Blind Leading The Blind Episode #1 featuring Munchie B

27 Aug 2026 · 33 min · 13 chapters

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In short

“Blind Leading The Blind” Episode #1 is a candid conversation with Munchie B about dating/true love fears approaching 50, bipolar disorder and alcohol’s role in relationship instability, and his rise on No Jumper via “clip” culture and confrontational on-camera moments. It also addresses online rumors about Josh/No Jumper (casting couch, metaverse conspiracies) and “pillow talking gate” involving Jaleese and other narrative claims.

Guest (Munchie B) background

47, formerly married for 84 days (impulsive wedding; mutual divorce; “hot and cold” fear of abandonment). Says he had undiagnosed bipolar and drank daily during a past relationship; later had about 57 days sobriety.

Key claims

He’s seeking true love but feels late in the game; alcohol helps him become “extra” for clips but worsens mental health/relationships; he believes online narratives (including casting couch and pillow-talking) are timeline-mismatched and exaggerated.

Notable examples

The 84-day wedding in Long Beach (Jordans/cargo shorts, mobile priest); “Almighty Suspect” moment involving a “flick of the titty” as calculated for reactions; Jaleese appearing on Adam &22; rumors about his return timing and alleged info shared; he denies romantic/physical involvement with Jaleese and says she intentionally fueled narratives.

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Chapters

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Munchie B's Life Reflections

0:03 to 0:31

Munchie shares thoughts on turning 47 and the search for love.

“For 125 years, Nordstrom has been part of your story.”

Munchie B's Life Reflections

1:03 to 2:16

Munchie shares thoughts on turning 47 and the search for love.

“It's the blind leading the blind with Munchie B.”

Challenges in the No Jumper Environment

2:16 to 2:58

Discussion on feeling out of place among younger guests and peers.

“So it's just like, just overthinking in that regard.”

Impulsive Decisions in Relationships

2:58 to 5:30

Munchie recounts his short marriage and lessons learned.

“I ain't the youngest nigga in the room no more.”

Mental Health and Sobriety

5:30 to 7:50

The conversation shifts to mental health struggles and sobriety.

“though, maybe you're just going to end up being a single dude, man, and that could be cool.”

Fashion, Aging, and Self-Image

7:50 to 8:52

Munchie discusses fashion updates and self-perception as he ages.

“It can't just be a regular Tuesday at 3 o 'clock and you're tipping the bottle.”

Navigating Podcasting and Performance Pressure

8:52 to 14:03

Discussion on the dynamics of podcasting and expectations in content creation.

“I appreciate you sharing the game with me.”

Navigating Podcasting Dynamics

14:03 to 18:15

Learn about the intricacies of expressing thoughts and managing on-camera persona.

“So it's really a tool for me to just turn into, like, a Super Saiyan or turn into a Hulk just like in that moment because I know it's going to read well on camera.”

Addressing Rumors and Relationships

18:15 to 19:18

Insights into the dynamics of personal relationships within the podcast environment.

“Nah, I've been taking a page out of your book, Munchie, so I don't think that's falling on deaf ears.”

Clarifying Misunderstandings with Jaleese

19:18 to 22:06

Discussion on misconceptions regarding friendships and professional boundaries.

“I know you spent some time with Jaleese outside of work.”
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The Impact of Narrative in Media

22:06 to 27:28

Exploration of how narratives shape perceptions in the media landscape.

“and said, Josh, going back to that BRTCH, and she didn't want to go, she wasn't calling me to, I was around it.”

Conversations and Privacy in the Spotlight

27:28 to 28:05

Discussing the challenges of privacy in personal conversations and media exposure.

Navigating Trust and Communication

28:05 to 31:51

Exploring the complexities of sharing personal information and trust among friends.

“I've never seen anywhere where Jaleesa lives.”
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1:00with Munchie B. What's the big old deal? It's the blind leading the blind with Munchie B. You know how I go around this snow jumper building it could be a little chaotic at times you know I mean so we're gonna have different people drop through I'm express my grievance with them share their problems with me and we gonna figure it all out you know I'm saying the blind leading the blind let's go. Dope boy man what's the big old deal? What's the good old deal my brother how How you feeling today, man? Aw, man, I'm cooling like an AC. You? Man, I'm good, man. You know, life is moving rapidly for me, man.

1:37I got a 47th birthday coming up in a couple of weeks, man. And I don't really know how to feel about it, man. I don't know if I'm where I want to be in life overall, man. So I'm stressing out a little bit about it, but trying not to overthink it too much. So what's your biggest, you know, concern going into the 47th chapter? That I haven't found true love yet. I feel like true love has evaded me for the majority of my life. A lot of it self-induced. I've been an asshole and a jerk in a lot of the good relationships that I've been in. And now I kind of just feel like I'm so late in the game. I feel like when you my age, it's like you settling for whatever you get.

2:13Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm about to say high to 50 in a couple years. Like, you know what I'm saying? So it's just like, just overthinking in that regard. Like, where's my true love? Where's my, you know, my lady at? Okay, approaching 50, do you think the no jumper environment probably set you back? Everybody around here pretty much on Playboy time. You got Plug Talk cracking off in one room. You got this dude saying he, do you feel like you got to keep up with the Joneses almost? A little bit. I do feel like that because like, you know what I'm saying? It's just, it's a lot of younger cats here.

2:46Like, you know what I'm saying? So it's easy to kind of fall into that and kind of like fall into some of my older ways. but I'm just like, though, you damn near unstatus, man. If I'm not unstatus already, I know I've been fighting it for a really, really long time, but it's like I got to embrace that part about, you know, that part of the game, man. I ain't the youngest nigga in the room no more. Okay. You also expressed in the past that you meet a female Monday, being loved by Friday. Young cats really don't move that way. They kind of dip and go. You know what I mean? They hit and go. So, you know that's conflicting, right?

3:18I understand that, man. I'm trying to find a happy balance between meeting the chick and telling I love her on the fourth time I didn't talk to her. And then just trying to figure out, like, let's get to know each other. Like, let's see if we even like the same things. Do we even get together and vibe on a friend frequency type of vibe? Like, you know, I go zero to 100 real quick, Munchie. Real quick. Okay, you're a puzzle because you also told me in the past that you was married for 84 days. 84 days. They were calling me Doughboy Kardashian in the streets. It was messed up because at the reception I should have known that the well, okay.

3:52Oh, you had a whole big ceremony Okay, can I be honest with you? Right. It was like a wedding that was kind of like based off an impulse I should have known that the wedding wasn't gonna work because I got married in some team Jordans There wasn't even regular Jordans. I had some cargo shorts on I freestyled my got married some cargo shorts and some Jordans Yeah at a park in Long Beach And it was like a mo we had a mobile priest and the mobile priest that came there and there was like a quinceanera like right next to our little spot that kept kicking the soccer ball. Okay okay okay I ain't gonna put it so much on the ceremony but why did it last 84 days bro?

4:25I just don't think that I was really ready to be married I think I was just doing it because I thought that I needed to do it we had been off and on for like five six years and I just was just like man it's time so I think I was kind of being impulsive like I'm kind of being now. So you filed the papers or she filed the papers for the divorce? It was kind of like a mutual thing. Like neither one of us kind of like really, you know what I'm saying? It just, we kind of knew the love was gone. So what was our biggest complaint about you though? I was always hot and cold in the relationship. One day I'd be cool and everything was love and it was a vibe.

4:57And then the next minute I'd be one out of the relationship. Because I got a fear of abandonment, man. I got a fear like I'm just going to be alone, munchie. It keeps me up at night, fully clothed in the shower.

5:09Come on, bro. Tell me that was a figure of speech. Fully clothed in the truck. Hey, bro, we got to, bro. It's not crying if you're in the shower, right? Fully clothed in the issue. That's crazy. Nah, man, but I just be thinking about that. Like, man, like, I'm just, you know, I'm just conflicted at this stage in my life because I'm just like, man, I just, and then a part of me just be like, though, maybe you're just going to end up being a single dude, man, and that could be cool. Like, you know what I'm saying? I could just get old and, you know, wait for grandkids and just be the cool little grandpa dude.

5:42But I don't know if I'm gonna find true love in it. It keeps me up at night, man. It makes me sad. I wake up in cold sweats. I'm gonna tell you this, because I know you went on a sobriety ground for a cool minute. Yep, had about 57 days. Okay. And you said you been hot and cold? Hot and cold, yeah. Okay. Now, what I do know, you know, you tackling some mental health issues bipolar bipolar and alcohol don't help that it does not it don't help that so if you was using alcohol during this relationship maybe that was the issue yeah i think that it was because i wasn't even diagnosed back at the time this is about like 10 12 years ago at this point right but um i think i was undiagnosed bipolar at that time and i definitely feel like that was a manic episode because i was drinking every day back then well i'm gonna keep it funky with you bro you gotta kick the cup the bottle or whatever it come in right for a fruit so so you could be a level level level headache 100 does it have to be 100 or can i do it here and there a smidge i think it need to be an understanding with you and your your your significant other that i'm about to take a drink today you know what i'm saying right no i'm saying don't make it a regular thing like you know all through the week and just you know i'm saying you tipping a bottle because it's gonna hinder your relationship and then you're gonna be 50 60 years old by yourself i don't want to be 50 60 by myself so you got to kick the cup or the bottle you know i mean or or or the bottle bro but other than that man hey you've been uh trending upwards i can say that though i appreciate that i've been trying hard you've been trying to work on the wardrobe and all that yeah you know what i'm saying got the daredevil shirt today i mean the pink wasn't a great success last week but i'm gonna run it back i got a couple different top yeah looking like jiggly puff wasn't it yeah they was there they was calling me kirby like you know what i'm saying i was getting a look It said I looked like a big ol' blob of chewed gum.

7:31It was in there just getting on me. You're going to be all right, though, but you got to kick the cup, man. Man, that's easier said than done, man. Yeah, but you got to have your cheat days, like your birthday coming up. I'm going in. You know we're going in for the live stream. It ain't going up like gas prices or everything. So, you know what I'm saying? Kick the cup, man. That's going to be enough, I believe. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's just for special occasions and what have you. Not every day. It can't just be a regular Tuesday at 3 o 'clock and you're tipping the bottle. That's counterproductive.

7:57But if it's a birthday, you know what I'm saying? That part. And then, like we said, we're going to get with Jess West and we're going to do the Doughboy makeover. What do you think I need to work on most? We're going to get you dope. I be feeling like my outfits be flamed. Yeah, but you, no. Wait, huh? I mean, last week, it was close but no cigar. But you working on it, though, man. I got the Daredevil shirt now, man, with the Nikes to match. Man, you ain't got to listen to Adam. If you want some little faith over fear, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. Ain't nobody listen to this atheist ass.

8:29Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I do my own thing. But no, kick the cup, man, that's going to be enough, man, and we're going to get your drip up and it's going to, you know what I'm saying? So kick the cup, get the drip, and then we get the chicks. Yeah, man. Okay. But you almost 50, don't worry about the chicks, worry about the chicks. You ain't got to say that that loud, man. Come on, bro, you almost 50. I don't hate that. But you're going to be all right, though, B-T. I appreciate you, man. I appreciate it, man. All the time. I appreciate you sharing the game with me. and I'm applied, man.

8:57The next time I come to Blindly and the Blind, man, we're going to have a success story out of this thing. That part, man. It's the Blindly and the Blind. There we go. It's the Blindly and the Blind, man. Hey, what's up, Munchie B? Oh, man. Not too much. Not too much. But I have to summons you, man. You really? What'd I do? What'd I do this time? Not so much of a concern, but a grievance. You know what I mean? Okay, okay. All right. Coming in to the No Jumper Foundation, you came in kind of hot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And growing to know you, you know what I mean? Say what you're going to say. Hold on, hold on.

9:37I'm trying to get it right. All right. Because I noticed certain things, but the thing that really got my attention, Almighty Suspect Going Away thing, the flick of the titty, the doughboy. I'll be making jokes. Yeah. And that's your bag. nigga was on what oh my god hey man stop touching me bro like come on bro like don't touch me don't touch me bro don't touch me my

10:14now what i was trying to figure out now that i'm paying a little bit more attention oh no What was that you trying to earn your spot? Clout? Alcohol driven? What was that? Realistically, it's a combination of all three of those things. You know what's crazy about that whole thing is that I, as crazy and as AEO as that sounds, I've been playing that shit for weeks. Like, I've been, like, I'm fucking calculating with this shit. So I seen Moose, Adam, and Doughboy going on a hike. And I was like, ooh, these niggas got titties. Ooh, these niggas got titties. Ooh, these niggas got titties. Ooh, these niggas got titties.

10:53Ooh, ooh, these niggas got titties. And so I'm like, it popped in my brain back then. And so that night, I didn't come in there. All I did was like, I'm gonna bring a bottle because I know I'm gonna be crazy. I know if I bring a full bottle of Henny, something's gonna happen. Like, I already know myself. And so that's basically what happened. It was really like, if Doughboy would've never showed up, it would've been a completely different stream. It wasn't even so personal, but he just like, I was there and he was here. What can I say? It was like I was going 100 miles per hour. He just happened to be crossing an intersection and just got clipped.

11:27And that's really what it was. So coming in, did you feel like you had to perform a certain way? You got a certain expectation to be a certain way, a character or something like that? No, for sure. Because I'm coming off of streaming. I'm coming off of desktop streaming and IRL streaming. So it's like clips, clips, clips, clips, clips. So I'm coming in as a fake podcaster. I don't even know what I'm doing. I'm coming in just like I got to get a moment. So every time I'm coming in, whether it's a shirt or some crazy shit, I say, or the alcohol or whatever, I'm coming in like if I don't get a clip, I failed.

11:58You know, some people are a little more smooth with it. They can just they're just viral by design. Me, I got to try a little bit harder. So I got I have to make these moments. So I was that's always been my thing. So for me, with all my streams, I'm just trying to, like, push the boundaries. Get even if I got to say something that's crazy as fuck just to get the reaction. because people often don't know how to react in that moment when you say something where it's live they can't edit it out and so i always find humor in catching people off guard all right find that pocket yeah yeah no no no but i could say uh you you settled in it got more comfortable you know i mean i i could tell it i could tell the difference yeah they weren't really letting me in i had to really force my way in like pause but i really had to kick the door down for real because they people it wasn't really here is like they don't really praise you and say good job or I'll call you got a really it's a real manual until they with you unless they you off rip so if they don't you you kind of got to like earn your way in and make your mark otherwise you might not even hear from Josh if I don't hit up Josh on Sunday I don't know if I'm gonna be on the news next week so progress report card around they're not they're not holding your hand over here so it's like either you're here and doing it or you're not and so people can say whatever but I've just been grinding, to say the least.

13:10We've been in potting a few times, quite a few times now. What I noticed, you a little aggressive off that car. Now, I'm not one to talk. I'm talking to you. You are a good podcaster who comes in and gets blackout drunk for no reason every time. It's holding you back. Stop doing this. You're not invited on this podcast and you're going to keep showing up wasted. No, no, no. because because i i've been hitting much a couple times and i mean i don't have some some some bad days and some some good henny days but you know so so do you do you agree to you a little more aggressive off the off the drink yeah i think um with anything like if you drink you're going to become more anything whether it's animated whether it can even be quiet if you're drunk so am i aggressive not off henny yes i'm i'm very confrontational um especially when it's something I believe in a lot of shit I don't really care about so I think that's why I catch people off guard because I'm usually chill but if it's something I've been that same maybe I think I just drag it more off the Henny but I'm not I'm not I'm the same person sober but I just drag it more I just keep going I'm gonna pull out all the extras I'm gonna say every joke you know off the Henny instead of just like but so yeah I'm definitely more I'm more extra off the Henny that's what it is but it's still me though I'm not like I don't drink it to like get the courage I already had the courage.

14:32Yeah, I'm just, I'm drinking it because I know that it's going to, instead of my one-minute clip where I just cut you down in one second, the Henny's going to make me turn that into a five-minute segment, and that's what I'm going for. So it's really a tool for me to just turn into, like, a Super Saiyan or turn into a Hulk just like in that moment because I know it's going to read well on camera. Consequences might come. That's what I'm trying to, like, figure out the thing, but I try to choose my targets strategically. But you never know. You never underestimate anybody. Sorry. As far as starter Kyle on podcasting now, nah, nah, you settled in like a pilgrim.

15:07You know what I'm saying? But my advice be, it seemed like you might be thinking something, and you're going to hold it in. And I think you should say it at that moment. I might be wrong. I don't watch every segment of No Jumper. Yeah. But you kind of exploded on less today, and it seemed like you was probably holding that in. You know what I mean? It's all happening in real time. it's all the past weeks like i really don't really hold back i think i'm just on camera with us the past week i know it should happen in the past week like the whole like him trying to say i'm a dragon i and it's really only content for me like really dragonite man you an unofficial cast no no for real it's like it's like it's like he's trying to like say i'm some sort of liar when it's like that's your like that's what you've been doing you've been saying one thing and another and i'm sure he's very transparent in other ways i wasn't trying to come out like that but it's like it's all in real time it's like it's not like something that happened like four months ago and i'm like saying it now it's like this happened last week and i'm just getting the opportunity to speak about it now because i haven't been on since last week but i'm talking about this every day on my stream so um hey you know what i'm saying like but i do sometimes i do hold back because i i'm trying to think a couple steps ahead like okay if i say this then this could happen this guy but this could happen so there is that element of that with lush i don't think i've hold back i've held back and i feel like i've been sympathetic to lush until he tried to throw me under the bus and now I don't know like it's content it's content like now I'm just gonna be so nice like now I don't give a fuck you know I was trying to uh not that it's trying to spare because that gives some sort of like power or uh dominance I'm just saying it's just like you know I might give you the benefit of doubt now I'm gonna like say yeah like hey Munchie might be right yeah no you broke it down actually yeah it's like you you be sitting on shit then you know it might come out at the wrong time it might come out wrong yeah I mean you know and I feel that if the timing is everything and sometimes timing has it makes things hit a little bit different so that's that that can be a thing and that's kind of something I struggle with too is just like people more that people don't expect me to blow up and they just don't know me to blow up but it's like no that's been my whole life so it's kind of like because I come in I come in cool cool cool cool cool and then I strike and it's like nah I've been doing this you just haven't seen it yet because I've been cool there's been no reason to and that's one thing that I hope that people understand is that i'm not just a crash out just for the clips like if i'm crashing out i really probably have something that is i'm attaching it to it's very hard for me to really crash out when i don't care it's gonna be lame people gonna be like it's corny it's cringe and what people resonate to is really when i have something that i'm really trying to say and i don't really like to waste words and be redundant and repeat shit a million times like like i'm gonna type listen to me the first time and then if you don't it's like we might have problems because i'm like i'm not really trying to repeat myself so it is what it is but you know you be the smart person bro he broke down he broke down doughboys alcoholism in real time i'm like my mind is blown it's like did he tell you too because i didn't know because you showed up when you showed up so i'm like damn you be people getting bro no no no no no i rock with you though bro man my only advice hey don't sit on it man whenever somebody just you know what i'm saying if if it fit the time you know just go ahead and let it out then because you you let it go it's gonna play out crazy on camera because the viewers are gonna be like what is he talking about and and you reaching back to something three weeks ago.

18:14Like, you feel me? Nah, I've been taking a page out of your book, Munchie, so I don't think that's falling on deaf ears. You know what I'm saying? Like, I hear what you're saying, and I've been peeping how you find your pockets to call things out, and when you choose to, and what you choose to, because it makes the content, and it's the truth. You know what I'm saying? So it means you're paying attention. If you can call somebody out when they're going on a rant, you can pull something out, it means you're paying attention. Some people are just waiting for their moment to talk, but if you could, like, pull the truth out of it, in a sincere way i think that's the that's that's good podcasting so that's what i'm trying to to strive to be i'm trying to get the s tier quality of potting so it is what it is hey man hey thanks for uh hollering at me man yeah everything man but no i rock with you though you you you doing your stuff i can't wait to do some content with you oh yeah we gonna get it in man yeah yep it's the blind in the blonde josh what's going on munchie the blue face of the building so they so they say I like that one that's better than some of the other nicknames that thrown around there but I'll take the blue face of the building yeah so you know you know all the metaverse rumors conspiracies of Josh and how his res go with the women they got this this this casting couch they believe you got they say maybe you using your position to get the ladies what do you say to them throwing things out there like that you know I really do wish some people could see like some more context to these storylines that they're putting out there you know man the whole casting couch thing is it's funny these uh these reddit narratives and online narratives they got going on i find it entertaining as hell i'm laughing my ass off like i think that the guys in the office think it's funny too because they see you know what it really is and like the timeline doesn't necessarily add up to me you know being interested in some girls and then getting them On usually it's, you know, I have, we're busy guys.

20:25We work a lot here. You know what I mean? When we say timeline. Yeah. Okay. I know you spent some time with Jaleese outside of work. So when you say timeline, I would say she's able to fit into that schedule. So once in a while, we go to the bunk that you never spanked Jaleese down. There was never anything romantic between me and Jaleese. Not one single time. that was the you know was is the homie I'll be super real with you I we haven't talked in probably a month or so since last time she was in town but yeah for like the better part of a year that's been you know one of my good homies who I talked to pretty regularly we've had you know we had a lot of conversations about being you know single parents in you know in this industry in this world where everything we do is under a microscope.

21:17And, you know, we were able to connect on a lot of those things. And that is a good friend of mine and is controversial as she is on camera. She likes to bring as much of that off-camera stuff to the light as well to create controversy and keep narratives building. And she's great at that. She's really good at story building. but no, there was never anything romantic or physical involved with me and Jalees at any point. Despite what you and some of the other people here have believed or pushed out there, there was nothing. So y 'all was close to where y 'all had personal talks and y 'all confided in each other.

22:00Y 'all was that comfortable with each other, right? Yeah, we confided in each other with a lot of things that were going on in our lives. So could you blame people for thinking that something was going on when she crashed the Adam and Wax show and said, Josh, going back to that BRTCH, and she didn't want to go, she wasn't calling me to, I was around it. Could you blame people that kind of look away, right? Yeah, and like, I think I was probably just as shocked as everybody else to see her pop up that day on the show. And did I have her blocked at that moment? Yes. Was my ex, the person I was involved with at that time, really bitter and probably jealous of Jalees.

22:44I think so too but I think that Jalees was doing that intentionally. I think that you know as a friend I got put into a situation much it's like do I look mad about it like something is actually happening and like try to like get that shit like deleted and whatever or do I play it cool and just like whatever it's nothing it's nothing for anyone to worry about but it's like she definitely made the most of it and made to look a certain way and yeah it was not great for me in that moment but if I'm being totally real it did the results kind of mapped out to be what they should have been and kind of got me out of a situation I didn't really want to be in need to be in okay so she indirectly uh helped you out in that so so that ended up being a true statement but if y 'all that comfortable with each other how much other stuff is true because the asterisk thing you know i mean now acting like asterisk uh effing our way to the top and uh like like what like is that another episode of y 'all confining each other you know and that's a funny thing too is because i did confide in julissa law in the moments where she did you know post those original videos of us and my ex uh at that well my girl at that time, ex-now, whatever, like, she did, like, that did piss her off, and she did it for that, but the stuff with Astrid, I felt like, Astrid was a homie, we were kicking it for a little bit, it was definitely a different scenario than, like, what me and Jaleese have, that's for sure, but she was cool, we were, there was nothing serious going on, it was, we were just hanging out for a little while, and I think Jaleese paid attention again to, like, what the online narratives were building around between me and her and she made her own assumptions about things and felt as though maybe astrid was not that talented and i think she maybe saw another female up here in her in the spot where there's only a few females and thought man this is a girl that don't got it and is just utilizing you know using me for that opportunity and she took it upon herself That was not based on any conversations that me and Jaleese had.

24:53She really just kind of went for that on her own. Astro Kid, stop sleeping with Josh to sit on the panel. You have no wordplay, you have no substance, you don't even make sense. You know, what transpired after that transpired where now, you know, she put whatever, you know, more videos of us hanging out out. I probably only kicked it with Jaleese like maybe twice in the last like six months when she's in town. and it's all homie shit. We're never alone. There's always other people there. So it's like it's been pretty chill. But I think what gets posted and what is built off of that is pretty deliberate on her part.

25:34I think she's making it look a certain type of way. Pillow talking gate, right?

25:42I departed from No Jumper for a very short time and I was on my way back to No Jumper, right? didn't nobody know that and she got on the internet said this tuesday munchie b x y z x y z and adam like how does she know that i said josh munchie b you will be at no jumper on tuesday next week because you came back to no jumper because you got a higher pay you're coming back to no jumper so is it morals over money or is it money over morals because at this point it's money over morals i'm done conforming to your program and so you know so i'm saying like what's going on and i can totally understand like why you would uh you know connect those dots how it would look a certain type of way but i'll be so real like we me and julise were probably having caught like we were that's probably the last time we hung out and she had asked me at one point you and sporty had just departed, been like a few weeks, and she asked me, like, do you think Munchie and Smote will ever come back?

26:44And what I told her, like, verbatim, word for word, was I think everybody eventually comes back if there was no real reason to depart, and it's nothing that couldn't be discussed, or like, where the two sides couldn't come together, and I didn't think there was any real beef between us and you and why you left, and, you know, it was a moment, but yeah, I said, yeah sure Munchie will be back I didn't tell her when I didn't tell her why there were some other members of the cast that were also privy to this information who I know also talked to Jalees so I do understand where this information could have come from outside of me but I'm not going to hear going to throw any accusations towards anybody else's name because I know I didn't tell her but she did definitely have pretty specific details about your return that you wouldn't have known otherwise but I know that I for sure I never told her and there okay last installment of pillow pillow talking gate okay now I brought to your attention that I was talking to a young lady from Sacramento her hometown she she she claimed she was privy to some things you know I mean like you helped her move into this spot out here and x y and z and you know places she live her situation with different things you know I'm saying yeah most definitely Josh Delwater right so I let you know I was gonna put that out by my I changed my mind you know I mean yeah no so as I hung up the phone to the wee wee hours of the morning she was doing a video yeah see and that's the thing with Jalees too is I feel it's like kind of like any type of conversation I have with her it does tend to end up being aired out one way or another and when you had told me this there was actually like a few times you would kind of mention like yo i had some information on you but i decided not to put it out for whatever reason i fucked with you blah blah blah and i was like all right cool but also like what info you got because i don't really got anything to hide so you know we had our conversation you told me about you know hey there's this girl that's close with jaleesh she said she saw you or you she was around when you were helping her move jaleesh move into a place and all these other things and i'm like well that couldn't be fucking further from the truth.

29:00I've never seen anywhere where Jaleesa lives. I've never been to any of her spots or if she's out here for like, you know, at a staying at an Airbnb, I'd like never been to any of these places. So like, I couldn't, I don't know where I would have been seen when I just for sure was not helping him move anyone's furniture. And so like, that just felt so like at a place that I was like, damn. But yeah, you know, you're having this conversation with me about somebody else talking about us and Jaleese was you know the other person who was being talked about so in that moment was I thinking I was pillow talking is I didn't really feel that way I felt like more so that hey there's narratives being put out about us it's about us so whatever information I have I'm going to share with you granted like in hindsight I feel like I've learned through this whole thing that not everything I know needs to be shared with other people and there's certainly a risk to that uh you know talking to some people that they can't be trusted not to run to the internet and put that story out and put whatever twist they want on and so you know was I it probably was if Jules was here and you were here I would have told her in person like and would have had you like there to confirm deny anything because I don't think I was trying to hide this or like pillow talk or keep anything secret.

30:19But yeah, was I giving her information that you were sharing with me? Sure. And should have that been confidential and been between the two of us in hindsight? Yeah, I think I definitely should have, you know, just kept that one to myself knowing that this is not anything true and it's not anything I had to worry about. So no, I can admit some like, you know, I don't think I did anything wrong or malicious, but I definitely didn't think about maybe what I was doing when I was doing it and who I was saying what to. Yeah, overstood, overstood. So I think you learned the lesson in itself. You kids can't really confine it hurt with things because it's going to end up on the Internet.

30:57You know what I mean? Period. Yeah, you know, it's like, you know, I think we'd have conversations before and you'd kind of told me that like not every person and homie is like the type of homie you want to share everything with because there is a big risk to your business being brought out to the Internet. And like as much as I love Jaleesa's a homie and everything, like she has definitely put my business out there more so than I ever intended to. Like I've kept all my all my personal shit. Like I try to keep it off the Internet. It's there's a lot of other people who are interested in bringing it on there, but it's not my intention at all.

31:36Yeah, man. But it was cool to clear the air because I was holding a little grass-like, pillow-talking-ass, blue-faced-ass Josh. You feel me? But, no, that's all good, man. We did it up, man. Stop blinding the blind, man. No, I think you have a really dope-ass thing going here with this, and I think there's a lot of stuff that you can help uncover and walk through with everybody here. And I'm excited to do more of these. You know, I think, man, we all got our own issues and stuff here that I think could do, could definitely deal with some good breakdowns and diagnosis from, you know, the doctor himself here.

32:15So I appreciate you leading me in the right direction with this, won't you? Man, likewise for us, you know, sitting down with me, man. Of course. Yep, and we out of here. Dude, this is so good. The weed, we have to get in. This little corner gets so hot. Thank you.

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