight. So do you believe the narrative that J.M. put out there that, like, Dirk was, like, really basically wanted to get Kwondo killed because of the 6ix9ine clip specifically?

57:18Because to me it's like, yeah, maybe that's, like, the big loud viral clip talking about Slideford Vaughn. But you could imagine that, like, the pressure he feels from the streets, from random people he knows who might be DMing him and stuff like that. like i feel like six nine didn't have to be there for that narrative to to have legs i don't

57:42I'm trying to work this the right way. I don't feel like that man cared about people saying any of that shit. And I just feel like Jim made that up. Jim probably felt some type of way about that. I don't feel like this nigga Dirk was really just, ah, these niggas saying I ain't sliding for Vaughn. Like, nobody expected him to slide for Vaughn. That's his mans, but he got Vaughn and a whole other group of niggas that the world would have expected to go do some shit way before him. But it's like, this the nigga, this the, like, this why they, look, this is why they paint the picture and how they paint it.

58:18This the nigga with the money. He the rich rapper. Without him, his homies won't have no money. So that's how they trying to paint it all. In some type of way, we're going to try to put this murder on him because if his friends did do this and we got them red-handed, shit, they dumb. None of them niggas got no source of income but him. Yeah. that's where that shit coming from bro so yeah i don't feel like i feel like jam made that shit up though but it just goes into the real facts of this case how do you how do you feel about uh trapler ross getting pressed for his coverage outside of the courthouse you know how i feel about that shit man like remember when he sat down before you had you like you quit with ross and i'm like who i'm like nah he cool like i'm not one of them niggas that as long as a nigga They're not getting up there just disrespecting people, dead people, and seeing Chicago and these niggas, this, that, that.

59:13He's sitting in, well, he from London, right? He's from UK. Yeah, he from UK. He from overseas, getting shit off the internet, putting it together, and making a living off that shit. People would feel like he wrong for what he's doing, but at the end of the day, he's still giving light to a lot of niggas that people didn't know about him doing these documentaries and shit that he doing and shit like that he putting people for like he getting millions of views he putting niggas random niggas from blocks and shit that rap and turning them up and all type of shit just regular street niggas and all type of shit because he's exploiting what niggas already putting on the internet he just putting it together like look this is what they doing as the collective like with the their trial shit I was seeing some shit where they were saying like he was saying false information and this shit like that I said they was trying to press him or whatever but I said I don't agree with it you know like yeah I don't agree with I don't agree with no people following them niggas like that like even you know people try to fault child be like oh they yeah like I but I don't see it like people answer the questions that they want to answer they grow y 'all ain't putting a gun to a nigga head and making them answer certain questions and shit like that y 'all not getting niggas locked up none of that shit but that's how they look at it with the vlads and the no jumpers and uh trap lord ross and all these type of shit like you know they got mad at ross because he made a tweet where he said that little dirk is trying to blame vanney for this whole thing and everyone took it as like little dirk is snitching on vanney everyone ran with it but basically he said that it's worded he He misworded it.

1:00:53Lil Durk's defense team. It's blaming him, but it read as Lil Durk is blaming him. And that's where all the backlash started coming from. See, okay, so I'm going to just say he should have just apologized for miswording it because Durk can't get up there and say shit, so he can't say Lil Durk. Yeah. He's saying Lil Durk defense team. And how they wrong, Ivani already admitted to all that shit. Facts. If Ivani admitted to all of this shit, how is Durk defense team like, oh, shit. We don't know. look, Gianna, he said he did it. It's all him. If Ross had clarified that a little more in his original statement, it wouldn't have been as bad because what Ross said was technically true, which is like his team is putting it on Vonnie, sure, but it's like if he had said his team are going along with what Vonnie said and putting it on Vonnie because they didn't say anything outside of what Vonnie had already admitted to, if he had underlined that when he said it, it would have probably I got a little less controversy.

1:01:52Yeah, he just probably was walking outside the courthouse typing fans. And that's exactly what it was. He might not have been thinking at that moment like, oh, yeah, well, Vonnie already did cop out to this shit. So that wasn't like at the forefront of what he was saying. But, I mean, you were talking about him. But did he get up there like, you know how he be, oh, little Dirk is snitching. Not just like that. He didn't do no shit like that. So look, all right, so this is where he messed up at. So, you know, they get like little breaks in between courts. So he has time to give everyone updates.

1:02:22So he's doing a video update. In the video update, he said the defense is blaming Vonnie. Because I see some niggas I know personally that I got a lot of love from the West Coast. And they bitch ass nigga. Fuck you. I'm like, damn, they going great. They was going on. But the thing, his tweet read, like, Little Dirk is blaming Vonnie for everything. What the fuck? And then that right there. Oh, so no, that looked like he was saying. Exactly. That what the f***. The what the f*** added like. Traveller, you was wrong for that. But he didn't, it read crazy. And then you know he from over there, so we don't know how he talking.

1:02:59Like, he not from the United States. So I'm going to give him a pass every time. And then mind you, he tweeted out, go inside a courtroom. He probably in there another four or five hours. He walked out the courtroom to finding out, damn, this shit viral is f***ing. So then it's like, you know, because once you make them clips and tweets, you gone for the next three four hours into the judge the smith shot again he come out and find out like oh everyone's taking it like this see niggas gotta know like this shit niggas is looking at niggas like him to his page to keep up with what's going on that was the first page I was looking at to see what was going on in the trial and shit so it's like then I started seeing others like now my algorithm is showing me other people that's actually there so I'm just looking at everybody's shit now but he gotta know like nigga you gotta be flawless with what you say and how you say it, especially when it's pertaining to Dirk.

1:03:50Yeah, because people was on him about that one tweet for sure. Of course, because, you know, like, you can't get out there. And then Dirk ended up, I guess, making a statement through Doodle telling everybody to leave Ross alone and shit because he was getting, like, pressed outside the courthouse. You know what I'm saying? Because, like, Dirk, he a player, bro. He ain't pushing. He showing him, like, I ain't pushing the button on niggas. I'm telling my people and my fans, relax. We ain't doing that. we already here because of some violent shit like I'm just trying to come home y 'all chill like that'll look bad on him too did you see the last uh last Doody Low thing boy did you see how they tried to get on Doody Low trying to hug India and I'm like that might be the best thing from the whole thing the best meme hey nigga that man skin bone retarded I didn't see this kid he I probably did he did he did the run yes alright I seen it man he hugged hug the lady like four times in the m**** on the skit.

1:04:47But I look at it like, okay, cool. Look, if you don't hug her around Dirk, it's not okay. And I get that situation. This your sister and you want to, you know what I'm saying? I got you, sister. You see I'm out, heifer, bro. You know this shit. Because it don't look like Dirk getting a lot of support from a lot of niggas you would think he was supposed to get support from type shit. In a sense of what, though? Because you expect what street niggas hopping outside of federal? Yeah, I ain't saying it like that. I'm just saying like you don't even a lot of niggas don't even be hollering free smirk and shit like that.

1:05:16You know what I'm saying? Like so it's just like like he if he don't hug her around dirt, then it's not OK. If he's never hugged her before for real, it's not because she was like, you feel me? Like I'm from the RAC. I know. That's me. She's like, what's up, bro? Like nigga. Yeah, look crazy. Man, look crazy. It's either what the fuck you hugging me for Or she just Overwhelmed her husband fighting for his life That's probably What it possibly is and it just look crazy So it just make him look crazy Yeah but I don't feel like it was no No malicious or Lint on Doody Low Doody Low loves smirk Nigga Dirk and Doody Low still be on the phone And still shit so it's like How much That's what I'm saying when everybody's trying to make it seem like He possibly could be It's like, bro, Dirk and Doody still on the line.

1:06:13And I've got a personal relationship with Doody, though, so I've never seen him do, like, no backdoor f***ing niggas, bitches, shit, and shit like that. That's his man's wife. Yeah. I don't think he did. You know what I'm saying? It was just his man said, sis, what's up? So it's like, uh-uh. But his camera's around, so everything's going to look crazy. The last thing I got out of that clip was like, oh, they might be f***ing. I got, I got. She hates his ass for pretty obvious reasons. You know, she, whether directly or indirectly, she views him as one of the people that took Dirk away from his family and into the streets.

1:06:44I don't think so. I don't think she look at Doody Low like that. Hell no, because he's not on the case. You know what I'm saying? But just in general, she probably lumps him in with all these other gangster ass fools he's hanging out around that she kind of resents that his life went the way that it went over the last few years because of, you know, she's not going to necessarily put the blame on him. She's going to blame the bad influences around him. But Doody Low Wouldn't be one of the bad influences If that's the case She'll know that Doody Low is a good nigga bro Good nigga Hey you got somebody else out?

1:07:13Yeah yeah yeah Are you spoiled up? Yeah yeah Alright bet bet bet Yeah let them in

1:07:21Alright so I got a few more things That I definitely gotta Get to you with About right So you was on live Nah you wasn't even on live Q50 was on live With your baby mama Jasmine I don't know how they ended up on a lot. But he didn't know that was your baby mom's, right? So she put it out there, she said, yeah, my baby dad from Chicago, whatever. And then the comments start spamming your name. He like, who your baby dad? I don't know where the y 'all animosity come from, but I guess he started reading the comments and then he started laughing. Then after he started laughing, one of his words is like, he's like, I don't know what the she mad at me for and shit.

1:08:02She the one who decided to have a baby with a grown ass goofy. The nigga ain't never did nothing. Like popping it like that. So I'm like, all right, where the fuck y 'all attention come from? Why would Q50 even be on that with you? Like where this come from? But you've seen the after that when I got, when I started posting videos and shit. Like he from basically one of my old outfits. Oh, okay. You know what I'm saying? But he's a kid. Trap City? No, Drill City. All right. He's a kid. Oh, yeah, Drill City. He not from. All right, where? He's the kid, nah, there ain't nothing to do with 600. This some Evers mob shit.

1:08:36Oh, word. It's 79th. Okay. So this is just, this ain't got nothing to do with 59th, none of that. This was strictly 79th. And the only niggas that I ever had a problem with up there type shit. So it was shit going on. But I just look at it like, sure he knew who the fuck I was. That's why he threw that shot out there. So his older guys kind of like know you can tell shit. Yeah. So his older people from 79? For sure, yeah. I don't know what they got going on You know what I'm saying But I don't know I'm not letting nobody just say anything About me and all that shit But he a shorty so I left that shit where it's at I had to realize he's a kid bro That nigga 22 Yeah I wasn't even around The same That's what I told him bro When I was you weren't even born 14, 15 we was spanking him But I ain't gonna get into all that That shit oh shit it is what it is But when you saw the bloodhounds blowing up, were you thinking like, ah, ops blowing up?

1:09:33Or are you like, it's so many years in between my generation and their generation, I don't give a fuck. None of these little niggas. They little niggas. You know what I'm saying? Like, they shorties. Them niggas just left out their teens. Because you're what? You know what I'm saying? Early 30s? 35. 35. And how old? So there's a huge 22, 23, huge age gap right there. Come on, bro. So I'm not beefing with no kids at that. In Chicago, that's like 100 years. That shit, you feel me? It's like a huge difference. Niggas don't make it to my age, bro. You know what I'm saying? Y 'all seen a lot of niggas done sat in front of y 'all and they make it back.

1:10:07You know what I'm saying? Niggas don't make it to this shit, bro. So I just looked at that shit like, you know, I wasn't even supposed to do that with that little nigga on the internet. But they just like, this don't play with me, though, just because I'm chillin'. 79 shit confusing, because now I'm hearing Q50 from over there, then Jim from over there. It's like, who the fuck? Because it's a lot of Chicago, like how Vaughn had the world looking at 63rd. 63rd is not just Duck and them shit 63rd go through the whole Chicago From one end to the next That's how all the streets is 79th, 63rd, 54th, all that shit It's just like it go up in numbers And then it go over in names So Jim would be from 79th and Vernon Probably 10 or 11 blocks east Would be Where the Bloodhound shit's supposed to be Maryland and Ingleside.

1:10:58All right, word, but it's still just 79. All right. It's still 79. So they ain't really not connected, but they just want to say. No, but them niggas is together, though. Them MTV niggas in the blood and that day, but that's some, you know. Word. They in cahoots. But a lot of niggas not in cahoots. Like, it's like with 63rd, it'll be like niggas from right here on St. Lawrence don't f*** with these niggas from Western and shit like that. Like, you know what I'm saying? It just, a lot of niggas don't know each other. Chicago is huge. That's what people got to understand. It seems small because we had so much beef in our area, but we just one area.

1:11:36That shit get way more. You got things up north, out west, the suburbs, south suburbs, west suburbs, like way over east. When you go back and look at hindsight and you see how everything's playing out with like OTF. You see how Cheeky played it. And then you also look at like how 600 played it. It seemed like y 'all didn't take as many losses like early on y 'all did. But then it seemed like everybody kind of like grew up and moved accordingly. Kind of like how Cheeky and them did. Versus now you see how everybody else is like still like niggas is dying or getting caught up. It seemed like. It's knowledge bro.

1:12:19It's just you got to learn how to adapt. Like we really in the jungle for real So you gotta really learn how to Live out there with them snakes Them venomous snakes and wolves and shit bro So it was like you know we took the hardest hits fast So when the 600 came about We lost five six niggas A year and a half two years So it looked like damn we So that's what made niggas turn up for real That's because our little niggas was just out there Dangling when we telling them like They not playing they coming through this bitch blowing Like oh we just did this Y 'all need to get put up They was just out there still Cause our blocks is fun blocks Outside Barbecuing, music playing Kids all type of shit And niggas was always coming through there catching something Cause folks in them just thought that shit was You know But not the case with everybody But with majority of our shorty But are you proud of how like 600 Is kind of like Cause you see how my niggas together Niggas that we done lost and Dwin did 10 years, 12 years, 5 I had six, seven years in jail.

1:13:22Like you see, Beans just did 17 years, just came home. It feel good to still see niggas that I grew up with. Like, yeah, some niggas died. We missed Ide and Stello and Lil Boo and like, you know, all these type of people, like Lil Steve. But it's like we still got niggas. We still got, like I still got my sandbox niggas, my day ones, you know what I'm saying? Like we just lost to just a few people. But it's like, bro, them, I doubt because they still outside. They still in the right. Like, I just stick and move. I come in and I'm out. Folks and them still outside every day. They ain't going to post on them blocks and shit, like doing little nigga shit.

1:14:05But they still, they partying. They downtown. They at events and shit. Like, 600 be outside. So, it be feeling good to see that shit. That's why I go with them. We pop out. It be a movie. Even when we go to the hood, that shit be a movie. sometimes it be overly a movie. Yeah, bro. Because last time we seen you popped up out of here, we had missed reviews. Let's talk about it. So look, you did some gangsta shit. You came up here, did a whole interview. You had a cast on your foot. I asked you about - And I didn't get shot in my foot, bro. Man, shit. That's what I heard, nigga. I don't know why a nigga said that.

1:14:45So look, all right, you did an interview. You had a cast on your foot, right? But you never mentioned that you got hit up, nothing to fuck. You know what I'm saying? So we don't know. Before you... So pretty much there was an interview or a vlog with you, Grove Hero, and 051. Woo had walked up. It cut off. You go to jail, and then all of a sudden... They dropped the real footage. The footage leak of what actually happened at that interview or during the vlog. And shots ring out. So now it look like niggas started knowing that you got hit up. Then also a thing that was big, Grove Hero went online and he was kind of complaining at you.

1:15:26He was like, man, this nigga Breezy got me getting shot out and shit. I hanging out with his ops and shit. Nigga got me in some shit. So like, for one, now we see that it was an actual altercation when you and Woo met. That was threw everyone off. And did you feel like Grove Hero did too much or said too much? So like in the beginning, I was mad at Grove Hero and shit because that was my first time meeting him. You know what I'm saying? So long story short, where that park at, it's a softball league. My pops and them shit up there. So I had a lot of people, family up there and shit like that too.

1:16:01But that's on the end of Washington Park. Washington Park go from 51st to 60th and King Drive all the way over the cottage. So that's 51st and cottage. That's food and them shit. That's the wild shit. So I'm really out of bounds on some real shit. Keeping it real, I'm out of bounds. But, you know, me, I ain't going to f*** about none of that, whatever. So, Shark called me up there. You know what I'm saying? It's my real cousin, my real blood. Shout out Shark on land, man. So, he tell me, like, yeah, Grove Hero, but he doing a tour with his trucks and shit. Ooh, pull up and blah, blah, blah. I'm like, I was just finna pull up on the block anyway.

1:16:37So, I hit my pops like, you at the party? Yeah, I'm finna pull up. He, man, pull up, nigga. So, I pull up. Pull up. Pop's jumping the car with me. I pull around. Jump out. I'm hollering that Grove Hero and shit. You know what I'm saying? they doing the whole vlog and shit they talking to me about some peace in the hood shit i'm telling them like yeah look this my hot shit right here i don't even supposed to be right here you know yeah but i'm like whatever but whatever for the kids whatever however you want to do you know now everything on camera that shit just happened just like that all right you know but i i ain't mad at girl hero at all i was at first because of the little he was like troppin but that's who he is.

1:17:16That's the person. He a comedian. He play on the internet. But niggas know what went on. Yeah, but you didn't put it out there. The internet, the videos came out. So it's not like you went... Yeah, because there was some street shit. I can't... So I can mention what they seen already. Yeah, because it's out there now. We seen the footage. But the thing that is shocking, or not shocking, but the thing that's kind of like f***ed up about it, because we Who walked up on y 'all and didn't y 'all have a conversation where it looked like y 'all was trying to patch up shit somewhat? No, it was going left.

1:17:49It was going left. Instantly? Yeah, because it was cool in the beginning, but it was going left because when he got there like, but did I disrespect? I felt like he was playing stupid with me now because you did some trolling shit on the internet some weeks before when me and him had just had words. I'd never seen Woo face to face in my life. So the first time we ever seen each other. So it's like, you know, but I'm getting calls from niggas like, oh yeah, you know, they doing that unity, P-Shin in Chicago, and they all, yeah, woo woo. Every time they say his name, like, yeah, if y 'all talk to them, y 'all gonna have to holler at him and this, and that, and that.

1:18:21I never was gonna be the nigga that was gonna step in front of anybody and talk to anybody, right? I'm not trusting that shit after having with Devon, with D-Thing, with R-D-Thing. So, it is what it is, but it's just like, when he walked up, he didn't say shit to me. You see it in the video, he talking to them, like, what's this? Pointing at their cameras and shit. and I stepped in like hold on hold on and I said that I'm like damn niggas told me you niggas hollering at you about squashing shit and you know yeah there he is but last I sent you was on the internet I'm yeah cause you was playing with me so that's where the conversation going at cause he know what he did and words was exchanged so you know but that shit that shit happened you know Do you feel like maybe you're at a place in your life where you shouldn't just be on the block in a park that's like directly across from your ops.

1:19:13I was never supposed to be right there. Right. I'm bogus for that. Like it could have went a different way if, you know what I'm saying? If there were better shots. If I was, it just, that shit could have went. If I wasn't who I was, that shit would have went like, my folks out there, so it's like, I shouldn't have did that. I'm tweaking. I'm tweaking. You got on Shark ass too because in the clip, Shark let him walk up a little bit too long. Niggas look back. You got to think I went to jail right after this. Yeah. So I really ain't even talk to cuz about that shit. But me looking at it, it's like, nigga, you sink these niggas.

1:19:47You ain't say nothing. And then shots. So it could have went even extra worse. I'm just glad they didn't put out the like, you know, because that shit. I seen the old footy. It's not. Yeah, I know. But either way, how do you feel? because like all right woo ended up passing away while he was locked up yeah so it went viral because a lot of people so i guess woo why he was like you know i guess he was living a double life he got street shit going on but he also was like going to college working a job or whatever so when he got killed people that was actually like classmates with him someone made a post and they were like it's crazy because this guy woo was like i go to school with him and he's the nicest guy ever.

1:20:35Like, I would never even have known that he was in, like, some type of street war going on. Like, he was, like, living his life where he - Because you gotta have two sides to yourself. You can't be a gang - Like, a lot of people don't make it. Like, especially, like, gangsta rappers and shit. There's niggas that feel like they just gotta be too tough and all day and don't know how to be in certain rooms. You gotta have that - that being able to talk to a bank teller side of you. Yeah. Be able to talk to a mayor or some shit like that. Like, you know what I'm saying? You got to have the, oh, yeah, I'm a street nigga, but I can hold a conversation.

1:21:15I can conduct myself. But how many niggas you think actually, like, trying to, like, conduct, I mean, trying to better themselves and go back to school? Because he was getting a trade and all shit. Like, is a lot of niggas doing that secretly? Could you be hearing niggas? A lot of niggas is doing that. But sure, like, you know, he been through shit. So when you a street nigga and been through shit and took losses and been outside and had to do shit, like, you get to a certain point in life where you got kids and shit. Like, you know, like, niggas can't do this shit. This shit look corny when we get to a certain age.

1:21:44It's like some shit just be happening randomly now. We ain't just outside looking for it. We getting money and shit just still be happening because of old situations. But niggas just ain't outside, like, with the shorties. That's shorty shit. Like, nigga, outside of the shorties, toting pipes, putting guns in the videos, and just on the block all day selling nicks and dimes and shit, bro. Like, no, you got to elevate. So what he was doing, he was doing right. He was doing right. He was securing a bag for him and his. It just so happened. Shit happens. Yeah, because it's not that many people who actually, like, just go get a job and, like, try to go straight.

1:22:25Like, we hear a lot of people, like, They go get their CDLs and they might be on some truck driving shit, but it ain't really too much. How many people really going to get a real full-time job? Exactly. You know what I'm saying? A lot of niggas, they got too much pride for that shit. I know I do. I've never had a job in my life. But is it pride or is it too dangerous? Because you too famous. Yeah, now it's dangerous, but it's like the way I live my life, I ain't never needed no job. Yeah. I'm blessed. I'm blessed to not have to work on 9 to 5. But do you feel like even niggas that's like a part of y 'all age group or a part of any of that shit can go get a 9 to 5 in a burr like not that far away or it'll probably still catch up to you?

1:23:08I know a lot of niggas that got 9 to 5 right now. And they still prospering and tight shit. Niggas work in Walmart. But you just gotta know where you at. Because if you ain't a nigga that killed 5, 6 niggas and got down on niggas you ain't really You know what I'm saying? Just because you from somewhere and you was outside with them niggas and you probably shot a gun or something before, nigga ain't just going to. They ain't just looking for you. Yeah, we finna drive out 45 minutes, 50 minutes to sit on this nigga job and kill him and have to make it all the way back. Niggas ain't doing that for real, bro.

1:23:40Like, it got to be some real, like, oh, no, we got to get dude ass. Like, he did that shit.

1:23:48A lot of niggas got jobs and trades and shit like that. A lot of niggas I know personally. I be telling niggas like I'm proud of you bro Niggas be really doing the right thing But that's okay We getting older bro You gotta think we been this Chicago drill Shit been going on for how long now y 'all It's 2000 and 15 years You feel me? 2011 I feel like is the jumping off point I came in strong in 15 So it was like you know what I'm saying Like it's 11 years for me Like just look at who's still here Who not How niggas died Who doing what that have certain people doing that still here. Like just, you know, it's a blessing, bro.

1:24:28It's a blessing to be like, to come from outta that shit. Did you see the video the other day where Chee Keith, he went to Chicago to go perform for Ye, but he was sitting outside the liquor store and shots rang out. But they wasn't blowing at him though. Yeah, but it just. I seen the real video and heard the audio and shit. You hear Sosa too, they blowing at us, boy. They blowing it up. They like, nah, we outta here. you know but it's the right you feel me that shit probably he probably got in the truck ooh I'm beating him he probably love that shit but he's still like I'm finna go home fuck that shit yeah at this point it's just like this shit still have like he know he ain't missing shit in Chicago like it feel good to go home and get embraced he got a show on the 12 that bitch in front of him where you performing at it's like some theater or some shit like that I think it's downtown or either out west up north somewhere but it's on the 12th though so for the longest yeah for the longest there wasn't even letting him perform in chicago at one point right he performed twice though at that uh summer smash but that was all recent yeah cold minutes so recently he's been he didn't like the last two three years he didn't step foot in chicago for probably over 10 years but he also like didn't perform for like like pretty much since the beginning of his career i don't think he ever really did a show in chicago yeah because he ain't want no reason to bro you You know, the police was with him and shit like that.

1:25:49So it's like. I mean, this drill rapper is way less popular than him that they ain't let him play either. Yeah, for sure. But they would have tried to do what they do in the dirt to him. If he still would have been in the mix with niggas and shit that was going on and shit like that. They wanted him bad. They wanted Sosa bad. He used to be on the block. They used to pull up helicopters and shit trying to get this nigga. But there's so many people outside, they can't get him. Can't get him. Yeah. Them days used to be fun and shit. Speaking of Sosa, you hear that lyric on the new Push Icy album?

1:26:18You think he was shooting at Chief Keefe with that? What'd he say? He said, like, I turned my city up and stayed down. I can't go out like Sosa. I mean, take it how you want to take it. And some people would be like, he just saying, like, oh, I ain't going to leave my city. I'm going to take it over. It's just like a random shot. But there's my theory. Push Icy don't know what's going on in Chicago, probably really outside of who? Dirk? Yeah, by Memphis. Is there any chance that Dirk... Memphis is like a smaller Chicago. Right. But I'm just imagining he's had private conversations with Dirk, and Dirk probably told him what he really thinks of Chief Keef.

1:26:55And I feel like Pooh Shiesty is the one who will actually just say that shit in a bar because he really don't give a f***. He seems kind of unhinged. Where are you getting this from? This is my theory. But they've f***ed with each other for mad years. Although I had people telling me right before Dirk got indicted that Sosa and Dirk were cool, that they had done songs that they like were probably going to pop out and like do something and it never happened but he got indicted so I'm sure that would have put a halt to it anyway you know it's a lot of egos and shit bro and with all of the bigger players from our side niggas ain't did songs together in a long time speaking of Recy Dirk, Keefe, everybody like just niggas together because it's always a little personal shit.

1:27:38Everybody got a little secret beef or some shit going on because it's like you know when you you you niggas been friends for everything's been cool shit don't happen yeah there's money involved business involved street shit all type of shit bro so shit if they saying derg was mad at vaughn he definitely mad at uh sosa if you felt like vaughn if he was mad at niggas for not sliding for vaughn i know you mad at sosa then that's what they saying i'm probably i never i can never be mad at sosa he did it right man he's got his money and got the fuck on down but he always been that smart he also just has always seemed like he's on another fucking planet where like you kind of just assume that he don't know or care about what everybody else is talking about yes this nigga got a fleet of cars that niggas a dream of having his his house be looking like arcades like you know what i'm saying like when you run into chief keith he'll say some shit to that will make you remember like, oh yeah, you ain't thinking about the same shit as everybody else.

1:28:43You're on your own path. Yo, I wanted to know how you felt about King Yellow coming out and saying that he's broke and that his son went down for a bunch of armed robberies and allegedly NBA Youngboy put up$30K to bail his son out. He raised me. He raised me. That's some good content.

1:29:06I'm a grown man in front of you right now. I'm going to do a lot. You know how much I hate this nigga. You know how much I, but I can never laugh at a man for going broke ever. It don't matter how goofy or how, I can't laugh at that because I know how that shit be. I went flat broke a few times. I just came home broke. yeah I'm back I'm back nobody's like I came home with shit you know you come home from jail you don't have shit spending lawyer fees all type of shit still taking care of bills when you in jail gotta take care of yourself so I was like well his situation like you know never know nigga might need to go get a job because you feel me because you even work at a warehouse or something like that because that shit that that YouTube stream and shit that you know vlogging and shit that shit is that that less than little money that shit all right okay what couple thousand or two three thousand like you got to do numbers though yeah like youtube don't pay what it used to pay so it's like you got to do real real real numbers and if you just doing some tiny numbers you're getting 1700 2000 a month you can't really do with that you got kids you grown you might know so another thing that stood out that he said he said uh that bloodhound jeff and Vonov 1700 ruined his son's life.

1:30:25You can't say that. Them niggas, he let his son be influenced by other niggas like that. You know what I'm saying? He was supposed to be teaching him, no, no, you don't be influenced by nothing that they do. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. No, that's on his part. None of your kids old enough to be paying attention to what's going on? My son a nerd. Yeah. He don't know about nothing. he goes to one like the third best science high school in Illinois like he's 14 that's kind of like the cut off point where he might change no I love where he's going in life he's going to do something with it so you know what I'm saying all the shit he's saying he's saying you gotta think I just went to jail again And that's all I'm writing them on the tablet.

1:31:21Tell them, son, just remember, look, how many times out your life I done left you for some fast money. Like, you know, you enjoy that shit when you get, but realize what I'm doing ain't right. Like, yeah, like the music and shit cool, but, you know, that shit public record. I got all drug charges, bro. You know what I'm saying? So it was like, that was just my life path of shit that I chose to do. I know what the fuck I was saying to no folks, so I'd never get up here and complain when I got to take my hit. What's your biggest regret?

1:31:53My biggest regret be, because I've always went to jail with other niggas. I always walked into open cases with other people, and I'd just be one of the small people, and go, oh, shit. So it'd be dumb shit. My regret be not being as smart as I know I can be and stop moving fast and doing shit for fast money. A lot of that shit, it ain't worth it. I miss a lot of time on my kid's life. I done f***ed up. Shit. When I was the most turnt in this shit, fed up. Went to jail for two years. You know what I'm saying? Like, every time I get here with the music and all that shit, I go to jail. Every time, bro.

1:32:37Every time you got to think 20, 2017, 2021, 2025. It's like a repeated cycle. You know what I'm saying? So, like, I wish I could have did some other shit. But I chose my rope, bro. Like, that's just, you know, it ain't too late to change. But it's just, like, I just regret not being because I was an honor roll student. So, my kids being intelligent don't, like, I knew they was going to be smart because they mama's smart, too. Yeah. So, it's just, like, I could have been a architect or something. I could have did some shit that made me some real money. it probably would have took time and I would have had to go to college and shit like that, but that wasn't the environment I grew up in.

1:33:22You kind of got, like, forced in this shit, right? Yeah, for sure. That's because of where I'm from. You know what I'm saying? I didn't have the upbringing to be able to go do that shit. I ain't graduated from high school. So, you know, it is what it is. I ain't complaining about the living of my life, though. This might be a crazy question, but if you could bring one of the guys back, who would you bring back? that's hard bro I can't just pick one it gotta be a bundle even if it's from Jill or bring them back from it gotta be a bundle like I can't just if I could bring nigga nigga Ide Stello Libu like just at one if I could bring LA back I wouldn't even have been a rapper I would've been supporting folks like it's it's hard you can't say because I love all my niggas equally.

1:34:18Everybody had a story that is just like a what if with folks now. Yeah, I can't even just pick one nigga. Not even niggas in jail, but you got to think. I can't pick C-Day from 9. I love both of them. I can't pick 9 and C-Day from D-Rose. You know what I'm saying? It's just f***ed up, bro. Which loss hurt the hardest? even if you lost a nigga to jail or you lost a nigga to gun violence but which one you felt like just that was the one that hit you to hurt I would say with the jail shit D Rose hurt the hardest because he an innocent man and he really would have been out here doing something like he would have probably been with Sosa or some shit like that doing he'd probably been a big rapper just a nigga like Tato but big anything just you know that's coming from where you're from But it's like with death, man, bro.

1:35:21See, Devon hurt me for the fact that he took his last moments in my arms and shit. So you physically got to? Like that, and that was one of our first real, real, real losses. But then it's like niggas like Ide too, like this is my brother. Like we made it so far. and you died on some fluky shit that ain't, you know, have shit to do with nothing, not even in the hood, none of that. And you think like, damn, we made it already. So it's like, a lot of shit be an eye opener because it's like, no, it ain't, can't never put your guard down. Can't never get comfortable. Like, especially if you're just in the city of Chicago, that city don't love you.

1:36:03We love that city, but that city don't love us. And it's fucked up. But, man, he they hurt the whole block. But then even Damo, like, Damo was just unexpected. Them key pieces to the neighborhood, bro. Like, that really came from since I was five, four, six years old. We grew together. Like, shit. Yeah. That shit, it just be like, I don't know, bro. I wish I could bring all my niggas back. I wish I could rewind time from now to know what I know. all the way back to before we even lost anybody. What would you have did different or told everybody? It's like, if I could have the same knowledge that I have and we all do, like, how can we slip up?

1:36:49But then again, certain shit will happen. Y 'all was getting forced into situations, right? Yeah, for sure. Our neighborhood was cool. We was smooth. Nigga, the police even liked us because we was always outside. We was kids. We was doing kid shit. Like hooping and shit, right? Yeah, of course. Nigga, even when we couldn't play on the court, we had a crate on the pole in the alley. You know what I'm saying? Niggas flipping on mattresses and riding bikes and shit, mongooses and shit, bro. Niggas was doing kid shit. Niggas just didn't like us because our neighborhood had that feel, that real family upbringing.

1:37:23Everybody lived right here somewhere, and we all grew up in some of the world. We cousins or some shit like that, bro. We were like, oh. Wow.

1:37:36Yeah. So, do you think Youngboy made good use of his 30K with King Yellow's son? He bonded, man. Sneaking Adam. I'm stuck on that. I'm stuck on that. Sneaking Adam. I can't get it out of my head. Hold on. That's real? Or he bullshit? Yellow wouldn't tell us during it, but he did kind of make it obvious. I don't know why we didn't guess it. He's like, it's somebody who's like a lot of people's favorite rapper. so that automatically kind of narrows it down to like a couple people and then like yeah he like dropped a few other hints so i was like damn all right that's that's who we got the 30k but then meanwhile we're interviewing y 'all and his son and his son is smoking blunts drinking lean how old is he was he like 19 i think like 19 he's like hella young yeah he's grown bro it's just like if you i don't know just the optics of him drinking lean and smoking blunts and i'm like bro like Like, you can't be chilling like this.

1:38:32You got to work. Like, you're in a bad spot. You need to get your shit together. I'm not the perfect parent at all, so I can't sit here and, you know, but that's on him and with his son. Like, I'm not letting my son do that in front of me. It's just, especially if you still need me to come bond your little ass out and you ain't got no money. Yeah. You're going to listen to what the fuck I'm talking about. but I don't know man did you see did you see the message when I had hit up Buka for an interview if you go look on his page right now it's the last post he sent my DM or he screenshotting my DM of me asking him we're gonna do an interview and he posted something like he declined the interview but he said I wish more niggas would say no to doing interviews and talking to these type of people or whatever something like that how do you feel about Buka not wanting to do anything.

1:39:28Is that smart? Is he moving smart knowing everything that happened with what's going on? He ain't caught up in that case. Right. So he obviously moved smart. Yeah. I ain't never caught no case from this type of shit. Y 'all still ain't ain't no relationship with Buka though? For nobody? I don't know about nobody else but you know I just Not on your end. So I'm on my own shit. It's still the same. It's still the same. It is what it is. Yeah. Yeah. I just look at niggas like alright you know I still love them or whatever. Just shit. I stay out your way, you stay out, man. Just from addition. Yeah, for sure, for sure.

1:40:01Don't let nobody do nothing to them. You know, but I just, some niggas you just gotta weigh your hand at. I'm getting too old for that shit, bro. We done seen Tay and all y 'all get back cool, so I feel like it's still hope for y 'all. It's hope for a lot of niggas. But it's like, you know, they gotta want that. Because we be together. So they don't look crazy on the niggas that's together. It look crazy on the few people that just not with us. Like, you know? Yeah. You got a problem with niggas, come to the block, tell niggas, you know? We grown men, niggas are fighting hug after that. Never.

1:40:39Niggas ain't gonna up no guns and do all that shooting, pop no wing, we don't do it. Never heard of that on 600. We never backdolled each other, never shot each other, none of that shit. So, like, there's real genuine love without block. Word. um okay well how you feel about uh the the the little zay osama getting arrested for this uh crypto heist thing that kind of was like a a window into another side of what goes down in chicago we didn't know that the crypto heists were really going down i didn't know what i still ain't really i was locked up so i don't know what what happened with that oh uh what they ran up in a guy's apartment and like and forced him to like allegedly forced him to like transfer over some crypto and then niggas got the talent and he got booked so how the f*** he get booked he was there like he was on the phone i think he was on the phone instructing niggas to do it and then it ended up him getting booked but he wasn't the nigga that ran in the house i don't knock no niggas houses man yeah he's still a bitch though yeah because y 'all the reason y 'all was beefing right before with his things he had said and he dropped this song so i was locked up and shit like that.

1:41:47I'm just waiting on him going. Weird. I'll highlight him from now. But yeah. Uh-uh. Nah. Damn.

1:42:00But free him though. I don't want nobody in jail. I'm not no nigga hustling. They should get some crypto money or whatever. That's cool. But yeah. Did you see the video G-Money in a fight? we never really talked about that on here i ain't talking about it with nobody but the reason i bring it up is because it's when cheeky went back to summer like exactly so it's just like every time cheeky go to chicago something even though it wasn't his clique directly but doo-wop was kind of in the vicinity i was too because it's like bloodbath members with and they all cool i'm still confused to this day to what happened i I still don't know.

1:42:43Because it's like, I ain't been canned. I'm like, what the f*** happened? Yeah. That shit just looked crazy, though. Because it's Manksy and it's G-Money. Like, what the f*** y 'all got going on? You know any of them people? You probably know G-Money. I don't know. But they homies. Yeah. So I don't know what's going on with that. You feel me? Like, there was a lot of stories about these niggas jump these niggas. And then these just jump them. After that.

1:43:07I'm like, no. I don't even. I'm going to stand out that shit. Man, that's crazy. I don't even want to know what the fuck is going on. Summer's Magic is getting hot. Cole Bennett don't know who he got. He don't know who he got. Also bringing street niggas in there with him. Yeah, I'm telling you. That's what's going on. So I'm just bringing. Cole Bennett, like, from the early days, like, he started a rap business out of Chicago, but never really did almost anything that really touched the drill shit. Now, in modern times, like, he had a Q50 freestyle or, like, Vonov 1700 freestyle type shit. but like really he ain't really like dipped his toe into all that too much over the years obviously like dark and so so sure but like he never really like seemed like he wanted to be frontlining for the new drill artist it's a complicated business to be in you could ask me I'll tell you that yeah you have to like cross over a little mainstream for him to pick you up and want to do some shit like he'll bring up like Von off 17 and shit but like everybody ain't just yeah he was Pikachu he was really smart though It's smart Cause a lot of niggas You don't want to have Your name attached To none of that Shoot em up Bang bang shit no more Yeah How do you feel about Famous Dix He's somebody that's Just been like He's always in and out The blogs But he stay out the way A little bit too He don't really be dissing A video leaked During this interview Of him getting beat up I just think The fuck out here bro Oh shit I'm missing Yeah he got beat up For stealing from a rapper In Vegas I guess And he all bloody And they whooping him In like a parking lot Oh shit It's like you know Like They painted it like, oh, these niggas from over here, so we ain't supposed to like them and shit like that.

1:44:43I've never been that person. I've always liked Beck's old music and shit like that. So, just to see just the shit he be going through, it's like, one minute he look like he be off drugs and he f***ed up or he go on through shit. Like, I don't be liking that shit, bro. Like, just as black men, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, gotta change the whole narrative with that shit. You don't want to be one of them. Oh, I was this rock style artist and now I'm f***ed up off drugs like the rest of these niggas. I don't be liking that shit bro I don't know He get a lot of flack cause they feel like he left a lot of his guys See I don't know the story Cause I don't know that nigga But it's like Shit if he did then Karma always come back around So I seen him screaming and ranting about people Stealing his money and shit before And all that type of shit like that Niggas on him and shit like that But He shouldn't love AOKD

1:45:42that's the main nigga I used to see him with back in the day on the block it was him A-O-K-D and Reggie baby yeah he used to be Reggie love too yeah but they got they all got they own little shit going on though so I don't know I don't know what happened shit happened with niggas bro I mean Dex got away from the GD's as fast as possible he's like oh I got a million views see y 'all later no this wasn't his he didn't want to come out on no I'm gangbanging He made a whole different type of music. He didn't come out on those shoot them up, bang, bang. He was making some whole other genre, bro. But he was getting hot being around.

1:46:21The street shit was ducking him. So it was like he was using that, heating up off of that. So then that's why niggas got mad. Like, how you get on and then turn the eye to what the fuck we had going on. Oh, well. I'm selling out white crowds. They making mosh pits. it's different music, bro. That's a different type of money. I mean, it probably would have gone down the same way either way, but if he had stayed closer to, like, the street music scene and they had stayed interested in what he had going on, that probably would have been a good thing for his career because the whole, like, drill community, to the extent that that was a real thing, they kind of, like, lost interest pretty quick.

1:46:58He decided he wanted to be a SoundCloud rapper. Yeah. You know? A SoundCloud rapper was a thing to be. That was the thing to be right then, yeah. I think what happened is you start losing aura if you don't got your block or people supporting you that look like they on some shit. So if you a one man band, it started looking like, all right, I don't know. What this nigga do? He ain't got his niggas around him no more. You know what I'm saying? So I think that was his biggest downfall, but then also it probably saved him because he would have been in either a Rico or shit. Could have been dead. Yeah.

1:47:26But ultimately it's like, he's just an example of like, oh yeah, it's kind of cute and fun when you're doing Perks and Zans and drinking lean, but you do that for 10, 15 years, it's not cool anymore, and you're just going to be a crackhead. So, yeah. It's that they overdo it. You overdo the drugs. I know niggas have been doing drugs their whole life. You know, it's what you choose to do with your life. You ain't never hit the K2 in jail? A lot of niggas be in jail off the K2. Nigga, my celly, bro. I always finna have to, man. You know, the nigga my celly have, they call them eps, like episodes.

1:48:00This nigga that I fucked out three times in the cell. What type of shit he doing? The cell is so cool, though. Like, they like him, bro. They 600. You're going to go to the hole with him. Get him right. Like, I'm putting cold towels on this nigga's head, pouring water on him. He throwing up all over the... Damn, you having to deal with it? No, I got the fuck about that shit, yeah. Yeah. I want to see him. Look, bro. Look. How the fuck I'm going to get up out of here? Like, send me upstairs or something. Like, I ain't even... They all you you go get a 24-hour lock in you go. I mean, just send me upstairs Yeah, they put in an incident report like me and this nigga was from the fight or something They move you and shit, but I got to talk about that sale, bro But then I got next sale those minds by myself before I got to sell you something.

1:48:48I make the rules. Oh, yeah Ain't no smoking there Yeah, all that smoke that shit. I don't know why niggas is smoking that K2 shit, bro Like I get it you get on the streets, whatever but that shit is not... I don't know what that shit is, bro. I don't know what that shit is. It might be cheap as fuck in there to get. Why is that the go-to drug? Because it's like... Cheap and easy to get in there. It's on paper and shit like that, so it's easy to get that shit in there. So it's way more common to eat the paper, or you smoke the paper, but not the actual weed type shit, the flour? No, weed. Ain't no flour, none of that.

1:49:24It's like, bring you in a notebook. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's paper. And it's a huge headache for the jails now because they have to like search all the paper. Man, jails is bringing that shit in. And niggas can't go outside. But even then, they'll mail it in too. So it's like some jails, they won't give you paper anymore. You can't get physical mail. And none of the jails I've been in. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they copy it and then give it to you. You don't get the actual mail type shit. So yeah, hell no, bro. Like that K2 shit, I really like. if you've got family and you know people that's doing that shit, like, tell them to stop using that shit.

1:49:59I'm really watching people turn into real zombies and retard. Like, they mentally is gone. That shit frying they brain. That shit not okay. That shit not okay. And that's in jail's bad. Man, it's not the inmates, man. It's them COs, bro. Did you hear Mama Duck and Wack crashing out on each other the other day? I was just... Nah, you was getting a little disrespectful. what they got going on. Like how it happened. I seen the clip, but it's like, you know, I don't, you know, I don't get into all of that. I don't know. It was just, they was dissing each other's sons and whack took it to them. He dissing duck heavy.

1:50:35I'm like, damn, he just, you know, I whack, he get the, you say some shit, he going to overgo. I don't know what the mama duck did or said, but they was going crazy. Well, that's somebody mama at the end of the day. So I don't even, I just let that shit. I wouldn't even be on live stream with her. talking to her or any of that none of that shit so it's weird cause even when we asked Yella about it he basically said that like mama Doug basically was talking too crazy to whack and she shouldn't be talking to people like that if she don't wanna get caught up I mean but still as me I'm not having a conversation at all she wanna say that's a woman you can't do nothing with me you can't do nothing so you just gotta say sometimes how can you feel like more moms having been outspoken?

1:51:25Because you got a lot of people. Are they scared or it's like not even... No, they ain't scared. They just, I feel like they doing the smarter thing to have their peace. Duck Mama probably ain't got no peace for real. People probably trolling her and talking crazy to her and disrespecting her son on a daily basis. It probably slowed down now, but you got to think how much that shit was going on when he first died and shit like that. Yeah. She probably really like... The internet shit is a gift and a curse. It's cool to have some followers and shit like that, but then it's always going to be people that's going to say the worst shit to you.

1:52:00Because people say crazy shit to me about my people that's gone and shit like that. It's just like, I ain't going to never see this. Block them. Do you even think realistically if there were more parents stepping up and trying to come together on both sides, could that stop or slow anything down? Or it's too far gone? No, it's been too far gone. But like once people at a, if you raise your kids a certain type of way to where they feel like they got a freedom to do the shit that they want to do, or like they at a certain age and they already outside and it's way too far gone, how can your parents stop you from, because what they going to say, oh, I'm going to put you out if you don't stop gangbanging and you just go over to your homie crib or to your little bitch crib or some shit like that.

1:52:41There's people that's going to take you in. Like, it's like really no way to stop that. Like, your parents, you just got to have a certain love for them to not do certain type of shit to put you in a certain predicament. Yeah, no, I feel that. Yeah. You been seeing O.T.L. Vonnie dad make his claims and shit? Yeah, I ain't really been. I done seen some little shit, but like, what are you talking about? What's up with him? he said a lot of shit but the craziest thing that he said was he said that Vonnie paid I don't want to quote him wrong but he said it's some crazy shit he basically was trying to say that Vonnie backdoor King Von and was linking up with Lil Pop and Young Boy and Quando to do it I'm like how does that even make sense how does that make any sense that's what I don't but he's on most he said it on academics He said it on Trenches News.

1:53:37The only way that would be true is if everybody would be like, yeah, Vonnie told us to go over there. Or we was finna go here and Vonnie was like, nah. This is not from, this is a separate altercation. Because, you know, they have multiple. He's saying they pulled up on them in Georgia somewhere and it was an altercation that happened. But it was supposed to be some backdoor. I'm like, what type of. Nah, bro. Do you know Vonnie? Like, did you know him personally? I don't know him at all. I've never seen this man. Nothing. Because they say he's not like a street nigga. He was just like, oh. I don't know who the fuck he is.

1:54:05I've never seen him. And what about like Brian Oz or Flocka, any of them niggas? Never seen these niggas, bro. That's crazy. Never seen them.

1:54:18Diddy, Smirk, Jim. And that's it? And who else on that case? The rest of them, I don't know the rest of them niggas. I don't know the nigga with the dreads. I seen Boogie around. You knew Booney Mo? Yeah, Booney Mo ain't on the case, though. Nah, but he, technically he co-conspirator number five. He just. Huh? You know, he in the feds for something else. He in the feds for something else, but he would be co-conspirator number five for sure. Damn. Yeah, I know. And Zoo would be six. Yeah, okay. I think that. So that's true. Yeah, that's true. 100 % true. And Booney Moe's allegedly number five, but he's locked up for some drug shit right now.

1:54:56So what they saying that Booney Moe did though? Shit. He was damn near helping drop the load. He was the one coordinating the shit. I mean, according to them. But co-conspirator number five was, even Dirk told him, like, after I saw a little jam, Jam called this nigga Dirk and was like, man, why would you send us on that hit knowing it wasn't together? Like, he basically like on the phone saying some shit, some goofy shit like, why would you have us go kill? Like, basically trying to like dry snitch, but then Dirk said on the phone, like, just go out loud, boon him up. Like, trying to get that nigga off the phone, like, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

1:55:31And then the niggas seen him at the concert, and one of the niggas, I think it was Flocka, he was supposed to collect some money, and Dirk said, go holler at Booney Moe. So it seemed like Booney Moe was a nigga that was either supposed to be handing out the paper to these niggas or whatever the case means, but that's what they saying that Booney Moe involvement was, that he was kind of like telling niggas, hey. I don't feel like none of that shit true neither, because if that's the case, then shit, nigga, because what? They said Booney Moe recruited Jam. But how? They all homies. How you going to be a recruiter if they all homies?

1:56:01They already be around each other. I don't know. They said Booney Moe brought in Jam, and then Jam brought in the other nigga. Yeah, no. No, no, no. That makes sense. I don't know if that makes sense at all. Not even a little bit. But Booney Moe was a nigga you know? Yeah, no, I know Booney Moe. Like, where are you from? He from? Booney Moe from 79, but... So that makes sense, because Jam from 79. But he from a whole nother end of 79. Yeah, he like past Ashland and shit. Forgot what block he exactly from. But yeah, he ain't got nothing to do with none of that shit either. He ain't got nothing to do with that shit either.

1:56:35That was him and Rio got booked together type shit back in the day. Booney Moe been around for a long time. A long time. He a good nigga too though. But I don't think he got nothing to do with that shit at all. Because if it was serious, that shit that he don't like, they would have extradited him over. They don't make you sit your time. He would have been in trial with them. so cause he already in custody he's already in federal custody they would've just sent him right over to California and he would've been fighting with them yeah can't be that serious but his name was dropped a lot in that court and through text his name was dropped like our Dudy Lone name was being mentioned Booty Mo name was being mentioned we ain't heard nothing from like Twin, Varney outside the damn courthouse so it can't that like a lot that shit can't it's just hearsay it is for sure it's hearsay but it's like it's hearsay Just make it make sense, though.

1:57:26Dude, a little crazy. I would've got the phone, bro. I would've been. They go, what? They just said, what? Pack all this shit up. Get the shirts. Get the shirts. At that point, leave the shirts in a box outside and just let niggas grab it at their own wheel. Fuck it. Get the shirts. Yeah. He said, get the shirt. Oh, shit. Man, shout out to the little man. Hell yeah, man. I respect that. Man, so you dropped Still Swerving Volume 2? I ain't even dropped that shit yet. You just pre-made it? Like that's the cover art? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was finna drop it, what, like a couple days ago, but I didn't ever get it mixed.

1:58:04I'm doing too much. So I'm just pushing back like three, four weeks. How motivated are you to do music at this point? Like are you kind of slowing down or like? A lot of people gave up on rap. It's like now I'm only doing, I'm not doing it for no, oh, I'm trying to blow up and make it. I got a core fan base. Yeah. And I'm just going to drop music for them. So, like, my music be how I'm living and what I'm on at that time. So that's just what my music is. This shit I got, I'm, you know, I just got out. I'm doing what I got to do. This shit hard. This shit, yeah. So I'm just dropping on some for my people.

1:58:43Like, other people going to hear it and I'm going to get new fans and shit like that. But I ain't going to know, oh, yeah, I'm trying to get a hit record. That shit just coming. You still acting and shit? You gonna be in Crosses 4? It's 3 I think It's the third one It's already out alright They did the premiere and shit like that Shout out Meezy I'm really getting into all that type of shit though bro You know just acting TV all that shit I'm with fashion weeks and shit I'm tall nigga I'm gonna get into all that shit bro How serious you gonna take acting though I seen you did like 2 movies but are you going like you ain't did you do uh acting classes or you just was no bro people just it's like it's kind of easy because you know what the like well what we do like yeah when we're shooting videos and shit like that you can learn how to act a little bit so like on the professional videos not the shit when we outside just yeah you know but it's like it make it easy like it make it easy so i just be getting the scripts and shit i'll be looking over that shit and then i just be going off the, you know, word for word with that shit.

1:59:47It'd be kind of easy. So I fuck with it though. I fuck with it. I fuck with it because you got to think like. Us growing up and shit like that, all the rappers had movies and shit like that, from No Limit, Cash Money and shit, Baller Blocking, all types of shit. I got the hook of all types of movies. The niggas we was listening to was doing shit. Yeah, no, facts. Yeah, so it's like, shit, we need to do the same thing. Niggas ain't going to want to do music or hit the music forever, but niggas going to want to fuck with you in some type of way. They going to still want to see you doing something.

2:00:23people don't give you a huge following for no reason. They want to see you doing something. Yeah. So I'm, you know, I'm just getting into different lanes of shit in life now. I got the capability to do it and shit. I got the sources and shit. So I'm just jumping into some different shit. But acting definitely going to be one of the main ones though. For sure. For sure. Niggas are already trying to book me for two movies right now. so we need you on BMF actually that's done man this nigga new power man 50 come pick this nigga up what's up bro I used to be DMing that nigga in there they put me on the show in the comments put me on the show 50 like he randomly like commenting on my page about like Honeycomb Brazy and I think that was on your page yeah like 50 Cent just randomly tapped in with Honey he just randomly will comment on Instagram and you always think like oh like he's with me and then it's just you realize is just comment on a random account.

2:01:22Because I felt that way with No Jumbo once or twice. I got it on my page twice before. He tapped in a little bit, right? He tapped in. He shit come across his eye and he say something. But when he comments on your shit, you want to be like, bro, I love you, dude. I'm your biggest fan, bro. And you never want to fangirl. People don't be understanding how we looked up to niggas growing up and stuff like that. So it be like, damn. You just want to be like, bro, that first album, nigga, that shit was crazy. You don't want to do too much, though, nigga nigga like damn nigga i understand like you a legend bro i just want to let you know yeah you had us on bullshit outside sliding to your music like like niggas respected that's it but yeah i'm definitely 50 got he got the wave right now bro 50 got all the shows that you really watch every season he got another show and he got the I think he building like G-Unit Films he been beefing with Hurricane Chris they been going back and forth about the little studio shit I think Hurricane Chris feel like he ain't doing enough for the city it's in Shreveport right here something like that that shit Tyler Perry got in Atlanta that shit is crazy that's crazy that now you could like start a whole business in somebody's city and they'll be mad at you for not doing enough for the city.

2:02:40You know what I'm saying? It's like, who the fuck else is starting business? It's about to be 200, 300 jobs in this. What you talking about? I'm saying. It's going to be a whole neighborhood full of shit that I'm going to need people to do. Yeah, he's bringing value to Street Report. Yeah, for sure. For sure. Chris, you tripping, but I'll forward you, though. And he's going to hire black people. I guarantee you that. It's 50. You know? He's going to sprinkle the others, but he's going to hire black people. So Hurricane Chris can't say shit about nothing. So this your first interview you did since you've been out?

2:03:07You finna start making rounds or? Yeah, I guess, man. I guess. I guess. Probably not. Would you sit down with Cizna? What Cizna? I wanted to do an interview with you. Hell no, bro. I went to jail for that. No. No. Now you know how to treat. You ain't got to do no street shit around. No, bro. I'm not sitting down with that man. What? He got to get in the ring with one of us in the gloves. Him and Mimo getting kind of cool. They was on the live. They seem like they got a little bond. I ain't got nothing to do with no other niggas got going on. I went to jail for that man, for that live shit we did.

2:03:40No, bro. And he done did too much and said too much. He got to get in the gloves with somebody from Chicago. I ain't going to say me because I'm huge. I'm going to destroy him. I try to get you and Yela in there, man. Yeah, you know I'm with whatever. Y 'all been training though. That's cool. He in the gym every day. I see it. You know I go to the gym. I see it. I pay attention. Ain't nobody finna sneak up on me and be like, oh yeah, I'm ready. yeah but I'm always down for that you know that for the greater the greater good of Chicago you know on some grown men shit that'd be a good one right there but 6ix9ine he gotta gotta somebody from Chicago who makes sense for 6ix9ine to fight Recy finna get out if 6ix9ine won a couple boxing matches everybody would forget about the snitch thing no they won't but not fully but they gonna respect it though I think people forget They're going to respect the way he talk.

2:04:35But like, think about Jake Paul. Jake Paul was like, everybody hated him. Everybody was like, this is the most annoying YouTuber ever. And then he won a bunch of fights and nobody talks about that anymore. I still hate Jake Paul. For what? I still hate Jake Paul because Mike Tyson would have knocked him the fuck out, bro. Right. That shit was fake. You seen how - But you hate him for some new shit, not the shit that everybody hated him for before. Because I didn't care to look and see who he was. But that shit made me like, okay, I hate him just like everybody else. Because y 'all paid my man's mic to lose that fight.

2:05:05Y 'all same time when he was training. He get in the ring with him. Now he just, like, he literally was biting his gloves to stop him from swinging on him. If I knew that was true, I would have so much respect for Jake Paul. Like, look what a genius businessman you are. He got, Mike got this mic tight, should we be talking about? I bet he wishes he paid Anthony Joshua to make it a nice chill fight. Instead of getting his jaw broken. yeah cause that that one right there I don't even think he boxing anymore after that he announced he hasn't yet and there's a lot of boxing experts say that his jaw injury is a career ender he got his own league now right the most valuable shit yeah but I wonder how much he matters to that organization without being able to actually fight I don't know maybe he will fight again we don't really know he probably shouldn't hit somebody that hits like that though cause that shit he got in there with a real one.

2:05:59Yeah. That's like all that playing with these bullshit fighters. Nah. Yeah. You got a network. So you and Yellow fight, y 'all go three rounds. What is it looking like? Y 'all going all three? I don't think it's going all three. What? I don't think it's going all three. For sure, for sure. I ain't going. Ain't no first round knockout. That's what I'm going for. What? I'm not going to go in there and just dance around with him. And it's his animosity. So it's like I've been waiting. and feel like I'm not going in there to go and spar and play. Yeah. I'm going in there slugging. Off the rip. And we two big niggas out here hard.

2:06:37Yeah, that'll be the one to see, though, right there. Y 'all two. Yeah, you know, I've been asking for that a long time. I'm trying to line it up secretly behind the scenes. I'm ready whenever I told you. He know, too. It's like he training for your ass, man. He in the gym every day. I like that. I've been working out for a long, long time. Would you fight Blueface? I mean, yeah, for the paper, right? I don't got nothing against it. I like that nigga. I ain't got nothing against him. But yeah, if you want to get in the ring, they want to pay me to get in the ring. They're both kind of like similar build type guys, right?

2:07:06That'd be a decent. Hell yeah, I'd do that. I'm not turning down with nobody. Yeah. Like, I'm already like the size that I am. Like, I'm not turning like, I'm going to fuck up a nigga 300 pounds. I'm not turning it down. Like, super heavy or whatever, I'm not turning it down. I just don't want to fight nobody that's smaller than me. You know what I'm saying? That's crazy. I want to fight people smaller than me, for sure. You see, I wouldn't even consider me in 6 '9". I would never. He's, you know. Yeah, I don't think you'd be able to make the same. Well, he's kind of fat. Maybe he could make the same weight.

2:07:33That's not, yeah, that's not even, I wouldn't even do that. But, like, any nigga my height, my size or bigger, I'm with it. I'm with it. Anybody. Anybody. Anybody. Anybody. niggas is paying niggas to get in the ring. Come on. You feel like you can embarrass me. You feel like you got it. Come on. Let's do it. I'm up for all contenders. I don't give a fuck what city, what state you from. Let's do it. Let's note it, man. Let's go. 6ix9ine Breezy, anybody you want to shout out? Any last words? Things they should check out? You know, still serving to on the way, you know, for my court people, you know.

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