Adam Interviews The Doctor Who Did His Hair Transplant!

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0:45You can access thousands of products beyond what's available in-store or on Lowe's.com. Right from the Lowe's Pro Desk. Build quotes faster and source the materials you need to keep your jobs moving. Just like that at Lowe's. Nojumber, coolest podcast in the world. And today, on this Saturday afternoon, I've convened a very, very important podcast. I get constantly asked questions about my hair transplant, of which I have had three, which I will explain as we go on here. But I've actually convened a panel with not only the man himself, Dr. Akar, who was responsible for my hair transplant, but also the man who put us in touch noted performer celebrity one of the finest to ever do it kieran lee as well how are you guys doing very good thank you sir yourself yeah i'm amazing happy to happy to be in here i feel like we're gonna be able to answer a lot of questions for the people out there who are uh very curious about how this goes down yeah thank you very much for the for the inviting yeah no my pleasure so you are located out of istanbul yeah yes and we are in Istanbul.

1:55We have a lot of offices around the world, but the medical procedure is just done in Istanbul. Right. And so how long, just to give them your credentials and everything like that, how long have you actually been doing hair transplants? I'm doing about 15 years. 15 years. Okay. 15 years. And I don't count anymore how many patients I did. Right. Because at this point, you're basically running like a factory type setting where you've got a huge, how many people might come through the building in a given day. It's so. I'm not the only doctor. Yes. We have a lot of doctors now in our clinic. And so each doctor do a number of patients a day.

2:37They have a maximum limit. But I do myself every day just one or two maximum operations. Okay. Myself. And the other doctors, they are doing the same. So in total, we have like daily, like, depends on the season. in summer it's a bit more less it's like five six patients but in winter time it's a bit more like 10 to 15 patients okay for sure so okay i guess like one of my first questions from thinking from the perspective of the people out there is just who is someone that might need a hair transplant or that would be an acceptable person to do it because i think some people think that their hairline is so bad so far back that they were missing so much hair that they maybe would not be applicable for it and then there's some people who maybe are just experiencing a little bit of thinning their hair is just thinning but it's not like completely patchy yet uh who who like like do you feel like there's a typical type of person who makes this decision because when i was in your clinic i saw guys who were probably in their 50s maybe even 60s who were really bald who were getting the process done, which made me realize how many people were actually able to do this.

3:52It is so, Adam, there are different situations. Sometimes the person, he had great hairline, it's a low hairline, but he started to recede his hairline. And he wanted back this, what he had in the past. They came to the clinic, it was like old pictures, like pictures from 20 years ago. And he wanted to say, doctor, I want this back. This is what I want. I don't want more. I don't want less. I just want that, what I had before, but I lost. But sometimes people from the genes, they have like high hairlines. They have like high corners and they feel they are not happy with the high forehead and they come to lower the hairlines, male, female, doesn't matter.

4:38And in all cases, hair transplantation is possible. but in each case the expectation should be well explained before to the person because for example what you told i see like a person he's both from the front up to the back to the right to the donor zone to the safe donor area so for this person we cannot give like a density he was 15 years old but we can give him a nice result nice looking but maybe not 100 but we can achieve 80 percent definitely because like that's one thing that i realized when i got my procedure done because for those who don't know there's basically like shuttles vans that would take you like from the hotel to the clinic to make the whole experience very smooth it's not like you know because as an american in uh you know istanbul uh could be a little bit confusing or overwhelming and you guys go super out of your way to make it as smooth as possible for somebody who hasn't even been outside the country or anything like that.

5:36But I'm in the van with all kinds of different patients. And I'm, you know, talking to some woman who had just gotten the procedure done. And, you know, to me, her hair looked totally normal. And but as I'm looking at it, I'm seeing that it's kind of the lines are like receding up here and stuff. And she had all this filled in and everything. And just looking at her and sort of realizing and now I've done a little bit of research and gone and looked at other women who've had this procedure done. And it made her look so much more youthful and just made her hair look so much stronger. Like it's something that I think people really underestimate is the extent to which the density of your hair is a huge indicator for people of how youthful or healthy you even look.

6:21Exactly. Hairline, hair density. People, if human eyes look to face and if you see the density, the hairline. It means the same as health, healthness, healthy, healthy person, and the same as like youthful. So this comes all together. So that's why in the last 10 years, maybe in the last 15 years, hair transplantation comes very popular. Especially in Europe. Especially in the UK. The UK is huge. The UK is huge. The United States comes very big. And from China to, I don't know, from everywhere, it's kind of very popular because the results come very natural hair transplantation is not something new it's like over 80 years it's on the medical field over 80 years but the results there was not that satisfied so people were scared, they were not sure I stay bald, maybe it's better it was the whole shave your head, grow a beard that was the Jason Statham type look Exactly.

7:30It was sometimes like a trend while because the results was not that natural. So now we figure out how we can really do it as natural as a person has like no hair loss. So people cannot see that is a hair transplantation. Well, they used to take the strip and then basically cut it and then... Yes. I got one of those. I got the scar. I do have the scar. Much like Joe Rogan, who also is another one who's got it. The scar is not wrong, to be honest. Right. As a medical treatment, it's not wrong. If you do it well. What's it called? FUI? It's FUT. FUT, right. Follicle unit transplantation. It's not wrong.

8:15But in the final, the patients decide which method comes popular. The patients push the doctors to not cut the skin like a line, to take the follicles one by one, very sensitive, with very small instruments to leave, to keep them with a chance for very fast healing. So at this time, all the medical doctors, which are in the hair transplantation field, they push to the FUE. That's the new one, the follicular urate extraction. Right, so for the people at home, basically like the old school style that I originally got, they'll go into your head, they cut out a whole strip, and then they're able to basically take all those hair follicles and move them to the front and the the new style that you do is they actually go in and remove your hair follicles one by one it's kind of hard to wrap your head around how this is even possible but they remove them one by one move them to the front and then once they're done and they've put thousands and thousands of hairs in you know whatever area that you need it then afterwards basically your your head gets kind of like hard a little a little stiff and crusty you get you get like you know those tiny scabs around all those hairs but you have to you have to be kind of sensitive to your hair don't touch it too much you have to be careful about how you wash your hair and everything for maybe like a week afterwards and then once time goes by those kind of fall out and it'll look a little bit scraggly for like a couple months but then it starts to grow back in and usually it takes around a year before you're able to see the full strength of how your hair and we're both at that point where our hair looks like 100 how it's gonna look but uh that's that's the whole process and i mean the advantage of cutting the whole strip out i guess is mainly price right because it's quite a bit less expensive at least from my experience back in the day it's less expensive yeah it's true because it's more time consuming yeah yeah it's easier because instead of taking the follicles on the scalp one by one you take the strip take it out and you cut it under the microscope so it's much easier faster yeah but uh what we see is in the last 20 years patients don't like it it sucks i hated it yes it was cheap and that's great but at the end of the day you've had a huge hole cut in your head and they stitch it back and it realistically they do everything possible to make it a smooth transition but it still hurts really bad for a couple of months and even with mine like it's been 10 years and it's still a little stiff back there and and you obviously can see the scar if you were to shave your head in the future and everything from my perspective i i i would not really recommend it to anybody besides maybe if you if you only had a tiny amount of money maybe then it could be but actually that's one part of it too is that when i was went out to get the transplant from you i realized that the amount of money that people charge in turkey is so much less expensive than what it costs out here to the point where you might as well go to turkey even even with the flight and the hotel it's still going to be way cheaper than getting it done out here even if you're somebody with a lot of money even if 10 grand 20 grand isn't that much to you it's still so much cheaper to go out there that i think it makes way more sense than doing it in America.

11:38And Adam, very interesting is people sometimes think about Turkey, they go to Turkey because it's very cheap. It was 15 years ago it was really like that. We began where we tried to understand, where we tried to show our results. People tried to come first to try if it really worked or not. But now we have a lot of patients that come with private jets from China, from Japan. So you're saying it's also the best? It doesn't matter. From Dubai, they come with private jets. They stay for two nights and they pay what they have to pay and they go back. But now the quality is much more on the front than the price.

12:20Turkey is the kind of capital price. Still we don't change the prices that much. Right. We improve a lot. We improve the hotels. We improve the accommodations. We improve everything. We hire much more people but still we don't change the prices too much because we want that, okay it's aesthetic treatment, we want that everybody should have the chance to get back what they have in the past that's the most one of the most different points on hair transplantation, we don't try to give something obvious or something very different, we try to give to the people what they have what they show us on the pictures they have it in the past, we try to give them back this and Well, Turkey's now like the capital of the world for hair transplant, especially in Europe.

13:08Everybody knows it. There's all the jokes about Turkish hairlines and whatnot, like the pictures of the guys on the plane have all had it done and everything. But I see it also on Grammy, I think. They make like a joke about Turkey. Oh, I didn't see it, but probably, yes. Everybody knows about it at this point, yeah. But that's the thing. But I'll be honest, when I first went, when people said, oh, you're going to go to Turkey, I thought hostile. You remember the movie Hostel? I thought, I'm going to go, I'm going to Turkey. I've never been to Turkey. I didn't know much background. I'm thinking, I'm going to end up at a place like that, a hostel, and nobody's going to speak English, and what am I getting myself in for?

13:47But the experience was night and day. Like, I'll be honest, the clinics, especially your clinic, it's better than anything you'll find in Beverly Hills. The Beverly, I've seen, like, you know, my wife's had her boobs done. It's like a little corridor. You know, it's like an old dainty office. But he's one of the best doctors. But I'm like, I don't know if I trust this place, you know, from the outside. Now, going to yours, it's like stepping in. You remember the Jetsons? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like stepping into the Jetsons. I'm like, this is unreal. The clinic is out of this world. And I think now people are seeing that going, hang on, I can go for a bit of a vacation.

14:24I'm looked after. People speak English. It's a great environment. And the results I'm getting. This is the most important. it's the result you find we can give a five star hotel you can be very nice but if you don't give him the result why he came before it doesn't matter but not just him it's her as well of course that's the thing now I'm noticing a lot of girls that go in yes I can get my hair done like again my wife she'd have three children and like obviously most you know a lot of ladies experience hair loss after and then she's going I'd like mine like lower down a little bit now and things like that and it's not just a guy thing anymore yes it is it's both it's more and more women ladies are more interested because uh what we see is they are not happy with the corners because if they pull it like back they think the forehead is too high and the name of the surgery has the special name uh lowering of the forehead okay what is it for the girls that either tushy cash had hers done and she called it the the barbie hairline yeah exactly the similar exactly basically yeah it just looks like a doll it's it's called like lowering the hairline lowering the forehead this is now one of another reason for for hair transplantation okay yeah what was the reason you got yours done so adam you have three right can you explain from the one how do you decide i'm i wanna well okay so i i feel like i'm the best test case for why going to turkey is the best decision because in 2012 in long beach i ended up getting it done and that's where they cut the strip out i think i spent around three thousand dollars and it was it was good it was successful it got it done but also very painful with the the head in the background and everything it was stapled clothes i think it was that was a terrible experience but as far as the actual price and what i got done it was okay then 2018 i ended up getting uh uh i think 15 and that first one i think i got 4 000 follicles that's good the second one i got 1500 follicles i think maybe maybe 2000 but i did it in beverly hills and we did the the individual hair uh method i think i spent fifteen thousand dollars which was quite expensive and then in comparison when i was doing the math yours i got i think six thousand follicles done if i remember correctly and i think it i don't want to say exactly but i think it would have been about a couple thousand dollars yeah from your perspective so by far if i could go back in time I would have gone to you in the first place and I would have if I needed to do it again I would have done that but instead of going under the knife three times I really think I could have done it back in 2012 and then got it done by you afterwards and that would have been good I didn't need to get three I could have got two the one I got in the middle was the most expensive by far and also like the smallest number of follicles so yeah from my perspective it's a super easy decision go to Turkey it doesn't matter yes I know you're going to spend whatever a thousand dollars or whatever on on flights and hotel and everything like that but the ultimate result was just so much better that for sure having done all three of these i would i would go to turkey anytime if i needed to do it again in five six years however i would i would end up going to turkey for sure again when you had yours done here in america did they cap you on how many you could do they were very yeah because like at that time i would have wanted to get a lot more and they that's one thing in america is that they'll really try to get you to do less which they didn't even want to do it in the first place and i ended up having to say like i'm on camera all day every day like i have a real reason to want to do this and they were like okay but yeah i thought that was strange a friend of mine yeah it is done and they they well rick he they said it like 1500 or 2000 that's the max you can do and then he had it done here and he was like wow yeah i can see you know results like that but then it's like you want more you know it's like okay, well, if I have another$2 ,000, it's going to even, that's another$15 ,000 all of a sudden.

18:50That's one of the very important reasons. People are asking why people are traveling to Turkey, right? So I have very good friends in the States. I mean, we meet in congresses and we speak about the techniques and everything, and they tell us, you're doing too much grafts in one session. and we tell them you're doing too less because we have almost everyday patients from United States who came for a second session and I check their files, I check what they did, they get like 1500 grafts but the size of the hair loss the patient will be never satisfied with that because everything is a mathematic, you calculate the size of the hair loss.

19:41You know how many grafts you have to transplant per centrum square that the human eye sees as a nice density, as a nice volume. And if you have the chance to do it in one time, this is a huge comfort for the patient. Instead of making every year or every two years a hair transplantation is not easy for the patients. This is a part of payment, a part of money, a part of expenses, everything. if you can give him 4 000 if he's of course is the donor is everything okay if you give him the 4 000 at once instead of three time yeah this gives him five years yeah advantage to get his final result this is one of the biggest reasons people traveling to turkey yeah yeah because i mean going under the knife three times versus one time i mean obviously one time is just so much And it is true that when I got mine done with you guys, I think I might have been getting the surgery for like seven hours or something like that.

20:42Like it took quite a while. It's basically like a whole day. And you've got your whole head numbed up and everything. So I didn't really feel anything. I actually ended up sleeping like the entire time. It's pain-free. Yeah, yeah. I didn't feel any pain. Yeah. Afterwards, it's uncomfortable because your head will be kind of swollen in the back. And it's like scabby and bloody. You have something like a press on the scalp. Yeah, you definitely got a couple of days after you get it done that are a little bit uncomfortable. But, you know, you'll be shocked at how quickly you basically just return to normal life.

21:11How good is it after the 13 days when you wash the scabs? Oh, yeah. I was like, I've had many pleasurable experiences in my life. Many beautiful women. That's great to hear. But my wife washing that up, I was like, do it again every day of the week. It was unbelievable. Right. Okay, so one question that came up a lot when I was asking the fans what their questions were was basically when it comes to white people hair and black people hair. Yeah. From your perspective, what's the difference? What are the different considerations? Obviously, like the average black person tends to wear their hair a bit shorter in terms of men and everything.

21:51And the men, white men, I think tend to have their hair a bit longer. But from your perspective, they're both eligible candidates. dates do you approach it in any way differently it's so we have like white people they have more straight follicles afro-american have different shape of c-type follicles so you need the experience to do that first of all you need the instruments the instruments are slightly different you need experience how to do that if you do everything right everything works perfect we did a lot of Afro-American hair transplantations. Very good results, not any problem. We have to make the calculations.

22:33You have to understand the difference of the hair numbers, what you have on the scalp compared to a white person's hair follicle. If you know that, everything works perfect. We do almost every day for Afro-American hair types. And Afro-American hair types have also differences in hairs. The follicles, once you take it out, one is like that. It's like a curve C-shape. One is like that. The other one is like between. It's like mixed rays, for example. This is a different situation. If you have the instruments, if you have the experience, you can get great results. What's the hardest hair type to do?

23:17The hardest hair type is sometimes if you have, it's like afro-american if it's very deep in the scalp you have to use a bit longer instruments a bit longer to catch the follicle to take it out without the damage to follicle these are the most difficult cases but for us it's not any more difficult because we do it for many years experience a membership that backs what you're building with american express business platinum Get two times membership rewards points per dollar on eligible purchases in key business categories, as well as on each eligible purchase of$5 ,000 or more, on up to$2 million in eligible purchases per calendar year.

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25:31They aren't sure what to expect. They feel like going into this environment that it's going to be, uh, intimidating from your perspective. What do you guys do to make this as smoothly as smooth a process as possible for people? So first of all, for us, it's very important that people really feel comfortable because they come, they go abroad. It doesn't matter if it's another city or it's another country. You go somewhere where you don't know where you was not before, and you go for medical treatment. You don't go for it as a normal tourist. And we try to give the most comfort as possible. We pick them up from the airport.

26:11We organize their hotels. we organize their transfer to the hospital whatever they need they can call Texas anytime so all this stuff which can make stress before you come or during your stay in Istanbul we take all this effort in our hands with our staff so this is what they see they like this and they told us they don't see a service like that they don't expect it until they come Of course, you write everything. We say this is the five-star, for example, Sheraton Hotel, Hilton Hotel is first class. Or they stay in the hospital. This is also something very important. If you have some medical risks and we give them a VIP transport.

26:58I mean, all of these are standards. And if you give them to the patients, they feel very relaxed. They trust much more. and very important is we don't finish the connection after the hair transplantation or any other procedures, we follow them. We want that everybody gets really satisfied. This is very important for us. 100%. So you've only done it once? Just once. Just once. One was six years ago, wasn't it? Six years ago. Yes, six years ago. And it's still holding in strong. Have you thought about getting it done again or no? Just talking now, because obviously for me, I never took the finasteride.

27:40A lot of people will say take finasteride. Same thing here. For those who don't know, finasteride is like basically a chemical that you could take. It's a blocker. It's a DHT blocker. It basically will make your hair thicker and stronger and will prevent your hair from receding. The downside of it, which is something that most people really wouldn't or shouldn't care about, is that it makes you ejaculate less. Is that correct? Or does it make your overall sex drive less? It can lower your sex drive. It can lower your sex drive. The percentage is about, there are different statistics, but they say about 1 % to 3%.

28:19But sometimes we heard about it sometimes more, depends. It's like. Because 1 % to 3 % sounds like almost nothing. But I think it also kind of affects people mentally. Exactly, mentally. Yeah. I can see it's more what we heard, what we hear from the patients is the feedback it looks like more so that's why people write it on Google, they have forums they share the experience together and once they see this word less sex drive this is like 100 % for them for any man like we were saying earlier, when you get to that age where you start getting mid 30s, 40s, your sex drive is already on the way down but if you say right i don't want to lose the hair i don't want to lose the sex drive can have the best of both exactly so for me i i didn't go down that route with the finesse for you i don't you can take everything just not the just don't touch do you recommend it for most people though the average patient i recommend to most people right but there are different forms now of finesse right it's not only the tablets uh they do as a topical topical means still goes in the blood circulation still goes on the body but not like the tablet like the oral so it means less side effects so it's tough to maintain okay hopefully you guys are enjoying this interview with dr akar i just wanted to let you guys know that if you're thinking about getting a hair transplant for yourself, then this is what you got to do.

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30:27Hopefully it answers all your questions. And if you've got more questions, make sure you leave them down below and us as well as the doctor will weigh in. Thank you. Do you see men coming in in their early 20s now or in their 20s in general? I'm sure most people who do it are in their 30s, 40s, I would think, but do men tend to get this done quite young as well now? Adam, to be honest, in the last two years, I see a lot of people, their hair loss starts on age of 17. Yeah. I see that a lot. In the last two years, I see myself in my clinic a lot. I don't know the general statistics, what's happened, but we see it a lot.

31:06We don't want to do for young people hair transplantation. We wait mostly for they start some medications like regain, like PRP injections, like other vitamin stuff. Maybe they can win it back. Maybe it can grow back. It can be satisfied for many years. But the patients who came to us, we asked them before. They tried everything. Still nothing has happened. And he came with his father. He came with his mom and they told, we speak one by one with the family and they told me, doctor, I know he's young. I know you don't want to take his patient, but he cannot go to the school. He cannot socialize.

31:54He's very shy. His friends post pictures on social media, but he don't. He has all the time ahead. So then we do the operation because we see it really affects his social life. It's very important because for his age is a standard. It's not something extra. Because I started to notice my hair thinning or the widow's peak coming in probably when I was like 28, 29, something like that. But I have had friends over the years who at the age of like 18 just started shaving their head because their hairline was so bad that they were like, okay, I guess I'm just shaving my head for life. You know, it's just not that uncommon.

32:32They get like irregular hairline. They don't like it. They start to shave. It's happened. To be honest, I never even thought about mine until a friend of mine had his done. And he said, oh, yours is going a little bit there now. And I, is it? And then I started looking in the mirror. And then it was the, you know, washing your hair. And then you're noticing like, hang on a minute. And then I'd been on camera all the time. I would notice going, hang on, my scenes from back in the day, look at how great my hair looked. now i'm going god that light's hitting a bit strong there and yeah oh no and then it was only then i reached out and i was like okay and like i said at first i i was oblivious to it i thought i was going to the uk to get it done because that's what i'd been speaking to i thought i'm going to the uk and they said yeah we booked your flight you're going to turkey and then i'm not gonna lie that's when i started to panic but i thought okay well i'm committed to it now it is what it is if it goes wrong, I'm shaving my head and I'm growing a beard.

33:34That was it. But then, like I said, I came out and I was like, wow, this is another level. And like I said, over here, it is night and day compared to Beverly Hills to Istanbul. I think it's miles ahead, miles ahead. And not just in hair, but obviously the teeth that you do. And then also the other one, have you seen the full body health screening? they do that in turkey yeah so over here you what is mris yeah mris every you can test for everything and more over here in america that's costing you 15 to 20 000 for all this medical procedure over in turkey it was like a thousand twelve hundred dollars and you're in a hospital aren't you for the day and you get everything the hospitals in in turkey like um 20 years ago they spend a lot of technology for the hospitals.

34:28But building a hospital is not the point. You can have money, you can build it, but you need the staff, the medical staff. That's the main problem. And Turkey was, the people are very interested in going to the university in medical school, nurses. They are very highly interested in that because it's like, this gives you like in a social life, like a positive, something positive, you know? So that's why they build a lot of hospitals, very high luxury. Each hospital is more luxury than the other one. It's really like sometimes I don't understand. I say, hey, what's that? It's like a seven-star hotel.

35:06It's not like five-star anymore. It's like a hospital. But they did it. They bring all the high-quality, high-tech devices. They do even special devices just for Turkey from big companies. and the most important is to run the hospital. You need good medical staff. You need good educated doctors. And I think Turkey has a good system from the past. They was able to manage all these big hospitals and we have a hospital now, Adam. We changed our building also. We do everything from A to Z about aesthetics, everything. Tantal treatments, plastic surgery. I'm the doctor responsible for the hair transplantation, but we have many other doctors who think everything from A to Z about aesthetics.

35:58Right, 100%. Okay, so this is one thing that I wanted to talk about, was just the stigma associated with it, because I remember when I first got my hair transplant done back in the day that I was, like, very embarrassed. I didn't want anyone to know. I was very dedicated to keeping it a secret. I had a beanie, like a very loose fitting beanie that I like, cause I had friends in town. Like I couldn't just like go in my room for a few days. I had to like be entertaining people that were around and stuff. So I had this very loose beanie that I would put on to basically like hide the fact that I had had this done.

36:31And I managed to actually keep it a secret for many, many years. And then when I finally, uh, you know, I finally came clean about it and stuff like that. But I just wanted to even speak about that because I think probably a decent percentage of people out there don't realize how common this is and if you really wanted to get some examples all you'd have to do is go to youtube or google and type in you know men who have had hair transplants and you are going to find out that a huge percentage of the biggest celebrities musicians actors etc have all had it done you take somebody like machine gun kelly and you look at the picture of him before he got it done and what he looks like now i mean nothing's going to convince you more than that of seeing what a dude like that looks like with a killer widow's beak versus having a completely straight hairline i mean it takes him from looking i don't want to attack anyone but from not good to incredible one of the most handsome men david beckham sure yeah there you go his is night and day like i saw a picture of him not long it was like his hair was like see-through now he's luscious locks again and you know what fair play before it was something just for celebrities right like rhinoplasty for example no joke it was just something for celebrities for hollywood stars for example but now it's not like that so you can get the same quality even better even better if you make your research well if you know where where you have to go you can get the same quality treatment i think it's more of a bro thing though and it you know it's like guys will my english is going to come out take the piss out of each other yes it'll be like ah look he's got his hair transplant yeah you know where if that was a girl if you just stuck on new boobs she's got wow how soft are your boobs wow that's great boob job look at the scar that's fantastic girls are a lot more you know supporting of each other where now guys it's much easier for a decision yeah yeah and then you see you can come through to Cosmedica after you see Kieran, right?

38:35He's the one who told me, yeah, because I never thought that I would get it done overseas. I thought that I would just do it in America. How do you see Cosmedica? Me? Yeah, how do you find it? Life-changing, in the sense of you Googled or you just through Google. That was it. And then also another friend of mine that had had his done and he was in, like, you know, a celebrity back then. I was like, he's in our clinic yeah yeah yeah yeah and i looked at calum's and i'd known for a long time and i was like i'm on camera a lot and i don't want to get to the stage where i just go i've got to shave it and you know i've built up after you guys we did also another celebrities from hollywood but you cannot tell the name to be honest okay you know them yeah yeah yeah we cannot tell the names but i'm sure you've had a lot of pretty well-known people over the years right Keep it secret.