Bruh Bruh on Durk & the OTF Indictment, THF Bayzoo's Death, THF Bruh Bruh Confusion & More

23:59Digging an even larger hole next to that original hole. Unfortunately, TaxAct's filing software can't make taxes fun. But TaxAct can help you get them done. TaxAct. Let's get them over with. How you able to... So the kite, the homies in there got you on the phone with him type shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was about to say, how the hell you be getting dirt on the phone so quick? Looking out for niggas, bro. When you really in the streets, like, you really know. We already doing this shit. It's already in effect. Like, I probably got 100 niggas in jail. 100 niggas in the state. 100 niggas in the feds.

24:34You feel me? 100 niggas dead. 100 niggas paralyzed. So, I know niggas everywhere. And we from Cali, so, you know, our jails is crazy, bro. So, yeah. So, I just already knew people that was in there. I been already talking to them Way before Smirk even went there So I was just looking out for my You know He's been good in there Like Yeah he was cool he cool Cause they were saying that He was in like a solitary confinement For like 90 days He out now Crazy Yep he out now Why was he even like Held down in there for so long You know I don't know I think they say he got caught with a The Apple Watch Yeah watch or something Word Yeah But that shit ain't cool though bro I just be like damn A motherfucker go from having everything to you know losing it all especially from working for it and then it just all took away from you that shit crazy man being on the top of the game yeah hell yeah so that's why i'm gonna be trying to keep lit and do my part like knowing the conversations i have with bro like you feel me like bro keep going like you got you can do this shit because there be times where he used to invite me to all type of meetings all type of tours and shows i used to miss him like bro i gotta do this i gotta do that he used to be on my ass like bro you tripping bro you gotta get out these streets, bro.

25:42You gotta come. What you going through? You feel me? You see what I'm going through? I done got over all this street shit. Von, his brother, just working. And just constantly working through all that shit. Even when he going through something, he's still working. So it's like, looking at that, I'm like, damn, he big as hell and he is still working. So it'd be like, it make me want to be motivated. Like, I gotta keep going through. There's kind of like a narrative where people keep saying that everybody turned their back on Dirk and that his first court date had mad people there and now his court dates don't have as many people there and that there's people with rappers that he don't get along with, etc.

26:18From your perspective, you think there's truth to that? Yeah, hell yeah. But it's the same thing. I peeped it like when bro, the other nigga went to jail, hell of his fans came to bro. And now when bro down, now hell of his fans going over there. It's like whoever out, whoever on top, that's where they gonna go type shit. So it's like I really don't get too much Like Into the fans and shit But I just be like Bro make sure I do my part And make sure you know I tap in Make sure I do what I can do What about All the rap niggas That you see that Y 'all was all Cool hanging out with And you see how they moving Yeah they be switching Like niggas be But it was I guess it was always Business to them But Who's saying bro Come on tomorrow They won't switch back That's like what bitches do You think Dirk Will be f***ing with these niggas Or you think he got A different mentality He's seen everybody Switch up on them He probably won't, bro.

27:08I wouldn't. Would you? I wouldn't. You see how the shit played out. Yeah. How many people really scream in free dirt? Exactly. That's why you saw me at the fucking show. Yeah, you had the show. I got the free smirk hoodie on. Niggas be scared to wear that motherfucker. I'm wearing that motherfucker. I really come from shit, so it ain't... I walk in my truth. You feel me? That's whatever. I wear that shit on my sleeve, whatever. That's bro. But it's kind of interesting to me because there's some people who I feel like took a side as if they were on some street shit when choosing between Dirk and Youngboy but then in reality it was some industry shit and they might have been acting like it was on some brotherhood shit or some street shit or whatever but reality is is like you're entertainers you're going with whoever's gonna help you make money and get bigger and it's almost like now I mean we haven't like heard somebody like uh you know little baby talk about that or anything like that but it kind of feels like that might be what they're thinking is like well shit I ain't really like I might I've been making music with you, but I wasn't like your day one bro like that.

28:09I don't know. Yeah, no, that's right. That's true. Like, I can see like from a business perspective, like Rod Wave, you feel me? Like he doing, like he finna do a tape with a bro, I think, but he was fucking with a bro too. So it's like, that's more a business. But for a nigga like me or a street nigga that's really like in the streets for real, when we ain't in the booth and we doing whatever the we doing, it's like, bro, all right, we this, we that. Like I ain't, when it come time for it, like this where I'm at, you feel me? Like, I ain't even worry about, bro. And I'm just, it just is what it is, bro.

28:40So you doing something with young boys off the table. That's like an option. Yeah, hell no. No. Yeah. Yeah, I ain't doing no something, bro. Drake said no to it, too. Yeah. Because sometimes shit be loyal. Like, that shit be deep. Like, it be real for some people. You got to think. Kill for people that's dead, bro. So if you loyal to a bull through they death, you for sure can be loyal to a motherfucker. That's a lie. And somebody like Drake might not be like a super street dude, but he clearly has respect for it. not for sure he stands on yeah that's why i with drake too like i with drake he stand on you know he stand on for real and he probably ain't even street as most of these these these really be street but they just be they just want they like they want to go whoever the wherever the is going the will go wherever the money at we expect that yeah so we expect that from but from girls but i don't know be scared yeah yeah it get tricky though because like even Herb got caught up singing a song and niggas was mad at him but it's like how much loyalty can he really like niggas can't even listen to her and I mean young boy shit like is that disrespectful or you feel like niggas shouldn't be playing on that shit.

29:45It depends on they own over their relationship you feel me so if they relationship was like that then I don't think he'd be on no shit like that but obviously it's not like how you know how it should be or how bro probably think it is or whoever the fans think it is for a man to care like that you know. Somebody who was outspoken was OTL Twin. He wasn't really, all right, so, you know, Young Thug had a phone call that leaked and then in the phone calls, he kind of was saying some shit about how like Dirk was acting funny while he was locked up, wasn't clearing shit for him and shit. But he was saying when Dirk was not hot before the Drake feature, he said him and Future was the ones holding Dirk down, Dirk coming to Atlanta trying to know, like use their clout and shit to get where he at.

30:27But then like when he in jail, he hitting Dirk line, Dirk not clearing shit, reaching back to him. then i think otf twin went and said that uh i guess when it leaked he felt the way and he was like man never i'll never listen to a who were addressing and was kind of like taking shots at thug what was your thoughts on that whole situation was thug bogus for the phone call you think him and derrick would be able to like they still cool no for a for a to say some like that bro he already feels type of way because what if the phone call never came up then he already would have been feeling like that and then would have broke him on then they just with it and the whole time this feels like it went inside his head and then he probably fake it The whole time, like, he'd be faking like he cool, bro, the whole time he'd feel some type of way.

31:06But if it wasn't for them phone calls, the motherfucker would've never knew. But on the flip side of that, Thug feeling some type of way, because he's like, shit, I was f***ing with you before you had this. Smirk was, he was on his Free Thug shit. He was saying Free Thug. He was on his shit. I don't know, bro. I don't know. It's tricky, because it's like, I feel like everybody has conversations between their friends or their girl or whatever. But it's not like you can have a conversation about somebody and say things that you wouldn't say to that person's face without you being a f***ed up person.

31:43And then when your private conversation gets leaked, it's like that's such a weird thing to deal with. Yeah, but no, that was like some real pillow talking type shit though. Hell of that shit. I don't talk like that. You can pull all my conversations up, it ain't going to be like that. It ain't going to be like that, bro. But obviously, man, if a nigga bring a nigga up, we don't fuck with, man. We don't fuck that nigga. We don't fuck that nigga. And that's that. There's part of me, though, that feels sympathy for Thoreau just because he was sitting there rotten in jail for all those years. And like, you know, that shit got to fuck with your head.

32:10Like, you know, for sure, if somebody ain't showing you love, you're going to start feeling a way about it. Like, I give him a lot of grace in terms of like, man, you are going through it, you know? I don't know. Yeah. How many people you know, Jill? A lot. Yeah. But like how long they been there? Like what's the person you know Like that's been there for a minute I mean Brick been locked up for a year I was just did an interview with YM Bate He's been locked up for a couple years At this point five six fucking years I don't know it is weird Like when somebody's locked up for a long time I know motherfuckers who've been locked up bro For like 20 years Yeah You feel me And I have conversations with them on the daily And I know people that's been locked up for five years And once so when they come to a nigga doing three years How long is like Yeah That's not even enough time for you to be Feeling like that Or sometimes you're like Like, bro, worry about coming home.

32:56Worry about your case. Worry about all that type of shit. It ain't really to really be pillow talking on hella niggas. Like, bro, we don't. Like I say, you can put our conversation up, bro. We ain't on no shit like that, bro. We don't even. I can vouch. Like, I know I ain't on no shit like that. But that's some different shit, bro. Like, we be having deep conversations, bro. We be talking about the kids, bro. We talk about getting home. Nigga, what you want to do when you get home? It's hella shit you can talk about, bro. But, you know, we ain't doing no pillow talking. That's just us, though.

33:23Yeah. I feel it. It was a lot of pillow talking on those phones. I'm not going to lie. It's been a lot going on with the whole OTF shit because like, alright, one of the main things in your name might get mixed up with is because you 900, bro, bro. But then they got a nigga named THF, bro, bro. So how many times niggas be confusing you with THF, bro, bro? Every day. When I first came out, bro, when I dropped the quarantine and he was and shit, bro, I had hella rat emotes on my page. I'm already knowin', I'm like, bro, they gotta be, cause even me, I'm like, wait, wait, this is not, I'm even gettin' it confused a little bit.

34:00I'm like, what the , even like, that's how I know, that's when I knew this music shit crazy. You can't believe everything you see on vlogs and shit. Also, Bru Bru is such a unique name that it is kinda confusing that there would be two rappers named that. Yeah, cause damn there are only two in the world type shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, nah, bro, that shit was irritating as fuck, cause I feel like I do too much to have that shit on my head, I do too much, No, like, no, bro, it's a different. But you know, the fans definitely was on like, all right, is this the same nigga? I be saying with dirt, this is bruh, bruh.

34:32But then it's like, nah, it's a whole nother bruh, bruh. Because the bro supposed to be in jail, so they like, bro, when the you get out of jail? How the fuck? I'm like, bro, I was never in jail. This ain't that, bruh, bruh. This ain't that, bruh. I really just ignored it, like, because it was so irritating. I'm like, bro, I don't even want to speak on this shit. But how did you become bruh, bruh in the first place? That's the slang in my hood. Okay, it's just... Everything was just bruh bruh. A lot of people, I feel like people used to say it more than they say it now. Yeah, it was. That's why I kept the name.

34:59I could have been changing my name. Like my original name is Meese, like Meese. You feel me? If you go to my hood, they'll be like, Meese, Meese, Meese. But bruh bruh is like something that we used to say when I was younger. You feel me? We used to be like, man, what's up bruh bruh? Bruh bruh this, bruh bruh that. Everything just bruh bruh all day. So it's like damn, I'ma take that slang with me no matter how big I get so I can always remember. you know definitely for sure so how do you know Brick Baby I don't know Brick Baby oh you don't oh I thought you did for some reason no I was finna ask do you know Brick because you know Brick be known everybody from the OTF camp yeah they was fucking bro but I don't know I ain't never met him you don't know why your freaking went what about yeah what about Vaughn was you on Vaughn ever close or no I want to do something with Vaughn too that's a horror RP bro he got you know he got killed LinkedIn is pretty amazing at helping you grow your small business.

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37:07Oh, in Houston. In Houston. Like the same night we did the video with Durk and him. Yeah. We went to the crib. Nigga, he wanted to go buy some surf. put some nigga some little juice and shit, and he end up getting killed that same night. And I had posted on my Instagram, then Buka ended up hitting me. He like, damn, bro, sorry for your loss. I'm like, yeah, bro, this shit crazy, bro. Then Smirk reached out. He's like, sorry for your loss and shit too. And then, like, the next day, Von got killed. And I had to tell him, like, damn, sorry for your loss, bro. So it's like, that street shit is just crazy, bro.

37:37I ain't get to meet him, no, I never met him yet. I wanted to, he just died so fast. Damn. We for sure would have had something. Did you notice the change in Dirk after that? Like, just f***ed him up for a while? Nah. When I saw him, he was like, I say, like, bro, nigga always working. Like, he's like Superman. Like, he just worked through whatever he going through. He just working through shit. So I never really saw him like that. Yeah, I mean, somebody like him too. I never really saw him wearing no emotional shit on his sleeve. He just lost so many people over the years that at a certain point, people kind of learned to, like, work through it.

38:08Yeah. And I feel like we all lose a lot of people, bro. But the thing is, what I be trying to wrap around my head, when you're that big, and you still got to work, because bills still got to be paid. Ain't nothing changed but your bills. Your bills is bigger. But you still got to work. It's different, too, because if somebody that you're just friends with from your neighborhood or whatever gets killed, then you're going to have a small group of people that really know about or understand or whatever. Meanwhile, Vaughn getting killed, and all of a sudden, Dirk is just under fire. I'm sure he probably separated himself from the internet or whatever, but that's a lot to deal with too in terms of just the public perception.

38:43Yeah. Yeah, that shit crazy, man. What made you gravitate towards the Eagle? I can't stop looking at the other thing. We just flying high, man. Flying high. You got the matching ring too, huh? Yeah, got the ring to match. This is OTF right here. ESR. But we just flying high. We just flying. We ain't flying with the pigeons. We flying all the way at the top. We ain't really coming back down. We just flying high, bro. We want something, we coming down, getting that shit, going back up. so we ain't really trying to argue with motherfuckers and be in the like I was saying like I ain't really trying to compromise myself for a lot of shit you know or even to blow up so it's like we just flying high bro but you still stay in California or you move at some point?

39:25I don't stay in Cali I stay in Houston okay just like the lifestyle out there more? yeah it's slower to me to a Cali it's slower how do you feel about like I know you be seeing all the crazy headlines with Dirk and the OTF trial and all this shit. How you be feeling when you be seeing all the leak? They be saying, all right, this week they saying that they got messages from 2022 where Dirk put a million dollars on Kondo head in the trial. Then next week, not even next week, but probably a couple months ago, you had OTF Vonnie. His dad was going on there saying some crazy allegations. What do you be seeing or what do you be thinking when you be seeing all this shit?

40:05that shit be hurting because it's like bro motherfuckers making a circus out of bro life like he really going through shit he really from his kids like he ain't with his kids he can't touch his kids he can't hug his kids he ain't with his family his daddy just came home he ain't really with his daddy like that he ain't with his mama he ain't you know he ain't with his family so but motherfuckers out here making a circus of you know I don't really get into all that type of shit like I don't be I don't be with that shit like that shit weak to me you know what I mean but that's what's going on in the world.

40:35Like, everything is trolling. A motherfucking die and they trolling the motherfuckers. That's a lot of trouble. Because that's just what it is. I'll be seeing on fucking Instagram all day we scroll. It's a page. I can't even. It's a Cali page. But every time a motherfucker die, they be like, such and such got his noodles splattered on a plate today. West Coast gang wars. Yeah, it be like, be playing. Like, it just be, it's more respect, bro. And that's the kind of account that wouldn't exist if people couldn't just be anonymous. Yeah. Because the shit that he says, if people knew who he was, that would be all.

41:03a motherfucker come see about that because it's like real bad they be using like some slurs the gang disses type shit like if somebody you know whatever term they use to diss that person's hood they be using that like after they die i'll be scrolling through my feet like bro what the fuck a lot of this shit you gotta have tough skin for this shit bro some motherfuckers don't got tough skin that's why a lot of motherfuckers crash out in public because they can't take certain shit like you feel me even me like i don't think i can take certain shit. That's why I don't put myself in certain situations.

41:32Because if I do, I might just crash out on camera. I might smoke a nigga on camera. I might, whatever. So I don't put myself in certain situations, bro. It reminds me of when you go to an NBA game and you hear people yelling crazy shit at the players. And you know that these dudes have egos and they have self-respect and they don't want somebody to, like if they were at the club and somebody says something crazy to them, they might wild out. But during the game, you could be hearing somebody yell the craziest shit at them and they just can't say shit. They just gotta learn to not react, you know?

42:01Yep, some of them do react when they have like a bad game. Motherfucker have a bad game. What? Motherfucker taking their jersey, yo. Stepping on my head to get to your ass. Yeah. Yeah, but that shit crazy, though. It's a f***ed up time right now, bro. It's hella disrespectful. It's a f***ed up time right now, bro. It's crazy with Dirk, too, because if we were to look at all the headlines since he got locked up, probably like at least half of them are just blatantly false. Shit that got disproven right away. Yeah, that's up, bro. That's up. People are just so desperate for any news about them. They'll just come up with anything.

42:37And reality is it works, is that people come up with a fake headline and all of a sudden you see real outlets posting about it. Yeah, but that shit don't really matter in court. You know? Like, just for example, a motherfucker could be saying, man, Burba doing this, he did that, or Burba killed this person, he killed that person, he did this and did that and did this. but if they doing this and going to Crime Stoppers and going to the detectives and doing all this shit, the detectives might be like, let me go look into this shit. Motherfuckers might tap my phone. Put a fan on my phone, saying nothing, and they been like, damn, I've been listening to this nigga for a year straight.

43:10He ain't said nothing about nothing. It's always family. It's always this, it's always that, so they were like, I'm gonna kill that because that shit costs money. They're like, kill that, and that's that. So motherfuckers, we don't got nothing to worry about, but it just be fucked up how it is. Like, motherfuckers don't give a fuck. They just want to, because you're getting paid, you're getting paid off of it. Who's on the current roster of OTF right now? We got Chew. We got Doody Low. Who else? Current rappers. Buka. Buka. Yeah, my nigga Breezo. TTE Breezo. I'm going crazy with Breezo right now.

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44:15Buka. Buka just dropped. Word. Buka just dropped something. It's the same people, but I'm just dropping. Like, I'm making sure I put my work in through my part. How do you feel about like, you know, everybody been saying ever since Dirk got locked down, locked up, like OTF down bad, you know? Yeah. Dude got shot in Atlanta and shit. And they saying like, you know, I think Big Mike was he was the one saying like if Dirk wasn't out, then niggas wouldn't be playing with OTF. If Dirk wasn't locked up, niggas wouldn't be playing with OTF like this. You agree that it's been like a. I don't know what Big Mike is.

44:45Big Mike is a. He was a King Von co-defendant. Wookie's brother. Yeah. but yeah he basically did an interview and he was saying like ever since dirt got locked up he felt like a lot of people been playing with otf like we seen doodolo get shot then rp zoo you feel like uh i mean of course dirt been going to jail had an impact on otf but like why do you think it's been like so much shit just spiraling because you gotta think bro bro fed a lot of people like bro it's like if i make it and i got my nephew i got my brother and everybody depending on me. If I got these M's, come on y 'all, we over here.

45:23Something happened to me, he gotta go back to where, he gotta go back to the trenches. And it's dangerous out there. Cause like damn, motherfuckers couldn't get up with you. Now they can finally get up with you. Now they can finally touch you. And that's how that type of shit be happening like that. But you gotta think bro, the whole OTF family, they just, everybody's sad. It ain't more so music. Even with me, when I heard about the shit, I like where it got turned off from music a little bit cause it's sad, bro. It's like damn, what's finna happen with bro? You feel me? so motherfucker ain't gonna drop, motherfucker ain't even worried about going to the studio.

45:52It's just sad, bro. You be having the conversations like, yo, we got to keep this shit going though? Yeah, like at first I wasn't. And then, you know, nigga Co, shout out my nigga Co Killer. Co Killer called me and just motivated me like a like, bro, we got to keep going, bro. Like, bro, you got to keep going. Even when I had cut the chain, I cut the chain at the bottom because I want the chain. He like, bro, you got the chain. You might as well rap, bitch. Keep rapping, keep going. Like, you got to put this shit on, bro. We was on the phone for like an hour. And he just turned the nigga up. And I just started like working every since.

46:22Cause I do feel like all the opportunities Smirk was given the nigga when he was out. It's like, damn, I just let him die cause he gone. But he really was giving the motherfucker. So like, man, let me keep it lit. And maybe I can make something happen and be like, you know, some Drake and Lil Wayne type shit. You feel me? When Wayne went to jail, Drake came and held it down. He held it down. You feel me? So it's like, I feel like, bro, I want to do that. Cause I already know the talks that I have with bro. Even if it was our one-on-ones, nobody was around. It was just our shit. like bro you got it you just gotta you feel me i just be going through my own whether some street shit some family shit some some money problems whatever it is it always keep going you always gave me that so it's like bro i'ma keep it lit you feel me even though i don't gotta talk to i don't gotta talk to that every day yeah i'm gonna already know like i just already feel it you feel he want somebody to keep this lit bro i mean at the same time he trying to come home too though i mean so at the same time i'm saying like ain't gonna make no circus out of it at the same time because it ain't it ain't no funny you know it ain't nothing funny about it everybody's sad bro that was their brothers and and that's that's that was their brothers first you feel me so they know way longer than me so i can only imagine how they feel so it's like but sometimes that music don't be everything don't be in their right mind so it's just like you know it's a big ass little message did you know zoo or you know yeah yeah zoo my brother rp zoo hell yeah oh word so Yeah, yeah, yeah.

47:42I go to Iraq, Zoo get me straight every time. You feel me? We come to Oakland, he's straight, same shit. It's like, I'm in my mind. So how did you feel when you heard the news and the video leaked online of what happened to him? What was your thoughts and where was you at when you heard the news? Back to a motherfucker losing another brother. Like it's just a familiar feeling that I hate. No, it ain't. It's just like, damn, that shit you can't take back. You feel me? That's why you never post, if you got somebody you love, you never post to hold your tongue, bro. never bite your tongue tell your brother what it is so that way you probably can save his ass but you know shit just be deep bro but Zu Dime really shocked everybody cause he been he like a big face in Chicago so no one ever seen that for Zu you know what I'm saying cause Zu been moving around for all these years it's like you know the back story though cause everybody was trying to say he was trying to fix his car do you know if any of that was true I don't know man I just saw it saw it on tape I don't know who or I don't know I just saw it on tape bro but I know just from being in the streets for so long, I done saw everybody get it.

48:45Like I done saw the that don't deserve it, the that kind of deserve it, the that do deserve it, the biggest nigga, the hardest, toughest nigga with the most bodies, the with no bodies. I done saw everybody get the issue. That's why I respect everybody. I hope they get that same respect back. You feel me? Even if I'm in a grocery store, if a nigga ain't that a white nigga or a Mexican or whatever, I don't just you feel me I give everybody respect you feel me but if it's that if it go there then it's gonna go there it's a challenge it's a challenge some of like basically like people just looked at him as such a badass who had just survived all these years in Chicago and then when you look at how that situation actually went down like he let his guard down for whatever five minutes ten minutes in the parking lot and that was enough like that really lets you know like anybody could get got if they end up in the right situation you know yeah a band like that since forever for gangsters.

49:40I know motherfuckers who died with guns on them. Those motherfuckers who died in shootouts who saw this shit come and shot, nigga died from a leg shot. I hear people in interviews all the time who would be like, yo, they're never going to get me because I'm always on point. There's a lot of ways to not be on point. Them be the niggas who be losing. Like me, I feel like I don't rap about that shit because I don't want to wish that shit on me. You feel me? I don't want to put that energy on me, but I can do. I'll be on it though. You feel me? I tell myself every morning, that's a torture bro. I woke up every day like damn, I gotta make sure I be on point today.

50:14Cause it can happen. And it's on my mind every day. Bro, it ain't not one day go by that ain't thinkin' about death. So it just be like, it make me be on point. You feel me? That's why I got damn near, I was catchin' like four pistol cases bro. Like in a span of like two years, like back to back to back. I'm just catchin' them bitches cause I don't know how to be without that motherfucker. You feel safer like where you at now though? Like in Houston, you kinda let your guard down a little bit more versus you being in - Yeah, being at home, yeah. It ain't all here, no, it ain't just relax, but you can't, you don't gotta be like this.

50:47You feel me? You don't gotta be in Oakland, you gotta be like this. Like you damn, you gotta see the shoot up cover. Like I done saw, like this finna go down right here. Watch this y 'all, and then it go down. Cause I'm on it, and I already know it's finna happen. Like I can just, you just know it. You just feel like shit, you been doing it for so long, bro. You just become like a vet. and that's probably how Zoo felt, you know what I mean? But at the same time, I feel like that too, but it can still happen to me. You feel me? That's why it's best not to move so much. Or when you want to do certain shit, if it's certain shit that motherfucker's gonna do, you send a motherfucker to go do it.

51:18Little shit, like I ain't going to the store. I make my bitch, I even ask my bitch, I don't even pump the gas, bro. Yeah. Cause I ain't trying to be seen. She'll pump it. You know how some women be like, I was never ready to pump gas with a bitch. If you my bitch, you finna pump the gas. Like, bitch pump the gas, I gotta be safe. I'm behind the tent. I'm gonna make sure we straight. If a nigga talk to you, do whatever you wanna do, but hurry up, get back in the car, bitch, so we can take off. But it depends on motherfuckers how they living their life. That's how I live mine. You feel me? But it can happen.

51:48It happens to the best of us, bro. Like, I done saw real gangsters die, bro. Like, and even my brother, like my brother John John, he died. Like, he was doing the most shit, bro. And for me to know seeing him die, it's like, damn, if he can die, I know I can die. If I feel like I'm gangster, I know he 10 times against it to me. So, shit, anybody can get it, bro. It can happen to anybody, bro. Sometimes some niggas die in shootouts. Some niggas die. Some niggas kill each other. Or I'll be my nigga Drake. He had a nigga try to take his chain, and he killed the nigga that took his chain. But they both died.

52:19So, it can happen anyway. Oh, they both shot each other's hands on that shit? Mm-hmm. Damn. Yeah. That's crazy. He saw it coming, but, man, shit crazy. Street shit crazy. That's why the best thing to do is get out of it. That's why a nigga was. I can understand what 21 Savage would say for the streets. Like, I see what you saying, but you gotta say it in the right way. You feel me? Because it do be hella bullshit going on. You know what I mean? But... So you on the f*** the streets movement side? No, hell no. I ain't saying that, but I understand. I think I can understand where you're coming from.

52:53Let me see the two ways I feel like he's trying to say it, bro. One way, it can be Atlanta was so big, everybody was hella cool with each other and they was the biggest the biggest maker in the game bro Atlanta was the maker of hip hop they was the biggest in the game they was on top of everything everybody wanna go to the A that's just where it's at and they got all these rappers cool with everybody so you know nigga went the snitching allegations on all these niggas and he can't talk to them he can't talk to him he can't talk to Thug he can't talk to it just all split up so he's like man f*** the streets I wanna talk to my niggas this episode is brought to you by White Claw Surge nice choice hitting up this podcast.

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54:58You feel me? We was making money, but when some paperwork came out in his name, it was bad. I had to cut him off. And I could have kept him on and kept the money coming. I could have been up M's. But at the same time, if I got little niggas under me, I got all my people under me, and they seeing me accept this type of shit, then they'll find excuses and they mine to accept it. Well, fuck accepting it. That nigga prone to snitch on your ass. Exactly, bro. Right? Exactly. That nigga got some shit, they're like, man, shit. That's why the game, bro, is when you in the streets, bro, So it's rules and you abide by them.

55:28If you don't wanna abide by them rules, then get out the fucking game. What's the hardest part about being in the streets? Cutting off people you love. Cutting off people you love and not snitching. Don't say that shit easy. Man, that shit hard as hell. Cause you gotta - Not snitching. Hell yeah, because bro, you can tell and come home. Yeah, nah, I feel that. That's hilarious though. You can tell them to mother-man that we got you. We rule your ass grass. you can tell and come home bro. But if you really in the game and you got some type of loyalty, some type of honor in this shit bro, then you would be like, damn bro.

56:03It is what it is. So how you feel about, they saying it's like mad OTF niggas snitching on the case. Like in the trial, they saying that multiple niggas is finna take the trial and try to snitch on dirt. No, we don't know that shit. I don't even know. Nobody really know. There's some shit that's gotta come up when it's time for trail. That's why when motherfuckers take it to trail, they gotta expose who tell it and all that type of shit. You would never know when it come to trail. When it comes to trial, you don't know. I mean, that's just got to be a crazy position for you because it's like you don't want to jump the gun.

56:29You're hearing all these rumors, but you got to just wait it out because you don't really know if there's any truth to it. It's like even me, like people, I have so many people come on this podcast trying to tell me Brick Baby's snitching. Me too. They just said the same shit. Never panned out. And nobody ever like apologizes or takes that shit back, you know? Yeah. We have no reason to think that he did though at this point, you know? So like I don't, and just knowing him, I could never imagine it. Yeah. It's just. I'm not saying break baby but you know a lot of be telling you don't need black and white cause you can you know some motherfuckers just be informing you feel me you ain't never be on black and white you would never be you would die a snitch but nobody would ever know so when you be seeing that they be saying that there's so many niggas in the OTF camp that might be cooperating and shit that shit don't make you wanna fall back from certain niggas till you see how shit play out nah I'm like that in life period like even in my own even I never been just oh I'm in the I'm linked with the OTF niggas, I'm just telling my war stories, I'm exchanging stories, I'm doing this, I'm just doing music.

57:31OTF is really a label, you feel me? And that's that, but a lot of shit that be going on, I really don't be knowing. I just talk to the people I talk to and that's that. What was your relationship like with Dee Dee though? Like how close? That's my brother, that's my nigga. What type of nigga he was, for people who don't really know him though? He a cool, he a funny nigga. I was in the studio, me and him at the last studio session before he went to jail. we was in the studio for like four hours bro and he went to jail next day the next day yeah you know where they arresting him at like where was he at when he got picked up i think at his house or something where was y 'all all right where was the studio session at in chicago all right where so y 'all so he probably got picked up in chicago somewhere yeah probably something like that yeah i just left that i just left that bro it be making me think like damn if i would have stayed where i would have uh got grabbed yeah i'm gonna definitely would have been with him so yeah shit be deep moving around Chicago and shit how you make sure you straight moving around there you gonna be cause you know there be a lot of shit going on I look at Chicago like I look at Oakland like alright better question what's the difference between gang banging in Oakland and Chicago like the difference is what you would say from what you see like street culture I swear to god bro I don't see no difference but the the accent the way niggas talk like they probably say on phone now on BD, on all that type of shit.

58:48Niggas got switches and shit in Oakland? What? Man, we been having switches since, nigga, 2009. What? The ones that you have to make, you have to put on your shit. Once you pull that trigger, the whole thing shoot out. You can't, it ain't no switch where you can, man, you put that thing, they put that motherfucker on there, that motherfucker shoot. As soon as you pull the trigger, it's gonna shoot the whole 30. Yeah. It ain't no switch. You can't, you that motherfucker just going off. We been playing with them hell long ago, but hell no, bro. and shit. It's just the way they talk. Yeah. It's the way they talk.

59:19You come on that shit, you might hear niggas saying nigga on mamas, on sitas, on everything, all that, but you go out there, it's just the way people talk the slang. LA is way different. I don't know if it's colors and shit now, like motherfuckers be tripping over colors, but they still tripping over colors and shit. Yeah, I mean, it's more complicated than that. You got bloods and hoods that get along and everything, but for sure, yeah. Yeah, no. So when you say it's way different, what you see to say is way different? Cause you be mixing around. Yeah, because I come around here where, I remember a long time ago, I had like a red shirt.

59:49Nigga was tripping. I'm like, bro, what the? No, I was in. I had another little thing. I was in jail, right? Yeah. I went, what's it called? What y 'all got? The Twin Towers or some shit? Yeah, the federal building? No, I had no idea. The county. L.A. County. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I was on the 9 ,000 floor. I was on the 9 ,000 floor, bro. You know how Oakland niggas talk. Like, we say blood. We say cuz. We say whatever. So, I mean, I'm gonna fuck one day. I'm like yeah but and the nigga said bro I couldn't over I heard you say something about you know it's a crib dorm I'm like oh no I'm from Oakland bro that's how we talk he like well bro you can't say that shit in here bro I'm like nigga what I'm like where we chunking at this the first time I ever heard the word fade in the wine front we say where we chunking at he like bro what you wanna fade I'm like yeah where we do that at where we fade at he like come on we go do it in the back cuz come on and we go to the back and then we just start fighting.

1:00:43You feel me? Then I beat his ass. Then there was another nigga came. It was like 10 niggas trying to fight me. I'm like, damn. You had a back phase. Man, how many niggas trying to fight? It was deep as hell, bro. How many back phases that made you run? I think I did like two. And then somebody called the CO and shit. I'm happy as hell. You like, God damn, nigga. I'm windy like I'm on. They came. They looked at everybody's knuckles. They looking at everybody knuckles. My hands were shaking like this. My shit was fucked up. That's how they knew I was fighting. Did they give you time in between the fights though?

1:01:17Like, are they like, you part of like immediately? Yeah, I just hear niggas, yeah, I'm on them, cuz. It's on me, cuz, it's on me, cuz. I need that, cuz. But it's kind of weirdly honorable that they don't like jump you. That they let you do it. Yeah, nah, for sure. Cause they for sure could be my ass. But I wasn't going. That's what my main thing is, bro, I ain't going for none of that. Nigga ain't finna tell me what I can, what I can't say. because I'm not a crip, I'm not a blood nigga, I'm from Oakland. This how we talk. We would say, nigga, like how we, we'd be like blood all day. We'd just say cuz.

1:01:44It'd just be like that nigga say blood and cuz in the same sentence. I know to an L.A. nigga that sound weird to say, like man, what the fuck? What, that's just how it is out there. You know who Jaleesa is? Yeah, I know Jaleesa, that's the little bitch. I mean, the little, the little. Yeah, she's a little bitch, for sure. Exactly, Jaleesa. But it's awkward as. She was arguing with Munchie B, who's like from Inglewood Family Bloods, and she's saying blood, blood, blood and it's just awkward as fuck because for him to be called the blood over and over and over by a girl that is not a gangbanger is just so weird.

1:02:12That's how we talk out there. Where she from? She might really be a blood though, isn't she? I don't think so. I think she just talked like that. That's just how they talk, bro. That's how we talk out there. For real, blood, blood, I don't know. That's just how it is, bro. So you've been working on a documentary? Yeah, Beneath the Bottle. Tell me about the documentary When it's coming out When that bitch I should like Next summer Probably this summer Matter of fact Cause I have We had finished the shit bro And we lost the whole shit On the hot speed chase We lost the whole shit On the hot speed chase bro In Atlanta The hard drive?

1:02:47Yeah the hard drive Oh shit So we had to Things be getting away On hot speeds in Atlanta though Cause like in Chicago They gotta stop chasing you After a while But in Atlanta They ain't gotta stop chasing you Yeah we get away All my hot speeds Will get away Probably got caught in Vegas Yeah I wish I had the footage on me I'm gonna show you all that shit. I was in Atlanta. Atlanta one you got. Yeah, Atlanta we get away. But Vegas different. They rich out there, bro. So they tracked the nigga like they had pulled a motherfucker over. I was in Atlanta. I remember I had just bought the Lambo. I took that bitch to Vegas.

1:03:14I got pulled over. And we had a little shit on us. I'm like, man, we ain't stopping. It's over. We going. I'm in Atlanta. I'm finna see what this bitch do. We get the fuck on. We get away. I leave that ass. I go in the casino. they get uh like 20 minutes away bro i go in the casino we're going they're coming grab me out the casino at the crap table bro i'm i asked him how the y 'all find me he's like bro this is vegas we've tracked you from every camera on every street all our streets got cameras we just went from this camera to that camera he said bro if you would have went home we would have came and got you in the money so we just gonna follow every camera yeah there's always so vegas ain't cool don't kick No high speeds in Vegas, bro.

1:03:53They coming to grab you for sure. The more money there is in a city, the more likely they are to really aggressively come after you and figure out. Hell yeah, taxpayer money, boy. So you done taking breaks from music and shit now? You back locked in? Yeah, I'm back on it. Hell yeah, no more breaks, bro. It's all or nothing. It's all or nothing, bro. I got shit to prove. I got shit to do. And I got something to prove to myself. I gotta complete this shit, you know? So, yeah, no more breaks. That's why I'm moving. That's why I'm at the fights. Watching you fight. Mingling with you. Yeah, you networking like you want.

1:04:29Yeah, networking like this band trying to be everywhere. I don't know if I really fought, but I was supposed to. You fought, bro. It looked like I was going to. You got in the ring, you fought. You got in the ring, you fought. Yo, I'm in the market for a new opponent. They got to be a lot smaller than Jason Love. That's my number one priority. You should fight. Who should he fight, Remo? Man, we got to go back to the drone, boy. I don't even know yet right now. I asked a rapper that I know. I was like, yo, you want to do this? and he was like, I'm going to be real. It would be a really bad look for me if I lost.

1:04:54I don't think my career could handle it. Who was it? I don't want to say. It's a rapper that you ain't really seen around for a few years and he's like, man. He wet our blood. Neither. In between. The way he responded to me, I was like, damn. I felt bad for even asking because I'm like, yeah, you're right. It's a weird position for me to even put you in. Because it's a fight that I probably most people would probably think I would win. So yeah, why would I? I think that you would win after your last fight. Yeah, exactly. I know. Well, probably not a lot of people would think I would win after the last fight.

1:05:25I thought you was going to be like, bro, this nigga the fuck with my wife. I'm going to beat the brakes off his ass. Yeah, that didn't really factor in too much, I don't think. White people would be psycho. I thought he would do some psycho shit. You know how white people would be. Like, you hit their ass, they just go crazy. Like, you know. After that fight, I'm more convinced than ever of, like, the genetic superiority of the black race. Yeah. I feel like just him being black had a lot to do with why he was able to do it. You never seen a white guy that big. Yeah, we come from that. What's that shit in the slave days?

1:05:54That shit called? The Mandingo fights. Yeah, the Mandingo fights and shit, bro. Motherfuckers be strong as hell. Mexicans, they rough as hell too though. They can take punches. We try to beat a Mexican ass. He was drunk as hell, bro. We could knock his ass off for shit, bro. For real, we could knock him out. We was in Oakland, bro. He was talking crazy to my nigga. He fired on my nigga. Boom, we on his ass. This nigga was not going up. Niggas was ready to shoot his ass. His ass wasn't going, but yeah, he was drunk. Yeah, he was drunk. Yeah, that nigga ain't felt that till tomorrow. He was not far for nothing, bro.

1:06:26We done broke this nigga pinky. Nigga that stumping his head. My brother over there two feet stumping this nigga, bro. This nigga bouncing right back up. Ain't let niggas go. You can put the gun to his head. He's like, do it, do it. I'm like, bro, this nigga crazy as hell, bro. We can leave this nigga alone. See, I was funny you say that, Because, like, there was a clip back in the day, 2018 or whatever, where I was on live stream and a dude busted into our place and put a gun to my head and it ended up being fake. Yeah. But then, like, we all were, like, beating the out of him because we're, like, waiting for the cops to come.

1:06:59We don't want to let them sit there. So we're all kicking him in the head and shit. Nigga, I'm going to fall. Bro, we had to kick him so many times to knock him out. It was just, like, it was kind of shocking. I'm like, this guy got a thicker skull than me because I feel like you give me a couple good kicks to the head, I'm done. It's over. It's over. Hell yeah. I'm going to die. Nigga was fishing at you. it was over. In that boxing ring, it was over. Oh boy, it's like the Colin Kaepernick in 20 seconds. I was mad. I was like, man, you can't take the Colin Kaepernick in 20 seconds. You know, I would have kept going if I knew that they were going to give me a hard time about paying me.

1:07:29Because they did pay me, but for like, it was... You didn't fight back or some shit like that? Bro, if you read the contract, they would have had a pretty good argument to not pay me. Because it's like, you got to like, fight back. You got to like, you know, you can't just give up. I'm like, oh shit, that sounds exactly like what happened. You ain't hear me? You ain't hear me? I ain't hear nothing. I'm like, man, I knocked that nigga out. I bet at that point you was so, you couldn't even hear shit. I mean, it was just so obvious to me that I was like, oh, I might as well just give up now. What Lena was at?

1:07:57Huh? What Lena was at? You ain't look at her like, you know how that shit on Creed. I wasn't thinking about it. I didn't see you. Yeah, look at the corner and then he turned up. Bro, you got that guy coming towards you, you can't think about anything else. Like, I couldn't, yeah. Like, everything else, when I'm watching the footage and I'm hearing people screaming by the ring, I'm like, oh, all right. Like, I missed all that. yeah no it take it take a lot of heart to even get in the ring bro so i respect that like win or lose i was always taught like shit win or lose as long as you fight so you fought bro you got in the ring picking on my next fight i just gotta find somebody fat i want you down to go at it with me i ain't going against no more black superman type characters oh man my voice is so shit so uh who would you want to work with though music wise and and shit, cause you been checking them off, all the big features and shit, like.

1:08:42Yeah, I for sure. What were your dream feature? I wanna go like toe to toe with Jay-Z type shit. Like, I like the shit they be talking about. Yeah. You know, like I said, I ain't compromise, so I ain't really, really worried about nobody with no big ass buzz, I just talking crazy. Not even if you, not even buzz wise, just like who you feel like your art relate to and shit. Like who you feel like. I wanna do something with Drake, I wanna do something with Jigga, and I want to do something with Sex Spirit. Yeah, that'll be hard. Gotta get Sex Spirit on something. She got that energy. You ever talk to her?

1:09:14She be around and shit. Yeah, I just put, I rapped her, I freestyled her song. She reposted it. Oh, alright. So I'm like, yeah, we trying to put that together right now. We're working on something. We're trying to put it together. Okay, so you got any moves coming up that we need to know about? Album December 4th? Yeah. That's dropping? Yeah, end of December 4th, man. Go listen to that shit. Adam, can you listen to my music, bro? I listen to it. I should listen to it more, but I watched, I watched, like, I sat there for a good half hour last night and watched a bunch of music videos. All your videos from 2020 though.

1:09:47I thought I stopped rapping for a minute. No, but all your videos, like the first videos is like 2020. Yeah, that's what I was talking about. You deleted it, all right, I thought you been rapping before that. Oh yeah, no, it's on another page. It's on another page. Because I'm like, man, no way. That's my real YouTube page. You had a different page or you were putting it on like Fizzler or something? and i had a different no i had a different page yeah oh yeah i put some shit on this a long time ago oh yeah but i had a different uh page an upgang page so i uh so all your old music probably yeah all my old music on there that makes sense i was looking through the catalog i'm like this started rapping like during the cover there yeah i saw the wild on that old page so if y 'all want to see that old bro bro that old wow tell me where to find it at though again yeah uh up game up game 100 again 100 go to shit on youtube that's all that wild shit but yeah though speaking of wild shit too i want to say this too like bro be uh reaching out like trying to do vlogs and but i'd be feeling like you know how they doing them hood vlogs and they be going to the hood i'd be like bro a lot of be reaching out to me bro but i'd be thinking like bro i'm way past that now like they would have caught me like 10 years ago then I would have been that nigga walking on the block.

1:10:59I could have showed you where I got shot at. I could have showed you where we drilled something at. I could have showed you where we went to jail. I could have showed you where I saw everybody die. I could have did that. You feel me? But now it's like, bro, I'm on different shit. You feel me? Motherfuckers buying property. Motherfuckers buying jewelry. Taking care of their kids. Raising their kids. It's a different vibe now. So if motherfuckers want to come vlogging, that's what it's going to be about. That's what we're going to see. That's what you're going to see you're trying to show motherfuckers not tricking themselves off the streets.

1:11:26Because this shit cool, bro, but this shit real tricky, bro. How many rappers you seen get tricked off the streets? Off of music. Many. For sure, yeah. Motherfuckers be getting baited, be accepting other beefs and wars and shit. Like, bro, it's a lot of shit that motherfuckers don't got to do that they choose to do. Even like I mentioned him already, bro, with J-Bo, it's like he had the world in his hands right there and he just couldn't help himself driving around with guns and drugs. Yeah. He young though. So he gonna come from under that shit. But he got enough. Yeah, he gonna come from under that shit.

1:11:58The time he's facing, he ain't gonna be young anymore by the time he gets out if he actually goes in and does 10 years or whatever. Nah, yeah. Hopefully. Hopefully it don't happen. He ain't gonna come home. He just gotta give back. Even motherfuckers was trying to do that. Because he was on tour with NBA Young Boys. Motherfuckers trying to pit us against each other. I don't even know, bro. He don't know me. But nigga, you can't bait me to be going out of him. That's his business. whatever he wanna do he wanna do that's what he gonna do you feel me just like I'm gonna do what I wanna do can't nobody really say shit to me bro yeah nah for sure I ain't gonna just be having no problems with no nigga because a nigga going on tour with this nigga and this nigga got problems that's like that's hella shit that's reaching way too hard that's hella shit cause we don't even know if J-Bo had gone on that tour we don't even know if him and Youngboy would've even been around each other cause a lot of those people were on the tour we never saw an iPhone clip of them hanging out with Youngboy like Youngboy is a superstar.

1:12:53He's in his own world. That's a young boy be for all niggas on his own tour. I heard some shit too. I heard hella shit. Let's show. All right. 900, bro, bro. What do you want to tell him to go with? Follow you on the gram. Check out your YouTube. Follow nigga on the gram, man. 900, bro, bro. Check out EOD4. That shit out right now. That shit going crazy. Get my shit to number one, man. Let's go. Come on, man. Bro, bro. Shout out my boy Remo. Appreciate you, dog. That's all good, bro. Much love. Let's go. No Jumper. Coolest podcast in the world. YouTube, TikTok, all that. Like, comment, subscribe.

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