In short
The hosts debate multiple hip-hop/media controversies, centering on VladTV’s release of alleged “snitch paperwork” about Boosie, plus arguments about Chrisean Rock/Blueface (pregnancy, DNA tests, lawsuits, alleged crimes), and industry positioning/content politics. They also discuss JAP5 vs Hoover/Crip narratives, Krip Mac’s boxing/boxing-match context, and streaming-platform legal/ethical scandals (including Clav).
Guests/backgrounds
No formal guest list is clearly identified; the episode features recurring speakers including Vlad (referenced), Adam (No Jumper/Adam22), and others mentioned in conversation (e.g., academics, Whack 100, Crip Mac, JAP5, Selena Powell, Blueface, Chrisean Rock). Crip Mac and JAP5 are discussed via clips/mentions rather than as in-studio guests.
Key claims
- Vlad released documents claiming Boosie (Storrs Hatch) blamed a security guard for guns while admitting he placed an illegal firearm on the seat for a music video.
- The hosts argue Chrisean Rock’s pregnancy behavior allegedly caused her child’s issues; they claim she refused DNA testing and discuss a planned DNA service in court.
- They allege Chrisean Rock plotted robberies and may be involved in violence, while framing Blueface as not the father.
Notable examples
San Diego gun arrest paperwork; “Vlad responds to Boosie” video; robo-call voter suppression scheme; JAP5 Hoover/Pop Smoke narrative; Krip Mac vs “Junior Butterbean” (slap/open-handed events); Selena Powell’s management deal dispute; Clav’s alleged underage/alcohol-related case.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOBoosie's Legal Troubles
0:45 to 2:30
The hosts discuss Boosie's recent legal issues and his behavior surrounding them.
“Okay, I didn't get to that part yet, but you tell me, what is the gist of the snitch quote-unquote paperwork?”
Exposing the Snitch Paperwork
2:30 to 4:45
The hosts talk about Boosie's snitch paperwork and its implications.
“at the video who put the camera on the gun that on his body that they found in the car they're trying to tell him we got you dead bang and what nothing else he could do.”
Vlad's Media Presence
4:45 to 6:48
Discussion on Vlad's credibility and presence in the hip-hop news space.
“While Hatch falsely claimed that both firearms were found in the security guard's bag and not on the seat, he did admit that he had to put that firearm on there for the video.”
Scandalous Robo Calls
6:48 to 9:30
The hosts discuss a scandal involving robo calls aimed at disenfranchising voters.
“So they're basically doing these calls to try to scare the shit out of all these poor...”
Jab 5 and New York Controversy
9:30 to 12:30
A discussion about Jab 5's actions in New York and the surrounding controversy.
“He owns, but he does not run the NoJumper IG.”
Content Creation and Consequences
12:30 to 14:00
The hosts explain the dynamics between content creation and public perception.
“as a story because i actually know enough about the hoovers to know that jap five and block star are not exactly the same generation.”
The Dynamics of Online Narrative
14:00 to 21:28
Explore how public figures engage with media narratives and the implications.
“post like that, if he was doing an interview on the platform.”
Crip Mac and JAP5 Tensions
21:28 to 22:49
Discussion on the relationship and conflicts between Crip Mac and JAP5.
“Cuh didn't do the same with the respect towards me.”
Krishan's Controversial Parenting
22:49 to 28:00
Debate on Krishan's parenting choices and their potential impact.
“But I think whatever ass whooping Jack 5 gave Krip Mack kind of made Krip Mack want to say, I don't want no partial dude no more.”
Consequences of Neglecting Prenatal Care
28:00 to 30:03
The hosts discuss the implications of neglecting proper care during pregnancy.
“But every time she was down in liquor, smoking, and God knows what else.”
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Legal Battles and Media Attention
30:03 to 31:26
Discussion on potential lawsuits and the public's interest in the case.
“Yeah, I don't think she wants to play this game.”
Exposing Relationship Dynamics
31:26 to 33:18
Exploring the complex relationships and allegations among the individuals involved.
“And to have them now kind of embracing me with the Soka Sean thing, really into that.”
Suspicions and Allegations of Violent Actions
33:18 to 35:48
Hosts delve into serious allegations surrounding violence and manipulation.
“Baby daddy called and told me, Wax, I'm not dumb as people think I am.”
Criminal Intent and Planning
35:48 to 37:54
Discussion about potential criminal schemes and intentions revealed in text messages.
“Now that we know that Dirk is not what they said he was, I heard she got a little pab knocked off too.”
Reflections on Personal Relationships
37:54 to 41:37
The hosts reflect on personal experiences with individuals in the entertainment scene.
“Telling him where the money was, where he puts his jewelry.”
Selena's Expectations and Personal Interaction
42:00 to 45:20
Discussing Selena's attitude and expectations in social situations.
“It's just straight up, I'm treating you like a random dude on the street.”
Management Drama and Deal-Breakers
45:20 to 48:20
Exploring the fallout between Selena and her management over deals and relevance.
“AB and Dean put the calls in, submit the shit.”
Clav's Controversial Situation
48:20 to 51:30
Examining Clav's legal troubles and implications of underage drinking.
“I think it should just be a database where you can go in there and put a chick's information, and if they show up, they're 18.”
Kendrick's Impact on AZ Chike
51:30 to 55:40
Analyzing Kendrick's influence on AZ Chike and the absence of a feature.
“Just overall, now I'm kind of like talking to the people and I'm really seeing what it is.”
Kendrick's Decision on AZ Chike's Verse
56:00 to 58:20
Analyzing Kendrick Lamar's choice to withhold a verse from AZ Chike's album.
“get into it yeah do you think that Kendrick screwed him over by not coming through with the verse especially after it was like it was all in the media the conversation about if he was going to get a verse or not.”
The State of Music Sales Today
58:20 to 1:01:40
Discussing the changing landscape of album sales and streaming in hip hop.
“he featured on, and they wouldn't pay attention.”
Jay-Z's Role in the Culture
1:01:40 to 1:08:20
Examining Jay-Z's decisions and influence on black culture and the NFL.
“was I don't think Kendrick would have cared less.”
The Conflict of Cultural Responsibility
1:08:20 to 1:10:01
Debating the balance between personal gain and cultural representation in celebrity decisions.
“So he made a decision that was unselfish to the culture, but had a direct effect on him as an individual.”
Jay-Z and Kaepernick's Disconnection
1:10:01 to 1:11:35
Discussing Jay-Z's relationship with Kaepernick and the implications of celebrity endorsements.
“What I'm saying is I don't think Kaepernick and Jay-Z were that close to where he was going to consider what your movement is.”
Doughboy's Gang Involvement
1:11:36 to 1:12:19
Debating the authenticity of Doughboy's claims about gang affiliation and recent behavior.
“This is like my favorite rapper of all time, but like the more I think about it, I'm just more like, man, he is evil.”
Munchie B's Accusations and Cheating Drama
1:12:20 to 1:14:49
Exploring the fallout between Doughboy and Munchie B regarding infidelity and allegations of snitching.
“We just got on this dumb ass dude for fucking trying to make Moose Man a gang member.”
Doughboy's Confusing Claims
1:14:50 to 1:17:48
Analyzing Doughboy's claims about gang ties and the implications of his recent comments.
“Well it turns out if you're Doughboy you can so yeah.”
The Fight Cancellation Drama
1:17:49 to 1:20:26
Revisiting the circumstances surrounding the cancellation of a planned fight and the dynamics involved.
CCW Classes and Personal Safety
1:20:27 to 1:23:59
Discussing the importance of gun safety and personal safety measures, including CCW classes.
“because it's like, alright, Adam not doing it, I'm not doing it.”
Discussion on Dolly Parton and Her Legacy
1:24:00 to 1:25:10
The hosts engage in a light-hearted conversation about Dolly Parton's impact and personal life.
“This is an insane question to ask the chat.”
Dolly Parton's Marital History
1:25:10 to 1:26:22
The hosts discuss Dolly Parton's marriage and the nature of her past relationships.
“She said she never cheated, but she did say that she had little affairs.”
Personal Updates and Future Plans
1:26:22 to 1:27:41
The hosts share personal updates about their lives and discuss plans for the upcoming week.
“We'll be live and direct in the studio next week.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00It says we're live. Listen, bro. Hello, Unc. Listen, man. I have to step down from my seat. Vlad is the official new Vlad 100. He got five beefs going on at one time, and he doesn't seem to be stopping. Nah, he's all over it, man. It's crazy. I was watching the video on stream of him going in on Boosie about the whole pardon and everything. Boosie is increasingly looking like possibly the dumbest criminal of all time. Did you see he exposed the paperwork I was talking about a few years ago? His niche paperwork. Wait, what? I don't think I got to that part yet. Yes, he exposed the paperwork. Vlad up tech broke.
0:48We asked Vlad up. he's now a mixture of him you me academics six line trolling he's tasmanian black i think uh when he went and did fourth of july with you and all the bloods that maybe uh that changed him a little bit he was in the element i'm looking for okay because so vlad put out a new video called Vlad responds to Boosie's threat and shows Boosie's snitch paperwork. Okay, so yeah, I didn't actually. Who does this sound like, Adam? Who does this sound like? Okay, I didn't get to that part yet, but you tell me, what is the gist of the snitch quote-unquote paperwork? Adam, you remember I exposed this a long time ago when he first got caught in San Diego.
1:39The minute the cops grabbed him, he started putting a gun on the security guard. But a security guard has a legal gun that he checked on the plane. So this dirty gun, whether on him, security guard, me or you, is a felony. The security guard never claimed a gun. Bootsy's telling the cops, this dirty gun is my security guard. The security guard is saying, no, it ain't. This is my legal gun that I got paperwork on and checked on the plane. I've been exposed to this shit so then Boosie kept pushing it or did he just kind of give up on that argument once the security guard said it wasn't true well once the security guard said it wasn't true and Boosie realized the guy that was on IG live at the video who put the camera on the gun that on his body that they found in the car they're trying to tell him we got you dead bang and what nothing else he could do.
2:43So the state is communicating with the feds. The feds tell the state, drop it. We're going to pick it up like they did Mazda. They did Mazda the same way. Drop the gun in the state so the feds can pick it up. But on paperwork, he was screaming, it's my security guard's gun. It's not my security guard saying, hell no. That ain't my gun. That's a dirty gun. Should I play how this actually sounds with Vlad talking about it for the people? Yeah, you might as well. Shit, that's bro's here. Let's give him some exposure. Now, here's the actual paperwork from Boosie's arrest. Now, Boosie's real name is Storrs Hatch.
3:23So in the paperwork, when you see Hatch, it's actually referring to Boosie. Now, as some of you know, Boosie, who is a felon and is not allowed to actually hold a gun, was caught on video in San Diego for actually having a gun in his back during a music video. As he was leaving, he was arrested. Let's go through the actual report. While attempting to stop, officers saw the head profiles of Hatch and an individual later identified as his security guard moving back and forth and side to side. When the vehicle was finally pulled over, officers found a firearm in the black bag of Hatch's security guard.
4:00Now, this is the actual legal gun that Boosie Security brought with him to California. Okay? But officers also found a firearm on the rear passenger seat between Hatch and his security guard. The firearm was loaded and matched the description from the Instagram Live video. Here's the important part. Hatch claimed that the firearms with an S, meaning both guns, belonged to his security guard. But the second gun, which Boosie had on him in the music video, was not the security guard's gun. That was an illegal gun that the security guard was not going to claim. Let's keep reading. In Exhibit 2, a clip of Hatch's statement in custody, Boosie repeatedly attempted to shift the blame to his security guard.
4:52While Hatch falsely claimed that both firearms were found in the security guard's bag and not on the seat, he did admit that he had to put that firearm on there for the video. As shown below, the firearm was found on the seat between Hatch and his security. This is no different than me and you going for a drive, and I got a brick in the trunk, and then we get pulled over by the cops, they search the car, they find the brick, and I put it on you. I said, look at him. He's the one with the brick. Adam I exposed this shit like two years ago bro you used to look at me like whack you full of shit I'm like bro he told me but okay it's all about the messenger too but like think about it Vlad as much as much as you might not as much as there may be some negativity within the hip-hop community towards Vlad he is generally viewed as a guy who's pretty straight up when it comes to the news.
5:54I don't think that he's somebody who's viewed as being hyperbolic or exceptionally clickbaity when it comes to like how he talks about current events. The fact that this video is even titled shows Boosie snitch paperwork. I mean, now we're talking. Now watch this. Let me tell you what Boosie's not going to do. And I hope he doesn't. He's not going to say, I'm suing you, Vlad, for defamation. You know why? Because at that point, they will have to release the video and audio. The same shit I got on Max B now, his real audio. And once people really hear his voice doing it, he's done. But at the end of the day, bro, look, Vlad's not backing down.
6:42I think that his circle has been reinforced. he knows he has a solid group of guys around him right he knows that he like he knows that we're gonna be supportive he knows that he can call on certain things now not have to worry about it so you know hey i'm happy for him bro shit go for what he knows bro he called in the dudes he gave the 600 ,000 to which i believe will help booty i don't think those guys should have did that interview because i'm pretty sure he's gonna sue to try to get some money back um but you know what they said they said that like they're just gonna go bankrupt so they won't be able to sue him which it seems like these guys have that all thought out in advance because they did seem like pretty friggin slippery operators if you if you ask me those two dudes are sketchy as and it lets you know bro you can't judge a book by its cover just because they come in suit and ties you know and they talk in a good one you better have your ducks in order these days because people are scammers did you hear the robo calls that they were doing no i didn't so those guys had been convicted in the past and this is probably like the most cartoonishly evil idea that you've ever heard in your life they got a conviction both of them i think yeah not not just one of them i think it was both of them for basically running like a robo call center where it's like you know thousands of calls being placed to all of the low income black neighborhoods in a certain district basically convincing them that if they vote by mail that they will have to get vaccinated that the that the man will be able to track them that like all these bad things are going to happen basically trying to disenfranchise black voters because these black voters are probably going to largely vote for the Democratic candidate and they're trying to make sure the Republican candidate wins.
8:42So they're basically doing these calls to try to scare the shit out of all these poor... Yeah, yeah, yeah. I assume a large percentage of these people were black and that is just the craziest crime that... You could have sat here for 100 years and never thought of something that diabolical. What are we talking about? Hey, listen. All I'm going to say is, bro, those of us that are behind better catch up and those of us that are current better keep staying ahead because it's coming in many forms that type of shit like i hear that and i'm like how stupid could you be but then you got to say well how many people really believed it and also like how many people are gonna like pay attention to a robo call personally i would never hear like a word of it because i would just exit out of the phone call but when you're talking about like really low income people they might be the same kind of people old people who would be like oh i heard that if i vote by mail that i'm gonna have to get vaccinated this type of shit you know so hey i'm just saying these guys are sketchy and then when the guys when the guy's talking about the prosecutor or the judge who uh who convicted him of that he starts calling her a lesbian starts going off on her calling her communist or some shit like he's just those dudes are wild yo um i i seen your jason lee i didn't even know you did a jason lee interview that's a good look yeah jason is as messy messy professional as they come well he's supposed to be the messy guy but then when i'm sitting there talking to him it seems like i'm the messy one like he's on the hook in the conversation loving every minute of it because i am so messy and he's kind of not used to it well you gotta understand adam we don't care if it's what it is we ain't sparing that we don't care and that's what's dangerous i'm like look bro i tell i'm like bro the white boy don't care bro i don't care what you say what you want i'm getting calls from everybody uh Jab 5 is not too happy.
10:55I had to tell him, Adam does not run. He owns, but he does not run the NoJumper IG. He runs Adam22 IG. Okay, what was he mad about, though? Well, they put up a thing saying Hoover Crip goes to New York gang responsible for Pop Smoke and records and hangs out with Fabio Ford. Which I'm telling him, hey bro, Adam doesn't post. He can but he Adam22's IG is where he's at. It's four or five people and if you look at the bottom of it, it usually tells you who put this up. So he thought that you were trying to sabotage it. Take a positive thing of him going out there and turn it into something like, oh, you guys are letting Hoover come out here although this.
12:01And I'm like, I'm willing to bet it's an intern. And what was crazy about it, the news from New York is telling him, whack 100 behind you. Whack's making him do it. right and you know adam we don't really see it until somebody sends it to us or pops up on the feed right come to find out it's the intern from new york which makes sense because it's some new york type shit going on right i mean listen i don't really i wouldn't have probably posted that as a story because i actually know enough about the hoovers to know that jap five and block star are not exactly the same generation. When that pop smoke shit happened, Jap 5 was locked up.
12:46And so Jap 5 tapping in with some Crips in Brooklyn, who cares? That's regular shit. But I understand how people would kind of try to run with that narrative. But the idea that Jap 5 has to be careful who he messes with because of anything that any Hoover has ever done before is super dumb. We all know that's not how it works. It's not exactly like Blockstar's Jap 5's day one. In which case, yeah, then it would be of note. But the one thing I will say, though, and I heard Vlad say this the other day, and I actually thought it summarized how this game works, which is we can do content together or I can make content about you.
13:25We can do content together or you can become content. So my attitude on somebody like Jab5, who at one point I was trying to pay him to do an interview, and he actually ended up doing Vlad for free instead, And is that like, well, if you don't want to do content on no jumper, but we deem you to be newsworthy, then we're just going to make content about you. We'll talk about you. And, you know, if you don't want to like take the call to comment on what we're talking about, then we'll just have the conversation without you. And it's not like a threat or anything. That's just like how it works. So it's like, if job five wants any kind of like job five could ask me to take down a post like that, if he was doing an interview on the platform.
14:08but I don't really owe you anything because you're not, you know, you did do one interview like six years ago or whatever, but if you're not, if you're not trying to be on the platform, well, guess what? You're still going to be on the platform. It's just not going to be the way that you want. And I kind of was telling him like, Hey bro, if you come into this game as a rapper or whatever it is, and you got any type of motion or any type of something, you got to have thick skin. You're going to be talked about good, good, bad, or indifferent is going to happen. I said, I don't think Adam's targeting you.
14:42No. But he seems to think that. I said, I don't think so. But the thing about JAP5 is that at the end of the day, C-Mac is one of our main characters, and he is C-Mac's mortal enemy. So as a result, there's going to be some content to be had there. My main thing with JAP5 is it's like, let's have a relationship where we can do content together so that I'm not forced to just make content about you, you know? Either way it goes. What you're saying is as long as you part of the narrative, it's going to be a story. Either you're controlling the narrative or y 'all just going to run something to where the narrative is what they say it is.
15:26Yeah, I mean, like, think about somebody like, you know, I mean, Kendrick's kind of like a weird example to use because he's so big and he's so rare and never really does like anything media-wise or whatever. but you know our platform academics platform or whatever has been like pretty critical of Kendrick and on the other hand very favorable towards Drake now I think me and Ak would both say that that would be our opinion regardless but the fact that Drake reaches out has a conversation with people in the media does stuff for them and you know in any way gives them a look or a cosign or whatever that's like super meaningful and obviously is going to kind of like help cushion the blow next time drake has a negative scandal that's okay pr was like i mean to me that's just obvious i think we like currently kind of live in the age of like big-headed celebrities though who think that they don't have to do that but what what they kind of end up figuring out is like oh shit it probably like look at boosie vlad is still getting tons of views off of boosie it's just him talking about boosie and not in a very favorable light can you imagine the way that Vlad would have been running defense for Boosie about this whole$600 ,000 pardon thing if they were still cool?
16:36Look, half these clips wouldn't be out. Facts. And I tell people, this is how this world is working, whether you like it or not. They're like, yo, whack, man. Bro, all the other shit you do, why would you even go sit at no jumping? For one, no jumping's the biggest platform on the West Coast. You guys don't like to fucking keep it real with this. Two, One thing I always liked is how Adam gave people opportunity who nobody else would or probably wouldn't be deserving of it because they just didn't qualify. He worked with them to learn the position. Three, goddammit, I understand the wave of things.
17:18I don't give a fuck. I got all kinds of shit going on. These things have nothing to do with the lane, with the positioning, the mountain of no jumping. Right. It all ties in. Everybody at the table. No jumper, academics, Vlad, you keep naming them. You go Trap Lord, Remo, Flacco, WAC 100. We're all at the same table. I'm not a visitor. I have a seat. The irony of people being so critical of me making content with other people or giving people jobs or whatever is that 99 % of people in my position ball hog the clout. They keep all the clout to themselves. Think about, okay, I'll give you an example.
18:11Shout out to our boy 6ix9ine. You remember like the heat of the 6ix9ine moment when he was really popping off in 2018 or whatever it was? He had all these rappers around him. He had all these Brooklyn fucking bloods around him and stuff. How many of them even got to the point where like 1 % of the 6ix9ine fans knew who those dudes were. 6ix9ine was hogging the clout so hard, and he was smart to do so realistically because, yeah, you like everybody that you give a verse to, everybody that you let sit next to in an interview, whatever, you're making their whole career right there. They're going to be able to monetize that for many years to come, and you don't want to give that out frivolously.
18:50The thing about me is that from the very beginning, I have always made no jumper about giving opportunities to other podcasters. And as a result, almost every significant podcaster in Los Angeles has come through No Jumper in one way or another. And instead of like me getting the credit for putting on all of these people who realistically are almost all racial minorities, instead of that, I get like judged because some percentage of them don't end up working out or end up killing people and going to jail or whatever. It's so stupid. As soon as you lend a hand, when you lend a hand, you're just inviting so much criticism.
19:35If I could go back in time, I would have never helped anybody. Nah, I mean, listen, it got no jump of where it is now. Nah, facts. And it's been a storm. We've watched things shift, change, new things come in. And all those new things come in, the streaming, the kick, all this stuff comes in. All these people still making a point to come through No Jumper. Still to this day. And No Jumper still has a lane and a door open. I don't care what's going on, if it's streaming event, boxing event, whatever event. If you look at all the other platforms, right, the table is – Adam, think about it. The table is the only ones there.
20:20We go to Aiden Ross events. Axe there. I'm there. You're there. Flash there. The fucking table is there, right? So they can say what they want. A lot of these dudes are regional. You're regional. You're right here in this box. And because you hear the chatter around town, it makes you think you're larger than life. But when you go look at your overall viewership, you see you're not making it east of the Mississippi River. Yeah, many such cases. Yo, I want to play this right before. This is, I asked Crip Mac about JAP5, and listen to what he had to say. That nigga been fighting since Cove was a kid.
21:01Cove. Yeah, Cove beat me up on neighborhood Crip. Cove, we're not mentioning Cove. Oh, you don't like him anymore? That's words from General Big Nuts. Cove say quit giving these niggas clout. Cove. On neighborhood Crip. Cove. That's it. Ain't no respect. Cuh. On hood. Damn, we were all... Cuh did that to get five minutes. Cuh, five minutes now, making his dollars. Take care of your kids, boy, on neighborhood crib. And leave that shit like that. On hood. Cuh. You have changed your tone. On hood. Yeah, it's words from older generals. Like, cuh, neighborhood crib. Don't get enemies. No clout, nigga.
21:29Cuh. I mean, I think that's fair. Cuh didn't do the same with the respect towards me. Cuh. Exactly. On hood. Just like that. I would like to see you guys get along, but, you know... We can't even feed the homeless together. Cuh. Did you try? I don't want to do it. But did you try? You said, jab, let's go feed the bombs? I thought it was cool. I don't want to feed nobody. I don't give a fuck with no way but himself. But cut will help some kids, so that's cool. Cut help the kids. Cut them up. I feel like his Hoover elder statesman would probably be like, we don't want you handing out Little Caesars with Crip Mac.
22:02That's.
22:05His tone has changed. Yeah, bro. I mean, at the end of the day, he was starting to look crazy because he was like. He was bigging him up a little too much. He was giving the Japs some crazy respect. But I understand it. You're respecting Japs, but then you're disrespecting Hoover at the same time. Yeah, no. I totally get it. But it is pretty funny because I was like pointing out like, wow, you're being a little too positive about this dude. and then his tone when he was talking about Krip Mac on Vlad was so negative. And then I guess Krip Mac got a little lecture from one of the big homies. We say OG Nutso, which is a great name.
22:45But so, yeah, I guess that's how that shit changed. But then what's even more notable is that Krip Mac tried to feed the homeless with him, and Jap 5 said no. Yeah, he not coming. But Krip Mac should understand. I think I'm going to be real. But I think whatever ass whooping Jack 5 gave Krip Mack kind of made Krip Mack want to say, I don't want no partial dude no more. Because he was a little too overly generous when his name came up. He was like, you're like, whoa. And then the next second, he had dissed the whole Hoover card. So it was like, I did his homies. Like, hey, look, bro, stop doing that.
23:27You're giving this dude too much. He already whooped your ass. You talk about it. that you say he's this, he's that, he's this, he's that. He ain't saying nothing about you, but what you ain't. You're making us look bad, so I get it. Yeah, no, totally. I get it. Do you think Krip Mac can get in the boxing ring with him?
23:47Okay, so we haven't talked yet about Krip Mac taking the L to Butterbean's son. Well, I don't even call that really a L. Right, I mean, but it— That dude was in there wrestling and MMAing. Well, okay, I guess Butterbean's son, that was his first win. He lost a lot of fights in the lead-up to that fight, but that was the first time he ever actually came out victorious. I mean, I was watching it, and I'm like, he's roughhousing the shit out of CritMac. Because he's bigger than CritMac. He was roughhousing. I knew CritMac wasn't going to last two rounds with that going on. He was out of gas. It wasn't about him boxing.
24:30He was in there in a wrestling match. Yeah, no. I looked up his son's boxing record and it said that he has one loss and zero wins. Oh, what the hell? The fighter who just beat Cribmag is a different person who fights under the moniker Junior Butterbean and has no actual relation to the original Butterbean. They sold the fight. what that is so crazy he looks like him what is this other junior i'm not mad at him butter beans record we need to know his record um oh okay so he only does slap slash open-handed fighting events because i guess they have these weird gloves that are like yeah you can't make a fist with them which is insane but yeah he only had two fights and he he lost against or he won against crit mag and he lost against some other guy before so what network was that bro what was that they were fighting on what was that i guess it was called the smack card oh gosh that's what you were talking about when he didn't want to fight for brand risk but he took his money over here oh it's owned by that guy damon feldman who you remember him the guy from a celebrity boxing he's a bullshit guy yeah i Because I was talking to him and you were telling me that he's a piece of shit.
25:57And then he got pissed off when he found out that that's what you were saying or something like that. His brother's a real guy. He fights out of temper. I did want a blue face first fight with his brother. But David is. He just called me the other day. Oh, wait. Let's do a blue face fight. Damon, you ain't got enough money, Damon. Maybe this guy isn't who I'm thinking of because he doesn't look the same as the guy I was thinking of. Damon Feldman. Barhead dude. That's him. White dude. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, this is the guy I know. Okay. That's him. Yeah, he's been running around trying to get in boxes for many moves.
26:29At least I go back to like 2010 with him. And he would always bring something, but then I needed to go get the money. Never had the money. Never. Always missing something. So it's good to see he did Christian's. Not the last one, the previous one. Right. It was good to at least see him complete something. So I talk to that. Hey, all right. So let's talk about that one. When I went on Jason Lee, I talked about Krishan, and I made it perfectly clear that I think that she probably is responsible for her son's health problems and developmental issues as a result of her drinking and smoking throughout the pregnancy, allegedly based on what I saw in clips.
27:09And that clip had a life of its own and has really taken off. People are really giving me credit for saying this about her. I thought everybody was saying this about her. I've heard a million people say this about her. This is like the most common thing in the world that people talk about off camera. Bro, me and you both know it, but listen, they have a clip out there where the lady says, why are you drinking? You're pregnant. She says, I can go aboard this baby tomorrow. What difference does it make? Literally, on camera, show it. But on top of that, bro, I've had to snatch bottles from America to London.
27:53Bottles, her turned up, out her hand like, hey, you're not doing that in front of me. And she may have been in my presence maybe once every two, three months. But every time she was down in liquor, smoking, and God knows what else. She wouldn't have the baby at a private hospital. a private little hole in the wall place. The exposures, when she put the pictures up, they took the pictures, found the pictures, called down to the location. That's where she had the baby at. She didn't tell anybody because she didn't want blue face on the birth certificate. So for him to have any rights whatsoever, because she kind of knew, well, Ronnie was there doing the childbirth.
28:39The other guy who was really the baby father, he was there. So that's why she didn't have him there. But like you didn't say nothing wrong, bro. You didn't say anything wrong. Charleston White called it before the pregnancy. He has a clip where Charleston White was given a full description on what that baby was going to come out and be like prior to birth. Four months before the baby was born. So I don't know why she's going to get mad at anybody, get mad at herself. That's what you did. I watched you. The world has watched you. people pulled up on you and you're chugging liquor, smoking weed, and God knows what else you were doing.
29:19You weren't doing prenatals. You weren't going to get checkups. You wasn't eating healthy. You wasn't doing any of these things. You were still fighting. You were doing all these things. So you have to blame yourself. Stop looking for the sympathy. And thank God she's finally getting some therapy for the child. Because the child's three years old. Right, because when they start talking about lawsuits, this is one of the things. This is basically my main rebuttal. If she sues me, I get to do discovery, right? Because I want to search her texts for Hennessy and Zaza during her pregnancy. Plus, I want to get access to all of her medical records related to her pregnancy.
30:02Yeah, she don't want to do that with you. Yeah, I don't think she wants to play this game. I don't think she wants to go to court and have me pulling up stream clips of her drinking alcohol in the weeks before giving birth. How's that going to look? This is the most unrealistic lawsuit ever. People who think that she's serious are insane. This will be the lawsuit that will cost you no money. You know why? The world so much wants to see all of this. Although they've seen it, they want to see it this way. we can put up a link to where everybody will donate to that link to pay for whatever needs to be paid for because they want to see it i i love that idea i love uh the the black women of of earth uh paying for my my my legal bills i think that that's great because i think those are the people that really like like that's actually the weird thing about this you got understand is that I don't know if there's ever been another time in which I felt such a surge of positivity from the female black community who largely ignore that I exist for the most part, even though I love them.
31:14I want to marry one of them. I want to date them. I want to have casual sex with them. I want to write poems about them. I want to, I want to paint them. I just, I love black women, basically, is what I'm trying to say. And to have them now kind of embracing me with the Soka Sean thing, really into that. Listen, bro. Somebody's going to, if anybody's around her with some sense, and then her sisters, they're going to tell you the truth. The clips are out there, though, bro. The clips, I've got to find, bro, the clips are everywhere. I don't even know what she's. When we had that fight in London, We went to a club afterwards.
31:56She's turning up the whole bottle like savage. You see how she eats? She eats with her hands and shit. And I'm like, yo, she hasn't been like six, seven months. Yeah. That's fucked. Dude, I just got distracted because Big Boy from OutKast DMed me back because he plays Pokemon Go too. Oh, Big Boy. He does. I swear to God, I'm going to be friends with him in the game and we're going to trade back and forth. Do you think his Pokemon Go username is like Big Boy Outkast? No. You think it's like some random shit? I think it's some random shit. Dude, it's got to be like Big Boy Unlimited. It's some random shit.
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32:41I don't think it's going to be. I see they're suing somebody. Wait, what? Wait, wait. That's the Krishan thing. I just want to put a cap in there. I just want to say it is now easier for me to talk about that because before I felt like I was kind of taking shots at blue faces, his son. And obviously I don't want the kid to be in any way, like part of this dialogue. The kid deserves to be left out of it. He's just unfortunately like the reason why we're mad at her. But now they're like blue face is not like the dad. Apparently I feel like I could speak more openly. I'm like, bro, the Zeus chest test was some fake shit.
33:17they went and exposed it she tried to flash it they called the company, checked the record number they said that record number exists but not under those names it's only one reason brother, that a female would say no, I'm not giving you a blood test hmm it's only one reason a female would say no, I'm not putting your name on a birth certificate because at that point he has a right as it is right now Blueface has no rights to that child zero crazy but he just had a junior by the best he had his first junior so he's cool, he's good it's crazy to think that like so do you think that she seriously got the actual baby daddy killed so that she could treat Blueface like the baby daddy but then Blueface basically just rejected it and was like, hell no, I ain't the baby daddy.
34:19I ain't paying for the kid. All I'm going to say is this. Baby daddy called and told me, Wax, I'm not dumb as people think I am. I said, man, you went down there to the mall and harassed this girl and called a case. Dumb as fuck. He said, Wax, this Friday when I go to court for that case, I have her right where I want her to serve her the DNA test. I can't catch her to serve her. So there's no better place to serve her than in court in front of the judge. That's what he told me. That Friday, he told me this the Wednesday prior. All I know is Keshaw took a flight Tuesday night to Baltimore. Landed Wednesday morning.
35:08Wednesday night, oh boy, was out of here. Hey man. I know he was about to serve her. So what I do know is that any foul play has happened. One of these little dirty dudes, she didn't allegedly may have gave$1 ,500 to, will eventually use it as a get out of jail free card. If she did do have anything to do with it, it eventually come out. She's blue face was in prison. He don't even know this dude. So at the end of the day, my guy's clear. And that's something she's going to have to deal with. And even to this day, she won't give that family a DNA test. I think she's the real little Dirk. Now that we know that Dirk is not what they said he was, I heard she got a little pab knocked off too.
36:00Well, she caught a murder with this Ronnie guy. Wait, what? Yeah, she caught a murder case with the Ronnie guy. Not a case. Oh, like Ronnie killed somebody? Well, From what Ronnie says, they go to the place, shit's happening. Ronnie says, Chris Sean's the one pulled the trigger. That's what he says. He says they leave the location getting away. Chris Sean calls the cops and tells the cops the shooter is at this location. Ronnie's oblivious. So when he comes out, they cuff him. he went to jail for it now I don't know how he got out of it but if you pull it up you'll see he had a case of unaliving think of a white dude or some shit in LA County so he's always said it ain't me he's always said this shit I wish I had that information when I was telling Jason Lee that I believe that she's capable of getting people knocked off because that really helps to like bolster what I was saying, which is, yeah, I think that she's got that in her heart.
37:15I don't think that that's beneath her. I think that most women would not chug Henny when they're eight months pregnant. She did. Most people would not order a body. She apparently maybe did. I mean, it's just insane. I have the text messages when I start hating her guts. You know, we collect the phones when we got those girls in the house. Her shit was still open. It was the text messages, 2020, of her communicating with a Baltimore dude, plotting and planning to rob Blueface. Telling him where the money was, where he puts his jewelry. And he fucked up and took me to his other house and they don't know it.
38:05So I guess Blueface has snuckered to the other house. He didn't want to let us know that because he knew at that time that wasn't the program. And I got the address. Here goes the load. Dropped the pin drop to that other address. Dude's telling her we're going to break this up 50-50. He got to have close to a million dollars in jewelry. This is going to be an easy lick like the other ones before. All these text messages. So Blue knew ever since that day I never fucked with her. I don't care what you do with her. I've seen that shit. And that was when? 2020. Dude, that's so crazy. I do kind of remember that.
38:45And yeah, I do think that's like her character. She's like a setup chick type who, you know, she'll revert to the setup chick mentality as soon as she has to. If she's got a guy who's taking care of her, et cetera, she'll kind of revel in that for a period of time. But at the end of the day, yeah, I think she's a fucked up enough person that for sure, I wouldn't put almost any crime past her, you know? You better watch it because all this your way is some bullshit. That's the bullshit. She said that's all the hot behind the church. Jazz is just gangbanging in the middle of Hollywood a month ago.
39:21Yeah, I know. She was in the BPSs the other day. And, yo, that's the thing, too, is what could be more Lil Durk than taking on a bunch of religions at the exact moment that you feel like maybe the feds are coming down on you because there's been so much murder taking place all around you? you think it's a coincidence she goes and fucks with a dude that's blue face neighborhoods main ops no no think about it probably not no i'm saying so i bro i tell him hey look bro watch that that's not right because she's she's an evil motherfucker bro she's evil yes very evil when you look in her eyes you can tell she's a little off oh yeah yeah she's a little off i think that's fair to say yeah i've got a lot of qualms with her but i don't know i was i was pretty shocked that that ended up taking on in such a new light uh new life just because i thought i was saying some obvious shit i've had that conversation with so many people off camera uh can i can i just say uh how was your time spent with selena powell i see she was she posted a selfie you you her and r &b oh yeah i was sleep on the couch r &b got me she uh she said they're gonna think we were screwing i said yeah probably so uh but you know selena handles me different because i've always was the guy to run her off so when i got out here i seen it heard a b and dean it kind of like something had happened so i'm like look you want to come to the stream house cool she like look let me come run the night shit and so she's been over there running the nights she got socked out last night wait really like fully knocked out is they whooped she whooped her ass seven the guy the girl seven with the seven toes okay a little skinny chick from uh coppin or carson wherever she's from selena threw a drink at bobby lights maybe some of it got on her seven whooped her ass over there out of nose bloody and all kind of shit she went and called ray j on us for some reason i wasn't there i was taking a day off to reset because that shit gets wild over there and um but other than that you know selena's cool she's cool with me she just stays and loaded bro and i told her the other day go look at little kim because you're on the verge of looking that way whatever the you're injecting in your mouth and face and you're putting on all this weight she's put on about 40 pounds i'm like you're you're really starting to look like bloopers yeah yeah that's my issue with her too is that she's just not as hot as she used to be like when when i first met her back in the day she looked like 10 years later you're really starting to see what the the rest of her life might be like and even when i did the porn scene with her a couple years ago wasn't that bad when i seen her at brand risk maybe six months ago i was looking at her yeah when she was at no dumper back then yeah we were slimmer now bro selena i told her i said selena you got a fake ass you got this fake shit and he put these injections in your mouth now you're getting a bottom chin second chin and all this shit you look i've told her you're looking crazy you need to slim up i know and that's that's the really crazy thing i think about it is that uh is that she like expects dudes to kind of like treat her like this baddie and sort of wait on her and do whatever to her when i was at brand risk i'm sitting next to her and i have a iphone charger like a charger pack in my back pocket because i've been out streaming or filming all there or whatever and and she's like let me use that and i just look at her like no and then she keeps asking over and over and i'm just like no like the answer is no like i just i don't even talk to her like another dude i was gonna say i talked to her like a dude i really i talked to her almost more like my kid not not even like my kid i talked to her like someone else's kid that i really don't like which is just like i lay the rules down i'm not around with you it's just a no and it's like you don't get to play the pretty card you don't get to play the girl card.
43:33None of these things work. It's just straight up, I'm treating you like a random dude on the street. I'm cool with you, but don't expect any special treatment from me. You wasn't there when I started trolling. I think you went to go get something. I said, hey, I just called me. This is his seat. He don't want you sitting in his pocket. Get up. She went nuts. Then she tells me the other day, did Adam tell you? I said, tell me what? That he couldn't hang? I said, what do you mean you couldn't hang? He only lasted three minutes. It was too good for him. Bro, she exaggerates that shit so much. I was just like, I don't know.
44:10Okay, can I tell you something about Plug Talk? Is that we have a clock on the wall that says how long we've been filming for. And every time we take a break, if we have to stop for a minute so the girl can grab some lube, if somebody has to go pee, whatever, we stop the clock. So at any given time, I can look up at the clock and know exactly how much banging I'm doing. and I'm normally trying to get to like 15 or 20 minutes and with her this was before we had that clock and I guess I don't know if it's because I was just having such a great time or what but after like eight minutes I felt like I had done enough and I just nutted and I don't know I guess like you know she holds that against me as if like her pussy was so good like bruh I had all the best pussies out there you are not you're not in the top 20 % you're not in the top 50 % realistically you have below average box I know they did not let her on the yacht if I had a yacht she probably would not be on you didn't see that clip oh they kicked her out because Blueface tried to go on with her well see here it is she shows up at the house she knows we're going to the yacht so Blue don't know what's going on I didn't meet him at the house I went straight from my hotel over there so they get there before me they like blue we ain't with her so blue like what shit when whack get here talk to whack he'll he'll get you all right so when i'm walking up she goes and i'm like you ain't my bitch i'm not doing none of that right i already knew what time it was so this was going on all of a sudden you saw dean and ab have selena in their mix they told her we're gonna blow you up in this streaming shit, make you relevant.
45:56We're going to get you a few deals. We want to manage 20%. Right. Right? Cool. She went along with it. Brand risk comes. Boom. They come to the table. 100 grand. Good money. Selena versus Wovic. Right? 100 grand. AB and Dean put the calls in, submit the shit. They call Selena. Yo, your management call? What? I don't have money. What do you me dean and ab no all my money goes to me so they said okay cool since you're playing it like that stay off our cameras so now she shows up to the to the yacht they like no the deal was we're gonna let you work our cameras to blow you up and get you back relevant in this lane or management position of 20%.
46:47So when she did that and cut them off, they was well in their right. They like, stay away from us. So yes, I could have probably went and persuaded them, but me knowing the situation, I'm not f***ing with that. I'm like, hey bro, whatever y 'all decision is, y 'all decision, blue face. She works the nice shit. She can go over there. Other than that, we're doing what we're doing. And I left it at that. Yeah, yeah. No, I mean, that is a weird situation because I think a lot of people have ran into that like clav for a while. He was having random girls come on stream with him, hang out with him for 24 hours.
47:22This is when he's at the peak of his viewership. And then all of a sudden it's like that girl made a hundred grand that month and he didn't get nothing from it. And so he started just signing girls left and right. Although to be fair, I don't think he's necessarily doing that or I don't know. I don't know. Clav. I don't know. I've seen some crazy shit. I didn't realize that the guy that was pouring milk on the chick was all part of the class party that was going on. I don't know. Is he out of jail, in jail? I've seen he was arrested for an attempted or some type of. Well, I'm not sure he's been arrested yet.
47:56But, yeah, they are charging him with the R word in Massachusetts from a situation where I think the girl was 17 and he was 19. And he was streaming with her. he gave her alcohol she claimed she was 18 he thought she was 18 and everything seemed like it was on the up and up but they were drinking and you know even if he thought she was 18 she still would have been underage for him to be giving alcohol to i think it needs to be some type of system because in order to put that level of responsibility on people today with fake IDs and people lying about their age. I think it should just be a database where you can go in there and put a chick's information, and if they show up, they're 18.
48:45If they don't, then they're not of legal age because it's kind of like. I would like to be the guy running that database so I can just message all the girls directly. The chicks lie, bro. Oh, believe me, this lawsuit stinks of just total bullshit worse than anything I've ever seen because like part of it is claiming that he drugged her right so you you hear that you think like oh shit did he did he slip some some some meth in her drink some ecstasy some whatever no he injected a peptide into her cheek with her permission that is supposed to be a fat dissolver so it's supposed to make you like a little bit more attractive if you inject this thing into your face i guess yeah yeah and i mean like but the headlines are that he drugged her that's not It's not a drug.
49:33I mean, I guess it's a drug, but normally when we think about somebody getting drugged, we're picturing them taking a medication that would impact their mind, right? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I do know this. My credit for Clav comes from you. You was a brother, you was out here, and you were streaming with Clav, and you're like, yo, what? Blueface needs to make his way up there. and you set that up actually for us to even go up there. Appreciate you for that. That thing led to me meeting him and fighting out about the club thing and me putting that together for him. Actually, the guy you met, wait, the guy who housed you was at for the baby shower?
50:19That's the guy who owned the club. I think you told me that last week or something. Either way, that was a crazy moment for me because we're in the club and I'm basically like, I'm connecting Blueface and Claven you. And I'm like seeing you on your phone talking to him. And I'm starting to realize that the next day is not going to work. That if we're going to do content with Claven Blueface together, that it's going to happen tonight. And it's already like two in the morning. And I'm in the club just thinking about like, holy, I am so going home and going to bed in like the next 20 minutes. And then this conversation starts taking place.
50:59And I'm realizing like, okay, if we go do a stream together, I'm probably going to be awake until eight in the morning. And man, being in my forties, wow, that sounds bad. But I was going to do it because at that time, especially cloud was blown up. So crazy that like him and blue face together was just going to be nuts. But then it ended up being that you guys were like, Oh, we're going to do it the next day or some shit. Ryan Garcia, everybody came through his whole streaming world. But, Adam, I think we need to attack it a little more on the no-jumper platform. Yeah. You on a complex, Con? You want to go?
51:36When is it? Next weekend. Yeah, I'm back. Yeah, we'll put it together. We need to attack this. Just overall, now I'm kind of like talking to the people and I'm really seeing what it is. And this shit's all about positioning and wearing position to be in position. So we definitely got to figure it out because it's a lot of money being made, bro. like ridiculous shit Blue Bay's been kind of teasing people like he did 136 ,000 last week alone that's crazy that made me want to get on kick but yo did you see this flyer on my Instagram I'm doing a complex conversation on Saturday October 3rd about the album of the year with me academics and French Montana we all doing that at ComplexCon and who's supposed to have the album of the year uh it's like a it's a a forum about that like a conversation about that so that's gonna be pretty interesting i mean obviously me and act are gonna say ice man's the album of the year i would say i don't know exactly where french gonna go with that but my my my other clear number two is push icedy for the record i've actually probably listened to yeah yeah i'll probably listen to that more than ice man to be totally real we're talking about within the last 12 months are we talking about a 2026 see i was thinking 2026 i was looking it up because it's like i had to send them a list of my top 10 albums and i'm like oh god like do i really want to admit that they're probably have you taken listen i'm on some real shit no have i listened to 10 rap albums in 2026 have you listened to dr games out uh i i should i got to no i'm saying listen to it because i I care about your opinion.
53:23And one thing about it, you're going to keep it real. Take a listen to Game's album, bro. He delivered a fucking hour. I can't front. I kind of missed that initial window. But, yeah, I got to get on that. My bad. You're going to take a listen. You're going to have to now because you guys are about to get up here and politic. Right. So now I feel like I need to have a more complete understanding of all of the albums that came out. So where are you at on the AZ Chike album? You listen to that? I tried to listen to it without being biased he sounds too much like a YG am I tripping? he kind of and when I hear that kind of shit it takes away from I kind of can't get into it because I'm like your sound and then he's from the west coast like he sounds like YG to me I don't know that you know what I mean?
54:17now I talk to Stat Quote Stat Quote says the album's hot he loves it right but i can hear kindred's pin in there i mean kindred pin three or four of those right i mean i personally on my first listen i it was one of those albums where i kept having to try to pull myself back into paying attention to it because i kept getting distracted by other things because it just felt so uninteresting to me like it just really wasn't like anything that was grabbing me or making me want to pay attention to it now i realize that upon repeat listens like songs i like more will probably jump out at me i do feel like now it's kind of on me okay i gotta i gotta like really have more rap albums that i can discuss for this panel or whatever normally normally people just don't give a about hearing me discuss like some random rap album that realistically nobody else cares about but I guess that's what it is to be a hip-hop fan you gotta like try to have more encyclopedic knowledge or something like that but for me personally I don't know I just don't really feel like he has the it factor to be a big rapper nah I'm telling you like bro YG is YG you know I love to hear YG I fuck with YG's music shit like that you know what I mean end of the day if we got some other differences that's cool but I'm not gonna be wanting to hate on his music if I like his music he just kinda like you're from the west coast you know you gotta have your own your own flavor your own sound your own something unique about Roddy Ricch you know what I mean he had his own unique thing Blueface had his own unique thing like the ones that had that boost they had their own unique thing he just sounds like YG to me I couldn't get into it yeah do you think that Kendrick screwed him over by not coming through with the verse especially after it was like it was all in the media the conversation about if he was going to get a verse or not.
56:15Then all of a sudden the album comes out, there's no verse. And I actually saw like a clip of AZ Chike where he was talking about if the album would have a verse from Kendrick. And he said that he was just crossing his fingers. So I guess like when Kendrick is your OG, you got to just kind of sit back and just hope that things work out. Well, I think me knowing Kendrick, how their team works, Kendrick's a real strategic dude. I think because it came out that Kendrick made or had a verse on there, which he did, I think Kendrick thought that the Kendrick song would dominate the overall album and people wouldn't pay attention to the album.
56:57So I think Kendrick didn't pull it back because he's upset at Disgruno. I think he pulled it back because he thought it was going to hinder the look of his overall project. and me knowing Kendrick, I can see AZ probably on his album, and I can possibly see the guy going out on the Kendrick tour. I think Kendrick's going to work with him. I think he likes him. He's not signed to Kendrick. He's got like two, three labels kind of tied into him. But I think that's what it was. So Kendrick's logic is that by giving you a verse, I would without question be doing something for you that was extremely beneficial and positive.
57:40It's probably the nicest thing that I could possibly do for you, but it just might be a little too nice. It might distract from the rest of your album. Oh, no. Oh, no. I feel bad. You're going to sell 50 ,000 more copies and everybody, every single song in your album is going to stream 10 times as much because people are going to be listening to. I mean, like, how does this not just add to the argument that Kendrick doesn't like to do things for people besides himself. I think he thought that people wouldn't stream other songs. I'm telling you. Now, the logic may be some bullshit, but I think he thought that everything would go towards just his song he featured on, and they wouldn't pay attention.
58:26I think he would have done 9 ,000, 10 ,000, something like that. I think it was 9K, which honestly, for where he's at in his career and his actual level of fame. I don't think that that's so bad. But it did take a long time for this whole rollout. This rollout's basically been coming together since GNX. I feel like this was a big plan. They probably had pretty high hopes. To me, I don't think there's any real reason to believe that AZ Chayk could be a big rapper. No, for the money they gave him, I hear you got like 1.8 for like three albums. What the f***? Like 600 albums. Their ass is in the red like a mud.
59:09Hey, they in the red. And the fact that we say these, Adam, 9 ,000, oh, it's pretty good. Like, God damn, bro. Can you remember, bro? You remember if a dude did 100, 150 ,000, we're like, oh, he flops. Okay. Now that s*** is like platinum. To be fair, number one, YouTube doesn't count anymore, which has a huge impact. Also, just any free tier of streaming, like if you're listening to songs on Spotify, a lot of people who listen to hip hop, a lot of people in the hood probably don't want to pay for Spotify. So they listen to the ad supported version where you get to listen to music and you just have to listen to tons of ads as well.
59:50those streams are like massively uh de-weighted basically at this point uh you can't bundle anymore nobody can really buy album sales anymore i don't think which used to be a huge technique we all saw the uh the phone call where thug was talking about buying 50 000 copies for gun his album so he could have a number one so when you combine all those things the fact that youtube's not counting anymore the fact that a lot of the free platforms barely count the fact that there's no more bundling and you just don't have labels really investing into rappers anymore with somebody like az check being like an example of kind of going against that rule you know like the the way that they've been incubating his career and even wanting him to put out three albums over the course of a multi-year period that's the kind of rollout that the average artist these days in hip hop just doesn't get but i think that they looked at him and said oh okay this guy has so much talent he's so potentially valuable that we're going to really give him the nice long runway to become a big artist and i just think if anything he's just an indication of why that business model doesn't work anymore like you can't just keep throwing gas on something that just isn't isn't on fire you know like you you could buy people features you could put them on tours you could do all this shit and if they don't have that it factor it's just not going to work and to me that album i saw nothing on it that made me think that this guy is a bright future and I hate to say that because he's a cool guy as far as I know but I just like the expectations are out of this world and I just don't think he's delivering listen I think he came in I think he's gonna go out I don't see no real future in him I wish him the best I ain't got nothing against him I didn't like that he did recorded eight songs over there with game and knew the song was going on the album and I guess for Kendrick reasons was I don't think Kendrick would have cared less.
1:01:43Pulled it off at a time where the album just went up. That was kind of crazy. So he pulled a song off Game's album out of respect. But out of respect for Kendrick. And then meanwhile, Kendrick pulled his verse off his album. I mean, God damn. With friends like Kendrick, who needs enemies? Hey, man. Ever since you've been over here doing this Drake thing, You better look anti-Kendrick these days, bro. I mean, I just got called like I see it. I see him. Hey, and I can't help the fact that this AZ Check thing, the whole idea of him pulling his verse last minute off the album or just not being willing to give him a verse in general, I think it comes off scummy.
1:02:29I don't think I need to have any kind of like Drake alliance to feel that way. And hey, I'll continue on that too. I don't think I need to like Drake at all to listen to Colin Kaepernick talk about what Jay-Z did to him and think Jay-Z's a fucking scumbag. I actually think you have Jay-Z, you have Jigga hypnosis if you're not willing to admit that. Because that shit that he did to Cap, and listen, I was never like the big, I was never super invested in the storyline. I don't really even, like, I don't know. I never give a fuck about Colin Kaepernick like that. But when I'm sitting there listening to him talk about what Jay-Z did to him, I'm like, that is a scummy motherfucker.
1:03:11He's moving the way they want him to move. You get it? The Jews? Whoever. Everybody that's not him, everybody that has put him in position, if they tell him to go a certain way, he's not questioning it. Do you think it's safe to say that Jay-Z is basically like, that he's sold out the culture? That's what Kaepernick is saying. and the more I think about it, the more I try to shoot Jay-Z Bale, I don't really know how you come to another conclusion. And the most diabolical, despicable thing that Jay did is the fact that after he signed the NFL deal and everything, that they asked about how Colin would feel about it.
1:03:56And he basically said, I'll talk to him and he understands. He's cool with it or whatever. Like completely misrepresented how Kaepernick felt about it because in his face, Kaepernick told him, I think you're selling out the culture. And then Jay goes and does an interview and says, hey, yeah, he cool with it. He's cool with it. Like, he understands. But then Kaepernick, to his credit, like, I guess maybe there's some value in being low-key, but he should have came out and aired that shit out because nobody really cares that much anymore because it's so over and done. Listen, bro, I wouldn't say Jay-Z sold out the culture because he's positioning himself to be able to do what he wants to do when it comes to the culture.
1:04:40Let's just be real. What's he want to do? He wants to open a casino in Times Square. No Jay-Z there. No Kendrick would have been on that spot. He wants to open a casino in Times Square. He wants to try to ruin academics' life. He wants to – I don't think he's that invested in that. Bro, Roc Nation has taken aim at academics in a way that I don't think we've ever seen a label or management company do to a person in the media. But they helped act. They hired private investigators to track down Grand Chat Wizard at his home in Australia and then expose his identity all over the internet. This is not like, you know, that really happened.
1:05:19That's not just like made-up shit. Yeah, shout out to Grand. What I'm saying about Jay-Z, I think in his head, I'm doing what I got to do to position myself to help those that he wants to help. But who's getting helped? I mean, I don't know. I've just seen his buddy. His buddy just got a pardon, right? I think Jay got something to do with that. I don't know. I mean, you know, everybody, the people that come out and say they working with him, somebody's benefiting somewhere. I mean, you know, maybe they keeping a circle tight. But at the end of the day, when you guys say the culture, and I keep telling people this, I have yet to see in America when it comes to the entertainment business.
1:06:02No movement that A to Z was just black. It was always some Caucasians, some Jewish people, some black people, some all kind of other people involved in the operation of this thing to make this thing that we're going to call the culture. I'm just being real. So he's playing his position on the doors is open. Is he wrong for stepping through those doors? I believe they told him, get rid of Dame Dash. We're going to take you to the moon. And he looked at Dame Dash and said, well, how far can I go with you? I see you a little hotheaded. I got to think about myself, my family, what I want to do. And I think he made a decision.
1:06:39But you have to be selfish in this game at some time. People always say it's not right to be selfish. It's not right to think you're better than others. Bullshit. At some point in time, you're going to have to make a selfish decision for you and yours, for you to continue what you got going on. Generally, I agree with that. However, when you're marketing yourself as being a sort of like black messiah who's going to basically teach everybody about real estate and art. Basically, he kind of has presented himself as being able to help save the culture, not just make a bunch of money off of the culture.
1:07:18And it's like, listen, the Kaepernick thing is just like, this is a dude who really was a martyr and you might disagree with what he was standing for but at the end of the day he went out there and did a demonstration of his beliefs and as a result probably I think the estimate is like 150 million dollars that he cost himself by not being in the NFL for all those years and at some point the NFL did have to like cough up a bunch of money due to a lawsuit that I believe got settled. But when Jay-Z is the one to kind of just be the scab and like, you know, get in the way of that and basically allow the NFL to have access to black culture in a way that they never really did before.
1:08:01And as a result, Kaepernick's whole narrative gets marginalized. I mean, that is some diabolical shit. I can't really think of like too many things that I could even compare to that because that shit's so nasty. Diabolical is that a dumb decision on his behalf. What he better know is for every one person that thinks they can stop something, there's another 10 that can continue it. So he made a decision that was unselfish to the culture, but had a direct effect on him as an individual. So is Jay-Z supposed to say, hey, because I know what you're doing, I'm going to pass on this and I'm going to let Jermaine Dupree do it.
1:08:40Or I'm going to let this guy do it. or 50, somebody was going to sit in that seat. You know this shit. But that's the thing. If Black 100 leaves this seat, somebody going to tip the shit in it. Okay, but how many black Americans actually had the cultural relevance to sit in that seat and kind of override Kaepernick's narrative? Because, I mean, it's a short list. it's Jay-Z maybe Kanye at the time but he would have been a weird one because he was more of like an eclectic artist and not like a business guy 50 cent I think Jay-Z is far superior to 50 cent as far as like their image goes you know he's a lot more clean cut more business less messy Diddy at the time maybe could have done something but again he's not Jay-Z Pharrell is not Jay-Z Jay-Z to that job at that time it's kind of like the Kanye and Adidas thing like Like, yeah, it seemed kind of wild that Adidas was down to work with Kanye and, like, kind of risky.
1:09:45Like, it's kind of insane that they were willing to trust this guy. But when you really look at who all the other options are, they're pretty fucking weak in comparison to Kanye. Kanye was the only – Yeah, but Kevin Lyles, who's that? He's a mystery to 99 % of Americans, whereas Jay-Z – You know, I'm going to tell you the one dude won't nobody say no to.
1:10:07Birdman Brothers. nobody tells slim no we're talking about we're talking about like a celebrity role with the nfl it's like you have to be massively famous whoever he gets on the phone with i'm telling you i know you don't probably trip me because he don't say too much no slim is great i i get the slim thing i just don't think i just think we compare comparing the cultural resonance of jay-z and then Slim, it's just these are different worlds. Yeah, I get it. I get it. But I'm saying it. What I'm saying is I don't think Kaepernick and Jay-Z were that close to where he was going to consider what your movement is.
1:10:48I think Jay-Z was concerned that this piece is going to enhance these other things I'm doing and trigger these other things I want to do. Right. And I'm not mad at him about that. But, like, okay, it's an outside issue. but when Kaepernick brought this up again I'm really kind of swayed he says Jay Z wore my jersey on Saturday Night Live I tried to get a meeting with him I couldn't get a call back Jay wasn't down to meet up with him and talk for 15 minutes I'm like what like call Kaepernick Kaepernick was one of the most disgust human beings on the face of the earth during that time period the idea of not being willing to sit down with him is pretty out there, bro.
1:11:34Like, what the fuck is wrong with this guy? That is a little different. This is like my favorite rapper of all time, but like the more I think about it, I'm just more like, man, he is evil. Because you wear his jersey, but you won't give him a 15-minute beat. That's kind of wearing his jersey. First, I was going to say, well, maybe he didn't want people to know he was supportive of that, but wearing his jersey is very supportive. I don't know, man. But then as soon as the NFL situation comes through, then all right now all of a sudden he's trying to meet up with him um you know who else has had a similar uh career uh shift is so doughboy we all thought doughboy was kind of like a good guy who just happened to be kind of a you know a dicker like he's kind of gullible he's just like falling for shit all the time whatever so that that's how we kind of thought doughboy was now doughboy is claiming to be a blood.
1:12:26No, he's not. Shut the fuck up, bro. Bro. No, stop. Nah. I've heard him say on blood gang. No, we just got on bro. We just got on this dumb ass dude for fucking trying to make Moose Man a gang member. It's weirdo, whatever the fuck his name is, right? No, you're not doing that, bro. Bro, I've heard him out his mouth say on blood gang. No, no, no, no. You're not, bro. It's that weirdo, whatever his name is, is a sporty face is wrong for making moose man, a North Daniel. You're wrong for making dope boy blood. It came out of his mouth. He said, he was pointing out that the church that he went to was in a famous blood neighborhood in Sacramento, where Mozzie's from Oak park.
1:13:13He, uh, so he's got some, some connections to the bloods, but then more importantly, basically like he's, he's calling Munchie be a snitch. you'll love this he's calling munchie b a snitch because when we're all i thought they was doing great content together okay so this comes on the heels of doughboy was saying that he wants to actually form like a group with munchie b kind of like the crash out boys like a b and dean he wants it to be doughboy and munchie and so his idea gotta be munchie and don't boy either way he but He wanted it to be them hanging out, drinking heavily, and doing content together.
1:13:53His original idea, he told Munchie he wanted to do five days a week of them streaming together. Munchie's like, oh, no, man, maybe I got two. But either way, so when we're on the podcast, Munchie's basically talking about this girl that came over when he was at Doughboy's house one time. and basically like Munchie without trying acknowledged that Doughboy was cheating on his girlfriend by like accidentally saying that this girl was there on a certain day. And so now Doughboy is on a whole campaign calling Munchie a snitch and saying that he ratted on him. But did he know Doughboy had a woman? I think he was unsure.
1:14:36I don't think Munchie really like realized it. And I think Munchie also, okay, Munchie, is looking at the situation and he's assuming that like Doughboy's been with this girl for two weeks he can't really get in trouble for f***ing another girl right? Well it turns out if you're Doughboy you can so yeah. So Munchie really didn't know this the chick Doughboy was with two weeks? He's been with her for a couple weeks I guess and I guess but the main thing is that So is he calling Munchie a snitch like on some trolling shit or like with malice? He's mad at Munchie for getting him caught up with his girl.
1:15:11And then to make it even worse is like, he expects all of us to keep his secrets of cheating and stuff. And it's like, bro, we don't look at you like some gangster. Like we look at you as someone where like, we kind of like, we feel for the women. Like we want the women to be safe and comfortable and confident. And when we see you doing bad by these women, we kind of want to jump out there and let them know. I don't feel bad about people saying that on the podcast. There was one chick that she used to come around, you know, the Wild and Out team, and she was like, he's a nice guy, and it was kind of cool, but the random headbutt is something she can't continue to deal with.
1:15:56What's a random headbutt? Well, we all make love to chicks, right? I didn't ask her if it was from the front or from the back. but she admitted that that you know been active but and see I'm going on what y 'all told me that dude kind of like bipolar something one of them right so I don't know bro what triggers it but she was like dude just comes and gives a random headbutt while they bang it like like so I you know I mean listen I don't I don't know what this guy's doing. I don't know what he's up to. Do I believe it? Yes. Just because it sounds like something he would do. But I don't know. Yeah, man.
1:16:44The Doughblood thing's crazy. He told you on blood. On blood gang. And you know what else he says? He goes, you know how I bleed? No. I swear to God. The reason why I want to believe you, because you understand all this gang language, right? so when you hear shit you know I mean okay it's one thing when Dean is saying cu cause it's like you're from Florida I guess they say cu there cu is like cousin it's just whatever yeah but the other main it is a little weird because Dean does hang out with a bunch of crips but the thing with Doughboy is that he's saying this blood stuff but then he's also like shouting out that he's from a blood area even though he didn't get put on or whatever he's like mentioning that his hood or his church is in a famous blood hood he's like hanging out with munchie and like just saying on bloods and shit like i don't know i honestly i think he said that odd with munchie no way he says it in front of munchie i think he said in front of munchie but i i think he might be ready for the ifg put on no you don't think so we're not doing that to the anchorwood family a lot of good dudes over there bro yeah but they could use a send-off hey man don't boy please bro don't do this to yourself do not come whatever happened to the fight that him and sporty face was supposed to have what happened oh you don't know about this so like uh the promoter of the fight made like a fake flyer that said that he the promoter was boxing me for lena so the winner was gonna get lena right which is you know you see stupid ass fake ai flyers all the time so it is what it is it's whatever this is a couple months ago but i messaged the guy and i'm like bro we're doing a boxing match with you take that down like this is stupid and he immediately starts talking shit back to me like not just immediate like i was cool about it i was like bro that's just not funny take it down he's like starts arguing with me and that really pissed me off so i'm like all right you know what okay boom oh no jumpers not involved please take down every single thing involving our name huh what kind of promoter is this that would even do some elementary shit like that i don't know and if you knew about the finances of it you would know what a gift it was to them that we were even doing this because we were basically like not really getting money out of it besides just streaming it and letting them put the logo on the flyer which i was just like whatever i'm gonna go there because this is gonna me a fun time covering these guys fighting and everything and the last time when i when i did the the king pill fight i think i might have had like 10 000 live viewers or something like that at one point so i felt like okay the people like the boxing thing so it might be worth doing this guy starts talking shit to me i'm pissed and so then basically i remove it but doughboy as soon as i say hey i'm not having anything to do with the fight doughboy boom he cancels the fight too but he says he's doing it in solidarity with me but I didn't ask him to do that and he did it like instantaneously and so obviously when Spodyface sees that he's like oh right you don't want to fight me you were looking for the first excuse to not fight me because let's be real this could be a murder if there wasn't a referee there like Spodyface I've seen video of him fighting somebody the other day like this is the most unfair fight of all time like Spodyface has got some nice hands, you know?
1:20:17Doughboy, in comparison to Spoddyface, is like me boxing my daughter. I don't think it's not fair. Well, I mean, listen, it was a great cover-up, but that was the case because it's like, alright, Adam not doing it, I'm not doing it. But I can see Spoddyface's side of it too as well. Spoddyface's been going a little crazy lately. He on some gangbang shit. Him and his man, Rose, Moneybag Rose, who got Him going at DC Baby Draco are now arch rival enemies. This shit is crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Spodey face has like a real knack for falling out with people, I'm starting to realize. Yeah. I've seen Four Xers over there on Snoop Doggy Dog.
1:21:04Yeah. Checked him out. He was over there in his trailer. I talked to Snoop last night. he's doing his biopic which he says coming out 2027. You should get Snoop to do a song with 4Xers.
1:21:22I think Snoop would give 4Xers a verse just on some crip shit. You know, if you catch Snoop in the studio, he ain't doing nothing. Cool, but I'm kind of working on getting us set up to go down to the compound and interview him. So that's what I talked about. Oh, let's do that. I got to get deep into the Snoop research before. Hey, guess what? Guess what? I'm doing my CCW class this weekend. Where are you going? You going local? Yeah. Okay. All right. Well, if you get to that class and it's too much of a headache, let me know. I'll send you to my guys. They're in Fountain Valley, but you're going to be good.
1:22:02They're cool. They kind of like you. You'll feel like you're in a podcast. they all when i sit on b they're off duties ex-cops and shit so you get into one that's like real fucked up and just slow let me know i see you down there check them out yeah because that's my uh my email to myself that i just did was like do research tonight so you feel less stupid when you go in there because for sure they're going to be talking about all kinds of stuff that i like can't remember are you sheriff or lapd i don't know that i ain't sheriff though no oh yeah lapd you can't get a little more reach hers is sheriff i don't fuck with sheriffs no yo you can't say that you fuck with everybody right now bro get your ccw oh right okay i feel yeah yeah and make sure they're gonna cross you with utah and arizona as well oh yeah i mean that was a crazy realization was uh when i was gonna go to houston a few months ago and i looked it up and I realized I can put my gun in my bag and just fly to Houston and then just walk around with it.
1:23:07No big deal. No. You check your gun. I'm going to go buy you your cases. Get from B to U. I'm going to go buy you your two cases. See, I feel like that's the main thing that I'm not complying with is you need to have the cases so they can be locked separately, right? That's how you have to transport them. R &B, tribals, two guns, four clips, 100 rounds everywhere she goes. Bro, you and R &B need to have a shootout like Dirk in India. Look, R &B going. That motherfucker is going. She didn't have to. It's a few near situations. She's a different woman when it comes to that. But I'm going to go buy your gun cases for you, and that way you don't get in no goddamn trouble with the airport, man.
1:23:52I'm not really planning on doing that anyway at this point. But, yeah, I mean, I got to get to it. No, Adam, when you fly to Florida and you go in these places, you get off the plane you load your shit you write you can conceal whatever you want you're good so it's a great feeling no that's sick yeah um okay i'm actually going to right now i'm going to a performance of dolly parton's nine to five at my kid's school what the fuck is because when you say dolly parton kid's school the shit gets different Dolly Parton was a huge advocate for children Just because she had big boobs doesn't mean she's like Inherently sexual you fucking psychopath I mean when we think Dolly bro We think Dolly Yeah and kids love milk That's just another reason why kids would love her They remember like oh yeah I used to drink that shit That was one of the president's problems Who was Dolly No she had a husband like her whole life I think she was only ever with one guy I kind of think she was tied to somebody.
1:24:58I'm going to do my research. How many men slept with Dolly Parton? This is an insane question to ask the chat.
1:25:10Okay, so... Okay. I think... Carl Dean. She was married to him for six decades. But... So she... She basically... Yeah, she never cheated. She said she never cheated, but she did say that she had little affairs. But I don't think it was, I think it was just emotional and it wasn't physical, maybe? That sounds like bullshit. What the fuck is that, bro? That's some white people shit. It was an emotional affair. Yeah, it's a conversation. Yeah, I had a conversation. Like, what conversation am I having with a girl that counts as cheating? As cheating. Yeah, she said I've had. She said, I've been tempted many times and I admit that I've given in more than once, but not as many times as people believe.
1:26:03This is from an interview that she did in 1984 where maybe she would not have thought cheating was that big of a deal back then, but wow. Yeah, she had affairs, she said. I don't know. Bro, shout out to Dolly. Shout out to what she's doing for the kids. Um... you and lena any good progress or it's still same we're going out to eat tonight so i'm still i'm working on it you know good deal you're not sleeping on the couch right no i actually i did sleep in the guest room for three nights though because i had a cold got you okay but now i'm back in the bed there we go you feel me uh okay shout out to whack 100 This has been another great episode.
1:26:55We'll be live and direct in the studio next week. I'm back. We're back. Let's figure out this week. We're going to do live on Sunday. I'm back on the first day smoking. What time have you been going to bed? Seven. I've been averaging between six and seven a.m. That's tough. Yeah, bro. You come out, the sun's up. It's crazy. I find that depressing. But then also, like, in Miami, the three-hour time difference, If you go to bed at 6, it just kind of feels like 3 a.m. And 3 a.m. is not that late. So I don't really feel that bad. Then you wake up and it's like kind of super late. It's crazy. But I think people die a lot faster than they do on the West Coast, bro.
1:27:36I don't know. Shit. I can't wait to get back home. I'll tell you that. That's a fact. All right. Shout out to WAC100. Appreciate you, Maine. Everybody smash the like. Shout out to the WACPAC members. They're the best. There we go. Let's get it. Love, man. See you next week, brother. 12 noon. We out. Much love.
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