In short
Episode topic: Aspen Kartier discusses her Chicago upbringing (frequent evictions and “house hopping”), mental-health struggles, why she cut off an ex, and how she got into rap. She also talks about beef/diss-track culture, being compared to other Chicago drill artists, a rumored “Fuck Aspen” diss situation, and a personal story about getting laced and quitting weed. She addresses label interest (Grade A) and her rapid rise via viral clips and free studio sessions.
Guest backgrounds
No separate guests are clearly identified; the episode is primarily Aspen Kartier with an interviewer/host.
Key claims
Aspen says she doesn’t fight and avoids relationship drama that affects her mental health. She claims she started rapping after seeing money/label activity in an ex’s phone, then got attention from a viral mic clip and free sessions. She says she signed after an early $15k-style offer and later joined Grade A/management (Kaden Hudson). She claims she was laced long ago (possibly K2) and stopped smoking at 17.
Notable examples
Evictions after losing a Section 8 voucher; working McDonald’s/Wendy’s/Mall shifts; diss song “Dis” (unreleased); viral “on the mic” clip on another platform; “Free Clout” vs “Fuck Aspen” timing; laced party story; comparisons to G Herbo/Star Benz/Jeff.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VONavigating Breakups and Relationships
0:31 to 0:56
Aspen shares her experiences with breakups and mental health.
“But choosing a snack you and your kids can both get behind doesn't have to be.”
Navigating Breakups and Relationships
2:39 to 6:08
Aspen shares her experiences with breakups and mental health.
“It's crazy looking at you when I watch you on YouTube.”
Growing Up in Chicago
6:08 to 8:52
Aspen discusses her upbringing in Chicago and the challenges faced.
“really who's the breakup with multiple breakups I don't talk to no man right now.”
Personal Struggles and Resilience
8:52 to 14:01
Aspen reveals personal struggles and how she built resilience through adversity.
“I could be talking about like Dick Tracy.”
Reflections on Family Dynamics
14:01 to 15:00
Exploring the complexities of familial relationships and empathy.
“So my sister will always tell me like, don't be close to mom.”
Navigating Early Challenges
15:01 to 16:14
Discussing the realities of homelessness and personal growth.
“That's pretty impressive that you're so young and you're able to look at your mom and like get that about her.”
Entering the Music Scene
16:15 to 18:10
How a relationship sparked a passion for rap and music production.
“I got to put these rap checks behind this shit.”
The Decision to Start Rapping
18:11 to 20:24
The moment she decided to pursue a music career seriously.
“But yeah, and I was like oh yeah, this rap shit pay.”
Gaining Momentum in Music
20:25 to 22:48
Her journey from recording one song to gaining recognition and support.
“Every different combination of ways I can shape my lips, it doesn't make a whistle noise.”
The Drama of Diss Tracks
22:49 to 24:02
Discussing beef and diss tracks in the music industry and personal life.
“You're looking at me like I didn't just repeat what you said.”
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The Drama of Diss Tracks
24:32 to 24:58
Discussing beef and diss tracks in the music industry and personal life.
“But choosing a snack you and your kids can both get behind doesn't have to be.”
Living in the Low End
24:58 to 28:00
Insights into her experiences growing up and navigating neighborhoods.
“So how much time you spend on the low end?”
Sauce Preferences and Neighborhoods
28:00 to 28:50
Discussion on favorite sauces and neighborhood dynamics.
“Barbecue, ranch, buffalo, sweet and sour All the sauces You just put them in front of you Do you ever put two on one piece at the same time?”
Falling Out with Journey
28:50 to 29:40
Exploring the reasons behind falling out with a friend and past relationships.
“I shouldn't even have done this interview.”
Trust Issues in Relationships
29:40 to 30:50
Discussion on trust and relationships within the Chicago scene.
“Or were you guys backdoor chicks together?”
Aspen's Rapid Rise in Music
30:50 to 32:00
Aspen shares insights on her quick rise in the music industry.
“I had an unreleased song drop, and then she had said some little shit on TikTok about her, her opinion, because that's what the video she do.”
Label Outreach and Skepticism
32:00 to 33:10
Insights on initial skepticism towards label outreach and offers.
“Like, I'm very placed myself in every situation I can't be right now.”
Navigating Opportunities with Management
33:10 to 34:10
Discussion on how Aspen navigated her opportunities with her manager.
“I had dropped a fucking on the mic and it was reaching out.”
Friendship Dynamics and Collaborations
34:10 to 35:10
Exploring Aspen's friendships and potential collaborations in the industry.
“Offer for like 15 bands or some shit Like that How the fuck do you know this I do my homework.”
Experiences with Drugs and Weed
35:10 to 36:30
Aspen shares her experiences with weed and getting laced.
“And then you got her, you put her on the rapping and shit, right?”
Impact of Getting Laced on Aspen's Lifestyle
36:30 to 38:10
Discussion on how getting laced affected Aspen's view on drugs.
“Well, you asked you when, told people you got laced.”
Comparison to Other Chicago Artists
38:10 to 39:20
Aspen discusses comparisons to other Chicago artists and her unique style.
“but it wasn't laced like it was just in regular weed do you do other drugs?”
Female Collaborations in Chicago's Rap Scene
39:20 to 41:00
Discussion on the female rap scene in Chicago and potential collaborations.
“You do a song because you and this motherfucker will make a hit.”
Aspen's Statements on Chicago's Rap Scene
41:00 to 42:00
Aspen addresses her controversial statements about female drill rappers in Chicago.
“There's not a lot of female juror rappers like me.”
Claiming the Throne in Chicago Rap
42:00 to 46:40
Discussion on competition among female Chicago artists and claiming dominance in the rap scene.
“I mean, I'm just saying, I mean, I feel like I've seen some guns in her videos over the years, right?”
Navigating Chicago's Challenges
46:40 to 49:10
Personal experiences of violence in Chicago and the advice to leave if in dangerous situations.
“When you put people in an interview, dude, never mind.”
Education and Future Aspirations
49:10 to 50:20
Discussion on dropping out of school, future educational goals, and aspirations of being a lawyer.
“Like I said, my parents, my mom had got evicted.”
Relationships and Personal Life
50:20 to 52:00
Insights into personal relationships, focus on career, and navigating dating at a young age.
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Self-Awareness and Life Lessons
52:00 to 56:00
A reflective conversation on youth, personal growth, and the importance of perspective in life.
“I don't listen to her music you feel like you might have I mean I ain't heard her in a minute but I think she probably still when you rap you rap forever for the most part right yeah not everybody Not everybody.”
Focusing on Career Over Relationships
56:00 to 56:45
Aspen discusses prioritizing her career and the importance of not getting distracted by relationships.
“There's probably like 15 dudes like, hell no, she's lying.”
Support for Fellow Artists
56:45 to 58:05
Aspen expresses her desire to see other female artists from Chicago succeed and discusses competition in the music scene.
“Hey, so what's your relationship with Mellow Bucks, though?”
Navigating Collaborations in Music
58:05 to 59:16
Aspen talks about her approach to music collaborations and the challenges of reaching out to others.
“Or are you like, nah, I ain't for nothing?”
Perceptions of Authenticity
59:16 to 1:00:01
Aspen addresses criticisms regarding her authenticity and discusses the pressures of the music scene.
“If you think I'm faking that shit, If I'm not like that, if I'm just...”
Family's Influence on Decisions
1:00:01 to 1:01:16
Aspen shares how her brother influences her decisions and keeps her grounded amidst her rising fame.
“But who's the person that you listen to that can get you to chill?”
Social Media Challenges
1:01:16 to 1:02:36
Discussing her experiences with social media bans and the reasons behind them, Aspen highlights the challenges of online expression.
“You fuck with all this crashing out she's been doing?”
The Current Chicago Rap Scene
1:02:36 to 1:05:39
Aspen and the hosts analyze the current rap scene in Chicago and discuss influential artists.
“You post butthole, you won't even get banned on Twitter.”
Legal Issues and Interactions in LA
1:05:39 to 1:07:48
Aspen recounts her experiences with law enforcement and the complexities of being in a risky environment.
“I listen to Dirk though, like on some bad shit.”
Shoutouts and Final Thoughts
1:07:48 to 1:09:54
In the closing segment, Aspen shares shoutouts and reflects on her experiences during the interview.
“He sound like he probably gumbo some shit.”
Shout Outs and Departures
1:10:02 to 1:10:12
Listeners will hear shout outs and discuss airport plans.
“Yeah Steve we have to go Where you going?”
Discussion on Lady Bin Laden and OG References
1:10:12 to 1:10:40
The hosts engage in playful banter about Lady Bin Laden and her connection to Osama.
“Shout out Osama Bin Laden What the fuck did you just try to downplay Lady Bin Laden with Osama?”
Transcript
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1:15I was like, yeah, he bought me a bag. Oh, Bibi's a trick. What the fuck? No, he's not a trick. Trying to brighten your day up? Yeah. Wow. That's not the baby I thought I was dealing with here. Oh, he's very sweet. That's over sweet. Buying somebody a bag? Yeah. I mean, he did give me the jacket soon as Burberry. So, yeah, he's sweet. Damn. All right, baby. We're going to have to have a talk. Yeah, because my girl said the my girl like warm as she came into the room. She's like, yo, you should probably go out there and just get right into the interview because she seems like she's easily offended because she said they asked you to take the photo and you're like, OK.
1:51What? No. First when we did the fucking interview shit, like the whole music shit, I'm like, what the fuck? But my lady said it up, so I'm going to do it. Okay. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do everything regardless. Right. If I, if we record. Yeah, we live. We in effect. It was a podcast. We was recording when I said the other shit? No. Oh, not, not if you say anything crazy out there. What the fuck? Oh, oh, oh. Punked. You got punked. You good, you good, you good. You tricked me. I didn't trick you to say nothing. I should have never talked to you. I just sat down and started talking. Y 'all they say one, two, three, go?
2:28We're doing it right now. One, two, three, go. Okay. We're going to keep the other stuff too. This is an extra go. Because then they're going to feel like they saw the real you. That's valuable. Authenticity goes a long way in this game. Which camera? That one? It don't even matter. You can just look at us, yeah. It's crazy looking at you when I watch you on YouTube. Yeah? Yeah, you're a little pussy. What? As soon as I walk in, she hits me with the Where you from? Cause I'm thinking he one of them naggers You be on this bitch chatting Yeah, I am one of them Oh, that's how I clap him? Up this bitch to your face don't do shit backwards?
3:07Wait, clapping? You're clapping? You clap? Don't clap me Why did you call me pussy? I'm clapping Just dropped your bag Can I put something aside? Yeah, wherever you want to do it. You can even put it, like, right here. Okay. So you can still kind of scope it, but, like. All right. Okay, one, two, three, go. What fade did I turn down that you're pissed off about? Huh? What fade did you turn down that I was pissed off about? And you said I'm a pussy. No, no, no, no, no. You didn't turn down no fade. I just feel like. No, but I did. At the same time, why are you fighting? Exactly. Niggas are trying to fight him, though.
3:42But at the same time, why am I fighting you? I'm rich as fuck, right? All right, so what made you say he was a pussy then? Why you started off like that? Because he's pussy. Do you say something? Oh, I can't even remember. I think it was Ruger interview. That's the one. That's what I was assuming you were going off. Oh, no, no, no. The fighting shit was OD. Okay. But what the fuck? It was OD that he wanted to fight or it was OD that I did not want to fight? No, I don't think you should have fought. I feel like your job is to interrogate motherfucking say shit you don't want to hear. That's the part of an interview.
4:14It just matters. You let your feelings get involved. You know? Okay, thank you. Then you in L.A. trying to fight. You get locked up in L.A. I got locked up in L.A. I almost cried to call my mama. You don't want to get locked up in L.A. Why am I sitting here fighting you? I wouldn't fight nobody. I wouldn't fight nobody. If I was in his position in life, with just being like who I am and how much money I got, I know he got some money. You down for a squabble? To fight you? No, not me. Just like a girl from the neighborhood that you got beef with or something? I don't fight. You wouldn't get into that?
4:42I don't fight. No? No. You know why they call me Queen Drake? That's what I was thinking, yeah. You're going to have Bibi switch him down? Why would I have Bibi do that? We bought you a bag. No, he's amazing. He's a sweetheart. Okay. So she said she's putting belt to shit herself. Damn. Belt? What does belt mean? I wear belts. What does belt mean? I just been hearing that shit. Yeah, you got to stop saying that shit. It sounds cool. You got to stop hearing everything you hear. What, belt's over? Belt? We missed the wave. It's just lame as fuck to say belt. I wanted to marry belt today. Yeah? Yeah.
5:11How much was that? Oof. Really? not enough to tie a waist my waist not enough to tie around my waist cause I know you fuckers are gonna clip that and say I don't know how to talk I was not sure what you said either and then you repeated it and I was like okay got it anyway we didn't mention this but the Aspen Cartier is in the building. Why do y 'all have a hole in the wall? Is that for the light? That's the ceiling not the wall I don't know there's like a bunch of equipment and it's like holding the light up there and it's like some sound proofing shit it's a whole thing you be out of Mary a lot married a lot a lot no you just told me that you was there recently and you said you was just there again no no no I wasn't even there I seen him coming out of the Ameriester I was in the car we was parked we was trying to go to the bank I wasn't ever at the Ameriester in Chicago I don't I wouldn't really buy my money on designer the reason I did it today is because I've done a lot of accomplishments so make myself feel good going through a breakup so really who's the breakup with multiple breakups I don't talk to no man right now.
6:15None. No roster. No roster. No going to sleep on the phone. No, I can call, kick it with you. Nobody. Why'd you have to leave him alone? I just felt like my mental health was just getting deterred, drained. I don't want to argue. Then I'm social media and everybody got this image of me being like, oh, she's with this nigga. She's with him. It was like, bro, that's just content or some fun shit where it'd be taken out of character and I don't be feeling like dealing with that in my real life. So, yeah, I have a career. Goodbye. They just got cut off. Are their hearts broken? Damn. Especially you're starting to blow up.
6:50And then it's like, oh, bye. And they're like, fuck, I was trying to hitch myself to this wagon. I was trying to ride this ship to the top. That's like the worst thing. You put in years of sweat equity, building up a girl. She gets one hot song. Goodbye.
7:08I don't think it was like that. that's the narrative I'm going with though what's the narrative there honestly I'm going to tell y 'all so me and my friends we all at a hotel right now and they was just on the phone with their peoples and like on the phone with their family they was on the phone with like their mom, dads and shit and they was just like friends, cousins like blur related people and they were just talking like telling them how LA is and like how they like it and what's fun about LA and I just thought like damn when I was in LA I didn't talk to nobody damn I've been here I've been in Miami.
7:39I've been going home for a month and nobody called to check up on me. You know what I mean? Like, I can't call back and talk to a nigga. And then they just want to argue or deteriorate me or just say, I don't know if that's the word, or say some bad shit to me or say some mean shit to me. I don't know. I don't know. I just feel like I was luring myself trying to fulfill a family need. Like, oh, I want a boyfriend so he can take the place of my mom or take the place of my dad or take the place of my sister. and just like i mean like a lot of these dudes are being put through stress tests that the average boyfriend just does not get put through you know you're in the studio with all these rappers they're over here feeling like i'm i'm not like them i'm and i don't know who your ex was by the way if he's if he's popping or anything i'm sorry but like you know they're like all that shit like normal dudes don't got to do that normal dudes their girl goes to work maybe she got to talk to some customers and shit and she comes home.
8:32Maybe she goes to the bar or the club or whatever here and there. But like for the most part dudes just don't have to like constantly feel like their bitch is being threatened by all these other dudes who are probably. Is your bitch being threatened? Nah she's chilling. Nah she's chilling. But she's getting dicked. Dick down and she's still like I'm not I'm not stressing it. You say these words on YouTube? Dick yeah. I could be talking about like Dick Tracy. Richard. Uh oh. Since when you got a filter, you be saying all type of shit on YouTube. You ain't got no filter. You a fake hoe. A fake hoe?
9:08Take your ass to the front. What the fuck? No, because you rap about all this other shit, but then you don't really like. In real life, you got a man like the city girls. No, in real life, I'm tough. Tough? That's kind of a different thing. I feel like I portray tough and I am tough because I'm forced to be tough. Yeah. It's like, if you're not tough, you're getting bitched. I want to get bitched. Yeah, so let's break it down, though. So let's talk about some of your back story and shit. Okay. So what part of Chicago are you from? I'm from over east, but I done lived everywhere. I done lived on 69th and Jeffrey.
9:42I done lived in Harvey. I done lived on the low end. I done lived in the suburbs. I done lived in DT. I done lived in so many places. So what part did you claim the most? Or like, which part did you say? Honestly, I've never lived nowhere. 69th, I grew up right there. But after like my like middle ages, like 12, I've house hopped every year, honestly. So I can't really claim a block. I've been there for a year. Why house hopping so much? Evictions, trouble. Yeah, evictions, trouble, stuff like that. What was going on with your family situation? It's like we was good. Then we lost our Section 8 voucher and shit started going bad.
10:20And then schools, I was jumping from school to school because I was doing bad shit in school. and I'm like, Mom, I can't go back to the school. They're trying to get me. And she's like, she's not believing it until it's like, oh, wait, my baby in danger. I have to move her. So she's like, that was happening. We was getting evicted. Then I started house hopping. Then I was getting kicked out because I just, like, once we start house hopping and you lose the, like, the stability. Yeah, the stability in a household. It's just like you feel like you growing up faster than what you really is and what you think and shit, and you just start doing your own bad shit.
10:55yeah I mean having your house and your family and shit that's like your safety net yeah so when you start losing that you go outside so you feel like that made you like grow up way faster all of a sudden you started being around a lot of shit that you wouldn't have necessarily been around otherwise like a lot of shit like my brothers a lot of the reason why I'm like I am today is because I grew up around them like they raised me in a way yeah because I see you I heard you say a couple times that your mom she's ending out your life yeah like what do you mean by that like Like Where's she going?
11:26She's a disappear ass Motherfucker That's what I see you saying I love mama though I love you I love you mama But you do disappear Like she do disappear If she get a boyfriend She going on your ass What? If she fans something She like she gone If she not happy mentally Like she was going through A breakup one time And I swear to god We was living in the same house But we did not see our mom For a whole week What? Like she will really Distance herself And I be having that bad And I be like Trying to get out of there Like fuck That's a trait That I don't want So You ain't been to therapy yet? I went to one therapy.
11:55I went to a therapy when I was going to XL. And I was going through, it was crazy. Because around that time, I was going through, I was losing a kid. Yeah. And I had got kids. We was getting evicted. I was living with my boyfriend. We had broke up. Was losing a kid. Losing a kid? Yeah, I was pregnant. It was dying. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. So that shit was happening. And that's when they, oh, I started threatening. Oh, I was being terrible to the teachers. Like, cause my brain was so screwed. Like, I'm just like telling you teacher, fuck them. I ain't doing this shit. Like just mad as fuck at the world.
12:28So then the teacher, like, she was like really cool. Like, even if I was arguing with her being mean to us, like, she was like, you just need therapy. Like, you just need to talk to somebody. So they would pull me out of class. A lot of my classes. And I just sit down and talk to a lady for a long, long time. I need her again. Like, right. Because you having a mom that seemed willing to like choose random dudes over you like that. I feel like that's the kind of thing that's going to really fuck you up in the head, which I'm surprised you have like the confidence and everything to be a rapper. Given those kind of experiences, like did you always sort of have like a confident personality or is that something you kind of came into as you get older?
13:03I feel like I would be in not famous, but I'm well known. You have to be confident within yourself because the comments are tear your ass up. But I feel like ever since I was a little girl, I always knew you're going to be hurt when you get older. You're not going to do this. You're going to have a lot of money. You gonna figure some shit out Like when we was getting evicted And they was forcing me To go to school I dropped out of school And I got me a morning shift At McDonald's Got me an afternoon shift At the mall And then had a night shift At Wendy's Like I'm like okay I'm gonna figure this shit out I'm not finna be hungry Trying to figure out When my next meal Gonna be off the next month I'm gonna do this shit myself Is McDonald's and Wendy's Cool with that Or do they look at that Like hood hopping Man I don't know Cause I used to come in that bitch With different uniforms Cause You cut my hours I need something else Fuck you telling me to go home, I gotta do something else.
13:49Yo, that's nuts. So at what age did you realize like, damn, my mom, she be disappearing and like, when did you realize like, damn, I'm out here by myself, type shit? Okay, so my sister, she had gave my sister to her dad because she had like some little shit happen before I was alive. So my sister will always tell me like, don't be close to mom. Don't think mom is such high. Stop doing this for mom. Stop doing this. Like, you need to realize that mom not gonna be there and like, I don't know, mom, mom not gonna be there. Mom, I'm gonna be here. Mom, I'm gonna figure this shit out. Like, every time we got evicted, We got to sleep in the corner.
14:18We never slept in the corner. But like, if we got to do that, we got to do that. The wheels fall off. We sleeping in the car. We sleeping in the car. Like, I was ride or die by my hand. You wanted to believe in her. Yeah, I wanted to believe. Even if you maybe had reasons to not believe in her. Yes, and then I just got older and I was like, now, because like now, when I, because mind you, I just got out of this. This shit, when I'm telling these stories, don't think this shit years ago. This shit probably like four months ago. You feel what I'm saying? So like, when we was homeless, we was homeless for like, I probably think like four months in and then I started living with my dad and that's when I had picked up all the jobs and shit and was going through the alternative schools and shit and my mom kept telling me like I'm finna get us a crib, I'm finna get us a car and it was like I was praying on that day that she called me and was like oh I got us this, I got us that and that day never fucking came so I'm like okay well we're gonna have to figure some shit out so then she started, actually no she paid for my studio, she helped me pay for shit like she wasn't, she wasn't no dad beat ass mom she was trying to figure out a way but at the same time my mom has a bad pet like bad past like she didn't had worse shit going with her life than me so like i never tried to judge my mom as a like a oh you're a fucking dad b i always try to think like she has mental shit going on and i'm dealing with that so i know how it feels to just want to sit in your room and just cry all day so like i used to try to like give her sympathy passes but i'm like what day you gonna step up and figure some shit out so when it was my chance i did it that's like a very adult perspective on that because i feel like a lot of people kind of come into that sort of perspective when they're like 30 or 40 or some shit where they can really like empathize with their parents and everything they were going through.
15:49That's pretty impressive that you're so young and you're able to look at your mom and like get that about her. Yeah. So once I figured out like I got to do this shit on my own and then I start blowing up with music online. Nobody believed in the fucking rap. Mom did. Not going to lie. She was investing her. Yeah. Mom, you did. She was dropping me off. She was taking her boyfriend's car, taking me to the studio sessions. Like she was figuring some shit out for me. And then I'm like, okay, I got to put some money behind this shit. I got to put these rap checks behind this shit. And then that's when I just started rapping.
16:21So where's dad at at this song? You never mentioned him. Oh, my dad. Hey, my dad. What's up, dad? He be watching my shit. Hey, dad. I love my dad. But as far as household, like he's there? He's there. But both my parents have like, they own past trauma. So like me and my dad, I live with him. Well, currently. well before I was doing all this shit but I have I stayed with my dad he's real cool like yeah he's real cool but he go through his own so while your mom was out doing whatever she's doing your dad was there being so who was really raising you you said your brothers at the time they were brothers boyfriends grandma like it was a lot of everybody like a lot of but you named a lot of dudes though so a lot of that's why yeah yeah yeah a lot of a lot of my boyfriends yeah shout out to them you'd be just using them up and then just moving on oh you let me stay at your house oh your mom cook oh babes i'm here so you're hobosexual what's hobosexual when you don't have a place to live so you basically just i mean if you have the homeless and you pretty you don't even gotta open up i know that's what i'm thinking is like half the niggas i didn't have sex with when a woman like a man you will see a man who's homeless who's in good shape he's like you know a good looking dude whatever yeah he's strung out on drugs or whatever but he homeless a woman you almost never see up anywhere close to attractive homeless woman because they've just got a natural way that they're going to be able to earn a living until so if they if you see a homeless woman she's fucked beyond belief typically just really beat yeah totally um anyway okay so you're moving around when does the rapping thing even come into the picture like you know at what point you start thinking about that it was one of these boyfriends who put the battery in your back called out so i had a rapper boyfriend he would take me to the studios but i wasn't rapping at the time okay so then i was all like this shit so then we him had broke up and i was like i had seen his um i was logged into his phone on my phone like a copy of his phone on my phone so i had seen that was one of the weirdest things anyone's ever done in that interview with me that you just switched into this like yeah cadence okay i didn't i was in his phone one day and i had seen um some money some money from a label.
18:53Got it. And I was like Oh, so he got signed. Yeah. Are we supposed to know who it is? No. I know. No. You know. I might. Air it out. No, don't fucking do that. You fucking geeky. I think it's gonna come up. But yeah, and I was like oh yeah, this rap shit pay. I'm full of gray. Let me get in this bitch's rap. So I made a diss. If he's known enough to get signed, then we probably know. A lot of people saying that motherfuckers ain't known. Yeah, but we probably know. Oh yeah, yeah. We're kind of in the mix, right? Let me see that tattoo. I fucking hate this dude. What the fuck? Let me see. Let me see.
19:28No, I don't have no tattoo. I have a butterfly tattoo. Yeah, let me see. You probably got a bunch of dudes tattooed on you. Okay, fuck no. Okay, sorry. That one? I can't tell the name, though. Yeah. So they did good. It's in Arabic. Oh, word. You will never be able to. Out here? You gotta get your dude's name on your face. Fuck no. I would never get another name tattooed on me. No? No. Never? Mm-mm. Unless it's my baby daddy. are you just too uh traumatized or is it like you know that young love is not necessarily meant to last correct on both okay totally yeah i guess once you cover up one tattoo you're either the kind of person who gets a tattoo covered up one time and then keeps getting lovers tattooed on them or you're the person who like just keeps doing it for the rest of your life yeah well so you said you seen that number in the phone and you was like all right i could do this shit yeah this type of that yeah so i went to the studio and when i went to the studio everybody was fucking with it in the studio the studio was deep then i had gotten some hot cars then when i was in a hot car and they was playing it and a hot car being a stolen car no oh i thought that's what a hot car i mean the gas is running low um so yeah i was in a hot car and they was playing a song and they knew the song and they was fucking with it i'm about to keep rapping So off the rip You're like alright I bet this is gonna work out Yeah If my homies fuck with it The world will fuck with it So then how seriously And how soon Like alright You recorded that first song Like how quick were you Back in the studio Long time I had no money So it took a minute To actually I ain't gonna lie I didn't start After that song That song was probably A year ago And what song was that It's not out It's not even out Alright It's called Dis Some shit Some shit Who'd you dis Everybody Really Yeah If that song comes out Oh, so you never put it out.
21:17Okay. You can't whistle? Me neither. Nigga, you ain't hear it? I can't whistle.
21:27Every different combination of ways I can shape my lips, it doesn't make a whistle noise. Yeah, because your lips kind of weird. They're like, they shit like this. They shit like you doing this. Why am I always getting roasted by teenagers on the show these days? that's right so you said that you your lips will look like this one day too that's crazy as you pop now I'm gonna be looking at my lips in the mirror so alright so like you do one song and then you say you gotta get your money up to do the next song alright yeah so like what's the what's the process and how long did it take for you to like alright I'm gonna take this serious I'm recording every day oh recording every day I still wasn't recording every day when I had when I had did that where I'm from and I had did that on the mic that was probably like my second session ever and that shit blew up yeah so damn so you was getting attention real quick yeah and then that's when I started getting free sessions like after that the recording person reached back out to me and was like I wanna do you a session for free cause you could tell I didn't have the money I booked it for two hours and did like four songs and did you put it on your YouTube channel or I put it on a dude YouTube channel it was like money bag TV or some shit like that alright and he was just giving you the sessions cause he just believed in you thought you could go up that's dope hell yeah damn so like that dude like how did he feel about the fact that you kind of started rapping because of him and then all of a sudden you sort of start blowing up like i mean he probably felt some kind of way about that right he just be texting me he really like he don't really i don't know he just told me he was like you're he had seen something going viral on tiktok of me rapping and he sent this and he was like you're a mini me so that's a dish but i do be stealing his lyrics and steal his outfit so shit like what do you expect?
23:09You still kick it with him? You still go over and borrow clothes? You're looking at me like I didn't just repeat what you said. You like pizza? I mean I try to eat healthy for the most part. Y 'all be making diss songs towards each other? You look like you were like Harris Chicken. You had Harris Chicken. I had Harris. They got Harris out here though. Oh that's nasty. I ain't had the one in Chicago but they got it out here. See y 'all do be making diss songs to each other. I think I'm on the song. Nigga, I said, no, the distance is with Harold's Chicken. They got a new chicken out here. The drill artists, that's how they show love.
23:46They write diss songs. They don't know any other way to communicate. No, we don't have diss songs with each other. You never send bars his way that only he would recognize were about him? Yeah. That's like some Taylor Swift shit.
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25:07Low end? Yeah, during this time. We don't say the low end. No, I'm asking. Like, was you spending time over there? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The ex-boyfriend used to stay on the low end. Oh, word. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right, so why y 'all on there dissing each other and shit? We don't diss each other. All right, so then I got two people mixed up then. Yeah. All right, for sure then. I seen a fuck Aspen song drop. Oh, no, no, no. Fuck no. That is not who we're talking about. Fuck his ass. Noah. Yeah, I thought there was something there. No, no, no, no. So why the fuck that? Oh, I'm sitting here entertaining and shit or thinking it's funny and we literally have two different brains right now.
25:45But you see why it match up though? Yeah, no, no. Me and him never dated. So where the fuck that? Where all that energy come from? I'm in the dark. Me getting some clout and motherfuckers just want to piggyback behind it. So y 'all never used to be a thing? Mm-mm. That's crazy. Y 'all had to have something going on. No. Cause usually I don't be seeing dudes make a whole diss track Towards a female so like when I seen that No we didn't have shit going on He just Me and him had got into it It was a long time ago before the fame We got into it He reached back out a year later when I started getting poppin And was like oh let's link and shit Let's be cool like we was before And I'm like fuck no And then he was like oh I mentioned your name in the interview And I was like you take it out And he didn't take it out and then I finally heard the interview but the interview had been out for so long I never watched that shit and then somebody sent it to me and was like hey he talking about you on this bitch I'm like fuck why you do that bro okay I was just playing I don't figure it out Chad GBT who has Aspen Cartier dated there are no publicly confirmed romantic relationships involving Aspen Cartier while rumors have swirled in TikTok circles particularly about possible connections with Buka the G or drill rapper Dede Osama none of them have been substantiated Yeah, that's new.
27:00I don't date them. Those aren't the dudes that you were just talking about? All right. Well, we're definitely talking about Book of the G right now, for sure. Okay, okay. That's what we're talking about with the music song. He dropped the Fuck Aspen song. I don't know. So did you come up with Free Clout first? Or he did? Free Clout was first. All right. So you dropped Free Clout. And I think you mentioned kind of like sent the shot his way. And he dropped the whole Fuck Aspen right after that. So I'm like, that's what threw me off. So I was thinking. That pays good on the other rhythm. My name was in the title.
27:25Yeah. Yeah. So y 'all kind of turn each other up No I'm not turning them up You feel like you're turning them up Yeah for sure Y 'all helping though each other No I don't So it wasn't no strategic shit No So is it like the kind of thing where You guys hate each other And you don't talk to each other at all Or is it the kind of thing where like There's still a little bit of banter back and forth I had some McDonald's today And that shit really fucked with my stomach What's your order there? 10 piece chicken nugget No sauce? Barbecue, ranch, buffalo, sweet and sour All the sauces You just put them in front of you Do you ever put two on one piece at the same time?
28:11Oh fuck yeah, the buffalo and a ranch Whoa Now you're ODing Damn Why you let that nigga drop you off in your house hood Or his house hood, really I was never dropped off That's what you said though I hopped out the car Oh, yeah. You hopped up the car in his opposite or your opposite? I don't know though. Oh, so it ain't your opposite. Who are your ops? I don't have no ops. Your song sound like you have ops. She definitely got a couple of ops. I can name a couple of them. Okay, nah, don't name shit. Nah, I'm definitely finna name one of them. I seen Blazing Dog recently just had a fuck Aspen diss a song in the song recently.
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28:50I'm like, where'd that come from? I shouldn't even have done this interview. She wanted to do a feature That was my homegirl You needed a feature With somebody else That's your homegirl Oh yeah Cause you used to Kick it with Journey Or you know Journey Old girl that used to Date school right Yeah I used to know her Y 'all not cool no more But that was Was that on Journey's song Yeah Alright for sure Cause that's where she Yeah So where you and Journey Relationship went wrong at Cause y 'all used to be All rotating We used to be cool It went wrong When it just wasn't like Just like Respect and a friendship Yeah Word Word Word Journey's the girl that was on the porch.
29:25Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, maybe trying to throw the backdoor title on y 'all and all type of shit. How you be feeling? How common is it for, like, girls to really be on some backdoor shit in Chicago? Very common. Like they be on it like that? Yes. So that's why you fell out with her? Or were you guys backdoor chicks together? No. No. So you fell out with her because she was backdooring people? Yeah, I see why people want to just pick your laboo eyeballs out. Your fucking skull. You just say laboo-boo? No, your pink laboo-boo. You have a laboo-boo? No, your pink laboo-boo. Blue-blue eyes.
30:03Oh, right, right, right. Because they're too blues. Nobody's ever tried to gouge my eyes out, which I'm thankful for. You never had a laboo-boo? That's not like what's in the Chirac scene. Laboo-boo, laboo-boo, laboo-boo. Is Bukid DG buying girls laboo-boo? I swear to God, your ass irritating. No more gray. Why the fuck do you keep saying his fucking ass? Hey, don't put that on someone's grave. That freaks me out. We're going to be cool. No merchant. O-Tay. Okay.
30:34You teed up out here, though. All right, so what's up with you, Auntie? Who's Chicago, Auntie? Who's Auntie? Shit, I don't know. You dissing her a whole bunch of songs. Who's Auntie? So you don't know who Auntie is, but you just. No, I swear to God, who's Auntie? No, I'm tripping. Hottie. Oh. Hottie, you know what I'm talking about. It's no beef. Where y 'all just come back and forth? I had an unreleased song drop, and then she had said some little shit on TikTok about her, her opinion, because that's what the video she do. She share her opinion. When you share your opinion, sometimes you get your shit smacked.
31:04So Chicago had to go and get your shit smacked, dump the Drake, stop doing that bad. So you with all the smoke, though, because I don't see you dunking nobody. When it comes to all this rat shit, you with all that shit? You dumping the Drake. Dumping the Drake, I'm touching his belly, painting the scene, I realize spaghetti, shaking his ass.
31:22yeah dumping the Drake is crazy I can't even like I never hung out with a girl that talked about shit like that ever look like you a dump a drink why your nose so fucking close to the mic so it can be as loud as possible sometimes I just plant my face on there you got a lot of fucking pores put that motherfucker down I do have a very porous nose you're probably the first person that's ever said that to me during an interview though you're breaking a lot of ground
31:48she teed up she teed up so wait okay how do you go from someone who's recorded a couple songs and you got the on the like how do you really start taking off from there and how did it happen so fast in just a couple of months like where and where do you feel like you're at right now like how's how are you feeling in terms of where you're at where you need to be going right now like 10 questions um right now i feel like i'm with him in a grade a i'm with my label i'm with labels i'm out of town i'm having on the YouTube channel. I'm on TikTok. Like, I'm very placed myself in every situation I can't be right now.
32:25So I feel like I'm doing, I'm going hard right now. I'm working. I'm grinding. I'm trying to get to where the top, I'm trying to get to where I can feed the family. When did Grade A start reaching out? They reached out to me about me, but then I thought they was bullshit. So then I didn't text they ass back, but then when I had got my mind, they reached back out. So, yeah. Why you thought they was on bullshit, though? Because the way they was texting, it wasn't, like, it wasn't BB himself. It was somebody else. so it just seemed like somebody playing on my phone yeah like when AP reached out I texted her and she texted in the group I'm like who the fuck is this I thought all that shit was a joke I thought rap was a joke honestly you thought rap was a joke yeah like labels and shit ain't a label reaching out to me you know what I mean you don't feel like you had enough for a label to reach out so who the fuck is you playing on my phone when did labels start actually reaching out to you in the beginning early quick right Yes, when I dropped my, once I dropped, before I even dropped the song on YouTube, that shit was on somebody else's platform.
33:22I had dropped a fucking on the mic and it was reaching out. You know what I mean? So like, I'm just like, this is bullshit. All right. So when you do get labels reaching out, who do you go to for like your opinion? Like, all right, what do y 'all think about this label? Who you was in? Then I had got my manager, Kaden. Yeah, my boy Kaden Hudson and shit. So how did Kaden find you? Instagram. All right. So he reached out on IG? Yes. And then what? Y 'all, you came? Alright so that makes sense Why you be in Hollywood and shit Cause I seen a couple Music videos And you in spots out here I'm like alright Cause you kinda close To where Some spots that I've seen you And I'm like You gotta be in LA a lot And that was when You was dealing with Kaden Yeah And then I guess Grade A found you And scoot you up Yeah Tight shit So it be moving like that So what made you Cause the first deal They offered you Was like 15 ,000 Not Grade A But like you got a deal Offer for like 15 bands or some shit Like that How the fuck do you know this I do my homework.
34:14What are we doing? Tapped in. Yeah. Like the Wi-Fi. I got that deal quick, and everybody was telling me don't sign. And you all instantly, you know, like, it ain't nothing. That's like shit. Yeah. All right, so then they start talking correct, and then you actually went. Yeah. Put pins to the paper? Yes. Yes, sir. And did that give you, like, a whole different level of confidence? Yes. Just having, like, a pretty iconic label or management wanting to work with you? Yeah. Of course. All of a sudden you're in league with a lot of people who are really doing their thing out here. You got so many guns in the videos.
34:48That's with all these fucking machine guns and shit. Yeah, you and Lady Melana got this shit teed up. Why you didn't bring her? She out here in L.A. but she didn't pop up. What y 'all be on? She's sleepy right now. Word. It is 8 p.m. She been out. We been out. And since L.A. we haven't had no stops. Okay. Yeah. What y 'all be out late night doing? studio after this studio do you feel like you can't trust her because she can't make an interview at 8pm no that's I mean that's an issue gotta be able to depend on your what the fuck your people um this interview they reached out to me about this interview I didn't even know she was gonna come oh yeah she wasn't planning to be on it yeah y 'all just be kicking it yeah I just knew y 'all be kicking it so I figured she was gonna be with you type shit usually she would yeah so where y 'all friendship and shit stem from Instagram Oh word So I just thought Y 'all grew up together And shit so So break that down Like you've seen her On Instagram Yeah we was friends On Instagram for a long time She started supporting me Like no other And then I just Fucked with her Is she actually related To Osama Bin Laden No Oh I don't know I don't know who that is No That's funny That's funny So y 'all Y 'all just friends From music and shit though Cause I Cause how tight y 'all look It look like y 'all Might have been cousins And shit So y 'all really recently Just locked in Yeah And who was rapping first?
36:12Me. And then you got her, you put her on the rapping and shit, right? Yeah.
36:18What? That shit's thing. You don't like weed smells? No. At all? But you're fucking all over that vape. I just got, I've made a story time about me getting laced, that's why I don't like it. Oh God, that's why I was about to ask you, why they saying you got laced? Well, you asked you when, told people you got laced. Yeah, I got laced. In LA? No, I got laced a long time ago. I stopped smoking. I haven't been smoking since I was like 17. But the way you told the story It seemed like you got laced recently You gotta watch the story time Laced like your weed Had something in it? Yes Like what? What do you think it was?
36:47It was You gotta watch the story time You're sending us to a TikTok You're saying Fuck this interview Go watch my TikTok I'm not sending y 'all to a TikTok I'm sending y 'all to a YouTube But like I was fucking explained this shit A thousand times But it just went viral Within like the last Two, three days Yeah Everybody talking about it So Supposedly you smoked a blunt That had K2 in it Or some shit Yeah In Chicago That's some good shit.
37:11I'm saying a lot of people smoking out on purpose. Blueface smoking out on purpose right now. But everybody's body can handle the same type of drugs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what was the situation where you knew you was laced? Like, how to play? Walk us through that day. First of all, that day, it was cool. Like, everything was cool. It was one of the days my mom had to go to work. And then I went to a party with one of my boyfriends at the time. And then he went to go get liquor. And I was too thirsty to smoke, which I should never been. and then I let somebody roll my blunt and I wasn't in the room.
37:40There's so many red flags I'm seeing on myself. But, yeah, I came back, smoked a blunt with them. My job got to locking up. I got to season. I got to getting over high. I got to walk. I couldn't hit them no more. That's crazy. That's never happened to me, man. Thank God. Yeah, it was terrible. Taking all these random pills, smoking all these random blunts over the years, and I never really got hit with anything weird. So that totally turned you off to weed forever. Thank you. I had smoked again with my mom and I greened out like it was just like the same type of experience but it wasn't laced like it was just in regular weed do you do other drugs?
38:15you taking pills and shit? I pop perks all the time or like once in a blue? once in a blue okay you pop them or you snort them whoo cause you know you got the bloodhound you know everybody be saying you the new bloodhound little Jeff you got the comparisons going on so I'm trying to figure out how you consuming them perks I knew you reminded me of somebody you don't see the tattoo How do you feel about the Jeff comparisons anyway? It's cool. You don't mind it? I mean, he's like the top artist out of Chicago, so that's what they do to anybody. Like somebody come behind Chicago, they're going to put you with somebody else.
38:48It's just how Chicago works. I feel like they compare you to Jeff, and then early on they was comparing you to Star Benz. Yeah. But they're saying like you're like the more vulgar version of them. I don't understand. We and her don't rap nothing alike. We don't rap nothing alike. We don't look nothing alike. I know. She comes off as such like a kid. Yeah. um you wanna do a song with her why different market no just like she's just different like I would do a song with her but like you're not a girls girl I would do a song with her but like I like big artists and I wouldn't do a song like I love Clara LaSan I think that's her name I love Party Next Door I love Drake but I wouldn't do no song with them cause I'm not their genre of music I'm not their speed you wouldn't do a song You don't just do songs to do a fucking song.
39:36You do a song because you and this motherfucker will make a hit. You know what I'm saying? I think you can make a hit together. Who do you want to work with? Who's your go-to? Right now? G Herbo. That's easy, right? It seems like that one's going to be the next one, right? I don't know. In-house type shit? Yeah. Besides G Herbo, who else you work with? A lot of people have died. Like Young Pappy Go Go Just Big Go Big Go Big Go Big Go I feel like Oh Lil Double O Can't forget him Lil Double O I'm fun of him I feel like me and him rapper Like when you hear me rap It's like She's saying something Like if you hear me rap And like I rap with Like if I rap Like if you hear a song And my friends hit a song They be like G why you just say that shit in a song But if a random person Hit that song They gonna be like She just talking about anything But like when I send the shit To my homies and shit And my brothers and shit They be like But why would you say that shit in the situation?
40:34I'd be like, nobody's ever going to know. You know what I mean? Yeah. So, yeah. If I tried to put together an all-star Chicago female song, you and three other girls, who would you pick? Three other girls? Yeah. From Chicago? Yeah. Female rap? Yeah. Drill? Or just anybody? Sure. Shit, I don't know. Okay. That's probably a tough question. I don't know. There's not a lot of female juror rappers like me. Well, what about female rappers in Chicago? There's a lot of female rappers. There's a lot of female rappers in Chicago, but to put it on a good song, we don't. I can't name three. No cipher. That's not how y 'all get down.
41:18I posted the other day about you saying that, because you went viral recently, but you're saying that you put Chicago on the map. Yes. And people was feeling their way about you saying that. First of all, I feel like What I said in the interview It got clipped wrong It got clipped wrong So first he said, like, female drill Who else do you know that's rapping female drill With Drake's in a video Please pull a video up and tell me that she doing streams She doing the numbers I'm doing You know what I mean? So when I say, like, putting Chicago on the rap I wasn't saying, like, I'm fucking She writes about you What was her last song?
41:56Move, move, move I'm not doing that. You know what I mean? I mean, I'm just saying, I mean, I feel like I've seen some guns in her videos over the years, right? But, like, that's the past. She switched her whole dynamic up. Like, she didn't get known for that. She got known for juke music. She's hard as fuck with twerking. You know what I mean? She can make a bitch move. Make a bitch get up. She just dropped the drill song today, though. Oh, yeah. She dropped the trailer. Yeah. So she getting back in that drill bag. Yeah. I know you've seen some of the comments. people throwing shade your way.
42:27I've seen some of the female Chicago artists in the comments not feeling that statement that you made. Yeah, a lot of them got on that bitch and went to the studio and said, I'm the real queen, Drake. You know what I'm fucking, you know what I mean? But if you doing that, you feel a way. And if you saying that you feel offended by that, that mean I scare you. I'm a competition to you. But you know, I'm right here. I fuck with that energy though. You ain't take it back. You standing on it. Yes. What the fuck? I'm the hardest. What the fuck you talking about? Now I'm the hardest out the rack. What you gonna say?
42:55You know what I mean? Like, that's like motherfuckers saying, oh, I'm the lowest in Iraq. Who the fuck want to be known for saying some shit like that? I'm from them great. Like, y 'all let's be tweaking. Like, I don't know why motherfuckers get on it. Like, that's like you being in the car with killers and you'd be like, yeah, I'm the one that just don't shoot. You going to want to be like, I'm the top shooter. What the fuck? I mean, there's a long history in rap of rappers coming out and saying that they're the king of their city before they necessarily 100 % are recognized as that. and then it ends up basically getting them a lot of attention.
43:28Somebody like T.I., somebody like Dolph was saying that he was the king of Memphis, right? And that fucking pissed Gaudi off back in the day. But like a lot of people kind of get eyeballs on them from saying that at the right time. If you get pissed off in that statement, that means you was intimidated by the person that said that shit. Like if somebody else got on this bitch and said, I'm the hardest out of Chicago, I'm yeah, that bitch wrong. Like I don't be into the tearing motherfuckers down so when y 'all get on this bitch tearing me down, I be looking at y 'all sideways it's like y 'all hating ass you know what I mean like that's some hating ass shit that's what I felt like Chicago hottie was doing that's why I said I'm smack like she's a motherfucker that when y 'all seen her coming out the rack I'm like finally we got a girl fucking influencer around this bitch like I followed her in everything like I'm Chicago Hollywood?
44:09Chicago hottie? I'm like damn that's the Chicago we didn't have influencers she's one of the top influencers and I'ma give her that she I was having a rack motherfuckers know her outside of the rack you know she can go to a different city and get known so when you get on this bitch and like downplay the next motherfucking success it's like damn why you do that you know what I mean like damn I thought we could all win together it's a lot of money out here nah I feel you so you just felt like she was throwing shade instead of supporting yeah but she didn't even have the support she could've just shut the fuck up yeah yeah for sure alright so besides yourself who you feel like you know put Chicago on the map though Lady Bin Laden yeah she hard as fuck I like that answer yeah she top dog bitch bigger than me she right way better than me is it weird being compared to Jeff so much does it make you ever want to just go get some hats?
45:00Steve, you hungry again? Because I'm definitely hungry. I mean, those are big shoes to fill. What the fuck? Being compared to a boy is just like I'm not a boy, okay? I've never came out to portray him. I've had a hand tag for fucking two years. That's the main thing. I've had a hand tag for two years. I think he's been rapping for a year. So you had that before Jeff had his? I don't know where he had his. You never hung out with him? No. You never met him? No. Do you hang out with him? I don't believe that answer right there. What was that? No. Too many bad enough odds, though. No. You got like bashful.
45:38You was around some of the people, though. No. For sure, though. No. You wasn't around school? All right. What the fuck? I'm going to let you rock out. I'm going to let you rock out. You're like friends with a bunch of girls who've been around them and all that shit? No. No? You've never been around Q50? Who signed to the same label as you? We did a show together. Ooh, okay. We was in the same building. Would y 'all do some music? Would you do some music at Q50? Would Q50 do some music with me? I don't know. That's what I'm asking. I don't know. As long as you don't fuck with the Ops, probably.
46:10In Chicago, everybody fucks with somebody else. All right, so how do you choose? You fuck with Great A, you know what I'm saying? Do you feel like you have to take on whoever they might be Ops with? No. Yeah, you don't go into a situation like that? They don't got shit to do with me. Yeah. You don't go into a situation like that, right? That's like seeing I'm no limit and I'm from essence. Yeah. And I'm stepping on niggas that say fuck essence. You know what I mean? Like, that's just some dick-rack shit. You know? So when you sign the grade A, they don't, like, give you a list of people that you're not allowed to fuck with anymore?
46:38No, they don't do that. Okay. That's very mature of them. When you put people in an interview, dude, never mind. Well, sometimes, you know, when people join the podcast, they might kind of have to understand that. Now you don't get to fuck with so-and-so. Man, fuck them niggas. Yeah, well, that's one way to look at it. F-T-O.
47:01Okay, but... You got shot at? I love Greenville. How about I got shot at? Yeah. Alright, so what's it like being a young chick getting shot at and shit in Chicago? Every day was blank. Yeah. That day was blank. It was just like a... I'm alive. But don't make you Because you made the smart decision Of like you know what I'm from Chicago But I got some money I'm gonna move out this motherfucker I heard you say that In multiple interviews Like you advise people To leave Chicago Yeah leave Chicago Especially if you got beef You know what I mean But like Like how we was just saying I don't wanna say Their name But like some people Like Chance the Rapper You don't gotta leave Chicago We can say their name We gonna say it But like you said Like recently You was just driving past The marriage store We ain't gonna say their name But you seen somebody Lacking outside the marriage store that's a well-known Chicago river.
47:51Yeah. So how often is it where you might be riding around? I ain't gonna lie. I've seen so many motherfuckers. Like, before I got caught, I've seen so many motherfuckers, like, just dangling. Yeah. He was just outside. He just outside. He right there on that block right there. I mean, if you're popping up somewhere quickly and randomly, it's like a lot of times people will feel safe doing that. I get people saying that to me a lot of times. Like, whoa, you're like, here, just by yourself. I'm like, I just popped up. I'm gonna be here for 10 minutes, then I'm gonna leave. But you could die in that 10 minutes.
48:20Yeah, but it's pretty unlikely, right? No, it's not unlikely in Chicago. You see how Dougie was just going to get him some clothes. Yeah. His man said that morning, he's probably like, I'm going to go shopping and leave. Yeah, but he wasn't thinking about the fact they had them lines outside. If they didn't have them lines outside and he just walked his ass up in there, then the other dude wouldn't have seen him standing out there and it probably wouldn't have gone down like that. So it was really like just like COVID shit is really what kind of led to that happening, which is actually insane to think about.
48:50Nobody think they finna die when they finna die. To be fair, like Duck, a very dangerous, wanted individual, realistically. You know, him standing out there is kind of crazy. That's him taking sort of a significant risk. Yeah. But, so you dropped out of school? When? Yeah, I dropped out, like, my sophomore, junior year. Because of this rap shit, or what? No, no, no. You just not feeling it? Like I said, my parents, my mom had got evicted. I had to get a job. Uh-huh. Yeah. Oh, okay. We talked about that, right? Yeah. Damn. Will you ever go back and get your GED? Yes. You're thinking about it? No, I am.
49:28When I go back home, I pick up my transcripts. Oh, you do? I have a meeting. Yeah. Oh, word, word. So you're on top of it? Yeah, I was doing good in school. Like, I went to Mutual Color Prep. I had A's and B's. Like, I wasn't even a C type of bitch, you know? Can't see me. But I was real good in school. Like, Jesus did tell you, I write notes, study. I was a school type of bitch. I want to go to college. I want to be a lawyer. Hmm. Yeah. You still thinking about it? Yeah. Rap ain't gonna last forever. We gotta figure out something else. But you gonna be off some ends by then. You probably ain't gonna be a lawyer by then, right?
50:01It could be a fun trait. Just a side hustle? You know, like Kim K? Kim K? Yeah, she went back and did it. Yeah. Didn't she, like, not pass the test, though? All right. Not too much on my girl. That's what I'm just saying. Not too much on my girl. I think she finally did the bar. She did, right? She finally did. I think you're going to take it so many times, though. Yeah she passed it though I think Eventually you'll just get it Right by accident What's your relationship Like with Big Jada Big Shark ain't pretty None of these bro niggas Getting with it She teed up out here Yeah she lit I fucked with her That's my girl Yeah so y 'all Y 'all cool Y 'all got a working relationship Right Yeah What about You know Cause when you said The queen of drill You know people be calling you The new queen of drill And shit What you think about Katie Got Bands Was you ever listen to her music Coming up Cause she's like She was like one of the first people That we seen from Chicago Yeah Legend So how much influence or does she have any on you?
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51:50yeah she's a class clown she got contact yeah stop smoking that shit but nah she cool yeah you'll do a song with her I don't listen to her music you feel like you might have I mean I ain't heard her in a minute but I think she probably still when you rap you rap forever for the most part right yeah not everybody Not everybody. You got Lufo. Lufo out here. Disappeared on the motherfucker. Where you at, fo? Yeah, where you at, bro? You think you can get Bibi to drop some music? I got some unreleased Bibi. Really? Him actually rapping or he gave you a verse that he already had? Like he's still rapping.
52:31From 2013. No, it was a minute ago. Word, word. Whoa. So Bibi will just get in the studio and just not drop it? No, I don't think he gets in the studio. I think that was just an old song. Oh. Like his last songs that he did, he sent them to me. That'd be crazy. I feel like it would be hard for him to not have people document him rapping. Like everybody would be Snapchatting that shit. He too rich out here, man. He ain't even trying to get back in the studio. Hell no. You feel like he might have ADD? ADHD? Yeah. You think I got ADHD? Yeah. It seems like you kind of have a heart. And I think you got calmness disease.
53:02Fuck you talking about?
53:06Roasted. the jerk store called they're running out of you why does you spit when you talk
53:17that is one from the B1 yo she got roast yo you talk with a lot of spit I can just see it like I've been doing porn all day porn you do porn XX porn I've never seen you on air well you gotta dig a little deeper maybe if you in game bang You in gangbang category? Here and there. I watch gangbang. Are you serious? Nigga, I don't see you. Where you at? I'm actually doing my first gangbang soon. Yo, dick little? It's all right. It's above average. Do they be moaning? Sometimes. They be faking. I don't know if they're faking it or not yet. That's all dang crazy.
54:01But no, seriously, you think you have ADHD? because like you just seem like you kind of have a hard time like and you're very charming i think you're you're gonna go very far in the music game but you seem like you kind of have a hard time like zeroing in on the conversation like you sort of get bored you start twiddling your thumbs thinking about something else so what you're trying to say my interview ass no no i think this interview is great i just think it's you're kind of like amusing to me because you're sort of like just floating off into space at times like seems like you're just kind of in another world here and there as well yeah i guess nothing wrong with it yeah it's a little hard to I be trying.
54:35Fuck. You're new to this. You're young, yeah. If people were interviewing me when I was 19 or whatever the fuck you are, shit. Whatever the fuck you are, nigga, put some respect on this age. Fuck what you been talking about. Are you 19? No, 15. 15? Yeah. Shut the fuck up. Get out of here. Hey, do the laugh. You ready? I'm not, no. Nigga, it looks like you do that laugh. I'm not putting my tongue out for anything. But you would put your tongue out for that porn shit, huh? Yeah I mean that's different Consenting adults Y 'all write papers when y 'all do that shit Yep That's foreplay sign here
55:15Make a consent video I would love to be a videographer one day for one of those Yeah You might not have the stomach for it You gotta see some wild stuff Some smells Sometimes they be smelling shit If I ever hit something in this thing on Funnel Grave Get your stinking ass up. What was that?
55:39Yo, this chick's crazy, bro. You're going far. You're going up for sure. No, I see it though, for sure. Because this is very amusing. You got the personality to drive the music, for sure. You got niggas in your DMs and shit. How'd that be going on? I don't have an Instagram, so all my little hoes, which I alone, Texas, new page. Now, I'm being a great girl. I'm not dating. I'm not seeing. I'm not talking to nobody. You're focused on your career. Yes. There's probably like 15 dudes like, hell no, she's lying. Yeah, I can say that, but you can't get next to her. No, I mean because they're like hanging out with you in the real world.
56:15No, they don't. No dudes. No dudes. No more dudes. No more dudes. Respect. Yeah, that's only going to slow you down. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if I believe that. In reality, if you meet a great guy, you should try to form a relationship. but you know. I'm so young. It's love out there one day. Yeah, you got plenty of time. Yeah. Anything that's happening in your life at this point that might seem extremely important is a pretty good chance it's not really that big a deal and you shouldn't sweat it. So I always try to keep that in mind. Yeah. Life advice with Adam22 and Remo. What's your relationship?
56:50Did this nigga just promote himself?
56:54DJ Holiday. Swamp is a... Jet 2 Holiday. Hey, so what's your relationship with Mellow Bucks, though? Because y 'all got music and shit, don't they? Yeah, she cool. Was that like a label thing, or y 'all just like, hey, let's, you hit her up, and you're like, hey, let's do a song? She hit me up, and it was cool. Yeah. Got it clear. Got the video done. Shot it. Dropped it. Cool. Well, he back, bitch. You feel like there's a lot of competition? Because, you know, there's a whole bunch of females emerging from Chicago. Like, is it competitive, or y 'all all want to see, like, some of y 'all seem like it's competitive.
57:25I be wanting to see everybody win. It seemed like that from you, though, for sure. Yeah, I want to see everybody win Because I ain't gonna lie When I go back home And I finally go back home And I get off that flight And I touch back at my house And I see where I live at And I see everybody else living right here I don't want none of them living right there I don't want none of them doing what they gotta do to make a living That shit hard, that shit stressful That shit is depression I don't want to see nobody down I don't want to see nobody down Don't nobody deserve to be down in life I feel like everybody should just get it when they get born.
57:58You know what I mean? Like, there's no competition with me. You hard, I'm hard. Let's be hard. But are you, like, open and, like, are you doing the reaching out to collab with people? Or are you like, nah, I ain't for nothing? I don't reach out. But I like a picture. I like a picture. I like two pictures. But why you don't reach out? You feel like you too good to do that? No, sometimes I really feel like I was a nobody. So you're just starting to get used to people wanting to talk to you? Yeah, I don't be thinking nobody want to see me in a fucking DMs talking about, hey, you want to do a song?
58:29Sound like a dick rider? Or don't read my message? Because then one day you're going to beef with them and they're going to use it against you. Yeah. Because I know motherfuckers be like, you want to feature a bitch? You asked what feature you ain't getting. Now you make a diss, your dumb ass. Yeah. Yeah, so you stay away from that. I get it. That's what I'm saying. Definitely. Who could do G? I got to bring this up. He was like, man, you front your shit. You don't really be on shit. If I'm front my shit, I don't really be on shit. Why the fuck you make a whole song about me? If I ain't really on shit, you should have just let me be a bitch and worrying about your day.
58:57You know I'm her. That's why you made a song about me because you know I'm her. Shout out, Boogie. We're going to have to get him over here because Tate, you know Tate Savage? Uh-uh. That's Tate, little homie. Yeah, little homie. So when people say that you're not really about that life and that you are basically just faking this whole gangster persona, how do you feel about that? What's your response to that? If you think I'm faking that shit, If I'm not like that, if I'm just... If I'm thinking motherfucking like that, I'll leave their ass where they at. Just don't pay their ass no mind. You know what I mean?
59:29Okay. How do you... Because you've seen the Mellow Buck situation where I guess the party... When you see situations going on like that, do that make you change mentally? Maybe I don't need to be doing some of these dissing songs and shit. Maybe I'm going to fall back from some of that. Dissing songs? Yeah, because you be dissing a lot and shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, man, hold on, let me chill a little bit. Or like... Or do you have anybody in your corner that's telling you to chill? Like, slow down. People tell me that, but I'm going to do what I want to do. Yeah. But who's the person that you listen to that can get you to chill?
1:00:05My brother. Word. Yeah. So, yeah, when you get your brother called, he'll make you chill out a little bit and you're like, I'm doing too much. Yeah, he'll call you. Like, you tweaking. You tweaking. I got to go clap shit because you want to be tweaked. Oh, he be clapping shit?
1:00:22Oh, he claps. Yeah. Three times. In the crowd at a concert. How old's your brother? He's, I don't know, 23? He got to be in his early 20s, late 20s. Like mid-20s. How's he feel about you getting all this attention? Proud of you, sis. Go up. Overprotective, though? Like he? No. I don't really talk to him that much. I don't talk to nobody, really. Here and there. Why do you not have an Instagram? They banned it. Because I told somebody I was going to kill them. What? So now you got to start from scratch? And why are you on there tweeting telling people you're going to kill them anyway? Because I've seen that.
1:00:58Yeah, what is that? Man, because them niggas just playing with me. Like, they just be playing with me, and I be getting mad, so. Going to kill your ass. How many Instagrams do you have? This is your second, third? Third. You got to learn to, like, speak in code. You got to, like, do, like, a knife emoji, gun emoji. You can't write I'm gonna kill you What is that Like a little dance you've been working on Cool TikTok dance I haven't seen that one yet They're gonna say you know The McDonald's girls be crazy You seen the other little McDonald's chick that just went crazy You didn't see the chick from McDonald's that killed her Boss She went in there and styled him up You didn't see that You'll go do your homework on it But she was just wilding up Oh hell no So what's it like Being a Kia girl Kia girl What the fuck Kid or Kia A Kia girl I don't know Fucking Kia girl I rat S-R-T Durango Hellcat Bitch I'm laid up You were a Kia You like doing that shit I'm doing You were a Kia girl No No Never I learned how to drive a car With a Kia My grandma has a Kia A stolen Kia She pays a note, I think.
1:02:19Oh, okay. See, you're funny. You fuck with Nicki Minaj? Yeah. You fuck with all this crashing out she's been doing? No, I haven't been seeing Nicki. You don't look at Twitter? No, I fucking took my Twitter too. What? Yeah. Twitter's hard to lose. You gotta be wilding on Twitter. You gotta post butthole. You gotta really go crazy. You post butthole, you won't even get banned on Twitter. What the hell did you lose your Twitter? I'm not even going to say why I lost my Twitter Murder threats I don't think it's banned on there You got to do some shit on there You really got to do some shit on Twitter You can post pills, drugs, all that I know man girls who got banned on Twitter Because they put nudity in their header banner That's how they get you You can't put any kind of nudity up there Which I'm sure you wouldn't anyway Okay Anything else we should hit here Oh, Fully Chop or Lil Speedy?
1:03:24You trying to be fucking funny? This is a question. Who do you prefer? Man, fuck Speedy. Oh, shit. All right. Fully Chop. Next. Why don't you like Speedy? Little bitch said fuck me. Fuck you. Little dry head bitch. How you feel about the uh You know they be saying them niggas the new YN I wish I be calling y 'allself the YBs I don't call myself shit I don't know people came with Somebody called me that and I was like what the fuck that mean It was like YBs young bitches What the fuck Or young boys Young bitches YHs Young hoes You know what you mean Just an old man old head i'm a unk you got kids yeah yeah you want to see no i don't want to see them oh way she's so fucking cute don't touch she's not for the net why would i show your baby hey they might get your baby you know i just got i got defensive for a second i just want to see her blue eyes that's what i want to what they say.
1:04:40Right? Yes. Yeah, baby, I'm a fan as fuck, ain't she? You just met her. You ain't gonna get no Donald Trump clip on me. What the fuck is a Donald Trump clip? You never seen that clip of him talking about how hot his daughter is?
1:04:58Okay, he's a little weird, but... He's a little weird. Your daughter's beautiful. Thank you. Appreciate it. What's your thoughts on the current rap scene in Chicago right now? Curve rap scene? What's that? The current rap scene. The curvy rap scene. Like the fat rapper? Current rap scene that bitch hard. Yeah. Who you feel like got it right now? Who I feel like got the rap? Besides you and Lady Milata, we know y 'all got it, but besides y 'all too, who else got it? Fesso hard, Scrooley hard, Vaughn off 1700 hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Top three listeners. All right, before we get up out of here, I got to ask you this.
1:05:29Who would you put on the Mount Rushmore or Chicago drill music? YFG Fesso, Young Pappy, Lil Fo, Chief Keith. That's hard. That's a different list. Yeah. She's from a different era. Yeah, I fought with it though. Yeah. You listen to King Von? Oh, damn. I don't really listen to him like that. You listen to him like Dirk? Not like that. Okay. I listen to Dirk though, like on some bad shit. When I used to get high, hell yeah. Dirk back, back, back. Spin? Dirk don't even be talking about killing shit in his songs. I was talking about Von, but. Oh, yeah. And yes, he does. You're just not listening to the right songs.
1:06:06No, it's like mellow tone. It's like screwy shit. It don't even sound like he's talking about killing me. Dirk's too peaceful for you. It's not enough of a warrior. It's not bloody enough. I need some drill drill. I used to go to school, walk into school, I'm listening to Lofo for the catcher nigga. Oof. That's our problem, shorty. Probably one of the craziest interviews I've ever done. I can't wait to see what people say about this. We've done a lot of interviews. Stop fucking lying. I know, but you're a very interesting person. You teed up, for sure.
1:06:37See like what the fuck is that Okay What is this picture of you on the back of your phone That's my pretty ass mugshot Oh is that like your passport photo No it's my pretty ass mugshot Oh it's a mugshot That's from you getting locked up in LA No no this is actually an ID picture I just call it a mugshot That's what I was thinking I'm like it looks like a fucking ID photo But you did say you got locked up in LA though right Man I was trying to steal I was with somebody that was stealing Wait really Yeah. What are they stealing? What are you trying to get? Some Target shit. Some baby food and shit.
1:07:06They were stealing out the Target and they arrested you even though you weren't stealing? I was with them. So what? That's why I got let off. If me and him... Oh, you got let out? Yeah. But they still took you to jail? It's LA. I was in Orange County. If me and him walk into Target and he shopped or something, they are not arresting me. You're white as fuck. With blue eyes. No, I'm just a human being that didn't steal something. Why the fuck would they arrest me? To be honest, I wouldn't even attack you.
1:07:33motherfucker gotta let you put you down with some hot shit listen it's tough to get arrested in LA you can really wild out you not in the right seat when I was in LA I'm with them niggas so like I'm seeing police in the hood they not playing they stopping shit what hoods out here are you hanging out in what the fuck that shit was it was like some building it looked like Oblock it looked like the gardens now you said you know bounty hunters all type of shit yeah you been in the niggas and gardens Yes, I think that's what it's called. Really? Wow. Yeah. Who took you there?
1:08:05Well, I support this. You should go to all the hoods. Yep. I got to introduce you to OG Gumby. OG Gumby? Yep. He sound like he probably gumbo some shit. You fuck with EBK J-Bo? Yeah, my boy. I fuck with EBK J-Bo. I fuck with Stockton. Oh, shit. Really? That's cool. Yeah. I got a song with Lebo. Really? Yeah. We got to get him up here, man. What the fuck? Yeah, you gotta get Lebo up. Lebo, come check this shit out. Yeah, because, like, who knows when we're gonna have J-Bo out again. Yeah, free J-Bo. We gotta fuck with Pig. Where EBK Pig at? Hey, stop fucking playing with him. Why? Oh, yeah, Lebo, show his ass up.
1:08:42Motherfucker need to put you in that box tonight. How did I just play with him? I just said his name. Okay, bro. I mean, his name is Pig. That's, like, kind of funny, right? Oh, that is his name? Yeah. Oh, you're thinking that I'm just saying that? Yeah. Nah, nah, he on all that shit. Okay, Aspen Cartier. You ever been to Aspen? No. I'm going to work on that. Yeah. One of these guys out here. Q50. Take her on a trip. This nigga just threw quick. Shout out Q50. Shout out everybody, man. Take her to Aspen. You for sure again put in a bar if you take her to Aspen. Or if you buy her a Cartier watch.
1:09:24Or AP. Future Sellers just got APs. If Remo buys you a Cartier watch, you're going to put him in a bar? I got a lot of different ideas. You can rhyme Remo with chemo. Man, what the fuck is you talking about? You just over that chit-chat. Get your frat ass on that weed and got to your head. Stop smoking that shit. Remo therapy. Let me get the fuck up out of here. Okay. You can rhyme chemotherapy with Remo therapy. Shout out to people that ain't got chemo. Free y 'all. Free y 'all from cancer. Shout out to Remo. Shout out Aspen Cartier. We burning the midnight oil Shout out to Donnie on the boards I'm skiing for this shit to drop out Shout out Steve Cannon Yeah Steve we have to go Where you going?
1:10:08The airport You going back now? She's my friend's gonna leave Shout out Lady Bin Laden Shout out Osama Bin Laden What the fuck did you just try to downplay Lady Bin Laden with Osama? No I'm just shouting out her OG I want to date with Roars, Carti says. Roars? Rucker asks. This is the love story of real hinge couple Carti and Rucker. Written and read by me, Nicola Dynan. Listen to the free audiobook now. This episode is brought to you by ChatGPT. Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast. Have you guys heard about ChatGPT work? It's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects.
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