In short
The episode centers on Baby Shooter’s jail assault and the fallout from his case—how he ended up in county jail, what happened inside (including being placed in a “neighborhood dorm”/GP area), and how his own statements and recorded calls could hurt his legal situation. The hosts also debate broader hip-hop power dynamics and an alleged brewing conflict between academics and Charlemagne tha God, framed as tied to Roc Nation.
Guests and backgrounds
- Adam & Wack (hosts): run No Jumper/related street-rap media commentary; discuss legal strategy and media narratives.
- Baby Shooter (guest): incarcerated; describes injuries (fractured rib, shoulder popped out), being stabbed, and jail placement/conditions; claims he was in a module with gang factions and describes the assault setup.
- “Nutty,” “Moneybag Rose,” “Jay Hood,” “King Ice,” “Gumby,” “Sporty,” and others are referenced as participants/figures in related jail/LA street-podcast discussions, not as interviewed guests in the excerpt.
Key claims
- Baby Shooter says he was attacked after jail staff negligence/empty-cell oversight and that the assault was pre-arranged (phones ready, recording happening).
- The hosts argue Baby Shooter’s case and others’ cases are worsened by public statements, naming people, and recorded jail calls.
- Academics vs. Charlemagne is portrayed as a Roc Nation-linked dispute involving “Grand Chat Wizard” and alleged leaks/cooperation with law enforcement.
Notable examples
- The “knocked out 50+ East Coasters in county jail” claim about Jay Hood.
- The “phone recording already set up” detail from Baby Shooter’s account.
- The alleged Charlemagne/Grand Chat Wizard accusations and prior podcast beef involving Loon and academics.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOSetting the Scene
0:04 to 0:40
The hosts casually discuss their recent activities and the podcast's wildness.
“Starbucks refreshers concentrates are coming home.”
Discussing Recent Guests
0:40 to 3:56
The hosts analyze recent podcast guests and their performances.
“I'm actually talking about some of the shows you had up here, man.”
Dynamic of Recent Podcast Episode
3:56 to 9:48
Adam recounts the chaos of a recent podcast episode involving various guests.
“my mentality, as long as the Tuesday show is in a little bit of a state of chaos, was let's try out a couple different hosts.”
Addressing Controversial Topics
9:48 to 12:10
The conversation shifts to the implications of comments made by guests regarding legal issues.
“And then he throwing people names out there.”
Reflections on Media and Image
12:10 to 14:00
The hosts reflect on the impact of media representations and personal narratives in the podcasting world.
“goes into this sort of long-winded filibuster he's making it seem like he's the guy i'm the go-to guy which they say that is a leadership role.”
Analyzing Gangster Behavior in Court
14:00 to 16:00
Learn about the contrast between public personas and courtroom behavior of gangsters.
“So now, but see what he did, he eliminated all that defense because I was there at 9 o 'clock.”
Character References in Legal Trials
16:00 to 18:00
Discuss the importance of character references and portrayals in trials.
“Hefe, what did you mean when you said five bands will get you whacked.”
Baby Shooter's Legal Situation
18:00 to 20:00
Hear about Baby Shooter's recent legal troubles and outcomes.
“We need like wax specific advertisers to pull up to this platform.”
Charlamagne vs. Academics Rivalry
20:00 to 23:20
Explore the tensions between Charlamagne and Academics in hip-hop media.
“So they kind of was like, shit, man, did we leave him here and roll the dice?”
The Role of Grand Chat Wizard
23:20 to 26:30
Uncover the influence of Grand Chat Wizard in the ongoing conflict.
“But if that's true, that could fill in a lot of gaps.”
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Tensions Escalating Between Allies
26:30 to 28:00
Understand the potential fallout as tensions rise between allies in hip-hop.
“Charlamagne goes to all kinds of random ass podcasts.”
Tensions Between Charlemagne and Ack
28:00 to 29:40
The hosts discuss the growing tension between Charlemagne and Ack, speculating on the potential fallout.
“It's going to get nasty because over the years, there's no doubt that people are fed, act information, act knows certain things.”
Weight Loss and Health Trends
29:40 to 31:10
The conversation shifts to Ack's recent weight loss and the use of weight loss drugs like Ozempic.
“But again, man, you know, I don't know, man.”
Roc Nation's Strategy Against Ack
31:10 to 32:50
Discussion about Roc Nation's potential tactics against Ack and the implications of their legal strategies.
“Once they hobble Grand Chat Wizard, the Roc Nation missiles would become pointed directly towards North Dakota.”
Jay-Z's Influence in Hip-Hop
32:50 to 34:30
The hosts explore Jay-Z's role and influence in hip-hop culture and his relationship with the media.
“It's, oh, I'm combing my hair for five days with Beyonce.”
Academics' Impact on Artists
34:30 to 36:20
Discussion on how Academics' narratives affect artists like Tory Lanez and Meg Thee Stallion.
“But it is idea to say we're going to go to Meg Thee Stallion's trial with Tory Lanez because we're part of this, this, that, that.”
Jay-Z's Response to Criticism
36:20 to 37:50
The hosts analyze Jay-Z's responses to criticism and his handling of public perception.
Recent Developments in Hip-Hop
37:50 to 39:40
They discuss recent developments in hip-hop and how they relate to Jay-Z and other major figures.
“But the overall like consensus about him amongst like hip hop circles that I see on Twitter a lot is that Jay-Z is OK, because there's a lot of anti-billionaire sentiment in general.”
Baby Shooter's Arrest and Injuries
41:40 to 42:01
Baby Shooter shares details about his arrest, injuries sustained, and the circumstances surrounding them.
“So what are the extent of your injuries right now?”
Getting Arrested and Jail Experience
42:01 to 44:43
Learn about the circumstances leading to the arrest and initial jail experience.
“I mean, it wasn't bleeding out because it's like the little needles.”
Life in Jail: The First Days
44:44 to 47:09
Discover what the first few days in jail were like and the dynamics of jail life.
“Well, you out there fucking on Stunna and all this little type shit, you know what I'm saying?”
Negligence and the Attack
47:10 to 49:16
Explore the negligence by jail staff that led to an attack in the cell.
The Setup: Rushed in the Cell
49:17 to 52:56
Understand how the attack was orchestrated and the conditions leading to it.
“So pretty much it was the sheriff's department's negligence to shut down the other two cells knowing they was empty.”
Aftermath and Reflections
52:57 to 56:00
Reflect on the aftermath of the attack and insights about gang dynamics.
“I'm like, so I've been right here for a little day.”
Discussion on Street Smarts and Risks
56:00 to 57:46
Learn about the importance of street awareness and the risks of being in the hood.
“Now, every time, and I know you be trying to figure out how I know, I did an eagle and you about to go somewhere, I feel you shouldn't be what I do.”
Analyzing Violations and Consequences
57:46 to 1:01:05
Understand the implications of actions leading to violence within gang dynamics.
“Today, I jumped up the day early this morning.”
The Dangers of Public Discussion
1:01:05 to 1:04:26
Explore how public statements can escalate tensions and lead to dangerous situations.
“yeah i'm here i'm shit where was he at we don't know yeah you know i don't i just got here it's people here that got the keys to the rope or whatever it may be.”
Surviving Jail: A Personal Account
1:04:26 to 1:10:00
Hear a firsthand account of the dynamics and threats faced in jail environments.
“The homies on the other side, like, after the shit happened, Like Niggas like Take him where his homies was at Take him where his homies at So they like So where'd you end up at?”
Questioning the Situation in Jail
1:10:00 to 1:11:11
Discussion about the implications of Shooter being questioned in jail and the risks involved.
“No, I think, let me tell you what they showed their hand.”
Gang Dynamics and Teasing Rivalries
1:11:11 to 1:11:58
Exploration of gang rivalries, including Tee Grizzly's involvement and the implications for the speaker.
“So, it could have been, now, like four extras.”
The J Money Incident and Its Fallout
1:11:58 to 1:13:41
A recount of the J Money situation and how it led to personal consequences and misunderstandings.
“The shit they put on the internet, it's what they did to catch their attention.”
Police Involvement and Informants
1:13:41 to 1:15:52
Discussion about an informant's actions and how they affected the speaker and his cousin.
Medical Treatment and Cover-Up
1:15:52 to 1:18:11
Detailing the response from jail authorities regarding injuries and the lack of investigation.
“you kept playing sleep when they was running your homies in Wayside.”
The Impact of Social Media on Jail Dynamics
1:18:11 to 1:20:12
Analyzing how social media and public knowledge influence interactions in jail.
“Even when I waited, the homies like, I mean, you solid ass nigga, cause my shit hurt like a motherfucker ain't got no pain pills.”
Navigating Prison Life and Safety
1:20:12 to 1:24:00
Insights into the complexities of maintaining safety and reputation in prison life.
“and shit was kind of coming out, but they're not paying attention to it.”
Understanding the Prison Hierarchy and Clout Chasing
1:24:00 to 1:32:54
Insights into prison dynamics and the motivations behind violent acts.
“I done been in situations where I done walked in and some shit and they didn't let it happen.”
The Reaction to the Incident and Internet Speculation
1:32:54 to 1:35:34
Discussion on the public's perception and speculation surrounding the attack.
“Your cousin said, yeah, he's super bunk for that.”
The Reality of Violence in Prison
1:35:34 to 1:38:07
An exploration of the brutal realities of life in prison and its impact on inmates.
“No, but I'm just saying like, you know, You look at Flacco, you look at Ross or whatever, what's more important, getting the facts right or making an entertaining video with a good title that's going to get some views?”
Wild Conversations About PCP and Jail Experiences
1:38:07 to 1:40:34
The hosts discuss the effects of PCP and share wild stories from jail.
“It's a little bit like weed, but then it makes you wild the fuck out.”
Surviving Jail: Clout and Reputation
1:40:34 to 1:44:41
A conversation on how surviving tough situations in jail impacts reputation.
“They didn't hear some of this story partially from what you told me and I put it up.”
Community Reactions and Consequences
1:44:41 to 1:52:01
Discussions on community reactions to statements made by inmates and the impact on their image.
“Ant, bro, I swear to God, Ant used to be a real stand-up.”
Addressing Gang Politics Among Rappers
1:52:01 to 1:52:38
Learn about the dynamics of gang politics as discussed by the hosts.
“I wouldn't really do that unless they had already had a combo.”
Ray J and Sauce Walker's Streaming Drama
1:52:39 to 1:55:26
Discover the unfolding drama between Ray J and Sauce Walker during a live stream.
“um Ray J and Sauce were streaming I talked to Sauce Walker this morning yeah I talked to Ray J the night before and Sauce Walker has since put up things with him and Ray J.”
AB's Influence and Criminal Allegations
1:55:27 to 1:58:04
Explore AB's involvement in street culture and the associated legal troubles.
“And that's where Ray J, right, kind of forgot because when he's in streaming mode, he running content.”
The Poo Shiesty Case and Tape Evidence
1:58:05 to 2:03:22
Discuss the implications of the evidence in the Poo Shiesty case and its consequences.
“The dice game with, what's the nigga with the beard?”
Big 30 and Gang Affiliations
2:03:23 to 2:05:26
Examine Big 30's gang affiliations and the discussions surrounding his character.
“It's just what Gucci Mane is saying, right?”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00This episode is brought to you by Starbucks. That is fire. Whoa, that's good. This might be the drink of the summer. Okay, I like this one too. I'm rocking with it. Okay. Try it for yourself. Starbucks refreshers concentrates are coming home. Find them in the coffee aisle and make it yours. We're actually left? We're left. We're left today. Almost forgot, bro. What? Man, you know, I've been at the house fertilizing the grass. We need the topics. You know, running around, messing with the power washer. Oh, you're just being a handyman today. Yeah, man. I'm like, I said, oh, man, it's Thursday. You been having no jumper been so wild.
0:43It ain't too many times. I'm actually talking about some of the shows you had up here, man. You got the rabbit guy. That was a good find. Yeah, I told him. I talked to him the other day. I said, listen, man, you got to loosen up and talk. Yeah. We need that. Close the trunk. We need that bullshit going on. He's a really cool guy, nice guy, but yeah, he got to figure out where he fits in podcast-wise a little bit more. But I like him. He has the perfect controversy. Just being a black outsider? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But guess what? He not really a black sekin, though. Why are we? We should only be live for members.
1:24Fucking Nathan. You change it right now? or? Yeah. He's not really a Blacksican. He's from a Mexican gang, but Blacksicans really act like cholos. But he don't, he acts like a regular Black. He acts like a regular Black, because I had no idea. Let's make sure this ain't him. Shoot. Yo.
1:50You said, why you f***ing with that? I get troll calls every day. I get trolled. I get at least 30 of them a day. Yo, Wack, why you f***ing with the... I don't want to say the word. Shout out to the LGBTQ community. No, shout out to them. They're awesome people. Some of them got fire bussy. Oh, how do you know? I just hear great things. Yeah, that's crazy. You're having them conversations. But yeah, so he ain't... You know, he's a little different. He's the first one that I saw that like you couldn't tell. You can't tell he... Wait, who? Rap, you can't tell. You know what I'm saying? He still act like a normal black dude.
2:33But I think if he loosens up and just lets his personality just be him. Yeah, yeah. He got a lot of support. A lot of people like the throwing of things in the trunk and all that. That's well appreciated by a lot of people. I told him he got a money-making play in there too as well. What? Think about it. We laugh. When you get to a point where you don't mind a dude making fun of you, right? And you got a light. You got a red light. So can you imagine up-and-coming people, whether you're a rapper, you're an artist, or whatever you may be, you got some merch, you're promoting a reality show, right?
3:14Open the trunk. He closes the trunk on the BS. Imagine if he starts to open the trunk on promo. Well, he already is doing hella promo. No, when he opened that trunk. No, you haven't seen it. He does have like a, damn, that shit ain't bad or something that's positive. He needs to do one where you got the rusty hood, the trunk open it with the squeaky noise, and then boom, whatever it is a person want to market and promote. People will pay for that. Yeah, he has his rates at the end of every episode, which that might take some of the magic out of it if he's doing too much promo. I haven't really seen too much of it.
3:49Yeah, but other than that, man, you had a wild tape. I'm like, you look like you had the nutty blocks, the East Coases. So you explain the dynamic to me because, okay, I just want to explain on Tuesday, my mentality, as long as the Tuesday show is in a little bit of a state of chaos, was let's try out a couple different hosts. Yeah. So we try out Rich Rabbit, and we were going to have Rios, who used to be part of Punz Network, who now is kind of solo dolo. He was going to be on it. Something came up that he had to take care of. So at the last minute or last couple hours, we had to find Nutty, who previously fought King Pill, who's a cool guy.
4:26He's from Sacramento. And Nutty was late. So we start the podcast without Nutty. Nutty walks in. And then soon after, boom, we get Moneybag Rose and a couple other dudes. And I didn't think that there was anything weird about that. And I've seen a few comments saying, like, damn, Adam putting Jay Hood in a trick bag by bringing some of these dudes around, which I'm thinking, what the hell does that mean? I don't think what they were saying was because Moneybags from East Coast, the other brother, what's his name? Was it Ice or something like that? King Ice, I think. King Ice. He's from East Coast.
5:06And actually, you know, the thing with Jay Hood, one of the major booms of Jay Hood's reputation is he knocked out 50 plus East Coasters in the county jail. So that's who his Stevenson Village Carson Crip set beefs with? Yeah, because the 190s are down there. Okay. Right? Right. So, but, you know, J. Hood didn't been around. People know him. He didn't had it. He didn't did whatever he did and whatever. And a lot of people either respect him or they just don't like him. But still, out of respect, it's cool. But I believe, you know, when you're gelling with somebody, you'd have been through it with them.
5:52Right. You know, you guys usually find eventually some peace to where you guys coexist. But as you see, the dude Ice, he addressed Anne Hefe. and what he said was real. Listen, man, look, if I got a homeboy that come in and he hit over here and y 'all know that we upstairs or wherever, downstairs, whatever it may be and y 'all choose to max him out and just not give him his fair ones or whatever, y 'all max him out and take shit from him, right? Yeah, at that point in time it ain't the approach that Hefe's taking is, well oh, that happened to him and he didn't get out. About Shooter? About Shooter, right?
6:37We part of the gangster car. Gangster car is supposed to get off. That's what some of those dudes were saying to me. He's a neighborhood. Ice is from NAC. So his side, he's on the side, he's on the side, the doer side. He's saying the gangster car was supposed to get off on the NAC car. I'm telling you because if it would have been vice versa, the hooster car would have got off on the gangster car because they want to send a message that y 'all not just finna do that to all people when they land, especially when some of y 'all people up there with us. So when he said that, and hefe responds, oh, man, you saying this, this, this, that, and the other, but you sitting there with Jay Hood.
7:20And Jay Hood, right, proclaims to have done this, done this to East Coast. But see, Ant, and I'm noticing, I see why him and Sporty can't get along. Because they don't receive structured positive criticism. Gumby approached Ant in a respectful way and told him, bro, you're doing too much talking for the type of case you have. When you say approached him, you mean like made a YouTube video? Made a YouTube video. And you're doing too much talking for the type of case you have. You got a gang-related unalignment. and you constantly on the phone saying you in the middle of or you part of or you the one to go to for this, this, that, and the other.
8:03And he's like, little bro, he's like, look, you can't be Channel 7 News. I fought your type of case, which he has, right? And F.A. don't hear that. He says, yeah, well, Gumby, you know, you stabbed somebody in front of the police. And killed them. You was talking and this, this, yeah, but see, Gumby ain't fighting a murder right now. Right. Whatever Gumby did, he beat his murder. Right. Right? He's home free. So he's telling you from experience, he might have made the mistake. You know what I mean? This is not what you want to say. Anytime somebody points out to N.F.A. what you're doing, right, instead of him hearing it, he attacks him.
8:46I guarantee you this. Mark my words. when it comes time for his trial, everything that he has said on that phone will be in his trial documents. The DA, listen, if the DA, if the sheriffs went and pulled Baby Shooter out, he was in Wayside. When they were looking for him, he was in Wayside already. When they pulled him out and pressed play on that damn recording, hey, is this you, this, this, this, that, and other? if they have identified who that is, right? They have definitely identified what Aunt Hefe's been talking about and they have delivered that to his district attorney. Character. Bro, you supposed to be playing gospel guy right now.
9:33You ain't part of nothing. Man, I was up there getting toilet paper. Yeah, I grew up over there, but I ain't had nothing to do with what them guys is doing. I'm just, this is where I live at. So you still saying you patrolling, you going to, you talking, you refereeing. And then he throwing people names out there. He did a whole clip and named some dude from Harlem that we didn't know. But was talking about his case? Talking about who was involved. Oh, with the shooter. Yeah. Okay, okay. Right now you got shooters attorney, attorney Jasmine on there, given a roll call of criminal penal code violations of what happened to shooter and said, guys, it's probably not smart that you are identifying yourself in your gang and saying you did it for this reason and these reasons, because they don't even need him because you have it recording where you have identified yourself and what you've done and what you're doing and who you're doing it to.
10:34now it was one dude put himself out there that's some loose cannon ass shit right it's one dude put himself out to out there and F.A. the other dude from Harlem he threw him straight under the bus that's crazy okay and F.A. I'm a big fan of him hope to have him back on the podcast once he inevitably beats this case but from me talking to everybody it seems like it's almost universal amongst people in the L.A. street podcasting scene that number one and jeff is saying way too much about his own case wait and number two that and jeff is saying too much about other people's shit meaning the shooter case in particular a lot of i mean and i'm gonna be real with you is like i've seen that on the podcast with him over and over that someone would have a criticism of him and it would be something as simple as like yo and like you shouldn't be eating on the podcast like dope boy said that and i mean i'm gonna be real with you like where'd he go with that almost but almost everybody agrees that you shouldn't be eating on a podcast if you have to eat on the podcast maybe like you know move the mic away when you're chewing be mindful about it whatever and like kind of just launches into this like multi-minute long rant explaining why actually shut the f**k up you know I'm you know like he and it's not like a lot of like points being made necessarily it's just basically like y 'all ain't gonna tell me what to do and i feel like everybody who watches the no jumper show pretty much knows what i'm talking about and that being said you know that's that's part of who he is or whatever that he's kind of hard-headed or whatever but it feels like when i watch the youtube clips of him excusing himself for speaking on shooter shit speaking on his own case or whatever he kind of goes into this sort of long-winded filibuster he's making it seem like he's the guy i'm the go-to guy which they say that is a leadership role.
12:27They're already saying it's a group of guys who did this to this guy. And then they're saying you sent the guy to go take some money out of his vehicle, right? This is what they're saying. You ain't supposed to be in any way trying to make it seem like you're that guy. Right. Hell no. No, but he didn't do so much, bro. Since he's been in that jail, he put himself at the murder scene. He put himself there. I got there at 9 o 'clock. Those guys were at 6. When they was in an altercation with them, I was buying toilet paper. And that detail right there is what multiple dudes who came with Nutty, like Rose, were really emphasizing to me is like, it is crazy to say those dudes were there from 6 o 'clock on.
13:17I got there at 9, et cetera. which, I mean, on one hand, there's video from the parking lot, so it's probably not really doing that much, but you're definitely removing your ability to say, that's not me. Listen, let me tell you something. Just because they're video, right? When you got a good legal team, they're going to attack everything the DA comes with. Okay, when's the last time that system been serviced? How do we know that that system's not delayed? Okay, it's the date. I've seen people beat shit, and you got cameras, Like, time zone has changed and you need to go back on the cameras and change the time zone, right?
13:55The time's off. So because the time's off, well, we got reason to believe it may actually not be accurate. So now, but see what he did, he eliminated all that defense because I was there at 9 o 'clock. Yeah. He put himself, like, bro. But I will say this, Adam, guys like you, guys like me, the camera's the camera we we don't give a damn if it's on or off sometimes when people get on stage they like they stop thinking yeah well i mean i think ant got used to living his life on youtube you know and just making videos about whatever you want to talk about i was just watching the video of uh foolio's killers getting sentenced and you know these are dudes who are running around acting gangsters making drill songs blah blah blah and then when it comes time for them to get sentenced they all talking like you know good little choir boys and just acting like they would never hurt a fly and i'm so sorry and jesus told me the blah blah blah and it's just like damn like these dudes did the most gangster crash out shit you could ever think of just to end up in a position where they're basically acting like the biggest bitch you could ever act like in front of this judge not them acting like a biggest bitch they're acting who they really are.
15:10I mean, I think they're acting. I got some real homies that's fried. But they might get to prison and start acting like gangsters again, but at least in this moment when they're trying to get a little bit of grace from the judge, they'll act like the biggest hoe alive. Now, if Aunt Jefe is actually found guilty of what he's being charged with, chances are he's going to be standing in front of the judge portraying a fake version of himself in which he asks for forgiveness and talks about some shit, whatever, because it just doesn't behoove you in any way to act like you're a gang member or act like you're on some street shit when you're being charged with this shit.
15:44Adam, they're going, listen, mark my words. When this trial comes, there's going to be a whole day or two of character statements. Right. They're going to, because remember, they're saying, and Hefe is the shot caller. He's the ringleader. They're going to say, Mr. Hefe, what did you mean when you said five bands will get you whacked. That too? Just kidding. That's a song. That's just art. What do you mean by when you said on the county jail phone, shooter should have kept it G-A-N-G-S-T-A? He spelled it out? Then maybe we would have moved. What do you mean? So you are part of. What do you mean right here when you said you went down a tier to go check out what was going on and you approached one of the guys?
16:35He named the dude's name, set weed from, crazy. I was like, damn, I didn't even know dude was involved. Right? They're listening. Right. You know, now, you know, if he felt like it's no big deal where we come from, anything added to an open situation, it's a big deal. Right? And he's painting himself as that guy. You don't want to be that guy right now, even if you are. Right. You want character reference letters. You can call in your auntie. That pastor, you still cool? I need a character reference letter. Let him know I was down there, you know, helping the church. Whether I was or not, I got something for his pot.
17:17You want these type of things coming in. You know what I'm saying? You don't want to be on there seeming like you motherfucking. You don't want to, like, give them sworn testimony, basically, that you're a f***ing gang member and that you're capable of all this kind of shit. You the man. Yo, shout out to Ricardo J. Bravo. He said, Adam, how do you advertise on your show? Adam at, or actually, josh at nojumber.com, probably the best email that you could hit. Yeah, tell him you want to do it on the Adam and Wax show because he takes all the ad to the other shows, to his indie shows. Indie? Yeah, the independent shows.
17:53This is the mainstream show and everything else is indie? Well, whenever it's your one-on-one. Okay. Yeah. We need like wax specific advertisers to pull up to this platform. That's what we need. Yeah. That's what we need. Get some like diaper competitors or something. I don't know. Man, that diaper shit been giving me a headache all week. I can only imagine. You know, when you end something, but you're new to it and you got to really figure it out. And I'm not one of those dudes that just say, hey, get it done. I'll be wanting to know what's going on. So I'm learning what's going on. So when I'm faced with it again, I understand it.
18:30a little easier, but I think I've got a couple more documents I got to sign. I'll be leery about signing them. I shouldn't have mentioned diapers. I'll be leery about signing them. Warehousing. That's what I've been doing the last couple days, for real. Visiting warehouses and all kind of dumb shit. I'm not going to dig any deeper into the baby shooter thing because people might have figured out already that we do have baby shooters showing up at some point. Yeah, he's probably being en route to us today. Alright, cool. Yeah, man, you know he when he called he called me said uh cool all right he called me and he says uh hey man uh whack they pulled me out the shit that went viral i said okay well he said i ain't tell him nothing but they listening to it they know my voice they you know they they do just saying their names and all this type of shit, right?
19:25He said, listen, call your attorney, see if your attorneys can put a call in. Right? Because he had about 48, 50 days. Okay. They got him out just because of this. So they actually got him out. They helped. Attorney got to pressing. Attorney got to pressing and pressing and pressing and pressing. And they know he ain't in there going to court. He ain't fighting the case. He got some punk time. Yeah. And this shit is going high profile. Turner's like, well, you know, we're hearing things and we don't know exactly what's going on. But if something is to happen to him. So they didn't heard them tapes and they hear it all.
20:01And have a content, things like that. So they kind of was like, shit, man, did we leave him here and roll the dice? I kicked it. Get this mother up out of here. He already on probation and parole, whatever he on. He's not here on a new beef. He got some punk time because he was supposed to do a quick turnaround and let him go. We knew that. He's already been sentenced and all that, right? He was only there because he forgot to file his paperwork to run everything concurrent while he was there. And we knew. I said, let's see. We are knowing the next three to five days. And when I seen the FaceTime call from his phone, I knew he was home.
20:41Yeah, no, it's crazy. But I'm glad he's back. I'm looking forward to hearing about how this all went from his perspective. Oh, yeah. We got some questions. Oh, yeah, yeah. We definitely got some questions. Okay, so are you keeping up on the academics versus Charlamagne beef? Because I feel like that's something that deserves our attention. The last maybe a week or something ago, one of the spies hit me. I didn't know who they was because I didn't know what was going on. They're like, yo, tell ACK we got all the information on Charlamagne and this situation, this situation, that situation. and when I called him and I sent him the screenshot of what the people sent me, he was kind of reserved about it.
21:26So I don't know. Who, Ack? Ack was reserved about it. I mean, okay, I think Ack has always considered Charlemagne to be his ally in the game, right? He's always felt like they had a good relationship. He looked at Charlemagne as like an elder statesman, somebody they respected, whatever. But then in recent memory, you know, ACT has kind of become much more clear-cut ops with Jay-Z and Rock Nation. Not that they've ever actually, you know, interacted, but clearly academics is bothered by the fact that Rock Nation is seemingly throwing their legal weight around to mess with people like himself. People like Grand Chat Wizard, who has basically been unmasked as a result of this whole investigation.
22:08not to mention the fact that Ak basically considers himself OVO and then you got Drake who's on the receiving end to some disses from Jay-Z and all this kind of shit so Charlamagne basically calls up Ak on some friendly shit and says basically like tells him that Grand Chat Wizard who is an Australian Asian man who is clearly like intimately involved with hip hop culture on the internet probably not so much in real life but this is one of act's closest confidants that he works with on everything grand chat wizard basically runs the academics tv social media accounts he runs clipping campaigns for all kinds of artists and shit he uh basically it's just like him and act work together on all kinds of stuff allegedly grand chat wizard talks to drake all the time whatever you know when i tell you shit i give it to you so you can read it when you're done okay that's what those two tap them hey dude tap that shit i don't know what he's talking about me and charlamagne always been good this is spy number one new number i see academics going in on charlamagne i have information on charlamagne if he wants it you say what info they say ass play amber diamond from wild and out he would pay her bands to shove things in there asking him about the corn the condo and fort lee he still hasn't stopped cheating on his wife and he was about to be exposed until he paid um uh his former bodyguard wax charlotte screwed him over because wax was f***ing his side chick whoa that's whoa that's crazy because you remember wax no no big ass bodyguard but people have always wondered what happened and they the narrative that they had was basically like charlamagne wasn't paying Wax good enough or Wax was getting a little too uppity.
24:03But if that's true, that could fill in a lot of gaps. You see, that's May 29th. See, people be wondering where I get shit from now. I sent it to Act because I didn't know when he sent it. I didn't know what he was talking about. So I just sent it to academics and I called him, but he was kind of reserved. I'm like, bro, what's going on? Why they, you know what, you know what I mean? And he really didn't say too much about it. So you, you're saying. Okay, but this is the thing. So Charlamagne basically the theory is that he's so intertwined with Jay-Z and Roc Nation that he's acting on their behalf.
24:37So Charlamagne calls academics at some point and basically tells them that Grand Chat Wizard is a snake, that he's cooperating with law enforcement against academics, that he stole money from academics, etc. And ACT basically deduces that this is a message that's being sent to him from Roc Nation. on the but they're using charlamagne as the intermediary and and act gets pissed off about it right away and i could be f***ing up details about this i don't think so but he he basically takes it as oh you fake as it would be like if you know if you came to me and said like hey yeah it would be like well i don't know i don't even want to try to think of like an example that like lines up with it but basically ak was offended at the idea that charlamagne would come to him and say hey there's all this up shit going on you're in a lot of danger you got to separate from this guy but also i'm not going to tell you anything about like how i know this or i'm not going to give you you just have to take my word for it and act on it and also in addition to that you have to consider the fact that academics despite being on on good terms with charlamagne or whatever.
25:48There's been a lot of little shit over the years. Remember Loon? Yep. Charlamagne signs Loon to his podcast network and the first thing that Charlamagne does is bring Loon on Brilliant Idiots and he spends two hours talking shit about academics. And then basically makes that his whole campaign to get on in the game is Loon just shitting on Ack. And then also on top of that, Ack did the podcast for Spotify for a few years. Yeah, two years. He still does podcasts but somehow Charlamagne never made his way over to Ack's studio to do an episode which you would think Act doing podcasts for like four or five years would be pretty logical for him to fuck him.
26:23He never sat down with Act? He never did. And that's kind of weird. Act got to keep it real. He don't fuck with it. I mean, because Charlamagne goes on Vlad. They patched up their beef. Yeah. Now Charlamagne will go on Vlad. Charlamagne goes to all kinds of random ass podcasts. Not that he's like doing a ton of random podcasts, but for somebody like Act is like biggest in the game. Why would you not do that? So now the academics and Charlamagne beef is like, it's kind of right there ready to pop off. Ak has said like a few things that are sort of dismissive about Ak or about Charlamagne where he basically feels like Charlamagne is fake and just reiterating talking points for Roc Nation.
26:58But really, Grand, aka Grand Chat Wizard, is the one who's really used this as an opportunity to start heaping shit upon Charlamagne, bringing up his old rape case, bringing up whatever kind of negative shit they possibly can about him. and basically it's the kind of situation where like I could tell Grand yo chill don't go in on Charlamagne that's my ally but he's not he's apparently let the dog off the leash and then meanwhile this dude Grand is dealing with crazy lawsuits and you know they're trying to like basically put criminal charges on them and everything like that like the elder statesmen of hip hop who feel like the machine that there are accounts that are maliciously going against them are basically fighting back in the form of doing legal hijinks to go at Grand Chatwizard, which is, you know, they already exposed who he is.
27:49He didn't want people to know that he was a chubby Asian guy from Australia or whatever. And I don't know. It's just getting crazy out there. I'll tell you this. When Act decides to say, screw it, it's up, it's going to get nasty. Yeah, we've seen this. It's going to get nasty because over the years, there's no doubt that people are fed, act information, act knows certain things. But if he always looked at Charlemagne as an ally and a friend, now he's getting a little leery of him. I think it would take Charlemagne to just come out right now and do some radical shit. Yeah. then he'll it's his home but like Charlemagne's been like dropping the breadcrumbs suggesting that this is that he has all this shit that he can weaponize against Ack and everything and it just hasn't like fully launched into a war now I don't think like Charlemagne's not gonna play the war the way that Ack is he's not gonna sit there on brilliant idiots and just trash Ack or whatever but Ack will run content for hours and hours and hours about Charlemagne and really negatively impact his brand and his reputation in a way that as big as Charlemagne is, he won't be able to necessarily handle.
29:17We've kind of seen this before. And I'm not saying that Axe can be able to destroy Charlemagne's career, but I do think that, I mean, listen, if Academics runs interviews with people involved in that case from back in the day with Charlemagne, which I don't think he's above that. I think that's probably. That's probably like exactly what he's thinking. That's going to happen. That's his nuclear code. That's going to definitely happen. But again, man, you know, I don't know, man. Acts in a pretty positive space. Yeah. Got some weight loss going on. Right. That good redda. You know what? Huh? That's the GLP-1, that clavicular claims that he sold act that helped him lose all that weight.
30:02Oh, Claf said he? Nah. That's what Clav said. I don't know if Clav was trolling, but I mean, I personally am 100 % convinced. Red is basically like, you know, Ozempic. Red is like the futuristic new version of Ozempic that apparently like allows you to keep more muscle. It has some other good like features, et cetera. But it's basically like, you know, one of these hardcore weight loss drugs. Gotcha. But I've heard nothing but great things. People love it. He dropped some weight. No, he lost like 150 pounds. It's actually insane. He probably just put 20 years onto his life. Damn. Yeah. I don't know.
30:36Lost that much weight? Yeah. Should we call him? Should we see if he picks up? Let's see. You know what we calling. It's some messy shit going on. Exactly. I wonder what Ack is doing. Oh, wait. He's on vacation, maybe? I don't know if he's still on vacation. Maybe that's why this is not dialing yet. I'm sorry. The person you were - Hmm. Interesting. Okay. But yeah, he's on vacation, so that makes sense that it would be turned off. But I don't know. That's a wild one that I've been observing. I feel like Flacco's probably next. Once they hobble Grand Chat Wizard, the Roc Nation missiles would become pointed directly towards North Dakota.
31:19And I think Flacco and his campaigns are probably who they're looking at next. I'm personally glad that I never fully hopped on the Roc Nation bandwagon because I could easily see myself being. It's actually crazy to me that they haven't fully gone at Ack. I feel like that they would be suing Ack in some way, but maybe by just going at his closest comrade, that's the move. You got to be careful going at Ack. Ack's a big deal. Yeah, but if you're Jay-Z, right? I don't. They keep screaming Jay-Z. You're not scared of Jay-Z? No, I don't think. This Jay-Z's part of that company. I don't think Jay-Z is saying, act.
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31:59I think the company as a whole, because of whatever the overall situation is, is just doing what they doing, bro. But there's got to be somebody calling the shots when it comes to taking on the biggest voice in the culture, when it comes to the media. And I will tell you that I know people who I speak to who are extremely knowledgeable about how Jay-Z moves, and they say that the whole idea that Jay-Z is too big and he's not in the trenches of what's going on with this, that, they say absolute bullshit. Jay-Z knows everything that people are saying about him. He knows everybody who he should and does consider an op in this business, and that the idea that he's just so famous and such a billionaire and he's off in the clouds and he can't pay attention to anything, It's, oh, I'm combing my hair for five days with Beyonce.
32:55Bullshit. Okay. He's in the trenches just like us. He just sits back and makes these power plays without having to hop on a mic and trash people like we do. Okay. Why does Rock Nation allegedly have an issue with that? Because of what and who? Because AC has spread the idea. Myself, I personally don't really agree with that. But the idea that Tory Lanez is innocent and that Meg the Stylian is a demon. Okay, now stop. That's an important part of it. Rock Nation was present at her, at the trial. She's their artist. Exactly. Yeah. This ain't got nothing to, bro, this is their artist. She's a high-profile client, right?
33:34I think Tory Lanez's father is the one to start pumping that. It's because of them, the witness changed the story. Or because of them, this, this, that, or the other, right? Yeah. Now, listen, if they're there to support and the DA is doing their job. Right. With squeezing the witness and persuading them to go another way with things, right? He can't go at the DA. Nobody's going to hear that. Right. So you go at Roc Nation. And because Jay-Z is the face of Roc Nation, Jay-Z did it. Right. Right. So now comes, well, we want to speak to academics because you're doing this, this, that, or another.
34:19It's never going to be just the company, the corporation, right? Their board members have made a decision to do this. It's going to be Jay-Z Sinem. Does he know what's going on? Of course he knows what's going on. But it is idea to say we're going to go to Meg Thee Stallion's trial with Tory Lanez because we're part of this, this, that, that. They went to support. Right. You went to Crip Max Court date. Right. You had nothing to do with whatever the hell was going on at those tables. I was just showing support. This is what I'm saying. So it's like I think they're making it a bigger situation than what it is when it comes to Jay-Z, Rock Nation, and academics.
35:08I think Rock Nation is moving. This is not his only company he's a part of. Okay. I think that they very much care about the fact that academics and Tory Lanez and everybody else that was involved in the anti-Meg campaign has clearly had like very real negative effects on her career. But you got to like if you want to scroll back a little bit, you can get to like the Meek Mill thing. I don't think Meek Mill's Rock Nation affiliated anymore, but I clearly had like an extremely negative effect on Meek Mill's career at a certain point, which Meek Mill even said that essentially like 90 % of his fan base went away as a result of Academics TV, which is insane.
35:47But either way - He said knock her for a lawsuit. But this is the most important thing is that academics, unlike almost everybody in hip-hop media doesn't kiss the ring when it comes to Jay-Z. So many rappers, industry people, etc. Even if they're not directly benefiting from Jay-Z, show him respect, would never go out of their way to push anti-Jay-Z narratives, etc. And I feel like that in particular is probably why they consider ACT to be an enemy because let's not a rapper it but it doesn't matter he's got a way bigger voice than any rapper when i'm this is what i'm saying almost those rappers they're rappers jay-z has things that could benefit them right i don't get what does jay-z have that could benefit act could he enhance him in something yeah probably maybe i mean if they had a relationship at some point let's say that they had ever done anything together then this would be a harder thing for act to do but they haven't right jay-z never reached out to assist and that's what i don't really get about somebody like jay-z who maybe now should be regretting this a little bit because he is clearly in a position where his pr is pretty bad over the last year or two but like why does someone like jay-z not reach out to the next generation of independent hip-hop media that have incredibly loud voices and you know he don't gotta do a no jumper interview he don't have to do an academic interview but he could have you know show any kind of support would really like stop the fact that it's so easy for someone like ak or me or vlad or whoever to participate in the negativity towards jay-z because we have no relationship never done anything for us i don't think he thinks you guys his voices are loud enough to affect his his mountaintop but the thing is is that the combined power of our voices is fairly influential and when he went to the what to the fans okay about what what what can you say about jay-z that will have a direct effect on him i think there's so much negativity that maybe you don't see because you're not i see it i see i see the accusations okay but we're not just talking about the sexual assault allegations or whatever Right.
38:16That he seems fine. But the overall like consensus about him amongst like hip hop circles that I see on Twitter a lot is that Jay-Z is OK, because there's a lot of anti-billionaire sentiment in general. So he gets a lot of that. He gets a lot of the like a billionaire give a damn amount of people that that's anti-billionaire. I think Jay-Z very much cares about what the prevailing opinion of him in hip-hop is. And I think that hip-hop, at least within certain segments of leftist hip-hop fans, being a billionaire is pretty bad. And just being an out-of-touch, clueless capitalist is pretty bad. And I think that Jay-Z has gotten by for so long in his career by basically saying, yo, I'm rich as fuck.
38:56Fuck y 'all, I don't care what you say, I'm rich as fuck. He don't even say that. That shit does not work like it used to. He doesn't say that. No, that is like the prevailing sentiment of that freestyle that he did. Listen. I don't even have to talk to y 'all because I'm so rich. And guess what? And that don't work like it used to. Guess what he did to hip hop? When he dropped that freestyle, he took over the algorithm. And I think was largely. Which means he could still do it. Was largely lampooned for it. No, listen. What I'm saying is he's showing when I want to go over there, I can go over there.
39:27I'm up here. Hey, which one of y 'all want to go before about the Super Bowl this year? But Jay-Z. You get what I'm saying? And being as good at, and that worked for a long time. It's still working. But being as good as he is at rapping did not change the fact that from a critical perspective, I think that freestyle was viewed as an L. No. It got a lot of attention, but it didn't get responses from any of the important people that he dissed. Drake didn't say a word. Nicki Minaj didn't say a word. Yeah, you got Oskino responding to you in interviews. Yeah, you got Dame Dash doing another interview.
40:01But as far as like the big name players that were supposed to react to that, it didn't happen. Because I think that Jay and Nicky both realize, and it's crazy to see Nicky show some restraint. But, you know, Drake is used to it. But I think both of them realized that by partaking in this, that it would be overall like more beneficial to Jay. And did you see that now he has an eight-part documentary series where he gets interviewed by Rick Rubin coming out? How do you know that? Twitter. Now, you don't understand that him doing that freestyle had nothing to do with the artist that he did coming back at him.
40:39It had everything to do with he know what his rollout is. What's come? You think he just did that eight part series? It's already been done. But doesn't it say a lot when the biggest rappers in the game like Drake and Nicki Minaj don't really consider you worthy of partaking in your album rollout? Or was it that those subliminal messages Jay-Z left in that song, right? kind of like, you know what? I'm going to leave that alone. Not particularly for Drake, but really for Nikki. Drake's who he is. But that Nikki side of things, I don't know. You know what I'm saying? She's still, we got to see what's going to happen with her.
41:15Right. Do you want to play with that? She's not exactly active in her career at this moment. I ain't counting Drake out because Drake's known he just got through dropping whatever he's dropping. You know, he's known to double back. Drake right now responding would seem like him stooping down, which is crazy to speak about Jay-Z in such a way. My boy. What's happening, man? Survivor. What's happening with you? How you feeling, dog? The man of the hour right now. Baby shooter in this bitch. What's happening with you? How you feeling, dog? I'm feeling good. So what are the extent of your injuries right now?
41:48What's me? My rib, my rib. That shit kind of fractured. And then my shoulder popped out of place and shit. So I'm just wearing a brace to get this motherfucker right. But you got stabbed too, right? Yeah, yeah. Where at? My shoulder right here and my ribs. Was it bad? Like bleeding out type shit? I mean, it wasn't bleeding out because it's like the little needles. I mean, the little shit they're using, like super big. Right. Wow. That shit hurt. Okay, so take us back. How did you get arrested in the first place? What were you doing? How did I get arrested? I had an old-ass case type shit I was supposed to serve four years for.
42:21You know what I'm saying? And then I'm discharging the firearm. and it was Lazy didn't file his paperwork in there okay so usually they caught the firearm so they made me plead to the firearm type shit because they couldn't prove I shot them this was before the serious case okay he was out on bail on it so when he caught this serious case he was already out on bail on that so you didn't have all your ducks in a row basically and so they pick you up while you're driving or something or they come to your crib nah I had to turn myself in I already knew I had to turn myself in yeah and so then they throw you in the county yeah and is it like Is it true that they put you in a neighborhood dorm?
42:57Module, yeah. Hell yeah. No, tell them why you know that, because how many people went in with you? Where they was from? It was all the homies with me. All the homies from Broadway, all gangsters and shit. Where they sent them? They sent them to 21. They sent me to 24. Really? And you think that they did this to put you in a bad situation? And the nigga actually, when I went in, he was a young little CO or a sheriff. He like Hey Robby seen you all over the internet You don't want to check celebrity I mean you gonna go to high power and shit Like where them niggas be in one cell and shit So that's PC I mean it ain't PC It's just them niggas be shackled up In one cell and shit You don't ever go nowhere I'm like hell no I don't want to go right there I'm going GP Like you know what I'm saying You shacking them up Not in the cell Not in the cell But everywhere you go You gotta be shackled up Like a motherfucker Yeah yeah yeah A motherfucker that never see you So you're safer But basically it just sucks Hell yeah it's gonna be safe Cause you ain't gonna see nobody Yeah You can be by yourself Like for sure all the time.
43:53Okay. One of y 'all going there, y 'all ain't gonna have no choice. Yeah, yeah. Y 'all ain't gonna have no choice. Man, for real? We going straight. I know I'm going to. They ain't gonna give y 'all no choice. Like Chug, when he went, he said his ass, when he make his phone calls, he in a cage. Bring me to the neighborhood dorm. They don't give y 'all no choice. They're gonna be cool with me though, right? I mean, they might be, but you ain't gonna get no choice. You ain't gonna get no choice. I probably shouldn't find out. Okay. Alright, so you're saying, wait, like, rest in peace, But like if Nipsey Hussle got arrested before he passed, before he passed, he going to celebrity, they would have just forced that on him.
44:29I mean, he's like, blue face, blue face. They wouldn't let him. We tried to go to court to get him because he wanted to go to the main line. They was not because if something happened to him, it's a big liability. It's a liability. Which that's the card we played for him. That's what we did. Okay. So you knew that it was a choice between being shackled up in the celebrity section or going to the neighborhood dorm, or did you not know that that was a neighborhood dorm, main line GP period okay yeah and so they put you in there and what's the experience like tell me about walking up in this bitch and what you see and how it goes I'm bailing I'm bailing that motherfucker it's 2400 so I ain't really knowing what's going on cause before I left mind you I bailed out in February right so I bailed out in February it's the it's the all blood module but mind you the bloods and the gangsters they good in jail you know what I'm saying so I'm thinking whatever you feel me whatever happened happened you feel me but I'm thinking it's the all blood module though My cousin used to run it My cousin bad nose He from 6th News brand So I build up in there And then When I'm walking through I'm walking down the aisle Niggas ask me where I'm from And shit We from black My I belong against Niggas like Oh 40 crib 40 crib And all that You know what I'm saying So it's a gang of that going on 100 % shit like that And then I get to my I get to my cell They say 22 I think they say 22 Baker Yeah 22 Baker So I get to my cell They pop it open It was 240's in there And no No yeah a 40, 100 and a nigga from Main Street.
45:53And they're walking, I'm cooling. He like, where you from? One nigga say, where you from? The other nigga, like, that's true. They're like, they talk to me. Well, you out there fucking on Stunna and all this little type shit, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, yeah, yeah, all this type shit. They're like, are you sweet right there? The phone right here, bro. Whenever you feel free. I'm like, all right, it's good. So, uh, that's the first little night, because I'm going through process and that shit take all damn day, you feel me? I turn myself in at 10 in the morning Yeah you called me early I called you early Yeah I turned myself in I turned myself in Where they take me in Like at 10 in the morning I ain't get I ain't get to the bed Until like Once something in the morning You feel me That should take all day So I get there That's the first night The second day I think was Thursday No second day I went Thursday The second day is Friday So Friday I go in It was cool I mean I've been there the whole Friday It was cool And shit And I'm going on niggas talking regular shooting the shit saturday morning six in the morning when the police come in once they settle in and all that shit they run showers so when you run showers uh that's when shit go down you know i come out showers i know something kind of weird though because them niggas probably must talk to each other when i was sleeping something because i had a i had um that night before they before they run showers they give you new towels and new little shit that you know i'm saying so i i get the towel and everything i put it at the edge of the bed and when I get up I'm like let's say a friend of my showers that I ate uh it's a little nigga I hop on the phone call your girl he said call your girl hop on the phone I got a highlight you about something at the time I know the football but now I do so I say that to say when I look I'm like what my talent I don't know I'm gonna look down there you'll see my time and I don't see no tell you know whatever I bail out anyway I tell a homie I you ain't got no extra towel um my nigga my nigga infant space goes from 9-0 my f*** what a cool nigga you got a special you got an extra towel he like yeah yeah i got one for you so i go i go bail out i do whatever i go ahead and do my thing shower and all that little shit when i go back down it's another little it's a bigger nigga in my cell but that nigga smoking and doing this little thing them niggas be doing you know i'm saying spice shit they be on so he doing he doing anything in my sale so it's like two extra niggas i see in my cell right i ain't thinking nothing of it so they rocked when they rocked the door back and closed it they like hey who is cell eight who are so seven like there's nobody in there and all this type of so the police kind of holding up because they trying to see where cell seven and where seven eight or cell eight at you feel me they hitting rc09 i'm not knowing this so when they close it they're like okay whatever you know i'm saying they get on and then um so they get on they ask the that's in my cell already nigga defense anyway they like oh hey the police gone no yet police gone they get about the get the niggas get up they're like uh hey shoot you already know what time is regular two fades type shit i'm like yep it's good i'm crippled i get about go i pill out we go we finna go soon as we go go to lock up the niggas rush me oh get up on the niggas oh so you saying the cats in the other cell they was looking for was it yourself hey myself all of it in your cell.
49:12Yeah. Okay, when you use the bathroom they got a curtain on that motherfucker. You know what I'm saying? So the niggas that's, because it's for or to a cell so they don't see you using the bathroom taking the shit or taking the piss so it's a curtain right there so it's something behind the curtain it's something in the two bunks right there because they got that curtained off it's something in there you feel me it's something under the bunk you feel me I ain't seen none of these. So pretty much it was the sheriff's department's negligence to shut down the other two cells knowing they was empty.
49:39Because that's what I was saying I'm like That seems so inappropriate for them to be like, oh, these two dudes are missing from that cell, whatever. That just feels like a big lapse in judgment. When you watch prison shows, I know it's the county, but when you watch prison shows, it seems like somebody missing from their cell is a big deal. We are addressing this right now. Yeah, exactly. But see, when you see things like that, it leads you to believe that they're in on it. Exactly. And I don't doubt it. You know what I'm saying? Like come on bro I'm gonna tell you why Further on I'm gonna go into the little shit I'm gonna tell you why I feel They did They had something to do with it But For sure man Them niggas ain't stupid bro So This phone call you in Cause you the only one That can put a time frame on it How long was things going on If it got to the point To where We heard the phone call That we heard how long had things been did it just started was it been five minutes 15 minutes nah the phone they had the phone already said it had all that shit lined up you know i'm saying like for me when i'm coming in the cell they had they had it laid out like the red carpet like phone ready people on the phone recording already when i'm saying and now the iphone but like the actual phone yeah the real phone somebody's on the other side recording somebody on the other side recording they had it already laid out somebody already recording when i got in there you feel me that That shit was already set up.
51:10You feel me? So, yeah. So, when they said they head up shit, I mean, the two fags would go. They rushed me. Man. They go for my earrings. Man. They go for... They really... Okay, look. They let you bring the earrings in. I got the earrings in because I had all my jewelry on, right? Oh. Because I went to turn myself in by myself. So, I got my jewelry on and all that shit. They just let you wear it into the jail? I tell them my earrings will come out. I'm like, they permanently heavy, so they don't come out because I have some big ass flowers they like okay yeah don't come out so um i go so i go i go in with the business so they after my emery they want the earrings type shit and i give the earrings up they got me on the floor they snatched them bitches out that's why i got a cut right here this motherfucker really healing up and shit yeah they snatched them bitches out i'm on the floor and shit so i go after the nigga that got the shit i got my area i'm grabbing him i hit him like two times All of a sudden I don't feel shit I just know This motherfucker Not going no more You feel me I don't feel I don't feel It hit me But this motherfucker Not swimming My right Ain't going no more That motherfucker Slammed to the ground Or something Hell yeah I'm in the ground And all that shit You feel me So So it wasn't No other Let me get this right It wasn't No other gangsters Down there No other gangsters Down there whatsoever All our neighborhood I think it was A couple probably A couple Conflict Cripp niggas Down there But But nothing but Gangster Crips.
52:35I mean, nothing but neighborhoods in that motherfucker. No Gangster Crips. So you mentioned that you had sent word up to Aunt Hefe. Oh, yeah. Aunt Hefe, the niggas knew I was down there because Tank from H.A. Gangster, yeah, I guess he got word that I was down there. Tank from H.A. Gangster, he came down there. And he like, what's up, gang? You straight? I'm like, yeah, I'm straight. Like, oh, here, these niggas ain't know nothing. I'm like, so I've been right here for a little day. The niggas ain't said nothing. Like, I guess not. And then he insist on talking about me How my brother owe him$500 And all I guess he want me to pay it or something I'm like man my brother ain't tell me nothing about that shit Whatever he's like alright well I'm gonna get you up there Like you straight you don't need nothing I'm like nah I don't need nothing I'm like let's talk come up and be good you know what I'm saying I came in with a pocket full of money I'm sure they put it on my books type shit Meanwhile I'm gonna give you some little shit And I'm gonna give you toothpaste and shit you know what I'm saying I'm like alright that's cool Cause you know hygiene important I'm like alright cool He's like yeah I'm gonna grab some shit for my aunt From Young Ant And then He's speaking up in half a And I'm gonna grab a ship From Young Ant And then I'm gonna get you some shit And I'm gonna come back down here And then In a couple hours The next ship come She had you up there And I'm alright cool Never came back Never said shit Next ship So you You think they kinda like
53:54Sent words To Kinda like You know Let's see what he'll do Cause answer on narrative was because you didn't handle your business right or you refused to take the two fades, he felt like it was nothing to address. That ain't how I go anyway. But that's not what happened, right? Because you were down for the two fades. They rushed you and jumped you, right? I was going to take my two fades off the back. Look, so look, this is the whole point of it, right? When I got in the cell, it's three of them already in the cell when I get there. So if they wanted two fades Off the back They would've Gave me the two fades When I got in there They don't niggas ain't waiting A day and a half Shower time For their homies to get in there So you already thought That was a little weird When they mentioned that Come on As soon as they said it I knew it was a play bro As soon as they get up And line it up And they got the phone Set up You know what I'm saying Where it is It was all type of Little weird shit They got the little cane Ready you know what I'm saying I don't want to say too much But it's like They got shit ready bro You know what I'm saying Ten niggas literally You know what I'm saying like for two fades I was already here with three niggas I could have gave me three and were you and him having a cool before this like you have a relationship and shit yeah I mean like we ain't got no like close relationship but our hoods like real close you know what I'm saying yeah I know him for sure I know him and our hoods close too you know what I'm saying I know his family too I'm saying like so you didn't expect him to go bad on you that fast nah I ain't you know what I'm saying I ain't I left because when his case and shit was coming up niggas was asking me and niggas when I was talking and even when you was when you was on this top, the homies calling me like, you see what Wack on?
55:33You know, you against the script and the homies like, well, I'm like, man, Wack on the thing. All I said was this and you can attest to this because you know I'll be on you. I said, well, you say Wack don't be outside. He don't be on the block. He ain't a real member that be in the community and I just said, kids, this is what you get when you outside a real member in the gang community. You get caught up like this. This is a nasty situation he on, right? Hell yeah. Now, every time, and I know you be trying to figure out how I know, I did an eagle and you about to go somewhere, I feel you shouldn't be what I do.
56:19Let the nigga know. Get up on the nigga top. Quick. I be on him. Hey, what you doing? You just came home. You show you want to do that? You thinking about what you doing? Right? Hell yeah. I get on you. So it ain't like I ain't practicing what I'm preaching. I'm simply saying to the kids, hey listen you heard him tell y 'all, whack don't be outside in the ghetto like that every day. And I tell y 'all, no I don't. If I want to go to the ghetto, I go to the ghetto. You didn't call me, where you at? I'm in a 99 mile for where you at? I'm going to go where I want to go but do I just wake up and just hanging the hood.
56:59Hell no! Because I know it come with that. I didn't get me know how many homies I got just dead in 19, 22, 23, 24, and 99 percent of they time they in the set. I didn't get to be 49 years old being no damn fool. You get what I'm saying? And you even know I'll be on your bumper. You know what I'm saying? Because I know so I didn't say nothing disrespectful and I I started tripping when he jumped on that phone. I'm sure y 'all started, bro, what you doing? Not for real. You know, I didn't say nothing disrespectful. I'm just simply saying, hey, this is what you get. When your ass want to be in the hood, a real member all day, every day in the set.
57:44That kids don't do. That's just what's real. Today, I jumped up the day early this morning. The AC man came. I ran and had to do some duct work. I went and got me some fertilizer. You know, I had to fix a couple sprinklers. You know what I'm saying? Try my power washer. Listen, I'm getting ready for the 4th of July. We're talking about him getting stabbed. You know, you're talking about your sprinklers. No, what I'm saying is when they told him, you hear what Wax said, disrespectful, boom. So now my question to you is this. They feel you hollering and screaming on the phone is not justifiable.
58:25They even went as far as to say, right, if he a hollering and scream like that, they could have made him do some sexual shit. This is what they pumping. Ant said it. And he said this. He's saying that this is what he calling in. He allegedly calling in to some of your people. I don't know if he is, if he not. He ain't talking to my niggas. Right. So my thing is where I come from, even if it was a violation happening with the homie, because y 'all did that to the homie, it took something. See, right? We going to move anyway. We going to whoop your ass too when we catch you. When we get you up here with us, we going to deal with you too.
59:10If you guilty of what they say you guilty of. But I feel like he used every excuse not to move. What you getting My cousins came up See I'm not even looking at the nigga shit right I'm not even paying no attention You ain't heard it I ain't paying no mind But my cousin like Nigga like Cause my cousin felt like look Is he telling the truth cause he ain't He an ally you know what I'm saying I'm thinking like what's going on I'm like bro that nigga I don't know if nigga's telling him shit You know what I'm saying Or he believe in it or He going off what he hear It's gold y 'all violated him listen y 'all violated him 10 months like it's none of that okay so what okay no that's what happened okay so we ain't gonna trip okay but from Ant's perspective if this really went down like that isn't it kind of like a death mission for him to go against all these dudes on behalf of Shooter that's what that's what that's what he's supposed to do that's what come along with it but that's like I mean it's kind of easy to understand why a person would not want to put themselves in that position, right?
1:00:21Listen, man. Even if you say it's dishonorable. He ain't saying it like that, though. If I'm up there asleep, whack, what up? They just packed the homie out. What you mean? They took his shit, whooped the wolf, nigga was scared of the squad. They packed him out, though. Who? Whoever that group of people is, it's home. And whoever the dude is that we felt punked the game, we gonna deal with you, too. so and i did that deal after that's after that's after you know what i'm saying you're not you're not that's after you're not you're not supposed to he just and that did it to himself getting on the phone giving all them details if he would have just like not been on youtube discussing it okay and just another month in jail like anybody else exactly then it'd be easy to be like well yeah i'm here i'm shit where was he at we don't know yeah you know i don't i just got here it's people here that got the keys to the rope or whatever it may be.
1:01:16But he jumping on there saying he pushed up. He naming names. It's only one dude identified himself. He did that to himself. The other dude ain't named. We didn't even know. Dude from Harlem. He like, yeah, I'm going down there to check on it. And I ran into the dude, you know what I'm saying, who was one of the leaders of the whatever, whatever, whatever. And I'm sitting there telling myself, when you seen him, you supposed to get off. Off the bat. That's how it's supposed to go. And it ain't like baby shooter just to name me. No, you know to do. I mean, that's what come with this shit. Unfortunately, when you go in places like this, but you know how many times, bro, my program been smooth.
1:01:55I got everything I needed myself. I got a visit coming. I'm nine months to the house. I got a pay number job. And because the homie that went over here on the weight pile and had niggas weights and was tripping behind his bra, said what he said, got rushed, packed out, and we got to come out. And I know I'm going to catch about another six months to a year in the shoe. All my shit going to be packed up. And I'm going to be in a hole. That's just what come with it. Unfortunately, that's what come with it. Yeah. You can't pick and choose when you want to be involved in that. Straight up. If he got something to take, that's the cards to take.
1:02:37You took from the card. That's value you didn't took from the court. That's how it go. Me listening to Ant, I'm telling myself, damn, you giving play by play, but you've given every reason and excuse. See, what Money Back Rose was saying and what Ice was saying up here the other day? He was saying, look, screw all that. Ain't no investigation. They did this to the homie. Fuck what the homie didn't do. You got to go. but Ant is looking for reasons not to have to move Rose like cornered me and was like Adam you gotta understand how crazy it is that Ant Heffitt was talking about a shooter and didn't get his back in that situation he's like breaking it all down for me and like I've never seen him so passionate about anything now here's the thing it's crazy though now here's the thing and I gotta put it out there shooter
1:03:30we put a lot of weight on Ant Okay. Are you saying that when Ant got there he had the keys? Because. The keys of what? I'm pretty sure there's more gangsters there. Why they didn't move? Ant's one person. You're saying Ant's the shot caller. No. The way it's being. But I think he's doing it to himself because he's the one. He's the one on the thing. On the phone and on the YouTube. He's like the most high profile along with you. Yeah, so, you know, are we saying an aunt's making it seem that way? Let me go out here to see what's up. As if whatever he comes back with, the call going to be made.
1:04:16Right? I don't know. This is just what he's saying. Right? Why didn't the other gangsters move? I think he did like the closest gangsters to the shit. You know what I'm saying? The homies on the other side, like, after the shit happened, Like Niggas like Take him where his homies was at Take him where his homies at So they like So where'd you end up at? 2100 So what happened when you got there? As soon as I got there I went to the homie from Casey From 5-1 in trouble And I was like What's up with you? He seen a nigga Bleeding all that shit I'm like I'm like I told him what happened You know what I'm saying I already gave him the whole rundown Heck on a day home You finna slide over there Like hold on Cause they took me to the day room So I'm in the day room I'm on the phone Type shit I called you I called you I'm on the phone Popping Then he They slide over there Them niggas Locked in their cell They like What's up I packed up Y 'all got to get up On the home He like He told the homie He told the homie Straight up like I ain't gonna lie Was planning on Getting two Was planning on Getting two face He wouldn't get The earrings up You know what I'm saying See that's another violation So you pretty much saying Because he didn't get the earrings up the two fades out the window and we just robbed him.
1:05:35Why is that a violation? Because, listen, he from the Gangsta Card. Right? Gave him his fades and let him move around where they move around. So because you chose to rob him, you took something not just from Shooter. You took something of value from the Gangsta Card. Right. The Gangsta Card is supposed to be pressing we need them earrings back. it's up we need to marry what you did to him was one thing and y 'all took something not just from him from us because if it's there to be took we gonna that's us and they gonna go to war over that right now I don't know if it's a little different in there you know I ain't been to the county jail since 99 right I don't know if it's a little different in there I be hearing the blind dude talking about I never been to the county and I went to prison for a while all kind of dumb shit up or whatever right How long was you over there Before they sent you to Wayside Shit Like a day and a half And nobody had a problem with you Cause the audio is viral Right okay this is my question Is like They're f***ing with you Is it fair to say they're like torturing you I mean torture Sounds crazy but But how long does that go on for That shit like they ain't popping on the nigga for 30 minutes, but they fucking the nigga up for at least 30 minutes.
1:07:00Oh, okay. And that phone call is like kind of towards the end of that, I'm assuming? I mean, they probably only put out what they wanted to put out, like cut it and all that, but I'm sure they was recording the system for it. Because I can hear when I first come in, you know what I'm saying, when the first situation occurred, and then I can hear like shit cut through, you know what I'm saying? Ann says you start screaming for the guard, and you told the guard, I can't be in here they trying to kill me. The guard ain't nowhere near the guard ain't nowhere near where I'm at. If they was they would have hurt they would have hurt the whole thing.
1:07:31The guard's way somewhere else. So how did you get out? Yeah how did it come to an end? How did it come to an end? Because when they when they realize I ain't gonna lie when they I'm like they get up on a nigga when they finally start jigging their nigga up and all that I'm like look bro I'm good like y 'all got me bro you know what I'm saying? Surrender tactic quick like bro y 'all got me with the shot y 'all got the earrings bro y 'all got everything y 'all want I got me, bro. On the dead homie, like, I tell the older nigga, the older nigga, he came, he down on the appeal. He like, you gotta hit him in the neck.
1:07:59Like, ooh, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait. Yeah. The older nigga, he down on the appeal, he like. You hear this? I think you gotta hit him in the neck. You hear what he saying? You're saying that about him to you? No, the older nigga, he right there while it's happening. He like, you gotta hit him in the neck. Like, telling them to stab you in the neck. Yes, nigga, like, you gotta hit him in the neck. So he come down for the beat. Because I can see, listen, he said he came down from appeal. So that means he came down from the penitentiary. So you have a nigga that been in the penitentiary 20, 30 years, 25 years, right?
1:08:31He's totally out of touch with reality. All he knows is do it one way. Now, he don't understand these youngsters in here is clout chasing. In his mind, when you go there to the extent they going, you go there to kill. hurt badly. So it's funny because you got an old dude in the mix of a circus and he don't even know it. He's telling them, what y 'all doing? Hit him in the neck. You gotta hit him in the neck. He telling them like that. You lucky he didn't take the motherfucking... On everything. Nigga, when he said that, I'm like, nigga, I'm talking to OG, look, bro. I took my earring, bro. Y 'all niggas whoop my ass, bro.
1:09:12You know what I'm saying? Whatever. Y 'all got everything y 'all got, bro. Anything y 'all can get is my life. What y 'all gonna do with that? You feel me? Like, y 'all got me. you know what i'm saying like i know how to set defeat but y 'all got me bro what's y 'all want bro you know what i'm saying like i got me bro the boy with the viral moment what do you say what he say that like i'm like what's i gonna do i think 4.0 the 4.0 like uh say we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna end it so that's how i end though then he put his hand outside the bars like this, and he do this. When he do this, the bars pop.
1:09:47That's how we know with sheriff negligence. And the law officer seeing and seeing will definitely be addressing that. We got to holler at the L.A. Sheriff Department. You think that that's going to be visible on the cameras? No, I think, let me tell you what they showed their hand. When they pulled Shooter out and asked him, about the tape. They played it for you, right? Yeah. And at that point, we decided to play our hand and put a call in. Had the right people call in and say, hey, we got a high-profile guy in there. It's footage folding around of audio, and you guys are questioning him about it.
1:10:35And so what you guys are going to do? So next time something happens, and he don't make it out of there, you guys are going to acknowledge the fact because it's on record that you question him about it. Right? They ain't saying too much. Now, we know Shooter ain't in there fighting no case. He got 45, 60 days max. We know what they're going to do. Either they're going to, we took a risk, they're going to put him in a trick bag to get him really fucked up, or they're going to say, dude ain't worth this shit. Get him up out of here. and they kicked him out the next day. Kicked him out the next day.
1:11:13That's crazy. Kicked him out the next day. Kicked him out the next day. That's wild, man. You get what I'm saying? So, it could have been, now, like four extras. If a dude like four extras would have been there, he would have made them fight. Yeah, I would have got headers with all them niggas. For sure. He might would have ran him four or five times, but he was going to fight. I'm cool with that. Give me four or five headers. It's regular. Give me a break in between. You know what I'm saying? I'm straight. Did they explain to you immediately that, because like, okay, you're from gangsters, they're neighborhoods, that's a reason enough why you might have some phase, but did they make it perfectly clear to you, like, nah, this is about Tee Grizzly?
1:11:52Like, when did that get said? Did that get said at all? Tee Grizzly happened after me. The shit they put on the internet, it's what they did to catch their attention. They ain't say nothing about Grizz to me at all. I'm going to tell y 'all, You know I say something for y 'all, right? Okay. I say something for y 'all. Nobody know this, but my hood. Right? Let me show you something. So, remember the J Money situation? Yeah. So, J Money. J Money at one point said that that shit was Cap and you never robbed him. Who said that? J Money said that to me. He's like, I got to do an interview because motherfuckers is lying, saying that they robbed me, blah, blah, blah.
1:12:31And then he didn't show up for the interview. Oh, I was in jail for it. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know I don't know I was in there for that right so in the midst of that situation an individual gave the police his phone right knowing certain shit in there that individual gave the police his phone and said certain shit he wasn't supposed to say right wait slow down slow down I don't think Adam caught what you said you saying while this situation is going on an individual in there had a cell phone. No. In our case. In our case, right? You talking about before you got out the J Money case. J Money case.
1:13:16An individual, right? Gave the police his phone while they investigated. They went and got him first. Gave the police his phone, right? How they was able to ping all the rest of our phones. Gave the police his phone and then through that they got the rest of us, right? He gave the police his phone and he corroborated, right? So my cousin He can full track against That's the option I said right But that's my cousin so My cousin My cousin ended up getting the paperwork And taking it to his hood right So when he get to jail Niggas press him about it He say oh That wasn't me that's the nigga Shooter from Havalon he got the police his phone And he the one to corroborate with the people right He put all that shit and flipped it on me That's where the stabbing come in And I'm gonna show you right now watch this I'm gonna let us read it Oh you saying So they asked you about that When you was in there They asked me about it They said I'm like I'm like Everything that nigga said He the one did that That nigga gave the police his shit and everything But he from they car So they believe him Right So they never They never mentioned T.
1:14:30Grizzly Nothing They ain't say nothing They never said this from Grizz Nothing bro They said what happened with the situation where uh right for it right because they they packing that nigga they already hitting a couple times but when they when they start going in more right they say so hey hey cuz ain't you want ain't you want to work with the homie i'm like what you talking about they say the situation where oh you had to pull your phone and i'm like i'm like the nigga you talking about that's the who that's the who did that they're homies right they're like why daycare he from folktray gangster no that no my cousin he even folktray that's the nigga that that's the nigga that gave the paperwork over to them right he got a he took the paperwork to that hood and gave it over to them but these in jail so they don't know about it so when when it hit jail because they remanded me because he went came to court late he came in jail and they asked me hey what's up with that uh because uh touche said you um you know i'm saying you get the police to sit and corroborate and all that shit.
1:15:31He put shit off on me. So they not knowing the shit. They ain't saying nothing. They just believe in what he's saying. And again, they go for it. So I hit my cousin when I got out. Look, I'm going to let you read it. I'm going to let you read it out here so you can see why. And what was this Aunt Hefe was saying that he was saying something about you kept playing sleep when they was running your homies in Wayside. Did you hear that? No. Yeah where he was getting all this from I don't know what the f*** he's talking about I think I have to make shit up as he go bro To be honest with you bro I've heard that one before I think he really do I think he makes shit up as he go bro We know he make words up What the f*** he's talking about bro It's an alter ego thing So you telling me When you get to Wayside what it's in Supermax Where you going medium north I go to Supermax 700 flow Okay and nobody up there Had nothing to say Hell no Yo that shit was everywhere bro That clip was Was everywhere Nobody had nothing to say No way I say shit to say Shooter world is regular None of the gangster car Had no issues saying you had to run some phase You was in violation Hell no Even when I left them 30 minutes later, I'm with my homies.
1:16:57They take me right up with the homies. I'm taking you with the gangsters in the hooves. All right, cool. I'm right there thugging. The homies go over there and figure out the situation. All I didn't want to know is I rolled it up or not. You feel me? If I rolled it up, it's an issue. You feel me? They're trying to figure it out. But did they have to take you to medical or some shit to get sewn up and shit? Okay, they said this. You want to talk about what happened over there? I said I fell off the bunk. I fell off my rack. That's what happened. So they didn't make any attempt at trying to figure out who had done anything to you?
1:17:27Adam, they did this and opened the gate. I know, but that just seems indefensible that they wouldn't try to get you. Who's going to investigate? That they wouldn't do some kind of investigation. The people that knew what was going on? What kind of investigation? I know, but I'm just saying that's pretty damning, right? Like if they weren't at least pretending to try and figure it out. Well, no, see, the less, listen, the more documentation, the more risk they take. Right. If he's saying he fell off a bunk. They're just going to be like, oh, he fell off a bunk. It all started when they knew to other people what did they sell.
1:17:59But a stab wound is the kind of thing that nobody would ever get from falling off a bunk. What is a puncture? But I don't know. Did they do a cavity check on you? No, they ain't go all under my shirt. They just see my lip. My face was way too full of this. Oh, yeah, right bad. Okay. Yeah. Cavity check, Dennis. They're like, what happened? I'm like, I fell off my bunk type shit. They know what that means. Yeah, they know. Even when I waited, the homies like, I mean, you solid ass nigga, cause my shit hurt like a motherfucker ain't got no pain pills. And then I said, I'm awake two days. I'm awake a day and a half.
1:18:29Then I'm going to medical. Just saw they own - So you was in there with them a day and a half? No, before I went to medical? Yeah. Yeah, so I waited. I go with the homies. I thought you said they waved their hand and opened the door. No, no, I'm talking about when they already pushed me to another pod and all that. so soon as soon as they open the door they immediately pulled you out pull me out quickly that lets you know they lined him up we're gonna put him in here yeah get his business let him get his issue then we gonna take me to where he's supposed to be exactly so when they take me right there i tell the homies like i'm away like a day and a half to go to medical so they don't try to put two and two together and all this you feel me because they don't know about what's going on under my shirt you feel me i just do like and then i go to medical they like what happened i fell off the bunk like man we heard that plenty of times what happened like you're hearing it again like you know what i'm saying because you gotta like when shit like that happen if you roll it up or anything like that you gotta let them know why or not they're gonna put your ass back in there you know what i'm saying so i'm i'm not letting nigga know i ain't say shit and i ain't roll nothing up nigga they tell me take him where his homies at then where you from i'm against all right who was in against over here right across the street they take me right there when an osj come see us who came and saw you?
1:19:37Yeah. So where did they come see you? When I was in Wayside. When I was in Wayside. I was in Wayside for probably only like six hours. They came to see me. I was medical. Get my shit treated. And what did they say? What was their approach? Their approach was like, oh, what happened to you over there in CJ? What you mean? They're like, and CJ, what happened? We knew the situation. I'm like, I don't know nothing about nothing. What's he talking about? Tell him I fell off my bunk. They're like, nah, man. We got the audio. Like, we know what was going on. You know what I'm saying? They know what's going on, bro.
1:20:07This is audio, bro. There might have been a time back in the day in which there was the internet and shit was kind of coming out, but they're not paying attention to it. Those days are long over. They're fully included. Now, let me ask you a question. Because it's like big news. It's on all these Instagram accounts. Even if they don't go looking for it, the people who work at the jail are going to see it. I've had Barstow, California. I pull into the 76 gas station across from the pop-up. I go to pit stop. Yeah. Squad call pull up. I said, oh, shit. They see me walk in. They park right dead center.
1:20:46Put the lights on. So I wait for a minute. I call R &B. I said, look, the police outside. I don't know what's going on, but it don't look right. I come out. They jump out. They said, we just got through listening to you and Adam on the YouTube. Can we have a picture? So what I'm saying is these people are listening. Right? They're listening. And what Ed Heffley need to understand is OSJ or the people in that county jail heard that recording, which was where? On the Internet. Instagram, YouTube. You think the same people ain't hearing what he's saying and delivering that to the goddamn DA as his character and saying he's a part of this, that involved.
1:21:33This, that, and the other. This dude is crazy as hell. I gave him warning. After I gave him warning, look, they pulled Shooter out and questioned him about it. He ran more content.
1:21:50This all your fault, bro. I put him in position. I put him on social media. Suicide Bombers. He already had a channel before I put him on the pod. Yeah, but his channel, it was over there. a little bit more. Yeah, you gave me. And the Wi-Fi ain't popping up. My service bad. Oh, shit. So, have you been to the neighborhood? To the neighborhood? To your neighborhood. Yeah, I'm finna go back right now when I leave. Because they seem to think that you ain't good over there. On me, I ain't good in my hood? That's what they seem to think. Who's that? 600. 600 crazy as much. 600 ain't good in my hood.
1:22:28I'm the one that caught him and made sure he was good and I pressed the homies about him. What are you talking about? Yeah, 600 been going He been going at you big He said you was a buster You did buster shit We had an argument on Clubhouse I said 600 People don't know what they're doing That type of situation, man That's what I'm saying You gotta just get out of that situation You gotta just You know what I'm saying? You gotta make it out You gotta give a little Yeah, you gotta surrender Because if I'm As long as I make it out They want you to act like a bitch So that they can feel like They really did something They got it So you gotta give them at least a little bit of like, I bow down.
1:23:03And I ain't even gonna lie because I'm a real nigga. If it's me, my homies, anything, right? At the time, that's the emotion. I was in a fearful, you know what I'm saying? I'm trying to get out of this situation. You thought they was going on a live view? Probably when you heard the old dude say. Yeah, nigga, they already hit me, nigga. This shit ain't funny. But I can hear an old crazy geezer who been down close to 30. You gotta hit him in the neck. Youngster, hit him in the neck. I'll be you if you were part of this. Nah, let me tell you why it wouldn't be me. I'm coming back down on the pill.
1:23:38I'd have been in jail forever. I don't need one of these little motherfuckers. Or you don't know when it's an undercover in the cell with you. They do that too. That's how it's done. On B. Bray's case, you see they slid undercover in there with his crime. A dude told him some information they used that against him. Let's say they hit him in the neck. I don't need them saying, well, he told them to hit him in the neck. now I'm down there on the pill I'm going back up with another life sentence I'm not saying nothing but then you did kind of give a mixed situation because you said on the recording we was talking the old dude the old dudes wasn't with it are you saying they didn't get involved physically no I'm talking about the older dudes that's from 90s my nigga Space Golds and them niggas wasn't with that shit they like what the fuck y 'all got going on like man like once they hear all that commotion and shit they it was already damn near like then they're over by that time but they like what the fuck going on like he like nigga we ain't hell no like you ain't going down like that like niggas ain't supposed to get out like that bro like and then they start going they start going at it and shit you know what I'm saying at that point I'm like I can see where my niggas at I will tell you this when you in prison in jail wherever you be if the wrong dudes got is in place it's gonna be a bad situation the right dudes are in place I done been in situations where, you know, key ways then came in and I know them and I didn't let it happen.
1:25:03I done been in situations where I done walked in and some shit and they didn't let it happen. So, you know, I don't care who you are, how tough you think you is. When your ass out there is 10, 15 to 1, 20 to 1, right? You only going to be tough for so long. You can squabble. You can do it all till you do it. Eventually, you're going to succumb to whatever it is they want you to succumb to. And he lucky he was really dealing with some dudes that really wasn't savages and really was just clout chasing. I've seen people get raped, tied up, stuffed up under the bunk. You know what I'm saying? All type of stuff.
1:25:45Yeah, the niggas just clout chasing because, nigga, I didn't see a nigga. That's why it just ended up happening to me, you know what I'm saying? like i didn't heard about it happened seen it happen it happens bro it happens you know i'm saying it goes on you know i'm saying like so we can we can honestly say them dudes hollering t grizzly name had nothing to do with t grizzly in any way putting something on your head to do something to baby shooter man niggas t grizzly don't even know them niggas man look man he don't know them niggas at all bro talking like that was the catch to get the internet attention like The thing was catchy to get their attention and to see if T.
1:26:23Grizzly may reach out. T. Grizzly be a damn fool to reach out to them dudes. A damn fool. In any way. Because a lot of people are putting it out there like, oh, this is fucked up. A dude from Detroit is getting between Crips and L.A. And look at T. Grizzly. He's such a mob boss. He's really out here putting money on people. There's some real 40s that been on my phone who did not. I can show you on his phone. Did not agree with that. if you doing that because you got an issue with that neighborhood cool but don't say that you doing that out of respects or in regards to somebody that ain't from this jungle just because a dude you don't know that you moving for a dude to try to gain some favor because it makes it look like a rapper a regular common rapper Tee Grizzly ain't from nowhere and you know he run with the opposite side has that type of impact that y 'all moving just because.
1:27:20That don't happen out here. Yeah, it look crazy. It look crazy. You're moving just because. It don't look right. It takes away from the whole aura of what this thing stands for and what it's supposed to be. And I don't believe personally T. Grizzly or nobody in T. Grizzly camp called that in. I think that they was like hating on Shooter Shooter running around here he putting up you know people that sent him birthday wishes and he over here and he over there and he over here and he over there the stunner grill situation all these things is going on he's famous he's from an op hood he got the earrings alone sticking out his ears seem like they probably were you know motherfuckers are robbing each other or nothing in there.
1:28:09If you got earrings that are worth$1 ,000, a couple thousand dollars, I mean, that's enough for them to jump out. I'll pay$8 ,500 for them business. See, yeah. You know what I'm saying? And there, it doubled the price, so they probably, they probably try to, ain't nobody gonna give them a dub for it, but they could probably try to get somewhere close to it. But them niggas care about smoking that shit so much, they'll probably take a couple of that, you know what I'm saying? Well, they gonna have to send that out with one of the sheriffs, give it a praise, and say, look, give us this for it. Because there ain't nobody in there.
1:28:36They like, nigga, what I'm doing? They don't want to get caught with it right now because, like Attorney Jasmine said, it ain't no telling. It's no telling what they know. There's cameras in there, shit in here, y 'all saying what y 'all got, y 'all screaming y 'all name out, y 'all saying certain things. Right? You get caught with that. They don't need shooter. Them people that's on that recording, they don't need, if they really want to go press the gas, mash on the gas, and say, nah, you conspired with this. We hear the man in distress in the background. We hear you saying this in the name of this and in the name of that.
1:29:16And I wouldn't be surprised if they tapped T. Grizzly on his shoulder, which ain't cool. I don't believe he had anything to do with anything. I just believe it was a clout move. And I'm going to be real. This is why I say the streets is a myth, Adam. Dudes would do anything to be known. Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, this is going to be a loose cannon situation if those dudes get caught. That's a fact. Because they could have done it in the darkness of the prison and not had anybody know. And instead they wanted everybody to know and they might go down. That was the whole move. Yeah. That was the whole move.
1:29:49I got a call from Folsom at, I don't know what time it happened, at about 6.30, 5.36, I got a call from Folsom from Savvy 3rd. Yeah. How's he doing? He said, Wack, you talk to Shooter? No. He said, man, we getting information that this happened to him, and they got a tape. That's how you found out? I sat back that night. Because you told me it was coming out before it came out. I told you. I said, bros, the tape will come out on Shooter. I get to the thing that night. I'm telling Jaffa, Jaffa, they say they got a whoop-to-whoop. We like, Wack, no shit. You think it? I said, I don't know. They going to send it.
1:30:32I don't know. I told them to send it. I don't know what they talking about. Ten minutes later, Jap had it on his phone. He said, whack, the tape you talking about is real. I got it. Right? So
1:30:52I think I'm going to be real. I think it came to a point as a human being you was in fear of your life. Hell yeah And I'm trying to get About that shit Nigga You know And I ain't capping Right I got a million dollars Cash in my bank account Bro my first time ever In my life right Why the fuck I want to be Dying in prison For sure You know what I'm saying You just did two years In the county In the county Fighting two licenses And you been here For 72 hours 72 hours And your life flashing Before your eyes Before my eyes Nigga I'm going in And out of consciousness Or type of motherfuck You know what I'm saying It's like I'm like Nigga like Come on You got it nigga At the moment, I'm like, I'm trying to get up out of it right now.
1:31:35When I get out and hear myself, I'm like, damn, I did say some work-ass, bitch-ass shit. You know what I'm saying? I should have let that go. There we go. You feel me? There we go. There we go. He kept it real. I'm a real nigga. You feel me? When I look back at it, I'm like, y 'all, I did say some work-ass, bitch-ass shit. You know what I'm saying? But I'm trying to get about that shit in this situation. When he kept saying, you had nothing to do with nothing. Tell him you had nothing to do with nothing. Was he keying in on the Tee Grizzly shit? Nah. What was he talking about? The purple? Yeah.
1:32:12Read that right there. That conversation right there is the whole what we was talking about right there. They trying to make it seem Tee Grizzly. Nothing to do with Tee Grizzly. You feel me? That right there is what's going on.
1:32:29You want me to read it? want me to do dramatic adam 22 style reading of these yeah it's it's real gang shit being seen it's dead when you say it uh it's not a problem yeah because if i say food of days that's it well i said gang war so this is you talking to who that's my cousin okay that was on a case with us your cousin it was the purple or the white i'm the purple you the purple so you said on the dead homies get it for me let me see i'm gonna put cut out okay we started out top top right here
1:33:02all right yesterday i purple purple the top oh it might have moved where's the game where you go the game yeah it moved i see the slide slide again yeah it moved like when you It slid Okay
1:33:25You said Gang You ain't got that statement Of Two boy They packed me out Cause cuz said I gave the police my phone Instead of him He tried to turn the tables on me On the dead homies Your cousin said Never Yeah I got you I'm gonna get it for you You said on the dead homies. Yeah, get it for me. I'm going to put cut out there. Your cousin said, yeah, he's super bunk for that. I got you. It's good. You said, I bet. On the dead homies, he was talking crazy on both our names.
1:34:01Neighborhood dudes believed cut. And the Nats believed it. Right. He said, time for exposure. You said, dead homies. We finna have this N-word go viral. So the dude told him you did what he did. Exactly. But I still don't think that was the reason. I just think they was call chasing. How the woman be real. It was call chasing from the top. But that's why they tried to explain to my nigga from now I know and the older nigga from now I know why they bust on me. You feel me? That's why they tried to explain. That's why they stabbed nigga up. Like, oh, homie said it's paywall. You know what I'm saying?
1:34:41And that's a legitimate region if that's the case. but it's like alright hell no because it's impossible because nigga he the one did it so right these niggas facing a lot of time right I take care of a lot of my niggas on the level 4 right so when they get there or you stop the real you stop the real crap in the county jail over some shit you ain't have 100 % proof on a straight lie they out of there but this is why everything and half a saying on why I didn't or we not, it ain't valid. It ain't valid. That nigga just capping, bro. At first, I'm thinking like, I'm thinking like, oh, that's the homie, maybe they just telling the homie some shit, bro, you know what I'm saying, and he going off of it.
1:35:25No, he went in on your ass. And then I'm hearing this shit, I'm like, this nigga just coming up with shit as he go. I'm like, this nigga crazy, man. This nigga just coming up with shit as he go. Like a good YouTuber. What? So you told him that shit? No, but I'm just saying like, you know, You look at Flacco, you look at Ross or whatever, what's more important, getting the facts right or making an entertaining video with a good title that's going to get some views? He killed a motherfucker at the taco truck. Next day, oh, my bad, it wasn't a taco truck. That's what I told the Humsah. He got 200 ,000 views already.
1:35:59Yo, okay, so we got people in the chat are like, you don't have cuts on your face, you don't have cuts on your hand, and you seem to be moving your arm a little bit within the cast. They basically are saying - He got a sling on. Yeah, a sling. But they're acting like you made the whole thing up. My question is, who the f*** would make that up? Especially as a gang member out in LA. Why would you lie about all that? You're trying to justify hollering and screaming because you was in this pain, but they said nothing, nothing. That's what they said. They said nothing, nothing. They're saying you're trying to make it look like you got hurt worse than you actually did to justify why you were screaming on the phone.
1:36:34These people probably never had a fight in their life. I'm going to tell you shit. I'm going to shut up. They had me and I yelled in the cell with the set. And it was what it is, you know what I'm saying? They got me. And this was almost a week ago, right? Yeah. So, I mean, did you look worse at first? I had cuts in here, you know what I'm saying? I see a cut. That shit went down. That shit goes away. Yeah, a lot of small wounds in a week. That shit went away. Like, you know what I'm saying? That shit went away. So do you kind of like, because I know what happens when I'm in a situation like that, I tend to remember certain people.
1:37:11Oh, man. Okay, so you remember certain people. I'm not talking about my top view. They was bad at me because they like, whack you justified. I said, I'm not justified, nothing. I'm just simply telling you that man is in and out. He ain't going to be in there five years, one year, ten years. And my whole thing, sometimes people don't think. If you know you in there looking at a long period of time, you know this dude is who he is and he know for certain things you got to know what you're doing better know it you get what i'm saying but like and said man dudes being there bored looking to do something he did say people be on there on spice or whatever that is i don't know why i don't know these new drugs i'm i'm outdated all right that would be the hardest part about getting locked up would be fighting the urge to smoke spice and just wig out what does it do to you is like crazy weed, right?
1:38:09It's a little bit like weed, but then it makes you wild the fuck out. Exactly like that. PCP on paper type shit. PCP without making them cock strong. It probably make them cock strong too. Yeah, PCP, boy. You think you can catch a bullet? I done seen dudes try to catch a bullet and die. Fire the gun, I'll catch it with my teeth. I done seen them do all kind of shit. Run out there in the middle of the street, gotta go head up with a car PCP. This is how they act on PCP. man Wu-Tang one of my favorite rap groups of all time they were all off dust that whole time so I feel like Martin Lawrence was running down into a bullet for a shirmed up he was off that water I always wanted to try it so next question what's your next move you think your clout gone you gonna nah hell no that's not how it works these days nah I'm just saying you think your clout gone hell no you survived some crazy shit they make fun of you for a week and then it becomes like you survived that.
1:39:09Okay. Did you take a worse ass whooping than Adam did in the ring? It sounds like it was worse. Way worse than Adam. Yeah. I mean if it was 10 niggas just packing me up I'm gonna be honest with you. Yeah 10 Jason loves them. If they was just f***ing me up right I would just bar up put my leg by my elbows and just let them go to work. and stay right there until they got tired because there's 10 of them they can't reach me like that when they putting me in doing all this kind of hard so it's like hell yeah I took words because somebody said the dude that identified himself they said dude like like a kid I mean he probably was a kid them niggas been in there a little while now you know what's crazy though it shocked me because when I was fighting that case we back and forth nigga from wayside on the 10, 14 tanks.
1:40:02We hollering, nigga. We talking about shit, nigga. Little shit we're going to do when we get out and all this little shit. Yeah, that nigga was cool, nigga. He was a cool nigga. You knew him when he was, before you got out, you ran across him? Yeah, we was going back and forth to court together for about two years. Oh, shit. It was a clout move. Like, oh, that nigga got out and, because he told me himself, like, you got out and got on, nigga. I heard you was doing this and doing that. I heard you were whacking him. I'm like, yeah regular shit you know what I'm saying I'm not so loud about it though cause I ain't like to me it's regular to them niggas it's like a dream come true you know what I'm saying like whatever like I'm already at the level so like you feel me I guess they just imagining in their head and they like damn whatever you know what I'm saying we can come up with a little name for us and fuck this shit or someone I'm like shit you gonna put a song about it when they get out you ain't worried about it your homies ain't tripping in the neighborhood on me yeah they ain't tripping over there hell no I took a eyes whooping and kept against it I ain't telling them niggas I ain't rolling up there's a whole lot of niggas took a ass whooping yeah you gotta do that I ain't never been knocked out but I didn't seen them little stars before getting packed out I ain't never went to sleep but I definitely seen them little stars we was taught that when you get to that point you just key in on one and just beat him as much as they beating you remember I just said that I did that nigga And I had nigga two times good nigga And this motherfucker Before you know it This motherfucker wasn't going no more Oh yeah you lost your arm Yeah that was bad That's bad That wasn't going no more That was over with That's bad work But I know the chat wonder Like I said When I hurt myself When I got out I said Yeah I said some bitch ass nigga shit You know what I'm saying When you in it Spare the moment You trying to get out You gonna say it Listen man So as far as you concerned You did what you had to do to survive Most definitely So the chat is here, you here.
1:41:58They didn't hear some of this story partially from what you told me and I put it up. Right? This is the Wack Pack chat. So you already know. I think you was acting. Acting what? I think some of that shit was acting. What? That was an act for you to get. I think you was acting when you was screaming like that. I don't think it was all. I think you had a little fear in you because you was going out consciously. But I think some of it was. I think that shit was hacked. I think that's some shit you didn't rehearse before. Nah, I did put extras on. I'm saying I did. I did. Give me a buck this motherfucker, bro.
1:42:33I'm trying to get a buck this bitch. You got to get a chat, nigga. You got to get a chat of demonstration.
1:42:40You got to get a chat of demonstration. How to get out of jail when you're being attacked. No, we want to hear a demonstration. Help! Help! Let me go! Fire! Fire! Fire! We want a baby shooter demonstration. Since we trolling, we trolling. I'll be crying like a baby. I'm like, ah, y 'all trying to kill me in this mother... My hands up and everything. Y 'all trying to kill me in this mother... They said, no, we not. You might catch a nigga that just got three with half. Like, hell no. Hey, y 'all get off that nigga. What you talking about? Oh, and you know, I'm going to be real. For the next couple nights, some of them dudes wasn't sleeping right.
1:43:27Nah. Because that shit went viral. It went crazy. They saying, damn, cub, neighborhood. Hope that nigga keep it solid. This is real shit. Right. And then they getting mad at that jefe because he constantly pumping and screaming out details and names. Yo, guy. he all the way up under your armpit I haven't really talked to him besides on the pod over the phone I mean he told on himself the first you got him you asked the question the magical question look I just put these guys on the pod I don't know how they're going to handle the hardships that later come their way you just asked a question and told them to answer it oh when I asked him about the DP thing I didn't think he was going to say all that I just felt like that was so much more than I asked for when I was like I was just giving them an opportunity to say hell no I want no DP these motherfuckers are crazy I thought he was going to say something like that.
1:44:18Listen, listen. I hate to say it, and I'm really tripping, like, really handling this well. He handling this shit like there's no big deal. Yeah, he's unbothered. Man. Me, I would not be making YouTube videos. I would not be calling in, talking about no topics. You got bigger shit to handle, man. That's crazy shit. Bro, and he's positioning himself like he's the one. He's the shot caller. He talking crazy on the phone. I'm going to tell you that right now. So what's the word on that Well what are they saying about that In the community All the shit he's saying on the phone Niggas ain't not feeling that bro Because it's like Nigga like Why are you saying all this shit on the phone bro right They already They already positioned you as a certain Rogue in a crime And you talking on this motherfucker crazy Like what the fuck Like What is you Niggas ain't feeling that I don't understand bro You know what I'm saying I was just in there fighting like two for two years I ain't on that motherf***er making no motherf***er content about nothing because you is the goddamn content at this point you know what I'm saying I mean that's the thing that's crazy about it is that like it seems like almost a universal opinion that he shouldn't be talking so freely about this shit but then meanwhile Ant as much as I f*** with the guy he's so hard headed that like everybody saying that he's saying too much is not gonna like lead him to be like Like, oh, my bad.
1:45:44I fucked up. You know, it's crazy, though. Ant, bro, I swear to God, Ant used to be a real stand-up. Before this podcasting content shit, I don't know if you got to him at him or what. He was a real stand-up nigga, bro. He was a quiet nigga and everything. He don't talk much, bro. You know what I'm saying? He was straight by the code. Now he coming over shit as he go and talking too much about some shit and talking some shit he don't even know about. It was like, damn, Ant, a nigga don't even want to disrespect you, bro. I know your family bro Grew up with your brother Nigga since you were in the heart Nigga we With the middle school Elementary together And your brother You know what I'm saying Like I don't want to disrespect you On Harry Cup But you steady going At this shit bro Like Come on cuz You making up as You making up as you go Like come on bro That's crazy And making the story up Like he was there Like Come on fool Shit crazy Damn Yeah man Hey I don't know But that shit is insane Hey yeah I got a side question When I interviewed 4X yesterday, he said, you keep bringing up fake 4X on here.
1:46:46Who do you think he's talking about? Because I kept saying, you're talking about J-Hood? You're talking about J-Hood? And he wouldn't say that he was talking about J-Hood, but I've been thinking about that. Who do you think he was referring to? I mean, listen, not to be started. Obviously, Smoky Face is kind of the other option, right? But we already know that he's a dude. I've been saying that. But bringing up my cousin is like. No, but I've been. No, but no, he's trying to be that. like he's trying to follow 4Xs in his trail and he can't he's just not him he's just not him he ain't pushing peace well he ain't pushing war like 4Xs do he got to be pushing war because that's how his channel got blew up you over here in the dude neighborhood talking about you over here looking for him for a fake that ain't peace that's war that's just ice cream cone you saying things to where Listen, once upon a time, it was a time where I saw a sporty face.
1:47:42I sat down and I did a podcast with him. I didn't know him. I remember. Now, right, he's moving around very uncomfortable because he don't know what's to come, right? That's not peace. You didn't went from being in a peaceful state to being paranoid right now. So I don't think he was talking about Jay Hood because he know who Jay Hood is. But when he says a fake 4X, you're talking about somebody who's real turnt up, was in prison, and was beating motherfuckers up. That's J-Hood. Listen, J-Hood is J-Hood as 4X is 4X. There is nobody that can say J-Hood is trying to act like them because J-Hood's reputation is solidified from the very things he did.
1:48:29You know that. You know what I'm saying? Ain't no pretending to be what 4Xras did. 4Xras did. What J-Hood did. J-Hood did. If we got to isolate that, he's talking about Spodeyface. Maybe, but I don't know. He seems like he's still got a lot of love for Spodeyface, so I felt like he wasn't talking about him. Because J-Hood has talked about 4Xra and kind of tossed doubt about the way that 4Xra has told certain stories. Like what stories? I can't even remember exactly, but there's definitely The baby, you know, J-Hood and B-Bray is kind of close. Maybe he spoke on that. That's what I'm saying. Yeah.
1:49:05He might have spoke on that. I think J-Hood said that that fight didn't go the way that they said or whatever. Look, J-Hood, 4-Extra, Cam Capone. I'm pretty sure there's... J-Hood on the wild 4-Extra versus B-Bray's fight. 4-Extra's mouth and nose were busted and Bray's couldn't breathe. So probably, you know, he don't love that. He probably said it was... Actually, that's only two days ago, though. Listen, hey, listen. Listen, as much as 4X to fight, of course this shit going to get busted a time or two. My shit then got busted and I still won the fight. Yeah. Right? So, you know, at the end of the day.
1:49:42But yeah, J-Hood has talked a bunch about 4X to losing to Braze, which actually doesn't sound possible. Like maybe Braze is bigger than I'm imagining he is. I heard that story in the county though. Really? That Braze won that fade? Swear to God. I ain't even lying. Damn, that's crazy. if true. I'm not saying it's true. I heard the story though, swear to God. It's funny that there's a clip from three months ago. Crip Mac goes off on J-Hood. You were on a PC yard. You're a nobody's cloud chasing. Yeah, but he was on a 50-yard for real. I know, but that's why it's funny. And I'm gonna be real. If Crip Mac ever ran into J-Hood, he's gonna run.
1:50:22You think? I'm telling you he gonna run. Hmm. Dude is going to take off running. The character, the little garbage pill character, all that shit's out the door. He got his nemesis, J-Hood, one of them, J-Fob, another one. The boy from Brim that knocked his teeth out is another. We got his little people that he's going to run. Everything changed. When he ran into Blueface, everything changed. I don't know about that, but I got to be a good gang interpreter for my BMX group chat the other day because they were all like, yo, why Crip Mac got the anti-bicycle thing on his hand? I had to be like, well, gentlemen, let me tell you.
1:51:03So I felt like I was able to kind of be a bridge there, help them understand. I mean, listen, dude, I'm going to be real. Either they just don't take dude serious, or dude just, he don't hang out like that. Who? Crip Mac. He'd be on his own timing. Yeah, because the shit he got on his body, you know, shooter. Right? And then who he is. Like how they went clout chaser with Shooter. They damn sure love to do it with him. Right. I don't wish nothing bad on him. I think R &B enjoys his content. She thinks he's hilarious, the way he talks. She says he should go do voiceovers and shit. Think he has some history there.
1:51:46Kermit's the best. Great American. But I hope you don't ever cross him up with J-Hood. I would not do that unless they were both on board, which doesn't really seem likely at this moment. J-Hood ain't tripping. Yeah, yeah, I think J-Hood would do it. J-Hood would sit down. Yeah, he not tripping. I wouldn't really do that unless they had already had a combo. But if Crickback come playing them games with them antics, trying to sneak this and do little shit he think he be doing, raising his voice, nephew going to sock him out. That's a fact. Well, I'm not going to create that environment. He wouldn't be able to stop it.
1:52:24well I'm gonna just like avoid it and not put them together like J Hood ain't gonna trip but I just believe Krip Mac could get over animated okay paper chaser said whack what do you think about Ray J getting marked out by Sauce don't try to move the goalposts for him either Ray J is from a hood with people under his name and he turned it down um Ray J and Sauce were streaming I talked to Sauce Walker this morning yeah I talked to Ray J the night before and Sauce Walker has since put up things with him and Ray J. Yeah, because that was a clip, but then there was a clip like right after them getting over it, right?
1:52:59All Ray J shit was in Sauce Walker car at the time. You mentioned me to Sauce? No. Okay.
1:53:09You got to get Sauce to come on here. I believe that because I didn't know what went on. Because when I called Sauce, I said, bro, you tripped over him. talking about how many diamonds you got in your mouth, right? He like, no, what? He had made a statement about what rapper plays his music that much as something on the stream, and Sauce took offense to that, right? Right. So I had a conversation with Sauce, and he like, what, he said that on the stream, so I had to address it on the stream. But then the conversation went a little further. You know, when we get to talking about how it's supposed to go after that, Sauce agreed.
1:53:47You know, we all homies. You know, everybody knows that once California, I don't really acknowledge gang members outside of California. I mean, you don't respect it. If you were in Texas and you ended up doing some content with a Hoover out there, you're going to respect their politics, right? I don't engage. I don't acknowledge them. I don't get a part of their politics. I ain't saying they don't exist. I ain't saying they ain't real. We got a whole neighborhood in Nashville somewhere, right? But that's their thing, right? My shit stops. once I crossed California state line. But Sauce Walker is one of those dudes that we do acknowledge.
1:54:25Okay. We acknowledge Sauce Walker. You know what I mean? He got extreme love over here, and he shows us extreme love over there. So it's always a conversation that can be had, you know, when we get on the phone. And him and Ray J, they hit me this morning on the FaceTime after I spoke with both of them, and they got that right. So, you know, homies get into it sometime. Ray J is a full character on that stream he like 607 you turn that camera on when the camera go off he's back to go that shit was crazy to me because Sauce just immediately goes to I'm a multi-millionaire he's like he's clowning you for like listening to your music too much and you go basically make it fun of you for being an egomaniac and then your response is to be like I'm a multi-millionaire this is the corny shit that he was laughing at you for what it was was Ray J gotta remember that Sauce Walker's a real homie and he's just not a character like believe it or not y 'all think AB be drunk playing every now and then AB goes back to who he really is and starts to address some shit you talking about a nigga that didn't touch hundreds of millions and now he on here he playing and clowning but sometime he and as drunk as they think he is and you slide some shit and he be like nigga he be serious Sauce is not a streaming character.
1:55:49He's just streaming. And that's where Ray J, right, kind of forgot because when he's in streaming mode, he running content. When I go down there with him to his little spot, I know he's in streaming mode, so he may say and do some things, but I know him and Sauce know each other. It's love. But Sauce, like, nigga, you a homie like I'm a homie. Certain things we ain't supposed to do in front of nobody. When you're on stream, you massively incentivized to beef and then get over it. Because you're doing content together. It's awkward if this beef is just going to linger or whatever. But if me and you are doing a live stream and we get into a big argument, boom, that's a clip.
1:56:28Everybody knows that. Sauce is streaming. He's not a streaming character as of yet. You get what I'm saying? Like Shooter, Shooter come in here, right? And I know certain things I know not to do with him because I can sit here with you or somebody lush, right? Because we in character with this podcast shit. Everybody ain't that. And I think Ray J kind of like wasn't focused on sauce. It's just streaming. This nigga's not in character as a streamer. And with AB, when I was interviewing him, he started saying some shit about how he felt like he was one of the only dudes that was staying in Atlanta that could go with Lucci and with Thug and both sides didn't give a fuck and didn't mention it or let that be the case.
1:57:20And I was like, yeah, but you know, a lot of the street dudes and the rappers, they'll give a certain level of grace to a star athlete. And he's basically like, nah, I'm really like that. He didn't want me putting him in the celebrity athlete category. No, no, I mean, because AB, that's my guy. I've been on AB trying to help him. And I'm glad he didn't made a move to get his money back right. But I was on him, on him, like trying to get him to rehab. Oh, he'll tell you that. Me, him, and his brother, and his manager on a text blast to this day. And we, you know, periodically get on the FaceTime with each other.
1:57:55But AB, he got a lot of shit going on, bro. You know, AB and that damn Rico. Which Rico? Big U Rico. For doing what? I didn't know that. Yeah, AB is dead. The dice game with, what's the nigga with the beard? The ball player nigga from Compton. Oh, you talking about that nigga James Harden? James Harden. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, AB is dead center in the middle of that shit. Okay, so Adrian Broner is not indicted in the Rolling 60s Rico case. He is, however, named in the federal indictment as a co-conspirator slash victim regarding allegations that he scammed NBA players out of millions of dollars using rigged dice in 2019.
1:58:40Federal prosecutors named the former boxing champion referred to in court documents as AB in a racketeering case led by the Los Angeles music executive Big U, who is identified as a leader of the LA Rollins 60s crib. The document details the following allegations surrounding that event, which was rigged games in which Broner allegedly used teased or rigged Dice to cheat two high-profile NBA players out of$6.5 million during a high-stakes Dice game in 2019. Because Broner was not checked in with the gang leadership, the operation led by Big U allegedly intervened to help the NBA players recover their money, effectively shaking down and threatening Broner.
1:59:20And then celebrity extortion, the overreaching Rico indictment alleges that the Roland 60 Crips ran a celebrity protection racket and subjected famous figures to robberies and extortion. So while he has not been arrested or criminally charged in the racketeering case, the investigation exposed his involvement in the high stakes rigged gambling circuits involving the gang's members. I wish I had asked them about that in the interview. They're gonna ask him did big you come and pressure you for those guys' money back? Right. This is what they coming at him about. Okay, you wanna know some other shit?
1:59:57Dean the Great when he came here was with a bunch of 6-0s and there was a clip that came out the other day in which Dean thought that the cameraman had muted the camera right Dean's drunk and Dean basically starts telling a girl that some dudes that he was hanging out with in LA robbed his crib when he wasn't there and so basically like when I seen the clip it was titled Dean accidentally exposes that a Rowan 60 member robbed his crib. So you look at that and you're like, oh, well, that kind of makes sense why Dean and Adrian would have been brought together to do content. I don't think that played a part in it.
2:00:36Yeah, I mean, the boxing thing obviously is a bigger part of it, but it still might have been part of why they ended up being a tag team. And then another thing in the headlines, and I told everybody, you know I told everybody, I warned everybody. I said over a month some ago, the feds have the tape. And they have the contract. Of what? You know what I said to you? Poo Shiesty. Oh. I said the feds have the tape. The video that Big 30 took when this dumbass attorney was saying, there's no tape. It wasn't a contract. It was rap lyrics. I said, hey, look, bro, I'm telling you what I know. The feds got the tape.
2:01:18Yeah. The feds also had a contract. Now watch this. So now you got Big 30 and his dad in there, right? No bail. No bail. So now the feds have the contract who was in there getting the contract in form of a manager. And the feds have the footage out of Big 30 phone recording the chops, handing the backpack to him, all this shit, right? We need better criminals. You can't be filming yourselves doing this shit. Let's get to it. So prior to, you ain't got no bail. So now the feds exposed we got the tape, you get a bail. What you think happens when they find this tape that the phone is registered to you?
2:02:11The feds is going to go talk to who? Big 30. Right. He has no bail. Well, no, Big 30 is out. You're missing the point. He had no bail. Now they discover the tape on his phone. The first thing they're going to do is go talk to who? Him. Big 30. After this discovery, which puts you in a worse situation, it puts you in a situation where, oh, shit, you really part of this thing. Now you got to bail. So you think Big 30 is cooperative? Man, listen. He had no, his daddy's the one had the contract. Push Ice and him are like mega, mega childhood friends. Big 38 never did a day in jail. Before all this?
2:03:00Before all this. Now listen to me. Prior to he had no bail, I told the world they got the contract and the tape by the Big 30 phone. Everybody say whack, don't know what he's talking about. Push Ice, the attorney said what? They don't have any of these things. That was rap lyrics. You don't recall that? No, no. They don't have no tape. They don't have none of it. It's just what Gucci Mane is saying, right? So now the tape pops up and then he gets a bail. See, when the tape pop up, the fez is going to say, this is your phone. It's registered to you. This is you recording this. Do you recall what's going on in here?
2:03:40Why did you record it? Did somebody tell you to record it? Who is this? Can you point out, identify the people that's in your phone on this video? They're going to ask you all this. The question is, Big 30, why he didn't tell us they had the tape? You ain't going to break up Chopper Game, man. Listen, the paperwork going to show it. It's Chopper Game for life. Didn't you heard him say? Poo Shikes is dangerous. He shot two people while he was out. See. No, but that was back. They're saying he shot people like before this case, like 2020. Was he arrested for that? Before he went for the other case type shit?
2:04:14Yeah. It's not like noob shootings. Was he arrested for that? Yeah. He was arrested for shooting two people. Shooting the security guard in the nightclub and then shooting the guy when they were doing it. What security guard in the nightclub? You don't remember this? That went away. I mean, but they still got evidence that it happened. You can't say he shot anybody. But that's the shooting that they're talking about. There's no evidence that that happened because I know for a fact the footage went away. I don't think they have new. They don't have none of that. So my question to you is Big 30.
2:04:44Did they come talk to you about the tape that was in your phone? Big 30 would never tell. He's a solid individual. How do you know? From rap songs? I sat down and interviewed him for like an hour and a half. And therefore, I know exactly what kind of person he is. Chopper Gang. Chopper Gang. Hey, listen. One of the finest gangs. How about his dad? Is his dad solid? His dad a rat. Straight rat. Yeah. We've seen the paperwork on him. Where you see that paperwork at? It was on the internet. No shit? Yeah. That's a Wack 100 exclusive. They don't like to give me my shit. They don't like to give me mine.
2:05:22That's a Wack 100 exclusive. They don't like to give me mine. Shout out, Baby Shooter. Shout out, Wack 100. Everybody who watches, smack the like button on it. And everybody go ask Big 30, why you didn't tell us they had the tape let's go appreciate y 'all much love gang tune in to nothing but content on all platforms 607 Unk got two episodes up got about eight episodes up check out them crazy white boys from Welcome to the Creek we out
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