Black Label on Being the Blackest White Man in America, 15 Years in the Feds & More

25:42They kidnapped me. Oh really? They done caught my people for the ransom. They said they got the ransom. They come to the house. Man they 50, 60 deep. They ransacked the house. Shoot out all this shit. I gotta jump over two fences. Run out to the main street. What the fuck? Yeah, all this shit going on. I'm about, from about 12 to about 17-ish, all this shit going on. Really? And it's just insanity, but it felt, did it feel normal to you kind of? It's normal. Wow. It's normal. Outrageous. Yeah. But you got to figure that out back in, you know, 1986, all the way up to, you know, till we got knocked off in 2000.

26:18You know what I mean? You just grow, grow, grow. So, okay, what happens when you're 17? I have found a plug through Jamaica Child Posse down in Miami By 16-ish I have found A plug down there For weed? No, for coke That's all we ever did, coke and crack I ain't selling nothing else And was there already People selling coke in your city? Yeah, so we had Jed Lee Wonder Man, Timothy Lee Mailman, J &R Car Wash Prescott was the street right behind it Then we had Phillips Mechanics shop. All that right there was just infested. Then we had Romeo Mathis, Terry Lee. These are all like real live gangsters out of our city who really put the city.

27:00Without that black entrepreneurship, we wouldn't have black entrepreneurship right now in St. Pete without that. They're the leaders of that shit. The founder of 1986, they made that city rich. So you guys just, you get a plug and you just start buying huge amounts of coke? Yeah. Well, you know, it takes time. I mean, you know, for the viewers who don't know, I'm just going to, you know, you go from, you know, curb serving, bicycle hustling, you're so on and running cars and shit. Then you get your little trap. You feel me? You and your boys get together. Y 'all get a little trap. Now, y 'all, you know, paying the rent shit like that.

27:34Get your little car. You know, things like that move in between these years. And then it just start escalating and the shit bigger. You know, like I said, these boys had good work, but we so young, they're not really giving us the work we want. We want two, three bricks. they trying to give us a half a brick but they're not a price of a full brick because they don't trust you to bring the money back we're just too young they like they really not understanding it that you're trying to go the whole way with this yeah I'm trying to go the whole way you're trying to be a kingpin right and they they trying to hold us back and now when they trying to hold us back you know it's almost like they trying to double charge us because we kids we ain't trying to hear that shit right yeah we trying to get to the money just like y 'all y 'all we are y 'all's successors we the next group of the leaders right you know someone say you got to feed us If you ain't going to feed us, there's two things.

28:18We're going to go take that shit, or we're going to go find our own shit. How were you able to get to the level of being that prolific without attracting a bunch of attention from the law? Well, we did. You did. But back then, you only had one set of group. It was called the Green Team. You had Rambo. You had Officer Glover. You had Little Michael. You had Terrell Skinner. There was like a handful of maybe six of them. The jump out boys. but back then the south side so rampant they really not even trying to lose their life down here like the police like I told another person but we didn't even get our mail to the door the mailman come sit in the big white pails at the corner store in front of the door and then you have to walk from your house up to the corner store and sit through the mail to get your mail and go back to the house we didn't get pizza delivered to the house until like 1999 it was that dangerous that even the cops were scared yeah that shit was vicious bro What had to change to make that impossible where now everybody's scared of the cops?

29:20So what happened is the cops got more militant. They got more spending budget. They got more equipment. Back then, there was no Wi-Fi. There was no drones. There was no ring. There was no cameras. There was no surveillance. There was no social media. There was no MySpace. There was no Facebook. There was no Twitter. There was no Instagram. There was nothing. Without all that shit, what you got? Yeah. Nothing. Yeah. Yeah. You know how hard it is to prosecute a case with nothing? So the cops wanted you guys, but they just were having a hard time putting it together. I mean, they put it together, but we got so much violence and rampant and rage in this bitch.

29:56Like I said, back then, they wasn't as militant. They wasn't as trained. Nah, man, shit. I wouldn't do it. Nah. You know, because the police are a whole different... Everything I've learned from doing these interviews over the years is do not get into a life of organized crime. Don't do it. Because you You are just really outmatched, man. You don't want to play with the feds. Yeah, you don't want to play with them at all. The feds are a whole different. They had to get the feds in there to get us up out of there. So when you ask what changed, in 1996, there was a huge indictment that went out.

30:24Okay. And it was Big E. Big E's name is Eric Wynn. It was called the Microsoft case. So now everything that started from that Microsoft case, everybody started falling up underneath that indictment. So Eric went on the run. So he went on the run, and he still ain't been caught still to this day. They did a Miracle Most Wanted segment where he was with Shulk Knight and Tupac out here in Vegas and shit. But they never seen him again. Don't nobody know what happened to him. So that was in 1996. So when you ask what happened from 1996 to 2002 to they actually cleaned that whole area up with the gentrification and coming in, you know, setting us up, taking us out, taking us out.

31:01From 1996 to 2002. That's what cleaned that whole shit up. That's crazy. So when did you personally get caught up? 2000. Okay, and they comfort you one day? What was the deadline? Oh, no, no. We had been already, by the time this shit, we done already ruled our rank. We done already proved ourselves. We top of the top. We the dope boys of the city now. We like Jed and Wonder Man now. They all gone fed. They on the run. They done been busted, all this shit. They done took all this shit, took the car wash, took the money, all this shit, took the cars. So now here we are. So now we just get a little smooth break, and then we get ready to send, I sent some partners up to Tennessee.

31:41We're going to start a new chapter. We're going to branch out. So we're going to conquer Tennessee. So I sent them on the road, like two or three bricks, four bricks, something like that. So they ended up getting caught. I don't know that. But I'm expecting a phone call to say, hey, you know, the people want to holler at you. The people I sent them up there because of grade A coat. So he called me and said, yeah, we made it. You know what I'm saying? The people want to holler at you. So boom, get on the phone. We holler. So the dude, we ended up linking up with him. I don't know at the time. You know, he fed.

32:05I don't know that. Black dude, you know, heavyset. kind of cool but awful little bit he had been buying crack and dope and shit off me three four again I'm so naive I don't even understand I'm thinking the police buy one and they come and bust you I don't know about the feds and then how they working them check marks and how they want more crack and more guns and more violence you see so he ended up knocking me off at the time you know wired up and all this old extra shit and when they came in the house they bust the whole house started slamming like um eggs and mayonnaise and milk and shit all over the fridge right they busting windows out my house and shit they coming off the roof them bitches coming through the grass got seven suvs you know i could see all this shit in slow motion i'm like damn what the going on bro so they doing all this extra ass shit so he sent me on the couch he was like i've been doing this for 15 years you facing life in prison get me somebody over here right now so i'm like what you mean he said get me somebody over here i'm like what do you mean like what you want he was like i want you to bring whoever you can to get you to deliver some crack right now to this house he said we getting ready to clear out of here i said man put me in the back of that mother truck bro there's nobody talking to you and plus he he white i'm definitely don't trust you you got me up which i know you ain't you ain't for me you know but again i'm so stanched i'm so hard on the streets hotel keep your mouth shut to your time come home all this but that wasn't the case bro.

33:33I kept my mouth shut but I paid dearly for it. So other people told on you though? Yeah yeah. For sure. My case went from my case went from 6 to 14 to 56 to 62 and by the time 2002 had spread out to like 502 people. Wow. That's crazy. That's crazy bro. And all this shit is documented. We can sit here and Google and find this shit. And so you took a plea at some point? I did. I took the plea. It was just my best interest. For how many years? Ten. And how did ten turn into fifteen? Because they wanted me to testify against some dudes who was going to trial. Oh, right, right, right. They got to go to trial.

34:13Right. Because they wanted the rights reserved. Come and get life, but I can come back. If I plead, I'll still get life. I don't come back. So that's why they'd be forced to go to trial. So like, man, you're going to go, you know, testify on them. We're going to, you know, give you ten years and that's what you're going to do. But we're going to send you to a camp. Mind you, I don't know none of this shit. High level, medium, none of this shit. I just hear what they say. I don't even know what the camp means. But I just no bitch you trying to take me off the street you fit so i'm like nah that shit so he came um it was time for them boys to go to trial they come and get me to take them back to go to trial with take me to them you know to mortgage street to take me back to testify i'm like no i ain't doing it so the same dude was on my couch with the same dude who came and got me to testify like six months later he told me man you up he said i'm gonna show you how much you up so i'm like man whatever man that bitch came back two weeks later superseded indictment five more years 924C Possession Constructive possession Of a firearm And furtherance of a Trafficking crime Which means that They ain't got to Find a gun They don't have to Prove it was a gun now It's just Constructive possession A gun was under Somewhere Where drugs were being sold That bitch gave me That shit Crazy But not Would you say It was just like Your arrogance That got you that He think it's arrogance Still to this day There's two sides of the law It's them and us It's not arrogance I have a principle I know what me and my partners went through to get here I know the pain I seen my mama cry I seen their mama cry I seen them in church begging God I seen them putting their tides you know what I'm saying it's deeper than telling we really strive to get where the we was at without the knowledge that you had or they had or the other routes this is the only route we had and we took it and we succeeded so for me to go back and tell them my partner and them ain't make no sense to me because everything we worked hard for we got it And then I'm going to throw it all away.

36:02What about once they start telling on you? It doesn't become like extremely appealing to telling them? I didn't know it until like 36 months later when I start going through my paperwork. Oh, so you've already been locked up for three years and then you start going through. Oh, wow. Right. Because see, I'm so young. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I'm so young. I still don't believe I'm going to do these 15. I still don't believe it. But shit, I did day for day. Wow. Yeah. Day for every bit of them 15. When you show up in prison for the first time, would you say that you're someone who took to it pretty well or was it soul crushing?

36:36I took to it pretty well. Yeah? Yeah. It's part of life. Right. Shit happens. I haven't seen it. It's around death in prison. Graveyard in prison, y 'all. That's what's producing down here on the south side at the time. Was there part of you that you think wanted to go to prison so you could kind of prove yourself? No. I didn't want to go. But if I did go in my mind, I was only doing three to five. And I come home to my bitch. I come home to my cars. I come home to my money. I still got my status. Crate needs me right back up. I'll put it on for the city. Shit. Far from my reality. Right. Yeah.

37:05So you get in there and you're basically like, just from day one, you're like, I'm running black. How does that conversation go? So it goes like this. By the time I had already got there, you know, Jed and, you know, Wonder Man and, you know, some of the neighborhood locals was already there before I got there. Right. And one of my right hand men, he was already there before I got there. So when I come in, before you get there, they already, the prisoners know you coming because the kites already being dropped and flown to you because whatever you're doing in the county jail, that's what's going to follow you.

37:38So you can't be a snitch in the county jail in Tampa and think you finna go to Atlanta penitentiary and don't nobody know who you is. No, bitch, that note finna follow you. It's finna be there before you get there. So them bitches already know that you're a rat. So you're trying to hit that compound, trying to be somebody you're not. if you was gay in the county jail and you come up to Atlanta and you don't think you finna be gay a bitch already told you were gay so them dudes on the compound finna make sure that you gay so where the fuck you is that's what you coming in as and that's what you better stand on so you know the white boys had a fit you understand what I'm saying of course you know they don't want to see one of their own you know riding with the black car and shit like that but Florida is way different than California right you know way different the politics are vastly wide what are like how so like what are the white dudes out like So y 'all got like black and brown.

38:23And again, listen to whoever watching this. I don't know y 'all politics. I'm asking him. Please don't come for me. I don't know. I'm trying to get educated, y 'all. I got a lot to learn, too. Okay, okay. So from what I understand, I guess the prison out here is black and brown and then white. But the black and brown are segregated until it's black against white. I don't know. I'm asking. Yeah. Is that how that works? I think so. Definitely black and Mexican is like totally different things. Right, right, right. Absolutely. I understand. But over there, it's not like that. It's really whites and then blacks.

38:56You see what I'm saying? So the Mexicans and everybody are basically considered black? Right. Until it's a riot against like MS-13 and Nathaniels, or MS-13 and Southerns. Okay. But again, I'm using that as an example. I don't want nobody starting a war because I don't know who went where. I'm just using this as an example. Because I don't know who get along in the real world. But so the white dudes are what? Like skinheads and meth heads and shit? Yeah, so you guys, you know, skinhead, Aryan, what the shit, the Hitler shit? Just Nazis. Yeah, Nazi shit like that. And you're just looking at them like, I can never.

39:29I can't, because I can't relate. But you got to remember, them dudes already been in prison before I was damn near born. My whole reign in the streets with me and my people, they been in prison. So they just stuck on, so when I come in there, bitch, I'm an anomaly. Like, I'm an anomaly right now to the world who never sees somebody like me. But, like, was it the sort of thing where there's so many blacks and you're with the blacks and there's so few of these white dudes and i'm guessing that there aren't many of them who are really turned up enough to go stab you or whatever like were they trying to like do missions to like take you out the pain or what so what happened was so when you feel like i said you are who you are when you first get there right so the fact that i wasn't a chastler and i wasn't a rat you understand what i'm saying i was a man on my own ten toes those are three major aspects that saved my ass because in the beginning they was like yeah you know you can't do that.

40:16You know, we want you. And I'm in the cell. It's the shot caller. Two shot callers and they right hand man and me. Them four white boys could have killed me. But I'm expressing to them like, hey, listen, you know, because you got to have your paperwork too. That's your driver. You can't get on that compound unless you got your PSI and all your sentence and transcripts. So I got all this shit. You know, we politic and I'm saying, listen, whatever the fuck y 'all got going on. Listen, I understand it. You understand what I'm saying? But at the same time, that's not me. I ain't going to be part of that.

40:43So, listen, this is what we're going to do. We ain't going to do this shit all day. If you go with the blacks, whatever the fuck happened to you when you leave the cell, that's on you, white boy. Don't bring your ass back over here. Don't straddle that motherfucking fence. If they stab you, they kill you. Whatever the fuck. If it's a race riot, stay your ass over there. Don't come over here about no more from a commissary. Don't bring your ass over about no phone call. Leave us the fuck alone. I mean, they are racist, probably. So, they're kind of assuming that these black dudes are going to end up being shitty to you somehow.

41:13and you're going to regret that you didn't roll with us. That's what their thought process was. But like I said, I got all my pot. Because when I first come in there, they already tell them, like, listen, bro, y 'all finna have a hard time with this one. Y 'all finna have, boy, y 'all finna have a hard time with this one. Y 'all don't even understand. Like, bro, that man, the stone cold nigga. Like, that man, he, bro, I don't know what y 'all going to do. But y 'all ain't going to jump him. Y 'all ain't going to run him up top. But so did they try to do anything to you or what? No, we ended up, somehow we was cool.

41:42Like, just on speaker turn. like I'm not gonna go to they said they're not coming to my said we ain't gonna check on y 'all but we grown ass men I see you and walking you know hey what's up Chuck what's up like but I think that's what's normal in the whole thing out here too is that it's like blacks and Mexicans can totally be cool talk whatever it's just certain things I don't think you're supposed to eat together and like just little things or like and that's how it is and you definitely can't fight like that's like the main thing is that it's like if a black dude steals from a Mexican dude the black governorship basically needs to fuck that black dude up for doing something foul.

42:15That's like that over there. So real quick. It needs to be handled by the wrong people. One of my black partners, and we was in Estelle, South Carolina, he gave an MS-13 Mexican his white Air Force ones. The Mexican's supposed to give him commissary. He ain't never give him a commissary. He went back in the cell to get his shoes. Both the Mexicans jumped on him. He come to the wait yard, come get me, and all my partners go back to, because he violated, the Mexicans jumped him. It's a hands-off policy. Right. So the Mexicans go back and tell the shot callers that Ali tried to steal his shoes. Now they lying to cover up their ass.

42:48So we end up tearing the whole cell up. You know what I'm saying? We bust that shit down. That's why I got stabbed 12 times by four of them. But we ended up tearing that bitch down. By four Mexicans? Yeah, little Mexicans. Why they stabbed you? Because we end up fighting. It's a full-fledged riot now behind this situation. So, you know, they come in and spray the whole shit with Mason. We go the whole, long story short, I go to the infirmary. so what happened was the Mexicans end up killing the MS-13 because he lied and that's what they do that's the prison policy so I'm saying I agree with you on that that's how it's governor that's crazy yeah he's gonna die about that shit because you put so many people in jeopardy you feel what I'm saying you ain't have to because we have rules in place for this shit not to happen and you violate it that's crazy though that death was the penalty but you gotta kind of respect it because it keeps keeps order it keeps order and peace yeah yeah it's crazy it's crazy how like if that was just to think about that same logic being applied to the real world and how racist and wrong it would be considered but it's kind of crazy because it's like if people were just sort of left to their own devices it would be like that like if people were like that that's the thing though is that like when we were like pre like hundreds of years ago we weren't around each other like people just didn't really have access to other cultures that often but then once you're in prison it's like all these different cultures colliding in a world where like nobody has anything right that's what it is but you keep yourself busy though you know so i know right i went on to uh write like 10 movie scripts i was in prison that's what you spent your time doing for the most part i wrote books in prison.

44:27Right now, I got the number one movie comedy in my phone, script ready. Really? The number one. I'm not saying it because I'm confident or over. I got the number one movie right now in America in my phone. I'll tell you no bullshit. And you just got to find somebody to get behind it. Yeah, get behind it. I swear to God. This shit is hilarious. It's a whole world of people doing that shit in LA. Yeah. But how good are the writers? How creative are they? How much time do they sit out of society, have raw thought to put into that pen and paper? That's what separates me from me. No, I'm just saying in the sense that like that's really what you gotta do is like get somebody in Hollywood to like believe in it.

45:02Yeah. You know? Yeah. No that bit. So I originally wrote it for Will Ferrell and Kevin Hart. Yeah. That's what I wrote it for. But you know that's back then. So now you know so many other people who may be available. But yeah I got a number one comedy right now in my phone. It's gonna sell the out. It's timeless. It's family fun. It's for blacks, whites, whatever. All race, religion. Like this shit. I'm saying this comedy is hilarious from soon as it fades in till it fades out nonstop. I like it. You don't see a lot of comedy movies these days. Yeah. And you know you got a lot of you know they doing 5, 6, 7.

45:36Man bitch tired of seeing Scream 17. Fast and Furious 30. You know what I'm saying? All that old shit man. Bring something new. Yeah. What I got in my phone right now. Like Key and Peele. When the boys get behind that shit with their creativity. Man shit. 50 cent. Any one of them. Tyler Perry. Anybody. Anybody get a hold of this movie. Definitely. I promise you. So, but okay, in general, during your time locked up, were you on the straight and narrow? No. You're selling drugs? What are you doing? So back then, I was a consigliere of the compound. Okay. So I'm the mover, the shaker of the money, the bookies, you know what I'm saying, the food, the COs.

46:16They're bringing me tank tops, colognes, sunglasses. I'm selling that shit for the highest price. Beard trimmers back then was a big thing because they take the motor around tattoo. too. So that bitch priceless. That$30,$40 beard trim out in the world, man, I can say that'd be$500. You know what I'm saying? And it's non-stop. This shit is a booming era. And the hoes going back then. The bitch is going. Because when they do the same thing, like how hoes do out here. You know, hoes see you, they like you, they go to your Instagram and shit like that. Man, them hoes sit around, they be on that little computer and shit, little COs.

46:48Man, they looking your case up, they trying to see if you're a rat. They looking at your commissary. They looking at your paperwork. They looking at your selling shit. They really doing their research on you because they coming for you. So the same way that like a guy goes to a brothel and enjoys picking out a girl, the women are like effectively doing that to the prisoners? Absolutely. That's insane. Absolutely. And f***ing raw. There's no condoms in prison. What? No condoms in prison. I mean, you could wear a condom, right? I guess. I've never worn one. I guess it's hard to get an STD in prison.

47:20My celly got an STD in prison. you pretty much like have to fuck someone like a dude so me and my CO we had our own one two going my celly knew that me and her had our one two going so he wanted me to hook him up with the CO friend who worked in the pharmacy but she was fat ugly right but she gonna go he just wants to fuck it so I made it happen so now I'm fucking my CO he fucking my CO friend well she go out into the city at some Jamaican bar some shit like that and she end up somebody and the dude give her clapmydia. She come back to the prison, he fuck her because there ain't no rubber, she give him clapmydia.

47:59He wake up and tell me the next day, he burning. I gotta go back and tell my CEO to tell her friend in a pharmacy to bring them pills and cillings in the end. Well, that shit was crazy. That is wild. I mean, that's gotta like raise red flags with the fucking prison in general if they're really paying attention. Yeah, well, you know, they got SIS. But I guess there's people doing gay shit in general too, so people get STDs like that, I guess. I don't know. But really, it's like if there's no STDs in there, anyone getting an STD is a sign. Oh, it's discreet. They were f***ing somebody from the outside because otherwise, it's not like, yeah, I don't know.

48:33It's weird. But anyway, so you're doing whatever while you're in there or whatever. When does it start to creep up on you, the realization that you're going to be free? Were you at all prepared for what awaited you after 15 years of this? You're what, 35? Is that me get out? Right on the head. Okay. 35. Spent my whole 20s in that motherfucker. Right. I wasn't prepared. You weren't prepared for the real world, but what was your plan? Oh, shit, bro. I didn't have one. I just knew I wasn't going to allow me being a convicted felon to hold me back. I knew me putting all them fucking tattoos and doing prayers and shit.

49:08You understand what I'm saying? That wasn't part of my thing. I'm going to come home and be somebody. I'm going to come home and put myself back on. I'm going to come home and make sure that my name is a brand name in every household before I get done with my movement. and I came home when I stuck to it. So what year did you get home? 2015. Okay. And so you're in a halfway house for a little while? Yeah, Tampa halfway house. How was that? Sweet. Yeah? Yeah. You got a job or something? Oh, yeah. You got a car selling jobs. You know what I mean? Shit like that. You know, I came home. I had a couple Mexicans.

49:39You know, you meet people in there. Right. So I came home. I had like 10 pounds of weed and like two keys. Right away? Right as soon as I came home. Why did you not learn your lesson? When I came home, I came home to nothing. So I had to go all gas, no brakes. Otherwise, I'm not going to have nothing. So me being a stand-up guy, me not ratting on the whole city, me leaving my friends to their family to be a son, to be a father, to be a brother, that shit ain't doing me no good. Because when I came home, wasn't nobody giving me no motherfucking cookout. Bitch ain't gave me no car. Bitch ain't brought me no money.

50:11Ain't nothing for being no stand-up dude. Nothing. So I better get out here and get it. But so you weren't worried about going back to prison? that's how I'm in a halfway house they really ain't look they don't expect you to you rob a bank today you go back and rob the same bank tomorrow they just ain't expecting it right so that was my analogy but how were you able to like get back in the game just your old plug was still reliable oh no that's jamaican shopping that shit was gone but i still you was networking you know through the phone and shit like that women on the street you know shit make you know script clubs uh-huh you know shit like that doing security in the script club meet somebody holler at somebody somebody needs something same thing because consigliere service you know what I'm saying buy sell trade so you kind of like start doing crime to build up seed capital to start like legit businesses at that time not legitimate no just to survive I need a clothes I need a car I need a driver I need glasses I need soap I need you feel me like there's nothing right there's nothing you have nothing when you come home and then when you have to you do 15 years of prison there ain't no down step pro they don't put you with no psychologist they don't put you with no or psychologists to sit down and counsel you and you know you get three months of counseling before you leave man that bitch just kick you out of the door right oh you gotta be prepared for it damn so how long are you actually you know selling drugs again oh shit it took me probably about two months to get rid of all that shit okay so but that's just how you got money to get back on your feet right to get back on my feet so I could get in an apartment when I leave up out this bitch cause back then man the halfway house I mean the little job was like$12 an hour bro yeah I'm going to do with that.

51:44Right. It's 2015. That's no money. You're going to have to get government assistance and live in a shithole. Yeah. Welfare recipient. And you're going to put me right back in the ghetto. You know what I'm going to do? Go right back to what I know. And you just weren't prepared to live like that. No. I had bigger plans for myself. Right. I had to been around too many rich people. I've been around all the bosses. I done been around, you know, Willie D was my celly. Steve Madden was my celly. The shoe designer. We were taught a six week business course. Why was Steve Madden locked up? he's smart to steward all them with the with the stock oh really inside trading and shit like that i could be wrong but something like that yeah hey you're pretty cool though yeah yeah you're pretty cool yeah you're pretty cool but i had already been exposed to so much money i had been around Chinese scam and i've been around terrorists i done been around bitches with billions of dollars and they just know what to do with this shit i got amazing fucking brain right you know what i mean and i'm young they draw to me shit i draw to them you know what i mean so i'm sitting i'm learning the money, I'm learning the track, I'm trying to figure out this, figure out that.

52:42Shit, before I know that, man, I'm starting to put shit together. Now when I get to the street, now I got some money to play with. Now I can boom, boom, boom. I see this, I understand this, I got this, boom. You know what I mean? And just, shit, just start doing what I do. Yeah, no, for sure. But so, like, at what point do you, like, decide that you're going to go more of the legal route? I'm going to say my first nine months out, ten months out, because then I started catching fire with the security shit. You know what I'm saying? Like I started doing really great calls. Kodak Black was just coming out.

53:13Kole P was just coming out. Back then you had Moot Boy, Mega Moot Boy. He was just coming out. You know, these are all major Florida artists. So I started getting on the road with them. G1 to Don started booking me out to drive them and do security and all this old shit. So then now these people started seeing me on these stages and I didn't know nothing about social media, but they had Facebook was really huge when I came home. So now you got this white dude nobody's seen before and I'm on these stages and back then Pompano was popping. You know what I mean? So that shit just kind of took a fire zone and then the first person that I knew from my era was Jaheim.

53:49Jaheim booked me in my Sprinter. Went from Jaheim to Tank to Genuine to Ja Rule and it just kept popping and popping and it just non-stop. So it was about my first 9-10 months home. I knew I was going to be my own society. I knew Black Label services. I knew Black Label was going to be a household name in this industry. A brand trusted name. So people weren't calling you Black Label until you started the security company and then you called the company. Because your nickname, which I don't think we mentioned, was Black or Blackie early on. No, it's Black. So, just because you... All white and all Black neighborhood.

54:28Yeah, yeah, yeah. But so then Black Label kind of becomes your name once you call the company that? Right. Got it. Now the whole industry is calling me black or black label. Uh-huh. And then, so I started making up t-shirts. That was my promotion. So I started giving out t-shirts everywhere I went. Man, the whole city of St. Pete had them t-shirts. Right. Then over to Tampa, the little stripper girls, all them wanted to wear the t-shirts like over their little bikini or whatever when they come out and back and forth between the car and shit like that. And then I had my Instagram at the bottom.

54:56So I started picking up followers. I started picking up DMs. And back then, the strippers was the one who was putting the dudes on. Whether he was a drug dealer, whether he was a scammer, it was the Scripples who was really the glue to the money back then. So you had to unite yourself with the Scripples. I didn't mind. You feel what I'm saying? I did 15 years. I look good and shit. They f***ing with me. I'm f***ing with them. It's just together. Right. So man, that s*** just took off. And then for a while, I didn't take pictures with the celebrities. I thought it was rude or fannish. I'm not here for that.

55:26But then I started to notice like, they started like pulling to me. Like they want to f*** with me because they talk amongst themselves and they just thought that my story was unique. Of course, it's not a blast as it is today, but in the underworld of black celebratory, they're like, man, fuck with them. Good dude, you know what I'm saying? So my mission statement literally is Black Label Services prides itself on its clients' safety, image, and secrecy because the image is so stand up. There's so much integrity. There's so much built in this one man and he know how to move everywhere. It don't matter if we're in Grape Street.

56:00It don't matter when 16th Street and St. Pete. He know how to move, and people f*** with him. He got an energy. He got a vibe about him. Are you affiliated with Grape Street? No. Why you say that? Because I heard you mention them in another interview as well. Yeah, but I f***ed with them. I had them out there before. It's been a minute. I met some really cool dudes, and by me being biased, because we only burn from what we see on TV, first going out there, I was a bit not nervous, just pretentious. You see what I'm saying? Just really, really hyper-aware. You just know it's like one of the most famous housing projects.

56:33Right, right. One of the most famous. Watts, rather. Right, right. But they was all right. You know, they was, you know, no. Now you say no because respectfully, you know, I'm in their territory. But, man, they was all right. Oh, you didn't even have a connect? You just showed up? No, I went over there with an artist back then. Oh, okay. And I only can't even remember, man. That's been years ago. It was an artist that you were pushing? No, I wasn't pushing. They had me drive them and doing security. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, I wasn't pushing them. But I guess that's where he was from or maybe his grandmother stayed there.

57:01It's been 10 years. I can't even remember. But it was ironic as fuck to me to see, you know, sitting in prison watching shit and then, you know, growing up watching shit on National Geographic and actually being over there. You understand what I'm saying? There are people like, man, you know, not that you get the pass or you all right, but, you know, we understand this to be a man. He a stand-up man. He over here with, you know, such and such or such and such got him over. He got to be all right. You feel me? Like they weren't trying to run me up top. They weren't trying to come no ass, cracker, none of that shit.

57:28We just had regular conversations. Like it really wasn't no person. When I was mentioning Grape Street, I'm just saying, I know how to move over in that war zone, and I know how to move over here in Calabasas if need to. Got it. You see what I'm saying? And then that's how the celebrities and different people, that's why they fucked me. I still had to move in the crowd. So you move your operation from Florida. Your operation is in Florida still? Yeah, still. It's based out of Tampa, Florida, but it's nationwide. I go anywhere. Okay. but like how many drivers do you have? Six drivers. Okay. Yeah, we all rotate.

57:59Okay. Yeah. Most of the people like booking me, of course, you know, I'm the most like, but I'm not always around. How do you like screen the drivers? Like how do you find drivers that you really can believe in? There's a company that does it and they have their own program and whatnot, stuff like that. So I have them, you know, find my, because I don't really like people who know me to drive for me, one. Two, I don't like people who know my story to drive for me because it makes them it takes away from who they are personally because they're trying to be too cool with me to make sure they solidify the job.

58:31I don't want you to do that. You feel me? I want you to be you. Whatever your energy is, that's what the client's going to pull to. If you ain't no cool driver, you don't know how to act or you're doing disrespectful shit around these women. Yeah. Like, don't do it. So I just, you know what? I let the professional people who got, you know, a program and did, you know, tech work in school. That's what they do. You know. Got it. When I first came doing the security shit and I be trying to bring my homeboys in. I be trying to, you know, convict the felons in and try to, you know what I'm saying? Man, that motherfucker don't, it ain't work.

59:01Right. It ain't work, bro. It ain't work. Yeah. No, definitely. So, okay, at some point you just decide I need to start popping out on podcasts and shit or like did you start going up on your own social media before? So I started blowing up on social media really, really fast on doing like little skits and shit like that with the local influencers. and then once people like you know heard me talk or you know seen the quick reactions and shit like the very first one I did with uh dude named you poppy I was all getting ready for the lotto concerts I was locking my house outside I was at home depot buying you know shit for the house so I could lock my house I was on the road for like six weeks with all them on tour so he got this pipe and he uh said something on my ear real loud in the pipe so I spun around picked them up slant them put them in a chokehold and I don't know that this is a prank so that shit go viral oh shit and And then you hear me say, man, bitch, don't play it.

59:50I kid you out here. You know what I'm saying? And people heard the voice. They was like, oh. So that kind of picked up a little fire for like six months and then it died down. And then after that, I had a couple of locals, you know, hit me up for skits and shit like that. And then, man, that shit just really took a life for its own. And I started doing my own shit. Wow. So you didn't expect this? You didn't see this as like a valid thing? No. It just fell in place? This bitch just took its own. Like this bitch literally took off by itself. Right. Because America's trying to label me as transracial.

1:00:21Like Netflix wants to do a documentary on me being transracial in America. Really? Which is cool. You understand what I'm saying? But I just think that I don't title myself as transracial. I am who I am. This is the way God created. This is my uniqueness. You feel me? So that's what kind of like connect me with all these different people. I can show you my DM right now. Bro, these people be eating my ass up. Like we love your story. We love your boy. Like, man, you make my days better. Man, I was depressed. I didn't know what I had going on. you know, to hear your story, man, you know, your life way harder than mine.

1:00:49Like, it just goes on and on. Like, so many people saying, man, I'm glad you came to the forefront. I'm glad you're telling your story. I'm glad that we have somebody that's a voice in America like you who can let us know that it's okay to be me. And what everybody else talk about. Is there another version of your voice? Like, do you have, like, a white voice that you could do? I don't. This is just the only voice you've ever had? So some platforms, like just say if I do a TED talk or just say I'm on like a psychologist podcast or something, I will clean my words up so you can understand it. Right.

1:01:23Because I have to speak in the language of those who understand the language to purify the message so it gets to the person. That's always a weird moment when you're with your homie who's like hella turned up and just super like gang banged out or whatever. And then you hear them on the phone with like the bank. Right. And you're just like, oh, that's what happened to you. How we doing it? That's only happened to me like once or twice, but there's definitely moments where you're just like, oh, fuck. I didn't even know you had like a normal mode. That's crazy. So like sometimes like I just did a psychologist.

1:01:53So my podcast is Pain in the Purpose. And then it's on YouTube, Black Label Lounge. Oh, I didn't know you had a podcast. That's crazy. Yeah, I got one now. You know what I mean? So it's a really dope podcast. So I have psychologists on because I talk about relationship therapy. Right. Like helping, you know, men, women, coworkers, mothers, daughters, any type of relationship. I always give advice and people love the advice I give them. So it's relationship therapy on YouTube Black Label Lounge. So some of the panelists that I have on are, you know, college educated white women or psychologists and shit like that.

1:02:26No, I'm not up here talking, man, shit, that's just that's not the same because you got to remember. It ain't just my people watching. She's already told her her entire crowd that, you know, she's coming on this podcast. So how can I convey this message? I'm over here, you know, not being able to speak properly. so that people can hear and get the message from her side, from a male point of view, direct. So somebody, you cold switch, you cold switch. No, I want to make sure that she gets what she came for along with her audience because it's important that my message reach the people. If I pronounce an R or A.

1:02:58And you talk to a girl different than you talk to your homie. You know, this is how it is. This is how it is. If you're talking to your homies the same way that you talk to your girl when you're like cuddled up in bed at night, I mean, there's something fucking wrong with you. This is just clearly like a time for a different energy, you know? So why not like accept that people are going to do that? I mean, yeah, this makes total sense to me. But yeah, so do you feel like you have any particular like expertise when it comes to women? Or have you been successful in dating? Have you ever been married or anything like that?

1:03:28No, and you're so crazy you say that because I get ridiculed for that. You ain't been married. I was thinking that's going to be the obvious criticism. But here's the thing. Whenever you have sex with a correctional officer in a gated community, there's a crime riddle in the environment as it is, there's something different. Not every inmate is having sex, first of all. You're only a chosen few. You understand? You're only a chosen. So with that being said, I say that to say this. If you cracking the CO and you're one of the two only inmates on this compound of 2 ,500, you got enough experience to break a bitch.

1:04:02And so you understand something about a woman. Right. Enough to go back out into the land and say, hey, you know, this describes this. One of my craziest moments on my YouTube is where I'm telling the young psychiatrist that a woman, a woman's diversity in men, sometimes they have a preference, sometimes they don't. Most of the time, women like what they hear. Men like what they see. Right. So, you know, it's just, I don't know. So what is your dating life like? I don't have one. You got a whole bunch of different bops on the roster or not? I'll just be chilling. I'm just focused. Why? I like to be focused.

1:04:49I done did the shit. I done fucked 50 ,000 bitches, man. Fuck that shit, bro. You got 50 ,000 more. I guess. That'd be the case. But no, I think marriage as a whole, as a union, here's what I never understood, is why would whoever started the bullshit, listen I love you so much right Adam I love you so much not only am I going to ask you to marry me but after I do that I'm going to run to the United States government tell them who I'm in love with make them make me a receipt and then put them in my business to have half my shit when I leave who the fuck did that believe me I agree I'm married purely because I just felt like my wife was never going to be happy in life unless I'm married like it meant so much to her it meant nothing to me.

1:05:33It still doesn't mean anything to me. Now if I'm with a woman and we dated for a couple years, she wanted a union together, me, her, her family I'd give her that. Because whenever you go sign your marriage certificate was the whole entourage out there watching you sign it? You signed it by yourself, right? Well we did it in we had a whole wedding and shit. But I'm saying, how'd y 'all sign it? Did we sign something? Probably sign something. Yeah but the whole entourage didn't see you sign it. You alright? That's what I'm saying. So if we had a ceremony, don't nobody know whether we signed this certificate or not.

1:06:04That's my whole purpose. So for those who want the paper, it's destructive as fuck. For those who like to get married and be in a union, you can still go and get married in front of God. You don't have to have the paper. You can have the union. But so you are just invincible to the advances of young ladies at this point or what? Man, them young women have my ass. I mean, not even like young, but just like any woman. They have my ass. I'm just focused right now. Really? Yeah. I got these movie scripts. I got all this podcast shit going on. Man, I'm talking, they booking me all over the world right now.

1:06:36So this is a new thing. You feel like this is your moment, and therefore you don't want to be distracted. But were you still f***ing around until recent memory? Right, right, right. Where you felt like you kind of started to come up? Right, right, right. Exactly. So I had a little brawl I was dealing with. It was already on the end. You know what I mean? As it is, bitch hard-headed don't want to listen. You know, you're trying to settle down. Bitch ain't had no father. You're trying to be a father. He's trying to be a husband. He's trying to be a lover. He's trying to be a friend. Bitch, don't want to do none of us.

1:07:03It's your time to go, bro. Yeah. And you ain't even got nothing, bitch. Like, what you doing? Right. You know what I'm saying? You got an old man in front of you trying to get, you know, you right, bitch. I'm gone. Let me tour around this world and leave you the fuck alone. Because that's where my, God, so that day I walked away, this shit blew up. I ain't been home since. Really? On God. Wow. Shit is amazing. That's dope. Man, people love me. Yeah. Yeah, they love me. Amazing energy. Is that like a new realization? I guess you've always been popular. Always been. Now it's just the social media version.

1:07:33Yeah, not the social media version. You don't make up my rounds of shit. And so you feel like white people online don't fuck with you that much, but black people do? Yeah, online. Really? A lot of trolls. You would think that, you know, some, there's definitely going to be black people who don't like you, like the really woke people who are like just disgusted by it. Of course. I can see that. Yeah, me too. But the people who are really from the soil, I feel like they like when they have white people who are really respectful and appreciative of their culture. What pisses them off is someone like me, who is more white-coated, comes from a critical perspective, has opinions about everything in hip-hop.

1:08:13That pisses black people off. Right, right. No, I get it. No, you've definitely made your way around the air a few times. I've seen it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's for goddamn sure. Definitely piss black women off from time to time. And I think now I think people are starting to realize like my opinion matters. So now they're starting to pull me in and ask me my opinion on, you know, certain situations. Because that's what I was thinking is that if you're going to be like a sustained presence in the sort of like hip hop interview space slash like doing your own podcast or whatever. After a while, it kind of becomes like you have to talk about current events because it's like you've told all your best stories.

1:08:50you've commented on like you know shit in general people know where you stand on things at a certain point it becomes all right we got to talk about like what is going viral this week and i wonder what should take what's your opinion yeah are you even interested in that is that something you feel like you're like ready to get into or because i kind of feel like you're such a like og down south black dude gentleman that you're almost like nah i don't want to talk about other men well here's my, I like, in theory, I like hearing other people views because that's how you help grow your audience. And that's also how you gain knowledge by learning somebody else's wisdom, learning from somebody else's experience, learning from somebody else's ideologies.

1:09:30You know, whereas you may not, and I'm not saying you, Adam, today just in conversation, you may hate black people to your, but then you got me sitting across from you and now because I'm white and I'm black, now you starting to understand a little bit more only because the skin color is the same. But now you start relating and start being able to break down almost just because off the skin color. So now I have broken a barrier for you. I have taught you something. I gave you wisdom. I gave you knowledge. You may not accept it today because you have a podcast, but when you go home and you talk to your wife or you talk to yourself, you're like, you know what?

1:10:00My shit was a little bit fucked up. Let me back up off that. Let me go back and start sprinkling small shit in the air and redirecting my commentary. Right. Would you go meet with a Klan leader? For sure. just to sit down and have a conversation? Yeah, absolutely. I would love to. Do you think it would get aggressive or heated? Here's my theory on that. Me, personally. Once you open up your life to social media, you're succumbed to all type of shit underneath the God. You've seen it all. I know you've seen it all. So it's the same thing with me. I get called everything under the foot. As long as you don't, I can't control nothing that you say.

1:10:36You had a right under the law. If you call me anything and I smack you, I'm going to jail. I know this. You see? So if we have a diplomatic conversation and it gets disrespectful and you feel like that's how you want to feel, you want to scream and holler, I'm not going to let you control my energy. I'm not going to let you control my thought process. I'm not going to let you control my emotion. I'm going to cheer you. Whatever you say, champ, put your hands on me, though. Put your hands on me. See, in Florida, we got stand your ground in Florida. Put your hands on me. Put your hands on me. Do you feel like you get along with white people on average?

1:11:09On average, yeah. You get along with them, but would you say most of your close friends are black? Yeah. I got a couple of white dudes pretty cool. Okay. You know what I'm saying? In my circle. You know what I mean? They're pretty cool. They understand that shit. They may invite me on the boat and shit. But culturally, it just feels like you just don't have that much in common with - Culturally, yeah, I feel like. If I'm in a crowd of white people, I tend to find myself trying to find me a little corner just backing up a little bit. A bit nervous. Right. Just because they shoot shit all the time.

1:11:38They kill people. All type of shit. I don't want to be part of that. You're saying white people do that? White people do that. White people shoot people? White people. You ever seen a black mass shooter other than the D.C. dude back 20 years ago? Have you ever seen it? No, but the black community definitely makes up for it. It makes up for it, but it's not the same. Like I said in my podcast, you're not going to find a black dude making a pipe bomb. I'm just saying that your odds of dying in a mass shooting are probably less than your odds of dying because somebody's air conditioner falls out their window in New York City.

1:12:11It's just like so rare, even though it is a crazy-ass phenomenon that obviously we're all rightfully terrified by. Right. I mean, but, you know, I think 2025, by the first 10 months in October, we had over 350 mass shootings last year. Really? That's fucking it. It was all right. But the definition of, like, mass shooting is some crazy shit at this point. No. That shit was wild for that statistic. Yeah. So, you know what I mean? Again, like, you know what I'm saying? I'm doing my own thing. I'm always be alert or whatever, but I definitely find myself. I could go to an all-black club, no matter if it's the club, whatever, I'm all right right here.

1:12:43Ain't nothing going to happen right here. I'm all right. Are you, like, happier the blacker the city you're in? Like, when you're in Atlanta? Is that just, like, register as, like, this is good? I'm from Philly, Atlanta, no shit like that. You know, I'm comfortable. But how do you reckon with the fact that, like, rich black people in L.A. just moved to white areas, gated communities around a bunch of Jews? I guess that's what they wanted to do. I don't have the privilege. You wouldn't do that? What? Like if you, like, I don't know, let's say you lived out here, would you be living in Beverly Hills?

1:13:12Would you be living in Calabasas? Or are you going to go live in inglewood? It's kind of gentrified. I'm going to say, like, where my money at? I like Beverly Hills. Don't get me wrong, but I like to go to a shop. I like to go to a hang. You know, I like Rodale, right? Calabasas is beautiful for the nature, the mountains and shit like that. Inglewood is Inglewood. If I want to go, you know, live in Inglewood, I just stay in my ass in St. Petersburg, Florida. Right. You know what I'm saying? It ain't about, black is about money and wealth. You know, the wealth gonna bring you health. And who don't wanna f***ing live nice?

1:13:41You see, I was forced to live bad. Now today, I don't have to live like that. So why would I go back, you know, to my same house or my same neighborhood in Harbordale and go rent that same house? I don't need to. You see, I learned my lesson. I got wise. I got older. I got my experience. I gained my feet. I gained my footing. Now I'm able to, you know, sustain. You gotta remember, I'm a dope boy. I know my whole point was to get the f*** out. Now that I'm out, what the fuck? I'm going back in. Right. You see? Because the same shit can happen. Right. I don't want to do it. So do you get fucked up?

1:14:13What you mean? You smoke and drink? No. No. Never? No, I have. No, I've never smoked. Okay. But I drink socially. Like, you know what I'm saying? Just say, like, after this, you want to go to the bar? I have a drink or two with you, but that's it. I ain't. You don't get loaded? No. No. It's immature. I'm too old for that shit. If you got an old man who get dead ass drunk with his woman, and his woman got to babysit him or carry him home or drive, baby, you got yourself a fool. Yeah, you get yourself a baby. Yeah. Don't do no shit like that because how can you protect your woman? That's cringe to me.

1:14:42It's the craziest shit in the world. I would never. Yeah. I have. No, I have. I have. Don't be wrong. Bitch, I've been him in that theory. But, you know, I'm a little older now, so I carry myself different. Yeah, no, I have a memory of being in my late 20s and a girl like damn near having to like carry me to my bed where I was like, her driving from Hollywood to Long Beach, I'm like passed out in the backseat of her car. But that's acceptable. She's got me like under her arm like this, like walking me into my house. She's half the size of me. It was crazy. Looking back on it, it's like so embarrassing.

1:15:17Right, right. It's embarrassing. So now that we are men, you know, we don't care ourselves. How old are you now? I'm old enough to date the mama and the daughter. 50? No. You ain't hit the 50 yet? I ain't hit that yet. Just checking. But I don't know. So do you, what do you feel like you have to do to take the whole, to accomplish your goals? Because I don't know to what extent your goals are just to be successful as a content creator and a personality and stuff like that. What are your goals? Definitely smack this entertainment industry hard. Because like I said, I'm an anomaly. You know, you got streamers, you know, Ben to Don.

1:15:56You know, I'm in contact with him. You know, me and Drewski did the skit back and forth on social media and shit like that. That shit went on for a while. Adrian Bronner, we used to drink up in Cincinnati. He used to come to my little club, Spotlight Lounge. Dean, he my homeboy from Tampa. He used to go to Tampa Tech. So eventually, once this shit starts circulating, the people are like, oh yeah, let me grab him. Even with the movie script and stuff like that, or voiceovers. There's a script out there for somebody like me with a voice. There's a script out there for a rogue DEA. you know big onk at the cookout you know things like that so it's it's it's definitely gonna get bigger and better so that's my intention is just to do that get bigger and better be responsible you know and just like i said i always make sure i stay focused on turning my pain into purpose and letting people know no matter how hard it get today if you wake up there's always tomorrow you can change you can put your pain into purpose you can make your life better you know you just gotta have the strength you gotta remember i've been shot twice i was stabbed 12 times.

1:16:57That was all when you were younger? Yeah. I was paralyzed since I've been home from the waist down for like six months. Why? Car accident. Somebody hit me from the back doing 80 at like 4 o 'clock in the morning. What the fuck? And then I had my seat but I had one of them all the white you know the white van like the kidnapper vans? Yeah. I had a mobile detail. That bitch smacked that bitch like putting me in the washing machine at 80 miles an hour. Wait you flew out of the car? No I stayed in the bitch. Oh. And it's times. What the fuck? Broke my back all the fuck. I was like six months paralyzed with that shit.

1:17:27God put me back on my feet. Last Thanksgiving, they gave me an hour to live, told me to make my phone calls. I had two blood clots in my heart, didn't even know it. What the fuck? So I'm here for a reason. Pain and a purpose. It's a reason I'm still here. That's why I want to breach the mass. I want to tell these people, like, bro, I don't give a fuck if you two or 222, you have a purpose in life. If you understand who you are and where you're going, I don't give a fuck how hard that shit get in life. You have to wake up every single day and know, bitch, it's you who are going to make us better.

1:17:58It's your goddamn energy. It's your positivity. It's up to you to do bad or do good. It's going to change. It's going to get better. But it's up to the person. What the f*** can you withstand? Right. I can withstand a lot. A lot of people. 15 years in prison. That's a long time to have patience. Yeah. That's a long time to understand politics. How does that make you feel when you look back at the fact that you spent most of your youth? I'm discontent with it. I don't like it. It's terrible. Because those same mistakes that I made as an adolescent affect me to this day. I can't get a job. I try to get a Twit card.

1:18:32You know the Twit card? No. Security for ports and airports so we can pull up and, you know, pick up packages like in a medical courier and then take them off, you know, the port and go deliver them. Fed say, man, bitch, we're not giving you no Twit card. We're not giving you no pass. Wow. F*** wrong with you because they're the ones who, you know, they won't even give me a Twit card. So how are you expected to get a job as a felon? That's what I'm trying to say. That's why I have to be an entrepreneur. That's why I do black truck services. That's why I provide the security and things. And I have to be an entrepreneur.

1:19:04Like, you know, I don't get like that is a major, major felonies on my record. Right. And this is federal. I'm never going to be nothing in society unless I make myself into something. Right. And I'm too large to be at Walmart. I'm too large to be at Winn-Dixie. I'm too large to be at Sam's Club. My personality too big. My life too great. But this is who people say I'm arrogant. No, bitch, if I'm not rooting for me, I'm waiting on you to root for me. I look like I'm a root for me. I better. Shit, if you know what I know, look at all the shit I've been through. I better come out on top. Shit. I like it, man.

1:19:44Black label, man. So what do you have coming up? What do you want people to look out for if they're intrigued and staying on point with what you got coming out? Man, that podcast is just amazing. Black Label Lounge, YouTube, and then the movie scripts. And y 'all look for me for streaming. We're going to start streaming here pretty soon. Like I said, after this, I'm pretty sure it's up from here. I feel it. Yeah, everybody's just going to tune in. I'd love to be part of the whole thing coming together. Yeah, I would definitely love you to be part of. It's my honor that I'm even on here. like I've been watching I've been f***ing with you like you know what I'm saying like I said I know there's been a lot of ups and downs and s*** for you but you ain't never met a n***a like me so here I go that's a fact that's a big fact you feel what I'm saying although I do feel like I have like a pretty wild collection of black coated white boys over the years Jin Lee out of Texas okay yeah I know Jin Lee with all the tattoos yeah yeah yeah Jin Lee he was f***ing with a case like six years ago he was?

1:20:41a f***ing with a huge case oh really? he was trying to railroad oh yeah yeah yeah I remember that I think he told me about that yeah yeah yeah Damn, I thought he made it. No, yeah. Damn, Jim. Yeah. But listen, I'm not the only white boy. Don't get me wrong. I never profess to be only white boy in America. It's some white boys out there to eat your face off. It's some white boys who in the woods of Kentucky, they don't talk like me. Right. Who get dead on your ass. Black or white. Gangnam or not. It's some white boys in Seattle. You know, we just ain't in Texas. We just ain't in Florida. We not just in the line.

1:21:11It's some. But when I give these spills, I be having a ton of white boys get dead on my ass. Like, bro, man, I appreciate you. I was thinking like I'm the only person because they don't get out in the world. You know, it just so happened is my time, my shine, my grind. My footwork got me here today. So now I'm able to give back to the people and be the voice for the people. Same thing, man. Stick to who you are. Stand on it. Be true. Is you going to get crucified? Sure the fuck is. But you know what? At the end of the day, it's all about you. You got the power to believe and change your energy.

1:21:40Be positive. Wake up. Stand on that shit because I'm going to die about mine. Y 'all heard him. There it is. I feel like Black Label got big things to come, man. I do. Hell yeah. I fuck with you. Appreciate it, though. Yeah, for real, bro. Thanks for the conversation. It was a great time, man. It was great, man. Much respect, and let's do some more stuff in the future for sure. Let's do it. Let's do it. Run these numbers, bro. Ooh. Black Label 20 versus 1. They reached out to you, bro. That you? Yeah. Damn. I just ain't did this yet. I ain't slowed down yet. You gotta do that. We gonna do that right here in the studio.

1:22:09All them Cali Ballet girls. I wanna be a part of that, yeah. Yeah, all them Cali. Let's do it right here in the studio. Let's go. Let's go. For sure. Yes, sir. Black Label, appreciate you, man. Yes, sir. Love, bro. Double Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. Check us out on YouTube, TikTok, Instagram. Like, comment, and subscribe. And shout out to our members who got to see this first. Let's go.