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18:45K Mac:Out of all the ignorant shit I've done in my life, letting a random 25 year old college girl shoot my dick up with some random shit i don't even know what it is she twisted the needle fuck wait did she break it i don't know i didn't even check if my dick was bleeding oh okay she had to touch it though huh not really no i was completely soft and basically like i took my penis and kind of like held it and just like at the very base of it like almost like your your fat pouch she shot it into that area right there now i'm gonna be real with you so all right it did work and i'm gonna tell you guys about it but so clav is basically a guy who started going viral maybe six months ago he's a white boy from jersey originally and as a young dude he became obsessed with the looks maxing community which is basically like an online community of people who are of men who are obsessed with basically trying to become as good looking as possible because they have the belief that your outcomes in life are very much going to be determined by the extent to which you are good looking so in other words i think we've all kind of had the experience where maybe you holler at a girl and you're trying to talk to her and maybe you're a good looking guy.

20:06K Mac:So she's appreciative and communicates with you. But then if you gained a hundred pounds or you gained 200 pounds, or if you were covered in acne, or if you smelled bad, then you have the same exact interaction with that girl that she's not going to respond as positively. So the look smacking philosophy is basically you should do as much as you could possibly do to be good looking, because that's going to impact your success in life with women with jobs with friends etc and so clav has kind of become like the the voice box for that and he's very much become kind of the face of that whole movement and some of it is stuff that is pretty like obvious and healthy like oh you should you should eat really clean so that you don't get fat or you should take your creatine take your vitamins take your supplements you should you should do cardio you should work out all that stuff we can all kind of agree that's good healthy but then they take it to a further extent where for instance there's a practice called bone smashing that they do insane where you basically take like a hammer or any heavy object and you like whack your cheeks with it so that your cheeks because i guess your cheeks are kind of like an indicator of who is considered attractive but then that makes your cheeks kind of like swollen and puffy and he'll be doing it to like his chin too um he's been on testosterone aka steroids since he was 14 years old he said that his body doesn't produce uh uh sperm on its own so he can't get a girl pregnant he said he comes in every single girl he has sex with so some of the stuff he's doing is real healthy some of it is obviously pretty deranged but he's also kind of become like one of the biggest most viral streamers over the course of the past couple weeks months isn't like drinking and doing a lot of drugs though kind of counterintuitive the looks maxing so okay that's another part of it is that he has publicly emphasized and promoted the fact that he has done meth because if you do meth you won't eat so it's easy to stay lean um he he does ketamine which i don't think is related to being good looking that's just something he does because it feels good he does all kinds of other weird drugs and peptides and stuff like that i think uh for sure the meth use in particular is a bad idea because as much as like yeah not eating and being skinny as a result is good i guess i mean well it dehydrates you and think about what meth does to you in the long run we all know people who have been addled by meth and to be honest i don't think luscious looks max no no but to be honest with you like um i came out on the good side of it true there's people that have what's like yeah that's that's a like you you could you tangibly tell when you see me like it's obvious this guy's done drugs Right.

22:45K Mac:And I mean, Clav, very young, good looking guy, gets girls out the wazoo. Obviously, being super famous now helps a lot with that. But you can imagine that if he's going to keep doing all the drugs that he's doing over the course of the next 10 years, then he's going to come out the other side of it looking much, much worse. So, I mean, I don't think it's a good long term plan. I kind of don't think he does like a lot of meth. I think that's overstated. I think he's done it in the past, but he doesn't do it consistently. That's just my assumption. The beginning of your explanation, how to describe his getting out was cool, but I only heard the second half yesterday, hitting himself with a hammer and a crystal meth.

23:25That's all I heard.

23:26K Mac:Yeah, that's for sure, like, the side of it that is more worrisome for people. But he's an incredibly shallow guy, you know. Like, there were girls coming in. Like, the two girls that are in this clip that are pretty close to the camera both look pretty good. But, like, you know, girls were coming in, and he's like barely looking at them out the corner of his eyes and he's talking to the stream just being like, oh my God, they're so fat. They're disgusting. And these are like all girls that like most of us would probably pretty much want to put our dick in and he's just looking at them like they're disgusting.

23:55K Mac:Now he has a scale at the front of this mansion that he's streaming out of for the next 30 days so that any girl that wants to come in has to get weighed before they let them in. Is this the same dude who Flacco did the thing on and he was mad at this girl got cracked by the black dude. And he's going to do it. Possibly, yeah. I mean, Flacco has multiple videos about how this guy's a racist. I have heard him say the N-word, including streaming with Blueface yesterday, and he was rapping along to respect my Crippen and saying the N-word. Oh, is that when you was throwing up the seat? Yeah. Yes.

24:32K Mac:I was drunk. I was drunk. I got drunk, and I was gangbanging. I'll do it in front of you, too. I don't mean it when I do it. I'm just doing it to show respect to the Crips. I hit him with a all that I did it right we hit the C nasty I was drunk I was having a good time I told Clav we were streaming sitting in his house for four hours and then we went out to the club and I'm telling him whatever you're doing I'm doing so if you got ketamine you want to do I'm doing ketamine it's a tranquilizer that people love to do it to party. Michael Jackson, then he died off that, right? I think you're thinking of Profenol.

25:14K Mac:Yeah, that's just it. Which, by the way, is like the greatest drug of all time because it just immediately knocks you out. What's the one Prince was? That was Ketamon or... I'm not sure about... You got the tranquilizer too, though, right? I'm not 100 % sure. Okay. But either way, he didn't bust out any real drugs aside from this drug that you inject into your penis. So Vitaly is also there. He just was in like a prison in another third world country for like the last year. He was in the Philippines in prison. So they like to shoot their dicks up before they go out. Right. So it's some chemical like they didn't really fully brief me on it beforehand.

25:52K Mac:So I didn't really know what I was injecting into my penis. But basically I figured out right afterwards that it's this thing that basically makes it so that you like keep an erection. so the girl shot it into my penis and then i spent like the next hour with a boner like i like before we went to the club i had to take a piss and i just fully like had a fucking rock hard boner and i'm having to point it down i'm standing at a weird angle it was terrible but i just figured you know as long as i'm part of the stream and i was already drunk as shit at that point i was drinking hella tequila but i see people on the reddit acting like i was doing all these crazy drugs all i did was shoot my penis up a little bit and drink tequila that's what that's worse to any drug you could ever do.

26:31Shoot your dick up. It really wasn't that big a deal. Hold on, hold on. You do porn and never heard of what he did. Like just shooting up the dirt.

26:37K Mac:No, that actually was the weird part about it is that this is a very common thing in the porn world. And I've heard so many stories about how intense it is and that when you shoot your penis up with this, that you'll be hard for four or five hours. Sometimes dudes need to go to the hospital. That even if you come, it doesn't go away. So I didn't realize that that's what I was doing, but either I didn't do it right or it like just, I don't know, maybe I'm just kind of burnt out because it really didn't affect me that much. My dick was hard for maybe 40 minutes. By the time we went to the club, it was totally fine.

27:10Man, those young fools got to be careful. They're not going to be able to get hard when they're like 30. But Vitaly's like doing their 40 too. He was all up in there. Not him, but like clapping them. What the? Oh, yeah, it's crazy. Way too young to be doing that. Bro, he's been on steroids since he was 14. Where was he finding steroids at at that age?

27:26K Mac:He just figured out how to order online. He was just way too online. So he was just finding out about everything from the internet and just ordering shit. Like he went to college and they kicked him out of college because he had steroids in his dorm room. And basically like trolls from these online forums were like calling the college and being like, yo, this guy's got a room full of steroids. And so then they raid his room and they kick him out of the college, which does seem kind of obvious that that's what would happen. But I feel like he, he was living in this sort of dream world where he didn't think that he was actually going to have to deal with any consequences of uh you know having illegal drugs and i mean how are you on roids though he looks small well that's kind of the thing to say that bro he hates working out so he takes steroids but then he doesn't work out so he's like he's you see like veins kind of pop it out of his arms and shit he's got like solid like muscle but he's not big because he doesn't really spend time in the gym which to me is insane he just thinks that being in the gym is boring and stupid but it's like bro being in the gym is the part of looks maxing that is healthy and good for you so it's kind of like he likes to do all the parts of looks maxing that are like easy and dangerous results and not the parts that are you know hard and involve serious sacrifice boys and not work out it's crazy that is not bizarre because doesn't it give you energy and like make you hub like you want to work out and all that yeah when you take steroids you want For me, I was wanting to work out every day for hours and hours and hours.

28:54Adam, you can't be getting caught in these settings, man, letting these little bras, man, shoot you up, man. That shit could have been coronavirus, anything. Had some Fetty in there.

29:02K Mac:HIV. If Clav pranked me with a fucking syringe full of coronavirus, that would have been some serious content right there. That's an intended murder. Listen, I am not in denial about the fact that there is something very cringe about me a 42 year old man doing this with a guy who is literally half my age because i think he's 21 after this it gets worse after this we get in the sprinter we're drunk probably got 20 girls in the sprinter and it's like me clav this dude ed matthews uh who's a streamer from the uk and as we're in there i'm throwing up gang signs wrapping along the blue face with the boys we go to this club we're in fort lauderdale so it's like a total it's not like miami where it's like crazy club scene it's like a college club scene so the the club that we go to which they immediately whisk us into this like vip area or whatever it is there's no one over 30 for sure there's probably barely anyone over the age of 25 it's all college kids it's almost all white people there's barely a hispanic in the whole spot in florida there might not have been a single black guy in the whole spot that's crazy every girl had their hair dyed blonde it i never been to clubs like this like when i was in college college age like this was just not my scene at all and it was crazy bro like girls are throwing themselves at clav they're doing drugs right in the middle of the club i just like glance over i see clav got a fucking whole bunch of white powder on his hand they snorting up and shit like that i didn't even drink once we got to the club that's this guy yeah yeah he's like he a motherfucking vampire.

30:40Yeah,

30:41K Mac:huh? He does get vampire vibes. Yeah. This the same dude that's doing the stream for 30 days. Yeah. And actually the stream that we did was the entry to that. Like that was the first thing that he did out of his 30 days. But how's he going to stay awake? So I was thinking that because he was saying that he was going to have a camera film him while he was sleeping. But then I checked in on the stream a little bit and it's like he does go to sleep at night and then he has his homies stay on the stream on night to like keep it entertaining but okay i'm telling you literally every night him and his friends just go to the club they find random girls they have people on their team that find random girls and they bring them back to the house they got like five security guards so the girls can't really fuck around too much or whatever they got to sign ndas on the way in and then he bangs like multiple chicks per night that they find from the club he doesn't wear a condom, which is insane.

31:36K Mac:This guy's good. How's he not gonna... He's doing this for 30 days straight. And bro, I had Michael with me. And Michael, to me, is a good looks-maxing candidate. Michael stays in the gym. He's in shape in a much more healthy way, a much more natural way. He has a girlfriend. He was not trying to be on camera because I think he knew he was going to get put in the trick bag. But yeah, I don't know. It was a wild encounter. So what did Atlanta say about you taking shots in the dick? Great question, Munchy. Because that's cheating, ain't it? She did not say anything about that. I'm not totally sure that she's seen it.

32:08K Mac:I don't know if she's seen it yet. I'm planning on having that conversation with her at some point, but I was kind of waiting until she found it. Did you bone anything? Yeah, but you better come out and do what you said. She see back. Just my hand. Tell her. No, just my hand. Like, hey, babe. Pamela. She would have let you know that. Oh, you're right, though. I should have hit something to get back at her for the Krip Mac ass grab. That's Krip Mac. Really, she was a victim in that. I'm not telling you. You should have did. I'm saying you bet not. You got on Crip Mac and you said Crip Mac told on himself.

32:37So I'm saying you bet not telling yourself. Exactly. I am telling myself here.

32:41K Mac:But yeah. And I'm not going to lie. When they shot my penis up, might have been 11 p.m. if I had to guess. I'm back in the house by 4 or 5 in the morning. And of course, I felt the need to beat my shit. And bro, I was having a hammer away at my thing to get a nut out. That's crazy. That's a lot of work to come. What porn star master rate, though? You get enough pussy for the whole building. Well, that's like saying a food critic, why would they eat a meal off camera? Or when they're not... Yeah, why would they just eat a random ham sandwich? Adam is Clav's Lush. That's crazy. That's fucked up.

33:32don't do that to lush what i no i don't what i want to know is like is there tangible results from like from the the bone breaking aspect of the look smaxing i don't know if it's permanent

33:45K Mac:but i think that it does like actually like puff your cheeks out like so i don't think that it it does enough that it actually is worth hitting yourself in the face over and over that's crazy but it definitely does something i'm just not really you know but like okay so there's this dude androgenic who's kind of like in clav's little circle or whatever and he's like a big muscular dude he had he they caught him he had pads in his shoulders to make his shoulders look bigger like inside his shoulder yes like a fucking straight up maxi pad in that bitch like whoa like that's how serious these dudes are clothing yeah like inside the shirt which actually makes sense because when I met him, I was looking at him like, how could your shoulders possibly be that wide?

34:30K Mac:So when I saw the clip of him with the pads kind of falling out, I was like, oh, okay, well, at least that explains it. He ain't even hiding it right. He got a double-breasted shirt. Double-breasted teeth. The club, though, seemed like he might be fun to hang around with the clubbing and the bitches part, but is the nigga racist? So I personally haven't really seen any clips of him being, like, outwardly racist but i have seen him saying the n-word which you know there's multiple ways to say the n-word er gga both gga i think are both and then how's how is bluefetch your favorite rapper but you racist well they were hanging out today they seem like they were getting along just great they're actually like weirdly similar they're both very like sort of womanizers golf yeah womanizers they both agree that they have no game they just use their status to get pussy um it It seems like they got along great.

35:23K Mac:But I don't think he's racist. And I think if anything, probably hanging out with me and Blueface is going to help bring him away from the racist side just by having some good black allies in his life. Right. He black, you beige. Yeah, you know, I'm on the spectrum. I'm like way down there, but I'm not white. But how wouldn't you say that he's racist when he don't like women if they dated black men? Is that true? Because I haven't actually seen that clip. He said that? he was he said thank you okay so he's saying his dick weak and the black niggas that we piping so the thing that I looked out well don't you think that it is a concern of many white men that if their wife goes black then they're not going to be able to go back especially if they get hit with a Jason Love sized man dingo and that's why you get the slack you get yeah for sure that's why a lot of people thought my marriage was destined to fail right but even to that even if that was correct that still isn't right but what I'm what I'm alluding to is the fact that he was mad.

36:23It wasn't saying that once he was mad that something had happened before him. Oh, so he's saying if a black guy had hit his... He was mad at an old girl because she had slept with a black man. In the past. Correct. And he was telling her, he got all mad about it and was telling her to put it on her mom and put it on God. This happened way before him. So clearly she came back to being white because she was dating him. you get what I'm saying so why are you still that debunks that because she's dating you so why are you still worried about her past he from my understanding what I see he said he cool on her because she dated a black man

37:02K Mac:I haven't seen that I agree that that sounds very racist but my whole thing is that I must help lead the new generation of streamers away from racism I can't just be like hey you guys have said or done something racist in the past Russell, I can't have anything to do with you. Instead, I must guide them towards the light and away from the racism. You know, you see Flacco post at all. I did see he sent those links in the group text, but I did not check them out at this time. First of all, Flacco say racist things and he black and he races against other blacks. That is a good point. That's called a jibble.

37:37Why you come back to the house, man, and jack off, man? Why you in my wife don't like getting woke up to the pipe, man?

37:42K Mac:No, wife was at home right here. It was 5 in the morning in Florida, so it would have been 2 in the morning in L.A., so my wife would have probably already been asleep for about four hours. But if I did, double FaceTimers so I could get through the do not disturb and was just like, hey, I need you to join me while I beat my shit. Nah, nah. It's romantic. I'm thinking you was out here. You went home. Oh, yeah, you was stuck out there in Florida. She would pick up. Like, what? Is everything okay? I need to get back to this morning. Is everything okay? Yeah, I got to beat off. Just talk to me. Hey, that club, dude, I think you weird, not racist.

38:13because like a real racist person, he'd be looking at Adam weird. Like you employ all these bloods and cribs. I don't know about that. I think before you - No, you don't think so? Bro, because I don't think a racist person be playing cribs. I mean, what's his name? Blueface? Listen to his chat and all that. Before you say that, bro, do your research on him, bro. Oh boy, racist. I heard of him yesterday. For sure, he's got a lot of racist fans. Your call has been forwarded to an audience. He racist, bro. Young and ignorant. I actually don't know if he still has this number. Oh, you calling an old boy right now?

38:42Yeah. That was the one that walking around Saying he was about to drop ink bombs I think that was the dude Chud the Builder That's the other guy Is that the same circle? I don't believe it's the same circle But they both just streamers Doing crazy stuff He was letting Matt and his girl For being with a date Black man He be saying that it's impure And all that type of other stuff Clav's way more popular than that guy though Clav's way more popular

39:10K Mac:To be fair Clab also said that he wouldn't date Selena Powell because she ate my asshole so he's a man of standards I'm just saying he's apparently got all kinds of hoops that you have to jump through you can't fuck a black guy, you can't eat Adam 22's asshole, you can't be gang banged in the past, all these things that I personally think are unfair man, bitches lying, they gonna lie to his ass, he think he gonna come with all these questions and they gonna check him off, man, bitches gonna be yeah, no, yeah, I didn't I guess it's level to racism There's definitely levels I feel like he's racially insensitive For saying the n-word and everything But he's also so young He's from Jersey but he lives in Florida now Utah has nothing to do with it Well I mean I do think Young people like to dabble in edgy shit We all kind of know that from when you were young I remember all kinds of kids in high school Saying the n-word And saying all kinds of fucked up shit about women and stuff that I doubt that by the time they were 25 or 30 that they were still on that type of time.

40:14K Mac:And I'm not trying to excuse everything he's ever done in his life. It's just I get it. I mean, when you're young and impressionable, you are more inclined to engage in certain activities, say dumb ass shit. I mean, I'm not going to lie. Obviously, there is part of his lifestyle that I'm just unbelievably jealous of, the part of going out and banging a new woman every night or multiple new women every night and doing shit. loads of drugs. Nah, that's on camera. That's different. But where did he find this bitch? Give me a shot of my dick. And she's like, alright, and just come and do it. Where did he find this bitch at?

40:48And that was weird. That girl, she's 25, she said,

40:50K Mac:and she didn't flinch about shooting our penises up. She acted like it was totally normal. Like she'd done it before. She's probably there to give Clavis to administer the dick shot. But bro, I was just realizing what losers these girls were because they're showing up at 10 or 11 to go to the club with us and they were at a day club the whole day before that getting drunk and i'm just like so it's a friday a random friday and you girls are at the day club from i don't know maybe like 2 p.m to like 10 p.m you get scooped up by some guy who works for clav and then you come to this mansion and then you just get in the sprinter and go to the club with us and then probably probably spent the whole night there.

41:33K Mac:Yeah, like, even by that time, imagine what their pussy smelled like after they've been out in the field drinking and partying for 8-10 hours. They could have a shower, right? They could, but I mean... Water-free. Did they? Man, they in Florida. These are some of the... Why are you even coming to in front of a company like that? But see, bro, you see it with them of how these girls are such slaves to the clout. Like, they don't even have personalities or opinions of their own. They just want to be around this guy because he's lit so bad that they don't give a fuck about anything. I've felt like for sure I could have hit a bunch of Random fucking teeny bopper 20 year olds In that moment that's like the easiest Like Florida college scene Like literally you gotta think about it that Entire states like history Is based on excess and sex And all that think about the rap that came out To live crew and all that they're so Into just pussy Of course That was my first time going out in Fort Lauderdale You know I've been out in Miami Where it's more of like a grown club scene Or whatever Fort Lauderdale was pure college kid energy.

42:35K Mac:It was crazy. I never seen anything like that. It was a bizarre experience. That's where the fight was at, at Fort Lauderdale? No, the fight was in Miami, but we hopped in an Uber for like 30 minutes to get there. It was crazy, bro. Yeah, Adam's very impressionable. Someone in the chat just said, Hey, listen, I'm on stream with the club. I wanted to put on a good show. I wish that I could have really had the ketamine experience because that's what I really wanted to come back here and report on. I'm going to do a K-hole, fool. Yeah, what am I sick? K-holes are not sick. They're not? No. They suck?

43:07K-holes are absolutely terrible. They sound dangerous. Yeah, like basically.

43:10K Mac:Oh, yeah, they said it's spring break, too. That's a good point. I didn't think about that. Oh, it's spring break? I never. Did anyone here ever do spring break where you go out of town for spring break? I never. Spokane. You were serving fiends. That's different. Yeah, he was out there for work. You know Spokane. You got some of the biggest festivals and shit like that, like pig in the park, all type of like different shit like i got like at least like four of them out through the year where people travel from everywhere and kind of they shit like so but that's where uh girls gone wild derived from spring breaks 100 shit right yeah i never said oh didn't you used to watch that shit when you're a kid and i had all them dvds whoa no oh we would goon to the commercials commercials okay i had to do that but then also remember the grind on mtv and then they would have like the spring break version where there'd be a big stage there'd be all these chicks dancing didn't you watch that as a kid and just think like this looks like heaven on earth like i would kill to be around these girls yeah just like it always it seems too good to be true like it's like the whole way it looks and it's portrayed because then i remember reading a bunch of like articles i remember a rolling stone article back in the day and they were talking about like what is really like at those places and i don't think it's that cracking for everybody i mean it's not like you like actually get to bang all the girls i guess that's like the difference with clav is that he's actually like got the clout to be able to fuck all these girls which has got to be pretty fun clav is on the spectrum bro for sure he's on the spectrum he's not he's not normal bro yeah i think he's autistic he locked up and fell into some clout but he something wrong with him for sure he's got a lot of uh like weird outlooks on life but i i really kind of relate to a lot of them too like he doesn't understand why anybody would want to like go do normal human activities like go mini golf go to the movies all these things i've like heard him basically talk about how he just thinks all that shit is so stupid.

44:58K Mac:All he wants to do is stream and fuck girls and do drugs. I'm going to tell you one of the biggest weirdest things about him. I get that. He say men is more beautiful than women. I don't understand what he's talking about. Did he say that? That is very vampire. The only person to get away with saying he pretty is Muhammad Ali. Men don't say that. What about pretty flocco? Flocko. Asap Rocky. Didn't he get that from somebody else too? I don't know what the fuck he talking about. He's pretty Tony. Shout out to everybody who's snorting ketamine while watching this. This dude said he's blasting the K-slopes as we speak.

45:34K Mac:Sheesh. Shout out to everybody who's snorting cocaine as well. Ant's in rare form right now. He's on a little bit of a different wave. To say men are more beautiful than women is crazy. I am not aware of him saying that. That's his philosophy, right? When you a man. I never heard him say that. I feel like he's I learned everything I know from Les yesterday I don't believe I said that at all what the fuck but who said that yeah who said he who said he it could have been one of the other who said he you don't want to take the case nah I didn't say that fool the fuck I think it was either the other guys Ricky yeah Ricky or Sus I think it was Ricky because I don't think Sus they don't know Ricky be saying anything you don't know what the fuck Ricky do be saying oh wow look at this hey I read it to you I read it to you a little hubby the other day and he said that he'd get out with Sus.

46:27Yeah. Frosty. Pause. My little honey? Frosty said he did a celebrity boxing match with Sus. A celebrity match? Come on, Sus. Put on a show. I fought Jason Love. You got to fight Frosty. Well, he need a back before he go to jail anyway. They can do it. Frosty said he ready.

46:44K Mac:Okay, but here's the response to this. Clavicular has stated that men are more attractive than women. he argues that male beauty is natural and bone related whereas he believes that women's attractiveness is often artificially created through makeup and styling which he refers to as frotting i mean there is some truth to that i wouldn't say that that leads me to say that men are more attractive but it is a fact that literally none of us are wearing makeup right now realistically all of us are pretty much wearing like a t-shirt and jeans or shorts or something and like women you ever watch the fucking makeup transitions that girls do on tiktok and shit i I used to watch my ex-girlfriend for three and a half hours a day.

47:22It's disgusting.

47:23K Mac:Yeah, it is pretty wild. I'm not going to lie. But I understand his take, but to say men is more beautiful than women, he crazy as well. That is gay. But also, I get the point he's trying to make there. You sure he didn't bring no man back from the club? He should be attracted to another man at all. How did another man go to attract him and he's gay? Does he have any cool opinions? I think he's just talking about you based. Is there anything? Are you able to have a real conversation with this guy? I mean, when we were on stream, we did have a pretty good conversation for the first couple hours, but then, like, you kind of felt it with him that, like, he just wants to get loaded because life is kind of boring for him.

47:59Like, he's just like, he told me he didn't drink,

48:02K Mac:and then all of a sudden he's grabbing the Casamigos bottle and just smashing it because. Talking, spectrum. And then he really seemed like he was having a great time by the time it was, like, 2, 3 in the morning at the club. That's when it seemed like, oh, okay. I want to holler at him. He's in his element here. I think he should get him some fangs. since life is that boring. He just needs to get him some fame. I want to figure out if he's really racist. You need to skydive. I mean, I'm acting like a vampire. Like he just so different. I was about to go to his crib on Sunday night with whack and blue face, but then they ended up postponing it till later in the day.

48:36K Mac:And that was definitely something I was going to try to instigate was I was going to try to see if blue face or whack would like press him about the N word stuff. So we could get some, I can't do it. We're not going to say, Hey, homie I'm racist too homie I'm poor I don't like these niggas so there is a clip of whack basically like all right so and I promise fans at home smash the like button we're gonna be done with the clap talk in a moment but basically there was this super viral night where he went to the club with a bunch of different influencers like Andrew Tate and Myron from Fresh and Fit etc and they're all right wing arguably have basically all said racist stuff at certain points and they went to the club and they played the Kanye song where the chorus is basically hail Hitler over and over and Clav ended up getting banned from all the nightclubs in Miami as a result of that even though he didn't play the song I think Myron or Andrew Taylor I forget one of them played the song he ended up getting banned from all these clubs as a result because obviously there's a lot of Jewish influence in Miami and while Wack was on stream with him he actually called one of the club owners and got Clab undanned from that club.

49:46K Mac:So Wack was actually working on behalf of normalizing racists. Wack, he work on the side of the bag. He don't give a fuck about nothing. Yeah, he do. He care about white people more than he care about black people. No, he don't give a fuck about nothing. Bro, as long as you could... He's probably got Clab doing a show for nothing but sports. Man, listen, if he see if Adam on a boat and Blueface and Adam 22. Blueface goes drown. No, look. You already know what I was getting to. What are you talking about? He's saving the bag. No, he's not. That's a fact. He's on the boat and you and Blueface is drowning.

50:26Adam is, I mean, Wack 100 is going to, he's going to choose you over Blueface. Every day of the week. Are you crazy? He gravitates to who he could, what's the word? People that's resourceful. You know what I'm saying? If you ain't resourceful or you got less than what he got, You a peon. You the little people. Oh, you a nobody. But if you got more money than a monger fucker, if you gaze a motherfucker, flick of the wrist, he love you. He gifted Jason Lee a puppy. Right. I'm not giving Jason Lee nothing for his birthday. It's a nice gift. He's being nice to his friend. I mean, I will interview Jason Lee.

51:03He's an interesting dude. I didn't know he was the vice president of Stockton, but I'm not giving his thinking a puppy. What's he, a councilman or something? Huh? Vice president. I forget what the exact. No, vice mayor. Because every city don't got vice mayor. Except vice president. Oh, my bad. He's J.D. Vance. No, no, no. Vice mayor of Stockton. Jason Lee, really interesting, but I'm not giving a nigga a puppy. Sometimes you got to buy the homie a puppy, man. Yeah, you from my... Look, if you one of my homies, you buy... If I buy a nigga a puppy that's gay, I don't even know how I want a power ad one-on-one.

51:37That's homophobia. You got to be a group. I don't know if I can get behind that. You can't get your gay friend a puppy. I really homophobic because I interviewed him. I think before An Jefe dies, he will buy a gay man a puppy. Listen, hey, I'm going to call you out on something. You said that's homophobic and you don't know if you'd get behind that. But you was making all type of excuses for that when we were saying it was racist, though. That's kind of crazy, though. But you can't get nobody. What if he is homophobic? I'm not, though, but go ahead. I mean, if he's homophobic, I don't give a shit.

52:06I assume all you guys are homophobic besides love. No, I'm not. I'm transphobic, though. Well, okay.

52:12K Mac:I'm against that too, I guess. No, no, I'm not homophobic. I'm heterophobic. No, no, I know a few gay people who ain't got nothing against them. That's their business. More pussy for me. But I'm saying like, I think people that's trans need a barcode on their head. Identifying mark. You know what I'm saying? The mark of Buddha. Just because you got enough money to transform to this, to that, don't, you know what I'm saying? You got to let niggas, let me see some ID. The mark of the beast. I think they all need a barcode on their shit. I think a barcode on the forehead is unfair. Why? It's just very Orwellian.

52:46At least be like right here, like on the side. Yeah, maybe the wrist. What's unfair? You tricking people and you put them in a situation where they got to grab the wrist. You know what I'm saying? The wrist is better. The wrist.

52:57K Mac:Turn the wrist. What's going on? Yeah, let me see. Turn the wrist, baby. Well, okay. What I think is more realistic is now that they have these like Google glasses, what if there's an app that you download that basically anyone who identifies as a sex other than their biological sex has like a red ring around them or something so that you you know who got time for that people are gonna have to opt in the way that's gonna be difficult the way iphone trying to uh fake upgrade every month shit they they shit they probably scan your ass have a scanner on that motherfucker boop boop go all the way he's trans you want to scan a training

53:36K Mac:I can imagine you on this podcast though saying like, oh no man, I think anybody who's scant a trans, that shit gay. You shouldn't be getting that close to him anyway. There'll be a new line in the sand for sure. It is pretty gay to scant a trans. So am I wrong for, like let's just say, if a transgender gave a heterosexual man some hair by accident and didn't let him know, am I wrong for thinking that person should go to jail for rape? I don't disagree. Because a nigga didn't ask for that. I don't disagree. I think there should be a charge. That's false. No, he should, but the trans should go to jail.

54:15Well, it's like equivalent. You know what stealthing is, right? I know what stealthing is. Okay, so it's like a - You fucking, you know what I'm saying? And then you peel a comment off and put it back in and keep fucking. Exactly, which is illegal. After the condom come off, it's not consensual no more, bro. I think the issue is going to be more like,

54:28K Mac:how do you prove that the guy who got sucked up by a trans person didn't know how are you going to actually put charges on them i think a civil charge or a civil lawsuit is probably more plausible hey i gotta check i gotta check with you i'm snitch k but nigga you catch me something like that i'm telling if you go to jail you're going to jail is it i'm gonna smoke you are you going to jail for life. You tricked me, nigga, and you don't need to do this to nobody else. I don't think it'll be like a serious charge. I think you'd probably get like two or three years. I'm gonna keep it up. Tricking somebody like that is crazy.

55:07K Mac:It's all bad. Get 20 plus. Fuck that. And Munchie, I'm sorry to hear that that happened to you. Nah, fuck that. It ain't never happened to me. Because I'm not a sucker for head. I be feeling all between the legs. I go for pussy first. Okay, I have bad news. I just asked CharGBT. If I get a blowjob from a trans person and She doesn't tell me, can I press charges or file a civil lawsuit? Short answer, usually no. In the U.S., simply not disclosing that someone is transgender almost never creates a criminal case or a successful lawsuit by itself. Yeah. That's great. But if you shoot him in the face, then you're going to go to jail for life.

55:41Right, right, right. And if I shoot him in the face, murder is still illegal. I'm not going on the run for that weird scene. I'm going to stay right there for the police. That's crazy. That's crazy, though. I'm going to stay right there for the police.

55:49K Mac:So basically, it would have to qualify as sexual assault in order for you to be able to do anything. I feel like it should be a degree of essay in my opinion. It definitely should. We need to do a petition with that shit. It says, the courts usually view it this way. You consented to the sexual act. The law doesn't require someone to disclose their biological sex history. I feel like these laws... Yeah, these laws were made at a time before this became something that was a risk of happening. Like, every day when I leave the house, I am at risk of getting sucked off by a trans person. You're not tripping up.

56:21K Mac:That's the thing. Isn't it illegal to not disclose that you have HIV before sleeping with somebody? So it's essentially the same thing. I mean, I feel like it's not disclosing your sexual history. Right. Because, yes, if you get AIDS, you could die from it. But if I am from a street gang and I get sucked up by a trans person, I could die from that. They might kill me. No, no, no, no, no. That makes you gay. Stress kill. So you just turn somebody gay and they be trying to do that on purpose. If you get sucked up by That's a good question though If you get sucked up by A person that's trans and you really don't know You're not gay bro You got tricked That's a good death rape It's a technicality It just depends on how they look I think it really depends on how they look What if somebody puts mad meth in my lean And then I fuck some gay person That's date rape Is that gay?

57:16K Mac:I think there'd have to be a panel Yeah, what if I get a rookie? That's a stupid one, not gay then. Y 'all took my question far, but I'm saying. That's what happened to stupid one, according to him. I know he lying. No, stupid one. He said they slipped meth in his lean. He's like wearing panties. Hey, I've partook in quite a bit of meth that I've never. I mean, all right. If somebody legitimately date rape drugs me. Oh, I forgot that that's, you know, Clab gave me something. I don't know what it was. What? But it tasted like GHB, and it definitely made me feel like pretty weird. It was salty But he said it wasn't GHB It was something else But it kind of like It reminded me I haven't done GHB in like At least like 13 years Let's know this shit Oh yeah Hey they gonna indict that nigga He gonna get indicted bro Do you guys wanna do a fun pod?

58:04Let's have a GHB party on here Hold on what is that again? That's the shit that was in the baby oil right?

58:09K Mac:That's what they said was in the baby oil I don't believe it but that's what they said It was in there right? Yeah And GHB is exactly what? So it's the date rape drug It's the same shit that dudes basically try to slip into girls' drinks and shit, but some people like to do it just to party. Bro, it makes you so horny and then you pass out. If you do a - So ridiculously horny. If you do a reasonable amount of it, it just feels good and you feel kind of trippy and like laid back. But if you do too much of it, lights out. So why do you feel horny? Because you do. Yeah, it's considered a very popular sex drug.

58:42K Mac:Because that's literally what it do. But then also dudes use it for nefarious purposes. So I ain't gonna lie. This is only in white communities, huh? Because black people can't get their hands on this. They definitely can. Is it popular with them? Not that I know of, but they can. With like hippies. Okay, part two of the question. G.H., where the bitches at? You said the party. Wait, what? You said G.H.B. party. Yeah, we would have to have bitches. That's what I was gonna say. Where the only fan hoes? you gotta you gotta like shit i'm i'm ducking off on my page and smacking something people in the chat are all saying that this is what i took fenobut fenobut is crazy fenobut is a synthetic central nervous system depressant similar to gaba used in russia to treat anxiety insomnia and alcohol withdrawal okay it's like gabapentin it's not fda approved it carries a high risk of addiction, cool, and causes severe withdrawal.

59:42K Mac:I personally didn't feel anything. I wasn't even hungover the next day. That clab, though, where the fuck do we get this shit from? He's just super tapped in with this world of internet drugs and he knows where to order everything. Did you just ask where he got drugs in Florida, though? Think about that. They got the most drugs, the most pharmacies. And he's on these looks-maxing forums where any drug you want to get, they figure out where you can order it off the dark web or whatever the fuck. Not to mention, he's got a whole team of people around him that are basically enabling all of his bad behavior.

1:00:13K Mac:So it's not like he has to find hoes himself. He's got dudes who are going to these day clubs in the middle of the day in Fort Lauderdale and just going up to girls and saying, hey, do you want to come be on Clavicular's stream? He's got 20 ,000 people watching him right now, and these girls are all cloud-obsessed whores. So they hop in the sprinter and they go. Could you do me a favor? Sure. Could we do a poll and ask the women who think this clab dude is attractive? imagine there were women watching this right now no no no no oh y 'all think no hoes watching I mean for sure a very tiny percent yeah maximum 10 5 % I got somebody that came from this this chat You fucked a hoe from the chat.

1:00:53Listen. That's amazing. No, no, no. I ain't gonna say I did that. But I ain't gonna say I didn't. No, no, no, no, no, no. It started some drama. You know what I mean? Yeah. And there's some bitches in here.

1:01:04K Mac:But if I do a poll, then it's gonna be guys and girls voting on it. And I assume most of the guys are gonna say they don't consider him attractive. I think the nigga gay. Uh, he fucks like multiple girls per day. If anything, I feel like he's probably gonna get an STD from fucking all these hoes. well yeah like so i'm kind of torn on certain aspects of this guy because i totally get just wanting to lean into your excess and he's having this incredible moment and he's just gonna i think he's just on some i'm gonna ride this so the wheels fall off i don't know if there's that much thought into his future but at the same time he seems like a vapid piece of shit straight up he is actually pretty smart and like cool to hang out with but yeah i mean his whole life is like fucking random girls and doing drugs but i mean think about this he said that his first day streaming he made$20 ,000 the house that they rented is$130 ,000 a month and you can't you can't even park there because the neighbors are so on it like the neighbors are seeing all these clips going crazy on Twitter yeah they fucking hate him they're trying to get rid of him so imagine that you spent$130 ,000 to rent this mansion and then the neighbors want you out of there so bad the cops are coming like every day and shit so you rent it for the whole month?

1:02:11K Mac:yeah I'll let it kick it with the nigga he's rich and famous cause he bringing bitches back I don't want no shot though man there's three stages in addiction there's fun consequences and consequences when some consequences start smacking you brother so how do you remember everything from uh what's that shit called you go to when you on drugs you remember everything from rehab but you still doing drugs you quoting shit bro like if you've gone Once you become a vet, I can recite that book like, you feel me? You know, cover to cover. Type shit like Clef Lodala can recite the Bible, player. Like, literally.

1:02:53Okay.

1:02:55K Mac:Okay. All right. Sporty Face has walked away from us, so I feel like we can't directly get into the boxing matches, which is like one of the biggest topics that we got to hit today. Also, I just wanted to announce something to everybody who's watching. We are going to do the stream for about two hours, maybe two and a half hours for free. And then we're going to go on members only for like the last two hours. So if you guys want to become members now, it would be a great time so you can switch over right when we switch that up. Anyway, let's talk about this little Russell thing. There was a lot of people mad last week.

1:03:29This has been tearing Twitter apart.

1:03:33K Mac:Epstein is heaven sent. Clavicular is heaven sent. We have to play this. Oh, he said his name too? No, no. okay so this is a la russell snippet uh basically i don't know why he does this he throws these little concerts for like 20 people and then he just gets mad clips that he puts on twitter but basically this is a song that oh they said wipe my mouth i got clav all over it is that is that like a lush one reference okay um how's that a lush reference because you always got the sperm on your mouth oh um okay so this is a a la russell clip that has been going nuts i where the fuck did Spodeyface go?

1:04:11K Mac:How are you going to pee in the first hour of the pod? Why don't you pee before you come in here? You know, he pro-black. He don't want to hear all this shit. Yeah, if I try to govern his urination then... There's no way that he's seen this clip either. So it's like he's going to come back and he's going to ask us to play it again. I should hold off on this clip because this shit right here is different. Yeah, this shit is amazing. He giving Kanye. Yeah. How long do you think until Spodeyface comes back in here? Because he's really fucking on my phone. He's taking a shit. He what? Instagram, our Instagram, our post got taken down after he posted.

1:04:44Why? The Instagram post about this little Russell thing got taken down? Why? Because he ashamed? It just, because it was talking about Hitler and whatever. Oh, because he's saying even Adolf was having sent, even Epstein was having sent. Okay. Damn, so the video came down or was it the caption? What did the caption say? Bro, that's insane that our post got taken down. Here he come now. Wow. As if Loressa wasn't embarrassing enough. Bro. I think he reported it.

1:05:09K Mac:I'm looking at all of these fucking great topics and we just can't start any. I'm going to call a spotty face. I'm going to scream at him. No, I'm just kidding. Smokey taking a shit. He's outside. I ain't going to tell nobody. I ain't going to tell nobody else though. Hey, you not a real white boy, bro. You know all the black movies. You beige like a motherfucker. Come on, bro. You don't know what I look like? I'm actually black. Yeah, I heard. Oreo. I have heard you say that. You said you're black and Mexican. my niggas are oreo type type type type sheet my roach i thought that yeah exactly i just thought i was tripping i can't wipe and talk wipe oh that's what he said no that probably 40 and all kind of oh my god oh his phone's right here so let me oh i'm about to say i don't see a missed golf thing he's got you blocks on me he's not taking a real if he didn't If he didn't bring his phone with him.

1:06:08He could be mentoring somebody from his community real quick or something. It's all the joke. There he is. We've been frozen.

1:06:22K Mac:Number one or number two. We were frozen. We can't talk about the topics until Spodibase comes back. What happened? We've been waiting for you. But okay, let's watch this clip. So, you know, we had the conversation about LaRussell and the Lil Wayne disrespect a couple weeks ago. Yeah. Well, he's back with another bad take. So this is a... Yeah, this is a song, a preview of a song that he put on Twitter. It is getting him probably more negative attention, I would say, than the Lil Wayne thing. Spotty, you'll get on a remix though. Listen to it. For sure. Peep game, peep game. I made this record and I sent it off to my engineer and he calls me.

1:06:59He said, man, you probably shouldn't put this out. I said, why? What the hell happened? He said, you know, you talking about Epstein? It's a lot of shit going on. And I said, thank you for calling me. I'm going to drop this.

1:07:14K Mac:Did you just hear a touch of the zest in his voice? He's so zesty. He's sounding a little Dajon right there, right? He's so zesty. Yeah, I'm sorry, bro. You got to come out the closet. That's exactly why we need it. Because everybody sit and be silent. And the goal of an artist is to express the times and discuss, say all the things that nobody else want to say or know how to say. I'm not perfect and neither is the president was guiltier than the nigga hiding evidence. You can't be mad that they heeded if you don't let them vent. Even the devil was heaven sent. Even Malcolm was heaven sent. Even Martin was heaven sent.

1:07:55Even Kanye was heaven sent. We all heaven sent. Donald too. we all haven't sent it gets worse Epstein too we all haven't sent Adolph too we all haven't sent even you we all haven't sent

1:08:22K Mac:okay and so that was enough to basically ignite Twitter I didn't think it was that I don't think it's as serious people are making I think it was okay this is my problem with it words have meaning and the word heaven sent is typically meant to be used to describe something and that's a blessing that is a blessing the perfect thing at the perfect moment for example if my car breaks down and just as i'm sitting there panicking freaking out because i'm not going to be able to get to work on time spody face drives by and says oh adam i got you hop in then it's like oh spody face was heaven sent right when i needed some help he showed up doesn't really make sense obviously i probably should stay with my car but that's why i'm personally offended by it is because the usage of the word heaven sent like in what way was adolf hitler heaven sent millions of jews disagree with this yeah but this is the thing you you're atheist right so of course you wouldn't believe like if you talk inside religion when you're talking about God and you talking about, you know what I'm saying, his son, the one that went upon the cross, you know, and gave his life, you know what I'm saying, to wash everybody's sins, you told you come from the most high, you come from heaven.

1:09:40So what he's saying, he's actually saying, right, regardless of the devilish shit that goes on, even Lucifer, they said Lucifer was in heaven and he was one of the favorite angels until he started doing what he doing and went down to hell. You know what I'm saying?

1:09:53K Mac:Okay, but if you believe in God, it is true that God made Adolf Hitler and God made Jeffrey Epstein. But that doesn't mean, that's not the same thing as saying they were heaven sent. No, heaven is where you go at the end of your life when you die. You're not in heaven in advance of coming to earth. I mean, heaven sent me differently than I came from heaven. Yeah, it means like the perfect thing at the perfect time. So you just have so much respect for people. That's not a sign that humans use. If you say heaven sent, you said something that came from heaven. No. But heaven sent is at the end of your life.

1:10:32In the Bible. Heaven sent is a.k.a. a blessing. Yeah. That's a fact. If you said something that heaven sent, it came from heaven. So there's anger. No.

1:10:42K Mac:If he had said even Adolf Hitler came from God, even if Jeffrey Epstein came from God, like, that's fair. That makes sense. To say he's heaven sent is to imply that they were exactly what the world needed at that time. Somehow the world was not going to continue on as it was continuing before. And then Jeffrey Epstein came to earth, had sex with a couple thousand underage girls, and now the world is better as a result. That is what heaven sent would imply. And we didn't come from heaven, bro. We're going to eventually make it there if you're lucky enough. So where are we not from? So the anger inferred.

1:11:19We're not from. We came from God. Yes. Where is God at? He's the beginning. But when we say heaven, that's the end. God's not in heaven? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Okay. Look, look, heaven's supposed to be God's kingdom. That's the final destination. So why wouldn't he be in his kingdom? That's the final destination. But when you say heaven's sin, that's saying it's a blessing. I mean, that's what humans want. If you can't pay your rent and all of a sudden the money just appear on your porch, that's heaven's sin. That's a blessing, yes. That's a saying. That's a heaven's sin.

1:11:48That's a saying. No, no, no. That's a saying. That's a human being saying That something came on time So they say oh man it's just heaven sent It was a blessing But if you ask LaRusso what did he mean I guarantee you he's going to say That what I'm saying is all these people Came from God You got to call him an action now I guarantee that's what he's going to say But he didn't create the term heaven sent Heaven sent Heaven sent been a thing Before LaRusso heaven sink for sure rappers change the definitions of words all the time no no no fuck a rapper a rapper is who too humans you talk about the term heaven sink yeah but that's the whole thing so is the whole anger so is everyone's anger that's a positive gesture right but is everyone's anger here based on respect for the english language who's angry I'm just saying it's people the people that are upset

1:12:40K Mac:talk regularly I think people are upset about the song because they feel like it's tone deaf and that it's it's lame to put Malcolm X and Martin Luther King in the same sentence as Hitler and Epstein. And to say that, like, I don't know, like what, like what is the purpose of this? Like, what is the song really trying to say? Like, what, what is the usefulness of this statement? I think like really people aren't like disagreeing with like the, the literal definition of the words he's using as much as they just think that this is like the corniest, lamest possible thing that you can use time on a song to say.

1:13:14Like for me, I wouldn't make a song, But what I get from this, like, right, a lot of people always going to take stuff offensive because what's going on right now and what certain people represent. But I think like he's expressing himself like artistry, like, you know, saying it's supposed to, like, make you think like when I hear him saying this, I hear that he's basically saying these people came from God. It's just like when people down here, like you can be holier than thought, you know, I'm saying praying every day, you know, I'm saying doing your deeds, you know, doing everything that the Bible says.

1:13:44as I'm saying, the basic instructions before leaving earth, and then something happened, and then you start questioning God, like, man, how the fuck this happened? Man, I'm like, I don't do nothing wrong. I do everything. You say I died, and my motherfucking child died. He got shot. Why? Why mine? So it's just like, I think, like, he's just expressing, like, yeah, with all this evil shit motherfuckers doing, what's going on? Like, these people, you know what I'm saying, come from God. And I think heaven sent is a metaphor. Like, no, because a lot of shit is double-edged sword, and I don't even know this dude, don't listen to his music.

1:14:13a lot of things are used a lot of words has more than one meaning bro and the thing that he could

1:14:19K Mac:be saying that i don't i don't think it's obvious that he's saying this you have to kind of like do a lot of work on your own to get to this point but what he could be saying is that hitler at one point was a baby and was innocent and then he you know as a result of the things that happened in his life and the things that the people he encountered and the experiences he had he became a very evil person and did horrible things. That's fair. I don't know that that's obvious that that's what he meant from the song. I think Young Ain't trying to get the feature. The cool part about it, I could show you right now that on my phone, I could have had a feature.

1:14:55From Loma Russell? I got a dude that messed with him that asked me if I liked the song to a slick Rick beat I could have got on. It ain't got nothing to do with the feature. I don't care about the feature from nobody. I'm just saying, like, a lot of people think inside the box. Like, I don't think that he meant to offend nobody. I think he really meant like, oh, down here on earth, that is a saying. That was something, a good deed happened. Yeah, people use that. Oh, that was heaven sent right on time. But like a lot of words have more than one meaning. Have you ever heard it used any other way?

1:15:21I've heard a lot of shit used. No, no, no. I'm saying not a lot of shit. I'm saying heaven sent. I heard niggas say I'm heaven sent all the time. Like, bitch, I'm heaven sent. Yeah, I'm heaven sent. But he meant it in a way I'm talking about. I'm a blessing to you. I'm heaven sent. I come from the heavens. It could be the most devilish nigga.

1:15:34K Mac:So there weren't enough young girls getting fucked by an old billionaire and like that's why Epstein came to earth. I was right in time. No. I mean, that's how you are. I mean, I'm saying how your ears hear. Using Heaven Sent in that way is so crazy. The more we talk about it, the more I feel like it's obvious that that is just like the weirdest possible choice of phrasing. If you pay attention to how he laughed, you're going to know he ain't on his right mind.

1:15:59The thing is this. That nigga laughed and told it all for me. Fuck all the words. Look, we could all agree with this, whether you're atheist or religious. Either God is everything or God is nothing. In your eyes, God is nothing. He doesn't exist. And I'm pretty sure that everybody else at this table will agree that God is everything. God is a part of everything. Good, bad, and ugly on this planet.

1:16:18K Mac:You're saying that I've accidentally created a Christian podcast in which I'm the only atheist? I'm not a Christian. I guess you're right. I guess it's always kind of been that, too. Yeah. Yeah. And when I say God, that's not an actual. That's what I'm trying to tell you. I haven't seen. Even 22 is heaven sent. Even Adam 22. Man, you better stop playing with this heaven sent shit out. Hey, but look, though, for my. Even Chud the Builder is heaven sent. My take on it, it was obvious to me. Like, I got it off the dribble. I had the same take as Adam. Because I thought he was saying, like, it doesn't matter, good, bad.

1:16:51All these dudes is sent from the heaven. What they decided to do with their life and their decisions that they made, that was on them. That's what I got out of a take. And I also do agree, like, for certain sayings, it's subjective because it's more than one meaning. And who are we to say that he meant it this way and all that? And to be fair, I think he's getting a lot of backlash because he said Donald, you know what I'm saying, that Epstein, you know what I'm saying, that Adolf. But had he said, I mean, had he said, oh, you know, Jay-Z, McTeen. Whoever, you know what I'm saying? I think if he just leave the controversial figures out like Hitler and probably Epstein, I think Donald would have got a pass.

1:17:29If he left Epstein and Hitler out, it wouldn't have hit as hard. Yeah, but why? I think that was the whole purpose. But why? He was like Kanye, but why? Why does he have to turn his artistry down? You know what I'm saying? And he gets scrutinized for it. Because he's corny as fuck. That's why everybody is so horrified by it. I mean, it's the same thing. People be on TV all the time. You know what I'm saying? But people be on all the time collaborating with people's stories or agreeing with stuff that's racist and all that type of other stuff. You ain't got to turn your artistry down, right? But just be able to deal with it.

1:18:02No, no, no, no, no. You ain't got to. Just be able to deal with it. You know what I'm saying? A lot of people, it's edgy, and they go dare to be different. So, like, just be able to. Don't turn it down. Y 'all thought that was edgy? No, that's what the hell is on the edge. You don't think it is? I don't think that's edgy. Hell yes, it is. Because you don't hear that every day. That's Donald Trump supporters that's in public. No, Donald Trump is. You got people that feel a certain type of way with all type of people. The Donald Trump thing is on borderline. I know a gang of gang members that think they're going to get some PPP money again, so they voted for him.

1:18:33For sure. They're going to say that Donald Trump. So Donald Trump. Because he's in office. No, no, no. It's the Epstein thing. And it's the, what's that nigga? Epstein. Hitler. Adolf. Adolf. Adolf Hitler. Yeah, Hitler. Yeah, but you still have people that's hell Hitler. Even big schemes. Yeah, I don't fuck with them. But I'm saying how this Eddie would be. They still have supporters, though. Hey, look, look, look, look. They're saying that because of black men. They're not saying about all the white people It's not an outrage about all the white people out there Hell, Hitler and all that It depends where you're at

1:19:03K Mac:Can I ask a serious question, Spuddy Fish? Why do you think that this clip has been going so viral? Because he said Try to explain the other side I think because he said He said a rapist and a racist Right, but like Why do you think, like obviously you can mention those people In a song and it doesn't mean it's gonna go viral Like what is it about this song That has captured so many people's attention and ire. Because it's a black man talking about a rapist. I feel like if somebody else would say it, it wouldn't have been as controversial. Give us another example. Somebody like who? Kodak Black.

1:19:40I ain't talking to you. It's a million, but I just think right now he's under scrutiny and I think people like Adam don't like him. No, no, no, no. I ain't there put him under scrutiny, I'm saying. But give another example. They scrutinized that heaven sent shit. Yeah, that's the only thing to me. I think without him saying Adolf Hitler, you know what I'm saying, I don't think this would have went nowhere. I feel like Epstein was probably the one for sure. Epstein is someone that people are like currently horrified by. You talking about heaven sent and God look over babies and fools, bro. He pray on younger kids, which is essentially still babies, and he talking about he's heaven sent.

1:20:19So I'm trying to say how do you – But he came from – that's what I said. That's what I'm trying to explain. You don't come from the heavens. that's your final destination that's your opinion

1:20:28K Mac:I looked it up in mainstream Christian theology you do not exist in heaven before you are born rather your existence begins at conception and you enter the presence of God immediately after death I feel like everybody kind of already knew that everybody didn't know that first of all that's man made translation what I believe in that's what mainstream Christian theology is I'm not a Christian what the fuck are you then I'm not. You do Israelite. You know what I am. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me finish before I ask you. Listen, before, how many, why do you think certain babies don't get to make it in a womb?

1:21:04Why do you think so many women can't hold a baby or they die before it? No, no, that's not. That's not. That's a condition or to me, in my personal opinion, that's because it's not their time or that's not in their plans. That's just what I believe. That's just what I believe. Hebrew Israelites do not believe you exist in heaven before you are born. Okay, that's them. I believe different. I believe everything that comes to life is sent by the most high God. That's what I believe. Everything that breathes, everything, every mechanism and everything that's correct. I believe that comes from the most high God.

1:21:40That's what I believe. But I think in every religion, we know heaven is the final destination. You don't come from heaven. Says who? everybody but you no it clearly couldn't God created everything so thus we did come from heaven come on what do you mean like what do you mean literally God created everything so how

1:22:05K Mac:God created everything but that doesn't mean you're allowed to go out of order you go to heaven when you die you're not in heaven when you're alive and you're not in heaven before you're alive so can I say I came from hell and I was born? Hellspawn. Hellspawn.

1:22:27Let's not push it out of order. Okay. I know because me personally, I don't have a religion. I just believe in a higher power. Period. I don't have a religion. But everybody know, I think in every religion across the board, heaven is the last destination. And can I just throw this out there? Is that common sense? Try to imagine.

1:22:46K Mac:try to imagine peak Kanye making a song that touched on these sort of topics i'm talking like Kanye before he kind of went off the rails or whatever or even right now i think Kanye could have made a song in which he kind of like addressed the reality of the fact that yeah like you know everybody started off pure and and went on to do whatever they were doing their life and yes Trump and Epstein and and and Hitler all kind of fall into that category someone who was a dope rapper could put that sentiment to a song and make a dope song and make it hard for people to disagree with but russell is not that rapper he is biting off more than he can chew he is a very corny uh kids bop tier rapper and i feel like nat like when he was just you know dancing with the kids at the school and saying hey we hyphy we having fun we're from the bay that that there's only so much that you can fuck up that sentiment in a song and i feel like now we're seeing la russell emboldened by the attention he's getting and the fact that he's signed to rock nation etc and now he's trying to like bite off meteor topics in his music and everybody's laughing at him because he's somebody who's positioned himself as being better than lil wayne or at least like on the level of Lil Wayne.

1:24:07K Mac:And really, he's trying to like put himself up there with this upper echelon of artists. And you just don't have that level of artistry. To be fair, he did start, like early in his career, he was doing like way more introspective, lyrical rap. And he kind of like - And that shit probably sucks too. We just ain't heard it. It's better than what he's been on the past year or so, for sure. But, and I feel like this is kind of him trying to go back towards that, like, which is a good thing. But I agree, ultimately, I don't think he, executed the vision to the best of his ability. So I think this is just be authentic.

1:24:41Him trying to, you know, separate himself from what y 'all think about him, that he's a teeny bop, teeny bop kid rapper. And like, just want y 'all to see him in a retrospect of being grown, just like little Bow Wow. Bow Wow was a kid's rapper for a long time and him transitioning to a grown up rapper, it's over so well.

1:24:59K Mac:Right. But I mean, if Bow Wow had made the song, we would all also be clowning him. You know, like if, if, If someone, you know, maybe Bow Wow just kind of knew his limits and knew that the world just didn't really want to hear him talk about stuff like this. And, like, Russell clearly is so emboldened. He's so confident in himself that he thinks that he can make a song about anything. I think he's hot. Well, he can. It's just look at the reaction he's getting from people. He's become the laughingstock of the internet for the course of the weekend. I think he's hot. And I think it's a clout route because if this whole song don't come out, it's a clout route.

1:25:32K Mac:bro yeah do you think he will put out the full song because he he put he put out a five minute video today in which he's justifying his choice to put it out and he's really like not uh wrestling with the things that people are actually saying he's just kind of saying like oh y 'all thought this was a pro epstein song this ain't a pro epstein song nobody thought it was a pro epstein song we just think you are corny well if dave blunts made that song nobody would even bat an eyelash they wouldn't even think twice that is a good point is that dave blunts is someone who's set up himself as like a comedic rapper who sometimes edges into like, you know, sort of more emotional stuff.

1:26:09K Mac:But Dave Blunt probably has the self-awareness to not make a song that tries to somehow like compare Epstein and Hitler to Malcolm X and Martin Luther King. Hey, he tested positive for Cornball 19 on IMG. And I think this might not be a real thing he put in a publicity stunt. And then I could hear intoxications in his voice. That laugh is crazy. Yo, I hate his voice. My whole thing is how everybody just made Heaven Sent something when it's convenient for them or when it's like. Nah, you're just trying to change the meaning. Yeah, but he's the one who's trying to change the meaning. I'm not trying to change nothing because Heaven Sent could be anything to everybody.

1:26:46But listen, let me finish my tape. You don't even know what I'm about to say. I'm talking to him. But I was saying something. It's crazy to me how everybody feel like, well, besides Ed, it's feel like Heaven Sent is something like just convenient or just like a streak of good luck or something that goes your way. That's heaven sent. That's the only mean it's been. What about something that's actually been sent from heaven, though? That's what heaven sent is, sent from heaven. That just does not seem to describe Epstein accurately. So you're telling me if I walk down the street and I find a$20 bill, oh, this was heaven sent.

1:27:18Did you need it? I probably have a million dollars in my pocket just because I found a$20 bill. So it ain't heaven sent. No, man, it's heaven sent. But Epstein is not like finding$20 on the ground. Heaven sent fucking kids, bro. Yeah, it's subjective. He's a child rapist. If you got a million dollars and you find$20 on the ground, that's not heaven sent. That's what I don't get. If you're a homeless person. Exactly my point. Lucky and blessed is two different things. Exactly the point that I'm trying to make. If a homeless person, that's why me and Luster are saying it's subjective. If a homeless person get the$20 bill, then it's heaven sent.

1:27:49He's going to feel like it's heaven sent. Yes, a homeless person. If me or you find a$20 bill, I'm like, damn, all right, the nigga just found a$20 bill. I'm lucky. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. So heaven sent is subjective. The terminology is subjective. As long as me and you been alive, Heaven sent me the same thing. No. Until LaRusso came along. Until LaRusso came along and you trying to bend the shit for him. Bro, Heaven sent me, Heaven sent. Hey, fools, you should call. Heaven sent is a.k.a. a blessing. Fools used to call pussy cock back in the day. But no, no, no, no. Only white people call dicks cocks, though.

1:28:18Black people fucked it up and we called pussy cock. That's what I'm saying. But white people, oh, the cock. Okay, okay. And that's the problem. Hey, yo. I don't get under there. And look, and that's the problem with the earth now. because a scientist right now can come out and didn't even study nothing and be like, hey, this and this is called this. And y 'all going to go right with it. I mean, the scientist said it, so, man, that's the name of this. Like, what's the difference from Lil Russell coming out and just, like, taking the meaning and, like, giving it, you know what I'm saying, more, like, what's the word I'm looking for?

1:28:49Just, like, making it double-edged. Okay, okay. Double-edged. Okay, well, all I'm saying is if that's what he's doing, let's say that. He's changing the meaning because that's not what it means. That's all I'm saying. Yeah. So who, though? What we're saying is subjective. Just because it means that much, I don't know.

1:29:05K Mac:I mean, it is subjective, but it also seems like the vast majority of the internet has kind of banded together to say that they think that it's stupid and it's a bad song. It's impossible. I'm 36. All my years, heaven sent, man, heaven sent, a.k.a. a blessing. But I guess we're trying to figure out a different way for it to fit his narrative because he said Epstein and Hitler. Okay, but let's move past the actual thing that he said, because I am seeing the public sentiment, which I think six months ago, if you had polled 10 ,000 rap fans, that the prevailing sentiment about the Russell would have been either.

1:29:39K Mac:I don't know who that is, or yeah, his music's maybe not for me, but he seems like he's got a good heart and he seems like he's really trying to do his thing. And I hope shit works out for him. I feel like those would have been kind of the majority opinions. now I feel like the opinion is a lot closer to this guy sucks we got to get him out of here I'm going to really really enjoy hate watching the demise of his career because that's I didn't want to hate him you saw the way I talked about him last time I was still kind of vouching for him I was still saying I thought he was smart I was still saying that I thought he was gonna go far in the music game I am really starting to move in the direction of like oh I'm going to gleefully watch and observe your career as it stalls out and goes nowhere because I don't think you can keep making these bad pr decisions and clearly not caring about what the people on your team tell you like the fact that his engineer told him what a bad idea this was and he didn't listen to him and nobody looks smarter than the engineer right now the engineer looks like a fucking genius i thought he said the engineer said put it out no the engineer told him do not put it out like how do you sign to rock nation and they don't at a certain point look at this and say hey listen this might not be a good look because at some point he's gonna have to start listening to somebody besides himself because clearly he doesn't have enough of an understanding of the culture to make good decisions about what to put out but so do y 'all think beyonce getting at jay-z about this right now i don't know if it's gone that big but for sure jay-z's probably thinking like damn i'm glad we didn't go all in on this guy i'm glad we didn't invest a million bucks under this guy because look how he keeps fucking up i mean isn't he doing what he's good publicity No, this is the worst publicity ever They say any publicity is good publicity And that is not true Trust me, I know I know, that is a fucking lie All publicity is good publicity, I'm not with that shit I do think this is a rollout Tell Epstein that, Epstein is very very famous He wasn't really that famous throughout his life And now he's world famous For things that are clearly not good This is clearly just the rollout for his song though He knew exactly what he was doing The engineer told me not to put it out You know how many rappers have said that before?

1:31:43K Mac:Nobody is going to make money off this song. This song is a losing proposition. I think that right now, there's a better chance of me listening to that. If it's the whole song, we only heard they was heaven sent. Oh, we hate all those other songs. We're going to hate this one, too. Shout out to our members. Adam just hung him. I don't think you're grappling with the fact that the opinion that I'm putting out there is pretty much the majority opinion, which is that this song sucks. This song is really cringe, really embarrassing. If you want, I could pull up like Anthony Fantano's take on it, which is like not far off from mine.

1:32:16K Mac:And it's kind of representative of like the mainstream take about this. No, we're basing it all on that. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So if the smoke come out and go platinum, then what people are going to be saying? There's absolutely no chance that will happen. No, but it's going to do. I think if I'm Jay-Z, I'm happy with LaRusse. Now, I'm happy with LaRussell because he's staying in the news cycle. He's staying relevant. You do not want to be in the news cycle for all the bad things. Well, I mean, he's had a couple corny moments recently. But it's been all bad. He hasn't had a good moment in between.

1:32:53K Mac:That's when you look at his tweets, because I look at his Twitter more than I would like to admit, because he keeps going viral every week. It's like, you'll have this. Or you'll have the Lil Wayne thing. thousands and thousands of likes and quote tweets and retweets, et cetera, his regular tweets get like maximum, like a couple hundred likes. Like he does not have the dedicated fan base that you would think he would need to sustain this. It's all negative. And it's taking a lot of people who are like maybe on the fence, like could have become the Russell fans and it's boxing them out of that.

1:33:29K Mac:To the point where there's absolutely no way that they're going to become a fan of this guy. there's a big difference between him and Russ. Okay. Yes. Russ bankrolled the Russell's career. Apparently early on gave him like a bunch of money to help get his career going. Russ believed him. The difference between Russ and the Russell is that Russ can do a nationwide tour and sell a lot of fucking tickets in a lot of different markets. He makes music that people love, even if it maybe is not us, the difference between him and the, and, and Russ has had a lot of bad PR, but Russ also smartened up at a certain point and decided that he didn't need to keep making hyperbolic offensive statements in the media because they were ultimately going to have a negative effect on his career.

1:34:10K Mac:And the thing about that is that like, even all those negative moments for, for us in his career, he was able to survive those because he did have a dedicated hardcore fan base. La Russell doesn't have that, but he keeps saying stupid shit. That's making everybody hate him. it's difficult for conscious rappers. Like, because like back in the day, we used to like when conscious rappers were controversial and had some balls, public enemy, you feel me Paris, like going against the system and all that shit. Like that was cool. Now conscious rappers, they want to be like squeaky clean and have an image and be so inoffensive and just it's boring.

1:34:42It's banal. And I think he's guilty of a lot of this shit. I'm actually happy. He said something that's like outside the box. Although it was a dumb ass statement. I don't fuck with a song like that, but this doesn't offend me. That from the Bay song is a hundred times more offensive and gay than this. And why you don't fuck with the song? Because he said Adolf. No, no, I don't care. Like the song, like the whole song. Yeah. No, yeah, exactly. I will listen to this song. There's no way that song ever comes out. I will listen to it. It probably wasn't going to come out in the first place. Yeah, because I think it was like some cloud shit.

1:35:12I think it was a publicity stunt. And that's why, you know what I'm saying? He only played. Well, yeah, it's only a snippet. Well, he chose to put out that little chunk of it.

1:35:20K Mac:But this is part of his whole little way that he goes viral. He does these little concerts for maybe like 100 people in some sort of backyard scenario. And then he takes the clips of him sort of explaining the song and then playing part of the song and then he puts it out on twitter and social media and that's supposed to build up hype for the actual release of the song and clearly it has really not worked out in this situation that marketing shit is stupid bro like i don't marketing is if the songs were cool i think it would probably do pretty good for him so y 'all believe like all publicity is good publicity no absolutely not but if if he had said something less stupid and if the song had been less lame then i think that it probably is it's a decent way to roll it out because it's hard to make people to pay attention to songs and maybe if you you know put out a clip you perform in the song for an intimate little group of people where they are all really fucking with you maybe that could make people watch that clip and actually fuck with the song it's just he's done the exact opposite he's made it so all these people who don't listen to him now kind of hate him and are really kind of looking forward to him failing that that crowd looked kind of confused yeah they also i don't think they probably did a visual for it so it could give more context to the What are you trying to say?

1:36:30You know what I'm saying?

1:36:31K Mac:What LaRusso really needs is one good song that people like and then push the fuck out of that song. Because as far as I can tell, he still has not really landed on one popular song. He need to do a Get By By Talib Kweli type song. He need to do a feel-good, conscious song that everybody fucks with. I don't really know if those songs could be a hit right now. You know the good part about this, though? He only played a part of it, and he could go do a second verse that explains everything he's saying right now. that's the good part. But will anyone be listening? No, but the transgressive take would actually be him saying Epstein wasn't so bad.

1:37:09K Mac:Yeah, he was totally sure. That's like somehow in the 90s, some underground rapper would find a way. I guess, no, probably not. There's just no way that you could justify Epstein. But, you know. He could come back in a second verse. What would Dead Prez's Epstein record have been saying? They would have. Dead Prez would have had like a whole. that's the best example ever by the way they would have had a whole diss track they would have been yeah everybody getting smoked on the album cover there'd be epstein they would have had a whole tape about it you feel me like yeah like the dead the dead press take would have been to say it's not just epstein like they would have been like pro pedophile cabal conspiracy for sure you know like that's what they would have gone for but but you saying they say it ain't just him and they they shed light on other people that's doing the fucked up shit too right yes that's nothing wrong with that there's not i think that i think because dead prez is an example of a great conscious rap group that were their whole thing was revolutionary but gangster so they like they kept it street but at the same time they're like kicking truth to power i miss dead prez like a motherfucker yeah they went big well and they wrote like people don't know that they wrote a lot of the easus album done a lot of writing yeah yeah but fucking Stickman wrote New Slaves.

1:38:26K Mac:Wow. One of the best songs on there. Let's do this Jack Harlow conversation, and then we're going to go members only to talk about the fights. Did you guys listen to the album, and how do you feel about it? Munchie, I know you said you were a big Jack Harlow fan prior to this. What do you think? Support or not fan, though, because I ain't tapped into everything we do, but as far as this project right here, I believe that was like an interlude because it was real short. Thank God. Well, yeah, it's like nine songs, I think. No, no, no. But it was the interlude, and after that, it was a song called All My Friends.

1:38:58The one before All My Friends. I actually like that one, All My Friends. Yeah. That's my favorite one. The interlude was cool. All My Friends was cool. And then the song Against My Grain. I mean, Against the Grain. But the rest of it, it was like, nah, it wasn't it. You know what I'm saying? It's like he saw the movie. What was that Taye Diggs movie back in the day, the Neo Soul shit? like he's really trying to do this neo soul earth tone shit and it's kind of i think the main thing that he didn't realize is that you have to sing good if you're going to do neo soul

1:39:32K Mac:yeah this album really like highlights the fact that he doesn't really have a voice worth mentioning but he's not a singer right so he made an album that he really kind of like relies on his ability to sing right but he was trying to hit high notes which convinced nobody that he was some vocalist right but like that genre is very dependent on being a good vocalist keep in mind he a white boy doing neo so you know i'm saying man robin thick and sing you feel me robin thick see that white boy different but look look so so the thing about robin is what that's crazy you make that um you make that um that comparison robin stick to what what works yeah a lot of these dudes be coming in and they work and then they get to try they need to try and sit like oh you know i'm saying and fuck him up like don't get to trying shit stick stick to doing keep doing what you you know i'm saying you do robin dick is a singer though bro it's a it's an example though it's an example yeah he didn't decide to make a hip-hop album randomly that sucked ass like he's he's seen r &b singing that he sold you know i'm saying he stick to that he don't try to venture off or do nothing else that you know i'm saying he got his fan base and he stick to you know i'm saying his fan base no bob said that wasn't a good comparison because he's an actual singer doing that type with whatchamacallit versus he a rapper trying something you know i'm saying I think His singers overall Yeah like Stay in your lane We got Justin Bieber We got motherfucking Justin Timberlake And we got Robin Thicke And they can all sing Like a black nigga For sure Let me just throw out My take So this is like Realistically Like I'm So not versed In Neo Soul I feel like the only album That I've ever really Listened to in my life Multiple times That qualifies as Neo Soul Is that That first Erykah Badu album Which Great album I did go through A period of my life I listened to that a bunch great album queen of it and that being said this album feels like you know he he did a lot of lip service to explain why he went in this direction and I do want to give him the benefit of the doubt that he's just growing as a person and that he didn't want to make braggadocious music that's what he said in this interview that he did about it it just feels really really convenient that Jack Harlow spent his entire career rapping his ass off and making these pop records with him rapping and just being a rappity rap rapper and then right at the exact moment that rap has really kind of fallen out of favor in the mainstream and it's hard to make people care about rap it's just really not a welcoming environment for artists that he switches up his genre and goes in a completely different direction it feels kind of cynical kind of convenient that this is the direction that he decided to go at a moment in which it feels like rap is less commercially viable than ever before and especially given his limits as an artist the fact that he really does not have a great singing voice I don't know it's hard for me to really like enthusiastically endorse the project as a whole even though there are auto-tune on a fucking neo soul song there's a couple of songs i really like there's a handful of songs i actually i like that one a lot there's like plenty of songs on this i actually plan on listening to more not just because i knew we're going to talk about it on here but it just feels like he absolutely over the course of the last three years where he didn't put out a project he absolutely surveyed the scene realized that if he put out a rap album that it was probably going to be a laughingstock style project and so he decided to go in this direction and i just it just feels really convenient but you're also missing like a key component is that his album his last album failed yeah really bad and that's why he's doing this in addition it's not it's not just like i can see the writing on the walls okay like it's tough for rappers out here his whole shit wasn't working he already done seen all the other white boys head for the hills mgk post malone jelly roll they they winning grammys getting rich as fuck doing white music now right so he's like well i'm actually gonna do the same thing but i'm gonna oscillate and stay within black music but this is my thing so he thought black people about black people i'm about to tell you black people i think have become used to other races making rap music.

1:43:57K Mac:They've just, you know, it's been like 40 years. They get it. What black people are very comfortable gatekeeping is this neo-soul shit. Understandable. Because you've never seen a white person really make inroads into that genre, right? Besides like Robin Thicke and stuff. Right. So it just feels like if Jack Harlow wanted to stir up controversy and really create a big-ass conversation within rap, this is the exact genre that he would have gone in the direction of because i think jack hollow the rapper was not inspiring the level of conversation on social media that he is with this project this is really pissing a lot of people off and causing a lot of people to really kind of laugh at him as a result white man can't jump he went in the blackest possible direction which he he said that in this interview he said a lot of people are going in a white direction i decided to be more black and that's really pissing people a lot even though in the full context of that interview i think what he was saying wasn't really like all that offensive but i mean he's really like just picked a lane that is pretty much guaranteed to piss off a big percentage of the most vocal black cultural commentators on social media sitting on a podcast with three white guys talking about how you're blacker now because you're making trying to do r &b is crazy but i mean but to be fair but to be fair as a black person speaking on this and I love Neil's soul.

1:45:20That's like, listen, I love Neil's soul but I think if just the album was good the music is undeniable. It don't matter what race you is. So you liked it? I didn't say that at all. He said if the music is good. I said if the music is good it's undeniable. That's just like he was saying Justin Timberlake, you know what I'm saying? And people with soulful voices, when they drop it's felt by everybody. It's more acceptable, you know what I'm saying? but when you try to do something that's just not good, it's just what it is. But you got to try it to know it don't work, right? I agree. But he could have done it.

1:45:55When like N.C. Stane on Lane, I mean, people swap over all the time. You know what I'm saying? Like, ain't nothing wrong with like trying to figure something out. No, I'm not. I mean, they talented in different stuff. But you got black people that do country. I mean, if you switch over lanes. I mean, you started country. Yeah, if you switch over. That's a fact. No, yeah. That's a fact.

1:46:16K Mac:Black people started country music. That's a fact. I never heard that one. That's a fact. I mean, it also derives from blues. That's a fact. Rock and roll, all that, that is a fact. That is a fact. Rock and roll, you better be able to own that shit. Like if it backfires on you, then it's just like, oh yeah, boy, what you did. Hey, but see, the interlude and two, outside of the interlude, so he got two and a half songs, it's cool. Well, the thing is though - Against the grain, all my friends, and then the interlude, it was straight. His whole J.Crew fall catalog aesthetic for this album is so crazy because he could have easily done an R &B album, right?

1:46:55He could have easily just had an autotune-heavy modern R &B or dark Weekend-inspired album. He could have done that. But he chose the type of soul music, R &B music, that requires the best vocals, the most chops. Other than gospel music, there's no genre with better singers. Well, Neil's song, when you sing, it's low tone. It's like, you know what I'm saying? Unless you're like D 'Angelo, falsetto and shit like that.

1:47:21K Mac:Isn't that part of why when Justin Timberlake drops, he doesn't get a huge negative reaction from the black community? Because he's actually a very talented singer and performer. Yeah, he's actually black, though. And he's fire. We adopted him. I don't know about that, but he definitely got it, though. Fools love his music. To be honest, I think one of the most, the person who got one of the most soulful voices, I mean soulful I'm like singer from the soul he white and he a homosexual he was Sam Smith he got one of the most soulful voices out there British people can sing I ain't up on that nigga he got really weird that's the one that got the stay with me you was above me Sam Smith in the P?

1:48:05yeah I liked that song that stayed with me I didn't have a CD everybody just Spody says he's a cell. They're going to have a Sam Smith party. Of course I was in prison. You only could get the radio. I liked that song. Stay with me. I did, though. Hey, John B was white, huh? No, he light-skinned. No, he's white. John B white, for sure. For real. White, bro. He's white. Don't listen to what people say. Hey, that's the original. I don't hear nothing. That's the original fly white. I always thought he was black. I thought he was light-skinned. Nah, bro. Exactly. You know your people. Them dudes from, they white too.

1:48:42Beastie Boys? Nah. Beastie Boys are for sure what? The singers. There's a lot of them. Beef. Justin. Robin Thicke. Oh, you're talking about like, oh, N'Sing. New Kids on the Block. Backstreet Boys. N'Sing. No, no, no. R &B. Oh, Savage Garden. What? What are they called? Come on. None of these. That's what I'm talking about, bro. No, no. A white boy R &B, nigga? No, a group he sang. Color Me Bad. Color me bad. Color me bad. I ain't not going to do my homework. I'm not familiar. I want to sex you up. Are they white? Color me bad. They white. They are white boys. Reds. They white. I heard that before, but I never knew who was second.

1:49:27They had number one songs. Yeah. What else they got? Because I heard that before. I thought that was the last one. Come baby. Come baby. Come baby. That's them. Baby what? That's like a black dude. They white, bro. They white. You see all them? The dude with the hat on in the back. All for love. But no, I Want to Sex You Up is a quintessential banger. Yeah, that door kid and play, they movie.

1:49:49K Mac:I thought that was black. Bro, look at this screen. Why is it looking like the dude from Smash Mouth? He looks like Fat Riff Raff. Yo, that's a Riff Raff. Lee Singer Color Me Bad. Why is that him? Yeah, I ain't up on Color Me Bad. That's a little before your era. Maybe I should start an R &B group. I know. You the only singer in the room, Lush. Senior Lush. You wouldn't sound Like the thing is You wouldn't sound worse Than fucking Jack Harlow doing an R &B album It just To me it just shows That he has very little He thinks that he's doing this Like respectful thing And paying homage But actually bro You're being very disrespectful You're just switching lanes Being very disrespectful For even attempting To do this bullshit You're right You can't say it was disrespectful Wasting 30 minutes Of my motherfucking time Disrespectful to me Having to hear that bullshit That's between you and your metros So you didn't find any songs that you liked on it?

1:50:39K Mac:Cheeks. I feel like you sometimes you're trying too hard to be anti-white. Yeah, you're trying to be too hip-hop. You're trying to be too hip-hop, bro. I cited Color Me Bad is Fire. Say something nice about Jack Harlow. Were you at all a fan of his prior work when he was rappity-rappin'? I like the beat to What's Poppin'. The beat. Cool. Call him at the beat. The beat to What's Poppin' was hard. I like Jack Harlow music, and I think two and a half songs on his project. What's that song he remixed for Fergie? Yeah, the Glamorous shit. Yeah, that was a hit. You feel that was a bop for sure? He had hella hits.

1:51:16But then did he really have nothing popular

1:51:19K Mac:off of his last project? No, it was a dud. And even the album with Glamorous and all that was actually a commercial failure and did not meet expectations. I think people was mad about that white man can't tell him. That was like the... He was in that. I think they was mad about that. I ain't gonna lie. because he did that. That's not Billy Hoyle. That is not Billy Hoyle. I was mad about the game doing belly over. He fucked it up. Yeah, that was atrocious. Wow, look at that. White men can't jump with Jack Harlow on the poster. Who's the other guy? The game fucked belly over. I totally ignored this when this came out.

1:51:58Start Jack Harlow in the I never even seen the original

1:52:01K Mac:White men can't jump either. I gotta watch that. The original? Amazing. No, I'm not a movie guy. I'm more mad at the game, bro. Let me ask you a question. When a white person be an underdog, you want me silently rooting for him? In what scenario? In any scenario. Be more specific. Anytime it's a black person doing something, I root for him. Is that just black people saying? Yeah, that's you being a racist. Oh, right. I get you. Like a black hockey player. I'm rooting for him, bro. I'm rooting for him Tiger Woods I was rooting for him he said he's not black fuck Tiger Woods I was still rooting for him he's the only he's the only like crazy golfer that I know of realistically pretty much Tiger Woods said he's not even black OJ said he's not black they were still out there rooting for him even OJ was heaven sent I'm rooting for him I'm not I would not do that I'm not rooting for Tiger Woods like even in the BMX world last night I watched this like really epic game of bike between Devin Smiley and Courage Adams Courage Adams being black and really I don't even think at any moment did I think about the fact that one was black and one was white I really didn't like people sit down I'll be honest Bodie I'll answer your question because I I'll say this yes you root for the black guy no I root I was excited anytime I would see white people rapping and like getting praised for it back in the day not because I was like oh this is gonna be a good white man getting success no it was more like it was more like oh this is going to make it easier for me.

1:53:31This knocking down nose so I can do this. So Slim Sadie came through. What? Oh, dumbass juice. Bubba Sparks, Slim Sadie. All those fools. Let me see your grill. Paul Walls, the man. Paul Walls has some shit.

1:53:42K Mac:But Eminem making his emergence into the rap game, I'll acknowledge that I was excited about that. But that's different because we actually thought that for like, because like 10 years prior to that, there was just no movement in terms of white people in hip hop. Like we really thought that Vanilla Ice had poisoned the well and that there was never going to be another popular white rapper again. So when Eminem came out and went crazy, and especially just the fact that he was endorsed by Dr. Dre, that made it like, oh, sick. Because I actually thought this is a genre of music that white people only get to listen to and never get to contribute to at all, which is different than like when I'm watching a boxing match and there's a black guy versus a white guy.

1:54:21K Mac:I'm not like going crazy rooting for the white guy because he's like, yeah, there's great white boxers. like who the fuck cares it's just like it's already been diversified like we already know that like almost every sport now if you took like if every person in the nba was black and then one white guy made it would i be rooting for him a little bit yeah just because like if i have a son if i have a son i would like to him to know at least it's a possibility you could play basketball if if black people's genetics were just so much better that white people couldn't compete yeah i'd be kind of sad but you know that's a little different ain't nothing wrong with that But yeah, Eminem put your own.

1:54:56That was a win for your culture. The thing is, though, like before Eminem, like there's already Beastie Boys. Third base is already platinum. There's already successful white rappers. And in the underground, it was full of them. Like because there was like a race. It was Necro, Cage and Eminem. And they were like the three crazy white boys. And it was going to be who was going to get on first. Actually, late 90s Cage, easily one of my favorite rappers.

1:55:18K Mac:You want to know an opinion that's not going to gain me any fandom in the chat? Beastie Boys suck. I'm glad you said something I'm glad you said something They wouldn't plight them though Worst song of all time is Girls by the Beastie Boys Great song There is no song that makes me want to turn it off More than that song Besides maybe My Name Is by Eminem Which I also hate More than almost any song ever recorded by anyone I used to knock that shit Probably because it came out when I was a kid though I hate it You don't like white people But when it came out It was as appropriate for us My name is Like you feel me Right now I'm not gonna turn it off It came out when I was in 8th grade And even then I was like Yo this song's gay as so great Are you saying the Beastie Boys suck Because like as rappers They're not complex I hate their music And when I hear it It makes me want to turn it off No no no no What about like Even like all their alternatives I hate it all I can't say I hate it all But like okay Sabotage That song's annoying I'm not really a fan of that So what you What you What you want I mean, that's not the worst song.

1:56:24K Mac:Intergalactic, I do like that song. That's more of like a late stage Beastie Boys song. Yeah, 96. No Sleep Till Brooklyn, super annoying. Hate that song. Sure shot. What about Baby Got Back? You sure do know a lot of Beastie Boys songs. I just looked up their top 10 songs, you dickhead. Shake Your Rump. All great records, like literally everyone. Wait, why is Girls is not even on this list? It's just not even like one of their big. That's like probably the number one song you still hear. Well, you definitely still hear Paul Revere. For sure. What's your name called? Seen that song again, Baby Got Back?

1:56:58Sir Mix-A-Lot. Yeah, Sir Mix-A-Lot. I like that. Hey, man, don't be leaving all White John, bro. Hey. Hey, no, man, my knee go to jail too much, bro. He go to jail more than S3. Hey, Road Running by White John is still in my playlist. Hey, did I do a good deed by introducing you to Red Dog earlier? No, no, Red Dog, cool. Yeah, he seemed to be cool people. Bro. I can't wait till the interview drop.

1:57:22K Mac:He's a boy from Fort Worth that I just interviewed. Oh, is that right? So sick. That's the one I was hearing before. Yeah. Sick ass, dude. Yeah. How many, how many, how many, how many, how many classics albums, hip hop albums you think Eminem got? Don't just say all of them, but classic. No, he's got Slim JD LP, Marshall Mathers LP. Slim JD is a classic? You could say he arguably has three classics. I don't think you'll get much pushback on that. The chat says that his run was the Slim Shady LP, Marshall Mathers LP, and the Eminem show, which that is very much like that. That was so the sound of my high school years because that's literally from the beginning of high school to the end of high school for me.

1:58:04K Mac:And as much as I don't like certain songs like My Name Is, I can kind of acknowledge that. That's what I'm going on. Wanna fuck with Shady? What's your matter to the Eminem show? Slip Sadie did numbers though No no he was hard It's crazy that he could have three of the best like three classic albums and now when he puts out a project I would rather listen to Lush fart into my fucking face than listen to him He been going off his last four hours No terrible I mean I just don't know how that I like how when he does shit that like puts on Detroit like he did when he hopped in that cypher with all the Detroit fools and he did a song with Sada Baby and all them.

1:58:48Yeah. I like anytime. What's fun, right? Yeah, he's in there too.

1:58:51K Mac:Anytime he finds it within himself to rap like a semi-normal human being and not make everything like a big conceptual disaster of a song, I think it's pretty good. And even just like, even though it's, I don't really like this song, him doing a song with Baby Tron is super dope. That was cool. Yeah, he's like. I like that song, Forgot About Dre. No, but what about the song he did with Griselda? One of the worst songs ever. He does like the whole beat changes. Oh, yeah. I think at this point, Eminem just patting in his stats. He just putting out shit because he knows it's going ain't nobody going to pretty much catch.

1:59:21I know y 'all saying I'm going to go switch lanes, but I heard his daughter look bracken, bro. I heard his daughter is sexy as shit. I heard. It's like a rumor.

1:59:28K Mac:She is attractive. She has a podcast. I wonder if it still exists. She had a podcast for a while. I sound bad because you hear. Hi, everybody. Like you want to be referencing. I think it's called a little shady. Yeah, it is weird. Like when you've like seen somebody their whole life. But I'm going to tell you what else is weird. Because Lotto. I was watching Rap Game with my daughter and my stepson, and she was on Rap Game trying to compete for the social dev chain, and that's just my big dick energy. Bro, listen, let me just tell you, when it comes to podcasts, nepotism is apparently not a thing, because I'm looking at the episodes of Eminem's Daughters podcast, and they're doing back on fake numbers.

2:00:11K Mac:They're like 10K, 20K. She looks a lot like her pops, though. I don't know if I feel like he's... She... Like, when did... How are they only on episode 12 or whatever? Damn, damn. That's crazy. Hey, Haley, call me. Your numbers are gonna spike. Bro, they must have, like, restarted the numbers of the episodes because... Oh, okay. So, they're doing, like, seasons. So, when it says, like, episode eight, that's for the third season. Because I know that, like, when it first came out, they were doing really good. But, damn, these numbers are not bragging. Her person transferred into Eminem. The fact that we all know and have a little bit invested, at least, in all these characters in Eminem's world is crazy.

2:00:54Like, he, no other. It's really just the daughter, right? The baby mama Kim. The mom. That's all he said. The mom, Kim, Haley. Look at episode one, 800 ,000. Hey, call me Haley. I'm going to pull up like Huggies. There was an Eminem song where he apologized for not being there for the first episode

2:01:12K Mac:of her podcast. I wonder if he'll ever go on because that's like the only thing that they could probably do that would make this podcast do better your favorite Eminem song all time you only get one I don't do trivia I like Stan who's Uncle Nate why does it have 1.5 million views that's a crazy song I mean but look at this look how a lot of her popular episodes are just with random members of the Eminem family tree like her sister 800 ,000 her uncle 1.5 million like are people that interested in Eminem that they'll just check out like anything related to his family tree that's fucking is that her dad's daughter or her mom's daughter I don't know spotty favorite Eminem song is a white boy dear mama that's crazy nah I'm sorry mama it's the white boy dear mama he was talking shit about his mama my favorite m &m era was when g-unit was dissing ja rule and m &m was hopping on those diss tracks and he was really finding it within himself to rap like a normal fucking rapper but like really really good and i just that was great him on fucking hail mary him 50 and fuck oh my god and buster just ran train on ja rules so tough like so good bro oh 50 50 and biggie remember That shit crazy.

2:02:37That ecstasy done got you all emotional and mushy. He spazzed on him, bro.

2:02:41K Mac:John Rue was just the perfect target for diss songs at that moment. But you got to give John Rue some credit because he want to get, it's a cold machine. He did. He got Dre, 50, Eminem. And he got destroyed. John Rue got bangers, bro. But in order to give him credit, you'd have to argue that he made any kind of headway. I feel like they just destroyed him. Wait, do you credit for getting in the ring? Yeah. No, that's cool. But he had an Adam 22 style performance. He didn't put any points on the board. They should have let you bring that pocket knife in after all. Yeah, he made a couple, like, he put out a whole album, but nobody gave a fuck about it.

2:03:10Nah, after that, that R-U-L-E's did some numbers. And he did that clap back. He tried to get it in. He was, nah. The only thing I was New York. Don't say he was swinging. Adam didn't swing at all. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. He was swinging. New York. Only thing he did was clap back. Only thing he did was clap back. I was swinging, too, in the gym. I was swinging in the gym training before the fight at R-U-L-E. Hey, G, you don't need that 50 cents. They smashed them completely, but New York was cool. Yeah, but that's on that RUL. He got the song with him and Lloyd, the other shit, him and Bobby Brown.

2:03:42They had some bangers on there, bro. Yeah, that's crazy. That was The Last Temptation. The Last Temptation. Oh, Lloyd, Lloyd, Lloyd, Lloyd. The Last Temptation, yeah. That damn production team that Irv got, he used to have, was so cold. Saru had bangers. I don't know what y 'all talking about. He did. I like all the bangers. Yeah, he had bangers before the 50 era. Yeah. Yeah, before 50 came around. No, no, no. He still has some baggers with 50. That last temptation. So it's... That's only one song. Him and Bobby Brown. That caught up. No, no, no. No matter what I think, him and Lloyd, no, that was on that RUL that caught up.

2:04:19I ain't gonna lie. I'm kind of biased. I'm a 50 Cent fan, but I like all the early on. Not early on. Is it considered early on? The John Rusev? Yeah, yeah, yeah. This shit was Ashanti. Before Pro 50. Everything with him and Ashanti is fire. Everything pre-50 cent, pre-Curtis, party pooping ass. I like Ja Rule. And then after that, it's over. You can make a strong argument for Ja and Ashanti being like. Ja and Ashanti, him and Charlie Baltimore. You know what I'm saying? He was like, he did. He did. Hey, look, look, look. I'm going to put this out there right now. And when they do this, man, give me my little 10%.

2:04:54Ja Rule and Ashanti, they need to come together and do another project. Yes. Irv Gotti, God bless his soul, he resting now so he not cock blocking or, you know what I'm saying, with a dick and pussy business and they could get some music done. Is Nelly still beating? Yeah, that's his word. That's his name. Mama, boy. Maybe that'll be different. None of the collab, collab records is popular now. I think that'd be dope. Ashanti and Ja Rule. Yeah, they had that chemistry, yo. Irv Gotti was in a way because, you know, like, Like, he was tender-dicking. You know what I'm saying? Like, aside from, like, Fuji's songs, I'll say that's probably, like, the greatest combo of rapper and R &B singer.

2:05:38Damn near it. I don't know about Fuji's songs being... Hold on. Yeah, because I'm talking about, like, Lauryn Hill. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's a fair answer. But see, Lauryn Hill, like, okay, you got her down as a rapper or what? Well, she was singing a lot of those hooks, so it's like, you're right, it is kind of different, so it's hard to even make sure that... That's what I'm saying. Yeah, it's not a perfect comparison. So I really say, I'll go out on a window and be like Ja Rule and Ashanti might be the greatest rapper, R &B collab ever.

2:06:07K Mac:You're saying just in general, best male, female rap duo? Rap R &B or female, male? Rapper, male, female singer. Because the other obvious one is Method Man and Mary J. Blige, right? But they only have a few songs. They only got a few songs. No, I don't. But that song, but that, but, but Method Man and Mary J's song is probably like the best hip hop love song ever. Hell no. They got like two, three hits. Oh, wow. Actually, Complex ranked this recently. I said I was right, huh? And they did say that that, yeah, best rapper. And oh, but they're not just doing like guy, girl. Best rapper and singer duos of all time.

2:06:47I'm interested who else made the top of the list. Nay Dog and somebody else. Oh, yeah. If you're including males. I was doing female male though. Yeah, I was talking female male. It's going to be Ja Rule and whoever else. Ja Rule and... Okay, that's an interesting future in the weekend. Oh yeah, they got a whole album. Yeah. If you do a male, I got to go nae dog with anybody. Nae dog. You got to put him with somebody though, bro. Even to T-Pain or Akon. Wow, they gave number two to Kendrick and SZA. Kendrick and SZA. I feel like they're so new. That's surprising. How much music have they done together?

2:07:28It ain't that many female and male collabs that's pairing up with Ja Rule and Ashanti. Who do you pair up Nate Dog with though?

2:07:40K Mac:I'm so not paying attention to singers like Ludacris and Usher. I'm just like did they even do music together? They have huge records together. In this club. Hold on, hold on. Man, they got shit. Lovers and Friends. Yeah, they got a lot of shit. Drake and Rihanna, number four. Drake and Rihanna, for sure. How much music did they do? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They got only a couple songs, man. Like three songs that they named here? But everybody except for them, Ja Rule and Shanti got a couple. I would got to go Nate Dogg and Snoop Dogg. We doing this middle-term. I got to go Nate Dogg and Snoop Dogg.

2:08:11So we're going singer and rapper. We're not just going female, female, male. Oh, so it's female, female.

2:08:15K Mac:This list includes everything. Number five, J. Cole and Miguel. I didn't even know they did music together. Wow. They got a couple songs. Yeah, for sure. Lil Wayne and T-Pain. Lil Wayne and T-Pain. That song Bang by Miguel and J. Cole. What's that? Can you believe? Stay in love or some shit like that. That shit might. Jay-Z and Beyonce, number seven. Jay-Z and Beyonce. Number seven. Okay, I guess they married. They do have a couple of dits together. Yeah. Sweet Dog and Charlie Wilson. I don't know who that is. Come on. First name Wilson And I was wondering You see you was white for real I thought you was black a little bit I ain't listening to all this singing ass shit That ain't for me Charlie Wilson did the same drugs you did Yeah You thought made me want to listen to his gay ass music I don't even know who the fuck he is No offense to me No you fuck with him Yeah It was a state Future and the Weeknd I didn't even know they did music to him They got a whole album together Oh yeah that was a good song But they did a whole album together I think they got a whole album I don't like listening to trick music bro Yeah I don't like it Like for real like she ain't got an AP to AMA bitch modern R &B sucks ass I'm a R &B thug though bro but trick music I'm not a fan of trick music modern R &B is like I'm gonna buy you a Birkin and eat your pussy I just seen it in the tent they just reminded me R.

2:09:33Kelly and Jay Z they got whole albums together yeah I was already thinking about that they stole my boys accolades I bet you they did that on his list

2:09:40K Mac:BS stop I better kept going I don't think so they not on his list I bet you Ain't nobody checking for that shit. They should be on the list. Right after that, he pissed on the kids so that everybody just fell off. I'm not super sad about declaring omission. Even R. Kelly was heaven sent. Yeah. Like, imagine peeing on the children was heaven sent. R. Kelly got supporters. Epstein fucked it up. R. Kelly legit got supporters. No, no, no. The heaven sent shit, I think Epstein was like fucked it up. I think the only worst name he could have said was Netanyahu. Who? Oh, if he said that it would have been so funny.

2:10:21He's a guy that is the president of Israel. Yeah, if he said that it would have been so shit. I ain't got no history book. We would have had a great day on Twitter. The internet hates this fool like a motherfucker. Bad. Oh, hell yeah. He said the internet would have had a great day with that name. Bombing motherfucking heist hospital with kids. Bro, he's janky as fuck. He's like purposely bombing hospitals. Okay. Literally the J.K. is a human being alive. Okay. I'm behind.

2:10:49K Mac:I think that for sure Ant and Spody Face need to get drafted. To the ward? Yeah. I think you guys could do damage in Iran. I want you to be there for the ground force invasion. They releasing black people. I'm not fighting where they releasing us. That ain't my ward. We should release more of them if they're down to go to Iran. Oh, they're crazy. Have you seen that, presidents? I ain't got no color with Iranians. going on here. It's going to be the second coming of Muhammad Ali. I know what's going on. You're going in a boxing direction? Man, look. I need to go to the war. You don't need to draft me.

2:11:23I don't have a problem with the Vietcons and whoever these people is, but I don't even know them people. What's going on? Y 'all trying to take them people's shit. They pay me a bullshit pension. I ain't doing no fighting. If I can't get in on the big scheme of things, the oil and all the shit going on, don't draft me. You'll get some kickbacks. Don't draft me. I need generational wealth like y 'all get. Don't get me to kick back monthly shit. No. You're saying that you'll go slide on an Enemigo for your big homie,

2:11:52K Mac:but you won't go slide on an Iranian for Donald Trump. You are not heaven sent. You're goddamn right. Not heaven sent. I was staying in this community, and if you came over here, you know what I'm saying, offending somebody, I got to defend where I stay at. It's my community. Heaven sent. Throw up the three. God told you. I went out. I went from heaven. The camera right here. Shit is all right going all right, man. People at home and Hefe, not Heavenson. I fuck with the Iranian people. They releasing black people over there, man. Shout out to him. Hey, the people are going to tell you and Heavenson.

2:12:21They're going to tell you Donald Trump not Heavenson.

2:12:23K Mac:I bet you'll have a worse time in an Iranian jail than me. I bet y 'all wouldn't. I bet you. I bet y 'all wouldn't. You'd be on the same white religion as them, I guess. No, I ain't. Might find some common ground. Hey, Adam. Hey, I bet y 'all. Yeah? You just mentioned boxing. you got some tough guys around this camp you need to have no jumper promotions and broker deals to get on the Brand Risk card you got nigga spotty face and you got no jumper affiliate the homie Smiley nigga they go whoop ass listen I am perfectly happy to try to put you guys into these situations it's just a situation where like literally none of you box or train at all they got county jail training imagine me reaching out to Brand Risk though and saying like hey I got these guys that want to fight and they'll say like oh are they training no do you have any footage of them no what am I going to say hold on Blueface was in jail two years doing K2 no training no K2 man listen they was doing Spice this whole prison time you got rappers you got rappers up in there with no training they just quitting no but they but they are training I mean we can easily go to the gym and quit like we signed for the fight and we gonna go up in there and train and I'm not even just talking like a lot of shit I've seen besides like the blue face ruger shit like bro even with street fighting everybody making these motherfucking excuses bro I wouldn't win in there and bro did exceptionally more than all these dudes I've been seeing bro like even on the street fight level even if people try to say oh you can't box even abandoning the street fighting these dudes street fighting was terrible like if this was street fighting they was doing that shit was terrible I completely agree and I really wanted to switch over to the members stream right now but Nathan just walked out of the room so I'm gonna have to fucking pivot here somehow since we got 60 more seconds right okay Hey, Adam, I'm making it to your due diligence.

2:14:07I'm about to push for the snow jumper, nigga crew. You got tough guys here for what? I want to. I'm trying to get Krip Mag in there. I'm trying to get King Peele in there. We don't know about this. You're going to lose. You talking about King Peele. That's what I'm saying. You talking about training. You talking about King Peele, bro. He got out there and fought. You can't say a word about King Peele because he got in there and fought while you've been painting houses in that white outfit. Fuck King Peele. I understand something about it. He quit. He's a quitter. Fuck King Peele. Okay. But again, he got in the ring.

2:14:35He trained. He got in the ring. He fought. No, he did way better than me. No, he didn't. He lasted like a bunch of rounds. He almost went the distance.

2:14:48K Mac:You can't compare yourself to him. He got in there and fought. Quit. I'm trying to get Vell in there. Vell is actually training. You guys got to start training. Imagine me telling Brandress, hey, I really want to get this dude's sporty face in there. Oh, okay. Do you have any training footage? No. Is he training right now? No. We're going to get him going. Yeah, but he got to get going on his own before they're going to want to get him out to Miami and pay him to fight. Hey, but hold on. Bro, look. I nominate the bros. My key ways. Listen, I want to make that happen. It's just I have to see some initiative before I try to get you in there.

2:15:22Listen, you don't know what we're doing. We just don't put it on social media. No, you're not doing it. You're not training. If you were, we would know. How do you know that, though? Just say you don't got to like that like whack.

2:15:30K Mac:If you're keeping it secret, that's just as good as you not doing it. Because Brand Risk is a social media oriented boxing promotion. They're not really all that concerned about if you're a great fighter. They're much more concerned about, do you have an audience? And can you drive people to watch their content? Man, I got way bigger audience than King Pills. What are you talking about? I don't know. You sound crazy. I told you that he's got... King Pills is way more famous than you. He's been way more viral, bro. You sound crazy. I mean, he probably... That I agree with. But as far as audience, he's got a couple thousand followers, bro.

2:15:59Team Pills is way bigger than you. I'm sorry. You sound crazy. Well, I'm confused.

2:16:02K Mac:You want to do a poll? You sound crazy. We want to do a poll. Me and Spudy Pace had this conversation already, bro. You sound crazy. Yeah, he's bigger than me at weight. He bigger than me at weight. And name recognition. And virality, bro. You sound crazy. Well, that's what I'm confused about because the second ago, I thought it was about them not training. But then it's like. No, no, no. No, no, no. He said it's both. That's out of bullshit. That's why. No, no, no. He said virality. Team Pills sucked his dick. And now he buddy-buddy-fritty-fritty with him. He can't even fight, bro. And he fight with his head down.

2:16:31He quit. He quit. Well, after he sucked his dick, Lush did it. What the fuck?

2:16:38K Mac:Chad GPT says Spoddy Face is more famous than King Pills. Thank you. Thank you. I disagree, but that's what the AI says. I disagree. Go with the numbers. No, if you go with the numbers, you're really not going to like the conclusions. And as a time, y 'all talking about I just be talking, go with the numbers. No, no. That's as of recently, bro. As of recently what? No jumper. No, it's not. What do you, bro? I don't know. See, you just got pooled on. You just got pooled on. Now you're trying to move the goalpost again. No, it ain't the goalpost again. Because when I first said what I said. If I reach out to Brand Risk, I'm going to say I'm going to be more likely to recommend somebody who's A, boxing consistently and training, or B, that has any kind of footage.

2:17:20K Mac:Like that's the number one thing they're going to ask for is like, oh, let's see some footage of them boxing. I got MMA footage, bro. I do MMA, but the boxing is easy. If King Peel can go up in there, that's not he quick. Why keep using him as a metric? Because that's who he pushing for. What are you talking about? But you're not going to tap out, right? No, that's what I'm saying. He got the question. If he can push for King Peel to get on brand wrist, why is he not pushing for Spodeface to get on brand wrist? Because Spodeface is not doing anything to suggest that you want to box. Says who, though?

2:17:44K Mac:This might be like the first time you've even mentioned it. Or like second or third time. It told me that you wanted me to fight. I told you intelligence accepted. What are you talking about? But I'm just saying, if you want to get on brand wrist, it's kind of a big deal. You're going to have to get some training in. Compare yourself to somebody that went all the distance, though. You got the K-Max. You got the, you know what I'm saying? You got the, like, compare yourself to, like, Blue Face. You know what I'm saying? You're going to have to take your glasses off in the ring. Wait a second. What's that supposed to mean?

2:18:13I was just warning you. What's that supposed to mean? I'm coming with the cream while I'm doing Jambore goggles on.

2:18:20K Mac:shout out to everybody please smash the like button we are about to switch over to members only for another couple hours of content shout out to all our members that being said smash the like button and we will see you on the members only stream