Charleston White on Chud The Builder, Adrien Broner, Ant Jefe's Case & More

15 Jun 2026 · 2 h 42 min · 59 chapters

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In short

Charleston White discusses his legal history with marijuana and drug testing, his views on alcohol and sex, erectile-dysfunction pills sold in the hood, testosterone/TRT and supplements, strip-club marketing and business partnerships, and gang culture—especially the alleged “DP” (beating) case involving Ant Jefe and the 8 Trey Crips. He also talks about Drake’s album Iceman and broader music/rap-R&B preferences.

Guests

The episode is a conversation featuring Charleston White and the No Jumper host(s) (the transcript references “Adam” and “No Jumper,” but does not clearly name the other guest(s) beyond that). No other specific guest identities are provided in the transcript.

Guest backgrounds (Charleston White)

A Texas-based public figure who claims he has been involved with marijuana, legal trouble, and later comedy/podcast work. He presents himself as a business-minded promoter with connections to strip clubs and brand collaborations, and as someone who has lived through and studied street/gang life.

Key claims

  • His marijuana card led to a judge locking him up anyway; he says he spent 11 months without smoking.
  • He argues gas-station “dick pills” are dangerous and contribute to deaths in men aged 35–65.
  • He claims he uses TRT and supplements (NAD shots, vitamin D, B12, glutacal, L-Arginine) and gets frequent bloodwork.
  • On Ant Jefe: he frames the alleged DP as “honorable” if the person “showed up,” while criticizing “dishonorable” violence.
  • He claims Drake’s Iceman is a “historic” album and that decoding beef is optional.

Notable examples

  • The “revoked bong” story (bong value allegedly rising from $30,000 to $90,000).
  • References to Kevin Sampson’s death and “hood pill” effects.
  • Mentions of Crips/Blood check-ins, Jeff Fort admiration, and John Gotti Jr. walking into the graveyard.

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Chapters

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Charleston's Experience with Marijuana

0:03 to 2:21

Charleston White shares his journey with marijuana and legal troubles.

“Starbucks refreshers concentrates are coming home.”

Alcohol and Sexual Experiences

2:21 to 4:42

Discussion on the role of alcohol in enhancing sexual experiences.

“Yeah, I went, and shit, I started trying shrooms then.”

Risks of Using Performance Enhancers

4:42 to 8:09

Exploration of the dangers of using pills for sexual performance.

“I'm really liable to get it over with too quickly.”

Testosterone and Health

8:09 to 10:19

Charleston discusses testosterone therapy and its impact on health.

“I mean, you just, like, are not in a place where you can be playing with your health by taking serious drugs.”

Introduction to the Nigger Nation

10:19 to 11:41

Charleston introduces a concept called the Nigger Nation and its principles.

“You can bring that wet noodle into the house.”

The Evolution of Relationships and Sexual Norms

11:41 to 14:00

Discussion about the changes in sexual norms and relationships over time.

“I've always wanted to be part of something.”

The Reality of Gang Life and Honor

14:00 to 20:00

Exploration of the complexities and harsh realities of gang culture, particularly relating to gang punishment and honor.

“We now have an accused murderer as a podcast host.”

Reflections on Violence and Loyalty

20:00 to 26:20

Discussion on violence, loyalty, and the morality of gang affiliations, including personal stories and reflections.

“But the only way they found out is because you're talking about it online.”

The Stage of Public Life and Self-Image

26:20 to 28:00

Insights into the interplay between public personas, self-presentation, and the pursuit of respect or recognition in hip hop culture.

“Oh, I'll give something to that family in honor of that honorable man.”

California's Influence on Hip-Hop

28:00 to 29:18

Explore the unique dynamics of California's hip-hop scene and its impact on artists.

“You don't think that maybe NFA wanted us to know that he was capable, like he might have been trying to impress us.”
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Monetizing Personal Brand Through Controversy

29:18 to 30:59

Learn how Charleston White transforms conflicts into merchandise opportunities.

“Chicago to do youth advocacy work or California.”

Discussion on Supplements and Marketing

30:59 to 32:48

A candid conversation about supplements and the marketing strategies behind them.

“You could have gotten anything being connected to you.”

Analyzing Drake's New Album

32:48 to 37:53

Dive deep into the themes and reception of Drake's latest album, Iceman.

“I would hate to take a honey pack and then just have to beat off.”

Cultural Commentary on Hip-Hop and R&B

37:53 to 42:00

Discussion on the evolution of hip-hop and R&B and their cultural significance.

“Them other last nigga put out doubles, and they was good album.”

Discussion on Kendrick Lamar and Cultural Commentary

42:00 to 44:40

Exploration of Kendrick Lamar's cultural impact and criticisms related to his performances and collaborations.

“Well, I mean, when he does his first - Jay-Z was tripping with the Grammys.”

Portrayals of Masculinity in Adult Entertainment

44:40 to 48:20

A controversial examination of gender roles and portrayals in adult films, discussing the impact on perceptions of masculinity.

“That nigga probably needs somewhere to stay.”

Adrian Broner's Recent Developments and Challenges

48:20 to 55:00

Analysis of Adrian Broner's career resurgence through streaming and the challenges he faces with his behavior and lifestyle.

“Say, put my phone on charge so I can show him.”

Viral Fame and Its Consequences

55:00 to 56:00

Discussion on the fleeting nature of viral fame in entertainment and the importance of leveraging that attention for longevity.

“talking to vlad tv charleston who remembers his last viral sensation when you become viral you You got, depending on who you are, you got a three to 12-month run of attention.”

Adrian Broner's Influence and Struggles

56:00 to 56:48

Explore the challenges Adrian Broner faces in maintaining his popularity post-career.

“I don't even stream, and I could be doing what they're doing.”

The Impact of Drunkenness on Boxing Careers

56:48 to 58:26

Discussion on how alcohol affects the careers and reputations of boxers like Earl Spence.

“This is senior to get back to your gift.”

The Downfall of DMX and Celebrity Culture

58:26 to 1:01:28

A look at DMX's struggles and how society reacts to the fall of celebrities.

“There's so much risk that comes with that.”

Upcoming DMX Documentary

1:01:28 to 1:03:06

Details about a documentary on DMX that will showcase his final moments.

“They got over 400-something hours of his last days that I'm going to be working on this documentary.”

Perceptions of Reality in Rap Culture

1:03:06 to 1:06:05

Insights into the disillusionment with the reality of rap culture and persona.

“I was heartbroken when I found out they wasn't real a real team.”

Ray J's Controversial Public Image

1:06:05 to 1:09:43

Discussion surrounding Ray J's public persona and recent controversies.

“Them down off on skid row some of the most dangerous people in society.”

Humorous Take on Personal Experiences

1:09:43 to 1:10:03

A lighthearted recounting of teenage experiences and humorous revelations.

Diddy and Taste Experiences

1:10:03 to 1:11:35

Exploring humorous anecdotes about personal tastes and experiences.

“i don't think he drank i think he's put it on his nipples he liked to taste it did he taste it The man said he'd like to taste cum.”

First Experiences and Reactions

1:11:35 to 1:13:25

Sharing first experiences and reactions to intimate encounters.

“If somebody like tangy candy, salvo now or later, I like sushi.”

Chud the Builder and Controversy

1:13:25 to 1:15:53

Discussion surrounding Chud the Builder and his controversial actions.

“Them niggas out here, yeah, with the porn world, with the Hollywood niggas.”

Racism vs. Prejudice Discussion

1:15:53 to 1:20:22

Delving into the concepts of racism and prejudice in society.

“I was the only black in that entire building supporting him.”

Free Speech and Accountability

1:20:22 to 1:24:01

Debate on free speech, accountability, and societal impacts.

“Nobody on earth, Chud, gets mad over words.”

Chud and Community Dynamics

1:24:01 to 1:25:59

Discussion on Chud's character and perceptions in different communities.

“You think Chud would be able to live in the same neighborhood as you?”

Retribution and Racial Dynamics

1:26:00 to 1:27:19

Exploration of racial dynamics and the concept of retribution in society.

“When we watch, when we hear black people say all the time, white men can't ever call me a n***a.”

Relationships and Alliances

1:27:20 to 1:29:29

Insights into personal relationships with influential figures like QCP.

“not the Chinese not the North Korean You'd be getting money with the whites The one I went to school with and I understand their language Okay And we can talk and we got an understanding Why?”

Critiques of Hypocrisy in Hip Hop

1:29:30 to 1:31:40

Discussion on the hypocrisy in hip hop regarding legal issues and snitching.

“Oh, but ain't nobody off limits when it comes to conversation in the truth or whatever jokes or anything.”

Intimacy and Masculinity Issues

1:31:41 to 1:36:39

Examination of intimacy, masculinity, and societal views on male sexuality.

“They resent him because they stopped giving him good content by becoming a sober person with a mature life.”

6ix9ine and Street Credibility

1:36:40 to 1:38:00

Analysis of 6ix9ine's approach to challenging street credibility in hip hop.

“If that gets you through the day, I'll take that over you f***ing men in the ass.”

Analyzing 6ix9ine's Interview Impact

1:38:00 to 1:40:50

Explore how 6ix9ine's interview tactics psychologically affected his opponents.

“He showed up as an entertainer with facts.”

The Limitations of Street Credibility

1:40:50 to 1:44:10

Discuss the challenges of maintaining street credibility in media.

“And then me, you, and Ray Daniels need to sit down.”

State of Atlanta's Music Scene

1:44:10 to 1:46:10

Examine the stagnation and challenges faced by Atlanta's music influencers.

“When you look at their numbers, they don't have superseding numbers.”

Changing Perspectives on Rap Culture

1:46:10 to 1:49:10

Analyze how perceptions of violence in rap culture have shifted over time.

“All of them It was rapping rapping street.”

The Unique Challenges of a Public Life

1:49:10 to 1:51:20

Discuss the complexities of living a public life with unique career challenges.

“I understand like street culture more than I understand like whatever other culture like a bunch of white kids snapping their fingers together would appeal to.”

Controversy in the 607 Unc Universe

1:51:20 to 1:52:01

Unpack the scandal involving Skinny from the Nine and allegations of misconduct.

“I tell my wife, get away from that nigga over there and talk about that porn shit.”

Discussion on Allegations Against Diddy

1:52:01 to 1:53:19

Analyzing the credibility of allegations made against Diddy and related legal issues.

Debate on Consent and Accountability

1:53:20 to 1:54:46

Exploring the concept of consent in situations involving intoxication and sexual assault.

“Man, I done called the police for some bullshit and they done showed up.”

The Nature of Attraction & Relationships

1:54:47 to 1:57:16

Discussing the dynamics of attraction and relationships in modern contexts.

Reflections on Courtroom Behavior

1:57:17 to 1:58:38

Critiquing emotional displays in court and societal perceptions of justice.

“Metaphorically speaking, though, you wouldn't actually have sex with a fish.”

Gangster Mentality and Police Relations

1:58:39 to 2:03:06

Examining the relationship between gang culture and law enforcement perspectives.

“You get into that situation and you have to pull the God card so you can try to get some sympathy, right?”

Critique of Influencer Behavior

2:03:07 to 2:04:59

Analyzing the responsibilities of influencers towards their communities and followers.

“You got one weapon you don't want to kill how you gonna limit me to your rules and lose I call the police How you gonna beat me?”

Confrontational Remarks and Public Figures

2:05:00 to 2:06:00

Discussing confrontational remarks towards public figures and their implications.

“When you get popular off the people that put you in that position, at least have enough respect for them to push for them.”

Charleston White's Controversial Opinions on Death

2:06:00 to 2:12:26

Explore Charleston White's views on disrespecting the deceased and the implications of his statements.

“I disrespected Peewee and went to them hood.”

Engagement in the Digital Age

2:12:26 to 2:18:00

Discussion about the impact of social media engagement on content creation and personal branding.

“That's why in that city them know So I said what makes it white boy?”

Drake, DJ Khaled, and Political Stances

2:18:00 to 2:20:01

An analysis of Drake's implicit political messages and their implications in the music industry.

“So I have a Palestinian company that gave me a six-figure clothing deal because of things that I've said in support of Palestine.”

Drake's Political Stance and Celebrity Responsibility

2:20:01 to 2:22:30

Explore Drake's nuanced position on political issues and his role as a celebrity advocate.

“They might take you You're out of the music industry forever No no no no No, no, no.”

Cultural Spaces: Synagogues vs. Mosques

2:22:31 to 2:25:22

A humorous debate on preferences for cultural spaces and their implications.

“Would you rather do a show at a synagogue or a mosque?”

The Complexity of Blackface and Comedy's Evolution

2:25:23 to 2:29:08

Discuss the historical context of blackface in comedy and its current implications.

“I don't think you guys are the majority.”

Comedy as a Reflection of Society's Pain

2:29:09 to 2:32:41

Delve into how comedy addresses sensitive issues and the role of comedians.

“I'm going to show him how to be a n****.”

From YouTube to Comedy: A Personal Journey

2:32:42 to 2:34:00

Learn about the host's transition from YouTube influencer to comedian and his insights.

“but I have a deeply offensive sense of humor.”

Charleston White's Journey in Comedy

2:34:00 to 2:37:20

Learn about Charleston White's evolution from an internet persona to a successful comedian.

“So I'm tell you where you're dumb at I'm not looking at the coming section over here.”

The Complexities of Performance and Persona

2:37:20 to 2:40:11

Explore the challenges Charleston faces in balancing his comic persona with personal integrity.

“You run into that problem where they just want viral hijinks?”
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0:00This episode is brought to you by Starbucks. That is fire. Whoa, that's good. This might be the drink of the summer. Okay, I like this one too. I'm rocking with it. Okay. Try it for yourself. Starbucks refreshers concentrates are coming home. Find them in the coffee aisle and make it yours. Oh, I tried the first time like in the third grade. Third grade was one holiday year for you. Yeah.

0:29I mean, I was always in the hospital on some kind of medication, so I don't know what I was. I just know when I'm high, I seem normal. And when I'm normal, I seem normal. Right. But when's the last time you took a nice break from the weed? When I caught those aggravated assault charges in the animal cruelty. So I was on bond for two years. So they put you on bond probation because any time you get two or more felonies, they put you on bond probation. So I had to report to a bond officer every month, and the mother was pissing me. So I was getting by the first time taking the search holes. We went in and taking the search holes.

1:07What's that? It's a gelatin gel. It'll beat the average drug test. So I done seen guys beat DPS drug tests that drive trucks with this. So I came out to the marijuana convention out here in Vegas, and I was with Vlad's, the young Asian chick that used to work with Vlad Shirley. Me and her was in the marijuana convention hitting his Mike Tyson bong, flipping it back and forward and that bitch went viral and the courts got it. And the mother f***er revoked my bong. And then they quadrupled my bong. So it went from 30 ,000 to 90 ,000. Okay. So yeah, I made the bong, got out. I went and seen a Texas medical, I went and seen a psychiatrist.

1:47And they referred me to a doctor and the doctor prescribed me medical marijuana. So I got my Texas medical marijuana card and I started back smoking weed. And when they pitched me again, I went to my lawyer's office and gave it. My lawyer's secretary, Michelle, said, Charleston, I don't think the judge is going to honor that. I said, well, why can't you honor it? It wouldn't be no different if I was in a car wreck. I went to a real doctor. This is real legitimate. I'm in a database. I'm in the Texas Department of Public Safety database for having this card. She said, well, I don't think. And yeah, the judge said, f*** that car.

2:20Locked me up and gave me a no bomb. Damn. Yeah, so I had to go 11 months. I went 11 months without smoking. Yeah, I went, and shit, I started trying shrooms then. Oh, yeah? Yeah, I started micro-dosing shrooms. But you weren't drinking? No. Okay. Well, I'm not a drinker. When I started doing comedy, a n***a be nervous before the show. So, say, give me a double shot. and yeah, that calms your nerves. Right. Yeah, but I ain't never seen nothing cool about a drunk. Yeah, that's overrated for sure. Well, for one, I'm a player type nigger. So being a player type nigger is your demeanor and your composure.

3:03Not just your demeanor and your composure, the way you walk. I got a hell of a walk. I don't want to be stumbling. And then I'm a nigger who like to talk and mac to a female. A nigger that's slurring and his words ain't coming out right sound like a weenie to a woman of intelligence. I'm only going to go get drunk when it's time to go do some thrashing. Yeah, so I only drank to help me f***ing better. Give me the edge. Sex without alcohol leaves something to be desired. It'll really power you through experiences you wouldn't do otherwise. Sex without alcohol is just nature. You're just doing something.

3:39It's not a real experience. You're just in nature. uh so what does alcohol make it uh it makes it uh x makes the sex spectacular well i'm just saying alcohol all of it make it spectacular didn't you yeah all of any anytime you alter your mind uh and and and and you're and you're already in a stimulated mindset uh that sexual experience is great right but i i feel like every drug has a trade-off that in my opinion is not really like worth it on average besides weed i done seen a cocaine nigga uh party like a motherfucker we talking about fucking hole and with the time to hole he can't get his line more started every day that's anybody who does coke that's a constant problem yeah so so this was you know this was running train on hold he'd be over there saying you can't get started oh so yeah yeah yeah yeah now so uh and yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah only time i think you can perform at your best is when you got something new.

4:41You got something new. Something new. I'm really liable to get it over with too quickly. Not me. No. First impression is the best impression. Yeah. If I'm coming new, if I got to juice up, I'm I'm I'm I'm at a high level performance. What do you mean juice up? Whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You a honey pack guy? Viagra? No, no, no. Elephant. I tried from the gas station. I tried Viagra, I tried the pills from the gas station, but then my little bitch started catching me when I pick her up from the field club and I stopped by the store on Angler and I go in there and say, say I need to get 20 on such and such and give me one of them blue rhinos.

5:20And she be watching me and she started asking him when I wasn't with him, say what you be giving my guy at night? So he told on me. The gas station pills, the gas station pills is what's killing the average black man in the hood from the age 35 to 65. That's what killed Kevin Sampson. You think the dick pills are doing it, not the meth and the fentanyl? No, no. Half the niggas I know doing meth by way of a hood pill he bought. The average niggas is being, the average niggas, so when you hear about a niggas 50 years old dying. Right. Man, niggas died at 52. I started going to the funeral, walking up to his best friend, the pallbearers.

6:00When we get back to the church at the repass, and we eating it at the table eating the chicken and shit I say y 'all think them we've been taking these pills for the last the pills to me feel so mild but no they don't when you take them pills you getting a bitch at the gas station I start looking at that shit that shit got 70 ,000 milligrams of what so what they buying they buying the slitherfall the powder the formula sent viagra and Cialis they're buying it like a key of it because I done bought a key of there's a lot of random shit in those pills but all these guys are also doing things that we actually know for a fact are horrible for you hold on they waking up doing this every day every day they waking up doing the drug till we know there's killing me every day listen to the effects of the pill man when you take that shit your vision start getting blurry the lights be you be driving home them bright lights you be blinding the mother when you get the Your dick as hard as it can be.

7:03When you get through fucking, your heart be beating so goddamn fast. Your head go to hurt. Everything is hit. Man, your head be hurting two days later. You be wanting to tell your baby, baby, I'm about to die. You're a little tender. I think it hits you harder than it hits me. You've been taking them. Your body's immune to it. But I never did the extreme shit too. And also, I figured out pretty quickly that I probably shouldn't take a whole one. I got to nibble off a little corner. Them bitches be the size. Them bullets be the size of your thong. Man, them bitches be up there and they're tired.

7:29What are you taking? Man, all the one that's in the hood. But I ain't taking the, yeah. I probably haven't done the hood ones, and I haven't done the real deal Viagra and Cialis. So them the over-the-counter ones. So then later on, they started meeting the old, the old start coming to the young, selling the Viagra, the Levitra, and the Cialis. So this is what the average don't know. When he gets at the age of 30, if he's not working out, he's not eating right, no vegetables, no fruits. He don't get his eight-ounce glass of water. Man, he ain't the best to fuck him. And he jacking that dick out watching porn, so he ain't really stimulated with a woman.

8:09Also, if you're pushing 300-plus pounds, I mean, you just, like, are not in a place where you can be playing with your health by taking serious drugs. Well, no, kill yourself. For that dick, we'll kill ourselves. I'm running myself to the grave for that dick. Right. So, at 30, 35, your testosterone levels, if you're not an athlete, starts declining. They say after 35, it starts rapidly declining. So that's why argue with their girls a lot, because they're not testosterone high. Do you ever think about getting on testosterone? I'm on it. Why do you think I'm so lit? Why do you think I'm so apt all the time?

8:46I'm just not seeing the size that I would typically associate with it. I ain't working out. I'm doing it to f***. So you take the test, but you don't work out. You're like clavicular. The black clavicular. I don't just do testosterone. I do the NAD shots in the stomach, the NAD shots. I get the vitamin D. I get the B12. I get the glutacal, the L-Argentine. I get the shit that Stefan Diggs and Tay Diggs get this fucking Audi ho. You're living like a Beverly housewife. But now, slim and trim. I've always been the way. You ain't never seen no big muscular porn star. It's always a little bit of like me ruling the house.

9:21So I don't work out for muscles. I work out for the endurance and the, and the, to be able to work out. So you inject, you inject yourself with TRT. I go to a doctor. I go to see doctor in it. And he does it what? Once a week? Uh, I try to get in there once a week, but I go every other week because I'm on the road. So, so, so what it does is, uh, the, the NAD, it, it, it, it, it rejuvenates your, your mighty conjurer DNA inside of there because we mess it up drinking, not sleeping, partying. So I'm like the athlete. they have a doctor that you can go to. I do a 40-pounder blood work. And in this 40-pounder blood work, you tell the doctors in my blood everything that my body needs, depleted of, lack of.

10:04So I regularly do this because I'm in a tax bracket where I got this information. I hang out with Stephon and Tate them. So I got to be able to keep up with them. I got to be able to keep up with them. And shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then when I come home, I got that weenie. Oh, yeah. Love the weenie. You can bring that wet noodle into the house. Can't get enough of that. So listen, so we're going to take a little break right now. Yeah, what is this? Now, I know the Crips and Bloods done put you down with the Crips and Blood Nation. Okay. The GDs and the BDs done put you down with the GD and BD Nation.

10:34Uh-huh. We're revoking your membership with you. Okay, where am I now? You are now being inducted into the Nigger Nation. Wow. Real black people of America who don't harm nobody. Pro-life matters? Yeah, yeah. That means choice is right or wrong. Choice is right or wrong. Choice is right or wrong. This ain't about where you were raised, what your mama did or didn't do, what your daddy did or didn't do. It's about your choices. Because when you know right from wrong, your choices matter more than anything. So you are now a part of the nigga nation. N-I-G-G-A is not a word. It's an acronym saying never ignorant, getting goals accomplished.

11:07So now we're making you secretary of state. Great. Well, I would love to join the N-word nation. You've been chosen. Yeah, I'm happy to have been chosen. You already am. That's great. You take it out now. A flag with black and red stripes. This is the real black American flag. Everybody got a flag except the niggas in America. We started here. We're not African, but we are descendants of here by way of slaves. We are seeds that came from here that were slaves. The N-I-G-G-R slaves. These are the seeds that were imported to here and made here. We don't have no connection here. We are Americans.

11:39Stuck here. This is our land too. And this is our brother. He's now in the nation. Say no more. Thank you. Welcome. I've always wanted to be part of something. See, you were. They didn't put you down with the wrong shit. Yeah, they've been introducing you to the niggas that know what to do. See, the gangbanging niggas, the football mind niggas, the basketball mind niggas, the pussy mind niggas, they ain't got no business mind. I'm a business minded niggas. You can't put me in this position and meet somebody like you and think we ain't going to get no business together. Well, I do got to thank my aunt because he has been working on some stuff that I'm very excited about if it does come to fruition.

12:09It is coming to fruition. I ain't just in these strip clubs hanging out at nighttime for nothing, throwing my money. That's marketing, advertising, and sponsorships. So I done made some pretty close relationships and friendships and partnerships with some of the major strip clubs in America. Tootsies. Man, they own 112 clubs throughout America. Why wouldn't I make friends with Josh over at XTC and all that, and I'm there every night spending my money? Let's do it. I never go to strip clubs. And then not just the club. You think about all the girls in there, homie. Most girls that dance got a platform starting out with 50 ,000 to 200 ,000 to 300 ,000.

12:40They have millions of followers who we have access to. And nothing else, data collection from getting emails from selling merchandise and shit like that. I got somebody connected to Tito. Man, Tito just got sponsorship money. They just want to put their name somewhere. Shout out to Tito. I want to impregnate the strippers. Can we talk about that? I'm on a section A-hole. I'm on a section A-hole that's working at Waterburger, that's getting to work on that motherfucking bus. Right on that bus. What a hole be so pretty on that bus line. We could get our asses eaten, too. I've never in my life had it done, I swear to God.

13:08We could just do it, though. We could get into the game. I still eat pizza and hot dogs and chili dogs and chicken nuggets that they fed us from school. I don't try nothing new. If I ain't tried it then, I ain't trying it now. Back in my day when we first started fucking, it was fucking f***ing f***ing. And tongue kissing. Right. Because eating didn't come to round about 92, 93 for the black men during the crack era. So you knew about it? No, no, we didn't know about it. You didn't even know about it? In the 90s? No, we never heard about ass eating in the 90s. Black men would just start eating f***ing.

13:38I ate ass when I was 15 and I felt like a pioneer because nobody else I knew had done it. I was probably 15, 16 years old. You're ahead of your time. I was hyped. Oh, man. What made you do that? It was just there. So I just went for it. Anyway, I wanted to ask you about this. So No Jumper has officially entered into a new territory in our history. We now have an accused murderer as a podcast host. I mean, it doesn't seem like he's going to be podcasting for quite some time, but Ann Hefe was just recently accused of taking a man's life. And the situation we are now looking at is that it may have occurred in a DP on a 51-year-old guy from the same gang, the eight Trey Crips, that he claims allegedly.

14:30That's what the cops are alleging, not I. I used to hang out at San Andrews Park. I used to see some shit over there. Some shit I had never thought I would ever see in life. When you live by it, you die by it. And this is what I tell everybody outside of California. The n**** can't play grandpa at 51. When they say come check in, come into the hood, I wouldn't give a damn if you done moved to New Jersey. You got to say, baby, say, Super Bowl, I got to take off today. You got to come back. That's what make them real encryption blurs. if you ain't getting dp'd at 51 and 60 something you ain't no real you ain't no real gang member because real gang members this is what happened to them uh he died in honor he died with honor living by the codes and the rules and the ethics that they live and die by who crying other than his kids and his mama i have actually seen his kids and mother crying about it on instagram they are out there in the world so that's what i'm saying they are the only ones who really have real hurt.

15:38Well, I mean, his friends. His friends shouldn't. When we sit on these podcasts and we really promote and adhere to the codes. Wasn't nobody sad when Crip Mac got his ass DP'd. I played sad. The trolling. I went online and played like I'm a crime. I mean, y 'all better do it like that. But I was playing like a motherfucker. I'm not sad to see a gang member get hurt and neither is the 51-year-old nigga who showed up to take his DP. That's an honorable gang nigga. I mean it's pretty crazy because like when Critman got DP'd I think we all respected it in a way because he did something that they were upset about so they beat the fuck out of him he showed up and that was it and he was able to move forward after that nobody's supposed to die in a DP they are I've never heard of this one blow to the head can kill anybody for sure but you would think that your own homie you're not going to beat him that bad because when you hit for me with your power and your strength with whatever trauma and anger why you hit me with these kind of blows because if you really love me just think if we was parents and we tell our kids say come on boys get over there y 'all kick your brother ass if you love me you gonna do me like this you go you love me but you gonna do me like this when I fall to the ground y 'all gonna stomp me and kick me my nigga so who wrong nobody this is they life and they rules they've been doing this just over 50 years now his family them been hurting and pleading for this since he first got in.

17:05All of us outside of this shouldn't have no empathy and no compassion for it. Why? He showed up to live it and die by it. That's honorable. That's honorable. He chose his life. He walked it to the graveyard. You know, I got to respect that. Why? Because when I watched John Gotti's movie when he died and John Gotti Jr. was, this is how I met Melvin Farmer through this speaking of gaming. John Gotti Jr. was going to federal trial. He kept beating the feds and he kept coming back charging him. The last time they felt like they couldn't beat him, he said, Dad, I'm gonna take a plea. His daddy said, no, we don't take pleas.

17:40You done took over the family. His dad was saying, no. He was the only mafia leader who wanted his son to replace him. John got it on his deathbed. When the Catholic priest walked in and get ready to speak of it, he rose up and told him, get the out of here. He walked into the graveyard. My old pop's weasel. Texas has spent 30 something years in federal prison, 80 years old walking into the graveyard we ain't real if we don't walk into the graveyard okay because the gangsta before you put the suit on and didn't reform and transform when it got hard and they got old look at look at field most film field most films they can still knock a bitch he down there a hunter how you put the suit on still how they curse blood piru but then took the suit on but still talk the talk like you walk the walk change your tone if you ain't wearing the suit See what I'm saying?

18:30He still won't have sued at 51. No logical man at 51 years old for to take blows to the head from nobody except a nigga that's really walking it. But you know what they would have done if he said he wanted to leave the gang? They would have whooped his ass the same way that happened here apparently, right? Not if he left and disappeared, but he don't have the means and the resources. Yeah, most people aren't going to be a little. But every old nigga I've met from California, I spent time in a home. I came to California like on a research mission. There's no way I knew nobody here I damn there infiltrated every not to infiltrate but because I walked these streets from the bottom Looking like a bomb and cowboy boot and my conversation was good Baba Louie Burfoot Pookie Melvin former big site Capuchin some of the biggest names in the shit They all took me in and sat me down and told me what I needed to hear what I saw at these parks no other place outside of California that came Crippin' Blood got that's got that kind of resilience to be these kind of gang bangers so this is what I'm telling everybody outside of California you're not a real Crippin' Blood because you get to go through 10-15 years come home and live off your reputation you don't get to check in have to come in and and you get to be pow pow the dry trucks when they call something out this way everybody checks in that's all i'm saying okay well one dimension to this is that they're saying that a lot of people think that aunt jefe may not have even thrown a single it don't matter none of us was there like the who made the video saying you win the gang members start talking about dps online because all you want to be podcasters well this allegedly happened back in january and we didn't know about it until now.

20:16But the only way they found out is because you're talking about it online. No, I don't think anybody ever talked about it online. Oh, whatever. Man, they have so many unsolved murders with this shit, it would have been another unsolved crime. I mean, the crazy thing is that this happened in January and the Aunt Hefe did, you know, four or five months or whatever worth of podcasts after that and never, from our perspective, really indicated. You had a murder from some years ago and did a bunch of things since then. Man, when you think you got away, you think you got away. Just back in your mind, you just wandered and pundered.

20:45Yeah. But no, I try to stay out there like, I don't understand it. But you have to honor any man that stand on what they talk on and live on. Well, what if you found out that the reason why he was getting DP'd was not honorable? I don't know, but you can think of some pretty bad things. What Trip Mac got DP'd for wasn't honorable. He got DP'd for Facebook posts when he was in high school. What most get DP'd for is not honorable. It's another feeling some kind of way secretly about another. these are not honorable men most of the physically psychologically man these is brute monsters and they leaders of something it's a control factor because you don't never see the leaders get dp you don't never see the big dog that can really got it and really give it they don't get dp i done seen showed up on some of this shit and be ready to take their dp and the politics come in because he big with some big old shoulders and his punches like donkey kicks no no four five them don't want to run in there well and hefe was like five nine 260 pounds like he was a tank of a man and i bet that 51 year old was a mid-sized because one thing i know about the gang world and the street world it ain't never far it ain't never even playing field and you never see two vipers get in the pit.

22:11Why? Because somebody's reputation is going to lose. Whenever you see two big bad motherfuckers on the yard and everybody be wishing that they hit and get into it, one of them avoids the other one. You never see two vipers get in the pit, whether that's basketball, whether that's boxing. Last time you've seen two vipers get in the pit was Ali and Frazier. Or Hearns and Ray Leonard. These new niggas, you don't never see too bad but to see who the bad is politics kick in tax stone when a lion meet a lion somebody dying that's what i'm saying and don't want to die they don't want to see if that river really flow of milk and honey and if them streets really paved in gold they don't want to see if they they're not like the other muslims that'll blow themselves up and see if it's 41 versions waiting on them they don't want to stay down here for that one set of so that's why i say i thank everybody playing but that's an honorable man that went there to get it but is it is and have they let me finish i'm just about to say okay okay the dishonorable was the one that beat him to death and they say we love our hood the honorable man was who showed up i remember one time homie i got a call in the middle of the night from a from from a og got the prison system say me need to come down here he was my old G of a road in 60s he said say man they gonna put a hit out on your brother i said man i ain't got nothing to do with that me and my mama gonna be hurt if y 'all killed that my brother showed up say what's up what y 'all gonna do when my brother got to the back they say my brother pulled up on all the said come on let's go on get it he showed up for it he showed up for it come on let's go on get it out the way they could have killed him And I told my niece to say home.

24:01I killed my brother home in my mom. I can't get it I got a song mom little life and got up left Then I won't know I would be hurt bad to kill my brother me When you live that shit live it don't get don't get old jail I salute Jeff Fort not because the things that he's done He's an old man who mine still stuck back when he was a young boy So when he call home and talk to people they get on the phone and they give Jeff Ford all this admiration and the admiration that he get Say what's up big homie? What's up school? What's up chief? And he take it in because he in the hole and guess what they write his ass up in the fed and keep him in that dungeon Larry who about to go home because he denounced it publicly.

24:44Don't call him to tell me shit about that shit But because Jeff Ford they love homie Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So now it's only two ways in this. Why you trying to find an escape route? Why you trying to find escape rap now? Big U ain't looking for no escape rap. Big U saw him die. Big U ain't looking for no escape rap. Walk it on through. That's all I'm saying. I wasn't that tough and bad. I was a little boy playing outside some shit I done seen on a movie. And I never became a gang member in the free world. I never in my life seen a cripple of blood outside of colors until I went into the boys' home and seen Lil Rank.

25:25I was fascinated with the camaraderie in the boys home because who didn't have soap to give his boys some soap We didn't know how treacherous was until we went to the penitentiary I start realizing the week is one who can't fight you even though he on the set It's stories about this shit. I Used to read it. It's been rolling 60. They used to rape every rolling 60 was in prison Till he had to kill him They can't tell me nothing. There's documentation and history on this shit. This shit ain't honorable Ask Nip. Ask Black Sam Black Sam so goddamn angry So the honorable nigga, the nigga who showed up to meet death I don't want to be a coward like the rest of these niggas I would like to be like that 51 year old nigga.

26:13If it's my time, I show up That's why for nigga to book me, I show up I told her I don't know if I'm getting booked for a killing But you better be there I gave her the address we're gonna get killed together And I'm dead serious I was in Philly I was in Philly by myself I done did this Gilly son The old Sheen old nigga I advertise my show Not that I think I'm bad but though I walk through the valley Or the shadow of death I shall fear no evil I've been speaking against evil See how evil that is man The mama and daddy crying The hood ain't got no treasury I used to hang with the Latin Kings in Fort Worth when I should do youth outreach They was my youth outreach group and I should go to their funerals And I should watch the Latin Kings have a treasure where they can go to and get a family son Crips and Bloods ain't got no treasure The treasure where we put in some in the pot Man that was a shit on me.

27:11Oh, I'll give something to that family in honor of that honorable man. Yeah, who was trying to be honor. There's no honor amongst these. So how can you amend these rules? These are rules. You get what you can get and get out. Don't trust nobody. Don't where you lay and stay at. Don't talk to the police. Who changed the rules? And there's only two rules to this. death or jail. All the gangster movies, I watched what nobody said but the wife and kids.

27:53What do you think No Jumper's role in this is? Nothing. You don't think we're responsible? You don't call DPs. You don't think that maybe NFA wanted us to know that he was capable, like he might have been trying to impress us. We don't know. He never told y 'all about the murder. I'm just kidding. Oh no, Adam They say you using them But they come to use you This life got some Rewards to it coming to sit over here Because this is one of the biggest platforms If not in black hip hop America For surely in California So nigga this is a big stage For nigga to put cocoa butter on their arm Put their best colors on Cock them motherfucking hats And come perform in front of these big lights Where they get this kind of attention at Because at the park they don't get this kind of attention in the hood at the store they don't this is familiarity this is something new we all chasing the light except me I'm walking with one that's why I light up everywhere I go the niggas who chase the light run into like Giddy holding the light saying hey suck my d*** stay here see I ain't chasing the light nigga ain't no telling who holding the light I'm walking with a light that's why I light up so they were using you my n*** I'm sitting back watching this I'm sitting back watching this California n*** man ain't nothing he ain't got no game And I'm just gonna tell you that, that's why when I decided to leave Texas, I was just gonna go to Florida, Chicago to do youth advocacy work or California.

29:25I came to California because I had a childhood friend who lived here and started working doing youth advocacy work. Oh, that's how I met. Oh, I feel mostly and all that. So, uh, the old who already been to the feds. Then I already told me the California just big and tough bullies. They did. They ain't no game related. That's why they that's why they pipping is gorilla pipping. That's why everything is. So you think that transfers to the podcasting? I'm going to tell you why, because you ain't got no just coming with no business mind. All the niggas coming with gang banging mine. So ain't no niggas came in with no motherfucking t-shirts to sell.

30:02Ain't no niggas started no website. www.therealcharstonwhite.com. Go get this merchandise. So every nigga I get into it with, I turn them into merchandise sales. There you go. So here it is. You connected to a white guy that's probably top five in the porn industry. It's big in the porn industry. Most of these got nice physiques That white women Or whoever would like to look at They got the nice big prison bodies All of them perverted and sexual Talk about who they're f***ing up You got an OnlyFans page They can come over here and shadow your OnlyFans page Modeling in them drawers Showing a d*** print Showing up, breathing their legs You're saying you're going to do this?

30:46No, no, I'm saying they could have done it If they had a business mark Marketing, promotion, advertisement Nobody who ever sat here that came out of California with a black gang-banging mind, went and started over here with a business in mind and used you as a point of reference except AD and the back-on-fee brothers. But they're not doing porn, are they? No, no, they're not doing porn. You're missing my concept. You could have gotten anything being connected to you. What'd I do? Man, I've been to these clubs every night. Same job, man, me and Adam 22. Why? Because you had already came to Texas and you was going to do something with Dallas Show Club.

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31:17I think they didn't have in the budget for marketing to pay for what you wanted to pay for at the time. Oh, yeah. I think me and you had talked about doing something. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I said she. I done connected back to him. It's probably better if I do it on my own because as soon as my wife gets involved, she wants more money. Like, I'll do it for cheaper because she. She got the bigger name. She looks at it. True. She got the bigger name. But she also looks at it as she doesn't want to take a step away from being a mom. So therefore, she feels like she needs to get paid this amount.

31:46Whereas from my perspective, it's like, oh, I get to go hang out with a bunch of whores. That sounds amazing. And we working, though. Yeah. And working. So with that, you know, I mean, you're talking about all type of. So there's no more people in the black entertainment hip-hop world that's reaching out for the liquor brands, the vitamin water brands. Diddy killed it. I done reached for the water, the liquor, everything. I'm in a position to do it. I got brand collaborations and partnerships that I can do that make it that much more easy. You could be like Diddy with Ciroc. I'm trying to be. except I don't have a I'm not sexually driven you know I'm not sexually driven I mean you usually show up with something I like to fuck on the weekends and you also started this podcast by talking about dick pills well we trying to get us a dick pill brain maybe surprise surprise we'll have one so I done been paid$3 ,000 in the store one time by some guys manufacturing doing a honey pack just to take a honey pack in the store and my woman was mad at me.

32:51I said, but they paid me to do it. Yeah. But it didn't work. It didn't work. Honey pack didn't work. I would hate to take a honey pack and then just have to beat off. I do coffee. I use the coffee. Just coffee. It has the El Argentine in it that's natural. It all comes from the ground. Wait, this is your pill of choice right now? No, don't tell our secret. Why do you got it? Because everybody can't get it. Okay. It's natural coffee. That's good. But it has El Argentine in it that has what you need for your libido. Okay. But you're not trying to get a boner right now, are you? Oh, no. Okay. good.

33:20I'm marketing and promotion. Are you going to take that later? You got it in your pocket. I take it in the morning time. Every morning? So this is what it does. So once it goes into your body, your body holds it. And the pills your body starts to use instantly. The L-Argentine, because it's a natural supplement, it goes into storage. And then when you crank up, oh, you crunk up. But if you ain't never crunk up, you ain't walking around crunk up. You just got your chest puffed out a little bit. It's like a hot link in the pot when it starts to boil. It just kind of swell up a little bit. So it ain't hard.

33:53It's just the blood. That's pretty good though, yeah. Don't you see how amped up I am walking around here? I drunk that coffee this morning. I knew I was coming to Vegas and y 'all wanted to have my pistol loaded. I appreciate you showing off to the podcast with a boner, but - Nah, it's not no boner, but it's a weenie. How do you feel about the new Drake albums? Have you got to spend a bit of time with them? I listened to the first one. Iceman. you can't take nothing good you can't overdose on nothing like that on one time you can't so you gotta take your time don't rush cause he didn't take his time putting it out don't be so rushed to judge cause normally you have to listen to an album one or two times so nah man I do think it's kind of odd for the people who listen to all three the first night I listen to Iceman and then I listen to like the half of if you listen to all three you a hater you ain't finna rush through no good shit that you like now i feel very comfortable comfortable saying i like understand all three but it's been a week oh man listen just what i did once you're here one or two you go back to it man play that bitch again i'm a repeat so i might not get through the whole album for a month because one song might stay on repeat for a week right because music is for the soul i ain't listening for the message in the beef and cc talking to it's some beats in there to go tap into the frequency on.

35:14But I feel like part of the reason why you need to listen to the Drake album so closely is because at least on Iceman, there are so many coded references that you're like, you're learning so much about what he's been going through. I ain't messing like no ho. I like to tap my feet and snap my fingers and lay that seat back. You're not curious to hear his deepest thoughts towards Kendrick after all this ensued? No, no. You know why? He stays silent. So he just ain't about nothing. His former great friend, j cole he's got words for him he's speaking to lucian i wouldn't give i listen i'm not in music to depict messages i'm in the music to hear good music yes a message in the music but so is the miracle content in the beat frequency but i feel like part of what you get from a drake project is you get to learn so much about what it's like to be the biggest rap star of all time which he doesn't really do interviews where he talks that deeply that often so this is the kind of thing that you really get to find out about through the music, right?

36:13You have to be very in tune into the beef to be able to depict who he talking to. I can't figure out who he talking to. That's part of the fun. You go on Twitter and you see people break it down. You watch some videos. So there's a song Lil Baby got, Other Boy. And in that song, he said, turn the boy into a male stripper. Somebody say he talking to this guy. I didn't know that since somebody said it. Yeah, I probably wouldn't know either. That's what I'm saying. Who's a male stripper? Who's he beefing with? I ain't finna say that because I fuck her. So listen, so I don't know he talking to this nigga but the song of Motherfucker Turn a Boy into a...

36:50That's a good punchline. But a lot of the biggest artists are like this now because Taylor Swift, same thing. People love to pick apart her lyrics and try to figure out just talk about her past relationships but you could be a surface level Taylor Swift fan the same way you could be a surface level Drake fan or you could dig into all of the depth. Luther Vandruff was singing love song like a motherfucker. Right. Nobody knew he was singing to a man. Freddie Jackson, singing like a mother. I never, so I'm not listening. I'm taking this and internalizing it. I'm not trying to figure this man out.

37:25My life is, music heals the soul. Get you through shit. Nigga, when I'm feeling good and that good motherf***er song, come on, I ain't think I'm in a n****** beefing. But so, okay, given your ability to decode an album is based mostly on just how it makes you feel. How do you feel about Iceman? When Tupac was talking all that shit in Machiavelli, I wasn't trying to decode it, and I'm still not trying to decode it now. How's Iceman making you feel? It's a good album. This is a historic album. Hell yeah. Last nigga did this was Tupac and DMX. Them other last nigga put out doubles, and they was good album.

37:59He done put out one good album that I done heard. I ain't got to the other two. Why? I ain't rushing through nothing. I'm going to go back. Let me play that bitch again. The Blueprint 2 was a double album. Yeah. Pretty good album. Yeah, yeah. Blue Tank Forever. Yeah. But it has kind of fallen out of favor. But a lot of people put out albums now that like, even Drake's past albums like Scorpion and shit were kind of like too long to be like single albums. They were more like playlists or whatever, remember? Man, the boy, the boy give hip hop something else other than gangster, killer, fool, pervert, dope fiend.

38:35Right. He the Fresh Prince of Bella. When Fresh Prince was the hottest rap nigga, and you ain't have to have a gun. Or he make it cool for the mixed kids, or the kids that can't play football. Or men, nah, he get to enter our household because he ain't a one trick pony. Most niggas who rap is a one trick pony. That's why they can't hate, and they black. They super black. Now, if they was a little bit more yellow than Drake, they could have the same, but everybody know the yellow nigga get all the favor. been like that since grandmama had. That's why Clarissa Shield mad at that other little yellow girl.

39:09Because Clarissa was the ugly black project girl with the bad, you know, the ugly, yeah, they can fight good. This little pretty yellow girl putting a groove. So that's what all that's about, man. I'm kind of like... I ain't talking to you, I'm talking to you. No, I feel you. I'm just saying, yo, like, modern R &B kind of misses me, like, it's just not my favorite genre. You don't know nobody on R &B. So for me, like, I would rather Drake separate... Yo, he needs to segregate the hip hop R &B song. A good R &B song. Name one good R &B, two good, three good R &B songs from your era, high school, that you could make love to.

39:40Yeah, I don't even know, man. Nothing comes to mind. I don't know. Jodeci? Jodeci was there. I used to see him on MTV, but not, that's a good example. Like, Jodeci, I see him on MTV, like, okay, maybe the song gets stuck in your head a little bit. So you ain't never slow danced to a love song? No, I'm sure I have, yeah. A R &B love song? Yeah, I'm sure. Slow dance is like a very specific usage of a song, right? You a John Legend type. You're a John Legend R &B white boy. I've never gone out of my way to listen to John Legend. Name an R &B singer then. R &B singer? Trey Songz? One time I saw, what's his name?

40:13Chris Brown. Oh, yeah, Chris Brown. Okay. I know Chris Brown, yeah. I interviewed Usher. I know you know Usher's song. Yeah. Let it burn, let it burn. Which was about having an STD, right? No, no, no, no. See, I'm looking at it deeper. You've been burning before. You think that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Or is that just because Kanye said he cut something off the usher so he had to let it burn? No, he said that fat girl. But that wasn't naturally what the song was about? That fat girl said he burned her. And she went and got Laura Aldridge for a lawyer. So you know you're going to get Laura Aldridge, you ain't bullshit.

40:45Okay. But do you think that you might appreciate the R &B? But that song was about him and Chili breaking up. It was? Yeah. Okay. The other two albums are more like pop, R &B, easy listening. That's for Aiden and that's for a streamer crowd. That's for a white boy. Right. He gave something for everybody. Made a table of food for everybody. Right. And we get to chew on it for a while. Pause. So now I ain't got to pause nothing. Yeah, you chew on shit, don't you? It just ain't worth it. I ain't pause nothing. I mean, chewing on it is pretty intense. Oh, man, they don't chew on it. Yeah, they don't chew well.

41:17Granddaddy said they not on it. Honestly, Made of Honor has like six or seven songs. The intro seven songs are like all future massive hits, as far as I'm concerned. It's seven songs. At least. The average nigga out there got seven bangers on. It cools off a little bit partway through, but the initial five, six, seven songs are just... I bet when the Grammys come, he clean up. He doesn't submit to the Grammys, so he can't even win. He basically disrespects the Grammys by saying, I'm not submitting to you. I don't even want you to have me in consideration, which is, on the other hand, Kendrick submits every year and wins shitloads of them.

41:56Well, that explains it all. How do you feel about that? That explains it all. How do you feel about that? Yeah, Kendrick sold out. Oh. Yeah, Kendrick sold out. Well, I mean, when he does his first - Jay-Z was tripping with the Grammys. Puffy was tripping with the Grammys. Yeah, Kendrick sold out. When Kendrick does his first interview after the beef, who's he do it with? Harper's Bazaar, which is like the most white-coated publication you could think of. That's why they let him perform such a song, not like us at the Super Bowl. That wasn't a family-friendly song. Yeah. At all. That wasn't no song you let a motherf***er come bounce around and twist them ugly ass feet up and then Michael Jordan tennis shoes on stage.

42:32Throwing them gang signs. He even brought Serena to them out there with that shit. That was, yeah, yeah. Them was the porch monkeys on the porch dancing for myself. Yeah. Look at my niggas. On Iceman, Drake tells her to basically go off, don't ever try to be cool with me again. Yeah, well, she got a, she done went, she done went cross the railroad track and look how the white boy doing. Mm. Because, you know, every black woman can't come over there and live with them. Because y 'all, y 'all go like a monster, like a caveman. See how much me now not y 'all but your cousin here, but I mean yeah You're saying that there's something untoward about how I would her I would I would I think I would do a solid job I don't care the right way.

43:09Well, this is all I'm saying And I don't I got If I could so if I'm saying when you watch the white boy porn he pretty brutal He's like a cage man You don't know if he killing or hurting or say he'd take a bitch to the extreme would say, he better say, the white boy put one, say, man, where gagging come from? You don't want to do your woman like that when she come out. White people invented gagging. Her eyes about to pop out her head, snot running down her nose, and you done put it back. Man, the white boy mean in the mother. This thing in porn that you don't really, I assume most people are not really doing that much like throat f***ing in real life, right?

43:46Well, even when y 'all, man, the white boy is just brutal when he f***ing. I'm going to chill out. The Latin boy, he like a Latin lover. okay and what is a black man the black boy he smooth with it yeah yeah he smooth with it unless he got the super long torpedo then he turned into the mean white boy yeah that nigga with that big old lord like a white master he's like a white man he's mean in the mother so let me tell you something there will be times in the middle of that's why niggas ain't sensual there will be times in the middle of an orgy where i will like everybody's all the girls right yeah each vagina has had five dicks in it.

44:20And then there will be a black man in the orgy and he'll start eating out the girl after all those dicks. That's them niggas that eat Rayman. And I'll be looking at the guy out the corner of my eye just thinking like, this dude is way different than the types of dudes I do the projects with. Hey, listen, hey, listen. That shit would not fly on the No Jumper show. That nigga needs somewhere to stay. That nigga probably needs somewhere to stay. He don't gotta do that. You'd get no extra points no extra pay for eating the pussy after it had five bucks in it. Hey listen, even the guys on your No Jumper podcast done it.

44:54And I'm finna tell you when they done it. Most of the guys done it back in high school days. Listen, back in high school days when it was popular to run trains on girls. We was going in one at a time. Or he was walking to home, finishing off saying you ain't gotta do this no more. I respect that. Yeah, so he won them more. that, yeah, man, some niggas eat so good, they think they can catch something with that mile. Yeah, then some niggas say, man, all I need to do is put that dick on her. And I'm saying all I need to do is talk to her. Just let me talk to her. Let me ask you this, just about the Drake thing.

45:28The biggest critique that I see people trying to push about Iceman is basically that they think that it's tacky or corny, that he sounds bitter, sad, aggrieved, sort of salty at everybody, and that that kind of turns them off. Personally, I don't take it that way, but that's the biggest theme I see. I haven't heard that in noun song. What I hear is a nigga tooting his horn, running a victory lap, saying, I ain't nothing like y 'all niggas. Any y 'all been hating on me because I'm a yellow nigga with a white mama and grew up in Canada. That's what I hear. I don't hear no nigga tooting his horn, saying, I put you on.

46:12I was supporting you niggas like no other I don't hear no niggas saying I'm sad and mad I hear him getting shouted out to this streamer I hear him let me just say this let me take this back I see him putting the light back on niggas who tried to take the light from him boy that's that's how you exit the stage with grace and this is last three albums to release itself out of a contract that he don't want to be in. So he get to dust his hands off, satisfy a contract, jack his own off in front of the world with the lyrical content. Because that's what I see him doing, jacking off in front of the world saying, I made it, nigga, y 'all ain't like me.

46:55Now I'm finna come over here and from what we hear now, while y 'all saying this, I hear they finna offer the boy a billion to sign now. He insinuates that, yeah. I heard multiple media outlets insinuate it, just like they insinuate he's angry, he's bitter, and he sound disgusted. So it's a flip side to that coin, too. Right. I mean, he brings 21 in to say there's bees on the table. Well, all I say is future. You don't see future fucking with baby. You don't see future really fucking with thug. But he say, shit, nigga, he with this nigga. That's the most interesting thing about that. That's what got me.

47:30The fact that future is back and that they don't do anything to explain how he came back. What's understood don't have to be explained. and uh uh you don't get no nigga no explanation about you and your partner well we never got an explanation for why they were beefing in the first place so we don't get an explanation why they're back cold when you and your partner fall out don't nobody have to need and need to hear an explanation for you and your nigga if y 'all really niggas now if y 'all ain't really niggas then you come give an explanation but there's some people i done had some fallout with i don't give no explanation too no and we done because of that uh we can really mend it back here because we keep y 'all out of it.

48:07Whether that's a relationship or friendship, got to keep y 'all out of it. Yeah, no, definitely. Yeah. Okay, so how do you feel about the Adrian Broner resurgence that we've really seen through streaming? Say, put my phone on charge so I can show him. Him and Dean been really going up. Great content. Great content. How do you feel about it? I don't see longevity. I've seen many people come in the moment And do this for the moment And nigga, shit By Christmas time, they ain't in the moment Content in everything Is everything Their level of content won't last long You know what I'm saying? Because it's so grounded in him drinking And being a party animal We've never seen a good outcome with a drunk That's drinking That already has past problems with being a drunk That drinks Because why?

49:00When he gets drunk, he gets violent Yeah The more drunk he get, the more confrontational, the more violent he get, and he's touchy, friendly with everybody. Right. Say, man, you a bitch-ass nigga. He's grabbing the girl's ass. Well, actually, she apologized for that, I believe, because he didn't really. Well, they paid her for that. You think? Yeah, they paid her for that. That might be smart. Because you don't run to the internet. Why? Because somebody coaching her to run to the internet. Nigga, she ain't number 19. Yeah. She ain't number 19. And who letting their 19-year-old daughter get up in their midst?

49:28Somebody that's ready for the play? They still got them R. Kelly mommas and things and sit out here and let's go sit them in there. Didn't y 'all just see it's a video of a it was a video of something of a release of a girl coaching her young teenage daughter how to get to NFL nigga. It's some mommas and ain't coaching you little ho to get up in there. So that's why nigga I'm gonna throw so what ends up happening? Yeah when the snake bites you oh he tried to come on to me y 'all pay her to hush up or she say I'm sorry you let the snake come back up on you? Y 'all let her get back in? around you again everybody know the American black man is weak for the the American black man typically go foul behind the you can look at all of them they go foul but it's gonna be a woman it's gonna be foul so I've been watching and paying attention I don't like nobody who like me so I like to talk you can't come up and f***ing is all we talk about in my mind that's the trial so my nigga told me when I first got famous he said say blue you know how they go get you huh money and pussy chasing money and chasing pussy so when I see them they chasing money and pussy or when I see the other streamers they got some of substance every half part of their gets a fight past behavior dictate future performances so if every time I see two squabbling their relationship is built on squabbling like a nigga in a hole that's a toxic relationship they they fight the fuck to make up because that's the sensation and the thrill of this duo right if I'm older than you I ain't gonna be homie you you ain't gonna be bitch ass nigga so when I'm watching that I said something I said something about it long before she made that accusation.

51:29Because we don't watch this happen to Mike Tyson. Tupac. Tupac fucked the bra. She sucked his dick on the dance floor. Came in the room while he was asleep. His homeboy went in there and fucked her. And he got charged with s*** of me. So this is the trap and the trick that's been getting all the tricks you like to play with in the traps. Oh. Nah, nah, nah. So when I saw that at home, I said something. He hit me back up. Adrian. Yeah, he made a video for it. I didn't watch the video because I know a drunk mind and a sober mind is a reprobated mind. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I didn't give his words no attention.

52:09So I just know my words were defective if he responded. So what ended up happening, I talked to Mr. Carl Lewis, which is Don King's attorney. I've been in talks with Don King and Mr. Carl Lewis about partnering, taking over Don King's boxing promotion. Really? So I might end up being his boss. Oh, wow. So that's why I said something to him. But you think he has any kind of future boxing? Yeah, he do. Hell yeah, he do. So I tried to get a fight with him and Aaron the Plumber, but Aaron was scared, talking to Don King. Aaron the Plumber should not fight Adrian Broner. Well, I feel like anybody can whoop Adrian Broner right now in the shape of you.

52:42He only got 30 seconds. He still looks pretty good. He got 30 seconds. But I don't care how good you are without stamina and endurance, you ain't shit. I mean, Aaron the Plumber is like X'd out of the combat sports world forever, don't you think? I'm trying to get him to fight with OG Gigavelli, a guy that's been 17 years in prison, known for boxing. I think he'll whoop Adrian Broder in the condition and the shape he is in 30 to 60 days. So I started a sports management company with my attorney, Miss Blanca. So I've been getting into boxing. That's why I said something to him. And when I said something to him, I had nothing else to say.

53:15Everybody who's tried to do anything business-wise with Aaron the Plumber has come to regret. Yeah, I did too. Aiden Ross, Vlad, me, everybody. The only reason Aiden did that because I took Aiden, I begged Aiden, come on, man. Man, I walked him back to Aiden. Right. That nigga crossed me. I believed in him a lot, too. Yeah. So I said something to Adrian. And shout out to Mr. Carl Lewis, Don King's attorney. And shout out to the people of Cincinnati. I got so much overwhelming. Not that I'm looking for affirmation. That was just saying, come on, homie. Nigga, you getting a second chance. when most niggas don't get a second chance.

53:50Right. And, nigga, you're on the biggest stage now. And this is what you come back to show the world that you're in these conditions with this mind, this behavior? I remember before I knew who he really was, he was real big. I watched him go into a Burger King with$10 ,000. You said, like, in a video or something? In a video. Okay. A viral video. And he wiped his ass and threw over$3 ,000 in the toilet. Wow. So when I see him begging for money in those conditions, I said boy look at this So nigga when God Whatever you believe in Or whoever When they put you back on this stage And you get a chance to rise Your fall gonna be harder and greater Because nigga this is what you gonna do with the chance You supposed to be back in that bitch streaming And you and that nigga After the party Nigga now it's time to get serious It was trillions of dollars in that event last night How you nigga laying back on the stage When they ask you about fighting You bring up yeah my baby mama at some point black man you got to put get serious nigga but he i mean he's streaming while he's there they got 20 000 people watching the clips are going viral so this is what i'm saying this is what i learned and this is why i beat all these niggas i learned early from talking to vlad tv charleston who remembers his last viral sensation when you become viral you You got, depending on who you are, you got a three to 12-month run of attention.

55:17Some people have like three days. Just hear me out. But there's levels to viral. But just hear me out, depending on who you are. Yeah. You got three months to a 12-month run. Depending on what you do in that light. That light either going to get brighter or darker. I done seen many get darker. Aaron's got darker. Bosco got darker. I can go on and on and on. Boy, Drewski's got brighter. Yeah, the biggest anybody's ever gotten. Country Wayne got brighter. Desi Bank got brighter. Charleston White got brighter. Why? Vlad said, you just don't want to be a viral sensation. So, nigga, I started a website, merchandise.

55:58I'm not just gonna get on here, nigga, and stream and lie. I don't even stream, and I could be doing what they're doing. Why? You won't get a lot of sponsorships and deals. Why? You stuck over here with the kids' crowd. With this kid's audience. And Kik already got a structure for who they done gave the big money to. So come work, boy. But we're going to feed you good, though. But that's a job. Having to do this every day. Right. I mean, I think the real question and the test for Adrian Broner will be, will he be able to be a popular, sustained influencer, social media character, etc., once he kind of gets past the drunk crash out stage?

56:37You don't think he got it? He don't have the gift. He's entertaining drunk. Being obnoxious or male chauvinist, disrespectful. His gift is boxing. He's a legend. He's a genius. Your gift is what you fall back on. Yeah. This is senior to get back to your gift. Right. But you stuck over here having party, f***ing whole drinking. Yeah. So, yeah, no, no, no, no, homie. He had a chance to, and it's not too late. But I never knew, and I hate to say this, because his camp asked me to not speak on him. I never knew Earl Spence drunk when he was at his height. I went to a Dallas club, North Dallas club one time.

57:25I seen him three different times, drunk in a mother. How you going to be the champ like that, nigga? I seen him one time, he wanted to fight drunk. Then I heard Adrian Brown say all heavyweight champions have an alcohol problem Then I heard then I became best friends with Shannon Briggs and Shannon Briggs said champ I don't drink no more because I was drinking he became a whole different person stop drinking Let's go champ for getting into his body weight That's what I be looking for when I see Adrian. Yeah homie So I know from doing podcasting him doing podcast with podcasts I've done Everybody say this is how he come drunk and want to fight so when I'm sitting back watching this I'm saying like I see the California nigga say my nigga you can't put me in this position and think I ain't gonna win God can't let me up prove it these people nigga They put me on these cameras and lights and think I'm not I ain't just here to entertain nigga I got a mind so I'm gonna shirt now nigga I ain't no dumb black man I ain't the nigga dancing on the porch So nigga when I cut the cameras off I'm somebody somebody's executive room will sit down and talk to uh them niggas can't uh come out of character on or off camera so i'm saying you killing yourself nigga ain't hating on you i told him nigga i ain't talking down on you all those all those viral moments are like fights grabbing the guns against him in court they turn into lawsuits they turn into settlements so unless you're directing this live streaming traffic into something that is profitable or who knows maybe maybe that's just your thing you're gonna be a real streamer forever up there for a major lawsuit.

59:03There's so much risk that comes with that. I send my daughter over. I keep my daughter on them niggas' ass. Why? Because there's too many entities that you can sue. Yeah, yeah. Kick. There's too many entities that you can sue to promote. I will send my daughter over there. Niggas dress her bad. But be a lady and document it. Yeah. Hey, go get sexually harassed by this guy. No, no, no, no. That's the game? Just go there and be in the presence. They're going to do it regardless if you're bad. Okay. Why? Because the black man touch what he like. He do it in the club. And normally it's kind of blurry like what is happening, but it's all on live stream, so it's perfectly documented, right?

59:40Well, here's the thing. They're not around men and gentlemen. They're around boys and frat boys and mid-age with high testosterone, very, very complete brain development, and they horny. And they're being fed alcohol and drugs. Right. This is what this is for. But nigga, when you get in that mix and you've been a full-time world champion and you already got history and the documentations with this and you offend people to make them want to be venomous towards you. You never make nobody feel like they're worthy to be in your presence. I mean, people will watch any old random person crash out and be drunk and act like a psycho.

1:00:30They go on social media. But somebody that they used to revere as one of the greats in boxing, like that's real catnip for the people. You know what was the greatest one? Oh. DMX. When DMX failed from Glory, boy, I don't know. DMX used to be... DMX was a bad motherfucker. Nobody have sold albums like him. He was in movies. Niggas in all the major movies. Then he went back to doing drugs. Then he failed, started going to jail, child support. Then he went to Arizona and boy, every other week we were making fun of him online. And he was one of the greats, niggas. He was smoking crack. And he wasn't ashamed about it.

1:01:15Yeah. When he died, for two days, everybody played like they loved him. You ain't heard a DMX song or documentary reunion, but guess what? The family reached out to me. They got over 400-something hours of his last days that I'm going to be working on this documentary. You're working on a DMX documentary? I'm going to show you. Yeah, I'm going to be working on it. And you're fully in charge of this? Well, I got... I'm going to be narrating it. Okay. I'm going to be narrating it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to be narrating it. I mean, like a DMX documentary. Like, Old Dirty Bastard. There was never, like, a great Old Dirty Bastard documentary, right?

1:01:56No, they forget about you. But he was wilding out. Like, if you do that many drugs, people don't really... You know why? Because you die when you wasn't great. Like, all the greats. Whitney didn't die great. Right. Michael didn't die great. Yeah. Prince didn't die great. Why? They die dope fiends. But Tupac and Biggie... They didn't die great either. well they died at the height of their success they became more so they get immortalized in a way that's different so they didn't just die yeah they became mortals why it was heightened success king von heightened success mode three heightened success when you get past the success like all the greats do i'm gonna go back and get the old holland globetrotters and you go play on my team Not the new Harlem Globetrotters.

1:02:40The old ones who done been forgotten about. Okay. There's no more old that's being introduced to the young. You seem like you would fit in good with some, like, 70-year-old Harlem Globetrotters. I will. Yeah. Nigga, I grew up listening to them at the barbershop. Them with my Michael Jordan. That shit out between the legs. Yeah, I loved that shit when I was a kid. I thought it was so cool. I remember being amazed when I found out that they weren't a real team. Me too. I was heartbroken. I was heartbroken when I found out they wasn't real a real team. I was heartbroken when I found out the Rasslers wasn't really real I was heartbroken when I found out Santa Claus wasn't real I was a real kid that grew up believing all these things was real down there until I was a teenager but you know what really broke my heart when I found out rappers and street niggas wasn't real I didn't find out until I was in my 30s I didn't know rappers and these niggas that's been talking this shit.

1:03:38I didn't know they wasn't really real. I didn't know when the police told them niggas to freeze, they froze, I thought they kept running. I didn't know that when they got in the white man's court system, they put on a suit and glasses and cut they hair, and when the bailiff said ride, they rose up. I thought them niggas went out with their hat on and the judge had to tell them, sir, you need to remove your hat. I thought them niggas sat in court like this here. I ain't know them niggas went down there and started calling the prison guards boss say look at that boss lady I ain't know that I thought when a nigga got 10 years he went down there and broke every rule in prison I didn't know niggas went down there and followed the prison rules to try to make their first parole Adam why you been breaking rules all your life now when the white man gets you now you want to follow rules but that's the standard for being a gangster is you have to break every rule?

1:04:36You can't listen to anybody ever? John Gotti said it. When I watched Pablo Escobar, everywhere they been, they broke rules from elementary to the end. All the other niggas I saw before me not fought, even they got to prison, they didn't follow rules. But the goal is to break the rules and then not get caught. No, it's not. Yeah, that's what John Gotti, that's what he's doing. He's creating elaborate ruses to be able to break all the rules and get away with it. John Gotti hated Sammy the Bull because he never went to prison and got caught. young god he hated him it must have felt very unfair well because you're not battle tested if you don't get caught why everybody get caught but that's what all the gangsters say about each other too he never been to prison so he ain't okay you're not yeah you're not you're not you're not i mean you're still something you're nothing you're nothing so you got 10 bodies but you never went to prison and you're nothing you're nothing because you're gangster because you're what you got everybody you're a master criminal you got away with it all the nigga that get 10 bodies follow rule by no niggas in there.

1:05:35He don't get 10 bodies in there. Why? It's easy to get 10 bodies shooting. In there hand-to-hand combat knife. They don't get them same bodies. Right. They be coming there and become Muhammad Yahweh. All the killers on the street that the real shooters ain't the bad niggas in there. The bad niggas be them DMX dope fiend niggas we be laughing at smoking crack. Why? When them niggas get in there and get off that crack and go to eating all that They look like Tookie. And them be real dangerous. Cause dope fiend niggas dangerous. Them dope fiend niggas be dangerous. Them down off on skid row some of the most dangerous people in society.

1:06:13When you get in there, that's them dope fiend niggas you been laughing. Now they big homies. Say look out big homie. Say look out OG. So yeah, miss me with the killer talk out here. You are not gangster if you ain't been to prison. And prove your gangster. I ain't gangster my nigga. Right. I stopped trying to play gangster as a little bitty boy when I didn't go to prison. Well, speaking of gangster, how are you feeling about Ray J's gangster since he got unceremoniously knocked the fuck out by Superhot Fire last night? I was hoping he killed Ray J last night. Y 'all really hoping Ray J got killed last night.

1:06:47Why? I'm ready for him to die. Ray J's a great man, a great American. No, he ain't no Ray man. Nigga hating on the bitch that made him famous. His sister didn't make him famous. The Kim Kardashian tape did. he be thankful to them people he should be thankful to both of them Brandy Brandy don't fuck with him he get a name he done really made Brandy sick that's why she don't fuck with him he's a fuck up so she does never acknowledge him publicly he's a fuck up that's like Raven not acknowledging Orlando Brown why would he if you have a celebrity with a relatively clean cut image and then you have a sibling who's out of their mind off drugs you gotta separate what else are you gonna do you gotta just keep them at arm's length remember uh nick carter and uh aaron carter yeah you never heard a word from nick throughout all that for one you don't want to bash your brother if you're raising a good home you ain't gonna kick your brother in the ass but you just don't acknowledge it yeah when you're famous it's different but you can't just be arguing with him in the public eye you know and argue with him at home.

1:07:52Yeah. Why? He a fool. So this is what I'm saying. Just seven, eight months ago, the boy was on stage with dripping blood, how the body is fit to die. He was in the hospital. He was in jail for threatening the baby mama with a gun. Oh, so he said he got six months to live. Nigga gone die. If you wasting time on earth, if this is what you're doing in your last day. If mother tell me I got six months to live, nigga I ain't fit to do no UFC boxing match you know what I'm saying? no I mean if he wants to live longer he probably needs to get in shape and if he transfer a boxing match he's gonna get in much better shape he don't wanna live long that's why I'm telling him don't die don't start telling himself he dying and lose weight and lay up somewhere yeah quit trying to act like he wanna live longer I mean I'm gonna be real he came off very unwell well yeah nigga die yeah yeah it looked like he got knocked out too easy and looked like he was just too, like, I can't fight worth a shit, but he looked bad.

1:08:54He should not make me have confidence in where he's at right now. Say, my nigga should have jumped on top of him and beat him in the face like the real UFC to fight. He just should have let him lay down there. He should have kicked him in his ass, too. Told him a lesson. Super hot fire? Yeah, he should have kicked him in the ass, kicked him in the face. Do him like them niggas do him when they DPing you. Kick him all in his ass. Well, you can't do that. It's a UFC fight. Yeah, you can. Oh, you mean like... Man, he can come down... But he knocked him out the fight. Man, you make the ref get in there.

1:09:21Man, you don't just stand over him. Nigga, you do him like you do him. Yeah. You said, nigga, this Brandy's brother. You show up, man. Yeah, man. You make an example because he been talking tough. Yeah. Yeah, he been talking tough. And he been talking about he going to something. So he supposed to kick that nigga out of his ass like Mondana did Broner. Then Mondana whooped Broner, had him walking with them baby new legs. Boy ain't been right since. it's a very rare black dude who will like threaten to basically rape their op well he has apparently just entered into that multiple times he's been f***ing with diddy rager he said he done played been f***ing with diddy he's been hollering free diddy advocating for diddy man that we had we got federal testimony that diddy is a calm drinker he drank calm with his woman i don't think he drank i think he's put it on his nipples he liked to taste it did he taste it The man said he'd like to taste cum.

1:10:15Don't make me ask the AI. Did he taste cum? Man, don't read the court testament. That's what the man flew in and said. Well, listen, if he wants to taste cum, he can taste cum. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I ain't got to taste for a bunch of shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The nipple swirl was enough for me. Oh, man, I ain't tasted my cum or now, nigga. You never tried your own? I ain't never tried mine either. You got to sample the work. No. I tried to eat from a white girl named Ginger in the eighth grade. She went to Workman Junior High. I went to Hutchinson Junior High me and my partner Montoya I snuck my mama car out when picked up Montoya Ginger was standing Lucretia how we snuck through the window I had been hearing googie and I'm old 19 20 year old nigga talk about eating the difference in 91 I put my mouth on that hairy That red meat

1:11:09my first time too my first time too nigga I tiptoe eating everybody yeah I nibble first I ain't just no nigga put my whole mouth on it let my face get wet I don't do none I don't do it I fuck like mister on the color purple I'm gonna watch the color purple for you the first pussy I ate tasted like shit Terrible. It tasted like a total pile of fish. Tangy? Yeah. Don't taste good? It was tangy. If somebody like tangy candy, salvo now or later, I like sushi. I was working at the grocery store, and the next day, I'm walking through the Mexican aisle, which had all kinds of weird, unfamiliar scents, the goya and the weird flavors and shit, and it just hit my nose, and it fucking reminded me of the vagina that I had eaten the night before.

1:11:56I'm like 16 in high school, and I immediately start gagging in my own mouth, because it was reminding me of that. Yeah, no, no. That turned me off to eat pussy for quite a while. I was a kid that smelled this food before he ate it. So, you know, I'm real particular about what I put my mouth on. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And they'll tell you, that's why you don't hear the now whole go make up with y 'all. He eat my pussy. He eat my ass. You ain't never heard that about me. Okay. Ever. And I ain't no big tongue kisser. Oh, yeah? Yeah. I love to make out. I'm a home run hitter, nigga. Barry Bunn. I don't run around.

1:12:25Yeah, Barry Bunn. You got to take some breaks and make out with her. You eat her pussy after you just fucked her? No. Oh. Oh, no. Mr. Manners over here. No, I thought that was foreplay. I didn't know it was afterplay. It was everything. I was taught different. Foreplay. You off that good Coke? We doing everything. Oh, I thought once you get hard, everything is about to wheel. Get on that lager. What you get out eating it? Other than her moaning and messing your face up. Nothing. It's a little interim, a little interlude. No, shit, no. No. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. um okay yeah white boy started that he's like sitting on it yeah yeah white boy started that yeah it started since the 93 once the once the gang bangers left california with the crack yeah once the gang bangers left california with the crack and brought that freaking shit that porn world didn't know nothing about that okay california is responsible for eating and gang banging and download gangsters in america i'll take it man well not the download gangsters probably the rest of it.

1:13:30That's where I started. Them niggas out here, yeah, with the porn world, with the Hollywood niggas. I think LA got the lowest percentage of down low gangsters of anywhere in America. Prison population too high. Oh, we ain't talking about prisons. No, no, no. They do come home. You do, don't they? Only here. As long as you stop right before you get out. You can't stop. Them niggas ain't stopping. You just can't cut that shit out. You're not addicted to it, right? Girl booty, boy booty. you're going to go get you one. I mean, hey. And if you don't win and earn half that, what make you stop? But would you sit down with Felice Johnson or is that too fucked up for your image?

1:14:07No, I sit down with Felice. Yeah, I sit down with Felice. I done talked to Felice before. Me and you might have to go meet up in Louisville. Yeah, I tried to challenge him to a boxing match. Ooh, wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Actually, that would be the crazy shit to be around him in person because I interviewed him over the camera, so I don't know how big he is. He's getting frail and old now. Yeah, yeah. He old, frail, and feeble. He probably still got that old man strength. But yeah, yeah, yeah. He ain't that same warrior that he would when he had them glasses on. He was doing that for survival back then.

1:14:36No, no, he wasn't. He had to take some booty to survive. No, listen. Ain't no nigga taking it for survival. Might be giving it up for survival, but ain't no nigga taking it to survive. Okay, but if you're a freaky-ass frog like Fleece Johnson, you got to take that booty to survive. He's not going to be able to just not take on ass. From what I heard, him telling the story, nigga took his first. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so most niggas who had it took start to take. Most kids who get molested end up molested. Most girls who got molested end up dating molesters. So that shit worked for whatever reason.

1:15:13That's fucked up. How are you feeling about the state of the Chud the Builder phenomenon? He's coming home. Somebody from the crypto world and made his bond. Okay, so his gambling sponsor is trying to put up the million dollars to get him out or whatever. I don't know. Maybe they only have to put up 100K, but that's their newest gambling. And it seems like that sponsor, Duel.com, who, I'm not going to lie, they were talking to me about potentially doing something together, but they're flexing on me that they sponsored Gypsy Crusader, a Nazi, and then they're trying to bail out Chud the Builder, the most famous racist of our time.

1:15:49Apparently, they like that kind of vibe. I was a supporter of Gypsy the Crusader. I was the only black in that entire building supporting him. shout out to gypsy uh this one thing i know i don't give a what you feel about gypsy or chud this is america right and america was built on racism trying to be built on socialism so we have us part of that there but this is capitalism but we still have racism and what chud is doing is not racism it's prejudice what is the difference explain the difference racism is an act of creating laws racist laws prejudice jim crow was laws racist laws judge not creating anything of racism to stop black people from doing anything he's doing what black people do walk around being obnoxious saying what you want to do to people that's how i started out why chug can't do it i'm chug doing nothing different than me okay but the the main thing that anybody cares about him doing is the fact that he's going up to black people call him the n-word racism is the belief that one racial group is inherently superior or inferior to another resulting in prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism.

1:16:56I can't imagine anything more blatantly racist than walking up to a black person and using a word that we all know is loaded with meaning that suggests that you are inferior because of the color of your skin. I've used it against Channel Mac. Y 'all didn't have a problem. I've used it against Aiden Ross. Y 'all didn't have a problem. Great. It carries no weight against a white guy or an Asian guy. What you mean? I use it. What you mean? It does nothing. You can call me that. It does nothing to me. I say it to you. We all know it's explosive. So black people are so weak that we have to say they're the only people who can't handle words.

1:17:24I mean, in the defense of black people, look how long it took before Chug got shot. It took months and dozens of black people. I ain't been shot yet. I've been worse. I done disrespected Jews and everybody. Everybody. So how can I do it and he can't? I've been doing it for seven years. Okay. Dead babies. Jews. I wish Asian babies got great, nigga. I said great, but I want to say because this is free speech. This is my mouth, my words. Who am I hurting? Can I call you a fucker? So Chud. You don't have a right to hurt somebody. Chud is of the same struggle as you. And black people, disrespected black women, calling them bitches.

1:18:09But now can't nobody call you a fucker? It's their word. So you and Chud are on the same mission? I'm with Chud. Wow. Fuck them niggas. They're chimping out, Chud. I've been trying to get a chip out. I've been trying to get wooded and chip out. What's the A-Trey gangster name that got killed? Lil Soty? I've been targeting niggas, hoping I can get him to chip out, either with my gun or with my mace. The same thing. I've been walking around doing this. I see it. You are quite similar to him, mission-wise, yeah. I'm with you, Chud. Free speech, baby. I'm with you. I can't wait to hug you, baby. Fuck these n****s.

1:18:51Fuck these n****s. They're chimping out. They're not acting like real humans. These are f***ing savages, Chubb. Me and you, we're proving this together. But look, so few black people were willing to do anything violent to him. It took months of him offending all these different black people. Why would they do anything violent to him? And nobody was actually doing anything to him. But they do something violent to each other every day. He finally f***ed with the wrong guy. He didn't f*** with the wrong guy. The guy ran up on him. He didn't shoot him. They were f***ing with Chubb when he came out of court.

1:19:15Right. They were f***ing with Chubb when he came out of court. And guess what? He stood on it, baby. He stood on it, said, you're not. He got a fan of it. He's one of the biggest names on social media now. And they finally found one black dude who was willing to attack him. Yeah. And his dumb ass shot himself in the leg. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, that's pretty funny, right? He shot who in the leg? Churis Churis Churis Churis Churis Churis? He shot himself in the leg, too. Why would you be in the tech? You're not playing for the tech. I bet won't nobody else try to attack him. King Von never shot himself in the leg.

1:19:43Well, King Von was running in the prison, playing like he was gay to go to PC to do something. That's even worse. They do that in Chicago. I better shoot myself in the leg than have to go play like I'm gay. I've been told that you can't do that in LA. It's dishonorable to like get yourself put up off a module. But in Chicago, you can do that. I shot myself in the leg too behind some niggas bothering me too, Chud. Right there. I shot myself too, Chud. I done maced plenty of niggas. I just, I beat three aggravated assaults with a deadly weapon, Chud, for these niggas f***ing me from online. I'm three, Chud.

1:20:16I'm three and oh, Chud! On these chimps! Because they're gonna chip out! Why? Nobody on earth, Chud, gets mad over words. Because they taught us in children, well, most of these chimps and monkeys wasn't taught, Chud. And these gorillas, as they call themselves. They wasn't taught that sticks and stones may break my bones, and words would never hurt me. So they grew up like their mothers, being emotionally responsive males. who will try to hurt somebody first with the disrespect of a business, but they'll kill each other, Chud, over the slightest disrespect. So I think you're doing us some justice.

1:20:57You're helping us take out our trash, and you're exposing the hypocrisy that anybody can disrespect American black people as long as you're not black. They'll kill another black person, but they won't kill me, Chud. I've been disrespecting these monkeys and these chimps forever. I'm going to find the lowlife, Chud. I just don't pick out just any old black. I go find the low life of the black society and I tell them, come on, you. I'll put your ass in jail. I'll shoot your armature in the name of. I can say what the I want to say. And if you try to attack me, I'm going to do what Chud did. OK, but isn't that part of the problem here is that Chud is targeting any old black person and you have been targeting like rappers that you have actual beef with?

1:21:37Well, I target any old Asian people. I made Houston news. I made Houston, Texas I made national news Because I just targeted some old Asian people I got into it with China Mac But I just went and targeted the whole Asian community And nobody seemed to have a problem with it They found it funny It went viral And I made hundreds of thousands of dollars off of it So what the fuck is Chud doing wrong? But you got negative repercussions as well, right? What? I just lost a few shows Right I just lost, shot the gun at a few niggas But guess what? That builds my credibility my stature i got i beat them three children guess what you're gonna beat this too but they'll attack you outside the courtroom you get the right lawyers and you got to still remember you have white privilege and you still got the white court system on your side chud so we can't lose buddy right right just have a problem in court not us so you think that he's gonna beat i know for a fact he's gonna beat it really yeah i know for like most people just beat it and Bill Coddman or Killian did it, didn't.

1:22:40This is the white man laying. You know that. Come on. That's why I got with you. I got to be my white buddy. What the fuck is that? This is white man laying. I'm with, man. Harvey Weinstein. Man, the fuck are you talking about? The niggas are always making children coming home. Don't worry about it. All right. What makes you so confident? Look at the kid that killed the health worker guy. Look how much favor the court is giving. Luigi. Oh, man, you've never seen such a big case where they're saying, hey, the police f***ed up in legal search of disease. Y 'all cannot use the most critical evidence to free this kid.

1:23:13Oh, it seems like they really, really f***ed up, right? No, no, it seems like they're really giving this white kid the benefit of the doubt. They don't give nobody else but white people to benefit the doubt. But you know what they both have in common? What? They're hot. Luigi and Chud, both good-looking guys. Chud's a funny-looking motherfucker. He's got that mustache and shit, but I mean, I feel like... That is a honky-tonk white. That's a honky-tonk white. He's decent to look at. That's that honky... That's that honky's mustache. See, I love Chud. He don't remind me of a white boy. He reminds me of a honky from the old days.

1:23:41How do I become a honky? Man, you a pink toe. You a pink toe. You ain't honky. You ain't no real wood. You ain't a real wood. No, you're right. You like n**** too much. Yeah, I know. Yeah, see, me and you buds. Me and Chud will be neighbors. Not buds, but neighbors. What's going on, neighbor? Like Obama, white granddaddy, and his black granddaddy that used to argue about politics and racism. You think Chud would be able to live in the same neighborhood as you? I would be in Chud's neighborhood. No, no, no. Oh, you're moving to his neighborhood. I ain't never lived in an all-black community. Never lived in my life.

1:24:09Right. Well, how does it change how you view Chud if he was, in fact, a f***ing man and dressing up as a woman and all these trans accusations? Man, they said Eddie Murphy got caught with a trans. You did, right? They said Mace the Rapper got caught with a trans. They said, I can go all down the list. All these rappers got caught with a trans. What's the boy named Bobby? Slow down. Bobby, all these niggas been caught with, Thug them done been caught with trans. Woody said, yeah, Woody said him and the boy that shot up the bus fucked the transvestite. Woody made a whole shit. So all these niggas done been with him.

1:24:45All these niggas have been known to with the boys. So if Thug can do it, Chug can do it. No, no, no, no, no. It don't matter what you do with your niggas. If we do business together, we neighbors, or I have an admiration for you. It don't matter what you do, because niggas some honorable gay guys. Right. There's some real n****s and you can't f*** with them. Chuck one of them. And who curled that the white boy get his ass played in? I'm sure your ass done been played in a few times. Not really. Never? I sampled it one time. That's what I'm talking about. See, white boys, you can't, see the white boy.

1:25:16When I was 16, I put a finger in there real quick in the shower. A little bit of soap. Haven't touched it since. Say, see the white boy, this is why he can conquer the world. He's adventurous. He go places other people would dare not to go. That's right. So you can't fault a white boy that's being adventurous. Yeah. So no, man, it's a whole bunch of these niggas like to lay on their backs, put the heels of their feet to their head and let that girl go in there. It does not make you gay because you get pegged. Man, it's a picture of Goye-Yoh hanging upside down with that whole wide open. And I don't think that makes him gay.

1:25:49I didn't say that. I'm just saying. Curious. You're adventurous. Sure, adventurous. Yeah, some people call it curious, but you're adventurous to go where people don't have to go. Having a good time. So whether Chud does that or not, it don't mean nothing. When we watch, when we hear black people say all the time, white men can't ever call me a n***a. We hear people all the time, drop your address, drop your load. It's the reason why George Zimmerman and every other black police officer, whoever done something to us, can walk the streets and have no fear. Because black people do not have a mechanism in their head to have retribution for other people.

1:26:26whatever they done to us in slavery that he'll switch to make us look at each other and say get that nigga and then when y 'all do something have mercy and compassion and i'm gonna punch you because for the disrespect if chubb was black he would have been dead if he just walked up to black he would have been dead he would have been maimed and killed like you see them do or that old white man in the streets one time in new york so you think a black streamer who is going around in white neighborhoods talking shit to white. Oh, so you're saying talking shit to black people. Yeah. Calling them racist things.

1:27:00Yeah. There's no way a black streamer in 2026, other than Charleston White, will go around in America saying shit to crazy, saying something crazy to white people. I'm about the only nigga that'll do it. That's interesting. And I don't want to lose money. And I don't want to make my white friend mad because why? They're my closest allies on earth. Right. Not the Mexican. not the Chinese not the North Korean You'd be getting money with the whites The one I went to school with and I understand their language Okay And we can talk and we got an understanding Why? We got the same rights Why? You gave them to me Uh-huh You gave them to me Thank you I wasn't there It was many years before I was born Same thing I'm talking to the spirit of your ancestors Okay, thank you That was my ancestors talking to your ancestors Well, I would like to speak to your ancestors You talking to them You talking to them when you put us here That whole slavery thing super fucked up You just been talking to the mother now Not talking to the in the house Nat Turner was in the house first and Learn how to talk and speak to come out here and talk to the dumb slave to even tell you how to revoke So I'm a house and why I gave it feel that head over there Finn Why is it why is field on the head spelled with a pH?

1:28:18Oh well, so it don't offend the politically correct. Oh, really? Man, you can't walk into work and have a real field. They're going to fight you off the job. Interesting. Why did you post a photo with QCP yesterday? What's your relationship with them? Me and QCP have been pretty tight for like three years. Really? Yeah, you've been tight for like three years. I would think there's a lot of people that he's tight with that would not fuck with you. That's interesting. He's an almost$100 millionaire. Why would he disassociate himself when him, Corey Gamble, a lot of billion and millionaires homies.

1:28:52They got a group chat where they share my videos amongst each other. That's how he and I met. Really? Yeah. Wow. They think I'm very intellectual. And he done paid me a couple times to do some events in Atlanta. A very professional upstanding businessman. Compare that to somebody like Big Bank. I'm assuming he's not really like Big Bank or Real Street nigga. But you guys were going to be doing a podcast at one point. Yeah, we still are. Now it's lined up again? You know, I think I didn't cancel it. Oh, he just didn't pay for the flight and I didn't have time to go fly. But he missed a great opportunity.

1:29:26And so does QCP ever tell you like, hey, stop saying things about my close friends, my political. He know I'm a big fan. He know I'm I want a little baby. Biggest fan. Right. Everybody know that. Oh, but ain't nobody off limits when it comes to conversation in the truth or whatever jokes or anything. So, nah,

1:29:47he ain't never said nothing. The admiration. Yeah, the admiration for the things that he heard me say. And plus, you know, he done talked to the old man Pops. I done put him on the phone with the old nigga. They admire my lineage, that old man. Yeah, so I done talked to Corey Gamble. Me and Kanye used to go back. Me and Kanye spent years, a whole year, I don't know what part of the world he was on. I mean, we spend still almost all night long writing paragraphs or sharing spiritual ideology with each other. A lot of people like to use QCP as an example of how a lot of rappers in the game like Boosie are hypocrites because they'll go so hard on somebody like 6ix9ine and then when QCP gets allegedly exposed for being a snitch or having cooperated with police in the past, they don't really have any oxygen for that.

1:30:33Do you think that that is an accurate critique? Well, it's an accurate critique because he really didn't snitch. How so? who's proved the paperwork to say he's done it. It's speculation. They do have paperwork, don't they? Well, that's why I say it. Everybody's torn. When you got paperwork, nobody's torn. When you got real paperwork, nobody's torn. I hadn't really seen the discussion. I remember it hit like maybe three years ago. But from what I understood, he was more of a witness than a participant in the crime. I won't rehash the details of this. But let me just say, I had to think about what you asked me.

1:31:10Okay. He have called me and asked me to stop saying something about somebody. Okay. When that little girl from Fort Worth, Enchanting died. Right. I was going in on Gucci. Who was signed to Gucci, right? Yeah. Yeah. I was going in on that. And he sent me a message. And then I called him. And he told me what all Gucci done done and tried to do, tried to put him in rehab. I ain't said nothing about Gucci since. and then I came back and done a State Chief interview and told I said what somebody told me close to him said and I never said his name but yeah so I never said nobody himself you haven't said anything about Gucci even given what went down with him and Pooh Shiesty I have but not in a bad manner yeah Gucci did I called him RD okay that's RD now Roderick Davis yeah yeah because Gucci would have never told nothing right yeah yeah yeah Gucci would have went to Sippin back to Sippin Serve and put them top goals in his mouth, took them vanules out.

1:32:12And yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no. It is crazy that if he were to become intoxicated again, if he were to go back to drinking lean, if he were to be like outside in the streets, pulling up on people, do all these things that are like really, really bad for his life and for his likelihood of living a long life, that I feel like hip hop would instantly fall in love with him again and wouldn't give a about the snitching shit. He'll probably love crash outs. Yeah. They love crash outs. Yeah. Oh. They resent him because they stopped giving him good content by becoming a sober person with a mature life.

1:32:49Man, all your homeboy be mad at you when you get a good bitch. Yeah. And she take you in. You seem like you done changed. Oh man, she a bitch done changed. Oh, man, granddaddy and them had that. I get it. My fans were bummed when I got a girlfriend back in the day. Man, just like on Safran and son. Woodrow got Esther. That's the game, niggas. Yeah, but yeah, that's the game, man. All your partners and everybody be mad at you when you were the street nigga and you go in the house and kick your feet up and pick your toes with the bitch. They want to crash out. They want to crash out. Hip hop is looking for a next mother to be killed.

1:33:27And then homies like the toxic lovers. They good when it's good. But if it's good for too long, they need something stimulating. And what they gonna do? Somebody starts an argument or a fight. Why? To make up. That's the thrill and the feels of this shit. And that's what hip hop been giving us for damn near 40 years. Yeah. So now, hip hop don't have no more dancing like Kid and Play that can give us something else to look at. Ain't no more LL Cool J that's talking I need love. and ain't no more Rod Wade he's sad everybody's sad in pain or haunting so I just yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I'm stuck on Lil Baby and Finesse 2 time what about the music?

1:34:15yeah I'm stuck on Lil Baby and Finesse 2 time you don't feel like Lil Baby kind of lost it at a certain point? no he talking money talk yeah yeah he talking money talk and he sneaking and f***ing this nigga hole yeah yeah he talking money player talk we what the player do with the money uh make all the pretty boys upset uh because they been cute all they life in the hole and now the funny with the big nose and the bucked out eyes funny looking ugly lip coming through with the money on the hole and he a pervert they say boy alone uh yeah yeah that's everybody hate that kind of nigger everybody hate that kind of you think little baby's a pervert because he's too long oh yeah i done some business with some if he wanted to come up with a pill, they say, to try to stop you from jacking off.

1:34:58They said, that boy, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Al talked about this too. That's why they said it. Did I get that from you or did you talk about that? No, no, I didn't get that from me. I'm just repeating what I got from a reliable source. He wanted to create a... And I heard more. He's f***ing in the hole. But all the... Listen. I don't think there's a big market in hip-hop in particular for men who have a problem where they jerk off to a pill. Most don't want to stop jerking off. A pill. Most don't want to stop jerking off. Most n**** don't want to stop. That's a childhood perversion. Yeah, it's harmless for most of us.

1:35:28Yeah, yeah, that's a childhood perversion. Yeah, yeah, I'm jacking off with a woman. Yeah, I ain't by myself. You feel guilty by yourself. I mean, look how popular the pills are. Those are pills that make you f*** more or jerk off more. Like, what is the market for the antidote to that that makes you so you don't get a boner? Like, this just doesn't seem like there's a market out there for that. Like, he must have a real problem. I tell you, man, say, yeah, how would they say? I've never experienced that, and I don't think anybody I know has ever experienced that. Me neither. Yeah. Well, man, I done seen them with them uncles when we used to play them games and go hang out in a trap, them uncles coming home from prison and them being in a room with them VCRs and them game tapes.

1:36:11Say, man, what you looking at doing, man? They been at all day. Man, that, she ain't nobody not with her. She is F2BJ, man. Say, man, you can't come home. You can't. So listen, it's in prison, homie, that every time a fine woman come to work, they run to the door and jack out. And when she get to the window and make eye contact, he might be hanging upside down in the cell, breezed up. Man, it may be jack-off monsters. Yeah. You can't just mentally flip a switch. If that gets you through the day, I'll take that over you f***ing men in the ass. or I'd rather you play Muslim boy. Get with them Agbat.

1:36:50Because if Agbat and them catch you doing that, they're going to kick you in your hand. I feel like it's going to scratch a different itch, right? Man, if Brother Rodney catch you in that cell all day doing that one, they're going to kick your ass in the name of Ash Allah. How did you feel seeing 6ix9ine kind of put on a clinic in front of Big Bank and really corner him and trap him and put him in a position where he looked kind of, you know, he looked weird because he wasn't willing to say the truth about his friends. it's a it's a guy on iHeart named loon he did the same he did the same shit it's a bank to me with thug now i always trying to adjust for the rapper right you're so real you ain't real with oh he he did what bank did he did what bank did i made him look stupid right because because now six nine is kind of like a student of you in a way in terms of going on podcasts with street dudes and telling them how hypocritical so so soon i watched it i immediately called bank and said, boy, he destroyed you.

1:37:43I said, Banks, you were set up to lose. How you going to his habitat? You're supposed to bring him over to your habitat. You went in his habitat in his house with that big old Hollywood set up like stage as a street. I said, you went as a street real. He showed up as an entertainer with facts. you showed up as a real street you ain't no street no more but because you once was in the streets you still have some residue and he's friends with all these people that six nine's attacking you still have because of that you have that residue yeah you have that's why you feel bad about having to call the police even to defy submission at this age right right i told him you showed up as a real n***er and he showed up as an entertainer with facts, a big old screen to stop and point at.

1:38:41Yeah. That helped. Not only did that help. It's one thing to pull up like a little laptop or something. The huge screen. I mean, they picked him apart. Let me just finish this. Not only that, the color scheme. See, psychological, the color scheme. You up here as a real nigga, almost on a Nickelodeon-like setup. Colorful stage. The chair you sitting in got you looking this small, so you look a little psychological. The camera setting had you slanted, so you look vulnerable. 6 '9", and you stay relaxed at the back, right? 69 kept standing to the front of the chair and it made him look like a giant every time he sat up.

1:39:32So every theatrics was a point and I'm sitting there watching that shit saying oh man they're destroying my boy. And the more I watched it and the more he couldn't just say yeah you right. Right. When he when he entered that interview I called him and said homie that Mexican y 'all got a problem with just murdered the hip-hop street culture. He just destroyed. You can't ever talk street again. Your lyrics would never be this effective no more. He alone with his truth and facts and his genius way of entertaining the masses without music. without music. He used voice in fluctuation. So homie, he picked him.

1:40:23I said, oh, this was a masterpiece. So walk, shit, dash. Oh, that's beautiful. He picks one funny thing and he says it over and over and over like a hook. Repetition. Like a hook on a song, yeah. Repetition. Yeah. So that's going to become a slogan. That's going to become a mantra for today's youth going forward. It wasn't that direct, but it kind of had the effect of making Big Bank look like he wasn't really with the shit because he's saying something so aggressive in front of him over and over and big bank's not going to crash but it makes him look kind of strange no more yeah you know what i told big banks almost a year ago i said homie you can't straddle the fence you're either media journalist or real you cannot come over here inside with your friends right and if i come over here and say the truth as a journalist you have to remain neutral you can't show that you for this you can't even really give your personal thought if you're a media guy so when you come over here and you base your platform off your friends street codes and principles you just put yourself in a in a either in the box or you have a glass ceiling because when somebody not street come over here you can't stand with them right if they don't pacify street people so what i said hey banks man we got to do one and so what i told banks here I said, me and you got to sit down and have a natural talk, homie, like me.

1:41:47No theatrics. I ain't coming with no trolling. And then me, you, and Ray Daniels need to sit down. I said, because Ray Daniels is the voice, homie. Shout out Ray. I said, me, you, and Ray Daniels. He said, man, I'm going to put it together. Schedule-wise, me and my agent be mad at them, because I'll stop what I'm doing and fly somewhere. And that's what I did. She was like, man, this ain't even on schedule. So I said, hey, just pay for the airline ticket. So this is what I'm telling the black platform like banks and revolt. I'm saying, homie, listen. Y 'all can only go so far and I wouldn't get nobody nothing.

1:42:22And y 'all make all the money. Y 'all don't want to pay for flights, no rooms, no nothing. And y 'all would revolt TV. Why wouldn't I keep going over here with no jumping flag? Them niggas, they paying me what I'm asking is my value. And y 'all wouldn't even book me a flight. Yeah, the game has changed. Y 'all wouldn't even book me a flight. People want to get compensated. And y 'all are monetized, going to make, there's going to be a wealth of you when me and you sit down and talk to you. And I'm doing it for free when I normally charge a fee. And I'm going to come back and do it again, and we might can start some real conversations.

1:42:52So I was trying to put something in place for some future topics. But I can't give it all the way to y 'all, man. I put the idea out there. And I'm doing this to help clean you up. Because right now, it's hard for you to even come back and speak again about anything street. You have to damn near turn into a Wayne Brady. You think it's going to be tough for Bank going forward? Yeah. To talk street? I got word on the streets is that Bank's got some insanely huge shit coming up. Hey, listen to me. Word on the street is nothing. Why? Because Atlanta don't have a big media outlet to be insane. He's the guy now, right?

1:43:25He's small, though. I ain't seen him touch a million views since me or Woody. I mean, thug. He ain't touch the hit. I call that. The 6ix9ine thing, for better or for worse? I call that. I ain't say I call that, but that ain't do no bunch of nothing without 6ix9ine. So what I'm saying is no street podcast that Uphold really has numbers like that. But do you notice how it feels like the industry... Atlanta dead. The industry always has a new street podcaster that they're trying to push. I'm not saying that there's anything inorganic about what Big Bank has been building, but it feels like for a while they were trying to say Matt Hoffa was going to be the next big podcaster.

1:44:01Destroyed him. They tried to say Loon was going to be the next big podcaster. it feels like they're always trying because they they hate the fact that white boys and regular ass people end up being the biggest voices in the culture right because there are more law abiding citizens of people who think right rather than people who want to do and a civilian can have a conversation about the gangsters but the gangsters for the most part can't really tell you anything of value about civilians no oh academics can tell you about the gangster shit and normal people shit, but the mega gangster dude don't really understand normal people.

1:44:35So when I look at everybody in Atlanta, I don't know if I've been on all their platforms, none of them is emerging and none of them is really growing in followers and influence outside of the young lady live with Carisha. The rest of them have been stagnant. When you look at their numbers, they don't have superseding numbers. When you look at their engagements, when you look at on tiktok you don't see none of unless they got a big name like me 69 they don't have viral clips going around i've been studying atlanta they're trying to go breathe life in atlanta because atlanta have a street roof that sits over their head they're stuck there they're stuck in quicksand when you look at the rappers ain't nobody flourishing in nothing but probably real estate and going to work but when you look into the entertainment world outside of belly gang cushions yk knees atlanta is not the outside of atlanta nobody's in from atlanta getting interviewed on no major platform nobody's from atlanta getting hit on streaming when kai took streaming there it was so dead he had to leave they had to black stream in the world it couldn't be done with it you know who got it is that fat smack they ain't got nothing he got cardi on that that's about he's about to be huge so they don't have nothing no i'm just saying he's so but him But outside Atlanta was a Mecca.

1:45:55Yeah, it was a Mecca what killed it street codes and street Shooting people straight ordering murder Street who became rappers who started ordering murders acting like street right before then it was rapping rapping street All of them It was rapping rapping street. Yeah, except uh shout it low Think about like throughout the 90s and the 2000s how the shit that would impress us like 50 Cent we thought was the craziest shit ever because he got shot a couple times. Nine times, yeah. Nobody gives a f*** if you got shot nine times anymore. You got to kill nine people. You got to kill or you got to die.

1:46:40Yeah. If you ain't killed or died, we don't give a... Well, now if you get shot like somebody... What's the NBA young nigga got shot in the head? Ben 10? Or... No, no. The other. He ended up preaching to getting his life saved. Oh, it's a bunch of these little niggas that got shot and came back to live and because they didn't die, there ain't nothing. Yeah. So I'm saying at this age, shouldn't this shit go back to being entertainment? Because at one point in time, rapping was pretty good when they had a bunch of studio gangsters. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm with you.

1:47:16Let's find us some R &B singles or go to the country. Yeah, I want to start like a little like a acapella like boys group. Get a bunch of gang members, but get them to wear suits and then they can all kind of snap their fingers and harmonize. Why gang members, my nigga? Why gang members? Why we can't even get a bunch of nerds? They don't have to be from gangs. They're going to be a little street though. They got to have some edge. So another Backstreet Boys kind of group. Yeah, but we're going to find like the best ones in the whole... Actually, really, I shouldn't be saying this. This is a great idea.

1:47:42Holy shit. Yeah, damn sure. I'm just kind of freestyling, but this is a great idea. A gang member boy group. Man, them niggas go... You gotta go K-pop. Man, you draw... So their audience comes with a risk... No, okay. None of them are from the same city. You don't gotta worry about putting the crip and the blood together because we got a New York guy, a Cali guy, a Texas guy. I'm gonna tell you something. It's gonna get complicated though. I'm gonna tell you something what I once heard a nigga say in the hood. You can take a nigga after hood, but you can't take the hood after nigga. So when you go get them from different cities, they come with homeboys and friends that go beef with each other because they're from different cities.

1:48:22But if you go get a kid that's not attached to anything risky, why do we need at-risk kids? Why do we need at-risk kids? Because the culture demands some level of risk and edge to anyone that we're going to be interested in. Wrong way, he's going to have no risk of edge. Showed up fat, sang, and sad. He shot at his girlfriend recently. That was recently, but before it became big when he showed up fat and sad, he didn't have an edge. But you still had to kind of believe that he had been through a bunch of shit. No, he was sad. He didn't have to prove nothing. But he was sad about how much crazy shit he had done in the streets, right?

1:48:53Well, he was sad in the fridge by his friends down in this one. So when you're sad, you don't have to prove it. It's when you're bad, you have to prove it acting mad. Yeah, yeah. Damn. So now, man, let's go get some clean-cut niggas like you. Man, you got some nieces and some nephews that can sing and tap dance? Mm-hmm. No. And you might can poop with a nigga gal that can shake her ass? I understand like street culture more than I understand like whatever other culture like a bunch of white kids snapping their fingers together would appeal to. As long as you've been around, you don't know how to make one of them penitentiary spreads.

1:49:24So don't tell me you understand street culture. Luckily, I've avoided that. You ain't mean, no, man. I don't want to go to jail. But you say you understand street culture. Well, I understand a little bit. Nah, you don't understand it. I'm not saying I understand it the whole way. You know the players, Adam. And you know the big players. They're telling you all the highlights and the gruesomes. right you don't know them niggas in the middle i'm taking we going on me and you going on podcast tour taking you to the middle we got it yeah yeah we're going to the middle of america man we're going to eat it in all them old black places and that's something that i kind of like envy about you is that you got famous and just immediately got on the road started seeing america tapping in with the people every every every possible way whereas for me it's like i blew up and it immediately became clear to me that traveling wasn't really going to be the thing because I have to sit in the office and do podcasts all day and you can't trust these to run the ship they're gonna run it down yeah I mean a little bit of that you already knew that and and you you got something to hold the film over here so you can't exactly and every week of my life it's just I look at the schedule and it's just madness like I just have so much shit that I got to do and so it's like I don't travel but I want to I want to like start squeezing it in just doing it anyway.

1:50:36Yeah, you know why I damn near turned down the first show? Why? When I said I would go do it. A fair show? You remember the first show when I was like, no, man, technically I ain't gonna do it. Because I got to be honest. Why? When you said you got to go and rush me off the phone to go shoot a porn scene. Oh, I envied you. Oh, yeah. Well, you just thought that that seemed like a cooler way of life. Yeah, yeah. Me and my friend hang up on me. I got to go shoot a porn scene. Rush me off the phone. I mean, that's that's my life. You know, sometimes I got to do porn. I know it is. But I don't want to do it, but I said, well, that's a hell of a life to live.

1:51:09That's like the one thing that rich and famous people will talk to me about, and they will just be in disbelief, and they just have to ask me about every element of it because they just can't wrap their head around it. Yeah, say, get away from him. I tell my wife, get away from that nigga over there and talk about that porn shit. Man, sit down somewhere. Yeah, just try to ease in on that shit. Definitely. So, okay, this is something I got to ask you about. You're a friend of 607 Unc. Yeah. And I'm sure that you've seen the situation unfolding in which Skinny from the Nine has been accused by Jalise of taking advantage of her while she was loaded, drunk as hell.

1:51:44She's claiming that Skinny from the Nine basically had sex with her when she wasn't able to consent. And this is just looking like a crazy-ass scandal as far as the 607 Unk universe goes. Oh, no, I ain't seen it. Oh, you didn't see that? Wow, I'm breaking this. Here we go. Oh. it's obviously just to add more context it's hit different because of the fact that everybody knows to be such a terrible drunk my first thought as you were saying that i don't know nothing about this shit uh that's a whole line or that's a bitch mad about something why any grown bitch that's running to the internet to say that her pussy been tampered with and she still got dna own a pussy and in a pussy and these niggas got action and money i'm running to the police i call bullshit that's why i call bullshit on the diddy shit because ain't now time have cassie went to the police if a do something to you much as women put in jail for just threatening them and fighting up the house take your pussy and you drunk and you can remember he did it i call bullshit if you ain't hit 9-1-1 right but she claims that she went and tried to get a kid and that they basically told her that they couldn't do it because i don't know they lying she lying man if you call 9-1-1 said i was raped her last night they showing up if they see a black and ugly like uh 607 monk they heat somebody but nobody's saying that on anybody for the record if you call the police and say i was raped here last night don't nobody give you an explanation they're sending somebody out.

1:53:19Yeah. Man, I done called the police for some bullshit and they done showed up. Her explanation of the whole kit thing left a lot to be desired in a lot of people's minds. It kind of felt like she was not necessarily being real. You don't need a kit. You say I've been raped, right? They going over there. Was you over here last night? Yeah, they were here. Do y 'all have footage? Can we get the footage? This is a rape scene now. Man, that bitch, man, that's content. She's trying to create some new content for it's no different homie than a little girl saying Adrian Brown and them touched her and now I'm back over here in the mix I mean the weird the weird thing about that with her with Jaleese is that it's it's hard to decipher what her what her motive yeah yeah for sure because okay she remember he got cameras all over his house so they got video footage of him so hold on yeah that yeah that must have been good the skinny from the nine dick I don't know man listen if bitch getting drunk and she can remember normally you vaguely remember she remember details right yeah yeah when we watch the video you can kind of see him like her going over giving him a kiss on the forehead and shit you know how them hoes play drunk yeah so they can be extra freaky so you think she came up with this after the fact is more likely so do you look down on Jaleese by default like is she already somebody that is kind of on your shit list of people that you don't necessarily trust i don't know maybe oh okay i figured you had spent time around her no i don't know oh okay no uh no me and me and me do business right we don't just hang we real business partners that become a friend uh i don't hang with my my partner friends they're his friends uh but this is what i'm saying uh she's been in the mix around a bunch of niggas on podcast doing this at this house that house uh that's that's the household that go from house to house that is somehow she have a problem till she get to the next house to a nigga boyfriend or wife up right yeah like the cow chopping nigga who ain't got nowhere to stay eventually find somewhere to stay laying on the couch cleaning up so now uh i call it uh because in today's time homie uh in the me too movement ain't ain't too many women withholding no no no drunk and she can recall it i mean the weird thing about it is that there's mad different examples of her saying basically that it wasn't but saying that she felt like it was sexual assault because she was too fucked up to be able to consent and then when she talks to people on the phone from 9-1-1 or whatever kind of police services she's communicating with they're basically like no that's rape and she seemed kind of uncomfortable with the idea of it being called rape even though it's like you're saying he had sex with you that is the technical definition of right yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah uh now oh you can't you can't come get a p***y away you showed up you showed up getting drunk with consent you showed up getting drunk with consent we walk in the house all day chilling with consent we drinking, we touching on each other, we laughing we get in the bed with consent we touching we half naked when did we ask each other for consent when you ask me for consent right so at some point we both is intoxicated new breed right but you for sure in your life have had times where you're having sex with some or you're about to have sex with someone you're on a date whatever and then you kind of realize at a certain point like they're too loaded like we should not have sex uh i don't with dead bitches man i ain't with no drunk bitch man i mean oh i ain't that kind of nigga my nigga i mean i mean i like to talk so a drunk man i mean i like to talk right So the nigga with the horned dog spirit, he'll fuck the drunk dead fish.

1:57:11I like my fish flopping out of water. Okay. Talking, you know, ooh, papi, ooh, you know what I mean? Nah, bitch, you can't beat her dead. Metaphorically speaking, though, you wouldn't actually have sex with a fish. A mermaid. Oh. Yeah, yeah, let me run up on a rock and I kept one of them pretty-ass mermaids flapping with that mermaid tail. I won't find that fish hole. My kid is obsessed with mermaids. Yeah, I can find that fish hole. kind of forced you at a certain point to think like, am I attracted to this mermaid? Yeah, nigga, I was attracted to the one in the movie as a kid. They look so good from the waist up, you know?

1:57:42That's what DDG got going on is that he impregnated the mermaid. Man, I was attracted to the blonde hair mermaid that they been showing me she's out of the boy. You can't make her black now. No, red. Ariel. She had red hair. I don't want her. I want the Hitler. Oh, there's another mermaid? The red, the blonde hair from the 80s. I don't even know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who? What's her name? Tom Hanks-Slay. Yeah, Tom Hanks-Slay. Oh, okay. Yeah, that white girl. Okay, I like that. All right. Okay, so the Fulio killers, how'd you feel seeing them crying in the courtroom? I'm highly disappointed. I'm highly disappointed in yellow niggas, high yellow niggas with good hair with waves in their motherfucking head.

1:58:22You was more deadly than anybody. the good homeboy you come from the home you done went over here with niggas uglier than Kodak Black Julio Fulio was an uglier nigga to be beefing with see how dangerous he was yelling this boy here the boy Marcus was my nigga see Marcus had more of a reason to kill they killed his cousin your cousin usually like your brothers your mama and his mama's sisters You and your grandmama Same grandmama So That nigga in the interview Told the police Julio Fulio's song Killed my grandmama So I can see him doing this But good her Yellow boy And the rest of The little That boy that they say Couldn't read Till he was You still can't read From the first grade With the You know Just talking God talk I call bullshit Y 'all ain't been in there Long enough to be talking My lord Quote them god damn scriptures in court.

1:59:24These boys playing. They should have got the devil. Yeah, I mean, that's what they do. They ain't been there long enough. You get into that situation and you have to pull the God card so you can try to get some sympathy, right? My brother spent 31 years in prison. I ain't never heard that talk to that God talk. Really? When they gave my brother his time, he jumped up and flipped the table over. Jumped up and flipped the table over. They tried to come get him. He tried to grab a bailiff gun. I understand how that's kind of gangster, but it also sounds really psychotic. Well, they gave you 99 years.

1:59:50You might as well just hell you crying for why we hold on hold on i'm like that prosecutor you wasn't crying when you walked to the car with that ak smoking was you right what about when you were wiping down the prince you wasn't crying in it's kind of hard to have sympathy for him when you're seeing them doing that shit uh i don't have sympathy for him when they crying right boy you got to get ready to fight because somebody want to you this ain't the time to cry and come to the lord you get to the Lord 15 years on down the road. Boy, you don't need no Lord right now. You need a seven punch combo.

2:00:22Put on a little bit more weight. Get them motherfucking waves off your hair. Boy, them waves on the hair, they're going to be like a wig. Damn, they go bald. Man, I don't want to hear that shit about the Lord. Fuck the Lord. Y 'all done killed the man. Go on down there and run the cell block. Like that big nigga was who was laughing. man bitch ass nigga bitch ass I was trying to act like that until I saw my mama crying I was crying like a mama I'm sorry but I ain't doing it mama I ain't doing it I was telling like a mama when my mama came in crying I tried to play like I was tough but oh this will get me about these you didn't even left the county jail yet I don't know nothing got saved in the county they're just everything i know called a murder case at a young age did not get a life to the law at a young age them went down there rocking and rolling right because that's how i know these ain't with that that's why that's why i pick on these homie that's why when i realize all i have to do is say hey california i call the police on you crippled Mm.

2:01:40And when I realized after two years that nobody from the Crips and the Blues, nobody from Nipsey Hussle fans, King Von, DMX, or what's the one guy stabbed in the neck, Drake the Rule, I done disrespect all these n****s. Nobody have done anything. Not that I'm big and bad. Why? What they all say? He gonna call the police? What? That's my greatest protection. That you know I'll call the police and you won't hit me? I've been walking around this motherfucker like I can't be touched Like every other white law-abiding American and citizen I'll call the police on you Let me get what? So I remember gangsters didn't give a damn about the police I watched a movie And the reason we have domestic violent laws today Because there was a man one time that beat a woman so bad He did it in front of police Could nobody stop he did it in front of police I seen niggas rob a bank niggas shoot it out with the police When did niggas Who kill go to jail Not Want to go to jail Cause I thought I done heard niggas say I done 10 years on my dick head I heard you niggas say that But when it's time to go Nobody wants to go but the real street Like Poo Shites did It's about principles when you're in the streets It ain't about consequences And repercussions It's my principle of the matter So I started realizing That all this shit is bullshit So I started telling children Tell you ain't nobody Everybody tell you So I started breaking this shit down I'll be the first niche They tricked me y 'all as a little boy So I started hating these Playing like they really Can go do a life sentence today And they woke up broke And they just told their daughter They fit to go to the store You just told your daughter You go pick up today But you want me to believe You go go do something to me And do 30 years I got a gun a mace in 9-1-1 and I can run fast.

2:03:39How you gonna beat me? You got one weapon you don't want to kill how you gonna limit me to your rules and lose I call the police How you gonna beat me? I will fight. I got a gun that can shoot legally I got mace and I call the police. You just leave me alone and come play for so when I started realizing that homie Oh, I'd rather be over here with you Adam. Yeah laughing and making mockery getting content. Yeah I'm not trying to make a mockery of anybody, but I'd probably rather hang out with you. But, you know, people say you do, but I don't think you do. But I would. I do. I make mockery of this shit.

2:04:12I can't wait till a gang member some some die. As a matter of fact, that white boy who was on her from Fort Worth. I don't know him and he don't know me. Oh, Red Dog. I don't know that Pecklewood and he don't know me. I do like that guy. I don't like him. His son just died. His son just got killed in Fort Worth. your son bitch that's why he got killed he had a lot of negative things to say about you right i don't even know him i don't know that white boy never met him i seen him i called joe blow and i can call him right now i can call the biggest blood in the city from trent to joe blow nobody knows him but the dope fiend that's a dope fiend white boy and no no he's ignorant man so he don't speak out of understanding never have you ever seen that he's an ignorant man where's he done ever like You got popular off the people and left them behind.

2:05:02And that's the truth. When you get popular off the people that put you in that position, at least have enough respect for them to push for them. You understand? In a way. And he's left everybody behind. He's a real hoe in my book. You know what I mean? I wish I could fight him, man. I know that that'll never happen, that little weenie. That would not go over too well, I don't think, yeah. Yeah, I would love to take about 50 years of aggression out on him. In Texas, they f***ing white boys like him. Tell me what prison he got f***ed in to get put down. He didn't put down in the streets. He said he did.

2:05:39What? I got the phone. I can call right now. That b***h ain't get put down in the street by who? Joe Blow, Trent who? Some other Bloods, I assume. Ain't no other Bloods. What said he that was? Piru's. That's Trent and Joe Blow now. I forget what hoodies from. That's Trent and Joe Blow now. Man, that white boy don't even know me. To be up for talking like he know me. But he said that you talk shit about his dead homies. I don't. I talk about all them blood ass. Peewee got killed. I disrespected Peewee and went to them hood. And did nobody do nothing. That's when I was in that green court. And y 'all seen them around me with gun.

2:06:12I ditched that Peewee. Said fuck that bitch ass. I done ditched Percy brother. And still went to that block. So now I'm finna ditch Red Dog. Son who just got killed. I can't wait to find out where that bitch buried in so I can pay one of them to piss on the graveyard cub Yeah, I kill your son got murked in the street. What you gonna do bitch? nothing Come when I got to the city say blow call that bitch and white boy man. Let it make it man His criticism of you was just like he like doesn't like how you speak about dead people and then you're your way I'm coming back at him is to say Your son just got killed last week bitch.

2:06:53I know you cry Half-ass black boy white boy kid got killed Your dad's son and his mama paying to out that bitch cross after death Because you were after you couldn't show him nothing you let them raise him You let them go raising white boy and raise him right to the graveyard stupid ass pecker would you I wouldn't have never had no black baby if I was white and I got red her I would have had me a Richie Cunningham dumb ass cracker yeah your white baby and I'd be in the city this week whole ass they know I'm really with that shit I swear to God Adam they know everyone ain't told me I can't go I went after disrespecting me Why?

2:07:40Because they done wrong all these years. Kill, drive by, drug, stole, hurt their mama, abandon their kid. Y 'all ought to be able to take a look, word, fellas. Maybe this is y 'all karma, because y 'all can't touch me. You can't touch what's on the move. You ain't got no booking money or nothing. My ticket's too hot. I'm trying to come to the show to go to jail. My ticket's too hot. Ask Giddy the Kid I'm just in Philadelphia the other day by myself Red Dog Boy I ain't even got a tombstone yet That I'm gonna go visit him And I be hearing a young n**** talk about How they killed him He died like a coward You don't even know me bitch ass white boy Think you gonna get on the white boy's platform And talk bad to the n**** who run the city I really run that city You know it But I don't know you I'm gonna get to know you I want to know everything about your son who got killed the black bitch that can have to beg to bury him Y 'all you have no money to bury that bitch ass Y 'all have to beg for a casket Fish basket selling mother

2:08:52Bitch ass for speaking my name I'm not cool And let me find out that bitch do drug. I'm gonna put CPS on that hole because all y 'all get high from what I hear. I don't know you, but I heard you and the bitch get high. One phone call to child protective services. You're getting your mouth swabbed. Cracker. Yeah, don't mention my name. It's Paul with whoever. And I don't play foul, but I don't lie. Put the CPS on this bitch ass. I don't think you should use that as like a thing that you're weaponizing. Don't delete it. Let him see it. I'm not going to delete it. I want his whole family to see it.

2:09:33The bitch that's crying on my dad's son, bitch, put this in your mouth. Oh, man. What the f***? Why do you got to take it? Why do you got to take it? Because I hate for a white boy to speak on me. I did you like that when I got mad. You didn't know me. Don't talk like you know me. But my son didn't just die, so it feels like a little different. Yeah. Isn't that part of you that wants to have a heart? No, I want to have a heart for a red neck cracker that can't get a tan over with these black ass. Get mistreated you fix cars How you got in with you was a car putting speakers in You didn't get something no game you want a car speaking with big a mechanical I feed close the streets I Disrespect killers and gang members what makes you think a white market talk to me it won't get disrespected and you ain't no killer I disrespect the 60s.

2:10:34Notorious. What makes you think I won't disrespect this white boy dead son? Come die by this. If a white gang member kills you, that will be kind of the ultimate irony, right? For me? Yeah. I go down in history. He might go down in history too, right? It'll break my heart. You're going to be the next Nipsey. His mama will die. I wouldn't be the next Nipsey. Shitty cuz. I pray to God I can die by a white man and not a black man. I'd rather die by the hands of my enemy Red dog is your enemy? He a white boy With red hair talking against me Hell yeah he's my enemy You once with my enemy I'm glad we got past that I'm glad we were too but this is what I'm saying He trying to play I am a I can make one phone call and get him summons To a location right now I can make one phone call To get him summons to a location right now But I ain't gonna do that Could have been the summons him I'm gonna make him chimp out since he won't be He won't hang with the I'm gonna make the chimp out with words Your dead son He ain't even a white boy.

2:11:40He a melodion your boy dead. Oh my god, and them still maggots gonna eat grass Had he been white? He'll still be right and living Dumb-ass white boy done. You know, we're mixed with him That's a curse. You curse your boy. Blam that bitch. Please don't cut this. I want him to chimp out. Free Chud the building. What a way to finish it. I've been fucking on here and do this. What, this is too hot for state cheese? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Too hot for Blav? I think Blav might edit it out. No, no, no. I brought it here because he came here. Because you want to challenge me as a white boy. No, this ain't got nothing to do with you, Adam.

2:12:21Okay. You want to make sure I'll never be good with the white bloods I want to make sure This whole ass white boy See where I sat at the shed Because that's where I saw him talking about me I ain't going nowhere else I'm going to bring all these views over here to you You paid for it Man it's a dope thing I saw that shit I said save your blow I even called Trent The nigga that brought the San Diego Skyline Piru to the city Who is it white boy my Trent train my daughter They might Now they know I'm gonna go off And then I got a call say that bitch a white boy red dollar so I said who I'm gonna eat his ass up I ain't got a Facebook page.

2:13:06I don't have a Facebook page, so I can't go get him locally None of the people locally is in my algorithm to cover her talk but all them local mother was in that bitch ass city called Fort Worth I disrespected that city for 10 years straight and nobody took a swing with me and the n***a that did Hit me while I was asleep When I came out that dope I bust on his ass down called two eggs off. That's why in that city them know So I said what makes it white boy? He playing for content Well, his son hadn't died yet. So I really didn't want to give him the attention He mentioned his name. So you wait for when he's at the lowest point I'm the man that kicks the man when he's down.

2:13:48I take pride in it I'm gonna kick gas when it down I'm gonna be the dead heart the bitches day. I'm gonna keep You bother me I'm relentless I'm gonna ask him and I'm relentless And what you say to me have no effect because I won't go watch it. I don't I don't hurt me Why would I click on this? I know you talk about me. I'm too psychological to do that So what I do here, I go watch your page, look at your children, your big feet mother. I go look at all that shit. All that shit. Not his mom's feet. Her feet, her long fingers. I pick apart from the ass to the head like a hyena, but I'm a lion. Wow.

2:14:39Hyenas hit you from your ass to the head. Keep you alive because it's torture. I use words because I learned in school how powerful adjectives are and pronouns. So I learned how to use adjectives as kids as weapons of words. Because they lied and said the sticks and stones don't break my bone. And every word I ever said to them will hurt them. It's part of God. Words don't seem to hurt white people. Okay, but when people say sticks and stones don't break my bones but words never hurt me, that's not like they're like suggesting that that's like that's like a way for you to sort of steal yourself against like if you lie to yourself and tell you that word won't affect you why because the person who's saying it really don't know you you know what words hurt your womans who really know you right those words hurt your ass your homeboy and your friends but your associates and people who really don't know you they really don't hurt it just trigger you right it hurts your ego but it don't hurt your heart i feel like everybody has one thing that they don't like reading comments about you don't have one thing that kind of pisses you off well here's the thing i go read the comments on my page why that's for the direction for your content live right if you come over and read this this i'll distract you because for one it's on somebody else's page with their title if you stay on your page with your data your engagements you're going to become a better content creator.

2:16:05Why? Half the comments go tell you out of goodness what they want from you, what they like. The oven's going to tell you how better you can be out of hate. I study me because I know engagements is what rule, not view. That's kind of the beauty of streaming is that you've got this chat in front of your face the whole time. It's basically telling you where you're at in their mind. Well, it's all children hating though. Yeah, well, you have to consider the audience as well. Well, well, here's the thing that chat you have to perform in a piece the other chats you don't Because they don't get it in real life, right?

2:16:40So it's hard to make better what you can in the production room than you can in real life if it's not staged instruction. Mm-hmm I don't I don't engage Everybody I have a target audience that I engage so if you saying something bad about me I ain't gonna click that to here because once I click now you have weapons against me Even if it don't affect me if I listen long enough It will if you send me some say man, you hear what they said about you. I block you Why you trying to hurt? I want to hurt you heard right so my power will I'd never go watch a video to respond Hmm. I go study all your social media pages.

2:17:19It's a flaw somewhere something you love on there, right? That's why I'm going to, boy, you better keep your kids off that page if you don't, yeah. Yeah, yeah, dude. You better not post your mama just died last week. Oh, man. We've been around. I'm going to go put a laughing emoji up under the funeral page. Not a laughing emoji. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to spell bitch B1TC7. So the algorithm can't get me. That is important. You got to know those hacks. That is some real shit. But you know I'm calling a bitch. Yeah. um okay uh so drake one of the the main uh things from the album that stood out to a lot of people is that he basically clowned dj khaled because dj khaled wasn't uh showing support for him at a certain point in his career when he was going through the kendrick beef dj khaled was ghost and then uh uh drake actually used it against him saying you owe your people the free palestine which is he's really like latching on to the fact that dj khaled's fan base or what once existed of his fan base is, you know, pretty anti him on behalf of the fact that he hasn't said anything about Palestine.

2:18:29And shout out to Palestinians. So I have a Palestinian company that gave me a six-figure clothing deal because of things that I've said in support of Palestine. Really? It's called Privy Society. Wow. Crushed clothing, crushed clothing line out of Cleveland, Ohio. So, man, I done got free. Man, when I said what I said about Palestine, homie, I got free ties, man, because they got the tie shops in Texas. So when you understand the conditions of the Palestinians and you know the history and you know the truth behind what's going on. And I

2:19:17Yeah man Khaled's supposed to say something for the people I like his music I'm in Miami You like DJ Khaled's music? Yeah I like his music, why? Because he don't rap, he gonna get everybody that can rap He's never really heard anybody be like I'm a huge DJ Khaled fan He done put some songs together I'm not a DJ Khaled fan But he gonna go put we the best Need some motherfucking music I know God did He gonna get some songs But outside of that Drake has a valid point Drake has a valid mother F***ing point and it's one of them Below the belt punches That kind of hurt Because your people saying Oh man And if nothing else if you say something They might take you You're out of the music industry forever No no no no No, no, no.

2:20:05No, no. You can bridge a gap. Right. He's in a position to bridge a gap to bring peace. But we know that Drake isn't going to be out here saying free Palestine, but Drake did previously sign a petition for the ceasefire or whatever. So I think Drake actually kind of wants to say free Palestine, but because of his deep connections within the Jewish community, he absolutely can't. So him actually using it against D.J. Khaled is like a beautiful chess move where he gets to say free Palestine on his album even though he is not saying it from his voice he's saying it from the perspective of the Palestinian people I got a hoodie that I wear that has the Palestinian flag sewn all up in there and only people see it is Palestinian I wear it through the airport they stop and take pictures with me I wear it on certain podcasts they see it uh if you're in if you're into entertainment stay in your lane and don't get into politics if you want to be a great entertainer yeah that's pretty common uh advice yeah yeah so so let me just say this though somebody that's friends with everybody is really friends with nobody cat is friends with everybody right yeah so uh you know i might take a little heat by living in miami for this but yeah uh i'm drake all day uh and yeah nowhere in the world I can get in this position and have a connection to Jews, Palestinians, or whoever, and not try to whisper something in somebody's ear on behalf of my people.

2:21:34Close doors, out doors, something. I'm going to try to advocate for something. Because this is what really brought peace to the world. Entertainers, you had all the entertainers did. We are the world. When they had the Dr. King riots, after King was killed, brought Jane Brown out. or Dennis Robin and been to North Korea. So now, homie, I always use people in positions like this here, homie, to it's just these today's entertainers don't have a heart for they people or nobody people. Yeah, it's today's entertainers that lack the heart and the spirit and the compassion for the people at the bottom.

2:22:13I'm the only to go back down to the bottom. I'm like Jack in the Beanstalk. I come up with all the celebrity, then go back down to the bottom. nor the celebrity comes back down to the bottom. When they go to cities and do shows, they don't go to no stores, no local school for the kids to see them. I make that my business because I watch all the black celebrity before me do that. Would you rather do a show at a synagogue or a mosque? A synagogue. The mosque put the holes in the back and you're going to be sitting up there with a bunch of n****s looking at each other. If nothing else is at the synagogue, you're going to sit next to the bitches.

2:22:47The mosque got a special door for the women sometimes. Them hoes got to be in the back. When them hoes kneel to pray, you got to look over your shoulder back there at them. And one of them Muslim, they're going to tell you. That's the worst part about the mosque. It's hard to look at the hoes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, I like to go to church to with the hoes. That's why I stay Christian. Because them hoes ain't got no uniforms to wear. They play the kind of music that damn near make them hoes get up. They got wine, crackers. Well, fuck all that. I love crackers. That motherfucking musician and that choir director have them hoes up there like they're in the club sometime in the church.

2:23:18And if you one of them that pay ties faithfully and they see you going up there dress nice and you walk by, they smell that motherfucking Victoria's Secret cologne. And you don't put$300 worth of warrants in the pot. You damn near got four or five holes you can f***ing hurt. If you do that in one of them marshes in synagogue, you're going to have some problems looking at them holes. No, that's a good point. How do you feel about Jake Paul telling us that he might do blackface in response to the Drewski Erica Kirk skit? I'm in support of it. Yeah, I'm in support of it. Homie, you can't. man, our ancestors died for them to be able to do this and us to be able to do this.

2:23:51And if you don't like it, don't watch it. Oh, they used to do blackface in the 80s and the 90s. Right, yeah. In Living Color. Jim Carrey done done blackface. The idea that it is so offensive that nobody should ever be able to do it is kind of like a recent invention. When did black people get like the gay people? You can't tell me, when did black people get like the gays? I think they saw the gay people doing it and they were like, oh, we're going to do that. I mean, it's wokeism. It's all part of it. Well, let's get some rights like I'm being. Let's throw a petition and get rights like gay people.

2:24:21We can't just pick and choose when we get mad, y 'all. When, when, listen, nobody is more disrespectful in comedy and making jokes about things to other races than black people. Nobody. Yeah. Nobody. Okay. Okay. Nobody crack a joke better than a black person trying to be funny against an Asian, a white, a Arab. Nobody. And we do it with ease. And we use more racial slurs than anybody. Man, fuck that way back. Man, fuck that cracker white boy. I done used so many racial slurs of hers to crack a peck of wood. And nobody will ever be offended. And the white man is really the minority. He ain't the majority.

2:25:07I mean, now, yeah, there's probably a lot of truth to that. Now he is the minority. Okay. It's still the biggest group in America, though. He has to adhere to everybody else's rights. Yeah. And walk on eggshells doing it. It's the biggest group. It's just not the majority of the country anymore. I believe. I think. We might need a fact check, but. I don't think you guys are the majority. With so many other ethnicities. 99 different tongues here now. They all got a town. White people just starting to get a town again. A town? Chinatown. Oh, okay. Yeah, they got a town. You see those all-white communities down south that they're kind of creating?

2:25:46I'm loving it. You like that? I'm loving it. I think everybody should have one. You like it even though you wouldn't really be allowed in one? Oh, I don't want to be in one. All-white, and this is what they're choosing? I want to be in Dr. King's dream. It is weird because I respect the idea that anybody should be able to live in whatever kind of community they want to live in. If you want to live in an all-white community, I think that's fine. Jews do. Exactly. Yes. Everything around the world. Look at Japan. Yeah. You got a whole damn country. Yeah, so only people think that's wrong is black people.

2:26:12and liberal white people. Yeah. Why? Because black people and liberal white people are one and the same. Mm. Same mind. Liberal white people are like wannabe black people. And black people. They want to co-op that pain. And black people want to be white people. Why? That's why we're arguing with you about your rights when we come to your Starbucks. Yeah. And you mistreat us. And they think that you would want there to be a big bright rainbow flag in the front of the Starbucks. even though me knowing a lot of black people i don't think there's not that many people are dying to see that there used to be a what was it soul brother c thomas howell one of the best movies in the 80s white men wanted to go to college take a pill die itself blackface soul man best goddamn movie i know people in the porn industry that are on peptides that they inject that makes their skin insanely dark.

2:27:08Not black so much, but a darker brown than you would ever see a white person ever be able to obtain naturally. So let me just say this. They're shooting up blackness into their skin. Last week, Steve Will Do It flew me in to do a parody. He was blackface, I was whiteface. He went to a tanning thing and this looked it black for real in real life because he got a big... Oh, I did see those pictures. He got a big nose. Right, okay.

2:27:43Man, this is how I know. He's a good dude. His parents, his mom were great people. His sister, the nervousness... That he had? Man, the nervousness that he had walking back and forth. And that's a white boy who says the N-word on the internet all the time. All the time. I'm in his home with his family, so Stein and him show up. the nervousness of these white guys who normally does anything they want to do got to this homie and I'm like come on let's do it come on man what the fuck I said you with me you get a pass and Stanton said Charleston you're the only one can get away with this it's so much sponsorships on the line and I'm saying man don't you know what this will do man if you just do it homie so I'm looking for me and Chud can do it You paint your face black and let's do it.

2:28:33I don't think I'm the guy. Let's play cops and robbers. I think that if a really, really funny white guy does it and puts in as much effort as the Erica Kirk skit, that for sure the majority of people would think it's funny. I don't think people think I'm that funny. I don't need funny. I need offensive. I'm really going to nominate Theo Vaughn. I need offensive. He's the white guy who can make blackface kind of funny, right? I need him. No, no, Shane. I need him to play nigga nigga. I play crackle crackle, but me nigga crackle. I'm a nigga hating cracker. And I'm going to say the meanest things that I can say about this in a white face.

2:29:07And I want him to try to act like a n****. Hold his n****. Talk, slick, and fly. Try to f*** every girl he see. I'm going to show him how to be a n****. I don't need funny. Because comedy is always not funny. It's stimulating and entertaining. And a good example of that has been the Kevin Hart roast, which everybody's seen a million clips from. And a lot of extremely offensive jokes in a lot of people's minds. Jokes about this woman whose husband committed suicide. Jokes about slavery. Jokes about George Floyd. You can joke about that. A lot of people are very up in arms about this. I joke about whooping women.

2:29:45I joke about graping. I joke about everything. I joke about child station. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I joke about all that. Because why? It happens. And it's funny. It's funny. Yeah, yeah, it's funny. Why? Because you got one in your family that your grandmama probably still let around a girl. And he been molested for generations. It's an uncle and cousin that every family been f***ing. And ain't nobody should shine a light on him. So yeah, that's funny. Playing like you mad about a bitch over here getting molested. So don't play with me like molestation ain't funny. It's a n***a right now f***ing her s*** out his unday stepdaughter.

2:30:23And f***ing her mama good at nighttime too. And can't wait to f*** the little gay brother. okay but and i agree that you could make a joke about that and it could be funny and i can make you laugh when you come to my show but it's not like inherently funny right it is if you saw a guy raping his kid on the side of the road you wouldn't think it was funny somebody could make a funny joke no no no no subject matter comedy is not about seeing let's stop being so sensitive you ass american this is why we won't ever win a war going forward comedy is not about seeing a motherfucker do it it's about painting a picture so you can see it why because we know it happens so we laugh to keep from crying we laugh about George Floyd all the time I laughed about Charlie Kirk you have that attitude about George Floyd even when it happened yes I got videos of it I went downtown saying it when his daughter said my daddy changed the world I said you a lying Motherfucker, little girl, your daddy ain't changed shit Your daddy was a big Seven foot porn star that didn't have $20 he could borrow and died With some dope fiends Yeah, then I went To Minneapolis, Minnesota Where George Floyd was from To a town hall meeting and told All them people the same thing in the town he died From and said he was a coward He laid on the ground He laid on the ground You ain't gonna bet he just lay on me I'm gonna be flopping something.

2:31:47The other pole he's gonna be out to hold my legs. I ain't gonna lay there I grew up wrestling with a big brother I ain't laying there you got to kill me can't y 'all tell? I ain't no just go die like that I'm a you got to hang Rope him get him and string him up No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm a different kind of So I made fun of that Made fun of King Von, I made fun of Mo3 Who will? Name some more I think it's funny Why? Because I'm a comedian And comedians have an eye A third eye that other people don't have That's why God gave us the gift to look at it And make you laugh while the others cry about it When did you actually start to view yourself As a comedian?

2:32:40Because I feel like that gives you A lot of cover I don't describe myself as a comedian but I have a deeply offensive sense of humor. And I feel like I never get credit for just being a guy who's trying to be funny on the internet. Let me ask you a question. I didn't know what to do. I lost a YouTube channel that went to making$16 ,000 a month. I started a website to sell merchandise. Then they gave me YouTube Studio. I clicked on YouTube Studio one day. at a home computer and saw this big old massive thing of data and information. And by me having a, being a pre-law student that wrote a lot of research papers at Texas Western University, I started looking at shit.

2:33:23And I started noticing that this analytical data gives me the times, the ages, the days, the cities, where all you motherfuckers watch me. And boy, mad genius came up. So I started reading the comments, studying the data. everybody kept saying you need to do comedy these movies you come y 'all you funny bitch I ain't funny block this ain't funny block so for a year I'm watching people laugh at the shit that you want me to not laugh about when I was talking about it and they were laughing about it a 93 year old woman got shot and killed boy they were laughing about it a young girl just got raped by these They were laughing about it And then I saw Paul Mooney Paul Mooney said the greatest truth ever told was told as a joke so between studying data Watching my audience which is my target demographics.

2:34:21So I'm tell you where you're dumb at I'm not looking at the coming section over here. I'm not looking at Adam videos. I got 200 ,000 followers that leaving comments on video. Why would I be looking at anything else? So I started studying my data So then I started saying when I Google my name, I noticed that I can't find myself on the front page of the American Bar Association Journal. Did you know that? No, I was on the front page of the American Bar Association Journal working on laws and legislation. I started seeing Vlad TV interview. Then I Googled. I just did a study with Arizona State University, the Walter Cuncrate School of Journalism on fatherlessness in America.

2:35:07I just did a national study with the biggest journalism school in the world. And I can't find it on the Internet. What the fuck? I can't find this on the Internet. Why? Because I became so polarizing as an Internet persona. Now what I do on the internet is supersede real documentation. So I said, I have to attach myself. What's this called? It's called transform. Because you only got so much of a life on the internet. So what I saw was, I saw that podcasts were starting to come. Guys like Vlad and all these other guys were starting to do podcasts, but they really couldn't do well. But their channels done well.

2:35:50Their platforms done well. I started noticing that people on the internet with platforms cannot make this platform transform over here That's what made me get into comedy to see if I can make this come to ticket sales on stage Why supply and demand why that's what my audience is telling me I'm trying to talk real but for the first three four years they laughing at me I look at your eye right with you. I so I started incorporating what they wanted from me. Snitch, Rat William, Uncle Ruckers. Remember at first I was bashing white people. Talking about grape and white women at first. Remember? They told me to leave y 'all alone and get in what they wanted.

2:36:32So I did my first show in Atlanta. BET weekend like in 2021, 2022. No, 2022. Atlanta Uptown Corner. sold out$10 ,000 payment. I ain't look back sin. But I didn't know what I was doing. It was all off gifts. So I had transformed from being just a guy on the internet, making y 'all laugh. Within six months, I had a live nation tour. Me and T.K. Kirkland. Two years later, I had my own residency at Wise Guys Comedy Club right here in Las Vegas, performing every Thursday in Town Square. so from then i signed with the agency and yeah it's been on but that ain't nothing i wanted to do ain't nothing but because i didn't know what to do outside of the internet like most people uh i had to fall back on what they want so i just been giving people what they want so what i do now when you call me for a booking i listen to you i see if you want to book charleston the persona or trust in the man.

2:37:43You run into that problem where they just want viral hijinks? So based on who you want, what you charge. You want trust and you get what you get. Well, if they want that fool, you're talking about$15 ,000,$16 ,000,$20 ,000 and they pay it. Why? They double it later on down the road or whether it's now. So based on the type of questions and the line of questions, that's how I know what you're looking for. When you talk to older black comedians, do you feel like they understand what you're building or do they think that you should clean it up and follow more of the traditional blueprint? Sam West, Al Heyman, Shucky Ducky, so a lot of older guys, Eddie Griffin, Eddie Griffin's uncle, they said, man, you I knew Richard.

2:38:37I was told that the new community mediums as well as some of the old didn't think that i was gonna be this good now they didn't think i was this good homie uh because they think i'm the persona uh they don't know i'm studying home i took theater and arts and drama class in college uh but i'm the old storytelling so i'm the old yeah so so uh it's the new ones who won't mention me or acknowledge me but all the old love me y 'all the old one love me definitely um okay so i feel like i kind of hit most of the we done been all over there. See, that's what I like. See, I like a motherf***er interviewer that can't prepare when he got to try to dance over the place.

2:39:14If I go too long, he cut me off. We go on. He always got a guideline to come back to. See, that's how I can always remember what I done said. I want to get a f***ing burger now. Yeah, yeah, see, nigga, we got one. Nah, we got one, bro. Nah, that was hard. Yeah, yeah. I apologize to Red Dog and his family for all these things that this man said. I'll be back to the city. We can talk about it when I get there. Y 'all know where I be. Oh, I love that idea. Yeah, you guys should definitely I'll be in the city. You came here and said what you said. So now let's see if you can take what I said, bitch ass.

2:39:44You just got a dead son. I get to go hug mine in Miami when I get back. Dear God, that's a lot. All right, shout out to Charleston. Where are you headed off to next? You staying in Vegas for long? Yeah, I got 6 '9", and Stiney. I got 607 Mark tomorrow. Me and Cam Capone finally getting back together doing one. I talked about his daddy laying down paralyzed in the bed. So I done said some mean shit to some people. I didn't mean it. It wasn't nothing in the heart. It's just words of war. Right. Verbal judo, as I call it. I'm glad to hear that. Yeah. Okay. Appreciate you, man. Much love. Trust me.

2:40:18Coming to a strip club near you. He's part of the nation, so y 'all treat him and handle him with care now. I am part of some sort of nation that he's telling you about here. Just call it the end nation. I can't speak on exactly what that nation is, but everybody out there, No Jumper Coolest Podcast in the world, make sure you like, comment, and subscribe so we keep doing more of these. I'm bringing him to mama in my house so we can eat. He got to eat at a table. We got to we got to have some green we bringing them down south. We called it the Underground Railroad

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