In short
Conversation with social media creator/musician Alina Rose about celibacy, her adult-content income, relationship standards, and backlash toward OnlyFans/porn. She also discusses her “Lady Gaga demon” persona, financial independence, and her past work as a stripper and streamer.
Guest backgrounds
Alina Rose (Perla) grew up in LA. She worked since age 16, was a dishwasher, then became a stripper after being kicked out at 18. She aimed to save money for streaming equipment and later shifted to OnlyFans during COVID. She says she blew up solo via TikTok dancing/pics, reaching ~5 million followers, and claims her highest OnlyFans month was $800,000.
Key claims
She identifies as a musician (5 unreleased songs) and says sex requires love; she’s been celibate for about a year and won’t date men she believes are promiscuous. She argues “body count” shouldn’t matter and criticizes manosphere “rage bait” podcasts. She says she doesn’t want to depend on a man financially, prefers partners who are selective and supportive, and has a prenup if she marries.
Notable examples
Her “Bop House” follower growth; her ex (the only man she says made her orgasm); the manosphere-style table podcast she calls rage bait; her $800k/month peak; her “vanilla sex” experience and difficulty finishing unless in love.
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Chapters
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0:45 to 2:42
Discussion on Alina's identity as a musician versus her success on OnlyFans.
The Nature of Relationships and Celibacy
2:42 to 5:47
Alina shares her experiences with relationships and her choice of celibacy for a year.
Perceptions of Sexual History
5:47 to 8:22
Discussion on how societal views influence perceptions of sexual partners and relationships.
“Yeah, I've never like, like I've heard my friends, like some of my, I have girlfriends that tell me like, oh yeah, like I've had this guy do this, this, this.”
Expectations in Relationships
8:22 to 12:56
Exploration of expectations in relationships, particularly regarding effort and emotional connection.
Fitness and Relationships
12:56 to 14:00
The importance of fitness in relationships and its effect on personal motivation.
“Yeah, we were both not a good influence.”
Navigating Healthy Eating Habits
14:00 to 15:00
Learn how personal experiences with food affect lifestyle choices.
“Like you really have to be careful what you eat.”
Perspective on Relationships at Different Ages
15:00 to 16:40
Explore contrasting views on relationships and timing based on age.
Independence from Traditional Relationships
16:40 to 18:20
Discuss the importance of financial independence and self-sufficiency in relationships.
The Complex Nature of Trust and Jealousy
18:20 to 20:00
Examine personal trust issues and how they affect relationship dynamics.
Communication in Relationships
20:00 to 21:40
Understand the significance of open communication in romantic partnerships.
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Balancing Career Goals with Relationships
21:40 to 24:10
Learn how to maintain individuality in relationships while pursuing career ambitions.
Cultural Perspectives on Marriage and Independence
24:10 to 25:50
Explore cultural differences in marriage, independence, and living arrangements.
“I just feel like that's, like, it's kind of interesting to think about, like, how somebody like you have an ad opinion about, like, not even caring about in a relationship.”
Alina's Journey to Fame and Independence
25:50 to 28:00
Discover Alina's rise to fame and her journey through personal challenges.
“It's, like, in countries where they maybe have, like, less disposable income, getting married is such, like, a survival strategy as well, you know?”
Stripping for Survival
28:00 to 29:18
Learn about Alina's journey into stripping and its impact on her life.
“And then my mom was like, oh, well, you because when I got kicked out, I was living on a couch for three hundred dollars a month.”
Complex Family Dynamics
29:18 to 30:52
Explore Alina's complicated relationship with her mother and its effects on her.
Transitioning to OnlyFans
30:52 to 33:59
Discover how Alina transitioned from stripping to OnlyFans and her experiences.
“Like it's like when she speaks to me, I just get so like, I just get built like full of anger.”
Navigating Sexuality and Identity
33:59 to 37:24
Discuss the challenges of being non-sexual while in an adult content space.
Societal Norms and Judgments
37:24 to 42:03
Examine societal perceptions of women in adult entertainment versus mainstream actors.
OnlyFans vs. Hollywood: A Double Standard
42:03 to 45:03
Discussing the societal perceptions of women in adult content versus mainstream actresses.
Earning Big on OnlyFans
45:03 to 48:05
Alina shares her financial success on OnlyFans and her thoughts on investing.
Influence and Aspirations Beyond OnlyFans
48:05 to 50:44
Exploring Alina's desire to inspire others and not be defined solely by her OnlyFans success.
“So I'm just waiting to see what I'm going to invest in, what I'm going to use my money for, because I don't really know what to do.”
Navigating Parenthood and Past Decisions
50:44 to 53:24
The complexities of discussing adult work with children and the realities of parenting.
The Risks of Growing Up Too Fast
53:24 to 56:00
A reflection on youth culture and the dangers of early exposure to adult themes.
Exposure to Drugs in Schools
56:00 to 57:20
Discussion about the alarming prevalence of drug culture among school kids.
Personal Experiences with Drugs and Alcohol
57:20 to 59:20
Sharing personal stories regarding the use of drugs and alcohol during teenage years.
Dating Dynamics and Expectations
59:20 to 1:01:50
Exploration of relationship dynamics, including dating expectations and emotional connections.
“What's your gaming diet like these days?”
Friendship Before Romance
1:01:50 to 1:04:40
Discussing the importance of friendship as a foundation for romantic relationships.
Personal Boundaries and Dating
1:04:40 to 1:09:40
Exploration of personal boundaries in dating and the significance of mutual respect.
“So I don't wanna just like talk to many guys, many guys and have all these failing talking stages and they could be like, oh yeah, I had her.”
Perception of Money and Relationships
1:09:40 to 1:10:01
Discussion on the impact of financial success on personal relationships and self-perception.
“i i need to be in love with the person right so i even if i wanted to i can't like it just it it disgusts me.”
Reflections on Wealth and Human Experience
1:10:01 to 1:12:09
Alina shares her thoughts on wealth and personal relationships shaped by her upbringing.
“I can't imagine it where myself, like, I think it's fine that other girls do that.”
Inside the Bop House
1:12:10 to 1:13:27
Alina discusses her experiences and the dynamics of living in the Bop House.
“And I feel like that's the most important time to put effort into your kid.”
Reflection on the Conversation
1:13:28 to 1:14:11
Alina and the host reflect on their discussion and the passage of time during the recording.
Promotion of Alina's Music
1:14:12 to 1:15:02
Alina promotes her music career and aspirations as an artist.
“You guys might think I'm only a blue page girl, but no.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00No jumper, coolest podcast in the world. And today I'm bringing you an episode with social media superstar Alina Rose. Hello. How are you doing? I'm doing good. How are you? What am I supposed to introduce you as? What would you prefer to be titled as? Content creator? Is it okay if I do like rage bait? Sure. Okay. You could call me a musician. Okay. Yeah. I'm a musician. how far along in your music career are you um i only have five songs out right now okay what has generated more music or more money your music or your only fans oh the music has not generated so in that way i'm sure you can see where i'm going with this it's a little difficult to really go with musician right um no i'm a musician it's like uh you know maybe it doesn't make me any money but that's what i claim myself as that's what you believe your future is yeah i'm speaking from like the future what are you doing music wise um like what do you mean i haven't heard it yet like what style of music is it can i show you one sure it's an unreleased one but we'll have to chop it out for the non-members version but this one i just worked on last night okay
1:47I might add you to the team what is that like objectifying men yeah men objectify me all the time
2:06okay I see I see what you're doing so you're kind of like like a demon enchantress yes like tempting men into your yes is that like really who you are or um no it's your character this is like your Lady Gaga demon thing it's like um it's Alina okay so my real name is not even Alina Rose it's Perla my real name is Perla Perla yeah but Alina Rose like that's the character I've created and she's the one that wants like one or two or three men okay yeah and she wants money like all she cares about is money getting that bag me I'm a good girl but Alina Rose see john demon time because i always tell people that one weird thing about like girls who get rich off only fans or whatever is that they always just get a boyfriend right away and like i think a lot of these dudes like believe off instagram or whatever that all these hot chicks with mad followers and mad only fans money are like huge sluts and that is such a rare exception because as soon as a girl has like money and comfort and control they usually want like a partner to spend their time with guys too but guys sometimes like to be free i actually was just in a relationship for like three years and i got out of it one year ago but i haven't talked to like i haven't had sex with anybody ever since damn yeah how long has it been like a year you haven't had sex in a year i haven't had sex in a year what are you waiting for i just don't want to give my time to these men like i don't think they're worth my time i don't think that like i just haven't found somebody that meets my standards but i mean i feel like you have access probably just because you have five million followers you have access to like a lot of very high value men right they got to be swimming in your dms like both high value in like a you know sort of superficial way like you know famous like that and then also just like cool guys i have a lot of guys in my dms but it's like i don't know it's like why i i just don't see a future with them like okay i have a lot of famous guys but it's like i don't know i feel like they're whores like i feel like they would talk to like even if they like i don't know them so i don't know for a fact but it's just in my head that they would have a lot of girls talking to them so it's just it's better if i don't even like talk to a guy that does like stuff like that or like it's just big on social media i don't know i also feel like it's something that like it's supposed to come natural i'm not supposed to go looking for it like if it comes to me like cool like i'm not gonna like deny it forever but it's not something i'm gonna go out of my way to like get either but so you're totally off the part of your life if there ever was a part of your life where you were dudes just because they were famous and because it just seemed fun you were never like that no no famous guy could ever say he me really really well the only one is my ex like well he's like he has a following okay yeah he's the only one okay but like there was never a time in your life where you were more just down to like hook up with random dudes no you always like more girlfriend before that um i had a girlfriend for two years before the guy for three years i had a girlfriend yeah so i've never like slept around damn yeah and i don't want like i don't see anything wrong with people that do sleep around like that's yeah i feel like everybody is allowed to like live their life that the way they want to i just don't like living like that like it's just i'm not very i'm not a very sexual person i get um like in order for me to even get turned on i have to be in love with that person i have to really like love and if i if there's no love like i can't even get wet or like turned on or nothing like it's just dry really yeah that's interesting i have a theory though i feel like a lot of girls are like whores well you know promiscuous up until they get into a relationship and then like once they feel like they've like fully locked this dude down then they just kind of fall back because like they weren't really a sexual person to begin with they were just to try to like make guys like them To be honest, all I've ever had is vanilla sex.
6:27Really? Yeah, I've never like, like I've heard my friends, like some of my, I have girlfriends that tell me like, oh yeah, like I've had this guy do this, this, this. And I'm like, oh my God, like I've never had that happen to me. I'm like, I've only ever had vanilla sex. So, okay. Hypothetical scenario. I am married, but if I wasn't, and this was like a conversation where we're like figuring out if we liked each other how much of a turnoff would it be that i've done everything under the sun sexually and on camera that's like probably like not that cool right yeah i probably i probably wouldn't want to be with a guy that like right it's just been with a lot of girls because I haven't been with a lot of guys.
7:16So I don't see anything wrong with that, but I personally haven't been with that. Yes, my stuff, I've never done porn either. My stuff is on social media, like my body and stuff, but I have never gave my body to guys like that. I'm very specific with who I give my body to, and I would want somebody that does the same. They're very selective with who they sleep with. So I'd want the same. But once again, I don't think what you're doing is wrong. I think we all live differently, and you're allowed to live the way you live. like i it's just my preference okay i just want to clarify because it's pretty funny because we're like completely on the opposite sides of this wait so what's your number is less than 10 yeah it's less than 10 less than five oh you broke the five barrier okay i mean on like the whatever pod that's enough you're you're kind of no good i feel like this like you know i'm talking about the whatever podcast what is that uh it's like a sort of like man manosphere podcast where they just have mad girls sitting around the table and then there's just like one white guy interviewing them oh my god i've seen that yeah i feel like that's just pure rage like it's just pure rage bait and people donate hella money to just talk to the girls it's kind of insane yeah that's that's crazy yeah but they like i'm always astounded when i look at that because like from my perspective if a girl has like you know 50 sex partners i'm so not tripping i feel like it's these dudes are tripping about like a couple like to them that's crazy like you should kind of only marry a virgin in their world i i don't know i don't think like there's anything like i feel like if people like having sex like go crazy like they're i don't think a valuable person like goes down by how many bodies they have that's so stupid to me i really think that people they're like oh this person has too many bodies like they're like bro who cares about how many bodies a person has it's like it's their life that's how they want to live like but i feel like you would care if the guys because you said you don't want to be with a guy who's been with a ton of girls i might i might be with a guy though that does like that maybe he changed his ways and now he's like selective with who he like sleeps with or something but like i have a guy tells me like oh i've had like 50 i wouldn't care like at the end of the day i really wouldn't care about his bodies i mean i would prefer a guy that doesn't have that many bodies but i wouldn't care if he did have that many bodies okay like yeah but wait so you said you're not a sexual person so if you're with a guy long term how many times you think you're having sex per month i mean it's because i don't know it's like i only have like i would only have sex if i'm like happy like if like they're taking me out on dates if like they're like doing something to like make me like if they're not they're not taking me out on dates if they're not um like putting any effort it's like but when you're really in a relationship with a girl if you're like buying her flowers or taking her on dates like that it sort of like loses its power pretty quickly because because it's like you're just showing you care like if you show you care like a girl like that's well every girl is different every person is different so there is girls that might get tired of it there's girls that might think that's boring but me personally like what keeps me interested in a guys that he keeps on taking me on dates he keeps on like buying me flowers here and there he keeps just showing me that he cares like to me that's what like makes me like oh like i love this guy like he keeps on showing up every time you know maybe there's girls that don't like that which is fine like i said we all have different um like way like we all live life differently yeah but if you want your relationship to last you definitely gotta like keep trying it's it's it's it's tough you know you gotta you gotta keep making that effort how old are you i'm 26 26 okay so you're like in that weird zone where high school is like way in the the rearview mirror but then at the same time you kind of know that like your biological clock is ticking and you're gonna have to reproduce at some point to be honest i am perfectly okay dying alone like really so you're not trying to be a mom at some point no damn okay what's funny is when i was in my past relationship of three years i did see myself as a mother i did see myself having kids i did see myself getting married but once that was over i was like no i'll never have a kid i'll never do that like i'll never get married today it's like it didn't work out with this one guy i i feel like for me to feel that way again i would have to be in love like maybe if the right guy came and then like he showed me that he could like be good for me and like he could like make my future good and like be a good dad then it'd make me change my mind to be like okay I do want a kid again but as of right now I don't want any kids I don't care if I do have any kids I don't care if I get married I don't care if I have like I haven't ended up with a guy like but if you meet a guy tomorrow and you fall deeply in love with him you're gonna want to have kids with him and get married when I find the yeah I find the right guy I mean I haven't found the right guy that like that has like made me want to have kids i would be so fascinated if you were seriously like no i'm totally just down to just grow old alone i'm also down to grow old alone like i am yeah what are your hobbies like what are you doing that's like occupying so much of your time my music i like to play video games um i just like to work on myself and like i like to make money i like to take care of my family i like to just do things but like i feel like when i'm in a relationship i just revolve my whole world around them and then i just completely forget about myself like in the three-year relationship like that was the ugliest i've ever been in my life i was that like i waited the biggest my i didn't take care like i didn't take care of my anything like i just let myself go what was it about this guy that brought out such a negative version of you i don't think it was his fault i think it was just like um we both were just play video games so we both didn't like encourage each other to like go work out or like eat healthy like he was a streamer yeah so it was couch potatoes encouraging each other to be inactive.
13:18That's crazy. Yeah, we were both not a good influence. You could be with a gym dude and then you could both just motivate each other to work out. I want that. Ideally, I would want a guy that works out so he could motivate me to work out with him too. Right now, I haven't been working out, but I would like to it would be nice to have a partner to work out, but I could also do it on my own. Yeah. Yeah, but like when you see a couple together and it's obvious that they both are just like insane next level athletes that they just probably encourage the out of each other. Like that's goals right there.
13:52Like me and my girl and we're on the same page with that. Like I always want to snack more than her. Oh, that's bad. Yeah, because like, well, if you want her to stay, you know, like, yeah, the steak nice. Like you really have to be careful what you eat. You have to like work out often and just like, I don't know. I try my best not to snack because once I snack, I get addicted. I get addicted and I can't stop. It's like a cycle of like you just fall. Like once I eat one little snack and I cheat, it's like I have to have a snack every single day now. So you don't even keep it in your house? No, I don't like having snacks in my house.
14:26Yeah, me neither, but now I have a kid, so I have to. Oh, how old is he? She, five, five and a half. That's so cute. Yeah, it's great. Yeah, but you got to keep, you know, all kinds of. crackers and pretzels and all kinds of in the house and like this kind of makes it hard to be militant with it when it's like yeah no there were snacks in my house i would be eating that every single day yeah i love i love me some snacks yeah but i just i hate getting weight i just i really feel like you you need to stay vigilant in terms of like finding a man and getting into a relationship but i also i think it's like you're 26 i'm 42 so i feel like we probably view the world very differently but like from my lens it seems like everybody i know is like trying to get into a relationship and have kids and i'm like damn she's like giving up like you're blackpilled it's not that i've given up it's just that i don't care for it i'm like if it happens it happens if it doesn't it doesn't it's just like i feel like everything is just supposed to happen naturally like if it's meant to happen in my life it will but if it's not then that's okay it's not gonna be the end of the world if it doesn't happen but do you worry that you're not spending enough time trying to find the right one no because i don't think i should be looking like i don't think i should be wasting my time trying to find something like i said it's so i feel like it's supposed to happen naturally but what if you're not being open-minded enough what if what if they've already dm'd you and you just didn't watch enough reels of them to to know if he was the one since that's probably like what you do right like if you're gonna vet a guy watches reels see if you think he's funny i don't know well not everyone has reels yeah of them just talking or whatever i don't know i just i mean i find guys attractive like i'm like oh this guy's cute i think this guy this guy's fine so you start there like start with if they're hot and they're fine but i don't like i wouldn't talk to them i because i see it as like okay yeah i could talk to him but like he could probably just waste my time and play with my emotions and like just wait like you know and it's just something i don't even want to deal with right now i don't want to deal with the heartbreak i don't want to deal with the guy up my routine i just want to focus on myself and focus on my career my future and once again if it happens it happens and it'll come to me naturally see this is like a new invention that didn't really exist when i was younger which is like a woman a young woman who is set financially off of her that she got going on she doesn't need a man's approval and is overall just kind of indifferent to the whole thing so if you really want to like pull her you gotta like kill it you gotta like really put on a show which is like when i think about like all the chicks that i was dealing with like my whole life it was just like they were all just like thirsty for like a dude to like claim them and like take care of them and like support them and all this type of you know and it's like you you're like indicative of like where womenhood womanhood is at now where like a lot of young hot girls are able to just like make it so that they just don't have to like deal with any yeah i feel like we shouldn't depend on a guy to take care of us or pay our bills i mean if that's the route they want to go that's fine but it's just like you're depending on a guy who could leave you any day anytime and then what you're stuck with nothing you're stuck with no money like you're stuck with trying to find that guy to take care of you again it's just like stressful but that shit was fire because then we had all the control yeah that's not i know i don't i don't like people controlling me i don't like i hate when a man controls me i hate when he tells me what to do like i haven't had a guy tell me what the to do i'll be damned are you a toxic latino lover
18:21maybe i am like i mean is that stereotype hold true for you like are you like smashing a lamp over the dude's head if he fucks up no no i'm not smashing like maybe i'll scream at him like scream what kind of things are you screaming about you get jealous about that's like totally irrational no to be honest i'm not really the jealous type really i don't give a fuck no because listen if they cheat on me that's their loss i'm like okay bye like you're lost stupid but what if it's like he's in a situation where it looks like he's cheating or like a person seeing i would be okay with the guy taking pictures of other only fan girls i wouldn't care like if he if he's working with girls i don't care but as you found out he was making out with them that was like i would just break up that's a problem but but you're just done like no zero tolerance yeah like i would i wouldn't even i wouldn't even give it a reaction i'd just be like bet have fun why are you so gangster not gangster it's just like why am i get when a guy cheats bet like like bet like okay that's harsh like okay what am i supposed to do i'm gonna cry like no yes that's like traditionally that kind of thing was normal maybe i'll cry like when nobody's watching like i'll be and i'll be like but like to his face like you'll not see me cry i'll be like you and your mama and your grandpa do you feel like you have a hard time opening up to dudes like yeah sharing who you really are with them because you don't trust anybody because you have no feelings yeah i don't really yeah i don't really trust men right yeah i saw shack saying that no matter how close a man gets with a woman he shouldn't share everything with her like really be his true self because he'll always end up using it against you in the end you think that's true i don't know it's kind of depressing if it is true that is depressing i feel like if you really love somebody you shouldn't hold back anything like you should be 100 yourself and if you feel like you can't then that's not the person for you i feel like i'm pretty up front with my wife about everything she's definitely seen like the the the worst that i've been yeah and i feel like that's where true love is like you guys see the worst in each other and you guys still decide to stay and you guys accept each other for exactly who you are yeah and i feel like that's true love right there like you guys accept each other for exactly who you are and you shouldn't hide anything but it is weird like when you think about marriage like that you're just setting up the situation where they could just sue the out of you and take that so much of what you have at a certain point that is crazy but i mean can you do like a sign where like you guys just prenup yeah prenup we do have a prenup that limits what could be done yeah like if i were to get married monday that's what i would do i'd do a prenup unless he's rich how much does that matter to you do you need a guy to be rich honestly yes i do because i don't want to date a guy that i have to pay for everything because it's just like you know it's not a good feeling to pay like for a guy i i've tried talking to guys that don't have that much money and it's just like it doesn't end up working out like i want to because like i'm like i don't care like if the guy has money or not but then it just bites me in the ass because then i'm like catching myself paying for everything and like it's just kind of annoying like it's it and it makes me feel masculine you know it makes me feel like i'm not feminine because like i don't listen i don't mind like buying stuff for my man i don't mind spoiling him um but i would like to be spoiled back and if he can't do that then like and if he if i want to go on vacation i'm like oh i want to go to cancun tomorrow and then he can't come because you know it's just like oh like i can't even travel with my man right because i've seen that dynamic with like certain only fans girls that i know where it's like they'll have a boyfriend they're totally locked in they seem like they're perfect but then the reality is is that that dude has a regular ass job and you know he probably feels like it's a pretty good job but maybe he's making like 150k a year or some like that and then the girl's making 150k a month and it'll seem all right for a while but then at a certain point it just seems like a lot of times the girl gets kind of frustrated with it because it just doesn't feel like they're operating on the same type of but it's like i don't know like the problem is is that a lot of times those girls want the kind of guy who's kind of like free to hang out with them and do all this cool and that a lot of the guys who have money whether it's like a businessman or a content creator or a streamer or whatever are some of the busiest people i personally would prefer my man to be busy because i want to be busy too like i think we should both be hustling we should both be trying to achieve our goals our careers and we shouldn't um like distract each other from what we want to do but on our free time like let's hang out you know like let's work really hard let's go on vacation when we do have free time but we shouldn't spend every single hour and day by each other's side because i feel like then you don't even get to be yourself like you're just like you you are you it's just you two like not even you know you're not you're you just don't have an identity anymore like you're just part of like you and your boyfriend like you guys are always together you don't have anything going you guys are just with each other it's like no like we should both be able to do whatever we want we should both be focusing on our careers because what if it doesn't work out you know what if it doesn't work out and we spent all these years all these all this time on each other when we could have been focused on our career you know it's like i don't know but do you ever worry that you're like too focused on your career and that maybe you're not thinking enough about the joy that could be available to you through motherhood to be honest no or just family in general i have i have a family i have uh my mom my little sister my three my two nieces my one nephew my brother my sister-in-law so they bring me a lot of joy into my life like that's my family and like i love hanging out with them i love hanging out with my friends my friends bring me a lot of joy too so it's like all the love that i'm looking for i have like i have the maybe not like a a relationship love but i still have the love that like i i feel i feel good enough with the love i have right now okay you know like it's not like i feel like I'm missing anything yeah like it it would be nice to have a partner like don't get me wrong I would love to have a partner like it would be amazing like oh like I'm sharing like my time with this person like we're together like he's there for me I'm there for him but it's like it's not a necessity for me um I feel like I have this memory of like going to Mexico when I was maybe like 22 or something and just realizing that the girls in mexico live with their parents until they meet a guy that they want to marry and they get married and that's when they move out and i just thought that was so crazy because like from my perspective almost everybody that i know moved out by the time that they were like you know 20 or 21 or something which even that seems kind of old school because now i feel like it's so much more expensive to move out of your parents house Well, I got kicked out at 18, so I don't live with my mom, but my mom lives with me.
25:44Oh, okay. Yeah. But, yeah. I just feel like that's, like, it's kind of interesting to think about, like, how somebody like you have an ad opinion about, like, not even caring about in a relationship. It's, like, in countries where they maybe have, like, less disposable income, getting married is such, like, a survival strategy as well, you know? It's, like, just, like, cheaper to make it through life if you're going to be, like, living with a dude. Yeah, I don't know. That's I personally wouldn't like want to live my life like that. I don't know. I just like just depending on a guy to take care of me.
26:17I feel like I would just be so depressed. Like, first of all, I don't think there's anything wrong with girls that do do that. Like I like I said, I think we all live very different lives and we all have different interests in life. But my interest is not like wanting to depend on a man and like just sit like there's girls that are OK with just cooking and like doing their laundry and like just being a wife. you know there's girls that want to be a wife that's cool but i i don't i want to do like i want to do my own stuff like i want to be a singer i want to i want to be a big like artist i want to enjoy life i want to travel with the world like i want to make a name for myself okay how did you blow up in the first place with my body okay like just posting tiktoks of just me dancing just solo you didn't have a manager or anything to start you were just yeah i actually went I went without a manager.
27:06I blew up by myself without a manager. Okay. And wait, where are you from? I grew up here in LA. Oh, okay. And so how old were you? When I first blew up, I was probably like 20, 21. Okay. And what were you doing at the time? Like what do you mean? Like in life. Oh, before OnlyFans? Yeah. Oh, before OnlyFans, I was a stripper. Oh. Uh-huh. You just started doing that like right after high school? Yeah, because I was a dish. Well, after high school, I became a dishwasher. But I was working since I was 16 years old. Well, 14 of you count me working Saturdays and Sundays. So you were working while you were in high school?
27:44Yeah. And so, yeah, when I turned 18, my mom kicked me out of the house. Why? We just, like, would fight a lot. And she kicked me out twice. Okay. She kicked me out twice at the age of 18. So I left. I got a job as a dishwasher. I wasn't making any money. I became a stripper. And then my mom was like, oh, well, you because when I got kicked out, I was living on a couch for three hundred dollars a month. And then my mom was like, oh, well, you could come when I became a stripper. She was like, oh, you could come back and like pay five hundred and I'll give you your own room. Because I was paying three hundred for a couch and I was sharing the room with my cousin and her boyfriend.
28:17And I was like, OK, well, yeah, I'd rather go back home and pay five hundred dollars a month than pay three hundred and sleep on this tiny ass couch. so then i went back home and my whole purpose to being a stripper was to save up money to become a streamer because my goal was to be a professional player i wanted to be a professional gamer so bad i love were you comfortable being a stripper because it just seems like it goes so against like everything that you've said about yourself like in terms of what kind of person you are i wasn't no i hate it that's actually what made me date a girl for two years because i was so turned you off to men that much just because you really see like a different side of men in the strip club too like the worst version yeah no it's it was horrible i did not like it i didn't enjoy it one bit and my goal was always just to get money to get like get my streaming equipment and like just leave after that which i i did get my streaming equipment and then i told my mom i was like please like let me quit like i just i know i could be big on gaming like i promise you like i'm i'm gonna go crazy with this like this is all i'm gonna focus on and it's gonna blow up like just trust me please and she's like no if you're not gonna pay me money and you're not gonna work like get the out of my house and i was like why is your mom so mean seems harsh yeah she was very very harsh but honestly thanks to her being harsh like i am the person i am today and it pushed me to work harder for things so and i feel like everything happens for a reason like yeah it was it sucked going through what i went through but i'm glad that i went through it what's your relationship like with her now um it's not great it's good but i'm just very distant with her like she tries to have a conversation i mean i get irritated i'm like why is she talking to me like it's just like i don't even mean to be mean to her it's just like she the way she treated me growing up like it was so bad that now when she wants to hang out with me or have a conversation i just automatically get irritated and i'm like i don't want to have a conversation bad like abuse or bad like just cold mentally abuse mental abuse and physical abuse yeah yeah was she on drugs no she was just she just been through a lot herself like she's not a bad person she just never healed and she took out all of her hurt on me and my my siblings but yeah i don't hate her for what she did i understand her i understand everything she went through and i understand people are not perfect and you know i understand that traumas make like hurt people hurt people you know so i i get her and i don't hate her but i just i get irritated by her and i still but i still take care of her you know like i i love my mom like i'll always have her around like i'll never cut her off but the things that she did like were damn yeah damn i'm sorry to hear that yeah but i definitely have known people who like that where it's like their anger towards their parent for like how they got treated as a kid just makes it so that they like are almost incapable of having a normal conversation with their parents because they just have this like built-in animosity because of how they were treated as a kid yeah i i i feel so bad sometimes because i would just be mean to her for no reason and like i'm like like i know i shouldn't be mean to her but I just get like irritated.
31:29Like I just can't control my emotions. Like it's like when she speaks to me, I just get so like, I just get built like full of anger. I'm like, Oh, like I, I don't know. It's like a, a resentment that I have like forever, but I, I'm trying to heal it, but it's so hard to heal it. Like that part of me. For sure. So, okay. You quit stripping and move in with your mom or no, or no. So then I, um, So she kicked me out. So I moved again and I was living. Well, I was without a home for two weeks, but thankfully my friend let me stay at her place. And then I got an apartment by myself. Then COVID hit and I was forced to stop doing OnlyFans.
32:11So I moved to OnlyFans. Stop stripping. Yeah, stop stripping. Did you feel like you were killing it as a stripper? No. Really? I wasn't. I was probably one of the ones that made the least money. Why? Because you were like thin in comparison? No, I was actually pretty thick. But I just wouldn't want to go up to guys. There was like a month where I didn't really make any money because I didn't want to go up to any guy. The girls who really win in that environment are aggressive. Yeah. Like I would sometimes go to a strip club and I would just sit there like literally do nothing. And I would just like just wait for for something to happen.
32:47And I'm like, maybe maybe I'll feel better in like an hour. Maybe I'll feel better in two hours. Maybe I'll talk to him in three hours. Oh, in four or ten more. or not like 10 more minutes two more minutes like okay i'll do it next song and stuff like that like and then once i really really needed the money i was like okay now i really do have to get up and like go talk to these what's going through your head doing a lap dance at that point what are you thinking about to disassociate yeah disassociated i'm literally like not even i'm just like i'm just getting my money i'm gonna do this dance and i'm gonna get paid and that's it strip club is so weird because it's like i've met girls who basically say what you're saying which is like it's like the worst experience of their whole life but they have to do it for money and then i've met girls who even after they get rich off only fans or whatever keep stripping because they just like the party vibe i mean which i kind of get it yeah like i said everybody lives very differently i personally hate it so much so i get surprised when girls do like it but it makes like everybody enjoys life differently so i mean if that's what girls do enjoy like fuck it go crazy yeah i mean everybody's different personality wise because like i'm talking to you and as soon as you said they used to strip i'm like what the because it just sounds like you would hate it no i did hate it i hated it so much but i needed money okay i just needed money so okay then strip clubs closed and then you start your streaming or you just start yeah i had been start my streaming stuff but i did start my only fans um and then yeah then from there i just kept doing only fans and i've been doing only fans ever since but did it just blow the up right away the first year i didn't make anything oh how did it blow up how'd you get five million followers which i assume translates to a lot of okay so income the first time like my my only fans made more than like it went over 10k the first time it's because i had gotten my boobs done and then after that like it just kept going up and up and up until it went over six figures and i was like oh like i didn't in my boobs oh also because i i decided to go fully nude because before that i wasn't showing anything i was like just doing bikini for the one year i was just only strictly doing bikini now i i'm i do only bikini again but i haven't done no nudity but i did do nudity for a few years but now like you can't like ever since i got my body done like no no guy could pull up a picture of me like fully nude because i haven't i haven't taken any nudity stuff and you're just more comfortable not showing full nude honestly i wouldn't really mind like doing nudity but it's like um it's just like if i want to go the artist route i mean i my nudes are still out there already but it's just like it's better if i just stop you know because i haven't done it for like two years yeah like two years now right so it's just better if i like fully stop and like all the pictures that were leaked or like that i did before they're old pictures like they're not even my they're not even my body now okay well what of like what is it like being a person who's not super sexual or whatever but you're selling this version of yourself to guys who obviously want to imagine you as a very promiscuous young lady well i mean i don't like all i care about is getting money to be honest like it's making money i'm doing it like i don't really i don't really care what people think about me i don't really care like but if you really only cared about getting money then you'd do full-blown porn like on your own yes right but no because that's not something i enjoy everybody's got their line that they don't want to cross yeah like it's just like honestly I would be down if I enjoyed it like if I enjoyed having sex and I was a sexual person like yeah I'm I'm going all in like I'm doing I'm I'm like I'm just doing it like is it you know if it's something that I enjoy fuck it why not like if I'm gonna make money off of it right like I interviewed a girl one time and I'm like why why did you start with fans or like what's your goal with fans and she's like to make it so my mom doesn't have to work I'm just like that's so depressing like knowing that you don't even want to be doing this and you're just doing it because you want to help your mom like even though i respect you doing that with the money it's like so much more of a turn-on when like you know that a girl's doing adult content because she's actually interested in exploring that part of her body or whatever yeah i just yeah it's just not something that i enjoy doing it's just like it makes money it it does good like i'm gonna do it but i wish i did look i wish i did like it because like i said i would do whole like full full hard porn if I did enjoy it but it's just like I like doing music like doing music makes like makes me happy playing my video games makes me happy like just I'm just not a sexual person for sure I wish I was I wish I was like I feel like I'm broken or something I'm like there has to be something wrong with me right I mean yeah it's like I think that like if you're born a sexual person or not has it's out of your control and it has so much to do with like where your life goes from there because i've like interviewed girls who are just like describing themselves from like a young age just being so promiscuous and i'll ask them i'll be like let me ask you something do you feel like you have a extremely sensitive vagina like is it easy for you to come and they'll be like yes and I'll be like I feel like that like explains it like that if a girl like really enjoys sex so much and it's so easy for her to get into it she's just gonna have like a different life experience most likely than a girl who like because that's the difference between penises and vaginas is that most penises almost all of them come in pretty much the same way and then when it comes to vaginas any guy who's really been around the block knows that these things are all different science experiments to figure out and sometimes you get girls who just really have a difficult time uh finishing yeah no i'm one of them i have a very hard time well not when i was in love when i was in love with that guy like i it was it opened you up yeah like when i'm in love like it's easy really that's crazy that could like think about how insane it is that something physical is that intertwined with like your mind yeah like my ex was the only guy that like made me come but do you think that was just because you have the mental connection yeah I was in love so yeah that's crazy that's why like I think so many guys like don't trust girls who do porn is that the idea of girls having sex for like a reason besides love over and over is like baffling and offensive to them i mean if that's the way you're thinking but like i think a girl should just like like i don't know a girl should just live the like everybody should live the way they want to and people should stop being so judgmental and like care about what other people are doing with their lives i mean i get preferences though like yeah but i mean i get why guys are weirded out by a woman having a lot of sex partners or whatever like i feel like that is like the most basic human emotion that a guy could have but i also feel like from a very young age i realized that it was irrational and stupid and that i should like unlearn that you know but now there's like so many dudes who have like big podcasts and stuff who basically tell dudes that this is okay like you're well within your rights to be disgusted if a woman has had sex with more than a handful of people and to me that is just like so stupid like you want a girl who's lived enough to know what she's into and isn't going to be curious about what's out there that's my perspective i don't think that like because like who's a virgin like like 18 year olds maybe like or like muslim women that are like refused to have sex till marriage or like mormon women yeah guys that think that they're gonna find the virgin are insane and you're definitely not gonna find them in the club in miami literally no and then what's crazy is that all these guys will be like oh yeah like i don't like these only fan these girls that do this and that but they're the same ones that follow all these girls they're the same ones that like be all like they're obsessed obsessed with these girls that they say they hate so much like they would do anything to be with a girl but like they want us be like oh yeah that is like they did it like but they love them they love they're the ones that love them the most but you notice that the same types of dudes weren't complaining when regular porn was like the only way to get porn because those are like companies that are owned by men owned by corporations that are producing porn to sell to the world and you really like when you think about the 90s like you didn't see outrage about porn from young men you saw outrage about porn from like the church or from like advocacy groups yes now they're mad that the girls are making money from it because now the women own it and those same women and you are the prime example those same women are like totally invincible against like any argument that any dude could make to them guys just can't like impress them or win them over easily because they've got enough money that they don't have to hear and it's like obviously as a guy like i kind of communicated earlier like this is bad like for men like overall like you know men have less power in this current social dating dynamic what i also find funny is that they will see only fan girls and they'll like shame us up like oh my god like she's an only fans whore but there is actresses and actors that you see on movie screens that do these sex scenes that they show as much as us but they're not looked down upon but they're doing the same thing but it's like it's not like a page that they're selling that they're doing it in front of everybody though they're doing the same thing that we're doing right just like different like I don't know it's just like people really pick and choose what's right or what's wrong but they really are mad that the girls are making their own money with benefiting from guys like yeah watching us like they like to like just how movies take advantage of like sexualization and they like to put this and that like how they did it in euphoria they did that with what's her name sydney sweeney yeah what would they do with her like they put a only fan scenes where like oh i didn't watch the new season yeah we watched it yeah yeah it was pretty good i forgot to watch but basically what she did like if you want to call me an only fans girl sydney sweeney is basically an only fans girl too because she did the same exact same exact yeah she like i don't know what's the difference between me and sydney sweeney maybe like yeah she's gorgeous but she's doing the same exact kind of content as me yeah if not more that's like the weird thing about it is that somebody like you gets the label of only fans girl and and you have to like carry all these assumptions that you're doing all this crazy meanwhile the types of girls that i'm around like my wife are actually sucking on only fans but like so like they earn the title or whatever but i feel like it's weird for somebody like you because you get like this assumption about what's on there but the average person is not gonna buy the only fans to actually investigate so you have to like have this assumption about you that's not true right yeah they automatically just assume like oh yeah she's she does porn she does this she does that and like even if i did like what the is wrong with that like let me let me live my let me let me live my damn life the way i want to live it right i feel like everybody should just like mind their own business and like let people live their lives as long as they're not hurting anybody or um themselves like it like why are people able to make why are men able to make money off girls from porn and all this other stuff but girls can't make their own money from their own stuff like because guys are only mad when they can't benefit from it but do you feel like this is like a common opinion amongst like a huge percentage of men like when you're encountering dudes and stuff that this is just something that they're like against or is it just some you see online i see it online like every guy that i've met they don't really care they don't give a fuck about only fans really yeah the guys that i like i've been around they're like oh yeah who fucking cares like they're not judgmental at all like they're they're chill see like if you start dating a girl like you you can't say right away that you don't like the only fans thing you have to fully get them wrapped up in your world to the point where then you can finally tell them no i want you to stop doing only fans i feel like that's what dudes do and i would say no you're smoking a big fat juicy ass dick and you need to get the fuck out my face smoking like a metaphorical yeah like a big juicy ass dick but like uh yeah but like that's what always happens with porn girls too is that they always just start dating a guy and at first the guy thinks it's cool that they're dating a porn star and then once they really start to fuck with her after like a month or two then they start to like try to make them like shoot with less guys or like not shoot with anyone or only shoot with me or whatever and then that just becomes like i mean sometimes the girls give in and then like girls have these like weird random stretches where it's like damn she hasn't been doing porn for like two years and then you find out like oh she got a boyfriend i feel like maybe sometimes it's like a controlled thing yeah of course and just guys like once they start liking her they're like damn you're getting gangbanged at work like that's i don't like that yeah you know which i get it makes sense um so wait you were in the bop house yeah well i mean that will pop you off did it pop i mean i had already three million followers before bob house and you got three million followers from what just posting pics video like tiktoks and stuff of that like just me like doing little dances uh-huh and stuff and along the way you're just making like huge amounts of money on only fans i guess and yeah i just like i don't know are tell me the number like what's the most you ever made a month the most i've made in a month was
47:16800k was this like during covid or this is later on later on what and not actually doing porn yeah no boring that's insane what did that i mean i presumably around that time you were doing that like or close to that like every month yeah that wasn't just some insane spike yeah no it went down now but it was that was my highest month wow what do you even do at that point like with the money like you don't have like expensive hobbies right no i just travel i just like about a house like i don't i don't really do anything crazy but it's just stacking up you're just saving yeah Do you ever think you're going to do anything with it?
48:01Or are you more just hyped to just retire at some point? I want to invest and stuff, but I don't know what to in yet. So I'm just waiting to see what I'm going to invest in, what I'm going to use my money for, because I don't really know what to do. With your money? Yeah. Do you have a financial advisor or anything? No, I need one. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like you usually get one of those around the time that you're making 800k a month. I feel like at some point you figured that out. There's nobody like pushing you to be like, listen, you got to talk to this guy that's going to tell you what to do about having X amount of dollars in the bank.
48:41Yeah. I mean, I have a CPA. Okay. That's a start. Yeah. I have a tax guy. That's good. But like, is there like a certain level of like depression that almost comes with having that much money doing something that you don't really give a f*** about?
49:02Not really, no. I don't really get depressed. I mean, yeah. The only things I ever get depressed about is like, oh, I don't feel like I'm doing enough with my life. I just want to be known for more and I do more. I don't want to just be known for OnlyFans, girl. I want to do, like I said, my music. I want to inspire people to be... I want to inspire young girls to not just do OnlyFans, to like want to do more like because i don't think i'm a good influence you know so i want to show the girls like hey like you don't have to go down the route that i went to like if if it's just for money like there's other ways and you know i do want to like pave the way like oh just because you did this doesn't mean you can't do this now so i'm so you don't think you're a good influence i mean like you think that just by making money off taking scantily collab photos that's kind of goes against being a good influence i mean i would say so i think like a lot of people would say so too like they like i don't know i just i don't want to be a like the only way i want to influence people is like to go after their goals to go after their dreams and the only way that i could show that like influence them to do that is by going after my own dream and showing them that it could happen you know but you want to prove there's life after only fans or just like you can do even if it's not only fans like you could just like go after even if it's a guy that never thought about like it's just even if it's a guy that's like oh i want to do music or i want to do this i want to do that like i want them to know like hey you could do this if you believe in yourself and if you put in the work for it like anything is possible in this lifetime and that's what i want to show people but i don't think like oh you should follow my footsteps because i mean i'd be doing some fuck ass like i don't you know i i don't i'm i'm not somebody like oh yeah do exactly everything that i do no like i don't know i don't like people just like being so like oh my god you have to act this certain way like let's say when i blow up uh in music like i don't want to change the way i am and be like oh now i have to act this certain way because there's people looking up to no i don't want to be that kind of influence like all the the only influence i want to do is just inspire people to go after their dreams that's it but other than that i don't i don't think i'm like this great influence or that oh i need to do everything that she does like i just feel like you're not doing anything that bad if you're just posting like little nudie photos on only fans it's just like so doesn't even register to me as like bad in any way even though i get the like other people feel that way because like people are always trying to hit me with this like trump card argument they think where they're like well how are you gonna feel one day what if your daughter does only fans and to me like when i think about the girls that i know who do only fans like a huge percentage of them are just posting like bikini photos and like again that just like really doesn't rise to the occasion of being some crazy to me you know like obviously like the decision to do porn is a very serious decision what would you care if your daughter decided to do porn in the future i would definitely advise her not to or like you know give her like a realistic portrayal of like what this is actually like but you know if she was an adult and she like really wanted to do it i mean at a certain point i mean yeah i'm sure your parents can't tell you what to do yeah they can't yeah so that's good that you're very like open-minded and you're just like you're like fuck it like i can't stop it and that's what she's want to do that's what she wants to do yeah i mean that's how we should be as humans like just accept people for who they are but it's like a little awkward because it's like she's in that sort of like weird age range where she's like doesn't know what she doesn't know one of the things that we do for a living and like you just wouldn't be able to explain it at this age so it's like that conversation is definitely coming but you can't even think about explaining it until they know what sex is and when does that happen i have no clue but like then at some point you have to like be able to say like okay well we do that on camera for a job or that's the weird thing about it too is that like at a certain point with my wife because she kind of just wants to like chill and have kids and it's like will we be having like a past tense version of this conversation by the time we have the conversation where we're like listen this is what we used to do oh but i don't i don't want to stop either i'm having a great time i mean if she's young like i don't think you're gonna have the conversation anytime soon and like yeah if she finds out one day be like well yeah like that's that's what like I think she'll be at an age where she'll like understand like you know when she finds out it'll be I feel like it'll be at an age where she like under like maybe like 17 17 there's no way 17 oh my god she'd have to live in a commune to not find out that she's 17 or maybe like 14 or 13 but like even that I feel like those kids when they're like 11 or 12 know what the is going on dude i mean i don't know you think she would ask you guys i feel like i feel like it's just something at some point it's got it's got to slip through yeah it's crazy though because like i'm i'm i don't give a i personally just wouldn't not bring it up i just be like oh definitely not bringing it up i just not bring it up no yeah like if they get older at the age of 18 i'd be like oh yeah this is what we used to do yeah yeah i honestly i think about a lot stuff like that too like even the drug thing like at some point she's gonna find out about drugs and like she's gonna ask me all about drugs i'm gonna be like i did all that i'm like yeah i tried a lot of those things like you know that's gonna be like a weird conversation to have but like i feel like as a parent it's your job to not tell your kid anything about the outside world really and then like as time goes by they start to find out and then they come to you and ask you like dude what the f*** is a Percocet and then you gotta tell them but you should never be the first one to tell your kid there's these things called perks they're bad they're gonna ruin your life I feel like you just what are you gonna do you're just gonna sit them down and preemptively tell them about that but maybe you do wanna do that cause otherwise they're just gonna try it I mean yeah I feel like even if you try to tell a kid like oh don't cause I've seen parents where they're like oh they were so against like for my example my mom She was so against me doing weed and all these drugs.
55:21And I started doing them at 14. I'm like, ain't nobody stopping me. And she would tell me, oh, don't do it, don't do it, don't do it. That's the crazy part, is that 14 is like, 14s are just doing whatever, 14-year-olds are doing whatever the fuck they want. No, they're doing whatever the fuck they want. I know this because I was 14 and I was doing whatever the fuck I wanted. I was leaving my house in the middle of the night. I was fucking... Me and my friends were getting hitchhiked by a random-ass car to take us to a beach. and like surprisingly thankfully we did not get kidnapped but that was dangerous you know like as a little 14 year old like why are you getting in a random people like person's car but like we were just like like there's a version of being 14 where you're like homeschooled your parents don't let you around like random kids like and you're just a kid still at 14 but if you go to school in la and you're 14 bro you're getting exposed to everything like honestly okay so when we're like the worst schools oh well okay so we've been shopping all the different uh private schools in the valley and like actually going to them and finding out about them and one of the biggest things that the parents say about certain schools is like bro like you don't want to send your kid there because those kids are like so grown up like those kids like people will be saying like bro those kids all are like doing drugs they've all got designer they all the girls know about like handbags and jewelry and all like basically and actually the school that i'm talking about is like where some of the kardashians went so like shouldn't be surprising at all but that's like a big thing that parents are trying to prioritize is like this school's culture is like more normal and the kids are not like that which obviously they can't really like control that yeah no the schools out here in california they are insane and like you will see little ass kids doing drugs at a very young age and that's insane to me yeah it's scary yeah and my sister went to school here texas and in texas and texas it was like better like they weren't doing that crazy stuff really yeah it was it's more crazy out here i'll believe that yeah in new york i feel like it's insane because everybody just hangs out together like as soon as your kid goes to like actual school you start to realize real quick like oh like the kids are the kid because that's the thing my kid doesn't have any social media she's not on youtube she's not on anything but as soon as she goes around the kids who are on youtube and she starts getting exposed to all kinds of memes and inside jokes and crazy you know no you know what's crazy like when these kids go to school too there's drug dealers out waiting outside to like sell kids these drugs like i know because i like i said i was one of those kids where i just see drug dealers outside like just selling us drugs or giving us drugs and like we're young like they're approaching you know it's crazy so i'm like yeah now i'm like thinking i'm like oh my god how many how many is there going to every every school like just waiting outside middle schools or just waiting outside high schools like trying to give these kids drugs or sell it to them or put other little kids to because there was a lot of kids that would sell drugs at school too see that's like the main thing i would be worried about is just that it's probably so easy for kids to just be bringing bags of coke and pills to school and just selling them to the other kids and it's like i i can honestly say that i did not know what any of the drugs were the whole time that i was in high school really i didn't know what coke was i didn't know about zans all that just because that was not like like i mean the fact that i didn't know about coke is probably kind of crazy but like all the pills weren't popular and back when i was a kid xanax when i was 14 i tried lean when i was like 14 or 15 weed um noz i like oh my god there was so much like drugs accessible accessible to me at that time it's crazy yeah like they're like why is it so accessible at such a young age yeah that's insane to me now i look back i'm like now i'm calm now i don't really like do it like the most i do is like weed and like i'll smoke i mean i'll drink like here and there sometimes okay but you don't ever have a drink and decide that you like finally want to get freaky for the first time honestly i've never gotten freaky off of like being drunk really you're missing out i'm i'm never getting like i'm not i don't get turned on like if anything like i'll go like run and like you'll drink and run drink run dance like i'll be like super like hyper like i'll just like be lit but like i will not get like sexual or like want like kissing somebody like it's the last thing i'd want to do i don't know that's like the one thing i miss about alcohol was like getting drunk and having sex for like a really long time really i've never i've never had drunk sex i feel like you need to live a little you gotta snap out of it you need to take some acid or something i've tried shrooms they were pretty cool maybe you need to do more was it a lot or like a little bit it was a little bit yeah but still i didn't get like turned on or freaky or nothing like i don't know it's very hard for me to even get like turned on do you think you're like a control freak huh are you a control freak like as a person are you like super organized and Not really.
1:00:35No? No. What's your gaming diet like these days? What are you playing? Well, I was playing Fortnite and just random games. I don't really play games like that anymore. I don't really have time to play video games. But before, I would play a lot of Fortnite. And I played a lot of Call of Duty games. Black Ops 1, Black Ops 2, Black Ops 3, Black Ops 4, Mono 4 1, Mono 4 2. And then I would just play shooting games. shooter games i don't really have time to play anymore just on my free time damn that dude dave blunts that was in here before he told us that his girlfriend that he was with that they met on fortnite really yes that's how i met my well we met on stream he came to my chat one day and like i was playing fortnite and that's how and we ended up playing fortnite and that's how he he raised me up by playing fortnite with me damn so that's like to the most closed off female on earth that's how you get through to her it's like honestly yeah the most organic thing that you could ever do that like you you know it's like a date but where you're like just doing it without any sort of pre-planning yeah like that was the like we so we played and that like we talked and then from that day we never stopped talking like we just kept talking every single day and it just you know like so i'm not against like creating connections like it's just like um it and to me like he just he he didn't like come off to me like oh i'm trying to get at you he's like oh like let's play so i'm like oh i want to play fortnight like i love fortnight and it was at the time where i wanted to be a professional player so i'm like hey like you need to teach me how to get as good as you and he's like oh yeah like let's play but that's what you do like that's like elite level riz is like you meet them on platonic ground and then you are able to escalate things to a relationship from there that's probably the best way to get at me like just being my friend first and then like you're like oh you know because i feel like i need to get to know a person for like as who they are because you never really know a person when you first meet them because they're going to be on their best behavior they're always going to be on their best behavior the first few months you meet them because you know they want to woo you they want you to like them yeah they start beating you a few months in i'm never gonna be but not you but you know just in general but like the abuser guys never like reveal themselves at first yeah it takes them a while you know so i really like to like observe people observe guys like okay like is this somebody i would want to have in my life is this somebody i would want to date like how are we even compatible as friends like are we compatible at all like you know i it just like you really get to know people when you're their friend and if you just go straight to just dating them i feel like you don't really know them that always worked for me is that i would just like I feel like especially okay when you're trying to cross the barrier of like just being a dude who a girl is feeling comfortable talking to you like which is the first barrier that you have to cross is like how do you even start having a conversation without her just kind of shrugging you off like you're a random weirdo like in order to cross that you just gotta get them talking about anything so like you know you just gotta try to like think of something interesting to talk about and then just go from there but you can't like so many dudes try to like start with you're beautiful and that is so bad because any beautiful girl gets told that all the time so it's not unique in any way and then also it kind of is like saying i want to you which is like the last thing that a girl wants to hear because they already every girl already knows that every guy wants to fuck them yeah to me i crave like that intimacy where like we're just like goofy with each other we're like we're it feels like that's my best friend you know like i'm dating my best friend so yeah if a guy were to try to get at me he would have to like be my friend first and like not flirt with me at all and like just like just show him like just be my friend like that but guys though i feel like a lot of guys don't like to go down the friend route because they get so like oh i need her to be my girlfriend now right and it's like or i need her to talk to me that way now and it's like no dude like if you just were to be my friend first like maybe it could have been different maybe we could have ended up like dating or something but a lot of guys don't want to go that route it's like a weird balance because you don't want to put yourself out there like you're just trying to be buddies and then she like automatically puts you in the friend zone but then at the same time like i think like a lot of girls you just can't do the like casanova sweep you off your feet type right away but then some girls you can like some girls like really want you to like hit on them and just be like straightforward about it or whatever that shit works with like a lot of girls but like then some girls it's just like you're you're a tougher nut to crack it's just like i said everybody experiences life different and the way i experience it is just like i like to really meet people and like get to know them and i don't want i don't want to waste my time because if i decide to talk to somebody i see myself marrying that person i see myself of being with them forever.
1:05:38So I don't wanna just like talk to many guys, many guys and have all these failing talking stages and they could be like, oh yeah, I had her. And I wasted my time on somebody that wasn't even in my future anymore. I'm very, like my time is money and like my time is very important to me. So if I'm gonna waste my time on somebody, it has to be somebody that's gonna be in my future and it's gonna be in my life for a while. But so you haven't had the thing where a dude like, I forget, there's like a term for it, but where like a dude pretends to like you you and then like it's totally full of the whole time i forget there's like a really funny term for it no that wouldn't happen because first of all i don't even believe men you just have perfect judge of character abilities yeah i feel like i could tell when a guy is full of and like i'll just pretend like i believe i'm well yeah yeah one time a girl told me that she required a guy to take her on 30 dates before she was asleep with him and i honestly was like you know what like if your goal is to figure out if this guy actually is into you then that honestly sounds about right because if a guy really likes you and he will do and like he wants you to be his girlfriend everything he will do everything in his power to make sure that he makes you happy and do everything that you require like if you set boundaries like oh no like i will only talk to you if you do this this and that they will if a guy is just trying to there's no way they're taking you on 30 dates and faking it right like that would be a real sicko that would be crazy imagine yeah taking on a girl on 30 days and then you finally and you're just like boom in your face oh my god you just gave me a like something to be scared of yeah that's scary that is actually that's some diabolical right there okay but the girl who told me that she needed 30 days before she would fuck a guy that night after we went to the bar we ended up back in my house in my bed and she ended up giving me like a behind the back hand job job like while we're like before we went to sleep wait what she's like like we're sleeping like spoon style right like she's like in front of me and we're sleeping in the bed like that and she's like reached behind her back and like jerked me off all over her back and then i think she like went to bed she was digging your butt twin no she fucking was like was jerking me off nothing but you said like you said yeah she's in the front so she reached around and back to my and wait wait i'm so confused what do you mean like you keep saying behind okay picture i was standing behind you okay cuddling right now and then look where your hand is wouldn't this be your butt no that's that would be my my butt would be like around oh so you're you're okay so your face the way you're faced i'm like nuzzling in your neck from behind oh you know that's crazy i just thought it like stood out they're like she required 30 dates to but but did she hand job the first night for free yeah that's confusing i mean that was that's pretty i mean she was a cool girl but she probably liked you and i was straight up with her like 30 dates is insane like i'm not really i'm not even close to on that you know you're like you're cool you're not 30 dates cool yeah 30 dates is i mean that's and that's fine you know there's gonna be guys that are not cool with doing whatever the girl wants and that just means that the guy is not for her and she'll find but she will find the guy that will that will take her to those 30 days my wife the night i met her and ate her ass which she had never done before oh shit period i mean every like i said everybody has different life experiences yeah but i probably wouldn't recommend that to the average girl yeah i wouldn't just let them crack first night i wouldn't just hope it works out i personally wouldn't do that but if people enjoy doing that then you know that's their life and they should but person like i said personally i i need to be in love with the person right so i even if i wanted to i can't like it just it it disgusts me.
1:09:47Like just thinking about a guy touching me without me like loving him. Imagine doing porn. Oh, imagine doing porn. You just got random. Yeah. That would be my worst nightmare. Just doing whatever. No, that would be like, that would be my, not, not that it's like nasty. It's just like, I can't imagine it where myself, like, I think it's fine that other girls do that. But for me personally, yeah, you're not built for it. I'm not built for it. I'm not. I feel like you kind of lost your soul at some point. From what? just money you just have too much money so now you're like no i'm less human no how i know i feel like i am human like i still have goals i have ambition like i wanna but you've like been taken out of the rat race there's something like distinctly not human about not having to care about money anymore well i'm not making that much money anymore i feel like you're making a lot of money not that much really oh wow okay not 800k yeah i'm not not like that was only like like two months okay but if you're not spending it then you know i still feel like you're probably i mean i spent a lot of money like for real oh so you're trying so so now you're trying to assure the fans that you're actually broke not broke but like i did spend a lot of money okay yeah it's nice to be a internet millionaire it is really nice to have money and because i especially growing up poor so is like your mom still in the hood no she lives with me oh yeah and you guys like don't get along that great um i mean we just like if i have if i'm dealing with stress or something like she's not the type of person i'll be like mom like i'm going through this like i need to talk to somebody like she's the last person i would talk to like if she tries to give me advice i'm like why are you giving me advice like why are you crazy that you're not trying to have babies right now she doesn't really like well like i said i really have conversations with her so i wouldn't know like i don't really like ask her for her advice i don't really talk to her about my business like if i were to talk to a guy like i wouldn't tell her like i don't know she's just not somebody like i don't even like i don't i don't tell her nothing like she's just like that's how she made our relationship be from when i was little like she didn't put much attention to me and she didn't really get to know me when I was growing up.
1:12:06So it's like, why does she expect the same from me when she didn't put that effort when I was younger? And I feel like that's the most important time to put effort into your kid. Okay. Can I get the Cliff Notes version of your time with the Bophouse? What do you mean? How long were you there? Since it started. Oh, so you're still a part of it even though you don't live there? Yeah. I mean, yeah. So it's not like a formal thing at a certain point? like was it at a certain point at a certain point they got to be like taking a percentage of your money right no we're all just like girls that like we all we all just put in money for this house and like now we don't have it but oh we like if we all hang out like well yeah we'll do content for the bob house we just live so far that we haven't had time to make content for it so it wasn't like it wasn't like a management company or whatever they came together and said we're going to create something about us it was just a bunch of girls who knew each other that yeah really oh wow yeah we're all friends and like we like sometimes we all pitch money to like go on vacation like they they all last went to the bahamas i missed that trip because i was busy because like i'm telling you i'm trying to do my music but the next trip we're about to do is oh wait i don't know like can we say the trip that we're about to go on i'm just not gonna say okay we're we're going on a trip soon the bob house the bob house yeah what do y 'all do when you're on a trip just do 800 tick tocks a day um well yeah we do tick tocks we do pictures and we do we do fun like we go out to like to eat we do activities um we just all just like have fun together and drink like we all just enjoy each other's company but we are very very busy individually so it's very rare when we all get together now last year we got together more often but this year we're definitely more like all trying to do our own thing um but we're still all friends and i think all the girls are very very amazing and i love them so much nice yeah well i appreciate you uh coming on i feel like we had like a very sort of random freewheeling conversation about all kinds of how long was that uh 115 115 damn i thought it was way longer than that me too i got high before this oh what the oh no no 1 13 sorry oh okay interesting damn i thought we're closer to two hours so time flies because i wasn't paying attention to the clock it did feel like a long time though i thought it was like two hours at least damn well hey time flies when you're having fun um appreciate you what do you want to tell them to check out check out my music um i'm alina Rose on Spotify.
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