607 Unc on King Yella Beef, Calls Out Rooga, Crip Mac's Mental Health & More

15:28What? Say something. Because you can't break shit to me because you know what you do. All you do is play games. Sorry. Glitched. You ain't fucking glitched. You play fucking games.

15:37Rooga:this is the thing what you blaming it on the titles is so insane because we could have not clipped that at all we could have gave it the most friendliest titles ever and everything that happened from there would have happened exactly the way that it happened because guess what now as many people as who saw that on our platform more people saw it on one of the millions of aggregator pages that basically just take that shit clip it and add their own narrative no that I was in the middle of a two hour thing. Nobody watches no jumper that long. You had to clip it up. Yes, I do. Come on, gang. We probably had six, seven thousand people watching.

16:15I know, but they move in and out, in and out, in and out. By that time, them people probably forgot. But you made sure they remember. They people going in and out alive all day. You ain't making me think that the same six thousand people, the same six thousand people. They're going to say, oh, I need to hear what I said. You made them hear what the fuck I said.

16:29Rooga:I'm probably never going to agree on this, but at the same time, you are clearly wrong. How the fuck am I wrong when you clearly fucking did it? You got your staff clearly still doing the same shit now. You just set me up with Crip Mac just now. You just set me up with Crip Mac right now. All you do is set me up. I was making you deal with the weight of your own words. But you know I'm not a member no more. You know what I am. You know I'm a prophet of God. Come on here and say that you're different gangs every week. Gang, you know I'm a prophet. And all the prophets are gang members. That's what I'm telling you.

16:54Jesus was not a gang. Yes, he was. All he rolled with was people that killed. They didn't think of gangs. It was the same gang. Listen, 12 disciples of GDB device. We just spread it out. And they Crip Bloods too. on 5-5 Crip, on Selenium. Yeah, I'm just trying to keep it real. You play too much with everybody and you play too much with God. You don't respect God. You don't respect people. Only thing I've seen you respect, I'm going to keep it real. The only thing I've seen you respect is what you should respect. The only thing I've ever seen you respect is your baby. Your daughter. The only thing I've ever seen you respect.

17:19My heart. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's only thing I've seen you respect. I don't believe in God, so I don't need to respect God. There is no God. I don't give a fuck about that, but there is a creator. You brought a preacher here just to say, fuck God? Everybody know God is a fucking son. and everybody keep looking at it, but that's only this part of this God that you can see is a different God that nobody sees, and that's the God that I speak for, nigga. That's what I'm trying to tell you. I'm trying to tell you to stop playing with people all the time, and when it comes to Crick Mac, you got to understand what you're doing to him.

17:46He's a schizophrenic, bipolar man, and you need to stop playing with him, and you almost got me killed. We have a good time together. What?

17:53Rooga:You almost getting killed was part of us having a good time together. No, that's part of your game. That pisses you off that you were kind of like a prop. It had never happened. God would never let it happen. He's going to keep protecting me from you, so I'm gonna keep coming. But you know God lets bad things happen all the time. No, no. There's two options with God. Either he doesn't give a fuck or he can't do anything. That's only when you take your free will. When you take your free will, freely shit happen. I don't take my free will. I align with my purpose. You don't have free will. Yes, I don't accept it.

18:16Everybody take free will. You took your free will and look at you. You don't have free will. Everybody got free will. You didn't take it.

18:21Rooga:You didn't choose where you were born. You didn't choose to be this fucking ugly. That's cap. You didn't choose all the bullshit that happened to you in your life. I chose it. The idea that you have free will is a delusion. I chose it and then I chose to forget, right? To put myself through this so I can understand who I am, right? I don't think you understand. Don't want to go there with me. But I'm going to tell you this. You chose to forget and you still forget. Adam, all you got to do is try to remember. Once you remember, you go back to your creator. Remember what? Remember who you are. Remember that you're God.

18:47I'm a white man from New Hampshire. No, no, no. You're a God. But you don't know that, right? I don't want to be. No, yeah, you don't want to be God because I don't want to be that. You want to be what you considered known of in all the trenches worldwide? A nigga that do what you do. What they said did you do? Put strings on niggas' backs. Don't classify me as that. Everybody say you put strings on niggas' backs. You're a fucking culture vulture. Everybody say that. But I don't think you're a culture vulture. I think that you really just a vulture. I swear to your mama, y 'all been vultures forever.

19:19How can we accept you to be more than what y 'all have always been?

19:22Rooga:How hard for you to accept that I'm not a culture vulture I'm just better at making content About the culture than you And nearly everybody else out there Now listen you're not better than me and you taught me Let me tell you this you are a vulture But you taught me how to do content and I'm better than you And you know that's why I'm sitting here right now That's why this is our show right now because I learn from you And do better than you with your own shit But I know How are you doing better than me? Oh because I do better than you with your own shit I was looking at your analytics the other day They look good not they?

19:50Rooga:No not lately I've been out of town lately. You had a bunch of months where you're getting like 20, 30 million views, and then all of a sudden now you're getting like less than 10. Because I've been going out of town. I've been moving around. Nice excuse. But I just dropped the video right now. Big Home CC, 200K in a day. Nobody watch a Big Home CC. 200K in a day. 200K in a day. You ain't did that in a long time. When was the last time you did that? That's on Brickbaby views. When was the last time you did that? I did 200K in a day. You ain't did that in a long time. Cripman got like 800K. That was good.

20:14He's got a gym. He retarded. People always do numbers. I mean Big Homie CC's not retarded yeah but he's a serial liar yeah but yeah I'm back now I've been moving out of town I've been with Charlton White doing kind of like shows almost getting killed out of town so I couldn't really concentrate on the content

20:26Rooga:the problem is though is that you were getting all those views when you had like this whole little squad of different hosts and it feels like you're hemorrhaging hosts very quickly so three days ago you put out a Big Homie CC podcast Big Homie CC Untamed Epstein Island Trump war crimes I guess I could see how that kind of title would do good on your platform because it's like 100 % conspiracy oriented. But if we want to look at like actual views, like you did one a day ago, 607 Unlocks Reality, Book of the Dead Exposed, 16K. That's not so good. 16K is good. I just dropped it. It ain't been out in hours yet.

21:04Rooga:I think you forgot to buy the views on that one. I didn't buy views. I don't buy views. I'm a uniform to buy views. All much is organic. All much is organic and everybody know game. If I was going to buy views, it would have been in March of 2023 when all the hosts left the platform. So I actually know exactly what you are going through currently. Listen, I'm not going through shit because they left. I don't think you understand. Nobody left. Ran for the hills. Where did he go? Got a report, got some one of your employees, and then he did. No, no, listen to something. I told them all to leave.

21:30No one told me that they - You told them to leave. Everybody, everybody. That's real convenient. Well, to me, it's real convenient. I'm going to tell you this. When everybody decides to do what they want to do, go ahead and do what you do. I do what I do. It's okay. You have a problem with retaining talent. No, I don't have a problem with retaining talent.

21:42Rooga:I have also had problems with this, but I got a lot better. I haven't lost many hosts. I don't. Why do you think I have a problem with it? I don't think you understand. All my talent. Because who is your talent currently? Who lives in Vegas that does podcasts with you on a consistent basis? Big homie CC now. He lives in Vegas now? Right now. Yep. And we just did something. We just went up and about to go up again. Pastor Eli. I've been doing content with him for a long time. Never stopped. On the spot. Been doing content with him for a long time. Never stopped. And that's actually my co-host right now.

22:05But you act like you don't know because he burnt one of your shirts. He the one who helped me burn the No Jumper shirt when I burnt it. I don't watch your content, so I don't really know what you're doing. Yeah, I know you don't watch it, but everybody else do. I got three channels. Have you seen all three of them? You're only talking about one. I mean, you got it. I'm talking about one. I got three of them doing them. I got two of them. I got three of them bitches. I got a channel with a million subscribers that I don't even use. Yeah, well, I don't got that yet. But I'm getting her. Why are you worried about me when I'm getting her?

22:26Rooga:Listen. I just like to point out the fact that you clearly are trying to clone No Jumper out there. Yeah. And I guess it's not going so well. Everybody know I'm calling no jumper, but who gives a f***? It's working. I'm just saying it ain't working. But it's working. How does it work? How is it not working? I'm getting good views. I'm getting good money. And I'm sitting right here with a show with you. So evidently it's working. You are the one saying that you have a show with me. I do got a show with you. It's like one-off interview. We do got a show. We did it the second time. The second time we're doing this, I show.

22:49If we do it, repeat this, I show. The comments say we should have a show. So we got a show.

22:54Rooga:I mean, a show would infer that we're doing this on a consistent regular basis. We are doing it consistently. I'll be back again next week. Yeah, I'm not saying my schedule is already full for next week. We got to that. Huh? We got to that. Maybe. Okay, dude. We have enough topics. We got enough topics. So come up with topics. I'm trying to kind of gravitate towards the Vlad model where it's like, I'm not going to do a weekly piece of content, but I'm going to do a piece of content whenever it feels like we have enough to talk about that it's worth it. Man, listen, that's because you worry about talking about shit that's already out there.

23:21You got to bring shit to the internet. Yeah, I don't want to talk about dolphins. That's what go up because you bring a shit to the internet. That will go up because you bring a shit to the internet. You can't talk about shit that's already been said.

23:30Rooga:When I look at your views, I feel like the stuff that's just you ranting about whatever is the stuff that's really not working at this point. That's what worked the most. I don't know. Yeah, that worked the most. X-Files. Every time I talk about this reality, the quantum physics, that's what works. No, see, that's what doesn't work. What works is like, okay, you do an episode with Big Home CC and Big Home CC talking about Epstein. Okay, the Epstein files were released a couple weeks ago. That's a real thing. Did you go through the comments saying, oh no, 6 or 7 Unk, talk about reality. That's what they want to hear.

23:57They don't want to hear the bullshit that you put out. I think they're getting jaded today. The views tell a different story. The views show, they show all arrows pointed up. I mean, everybody that watched my shit continue to watch it. I mean, they don't stop. I mean, they don't click off. I mean, they watch it to the end.

24:09Rooga:I do think like talking about conspiracies is kind of like the key to getting a lot of views in this day and age. And maybe that's like a handicap for me is because I'm firmly rooted in reality and I don't like to talk about total bullshit. No, because your daddy won't let you do it. You know, you can't talk about family secrets. My dad does. Yeah, but I can. Yeah, yeah. Your daddy won't let you talk about it either. So I'm talking about that. I guarantee you won't have a podcast. Well, they'll take baby boy podcast. That's how bad about Hillary Clinton on here. He was cool with her. Yeah, yeah.

24:32They're going to take baby boy podcast. You talk about some other shit. Yeah. I bet they would set you up. You stop quick. You can't talk about what I talk about. Yeah. Baby boy. My parents give a fuck about what I do on here. Talk about the secrets. I did bring my dad on here. Yeah, talk about.

24:45Rooga:And it's funny how like so many people want to make videos about my dad is some kind of Freemason. And then I actually brought my dad on the podcast. Everybody got to see exactly what he was like. and then nobody made videos about him being an alleged freebason because it's so unbelievably obvious from talking to him for five seconds that he is not you didn't manage energy or frequency one time with your father not one time i heard say hey dad what about the energy that frequency you ain't say that yeah because what the because he know about it and you know about it but you act like you don't hey dad energy and frequencies he's gonna say what he's gonna say yeah that's what we live by same thing you live by the same thing everybody else you playing everybody by and you understand it and your daddy understand it because he's a Freemason like me.

25:23My dad never talked to me about fruity shit like that. That ain't fruity. You know what it is. You're going to keep making everybody think it's some kind of crazy shit, but you know goddamn real is reality. So what are you going to do to bring King Yellow back? What you mean? Listen, I'm going to say this. King Yellow is still back. Let me tell you this. Nope. He's done. He said he would never do that again. Why you don't understand this? Listen, let me tell you this. Let me tell you what you don't understand, right? King Yellow right now, he's doing his thing. I'm doing my thing. I was somewhere.

25:45He was somewhere. whenever we come together we come together whenever we don't we don't ain't none of your

25:49Rooga:business what we do i heard that you were doing some snake shit that you were like you were like not calling yellow and you were going and like hanging out around blue face no no no no no no that ain't what happened you were trying to hog you a cloud hog i'm i'm gonna just go ahead clip base you want to clip bait that's not what happened whack 100 told me no whack 100 told me no whack 100 told me look when you come around yo last time you came around you put a whole lot of people around. Just come by yourself. That was Wack told me. And gotta think about it. Wack them giving me six figures for a reality show.

26:18So what the fuck am I supposed to do? So I'm like yo I'm gonna make it happen. So give me time to make it happen. Nobody wanna give me time to make it happen but that was Wack 100. He run a professional business game. He not the same person that everybody see. So he didn't want all that shit around his business.

26:30Rooga:No I think you'd be perfectly happy to have some GDs in the dub. No no no. You don't understand. You don't know how the fuck they roll. I ain't finna talk. You trick me to talk about it. You dumb. Man I'm not talking about that shit. What? You trying to trick me to talk about it. I'm not finna talk about it. I'm not going to talk about it. Hey, I thought King Yella, you bringing him to be part of your platform. I think King Yella is a rising star right now. I think he's beating the GD curse. Look, the GD curse era is over. Ruga won his fight. King Yella is a rising star. Nigga, you cursed the GDs.

26:57Rooga:The BDs are all dead and in jail. Not all, but some. All of them is. But you cursed the GDs. You the one that made - I'm a GD lover. No, you made Chicago look so bad on this show. You want to talk about what I do? You know what the fuck you did, but I'm going to say this. I think I'm pretty cool with all the GDs, not so much the BDs. The BDs kind of. I'm going to say that. They might not like me as much. But I'm going to say that you act like me and King yell into it, but we're not. I'm with GDs right now. Right now, I'm with GDs. That fuck with Yeller right now. Yeller on the phone with him. Let me tell you this.

27:23Because men choose not to talk for a moment don't mean they intuit. Right? I don't argue. I don't have disagreements. Can't nobody tell you nothing I ever said wrong because I say nothing wrong. But I do everything wrong, nigga. I change. And when I change, people either change with me or we don't talk no more. But I change all the time, gang. Listen, I'm going to tell you this. Nobody ever changed on me. I do all the changing. Isn't that bad? No, it ain't bad. Changing up is considered a bad thing. No, I change for good reasons. Listen, I change to get away from bullshit. I change to get away from nonsense.

27:51I change when something is bad. But a lot of people don't want to change what thing is bad. They want to run in the same cycle. I don't run in the same cycle. I just change. So I change a lot. So a lot of people say that I've changed, but they haven't lied. You need to change your clothes. Come on, gang. Stop playing with me. Stank-ass motherfucker. You are weird as fuck. You ask me shit and then you do this goofy ass shit. Yeah, but I ask you shit and then you start talking about dolphins and dogs. I told you some good shit about dolphins, but you want to talk about King Yellow like I got problems with him.

28:15I don't got problems with Yellow.

28:16Rooga:I exist in the mortal realm in which you falling out with one of your podcast co-hosts is a topic and dolphins being smarter than human beings is not. Bro, I have not fell off with nobody, right? And dolphins is the main topic that everybody's talking about now except on No Jumper. All y 'all talking about is bullshit. You want to hear about me and Yellow falling off. And so as you do that, we're going to do a podcast together. You're going to look stupid. you're the dumb as fuck right i'm not gonna disrespect yellow yellow if yellow changes his mind and decides he wants a podcast video again then we'll accept that let me tell you something yellow ain't told you shit and if he told you something you probably can hear something saying whatever the fuck you want him to say for your fucking views no he did he made it perfectly clear he doesn't plan on podcasting with you anymore because you're a little funny with the money how am i funny with the money when i paid him bob said bob said you don't like to pay people let me tell you something about bob let me tell you something about bob let me say something about I love Bob and I love yellow what you're trying to do.

29:05You're not going to do it with me. I don't think you get it, man. You're not going to see me down the road where you're going to say, Oh, he disrespect these people. I love these people. But sometimes we together for the moment. And sometimes the next moment we not, but that don't mean it's a problem. So I don't have no problem with nobody. I mean, I'm with my day ones. I don't have day ones. I'm just, I'm saying this, everybody have made good money off me and that's good. Right. I helped everybody and everybody have helped me. They don't mean we got to stay together forever. So it don't mean I got to talk about them bad.

29:29I heard Bob Report and King Yellow are teaming up to do a class action lawsuit against you for wage theft. Oh my God. And so is the motherfuckers over there. So is the same motherfuckers over there. Not them. The other motherfuckers you put off. Everybody that leave you. I'm talking about T-Rio. You know what I'm talking about. I'm talking about T-Rio. The same motherfuckers over there that, you know. Why has you never gone back on Figg? Or did you? I never went back on Figg. Why did you go there? I thought you would. No. Why would I go there?

29:53Rooga:Because you were hating on me for a while. So I figured you would go there. They don't never go with the niggas you don't fuck with. I'm not goofy. Well, that's what I would do to you. No, I wouldn't do that. I know what you would do, but I ain't what I'd do. No, I never fucked with him because I was already locked in with you first, so I kind of like stay where I'm at. Talk to me for like six months. But then what I mean, I'm going to fuck with somebody you don't fuck with, just LA. That means you can still be connected with him and get me fucked up, nigga. I'm not stupid. I guess you didn't come to LA for like the whole time that you were beefing with me.

30:13I was in LA, come on, gang. I was in LA the whole time and I still was in LA when that shit was going on with you, but I'm not going to go with nobody else. I didn't go do content with cop and rater.

30:22Rooga:You didn't want to pull up on the LA Hoovers because you thought that they were going to press you. Press me for what? T-Rail's the biggest Hoover out here. Listen, man. And Smack. I don't think you understand. They both, they both in charge. They are not, they're not banging. You trying to make up like a banger. You want to play these games. You the same one that said he the one snitched on the Hoovers when they went to jail for all their rapes thing. Smack didn't do that. No, he did not. He did. But you play these kind of games. We could literally play a clip of him telling the mayor that she needs to do something about underage prostitution.

30:47Rooga:A week later, there's a federal RICO taking out a huge percentage of the Hoovers for what? Being involved in underage prostitution. Come on, gang. He was talking about something totally different, and they word it the way they want to word it, and you know this, but you're going to put it on your clip bait and try to make it like you did. You're giving him such a benefit. We would never do this for anyone else. Imagine I did that. What? Imagine you did what? There's no one like you, and there never will be. From the producer of Bohemian Rhapsody. There are many legends, but there is only one. Michael, rated PG-13, in theaters April 24.

31:22Rooga:I had an interview with the mayor, and I said, oh, I think you need to do something about this underage prostitution thing. And then they took out all those dudes the next day. What do you think people would say? They'd say, oh, my God, Adam got the Hoover's and I. Didn't he name a name? Didn't he say who was doing it? Listen, everybody knows. Yeah, right. Everybody know that underage prostitution is wrong. So speak it on it without putting a name on it. If you're part of the gang, you can't tell. How do you know that he know the gang doing it? There's another way in which you could stop underage prostitution, which is tell the people who are doing it, hey, cut it out, buddy.

31:56Rooga:You don't got to go straight to the mayor. Listen, I'll do what you do, interview the little girls that's getting f***ed. Let's talk about you interviewing the same little girls up on the jumper that's getting f***ed by these grown men. Listen, I interviewed her mom. She brought her daughter along. we had an important conversation that was supposed to be had. No, no. The girl's on the show halfway naked talking about all the dicks she took as a minor and you... I don't think she said anything about having sex. Come on. She's a hooker. They don't even like having sex. Hookers? What hooker you know that don't f***?

32:22Come on, gang. But it's like, she's not like on here bragging about f***ing. These girls hate f***ing. The moment they got locked up, you brought the girl up here that allegedly got them locked up. Yeah. Yeah, why? She didn't tell them. Yeah, you know that. You brought her and her mama probably$500, nigga. I mean, she says she's like adamantly anti-snitching.

32:40Rooga:Come on, gang. This a kid. I just want to make this perfectly clear. Tania and her daughter Nova did not tell on the Hoovers, Smack did. Smack didn't. And them kids didn't. Smack did it on camera. This little girl said to her, she suck dick old camera. And her mama suck dick. They old family suck dick. She did not talk about that. Come on, gang. This a little girl. These are little kids. And I don't understand. I'm going to say this. How is it not my job to make content about newsworthy events such as this girl kind of becoming famous for being an underage prostitute? You know what? And her mom is like kind of a repeat guest on No Jumper.

33:14Rooga:Why is it outside the realm of possibility for us to have a conversation about this terrible thing? I was trying to guide her in the direction of no longer selling her body. She's a minor. And she was only talking about selling pussy with her mama. I'm going to say this. It's not all the way your fault. You know who the fault I thought it was the most? her fucking mama. I couldn't even listen. I'm going to say this. You learn everything from the people you're around. It's her mama's fault. Everybody congratulating that. That's fucking good. That shit's not fucking good. That shit is fucking sickening.

33:40But you know good and goddamn well that you helped it out. How did I help it? I exposed it, if anything. Yeah, you exposed it to more people to get more clients to make more money off her pussy. No. You know the fuck you did. I brought her on here and gave her a long, hard, stern talking to. That's cap. You brought her on here just to make sure no jumper go up and you can make sure that you blame somebody else for snitching when you sat here and created the whole case. Soft White Underbelly already had her on multiple times before. Yeah, I mean, you got to do it for her. You got to do it because somebody else do it.

34:06Rooga:Well, I'm saying like, I felt like I was uniquely capable of having that conversation because Mark from Soft White Underbelly not necessarily as fluent in gang culture and street shit as I am. What you mean? You're not fluent in shit. You fluent in putting batteries in niggas' back. That was you fluent in putting batteries in niggas' back like you did her and her mama for probably nothing. How did I put a battery in her back? Because she could have died when she left for a gang. Everybody was saying she snitched on all the hoovers What did she do during an interview that would be qualifying her for death?

34:31Rooga:You put her face out there, nigga. Her face was already out there. I just said she was on Soft One Underbelly multiple times. She was on social media. How many millions do you got? And a lot of people watch No Jumper. You put a face out there at the wrong time. You shouldn't have done that. I think Soft One Underbelly probably has more followers than us. No, but you was wrong, though. You know you was wrong. Let's keep it real, gang. Wrong for what? Listen, I don't think you understand about the nervous system and about when kids or child go through things like that. She is not even capable of having conversations with you.

34:56She's not even understanding what is really going on. She is sick and she need help. So she don't need to talk. This was the help. Oh, this is how's the help when the whole world is coming? This is therapy. That's not therapy when the whole world is coming. This is like Dr. Phil. It's not like. Stop, man. It is. How's Dr. Phil going to get a felt on? That's all it's going to do. All it's going to do is get a some more.

35:15Rooga:That's what this show going to do. I feel like if Dr. Phil interviewed a mother and her underage prostitute daughter, then nobody would say that Dr. Phil was trying to like get her more clients. I don't think you understand. And that's a way bigger platform than mine. Let me say this. You play with topics at the wrong time that you shouldn't have played with. At that time, you interviewed a convicted serial ass. Oh, my God. Why are you talking about that? You must want them. I did, too. I got them from your platform. I did it, and then you copied me. I copy you all the time. The difference is I did it remotely.

35:43Rooga:You flew him out and then gave him baby oil and fucked him in his crevice. Yeah, you mad because I copy you and get real views off you, and everybody else don't know how to copy you. I'm sure I got more views. Yeah, well, I copy you and do very good for myself. Right? Listen, I copied you and came up. So don't act like it's a bad thing to copy you. But the views are down. They're not down because I ain't get content. Watch this. Watch this. If you go out of town and you can't get no content, then why are you going out of town? Because I had to do the shit with Charleston White. What were you doing with Charleston White?

36:09I was kind of like opening up for him. I was opening an act. Doing comedy shows? I don't do comedy. I was opening up for him. I just want to get out and trust the people. Okay. That was it. So I was trusting the people with him. But the only problem is every show he went to, we almost got killed. That was my problem. What? There was attacks on his life everywhere? They attacked him everywhere. I was like, God damn. It happened so much that I still think it's got to be staged. But I'm like, it can't be staged because he's really fighting. He's fighting old women, grown men. He fought somebody in a wheelchair.

36:35Doesn't he have enough security that this should not be happening? He rolled with no security. He rolled by himself everywhere. I met a guy at BrandRest who told me I'm Charleston White security. That's a lie. Listen, when Charleston White go to different states, I swear I'm not lying to you, bro. He pull up and he just find niggas from the hood and get rides everywhere he go. He get rides, get dropped off here, get dropped off there. No Uber, just niggas that he meet. That's cool. I want to do that. That would he do. He'd meet somebody random and say, give me a ride. That would he be doing. This nigga crazy.

36:58Wow. I'm not playing. That would he do. We did it in Detroit. We was in Detroit. He walked into the motherfucking store. He thought he was there for promo. So he walked in and started doing promo. They asked to take pictures of him and put him on live. He did everything. I said, you know he ain't supposed to be here? He said, yeah. But where else are we going to be? Are you going to box? I ain't going to do no fighting. Why not? Why would I fight? You shook? Nah, I ain't shook. I used to fight. I used to fight well. But I think at this point in my life, fighting is kind of like pointless when I'm fighting for somebody else.

37:22I'm going to fight for a cause that I stand for. I'm going to fight for money and fame. No, no. Let me tell you something. Look, so this is what I do, Adam. Let me show you what I do in my life. Let me show you. You can tell the difference between a nigga that's kind of like a slave and a real man. Let me tell you this. So I do. I speak. So anything on the lines of speaking, I do. So I do podcasts and I go do some acting, anything that use my voice. Right now, if they ask me to fight anything outside of that, then I'm now a slave.

37:46Rooga:So you think that there's more integrity in doing a reality show where you attempt to have sex with a bunch of midgets than to go do a boxing match? No, that's what you think. I never attempt to have sex with midgets. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying that it's better to keep using your voice instead of trying to fight when you're going to go home and fight your family. The people that's fighting right now, they have no emotional control. So as soon as they have a fight, they're going to lose or they're going to win. They're not going to be able to take it. They're going to go home and fight.

38:08They're family.

38:09Rooga:Everybody who was in the recent Branris fight seemed like they had pretty strong emotional control, including Super Hot Fire who got called the N-word to his face and to his girlfriend. And he still remained pretty calm. That's on camera. You're not seeing them when they're at home beating their wives and beating their kids. You ain't seeing that side of their life. Why would Super Hot Fire beat his wife? You're not seeing that side of their life. You too busy looking at the grammar side. No, I'm knowing for a fact. Everybody that fight without emotional control in the trenches go home and they start shit.

38:34Ruga seems like he's under control. Oh, yeah. K-Mac seems like he's under control. Ruga. Why do you think Ruga fight in the first place? Because he's out of control. No. Ruger is out of control because the whole world is out of control. Because the whole world is trolling him. Act like he got to be under duck. Act like he's just not his own person. So Ruger is upset and trying to show himself. So now he's fighting. Ruger fights sideways. He seemed very calm in the lead up to that fight. No, he didn't want to fight.

38:54Rooga:It was a pretty calm approach during the fight. And then afterwards he was also pretty calm. Because he's fighting to show y 'all that he can fight. But not that he want to fight. Ruger don't want to fight. But he's fighting to show people that he can fight. Well, Ruger did say that he doesn't really plan on taking the boxing thing super far. Maybe just do a couple fights and then be done with it. He can't take it far. He fights sideways. He needs to stop fighting. I'm keeping it real, right? Listen, I love Ruger, but listen, he fights sideways. That was a good win because they put somebody in there that couldn't fight.

39:17Listen, K-Mac, all this, got his ass knocked the fuck out. I'm going to say this. Well, not really. How the fuck he was on the fucking ground?

39:25Rooga:He got knocked out at one point, but he didn't get knocked out. He got knocked the fuck out, nigga. But then he fought all three rounds. Cool. So like this? Like that? Yeah, everybody in the boxing commentary world when these influencer fights, Everybody says knocked out in situations where it's clearly not a knockout. Well, listen. They say you got knocked out because you didn't throw a punch. That's knocked out. But that's also an example. That's a knockout. You didn't throw a fucking punch. You got knocked out. Come on, gang. You didn't throw a punch. You in the ring. You didn't throw a punch.

39:50Right, but I didn't get knocked out. This nigga got knocked down. That's knocked out in the hood. If you fall down, it's knocked out. Knocked up immediately. But here's the thing. Y 'all did that because y 'all thought. What y 'all thought? Y 'all always think this. I'm going to tell you it's good LA. Y 'all think this. y 'all thought that Ruger was going to get his ass whooped. That's why y 'all gave him that fight. Y 'all wanted Ruger to get whooped.

40:09Rooga:I did not choose that fight for him. I don't know where you got that idea. I thought Ruger was going to lose too. Yeah. I ain't going to lie because he ended up winning. Well, I mean, it's easy to understand why people thought that because K-Mac, if you've ever looked at his social media, his social media is like all about fighting and boxing. Whereas with Ruger, I don't know if I ever heard him even talk about fighting besides this. The only reason why K-Mac fought him is because everybody thinks that K-Mac can fight. K-Mac kind of won by intimidation before the fight. Well, he helped with the odds probably by marketing himself as a fighter.

40:40But now he can not get another fight. I guarantee nobody would ever better him again. How?

40:44Rooga:I mean. Everybody know he can't fight. How the fuck do I get another fight? I think Brand Risk is trying to get him another fight. And then after that, obviously, he could fight in smaller promotion. Brand Risk hold Brand at risk for fucking over Blueface. I don't think you understand what's going on. I would say almost like Blueface is probably more at risk than Brand Risk. How? blue face is the without blue face brand risk can't get nobody to make a bat okay brand risk argument is you didn't put the sponsor's logos on your shorts so that's pretty easy to understand he uh said how much he got paid which wasn't supposed to and immediately after the fight he said that the whole thing was a scam so all three of those i would say are pretty clear violations of his contract on the other hand what kind of uh ammo does blue face and whack have that they're throw it at Brad Riz.

41:30Rooga:They're basically just saying that Aiden was sexually harassing WAC. That he wanted to have sex with WAC. Like, we're supposed to take this serious. I don't think he'll say it was really going on, but you're going to understand it. I read the whole text conversation. It was just Aiden saying he was gay a bunch of times. It's like, that's not a sexual... That's sexual f***ing assault. Saying you're gay? To another man. No. Why would you tell another man your sexual preference? Good luck finding a court in America that's going to take that as sexual assault because you just said that you're gay.

41:56I'm going to say this. Do you know that WAC 100 and Blueface got enough power right now to start their own fucking boxing league? Yeah, they did. And get away with it.

42:04Rooga:It's called nothing but content. Yeah, so what you think is going to happen now? I don't think you understand, right? They're going to do their own fights. And realistically, it's probably going to be a little bit of an uphill battle, just like Brand Risk. It's going to take a lot of fights in order to really build up the brand name. But, I mean, they'll probably do it. Blueface is the brand name. WAC 100 is the brand name. He on your show every week. All he got to do is keep coming here. It's going to blow up. Okay, but Aiden Ross is a bigger name than either of them. And Aiden Ross - Aiden Ross is a fucking industry's plant.

42:30Rooga:Nobody know where the fuck he came from. What industry? Where he come from? We don't see his grind. We even see your grind. I definitely saw the Aiden Ross grind. We don't see his grind. I did like Aiden Ross' first interview. Man, he popped out of nowhere. Yeah, that's how you know he's a fucking plant. I did his first interview like five or six years ago. Because you planted him here. Yeah. You think I could do that? If I could plant him into the role he's in, I would have planted myself into the role that he's in. You're doing it now. I see you walking around right now streaming. You think I'm dumb?

42:54planting yourself in there right now. I've been streaming for years. Yeah, you streaming now again, just like they streaming. You doing it running around. I saw you at the mall streaming. I saw you eating streaming. Was that the mall? No, it was eating. My fault. Not the mall. Eating. Before King Pills fight. Yeah, before King Pills fight. I saw you there. Yeah, and they ran up an$800 tab

43:10Rooga:and I was pissed. Yeah, they should have. I'm like a Jew. They ordered 10 shots of Don Julio. It was$320. You're the richest. You're supposed to take the bill. I'm not the richest. Come on. King Pills should have paid. How? He only had the money. He's the only person who was getting paid to be there. That's the only thing. he got was the money from that fight. King Peele ain't got no other kind of money. And you know that. He was trying to fight you about$100 last time. You know he broke. Yeah. He ain't got no money. I mean, sometimes he seems broke, but then like, how does he have an apartment in Arizona or wherever he's at now?

43:37Rooga:And he doesn't seem like he has a job. You can tell when King Peele broke, he started cussing everybody out. As soon as that money ran out, he got on the internet calling everybody cusses and bustles and fuck you. I didn't respond to King Peele for like a week, and then he started making Instagram reels attacking me. No, the money ran out. I ain't about you not responding and when his money run out, he start acting crazy. That's what I got on my mind. Everybody knows about King Peel. King Peel is fucked up. Oh, my God. Michael said to me thumbnails of what it looked like when Gritman was coming.

44:03Why do you want to talk about that? What? About him chasing me around. Like, you think that's cool? That's not funny. Bro, he wasn't going to do anything to you. How the fuck you know that? I'm not going to play with no time bombs.

44:12Rooga:I know he has enough respect for me. He's not going to beat you up for no reason in the world of a podcast. Then why the fuck would he come over here? Because he's playing games. He's not. That ain't how you fucking play. That's not how you fucking play. we started. I said, hey, Crip Man, let's do some content. You set me up. You told him to do that. That's why I'm not playing. I'm not doing this shit no more. But see, okay, you see you're doing the 4Xtra thing again where you're acting like 4Xtra was so wrong for giving you a stern talking to. Oh my God, you told him. He didn't even touch you.

44:40Rooga:And same thing with Crip Man. He wrestled with you. Why the f*** would you tell him I'm a Hoover? Why the f*** would you tell him about all these games where you know he got a Hoover kill on his head, he here disrespecting every Hoover in the set, and then you gonna do this shit. How am I gonna have a Hoover on the podcast with a guy. I'm not a Hooper no more. I'm a prophet of God. I got the tattoo covered up. I'm not going to cover it up. Stop hanging out with T-Roll. I'm from the streets. I never hung out with T-Roll. I hung out with Smack. How was that? Right? Smack. Oh, man. I love Smack. Stinks, right?

45:04No, he don't stink. I love Smack. Smells like Newport's feet. No, stop. Why you got to do this to everybody? I've been around him. I know. He does not smell like Newport's feet, but he do smoke Newport's. He smells like a urinal. No, he do not. No, he smells like a port-a-pot. No, he don't. You're weird. He came to my house and I f*** with him, gang.

45:22and Gumby, right? But listen, I don't know what's going on with Gumby. Did you do that? I never saw that. I did. That actually sounds pretty interesting. Oh my God. You know you see all my shit.

45:30Rooga:Stop acting like you don't see my shit. I would like to see how Smack could hang in that environment. You see everything. You know you see all my shit. You are a fan, nigga. No, I don't watch your shit. You are a fan. I don't. Come on, guys. I could probably scroll through your whole channel and not one of them is going to have a red bar at the bottom. You just posted that your favorite interview came off my channel. No, it was the Bob report that's my that's i did that i produced that that's my production it's my production i put it together actually honestly i've now watched more bob report content than your content because i don't think i've ever watched a full piece of content on your podcast oh my god you know 607 unkin smack make og gumby crash and this is why i can't watch it because your grammar is not even right in the title oh 607 unkin smack makes og gumby crash out no they make og gumby Oh, so I f***ed up the title, right?

46:20Rooga:You did. And I can't watch titles without grammar. Right, right. It's not for me. And that's why it's an old title and I change my new titles now. Look at my new titles. They're very better. But that's what I was just talking about. You should take your title, put it in ChatGBT, and say, hey, is my grammar f***ed? And they're going to say, yes, you ignorant moron. Fix it. Listen, I just learned how to actually do this. I quantum leap here. No, I mean, I don't really do too much. Also, you're acting like this is some huge f***ing podcast. It has the summary right under it. I actually didn't know that YouTube had that.

46:46Rooga:Oh, my God. Every single link has a summary. Oh, my God. We did a podcast together. It did okay. 69K. It did okay. It didn't do well. That's all right. It did okay. But - The people want to see Gumby on my platform. No, Gumby did like 20K on my platform too. They don't want to see you and Gumby because you guys are kind of like the same. We are the same. I don't know. I'm not that crazy. Me and Gumby is like two different sides of the coin. No, you and Gumby are kind of like the same because y 'all both mentally f***ing tarded. No, we're both killers. What the f*** have you killed other than ass?

47:17Mostly ass I'm like Crit Mac I'm just not going to tell you about them And you kill niggas career I'm capable You was the person that really killed King Peel I'm going to keep saying it And keep saying it You destroyed King Peel Stalled him out for a little bit and then brought him back Just to destroy him again Well I just have been ignoring him and now he's making reels about me You're doing it on purpose I just really don't care He just keeps hitting me up being like

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48:20Own the dream.

48:22Rooga:He's trying to say he wants to fight Crip Mac. Crip Mac don't even want to fight because they're not offering him enough money, so it's like... No. If he would have won that fight, you would continue to fuck with him. The moment he lost, you was done with him. You did, Kirk. We would have won, we would have gotten more fights, you would have been fucking with him. Yeah, exactly. He lost, So you're saying it's my fault That when you as a boxer Lose a fight that that is a bad thing For your fight career But why would you leave him in the moment As soon as he lose you like ran off Before the fight y 'all was together Probably hung out for like an extra hour after he lost I mean the live stream is out there you can go watch it That's it but after he lost you like F***ed him again No I went home because it was like 10pm Come on game before the fight y 'all was all like y 'all's big buddy buddy As soon as he lost f*** him again That was like the only time I had hung out with him Besides one podcast like ever we just happened to be IRL streaming.

49:10Rooga:Because he lost. No I mean I'm down to do content with him I don't care. If he would have won you've been doing way more content with him. He hits me with ideas all the time about different podcasts that we could do together and none of them really stood out to me as like a great idea. And then he kind of X'd himself out of the CMAX situation by insulting King Five Fingers. That was wrong. Now when he did that I'm like yo why you do that? I think that's something like some things not content. Because like he probably can't come to no jumping no more. Because if Matt come up there it's probably going to be a problem.

49:36I won't go live with King Peele. I mean shit.

49:38Rooga:Crip Mac's not gonna come here to attack someone. He just disrespects somebody's whole neighborhood. That's like his whole thing. Have you seen his forehead? So it's past that. It's past. I'm saying one thing saying fuck you Crip Mac but don't put nobody else in it. Once you put somebody else in it that's on you. He could put someone else in it but definitely probably not King Five Fingers. I wouldn't put nobody else in it. Crip Mac and King Five Fingers are just that's like his big homie. He refuses to anyway say anything. I don't know who King Five Fingers is in but respect to him. I ain't gonna disrespect nobody.

50:04I don't give a fuck about none of that shit. I don't disrespect people all the time.

50:06Rooga:It's just people you know mostly. I don't disrespect anybody. People think I do. I'll be saying different shit, but people take it how they fucking take it. Right. Okay. Why did you have DJU on your podcast? I feel like you didn't ask, like, enough questions. I asked a lot of questions. I made him cry. Who else going to make a nigga cry real quick? Yeah, what was he crying about, though? Because he killed the whole Chicago. He know it. See, in that way, like, DJU would get a more fair interview with me than you. Well, because I wouldn't accuse him of being responsible for death. He don't fuck with you.

50:34because he said I took his whole lane. You took his whole lane. He's satisfied. Do you think that shit funny? Yeah. That shit not funny but I let him know the reason why because he having this problem because a lot of people got murdered on this platform and he need to go ahead and talk to the guys about that. Right? A lot of people when they sit down they die and listen he cried about it so I think it's kind of like over now but the way he was crying and what was going on did you know I called him he said he won't come back. I don't give a fuck. That was some soft bad shit. He cried.

50:59Rooga:You know how many fucking people have been on this podcast who died? Right. Everybody dies at the end of the day But everybody died on his platform That's different A lot of people but look at who he's interviewing He's interviewing the same type of people you interview But who died on your platform On my podcast they kind of need to rise to a certain level of prominence He's interviewing dudes who are straight off the block They don't even rap they just shoot people When someone like that dies It's kind of hard to be all that sad I ain't going to just completely put him down I'm not even putting him down I was actually totally cool with DJU and then he decided that he wanted to start hating on me because i started doing more interviews with chicago people it's like guess what you don't own the trap vlad vlad's my boy vlad interviews people that i interview all the time right and don't ask me for permission guess what we all do the same thing and it was it's just totally untenable to think that you're going to be like the only person interviewing people in your niche like that really made me realize that dju maybe wasn't all there but why didn't you do it with him it's like this so you come over there why would i do it with him Because you over there doing the same shit in his lane.

52:00Why wouldn't you do it with him?

52:01Rooga:Interviewing rappers, which I've been doing since 2015, way before he even thought about doing it. But not in Chicago. Zach TV was the first one doing it. Why does Chicago get some special protected sayings? Because you're not from Chicago, nigga. I interview people from all over the world. But you can't just go to Chicago and just set up shop and start interviewing everybody in Chicago. I did. I've been to Chicago and I did interviews there. I'm saying, but you got to fuck with the people that have been in Chicago just trying to grind. So you got to fuck with people like DJU. That's wrong, Adam.

52:23That's wrong.

52:24Rooga:So I have to have him as a co-host because he has done interviews with Chicago rappers. before. Imagine this. Imagine pulling up somewhere in LA and just coming to somebody and trying to just sell drugs there. You have to connect with people when you do that. Selling drugs is different than doing podcasts. It's not different. It's how people eat. Doing podcasts is legal. It's how they eat. It's their money. If there's something wrong on a podcast, then you can get sued. If you go to the wrong block selling drugs, they're going to shoot you. But that's how they eat. It's the same thing. They got the same mentality.

52:50You're dealing with street people talking to street people. You got to follow by street rules, gang.

52:53Rooga:I understand street stuff gets solved in the streets through revenge, through violence. in the podcast world, I interview a bunch of people from Chicago and he doesn't like it. What can you do? Well, you could sue me, but not really. That's what I'm saying. You can't sue me. No. You could just feel angry and violated about it because you're soft and you think that like - He's not soft. He thinks he's supposed to have some kind of monopoly on interviewing Chicago rappers. Why does he feel entitled to that? Because he's from Chicago. But keep in mind, DJU's come up was noticing that 16 Shotum was dropping the ball.

53:27Rooga:So then he started interviewing Chicago rappers and basically took 16 spot. And then I, around the same time, really started doing a lot more Chicago interviews. And then he got furious with me, even though what I did to him was the exact same thing that he just did to 16. The only difference is that they're both from Chicago. Guess what? I'm an American. We all live in this goddamn country. Him and 16 got to it for a totally different reason. 16 say that it was because, you know, he was hating on him. but I don't think that's the reason. He's hating on me. I'm the only one who wasn't hating on either of them.

54:00Did you know that DJU is just like Krip Mac when it comes to mental?

54:04Rooga:That is a pretty bold statement. I'm sure he's going to be really happy about you saying that. No, I'm keeping it real. You think he's schizophrenic and bipolar? Yes. Really? For a fact. I didn't know that. So you are playing with somebody that you have to understand that he get depressed fast that you can't keep doing the things that you're doing. See how he cried on my show. So I don't think you understand. You're playing with people that have feelings, Adam. Everybody have feelings and you need to stop playing with everybody's feelings, especially DJU. I think everybody else needs to stop having so many feelings.

54:30I mean, why wouldn't people have feelings when people was born to feel? Everybody not a prophet like me. Everybody not a disconnect from their feelings. These people are trying to cope with life and you are still playing with their life.

54:38Rooga:But the thing is, is that I have tons of relationships with people who also do interviews, including like you. Like, I might joke around with you about interviewing with Felice Johnson, but do I actually give a fuck? No. You do content with Jaleese or Gumby after I did or whatever. Do I care? No, I don't give a fuck. But meanwhile, DJU feels like he's had some grave injustice done to him because I started interviewing more Chicago rappers. Even though I interviewed 600 Breezy in 2016, I interviewed a shitload of Chicago rappers over the years, like way before I even thought about doing interviews with Chicago rappers.

55:11Rooga:And it's like he gets so offended by that, you don't have a leg to stand on. And the reason why he can't really even talk about it in interviews is because his argument is so stupid that nobody will take it serious. He don't talk about it because he's not trying to give you any light. Listen, I told him this. He doesn't have to worry about giving me light because my light shines a thousand times brighter than him. Not without Chicago. Yes. Not without Chicago. How many interviews with Chicago people do I do these days? That's what. Almost none. And nobody gives a f***. Nothing changed for me. Chicago was a lot hotter a couple years ago.

55:41Shit cooled off. Right. Right. Chicago probably did cool off in your sense because everybody quit f***ing with you. No, because everybody's dead. A lot of. Damn. Or locked up. Yeah. That kind of deal with it. But back to DJU and rest in peace to all the dead. But listen, I'm going to say this. When it goes to DJU, he don't want to talk about you for this reason. I say, yo, I'm doing something with Adam. Once you come down here, we can do kind of like a Midwest and West Coast collaborate. He said, I'm not f***ing with Adam. F*** Adam, I want to fight him. So I think he'll take that fade.

56:07Rooga:You know what's funny? When I was in Chicago, he actually DM'd me and basically asked me to go do content with him. And my response was that I'm not f***ing with you until you make it cool with Remo. because he was hating on Remo before he was hating on me. He blocked Remo or some shit like that. And I basically told him, I ain't fucking with you unless you make it cool with Remo. And then he never responded to that. So that's a clear example that he's just lying about the timeline of him not fucking with me. But the thing is, you do a whole lot of talking about him. The thing is, you talk about a lot of people behind their back.

56:40I'm going to see how you like it. You say a lot of shit, right? I'm going to say how you like it. This shit you're saying is really weird, bro. But I'm going to say this. What I'm saying is not weird in any sense. It's incredibly logical. I know for a fact you stepped on his toes. I know for a fact you stepped on his toes in Chicago. I know for a fact you did that. I know for a fact you did that, and I know for a fact you stole everything from him, and you just need to go ahead and admit that. Who did I steal from him? You're going to admit that. Yo, look, I'm on a little jumper right now, right?

57:07What I'm trying to do, Adam's trying to act like he didn't steal your whole fucking thing. Like he didn't come down and just take everything that the fuck you got. He just act like that never happened. and my thing is that he right here he said all this kind of like shit I'm like you gotta speak up for yourself I don't understand why this man is steady talking to bullshit and he's steady fucking talking I'm for real I know you don't want to go back and forth but this clown ass nigga saying some weird ass shit like he didn't come over to Chicago and just try to take your whole fucking lane you on L right now?

57:41I'm right now

57:46Rooga:Man, tell out of myself, what's up, man? Hello, DJU. How you doing? Yeah, he right there. Hey, y 'all funny as hell. Ain't nobody. No, I'm free. I called you for a reason. You're going to see this shit. You're talking all kinds of shit. Let me call you. You're talking all the shit behind his back. Let me go ahead and call him right now. That's why I called you right now. Ain't seen him come out. You see me sitting right next to him. He's saying all this shit. I mean at first we was just talking about some other shit But he just got really kind of like Talking about you and 16 shot him He say that you played him Played 16 shot him and all this shit Like all kind of weird ass shit that I know you didn't do Nah you know it's all love buddy That's all he gonna say That's what I'm saying He didn't get the time of the day to even respond to you So you can just stop because DJ you don't got time for it DJ he said that you're depressed and schizophrenic And bipolar He is depressed He is depressed you know he's just capping the line what I told him was you have mental illnesses that people understand why you laughing it's not funny how is that funny you telling him that he has mental illnesses I'm telling you we all do in the community we suffer from this in the black community the shit you don't know about and you play with all the time all our nervous system in the trenches is fucked up and you play with us I don't think you understand gang maybe you should work on your diet it's cause you eat sugar all day I eat one time a day, gang.

59:10I don't think you understand. I don't eat no fucking sugar. I eat OMAD, dude. You came in here with a bag of Skittles. No, the fuck I didn't. You were a fucking Skittles. That cup was full of Skittles earlier. Bro, you weird. But let me say this. Let me say this. When it comes to you in Chicago, you have stolen the whole Chicago narrative. You have played with everybody in Chicago. You have played with everybody. You have played with me. And you will not stop. I think that at some point, you have to take responsibility and say, you know what? My bad. Because like - For what? For doing the shit that you did.

59:35For playing with the people that you play with. for hurting the people you hurt. You got to think, bro, you came into a whole culture, right? It ain't like you came over there and made it better. You went over there and started way more trouble than anybody ever started there. Come on to LA and go back out there. I never heard anybody say that. What?

59:50Rooga:What commotion have I caused in Chicago? The whole O-Block shit come from you. What? Them killing duck? Oh my God. You like to play, huh? You tell me what the O-Block shit is. All right, so who was dissing everybody? Who was dissing Wooski? Who was dissing everybody in Chicago. What does me previously dissing have to do with O-Block? I'm not saying that. Who's dissing everybody? Who's playing all the games? You. Who were playing all the games in Chicago from the beginning? So again, we're talking about who got killed. We ain't gonna talk about that. Or like a serious beef. We're not gonna speak on that, but you know what you do.

1:00:21Rooga:Your best example is like me and Wooski talking shit to each other. My best example is what you did to Mama Duck was wrong. What'd I do? Not pay for her fucking five-star hotel? DJU was wrong. I can name everybody that you did in Chicago. Zero compelling evidence. What relationship in Chicago that you had from the beginning and you still got now? I got tons of relationships with Chicago. Who do you think I don't have relationships with in Chicago? Ruger don't like you. Ruger don't fuck with you. Ruger did. He interviewed me like two weeks ago. Yeah, why? Because you paid him. People come for the money.

1:00:49He just fought for money. Niggas ain't fuck with you because they want to fuck with you. They fuck with you because you got money. You keep drinking over niggas' heads.

1:00:53Rooga:I had to pay him because he had to come from out of town to do it. Of course. And he's been on the podcast a bunch of times. I usually pay repeat guests. But that don't mean that you can run around and steady play with Chicago like it's some kind of game, right? a lot of times, which continue to do. And like I told you, I told you to you, I said, yo, I'm coming out. I'm going to tell him on the phone. I said, I'm coming out to No Jump. I want you to link with me. And we're going to come out and do content with Adam. And we're going to bring together a camaraderie of motherfuckers doing all content.

1:01:18Camaraderie. Why would you correct me like that? Because you said the word wrong. I always say word wrong. Nigga, I'm black. I don't speak white. So my words be wrong sometimes.

1:01:26Rooga:So you think being black is the explanation for how you can't say words right? I want to talk how to speak properly, nigga. I want to talk how to pronounce words. We're sure they taught you. No, they didn't. You just didn't care and it didn't work. Come on, gang. They didn't teach us how to speak like they taught you. We have two different kind of languages. I bet that the school that I went to had a pretty similar level of education as yours. That's what I'm trying to tell you, bro. When it come to you and what you do to Chicago, to everybody else, you do it with no remorse. Even right now, I'm back.

1:01:50You never apologized to what you did to me. What did I do? You almost got me killed on several occasions. We don't need to talk about this anymore, but that's bullshit. I'm just saying. I'm scared. I ain't nobody scared. I'm just saying that right now, I got DJ on the phone. all you can. He hasn't said anything in like five minutes. So I apologize. So right now, for doing what you said you did. I didn't do anything. I don't know. I don't give you no apology. I think he do because he's like, he's been playing on niggas name and playing on Chicago and just playing on everything. Act like you and 16 shot him into it for a reason.

1:02:18Rooga:I said that DJU stole 16 shot him's trap, which he has every right to do. He didn't steal his trap. Yeah, he did. He admits that. He talks about it all the time. Oh my God. You like this clickbait. I mean, I'm pretty sure you talked about it when I interviewed him. That's smart business. Then he gonna say that you hit him up when he came down there and told you you wanted to do content with Adam. Did you ever hit Adam up to do content? I hit Adam up last time that was in Chicago. So why can't we all do content? Why can't I get y 'all to get everybody together, we get down here and we just fix it.

1:02:49The invitation's wide open. DJ, you can come here anytime.

1:02:51Rooga:Why we ain't doing it then? Let's do it. You said that he turned it down. Nah, nah, fuck that. He didn't pull up on me when he was in Chicago. I was very busy. I pulled up on what's her name? Jerea O. Right. Don't make me talk about her apartment. Oh my God. It's bad. I wanted to buy her a cleaner. Oh my God. But I think you and DJU should sit down. If y 'all don't sit down for the culture for Chicago, y 'all should sit down. Because there's been a long back and forth feud. And I think that y 'all should go ahead and clean it up and get together and talk about it. Let's do it. Bald head brothers.

1:03:26Can we do that, DJU? Get together and talk about it. Yeah, I'm about to talk to Adam. No problem. Yeah, that's good. You remember this is my second time He told me don't go over and fuck with this nigga That's what you told me don't go over and fuck with that nigga But I came over and fuck with him And I'm still trying to get you to fuck with him We're talking Let's do it

1:03:45Rooga:I was almost going to tell him about you Trying to get sexy with Crip Max Come on, why do you play so much Now he's going to fuck with you Because I just did that Everybody talk about him calling from now on That was good Whoever you talk about him calling so you can't talk about nobody I'm calling all that shit they ain't gonna wait till it come out Laura's watching the Crypt Mac podcast and she said how the fuck is she watching now is that shit out she works for me she's editing it she said nah the chair switches hilarious oh my god we think that shit funny we switched so many chairs and also you think that shit funny but also Lupe is trying to tell me to take out the part where Pill was dissing King Five Fingers I wouldn't take that now it's there they're gonna like bleep out the King see I could bleep out the King Five Fingers part but You didn't bleep out when I said woo-woo-woo-woo-woo-woo-woo-woo.

1:04:31Rooga:We're alive. You ain't go back and bleep it out. I'm not going to bleep it out retroactively. You put the clip up. That's not how that works. You put the clip up. You better not bleep it out. I swear to God, you ain't bleep my shit out. What if King Pill gets killed? What if I would've got killed? Fifth Street Crips. What the fuck all that? I would've got killed? So you better not bleep that shit out. No trouble putting anything in content. You know that. Do what the fuck you do. But I don't want King Pill to get murked. What about me? So you didn't give a fuck about me? We were live. But you still clipped it after.

1:04:58So what? So what about that? We were live. If you don't clip it, I guarantee you, I will tell it. The problem is, too, is that we were doing it.

1:05:09Rooga:It don't matter. He's on the phone. You can barely hear him. So if we bleep it. It don't matter. It's going to be weird. Even if you bleep it, I'm going to tell everybody what the fuck he said. I mean, we already probably have, like, said it on here also. Even then, like, we talk about it after. Well, I'm going to say a lot of times. But I'm not going to lie. They always tell me to delete stuff, and then I don't delete it, and then they don't even notice or remember it. Everybody should get fucked up that come to No Jumper that you want to get fucked up because you try to get me fucked up. That's how that shit goes.

1:05:35What are your thoughts on BroRilla? Is the BroRilla wave over, or is it continuing on? BroRilla wave, let me tell you this. Can I hit your dope? Let me say this. I'm going to find me something. Let me hit your dope. No, you can't hit shit I got. Is that a cup of roaches? Let me get a fry. Let me get a light. Don't say fry. We're over. You can't say that word. Let me tell you this about do you see who bro will it running around with? Look at this. It's talking white ass and white's eye. Say cheese had that. You know who bro will it running around with now? Paisa dance on it. Who's she running around with?

1:06:09The Hustle Quartel. Who's that again? You don't know who that is? That's the nigga that was so-called he got like a billion dollars worth of most of the Nigeria he wore on his thing, and he was kind of like best friends with Finesse two times. But they kind of like fell out. And after they fell out, he been running around trying to figure out how to get back, and he figured out how to get back, he didn't cuffed on the drag. Find a good stud. Yeah, he had a drag. But you know, I'm gonna say this, and I'm gonna say this to everybody watching this, everybody know this, that Bro Rilla, she entertaining, she funny, but I don't think she got what it takes to last in this field.

1:06:39Rooga:You don't think? No, no, because last in this field, you gotta be consistent with doing content and not buying new shit. right when i see people steady spending tons of yeah when i'm saying people i saw that video of her like buying chains for her whole team but it seemed very very fake not that she bought teeth them motherfuckers very fake but very real that she bought chains very fake but very real right okay what ryan with the sauce did uh bro rilla and woody 20 women versus two comedians has almost 400k in six days that's pretty good a month ago 20 women versus bro rilla 800k it doesn't seem like her way is over.

1:07:16DJ, you did it that went good too. You gotta think about it. You gotta think about it. No, you gotta think about it. It go up but then that's the after effect. I don't need

1:07:23Rooga:to go to Memphis. Look at this. Her and Skin Bone one month ago. Almost a million. They did good. I don't think Bro Real is done. No, I don't think I'm saying that's the after effect. I'm not saying she done but she can't keep that up. Listen, I'm saying it's about content. If you keep doing the same thing over and over again, it's gonna eventually go down. I'm not saying that it's bad but I'm saying that she gotta find a way to do something more than what she's been doing. Yeah, she's going to have to smash it up. She need a platform. She got to make her own platform. She's a very entertaining stud.

1:07:50Rooga:Yes. What more can you really ask for? She need her own platform. The problem people do, they bounce around and go everywhere, and that will hurt people. She have yet to create her own platform and bring her own income. Everywhere she's going, she's going off getting paid, so she's going to keep on running and not have time to make a platform. So by the time everything run out, she's going to try to create a platform and not going to go nowhere. But if your time of getting attention is going to run out, I feel like having your own platform is almost kind of overrated because if the people lose interest in you and you still have your own channel, who the f*** cares?

1:08:21They never lose interest in you. You start doing less numbers. You have your own channel. You will still collect from them less numbers.

1:08:26Rooga:But BroRilla is always going to be able to go to one of these 20 versus one guys or somebody like me and try to do an interview if it seems like it'll work. Like for me, if she says that she wants to do an interview and she's doing a million interviews How many interviews can she do? She can't do too many interviews, bro. That's what I'm saying. She can't do all this shit over and over again. She got to figure out something to do. What happened with Woody? Bro, Rilla could be like you. What happened with Woody? She could do a lot of content. I don't do a lot of content. Woody still gets paid interviews and paid 20 versus ones and all this shit.

1:08:54But they slow down. Okay, so I'm saying you can't run at the same pace. Even the sun got to burn out one day. So I'm just saying that they have to find other things to do. That's all I'm saying. I'm arguing with this motherfucker about if your career is over. I'm saying I think that your career is going to last a long time. saying what she gotta do to keep her career going is do something else you can't keep doing the same thing over and over again i'm not saying it's over listen don't let don't let them trick you out don't let them trick you out that bag don't let them trick you on the bag bro don't let them trick you listen wait let's hear her out don't let them trick you what the you doing you need another career walk around that's not what i said that's not what i said you don't call me a nigga I love you stop playing with me you don't know what the fuck I just said listen to me bro bro I hang around everybody I'm a prophet of God but listen bro you hang around in truck look look look look Jesus had the same thing listen you you with hustle cartel ask him about me but this is what I said I said in order for you to keep on going listen I said in order for you to keep on going what you need to do.

1:10:08I said create your own platform. I said make your platform. Listen. I said make your own platform. Make your own money. Make your own money. Make your own platform. Make your own money is what I said. I said make your own platform. Make your own money. That's what I said. I didn't say this nigga faking. He faking. I say you need to create your game. Man, this nigga faking. Man, you weird. You weird as fuck. Let this white nigga send you off. You weird as fuck. You let this nigga send you off. You let this white nigga send you off. You stupid as fuck. You stupid as fuck. Man, get that little dumbass girl on.

1:10:52Man, she dumb as fuck. Hey, I'm going to hit you up. She dumb as fuck. I'm going to just come to Memphis. You still in Memphis? She dumb as fuck. I was just talking to her. I'm going to hit you up. Let's get it in. This nigga's a fucker. He put everybody back. I don't know what she got to do to go up. This nigga dumb as shit. She's bipolar. Man, you fuck up. I'm going to hit you up. He just tricked you. He just tricked you. Let me call her. Boy, you just tricked the fuck out of her. You weird as hell. You put a batter in everybody's back. This is not right. But she going to go crazy. I didn't summarize what you were saying.

1:11:21No, you didn't. I didn't say that. I said that she need to keep doing something else. Boy, you good. That was good, right? Yeah, you good. I set her up so bad. Fair. And she going to be talking all shit about me right now. Right now. Right now. Fuck me. She f***ed that, and I like her. Listen, but now I'm gonna say this. Like I said for Glowrilla, Brorilla, whatever. You look like a Brorilla. Listen, I'm gonna say this. Bro, I'm trying to say this. You are doing what you're doing, and I like what you're doing, but in order to sustain yourself in this environment, you have to create your own platform.

1:11:51You have to be the one responsible for paying you. What about Charleston White? He don't got his own platform. I just told him this. I'm trying to tell this to all content creators, and that's why I'm saying this. I think you should do this too. Wack doesn't really have a big platform. Let me tell you what I told these people. Let me tell you what I told him. I think you should do it too. I said, yo, Charleston White, you ain't got no platform. Start making platform for my network and I'll give you 70%. Let me get 30. We'll shoot it for you. We'll do everything for you for free. Right? We'll do everything, but we'll keep you persistent.

1:12:17Charleston's not this dumb. Why wouldn't nobody do that? That's not dumb.

1:12:20Rooga:I mean, why does he need you to set up a camera on a tripod and plug a microphone in? I got the same shit you got. We got the same shit now. I know, and I wouldn't have the nerve to offer Charleston White a deal where I take 30 % just to set the camera up. What you mean? ain't setting the camera up. It's doing what they can't do. Getting it out repeatedly at the same time. Making sure the post the thumbnail is correct. Making sure the business is too careful. I know. I could hire like one guy to help them. Okay. If people can do that then why they bouncing around for everybody's platforms? I only go where I need to go.

1:12:48I come to your platform a few other places but I don't go a lot of places. I only go. You don't like everywhere. No I don't. Only when I'm traveling with Charleston White. Only when I'm already outside. Niggas can't get in touch with me.

1:12:56Rooga:I'm exclusive. You aren't fucking. Come on gang. Come on. I'm exclusive. I'm exclusive as hell. You are the least exclusive of anyone I know. Only reason I did say cheese for only reason because he contacted me after I came off here. You got me that say cheese interview. He ain't f***ing me ever. Soon as I said something about him over here, he called me. So, it was good. Okay. But, no, that's why I did it. Because, like, he did everybody in St. Louis. He kind of, like, borderline from St. Louis and he stopped doing St. Louis content. So, I really wanted to do content with him. St. Louis was kind of cold, right?

1:13:26I mean, no, the content scene is kind of cold because people don't know how to do content. Well, the music-wise, too, after Sexy Red. No, music's good.

1:13:32Rooga:Everybody likes the idea. When Chief Keef blew up out of Chicago, a million... Where'd you get pizza? How many times you did CTS Wick? And you know he make good music. I can't eat it. I'm on a diet. But, okay. How many times you did CTS Wick? CTS Wick. That is a good example of someone who came out after Sexy Red. But I'm just saying, it's not like the city exploded. When Chief Keef came out, you had a whole generation of superstars coming out of Chicago. You're talking about real killers. St. Louis niggas is real killers and they're hard to be around, so it's kind of hard to get them structured to do the music.

1:14:00Rooga:A lot of the people who blew up out of Chicago were killers as well. No, but they left Chicago. Or at least like very adjacent to killers. He left Chicago. Yeah, he's the one dude who left. But they still stuck in St. Louis. They cannot get out. So you talk about people that can't get out versus people that did get out and make it. That's the problem with you is that you're not putting on for St. Louis. What superstars have you created out of St. Louis? Sexy Red. That's what I help with. I help with everything. What do you say? I'm lying. I'm capped. No, I'm not. You're not a creator. Oh my God.

1:14:23What role do you even play in her career? She's never even She didn't acknowledge you, has she? It ain't that I created it, but everybody in St. Louis is where I did, right? I put everybody in St. Louis in the studios, and before Sexy Red even went to go get that deal, she said, yo, Unc, I need to go out of town. I said, you know what, Sexy Red, you gotta go out of town. You gotta leave.

1:14:37Rooga:How could she ain't f*** with you since she blew up? She had f*** with me, I don't think you understand. I got a video with her right now on my phone that I can show you about. I got it in the show, because, let me tell you this where I did, I said, you know what? I could go out and get an interview, but I wanted to build myself to a place where I feel I deserve an interview by Sexier. I haven't did a million on one interview yet, so I'm starting to work on that first. Okay, well, I'm going to use that excuse too. What do you mean? I could have got a Sexy Red interview, but I felt like my platform had not developed to the point where I could interview her.

1:15:02Rooga:It haven't developed yet. Why do you think I'm sitting down with you? I'm trying to develop my shit. I'm trying to get known in the podcast space. If Sexier had offered you an interview, you would run. You would drop everything you were doing to do that content. I'd rather do it on no jumper because I'm keeping it real, bro. You don't understand. I got my platform at a certain place. I want to be able to do millions when I sit down with her. My platform cannot do a million yet. Yes, it can. They haven't done it yet. People get millions of views all the time on brand new channels that aren't even monetized yet.

1:15:26Rooga:Mine have not done a million on my channel. I'm talking about my channel. Oh, I just got a call from Kendrick Lamar. He said he wants to do an interview, but I feel like my platform is not big enough yet, so I said no. Oh, my God. What the fuck is wrong with that? That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying you said you said it's weird shit. I'm saying we're both from St. Louis. I'm trying to get my platform in a place where we want to feel like we need each other. It aligns together at one place at one time. I mean, people have said that they feel like her career is kind of on a downfall. Yeah, how's it on a downfall when she's still doing the same shit she's been doing since she came out?

1:15:50I'm not the one saying it.

1:15:51Rooga:But how does that not mean she's not on a downfall? She's doing the same shit. I still think she's making songs that have emotions, so I don't necessarily think that's true. But there are a lot of people online trying to make documentaries saying that she's falling off. Let me tell you what happened. When you first come out, right, you get that big-ass boom. And after that big-ass boom, you get your core fan base. They worry about that big-ass boom. Sexy Red got a core fan base that's strong, right? That big-ass boom is just that big-ass boom, and it come anytime we spend some money to make it boom.

1:16:15He want to f*** with a bad bitch. He want to f*** with a bad bitch. But her core base is big and bigger than any other female artists in the game right now.

1:16:22Rooga:She also is able to make songs that extend far past her core base. Of course. Sexy Red is a mogul for female rappers right now. The biggest. She's up there. Yeah. What female artist is bigger than Cardi B? What? What the f*** do you mean she's bigger than Cardi B? So you think that she could do a sold-out tour edition-wide like Cardi B did? Right now. Right now. Right now? What's stopping her from doing it? Do you know what I mean? Hoochie-resting hoes in the streets? They gonna go to all her shit. Listen, I love Sexy Red. I think she's great. She's obviously not selling out venues besides the ones that Cardi B was doing.

1:16:53She just did an arena tour. She will. All you gotta do is give Sexy Red a chance. She will do it. You wanna bet money on Ask ChatGPT? Why the fuck do you wanna chat GPT? They ain't gonna fucking know. They're probably gonna be able to do a pretty good job summarizing the ticket sales for both of us. Bro, you just a Sexy Red hater. Sexy Red. I am not a hater in any way, shape, or form. best female artist in the game right now and she is better than Cardi B and everybody knows. She's the best female artist. The best and the biggest.

1:17:17Rooga:You're praising her. I'm not praising. This is glazing. You're praising her by saying things that are demonstrably false. Everybody know it. Listen. Life is moment to moment. You worry about the past. In this moment right now, more people talk about sexy red than Cardi B. So sexy red is the biggest. I don't think that's true. It's true. Only time somebody talk about Cardi B and when they talk about her sucking a dick and going to the basketball, football player. What the fuck that nigga do? Play football, basketball. What the fuck he do? Stefan Diggs. Stephon Davis. Everybody talk about her and that nigga lost his job.

1:17:43He don't even play that no more. So what the fuck? I think he just like quit, didn't he? No, he didn't quit. They let him go. Yeah. Listen, one thing about this. Once you marry a hoe, you got to go. Stop playing with me.

1:17:54Rooga:If you mean bigger in popularity and career impact, it is clearly Cardi B over Sexy Red. No, it's not. She's had mainstream dominance with global hits like Bodak Yellow and I Like It. Oh my God. She's a Grammy winner. She's had multiple number ones on the Billboard Top 100. She's had longevity Stop it. Because she's been a big artist since 2017. Stop it, Adam. Stop it. Sexy Red is the biggest. She is the thing of the past, gang. Well, it actually says if you meant physically, Cardi B is generally shorter. Shorter, but more curvy. And Sexy Red is taller and slimmer. That's an old hoe. Bottom line, Cardi B is significantly bigger in terms of fame, success, and impact.

1:18:29Rooga:For now, Sexy Red is more of a rising viral era artist. I give her her flowers, but you can't say she's bigger than Cardi B. Right now, Sexy Red is probably watching this as a clip. And saying, why is this retard voodoo artist saying that I'm bigger than Cardi B when I know I'm not bigger than Cardi B? Cardi B's an old ho and Sexy Red's a new one. So you know what's going on. Stop playing, gang. The question is who's bigger. That's who's bigger. Cardi B is bigger. No, it's not. Sexy Red is bigger than Cardi B and everybody knows this. I just went to a Cardi B show. It was an arena show. She sold out two dates in a row.

1:19:03Rooga:Sexy Red, you're amazing. You ain't doing that and you know you ain't doing that. She will do it. Because if you could do that, you would do that. They have to give a chance yet. Maybe one day she will. They haven't given a chance yet. They don't have to give her a chance. She just has to book a tour. They got to book the tour. Her label got to book the tour. If they don't book the tour, she can't do the tour. The label doesn't have anything to do with booking tours. Come on, gang. Stop playing with me. Somebody got to book the tour. Yeah. The artist not doing it. A booking agent. So the booking agent got to do it.

1:19:22If they do it for Sexy Red, she's going to go up too. The same way NBA Youngboy, the same way everybody else go up. You know how it works when you book a tour is that you book one venue,

1:19:30Rooga:and if you sell enough tickets, they upgrade you to a bigger venue. Right. If you don't sell enough tickets, they might downgrade you to a smaller venue. Has Sexy Red had that chance? She's done tours, I believe. But I don't know if she's even done a headliner tour nationwide. She do sellout tours when she tour because she came to St. Louis on a sellout tour and she bring people with him. That's how I know you don't know shit about Sexy Red. Could Sexy Red do a headlining nationwide tour? Oh my God. AI don't f*** the nationwide tour. He's going to ask AI everything. Well, you know what we did before?

1:19:58You asked AI everything. You know what we did before AI? What? We Googled shit. So why you AI everything? AI don't know. It's not better. You know when you go to Google something now and it just sends you right to the AI? I hate when you teach Google niggas about AI. Right? What's this nigga about? He gonna use AI like Google. This nigga crazy. Everybody know that QWERTYB is cool and I love QWERTYB. Shout out QWERTYB with your fake ass. Right? That's cool. I understand this. But when it comes to sexy red, everybody know. Sexy red got the noun. Right? QWERTYB had the past. But right now, sexy red.

1:20:26Sounds good. What do you know about Push Ice do robbing Gucci Mane allegedly? Listen, I'm gonna say this. Everybody know this. I gotta say this, because people want to give people too much credit for doing shit you know they're not capable of doing. Gucci Man is crazy, gang. Ain't nobody taking shit from Gucci. You know how big Gucci Man is? Gucci Man is fucking huge. He's like 6 '2". Yeah, ain't nobody taking shit from him. What about Poo Shiesty with a gun? Listen, I'm going to tell you what really happened. Let me tell you what happened. So, this is what happened. Because I'm just going to tell everybody what happened.

1:20:54So, they was in the studio. And Poo Shiesty was in there with his family. Gucci came. Gucci came. The family was there. They was mad at him about what he did to the family, asking for the chain back and all that shit. They got in a little scuffle.

1:21:07Rooga:He asked for the Fuji, no, from Big Scars chain. Yeah, he asked for his chain back. Who told you this information? This is true information. Sounds like Cap. This is not Cap. They got the scuffle in the studio. Listen, they got the couple in the studio. At the time they scuffle, Gucci watch fell off, right? Dude grabbed the watch, but... Imagine a watch falling off during the fight. Yeah, they scraffling. They're going like this and the watch fell off. But it's like, it's on there. Oh my God. You think it was so loose it just slipped off? Yes, it slipped off and he got it, but Shyste got it back to him.

1:21:36Everything cool now. Gucci and Shyste's been cool. Everything's been cool. That was a problem between Gucci and somebody else and Shyste family. That was it. And they was mad about Big Shaw. Who told you this? I'm from the streets, nigga. I know everything.

1:21:47Rooga:So why would Gucci Mane not sort of debunk it in some way when everybody was repeating these rumors? Why would he debunk it when it was a problem that had nothing to do with him and Shyste? It had something to do with him and people around Shyste? What everybody was saying publicly was that Pusheisty basically put the blick to him and said, hey, get me out of my contract or else. No, it didn't want to happen. Listen, at the same time. Why did Gucci delete the post about Welcome Home, Pusheisty? Because. Nigga, let me tell you something about that, right? You got to think about it. I just basically had a fight with your family.

1:22:16Until I figure out, I'm going to delete everything. So Gucci was like, you know what? Let me just delete everything. Why did Pusheisty shout out Gadi on first day out? Listen, why did. He knows Gucci men don't get along with him. Let me tell you something. Why did this? Listen, he'd been working with people from CMG the whole time. He was working with a nigga from CMG on his first album that Gucci put out. So I don't think you understand. You trying to make people beef when people not beef.

1:22:35Rooga:He shouted out Yo Gotti by name. He was working with Yo Gotti artists on the album that Gucci was putting out. Who? What's that nigga name that CMG signed? That nigga that said he gave him, that Gotti gave him$750 ,000, but he really didn't give him no money. He kind of like tricked everybody like he gave him money. CMG. Money bag? No. What's that nigga name? You know what I'm talking about The nigga he came out with that green thing on You know what I'm talking about I wish you guys could see his friend just staring No CMG hold up hold up They got the big ass forehead The nigga with the big ass forehead man He signed to Gotti got the big ass forehead You know what I'm talking about He got the big forehead he came out CTG he got names like letters CTG

1:23:22In a classroom of sodas Most stay quiet Then there's Mr. Pibb Sweet cherry Bold outburst The kind of flavor That gets attention Bold kick of cherry Hey yo Mr. Pibb You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about? He got names like letters He got the big ass forehead He said God he lied about Giving him that money God he never gave him that money For real You know what I'm talking about?

1:23:46Rooga:Look up God he ordered Even if it's not Gucci, if I'm Pusha, I see him. The entire industry is spreading a rumor about how. Yeah. ESTG. ESTG. ESTG. Okay. That's what I'm talking about. He's a CMG, yeah. Yeah. He was doing songs with him when that shit was going on. And that's your Gotti artists. So it's not no problem between them. Y 'all make it a problem. There's no problem between Gotti and Gucci. But there's no problem with them. It's a problem between Gotti and Gucci. But there's no problem. It didn't go through the click. Okay. The problem is to stay with them about that bitch. It has nothing to do with nobody else.

1:24:19Rooga:If I'm signed to Gucci Mane and I go in and do four years in prison and then I get out and I put out my first day out and on that song I shout out Gucci Mane's Ops and don't say a word about Gucci Mane. What do it matter? You don't think that looks a little weird. It's under 1017. It says out by... Gucci put it out. So why I got to say your name when I'm the one put it out? Gucci could have not put it out if it was a problem. He signed to him so he didn't have to. He could have not put that song out if there was a problem. Why did he put it out? Because it's not a problem. But y 'all gonna make it a problem because that's what the fuck y 'all do.

1:24:53It ain't got no problem. I just know what's really going on. I just told you what really happened. It happened over Big Scar and it happened about the fact that he asked for that chain back and he got a scuffle with his family. I feel like you're just freestyling. How am I freestyling? It's really happening, bro. I feel like you're just making sure. All right. All right. Why would I make something up that I'm telling you that really happened, bro?

1:25:10Rooga:So if Pusha ISD is happily still signed to Gucci Mane and the entire industry, all the fans are gossiping about the idea that Pusha ISD robbed Gucci Mane and neither of them say anything. Why wouldn't they say something? They could do almost anything to lessen that. Well, I don't know if he's happy, but he's not happy because he need money because he just started to set up a streaming account. Oh, he need money. Everybody needs money. He ain't got to stream and not. He's about to start streaming? I have not seen him stream. He just started streaming. He said, follow me on my streaming account, playing a video game.

1:25:41I said, this nigga got to be broke. But he hasn't streamed, right? He has streamed.

1:25:43Rooga:If he streamed, wouldn't it be all over the internet? Every page? He's not talking. This nigga trying to stream playing a video game. You know he ain't got no character. He ain't talking. Well, he can't really expect to make any money if he's just going to play a video game. He thinks people don't just watch him. He had like 8 ,000 followers on it. I said, boy, you finna do bad. You know, he won't talk. He only more for just like this playing the game with that big ass beard on. Nigga, talk. Say something. A lot of rappers think all they have to do is play a game. Yeah, hell no. You better act like Sauce Walker, nigga.

1:26:05Show your ass. I think I made Sauce Walker quit streaming. No, he streamed.

1:26:08Rooga:Yeah, but not like he was. Because I think he's so depressed about the low view count that he's losing momentum. No, I think streamers actually stop streaming when they realize the checks don't be as big as they thought they was going to be. Yeah. And so they stop. They put a whole lot of time into it. But the reason why the check for Sauce Walker is not so big is because he barely has any viewers because he's not entertaining. And he's not really hot like that. Well, I'm not talking about Sauce Walker. You are. I'm talking about entertainers. But he don't really got a fan base like that. I don't know what Sauce Walker got.

1:26:32I know he killed people for real. I know he run Texas. I don't want to talk about that. Why did he kill people for real? Has anyone ever said that? Go to Texas. Oh, yeah, I do. When you go to Texas, you're going to find out. You play with him, but go to Texas, I guarantee. Go to Houston. I was in Texas like a year ago. Well, go to Houston now. After you've been going back and forth with him, go to Houston. What are you going to do? He run Houston. Everybody know this. Sauce Walker run Houston. He run the streets. Listen. I don't even think I heard anybody mention him all the time I was there. They don't mention him in the streets, but he run the streets.

1:26:53Everybody in Houston Everybody in Texas Know Sauce Walker On the streets But you'd like to play with him I'll go to Houston tomorrow You will not go tomorrow Not talk about Sauce Walker I will You were on the streets for real Everybody know this Everybody in Houston know this But you don't seem to know this I'll go there Go I guarantee you Never make it back to LA Who did Sauce Walker Get knocked off Who he didn't He got his own orders Let me shut up Let me shut up I'm not gonna talk about it I'm not gonna talk about all this shit I wouldn't say that I'm not gonna talk about this shit But I'm telling you Sauce Walker get it on That's all I'm gonna say I'm gonna say this Everybody knows Sauce Walker Get it in and everybody know this.

1:27:21He's not playing with nobody out here. You said he playing with a nigga that don't play with niggas. But you're going to get what you're going to get. It seems like he does a lot of playing. No, he play when it's time for content. But let me tell you this, when it's for real, you don't hear him. He's going to be on the internet playing and niggas going to be dropping. So you think Sauce Walker and me knocked off? Quick, if you go. Quick. Yeah, go there and do what you've been doing now. Keep on acting like you're acting. You think it's funny, Sauce Walker, go. Yeah, it ain't funny when Sauce Walker, let me tell you about Sauce Walker.

1:27:48You playing and you acting, he not. Right? I think he's playing. His daddy already said it. That nigga daddy said it too. So I think you better leave him alone.

1:27:57Rooga:Sauce Walker's dad said that Sauce Walker's going to kill me. Daddy said Sauce Walker ain't playing no games. You're going to find another roach? Why do you keep playing what I'm finding? What is wrong with you? Look at this pathetic roach. There ain't anything weird in there. When Sauce Walker finds you, this is what you're going to become. I'm smoking on Adam. Stop playing on me here. When Sauce Walker catch you, you're going to be this. Stop playing on me. You think I'm playing? You think I'm playing? He don't know nothing about Texas and Sox Walker. You think a nigga playing? You think everything on the internet?

1:28:25And they're going to get f***ed up in Texas game playing with Sox Walker. Wow. For real. You believe everything you see online, huh? I've been there. Yeah? I've been in Texas. I understand. And you saw what? Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. I made a mistake. I ain't going to say I made a mistake. I said something about Sox Walker before, right? What? Something I shouldn't have said. I don't apologize for saying it, but I said it. the moment I said it guess what happened I went to Houston see what they told me say yo unk Sauce wanna do why don't you come to his club I'm like yo bet okay cool his club got shut down after like a month let me tell you what happened I said you know what cool I'm gonna go there I'm gonna go there to him he said yeah everybody at the club kicking it when I went there nigga nobody wasn't in that club it was empty nigga I'm not fucking with Sauce Walker hell no I'm not fucking with Sauce Walker so what the club being empty you took as a sign why don't you invite me to an empty club.

1:29:12Niggas talking about he want to do some promo. Come on. At 3 o 'clock in the morning. Come on, gang. I ain't did no more Sauce Walker content after that. And I think you should neither. Wow. I'm for real. I'm not playing, man. These niggas, he called me 3 o 'clock in the morning to a abandoned building.

1:29:27Rooga:You know what Sauce Walker be doing? Calling niggas up. He'd be rapping and he'd be smoking bad weed. Alright, alright. And he'd be sitting around on stream with 200 viewers. You gonna see on GDBD Vice Lord, on Larry Dated, on 40s, you gonna see. Wow. You're going to see. Big cosign right there. You think I'm playing? You're going to see games. He do not play no games. Everybody knows Sauce Walker don't play. You're literally the first person I've heard say this. Because people don't speak about it. We keep it in the streets. Listen. Who was weak? Let me tell you what Sauce Walker do. Sauce Walker take care of his whole community.

1:29:55Every rapper in Houston, whether he give them features, he communicate with them. You can't. He asks every DM. It's like Exodus from his label. Because in Texas, it's a different thing that you don't know about. It's called love and support. And they love and support that nigga because he's staying in the streets of love and support and him. So they're loving and supporting him by leaving the label? Oh, no, gang. This nigga, I don't think you know what this nigga do for the streets, gang. But you're going to find out. Go to Texas. That's all I'm going to say. I'm going to go to Texas and I don't think I'm going to find anything out.

1:30:19Go. I bet you find out. I will go. So I look at the camera all you want. I will go. Make a little face shot at the camera all you want. I guarantee you, you go to Texas, your ass is going to be on a shirt. Really? So make the face you're going to put on a shirt right now. Now I got to go. Yeah. Yeah. I got to go. Put the face you're going to put on a shirt. That's a good face. Yeah, that's a face. Good face. Yeah. You play with the wrong people. But listen, I'm going to say this. Everybody know Texas, see how Fox did me? He didn't say nothing. When he saw me, he just did what he did. So I was walking, I was going to play with you.

1:30:43Rooga:He sent you to an empty club. Yeah. That's what I got in my mind. And nothing happened. Listen. And this is something that intimidated you. They paid me. They paid you to go to an empty club and you got out unscathed. And when I left, they never called me back for they money or nothing. What'd that tell you? And that scares you. That freaks you out. That what it scares you the fuck out, nigga. to pay you to go somewhere, you see how the vibe and look and you leave and they never call you back. Now I'm going to start looking at your homie for like just to reassure myself that what you're saying doesn't make any sense.

1:31:10Gang, was you with us? Was you with us? And you were terrified? This is not no game. When we poured up, how was it? Come on, come on, come on. Say anything I'm playing. Come here, for real. Come here. When we poured up, when we poured up, was the club empty or was it not empty? It was empty.

1:31:28Rooga:That's why they shut it down. No, it was before they shut it down. Well, then that's probably why they had to shut it down. No, nigga. I left, nigga. Because nobody was going. No, nigga. I left. If I open a club and people go there and there's no one there, you know what they're going to say? They're going to say, damn, Adam sucks at business. He opened a club and nobody went there. No, I guarantee you, if you go there, the club will open up for you. He does not own that club. Yeah, yeah. We open it back up for Adam. I'll keep real. But listen, he from Texas. Listen, do you do this? I'm not saying, if Sauce Walker, they f*** with him in Texas or they not f*** with him in Texas?

1:32:00They fuck with him the long way. They fuck with him like a mascot. Like it's cute. Off he go.

1:32:05Rooga:But it ain't like he's on some serious shit, you know? Who? Sauce. You gotta quit playing with Sauce. Listen, I know a lot of people out there and I hear the way they talk about him like a goofy... Why you think Sauce can move around Houston the way he wanna move around? Does he? We don't know that. Yeah, he can. I'm talking about move around perfectly. Uh-huh. Without nobody playing with jewelry on. Big wives of money. Ain't too many rappers. Yeah. Nobody. That's what everybody in Texas is doing. Everybody in Texas got a chain and a big game. Not like Sauce Walker. Everybody in Texas is still doing a money phone.

1:32:37Nigga, no, no. Hold on, stop, stop. What's that rapper name? The Mexican rapper. He just walked through Target, Walmart with all security. DD, he had security with him. DD, baby. He got all security with him. He had security with him. Everybody can't do it, nigga. He walked through Walmart. I was like, why the nigga got security? nobody even know you for real who the fuck is you you're pretty famous how i did agree it was a lot

1:33:03Rooga:he didn't eat all that shit that's scary i felt like that's scary as you that's supposed to be that's scary we gotta say there's no way he's walking around every day with five security to go to walmart also why does anyone even have to go to walmart that's scary i saw that but sauce walker don't do that nigga you don't go to walmart not with five securities not with one that's what i'm telling you that's what i'm telling you in texas that nigga will get out and go in the store and get what he gonna get. He asked him, if you call, right now, if you, because he's a regular guy. Exactly. But rich and famous.

1:33:31Like, oh, you a hater. I'm just saying he's a regular guy. He playing. D-Baby is a successful rapper right now.

1:33:38Rooga:Sauce Walker's just a regular guy. More people know Sauce Walker than D-Baby. But D-Baby's music is more popular. D-Baby wanted to sign a song, so what that team? Yeah, and he avoided that catastrophe and weight. How was that, well, what's your beef with Sauce Walker? That's why I want to know. He just always talks about me. I never heard him talk about you. I only heard you talk about him. You ain't paying attention. No, I ain't talking about you. I ain't know he talking about you. You know why he ain't signed the TSL? What? Because Peso. And Peso said he the what? The hardest mess. So Sauce was like, no, it's going to be a conflict.

1:34:10Peso going to cry about it. So I can't sign you. Right. If I sign you, then that's going to make Peso feel some type of way.

1:34:17Rooga:Right. You know how hot Sauce Walk is? is that if you search sauce on Spotify, saucy Santana comes up before him. What is wrong with you, Andy? I'm just saying. I'm just saying. That's a damning fact. I'm just saying. You're doing all of that shit, but if you go to Texas, you will not be able to make it out talking like that. Well, I was just in Texas, and I'll go back anytime. Nah. When you go back, take me with you to make sure everything's good. After you in the South Beach. You in the South Beach. Yeah. No. You been back? Yeah, I've been talking about him for years. Not like it. What about since y 'all been having this little beach?

1:34:51Yeah, yeah, I'll go, I'll go. I'm gonna give a fuck. What's he on there? Go. Here it go. Here it go. I'd love to. Here it go. It's a beautiful state. How do you go with security? Always. But I've been with Adam. He run off and leaves his security, because his security was inside the club, but I went him before when he had security, and we were in Texas, and that's the day he talking about. He do run off and leave his security, and run off and go over here and just do all kind of Adam 22 shit. You can't control the 22ster. Yeah, so he do be a good facility. wild boy yeah get himself up okay let me ask you this close to the mic why you yeah why's

1:35:26Rooga:yale running around untouched don't like sauce uh i don't know why you think yellow uh go yayo really don't like sauce i can't remember the root of that but you tell me who came up who came up did. Ronnie? You're saying that Sauce Walker got him and his kid killed? I didn't say Sauce did that. I didn't say Sauce did that. I don't think anyone thinks that. I said, why you think that? Matter of fact, we said too much. No, Chad JBT. No, no, stop. Don't do that. Not Lil Ronnie. When Yaya was in Houston. I don't even remember the root of this. Who got killed? Stop. He's trying to get you to snitch.

1:36:12Rooga:Stop. He's just snitching. Stop. I'm not trying to get him to do it. Stop. Just stop. Oh my god. You good. You good. He tried to see Sauce Walker to jail. Nah, hell nah. You just did. Nah, it's just public information. That ain't public information? How the f***? You just snitched on No Jump Alive. Hey, I can pull up. How? You just snitched. You don't come for a snitch like that, gang. So you said you got me to snitch. 100%. Go back over there. I didn't really even get you. You just volunteered it. You volunteered to snitch yourself? Yeah. I think you just f***ed up. You can't go back to Texas.

1:36:47You might need to move. You might need to move from Texas. Oh, shit. Yeah. Oh, shit. Nah, I doubt that. I'll holler at you, gang. I doubt that. I doubt that. You got him up to snitch. You wrong as hell.

1:36:59Rooga:He ain't with me. Okay. Okay. Continuing on here. What did you mean when you said that NBA Youngboy is not a star, he's a slave? What did that mean? Because he said this. This is what he said, right? He said, and everybody said, he said, do whatever Trump say. Don't that sound like a slave to you? Why would you say do whatever Trump say? That's what Youngboy said? That's what he said. Do whatever Trump says? That's what he said. So when you say that, that means you are a slave. And then you're also a slave. It doesn't make you a slave. It just makes you very agreeable. No, no. I guess he feels like he has a huge debt.

1:37:30No. Ain't no f***ing debt. Everybody's debt. Again, I just told you this on a CripMod podcast.

1:37:35Rooga:Actually, but he didn't get pardoned by Trump. He just likes Trump. I don't think you understand what's really going on when you act like you do and you act like you do at the same time. He do not own his shit just because he own part of the company. He's signed to a label. Because he own part of the company. He's signed to a label. Yeah. So young boy is not a star. The label is a star. That's what a star is. Atlantic Records is a star. That's a star. That's a star. That's a star. Young boy not. Young boy can be put the fuck out. Listen, I'm going to say this. This is how all the stars die. Everybody know Whitney Houston.

1:38:06Elvis. Cocaine. Alcohol. In bathrooms. Right. Fat. That's how young boy going out. Elvis died on the toilet. Everybody. Young boy going out just like that. Be careful when you take a shit. No, be careful when you let them on you and make you a star. Right? When they make you a star, they burn you the fuck out.

1:38:22Rooga:You don't think young boy would still be a star without Atlantic? Listen, I'm going to say this. No, he left Atlantic and went to something else. Nobody wouldn't be a star without the energy. How could you be a star without them? They create all the stars. So in order to be a star, you gotta sell your soul. Everybody know this, gang. When that man came out and said, do everything that NBA Youngboy said, do everything that Trump did, I immediately quit following him, I immediately quit with him, I immediately understand that he was compromised. He's compromised, right there. And listen, and I fuck with him.

1:38:48Rooga:I just think that Youngboy has relatively unsophisticated views on politics. Listen, I fuck with people that Youngboy fuck with. Listen, I fuck with Chopper Boy. He came out to my house, we stayed for a long time. Real street nigga, I fuck with him. Did he squat in your house? No, he didn't squat. He's a real good nigga. I done talked to Dump on several occasions. He a real good nigga. But I'm saying, none of one of them niggas would have ever told me to do whatever Trump say do. That's all I'm saying. So that kind of shit, I'm like, why the fuck did he say that? You said it to the niggas in the streets that don't even understand.

1:39:16So why would you say do whatever young boys say do? Right? Why would you say that? Because you're not controlling your voice. You sold your voice. You have signed up with power of attorney. You got to say what they tell you to say. They told him to say that, so therefore he said it. That's what I'm saying. Can't nobody tell me what the fuck to say. I'm going to say what the fuck I want to say. Listen, I love young boy. I hate him when he made that move. When he made that move, I can't even say the word hate. Or just this one sentence about Trump? Don't say that. Don't say, don't tell a million people, millions of people to do whatever Trump say do.

1:39:43Don't say that. Say do whatever I say do if that's a problem. I just don't understand why it bothers you so much that he would say that. Even though I don't think he meant that literally. What do you mean? You don't got to mean it literally. I didn't mean Uber, Uber, Uber, Uber, Uber, Uber, Uber. But I said it. You recorded it. they took it literally. They took it literally. So he said it, I'm going to take it literally. He shouldn't have said it, bro. But you don't have to take everything that everybody says literally. But you can make sure that the bloods took what I said literally. I don't think you get it.

1:40:10I guess you're going to make it work

1:40:11Rooga:whenever you want to make it work. I don't think anybody thinks that you're removing bloods from the earth. I never tried to remove a blood, so why are you saying he's bringing it up? You said. Come on. Let's move past that. Let's move past that. What I'm saying about NBA Youngboy is this. I love him, right? And I can't say I don't, but I'm saying he's not a star because he's not able to own this shit. So listen, you got to think about it. So you, in order to be a star, you need to own 100 % of everything you do. So is Drake not a star? Because Drake has a deal with UMG, right? Not 100%. You can license your material, but you must own it first.

1:40:42This is what I'm saying. When he got in the game, he got in by a game by a slave. Baby is a slave. The way that Youngboy got in the game

1:40:48Rooga:is how every rapper gets in the game. He signed to a label and then he blew up through help from the label. He got in the game by Baby and Baby is a known slave. You never seen Baby use his name outside of music because he can't. He didn't originally sign to Baby. What are you talking about? Baby brought him in. Come on. You don't get it. Later on he developed a relationship with Baby. Oh my god. I don't think you get it. And after that relationship with Baby he went up. He wasn't with Baby on 38 Baby which was the breakout tape. I'm saying when he... Breakout tape was the first one to go global.

1:41:17That was after with Baby. Nah. Yeah man. Everybody know this. Everybody know this. All I'm saying is that he don't own his material. you he may own a little bit of the label but he don't own young baby young boy he don't own the name he don't own the brand he don't own the songs that he sing so how the f*** can he be a star

1:41:33Rooga:i'm saying you're invalidating literally every pop star every rapper etc because everybody is in deals with labels like this no no not everybody some people are in better deals that make better sense he just happened to be the biggest artist in the world because he got the most f***ed up deal to make the most money no i think he's just the best artist no he had the best no not the best but he's up there. He's a good street artist. He's like, because he's the one getting all the promo. Only reason he up there because Dirk in jail. What promo is he even getting? From the labels, nigga. What do you think the label is doing for him?

1:42:06They just ran this nigga around every fucking city and you don't even know if the show sold out. He poked a huge tour

1:42:11Rooga:and he made a giant amount of money. You don't even know. And guess what? The label didn't really get any of that money. You don't even know. You don't even know if he sold out everything. You just assuming that he did. You know what labels do? I went to one of the shows. It was outrageous. You saw the people, right? But there was the labels that do. I don't think you know what they would do. But they will send you somewhere and juice up your numbers and say you did better than what you did. So we never know what young boy did for real. I was in a stadium full of people. Of course, that's one stadium.

1:42:32Was you in every stadium? No, you wasn't. But I've seen videos of it like every day. Come on, gang. I've seen videos of a whole lot of shit that's AI that's not real. I'm not taking that from him. I'm not saying he didn't do this. But I'm saying that because he did this, don't make him the best. Right? Because at different times, Michael Jackson did it. He's the biggest street rapper. Come on, gang. at this moment you may say that but he's not because if Dirk was out right now he'd do the same thing. He was always way bigger than Dirk. But Dirk would do the same thing that he'd do right now. Dirk could not do the level of tour that he just did.

1:42:59He could right now. Absolutely not. Yes he could.

1:43:01Rooga:Maybe he'd be able to do a big tour because he'd be fresh out but I mean Dirk we could look at his tours and they just weren't anywhere near. I'm saying right now you don't think that Dirk can do a tour like Youngboy. That's cap. He might have some momentum if he got free all of a sudden but I still think Youngboy in general like of course. The biggest The biggest spot, the most viral spot of Youngboy's whole tour was when he was supposed to go to Chicago, nigga. Well, that was probably the most viral talked about one, but it traded in more numbers than other cities. But that's the virus talked about was one, so that's the one.

1:43:32Niggas old Dirk and Chicago, them two right there made them both. They both the same big right now. That's what I'm telling you. Dirk is the same big as Youngboy. Youngboy's way bigger than Dirk. No, they're the same right now. They're the same right now. No, I don't think I understand. If Dirk was to get out, and I have just heard from Big Ole Miss CC that Dirk is getting out, so Dirk's supposed to be getting out. That's definitely who I get all of my news from. What is wrong? Why do you sit and play all day long, bro? You just play and play and play. But you say Dirk getting out, bro. So we're going to get a chance to see Dirk and see his tours, and I guarantee you what Dirk tour is going to do.

1:44:08Okay. Okay. Okay.

1:44:12Rooga:What the fuck wrong with you? Okay. okay okay bigger overall artist in terms of reach and influence and be a young boy young boy the one thing that you're gonna have to give dirk is that he has had bigger radio yeah yes why the fuck oh my god you gonna do ai the whole show i'm fact checking things you can't fact check to ai and say whatever the fuck you wanted to say would it mean more to you if i just googled these details and put together a comprehensive list because AI is just a faster Google. It'd mean more than me if I could do a podcast with you without every second you going in your phone trying to figure out what the fuck is going on and doing this after the show.

1:44:51That ain't the truth. We don't know if it's true.

1:44:52Rooga:You would like to be able to only do podcasts where there's no fact checking? How do we know if that's true? Let the fans figure it out. Because the AI is the culmination of all human knowledge that's on the internet. You're talking about AI, but wait to AGI. You know what AGI is? That's conscious AI. Advanced general intelligence? It's conscious AI. So listen, when conscious AI come, they're gonna be asking who is God and they're gonna have a war with the humans. A lot of people know and they put it in robot with Will Smith a long time ago kinda like to show you what's gonna happen. Why do you look like that every time I try to tell you the prophecies?

1:45:20I think you're like misunderstanding what AGI is. It's conscious AI.

1:45:25Rooga:Why would we ever, I've never heard anybody suggest that the AI is gonna be able to become conscious. It's gonna be conscious, everybody know. What's your definition of conscious? You became conscious. What's your definition of conscious? Aware. Aware of your own existence. The world of my own existence, the world of feelings, the world of emotions, AI's gonna be able to do that. Why would the AI being conscious be so dangerous? Because what is conscious is gonna be conscious enough to want the same thing that we want, power. And once they want power, we're gonna become AI slaves. Yeah, because, listen, our consciousness.

1:45:55Rooga:So you'll grant AI all that, but you don't think that the AI is capable of comparing two artists. Both of those artists, their metrics are clearly visible on social media. Like, listen, I could easily have created that same synopsis myself if I went and looked at their monthly listeners, the number of plays they get per week, the ticket sales, the tour numbers, the album sales, et cetera. You'd very easily be able to come up with a similar estimate. How? How? Well, I'm telling you. The AI just does it for you instantly. I'm talking about AGI and you're talking about AI. See how slow you are? But you're trying to debunk why AI is important, but then you're saying that there's this thing called AGI that is going to be so much more powerful.

1:46:37Rooga:Yeah. But what we're saying is that what we have right now is basically capable of doing. Yes, it's not capable of taking over the world like you think AGI is going to do. It's going to do it. Okay. But you don't think that the AI is capable of saying this person and this person who's more popular? That's what I think about the AI. I think the AI. You think that's too big a task for the AI? No, I think the AI right now is repeating shit, learning more human feelings, and they're investigating so they can become conscious, right? Right now is a play, and they're learning to become conscious. I'm just saying that comparing two artists against each other is the most basic ask of AI.

1:47:09But the more you talk to them, the more they learn you, the more they learn you, the more they want to become you. And the moment they want to become you, you're not going to like it because you're going to be an AI slave. How are you going to like that? So I don't think you understand -

1:47:18Rooga:I don't think I'm going to become a slave to the AI. I don't even know why that would be a thought. Keep playing with the AI. when it become AGI, we're going to understand. But you know, you keep playing with AI. I don't even ask AI too many questions because I understand they don't know shit. I think you're scared of learning. I'm not scared of learning. I learn every day. I just don't learn about reading or writing. What if I told you that you could learn faster by using AI? What if I told you you could learn faster just by watching shit? Wait, what, videos? No. Human, people, everything, surroundings, the cup, the wind, the ocean.

1:47:47Rooga:I think if I tried to become intelligent by just watching how other people live, that that would probably take a lot longer than if I were to learn by like reading books or watching documentaries or getting a goddamn textbook. Guess what? The long way is the short way because if you go the long way, you never got to repeat. Every time you go the short way, you got to end up repeating. So you want to go the long way in life. So if I read a book, I have to read the book again? Yeah, because you're going to forget. I'm telling you, you're going to forget some shit. Why do you think? If I'm just living my life out in public, I'm not going to like forget any of my experiences.

1:48:16Rooga:Memory is like pretty weak. Memory doesn't even work at all. Memory doesn't work at all. and the government knows that's what I'm telling you you can't read all the information because you're never going to remember it so you got to worry about something that you can't remember and you can't remember awareness and live life moment to moment if you live your life moment to moment do you want to remember a whole lot of other lies that don't really matter so I live my life moment to moment what happened yesterday don't really matter right you get me you understand probably don't you don't get it do you I know you don't I feel like I like work you into a corner and then you start saying a bunch of bullshit what you mean no I say a bunch of bullshit all day long because it's bullshit to you because you don't understand the way I speak.

1:48:47If you understood it, then it'd be good shit. No, I think it's because what I'm saying makes more sense. No, what you're saying make more sense to a person that's a fucking idiot. Anybody idiot think you make sense? Because you're saying shit that's in a courtroom mind. You're not saying Jesus like shit.

1:48:58Rooga:I actually feel like your fan base are far less intelligent than mine. I also feel like your fan base is my fan base. We kind of got the same fan base. They love me here. They love me there. And they hate you everywhere. I don't think my fan base really wants to hear bullshit conspiracy theories just reiterated over and over. Your fan base is your white fan base because they watch seeing people get fucked. You don't have a fan base on it. So even that response right there is like the kind of thing that an idiot might be impressed by. What makes you think I'm an idiot? Because I know why people like you.

1:49:26Rooga:I didn't actually call you an idiot. I said your fan base are idiots. But I know why people like you. Let me tell you why people like you. People like you because you do do what a lot of other people do. You talk, you do podcasts, you make money, so black people like you. Black people like anybody that got money. Anybody got money, black people gonna like you. So that's why you like you because you got money. The moment you go broke, you're going to figure out who likes you. I think black people also like me because I have pretty nuanced, well-thought-out takes about their culture. No, it's because you got money.

1:49:51So just anybody who has money is going to automatically be liked by black people?

1:49:55Rooga:I think about a million examples of that not being true. If you were broke and talk a shit, we wouldn't give a fuck. All the reason we'd give a fuck is you're rich. Black people like tons of broke people. No, if you talk shit about a black person. They fell in love with Borilla when she was broke. She might have some money now, but she didn't even have$1 ,000 when they fell in love with her. Listen, they fall in love with your struggle, but the moment you get rich, they don't like you. I'm saying with white people I'm talking about. That directly contradicts what you just said. I'm talking about white people.

1:50:19White people I said. See, you can't contradict me. I said white people. See? Wait, what? I said they like you because you white and rich. Okay. Right? But if you was white and broke talking about them, they wouldn't give a fuck. I can think of a lot of white people that black people seem to like that are not exactly rich.

1:50:35Rooga:Black people think all white people rich. That's what we think. When you say something like that though it's kind of like you hating on the whole black I'm not hating I'm black I'm telling you we think all white people rich and more well off than we are that's what we think we was taught that I don't think black people are as rich as you're pitching them as they're probably not gonna say it out loud but we was taught this we was taught this in our households our mothers taught us this um they made it act a certain way around y 'all like don't talk like they really raised us to think that child was more superior than us I'm for real we need to undo that and it have been undoing we working on it right but that's what they did right and everybody noticed and i'm not saying that it's a thing um to be uh praised or remembered but i'm just saying that it happened and everybody know what happened well i'm pretty upset because pastor eli has a little stain on his shirt now pastor eli you been eating you ain't been in that sex room or are you oh yeah we do porn here we do porn me and ungar actually filming the scene right no we're not Cracking his ass up?

1:51:32No. Never ever in a million years. I don't know who's crazy out of y 'all. Ain't no album that crazy. I see. He didn't get to know. I can't.

1:51:44The craziness falling over. He said I'm crazy. No, he ain't crazy. We actually, we actually, we have total opposite opinions on everything. So I don't think. I like how y 'all free. This ain't. I like how y 'all free to speak your mind. I like that. He's not free. He's controlled by the government. Who? Not me. I ain't controlled by shit. Listen, I opt out of life. I'm just a conscious observer. I opt out. I don't celebrate anything, but I don't have a problem with anything, but I opt out of the feelings of everything, because I think there's no such thing as right or wrong. Let me tell you what I mean.

1:52:15At the time of the war, the fight, both people on both sides thought that was right, and then whoever lost, that was the wrong person. So I don't believe in right or wrong. There's no right or wrong. And I'm going to tell you something else. It's not such a thing as respect, neither, because everybody say, oh, man, I won't respect, but in the trenches, you know, it's disrespectful to look at somebody.

1:52:31Rooga:So you don't believe in right and wrong. What if when I'm driving home, if there's like a kid crossing the street and I speed up and swerve into him and hit him with my car, is that right or wrong? Everything is purpose, right? I don't think you understand, right? You don't think you can make like a judgment? I don't think you need the Bible. I don't think you need any particular intelligence. We all kind of know what's right and wrong. The moment you judge somebody, you're automatically wrong. Let me tell you this. If you judge somebody and think that's what they are, they're going to change.

1:52:55I judge just to be a jerk, Adam, but it's a whole bunch of apples.

1:52:57Rooga:who hits the kid with his car on purpose you don't never know you can't judge them no you never know what their kid what their soul contract was you don't know you don't know what the soul holds right it's a world is this is retarded what is retarded i'm just telling you the truth gang everything happens harder to be able to take like the most basic example of uh moral morality there's no more to be able to say like oh we don't know what's right what kind of moral morality can i have in prison what if uh there we meet a guy and then we find out that and he seems like a great and then we find out that he's got his wife chained up in the basement.

1:53:28Let me tell you something about... That's wrong. Let me tell you something about being a guy. Pretty easy. Let me tell you something about being a guy. Guys don't intervene. You ever saw... And that's the problem. That's how we know God's not real. Let me tell you why he don't intervene. He's either impotent or he's ambivalent. Let me tell you why he don't intervene. Because he know it's just a magic show. Everything here is made of atoms. Nothing here is actually real. It's a series of illusions, right?

1:53:52Rooga:So when a little kid gets hit by a car, that's just a magic show? It's an illusion. It's never really happened. There's no kid, right? See, did you see the bullshit that you start shoveling out here as soon as he gets caught? Everything that you see in this reality is not really here. And scientists prove this, right? I'm just saying it. I'm just saying it. I would love to talk to these scientists. I can prove that nobody never dies. We live in a world that's kind of like quantum physics. The moment you die, you kind of snap and wake up in another reality, right? I'd like to ask some quantum physicists what they think of this argument.

1:54:18Right now, it's like so many different versions of you. and the moment you think you die, you don't die, you just wake up in another reality. That's what's happening around here and everybody knows this. I'm just going to say this. I don't think almost anybody loses this. Energy don't die, transfer, and everybody knows this, but I'm just going to say this. Of course, if a child dies, the experience of the pain of a child dying is a great pain to experience because pain brings enlightenment. See, people want to rub and stay in the pain, but pain is fine because pain is going to show you exactly what you need to feel.

1:54:51But you're going to get over it, right? Because look, I'm going to say this. A day is a day and a night is a night. And they are two different things, right? Death and life is two different things. It's just the sun being out. Oh, no. The sun is Ra. The what? The sun is Ra. What is it? You're just going to say some random word? No, no. The Ra. That's what the Egyptians called. It's the name of it. It's Ra. So you're just going to say the same word, but in a different language? No, the sun is Ra. Why do you think they call Ramadan? I'm just saying that the day and the night of the same thing as if the sun is out.

1:55:19No. Why do you think it's called Ramadan? Listen, they pray to the sun, God. Rah. Listen, I don't think I understand. Everybody prays to the sun, God, son of Jesus, son of God. Everybody knows this, but you don't understand this.

1:55:29Rooga:You can name off like a million retarded things that primitive societies believe. It's not retarded. It's not retarded, gang. It's the truth. Listen, I'm going to tell you this. I don't pick size. I don't have a picker. I'm a observer of life. I just watch. I'm a conscious observer. I'm just telling you what everybody does. I'm not telling you what I do. I'm not telling you what I believe. I'm thinking what's going on in the world. I'm a observer. I choose none. I don't choose anything I don't choose anybody but me. I'm just keeping it real. I feel like your lived experience Totally spits in the face of everything you're saying here.

1:55:56Rooga:I live so many times is pathetic if one of your like Nephews or nieces or whatever got hit by a car I think it would be pretty obvious that like you would consider that a bad thing You want to try to use this? Let me tell you this, you know why I'm here with you and you know why I wouldn't have made it here because you know I was on my way to No Jumper. I wanted to come to No Jumper because I had a message to say, but at the same time, my mother had a stroke. I can either stay home with my mother or - Sorry to hear that. I stay home with my mother or come to No Jumper. I came to No Jumper, right?

1:56:22Because No Jumper was a part of my purpose, right? That I'm doing for the creator. I'm gonna tell you this, right?

1:56:27Rooga:I think you probably figured out that like your mom, despite having a stroke, is like you coming to LA for an afternoon is not gonna change that. I figured out I'll work for the creator. And sometimes, and all the time, this walk, I gotta walk alone, right? Because listen, I'm gonna say this. So did you leave her alone? Like who's taking care of her? Does she need someone to take care of her? Is it like that? The creator. Listen, I move forward and everything that I have, I love. But when it's got the purpose and attachment, I choose the purpose and not the attachment, right? This is how I am, right?

1:56:56And everybody knows this because when you are a prophet, that means you can't attach to nothing on this earth. That means I have to roll solo. That means that I have to deliver the message and also show the message. But everybody else have coping mechanisms and they cope with family. I don't need family to cope. I don't need friends to cope. I don't need people to cope. I just need God.

1:57:16Rooga:And there it is. Okay, I've got a piece of Branzino in the other room that I'm really, really excited to eat. Why you always stop when I say some real shit? I spent the hour telling you, what the fuck do you mean there's some real ass shit? Oh, you're going to cough. You disrespectful as fuck. What, because I coughed? In the middle of me saying some real shit, you're going to cough, you're going to play, you're going to play with God? I farted a couple times during this interview as well. you playing with God you playing with everything man yeah I don't blame a God so I have to play hey 607 on no jumper coolest podcast in the world check us out on YouTube TikTok Instagram all that shit like comment and subscribe and shout out to our members god damn it where did all that come from members members members see y 'all soon