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40:28Yeah. The price is wrong, bitch. The price is wrong, bitch. Bob Barker's crazy. You're a little sleepy. You smoke a balloon on the way here? That was a couple bad accidents right there. There's one right up there. Really? A truck blew up down the street. You crossed it? We drove past that. We was driving next to him. It was smoking like crazy. And then the truck stopped and it was starting to catch on fire. You are? You normally early? I don't know about that. I'll be here before you. I'm not going to give you that so easily. If it wasn't for plug talk, I will always be here before you. You only show up to that.

41:05He said you only show up to do porn. That's crazy. I don't even do porn on Tuesdays, like ever. That's a lot. Anyway, so I want to talk to you guys about the Almighty Suspect 24-hour going away stream. Did you guys enjoy yourself? There was a lot of hijinks. It was fun. How long did you go for? People are saying in the chat that you didn't go. No, I was on there for like, not to, oh, I didn't go to Almighty's party, but I went to the 24-hour stream. I was on there pretty much the whole time. I was in Vegas. That would have been crazy if I went to that and ran into Gina. Yeah. I would have tried to give her a hug.

41:41No, but I did catch an NFA flat, and that's why I missed Almighty's party, because I had to get my tire changed. No, like I was confused because, like, I went to say hi to her, and she wasn't like – she didn't seem too psyched to – Wasn't receptive. Oh, really? Yeah. You're so no jumper, though. I mean, like, you're very – you're adam-coded. You never said nothing bad about Gina. You got fired on the show. I don't think I ever said anything bad about her. I literally have not said anything bad about her. and it's so funny because like, and I'm not saying this is directly related, but I remember the time where we did a stream where it was like, I think it was some members only content and it was Adam ranking all the former No Jumper affiliates.

42:19Oh, wow. Putting them in tiers. Yeah, I wonder if she's seen that. She's probably a member. No, but we ranked her pretty high and I was speaking super favorably about her. Yeah, yeah. I think we gave her like an A, you feel me? Like we gave her like a super high. beyond s which is like the yeah no s was the top yeah yeah and i remember like i think i remember like flacco saying like oh like they did gina filthy they did gina foul and then like shortly thereafter she like unfollowed me but she unfollowed me a long time ago i don't know if she actually watched the footage yeah maybe she just got wrapped up in like people saying hey they're talking bad about you and i'm not saying that i'm not saying this is why she did it this was interesting timing they treat me like drake in this industry bro like i'm just fucking white and just like talk so toxic that like if you support me or no jumper that you're just like anti-culture well i mean like i think that everybody that was i feel like people fell under the a certain preconceived notion that when i think people are like afraid when they leave no jumper like oh i'm gonna be able to like i don't know like i mean what you're trying to say is that people just like can't resist the clout that comes from making the why i left no jumper video so a lot of people have to kind of like it's not even exclusive to no jumper they do that with every like they do but they do it more with us for sure or at least there was a time period where like to be an anti no jumper guy is like that that's like a home for you there's like a automatic like support system there the same way that if you're just like yeah i like kendrick and i like drake it's like okay you're in the middle but as soon as you say fuck drake drake is bad for the culture boom it's like you have all these comrades you can talk to screw face jean or whatever the fuck his name is on twitter you could like you know get a dj head retweet or whatever so it's like it's easy for people to like want to find their political home especially now that like uh hip-hop is essentially like politicized the same way our whole country is now we have the kendrick side and the drake side It's funny.

44:22It's pretty insane how that happens. Yeah, it was never really like that before. We never really had sides. Even when we picked sides, it was just for that one battle. And then everybody could kind of go back to, like, because we have 50 versus Kanye. I remember having to pick a side. Because you had to hold, part of them were one of the most prolific beasts ever, the East Coast versus West Coast. It was always sides. I think that was way worse than this is right here. But those aren't political sides. Those are geographic sides. so what political size you think of Kendrick you know Kendrick represents like wokeness elitism Drake represents like populism like pop music you know oh so you speaking on the MC's not their their followers I think that like the ideas they represent yeah the beef created this divide that is basically like on one side you have woke people who care about the culture people who care about hip-hop and then like somehow drake was painted as like not caring about hip-hop being purely about materialism and commercialism and as much as i think that that is a very you know well okay that that's how the kendrick side would represent the drake side whereas it feels like the drake side is more like pro i don't even know like it was like certain freedom to just kind of do kind of what you feel like i think it honestly it's like elitism versus populism though i i took it differently like to be honest a lot of people i know that was a part of the oh you know i'm saying gotta you know um when i say participated in this whole thing with kendrick and drake i think a lot of people at least that i know of we just chose a lot of people liked the kendrick but it was like just strictly west coast like i'm rocking with it once it got big enough you know i'm saying because i think i think kendrick has some drake fans and drake has some kendrick fans that like hold on this is bigger than what it is now he from the north now he repping canada i'm from i'm out west you know saying i think that's what he ended up eventually turned into i think probably started but okay in california yes obviously there's like this huge surge of like kendrick fandom because he him taking a w like represents all of california in some way sure but like outside of california you know if you're like a rap fan in ohio it's like they're taking sides too you know like you you almost certainly have like a side that you more closely align with and especially online in ohio they don't care about the west coast thing but to them you know it's like there's like ideas associated with each of them and like now hip-hop is so politicized and it's it's it's weird to like like i don't know if we'll be able to take a step back from that like maybe the the people at the forefront of it will change maybe it won't be drake at some point maybe it won't be kendrick but it feels like that the sides people have now taken it but it harkens back to like the 90s and the backpackers versus the shiny suits thank you you know it's really like that but it's just been given like new cultural weight like it's more important this is the modern incarnation of underground versus mainstream yeah jocks versus nerds yeah capitalists versus communists jay versus nas this mirrors jay versus nas like so identically that it's kind of you could throw jay versus nas and pock versus big into both of these contexts what i've seen the differences is like the the blackness factor the measuring blackness factor is the is the main difference because a lot of my homies like in norcal my black homies they rocking with kendrick just off the drake is the corny light-skinned dude you know i'm saying he's not really of the culture cut from that cloth kendrick obviously is kendrick is like represents sort of like the the identity that like black people have a particular ownership over hip-hop and then drake is more like representative of multiculturalism and the idea that hip-hop is so universal that not only is it not going to necessarily sound hip-hop because he embraces all these other genres but then also like you know he is part white he is part jewish he clearly like you know collaborates with a lot of non-black people whereas kendrick came to represent like pure american blackness i think that's the way most drake fans would personify it and i feel like um kendrick fans would be like oh this is a matter of culture versus commercialization yeah that's that is what they're sure 100 am i wrong spotty face no i agree with the last takes i definitely agree with that but yeah i agree with that the question is like what especially outside of california what kendrick does now because drake obviously this album seems to be massively successful and kendrick has always stood out to me as somebody who like just doesn't move on anybody else's time obviously that was kind of put on hold for the battle where he like showed himself to be a master of timing by dropping right after drake and whatnot but does he wait six months does he wait a year does he like do we get a new kendrick song like a week from now because that that also wouldn't surprise me if he just dropped something that was just like boom let's take the attention off of drake for a moment here and just make a big bold statement i don't know it's like he has to come with a monster of a fucking album after this to be to be to be honest and see that's the only thing about that i don't like with kendrick because what you said he's right he like he'd be on his own type of timing but i man i think he owe the fans like i but i i i truly feel anything he's dropping he's gonna drop i think it's gonna be a classic because he got all the time in the world like you know i'm saying i think he's gonna be a classic but i hope it don't be it don't take six months i hope it don't because i'm pretty sure he got something he got he album ready for sure it's been too long he has to be album ready traditionally he takes years between projects four to five and gnx was what like a year and a half ago or some I'm sure two years.

49:54Two years ago. I guess he is going to do. I think the beef speeded that album for Ariel for him dropped because he had the number one song. But also, I feel like they're going to be pushing him. Now the time. Go reply. You hotter than ever. He got to keep this going. You know what I'm saying? You could get probably two albums out of this. Drop a double album. You know what I'm saying? Or drop two. Quadruple album. Yeah. Whatever the case is, I think the time is the essence right now because just like everybody got out of Drakeway, it made room for Drake, I think right now. Probably not as to the statue, but honestly, I think if Kendrick come out with a project right now, within the next month or two, they're going to do the same thing for him.

50:34It probably won't be in this, because he's not, he's not, he don't put all that money into doing all the antics and this and that, it gets on all that by definition. Oh, they're going to put money into whatever. It's not going to be him doing it, you know what I'm saying? I honestly think Drake had a lot to do with his project. I don't think Kendrick could be like, yeah, I want the ice outside of here. he's not as flamboyant of a person in general but he is like he's more like oh I'm just gonna take 50 of the homies to go in front of the White House and take a pic you know what I mean like he's he'll make a statement it won't be as grandiose per se like but he'll still but I definitely I definitely think he dropped right now they gonna get out his way everybody gonna get out his way what y 'all think of like people saying like oh he emptied the clip in the battle like what else is he gonna say about Drake that you know kind of seems like it didn't stick with all the support that he's being shown now like is he going to have an angle you know what I'm saying there's one angle he could use for real I mean I'm never going to doubt Kendrick because he's like a fucking mastermind but that's kind of what the sentiment's been I mean if he emptied the clip Drake just reloaded it because he he answered him back like he said he started it all over so you know what I'm saying that's something and then now he dropped another project he could just critique that so what do you guys think in your opinion he ain't got nothing to say though yeah in your opinion what would be what would be an effective he gave him some more to say what would be an effective angle for Kendrick to take in the battle if he was gonna respond.

51:51He's gonna do more like you're not really black. You're a pedophile kind of somehow. Like what will stick, you know. Yeah, I don't really know. That's a good angle for that. It's like four people that came out already talking about he's stealing songs off the album and stuff like that. That's going viral as well. Like the rock rat angle. We need a song named Tinder, first of all. You know what I'm saying? Give it all free Chick-fil-A. You feel me? Because these dudes, no, for real, they'll do a song called because this dude is Tinder as hell. The whole Drake and Future shit all behind bras y 'all can have any girl in the world that's weird you know all these problems come from bitches do a song called tinder and have all the bitches you know what i'm saying shaking ass in the video and you know what i'm saying because they got niggas tinder also if he does that his career is over that's the worst plan i ever heard in my life i'll go to chick-fil-a you're not gonna like tell drake that he's emotional and have it land like he's the emotional rapper guy he's always been that and that's what people love him for emotional and tinder is two different things right but even that like this the idea that he was like hurt like of course he was hurt that's like to me that's the least effective criticism of the album is like oh he seems like aggrieved and angry it's like of course he is close to the angle that lush feels that is the only one i mean no it's a couple of them though like when you were innovated bro you could come up with anything bro i don't doubt that he can make good songs where he throws out drake disses but he'll never land a blow like not like us if you're I don't think that he really has a lot left to say.

53:17And they're really only like a couple of things really stuck from like us. Right. Yeah. It was just catchy and funny. And like, you know, I don't think he's just, I think a lot of stuff. He has some, he has some, he has some quotas. He has some notable quotes up in there. For sure. I just think today in Iceman era, I'm not seeing the PDF shit. I'm not seeing fake friend shit. Like it seems like it's past game and past. Well, like how he is, you know, you know, fucking up all of his homies. and that's why they all turn it on him pretty much. Whether he fucked a bitch or did him bad in business.

53:47That was kind of what they were putting on him. He still cool with 40? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. If Kendrick wants to do anything that would make any type of sense or be impactful, it couldn't even be all about Drake. But if he wants to acknowledge it, it has to be like, oh my God, dude, you're still fucking talking about me. Leave me the fuck alone. That's the best angle he has. Like you took the L. Why are you still fucking talking about this? He should be dismissive. Yes, very dismissive. Kendrick puts a lot of energy into Drake at this point. It looks weird. Because Drake didn't put out a whole anti-Kendrick song.

54:23I don't think they'll ever make whole songs about each other again. I think it'll always just be like some bars here and there. Because there was a lot of bars. I mean, Drake acknowledged him for the duration of that project. True, but it's not one big song where it has a hook that's like an anti-Kendrick hook. It's just like, hey, here's this one song. I'm going to rap about Kendrick for like four bars. and then I'm just going to go to something else. No, not like us pretty much. Was that the Monday show we were talking about there? Like drop the two years later project? Because it took two years?

54:50Was that the Monday show? You were supposed to have been done that. I think that was Tuesday. We definitely talked about it on Tuesday too. You're supposed to have been done that. I don't know what you did on Monday. I don't think he going to even really, you know what I mean, come back like everybody expected and try to really address it. So on the other side, do you think since everybody proclaiming on this album, three albums to be a success, Do you think it would have been... I'm not saying not to say that Drake isn't talented or anything like that, or he couldn't have wrote songs or he couldn't have bought any songs like this, but had he not mentioned Kendrick, the obvious, the falling out of his friends and everybody taking sides and stuff, do you think it would have been as popular or as successful if he would have did, which I want Kendrick to do, just to leave it alone?

55:30I mean, you could take out some of the specific Kendrick stuff and just keep it focused on, like, hey, the world... Like, if he had kept it more general, hey the world turned their fucking back on me but i'm still on top i think that would have like made people feel forced to give him a little credit of like look how grown he is that he didn't even talk about kendrick damier at all on this album but realistically like how do you go through the biggest worst thing you've ever dealt with in your entire career and then put out an album after like two years and not talk about it not talk about this guy who's had this like undeniably negative effect on your career that to me that would have been so fake and it wasn't one of his top five debuts so it's kind of a mute point you know i'm saying like a moot point like there's no real real like tangible reason to even talk about that because if he needed that i would argue like if anything he the the damage that he sustained as a result of the kendrick beef like yeah he might have needed to speak on that to offset that as a result but still this wasn't by drake standards an insane debut but that's just the state of hip-hop there's more credit to the state of hip-hop more than him needing a diss battle to get numbers.

56:38And finally, hip-hop is back on top for the first time in over a year. We have a number one song on the charts, and it is Drizzy Drake. Can I say this? Do we think, because you know how people move certain dates around and stuff, like when they drop and stuff like that. I think, like, for sure, even if people was in his way, I think he would have been number one, regardless, because the anticipation, you know what I'm saying, and the curiosity. but that's to be fair man they just nobody wanted to even drop in the same week you know what I'm saying so that's like he had a clear clear fucking freeway Lucky dropped into 50 ,000 Lucky's album's amazing I was like three four times Lucky dropped into 50 ,000 which is insane to do like almost 10 % of what Drake did I mean that's on the same day when everybody's only listening to that but I think what Spody's saying does have credence because there was a big drop off after the first day from the stream so a lot of people were tuning in to see what he had to say what he had to respond to they got all the drama out and then they they moved on yeah all of them are so good a big chunk of people at least you know the normies and shit that aren't super big i mean the thing is also a lot of the the viewership and the streams of that for of that album was going to occur on the first day because there was so much emphasis on may 15th may 15th kendrick's out gnx dropped out of nowhere didn't even have a complete track listing and features when it came out.

58:00It was a short album. He had features from, like, you know, a lot of the most nobody-ass rappers on the West Coast. No, they weren't even listed. It was not nobody. He put known meth users on the track list. No, but I'm just saying. I don't mean to tell anything. I don't mean that they're nobody. That don't matter. Okay, well, okay, but let's be real. You know, okay, when Drake puts Molly Santana on his album, I think we're all expecting her to fucking explode this year as a result. I don't think anybody who was on GNX had like a real upward trajectory after the album came out, right? Like Lefty Gunplay won a Grammy off of a song that was on that album, but that's kind of like, you know.

58:38There's been upward trajectories, yes. I think that Lefty and Chike being the two best examples. I feel like even Peso has definitely had an upward take as well. I would say they've been maintaining, I guess. but it's not the spike that you would see yeah that's not what you would expect winning a grammy from okay but again that's the only thing you say and that's just like the song on the album did good but that's still the album correct correct and i'll agree with that and i'll also uh but i will also say that shike has had an upward take in his career and he we haven't seen the insane uptick yet but we also haven't seen him drop his album i think if shike drops his album and it's anticlimactic.

59:18If Chek is the best example you got, then I win. No, no, no, no, it ain't. How do you pronounce that genre of music with the expanded Marachi? He used that Marachi lady and her life changed after that. All of these opportunities came her way. I don't even know what you're talking about. If the Marachi lady is the best example you got, then I think I also win. This life-changing shit is what you're saying. She went from the Dodgers game to... almost absolutely nothing going on. That was life-changing for her. Stun of Sandy going way bigger than anybody. And the mariachi lady. But, oh, girl already had a situation prior to this.

59:57All he did was put a cosign along with somebody that already has some motion. Don't you have something going on with Roc Nation? Yeah, definitely Northwest was cosigning her and dressing up as her for Halloween. Molly Santana. I'm talking with Stun of Sandy. Oh, Stun of Sandy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think Molly Santana was dropped by her label as far as I know. She was dropped by Stephen Victor. She's super viral right now. I think that Drake signed her to basically fuck with Pusha T, who's also signed to Stephen Victor. I think he views Stephen Victor as an opt for some reason. He signed her to A, fuck with Pusha T, B, fuck with Kanye, because that's his daughter's favorite artist, and C, fuck with Kendrick.

1:00:33I'm able to put on a Southern California, Los Angeles, you know, adjacent-based artist. Wait, Molly Santana is from around here? She is from fucking Fontana, California, in the Inland Empire. r.i.p. Chris King yeah exactly and the one of the main reasons why Drake is doing this is a show that I'm doing more for the streets of Cali than Kendrick just that's his intention am I saying that's true or not but there's definitely a big narrative amongst Bay Area people like hey Drake has arguably done more for the Bay than Kendrick a lot of the people on GNX a lot of people on GNX ended up in rehab one of them caught a murder charge um I don't know it's not great but but But to your point, I mean, that is a fact.

1:01:17I think that's not on Kendrick. I think that's only on the core and just they own work. But if we're judging each artist as essentially an A &R, I'm just saying that I have a lot more optimism about the artists that are lesser known that Drake put on his project, whereas I feel like we've kind of seen that... This one? Yeah. And we'll see because we'd have to tune in two years from now to see what happens to all the artists that are on Iceman and the other albums, but I mean, I just think Kendrick's... I mean, just the fact that Kendrick put Lefty on his album shows that he has a lot to be desired as an A &R.

1:01:55But I think it was more just like reaching out to... I don't know if that's true, Adam. You're looking at it wrong, bro. I think Kendrick saw a lot of food community headlines and thought, oh, this is a good guy to put on my album. If he had asked anyone here, I think we would have been able to tell him, like, nah, he ain't the one. I think that shows great proficiency as an A &R. He knew exactly how to utilize Lefty. As little as possible. And it was the biggest song on the album. Maybe people wouldn't have liked a complete verse or even a hook, but a bridge with four words at the end of the song, and guess what?

1:02:26That shit went up, and he won a Grammy off of it, so you can't really say. And he actually got a lot more spotlight on artists that nobody outside of this region really were hip to. That's what I think the main thing is, is like Kendrick's like no jumper. You can't blame no jumper for people getting locked up, but the communities that you're reaching into, people might run into those life circumstances. Right, but if we're judging them as A &Rs, I'm just saying, I think Drake wipes the floor with Kendrick. I actually think Drake is like the greatest artist A &R of all time. That's unfair to judge somebody two years after, and then he's, because to be honest, you have a point right there, because it's really not too much that we can go off of, because they didn't, like, I mean, to be fair, they really, a lot of them did nothing, so to just compare that.

1:03:08I think nobody in rap history probably has been like somebody that you could look to for like putting on artists more than Drake. Master P Gucci Mane. I was about to swore. Yeah, but okay. Master P Gucci Mane. Gucci Mane is a great example. Master P, I think not even close. What? The number of artists that Master P put on. I can name at least 10 of them. Bro, do you know how many people went platinum under? All of them was platinum over there. He had like a small splattering of artists who did well on his label. but I don't think you can compare that to Drake. If you want to look at the list of artists that Drake essentially put us on to very, very early, it's outrageous.

1:03:45And he didn't sign almost any of them. So you're including Lil Baby, you're including Black Boy JB, you're including a bunch of people that all he did was give a verse to. And that's all that matters. But also a lot of people, Drake does get credit for some people that had buzzes that were popping in the area and then he puts them on the mainstay. That's my whole, like, I get what I'm saying. It's not like he's developing talent, like seeing them, you know. I wouldn't put Lil Baby on the Drake. He's not. No, there is a lot more examples. But Drake is so not selfish that he put all these people on without even signing them.

1:04:15Now, you do have to admire the extent to which, like, Gucci Mane was able to get these motherfuckers to sign on the dotted line, even if a lot of them didn't work out in the long run. But, like, Drake just A &R of the century. And he's shown that from, like, his blog spot days. No, no, no. That would be, like, some selfless thing as if Drake's not benefiting as well. Like, he's getting awesome. Of course he's benefiting from it. Of course. Yes, of course. And also, Gucci didn't sign most of the people that he put on to his own shit. But he did sign a lot of them. No, but he didn't sign the Migos.

1:04:42He didn't sign, like, yeah, like, Waka was signed with him for a second. They both had the same management, a.k.a. Waka's mother. But, like, he helped broker OJ's deal. He helped broker Scooter's deal. He helped broker Migos, Thug, like, all these different artists that didn't sign to him. Thug doing the same thing right now. I think it's close. I'm sure it's close. It's not close. Gucci is great. Drake's way better. But here's the thing, and I love fucking Drake, but we're not going to, we can't, like, for the sake of hip-hop, misrepresent it. A lot of them didn't have no type of buzz. He just went and discovered them.

1:05:20Drake is great at knowing what's hot and being able to insert himself. But on a very underground level. I guess that's an A &R. But when you compare that to the average top-level rapper who seems like they have almost no awareness of what's going on in the underground or who's coming up like his predecessor correct and if anything like that the fact that that's kind of normalized is kind of a drake thing like i think drake normalized the idea that as a big artist you should be hunting for smaller artists to do song with songs with even if it's just purely to benefit yourself because being aligned with hot artists like i'm always saying that to artists that i fuck with i'm saying like do a song with this guy he's super small but like it'll give you a crazy amount of like underground clout and attention because of the fact that you're fucking with him 22 hell no you know way better than that you you're from the true school you're from the golden era you done seen it fool's been putting on their little homies from the beginning like no that is obviously completely different than what i'm talking about jay-z putting on memphis bleak is entirely self-interest somebody from your area i'm talking it's like you didn't listen to what i said what i'm talking about is doing songs with smaller artists who are hot and have buzz because it makes you bigger and hotter as a rapper but that is entirely different than jay-z trying to force memphis bleak on us for 10 years but they've been doing that same but what you just described they've been doing that forever too as soon as there is a hot regional record everybody is hopping on the remakes whether it's fucking little troy wannabe a bother or i can name fucking 500 but that doesn't really happen anymore right the person i mean yeah like it do yeah yeah gang gang but it's very rare and those are official remixes it's not people just hopping on beats people don't do that anymore he gave out the most cosigns out of california bro who do he 40 yeah 40 40 he's a 40 reach back a lot he'll hop on some shit for you unk take well you guys are you guys are doing it is a bit of an unk take it is no it's not a popular oh no no but you can come in no i was i I was trying to pretend like you were going to beat us up or something.

1:07:24Got another Kyle moment coming in. Jay Hood is in the building. We got a stool over here with a mic. We are not set up to have everybody have a seat here. But Jay Hood, how you living? I'm doing good. With the Hawaii drip. Yeah. I just had a long day. Oh, yeah? Grab something and just pull up, you know? Yeah. How you feeling? Feeling good. Yeah. Don't lean back too far. I think I'm going to cook your ass. There's more space if we move this side, right? Let's do that. Let's do that. Steven can you like help him move the chair over here On the mic and shit yeah Okay What up what up Fuck the mariachi lady Just kidding You gotta look into that story then you'll get a better idea of what I'm saying bro The mariachi lady Okay so the Okay we gotta get off this Drake Kendrick shit This shit old as fuck It's so funny too to call her the mariachi lady That's so fire Hold on but you know what I'm talking about Yes, I know exactly who you're talking about.

1:08:20Yes, and you're not super far off. I know exactly what I'm talking about. You're on point, Munchie, don't you? We talking about popular opinion, unpopular opinion. You feel me? Because he said that he 40 things are untake. He 40, he co-signed a lot of people. He hopped on your shit quick. Yeah, because he got paid. I think that's NorCal shit, though. I think he's talking more like. Who's Snoop put on? Snoop put on the whole fucking Eastsiders, Nate Dogg, Warren G, all of them. I'm just saying like okay but like in the last like 20 years Jabalok was ass bro Jabalok yeah but he still gave him a shot yeah yeah yeah you got to be talking about right people giving people a shot right yeah yeah yeah if we sticking if we sticking to the script and not moving our goalpost alright Jabalok but is he like a big rapper in your mind Jabalok would have been big if he didn't keep catching cases and going to jail I know I'm just saying that like we would not give Drake credit for Jabalok's career we would say damn Drake really dropped the ball with Jabalok everybody at home right now is like who the fuck is Jabba hey one of my exes video twerking one of my exes busted down in a fucking that's like a dope boy thing to say that's like I was saying you DMed Elise trust me I'm not proud of it Snoop gave Snoopy badass that death row chain and that was a pretty big move Munchie definitely liked that that added a lot to Snoop's legacy I like it I don't care Jayhood you know who Doughboy is yeah what do you think of him he cool he a character he straight you see when he got his titty jiggled yeah that was gangster definitely not like that lush coast on that lush was laughing I thought look bro at the end of the day I told Doe a million times just like I told him yesterday be funny hey you know what the conversation I had with Doe previous to the to the pod yesterday was because he's like hey he hit me up yesterday morning and he said that I could speak on this is the only reason I'm gonna actually He's like, hey, you think I actually have what it takes to make it over here in No Jumper, or should I just?

1:10:20That's some bullshit. Why are you? Come on, bro. No, air it up. Fuck it. Doughboy said it. He said it. Doughboy. Okay, because that's one thing that people told me. But you know that's not going to help. This is a thing you got to understand about Doughboy is that he loves. He got some titties. He loves to be the center of attention. Seeker. He loves being like. This is a dream come true to him. He wants us to talk about him all the time. So I don't think we should feel bad about talking about him. Yeah, he's loving this. He's got no jumper chatty so he knows. Yeah, you wouldn't do that unless you wanted motherfuckers to talk about you.

1:10:51We're going to be talking about him forever. I mean, and to be fair, Spody, just so you know, like so you could gauge my moral compass a little bit more fairly. Fair. Yeah, like I was actually, I told him before, can we speak about this? He said yes. So like he. Okay, so what happened? I'm not bleeding him. Preface guy. He said, do you think that I have what it takes to survive at no jumper? I said, if you could be funny tomorrow, he called me Sunday. So the day previous to yesterday, he said, I said, if you could be funny. And I said, come with a clip for everybody. Be on everyone's helmet. Talk shit.

1:11:29Roast. If you could be funny, then yes, I think you can make it years. If not, I would. Is he naturally funny? He is naturally funny. We haven't seen it yet. But he's funny. But in the context of No Jumper, he has not been funny. But when he tried out, he was. But it might be because he's being bullied all the time, but it might also be because he's just not funny. We don't really know. I had to explain to Ann. I said, bro, he was being funny, bro. Like, Ann looking like, why you worried about me? He's like eating pumpkin seeds and all that. You know what I'm saying? Like, he was trying to be funny, bro.

1:12:02So if you got all the Crips and the Bloods in the building, you got to scare the cracker joke. Yeah. I don't think it's that. Again, like I told him personally, I told him on the pod and off the pod, I said, bro, you came in hot, and then you came for the people on the Tuesday show, bro. Like, of course, you're going to draw backlash. And then I felt, I personally felt that he tried to pull a moose. Moose came in hot. He had the antics in the theatrics versus, you know what I'm saying, Flacco and then the boy rap No Honey, you know what I'm saying. But it caught, and he kind of blew up. I think that he tried to take that same, that same route and it just didn't stick the way it was because you like, you just rub a lot of people the same, you know what I'm saying?

1:12:47The wrong way. It's like, I called him a Jigga boot. I called him a bootlicker. I just called him a hall monitor. I called him Jigga alone. He's going down the line. It's like a racist term. Kyle said, everybody hates you. A Jigga alone. You know what I'm saying? Like you for the people, you're not for our people. You know what I'm saying? So he came in. But I heard his girl look just like you. That's not like his girl. That's a random, that's a fan we met outside the Wild and Out show. I swear to God, he just met her like two weeks ago. That's the head of his fan club though, for sure. She do.

1:13:24And her kids watch No Jumper. To be fair though, like he said off camera, to me, I think he's funny as a mug, but I think he should go to that. You know what I'm saying? He's either, you're going to be funny on Wild and Out and just come here to podcast or you gotta find your balance because you can't take on a persona like being a gangster or trying to just be challenged. But at the end of the day though, I don't appreciate the bullying though. To me, that's starting to get on my nerves. I really ain't feeling that. You ain't feeling the bullying? So what, the titty jiggle was too much for you?

1:13:51But you were getting on his case about it. But Cody Fates. Yeah, but I'ma sock his face up, but you know, that's in a boxing ring to me. Like Kyle, that's his name? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, Kyle to me, I just think he like, bro, you just did too much. Like at the end of the day, we all up here to do a job. But that's just my part. You can't make a person feel uncomfortable in the workplace unless it's really smoke. And then if it's really smoke, you're on fire. Kyle was wrong for that, for sure. You just go in the alley and y 'all handle it a lot. I understand. But you can't come in here with malicious intent because at the end of the day, you picked him.

1:14:21Y 'all picked him. So he should be mad at Kyle. Yeah, target at him. Yeah, target at him. Fight at him. You just come and throw some gloves at that nigga? Yeah. With malicious intent. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a fire moment. And buffers can't hang, bro. If you a grown ass man and you allowed yourself to be bullied, you deserve it. But your kids is watching you. If that nigga want to act like a bitch, let him act like a bitch. He engaged with me first, though. So mine was different. I kind of like what Jay Henderson was cooking right there. He engaged with me. His engagement with me, you know what I'm saying, was first.

1:14:53I done had no problem with him. You know what I'm saying? Like I said, he was a part of the competition and he just came in hot versus me and Ant. So that was different. That's probably why everybody bullying him because he tried to bully you and you can't. He didn't match your energy. You hear the insights? It's a sense. This guy's brand new. Because you try to come for somebody, and then now everybody on you. If you would have came cool, calm, and collective. Smurdy, how many times have I said that? I think you're trying to do what Moose did. Because Moose didn't come calm and collective. But he is stuck, though.

1:15:24He is kind of stuck. And it resonated with the fans. Also, he had a lot of hatred. but to me, he didn't rub the workplace. He has the mental fortitude to deal with that I don't even say hatred, but critique. Yeah, I won't keep running with the bullshit just because the fans is on my head. Even though he's wearing a fucking Eminem pyramid hat. He's going to do it in the cipher. I don't think you really care about how people feel. He asks, do you think I got what it takes? It don't matter if you got step up to the challenge. That's what I was saying too. Step up to the challenge. Nobody gives a fuck at the end of the day about none of that.

1:16:04But my whole thing is like, oh, yeah, I think Kyle was in the wrong for grabbing his titty. As much as it's a big, bulbous titty and you want to grab that titty. That's all we do not. You can't be grabbing his titty. That's all on this platform. But I feel like the fans might never forgive him for that. Like, that just felt like to me, like, that might have just, I don't know if he could. Dough or Kyle? I don't know that they're ever going to forgive him for that. That's a 288, bro. That's a 288. What is that? Sexual assault. Kyle should be locked up for sure. He said what? He was minors. He's the opposite of that.

1:16:44He's a senior citizen. You been to camp. You been to jail for a 288? Yeah. I think he went over. I think he did too much. And Kyle said that to me. Well, he let him. I don't know because then that means you got to be, now you got to be that, you got to have that same type of energy towards everybody. Because that was to me, in my personal opinion, it was unwarranted. It was unwarranted. So every time you piling with somebody, don't just do that to dough, do that to everybody that's on the panel then. See if you get them same results. You're going to have to. Because then that will make you the bully.

1:17:22If you don't have that same energy, if you're targeting, that's what makes you the bully. He won't. The newest person. He admitted that that's what he was doing here. He watching us. He's the weakest. I deserve. No. It is because he didn't go to nobody else. He wouldn't have did that to us. You solidify here. Everybody else is solidified here. Not on the news. It was other people that's, they regular, but it's definitely a rotation. They was in the same competition, though. They were in the competition. That's like, why not be mad at him, dude? You can't be mad at the boss. Yeah, I just picked a dude.

1:17:54He the one told him. Kyle was mad at me for a minute too because I voted against him in the competition. So why he didn't have that same energy towards you though? Because ultimately Adam That plays to the Spodey's point for sure. You can't be mad at somebody for trying to protect their brand. But what you can't. You got a no jumper employee that's going to jail in like four days and then you got one that just went to jail why you got to come for him like that? We're a dying breed. It's wide open. There's plenty of spots for everybody. Niggas going to jail every weekend. So you want to like, oh, I don't know.

1:18:29I don't know. I don't know. Going to jail again now. It ain't that he wanted. He was praying on the week, bro. He was praying on the week. That's all. And to shoot Kyle some bail. He I seen him apologizing off camera to Doughboy. Like I was drunk as fuck. That would have happened. You would have been bad. Yeah. Everybody would have got up on him. He went for the person who he felt like spotty could take. And then he say, I want your spot. Doughboy should have stepped up to the challenges. and what reaction? Yo boy said, why you calling me a bitch? I ain't calling you a bitch. Yeah, but you know what I'm saying?

1:18:58You know what I'm saying? That's a bitch comment. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. Nigga don't respect that. No, no, no, no. I know bitches that. You don't respect that, though. I know bitches that would be like, I got you, bitch, bitch. Yeah. Bro, that's like slapping somebody or fighting somebody that's not fighting you back. Yeah, no prayer on the week. We don't prayer on the week. Come on. At some point, I'm like, oh, all right. Never know, bitch. You keep doing that like, nigga, I don't even respect. You got to do that to somebody who's respecting like, oh, I respect that. No, you do that to niggas in your hood.

1:19:21You chest-tight niggas who you ready to run off. Right. If you in a work environment, you're supposed to come to work. We here to work. To me, that was just he just crossed the line. But he working with active gang members. I mean. So to me, Dope Boy is not an active gang member, so get up to active gang members. He's a blood. He's banging his blood. He said he a body from her part. He said Mazi put him on. He said he from the P. from Oak Park in Sacramento. Like I explained yesterday, right? Mazzy, you got to get on Doughboy. He making the pee look bad, Mazzy. Mazzy, get up on him, tell him to keep the pee out his mouth.

1:19:57He got a brother that's the blood that's incarcerated, and he went to church in Oak Park. That's it. And he went to church in Oak Park. He said he was outside. Doughboy for sure telling girls, he's like, yeah, I'm basically a blood. I'm low-key about it because I'm in the industry. Man, he ain't lost. I know he said that shit. He said my name Doughmazzy in the head.

1:20:21that's why everybody say you a North day yeah that's why they put that on me George no no no no I'm not a North day I'm from Sacramento that's what they say you don't gangbang I mean you're a North day it's just like but he's got like 20 years between him and even if you don't gangbang you're a resident yeah that's what they put on me for sure. Sakra. Sakra. Yeah. Khalifa. Come on, dope boy. We're going to need you to stand it up. It's Friday. Yeah, I'm not agreeing to that. I'm not a Norte, you guys. I'm not a resident. None of that. You're not. Yes, he is. No, I'm not. Technically, by California politics, you would be considered his high key in jail right now, what you going to do?

1:21:01Right in Northern. Put me on the 50-50 yard. Oh, my God. Yeah. He's going to be at GBG. GBG's crazy. You go to the county, this is what you do. He's paying taxes to work with a ponytail. They're not going to take me out to speak Spanish, though. No. He might look like Carlton right now, but remember when he pulled up on what? When he was off. Paisal's road. You just got to have that. You suck at Paisal, we all fight. I'll put a kufi on, go Muslim. Oh, hell yeah. I got Moose X on him. Moose X. You're going to be other. I can't complain Muslim in the county. Roll others. Say you're Honduran. Roll others.

1:21:44You know that, right? Yeah, yeah. I'm just saying. Say it to prison. Say you're Mongolian and roll others. Yeah, not in county. Definitely not in county. Not in county jail, but prison. In prison. Say you're Filipino and roll others. Every Muslim gang, Megan, they still rock while they own me. I'm going to be like that white tweaker. I'm going to be claiming y 'all in jail. Like, I know Munchie B. I ran others. Ain't going with families. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I ran others. Like, I ran down on me and out. That's the logic. You say you know me, they're going to probably ring some pay. They go back me out And that bitch I said I know any of y 'all They're like I'm from Munchie B Like that guy Yeah yeah He was like begging Baby shooter Like it was a gang A one human being Yeah shooter Gang I'm from shooter Want that water?

1:22:20It's big members In that county jail Banging gangs That they the only one That you gonna ever run into The SEALs Yeah yeah yeah They the last one The last of a dime I might just start a gang When I go to county Like um Drink Drink Drink He won't even drink water Cause I told him to drink the water Fuck that What's wrong with this guy? It's bullshit on, man. It's the second time in the park where you got this bullshit on. Man, shout out to the Who's Who's. Shout out to Who's Who's. Hey, it's a Nozark. My boy Braves, man. Nozark. He got his crack out turned on. Nozark's on. All of a sudden, it's just shout out to the Who's Who's.

1:22:52I paid for this. That's why I'm rocking it. What did you just say? And you were just climbing it. I was wearing this shit in front of Spencer Pratt, who's about to be the mayor. Yeah. So now Spencer Pratt is banging Who's Who's. He's kind of on his Nozark shit. He's trying to get rid of everybody. Hey, Karen Bass is a zark. Hey, do you want to go to this fucking little known fact? You said Pratt rocking who's who's. Well, he was sitting next to me and I was rocking it, so he was basically rocking it. I was about to say, I know LA resident, I can't vote for him, but he definitely would have lost my vote.

1:23:19Yeah. That's hilarious. Don't worry. You want the whole Inglewood to vote against you, huh? Nah, he ain't. Inglewood, our vote don't matter with that, with the mayor of LA. You guys are your municipal. Y 'all voted for Dajon. No. Hey, that didn't land, bro. That's not good. That ain't good. Y 'all jokes is giant shit. Damn, he's putting you in the Doughboy bucket. Whoa! Don't go me like that. That was a little extreme. Look, like I explained to them, Doughboy got a Seinfeld sense of humor versus like a Dev Jam type shit, right? So when it get critical, like, oh, boy, it was like being real, like, you know what I'm saying?

1:23:54He couldn't really shoot back. Friends. Yo, that was what was mad funny. Free bank theory. Is that, okay, when Kyle said the Doughboy looked like Pinky, that shit hits so hard and when and then Doughboy said you look like an Uber driver crickets it's like that's not pinky name say it yeah cause she doesn't have loose skin like him but oh my god pinky big as hell today though oh she's huge yeah yeah pinky big gigantic so he like pinky today 2026 she don't got flaps hanging down like Doughboy though so we can't say I seen pinky in 2009 she was getting big then but I still she got way bigger she likes to eat for sure she's great whatever to have her.

1:24:33Shouts to Oakland, California. So she in a BBW genre now. She do porn, huh? Yeah. She's the first BBW in the... I don't think she do real porn. I think she does those OnlyFans and she pulls up to porn conventions and shit. Still? I don't think she does porn. She's got a link up with Pinky. She a goat. Yeah, Pinky a legend. She's the original throat goat. How is she a goat? In what way? Pinky's a goat. We was jacked off the herd when he was 9. Yeah, when I was 8 years old. When he was 9 and 10. Never donated a grandma cum to Pinky. You guys are jacking up to weird shit, bro. Well, Pinky was fucking bitches with strap-ons.

1:25:06That was her dick. That's not me, dude. That's not your preference. I'm not going to drag her up to some fat shit. They didn't even have that in Nashville. She was not... I mean, I don't know what she is. She was pretty big back in the middle. Do you watch black porn, Adam? You watch black porn? No. No, I'm just... That's why. I was off the black porn for the show. That's what I'm saying. I don't know what she looked like today. I mean, I'll watch... Like, sometimes I'll watch a black woman have sex, but I don't watch, like, the genre of black porn. I'm not on Ghetto Gaggers. Ghetto Gaggers. It's like the biggest black porn site.

1:25:34Ghetto Gaggers, that's an amateur black porn. Well, it's fucking huge. I mean, that is white on black. Eating wet. That's the whole website, right? Yeah. Spodiface about to go. Anybody go, Ministers, Spodicon, your ass. You want me to pull it up, but a black one, we can scroll through it right now. You want to look at Ghetto Gaggers? I'm like, oh, that's actually where I'm saying. All right, go in. I mean, what's the biggest black porn? I had it loaded up for a minute. Isn't it like racist white dudes? Yes. Are they racist? I don't actually watch it. They be calling the hard R and shit. That is an interracial racist porn.

1:26:07Ghetto gaggers. They're the ghetto gaggers. I never heard of that term. Borrowed of it now. That is like what I... I never did either. That is what they call... What do we call them? I stumbled across it a couple times. I think Tiana Trump was on ghetto gaggers. Ghetto gaggers. I mean, racial stuff does very well in porn. Like it or not. What is that called? Like a kink or some shit? Oh, yeah. Would you be into that? If you had a white chick who wanted to call you the N-word while she fucked you, would you be down? Every white woman I ever had to do. I know black dudes who demand that of white women.

1:26:41Call me black master. You like that? You like the right split? I fuck with that. Fuck me, black master. See? You really do like that? No. That's what they wanted to do. No, but do you like that? No. I like pussy. But you fuck white women, right? Yeah, of course. And would you have one? I don't have no type. I like beautiful women. But you wouldn't get turned on by her calling you an emerald or anything? Because, like, that's, like, a kind of common thing. That's crazy. I'm going to fight her brother or fight her daddy. If a bitch said I was beaning out right before he fucked, I'm going crazy. You got to be out.

1:27:08Yeah, like, oh, Moose, you beaning out. I've never been, I don't know how I'll react because I've never been in that situation. But. That's like, that's like, if you liked it, you would already know. You got to be a down-ass white bitch. That's like, that's like you fucking, I wouldn't care. That's like you fucking an op, She dissing your hood, though. I've done it. Oh. And you told her? You called me the C-word? No, hell no. I don't know the C-word. She dissed the hood. We supposed to do that. You know you know. You supposed to diss them. That's that slow-way bullshit, bro. Bro, no. I was dealing with an op female, and this bitch found out where my girl stayed at, and then she was dissing the hood.

1:27:45Like, you bitch ass, wootty-woop. I'm finna bust all the windows out your car. Not doing sex, though. You bitch ass. That's what I'm saying. I'm not doing sex. She's all - No, that's what we're talking about. I'm ignoring her. Man, that bitch. Enough for her to talk about. Eat. Spodyface would never do that. Spodyface would never make the like, I'm sucking cock noise for comedic effect. That's why you got to open up like him a little bit. Take some notes from J.I. Open up. Not only that, though. I'm secure with my sexuality. I know I like women. I like gangsters. I love that sound. Let him come sound.

1:28:18Let him come sound. She's earning this shit. He did the song, and he also emulated the rubbing balls maneuver simultaneously. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the same style when you brush your teeth. Yeah, it ain't no difference. I make myself gag when I brush my teeth a lot. You probably blow the brush the back of your tongue. I get in there because I love brushing my tongue. My tongue, when I brush my teeth. I hit it with a tongue scraper. No, it's a tongue scraper. I don't do that. I want to circle it. You didn't look my back of the tongue, though. Yeah, yeah, no. You got to clean them all. When you purposely making yourself gag, you're working on your gag reflex.

1:28:47No, yeah, he is. No, I don't suck cock, bro, you face. That's definitely what you're talking about. In my opinion, when you make yourself gagging, you brush your teeth, you're getting that mucus out. Yeah, you get all that phlegm and all that extra shit out. You're getting that phlegm. I got phlegm all throughout the day. You ain't got to. So you purposely make yourself gagged? I'm brushing my teeth, and I'm not thinking about no sexual preference because I only think about sexual. Adam is when he brushes his teeth. Ghetto gaggers. He's scrubbing his tonsils and shit in the bag. That ain't good.

1:29:14We got to start ghetto garbage, bro. Ghetto garbage. No, you guys. No, stop. No. You guys don't get it. We G-Box babies, we are not musicians. Man, that's all, bro. We're Spodee, baby. We are not musicians. Yeah, it ain't. It's terrible. You should interview Pinky. Free bro. I tried. I DMed Pinky before I seen it. I don't know. But Spodee, make that happen. I used to jerk off the Pinky a lot. I ain't got that type of juice. That was used to be. You're probably one of her top spenders on OnlyFans. I mean, I ain't never spend a dollar on OnlyFans. That was back when, you know, the Pornhub and all that type of stuff.

1:29:48I ain't gonna lie. When I was in prison, I spent money on all them bitches. It's free online. We in prison. No, I'm talking about I'm on a FaceTime. I'm paying for the FaceTime. Okay. I'm in prison, though. That shit ain't nothing. GFE shit. I'm in prison. They don't know about Jada. 200. 200 for 30 minutes. I'm going to subscribe to Ghetto Gagger so I can give y 'all a review. A review? Yeah, because I don't actually know what their content is like. Oh, I do. No, the ghetto, you got to go to like, this is not helping the racist. Is it that racist? I'm going to find out if I support him with money.

1:30:21It's racist as fuck. I think they wear Confederate flag shirts and shit in it. Nah. They're probably not real racist then. No, they're acting. They're just getting into character. What we need to do is we need to make our own website where we reenact how Thomas Jefferson and all them other slave masters was fucking they slaves. You know they was doing all weird. You know they was getting saved by them slaves. They have that. I was just thinking. I'm a Jefferson, buddy. You can walk by a dog by Sister Patty. All right. No, no, no. This is a question. What if a guy is just into like Civil War reenactment porn?

1:30:55Do they have that? In order to be historically accurate, certain people are going to be in certain roles, right? You never jerked it? Yeah. Come on. Civil War porn, J-Hood? You never beat off a Civil War porn? What are you? Vanilla? That's vanilla, man. I just did 11 years. I used to jack off to black and white pictures. J-Hood, I'm just very aware. They don't even got the Showtime porn in there? Stop trying to relate to him. None of this is in... He's trying to get a new big homie. Look at this. Look at this. He want to be from Carson now. That's you. In prison, people is smuggling in porn. I know everything about this guy.

1:31:27Yeah. People is smuggling in porn. In what form? Man, they have sent a thousand pieces of paper with four pictures of some naked women in there just to get it in. Okay. It's going to be black and white. Mix it in. Yeah. And then they're going to sell it for$50. It's real. You got to really understand. Man, CDC and LASD, they do. They're going to say you're giving up the game, man. You're giving up the game. Yeah, I'm giving up the game. No, tell us how you beat off. Let the Gooners goon, bro. Yeah, yeah, we got a goon, man. We get the flex, you know what I'm saying? You got to make sure they use magic marker, man.

1:31:58Put that over the Oriola and all that little shit. Because that's a... Oriola? Areola. Yeah, I love that. I love that. She's amazing. I'm going to name my daughter Oriola. So tight. Smudge that garb off. I used to have a girlfriend in the Oriola. She got to be mixed. She got to be mixed with Ariella. But I think they might have got more stricter and shit with these photos. I don't know. Man, when I was in the county jail, nigga, I had USBs. I flooded that bitch with USBs. Everybody got to see real porn. You know what's so weird, though? Because, fuck it, I'm giving up the game. The police was the ones that was loading up our USBs, and they had all anal porn.

1:32:31The white cops had all anal porn. I love anal porn. That's what I like, too. I'm way more into anal than vagina. Yeah. Yeah, well, in terms of porn, I'm trying to see some anal porn. The cops did. A booty bandit. Dead homies. The fleece Johnson. Dead homies, a booty bandit. Dead homies, I'm fleece Johnson in it. Fleece Johnson's cold. He's cold? He's cold. Do you respect his work? No. I was proud of him. He's doing the devil's work. He's a legend. Somebody's got to do it, J.H. Somebody's got to. Somebody got to fuck these punks, man. Hey, you done had no gay jokes during that. how you say his name?

1:33:11Spenna Pratt? No, Fleece, Fleece, Fleece Johnson. You were serious with him. He was trying to rip me up the whole time, bro. I thought he was going to joke too. I was trying to laugh. No, I'm not really going to joke the whole time with him. He said, Adam, you used to have blonde hair, huh? He used to say, yeah. He said, hold on, wait, how you know that? He said, mm. I'm like, what the hell? That's crazy. He Googled me and found the whole blonde pics. He want blonde Adam cheeks? It's crazy. I'll give it to him, man. He was very normal during that interview, bro. Yeah, he was scared, bro. He was scared of police.

1:33:37gay nigga in front of you all the gay jokes went out the window oh god but i'll be talking to people that told me that off camera that fleas johnson like basically says that he's like not on any of that shit and it's just all cap yeah that he's still like he's but he hypes it up like for content he'll like act like he really gonna fucking do it yeah a booty bandit of course you can say punk you can say you can't just stop being a punk you don't i think you can you ain't supposed to say the f-word oh sorry that's dogger no that's derogatory towards the gays no you're right yeah Just from a YouTube monetization policy, we should just let you know they like to be called punks.

1:34:12I'm a punk. Green Day. They don't like to be called anything else. Yeah, punk is like PG-13. Yeah, the gay rappers be saying that. You know what I'm saying? They repping it now. Is that like girls like to be called sluts? You call me a slut, daddy? Baby Chief Do It, you think is a punk? What the fuck was in this last video? That's a swag now. You tap there. You watch it. Underground Rappers, huh? Yeah. Ain't no fucking... Like on the internet. I didn't think you would be a baby cheap do it rapper. Did y 'all just see that clip? I'm not a baby cheap do it. He is a good clip. Oh, okay. Did you just see that clip where the boy from Chicago said, like, oh, LA is super nice and he don't know about no gangster shit that took place in LA?

1:34:49Who said that? Some weird nobody knock me. Where'd you shit? It looked like they was, like, in a mall or something. Something like that. I definitely see it. Hey, let me say something, bro. Or something. It's just... Everybody's culture is just different with this gangbanging shit. This gangster shit or street shit, right? because the Milana dudes think it's a good idea to try to trick the police and spin the police. In California, we don't, we talk to go to court and just, I mean, you got to shut the fuck up. Shut up. Okay, then you got these Chicago dudes that is, they can tell. No, roll it up.

1:35:20They can tell. King Von said he was gay to get moved to another section of the jail. He can't do that. I can't do that. You can't get your ass off. I have to sleep around 20 neighborhood crips. You know how hard it is trying to get some shit on? No, I have to be on the yore knowing I'm about to get removed. I have to be the whole yard knowing I'm about to get my ass whooped. And you know what? I'm like, damn, because I just got to go to this yard, bro. But when the Chicago dudes say this, though, I don't think rolling it up is gasty. You got to take whatever come with this shit. You got to bend inside neighborhood modules, East Coast modules, Damu modules.

1:35:50I was in a Damu module with Tiny Munchy. On the dead, it was seven Crips, 40 bloods. And we having lineup sessions. But you can't roll it up, though. Chicago dudes, it's cool for y 'all to ball it up. I guess. Bro, Big Mike. You got a grudge against him, huh? No. He brought him up in that interview yesterday, too. Yeah, because that Chicago nigga talking about, oh, I ain't never seen no gangsta shit in L.A. Bro, y 'all biggest, most prominent rapper was King Von. That nigga was, the whole world know he told on King Von. Nobody never did nothing to that man in or out of custody. But people are telling out here, too, right?

1:36:25I mean, that's on the dead use. And nobody's doing anything about it? If you in a county jail or any California, if you got an allegation, they're going to jump you off an allegation. Right. It's going to be bad for you. Or if you don't, if you don't get jumped, your homies is going to come and have a stand. It's going to be a righteous standoff. And they're going to be like, look, we don't feel like he told this, that. And even then, you're going to be a torpedo off an allegation. You're going to have to sign up to be a torpedo. So with the gangsters thing, I think a lot of cities in a lot of states forget what L.A.

1:36:58specifically, just California, period, but what L.A. was and still is because, you know what I'm saying, of them basically catching up. I'm going to use that, you know what I'm saying, to be respectful. They're just like learning how to be street. I'm not saying that at all. We invented it. Because there's streets everywhere in the world. What I say about Chicago, them niggas are tough with guns. That'll make you gangster because you got a gun. The hoax, L.A. County Sheriff, every police officer got a gun. And, nigga, they kill people every day. Does that make them gangsta? Nigga, you gangsta what you do without that gun.

1:37:28And, nigga, guess what? I looked it up. Right. Los Angeles County Jail is the second most violent jail in the United States. I thought it was the first. Right here's number one. Right here's number one. I got it right here, man. Yeah, but even still to the gang, again, like alluding to what I was saying, like Chicago, they definitely hitting out there. That's definitely a jungle out there. Yeah, on the streets with Gubba and JL, they do weird shit. They spinning niggas' booties. And JLK, that's good. Y 'all putting carrots in people's booties. Yeah, that's a big look. He did it. That's a big look.

1:37:58Stop saying I didn't, man. I ain't had no person. You did it by relation. I ain't partake to nothing. But again, like what I'm saying is people look. Hold on, let me know. I'm a lot for you. People think that they look at Hollywood now and they look at everywhere else and they think that's L.A. Hollywood is not L.A., bro. That's L.A. County. That's not South Central. So that's not Compton. That's not Watts. That's not Long Beach. Nobody's confusing the two, right? No, no, no, no, no. I don't think it was in West Hollywood and Compton. No, they think they automatically think LA. Out of towners.

1:38:28You know what I'm saying? And then coming from the Midwest, you know what I'm saying, in the East Coast, because my cousin out here, he from the East Coast, he think, oh, y 'all sit nice, which compared, to be fair, it is compared to coming from Chicago and New York. It looks nicer. It looks nice, but it is definitely not nice. and they definitely forget about what's going on still to this day and what happened. A lot of them dudes is just catching up, especially with their game culture. They just now trying to turn up. L.A. and California been turned up. Hey, spotty face, yesterday, J.E.D., he said something about like, I forget, like the streets is dead or whatever, right?

1:39:02But you know what I think it really is, bro? Because back then, the streets used to influence Hollywood and they make movies about everything like colors, South Central, Boys in the Hood Menace to Society But now You got the Internet influence In the streets Instead of the other way around Like anytime A gay A gay A gay nigga Could make Make rules for Straight people It's crazy You got Saucy Santana Talking about Straight men Ain't supposed to be Smoking hookah Right So Don't just The big homie So I ain't saying That Against Saucy But like Shout out to Homie Saucy Yeah That's the big homie Dog Don't take Axe Or Or just people on the internet making rules for street people.

1:39:46Now the street people is talking about this civilian shit, and I never heard of that in my life, into the internet. That civilian shit is, I don't know, nothing to body. Can't nobody tell, including Adam. That's what I'm saying. The internet is making the rules now instead of the streets influencing the Hollywood and, you know what I'm saying? No, people, okay, look. Drop a flag. We don't say that in California. What the fuck is drop a flag? You can't drop your flag in California, nigga. You did something already. What? Drop your flag. If you drop that flag or not, we're going to get on you. I don't want that no more.

1:40:18I still got to carry. I'm still protecting myself. You'll hear somebody say, hang your chucks up or something. Drop your flag and all that. I don't know nothing about it. That's an East Coast term, brother. Yeah, they need to keep it on the East Coast. Yeah, but that's King Phil said that because, you know, he's a Jekyll. No, Rondo said that too. Who? Again, that's not that. Rondo's from Atlanta. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm saying that goes with that. But to be fair with Rondo, see, I didn't like that neither. You know, of course, I was in prison, but that whole story, following that whole story, and I'm going to just keep it a band, though.

1:40:47A lot of his homies, nigga, that's just keep it a band. Nigga, them niggas betrayed him. Nigga, he was up with Vaughn, nigga, and Dirk now, and Lil' Happy, them gunning him, go do albums with them niggas. And they from 60s. Hey, look, bro. Hey, hey. You know what I'm saying? So it's a lot of instruciation. But those complications are why he wanted to live. Exactly. So people just think, oh, he just said, I'm dropping my flag for no reason. Or he was scared to dirt them and all that. He like, man. But isn't that the 6ix9ine effect a little bit? Like, everybody's going to have excuses on why. But I'm saying, like, everybody's going to have reasons on why they gang did them wrong and why I should be able to do my gang wrong.

1:41:22No, Ron didn't tell nobody, though. He just dropped the flag. No, I'm just saying in terms of I have these good reasons why I'm dropping my flag or not rocking with them no more. This is what I want to know. Because it was a video, and he was in, like, Meryl. He was somewhere right out here. You talking about Rondo? Rondo, he was dissing Hoover crazy. And I'm like, why is he doing that? He's in the 60s. Man, bro. Right. I mean, they beef with them out. That beef is universal, though, brother. No, it ain't. No, not at all. Man, Hoover's in the 60s. He's best out there in Texas. I don't know about that.

1:41:52That's why they're on 60s. What about 607-9? Exactly. And I don't even know if it's like that same thing. I don't even trust with you. I don't trust 607-9 either. He's definitely different. But they're not. Hey, listen, bro. You gotta ask 30 deep because he and they will appreciate it. Rolling Sixers and Hovers in Texas is friends. They push the decrypt thing first. You know what I'm saying? Nah, you better go watch that video of them video hood blogs with Treyway and them out there. You crazy. Them niggas own that. Treyway? Yeah. When he was in Houston. Man, because they from California. No, they was not.

1:42:21He was out there, bro. You talking about Trey from out here? Yeah, he traveled out there. He was out there and did a kick in with them. Those Six O's? Hey. They don't know the Hovers. Yeah, I know, but was it Six O's there? No, that's what I'm saying. They was on that. You talking about some LA niggas saying that shit in a different state. No, it was Houston niggas. They showing off. Let me tell you. What's the nigga name? I was from out here and got killed in Houston by the Hoobahs. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That beef is universal, bro. The Chaco, no it ain't. For the most part, in Baltimore, the Hoobahs in the neighborhood just beef.

1:42:54Oklahoma, same thing. I would ever love them, them niggas just beef. The homies in Atlanta, they not doing nothing with the rolling 60s. But I bet you if they hit a LAX and get around us, they go get the dissing. But that's because YSL for life and all that shit going on, that Gunna signed and all that. The 6-0s in Atlanta is like an organization. It's less than a lot, even like a gang, like an organization. Because if it was a Strictly gang, when Quando Rondo and Dirt got into it, Lil Baby would have been in his ass for doing all the mixtapes with Dirt. Period. All that. Because they both from Atlanta 60s.

1:43:31That's crazy to me, y 'all. That's crazy. They did three mixtapes. Hey, bro. That's what Quan do like, nigga. I'm cool, nigga. Yeah, because... You ain't gunna like y 'all, nigga. Y 'all making albums with this nigga. We beefing. Yeah, we beefing, nigga. He trying to kill the homies. So you feel like it's justified. That's what he said. So you telling me what? Bro, they got so... Big Nut was big with families, right? Who? Big Nut. Right. Right. So you telling me that if... If somebody from Chicago killed Big Nut, if Dirk and them killed Big Nut, it would have been okay for Deuce. What was my boy's name?

1:44:13Luchi? No, from Englewood family. I just talked to him, too. That's crazy. Luchi? My wife and Luchi? No, from Englewood family. Is he from Englewood? Bro, Deuce. Lil Deuce. Yeah, can Lil Deuce do a song with Lil Dirk if Lil Durk and him just killed Big Nut? So this is like transcending politics. It's like different. So where's Lil Deuce from? Lil Deuce is from nine Deuce Inglewood families. In Atlanta. No, he's from California. That's his little homie. Oh, okay. Hey, look. So could he do a song with Lil Durk after a nigga from Inglewood families got killed and they dissing each other and all that?

1:44:53They dissing. They got a whole hell show. Hellcats and Trackhawks It depends right It depends No no no it depends Because I want to know How the Melana dudes Is carrying it first Right because look They trying to kill each other still They punch us But Woody just went I mean no Woody Thug just went to Chow for the whole shit And now he doing songs with them Nah yeah yeah But now we talking about Them niggas on blood YF and Lucci Them niggas on blood They squash it I'm saying You talking about Lucci and Thug We talking about Dirk And Little Baby I'm saying I will see how The Atlanta homies will go about it because look how it played out now.

1:45:29Let's say if I stopped Frosty, Lil Deuce, or somebody from doing music with Thug, but now Thug doing music with Wyatt Finn Luchy. They could possibly patch it up. That's different because they all die moves and that shit happened on the regular out here. We talking about some black... I'm talking about Nut because Nut's from Atlanta. He's an Inglewood family gangsta Bloods. In Atlanta. Bloods. In Atlanta. Bloods. And YFN Lucci was. He from, nah, he gangland, and he's doing the song with, they pieced it up, and they did a song, and they got whatever out the way. Him and does. I don't think that's the same thing.

1:46:08You get what I'm saying, right? I get what you're saying, but I don't think it's the same thing, because what we said is. My answer was, I will wait and see how the Atlanta homies is handling. So, I don't think you. You're spitting, baby mama's dying, niggas crying, admit that Rico. No, no, look, I think you're moving on to the Lucci thing instead of the Kwondo. So what we saying right now, was it, what Kwon Do, was it justified for him to - Some bust or shit. He put out his flag. But listen, if you put out - No, I'm not gonna bust or shit. No, no, listen, I'm gonna say, so he put - My cousin died and the homies didn't rock with me?

1:46:36No, even before his cousin died, they did an album. Before the - Exactly, nigga. He was like, nigga, what is y 'all doing? We from the same hood. Y 'all niggas doing albums with these niggas. Exactly. And then they end up turning around, and you know what I'm saying, his cousin is getting a block. He was rocking the wheel and dealing with the whole time. In reality, the Chicago niggas started it. They attacked Kwon Do. So you're telling me you had let some niggas attack some Inglewood families. Your homies protect theyself. Put one of them niggas down and then it's still all cool. We still gonna act like this nigga didn't disrespect and said he didn't have.

1:47:13And he came to their regime. That's like some niggas coming from Chicago and bombing on you and then going to Atlanta and been doing songs with him. Hey, wasn't BPS farting by someone from Chicago? Hey, look, if you did single with Fannie in Africa, I'm tripping about it. I'm coming out there. We're going to get the sprang. If that answers your question, but... So you said fuck Thug? Huh? So you said fuck Thug? I'm saying Kwan Dorando's a buster. He's young Thug a buster. You don't know his young Thug a buster. I'm saying he's a buster because he did the interview with the police? Who? Young Doug.

1:47:52Young Doug. No, he's talking about interview with the police. No, I got a question. Let me ask you. The interview with the police. I'm going to give you one last thing. We have like actual topics that I want to hit. So you add one thing and then we'll move on. All right. So Munchy BJ said right now Quando Rondo's a buster because he laid down his flag. That's cool. That's his opinion. But also he fake laid it down because he's obviously still creeping when we were talking to him on the interview and shit, he's saying on crib. He's saying, like, he just said that to get himself looking better to the courts and shit.

1:48:23Or fake drop out of your game. Hold on, hold on. That was fake. Whatever the case is, whether he dropped it or he laid it down, whatever, he still picked it up, whatever the case is. So he a buster for doing that. But what about Luchi? So Luchi and them not a buster and all that. They lost life up in that. Kondo was a buster for putting on his flag because he said, hold on, we all from the same hood. Y 'all niggas, I'm beefing you and they're trying to unalive us. Hey, y 'all over here doing albums with the niggas. I'm cool on y 'all. And this, no, no. Luchi ain't snitched or nothing like that, though.

1:48:54Of course. Hold on. But with Coochie, I mean, Coochie. Luchi and Thugman was beefing his lives lost behind that as well. And they went and clicked up. They cool now. Right. So they not a buster. They cool. And I answered that. And that's why I said I will wait and see what the Atlanta homies do. and I gave that exact example why I will wait and see how the homies in Atlanta is moving. All right. Y 'all ain't got any kids when I said that? You got any kids? I got two daughters. If somebody unallowed your baby mama, can y 'all ever be cool? Which one? Which baby mama?

1:49:29That's the answer. That's the answer. That's the answer. That's the answer. That's the answer. That's fire. I'm making shit. Let's go. Nah, that was amazing. I mean, it'd be long lasting beefs out here that went on for years and his lies being claimed and the beef in. So, I mean, I can't tell no Atlanta niggas how to handle their business or squash nothing. You know what I'm saying? Okay, yo, I'm going to interject to just say, number one, everybody out there watching, smash the like button. We really appreciate it. Number two, it seems like we should probably discuss the fact that our boy, Ant Hefe, also known as the Alter Eagle, is not on the podcast today because he is locked up facing murder charges.

1:50:15And despite a flurry of fake news over the past week, it would appear that the situation that Ant is being accused of is one in which he and another man allegedly DP'd a fellow 8-Tray crip. That was a child molester. That was a sexual figure. You have Ant on the phone? Hold on. Oh, he's a girl. Interesting. You didn't see that? Yeah, they said he was a rapist. Okay, but I saw people today saying that the spelling of the name for the dude who's a rapist is different than this guy. So I am a little worried about jumping to conclusions that that guy was a rapist. There's been so much misinformation.

1:50:54not 100 % sure on that I think if he his shit be valid if he said it I kind of believe it right cause I think he reliable but I'm glad but I'm glad you said you wouldn't jump to that shit I'm glad yeah just cause I saw a post today saying that they think that it might be a different guy with a different spelling but okay and also the guy that that was about it was like a 2019 rape charge so it is kind of unclear if there if this DP story is true, it's kind of unclear if that would have been the reason. Also, maybe he could have done something else if that really is. I'll say this. You think he just got free?

1:51:34I'm not sure. There's all speculation. I told y 'all... What you doing over here? I told y 'all within... My initial hypothesis was if this is a thing, I'm going to assume that if there is a DP, He probably is someone that did some J-Cat ass shit. So you're forgiving N. Hefe prematurely for this party. Yes. I trust N. Hefe's just because he's capable of making those decisions. I don't believe he had nothing to do with it. It did nothing wrong because he didn't take part in it, though. It did nothing wrong, and I don't believe he did anything. I'm going to forgive him regardless because if Little Lowdown, it was a crip, and he was still gangbanging at the age of 51, he would not want this type of justice.

1:52:20He would not want young N. Hefe in jail. period so regardless if he was 50's that means he was gang banging in the 90's and he was from A-Trey one of the most notorious black gangs in South Central California he done done some shit he done got away with some shit and I do not believe that he would want that type of outcome I do not want nobody to go to jail for me if I get murdered I do not want that type of justice because two wrongs don't make a right. And like I said, young Ant is a person. He's a pillar in the community and we need him. But we do have to recognize that it is the job of the courts to prosecute people who kill other people.

1:53:08So if this is true, even if Homie was guilty of being a child molester, I don't even know why we said child molester. I think it was just a rape charge or whatever. But either way, we do got to acknowledge that, you know, So, Ant Jefe participating and potentially beating a rapist to death is, you know, probably wasn't the best decision. It's God's worth. It's respectable, but it's just you can't be the judge, jury, and executioner. It's going to always come back to that. You know what I'm saying? But I don't believe that Ant Jefe did. I don't think he did. But there's a lot of things that are, like, technically right that we don't do because of the fact that we don't want to go to prison for the rest of our life.

1:53:46Yeah, look at Cain Velasquez. is he just got out doing five years because he just shot his kid. He just shot at the guy. He shot at his whip and shit. How much time did the kid touch him get? Nothing. We actually don't know. I just looked it up the other day. He's never been sentenced to nothing. Really? Yeah. But I wonder if there's any chance that it wasn't true. Our government is fucked up. That shit don't make no sense. The boy All-Star JR is in jail right now because he took somebody good. And stood over him and fired into his body. Okay, that's what happened. police officers, they just shoot and fire into you because they think you got a gun, but you got a snapple.

1:54:22But we know the standards is different, though. That's how they're going to treat us. Because we are human. God made us all equal. So we're one nation under God. Why we not one nation under God, then? If I was in a situation where I felt like I had to shoot somebody for sure the whole time, I would just be thinking about, like, how is this going to look on camera? Am I going to be able to beat this charge? So at that point, probably my logical thinking brain would preclude me from standing over him and firing into his lifeless body. That's gangsta as fuck, but yeah. I'm not going to help you out with the self-defense.

1:54:51The imagery is amazing, but it's probably a bad idea if you want to beat it. It's called fight or flight. Fight or flight and your adrenaline is pumping. People blank out. But when they're sleeping on the ground, you know. How do you know if he's sleeping? I mean, he probably wasn't sleeping. The screen grabs look pretty bad. He's going to be able to make a case, but it definitely doesn't help him not going back. Because he spun back on him to stand over him, too. He was about to dip and then turn back around, hit him with the, you know, finish him off. But he didn't finish him. I know. That's crazy, too.

1:55:15Bro is invincible. All he got to do is up it up a little bit more. Well, he probably paralyzed him. Seems he paralyzed him. That's a pretty big deal. I thought I saw him walking with crutches already and shit. Hell no, he paralyzed. Is he? I thought they said that was fake. He got shot first off the hospital. That's insane. I seen that too. What is he doing? I believe. I don't know. But that was in Baton Rouge. So that's where a lot of people get shot at. But it sounds. People get shot everywhere. Baton Rouge is top. But what I'm saying is. Ain't the thing yet? I don't know. It said like. Said he now said the boy made a statement.

1:55:43Like he told. he is not credible you don't think Setti Nash is credible well he just said that knocked off Big U son that's what he was reporting did you watch the whole video they were saying he was dispelling that rumor no he was putting it out there that's what he said he called him but okay the Setti Nash thing though I don't think it's a Sacramento 60s What do you think Sidney Nash was wrong about? He wrong for putting that narrative out there That Ant was in jail For Bikyu's son That that's wrong But you saw the whole video Did he actually say that? Yeah he said somebody told him that that was the reason why Man you can't report what somebody told you I'm not saying that justifies it No no no man you gotta come with the facts With that type of accusation you gotta have something else Other than a third party just saying hey this is what happened I know somebody that's on that side of the fence, like neighborhood crib, and called in.

1:56:50I'm like, man, what are you doing? I know, I know, I know I'm getting calls and calls. So he wasn't just like, you know what I'm saying? They just care about the clicks. And why you didn't private the video at the union? Put that lie out there. Absolutely. But I feel like everybody. Why are you not listening? Okay, Ant Hefe, Spody Face, Munchie B, et cetera. Everybody makes the same exact fucking kind of videos. But y 'all just hate on the Flacos and the 1090Js because they do the most views. Let's talk about it. Traplore Ross. Y 'all do the same shit. You just don't do as good a research as Traplore Ross.

1:57:18I don't report on none of that. You do all day. All you guys do the same exact topics as them. I don't even put on comments. We can put it side by side. Flacco and you. Same thumbnail, same title, same topic. They don't put me. Him too. And half day before he got locked up. Same shit. I don't report on that. Clearly you ain't watch my. I don't touch the thumbnails. I don't touch that shit. I ain't talk about the YCAD bench thing. I don't want to talk about that type of shit. That shit too groundy. And even when they do, they could cover it, but they're not putting murder accusations on people.

1:57:46They just say allegedly a bunch of times. Nah, I don't even touch. You for sure ain't subscribe to me. You're all reacting to the news. That's what we're all doing. It's certain stuff that I don't even mess with. Anyway, look, look, look. First and foremost, I just got off the phone with Young and Hefe. What's he talking about? Of course, you know, he innocent. And the video footage is going to prove that he's not. They're just using his name. I put Lush on the phone with him, too. He definitely in good spirits. You know what I'm saying? And Lush is eating the enchilada meals from the Little Grifo interview, which I just want to point out that was like a week and a half ago.

1:58:19And you don't got respect for San Diego? That's what they produce right there, Little Grifo meal. He's risking food poisoning for San Diego right now. It's just like a week expired. Okay. But anyway, you guys are all hypocrites. But you was wrong on that. I don't do that. I don't jump to conclusions and I don't put, you know what I'm saying? You're just later than that. No. They just break the news and then you react to it like a day later. No, because they do research sometimes. this was not one of those cases. Trap was super wrong. He was just going off what Flacco said. He said that, you know what I'm saying?

1:58:44So that's the bad part is that you start to lose credibility if you do this a bunch of times, you know what I'm saying? You gotta have some type of accuracy. It can't be just completely made up. Yeah, Aunt Hefe got locked up. Let me look up all the murders in LA and let me put one of these on. That's actually great that that happened because now all them other videos they gonna be used as evidence. You can't use a Trap Lord Ross video as evidence that somebody killed somebody. Let's just use the Julio Julio trial. The feds used his ATK chart in the whole indictment for the whole Julio trial. The feds used Trap Lord Ross video.

1:59:23That was his chart. But also, we can't ignore the fact that the videos and the false narratives that was put out by Young and Hefe, I mean, by people against Young and Hefe, that didn't raise his bill. That's a fact. Yeah, do y 'all agree with that? Because Spodey didn't say that. I just wanted to know if they agree with that That definitely did I thought they raised the bill because he on federal parole He's got the feds I just want to know Can a YouTube video that puts an accusation out there Raise your bill I'm not saying you're lying I just want to know their opinion That's what Spody says To my understanding That is going to be a gang related murder You're going to have a 186.22 of violent crime in association and direction for the benefit of the gang.

2:00:12If they're saying this was a DP gone wrong, they are definitely going to add the gang allegation. We don't got Gascog no more. We got this dude, so chokes on dick, and he's tripping. Right, Gascog. Yeah, he's gone. Chokes on dick is such a stretch. I love it. I believe that that million dollars was either because he's on federal parole. He just got the feds. So they're going to have to put a hold on you anyway. He got to do a violation anyway. Just for coming in contact with the police, he has to go do that federal year. But that was initial, but then they doubled it to 2.5. Or 2.05. Yeah, 05, yeah.

2:00:50It was one mil and then Spody saying that the videos and all the narratives bumped it, doubled it. You know what I'm saying? So what they trying to say... So they got to do a 352 hearing. So what they trying to say... No, they don't got to do no evidence of hearing because what the district attorney did, they asked the judge, hey, listen, this was going on here. This is the narrative. This is not no ordinary dude. He's such and such and such. He's a prominent figure. Da-da-da-da-da-da. We need, they basically using the same tactics they use everybody else. They try to put you, give you a bill.

2:01:20When they don't want you out, they try to give you a bill that they don't feel like you could obtain. You know what I'm saying? They try to put it out to a reach. And that's for sure. That's a fact. That's what happened, bro. Once they found out, they started hearing the 10th. in court they said that? It's a fact, bro. Listen, I don't want to put I ain't saying too much. That's not, I ain't was given permission. But I'm telling you, that is a fact. That's what raised his bill. Like, that's a fact. That is a fact. Damn. Well, what would be anything else? So what would be anything other than, like, you probably have an interesting point about his prior, like, federal...

2:01:49I don't know, you go to jail if you're on federal parole, they putting that hold on you. He's not on parole, though. I don't think he's on parole. He wouldn't even have a bill. There would be no bill, bro. There'd be no bill. They're not going to do it because once you will bail out, you can bail out, and then the feds are going to come get you, pick you up. So they wouldn't even give him a bail. If he had something still with the feds, L.A. County, you wouldn't even have a bail. I don't think he'd do it. Do you guys feel a little weirded out by the fact that Anhefe allegedly killed this guy in a parking lot and then came and did the podcast like a day later?

2:02:22And I'm not going to lie. I do know some YouTube sleuths who've been digging through the podcast that appeared right after this alleged murder. And there is some interesting stuff to be discerned from some of the podcast appearances if you really study Ant afterwards. I'm not going to be the one breaking down any of those theories, but I do feel like the YouTube detectives have a little bit of work to do. Hey, Adam. All right. Like I said before. He innocent, man. He's on. You guys are just saying that because you like him? No. You're not saying that with any kind of evidence. No, no, no, no, no, no.

2:02:57I know for a fact that he's not on camera doing that thing. But they only arrested two dudes. More than two. Arrested four people. I saw two. More than two, bro. In the TMZ article, I said two. In this show, I think it was two. They arrested four people. Really? Him plus three more people, right? I saw two. Somebody got a DA reject. Hey, listen, for one, I know for a fact, like, it's a waiting process, but he going to end up getting out, right? I know that for a fact. and for two where we come from Adam people go put in work and go to school and turn in their homework the next day I mean if yeah Rick Baby said do you know what it's like to catch a body and then have to go play basketball the next day yeah go to basketball practice it happens like but I'm not saying that that's the case with Ant you know what I'm saying but here I mean it's not out the norms hell no like you might smack something and go to school the next day nigga go everything and be at life nigga smack something and then go get a slushy from 7-11 to celebrate.

2:03:53If he had told me, like, yo, Adam, I need a week or two off because I killed this dude, I would have been like, all right, school, I understand. You deserve it. I would have. I'm a good boss. That makes him more guilty looking. No, no, no. He didn't do nothing. No, here's my real answer. He was in prison. I'm not saying he is. My real answer is this. The fact that there's people that supposedly were his colleagues, that he had a cordial relationship, that were willing to make videos detailing and implicating or attempting to implicate him for a charge. Say they name, Les. There's so many. We're talking to Flacco, Ross, 1090 Jake, all people.

2:04:33Because they put out the taco stand shit, and that was blatantly false. Right, one, honey. Okay, but what's wrong with them? This is the world we live in. People do this shit all day, every day about everybody. The only difference here is that it's a person that we know and that we're friends with. no no no no false murder i mean we see a lot of that though right this does stand out a lot i did that before i i i i want you i'm not saying you guys are like putting out like fake news like this this one they did all happen to get it wrong and for sure i'm glad that i didn't post anything about it i had to tell lena hey that whole thing i told you about and heavy at the taco story yesterday that was fake i had to break it to her like i know i weirded you out when i told you that story but it ended up being but you feel like it's perfectly fine for them to do that but something stopped you from doing that so you know that you know it's something i don't do the breaking news stuff the same way they do sometimes hey hey if that story was out there we would have got on this podcast if that story came out tuesday morning we would have got on this podcast and we would all talked about it yeah talking about it but saying oh yeah and hopped out and then he said where are you from and then it was like oh where are you from it's like doing the fucking play-by-play like you watch the video and then it's completely fake it's crazy but they said They didn't say that it was 100 % true, right?

2:05:44In all their videos, I'm assuming that they said, hey, we don't have to say the verbatim, this is 100 % true. But Flacco outlined a self-defense case for Young Ant. When he did that video, he outlined everything it would get for self-defense. So a lot of people don't really know the law. He said Young Ant said what he was from. Young Ant walked away. the boy pursued him and then Young defended himself because he did not know what the dude had. Except that wasn't him and that was a whole other answer. that's the whole point. That's just a whole false charge. Flacco broke the news. It sounded real.

2:06:23It sounded like something that could happen. And Efe looks like he probably used burritos. So how you feel about Black Wade Cap? I don't even mention his name. How you feel about Black Wade Cap getting online and doing the whole play by play of somebody that was supposed to be his home. Rest in peace to that young man. I don't know. You're talking about whack. No, no, no. There's another dude. Oh, that kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why would a boy head do you wear a wave cap? Black wave cap. I feel like he was wrong, right? But I also, to my understanding, he went to his community and admitted he was wrong and he took whatever he had coming.

2:06:56Yeah, but I'm not talking about the repercussions. I'm talking about giving the whole play-by-play. How are you in this space and you reporting on somebody that's supposed to be that ain't odd and weird. You not in tune to what happened with your homie? How you reporting off of, then he tried to put it on Flocko, but how you, don't listen, don't listen. You can't listen to Flocko. How are you, because he tried to put it off on Flocko, how are you reporting off of somebody else's information about somebody that's in your community though? How you not tapped in to the point that you know you're talking about, oh, I just.

2:07:31All right, so let me answer that question. Okay. And I'm just going to put it in,

2:07:38something that we both can relate to. You from Rolling 40s. Somebody gets shy. Allegedly. You have a tattoo on your body all over you? Yeah. It's on your face.

2:07:53One of your homies died. You don't know if it was the Hoovers, the Troubles, the VNs, the BP. You don't know who did what. You don't know if it was the Streep, the HOBs. you don't know who did it. It happens all the time, especially when niggas is involved in active wars. You don't know who. We don't know who's shooting at us. But I'm not going to never listen to nobody else report on my homie, tell me about what my homie, if I'm open here, that's my community. And the reason why I think that he believed it is because how thorough he does his investigating. Who, Flacco? Flacco is the voice of the streets.

2:08:30That's crazy. He is. I can't believe that came out so far. I can't believe that came up so bomb. Let me tell you this, bro. I'm going to tell you that nigga research be bunk, bro. Whatever the LA Times used to be to the streets where they got their news, now they have Poetic Flacco. And I'm not joking. That is actually where people get their news now. I know Flacco is the reason why the young Dolph murder got caught. West Coast war stories, whatever. Flacco was the voice. That was his magno opus, though. I think that was his best word. I think it's been downhill since. It's a takeoff murder, too.

2:09:06Hey, bro. Yeah, he got some accurate murder cases that he didn't investigate. But then we get the Draco, and then we get the Aunt Hefe story, and then there's a lot of misses within there. That's what I'm saying. There's a lot of misses in there. You feel me? You just talked to him the other day. One of my best friends from the hood, this bitch-ass nigga, Flacco Jose, the connection to Inglewood News, because their last name is both Williams. And so, bro, that nigga ain't related to nothing. Wait, that's a black guy with the last name of Williams? Hey, bro, he said, because these two dudes, their last name is Williams, and he connected him to the homie you just talked to the other day.

2:09:41Remember I said, you're like, I just talked to him the other day. Yeah. And he had nothing to do with nothing, was fighting his own case. He was in the county jail at the same time. He was in the county jail. Deuce Lane was my neighbor. Right. And they was fighting that case. I know exactly who you're talking about, bro. So niggas just be running they fucking dick suckers, bro, not knowing what they talking about and playing with people real lives for content purposes, and that's bunk as fuck. And it's a weird-ass nigga from East Coast. I ain't going to say his little channel. He talking about I'm the reason why Young Ant locked up.

2:10:09I got him out the way because he was the number one at No Jumper. I was number two, and I wanted to bust. Wait, what? Yo, I couldn't believe it when I heard that. Oh, you heard that shit? I saw that theory. We talking about Spud? I don't actually know who made the video. We talking about Spud? No, bro, some weirdo from East Coast. Hey, look, I said, what the fuck? What kind of drug is he using? Right? he a podcaster? I just heard about him for the first time today my whole life. I don't know this nigga. The idea that somehow Munchie was standing in the way of Anjefe being the big dog at No Jumper they were always cool they had a little friction one time but the idea that they were both vying for my attention and shit, if anything they both act like I don't fucking exist half the time besides when we're doing this podcast that idea is insane for the record.

2:10:58That is the craziest conspiracy theory I've ever heard. Chill out, Spody. Chill out, Spody. First of all, and second of all, nah, bro. They must have just admitted me. He must have admitted me in his thought process. We know the fuck time it is. Whatever conspiracy theory you have. Man, I... Lush popping shit. Single Lush popping shit. That's some weirdo ass shit. They'll put any narrative in the metaverse for some clicks. real life topic ongoing investigations i try to stay away from that but even if you are going to do it do your due diligence have some type of inside info so have some type of actual research don't just go hey this dude from this hood told me this and i'm about to make a play-by-play video as if this is exactly how the events went i don't do no police work yeah but for flocco and them like i get it that that's what they need to do but at least it's have some you know integrity of you know being right and getting the story right that's what i was saying though is like if you really know these people like maybe hesitate for a second they don't got no you know i'm not gonna say no souls but like not when it comes to content the content is the content that's what i'm saying it's like in terms of like connections with people valuing them the content is over all of that don't matter they're all in competition with each other so that like it when it comes to media there's like massive incentives to be fast and not to get it right so like from their perspective all those videos they made about Ant were successful because they probably made like$1 ,000 off it or$2 ,000 or whatever the fuck it was.

2:12:26So from their perspective... It looks like I'm going to make another video and make some more money. It's actually beneficial for them to be wrong because then they get to spin the block the next day and make another video and be like, yo, haha, I was wrong, but here's another video where I break down how I was wrong and then also what the real thing is. And that's why our media landscape is completely destroyed at this current state of America. But they're not asking anybody to go there oh you mean like going there to like watch i mean no not to watch it of course you don't saying go go watch they stuff i'm talking about if you come on man because i'm actually thinking like he they have it figured out and all that i would how many times has tmz been wrong they were they're the first people to report everything always but they're doing some type of research they're very rarely wrong and really like yeah throughout this and have a thing we have had to like look to tmz for the actual story which is scary but it's not scary because they're doing more research than fucking Flocker with 1090-J.

2:13:16Everybody else is just reacting to shit. But they're considered like a rag columnist. But they're not really when it comes to breaking news. Yeah, they're always pretty much right. But still. And they're definitely a credible source. Yeah. Lush is trying to smear them on a lot. They have like a 99 % correct rate. No, because that's an Unk Normie take. And Lush sometimes segues into Unk Normie. That is not an Unk. Yes, it is. Wait, why is it? Why is it? Yeah, why? You defending TMZ is fucking Unk Normie. When has TMZ been wrong? When has TMZ been wrong? Like notable examples. They are the modern equivalent to the fucking grocery aisle.

2:13:47What do you mean? No. Maybe the articles, but the news that they report, this person died. Yes, they actually died. Tell us something. They're literally reporting on entertainment news. But they're not. That's part of what they do. No, they do do that. So you're going to say that they're as credible of a news outlet as a... You just keep moving the goalposts. No, we're not. Let them land. No, I'm not. so we're going to say they're equivalent to MSNBC? Did anyone say that? No, don't compare them. Who said that? You just made something up so you can debunk it. You know this is bad potting. You made something up to debunk it.

2:14:24Argue with what I said, not some made-up shit you just came up with. So reiterate what you said. Give us some examples. Reiterate what you said then, because I'll fucking just go. I said that for the most part, TM's very trustworthy. They break tons of news, and they have a reputation for getting things right and being first. Are they ever wrong? Yes. Yes. Is it very, very few and far between? Yes. You cannot argue with what I just said. No, no, no. For the amount that they report. I'll gladly go through the biggest misses that they've ever had. I don't necessarily have a problem with that point, but my point is...

2:14:53They're not a percentile. No, I think so. Beyond all that, what they are is essentially like a rag publication. No, they're not, and you can't justify that. Wait, what does that mean? What does rag publication mean? In comparison to fucking MSNBC... Why are you comparing them to something you made up? The entertainment fucking news. The entertainment news. You just decided to compare them to that. We did not say that. But that's what they are. They're like the Inquirer or Star Magazine. You're putting it against a bigger thing. Yes, they are. The Inquirer does not purport to be telling the truth.

2:15:23Yes, they do. They're blatantly making stuff up to be entertaining. It's like comparing TMZ to The Onion. No, absolutely not. TMZ to CNN. The Onion is a parody channel. Star and The Inquirer are salacious. entertainment news what's yes what tablet what is your favorite ai so i can ask this question to i know go ahead you ask me no but you i just want to get i want to give it to you is it however you want is tmz no i'm fucking right but what does the what does the rack publication mean wrong i'm not i'm not saying that they're not they're not they're not what does rack publication mean that's what i don't know all right so we asked the i said is tmz generally an accurate and trusted source which by the way we're wasting time talking about this instead of talking about the actual topic and Gemini says TMZ is accurate and often the first to break major celebrity news but it's not a traditional news organization the out the operate the outlet operates on a tabloid model frequently prioritizing sensationalism and what I'm reading does not exonerate you in any way multiple the same phrases okay you're ignoring the part that you don't like they have a highly effective network of sources often scooping mainstream media outlets on celebrity breakups legal troubles and deaths and when they report a major story they usually back up their claims with concrete evidence like court documents audio and video and footage so can we please stop having this stupid waste of time argument that is a complete and total unk take and you're really disappointing me it can be a tabloid but be reputable i think is what we can agree here like it can be a rag and i love how people people try to use the kobe death as evidence the kobe thing is an example of how accurate they are because they were reported it before the family even knew That is how aggressive they are with their reporting.

2:17:09In reality, they literally use multiple phrases that I use to describe what they are. But the general consensus of what they said is in the total opposite direction of what you said. Yeah, you have parts right, but the untrue stuff. You're saying that they're wrong a lot. You can't justify that. I've never once said they— That is 100 % what you said. Go back and look at the tape. I did not once say they were wrong a lot. But Daily Inquirer is a lot more wrong than TMZ. And Lush, Lush, Lush, Lush. Consensus. You can generally trust the facts that they report on developing celebrity stories, but you should be prepared for a heavily biased or salacious tone.

2:17:41They are a trustworthy news outlet. And the fact that they have been accurate about everything in terms of the Ann Jefe story, while all of our comrades have been wrong about it, says a lot. Is it trashy? But they do report facts. But that's my point. Yeah, it's trashy. Absolutely. One mic, one mic. Jay, what are you saying? All of the comrades who make content on it were incorrect. that people who sat back and knew what was going on, they just chose to close their mouth. Right. Like me. Like me. The reality is that - You don't get any points for just not talking. I never said they weren't. I never said they weren't.

2:18:16Look, a hard hit make it so bad. Look, I never said they weren't accurate. They lost. Really? Okay, pull up a pull then. No, put up a fucking pull. You don't need to waste any time. You didn't say that directly, but that was a sentiment. We shouldn't listen to you. Lush, this is the point that you need to embed into your mind. It is 2026. When we mentioned TMZ, we do not need to hear Uncle John, the Papa John's delivery guy over here, tell us that TMZ is not an accurate source because obviously for the most part they are. I never once said they weren't an accurate source. You did. No, I did not.

2:18:48That's the only thing that matters. We don't care about being malicious. You haven't been able to substantiate anything that you were saying. Really? We're still waiting. What have they been wrong about? I didn't say they were wrong. No, you did. What I said. Now you act like me. No, he said, yes, yo, Lushy face. It's Lushy face in this bitch. Make a poll then. Make a poll then. Make a poll then if you're popping it like that. But I already, I asked, make a poll. The poll doesn't matter. I asked you for your preferred AI. You told us you didn't care which one we use. I don't need to. And it accurately backed up what we were saying.

2:19:21Whatever mechanism y 'all need to do to, because we're going to move past this, but Lush, in the future, please don't do the TMZ is fake news thing. Okay. Again, What was the main point, though? We just wasted 10 minutes talking about this. We don't need to further provide a platform for him to spread his uptakes. I'm going to just say one thing before you move on. I was 100 % right, and everybody knows it. That is a distortion of reality. I only got one thing to say about this before you move on is that was kind of crazy that they used Tanir and their little thing against Diddy, bro. That shit was crazy.

2:19:53Oh, so that was inaccurate. You're talking about Softlight Underbelly? No, fuck no. No, her statement about the Diddy parties, TMZ used it, and she doesn't seem to be the most credible source. Yeah, that's the only thing. I'm like, I don't know if you could take that to the bank, but outside of that, they'd be pretty much on point. They're pretty good. They're pretty good about it. Shout out to TMZ. They do a great job. Please forgive Lush for his lack of knowledge. Harvey, please forgive Lush. My whole point was, and I've been knowing, I was on TMZ in 2014. Irrelevant. Okay, you're right. It is.

2:20:24But the point is this. Like all I said was the hater. Definitely not in any capacity. Oh, they reported on the electric shock collar. They van latheed you. No, they did not. That's why he's holding a grip against them. No, they did not. But whatever metric y 'all need to do to move reality, all I said was the fact that TMZ is considered a substantial news source and is more than reality, and TMZ is handling business more than all the independent journalists who actually know Flacco in real life is fucking disgusting. That is what I fucking say. So you're surprised that the company that is a media company that's one of the biggest names and has a huge office full of employees working with them full time had more of an ability to gather the facts than one person.

2:21:16Yes, beyond gathering the facts. No, because it doesn't require anything but a couple fucking subordinates. that'll look up shit on reddit that's not right but they did it and all of all of our friends did not that and that is my point and that is what is gross to me so you're saying this this cum rag publication can do this due diligence but like you're shitting on tmz you're supposed to be shitting on our friends yeah shit on flaco i'm sure and i wasn't the only logical thing to be drawn from this is oh our friends in the youtube space need to do a better job when they're reporting on this shit because TMZ just absolutely wiped the fucking floor.

2:21:51He's saying the bars in hell is what he's saying. That is saying the bars. TMZ is the bar is insane when just maybe unless something dramatic has happened in the past few years that I'm unaware of. TMZ is a celebrity news gossip. They're pretty accurate. TMZ has a reputation for being at the absolute forefront of reporting on breaking news. I don't think I'll see you ever lose it. You trying to take that away from me was insane. And look at how much time we just wasted talking about this. We're supposed to be talking about Anne Hefe. We can't even get a fucking Anne Hefe clip because you want to argue about the most obvious shit ever.

2:22:23Lushy face. Lushy face. Lushy face. You got it, bro. You got it. You got it. Just let it go, Lushy. You got it. You got it. Shut the fuck up so we can move on, Lushy. No, you got it. TMZ wouldn't even be tough if it wasn't no jumper calls. That's what put it in a market. You know what I mean? For sure. That's the whole reason. For the celebrity angle. Right. Back to Anne Hefe. Less about TMZ. Free Anne Hefe. He didn't do it. Okay, but I feel like I'm getting a lot of grief for being open-minded about what happened. I'm not going to sit here and say I know Anne Heffey is innocent when I obviously don't know that.

2:22:55And every single thing in terms of what the cops are saying he did, it's more likely that the cops are right than that it's just somehow seriously wrong, right? That is not true. That is not true. So you think when somebody gets arrested for murder that there is a less than 50 % chance that they are guilty? All the time. Yes. If they're a gang member in L.A., I just went to jail for murder. multiple murders that I really did not do. But some of them you did do. Yes, but not all of them. I'm convicted. I'm convicted for manslaughter. They can't recharge me. But I didn't know. I did not do everything I was charged with.

2:23:29You got more hats than a lid store, buddy. I'm sure LA gang members are getting wrapped up in bullshit more often than a regular person. You know what I'm saying? Bring me a water, please. You got one right. I'm not saying one or the other. How's everyone looking? Yeah, so what I will say with the law enforcement, they definitely have dirty tactics. and as far as like disarresting you, hoping and hopes somebody says something, they put you in a cell. And I hope that is the case with Ann Heffer. I'm just keeping an open mind. I'm not going to say that I know he's innocent when I don't know him.

2:23:58Okay, so look, this is how the L.A. This is how the L.A. County Sheriff works, and this is how the L.A. County District Attorney works. What they do, they do something called trumping up charges. So they will arrest you for something, and they will hope something's thick. They arrest you for murder, knowing damn well this is a manslaughter case. But they'll be like, you know what? Your maximum exposure time is 25 to life. But if you take this year for three with half or six with half for this manslaughter, you can leave court today and you will have a second chance at life. And you'll be sitting there like, I didn't do shit.

2:24:34What the fuck do you mean? But when your maximum exposure time is life, they scare you into taking a deal. I know multiple people who were innocent. I'll get you to tell us. Okay, but just because you know multiple does not make it more likely that a person who's arrested for murder is innocent. Like, obviously, once you've been charged with murder, like the level of evidence that is required for them to be able to arrest you in the first place means that they have to have a substantial amount of evidence. It's not murder, essentially after the fact. It's not murder. He's not charged with murder.

2:25:10He's charged with felony murder. Okay. Felony murder means during the act of something y 'all had going on, somebody died. Right. So they didn't intend to kill him. No. Or you never know what anything could happen, but it's not a felony murder. And under 1437, they can't even really give you life for felony murder. They can't give you no real time for felony murder. once they do their full investigation once they listen to all them phone calls we gonna figure out what's really going on because from what I to my understanding they basically just tripping because he never said nothing he didn't do nothing we should check out this post that apparently just went up so many people sent this to me I haven't seen this yet it looks crazy but also I see people do this when they look The headphones aren't working, so this is going to be...

2:26:04Well, mine aren't. Anyway, maybe. Check, check, check. What? So you participating in a buffoonery, though. By doing what? By watching a clip from this podcast? No. What podcast is it? It's the Tuesday show, Ant Hefe. It's the Tuesday show that happens right after the closest to the incident. That's he's accused of. This is a clip from the Tuesday show. Yeah, so this is a clip from the Tuesday show. It's called Fans Dig Up Old Clip of No Jumper Host Young Ant Hefe checking on his knuckles on live days after the alleged dp gone wrong that left a man dead and i mean sporty face with all due respect what the fuck are you talking about how is this police work to watch a clip from a podcast that is going viral in which you know it's a clip from this podcast it's out there like do you think that like this is going to come up in court like oh like adam reacted to this clip on a stream so therefore it's probably true all right so so to be fair i get you gonna do whatever you're gonna do whatever to react to but i just want to know how this could negatively impact and this could negatively impact and i feel like this is propaganda you know i'm saying and it's clearly clarity is not true to paint how is that clear huh why is that clear what that is that is it true yeah all right let's say for instance it ain't true i know it's not true to be true let's say it is true that mean that's we now we're doing police work we want to show them and all this but i get it but police work would be like obtaining actual information this is just us watching a clip that somebody else posted in which it claims that you know it's framed in a certain way for sure yeah let's check it out that's that's immigrants oh yeah no for real i don't rock with that shit and what you mean it's not stolen they went viral remember they whipped out the ice ice man and got on that people get ash put them on his pockets Did that happen?

2:27:48I didn't see that. Yeah, that was viral. What is that? In context, it looks crazy, but I've seen the homies do it. He's kind of like a cat. He's licking his hand and moving his hair to the side. Yeah, homies ashy between their knuckles. So you're calling Han Jefe ashy? Y 'all are crazy for that. But when you wash your hands a lot. Those are fighting words. You're going to be next. I mean, it is what it is. That's my bro. That's all I was. If anything, he was just ashy. He was putting a little spit. Us black people do that from time to time. If you wash your hands a lot, your hands get ashy. I do it all the time.

2:28:17You think he's overly clean. Yeah. Right? But look, so. That's all he did. If this was accurate, right, in the L.A. County jail or any, once you get into a fight, the police tell you, hey, they put everybody on their bunk and they lift their hands out. Right? And they come and they be like, your hand looks swollen. Your hand looks swollen. You were just involved in a serious altercation. they could like run back and be like oh look this is evidence that his hand was involved in you know physical altercation that is how this is doing some police work so that's why i'm like uh but when you look at it the fans is reaching you can clearly see he was just ashy because he going in between the knuckles you could kind of tell it's not on the knuckle okay but if he was punching some shit he would be rubbing the knuckle did you guys see the clip in which he's he's basically it's like right after this alleged murder situation and he's basically like talking shit to whack and he's basically like like okay whack remember whack was saying like oh and if they got a dp coming his way and then and was like responding to that and ant was saying like i don't know why whack is talking about shit they could end up putting somebody in jail or whatever and like looking back on it now it seems weird and and is even saying that there's basically a dude from hra that talks to whack to be telling whack shit that he's not supposed to know so there is a whole puzzle of different things that little bread crumbs bro i don't know i'm just i'm intrigued by this whole situation and i'm not going to be just sitting here saying oh yeah he's innocent because he's i get that i i definitely assume it's innocence until proven guilty you know i'm saying until i see some type of evidence that would uh sway me otherwise and i haven't beyond him being like the homie i literally like objectively have not seen any evidence that points to specifically him being guilty of what they're alluding to.

2:30:09It's a couple of funny things, but it's all kind of circumstantial for sure. And I'll lie for Ann Hefe. I lie for my homies all the time. I sat on here and said, I've never seen Brick Baby with a gun. I don't fucking lie about anything. But I mean, ultimately, am I going to just, I'm going to absorb the facts. But you feel like this is absorbed enough to be like, maybe he did, you know, or maybe the cops are onto something. I just haven't been presented by it. Everything all together. Every video that's been made, every piece of information that's been provided to me is not nothing that's swayed me one way or the other.

2:30:40It has come to you objectively. Who's going to do an interview with the fucking guy's family? Because I see them pretty heavy on social media. Yeah, the daughter's jumping out the window. She said, fuck, no jumper, too, in that post. Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, for the record, lady. I mean, we in no way endorse any sort of behavior like that. I don't know what the fuck happened. I hope it didn't. I hope Ant didn't do anything. but I understand you're probably just angry at no jumper, but by no means is our, our, our goal to make light of your father's death or anything. Absolutely. Absolutely not our intention at all.

2:31:14So hopefully we're, but not yet. This is some bullshit. This is, you know, your father, you know, your father was, your father wants somebody in jail. You know, your father, you know, what type of activities your father was involved in. And you know, if your father was an active gang member or not, do you think your father will want somebody in jail? That's a good point. Probably not, I'm going to guess. Yeah. I want nobody to go to jail. They put my shit in the payment. Jail sucks. Family's always going to push for that, though. Even if you're a gangster. But your family should want what you feel like is best for you.

2:31:48You would think so. I got family. My family tell me, hey, I want to be buried this way. I'm going to respect all my family's last wishes. Period. I feel like it's for them more than it's for you. We want justice for us. For us to feel better, we're not worried about the person who lived their life. I get that. I didn't say it before, gang of times, anything happen to me, just don't tell my mama. I already know what my mama gonna do. You know what I'm saying? My brothers and my pops and shit. I thought you were saying your mama's gonna slide. No, my mama ain't about that life at all. But don't tell my mama.

2:32:28You know what I'm saying? because niggas go to jail and they get life in jail and become podcasters or they get married and get pussy I mean somebody did say that like how long until we see and have been making videos in there the same way he was making videos on the outside because honestly the production quality ain't going to change too much it was pretty much just him and a camera off the phone yeah the sound might be better how is that justice a nigga getting life if they go to jail and get a little nugget ring a little thin chain marry a fat bitch have sex every 90 days some conjugal come up, start a fucking YouTube channel.

2:33:01That's not equal. I want the nigga that dirt me to get dirty. But that's why I say don't tell my mama nothing. We should do a 20 versus one for Anhefay while he's locked up and just have it over a video chat or something. I like this. So we can find him a girl to give him money while he's in there and shit. You can't get a video chat in the county? Nah, but hopefully he stays in the county and then gets out of the county. But if he does find a more permanent home, he's going to be home soon. not gonna happen please not gonna happen free the alter ego yeah it's like it be about due process man sometimes you just gotta go through the process you know me like in a sense of proven guilty free alter ego to alter ego free and I'm not mad at you I don't even know that side because you don't come from that walk of life but what they do is like they they like to close cases so a lot of people they go to jail for shit they didn't they didn't do you know what I'm saying and especially if they want you bad like oh munchie you know what I'm saying because I know you're going to do time for the shit you did in the past and not now because that's how they get down.

2:34:02They really don't even crack cases. I'm telling you. It should be crazy. They try to close cold cases. I got a gang of homies that's in there for what the other homie did. So what the other homies are supposed to do, look out, bro. You need to look out because you know you did that shit, bro. And the homie, he didn't tell on you. He's sitting there doing 30 years or something for some shit you did. And there's a lot of that going on. So I understand why you look at it, how you look at it. But I know the police is tricky in how they get down, for sure. Especially in L.A. Police will take you to jail and try to max you out just to get you to talk.

2:34:37Yep. To get you to tell. Well, that was my first thought. It was like, oh, they want. That's what my initial thought when I heard that hepe got busted. Because all I really know of him is like this. like podcasting and just my experience with him over here and he's been nothing but professional and he's just solid dude yeah obviously i know about the reputation and like but that's not who i met that sounds like telling you're telling on him all right you stole it i mean you're saying he has a reputation i mean you're basically saying he did yeah not trying to implicate him i'm just saying i mean the fact that this was a guy that did several years in federal prison yeah and it wasn't for killing people either for sure okay for sure this if this is true it'll be the first time I ever knew somebody who killed somebody in a way besides a gun.

2:35:22That alone is kind of wild, right? That you know. That I know. I'm curious to why Lush is mad at TMZ more than he mad at the people that actually. I didn't say I was mad at the situation. You're going to find the real killer. Again, it's so crazy. This is new TMZ. Please, we cannot talk about TMZ anymore. Please. He's mad at the situation, the bar being set by TMZ. That's what he's upset about. Between five people, there'd be like a modicum of comprehension. But literally anybody will tell you that TMZ is the king of breaking news. I hear what you're saying. I just don't get the overall point as much.

2:35:53Lutz tried to make it like that was not the case, but it is. Yeah, I was wrong. The bar is in hell. Sorry, I was wrong, guys. TMZ is at the top of the pile when it comes to breaking news. Nobody could ever deny that. It's a huge waste of time. He didn't argue that. You even saying well right there instead of just saying yes, I know is insane. Again, that wasn't my point. I never said they weren't. I said the fact that a publication known primarily for entertainment adjacent. And breaking news. That's a shit. You and your Kyle, Tim. You're going to fight somebody or try to say something about somebody.

2:36:22You know, I ain't going to fight you. But I'm going to say no. Smote, you read good and stuff, right? What type of question? You think he's retarded because he's black? That's kind of racist. Damn, bro. No, I'm referring to the chat. I'm just referring to the fact that the entire chat is like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. When you have to go to the chat, it's a sad day for you. That shows the IQ level, though. You know what I'm saying? That shows the IQ. Yeah, that's what's being given to you. No, it's because they want to troll. They want to back you up when you're obviously wrong for content. Yeah, they're trolling.

2:36:53Okay, so what is your preferred AI that I should ask if TMZ is known for breaking news? I just don't get the question. Because we already fucking looked it up right in front of you, and you still won't acknowledge that it's true. You got this. TMZ at a point in time, right? No, he was on there. They wrote an article about him getting fucked with a dog collar on. Again, not true. Again. All that shit is super funny, but you know what's even funnier? The fact that I smoked you so bad in a debate you won't even vote to poll. Okay, Lush. That's what's even funny. Are you seriously still sitting here on a podcast trying to say that TMZ is not renowned for being at the forefront of breaking news?

2:37:30Again, that's not what I said. Okay. Lush, Lush. Give me one sentence that encapsulates your argument and make it simple because you have a tendency to filibuster the fact that uh a rag publication one sentence simple keep in mind one sentence i got to say one sentence before you cut me off i know but immediately calling them a rag public publication flies in the face of what we want daddy you tell us something objective that we can discuss here that is that is opposition to what i was saying tell me how you want me to phrase all right nobody say anything unless you go the fact that a notoriously entertainment based adjacent publication is the first is breaking more substantial news and then the people that are supposed to be friends with flaco is insane to me that was my initial point from the jump there and all you got to do is pick up the tmz is widely considered to be at the forefront of breaking celebrity which anathema is pop culture and entertainment news known for its unparalleled speed and aggressive network of sources and keep in mind this is the second time i looked this up and read it to you the outlet regularly breaks major scandals and stories before traditional mainstream media organizations this very much debunks everything that you have said about what do you think about like i don't know unless he goes into a different realm because he's a host on no jumper.

2:38:53Oh, okay. He's a celebrity. Unmatched speed. I'd love to hear what the chat has to say about this. That kind of lends itself to my point, though. No, it absolutely does not. No, it absolutely does because if that was the point, then you would, just like the, Anjefe is a celebrity, Anjefe has a preexisting relationship with these individuals that are... Why are you talking about that? We're talking about TMZ. But that's going to make them do more due diligence? That was a semantic of... Is what you're saying? That was literally the whole entire thesis of my point, which I've now stated more time.

2:39:24You think the poetic flocco has a better reputation for breaking news than TMZ? That is the insane thing that you're saying. He should be held to do more due diligence than TMZ. The fact that a celebrity news column is doing more due diligence and extending more grace to somebody that all of these independent journalists, which have been taking over the entire media space, independent journalism, The fact that they're doing that more than people that actually know Flacco. I mean, Jefe in real life is absolutely deplorable. That was the thing that I said initially. That's the thing that I said every single time since then.

2:40:04My point has been mischaracterized, taken out of context. I haven't wavered. And I've been right. That's not right, though. You sound insane. Feigning shock that TMZ is more accurate at breaking news than poetic Flacco is fucking insane. And the fact that you have spent so much time making this insane argument that you won't just admit that you're fucking wrong is insane. All right, let's move on. There's better examples than TMZ. This is embarrassing podcasting. Not crazy. I think there's just a better example than TMZ. Yeah. I mean, it's just absurd to act like TMZ is not at the forefront of Ray Cochran.

2:40:39Again, not what I said. I didn't say they were or not. I know, but you have yet to make a coherent point at all. I've made several coherent points. No, you haven't. You haven't made any point. I kind of understand what you said the last time, but you wasn't saying it like that i just i feel like it's the most torturous thing when someone's blatantly wrong and won't admit it on the fucking podcast and you haven't even been able to like explain the thing that you're arguing because it is so lacking in no i've explained it several times but i don't want to i feel like if i continue to argue it it's gonna like yeah it's super compromising my job or some shit you're not gonna lose your job just because you're making one dumbass argument i'm just asking it oh why would a poll prove it because we have the ai we have We asked the AI twice for you.

2:41:21We did it twice. Why won't you pull up a poll there? Why would you think that a poll would be more accurate than the AI? Because the AI is not, you're not even properly. I would love to hear the chat arguments. You think that your opinion about TMZ is more valuable than Gemini, which is kind of insane. He was giving TMZ that credentials in comparison to the three people that's more close-knit. Yeah, but it's like the people that are close-knit are like squares from Delaware. They weren't in the streets with ants where they could, like, call people in the hood and give information on them. an actual newsroom in which have a point bro an actual newsroom points no filibusters an actual newsroom that every day has a staff of hundreds of people where their job is to track down breaking news about everything tmz famously has reporters embedded within the la county court system so that they have early access to reports that are coming out from the legal system to act for a second as if they don't have an unbelievable reputation for breaking news when that is like the number one thing that people criticize them for is fucking stupid and lush fuck you for wasting so much time talking about it on this podcast is this some ego driven shit like no it's me being mad at you for wasting so much of the fucking podcast instead of just admitting that you are wrong but you're unable to concede a single point because you're not what is the what do you think i should concede what should i concede you're not even you're not no stop what should i concede what am i wrong about what should i concede so what my point was i'm going to reiterate no what should i concede i don't want to talk about anything besides that what should i concede did i say right i'm trying to what did i say that was wrong what you said wrong is you're trying to you're trying to say that i said that tmz is an inaccurate publication that is not what i said you think that they should be held to a lower standard than poetic flocko for some reason well i say when they have a sterling reputation for this exact sort of thing i think there seems to be a disconnect here and um okay please clear up that disconnect yeah because nobody understands yeah i'm sorry smithers let me talk to mr burns i'm just saying bro if you were making a cohesive point i'm gonna make a fucking point people on this platform i don't fucking get it so make it clearer bro no clearly you're not i hear you all the fucking time nothing i think your desire to suck adam's dick supersedes your intelligence no bro you're saying clearly you have a reputation for sucking my dick as well well well i guess the reputation is being broken because i'm standing up because you're so married to the idea of being right but you also you can't no no no you're right master hey hey we just ceded the floor to you okay you acting like you're a black person is insane no but what i'm acting like you're acting like a slave is amazing well you're going out okay lush we already ceded the floor to you again but i'm gonna give you another shot tell me what i need to admit okay we got your point wrong but what It's the actual one.

2:44:08And also, why is your mic sideways? You've been here too long. You know that's not how a mic works. Yeah, I'm so sorry about the mic being sideways. That's an imperative thing. The goal of a podcast is to talk into the mic. That's an imperative thing for us to be acknowledging right now. What I said several times, I'm saying again, is the fact that a rag publication, a.k.a. a news publication. The most accurate publication in this genre. Let him get his shit off. Don't let me talk. Don't let me talk. God forbid I say something. You're smearing them as a rag publication, but you have not said one single thing to justify that.

2:44:36All you had to tell me is that we have a super deep pre-existing relationship with TMZ, and I wouldn't have even brought it up to you. We don't. I don't understand. I love TMZ. They've been great to me, but I have no reason to offend them. Blacko and Young and Hefe's associates, his so-called friends, should have done a deeper background investigation before they put out any type of news. The fact that TMZ did a deeper background check says a lot about how sincere and how accurate and have a friend. That would be like yesterday. I would have that opinion. I was born yesterday. Yo, Lush, Lush. It would be.

2:45:20Why do you think so high of Flacco's? It would be like if the Lakers. No, no, no. Let me make my point. It would be like if the Lakers beat a local high school team. And then we were like, hey, it's pretty telling that this high school team lost to the Lakers. No, it's not telling of anything. They're the fucking Lakers. They're the best in the world. It's not about TMZ is the best in the world. It's not about you fucking Jake. All you have to do is admit you're losing. It's about exhibiting more motherfucking integrity than people that we thought. We're not talking about integrity. We're talking about breaking news.

2:45:55Who thought they had integrity? Clearly. We thought Flacco and guy integrity. That's all I understand. TMZ's purpose is not to have integrity. It's a break news. Don't mind fucking Homer Simpson. I'm in fucking sector 7G. I know Smithers and fucking. The people to. The people to. The people to. The people to. The people to. I think Flacco has credibility. You fucking cocksucker. You think Flacco has credibility in reporting news accurately? I thought he was a little bit more behind me. Okay, then you're just retarded then. That's fucking crazy. The dude just put a fucking body. Yeah. Draco's body on some random fucking dude.

2:46:22If anything. What are we talking about? Flacco's videos are largely obviously like parody, if anything. That's a tabloid. How many times do you watch a Flacco video and it's almost like the reason why you're watching it is because it's kind of hilarious to see him spin facts in a direction to fit a point when you know that that is not a logical point to be drawn from the shit that he's putting together. For me, it's the majority of the time. Do you think that there's certain videos that Flacco might be inclined or certain topics that Flacco might be inclined to cover, but he doesn't because he fucks with or doesn't fuck with certain individuals?

2:46:57But he didn't feel that way. All the time. That's another reason why I don't think that he's like the media authority that you seem to think he is. So if he doing that, why would he not stall out his supposed homeboy? Because they have beef already. That was all fake little patch it up shit. He had beef with Aunt Hefe when he came onto No Jumper. And also I think Flacco was again. my bad when it comes to content hey you guys was right sorry he made a whole video about me being racist I mean I can tell you that I ain't racist yeah you guys was right thank you Lush hey what did you call Moose oh Smithers yeah because I don't think Flacco is fucking CNN sorry bud he finally has a chance to call somebody else a dick sucker and it's in the fucking Most awkward fucking point ever.

2:47:46Whatever y 'all say doesn't matter. You feel me? Yeah, you think Flacco's an amazing reporter. None of us do. None of us do. I got a pair of Timberlands in my blood. One of them is named Adam. The other one is named Moose. You feel me? A pair of Timberlands smoked y 'all boots. Hey, Lush. That was so gay. That was Doughboy level gay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I understood you saying your last go around, right? I thought his name was Duboy. That's how it's spelled. Duboy. He needs to throw an E in there for sure. Do better. Do better. I really hate it. It has to be shit like that, but it is what it is, bro.

2:48:25Nobody's offended. It's work on making more sense. Acting like you're on this grandstand hill. Just admit it when you're wrong. You guys know that y 'all died a really horrible death in this argument. Are you fucking delusional? You are fucking insane. I don't have to look at the fucking big, fucking ass chap that loves you. Because I don't want to satiate your bullshit desire to be right on this. I thought that Adam owned the platform. Wouldn't they be more inclined to suck his dick? No, they like you more in the fuck. When you argue with Adam, they're going to side with you to go against Adam.

2:48:52You should apologize for saying that, too, because that was such an illogical statement. Oh, yeah. You know that's not how it goes, bro. From the birth of the podcast, obviously, they want to give me a hard time. You always want to fuck with the boss, right? No, definitely. Lush definitely on the chat, though. I ain't going to hold you. Yeah, but that's because they're trolling. Oh, yeah, that's why. Or they might actually agree. They think Flacco is a great fucking reporter. That's completely accurate. And I would offer to search something up on the AI again, but you already got your boots smoked twice in a row on that.

2:49:22Yeah, no, I totally did. No, you did. I bet you did all the time. I was saying two different things. It's kind of annoying that he's acting like he's being sarcastic, even though he actually got his ass kicked. Anyway, let's talk about Ray J. Ray J got knocked out at brand risk. I was there. It was insane. and then he immediately pivoted into claiming that basically he had intended to fake the fight. Snitching. But self-snitching. As well as snitching on his opponent. He said that they arranged it to be that way. What he did was they called us. They called us, come on. Because he got knocked out.

2:49:56He got knocked out. He said, bro. But really he didn't snitch because he snitched on himself but not the other dude because the other dude didn't go through with the plan. Yeah, but the fact that there was a plan is pretty insane. to commit betting fraud. That could get Superhot not paid for show and kicked out of Brandris. Nah, I don't think either of them are getting paid. That's fixing the fight. Keep in mind that Superhot has fought like five or six times on Brandris. I think that's a federal crime. That's what I'm saying. Because of the betting shit and the interstate interstate communication, bro.

2:50:25They broke some serious... The baseball dude, the pitcher for the Dodgers. If they do discovery, if they subpoena Ray J's text, he's done. He's going to wish he was dead. Bro, Superhot and Ray J getting locked up over the brand was fixed is crazy. No, Superhot ain't going to get locked up because he didn't go through. But he agreed to it. He agreed to it. They find proof of him agreeing to fix the fire. Superhot fire is going to fucking tell on Ray J. Ray J going to tell on Ray J. He already did. They're going to have a snitch off his show. He was supposed to win, right? I think he wanted him to go to distance.

2:50:54Basically, they had a plan to fight all three rounds and not have a decisive winner. And that way they could both get paid. And neither of them would have to take the reputation on damage. because it does stand out to a lot of people. Like, if you're a Ray J and you're, like, incredibly famous and you haven't really boxed, why would you get in the ring against somebody like Super Hot Fire who's been training boxing for 10 years? I don't think he's in the ring. He has had a lot of fights. And he's dying. But to just do that. I mean, not having money, sure, is a good argument. But also, like, bro, it's such a bad mark on his record, you know?

2:51:27He's bleeding out his eyes, guys. He's bleeding out his eyes. They might just catch you. I hope nobody had no expectation for Ray J to even go in there. Don't Ray J like... Huh? But that's his ops, bro. That's his Carson ops. No, no. He put fake Zesty allegations on the homie. That's crazy. No, he does have the agency. Why is he going to DP you for that? Okay, now look, look. Damn. Before even gangbanging, you can go look at that Sexy Cannot album. He says, shout out, special thanks to Stutterbox. That's my father. Ray J used to be at my house in Woodland Hills on Calatrana. And you still think he's Zesty?

2:52:05Where did it all go wrong? Ray J. I'm going to keep it to myself. That's what I'm going to say. I'm going to keep it to myself. Damn, so you know about his Zesty streak? He does have the gay agency and all the trans girls shows and shit like that. Why he just won't just say, like, hey, I don't like dick? I mean, Whack do too. I think Ray J is the plug for Whack. Yeah, I think. Just kidding, Whack. Just kidding. No, but Whack has, like, squads of, like, gay people and shit like that. I don't know nothing about Whack doing anything or being in. communication with sexually communication with the transgender.

2:52:40Yeah, yeah, not sexually. But if he did. Like employing them, putting them on shows, shit like that. When I was younger, when we was going to the gym, Ray J had something with green hair sitting in his living room. And it wasn't a girl. So you've seen Ray J with trans women in the past? Yes. Damn. I don't believe that. Way back then. You want to make the phone call? You want to call my dad? Yeah, make the phone call. Yo, dad is Ray J. Dad is Ray J. Fuck that. Y 'all got Ray J. Y 'all got Ray J. Nah, hell nah. Now I hit it first. That's a new meaning in this context. You're going to have to hold it to the mic.

2:53:32See if he answers, you know you're old now. What's up, Riley? Hey, what's up? Hey, pops, I'm up here at No Jumper, right? Yeah. Hey, when you picked up Ray J to go to the gym, what did Ray J have inside the house? I can't rest at him. Six out of the morning. What color was his hair? Purple, green, with some laces on. But I act like I... Six in the room? Six in the room. Had a three-story townhouse. And the bar was downstairs, so I seen the Ferrari in front. I kept knocking, kept knocking. So he ran downstairs and said he was asleep. Something just told me to walk downstairs. And the motherfucker was sitting on the edge of the fucking couch.

2:54:17And I came back upstairs. And his eyes just got big, and he looked at me. I said, come on, let's go get this working here. I acted like I didn't even see it. Yeah, okay. And that was what? The Sexy Can't Out album, or was that? Which album was that? 60 Canna, I don't know. 60 Canna, 60 Canna. And they got your name on the back of it. It says special thanks to Stutterbox, right? Yeah. All right, that's all I wanted to know. I love you. I'm going to call you later, all right? Teeth Carson, Lord, huh? Just casually outrage for his zesty past, allegedly. No, I'm just saying so you should expect for him to bro.

2:54:51Zesty Canna.

2:54:55Zesty Canna. If I had one trans. If I had one trans. To be fair, just because, you know what I'm saying, you got sugar you don't take on me, you can't fight, though. So I don't think the... Yeah, no, they can fight. Dejon got hands. Bro, you know how many brothers love knocking down trans chicks? Like, that's the fucking stereotype. Why brother? Why brother? That's what the trans girls tell you. No, they do not. Yes, they do. It's all black dudes trying to fuck them. Bro, where's you getting your information from? I swear, it's Mexicans on Fig fucking the little girls, and it's black dudes fucking trans chicks.

2:55:25All right, if that's the case. And then the white dudes just touch their own kids. Who are the trans? White dudes, we just chilling. White dudes are the trans. The white dudes are the trans. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We be getting fucked. We got the surgery. They are the white trans. They are the trans. They taking BPC. I'm a trans. Yo. I don't think nobody had no expectation for him to go in there and do it. You can see that shit was good. Like, you see, he was like. He didn't swing the whole first round. Super hot. Yeah, super hot. Didn't swing the whole first round. He was biding his time. He was waiting for the setup.

2:55:56It was supposed to be what, third round knockout? I feel like it was like he just in that moment, because he got the muscle memory. Ray J ain't been fighting like that, but Super Hot Fire really trained. I don't think he was trying to knock him out. When they're actually kind of trading fake blows, I think he couldn't help it just bow. Or the other version of it, if you're Super Hot Fire and Ray J tells you, yo, let's throw this fight, Super Hot Fire, I just did interview him. I think he really, really, really cares about boxing, and he really loves winning. For sure he does. So I think that in that moment, he kind of thought, Like, yeah, I'm going to let him.

2:56:28Because if you tell him, hey, don't knock me out. All right, cool. Boom. Now you get to just knock him out. That's beautiful. And Superhot's a super troll. So he could have been like, yeah, let's fix the fight. And then go in there and take his head off. It's such a good look for him to beat Ray J. It's not like he just beat some random dude. He could have beat Ray J regardless. Yeah, he would have beat him no matter fix or not. So Ray J wouldn't have done the fight unless they agreed to it. That's true. I don't think he would have took the fight if he knew it was going to be a real fight. Question.

2:56:55so now does this help Blueface case no because it's the opposite because Blueface was claiming that Aiden Ross and them were basically like manipulating the fight somehow because they could make money if Blueface lost but from this perspective they basically were like because Blueface saying hey I cheated is what it would have to happen for it to be like the Ray J thing I know it's the opposite when I'm just me and just like this fraudulent stuff going on The integrity of Brand Risk is at cost with this, for sure. This is the thing. I talk to Brand Risk. They are furious. They are probably going to sue Ray J.

2:57:33They're definitely not paying him. No, the integrity of Brand Risk is consistent because they're showing they don't tolerate any fuck shit in any of their fights in any capacity. And every single time there's even been questionably one, starting with Adam's fight where they even tried to, when he actually did. They're on his helmet. He did actually try his best to fight. Just like the fact that there wasn't. Try his best. I showed up. Yeah, yeah. He was there. There was no fix in there. I know it's totally opposite. I wish I had fixed it. I'm thinking, like, Blueface, you know what I'm saying, if he's still pursuing that back end, all his back end, does this help him?

2:58:09Like, hey, I told you. But, you know what I'm saying? I don't think so. Yeah, they would have to find some Brandriss, like, you know, rep being like, yeah, we're going to put this fix in and help y 'all. It's more reason for Brand Rest to aggressively pursue this situation. They need to show that they really care about bringing justice to this. I mean, it really makes you wonder how often this happens in real boxing world and other influencer fights. So if they don't, though, does that make them look bad? Hot is never going to fight there again. Because if they found out that he agreed to fix a fight with Ray J, and when Ray J got at him like that, he was supposed to go to the boxing commission and say, hey, somebody's trying to bribe me to fake a fight.

2:58:48Or just say no. Or just say no. Yeah, that's what he's supposed to do. But also, they said... He's not a gang member. But they announced this fight two and a half weeks ago. Yeah. So it's not really like a substantial amount of time for them to really like train. But they still cheated. Or he was supposed to tell Ray J no. Right. He was never supposed to say, hey, Ray J, I'm cool with this. He was never supposed to do that. Especially because he has such a good relationship with Bramis. He fought for them five, six times. They keep bringing him back. They've really built him up. and now they find out that Superhot Fire was apparently in on this fucking scam.

2:59:20I haven't talked to Aiden about it, but I can imagine. Black people can't keep shit, Greg. And that's the crazy thing. It's like he fucking robbed the bank and got caught and was like immediately just spilled the whole plan. Yeah, because Ray J like, nigga, I got income. Guess what? You didn't want to go with the plan? You broke, bitch. Ray J also to his credit, he got knocked the fuck out, so your brain ain't working right. CTE. You might just snitch on yourself. Or what if he's just trying to Faze Safe Faze Safe Face and he's just saying we had this fix and this whole knockout thing was like you know what I'm saying he just went on on a on a podcast and they kept asking him do you like boy but he said does that matter I have the agency so if you can't save face with that why do you care about save face about you who's in a fight he's deep in the Ray J homosexual I don't think he was trying to save face I think he was just mad that he got knocked out like I think they actually had a deal You just knocked me out I think he was hot at that point he didn't care about the money I would have I would have doubts about it But I heard Ray J admit to it on the phone like the next day So I just feel like Ray J was a dumb dumb dumb dumb Stupid stupid dumb To think that this man who can whoop your ass Y 'all gonna bet, you gonna bet on yourself.

3:00:38If you wanted to manipulate the game, you should have bet on him and then through the fight. That's what you shoulda did, but you got so much pride and you want, you want everybody to look at you in an aspect like you got a squabble and you super paru and all that bullshit. I was out the window when he did this Gajun C shit and all this extra shit and nobody... Okay, but if Ray J really is into trans women and Ray J did a whole reality show with a house full of trans women, that's really dancing with the devil and trying not to get burnt because that's coming so close to telling the world that you fuck with trans women without actually telling them that you fuck with trans women.

3:01:20Close, coming close. I think everybody assumes. The trans reality show is not implied, I don't think, on the show that Ray J's actually fucking them. It's not, but everybody kind of assumed it. Yeah, it's a reality show with a house full of trans women. It's like bad girls. I heard about it. I said, but trans girls, he's basically trying to like have a whole, he's trying to tap into that market. Essentially the gay market. Hey bro. He's selling his soul. It's like the ultimate niche market. It's like such a small market. Yeah. How many gay people are like, I want gay specific content. Probably this interview.

3:01:48Isn't it? I know. I think like 90 % of people are kind of weirded out by trans. Let's be real. Nobody wants to watch that shit on TV. Yeah. But other than those. Oh, 1 % of trans people. But on like a big level, like the Dykes on the Drewski show, people like them. They're funny. Okay. So no, look, but the average person, like people are weirded out by it. In prison, I used to have like five phones. I used to rent them out, right? For trans porn? No. We used to rent them out just for people like the, hey, here, I'll give you$100. You can have an overnighter. Every time I got my phone back, it was like my phone had an STD.

3:02:23Like, I'm telling you. We're going to wipe it down. And I know you weren't loaning it out to white dudes. Hey, Jay, what's up? I was. I wrote it out to everybody. You got my phone here. You got the money. You can use my phone. But yes. You got to give it a shot. You might like it. The Woods was looking at the trash. Yes. Kind of. We watched white on white gay porn. Oh, the Woods. The man's because he's watching BBC. Like, why y 'all watching BBC? Oh, come on. Mind of a saint, heart of a sinner. Damn, that's some ill shit. You get that at the beach or something? I got it from a renowned killer.

3:03:06Hey, Adam ain't materialistic. He would get it from the beach, though. Yeah, if he saw a shirt he liked on the beach, he's copping it. Jersey Shore shit. As long as he got a little gay sand on it, he'd get it. Yeah, yeah. As long as he got a gay sand. I'm not gay, but$20 is$20. That's the kind of shirt I got to get at the beach. He's definitely gay. If you see the police, Warner Brother. What question are you gay? Warner Brother. All right, I'm going to start reading donations. 100 Racks Nick said, Why Moose look like the Ralph Lauren polo bear? Hard fit, though. No hate. Hey, appreciate you. Had to come Harry Potter on him.

3:03:37That's a huge compliment. Keith Smith said, I don't hate Moose, but we don't want him on this pod, respectfully. If you need another gang member, I say you get Trigger Bird from Hoover. I think he would fit. A Crip of Blood and a Hoover. They say we're getting too creepy over here. I'm going to go get put on. I'll come back. My boy. Well, for being fair, guys, we do have a Nortonio, a Blood. An SA. woodpile and a different style of crip in J-Hood multiple crips Mr. John does a moose on the Tuesday show ha ha ha let me go ahead and turn this shit off shit headed in the wrong direction already okay this is not he's just here I invited him because I wasn't sure J-Hood was going to come this is not an Anne Hefe replacement this is not the Mexican Anne Hefe I could never replace Hefe this is moose Hefe Moose Cannon.

3:04:25It's a different thing. Get some more muscle. Moose Cannon, man. Yeah, Moose Cannon. Yeah.

3:04:31A For Real said, Moose is trash. Adam, you know this. God damn it. I don't know how Doughboy feels. Mark Black said, stop forcing Moose on us, bro. He is trash. And the more you force him on us, the more we dislike him. I disagree. Talk about boys' helmets. I love him. I love everybody. But he getting donations, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Run it up, man. Keep donating. It was a play. It was a play. It's a play. We cash it in. Yeah. Cortega said, why is Moose being forced on the fans? We don't like him. He has no personality. He's already on Mondays in the news. This shit is unwatchable with him on here.

3:05:01Free the alter eagle. I don't understand why they could have such a negative reaction to him. Yeah, free Moose. Yeah, free me. Cool. Bree said, 22 tried to act like he didn't know last week before the show and got booked diabolical. Okay, everybody was on the show. We can all attest to the fact that we found that out. The fucking Edgars looked it up in the middle of the pod, and we all sat there saying like, we were saying like, oh it's probably for nothing then we see a million dollar bail we like oh shit but you guys kind of knew something was up because he wasn't responding the phone was off that's what's the red we already knew something was up with the homies he said let's let's acknowledge the the elephant in the room we're in at this is not like him he would have been logged in something might could be wrong because even like the day before we had had like a separate group chat where we were going back and forth saying hey everybody get in at three so we can shoot this uh these reels to promote the live show blah blah blah and then he didn't show up at three okay and was late sometimes it wasn't that surprising but then like the homies tried to call him and his phone was off then we were like huh and then nathan looked it up it might have taken a few more days before everybody found out honestly if we didn't find out in that moment when they looked it up yeah no that ain't no play i don't i don't participate in plays hey hey but but i thought it was weird because if a nigga shit got a voicemail and he ain't on not disturbed that's kind of bad because black niggas don't like that shit going on.

3:06:21I mean, really, if like everybody you know, when do they have their phone off? Like, you know, it's just like very rarely your phone. You don't got no charger. You ready to go home? Yeah, D &D, but like you can tell when they're on D &D. Yeah, you call them right back and it goes through. No, no, no. My shit set up to where everything I go through. But, you know, the text is going to still say deliver when you're on D &D. Yeah, but also if you go to text them, a lot of times it'll say that they're on D &D, even though you can choose to have it not show that for everybody. Notify anyway. I recently became that.

3:06:48Yeah, I need to make sure my shit ain't Oh, Almighty is the king of that. He'll text me something that is not breaking news at all, not like important, and he'll hit the notify anyway. I love hitting that button. That's like a real street dude right there. Notify anyway, even when it's not important at all. Read this. And for the record, it's not like Almighty does that all the time. Free Almighty. Free Almighty. Speaking of, this new donation from The Sleaze said, wait, tomorrow for real? Yeah, tomorrow. Damn. He wrote. Or no, Thursday. I thought. Damn. That's crazy. He's not going to be able to see shame on you.

3:07:20um the that sleaze said free brick free jefe free almighty is everyone else going to be at the live show adam you should start a cheeseburger review why a cheeseburger although i do love cheeseburgers like uh dave got the one bite with the pizza you could do the one bite with the burger i feel like a lot of people kind of do that shit yeah they definitely do i need to start reviewing some like unorthodox food maybe i'll be like ice cream reviewer guy anyway yeah we're gonna have as many people from the no jumper squad as possible at the live show so definitely you guys are gonna even in the crowd like last time in the crowd lennon fucking sky bree are sitting right there the tons of people from the from the fans uh got to meet like all kinds of people and take pictures with them it's not really uh divided up too much between the the people on stage and the people in the audience like everybody's just kind of kicking in shit and if anything the meet and greet is just so they're like people who really want to make sure they can get a photo have the opportunity because as soon as we get done the show, we go outside and take pictures with more people.

3:08:17Yeah, if you want to hand you off, get the meeting. We will jerk you off. Facts said, Moose, why you press Doughboy for saying Beaner with no ill will but let Almighty use it minutes without impunity? You scary as fuck for that. Picking and choosing. Damn, shit. He's fucking beaning at you. I've never pressed Doughboy over saying Beaner, man. He's Mexican. Doughboy's like 25 % Mexican I found out recently. Wait, really? Yeah, yeah. No God. Chad, he's fucking beaming out. Yes. Yeah, but. That's when you black. Once you black, you black. No, no, he Mexican. I'm not allowed. Beaming out is hilarious.

3:08:54Yeah, beaming out is hilarious. It is really funny. It is so funny. Yeah. So he don't identify as a black man? No, he does. I never heard him say nothing besides just say he's black. But, I mean, he do kind of be like obscuring the truth. If I was like a quarter black, could I get the N word off? No. Yes. A quarter black? Yes, you do. All you need to do, all you need to be is not white. Once you got a little bit of black. You got the fucking N-word police over here, bro. That's crazy. A quarter black? If his dad is black. You can't, you will not qualify. My dad's half black. I can't say it. About nothing.

3:09:24You don't get it. Man, your gatekeeping the N-word is crazy. You're all black. He's a quarter black? You don't know what to say that shit? Dad was half black. Hey, bro. Rock out with your N-word out. You would see it in me for sure. No. 25 %? This podcast is not like the real world. or a crip, I'll let it fly. He feel differently about that. 90 % of the Mexicans in LA say it. Let me get it off. Because once you that, you black, bro. You a part of our culture. That's how I feel. Doughboy said white people should be able to say it. Doughboy, his opinion don't matter. He don't give a fuck about nothing.

3:10:03So you have to be 100 % black to say the N-word? Ain't nobody 100 % black. You gotta be Flacco or darker. Or identify. Well, he said, bro, it's half black, half next. He's lighter than you. You should tell him he can't say it. He like one shade lighter than you. Get on. If your father is black, your father is black. So are you running the 23 and me on the block just like walk up to people like, you got like the diamond detector, but for blackness, you like testing the skin. Just because pops got some Mexican or white pussy his son is not black? He said he's 25%. You asking me a question. Pops is half black.

3:10:42I think that's what it'd have to be. Mom is not black at all. Pops is half black. And then they have a kid. Pops is half black. Free the N-word. Struggle. 50 % black. They may either be called all type of niggas. Free the N-word. You tell me. We're ready. If you want the word to not have power, you guys just let everybody say it. The word probably wouldn't even have any kind of cultural cachet. Unless. Yeah. If you guys didn't fucking invent it and weaponize it against. I wasn't around back then. Yeah, but if that was the case, people should be able to say any derogatory towards any group of people.

3:11:12If we're going to say that the black people need to take the power away from the N-word, the gays need to take the power away from the F-word. That's why we say that shit all the time. Hey, do you think love should be able to say the N-word? Hell yeah. I told y 'all. I don't got a problem with nobody saying it. That's Doughboy's approach. That's just my approach. You ask five different people the same shit, you're going to get five different answers. I agree with that. My whole thing is... Black people got to get together and arrive at a conclusion. If somebody's sitting around me, I usually give them the courtesy, hey, look, bro, such and such, I try to holler at them, you know what I'm saying, respectful, you know what I'm saying, and they don't respect it, then I just start disrespecting them, and it just goes that, that's just me.

3:11:48Yeah, I know. That's crash level. You said the B word? That's not, that's not, yeah. That's crash level. How could you? Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, you said the B word? If I say, if somebody is, they have that dissent, and I ask them, hey, look, bro, I appreciated you, and they keep saying it. Nick Fuentes face over there. That makes you racist too. You're a racist. I'm not mad at that. You're like Hellcat. Shut up Hellcat. It makes me racist if I use a derogatory term to them, but they're not racist. No, they are too. You can categorize them as racist, but you're racist if you respond to racism.

3:12:19But you're worse because they're just a regular Mexican dude and you're on some woke shit. I'm not woke. So I'm a bad person because I'm woke? No, but I feel like you've got to be held to a higher standard. The response of racism is a bad part. When you're on the block wearing the robes and the little hat and shit, you got to be held to a higher standard than just a regular ass black dude saying the N-word because every single other person he ever grew up around said it. But like a black dude could say the beaner to me, I'm not going to respond with a hard R, you know what I'm saying? That's just not in me.

3:12:42That's just not my thing. That's not my whole thing. That's fine. That's fine. Because I'm not racist. But that's, a beaner is not like a derogatory... I'm racist, man. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. If a motherfucker disrespect me, if a motherfucker disrespect me, if a motherfucker disrespect my race... Listen, whatever the case is. If a black dude saying it to me, for sure. That's not disrespectful, though. It is, though, for sure. No, you say it like, don't be. Like, if it's a random dude. One of my homies could joke like that, but a random black dude come up to me and call me Beaner? He the same person who told Doughboy, Doughboy told him he could say the N-word.

3:13:13And I turned around and told him, would you let Doughboy call you the B-word with an R? Or would you, you know what I'm saying, a wet B? Then he said no. I turned around and told Doughboy, you see, like this. Why would you allow somebody to call you the N-word while you give them a pass and he wouldn't allow you? But he cuts it off because the full point is that we don't call each other Beaner. You know what I'm saying? We don't call each other. So there's some context there. We don't go around saying that in all our music. It's like when people try to do Cracker, it's like nobody wants to say Cracker.

3:13:43I can say Cracker all fucking day. To be fair, I respect everybody's culture. I don't disrespect. Yeah, yeah. I don't disrespect either. You don't respect racism. We are the culture. You're not culture. They definitely have different cultures. We'll fuck shut the Builder up. They definitely have different cultures. As you should. I will fuck shut the builder up. Yeah, same. He better keep that shit. No, for sure. If he came to California, his ass would have been in love and memory. Not by me, but I guarantee you. Somebody. I know how people get out here. I'm about to ring the N-word bell. Ding, ding, ding.

3:14:10Okay, next time. This one says, Adam, I never send any super chats because nothing I need to say is worth it, but I have to speak on behalf of the chat when I say, please don't force Moose on us for the Tuesday show. He doesn't fit. No hate. All right. Well, it's on all y 'all pod A &Rs to decide who you think should be on the Monday pod. Just in case you guys feel like he needs somebody else to augment him. Maybe you don't believe in the in the Doughboy operation. Let us know. Witty said, can anyone on the panel recite one Kendrick verse? That's not from They Not Like Us. I think not. Of course.

3:14:42Everybody. Absolutely. Everybody fake Kendrick fans. Kendrick. If Piru's and Chris all got a lot of... He got all kinds of shit. ADHD? Come on. Do they not know that? Hey, you have glasses, but he got a lot of bunk albums that everybody lies in such a good, too. There's a couple I didn't love, but to say that, Kendrick don't got no memories. He got a lot of weak-ass albums that nobody listens to. I don't like the word on rap. I don't like the word on rap. I like the butterfly. Good Kid. Good Kid, Matt City. Good Kid, Matt City. He was goaded. The best. I don't like to Pippa Butterfly. Me neither.

3:15:12Me neither. nah nah that's it that's the ultimate when drake says you you you like white kids listening to your music because it makes you feel whatever that's lush lush is the white number two he's talking about to vivid about or fly an album that nobody listens to besides woke white people

3:15:31it's the most woke album but it's also the most like unlistenable very musical and shit for sure yeah okay okay good good argument lush you just take some fetti what are you doing over there no He's chilling He looks like he's melting into the sea If we're going to refer To one of the most Like advanced albums In hip hop history Arguably one of the greatest Like releases Something that garnered A Pulitzer Prize And try to That's the problem That's what we judge Hip hop off of That you are For some reason Using a Pulitzer Prize To judge that shitty ass album No It's not a reasonable But that's the point Is that the types of people Who vote for the Pulitzer Prize Are the type of people Who like that album The streets Didn't give a fuck about that Let's be real That's true.

3:16:11He just very much gave a fuck about that album. What are you talking about? Hold on, bro. You're lying. You're using like super arbitrary. He's on feisty mode today. He's taking all the contrarian takes. I like it. K-Dot got two different lanes, bro. Good street music and weak-ass woke shit. He can switch it up, bro. You know what I'm saying? He got the music for this, and he got the music for these people. I'm going to listen to the Pimpy Butterfly again just so I can come back with hotter takes. He's a different type of fans, and he caters to all his fans. Facts. Drake does the same thing. That's just like if you own a burger stand, you're going to have a sloppy joke.

3:16:45You're going to have all beef. You're going to have a turkey burger. A little vegan burger. You're going to have a vegan burger. You've got to. When you want to have a vast, diverse group of fans, you have to cater to all of them. Actual facts. Man, if you want to choose a Kendrick album to deride or to try to make an example of, oh, this is corny, coffeehouse rap, choose, say, Mr. Morale. You know what I mean? Say Mr. Morale. I think it's just on par with that. in the same category. It's definitely not. It's like significantly more accessible. Y 'all go listen to it again. Maybe you're right.

3:17:16I don't know. Your appreciation for music is different and then you listen in for different things. Lush is checking his phone for when the TDE check hit. No, the PG Lang check. If anything, I thought I was compromised because here's the reality. I don't subscribe to either side of the spectrum. That's true. He's independent. I just think that right now, if anybody is falling victim to the psyop that you have to either support kendrick or drake you can't look at the overall reality of like hey these are the two artists that are moving the land the needle for the majority of the landscape of the culture and they both deserve insane props for what they're doing then you're kind of like looking at it from a in a perfect world that's how we'd view it no no no no no in a perfect world people aren't such fanboys are unable to give objective takes i have an objective take i like a bunch of kendrick albums and i don't like some of them as well you should be able to support both of you you just said so many words to try to take away my ability to have an opinion about an album but okay anyway jay chasing bag said a moose growing on me especially with the clean fits not gonna lie if you are watching this podcast for moose man's outfits you're gay as fuck but keep watching i focus with you shout out to you or you're just like a fashion dude yeah yeah you're a die work wear on twitter i'm the flyest fat boy ever been at no jumper for show uh facts for real for real said shout out to the members spody and mungie how how y 'all feel about adam using the using the phrase chimping out y 'all gonna let massa get away with that plan in your face okay so what i said that some of them decided was very offensive is i when i was in vegas there was at least one moment where we were acting crazy drinking taking shots and i used chud the builder inspired language about myself to say that we were chimping out i don't think that that is racist I think that if anything I was comparing myself to an actual chimp and I don't think that there's anything offensive about reappropriating the language of our oppressors which should be relatable you as a proud n-word sayer you're reappropriating the language of your oppressor because it's emboldening and when I say that I'd be chimping out that's exactly what I'm saying I never even heard of the term before yeah I mean either I never heard of that shit and that's some shit.

3:19:32Oh boy made up. It sound like right. It's like chat room. It's like racist chat. I never heard it before. But this is what I know. Black people as a whole, we tend to take the words of our impressors and make it fashionable. Even in LA gang culture you got dudes like the Harlem. Not this though. That's how the word nigga came out. I'm talking about this tipping off. It's not nothing that you can do. We'll never do that. I'm just anti people telling people what they can joke about. Especially with stuff that's like so it's so like not offensive. Like people are just dying to find something to get offended by.

3:20:09And I ain't going. Listen, you gonna have to I mean, you gonna have to have to go because you used to say some shit. Why you put a pack of cigarettes in your shirt? What the fuck is that? I'm on my greasing tip. That's what it is. If you say something for a defensive motherfucker decide to fire your face up then you can't sue nobody. No, I can't. You can't. And I will press charges. But listen, I'm pretty sure you will. But you can't say what's offensive or not. It's offensive to people. It might be offensive to everybody. I've never heard a black person say that it would be offensive for me to say it about myself.

3:20:40I understand why Chud the Builder using it against black people is offensive. But for me to say it about myself, it would be like me saying, hey, I'm a barrel of monkeys. Don't call yourself a monkey. That's offensive. That's being insensitive to people that he's saying. I didn't even know that black people were sensitive about that. I wouldn't do black people are some of the most sensitive people on the earth. But it's also because black people have been dehumanized by being compared to apes and monkeys all throughout history. I wouldn't even acknowledge the championship because I never heard of this shit before.

3:21:08So if I was to acknowledge it, I'd be giving it life. I've never heard of this shit. Some shit the weirdo made up that's getting fucked by the transgender. Apparently it's got a lineage like people have been saying. Yeah, exactly. I didn't really know that. The trope of comparing black people to like animals and shit has been something since slavery and minstrel shows and all that shit. And I am adamantly opposed to people doing that. This is a new iteration of that and to act like we could just reclaim that and just say, yeah, you can make jokes about anything you want, but is it, you know what I'm saying, kosher?

3:21:38I would say not so much. You know that. Man, if they came up with a new way to ditch the hood, I wouldn't know what the fuck they talking about. So I'm not acknowledging no bullshit, nigga. And just like Adam said, hey, when I was saying chipping out, I was looking over my shoulder. I was joking because I was with a bunch of black people. What the fuck do I care? I know, I like edgy humor. Yeah. I like edgy humor. That's what I'm saying. So if you be edgy and somebody fire your face up, don't press charges. Don't be like, right. So the only argument that you have is that somebody could beat me up.

3:22:08Like, you don't get mad. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. You want to be edgy. Don't, don't get mad at somebody fire your face up. Well, if they want to fire my face up, then don't be mad. If they get left right where they stand, because I don't know the fuck about that shit. But why is it? You're not going to scare me by being like, Hey, somebody might beat you up. Why not reclaim like the hard R? Don't make jokes that you think are funny because somebody might beat you up is a very bad argument. But you don't say like hard R jokes. No, but I don't think that's funny. And I do think that there's stuff that you shouldn't say because it's so offensive.

3:22:33So now there's a line, but you're saying people shouldn't be able to say there's a line. I don't think chimping out is over the line. Why do you get to decide that? That's what I'm about to say. No black person ever told me that they would be offended by this. And I'm finding that out live on the podcast yesterday. And apparently I was supposed to know that. It doesn't take Albert Einstein to know that fucking racist ass people have been comparing black people to chimps. But I'm not comparing a black person to a chip. I'm comparing myself to a chip. That's where it comes from, though. That's where it comes from.

3:23:00How? But I'm comparing myself to a chip. I understand what most men are saying. I'm just using language that I derived from a racist streamer who I was made aware of because of the fact that he was extremely viral. If you painted yourself black right now and put monkey ears on and said, I'm a monkey, you know, I'm just making myself a monkey, you're going to be canceled. Why would it be offensive for me to dress up like a monkey? Because that's crazy with the history of America that we're in here. You know what I'm saying? A monkey is literally the closest animal to us evolutionarily. But not just the monkey part.

3:23:28You're painting your skin black. It's the animal that I have the most. You'd be doing blackface to become a monkey. What if I painted a nice tan brown? It doesn't have to be a fucking black person thing. Black people don't just immediately have a monopoly over the existence of apes. What the fuck is that? They've been the ones that have been compared to them the most in America. This is you being so goddamn dumb. This is you being so enchanted by racism. Because they were so stupid. It's like you're so enchanted by racism. No, you have to find it in everything. You can't dress up like a monkey because a black person might think that I'm trying to dress up like them.

3:23:58No, you're ignorant to history. And so you pass through nuances of shit. And that's like fucking gaslighting black people into thinking I could say chimping out whenever the fuck I want. Even though this dude has been harassing black people and getting picked up. I don't have anything to do with him. The FBI think that chimping out is fucking racist harassment. We don't know that. That's what they picked him up for. No, no, no, no, no, no. They picked him up for for for shooting someone. No, the FBI picked him up before he was arrested and said, you're targeting black people by saying chipping out.

3:24:27Are you a part of an organization? He was using that phrase to dehumanize black people, which I quite clearly was not. I know, but it's hard to tell when you're a white dude that looks like Chud. No, it's not hard to tell. Yes, it is. No, it's not. Just because Bell is cool with it doesn't mean it's hard to tell. Nobody's mistaking me for Chud the Bilton. Nobody thinks that the way that I was using it is a racist thing unless they're really, really trying to stretch and reach for racism. If I heard you saying chipping out and I don't know Adam22, to i'm like whoa that's fucking crazy that's crazy that you guys are so desperate to find something to be offended by that but you can't but why don't we talk about i can't even talk about a monkey that's amazing why don't we reclaim the hard r you know who's racist jane goodall what was she doing out there why wouldn't we reclaim the hard r that's way older that's way already no a little bit it's like reclaim the hard r if we're reclaiming everything the the n-word with The hard R is way older than the monkey shit.

3:25:20Because one thing is offensive, all other things might also be offensive. No, but all these things have been used to oppress black people for centuries. We found out about chimping out like a week ago. No, but chimping out falls under the category of dehumanizing black people and comparing them to apes. But I'm reclaiming it. I'm not using it in a racist way. Then reclaim the hard R while you do that. Nobody has been able to explain to me why it would be offensive for me to reclaim that stuff. If you don't know history, then I can't contextualize it. I don't even know anything about the history of black people.

3:25:48And you should probably look it up. Why? You might have a different perspective. I have to know about everything that has ever occurred throughout history. If you want to speak on how things are going to go with black history going forward, you should have a little bit of sense about black history that's happening before. Chimping out dropped like a week ago. No, that's a category of dehumanization that's been a representation. You making assumptions about what black people should get offended by is the actual racist thing. I'm saying that chimping out is racist because it's comparing black people to apes.

3:26:13That is the most simple take ever. But I wasn't using it that way. I was saying it about myself. Yeah, and I'm going to use the hard R differently, but I don't mean it in that way. It's the same shit. So because something else is racist. No, this is racist. That is racist. Calling black people monkeys is racist. But I didn't do that. I think you're making a valid point, right? But I just know Adam, he got this dark humor. He finds shit funny. You know what I'm saying? But you're lacking a lot of awareness right now, Adam. I think I'm plenty aware. No, no, no. So that means you're doing it on purpose.

3:26:40No, I'm not. I just think it's funny. I think it's funny to take a phrase that was popularized by probably the most famous racist of recent memory and to recontextualize it, to describe myself smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol while I'm in Vegas. I think that that's funny to take that phrase that we all know about. We're all now aware of it. And to recontextualize it in a distinctly non-racist way. How because it don't affect you, but how would you think the people who takes that offensive that that it hurts them to hear that? Like when you're chipping out, how do you think that makes them feel?

3:27:13I don't think that there's I don't know. There's anything to be offended by. Yeah, because you're not offended by it because you're not the one that the graph. I mean, the demography was affected by it. That's why. And you think that chipping out was just fucking invented by Chud the Builder. That just shows how ignorant you are. Me and everybody else never heard about it. I'm sorry you spend so much time in COD lobbies. No, I've heard fucking you join a Call of Duty lobby and motherfuckers hear a black. Well, I'm a grown man who doesn't play Call of Duty. I play fucking Duck Hunt. If you've been on the internet since 2007, you've heard black people say racist shit about monkeys and black people.

3:27:42You hang out in racist spaces online. You show me in racial chat rooms. And I don't. I never heard someone say that. And I resent the fact that you're acting like that is such common. Everybody in the world found out about that phrase from Tread the Builder. It's like 1 % of people already knew about it. Were black people oppressed by comparing them to monkeys? Did you know that? But that's not what I did. But that's the category that you're using the phrase from. You're trying to put me out to dry for something I absolutely didn't do. That's the category of phrase you're pulling from. Arso Adam.

3:28:11The category of phrase. Yes, calling someone chimping out is the same thing. You have to realize that you've now descended into self. That's black. People are monkeys. Coded. What is the difference? You just said black people are. That's what you're saying. That's coding. Not something I ever said or even came close to alluding to. And describing as that behavior is what you're saying. I said it in a distinctly non-racist way. I know, but I could say the hard R in a certain contextual. That's not for the black people. If you're using that type of lingo, it implies that you're racist. If a black man is walking around saying blood, blood, blood, you're going to sue me your blood.

3:28:44If a black man is walking around saying cuss, cuss, cuss, you're going to sue me your crip. If a white boy is walking around saying nigger, nigger, chipping out, chipping out, you're going to sue me your rapist. I never did that. If you use the word chipping out, you're going to sue me your rapist. But you guys see how you have to move the goalposts so much in order to try to make this argument the same thing. It's just the world that we live in. To be fair, I'm not even... Listen, to be fair, I wouldn't even say it's not even just white people who do that. That's just being universal. Asian people do it.

3:29:12I'm just... Mexicans, all the time, everything. The white man ain't even the most racist person in the world no more. I ain't listening to that. All right, that's fine. The Mexicans are more racist than the white boy now. That's more racist than that, man. I already described. That's universal, bro. That's not just only white people that use that. That's definitely universal. so I'm lost to how you I just I think that black people should be more open to humor black people are some of the best comedians I know but they're really picking and that's what I'm saying we just watched the Kevin Hart roast that was chock full of some of the most racist jokes you've ever heard and I think for the most part people agreed that it was fucking hilarious and it was thoughtful but then from time to time people just decide like hey this random thing is over the line because we don't know who said it we're gonna go those were professional joke writers you're taking a fucking fringe ass kick streamer.

3:30:01This is an argument from authority. This is a fringe ass kick streamer. This is an argument from authority. You're saying because they're professional comedians, they have a monopoly on being funny. No, they have more thoughtfulness than Chud the Builder. Is that not true? I'm not co-signing anything that Chud the Builder ever said. But that's where Chippin' Out came from. He deserves to die. But that's where Chippin' Out came from. I'd just like to make that perfectly clear. That's where Chippin' Out came from to you. To me, yeah. Okay. And I think it's perfectly fine to parody a famous racist that we all agree is a piece of shit.

3:30:25I know, but you're not parodying it. Yes, I am. we're beating out you're just saying the racist phrase taking the language that he was using to oppress black people and i was using it to describe myself drinking tequila in vegas i thought it was funny obviously there's some people on this podcast who are addicted to being offended by everything and i think that's goofy as much oh we need to reappropriate it no i can see how other people would have another opinion and i might be more thoughtful going forward about how i say it but at the same time i think it's pretty pathetic that everybody's just reaching to find out you want to even dig that other perspective if you didn't feel like there's credence to the argument that I'm making.

3:30:57You know what I'm saying? No, I just do it. You just write me off an argument. Once you become a certain, reach a certain level when you are educated, you just move different. You don't have to use that type of lingo. I got a question for you guys. You can use whatever you want. I got a question. I got a question. We're trying to get through the donations, so let's make this a short question. No, go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead, Lush. I was going to try to help. No, do your thing. No, I was curious. So if a black person said those same jokes, would it bother you guys? No. Not as much. Oh, it wouldn't?

3:31:28Picking and choosing. Just like if Spody said the hard R right now, I wouldn't be like, whoa, Spody. But Adam's whole story he's telling is him and a black guy telling this joke. But Vel is a different type of black guy. Very accepting, very progressive. So he's ranking black guys now. So now you're a member of the gopher? You are a member of the gopher. Every black person has to. If he said the hard R, I don't think Vel would be tripping too crazy. There's nothing wrong with ranking black. That is not a good thing. He's a gopher. We can all agree that if there was a black guy spectrum The Doughboy would be on one very obvious There is levels though right That's like me That's like me walking in a certain neighborhood Doing this Hell Hitler We're on YouTube Why can't we reappropriate that That'd be like that Me saying that Is there a joke about you saying something about The H guy yeah of course I think that could be funny Obviously, people make jokes about World War II and Hitler all the time that are funny.

3:32:26I get, but if I was around a certain community or demographic, they would cancel you. What would they do and how would they feel? Freeze your bank account. Your joke better be fucking funny. I don't think they're funny. They take that serious. Okay, if you don't think Holocaust jokes are funny, No, they're funny, but we don't have anything else to talk about. The repercussions from telling it are going to be bad. Josh's fucking grandfather died in the concentration camp. That doesn't change the fact that a Holocaust joke would be funny. like when Kanye said Hitler was so dope when Kanye West said Hitler was so dope the whole point of jokes is to offend some people Kanye pissed me off when Kanye said when Kanye said Hitler was so dope he lost 2 billion dollars just because he said Hitler was dope and I didn't really like all that because I felt like Kanye sincerely was endorsing Hitler which I think is fucked up yeah I think he was just making a joke he should have been able to do it okay uh philip said everyone check out the gunplay interview i watched it twice it's crazy how much him and ross talk just alike free check say carol city shit thank you that was a great interview i agree um alcoholic gamer said adam have jackal i just pull up on the whack pod to explain that lifestyle wax hiding is it okay for him to be out in public especially from a former member damn oh i think jackal i just and whack would get along great but Jack like Jess is the dude that dates to trans women.

3:33:49Yeah, I'm going to wait. Oh, man, that dude that sent you from A-Train. There you are. He was talking about free from New York. Free his fellow Trey. That was the craziest post I've ever seen. That was amazing. Darnell said, Drake needs to do an everything 420 24-hour live stream slash horror comedy slash professional podcast slash glaze fest, and then he can beat Kendrick. Judo MMA master said, Can you say that Drake's the best A &R when nobody on OVO has motion? Roy Wood, Smiley, Division, Left the Label, Maji, Jordan's Quiet, Naomi Sharon hasn't done shit. Damn. I would agree that Drake's attempts to sign artists have obviously left a lot to be desired, aside from the obvious, like The Weeknd, he almost signed.

3:34:30He didn't sign, man. They started beefing. He's always had a hard time with that. And if anything, it doesn't seem like he really even has interest in signing people to OVO at this point. So when I'm talking A &R, I'm talking about people he's chosen to work with, not people he has signed. The party next door? What are you doing over that team? Yeah, yeah. I mean, objectively, P &D has been pretty successful, although obviously not to the level that probably a lot of people expected. Official Mr. Bagaman said, Doughboy was a DEI hire. You guys allowed him in to skip the line. He was Lush's favorite, and I'd ask for his hand in marriage, too.

3:35:00He is thick like pinky, and stop being so sensitive. Y 'all done worse. I did not know. I had no idea. I'd never heard of Doughboy. I'd never met Doughboy before he came in to do the live stream. So Lush, I guess, knew him. I heard of him. couple people roast me but it's not like i was like rooting for him personally like go back and watch my first conversation with doughboy on camera and i'm sure you could tell that that was my first time ever meeting him or knowing about him i'm talking about no boy slender i feel like it's it's almost not enough yeah i'll wife you um not guilty tv said i see jay hood bringing energy to my favorite pod shout out to munchie face and hood once y 'all marinate it will be organic your favorite no jumper woodland hills black girl i love how she always identifies herself as a Woodland Hills black girl in her message list.

3:35:46Shout out to the Woodland Hills black girl. I actually really want to meet Not Guilty TV now. I know who that is. Wait, really? She's on your roster? Trying to get him in trouble. Just kidding. Not Guilty TV. Mark Black said, Munchie, Michael Jordan didn't invest in prisons. You and J-Hood just had this talk about spreading stuff you don't know about. Get them meta to read to you the facts instead of spreading BS and Moose sucks. He must definitely donate to private prisons. All right, let's hit up Gemini. I know, I was just going to look at it. Did Michael Jordan invest in private prisons? That wasn't private though.

3:36:30No, Michael Jordan does not invest in private prisons. The rumor that he did stems from a persistent internet mix-up with a completely different person named Michael Jordan who serves as a government administrator in Portland, Oregon and was found to hold shares in the industry. Holy shit, you guys all just got smoked. That's tough. Isn't the same Bob Barker? Hey, hold on. Hold on, hold on. So, okay, somebody with the same exact name, right? With more notoriety. I mean, what'd he fucking do? All right, like, you acting like I said, fuck him or something. And then on top of that - No, but you said that Michael Jordan invested in private persons, which he apparently did not.

3:37:05Man, they say you fuck transgenders. Did anyone say that? I saw Obama in a lowrider. Munchie has anyone ever told you that you sometimes have a hard time saying sorry because you should just say yeah I was wrong but all you have to say is yeah okay I was wrong about that and also you two were the first ones who said it's not but I was saying he's going on meta classes all that bullshit because the nigga got thugged I was reading the donation the same exact name they both wealthy but one got more notoriety what the fuck is blood talking about I was just reading the donation but I mean yeah I mean okay so apologies to Michael Jordan and also Tommy Hilfiger did not go on Oprah and say derogatory things about black people as long as we're debunking things yeah spoaty fizz that was the one from high school everybody tommy is racist bro i knew black and hispanic people who threw their tommy hill figure in the garbage performatively in school over that rumor yeah i was old enough to um to remember that but um but he never said nothing he never even went on there it even came back up during like blm it came back out and they started flying him again he didn't make his clothes for us.

3:38:11That was a statement I remember. He didn't make his clothes for us. QN Hannah said I fuck with bruh with the Hawaiian shirt. He got good energy. Doughboy tried to hit Kyle with who you. That's how it all started. Keep this lineup. Okay, so they feeling the J-Hood experiment. Shout out J-Hood. Paper Tracer said a lot of LA dudes can't survive in other states. I seen it firsthand. Stop trying to make it like LA is like that. Y 'all murder rate ain't even been high since the 90s. Stop it. Like I said, I'm not doing no verses with murder rates, bro. Who cares about that shit? Everybody trying to stay free.

3:38:42I'm trying to compare who tougher. Like I said, different get-downs is different. California get-down differently from Atlanta. Atlanta get-down differently from Chicago. We all got different cultures. That's it. Do you accept, though, because it does seem kind of obvious, that the culture, Chicago, St. Louis, Philly, does seem to be more of like, oh, I got to op. I'm going to fucking murder him. whereas LA, it does feel like maybe not quite as intense. We did that already. LA been gangbanging forever. This shit is kind of new in a lot of places. It's still definitely intense. And to touch on that, what he's saying, it ain't nothing going on and all that.

3:39:21That's because he's talking about people that's from California and LA can't survive in the United States. Why? Our cultures, it's all throughout America. The gangbanging culture started out here. That's a fact. Unless you're talking about people that was fresh off the boat in New York. These other states is slow compared to California We talking about gang banging Gang banging started in LA That is a fact I don't know about nobody else But I was really in the streets And I really be outside Niggas getting killed by busters Real niggas out here getting smoked Getting sent up by weenies Niggas who scared to fight So just because y 'all murder a high Don't mean you tough Y 'all go to jail and be nice as fuck To be fair y 'all A lot of these states is open carry and all type of stuff.

3:40:05That's a good point. They have way more guns and it's way easier to carry guns. Be real. Like New York has a low murder rate, but it's because if you get caught with a gun, you're getting three to five years for your first fucking gun. So even the most gangster dudes, a lot of them don't carry guns. But I do have a, I'm sure this is going to be a really quick conversation. I asked Gemini, did LA invent gangbanging? No, she didn't. No, Los Angeles did not invent the concept of street gangs, but it did invent gangbanging as the world knows it today. While criminal street gangs have existed for centuries in cities like New York, London, and Chicago, Los Angeles created the highly specific culture, aesthetic, and structural style of modern gaming.

3:40:42And through pop culture, music, and the migration of people, L.A. exported this unique blueprint globally. I wouldn't have never said that when we started it. Because gangs, you know how long. Go watch the Warriors. How far gangs go back. Gangs of New York. That's what I said. If you heard me, that's what I said. If you're talking about people that's fresh off the boat in New York. Peaky blinders. in there. That's what I said. It was tripping. I just said that. This game-making culture in LA for sure started that. We said tripping off, throwing up signs and flagging and all that. That came from LA.

3:41:11We got the most structure when it comes to that the gang culture thing or whatever. But gang's been a thing since something BC. I don't know about the most structure. The most structure. Chicago got a deep structure. They killed everybody. Man, they got a, what you call it? Their whole thing is no OGs. nobody can tell me shit like until they go to jail you're talking about like a version of being a gd that's like pretty distinct from like chicago gds on average i think that's not that's not structured i started all started off over that as well i mean off that too yeah all right yo dragon eye loke shout out to you for the tenor qn hannah said i'm from the east coast the uh the colors come first before anything now when you get to jail it changes a little bit with the neighborhood and trays and hoovers yeah and on the east coast they gang banging it and banging 40s and 60s and Eagle Wolf family and Hoover because of California.

3:42:04I'm starting my own gang. Rolling 30s because of California. J.E. said, I heard Wack is trying to reach out to meet King Five Fingers because three isn't enough. Okay. That's fucked up. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to read that. Versatillion said, Adam, stop letting the two lamest hosts, Lush and Ricky, tell Doughboy that he needs to be funny or leave no jumper when neither one of them are ever funny. You and Munchie are the only funny hosts and that's okay. This isn't Def G. Do you feel like you and Ricky might have been overdoing it? Like maybe you guys all of a sudden feel like a newfound sense of superiority over Doughboy?

3:42:41Does that even sound like... Yes. So it has nothing to do with the fact that this man is literally calling me begging for advice? Yeah, Lush has a better angle. You always shut out somebody, Lush. Nobody be outing you like that when you have any problem. Stop doing that, bro. Man, get the fuck out of here. You don't even know what you're talking about, bro. That's crazy. You do got to admit that there is something uniquely obnoxious about Doughboy. It's not like everybody just has this delusion that he's fucking annoying. That's not even a real opinion. Lush is out at Doughboy because Adam outed Lush by being a victim of the ass whoopage his girl was giving him, right?

3:43:19Well, I think he actually was secretly thankful that I exposed that. Nah. Lush was a top blazer. He's been on Doughboy before the last incident was there. It was a play. Me and Lush worked together on that. Like, that's what he's doing. I don't know about that, but he's categorized at the top blazer. He's the top blazer. If we're being fair. Lush does it too, but Doughboy's way less. But also, Lush actually cares about Doughboy too. You know what I'm saying? He actually does. I can't tell. None of this is applicable besides, like, your feeble attempts to try and control right now. Don't say words.

3:43:53Don't say words. I don't know. Feeble? Like, weak. I've never heard the word feeble before. Yeah, I've never heard the word feeble before. Harry Potter. Just like weak. I'm not even a extra critic. I'm faking. Yeah. No, no. Despite the fact that you're trying to troll, I see right through it. And the reality is. Blue Powerade. You're drinking a blue Powerade to try to suck you up. Look at that. He probably drove to Vernon and I have to buy that. No, no. The fact of the matter is I demonstrated a great deal of value and people held me in a very high regard. before I even started to pull any of the little cards that other people did that wound up turning the fans against me.

3:44:34Regardless, I never asked to be a mentor to anybody. People ask me for help, and I do it. I know what that means. You're welcome. I know what that means. You're welcome. Don't pontificate. That's multi-syllabic right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, as a newer host, I try not to be given too much advice. I feel like Ricky could maybe kick back on the Doughboy advice because we all got things to work on. I'm not getting enough. Everything I've said to this fans is trying to be true. Define their character in opposition to Doughboy. Like, hey, I might be a Glazer, but I'm not a Glazer like him. I might be a non-affiliate, but I ain't like this big bad bitch.

3:45:08Yeah, that's weak. That's trash. That's weak. That's what everybody's doing. I'm rocking with Doughboy. Yeah, that's definitely what's going on. Yeah, that's definitely what's going on. 1 ,000%. Hey, I'm a pussy, but maybe I should swing on Doughboy. Like, yeah, I couldn't be like Jason Love, but here we go. Just knock Doughboy off. That's messed up, Lush. No, you know what's messed up is I could have contextualized the whole entire back and forth between you and Doughboy differently. But I followed my heart and spoke the truth. And here you are now when there's an opportunistic moment. See how you stay trying to bust.

3:45:37I see where you're going. Go ahead and do it. Yeah, bust them out. Go ahead and do it. If you're going to do that, I'm telling you right now, Lush. Don't do it, Lush. I'm telling you right now. I'm telling you right now. I think I've said more than enough, Spuddy. No, no, no. I think I said more than enough. You's a dirty motherfucker. Anytime you get back, you're going to try to butt you. You're a jerk. I'm not quite sure. I get what he said. I'm not quite sure he's following what's going on. I know exactly what you're talking about. I know exactly what you're talking about. I'm not sure much he's playing it to him.

3:46:05Hey, bro, he's saying he first hopped on his top paws because of you. He felt he was targeting you because he seen the chat was against you. No, I know what he's talking about, but he also. Yeah. You also saying something else. No, no, no, no, no. You also saying something else. No, he ain't saying that. No, the other thing is saying this, he could have framed you versus Doughboy as way differently and put you in a bad light, but he made you look good in that situation. I could have made that whole shit look differently. I'm the fucking oracle. What the fuck is you talking about, bro? I see what you're doing.

3:46:32I'm the fucking oracle. No, you're definitely not. You're trying to pile on that Doughboy train. That's fucked up. You're hitting him while he's down, Lush. That's what I'm not doing. I've been uplifting this man while all of y 'all running train on this guy. I ain't never. First of all, man. First of all. Sexually. Yes, it is crazy. Yes, it is. I ain't do none of that. You hit me while you're down. That's kind of messed up. I'm trying to. You airing out all this dirty laundry. You airing out all this dirty laundry. You airing out all this dirty laundry. You're making it worse. You're trying to Spodey's shoulder rub right now.

3:46:58You're making it worse, though. You airing out all this dirty laundry. You're making it worse because you're forcing me to expose you. Forcing his hand. All right, all right, Waxo, honey. You're trying to expose me, expose me for what? The exposer. I just know that I'm 3-0 tonight. You definitely are. We're going to let you believe that, Les. Get that off. Go crazy. It's like two in one. You got no bodies. All right. Callie Rosum said, free ant head fade. G5602 said, anybody going to touch on whack, beefing with ant at the same time all this went down? Sending Flacco videos to put out of a completely different crime.

3:47:33Crazy. Now talking shit on ant being in jail. SMH. Yeah, that video didn't have nothing to do with that. Police work. And then G also said, Flacco's second video was pointing out a car that ant drove to no jumper, putting him at the scene of another unaliving of the taco stand given to him from whack so maybe whack was feeding flaco all that information which is that's kind of amazing no he said he did like man you know how common that car is no but he no he he said he did he he's on record saying that he gave the video and then describing all type of stuff he definitely on that hey i have a question do you guys know what cars each other drive because I have absolutely no idea.

3:48:12I don't pay attention to cars. I've never paid attention to what cars y 'all drive. If I haven't rode with y 'all, then I don't. Yeah, yeah, if I've been in your way. Once I ride with you, then I kind of remember. But even then, I can name it out and make it model and shit. I know. Man, you got to know what kind of car the homies pull up. I seen Munchy driving a car the other day. Dragon at Crip said, free ants, not plant. Free the alter eagle, not the seagull. Adam, we need a 24-hour stream when Ant comes home. He's the only one who hasn't pulled up. free gerbatron no jumper losing some real ones i don't think that we should get into the habit of celebrating things with 24 hour streams i don't really understand the desire to do that it's just burning it's just too much it's like let's do a fucking four hour pub maybe let's go crazy do five hours like why do we 20 like nobody's gonna watch 24 hours it's just 48 next time 72 instead brody deech said tmz once reported that tim duncan murked himself after losing the finals never listen to them motherfuckers again after well you're doing yourself a great disservice because we said from the very beginning that yes they had some notable L's over the years so that in no way rejects anything that we were saying and Timmy ain't lost in the finals since like oh four you feel me so okay K Blowing said Lush is better than Adam any day so he's on drugs Ben Herover said am I the only one that realized that ever since Poetic Fatso and Weenie100 came on No Jumper people started going to jail or okay open and that's like a three-year time interval by the way um ivan said yo adam on the real this is the same type of reason that four extra backed up off you if you ever fall off you better pray your homies don't do you like you do the homies and run content on you i would love to know when i ran content on an hefe because obviously like there are a bunch of people who are guilty of that i don't fall into that box i didn't rush to do any clickbait I didn't post about it on social media at all.

3:50:06The only comment I even gave about Ann Hefe was responding to TMZ, who hit me up directly about it. All I've done is be open-minded about the fact that he got arrested. And you said something positive. Yeah, all I said was I was shocked. Actually, after the fact, I thought it would have been pretty funny if I trolled and said, like, yeah, I always had a suspicion that he might do something like this. That would be crazy. If I said that, it would have been... Probably a lot of people wouldn't have got the troll. Okay, alright, alright. All right. QBan said, Adam, shut the fuck up and put up the damn poll.

3:50:35You come to the chat all the time. Don't diss us. We pay your bills. No, I love the chat. I just wasn't going to give Lush the feeling as if he won the argument when he obviously lost the argument because the fan base wants to troll. But again, like I fully like it's on Lush. Like we all we do is ask him to tell us something that we could put into the AI that would prove him right. Lush killed us. He failed us. fully guy has become a member top pooter top ooter said Les was just saying it's up it's fucked up how Flacco and trap no ants in IRL and did less due diligence than TMZ dope cast great job Munchie and J Hood again Lush is acting as if this is a good point which is just not the biggest breaking news media company in the world obviously is going to be held to a higher standard than poetic Flacco tone bro why do i say the most self-evident thing ever and then you say all right dude as if you could possibly argue it when you've been given a platform to argue it over and over and over and you have failed i'm gonna substantially argue you didn't you didn't lush and you could go home and make a fucking youtube video and we would love to see that okay podcast over here maybe we'll give you a day to like try to cook up a coherent argument but you have not provided one on this podcast all right we'll see okay but even when you say that it's like you obviously have no plans on trying to make a go-herent argument so don't act as if you've got something in the tuck tone bro said lush cooked adam and smithers adam was overlooking past lush's point smithers relax over there again we gave lush infinite opportunities to make his point and he didn't even try so not bad y 'all yeah lush didn't even try um okay now we gotta scroll back up golly The people agreeing with you, Les?

3:52:26No, they're not. By such an overwhelming number, it's like... We know they're always right. Yeah, but you still can't even make the argument. We've given you the platform over and over and over. Mate, I hear the argument. I just don't agree with it. You can do it. You can do it right now, but you're just going to keep repeating the same bullshit you've been saying. I understand what he said the fourth time he tried to explain it, but what I don't understand is why you know Flacco have no moral compass. So that's where I'm going to leave. That's all I'm saying. And TMZ is the most renowned breaking news platform in the world.

3:52:56Can we get this stream to over? Cortega said, Lush, you're a better podcaster than this. You were wrong. You need to admit it. Drop the sassy attitude. You got proven wrong. Just admit it. Stop being quiet and have an attitude and pod fool SMH. That is, he just cooked the fuck out of you. Yeah, that was accurate. It was. Western Wiggles said, love y 'all boys. Keep it up. Five, five, crip. um tonyville said bass is ass hell yeah pratt gang um okay and then paper chaser said wax nephew in the building now spody and mungie on their best behavior lol uh on my worst behavior um reesey said moose just say it already you already got that dumbass jack harlow fit on i think he's talking about the n-word i'm pretty sure uh coyote said adam i think you and lunch should do a glizzy review show and shout out to moose man yo shout out let me get in on episode i feel like hot dogs are like pretty similar like they don't have as much variety as like burgers and pizzas hot dogs that they ate and shit i've seen damn i didn't know that that's dope uh sparta six at the chicago shit is all hype to me i always thought dc was worse chicago is four times larger with only double the murder rate and la is more organized with this shit so you're not gonna hear a lot of self-snitching true true adam 78b said please don't add jay hood to the tuesday show the chemistry is perfect as is free the pelican okay i like it me too jn said adam is a racist liar i agree uh meli way said adam is so fucking oblivious sometimes i'd be hoping that this n-word trolling and just secretly racist i know you're smarter than this either you didn't or you're reclaiming the racist term.

3:54:41So again, we have another anti-free speech warrior here who wants to police jokes. Not Guilty TV said Munchy Spody and J. Hood should be checking Adam, not Moose. Thank you, Moose. I got you. He was doing a good job. Woodland Hills, black woman. Shout out to all of the anti-free speech people on here. Phillip said Adam rocking with Chud. No, but going after the Mexican podcaster for booty scratcher thing is weird. And Adam is lying. The racist dude that had the debate with Brandon said chimping out in y 'all interview. Oh, wow. I don't remember everything that everybody said. I knew that debated Brandon.

3:55:12It was like last year. Did he say that like about Brandon? He said like you are chimping out? No, I think he was describing black people like in the hood or some shit like that. So you remember Brandon? Brandon is like a conservative black dude from Long Beach. And yeah, he's like, yeah, yeah. Exactly. He did a debate with like an actual racist dude, like who proudly says I am a racist. And I think I remember that. Honestly, like, I don't remember him saying it. I feel like Brandon kind of like took that W in that debate because they didn't really find a lot that they disagreed on because Brandon's kind of like racist himself.

3:55:53so if anything it was like not much of a debate since they didn't so they so they said that word was used in a debate i guess that's what they're saying i hypocrites is an idiot too so um el grande lobo said adam this is a weird hill to die on bro okay i'm not dying i'm just saying something he's willing to die i was not willing to die for that opinion if something is offensive to someone especially especially people close to you then back off of it i actually think that something being offensive is part is not like a reason to not say it i think that offensive humor is very very good and important and most of the best comedy is offensive to some people you ain't a comedian though yeah i am i'm a person who makes content where i crack jokes just because i don't write them in advance doesn't mean i'm not a comedian you gotta go on stage i guarantee if i look up the death you know that's a stand-up comic hey don't you guys think a poll would be fire where it's like me moose and adam lose the most right today and see what everybody you going You crawling back to the pole is so unbelievably pathetic.

3:56:50I can see that. You are worse than dog boy right now. You're the best father. I'm fucking thirsty right now. That's right. Yeah, you guys are all young. Fucking know what time it is. Damn, you need to go get some pussy to reaffirm your existence. JC said, Adam, you got a little racism in you. Probably even more ignorance. You as a white man shouldn't even be speaking on this. Okay, that's great to know that as a white man, I can't even talk about race. black man there are certain things you should not speak of in front of white people so he's basically a racist he's probably what's his name again jc you're the worst racist of all you're worse than chud taco mandon said there is no reappropriating the nazi salute as it originates in the u.s as the bellamy salute also please understood the word anecdotal before you use examples of one black guy said it's okay the nazi salute came from the u all right did that Did Bill Bellamy do it at some point?

3:57:45Bill Bellamy. Bill Bellamy. I got three feelings. Yo, like why? He did it on MTV. Yo, TV raps. He did it on Arsenio. If there's something called the Bill Bellamy salute, then I would love to learn more about it, but I'm not going to do that right now. The Bellamy salute. Heroin Manson said, shout out to the whole cast. What's up with the way Adam was talking to the whole cast yesterday? I mean, one of the people on the cast was Doughboys, so that's probably a pretty big explanation. Another one was choking out Doughboys. Yeah. Dragon Eye BD said, Adam has no soul, so he has no apathy. Funny how Lush was quiet about the chud convo.

3:58:20He didn't want to risk getting cooked any further on this podcast. I'm sorry. He meant to say the word empathy. He used the word incorrectly. Apathy means something completely different, little guy. What he's accusing Adam of being would be apathetic. You're right. He meant empathy. Yes, he meant empathy. Damn. For a person who wanted. Little fucking paramecium. For a person who want the N word. I don't want nothing, bro. They gave it to me. They gave it to me. You wouldn't say nothing. You let that one fool say it. You let that one white fool from the South. Because he's not black. That's what he told me he's black.

3:58:56Oh, he told you. He told you nothing, bro. They got CREO everywhere. He told me he was black. Daddy was 100 % black. You know, they got that CREO shit going on. I believe he told you that, but I'm not buying it. Hey, my dad played jazz with Miles Davis. He did. What the fuck are you talking about? My dad played jazz with Miles Davis. Hey, and for anybody who wants to say that I'm not a comedian and that everybody at this table's not a comedian, you tell me if this sounds right. A comedian is an entertainer whose primary job is to make the audience laugh. They achieve this through a variety of mediums such as telling jokes, sharing humorous anecdotes, performing comedic skits, or acting in comedic films and plays.

3:59:40To me, I can't imagine anything that describes what we do on here any better than that. So, yes, I am a comedian, and I'm reminding everybody of that. I'm done debating this fool. I didn't think you had that in your repertoire, like self-proclaiming that. That's all I'm about, just comedy. You want to put a hyphen on this stuff. Family Eats First said Adam Fuentes. Hell yeah. Lil Mexican 260 said Uno Baby's here for Lush and Moose, crooks from the fives. Oh, my God. um drama shogun said adam's drake glazing is getting uncomfortable that's fuck jesus christ hey i'm sorry if i'm glazing the greatest rapper of all time better than jay-z you don't even believe that yourself don't do bo don't he has made the greatest rap music the most powerful the most far-reaching music better than jay-z to you uh i do i feel like jay-z is my early life goat and Drake is my ladder life goat.

4:00:36And I would say that at a certain point, you do have to look at their accolades and say, okay, Drake has kind of outdone this. Let's go. Drake has smoked Jay-Z, bro. Listen, the most far-reaching is crazy when I don't think we'll... He's made bigger records, bigger hits, more number ones. Just hear me out. I don't think we will be listening to Drake 30 years from now. We're still listening. That's insane. We're still listening to Tupac Shakur to this day. If you don't think that we're going to be listening to Drake in 30 years, then you don't deserve to be on a podcast. You ought to be wearing your fucking robe, standing on Ventura, yelling at people, because that's the most burnt-out shit I've ever heard.

4:01:19I was just talking to my people, my brothers. You who? Yo, that was insane. You remember my video? I don't think they're going to listen to the Take Care album 30 years from now. That's crazy. I'm just saying, that's a J-Cat take. That's a standing outside of 7-Eleven yelling at people take. We're not going to be listening to Drake 30 years from now. That's a J-Cast. You don't listen to the Take Care album. You a J-Cast. The Take Care album. Absolutely. We're still listening to fucking Journey. We're still listening to Journey. They're a thousand times less culturally relevant than fucking Drake.

4:01:48If it's not. Go home. Get out of here. If it's not Take Care, I don't know what you're talking about. Paper Chaser said. Okay. You just disappointed yourself. Paper Chaser said, Adam, don't let Wags start talking tough about Ant on the new Adam and Wags show because we all know how Wags do soon as his op go to jail. now all of a sudden they could have got the fade when and been asking for the fade yo if you want to say that shit upgrade to the whack pack and watch that episode tomorrow live at noon so you don't gotta wait till sunday that's all i'm saying um incentivize it for the members yeah we we good all right uh and then sergio said w moose we have no idea at what time that was said reality check said keep j hood on the tuesday show and moose is low-key funny as fuck on insane free and brick and sus keep loose now he wrote loose loose hey man we want loose back give me loose you respect loose i'll slap loose okay i'm not moose cannon no more uh fbs wolf said moose sucks bro get harry potter out of here brandon whooped him and he's against all speech since that w free speech w edgy jokes l moose yeah go hang out with brandon juan velasquez said lush did you get your 7k what's that about did i a little settlement oh y 'all get some money 7k you don't know he told my mom when he was live like you know what i'm saying we we're trying to get the 7k oh okay we said that we boarded it oh i'm here yeah because we get a hundred thousand when you feel me every motherfucking week in this bitch so we're like we have our little monday nose brother usually we need a pretty good title day at 7k oh wait what you're talking about the news on like just live viewers today oh today i think you got to when i looked it was at four which was pretty impressive oh he says we was at six phone six point four player what the fuck no dick that's crazy today this morning right now oh on today yeah i think yeah all right yeah all right jc said adam since you like looking up definitions just know black people cannot be racist in them oh my god we got ibram x kendi in the chat we can be prejudiced not racist stop thinking you know everything all the time okay we've got a woke jester in the chat that's the same guy jc is last time to you wag woke jester dot com reality check said since we're talking to hip-hop everyone on the panel tell us your top five rappers absolutely you're not getting that for five bucks another hour um and then dragon i bd said let's don't talk shit you're elvis schmidt to adam's johnny true love from alpha dog I don't watch anime Champ Renegade said keep J-Hood on the Tuesday show and then finally Smack Pack said Spody ask Adam about saying Jim been out on Saturday of the fight okay we already did it I gotta get home to my fucking family we just gave y 'all four hours of heat shout out to Lush shout out J-Hood shout out to Carson shout out to Spodyface shout out to all my Hebrew Israelites shout out to Burning Avenue shout out to motherfucking 22ster the greatest podcaster of all time.

4:04:47Shout out to Moose, a.k.a. Mexican Norte Harry Potter. I'm being an owl. And shout out to, and the fact that you think that it's okay to say that is extremely offensive. I'm reappropriating it. At least I'm changing it. And shout out to Munchie B. And then Alan Torres with a last minute donation said, J-H-18-D Westside Herb. Westside Herb, Westside Herb. That's your hood? Michael from Carver. Okay. And look, that's my boy from 18th Street. Oh, what's the deal? Oh, okay. Look, before we get out here, make sure y 'all go donate to the young Aunt Hefe, man, the GoFundMe, man. I put it up. Make sure y 'all go.

4:05:23Everything count. We trying to get my bro out, man. Free Aunt Hefe. And become a member and send them super chats because we're going to put a file in a cake and bring it into Aunt Hefe and get us out of there. Or at least you can stab somebody with that shit. The link in my bio. Shout out to everybody. Smash the like button. Free Aunt Hefe. Free Brick Baby. Free Almighty Suspect. Keep Chud. Keep Chud. And keep Chud for now. Free Chud. Nah, stab him up in here. Free Chud. Charleston White was going hard with the Free Chud shit. We don't wish jail on our worst interview. I just did a Charleston White interview, and he's saying Free Chud the whole time.

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