Crip Mac & His Mom's First Interview! Gangbanging, Parenting & Prison Time

24:25That works for you until it stops working. And more and extra more until it's - It'll work for you until it stops working. Okay, so then at what point and how did you feel when he got the forehead tattoo? It feels like that's an important question. That broke my heart because I knew it was more than just a tattoo. It was his feelings and the way that it was designed to be shown at that time. I think it just symbolizes his grief. and he just came up on the anniversary of Tiny Hardhead. He said, Mom, today was a day. And I said, rest in peace. And I felt his pain. And I knew it was more than just a tattooing.

25:01Oh, yes, five ever. I'll torch them to the day I die. I don't give a fuck. That's up to him. No, no, it's serious. That's your deal. But that put you at odds with some family members like the Hoovers that you were around. It's all right. Family unions were kind of off the table. I can't go at all. But you better say, well, I don't know, nephew. you know how your cousins get yeah yeah but that Auntie Valerie is mama bear's cousin oh yeah I'm gonna go check her out after I leave yeah yeah what helped you to get through the forehead tattoo like I said prayer and just seeing that he was passionate about something and he took that energy and he went well I mean he went and he started feeling passionate it's just a funny thing he's passionate about because my mom says shit like that she'll be like you know as much as i was worried about him being out riding bikes until four in the morning at least you know he was passionate about the bike ride thing it's kind of funny to hear her say that about having that forehead tattoo yeah can you say i know yeah but that's that's that's the position that you put her in yeah exactly having to deal with something that is so crazy yeah that what could you possibly i let mama know everything's gonna see all right you know i definitely do it out baby snaps lets her know all the time yeah you have been around for a long time now yeah wow you know so it's like you know it doesn't seem like you're gonna i think we're gonna see an 80 year old i believe so i say 55 or a little older maybe 155 yes that's impossible there's options technology we're gonna put you with brian johnson you can live forever.

26:41You be that person. Give me AI life. Yeah. That's a good point. Would you be mad if us kept doing interviews with an AI version of you as time went by? How do you do that? If you died, could I just do that? Yes, you can. I don't have the technology, but I bet it's out there. I bet you can. It would probably be boring, though, because he's only going to do the things that you've already done. He's not going to be able to, like, think of new shit. Oh, I mean, guess what? The world will continue to watch him to the day they die. Yeah. Absolutely. The question is, can the AI continue to think of new Crip Mac storylines?

27:15No, he's just going to say the same storylines, but you can mix the storylines with other people's stories. The AI will go well. You know it will. A million years from now. New experiences. What if the AI decided that he wanted to you know? What? Take a walk on the wild side. He would never do some Mr. Gary shit. No, Mr. Gary. Scary Gary. No, Scary Gary. You know Five Reaches? He was scary. But not you. Not you. No, no, no. No, no. Terrible. Yeah, Mr. Gary was interesting because he was scary. For being a cop, he was kind of... That was a sign that maybe he was a little different. Every little noise in the house, he was like grabbing his gun.

27:52Yeah, he grabbed his pistol. Always with this little white dog. But then he got caught fucking a big old man with like Brock Lesnar. Brock Lesnar. Yeah. Yeah, he was a big guy. He was getting... I mean, Brock Lesnar's kind of one of a kind. He's like the craziest genetic freak ever. Big old white guy. All buffed out. Tearing his ass down. It was a gym buddy. You just heard screams coming from the room. It was a gym buddy. Now that I think about it. It was, yes, at the gym. They were working out together in more ways than one. Oh, man. Well, he was supposed to pick me up from the library. So stereotypical.

28:19He never picked me up from the library, so Mama Bear had me get a ride from one of her friends home, and that's what we heard. Wow. Insane. So, okay, how did you feel when Crip Mac first kind of exploded doing interviews? Because his first interview got two million views. Yeah, it was you. So proud. That was you. That must have been a crazy experience. Mommy's talking. Sometimes I got to do it like that. Mama Bear's talking. Yeah, I stood back and I said, wow. I said, look at my baby go. Look at him getting the platforms that are necessary to create some type of change. Even though it started with such a negative catalyst, you know, this is not something that's positive in the view of others.

28:58But he took that, ran with it, and look who he is today. And he's continuing to bless people and his family and be a great father and a wonderful son. A nifty father like King Five Fingers. Bring King Five Fingers to general. Giving every enemy a certified play ball get cracking issue. And what I know about him, what I know about him. I know I met him. You met King Five Fingers. And what I know about C-Mac is he does change because things do change. Every day there's an opportunity for some type of change. And, you know, the never commit suicide is very powerful. Everything is going to see all right.

29:30Just hanging out for one more day. Shout out Andrew to Channel 5. Yeah, absolutely. Shout out Andrew. Andrew Callahan. Yeah, okay, so, I mean, the first - It's like having a toddler, I'm telling you. Yeah, you're telling me. So wait, he does the interview, and then you sort of realize, like, oh - This is real. The same shit that I was so worried about also might be the thing that's gonna make him money and make him famous, which is putting his gangster lifestyle onto play. I'm not a gangster, I'm a gangster. Right. Yeah, so I really knew that, you know, something different was going to happen because he just continued to be on the Internet, continuing to promote people and just going viral.

30:14And we're like, wow, he's got something really special and he's using it. You can help different people with your platform. Right. As long as it's fair as citizens. Always has to be fair. Everything's fair. Right. You know, always have to be fair. Most definitely, yeah. Definitely. So then, I mean, were you kind of astounded at how big it got? because it's like it could have been sort of like a mid-tier phenomenon, but then I think the Channel 5 video takes it to another level. I think the forehead tattoo to me was an instant death sentence in my mind. For this to go the opposite direction. Not a death sentence.

30:47Right. For someone else. Right. But it took on its own path.

30:59Oh, shit. Finish the conversation. Always been this way. I love you to pieces. Yes, I should finish the conversation. Yeah, it's okay, sweetie. Everything's okay. Such a crazy fuck. I'm so used to having him on the podcast where he can just kind of do whatever he wants. It's so crazy to see him with someone who's trying to bring him back to reality. You don't see me pinching him under the table either. Trust me. I'm going to get a fork pretty soon. I just be dabbing this sucker. Got you. Not a fork. Oh, man. A fork. Get you a fork. A five. Not a fork. Ooh. A fife. A fife. A fike. A fike. For sure.

31:47Okay. So then he kind of blows up. You see it get to a whole different level in terms of him being able to make money and, you know, everything like that. And then he catches this charge, gets sent to the feds for a couple of years. How did that feel? as a mother. Well, this last time I knew something had changed before he went in. The only reason I care is because I had a baby coming. If I didn't have a baby coming, I would have never gave a f***. The way he spoke about his future and the baby, you know, just like you said, just the baby was the cat. The baby was the only reason. He felt like he had something.

32:18I would have never gave a f***. He felt like he had something to give a f*** about. Yeah, the baby. Right. Give her a fair life, Kalani Bear. So if anything, fatherhood would have been that one thing A nifty father like King Five Give me promise that everything's gonna see alright Because you were probably really looking forward to becoming a grandmother, yes, we had a couple scares before and I was just really leery and I'm so happy that she turned out to be exactly who I wanted her to be. And he's your only child, right? That's it, I have one and done Have fun. Did you ever think about having more kids?

32:50No. Really? No. He was the only one that made sense? I think the relationship with him, myself and his father created such a paranoid thing inside of me where I didn't want to bring on another child unless I was married or in a steady situation. So I had to be honest with that and say, no, it's not an option. Nobody ever thought the mentally ill would make it in life. We're all a work in progress. I'm glad to have been a part of that. Yes, you are. Adam is a part of it. Mental health is very important. I mean, he's someone that a lot of people out there really relate to. They look at him as a survivor.

33:25Most definitely survive. Never give up, right? Hold on for a more day. Never give up. Never commit suicide. Everything's you'll see all right. Never eat your own poop. What? Stop doing that. No, you never will. You doing that again? I don't know. You never will eat your own poop. I don't know what he's saying. No, no, no. You're doing that again. He never did that, right? No, he wasn't. Maybe he's a baby. You ate crayons. You ate the normal stuff like that. Babies don't eat poop. He was a really... They eat crayons, though? Huh? Babies eat crayons. Crayons. Crayons. Crayons. Crayons. Crayons. I tried to tell my kid, like when I'm trying to tell her to stop eating her boogers when she was little, I was like, that's just as bad as eating your own poop.

34:07And that didn't really seem to like convince her. It didn't do it. Yeah. They got to do what they want to do. She wanted to eat boogers. They got to do what she want to do. Babies eat crayons. I think she got over the booger eating though. You just got to tell them over and over not to do it for a while. But all seriousness, I just really like him to be his own person and to make his own decision. He's going to do that anyway. So I stand back. I watch. I'm here to support. I'll always be in his corner. Most definitely. Yeah. So. I like that. I definitely want to shout out to 50 Fischer for local general Blue Devil.

34:34She knows Blue Devil. Oh, Blue Devil really helped when you were incarcerated this last time. Oh, he definitely did. I did a lot of business through him. Thank you, Blue Devil. That was great. Most definitely. Shout him out. Yes. And baby snails. Definitely. Okay. So those two years in the feds, was that difficult for you to know that he was in this crazy environment? I knew he could handle himself. I knew he would get in a lot of times. Oh, I know. I know how to do things and I know I've learned not to go on debt. Right. I learned. He did business while he was in there. So he stayed focused and he solved the prize.

35:06So I knew he was moving in that direction. I did phone interviews every other day at 5.55. Yeah, he was doing a lot of phone interviews. Make a good 2.55. Right. So he was creating, you know, some type of wealth in there. But I made sure I sent it to Kalani Berendrina to help them. Yeah. And then towards the end, I was in the L.A. County jail. Juicy Drainer would send me money. Right. Right. So she did help out. Yeah, but she knew I was coming home to her. So that. Ah, well. But she made sure it happened where she sent the dollars. Yeah, exactly. So she was supportive as well. So that helps. Did you get worried when you heard about this incident where he allegedly had to put in some work?

35:42I don't know if that means like he just beat somebody up. You got to get him off the yard. He ran down on somebody. I heard about it, but I don't really. You got to get him off the yard. because I know he's in God's hands and I know he's going to handle his business. But you got to realize when you go in there on crip time where there's a gangbanger, you got to come out the same. Right. Keep the same energy. Most definitely you got to. Right. You can't change ever. Right. You can change. No. No. Because it's the last day in there. If a riot goes on, there's some stabbing. You got to stab a mother f***ing in 10 years.

36:18It's bad. But guess what? You stood on your crip and you got to do what you gotta do. So it's worth it for you to not see your daughter until she's what, like 11, 12 years old? I gotta stand on my Crippen. Damn. My Crippen's very important. I love the baby. You put Crippen before family. No, no, no, it's Crippen and the baby. Well, but it sounds like Crippen baby. Right there, if you have the choice, go stab this fool on behalf of Cripps or sit in your cell and wait till you get out of jail. So get marked out, get f***ed in the ass and stabbed and shot on the streets of the baby. I might see the baby in 10 years.

36:53You're not going to mark out my Crippin' Oh. And that's what he's dealing with today. That's how he feels today. Oh, yeah. I can't pretend to know. You got to stand on your shit. Yeah. I'm clearly speechless, but I'm respectful at the same time. You got to respect this Crip Crazy Crippin'. You are very Crip Crazy. That's a fact of it. Oh, certified. You're crazy about Crippin'. I'm crazy about Crippin'. Yeah. Okay. Okay, so now he's back out. You're feeling good about the path that he's on. Oh, yeah. He's staying out of trouble, right? Oh, yeah, he is. And he jumped right in and got to business, you know, doing everything.

37:29All the business, staying out of snubble-wubble. Right, staying out of trouble. He is meeting with probation, doing everything he needs to do. I'm doing everything. Traveling, you know, collaborating with really great people. I shot out Luke Coosie and Smithy Luciano. I was just in Atlanta. Yes, definitely. We did the pool party and also we fed the homeless out there. That was really fun to watch. Like they had a great time. This nigga out here feeding us? Yes, I am. Why not? What do you think of it, Lamb? It's most so a Southern hospitality. Yes, everyone very nice, right? Yes, yes. It's different than out here.

38:01They got gangster shit going on, but aside from whatever. As long as you're not f***ing somebody's wife and her coochie or ripping somebody off or trying to get over on their money, you don't have no reason. They're not going to play ball with you. Right. They're going to leave you alone. You're a normal person to them. But also, did you leave Boosie's compound? Did you go anywhere else really? We went from Lil Koozie's compound. Then we went, we got something to eat. Okay. Then the compound again. You know, he kept us and made sure we was all right. Then Spiff had his spot, Spiffy Luciano. I call him Spiff Mack.

38:32A little further up, he got him a nice condo home, like a full bedroom with a studio and everything. Okay. Lil Koozie put that together. He's doing well. He's a great artist. That's his artist. Well, yeah, that's his new artist. I was going to ask you that. He's been his artist, I think, maybe like four years now. Yeah, a long time now. Yeah, yeah, you know. Yeah, shout out to Bill. And he was a nice guy. I met him at the baby's birthday party. He came, he came, he came, you know. So I didn't get invited to that, but. It was small and intimate. It was small notice because how my theme is. We love her.

39:03Shout out to Juicy Dream. But we worked at her. She did an amazing job. She did amazing. She put everything together herself. The baby was a princess. She was happy. Yeah. Yeah. I did. I went to Brick Baby's, like, daughter's three. a birthday party a couple years or a couple months back. It was a good time. It was. Baby parties are fun. It was actually like a motorcycle game. How much longer do your baby got like 10 more years? Okay, last time I talked to him, he was talking about how he might be in there for another couple years. A year, maybe two years. Oh, he's coming home. He rejected the idea that he's going to be doing 10 years.

39:36He said more like four or five and then with the time he already did. Get positive affirmation. Well, he's already been in two years, so that's two. That's what I'm saying. He sat in there a while. he might do another two. If he gets five years and it actually ends up being four then he might be in another two. I mean but you know but he's in the feds also. Fingers crossed. Best of luck to him. Brick baby. There's a lot of fights. There's a lot of riots in the feds when I'm there. We go up with the different Paisons, the different Mexicans up there. We go up with the woods sometimes over drugs and cell phones.

40:06So at any time it can go up. Around my holiday time I tell you in the summertime and Father's Day it's going up in the feds. It's just something in there. There's something in there. Everybody's mad.

40:24He's not in the actual feds yet. He's still in the whatever fed jail or whatever before he gets sentenced. But once he gets up there, that's it. It'll get cracking. Oh, most definitely. I'm sure it's cracking wherever he's at now too. Oh, the federal prison is cracking. I know people tell you a lot. Yeah. Oh, fuck, yeah. Yeah, we were in contact constantly. It's not a guarantee. If you've got a lot of time, you're not coming home on time. You've got a short time to meet. You're not going to come home on time. Because there's always something going on. You hear me? Got it. That's how it goes. What I want to say is that we were in contact constantly when he was in jail.

41:02Most definitely. Shout out to yourself and Andrew 1005. Thank you so much. And he would just navigate things from the outside, just make things happen with the baby and making sure she's taken care of. Oh, our marriage, so they had some nifty dollars. Right, and I was so proud of him, and I am proud of him for doing that. Shout out Lupe also. Oh, yeah, Lupe. She would work extra driving her Lyft and doing Amazon. She turned out to be a really good friend. Yes, she is. Lupe is very, very cool. Lupe is the reason why me and Forextra got back on the same page. I know. Lupe puts things in order. I heard about that.

41:33Yeah, Lupe puts things in order. Okay. How did that feel for you to see two of your buddies, Forextra and me, get back on the terms? I was happy. I say, you know, Faux Exorcist, you know, this can help you. He has a baby also. This can help you a lot, can't take care of the baby also. I'm glad you and Adam. Always thinking about other people. Always, you know. He is. He's definitely a spody father. He's always with his baby. Yes. Yes. I can say that. Faux Exorcist is a spody father. Yeah, definitely. I'm glad we were able to get back on good terms. Even though he did say that he wanted to kill me about a year ago.

42:05Oh, you know, he's crazy. Oh, dear. Oh, God damn. Who's crazier, you or him? I don't know. Probably you. No, no, no. We're both great guys. Yeah, but you seem like more capable of like doing some wild ass shit. Like he seems like kind of like on the straight and narrow at this point. I don't know everything he does, but he seems like he's kind of keeping his life mellow. He's a great guy just like myself. Just like yourself. We're great guys. We got you both on the outside. He's a 40's father. 4Xra and you together is kind of like the next interview. I like that. Most definitely. Off the back.

42:39Shout out 4Xra. That energy is so explosive. I've seen them together bouncing off each other. Most definitely, yeah. Right? The only thing I'm worried about is because when I saw you guys on Cam Capone together. Cam Capone. Oh, yeah, Cam. What happened? He was just kind of yelling the whole time, and it felt like you didn't get a chance to speak. Oh, I saw that one. And I wish I was there. I would have dove between you. I wasn't there. You can't speak on nothing that's going on if you're out there. Oh, right. How can I say anything? No, that's true. But even when you were trying to talk, it felt like the chemistry was weird.

43:08like you weren't really like letting each other talk enough. No, no. He has to get what he has to say. He was just ranting the whole time. Yeah, and you're able to step back if you need to step back and let people do what they do, right? No, they talk. You know, they talk. I wasn't there to know what situation happened. It's hard for him to be the B mic. Exactly. The C mic. Are you seeing that? Yeah. Even that. The C mic. I'm the C mic. On a podcast, normally, it's like the main person is the A mic. I'm the C mic, mama, man. And then the B mic, or in your case, the C mic, would be like the person who's kind of playing second fiddle.

43:39You're usually... The fifth fiddle. Wow, so many fiddles. That's five fiddles. That's crazy. I don't know if I've ever seen that many fiddles. What is a fiddle? It's like a little stringed instrument. Yeah, like a violinist. Honestly, I can't really picture it in my head, but I've heard about it. Ah, sounds good. The fiddler on the roof. Fiddler on the roof. Oh my gosh, focus. Just like a singing sound. You are a piece of work, this guy. I am. It's better than a piece of shit. That's true. Oh, my gosh. So if anybody ever questions whether kids are the same when they get older, this is yes. The answer is yes.

44:20Most definitely. But they're just an amplified version. We stay the same. We just get older. You don't have any videos of him when he was like 10 or anything? I make it find some. See, that I would be very interested to see. Yeah. Not in a sexual way. Same looks exactly the same. No, I understand. Oh, God, no. No, just. No, no. No. I just want to see how he was acting at that time as well. She has to find some. Maybe Auntie Valerie, man. He wasn't a mean-spirited. He wasn't a bully. He was stand-up for people who were being bullied. Most definitely. I'll fight if I get beaten. Yeah. Oh, yeah. But he wouldn't let people push him around.

44:51It doesn't matter how big they were. No, I never gave a fuck. Right. So he's always been that way. That's just been him. But I'm not going to sit around and let nobody get bullied. No. Sure. Okay, here's a question. What is it like seeing him as a father? I love it. Let me answer this. Please give me my 10 seconds. I'll get 10. Okay. Oh my God. Five. I didn't even say that. I don't know if you're peeping it, but she wants you to cede a little bit more of the mic time to her so that she can. She's only done a handful of interviews in her life, whereas you've done a lot. All right. Come on. Let's go.

45:23Okay. Here we go. But we still want you involved. Most definitely. So as a father, he's very involved. He likes to FaceTime with the baby when he can. And he makes sure that Drina gets her increments. He keeps everything in line. keeps communication between our side of the family and her side connected and and just really wants everyone to be okay and you know we will see all right you know it will be so yeah i really love how he's being a father even though it's not the traditional way you know mother father but to be honest he didn't he wasn't raised seeing that as an example so he can be the exception um but you know everything happens for a reason right so yeah it is what it is yeah so still on not not the best terms with the baby mama?

46:04No, no. We're all right. We go there. We'll put things in order. She gets her increments. You know. Okay. Everything's gonna see all right. Drina's still part of the family. Yes, she is. She's always gonna be. We respect and love her. Shout out to Juicy Drina and her baby boy and Kalani. Yes, definitely. Does she still get mad when she sees you with other girls on camera and whatnot? Because I know she freaked out after the Tania thing. Well, she's a woman. You know, a woman's a woman. But she's a great woman. She takes care of the baby. She gets her increments. We'll leave it like that. Shout out to Juicy Drina and everything.

46:32she's doing with the baby. Yes. Okay, for sure. Okay, and so now he has a new girlfriend. Yes, Naomi. Have you tapped in with Naomi? General Shy Look, 25-7 Gangster Creek. I've spoken to her on the phone and she was really, really delightful to talk to. She's a sweetie pie, especially in bed. And had something. Okay, this is my side. Let me tell my side. It's like good cop, bad cop. I swear. Keep your darkness over there. Hey, I want to shout out our OnlyFans. I want to shout out our OnlyFans. You get all horny. Crip Mac wife,$5.55. A lot of people would not talk about f***ing their girlfriend in front of their mom.

47:07Get cracked down on camera like a faux nickel cracking vibe shots. Crip Mac wife only fans,$5.55. It also helps feed the baby. Okay, is it my turn? Can I step in? Can I step in, please? Yes, ma 'am. Thank you, darling. Oh, here's my time. I don't even know. Where were we? This is just... Just what you think of his new girlfriend. Oh, I think that, you know, oh, they were giving out food, I think, for the homeless. We were. She didn't have anything but her lucky$2 bills, and she gave it to the person. And I thought that was so kind. So C-Mac's dad sent me some money over to get some new$2 for her.

47:47So we got her$10. So tenfold, she's being blessed for doing something nice. Shout out Mr. Shabundi. And then I got her a Starbucks card. So I just like somebody who's going to be positive around him. Wait, wait. Okay, so your dad reached out to give your girlfriend$10? No, no, no. And$2 bills. Why and$2 bills? Because she gave her last$2 bill to a homeless guy. The$2 bills are just lucky. Right. So we replaced them. When I was a kid, my dad would give me a$2 bill on Christmas. You're from New Hampshire. I am. Yes. $2 bills are fun. There are no Hoovers in New Hampshire as far as I know. Yo, it's still New Hampshire.

48:25I know. I'm just saying. However it goes. Maybe you could retire to New Hampshire so you won't ever have to see another Hoover. New Hampshire. Who knows? He walked in the building and he said, Adam 22 from New Snapshire. I'm like, I think you did it wrong. Did you really say that? Yes, New Snapshire. He added it to the wrong part of the word. Why am I shocked about anything? Why would I be shocked about anything? Anything. Why would you? I don't know. I'm not. No, but New Hampshire is the best state that you could be from, from his perspective, besides that's California, I guess, because I am from NH.

48:57Oh, I love that. I knew that about you. Which Big U once pointed out to me. He said, ooh, New Hampshire, I like that. I go, no homo. And he goes, no, Adam. He was, neighborhood. Shout out to Lupe. Shout out to Lupe, neighborhood, bro. And for a clip. Are you from here, California? No. New Hampshire. New Hampshire? Yeah. You from New Hampshire? Yeah. You from New Hampshire. New Hampshire. What? How the fuck did you get here? I like the initials, though. You from NH? No homo. I'm NH. Yes, sir. Oh, and. No homo. No homo. What the fuck? The interview is over, bro. The interview is over. What the fuck?

49:37The time is doing it. Lupe says, made with it, bro. How do you feel about people who say that your new girlfriend looks like evil Lupe? Who says that? I've seen that in the comments. She looks like a younger Lupe. She's more of a gang-banged-out, younger Lupe. Okay, yeah. She does have the similar face to Lupe. If he's serious about her, I want to meet her. So he seems like he's serious. I haven't because I live out of state. So I've only contacted her. Right. And it's been very good conversations. Like I said, you know, I'll definitely have you meet her. Yeah. How does it feel seeing him become so open minded that he's willing to date someone who's technically from a rival hood, even though it's.

50:16I think love takes over. Yeah. And I think that shows what he really is about. You got to look at her. It's not like she's from Hoover or 5-1 troubles, you know. Okay. Or nothing out there. She's from another city that gets along with them. So it's a little different. It's not in the media, but it's still. You get what I'm saying? See, I think this is the beginning of what is going to be a long process of you opening up your mind. And I think one day we are going to see Crip Mac walking down the aisle arm in arm. With a Crip blue bandana suit. With a Hoover batty. Never. Never? No. Oh, man. You never know.

50:51You're going to get there. No. No. No. No. Now, that's crossing the line. That's too much. That's crossing the line. Love's not that powerful. Love is powerful. Love is never that powerful. Love is pretty powerful. Especially when they take your own voice from you. I was being sarcastic. Yeah, that's true. You can never date nobody from enemy. What about like a Texas Hoover? I don't give a fuck. It's all the same shit. Okay. It's all the same shit. I'm going to keep on trying. Keep trying. No, don't try. I'm going to find you love. he's gonna find you love okay so how did it feel for you as a mom to see him you know squabbling up with a bunch of different influencers on streams and stuff like that you know he had an epic battle with Dean the Great and then there was another guy who I actually met in Vegas recently I forget his name he walked right up to me George Yopalas oh yeah shout out to him yeah he follows me my champion he walked right up to me he said I'm the guy who knocked out Krip Mac I'm like ah I almost squared up with him I think it's good.

51:51I think that you're showing that you're flexible. Yeah, Giorgio Pallas. He definitely said. And you don't turn down faith. It doesn't matter if he's professional or not. But you're not a boxer. He's not trained like all these guys. Giorgio Pallas, he is a UFC fighter and a wrestler. Yeah, he was a nice guy. Shout out. Giorgio Pallas. Let me tell you something about Giorgio Pallas, though. He definitely gave me my respect. He said a lot of guys aren't going to fight him. Wasn't that the one on the pavement? were you guys what they were like fighting on the pavement backyard yeah I remember cringing thinking please don't fall baby bear please you know but yeah he fell but he got back up baby bear fell a little baby no definitely wait how do you feel because Remo was saying that he keeps like almost getting you lined up for fights and then you change your mind well Remo he likes to put shit in order how he puts shit in order but it's never enough or the money wise it's never enough money wise and you gotta go through so much and they don't give you enough time like nothing to go out there and just go out there and fight him up it's been training a million years a million years that's fair so you gotta get you gotta get the time to put shit in order right you know what i'm saying they're always trying to get lena to fight someone but then they're like oh it's it's in three weeks and and she's like, if I'm going to do it, I need six months.

53:16Not six months. At least 90 days. Sure, yeah. Three months. At least three months. Get some really good training in. At least, yeah, 90 days is cool. But they want you to do this shit within the next week or the next week. Hurry up. Right. Yeah, you're right. They've been training all this time knowing about it. Yeah, they know about it. And now they're in the back too. And you're all eating pizzas the night before. Hold on, but hold on. It's nothing like that because it's actually on a fucking pay-per-view. Oh. You get what I'm saying? You know it's on a pay-per-view. Well, it's really a stream on Brand Risk.

53:44So people don't have to pay for it, but it's a big deal. The question is, would you consider training to do any type of... Yeah, yeah. That would be fair. If the bag was big enough, yeah. Yeah. It has to. It's going to stop a lot of the day and a lot of the dollars coming in. Yeah. Unless it's bare-knuckle fighting. No, please don't do that. That shit is so brutal. You ever see that? I've seen it, yes. That's what it is in jail is bare-knuckle fighting. I know, but it's so gnarly when you actually watch it. It makes boxing look like no big deal in comparison when you really see that bare knuckle shit.

54:16It's what UFC did to boxing, basically. That's what jail is, is bare knuckle fighting. It's not boxing. Yeah, no. Jail fights are pretty gnarly as well when you see those on the gram. Yeah. Yeah. So you're still open-minded about fighting. It's just everything's got to be in the right order. You have to see how the training is. Yeah. And you would do it, wouldn't you? You would go hard. That's easy. If the man's not a snitch or a rival, yeah, most definitely. Would you commit to the training, though? Would you seriously? Yeah, yeah. All right. It depends how everything goes, because at any minute, another nigga from Hoover or Brims can find where I stay, and I got to get my money and get the fuck up out of there, and I got to keep moving.

54:54Yeah, I'm sure it's tough to live like that. So it has to make sense, yeah. Absolutely. Oh, yeah. Oh, man. So where were you hanging out with Blueface again? That's pretty cool seeing you guys become cool. I know. It's cool. It's cool. Well, I'm friends with his mom. Oh, are you? Yeah, I speak with you. She's a sweetheart. She's really nice. Yeah, Lil Snaps' cousin is from schoolyard, Crip Bodine. Okay. So Lil Snaps let Bodine and Blueface know, you know, Snoo I really am. I like seeing it. And now Blueface is like, he respects my Crip Crazy Cripping, and we've been putting things in order. Because you guys used to be viewing each other as ops, right?

55:29Well, until Lil Snaps, which is Bodine's cousin, let God know Snoo I really am from over there. So he officiated it. Most definitely. Ain't no faking no faking general rank. But is it? Okay. anybody set. Is it true that the neighborhoods and the schoolyards, it's not really a beef anymore? That they might be on good terms? I mean, it's not really going at it right now. A lot of the schoolyards, they cool with the Harlem. I feel like you and Blueface could help create a real deal alliance. We could make a lot of money, could we? Who's going to go against that? I feel like then the younger cats start to maybe be on good terms, right?

56:07No, no. Shout out Crip Face, Blue Face. You don't have that power, though? You can't tell the young goons to stand down? It's a lot of goons. They're going to listen or they're not going to listen. It's their choice in life. Neighborhood Crip is a very large group of people. They're going to listen or they're not going to listen. Right, definitely. What's the biggest difference between you and Blue Face as men? Oh, Blue Face is a man. I'm a man. Right. But is there anything that really stands out as different? What's different? stands apart. He's a great crit. You both like to drink and smoke a little bit, party a little.

56:43You both love girls. Different types of girls maybe. We love girls, coochies, and blues. Have you seen him do that? No, he talks to count it, so he's a great guy. You believe it, okay. He's a great guy. You both like to box? Yeah, when we miss time. He's a pretty fearsome boxer though. Yeah, he's trained well. Yeah, he trains well. He might have lost his last fight, but he's still a pretty damn good at it. He's more of a flyer type of guy. A flyer guy? He's a flyer type of crip type of guy. He's a cool guy. I've never heard that before. What's a flyer? He's a fly. Like fly. Like fly type of crip.

57:16He's a fly crip. Okay, got it. Whereas he's a tripper. And a chipper. Okay, I'm learning all this stuff. I don't know. So it's a little different. He's a respectable respect cripping. He could blend in. I'm a respectable crazy cripping. He could blend in with the normal people a little better. whereas with you, it's really like I'm a gangbanger flashing from the rooftop. A little bit more low-key. You think he's a little low-key? He's more low-key. He's cool, he's mellow, he's a fly type of Crip. Right, now I got the fly part. He's gonna stand on Cisnes, he's a cool Crip. He seems like a good person.

57:52I'm glad he's around him. Yeah, I f*** with Blueface, that's Cripface. Shout out Blueface. Cripface. That too. Say Cripface! I know blue is a win either way What's wrong with blue face? Blue face is the same thing You gotta see it I'm surprised to hear you correcting her Yeah well he does Right definitely Okay so do you still communicate with China Mac? Shout out China Mac Yeah I talk with China Mac He got me Mr. Snorrens and Mr. Garfield Wait but so he came out here for a couple days? Yeah we did McVentures He just hasn't came out yet Oh wow He's waiting. He's going to put out a little surprise.

58:31This guy is super busy. Yes. I can't even keep up with him. You guys, no, seriously, I watch him on TV just like everyone else does. Right. You know, to find out where he is. Because once he's someplace, he's moving to the next. He's doing it. I can't even keep up. So he's just, when big things come up, that's when we talk. You know, anything. But I watch. China Mac. Yeah, China Mac. So, yeah, Mac Ventures I saw just like everybody else did, the little preview. But so China Mac ran his ass back to Asia real quick there, huh? Is he scared or something? No, he's never scared. What did he have? Chinamack would fight you.

59:02He had something to do? Oh, I know he would. Chinamack's been fighting in prison his whole life. Buh, buh, buh. No, we're not. Asian courts in the street. I don't think they should fight. Nothing's worth fighting over. We're going to throw him in the grill and turn him into orange chicken. No, no, no. Wait, hold on. Just a great fight. Hold on, my piggy wanker came out. Oh, no. Screw it back in. But Chinamack, he can't afford to stay out here, right? Of course he can. No, I think that's why he's got to stay in Asia, right? Because he ain't got no money. No, China Mac has a lot of money. How's he getting money?

59:30I think he has a lot of projects going on. He has a lot of, what's it called? Promotion deals. There you go. China Mac will make some money. I don't think he can afford to move back to LA. It's in the right home. Nobody can afford to be in LA. My Airbnb was hell of expensive in Santa Monica. My Airbnb. Air CNC. Airbnb. I helped you pay five minutes. Air CNC. He did. My kind said did get the air CNC. I sure did. So I choose my battles, Adam. I mean, clearly I may seem like I'm just being outdone here by this guy. But, you know, like I said, it's that coddling, that love that I have for him that I understand.

1:00:14And, you know, mental illness is something that we deal with all the time. Do you think he was mentally ill? He was diagnosed. Okay. On top of that, when he was in military school, they did his IQ and it was 132. so he said higher that's insanely high so yeah and people make comments they're like oh he's on the spectrum everybody's on some level of like autism and stuff there has been times where he'll talk to me about things that i'm kind of shocked by i'm like man but i do the same thing so am i autistic i think we're all on a different level yeah i'd like to square off with you on an iq test a lot no that was one of the good things they did because i knew i was dealing with a really smart child i mean really smart i'll touch mama back right so that's not the question but you don't have mental illness like the type that he has like did no i i deal with depression no and then i also honey let me share this really quick okay just give me give me 30 seconds I also am in recovery.

1:01:20I'm a recovering alcoholic. I'm coming up on two years sobriety. I used to steal her all the news at the refrigerator when I was five years old. But the thing about it is, you know, dealing with him and knowing and having the compassion of being in the program and having, you know, groundedness and not drinking and trying to change how I feel. I see where he's going through and I have that compassion for him. And I just went a long way to say that I understand. I get it. Mr. Sibundi drinks Cudweiser Really? And Cudlight Sometimes Munchy drinks butt water Munchy peanut butter ass? Nope Oh my gosh Fake rumors No, no, no No, he drinks cut water But the blood version might be butt water Butt water I don't know if they would play around like that But Fuck Munchy Nah, you say that in a loving way though I hear the way you just said that There's nothing loving about You got love for him You got love for him Asshole struggle in a lot of ways.

1:02:15No, I didn't have peanut butter in my asshole. Neither did he. That's a fake news. No, that's real. That's real. Bring ODM Slim on the show. I have. He was here last time you were on. He'll tell you. Nah. You don't think so? Nah. He might. And also, sexual assault is nothing to joke about. Never. Oh, it's nothing to joke about? Whether it involves food products or not. Food products or not. He should have stood on his gangbanging a little more harder. He did everything he could. And that's a fake rumor. Fake news. Fake news. Crip Mac. See, your mom wants to say, hey, Crip Mac, maybe you shouldn't be making jokes about people being sexually assaulted with food products.

1:02:54I know. No, she didn't say that. I missed my cue. I missed the cue for that one. It's just all a skit. Munchie, we know it's a skit with your peanut butter ass. A skit, exactly. I'm just astounded by his behavior, typically, just like everyone else. But like I said, there's acceptance. And I'm going to love him regardless. you seem like you found a lot of peace yeah I had to and patience too because I'm a talker as well him and I are both type A personalities blah blah blah I'm type C type C personality so it takes a lot for me to pull back but I really want to hear the things he says and try to figure out she's going to ride motorcycles to the day she dies I'm a gangbanger what I can do to better myself as well would you become a motorcycle guy?

1:03:39No. Not your style? It's not for everyone. Why not? It's not my style. Do you think if you're riding a motorcycle, you might just kind of... Because sometimes you seem like you have uncontrollable motions. I wouldn't want to do it. The first time I rode a motorcycle was Will's. Remember, I was 22 years old. Yeah, shout out to Will's. He used to do handstands at Mama Bear's apartment. Yeah, he had a Honda Hurricane 1000. I was 21 years old, 22. And that thing was heavy. But that's when I fell in love with motorcycles. Yeah, I remember Will. I was two years old when I met Will. Right, yeah. I remember when I was young.

1:04:15I remember all mama bears, boyfriends when I was a baby. That's right. For sure. I was two. Will was so cool. He used to buy me all the toys and everything. Two years old. He was a nice guy. Shout out Will. Shout out Will. Where's Scott? You ever met him with Will? I have not. I have not. Well, shout out Will. Shout out to Will. He was a really nice guy. Okay. Has there ever been a time in which you felt like his lifestyle was potentially putting you in danger? No, but I had somebody point that out. And this person said that basically I may not be getting job opportunities if I'm connected with anything.

1:04:46I said, well, my son is my life, but he is not going to drive my life. So if people see that as being a determining factor for not hiring me or whatever, then I don't need to be there. I need to be true to myself. But I've only had positive interactions for the most part. People recognize me all the time. Most definitely. You can do a lot of great things. The bar helps people do different things. Right. And they'll see the bright lights. Yeah. And they love him. They always want to take a picture with me. And I know because he puts a positive vibe out there in a negative circumstance. He never commits suicide.

1:05:21And that touches a lot of people. That song goes through my head sometimes. I have low days. I have days when I don't feel 100%. And I'm like, man, what am I doing? Remember Julian and his low days? God bless Julian. Your son keeps you on track. Yeah, and the song just come out like things get rough. Don't give up. Don't take your own life, you know. And it's just, it's so easy to just think that you're hopeless. But to be able to hang in there, you know, that's inspiring. You know, he may be a goofball, but that was a powerful message. A goofball. Yeah, my goofball. No, it's true. Acceptance, acceptance, acceptance.

1:05:55What? With him. That's what you have to say like to yourself multiple times in this interview. A goofball. You got to accept him for what he is. I choose to he's a crazy mad ass crib yeah I choose him I'll choose him every time I really think this is a powerful portrait of like the of what it takes to be a mom to a character like this guy oh my god my heart is racing right now you have no idea it's just the anxiety of just wanting him to be okay yeah on a very mom level you know we want the best for our kids and when you see him going in a direction that you can't handle you step back you pray and you just watch And he let things happen the way they should.

1:06:35He's going to be just fine. Everything's going to see alright. Being a mom. Yes, it's tough. Everything's going to see alright. Everything's going to see alright. Everything's going to see alright. Everything, everything, everything, everything, everything. Going to see alright. But I did teach him the hustle, right? Working two or three jobs. He's always seen me. Yeah, get that money and make an impact. You got to make your dollar bills. And help other people. Help other people. Along the way. Get backed by the community. That's right. Wow. Because the incident that I was thinking when I asked about if his lifestyle ever impacted yours was when, because you ran into Job 5 in a restaurant.

1:07:19He was a very nice young man. He was very respectful. Respect 5. and yeah he gave really good props you know to my skills what I was doing because I was bartending at the time and I just remember the girls he were with they were they were so nice and well-dressed and well-spoken and I'm like is this the person that it can't be the same person but it was and I told him thank you you know for being a good person but he recognized you he recognized me okay yeah and he just said you're Krimax Marlon but then he was cool about it yeah and I said can I get a picture with you? Because I knew my son would not believe me.

1:07:53That's a nice op. And he was respectful. He said that's cool. He's mutual. It's a mutual respect. Yeah. I wish him the best. I really do. I really do. That's cute. Yeah. You got to love that. Yeah. It's the Japanese in them. But I love that they can get into that fight and then walk away and still have respect for each other. And, you know, people trying to say, oh, that's lame. and that's not good. No, that's people involving. No, a lot of people can't go through the LA County Jail. Right. They'll die. But I think that's part of the evolution for CMAC. Wait, but okay, now you and Blueface are real cool.

1:08:29Right. Jap 5 is on the Blueface tour that I went to the other day in Lancaster. Look at God. Is that, you can deal with that? You know, hey, some of my friends are going to be friends with other people. Hold on, hold on. You got to remember if you've seen some of the clips when Jap was saying what he was saying, Blueface wasn't saying anything. Blueface, he fucks with me also. So it's a mutual respect. Yeah, shout out Crip Face. I think it's carefully orchestrated. In Japanese 5, treating mama bear with respect. I definitely respect that. That is a factoid. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so what do you want to see Crip Mac do with his remaining years on Earth?

1:09:04Or even if we just narrowed it down to like - Only fans were Crip Mac's wife. What the hell? Her? No, that's what I'm doing. Oh, that's what you're going to do. Let me know when I can start.

1:09:17whoa okay so what i want to see you remember oh shit mama bear no babe listen remember the remember the cartoons you should do the animation and all that yeah i would love for you to get back into that and do some wastewater stuff right uh croaking equipment he scammed me out of all the money shout out croaking equipment so if you have a really good animation person you know because he has great characters and voices and things he does and but see a lot of those people they know you make dollars they'll try to overtax you and if they find somebody that don't have no platform they're charging fair so and that's why Spitfire and me don't deal with a lot of people well it happens that's the direction I like to see definitely voice over work and you know he's got some movie opportunities coming up and helping the next person like I said you know just really being helping the next person right you're going for another beer yeah what's going on oh Sprite oh my gosh you brought the whole obsession stand yeah I love Sprite obey your thirst yeah so yeah just to be a good person And I want to see him be happy.

1:10:13Most definitely. I am happy. I had a couple guys I wanted to shout out, if you didn't mind. I want to shout out Crow out of Ohio. We got a song coming out. Crow. Yeah. 23rd Street up 5 West Coast is our song. It released July 24th. And also Razor Sharp Carver Shop out of Cankersfield. That's my boy Bricks. Carver Bricks. Right. Razor sharp Carver shot. Wow. Yeah, we shot those great guys, huh? That's crazy, yeah. And then all the other people that want to shout us, they couldn't have fight it, so fuck them. But those two, shot those fucking blood. Okay. Crystal, anything else we need to know to understand this dynamic that you have with your son?

1:11:03She's going to drive motorcycles to the day she dies. I'm a gang-banging crypt to the day I die. This has been illuminating. Shout out Big Tradee. he's 60 years old he's still gangbanging but you're talking to him or what no no that's just most definitely i gotta hit him up again you gotta hit him up yeah i interviewed but we haven't done interview in a while yeah he'll do interview with you shout out big tradie and awesome dw flying right oh my cleaning lady that's your girl m-z-i-m-b-e-t-t-e-r thick cleaning lady oh she's a big old juicy chocolate booty huge shout out my great cleaning lady and her her book uncrank and also my party supply lady Nitchy underscore creations LA surrounding areas party supplies and Spiderloak's daughter is a beautiful world gripped by gin she does hair and also Spiderloak known custer hey kid we're not gonna disrespect Spiderloak I gotta do it he's a loak no he's a loak well let's also shout out Regina braids by Regina LA Vegas surrounding areas she does her thing.

1:12:11Oh yeah, she's in Vegas. I just found out. Lupe told me yesterday. She's in Vegas and she's in LA. We have to hit her up. We're not going to disrespect Spider-Loke on here. Shout out Spider-Loke. Shout out Spider-Loke. It's a beautiful world. Beautiful coaster. Okay, so what else do you want to let the people know about what this has all been like for you? Oh my gosh, nerve-wracking. I just didn't know what to expect as far as I don't know, I guess everything. when I have this child I thought it was just going to go the traditional route and for him to be such a big she's mid-sentence right here that's alright mama bear we have coach Warren shout out coach Warren as a respectful son shouldn't you let her finish her thought before you interrupt and start talking about some random shit Adam can you cut that I can't let's go mama bear let's go

1:13:04go ahead give me a second all right she's trying to think i think you upset her by interrupting here well my mind spins so fast i don't know if i get yeah i understand it's challenging and and this is the real face of of mental health and and people who you know really need help and i'm never going to give up on my son that's the bottom line and as hard as it is for me to get the words out right now i need him to know that i love him that i support him and we're going to get through this together if anybody else is struggling don't give up just hold on one more day hold on and gang bang to the day you die torture enemies to death and stand on this that's all i have straight the best straight program time five coach Warren Falcon Face my big homeboy Instagram at program time five get your clothes that's what I got there it is get a one if I get nothing like a mother's love yeah everything's gonna see all right amazing um Grip Mac Crystal oh last thing please shout out Winnie Stacks you really are in your own world over here well the great people acceptance adam trust me these tears aren't bad it's not negative no no no it's acceptance right when he stacks putting thanks and notified me with uh different shows like love and hip hop and stuff shout when he stacks out yeah i get it mm-hmm and josh from y and c oh josh shout out to josh yeah josh from y and c for sure i miss y and c yes crit mag and his mom on the podcast for the first time we made it through we made it through look how fast she bounces back it takes strength to be firm

1:15:02hey salute to her thank you so much being a great mom all these years it takes a lot of tolerance and acceptance to deal with someone as fried as you fried as you you better not just settle care of my mother okay I knew as soon as that was leaving my mouth I knew that I was going to have to break myself thank you Adam insane saying i appreciate you guys coming on here for all of my crypt max students out there this is hopefully showing you a lot more of what exactly it takes for this guy to have existed all these years but guilty you are a saint you are a classy broad idea i appreciate it thank you so much let's go out there and take a photo and uh yeah crypt mac crypt max mom crystal no jumper coolest podcast in the world.

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