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31:56About me. About me when I called him out for being a hypocrite and then he had to turn off the comments because everybody was agreeing with me. That's pretty bad. What made you apologize? Because I just took it too far when I was going off on him about being a hypocrite about the media conversation. I got so turnt up that I interjected the thing about the DP, which I don't say stuff like that. I don't like to make light of that kind of thing. Also, I could potentially take away from the rest of the points you made, which had validity, but then when you do that, it kind of – That was too much, yeah.

32:28I don't know what he said about it, but I felt bad about it. You know how you like – like you run and you score a touchdown, and then when you keep running, you run into that little wall. That's what you did. You already scored. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You like you won with the – Yeah, I already had a nice little performance there. So I had to take – You got a celebration pill? Yeah. You don't got to tee back the mascot after. And I said it wrong. I said you DP'd your own cousin. Then you went back and said – Then I had to change it. It was totally ruined it. Yeah, but that was extra. You already didn't accomplish the, you know what I'm saying?

32:56That was nicely put. It was like on some Brian Steele causing arguments type shit. But, but, but. I should be a lawyer. Nah, fuck that. I'll be gone, nigga. I'll be like, nigga, freebie. You don't think I'd be a good lawyer? I was actually, that was like some of the most, you apologizing unsolicited like that, I was taken aback. Whenever I apologize, you always got to be like, man, Adam, I was really hyped when you apologize. How many times have you apologized? Yeah. Infinite. That's crazy that the standard is so low. I'll do a top 20 times Adam apologize list. You won't be able to. Bang on YouTube.

33:27You won't be able to. You won't be able to get 20. No way. Our third party got pressed through the DM about something you said, and I brought it to your attention. I said, apologize. I apologize. What did I say? You said fuck God or some shit. Fuck God. What? Damn, that's crazy. I forgot. He said something. Bro, it's been so many months and so many episodes, but. So that's two. He don't remember. So many more. I apologize to House Phone. Three. How many of these apologies did you mean, though? I meant all of them, to a certain extent. Well, actually, I don't. Sometimes you're kind of thinking in the back of your head, like, man, I'm like 30 % sorry.

34:08Yeah. But I ain't the whole way. But I'm still saying I'm sorry. If you apologize because it's politically correct, it ain't a real apology. If you really feel apologetic, then it's a real apology. Did you feel heat behind that, though? because you teetering into grounds that don't involve you. You know what I mean? I don't really know what he said but yeah, that's why. It's not like I was worried that something was going to happen to me. I just felt bad about. I went outside of what I want to do, which I don't want to clown somebody for getting DP'd. I for sure in my head was like, here comes the lesson.

34:41If he's an op. The time has come. If I look down like an op, yeah, I'm going to clown you about getting DP'd, but if I look at you as somebody I'm in any way cool with, then I don't want to do that. No disrespect to that particular community but they invite so many people into their business. If you would have said the same thing you said right now about a different community, it hit different but they invite too many people into their business. For him to say that and then he feel some heat about it about the DP shit? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There would be zero heat, bro. They invite too many people into their business.

35:16But then the other thing is I misunderstood because you said that Spody had mentioned Adam. Right. And he didn't. And so this is like Adam jumped off the porch, and it was kind of unwarranted. To be fair. Wait, wait, wait. To be fair. Let me finish. And so it was unwarranted, and it was like hit dog hollers. You know what I mean? And so Adam is going in on Spody, and Spody never even directed it to Adam. and all that heat came towards me for no reason. I still don't recall him saying Senator Nobite, honestly. People were confused. I was referring to the Friday members only stream, not the Monday news stream.

35:58That's where I was on both of them. I don't recall it at all. I was there on Friday. Yeah, I was there as well. Oh, it was me and you. No, no. Oh, you're talking about the news on Friday? No, it was me, J-Hood, Spody. It was a week before. It was literally the week. It was me, Spody, J-Hood, and Munchie. Were you there too? Yeah, I'm always on Friday. Yeah, yeah, you were there too. You were there too. So you talking about two weeks ago? He was on Moose. That Friday, he was on Moose. Yes, correct. When we were talking about Moose's music and all that. And then Munchie was like, nah, you didn't say that.

36:29He didn't say Adam, and you corrected Munchie. Like, nah, he said Adam. Okay, so. He didn't say Adam, bro. Two things. Two things. Two things. Let's see. This has been discussed so many times now. Moose said he went through the Monday transcript and didn't say that. And then that Friday, the Friday closest to the Tuesday show, it wasn't said when it was me, you, Rios, and Spuddy Face. So you're saying it was a previous one when it was on Moosa by him being a North Day. No, it wasn't that one. What I was referring to, and because this is my recollection, and if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But my recollection was that first I brought up Adam's phone call with 4Xtra.

37:10or 4XR had hit Adam multiple times and was like trying to get a hold of him when Adam had sent the message about, hey, J-Hood told me that there's this rumor going around about a potential M investigation regarding you. And I was like, I don't think that Adam was intentionally trying to bring heat to you or imply that you were, that 4XR was guilty. Anybody would want to know that. Anybody would want to know the details of a potential investigation of such a lofty magnitude. And then I want to know about anytime anybody's asking. Correct. A hundred percent. That's what I was right. I would have hit him up to tell him about things are way less significant than that.

37:54And what's also important to note is that I didn't say anything on the Internet about J. Hood telling me that even until he actually got arrested for it. Yeah. That first video. Yeah. Now, I don't know if that takes... I think what I remember him saying was Adam's on some bullshit too. I don't want to talk about that, but Adam's be on some bullshit too. That's the phrase I remember him saying, which I've said several times. Now, also, even if he wasn't directly referring to Adam, Adam was doing the exact same shit that he was tripping on other people doing. No, Adam was reacting to the shit that people had done.

38:32Those people did their research and they did their work and they and so Spody was going in on them like you're covering and pulling shit and this and that Adam just pretty much rewatched this shit and just put added shit to it. Well that was one video I did where I basically like said a lot of the details from the rap news and street politics video about it but like the first video that I did was me basically just talking about the fact that he got arrested and then just including a few more details and sort of speculating on it or whatever either way i don't think that like as youtubers that we should be picking apart like the littlest details about like well i'm a good youtuber because i do this and you're bad because you you you said a rumor that you heard and i'm just working from the police report so therefore you said a rumor and that's bad and i'm good because i didn't do that it's like i don't buy into that shit i feel like we're all making content there is bad behavior that should be called out but people trying to like universally like blanket condemn people because they take part in things like saying a rumor that they don't know is 100 confirmed no see that's not what i'm talking about i'm talking about the fact that like the energy got shifted towards adam no i get that i get that was like kind of not the case you're right to a degree because that wasn't the primary targets he was mainly talking about rap news free politics and tony other guy yeah but he was mentioning um not feeling the salacious headlines not feeling the thumbnails was that part of the dialogue as well.

39:59Yeah, but guess what? You ain't gonna feel it when a kid close to home. Correct. No, no, no, no, no, no. Okay. Rap News, Street Politic just dropped, you know what I'm saying, with my ex-girlfriend, Lil Bro, he got killed at the tire shop, you know what I'm saying, with his two kids in the backseat. Oh my God. I didn't even watch that one because the title sounded so depressing. Yeah, but you know, he got the, he's a pretty boy, nigga, he fly, but he got the face tassin'. That's how he is out here. You know what I'm saying? He got the little... So is it like they thought he was a member and he just...

40:27Yeah, you know. Type shit. Right. He banged on him. He didn't believe him. Right. You looked the part. Whatever. However it went. But how he reported it, it's the facts. So I can't be mad at Rap News Street Politics. Rap News Street Politics because it's the fact. And I know for a fact that he do his homework and it be thinking off real documents and it ain't like, you know what I'm saying? It ain't nothing he pulled from the sky. an iCloud or something he went around the corner and hey what you know about this hey or it was on clubhouse gathering information but the whole thing is that like when you watch true crime body camera footage these documentaries that attempt to tell you about different killings and stuff like that i'm often left with the feeling of like yo this is unbelievably compelling content when i'm watching a father realizing that his daughter has been slaughtered in her in her bedroom and he's dropping to his knees and he's crying and the cop's body camera captures it and somebody puts in a documentary it's like on one hand this is crazy like i can't look away because this is like the most intense fucking footage i ever seen in my life but at the same time i can't help but feel like oh my god if that was me or if that was somebody in my family or whatever like wouldn't you be so upset about somebody making this video but they're playing by the rules you could fire you can file freedom of information requests and get this footage and you can't really judge the YouTubers who are doing it because it's commonplace now that's his prerogative that's his job and he's he doesn't have a direct relationship with anybody that I believe that we know of who we talk about rap news he's anonymous he's done a good job keeping his identity secret he's told me that he's kind of down to he's got a great whisper voice And so there's information that we have on somebody else that's not being talked about.

42:27It was being kept under wraps. How do we choose in between which ones that you do talk about? In reality, though, Rios, I didn't know. Did y 'all think that - You know what I'm talking about right now? I do. I do. I do know what you're talking about. Because why is that held with regard and close to the chest? And keeping that on the low - Well, I think what - Wait, what are you talking about? What's Vody was saying, though? No, what you talking about? The - The accident. The accident. Yeah. What accident? You're talking about the four-extra incident? No. Oh, wait. Talking about the - Motherfucker making us guess.

43:01No. The car accident. Poetic Federal. Oh. Oh. Oh. And why did that get held? You know what I mean? That's a good - That's a really interesting point. Why do we hold that information? That's an interesting point. Honestly, I didn't think it was newsworthy. Flacco tapped in maybe a week ago and said that he got in this car accident and - And I was not saying this so that you could say that right now. I was trying to keep it low. I don't think there's anything that needs to be secret about. And he gets in a car accident. It's basically like a car hits another car. And he gets hit by the car that got hit.

43:34And he sent a video to us of one of the cars on fire. It looked insane. And he was actually coming to do an interview before that. He was going to do an interview. But then he, I guess, hurt his wrist or something in that. His fat ass word about his wrist? Is he on his picnics? It's so soft. So your wrist stopped you from coming to the interview? I don't know. He had some kind of injury that made him not want to come. He needs to stay up out there. I didn't post about it because I just didn't even really think it was like that salacious. But then one of the people died. That's what I'm – So, I mean, I still don't really think it's that salacious.

44:07I think poetic flocko involved with a five-car pileup where somebody died. It's dudes. Yeah, I know. I mean – And that's what I'm saying is like – If he was at fault, if he hit the person, now we're talking. The way he told me was that he was just in the accident, but that he didn't really play a major role in it. Yeah, everybody fucking injured and went past away. Everybody can't stand that fool. I'm not talking for you. I don't want to talk for everybody, but he is the middle of a lot of shit. He's a very maligned figure currently. A maligned figure, and so that would make news. Because you could spin that how you spin the other thumbnails.

44:50fucking Flacco in a defy first body and it's on fire but you didn't choose to do that with Flacco you know what I mean you extended Flacco's certain grace at least seemingly so that you don't extend to a street dude and it's like do you devalue what they're going through versus what Flacco's going through if you came to me you wouldn't really no okay if you came to me and said it's hard for me to think of somebody that would actually make sense in this example. I don't know what's up, but I'm not going to use it because you recently spared somebody, but I don't... I mean, I spare people all the time.

45:26That's all I'm saying. There is stuff I know about that I'm posting about. Honestly, the Flocko thing, it never even crossed my mind to make a video about it because it wasn't until... My ex-girlfriend sucks a dick in his national headline. They even just said that Greedo, I guess, maybe got his chain snatched at one point and I told him, like, hey, don't post it. But there's way... I came in and broke that news, though. I've saved... And I didn't say it. And then at the end, I was like, I said it. Like, the degree of shit with the chain. No? You remember that shit? You said it on the show? No, no, no.

45:56I said it before, but I wasn't going to say his name and shit. And then at the end, you're like, who? And now I said who it was. I guess part of it is that, like, I don't think No Jumper always needs to be on the cutting edge of, like, shitting on. Or not shitting on because, like, a chain snatching is such, like, a, you know, it's like, is that real news? It's not. It's, like, different than somebody getting arrested for a murder. Also, in order to make the four extra titles salacious, you didn't have to do anything. You just had to say what happened. In order to make the Flacco thing salacious, you have to kind of lie in the title.

46:29Because if the title is just like Flacco got in a car accident and one of the people ended up dying a few days later or whatever, I mean, that's not really, I don't know. Poetic Flacco involved in fatal car crash, question mark. And that's a question mark for the title. You put him in a casket on the title, in the thumbnail, so it looks like he died. A big-ass casket. No, I put his belly on a steering wheel. That would be the thumbnail. That's what he would do. Was it in North Dakota or out here? Yes, sir. It was in North Dakota. Yeah, so how the fuck do you even get in an accident? There's like seven people that live in the whole state.

47:03I mean, they probably have legit amounts of gents areas. But what I'm just trying to say is there is discernment somewhere. Yeah, yeah, no, for sure. Somewhere there is discernment. Nobody would ever do that. Like, oh, I don't say everything about rappers or whatever, but I say stuff about this. And I was just trying to figure out what's the difference. Well, it's not like I'm breaking the news. It's in the news. But I think that you have more of an allegiance to Flacco than 4Xtra. I don't think it's across the board universal. 4Xtra did me dirty. That's how you feel? Maybe I do have a little something of resentment, but none that serious.

47:39I don't even want to get it. I think I might know what you're talking about. Well, well, well. He defriended me. I mean, he was pissed off after the way the fireworks thing was covered. He was super pissed off. Yeah, he should have been. Yeah. He was pissed off. Not because. But how did you cover that? I'm saying, well, what? Not with multiple people that are from communities that don't get along with his laughing. So I was supposed to change the whole show. I'm a regular host. protect his feelings i'll work here so yeah you think it's not going to come up no no no i don't think i did do come up munchie gets kicked off the show because forex blew his hand off that was that was what i would have had to do yeah it doesn't make sense you're absolutely right and per my recollection wasn't it the episode that king pill was on and king pill was actually he was already scheduled so it's like okay does king pill who was flying into town does he get his flight canceled like does he have to change his whole itinerary because someone else blew their hand off because he happened to not like no no i understand that pink pill is not them dudes i i think i think i've like painted the picture right there of like how i was being asked to be cautious with somebody's feelings who is literally like day-to-day obsessed with like beefing with people and i was like supposed to like really go out of my way to protect his feelings and i don't do that i think what in a perfect world what forex i don't think he would have gotten mad if when jokes were being made if you were like yo chill the fuck out that's the homie huh that's so good what you just said and what you just described is so fucking lame but i'm just saying like you serious i get it even i'm like that's not even it's not in the wrongsable yo munchie don't be talking about full extra like that dog yeah no literally that's my boy no i was just in the photos i was just i could talk like this all the time i was just in the photos like that's my boy I'm just saying in a perfect world, if you would have, yeah, I get that.

49:38But I'm saying, does that not make sense that he would want, he specifically said that, like he would want to be defended. I feel like the correlations is not lining up there. You know what I mean? Like what I'm trying to say. And why is that? Because he might not have been in a place to overstand the dynamics at play. And he thought Adam was more of a friend than what he was. There it is. Hold on, hold on. I want to move to that. But to an abusive, manipulative extent. Actually, yes. To an unfair extent. Actually, yes. To an unfair extent for sure. But you've already acknowledged. I was giving him wild passes.

50:16I didn't interview B. Braves at the height of his celebrity. Boom. For him. I was about to say. That's some fuck shit. Listen, King Peel was not a nothing like this is going to make a 40 Crip angry. Right. Until he went to the hood. He's not on their entree. They don't give a fuck about him like that. That was like this pissed him off, but whatever. But look, he showed, what's the word? Discernment. What exactly does that mean? I don't like to misuse words. Discretion. Yeah. Okay, discernment. on a couple occasions for a couple of people and I've been there and I watched it. Okay. He did it with the Stan G thing.

51:00You know what I'm saying? It took shit out of interviews, right? Okay. And then the B. Braves thing. B. Braves, he entered the internet via 4Xers, recapping the fight they had and became viral. And he was on the list probably to get an interview. He was. He was locked in. And he took him into consideration. Nah, I ain't gonna do it. 4Xers, my friend. Well, Forex had asked me not to. Okay, and then you already had it planned on the schedule to go to Pomona and go do the thing out there with King Peele. And I canceled that because they went to the 40s. You're not from the 40s. It don't have nothing to do with it.

51:37So they went to the 40s. I don't think it's a good idea. He went too far. So you took this man into consideration a lot of times. You know what I'm saying? Yes, yes, that is true. Think about this. let's say that Brandon Poo is on the podcast, Poo's cool, whatever Poo gets in a beef with Munchie all of a sudden they can't be around each other, they don't get along oh okay, whatever, I don't fucking care now Poo is going to Inglewood with his blower out going to Munchie's block talking about how you're going to turn Munchie into a pack alright, now I think at this point my relationship with you needs to change because I don't think that I should necessarily be encouraging the kind of behavior that realistically is going to get somebody smoked which that's kind of what it felt like at that time was like King Pill and G Uno were at the time it was alleged going to the role in 40s to shoot a diss song against 4Xtra and I just was like I don't think that's something that I want to really be endorsing also that was the end of the episode where he was turning up off the shrooms and like wound up low-key trying to get in your face after the pod?

52:47That was the same day. That wasn't turning up. How did you find out that they were doing that? That was misdirecting anger. It was all over the internet at the time. They were doing all the stories and shit, yeah. It was right after I went to New York with King Pell. What a weird little chapter in my life right there. But per Munchies, what you just said before that, though, all the incidents where Adam was extending him way more grace than he does to normal people, that's low-key conditioning for extra to have that expectation. I was like, it's a false sense of security or false sense of reality.

53:19Yes. I should have made my principles a little bit more clear earlier on. And you also yourself, Adam, have said that a lot of the dudes, particularly street guys, when they get put on, they latch on and they're like, oh my God, because it's life changing for some of these dudes. They haven't had someone that's putting that much money in their hand or giving them that much exposure. And they think that your friendship is a lot more solidified and deeper than you do. they don't know I've done this a lot of times before it might be the closest they've ever been to a white boy there you go everything that was just said take it in this might be the last time I'm glad y 'all said that right I ran across Vlad and Aries Spears asked him are we friends and Vlad said we friendly we're not friends but over the years if you had asked Vlad if he was friends with Aries Spears he would definitely have said yes i think that like once the friend once he sees them mistreat the friendship or the relationship from his perspective then it's like it forces him to kind of be a little bit more real and be like all right were we really friends like someone like vlad i'm very comfortable saying that i am friends with vlad we talk like on the phone or via text like a bunch of times per week like i feel like that qualifies as like actual friendship but you If you do a podcast with somebody once a month, yeah, you feel like you have a relationship, but if that's the only time that you talk, yeah, your relationship is entirely bent on the business.

54:49That's a coworker. Okay, okay, okay. Now, it's a two-part thing. I just want to point out, I see that Wack, he weaponized the word brother a lot. Right? My brother. He do an 80. He do it with you. He do it with academics. He did it with K-Slay. Anyone that's in a position of power. Yes. He weaponized the word brother. Right? And then... He's very like Doughboy in that way. It's just... It comes off less pathetic when he does it. No, no, no. It's more manipulative. It's more manipulative because he'll wait to you in an effed up situation where the world against you, he'll take a stance with you, and then now you owe him forever.

55:30Doughboy will take himself and put it under your wing. No, Doughboy should only come. like normally you take someone under your wing he put he'll come on i mean he's cuddling up i mean that's what he was doing at brandon that's what he's doing a munching but but but but i i don't know people need to uh you know identify who they who they uh podcast friends are they friends uh brother yeah because the line brother she ain't no no because people weaponize him yeah Yeah, and they're putting brother, like, if that's the case, you're basically saying he's putting brother on benefit. Like, it has to be beneficial and upward benefit.

56:12Essentially, you owe me now. No, it's like a closeness. Well, yeah. No, no, no, no, no. You're saying to what I'm saying because he weaponized it. Correct. Like, he'll wait to the world against you, and then he'll side with you. When the world against you. Remember when I did all this for you? Remember when I said you were my brother? against him. That's more than just saying I'm your brother. That's like actually having your back and helping you out. No, no, no. He wasn't. Look, look, look. All right, for instance, Adam, is this you in a car jacking off? Hey, I didn't ask you that back when they said this and this and this and this and this.

56:46Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's like, well, what the... Basically, like, puts you on notice of like, well, hey, I'm going to start talking about this shit you don't want to talk about. Well, all right. You keep asking about my dick being out. That's what what about. Same thing with Ag. Hey, Ag, wait. to take that stance when they said this about you back when the allegations. He weaponized it. That's real deal manipulation. Yes, because you're my brother. Yes. So, you know what I'm saying? He weaponized it, right? But in other people, they just, and then with the forexer thing, I think he forced the brother thing on you and you're like, all right, bro.

57:20Like, he forced it on you and you went with it. Yeah, yeah. He goes forced, and I'm watching all this shit and they think because a nigga Vision fucked up, I'm not recognizing everything. thing i'm like these niggas is crazy but you don't think i got perfect sense but wait you don't think adam saw benefit in that also though like there was like this dude is the most polarizing he always says it all the time this the biggest the biggest crypt the most polarizing crypt you don't think that there was benefit for adam to have that around for sure i needed i needed some stars i'm talking about niggas uh with like if you're looking at a person in a certain light and all that little shit man you don't look at this nigga adam like he uh a brother because he an opportunity he can help you out is that your bro for real?

58:04no that's what I'm saying a lot of you look at my brother my brother they're trying to forge a friendship by like stating it as being a friendship that is like already further along than it actually is but to be fair like he does that with people all the time Kevin Gates boom you meet him that's my brother yo you're my brother you're my brother it's like where we going brother I'm a pro we gonna fly here that nigga ain't going nowhere with you nigga Wack does the same thing all the time and he doesn't even need to use the word, that verbiage, brother. Like, he literally did the same shit with me.

58:33He tried to take credit for me 1 ,000%. Okay, you did it for him. No, no, listen, listen. He literally said, he literally was all like, like, oh, I'm the reason why you didn't get fired when you brought all the Crips to No Jumper with Travis Ford that one time. He said, I convinced Adam not to fire you and you have the audacity to talk about me in a bad way. I don't remember that. Yeah, it never happened. I heard him say that shit, but yeah does adam say that though no like in front of whack i never said that i don't think he did because there was my job was never in question at that moment it's not true it's not true it's not true but he did take credit for it you 1000 tried to take credit for it and try to manipulate me into feeling bad for mentioning the future incident and saying that when i didn't even like say whack was what i likened it to i i made the compare i agreed with the comparison to the munchie story that's it that was the only thing i did and he lost his fucking mind okay the thing with vlad and aries spears right like i feel like you have more of a likelihood of becoming vlad's op than you do his friend right right like so you can be around him doing all you want to do we're here with adam adam ain't your like i don't know what y 'all relationship is adam is a business owner that is has a platform that's beneficial to everybody right correct that's the relationship that's first and foremost vlad was telling uh airy spears and that other dude like i don't care about y 'all i don't care less about y 'all they have a business relationship we have a business relationship and even here like if you have some kind of mixed sense of what a friendship is adam is going to content like at this point it should be very transparent to everybody right like content is going to be content it's good content is keen Vlad had a bar Yeah and believe it or not There's all kinds of people in my life Who are not part of this circus And I intentionally keep them out And I'm not just talking about my girl And my fucking kid And obviously my girl's kind of part of the circus But like I have friends Like there are people I talk to Every day All day That I've never mentioned on this show Because They don't overlap With hip hop At all It just would be totally Irrelevant Like nobody would care So I don't mention them And you want a good part Mindalize your life to a degree Yeah and I think that's that's good because okay when i came in the game i hired all people that i was actually friends with house phone cam girl filmers etc and it went terribly in the long run and some of those relationships lasted years and they were good and everything but like ultimately the biggest factor was that i couldn't really like manage them or like get them to like work in the way that i wanted them to work because our friendship kind of made it so that they didn't take me seriously as somebody who was trying to like actually manage the platform and it was only once i started hiring people that i had never met before that we actually started really like moving like a real business yeah because business and friendships don't work well even then though but it's on the podcast they wanted to feel like we are friends and we are i think friends but like let's also be real we're all at really different places in our lives like when lush like i mean lush is sober now but like rewind the clock a couple months like what lush was doing on a friday night was just like so different than what i was doing on a friday night or what you guys were doing on friday night like we're friends but realistically most of the time our social lives are not going to overlap facts but okay but here's the thing when you first uh when you hired ad and t-rel you didn't know them but then you did wind up developing a genuine rapport that became a friendship there was talks of ad being the best man at your wedding and all that shit at one point like you guys were really close and i feel like after that but don't you think that's weird to be have somebody you meet them for a few years and they're your best man i mean not not necessarily it felt like a logical choice at the time honestly because he just talked about his friends i don't know was he my best man i don't think i got to the point of like choosing who exactly was going to be maybe it was individual i don't think i heard best man till like a week ago yeah i remember there being the copos on the pod he was he was getting suited and booted for the for the wedding yeah he was for sure flying to italy with his lady i think i i learned a lesson right there that I was taking that friendship to be something that it wasn't.

1:02:44Nah, I don't agree. I think it just went bad, bro. Yeah, it went bad because there are snakes. And they decided that they wanted to do something that was entirely self-interested that they always swore that they wouldn't do to me. And then as soon as it became clear to them that it would be advantageous for them to do that, they did that. Which is human nature, but also they're bad people. And I think most of the fans know that at this point. If you were in the same situation and had the same thought of what was going to happen, would you do the same thing? Of what? Go in your separate ways if you thought it was more beneficial for you to go your separate way.

1:03:17The thing is, is that... That's not what caused that, though. It is. That's exactly what happened, is that they realized that they could kind of come together and present this narrative that they were basically like, you know, being held down by this white man and that they would be able to build their own big platform. Unfortunately, it panned out that they were not able to build their own big platform and that they've done a pretty shitty job with like everything they've tried to do since then but i get it like they thought they overestimated their own abilities and they overestimated what the market was i already knew at that time that the market was shrinking and the podcasting was becoming extremely oversaturated they didn't know that so they thought like oh this is brilliant we're gonna dip off and it didn't work out so hold on so so let me ask so so if there's no less talking to whoever and ready ز Reed There is no everybody getting on.

1:04:09No, that's not true, though. You're actually trying to put this on me. No, no, no. I'm not putting it. Hold on, hold on, hold on. No, no, no. But that's not true. That's not true. Hold on, hold on. Can I just say. That's me watching from home. Right? Okay, can I tell you what happened? Because they all acknowledged that they all had already been planning it before that. So that felt like that was like a good jumping off point for them. But that was not like actually what caused it. That was the excuse that they used. Right. Because they don't act like you just, like the redheaded stepchild getting attacked.

1:04:39That's what it felt like. Bro, bro, I wasn't always at the fucking table. Right? Right. So, watching from home, it appeared that you was the beginning of that all. Beginning of it all because that's the complaint he came with. And then, boom. Just watching from home, nigga. Okay. And then, it seemed like T-Rail, his decision to leave was hard. and he was the last one to like... In between the rock and the hard play. But then he started talking way more shit than AD. After he shook. Because it got a reaction from the fans. AD, I will say, AD had a little bit more integrity in that because he didn't really start talking shit that bad until I kind of started popping it back.

1:05:24But T-Rell from the very beginning was putting all these shitty fake narratives on me and I had done nothing to him to justify that in any way. like a battered wife nigga what do you mean you reacted to that because because it was a traumatizing time because yeah like that that caused a lot of bullshit for me and the fact that i got blamed for a bunch of shit that wasn't my fault when there was a whole youtube whether when there is a okay so i'm not allowed to respond how i want to what the fuck is he like filibuster like him's on like man no this thing was so he's putting it all on me like a batter bro bro i literally said one sentence like you should let you gotta let lush i said half a sentence in matter of fact no that should that should did affect me and the fact that there was already a youtube channel created prior to him even being aware of the fact that he was getting kicked off the show that's the reality that's but oh it's the problem with that yeah i was gonna say what's wrong with shows that they were intending but at the same time like if i was gonna start a new youtube channel right now i might just use an existing yeah that so i don't know that could have been the case as well it could have been a pre-existing channel that was renamed unlikely but within the realm of possibility but the whole thing is what i was saying is if they they truly believe that that was the best opportunity that was that was the most beneficial thing for them if you're in a situation like here and if adam is in the same situation and you think that moving and doing this is the most beneficial thing for you and it's going to be and you truly believe that what's wrong with going that direction i believe nobody thinks there's anything wrong with that it's painting fake narratives and like acting as if you have a grievance with the person whose platform you're leaving even though you don't actually have any reason to have a grievance but like inventing one because there's an appetite for it from the fans i would like to present feeding the hunger of the fans basically yeah the fans want you to hate on the person whose platform you left so you're going to basically fill that gap to me that is like the opposite of integrity That's you showing that you have no backbone and you'll make content about whatever as long as it's going to sell.

1:07:26But this is the thing. Okay. I believe that we are living in a new age of intellectualism within hip hop. And I'm going to explain to you guys why. Oh, that's a good one. Me and Spody Face, that argument that we had, I'm not supposed to win that argument. Identity wise, he's supposed to win that because he's black. He's from the hood. He did 10 years in prison. all these different factors that like I feel like in prior generations of hip-hop discourse I had frequently been let down by watching the people judging situations and like really kind of just choosing who was right or wrong based on the identity of the person or who was a more endearing character and I feel like when I look at that Spotify situation when I look at the fact that Vlad is on this bizarre run of like defeating Boosie, Aries Spears, et cetera, Nori.

1:08:21I just feel like we're kind of like entering into a new world where the fans on average are able to really look at arguments that are taking place and be able to have an honest appreciation for who's winning. And I don't feel like I got a fair shake in 2023 when those dudes left the platform. I think I was just smeared as being like the fucking slave master or whatever. And I feel like that was a anti-intellectual moment for podcasting as a whole. Of course, when I was attacked, that was an anti-intellectual moment. But I did feel like it was so about identity that it got lost, that there was never any real gripe on behalf of them.

1:09:03And as time went by, I started to see that sentiment become much, much more common with the fans. And I feel like in 2023, the dialogue or the discourse just had not progressed enough at that time. You know the difference between... There's my thesis. 2026 and then you, 2023, you was more on a defense and then fast forward now. Offense. Offense. Yeah. That's the difference. And then 2023, everything that was playing out on camera, and then we're not really getting the full gist of things. Like I just explained how it appeared to the general public on how everything unfolded. Then Vlad, he's writing all three of them with Nori, Ares, and Boosie.

1:09:57To me, in all those situations, Vlad is pretty clearly in the right. What Nori did to Vlad was lame. What Ares Spears did to Vlad was lame. And what Boosie did to Vlad was lame. No, no, no, no. But it's easy to understand how in another generation or another world, like where they would be the ones who are getting their side believed. Anyway, like when, when, when, when Nori says, Vlad, you are culture vulture and you don't give a fuck about the people that you interview on blah, blah, blah. 10 years ago, that was a killer argument. That was a viral argument. Now nobody gives a fuck. To be fair, that's a corporation.

1:10:30That's not an individual person on the planet. Like it's way more individualistic and it's way more easy to pick sides versus a big platform, a channel, a TV station, a news station. Now Vlad is just Vlad. And it's like me versus you. But this is after decades of artists who are predominantly minorities being exploited by the industry, which is run by predominantly white people. This is on the heels of Jerry Heller and all that shit. So that's why there's this sentiment, and that's why the reaction normally is that crass. You're always trying to justify some bullshit. Right is right, wrong is wrong, and yeah, okay, there's been racism in the past.

1:11:11It's not a justification. It's an explanation. I am not responsible for the sins of my father, and I'm not responsible for whatever some evil white dude did 40 years ago. It has nothing to do with that. No, for sure, but that's the explanation. Just sticking on Vlad, I think that talk should have been had with Boosie instead of Aries Spears, and only because I think Boosie, he didn't mean no malice. He just misinformed. It ain't like he's a content creator. or he's a rapper. You know what I'm saying? So if they would have had the same talk that Aerie Spears had, it would have been way better. Okay, but when Vlad had the conversation with Boosie, Boosie basically asked him for more money, and then Vlad said, I don't think we're going to be able to necessarily do that, and Boosie hung up on him.

1:11:54This is a person that's done like 40 interviews together. They had a business relationship for like 10 years, and he just hung up on him. And it's not like Vlad completely cut off the relationship because of that. I think Vlad was still open to working together, but I understand why he was offended. No, no, no, no, but I'm saying like Boosie was misinformed. Aries just think he's Eddie Murphy. Yeah, yeah. But Boosie wasn't misinformed. He was just like overstating his value. As was Aries, though. It's the spoiled son trying to go at the dad that's been giving you money. Yeah. And it's like when you're the benefit of the benefactor and you're arguing up, you know what I mean?

1:12:32Like, dude, I fed your ass. Like, you know, I'm the one giving you money. You know what I mean? No, for sure. You need me more than I need you. I can find another. Okay, go on. No, Aries had a lot of big moments and big clips, but not compared to Boosie. No, no, no, no. The thing is, I said Boosie deserved that sit down versus Aries because Boosie was missed a form based on he's not a content creator and he wasn't saying that I'm bigger than life. You owe me this. he thinking that he he not understanding how the content should go and monetizing wise and you curse every other word and everything might not be green you know i'm saying it might be yellow yellow the world don't know but like you know i'm saying so limited with the monetization he might not get all his money back he not understanding that bro he he do uh short films and he do music.

1:13:31Now this dude, he's showing them comments. Look, they rocked me in the comments. They said they only subscribed because of me. This is what Aries doing. Yeah, that was a ridiculous argument. Everybody got commenters that rocked me. Yeah, exactly. Ridiculous argument. But to convince yourself that that's like the majority of Vlad's viewers, and it's not like, you know, like a lot of Vlad fans were like watching the Boosie clips. I know I was. But to act like that's everybody is like pretty funny. But yeah, I mean, like, but the thing about it, Aries just like fucked up a good opportunity. the eye going he looks like a bad person and everybody seems like they kind of agree with that and i just feel like i'm more consistently seeing people win arguments or be perceived as winning arguments regardless of their identity class and that makes me feel like hip-hop is is growing well they keep using redundant arguments they keep using the same redundant argument oh this oh that is like vlad is like yeah okay i am that yeah who gives a fuck you know what i mean like i I already told everybody who I am.

1:14:28And I survived it. I'm going to survive this. Now hurry up and bring your fat ass on my platform. Because you owe me one. Because I came here for free. Now you owe me on my podcast. Hold on, hold on, hold on. What you referring to? Harry Spears has to go on his own. No, no, that's what they agreed to in the beginning. You come on Mars and you come on your... Did you watch it? Huh? This is the new one. Did you watch it? Did you watch the Aries and Lucy sit down? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or excuse me, Vlad sit down? No, no, no, Aries and Vlad. Yeah, yeah. That was a great watch. And the really, okay, I felt like Ares looked like an entitled brat during the whole thing.

1:15:02Like a spoiled son. He was just yelling and moaning and complaining and shit. But the most brutal truth is the fact that when Vlad said that Ares doesn't book black openers for his comedy tours, and Ares got so mad about that. I think Ares actually brought that up. Like, he had that in the tuck. this is this thing that you've been saying about me that I don't book black openers on my comedy tours and Aries was furious he was so mad about that and in Vlad's reaction video that he posted yesterday he includes a clip of Aries Spears on Vlad TV with another guy not with Vlad where he says that when he books his tours he does not like booking black openers because he doesn't because black he really like uses a bunch of racial stereotypes and says black comedians just talk about black shit and white shit.

1:15:54And so when I book my tours, I want to put people of other races so that I'm not basically... So it's more universal. It does make sense because Aries coming out as the last guy and him kind of feeling like the black comedians are going to do material that's like sort of similar to his. And if it's like an Asian guy and a white guy before him that like, he'll just seem like so black. And so it's such an interesting black guy. We haven't seen a black guy on stage all night. I get it. It does make sense. But the fact that he denied it so angrily on that episode of the podcast and then the clip comes out of him completely admitting it is like mind blowing.

1:16:31And not only that, his cameraman and then his right hand man, I don't know his name, he's white also. All he do is surround himself with whites. But it's easy to come behind white comedians. But he also goes to white comedy clubs. But his comedy clubs are mostly white comedy clubs in places where. That's what he says. He says, I don't want to do comedy tours that look like the Def Jam comedy jam. Would you say he caters to a white audience? Yeah. List four comedians that could open up before him and he come out and he do his thing behind them. You can't name four comedians. Because they're better than him.

1:17:09Bro, because you could do that. Mojo better than him for sure. I can name a lot of white comedians that'll blow them off stage easily this Tony do that dope boy Tony's trash I don't like it Tony's stand up is one of the worst the dopest white comedians are actors Bill Burr is a fire white comedian turned actor like I said the dopest white comedians are actors and then even Gary Owens but Gary Owens crowd he's essentially black Gary Owens is Moose Man I'm more just taken aback by the hypocrisy or I guess like the inability to remember what he said on camera like five years ago because that was just pretty astonishing.

1:17:59I think he was just mad it was getting weaponized that's what it was. No he forgot because he asked me who said that? He told him two people that said it and then he said you know who else said it? you said it yeah that's crazy though that have such a bad memory that he doesn't remember and i feel like i'm victim of that all the time on here where i don't remember bro 50 i think you bring up intellect like the intellectual right like i feel now that what's going on is you guys are and i'm i hate to say you guys i'm not even talking about white people i'm talking about the people with platforms are more unapologetic today than you used to be you You know what I mean?

1:18:38Like you guys used to cower and try to avoid and this and that because you didn't want a bad stigma. Or it to look like now is more so like, fuck, I don't have to cower. I don't have to be scared. Because I think Vlad didn't want to beef with anyone for quite a while after he went through the whole thing where he says shit about Minister Farrakhan and then Lord Jamar and Godfrey got pissed off about it. And that created like kind of an exodus from Vlad TV at that time. they might have lost like he apologized less than 10 yeah he did but it took him like four years or some shit like you know so that that was i think that after that you saw vlad just go into interview mode he wasn't really trying to make himself like a key part of the narrative for a while and then like in recent times he's started to get a lot more emboldened because he realized like oh i can just like publicly beef with my guests and make my own videos talking about it and people will actually be hyped on it joe budden hated vlad for the longest time and even even going back further like one of the things that wound up being the original big surplus of funding in vlad's career was the whole rick ross thing and a large like 200k i mean yeah but that was that was kind of a big deal though and and a lot of people at the time were kind of on rick ross's side yeah even though do people know why he even got attacked what you mean on this side because he because he reported on him okay a ceo picture that situation happened now where vlad or somebody like vlad even if it's just some streamer who's like not that popular or whatever and a rapper on the level of a rick ross who in this modern age would be like i don't know a fucking young boy or something he was a big star he was he was huge at that time you're right yeah i mean i just think that if young boy sent all his homies to crack vlad over the head with a fucking champagne bottle and beat his ass number one we would see 80 different angles of it so it would be like way bigger news way crazier but then also i don't think well okay young boy is maybe like the one person who i could see getting a lot of sympathy just because people love him so much and think he's like fucked up but they like him anyway but but generally speaking i think it would be a very bad look and vlad would get a lot of sympathy and the you know ak would be breaking the footage down ak would have to be honest and say i think that they were tweaking you can't do that to somebody like, Vlad, that's fucked up.

1:20:58You know, the guys would get arrested the next day. It would be, it just wouldn't go down like the way that it went down 15 years ago or whatever. What year was that? I was about to say. 08, I believe. Yeah, 08 is. Hey, you said they had sympathy because he broke that he used to be a CO? I think that's why they were pissed. At that time, Vlad was pretty much like enemy number one in hip hop. Honestly, that was so long ago that I almost feel like Vlad wasn't that big of a name. He wasn't. That's kind of why Vlad's made a lot of his platform was built on that funding. It wasn't until you know like the early 2010s 2013, 14, 15 when Vlad's channel I think really started to get going but like 2008 he didn't even have a YouTube channel yet I'm pretty sure.

1:21:39That was early Vlad TV He's still a mixtape DJ and then a website and the website was a big deal at the time because it was like a world star competitor VladTV.com When did Wendy Williams get sick? When did she get sick? When did she fall off? When did she fall off? Because I feel like maybe when she fell off, a lot of motherfuckers popped up. She was still really popular in like 2012, 2013 for sure. It was after that. She was actually at her peak around that time. I think Rick Ross is corny. I would have never been team Rick Ross because, you know what I'm saying, or against Vlad because he outed that about a nigga being a CO trying to pose as a dub dealer and misleading people.

1:22:21Yeah, I don't think Vlad did anything wrong by reporting on that. But look at how much shit that Vlad took back in the day for doing things that other people weren't willing to do. Correct. Like the fact that he was, you know, hyping up. Or he posted the video of Ransom going to Joe Budden's house, right? And slapping him? Or did he slap his homie? It was homie's house. Either way, like that video was out there and people would have known about it. But Vlad was like the platform that was actually really willing to post. I guess Worldstar probably posted it and shit too. But Vlad really. That's why Joe Budden hated him for a long time.

1:22:51And then also. And then the Rick Ross thing. Like that's something that getting shot. Maybe. Yeah. Maybe other people weren't willing to like post about that shit. But Vlad, to his credit, Vlad has always kind of like known what the game was going to turn into ahead of time. So like he knew that the stuff that he was doing in 2008, if you fast forward the clock, 15 years would become normal. But the problem is, is that when you're the first one through the wall, you take all of the heat and all of the damage. And then everybody else is allowed to come through afterwards. And nobody really like looks at Flock or Ross or Jake.

1:23:21I mean, all of those people kind of have a stank on their name because they all do various versions of like telling from the average. You couldn't hide behind the veil of it's just content. You couldn't at that time. Nobody, nobody had thought of that yet. Correct. But that's why I brought up Wendy Williams, because she was going after Diddy and they hated her. He was going to have. That was a time where you get fired from your job. They hate her. And she was doing more shit. I remember she reported on things that really didn't need to be discussed. like method man's wife had cancer things like that she got cancer right I thought she had some mental thing going on but I bring that up to say that Vlad wasn't the first he's not the her and Charlamagne were on some fucked up shit but he was amongst the first in independent media she was remember she comes from radio she had a TV show she literally is in the same vein She was a gossip columnist in the same, but doing the same thing, essentially Angie Martinez and all them were doing.

1:24:27But she was like taking it way further. So do you think it could be white man can't jump effect? Because it's a white person doing it. I mean, but what but white man can't jump effect is low key. Oh, this person is getting more grace as a result. No, no, she's not. But I'm saying she was she was a radio person. Correct. One thousand percent. You're right. but they were both radio personalities she just leaned more into the gossip than someone like angie martinez who kind of avoided it um all those people like a big boy wasn't really like that uh sway wasn't really like that they weren't leaning into controversial content but when they would have controversial moments it'd be the result of someone else turning up because you're basically like the go between between the artists who basically like allow the station that you're on to prosper and then the business execs who basically are going to look at you like a total liability if you're the one creating all kinds of commotion and when you're just a guy with a job that you want to hold on to your incentives are to keep the job not to like constantly be pushing the envelope like flocco would be a terrible employee at a radio station because flocco would want to go on the radio and like talk about some like accusation that was coming out about somebody before it was even proven or whatever you know it's like if flocco wanted to work at a radio You kind of got to keep your head down do like an okay job, but don't draw too much attention to yourself Because you're handcuffed you got one hot hand tied behind your back But and now at this point more people are tuned in alternative media than they are mainstream outlets Yeah, for sure and that by a significant margin We all have conversations that are kind of on the same level because we're all fighting To be the person getting attention on YouTube tick-tock Instagram slash Twitter that day, you know, where do you think most people?

1:26:12realistically would rather work a platform like no jumper or have their own show on sirius xm oh freedom of a platform like no joke yeah you're invisible on sir 1000 unfortunately it's the illusion of stature but it doesn't really hit the same oh that depends on who you ask yeah it depends i think because what do you want payment do you want payment or do you want visibility like there's there's different values of like of game right like monetized game like what do you value what do you want out of it do you want visibility i don't think they get paid i don't think in general they get paid as much either it's a little bit of a prestige play because if you get a job at a radio station then like you know i see it with bootleg kev where like he he kind of like quit the radio thing but then still has a relationship with him because they syndicate his shit but he's able to like use that to get more guests that then end up coming to his platform he formed tons of relationships i see him all the time on his story at these big iheart music radio things and i see him fraternizing with all these different celebrities and then like big guests and then once in a while i see those people come to his podcast it makes sense so there's the value of the radio thing but i mean just in general it's like i feel like people get into those sort of situations in this day and age and they they sort of like enjoy it but then ultimately they're like this isn't really doing that much for me like the prestige of like being a part of like a tmz or a Complex or whatever in this day and age, it's really waned a lot.

1:27:39Whereas 2016, anybody who got a show on Complex, you were a big deal. That was a big deal. MTV before that, anyone who had a show on that, you're a big deal. Everyday struggle. Wait, wait, fuck though. But look at Jason Lee on BET. Sure. That shit is doing numbers. You know what I mean? People are watching Jason Lee for sure. Right, but I feel I would argue that that's more Owens. That's more on the heels of Jason Lee being Jason Lee than it is him being on BET. Yeah, the important thing is that BET could not build their own Jason Lee. Correct. It would be literally impossible because if they tried, no matter how good of an effort they put forth, that person would eventually be better off just doing their own thing.

1:28:20But Jason Lee fucked with BET because it's BET though. Yeah, that's a prestige play for him too. But also maybe it just makes sense because he interviewed, I've seen the difference because me and Leno went a couple years ago and did an interview right after the Jason Love saga. And that was being produced in the same spot, but it was for his own channel. And now it's for BET, which from my perspective, kind of the same, but they're doing things a little bit differently. But isn't that by a significant margin, like the show over there that has the most traction, has the most - That we would know of probably because most of the shows that aren't like internet first, we don't even think of them.

1:28:55They're like, okay, Desus and Mira. I ain't never seen that shit. because it wasn't on fucking line. Like it was like the only time I actually saw a clip of it was when they were beefing with academics. I only used to watch it when it was on HBO. Right. And I didn't have HBO or I wasn't thinking about it. Like, cause I used to watch it on HBO. Like that's before I knew like, oh, this is, but now Mero has a radio job at 97 and the views from what I hear from Danny from the stop are not good. And the other dude is with Carmelo. I don't even know what he's doing. Yeah. Yeah. He's, he's got a podcast with Carmelo.

1:29:26I mean, and as far as like Hot 97 and the major New York radio stations, the only somewhat relevant show that I can think of right now that even came from that world is Breakfast Club. Who have been like significantly suppressed by the Netflix deal. Yeah, a shadow of their former selves. We don't hear about them like that. They should pay Clippers. Would you, Adam, take a deal from a big company like Netflix, even if you knew it was going to water down your platform significantly? No, I would not do that, but I will tell you what I would take. These nuts. I would take a moment to speak about Clavicular being arrested because that was a boring topic.

1:30:07No offense. But so Clavicular has been arrested or physically served with an arrest warrant. Oh, he's not been arrested or physically served with an arrest warrant, but he is scheduled for arraignment on October 14, 2026. Let's break down his charges. The criminal complaint includes three specific counts. Keep in mind, clavicular was here just the other day. Isn't it kind of scary? That's your boy boy. We could have got diddled. Yeah. You're cursed, man. You be cursing people, dude. You think? Look, even my white homies get charges after they come here. They can't even shake your hand. But not for killing.

1:30:36Just for diddling. That's the one that be hitting himself with a hammer? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Luke's maxing. Okay. So he's currently facing a potential maximum penalty of up to 20 years in prison for rape. also he's been in charge with drugging a person for sexual intercourse and also procuring and providing liquor to a person under 21 so basically the influencer the accuser is an influencer named alexandra mendoza who goes by alora ziva online she was 17 years old at the time of the alleged incident which i have been informed is not part of the problem because that age is legal in massachusetts that's within they have one of those under 18 consent laws right and also he would only be 20 so i mean i don't think that charge would be all that uh interesting to people in the first place the legal agent consent probably 16 out there she told him she there's clips of her saying she's 18 and he said he was 19 anyway right i believe so right so she lied about her age but that's not actually part of this because she was of age in massachusetts in the first place and then he was like only a couple years old right but like yeah but just in general it's not a case but getting liquor and giving it to a person under 21 is a crime and drugging a person for sexual intercourse also a crime although like you know the the accusation to me is pretty like poorly sourced but basically mendoza initially communicated with clav on instagram he allegedly paid for an uber to bring her to his parents home in chatham massachusetts how am i right now realizing that he's from massachusetts i didn't i didn't know that i did not know that how the fuck did i miss that there's a floor digit under the premise of helping her social media career by featuring her on live streams the incident court documents state that peters pressured her to drink vodka on a live stream while instructing her to tell the camera that she was 18 and that the alcohol was water.

1:32:41Mendoza reported to the police that she became heavily intoxicated and was raped while unwilling to give consent. These criminal charges closely mirror a civil lawsuit for sexual battery fraud and emotional distress that Mendoza filed against Peters earlier in 2026. So basically, she decided to come forward with these accusations earlier in 2026 now these are the legal charges the criminal charges associated with her lawsuit and obviously these charges existing really helped to like give her lawsuit additional credibility

1:33:18oh the drugging yeah which was on stream right so while they're on stream which is actually very similar to what happened when i was on stream with him where i ended up injecting uh some kind mystery chemical into my penis um she she was willing to be injected with some sort of peptide that i guess i don't know makes your cheeks more plump or something like that and so he was doing that to her on the stream which i'm sure if you saw the clip it's just going to be him saying like oh this is cool like try it out this is kind of like botox or whatever like i don't think that like drugging like it's not like that that that injection is going to have any uh impact You explain to me what is a peptide?

1:34:00Collagen or some shit. A peptide is like, well, okay, like the GLP ones like Ozempic, those are a peptide. They have peptides that help with your weight loss, with building muscle, with recovering from hard workouts. Yeah, tanning. They have peptides for that. I never really heard of like a peptide that you inject it into your face. Because that's the thing. If you're using it for what it's not intended for, you know what I mean? There's that too. If you're not using it for what it's intended for, you change the chemical compound or something. So Clavicular claims that he's super educated on everything he's putting in his body.

1:34:36And that's how he's able to sustain the lifestyle he is. But I saw. Okay, it's called Aqualix, which is an unapproved fat dissolving compound into her face during a live stream. Yeah. And it says that the procedure was performed without proper authorization. and outlines claims regarding the nature of the substance, which everybody who does anything with peptides knows that they're taking part in something that is not medically co-signed by the establishment. So we all kind of know that, but I'm sure Clive never thought for a second as like a 19-year-old or whatever he was at the time that he was going to be doing something that could be used against him.

1:35:16Well, according to TMZ, what happened was she woke up, was asleep and woke up to him on top of her. Banging her, yeah. Yeah. have you ever had a sex order before that night that was it yeah and so okay we actually have his response as well here uh clavicular speaks out after being charged with rape trying to get my attention in any way possible really petty of you which it is it's kind of cool that like he has like the trump playbook on deck you get accused of some horrific shit you immediately turn it into like this is a campaign against men they do this to every successful man which is like a very compelling argument because we do all see it take place all the time you know but andrew tate utilized that when i first got canceled in 2018 i didn't quite know that playbook yet which would have served you well potentially yeah you gotta like just basically claim that you're the victim of like a time you've been canceled really like two major ones

1:36:18That's the really only truth. Why is it so funny that I've been canceled? Who the fuck cares? But the first time? Multiple cancelizations. Yeah, and then you said how many? I said two. Wow, that really bolsters your point. That's how you tried to get it together. I didn't hear you. We're getting drunk much, you know. I'm starting to realize what this podcast is going to be about. No, it's just funny. The first time I've been canceled, whatever, man. I mean, I would say most people who have been canceled once have been canceled multiple times. You haven't made it until they've tried to cancel you, dude.

1:36:43In many ways, that is true. Yeah. Yeah. I remember academics saying that to me before I first got canceled. he was like you're not really famous until there's people who really hate you and i remember thinking like damn i don't feel like anybody really hates me now i really got to like learn yeah yeah i really i got to figure that out for myself do you feel like you were more famous than ak at that time arguably we probably like what year it's like 2018 2017 2018 it was probably pretty close together yeah i get you're right though everyday struggle was no no no no like like like i had it because he was sitting next to a nigga that was like you know what I'm saying?

1:37:17Aqua was a big deal at that time. But we would probably be like pretty close together at that time. Alright. So okay. This is. Is this a video? No. Okay. There is a video though. Okay. So this is the girl. Not dating Clav. Just did a little stream together where he injected Aqualix. It was really fun. Super nice. Send me an Uber home right after. And what else? And this is the problem though. is that she signed up to do everything that she did. She lied about her age, but then after the fact, because he wasn't diligent enough in checking her ID, now he gets charges. He gets a huge civil lawsuit, et cetera.

1:37:55So, like, this is, like, the number one thing. As a male public figure that you have to avoid because she'd be able to basically do the same thing if she wasn't young, but it makes it, like, so much worse. Are we talking about the liquor or are we talking about the shot? Yeah, the liquor and the shot, since it's, like, she's basically being accused of... He's being accused of like drugging a minor. So even at 18, she would have been under the thing anyway. But yeah, that's a good point though. I don't even think there's any age where like you wouldn't be able to be sued for injecting somebody with a peptide without the proper precautions.

1:38:27You know, that is a good point. Not dating Clav. Especially if you're in a position of power. You want to put the hips on? Let's see. We'll stream together where he injected Aqualix. It was really fun. Oh, that's just replaying it. Super nice. okay so yeah she messaged him trying to work as a bottle girl at the club that he was the owner of he said how about don't finance cars you can't afford it happens to all the successful young men people try to come for your money greed is evil this is okay this is the clip of her wait she looks so different in this clip she's 16 absolutely not wait you're 16 no No.

1:39:06How old are you? 18. Okay, good. How old are you? I'm 19. He lies about his age a lot, too. It's hard to know what the fuck. They both don't look the same. But I do think he's 19 here because he looks so different. He's all buff and shit here. He's not hammering his face yet. Right now. He probably was doing it because look how red and rosy his cheeks were. That's for sure early looks, Max and Clev, if anything. Before he really figured it out. I mean, is anyone at this table actually surprised that this dude that literally brags about getting coked out of his face and drunk every single night and goes to the club where there's like 50 bitches lined up is anyone surprised that there's an element of sexual misconduct potentially this was before he was doing the partying stuff you know because like yeah i i do agree with you that like all the shit that he's been doing on stream is like super scary super problematic if you're if you're a streamer and your whole thing is that you hang out with a bunch of drunk girls all the time and you have sex with some of them your days are numbered like just let's just make that perfectly clear like they might not get you for a couple months but for sure at some point if your whole thing is letting crazy ass chicks come to your big ass mansion and get wasted it's just a matter of time weren't you even kind of taken aback per my recollection like by like how crazy it was yeah yeah we're like we're at his house his team goes out and gets hella girls from like a day club by just saying hey do you want to go to clavicus's house they say yes they throw 20 girls in a sprinter all the girls come to the house he doesn't even give a fuck he don't even go over and talk to him he's like whispering to me about how fucking fat some of them are like and then they all hang out they all get drunk they're they're some of them are injecting peptides and stuff some of them for sure are doing drugs i don't really know but then we go to the club more drugs are getting done more drinking is taking place i probably left at like two in the morning so i didn't really see like what the wee hours of the night would have been for sure it was gonna get wild that's like the confidence and bravery of only a white man you know what i mean like that shit like i would never as if what we're describing is any different than the life of chris brown it doesn't know what are you talking about way different because how because it's not being televised it's not being recorded so you're saying because one guy has the balls to stream it that that makes it like inherently like a racial divide well for my experience white people are way more frivolous with fucking drugs look at blue face that's what All these black streamers.

1:41:28You ain't being fair, bro. The shit that came down my timeline the other day is crazy. What? Blue face, bro. And that's why he said, get on camera and it's like, you're on the clock. Ain't nobody injecting no drugs in nobody's face. Like, that's not even something I even know about. It's not that out of the ordinary. Everybody knows about peptides. No, no, no, no, no, no. Like, Clav is just, like, kind of pushing the envelope. All right. Like, black people version, buy some pill, do some coke. A, B, and D. Sucked his dick. Yeah, but think about A, B, and D. And they're doing the same exact thing that Clav is doing.

1:42:06They're getting drunk. They're hanging out with girls. They're doing drugs realistically off camera. They're fucking some of the girls. Minus the injections. Yeah, minus injecting the chemicals in the face. But besides that, like, what is the material difference between Clav and A, B, and D? Except for the injections. No, the drugs. Because are they outwardly saying, oh, we're doing drugs? I saw Ray J hiding the fact that his girl was doing drugs. But Clab would like try to hide the drugs on camera. I was literally watching him with like a big blob, a Coke or ketamine on his hand, and like literally taking the camera and like pushing it away so he could do it.

1:42:33Right, because he knows you're not allowed to do that on cam, but he does talk about it openly. He talks about it very openly. I would say AB doing white girl is pretty poorly kept as a secret at this point. Well, it's definitely more accepted in the white community to openly talk about it and be catted out on dope. Yeah, we're woke. i mean like realistically like your nose is not like so dissimilar from your mouth or your butthole as ways to take drugs right well i mean bitches you'll be boofing a lot what the hell i mean i'm just saying like like okay any drug like ecstasy you could take an ecstasy pill you could crush it up and snort it you could boil it and fucking inject it into your veins you could put it in your asshole like there's a lot of different ways to take a drug and there are some of them are healthier like more superior but like realistically they're not that different to be fair though and i've been around like women doing all types of drugs and ingesting it in those manners i don't think i've seen too many black girls boofing before it's definitely like having someone blow coke up your ass for the record i've never seen anybody doing that i just know that it's a thing.

1:43:42I'm going two grams off the bitch's ass before. I didn't put E-pills in bitch's butts before. Yeah, yeah, yeah. E-pills. That's true. That's for sure true. Hitting it from the back. I didn't put it in the ass. I never did. That's pretty normal. Coke before, but I didn't have it sniffed off my dick and shit. Fire. Send that video. Send that video later. Yo, but Rios, Rios trying to take the moral high ground. Oh, black people don't do coke. Yes, they do. In their asshole with Munchie B. But what I'm saying is that there's a more of a comfort level and more of a confidence in the different demographics.

1:44:11Yes. There's way more normalized in white culture. It's more normalized and they don't go to jail for that shit as much as. Okay, but this is the thing about Clav that you have to understand is that Clav is someone who grew up on the internet and he doesn't really understand that in the world that there are laws and rules that you have to follow because on the internet, hey, any drug, you can do any drug. You can order it online. You can order it off some forum. They're going to come to your house. like all that shit is totally normal keep in mind this is a guy who got kicked out of college because he brought steroids to college and was and was like doing them in front of his fucking roommate or some shit and then the the college ends up raiding his room finds all of his steroids and then they fucking can him kick him out of school which was kind of like the the thing that propelled him into this whole streamer lifestyle which morally yeah there is nothing wrong with injecting testosterone now doing it at 18 is kind of problematic but like there's nothing wrong with morally but we do live in a society with laws but like once you're like a grown-up you can have steroids in your house like the odds of the cops running up in your crib unless you're doing some wild shit is like very close to zero so yeah you could you could have steroids in your house like they're not going to come looking for that but like your cloud you like then all of a sudden you're world famous and you're on camera all the time and every clip of you goes crazy and look i'm not trying to put nothing on old boy like that because i don't know what happened but but everything that we're describing about this guy, the rampant misogyny, drug use, feeling untouchable, and laws don't apply to him, that kind of lends itself to thinking that this charge may be accurate.

1:45:45Am I crazy for thinking that? It doesn't go well. Okay, do I think that he could get convicted? Yeah, definitely. Do I think he actually did anything wrong? Not really. I mean, the worst sounding thing is basically that he started fucking the girl while she was asleep. Hey, that's pretty bad. I'm sorry, man, I'm sorry. We've all done it. No, we have not. No, in the morning. You had sex the night before, and then you're waking up in the morning. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, your girl. You're right. You're right. Him doing it on the first night, sure. That's a little weird. But all I'm saying is that what kind of girl is going to sleep through a guy trying to fuck her the next morning?

1:46:20They drugged. When that's kind of sedated? I don't know. It just seems like bullshit. I hear girls talking about how they like to get fucked to wake up all the time. Right. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. They like you. See? See? She fucked him the night before and she was clearly absorbed with him in some way. Hold on. So she already... He fucked her that night but they're basically saying that she was too drunk and that she said that she woke up in the morning and that he had been fucking her. So she's not chipping on the night before? Well, we don't know that. I don't know if she's chipping on the night before.

1:46:51Well, she's basically saying that he got her so drunk that she... Yeah, she wasn't able to consent, period. I mean, just generally speaking, we all know... Yeah, we're not going to read this letter, but she did write him a long-ass letter. I'm not reading that shit. In the favor of her or in the favor of him? Well, basically, the letter does not include anything that would suggest that he did anything wrong. Which, you know, as someone who's been in this situation before, keep in mind, I hung out with a girl in 2008, and then I got to find out 10 years later, because an article came out, I got to find out that she had decided that I took advantage of her.

1:47:28so 10 years later you get to find out Clab only had to wait whatever like a year so I am a little sympathetic since I've been through the same exact thing of girls trying to ruin your life and your name by basically just putting bullshit accusations on you I had a homie in high school the girl lied on he went to jail I wanted to interview him so bad bro man oh you know who he's talking about yeah it's a movie out on it Brian Banks why was it like notable enough that they made a movie about it he was the number one linebacker in the nation and he was going to go to USC with Pete Carroll who had already recruited him when he was like in the 10th grade and he committed and the girl they got caught on the stairs and so when she got caught she lied and said like oh this dude it wasn't consensual and you know a big old black dude you know buff as fuck was she a white girl No.

1:48:26And so she got caught going to the lawyer's office, his lawyer's office, and he had it recorded. And she was like, he was like, just come clean. She was like, well, my mom already spent all the money. There's nothing we can do. Because they sued the school district. And they got it on tape of her admitting that she lied because she was scared of what her parents were going to do or whatnot. That shit was fucked. But you skipped the step, though. He already had went to jail. Yeah. Yo, he's in jail. Yeah. And he got out, and then she hit him up on Facebook like nothing happened. Like a cuckoo bitch.

1:48:58And then he had to meet up, and he recorded her confessing. You know what I'm saying? How many years did he do? Ruined his fucking life, though. He's going to be in the league. But hey, bro, man, I wanted to interview that dude, DW. Not DW, P. Nice saw me a dream. Like, yeah, but I'm going to hit you up. I'll talk to him. Yeah, man. Has he done any media regarding that? Yeah, he's done some media. And then Pete Carroll, when he got out of jail, Pete Carroll let him try out for the Seahawks. Wow. Oh, shit, really? Yeah, because he felt like he owed it. You know what I mean? But he didn't have those years of coaching.

1:49:36He's six years out of football. But the fact that he still let him come to the team try out, you know what I mean? It was a big deal, man. That was a fucked up situation. That is a fucked up situation. Hey, Adam, I'm going to give you a cool little parallel you can run with, right? Ooh, all right. Call yourself the Pete Carroll of podcasters. I never had a case. What the fuck? Well, Pete Carroll never had a case. Yeah, he did. He ran away. Remember, he ran from the coach. Pete Carroll, the coach? Oh, not a legal, not a case like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But did he go on to achieve great things after that?

1:50:06Yeah, he won a football. Pete Carroll was the coach. Oh, oh, oh. Talk about the coach, not the players. Oh, fuck the coach. No, no, no, no, no, no. Hey, look, look. This is why I said that. Pete Carroll is not the average white boy. Pete Carroll know that like the, the, the, the, uh, The athletes that had the talent, they from the inner city. So he went to these schools and he didn't send recruiters. He went to Crenshaw High. He's walking in the hallways himself. He went to Poly. He went to Jordan, the one in Watts. Doughboy went to Poly. Huh? Doughboy went to Poly. Poly Amity High. No, he didn't.

1:50:34He went to Cabrillo. That's crazy. You know what school he went to. Even though it's eight hours away. Bro, Brandon pissed me off, bro. He be pissing me off. Blood gang. So wait. So you're basically, the comparison much he's trying to say is that you go to the trenches to find talent like Munchie B and Brinkley. Oh, okay. I like that. No, no, no. That's what I'm saying. Pete Carroll, he – like as a USC coach, you send recruiters. You ever see Boys in the Hood? Right. That recruiter, he wasn't the coach. He sent a recruiter. So he went to these schools in the trenches, Crenshaw and Englewood High School, himself, and roamed the hallways and hollered at the students.

1:51:11You know what I'm saying? And then even when he got to the NFL, like he made sure, like, you know what I'm saying? He still tapped in. It's like Nick Nolte in the movie Blue Chips. Remember that movie back in the 90s about the NCAA and the scandals? Yeah, but Pete Carroll was the man. He had Snoop Dogg, Will Ferrell at the practices. You know what I mean? No, for sure. Legend. Cracking sideline. That's crazy that you guys had to learn that lesson about a football star, and I had to learn it about this fucking fat dude who worked at the grocery store with me. Well, I learned it as a kid, but I hear you.

1:51:41Well, I mean, he was like 19, and I just remember he went to jail for a little while for fucking like a 15-year-old or something. I didn't even know that. Did he not do it? I was like the girl's age. So like I was astounded. I couldn't believe it. No, I assume he did it. Adam, since you, are you going to have Clavicular spin the block and be your therapist again? Clavicular can be my therapist any day. I just want the people to know, yes, he is 20 years younger than me. Yes, he is literally younger than half my age. But me and Clavicular get along very well. and my wife who i am separated from technically she has pointed out that she thinks that he and i have similar narcissistic autistic personalities oh he's for show on the spectrum right like i think me and him really resonate with a lot of things and i think that he appears to me as be like if i had had the balls to really go for it as a young man that I could have been like him.

1:52:45Not in the nose job or the hammer in your face, but I think at a young age, I knew that you really have to get in amazing shape in life. If you really want to have a great life, that's just going to benefit you so much. I knew that, but I wanted to eat fries and pizza and shit instead, so I never had the guts to really go through with it. How much do he weigh? I don't know, but he's in extremely good shape. He's very, very lean. but the thing is he's super roided out not really anymore I don't know how long he could sustain being alive with the cocktail of drugs that he's taking I don't know if it's that bad he was overdosing on camera he was doing shit physically when you look at him he'd probably appear away but he probably have zero strength.

1:53:41That was my whole point. That's literally my yes. There was a clip of him struggling to bench 135. That is my whole point right there. And he's on steroids since he was like 14. Isn't that the funniest thing ever? I would say like most girls could probably bench 135. He's doing it for aesthetic. He says that he hates exercising. He considers exercise a waste of time. I like that he's so honest about that because I fucking hate exercising. but I just like have to do it but he's like no I'm gonna go around it I'm gonna get on all this shit yeah does he not does he eat all strict and shit like he has like a strict fucking diet and all this rarely eats I think when I was yeah because he's all about being on Ozempic and shit that's like the major tenant of his religion is like you have to be lean so it's Ozempic steroids he's on yeah he's on all that shit he loves it bro yeah he defenceless and you know what else I like about him that is actually extremely similar to me um is that he talks about how he's like he likes fucking girls and he doesn't really care if they're hot or not which that was like rule number one so why was he calling them chubby when they came to the door and talking shit i don't know i think you just get fucked up and just bang whoever and i was always like that i was always like i'll fuck i'll fuck whatever girl wait i thought he's super like picky about the bitches with the girls he like takes serious but he also always talks about how he is down like how he's fucked so many disgusting chicks yeah but you didn't weren't like that until that dude told you that like remember you said the dude i got turnt out you got turnt he told you like shit i'm just trying to stack numbers okay sexually that guy is the guy who put me on the hood sexually pause um in the sense that like he taught me how to be a degenerate piece of shit dude who fucks every single girl he can when i wasn't like that do you think he fucked your life up like he do you think he fucked your outlook up like yeah i mean yeah i mean i was gonna like kind of like figure out how to be a man one way or another but like when i look back at all those older bmx dudes i was hanging out with they just their attitude on women was so toxic and i would have really been better off getting that sort of like life education from somebody who was like less insane yeah those guys were fucked hey rios where we from is you are they just say pussy ain't got no face on it remember right yeah pussy got no face on it so you just hit and there was no value on that shit it was just like yeah and then you know like that's okay but also like if i could have like had somebody in my if somebody had came to me like my friend at that age and was like listen the game is not about fucking every chick it's about fucking high quality girls and presenting an image of yourself that is It's one that a woman of quality would want to be with.

1:56:29Exclusiveness. I think that is the actual path forward. It's like being a rapper. It's like a rapper will wear 10 chains and they'll get beats from the hottest producers and they'll pay bigger rappers to stand next to them in videos and they'll pay for promo and all this shit, all with the attempt at making them look cool to the people. As a guy, that's what you're doing when you're dating. You got to wear the right clothes, whatever that may be. You got to smell the right way. You got to look the right way. You want to only be seen with quality women. You don't want your stock to be dragged down.

1:56:59If there's pictures of you online hanging out with fours, then that's going to color you as a guy who gets fours. I think when you're younger, it's all about putting numbers on the board and, like, you're gaining experience. You're getting your rep up and all that. I just took that too far. I did that for, like, 15 years. Then at a certain point, you start to be a little bit more picky and discerning, hopefully. Yeah, I think back in the day, like, we were going after the girls. Like, that was the whole reason. like not necessarily peacocking but you were establishing yourself for women i feel like nowadays like this new shit these motherfuckers is men is getting dressed for men well the whole entire role in society i'll do another man like oh like it's just kind of weird that's what girls do too girls are competing on like jewelry that we don't understand and like plastic surgery that like maybe we'll notice but like maybe not like all these things that like kind of seem like they're for the girls but don't you think like the new like men are taking on those qualities of like how women are yes but women are also making more money than ever before and have like or trying to use the patriarch right this is the thing okay women have become men in a lot of like powerful meaningful ways in the sense that they understand the value of their coochie and they understand that they really have no reason to fuck broke dudes they should only fuck guys who you know if you're a real hot chick you should only fuck guys that are able to like benefit you in some way clavicular is like a dude who took on all of the lessons that women have known for decades or centuries and brought those to the man space because he realized oh the leaner i am the more attractive i am the better girls i'll be able to get the better i'll be able to do in life every girl knows that all the girls out here getting fake tits like girls getting fake tits is the equivalent of clavicular like claiming he's getting some crazy jaw surgery or pounding his face with the hammer to make his cheeks like fucking swell up a little bit or whatever like you should be the judge of that all those things all those things are things that are totally normal for girls to do girls get surgeries out the fucking wazoo clavicular is just like the one dude who's like pushing it into the mainstream that that kind of stuff is also beneficial to men because prior to this it was like bodybuilding and there is which that bodybuilding is for other men well there is truth to the clav um philosophy in certain degrees like if you're in a foreign country and you're at some random ass party and everybody let's say everybody's wealthy there everybody's opulent what's going to separate you and make you stand out is the way you look like if your riz is inconsequential because nobody speaks the language or whatever it's just you're going to get fucked based on how you look but dudes will spend crazy amounts of money on their car on their clothes on their tattoos on their jewelry but at the end of the day if you have 5 % body fat.

1:59:43None of that shit. All that shit kind of goes out the window. Being in good shape is so much more important than having all the luxurious glamorous shit. I wish I would have realized that a lot. The only surgery that really matters with a man is his teeth, bro. Teeth, hair. That's a big thing. Teeth is important, bro. For sure it is. You can't go to Nobody's job interview. Shout out. You got this other dude named George and he got a nice front scene. That's the first thing you see. Right, right. That's the most important thing on a man that can be sexually done. If you're a guy and your hairline is here.

2:00:19Your teeth is more important than your hairline. You think? Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, okay, if your hair's jacked, you can shave your head. Yeah. So that's, you know. Like, you just have to stop talking with your teeth. The most important thing a man could do to modify himself is his teeth. I don't disagree. I think you're right. I think, okay, yeah. Being a bald dude is not that bad compared to having fucked up teeth. You have fucked up teeth. Everybody treats you like a meth head. Unfairly, but they do. You hooked your homie up because of that, right? And I feel like it's probably like I think he was able to leave his girlfriend after that.

2:00:51Oh, is that right? You're a good homie for that. Yeah, he hooked his homeboy up. You gonna hook me up with some veneers, bro? I had a cool black dentist at the time who was down to do it. Huh? What happened to him? I don't know. I don't even remember his name, but I can find him, actually. But your teeth are fine. like nobody's gonna like take sympathy on you because your shit look normal it has to be for sympathy it could be better but they don't look fucked this dude's shit was fucked my shit was fucked i had to get my shit yeah your shit was fucked yeah think about how much worse you looked like that that is it's such a huge difference so y 'all agree we don't think about i agree yeah but cardi b would always have the conversation about teeth or ass what's more important for a girl get your teeth down your ass got a bag and fix my teeth teeth the thing with girls though is that your teeth matter like crazy, your tits matter like crazy, and your ass matters like crazy, and small waist matters like crazy.

2:01:40With a girl, everything matters. You gotta have everything on point or realistically, dudes ain't really looking at you like that. But bad breath will fuck some shit up. Oh my god. Bad breath will fuck some shit up. I know a girl in the OnlyFans world who is one of the hottest chicks you will ever see. If I brought her up on the screen right now, you guys would all be like 10. She is a 10. Me and a bunch of other people have all independently confirmed they're just thank ass bro she can fix that though right i don't know i don't know if she knows about it but i've like somehow accidentally ended up in conversations with other people where i realized that they know and ain't none of y 'all gonna tell her nobody's told her that's oh shit i don't want to tell her i got nothing to gain from telling her she might have halitosis if i was fucking her i would tell her i would fuck her three times before i told her though i don't think she's not i don't think she's not brushing her teeth i think it's something she got to get fixed could be a sinus issue for sure she takes care of her teeth for i don't know i can't justify it i just know that i have been like you know standing next to her like this and smelled like she's not like directly breathing that's baby said i still smell that and that just nobody told her shit that's what you gotta figure this out babe i mean i've talked about the erica manna thing several times and i'm not the only thing yeah i said it on this podcast and i'm not the only one that said that chris brown said it a bunch of people i I remember Mano and Uncle Murda saying that K.

2:02:59Michelle had a stinky pussy. Nah, Uncle Murda was, he was just sitting there? No, he was couch chasing. You could tell he was trying to be funny. I couldn't believe it. I never heard of her, but I was like, that's so grimy to go on a podcast and say that. But she got her ass reduced, though. Oh, for real? She's had stupid cake. But isn't that a cap that like a BBL stinks? They say that shit. That's not true. I heard something like that, but it might be at times. It depends. Oh, but I've never seen that. But I think Michelle had too much ass for me, bro. I couldn't hit from the back, bro, because her shit was way too big, bro.

2:03:31You'd have to work the angles for sure. That was a lot. I mean, I'm going to be real. Like, a lot of black women go a little crazy with the butt. No, that's her and Nicki with that extra-doll shit, bro. I know, but that's what I'm saying is that some of the most influential black women went too crazy with the booty. Like, Nicki Minaj is a great example. Cardi B got hers reduced, you know? Lil' Kim. But also, that's like the appetite of the guys. Lil' Kim with crazy on the face. Yes. Girls will say that black guys don't care how the BBL looks. They just want size. Who the fuck said that? I've had tons of girls say that.

2:04:04She's a motherfucking liar. No, everybody knows that. That black dudes are like huge ass so much that they're willing to sacrifice it looking crazy. Whereas a white guy wants a BBL that like has a good solid shape to it. Y 'all used to not even like ass. I know, but we're catching up.

2:04:24I've heard enough girls say that There's no way you can convince me it's not true though But every black guy you know Why is Zion Williams with Mariah Mills Walking around looking like a Lego Zion Williams is weird Nah yeah he's a weirdo But I'm saying that like a lot of the top Black females kind of got like crazy No cause look Who's the girl with the Tory Lanez Meg Meg, she don't got no big old, she's bad. But doesn't she stand out as like the very rare woman who, to be fair, genetically gifted, has like a really nice, big, natural ass. And she's a big woman in general. She's tall as hell and shit.

2:05:01But I mean. What's the girl, Ice Spice? Yeah, she looks amazing. Yeah, but like, okay, some of the biggest black females are the ones who just naturally are born with ass that's so big that it almost kind of looks fake. Look at Ice Spice. But that's different from one of the ugly BBLs. I posted a booty video that got 500 ,000 likes on Twitter. Yeah, but you said black men like ugly BBLs. It don't matter. I think that black men just prioritize size more than other races. Then there's women like SZA who wound up getting some of the best plastic surgery of all time. Whoever did that deserves a fucking Nobel Prize.

2:05:37I have never looked, but let me just say this. Rios, I'm going to trap you right here. Let's go. Do black men care about big ass more than Asian men? Yes. Yes. Okay, there you go. But what does that mean? So if you're not willing to admit that also perhaps white people and Hispanic people appear on a spectrum of caring about that, then I feel like if you'll admit that about Asian people, then you probably have to admit that about white people, right? No, because the thing— You're saying white people and white people have the same exact taste, but for some reason Asian people have— Look at the argument.

2:06:07You said that it's so bad that they don't care if it's a botched surgery. It could be black men accepting a 5 % bigger ass or a 5 % worse looking ass. I'm just saying it's a thing. We like big ass because that's how our girls naturally are. That's what we're naturally inclined to be. Then why do they got to get surgery? But they don't. They don't. They don't. Black women for sure have a higher percentage of BBLs than other races. No. You don't believe that? It became a fad, bro. South America. South America is really where it's called the BBL Brazilian. I'm talking about in America, in LA. Well granted there's way less black women than other racers It's definitely really prominent with Hispanic women as well And they have botched Okay boom Mexican dudes are willing to accept that too Why?

2:06:54Because they kind of grimy What they got to do with black men? I'm just saying black and Mexican dudes are sort of similar They want ass and they don't really care if it gets fucked up along the way I believe it I know it's racist but I believe it I don't think so I'm going to keep it real with you bro Most Hispanic girls don't have body They don't have ass So when you get a Mexican female You're gonna appreciate it And that's just what it is bro And you just gonna say what Is that including Dominican women And like Colombian women Come on Mexicans bro I mean if you wanna get fancy And get all real particular Well no because there is a difference Just majority of what we have access to In LA Yeah yeah yeah absolutely BBL's procedures and conversations are notably prominent among black communities and media.

2:07:43Sociological research notes a strong cultural alignment with the thick ideal, an aesthetic that balances curves and a fuller figure rather than a hyper thin frame. Literally anybody who's ever observed black culture for more than five minutes already knew that. Hispanic and Latina women often show a higher statistical desire for maximum volume, lower pole fullness and pronounced curves. but in general I would say you know like white people seem like there's a lot of like famous white guys like look at well she's very talented but like a Taylor Swift like that body type is like think about all the famous white women that you could think of that are like singers yeah yeah yeah they're all skeletons but that's very rare yeah Amber Rose right basically a black woman no she ain't no basically no black woman isn't she like half black no no but she did become popular because of black culture black man and she comes off as black and so did uh well she's from a trailer park in like this is basically the same as being a black guy shut the fuck up she is black for the record she is not black her father no her mother is Cape Verdean which I don't know what that means but it sounds like some black shit that's an island off the coast of Africa a lot of them like they in Boston they all got colored eyes white skin light skin brown skin Yes, the majority of them got green eyes.

2:09:07She's white. Yeah, Dorchester is like the largest Cape Verdean population in America, I'm pretty sure. So that's a Dorchester, like literally hell on earth. Like the craziest fucking part of Massachusetts by far. Free G Fredo. People talked about Dorchester when I was growing up, like the way that people out here talk about Watts. I don't even know. Yeah, Compton, Watts, whatever. But like the worst neighborhood in that place. Yeah, no, Dorchester is active as fuck. Yeah. Where'd that say? Massachusetts? Yes, it's in Boston, like you said. Yeah, yeah. All right. Shout out to Compton and Watts.

2:09:41What else we got for topics, man? We got a lot of something going on. Okay, so they're having to drag Big U into court. I don't know if we should talk about that. Should we talk about AZ Chayk in the game? Yeah. Or should we talk about... AZ Chayk in the game. Oh, wait. AZ Chayk and Drake, rather. No, Kendrick. AZ Chayk and whoever else. Okay, you're friends with AZ Chayk because he is an Inglewoodian, right? yeah yeah by the way did you ever hear the fabled kendrick verse on the easy check album i only heard t-reel say that he heard it i've never heard nobody else ever speak of it but would you did you hear like music from the album like did you hear that it was on the album i only heard it from t-reel have you ever heard anybody else speak other than t-reel say he heard that he was on the album dissing everybody it's a logical thought that kendrick would be on that record since he was supposedly working.

2:10:32That's different. No, you're right, though. I never heard. That was going off a picture. Yes. A picture of them in the studio, and they said, like, the West of the Week. What would it say? It said something like, We the West. But everybody was just, you know, making speculations. I'm not going to lie. Like, Drake told me that he heard that Kendrick was going crazy on the Jike album. Like, he said that when we were talking about it at some point. But I don't know if he was saying that because he heard the clip of T-Rail saying it. Was it prior to that dropping or nah? That was a good question. I don't actually know what time it was.

2:11:05Now you know you can't trust him. Hey, but you know a lot of people, they put out fake news and throw baits out there. Yeah. Especially between the TDE and OVO crew, they've been throwing out baits to each other on purpose. Yeah, for sure. I mean, I just am very skeptical of the idea that AZ Chayk was down to be, or excuse me, that Kendrick was down to be on the Chike album, that he had the song ready to go, and that all it took was T-Rell going on a fucking radio show and saying, I heard you talking crazy about everybody who dissed him. To be fair, T-Rell did not offer up a lot of real details at all.

2:11:45That seems kind of crazy to me that that would be enough for Kendrick to take the verse off the album. I'm very skeptical of that. Because it would hurt AZ Chike to take it off. because if you do have a verse on it, it helps a lot. I don't think Kendrick is like, people talk shit or whatever, Drake and Kendrick. I don't think he would purposely fuck up some shit with Chike like that. Bro, that's the difference between 10 ,000 first week sales and 70, 80 ,000 potentially. I don't know about that, but I'll give you 30. It's a big number. For sure. For sure at least 20, 30 ,000 more. Especially with Drake dropping, doing the FOMO shit and all this stuff going on.

2:12:25that would have just been i i just don't think he would do some shit like it feels like i don't know it feels like a logical time for kendrick to hop back out there given that we're kind of coming off of the the drake in the game conversation where the drake verse allegedly got pulled from the game album you know like this this the the idea that he was going to be on the chike album was so big and it's it's just kind of crazy like basically is kendrick so rare and mysterious with how he puts his aura out there that he almost like becomes a hater like that he kind of becomes somebody that is just not that he's like ball hogging the clout is how i've heard people refer to it where he's not offering up enough for other people granted yes gnx had a bunch of features from dudes but like if he's that intimately involved in the az check album and can't do a verse that's literally going to take you fucking 10 minutes like i don't know did you hear it oh You heard that from people or you heard that from Charlie Mann's act?

2:13:25I mean, so many people thought that Kendrick was going to be on the album. Now, if they were all wrong, sure. But okay, here's the thing. Chyke did like an interview on Pigeons and Plains. Chyke was like kind of on social media talking and stuff. If he really never thought that Kendrick was going to have a verse on the album, I think that Chyke probably at some point in the rollout would have said like, Nah, Kendrick ain't on the album Just to manage expectations Wasn't there rumors of him executive producing it at one point? No, I think Ty said that He was very involved He did not executive produce it He said that he was in the studio And he was involved playing mentor Correct, that's different though Because the rumor was that he EP'd the album Has everybody listened to the album?

2:14:11I have Production is crazy on there Production really struck me as being really good But I just don't think he's notable enough as a rapper for it to be realistic that he could go beyond the level that he's at right now. I think the AZ Chaykin Ruchi project was significantly better. I was knocking that. That was a dope album. I like that better than Mozzie and YG shit. AZ Chaykin Ruchi had a surprisingly good album. It was better than a lot of people thought it was going to be. The thing is, with West Coast artists, and I'm going to say with Chaykin, man, everybody on the West Coast just keep doing music with each other.

2:14:46They need to go outside of California and do more collabs. That's what Axe said. That's not a bad point. Because what's your name, Carl? He real versatile, though. He a Mack Lowe player type dude. He could get along with everybody. I'm talking about Shaik. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's fashionable shit now. He's not into the streets. He ain't worried about who beefing with who like that. You know what I'm saying? He's not a Crip or a Blood. AZ Shaik is not a Blood. He's affiliated. He's not a Blood, though. He's affiliated with Inglewood. I thought he was an official Englewoodian. No, no, no. Y 'all believe that he got put on at 25.

2:15:20He don't game back. Yeah, I know he's like denied that. Well, there is the whole clip of like the dude telling him not to throw up the B or whatever. Stop doing that. Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't remember that? Whoa, I don't know. Yeah, that's right. I don't remember that. Yeah, but Syke, Syke, Syke good people's, man. Look, Syke, Kendrick, and it was one more. Syke, Kendrick. I like them niggas that like Don't gangbang but they from that It's one more Fuck no Oh I know what you're talking about You said it the other day Dude from That kick it with the BPS's AFN Isn't that his name What's his name That's not what you're talking about What if everybody coming up out of Inglewood is not from Inglewood fans We got Dajon And we got Chike.

2:16:14Look at that. Your city is being taken over by renegades. You like that? Roshi from Inglewood. He from NHP. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Lil Deuce. He from Inglewood family. Frosty, he say he love you, bro. He from the surf. Is he? He was in the studio the other day. We were recording. Let's meet up, bro. I got a fucking Charizard for him. Yeah. Blame it. Hey, nah. I told him I embraced that shit. Catch them all, dude. But shit no AZ Chike is now known by academics Academics listen to his shit And that is a plus in his career Academics say hey man keep going Your trajectory is up Go outside of your shit If Ak was acting like he didn't know him before Ak is acting like he does know him now But he was calling him like ass cheek Yeah but he followed his lead Do you guys think that the album was a disappointment overall?

2:17:03I don't I didn't have any Y 'all be having expectations Did you like it? Would you listen to it again? um yes i'll listen to it again it wasn't my favorite album it wasn't it's not the top five you know it wasn't really keeping my attention that much but i thought it was okay i should probably listen to it again but yo it's for show crazy this is illuminating though i actually didn't know about this so this is from complex four days ago this is a quote from az check saying talking about a potential collaboration with kendrick lamar on but like he said we'll see i was really just keeping my fingers crossed god and i hate the way they do this where they just type out the shit from a fucking podcast and like they credit him but it's still annoying okay so Chike said and this is before the album came out I sent the album to Dot and the song is called God's Favorite he was like God's Favorite in the back it's ratchet like ignorant nah we gotta change that that n-word pushed that shit up to track 3 but he knew what he was doing he's like they gonna want this from you for sure I swear his words He said, N-Word, you know how many money trees and cartoons and cereal I had to take off my album?

2:18:11And after that, he had me beat. I ain't had nothing else to say. So he took great songs off the album? Is that what that means? So he said God Favorite. It was named God Favorite, but it had like a righteous hymn. He's saying that he had songs on deck that were like ready to go for Good Kid, Mad City. that would have pushed it into more of a catchy hit realm, but maybe made it be taken less seriously as like an artistic statement, which I do think like Kendrick is like, he's better at making those kind of like ignorant turnt up party type songs than he actually wants to like make those songs. And that's why when you hear the reference tracks leak of him writing songs for Baby Keem, and you're like, oh, he's writing like more simplistic, a little bit more turnt up songs for other people because he knows that his career, that's not maybe like the best look for him.

2:19:06Yeah, well, that's the guy that made to pimp a butterfly. And it's not him at his best. Why am I going to give you me not at my best? Like I'm at my best when I'm in my bag. And I appreciate someone having like that much. He has a strong artistic statement, but like somebody like Drake is like, I'm going to make crazy pop records and then I'm going to make hard rap songs. And then I'm going to make... Drake, like, makes every genre, whereas, like, hip-hop and R &B is pretty much what Kendrick says. Yeah, because Drake is a pop star. Well, he chose to be. You know what I mean? He could have been the kind of artist that Kendrick is, you know?

2:19:40Drake? If he wanted to, like, take 80 % of his catalog and remove it, you know? I don't think he could. I mean, Drake is a great lyricist. Yeah. But I don't think he's able to get in as conceptual of a bag as not. Would Drake trying to make extremely high art projects, if he had decided that he didn't want to compete on hits or sales and that he wanted to compete on Pulitzer Prizes, could he have been in that arena? I think he could be taken much more serious in that arena. I don't think he wants to because what's the W to be got from that? Is he intelligent and creative enough and diverse? Yeah.

2:20:18If he had taken his energy and put it into that as opposed to making hits, then I think that he would have done a lot better at that. Correct. I don't think he would have been better than Dot. He's not as woke as Dot. No, no, absolutely not. To get more backpacky. Y 'all heard me the other day say that as much as I love Drake and I've actually been around him in person and worked with him, he don't have music that's moved me as much as Money Trees or ADHD. Well, I feel like Kendrick could be more of a Drake than Drake could be a Kendrick. I'm just saying that look at what Kendrick has had to do in order to cultivate the image that he has.

2:20:52He has to like go ghost for like years at a time. No, he'll have to barely put some stuff out there. Yeah. But like, that's all part of this image that he has the same thing with Cardi. Cardi doesn't do shit. So Cardi has this mystery and this allure about him. Drake, on the other hand, is like way more of a normal person. He's like out in the clubs and like hanging out with girls and shooting a million music videos and like doing normal shit. Like Drake at a certain point realized like that he didn't want to like spend all of his time like off social media. Like he was like the first rapper I saw where I was like, whoa, you follow 3000 people.

2:21:21Well, he started. Every rapper I knew was trying to be rare by only following zero people or ten people or whatever. He started off as an actor. Yep. He started off as an actor. But think about how many opportunities he's turned down to be an actor since then. You don't think he's had like a billion offers for like huge roles? Well, he's done SNL. I think he's actually funny. Do you think that Kendrick is capable of flipping as many genres and styles as Drake? Yes. That's a tall order though. That's a very tall order. He hasn't done it because he can't. No, no, no. Drake did it because he could.

2:21:54If you listen to G &X, you'll realize it. G &X is all one song. It's like all one style song. He's dumbed down. Bro, bro, bro, bro, bro. Just like OT Genesis. He could rap rap. He dumbed it down. Coco. No, for sure. Dumb it down. And I fuck with OT, but look how his career is viewed. No. People don't take him serious as like an artistic rapper. They view him as a guy who makes party songs. Kendrick could be more in that category if he had made his albums more like that. If he valued himself. If he wanted to. But it might have created more value in a certain way. It's all about what you want to prioritize.

2:22:28I don't think Kendrick enjoyed doing commercials type music. He's the same guy. He likes making some. He made All Right. No, no, no, no, no, no. But that's a conscious record. I know, but I'm saying like he's take, I think Kendrick accurately knows that like to get himself out there fully to be the best artist that he can be, then he's going to have to make some fucking commercial smash. So he's going to do it so easy. But he's done it so many times over the years. I wouldn't say easy, but he's only done it like a handful of times, but he's done it. No, a handful? You know how many radio hits he got?

2:22:57I mean, yes. It's nothing compared to Drake. It's like 1 % of Drake. Yeah, but I'm not comparing those. But he's not doing with Drake. But he's the only person that you can compare to Drake, really, in rap these days. No, I'm saying that Kendrick, he make radio hits, and I feel like he feel like it's a job to do it. He don't want to do it. He's like, all right, here we go. He makes radio hits on accident. What the fuck are you guys talking about? because we're talking about that once i'm saying to pimple butterfly is more what he enjoyed to do like uh uh the uh we uh uh what's the shit called that everybody was playing that the this that is not like us not like us he just did that because to feed the people well and that's also really enjoy to do and the fact that he had that content and he's talking about such lofty topics on not like us and it wound up being such a fucking huge record of such magnitude i don't think anybody else could do that.

2:23:48But it was also going after the biggest fucking person. For sure. Throughout Kendrick's career, he can only get hot when he's doing the beef thing and the diss thing. That's crazy you would even say that. The Control Verse and the Drake diss were the two biggest moments in his career. So the song with Beyonce is not big. Name a bigger one. King Kunta, motherfucking. Yes, yes, I would say it's much, much bigger than that. One of the B-Hubble swimming pools. You guys are naming random songs. I'm talking about like low bass and shit. Okay, hit records for sure, but as far as being the center of the conversation in hip-hop those were the two times that he became the only thing that people talk about people forget about the fact that like even on this podcast we have gone years without having conversations did you talk about the black panther album uh probably i thought that was that was a long time ago that was like 10 years ago but what i'm but it doesn't matter when we're just saying we didn't really talk about topics current events on here but when you mentioned kendrick you don't mention that you know what i mean like black panther was fucking dope i think was it but okay i actually know that this is a fact because i looked it up the other day but the two biggest moments viral wise in his career are the control verse and then uh not like us the other one would be sit back the the other one would be we gonna be all right being the theme song for the black lives matter protests and that's the only thing that contradicts that but he is right there those are the two pinnacles of his career as far as what what do you what do you consider a pinnacle what are we saying as far as center of hip-hop in the conversation and having everybody talk about you a lot of the big songs that kendrick has had are really just big songs that are not like constantly talked about by hip-hop fans because they're good songs, but they're not like polarizing enough that people like feel the need to discuss them all the time.

2:25:24Whereas like the control verse, everybody still remembers it to this day. Everybody talked about it for months when it happened and same thing with Not Like Us and the whole Drake beef. Y 'all not realizing people that gotta go to work and people that gotta go to work. Like that wanna go to work and people that need to go to work. But people in hip-hop, you know, I guess you could like reduce everybody who's interested in beef and drama to like people who are like unemployed but i mean we're all like having those kind of conversations all the time even if some people opt out of some percentage of it when the control verse came out it literally was the only thing that anybody in hip-hop was discussing what if everybody was nobody had done anything what if drake stayed one style what if drake didn't go to the houston what if drake didn't go to atlanta what if he didn't become a comedian steal other people's flows throughout his he would be a lot more like henry he wouldn't be the biggest artist in the world he wouldn't what he wouldn't if he didn't go to these places and get the the flow from these people and have these songs have you listened to drinks like early mixtapes it's like you're not a music fan if you can't listen to his early tapes and be like oh this is evidently somebody who is incredibly talented you guys being willing to take his talent and reduce it down to oh he steals people's flows haters so hater energy but no so but the The fact that you can look at what we said as haters shit and you can't look at what you said as haters shit is crazy.

2:26:44No, what I said was a fact that the two biggest moments in Kenny's career were the two times that he's came out dissing. But you're ignoring that. It's a fact. You can't deny it. You're ignoring that he performed the way he dropped the way he dropped because he wants to. Why would you say that? I think he drops that the rate that he drops because he has to because it's hard for him to make great projects. Well, he also puts so much into the concept and interweaving themes. It wouldn't make sense. it would kind of be over it would be overwhelming for the listener i think he also just thinks that by cultivating this aura that he's able to like make it more special when he does draw music it's the same exact logic as a cardi obviously cardi got it got a big album in him right now he's not dropping it he would rather wait years and years and then drop a big you gotta look at it like this he's so dope they mad he don't drop right look look what he said on the lead card i just don't think i don't think he has enough dope oh yeah i ain't gonna post i'm gonna kill my life problem the whoop-de-doo or whatever he said to Mariah the Scientist about Kendrick not posting.

2:27:42Nigga, why you worried about a nigga posting? Why you want to look at this nigga for? That's what I'm saying. The nigga so dope. They waiting on him so much. They mad at him. Just like I be waiting on Ravenel Street Politic. Like, damn. The thing is, if Kendrick put himself out there more, you wouldn't think he was so dope. Because he does well when people rarely get to see him. He puts his best foot forward, for sure. Look, that's the only way he's been. So how do you know any different? Well, early in his career. No, no, wait up. He consists of how he's moving. But that's the only way he's been.

2:28:12How do you know any different? Because I just think he would do more if he thought that it would be well received by the people. But that's an assumption. Kendrick's put out a lot of albums that realistically within hip hop. Yeah, maybe some of his albums won fucking Pulitzers. But within hip hop, it was crickets. Nobody talked about it. People don't like, like, I love, like, there's not a project Kendrick's done that I don't enjoy. I think Mr. Brown was his little point. But that's such a different conversation. like you personally enjoying them like okay no but what i'm saying is because you don't enjoy it or you don't like it doesn't mean okay the difference between me and you is i'm not talking about my personal opinion i'm talking about the the the resonance and the impact that i observed it having during that time it's not like you saying i like all kendrick's albums is a retort to an argument that i wasn't making so was it your personal opinion that you just said kendrick couldn't do something that he's never even attempted to do it you have never seen it if kendrick could do those things he would because everybody tends to like maximize their the value of their time as best as possible if he could play basketball he would but he's a football player but that is a good point though when you when when there's a guy in the ufc and people are like he could have been number one in the nfl everybody collectively groans because everybody knows that if you could be the number one guy in the nfl you'd be a fucking retard to be getting your head caved in in the middle of the octagon because you make way more money in the nfl so and that's exactly the same argument that I'm making with Kendrick is that if Kendrick wanted to drop an album every, if Kendrick could drop an album every year, he probably would.

2:29:41I don't really think he's got that much fire material in him and he's never proven it if he has. Usually it takes him, what, like an average of like three, four years to drop an album? But that's your personal opinion. But you say that's your personal opinion after I state an objective fact, which is that he takes extremely long gathers. No, that's a fact. He does. It's a fact. That's what he does. I think he chooses. He is choosing to do that. But does it not surprise you that as Jake fans, everybody kind of appreciates the fact that he drops a lot. Youngboy fans, they appreciate that he drops a lot.

2:30:12Kendrick fans, yeah, I guess it's cool to have the scarcity principle in effect, but ultimately at the end of the day, do I think that there's huge amounts of Kendrick music that would absolutely go crazy and rock the charts that he's just not dropping? Not really. I think he would probably put it out. But look, of his five major releases, he has two hip-hop classics, two undebatably great albums, and one that is very polarizing. What was he talking about? Miss Morale. A lot of those albums are trash. But you can agree he's polarizing, though. It's polarizing. When Cardi B didn't drop an album for eight years, why did she not drop an album for eight years?

2:30:51Because she couldn't get a hit. Because she couldn't make a dope album. She couldn't get a hit. She was waiting to get a hit. When Jay-Z hasn't dropped an album in 10 years, why? because he can't get hot. No, because he got businesses and shit. He doing other shit. You don't think that he would like to take advantage of the last 10 years of his life of putting out music? He don't got it in him. It's hard to put out music. When you actually care about the music doing well, it is fucking hard to land on a style and a sound that the fans are actually going to react to. That's good. Like you said, when you care about it doing well, bro, it's a young man's game.

2:31:21Kendrick really cares about it doing well. It has been. Jay-Z years. Why would he... Man, Jay-Z need to just kick back and do what he do at the Super Bowl. I agree, but... He's like 60. But look at him now. He's heating up for another run. He wants to drop another project. He's going to disappoint himself. But that's what he's doing. Like, everybody... Osteoporosis the album? Everything is pointing towards Jay-Z dropping an album this year. I personally think that the reaction is probably not going to be able to be what he wants it to be. But if it is... So if it is... If it is, I'll listen to it.

2:31:50If it is a great album, everything you say is wrong. But it's just an assumption. But what I'm saying isn't wrong if he drops a great album. I'm saying I think that he can't drop one. That's just me predicting it. So I can't be wrong. Like 50 Cent said, he's not trying to outdo himself. He came out in what? Did he go diamond? Who? 50? Yeah, 50. 50's a great example. 50 stopped dropping music at the exact moment that he couldn't make music that resonated with the people anymore. And he was smart enough to know when to walk away. But he didn't make the decision. The fans made the decision. No, he did.

2:32:20The fans didn't give a fuck about 50's music anymore. I know because I was a 50 Cent fan. He's a fan. I'm listening to him. But I had not listened to him for a couple years before that. He said he pivoted. But, bro, people are always going to attribute it to choice when it's actually about the environment. But what you're saying is subjective in your opinion. Why do you guys keep saying that like you're making a point? Because I'm going off of what he's saying. The reason how he mapped his career out. Listen, though. Every conversation must lead to, every road must lead to, well, that's just your opinion.

2:32:50Can we just like X that one out? So why are you skimming over the things I say and then just go back to my retort to you? Okay, what do you want me to respond to? I'm saying that he said in this interview what he came to do, and then he's aging, and he pivoted. But the fact that he's aging is why Jay-Z probably should not have taken the last 10 years off. And if he had dope music, I think he would have put it out. Because why the fuck would he have not? The things that they're doing? Why are they taking the time off? The things they're doing, why they're taking the time off, is the reason why these rappers is broke, because they should be doing what they're doing, taking the time off and do something else.

2:33:29Because if you put all your time on music, you're going to be ass at the end of the road. But what does Roc Nation do? They manage like fucking 10 artists or something. Only like three of them you've heard of. Yeah, well, he's working on other ventures. But as far as like Kendrick being able to do what Drake does, earlier y 'all said, and it was a good point, Kendrick's capable of doing those turn up music songs and shit like that, but he chooses not to. Why? Because it's not in align with his branding. Drake, his branding accommodates that type of shit, so he's able to drop as much as he wants and the people want it and they expect him to flip different styles and genres and things like that.

2:34:05So thus he's able to do that and Kendrick is not because his branding doesn't accommodate. Drake just dropped like 60 songs that realistically went over pretty well. You think that Kendrick can seriously drop 60 songs? Well, back then though, prior to Good Kid, Matt City, he was on an insane run with tapes and he was dropping very frequently several times a year, uh, dedicated, dedicated. Yeah. A long time ago. It was like another world. Yeah. Yeah. It was a very different climate years ago. He could, he could do that, but what did he just do a few years? Put out like 14 good songs on one album.

2:34:36That was what the number one album, right? Yeah. Yeah. But that's very different, but you can't, the thing is the comparison to Jay Z is like, he's not Jay Z. He's not rust and he's not a dinosaur. He just showed that he can do it for sure. You know what I mean? Like, He can still make albums that people want to listen to. Absolutely. That's not up for debate. But to drop every year, have several hits, and kind of push the entire culture musically forward, I don't know. He hasn't exhibited the ability to. And I don't know if. I think Kendrick very deliberately drops when he knows the climate will be receptive to it.

2:35:09Exactly, yes. He waits and waits and waits. So you think Iceman is the best album? It's one of the best releases of the year. Without question. So have you listened to J. Cole? Yeah. And you will put Iceman for real up against rap, rapping as J Cole. But that's not what we're talking about. I'm just saying, but I'm saying like, there's a lot of albums. You guys are talking about him like his, his God level type shit. No, no. I said, I said, push the culture forward musically. That's exactly what I said. So how did he push it forward with Iceman? Like, do you feel like, do you feel like the J Cole album had like any cultural resonance?

2:35:41Hell yeah. I haven't heard a fucking peep outside of that Honda breaking down. Are you talking about in his songs? Are you talking about people? I'm talking about the reaction that you really heard from the fans. And I acknowledge that, yeah, his fans were hyped and it sold well to his fans or whatever. But as far as the outside world of hip-hop reaction to the J. Cole album, I would say that the reaction might have constituted like 1 % or 2 % of the conversation that took place about the Drake drop. But does that what you value in an album? What other people think? Okay, so opinion of the album is objective, and that is opinion.

2:36:16And that's what I just asked Lush for his opinion. But what I'm trying to say is that one thing that is a lot less objective is how much a part of the conversation that album ends up being. And I think it's safe to say that the Drake album is probably a hundred times more of an impact to the culture and was more of a talking point. The J. Cole album, we did not talk about on this podcast. The impact to the culture of a majority of the people who don't even know the fucking culture. Drake changed the sonic tapestry of the way people are listening to music. the way that that hook was mixed on Janice, the way, like, there's so many different things that he did that was very progressive.

2:36:53And I feel like you just kind of, like, throw, like, a blanket insult on rap fans to just be like, the average person listening to that shit doesn't even know about the culture. Sure, whatever. Yeah, there's a lot of low-information voters out there, but it doesn't change the fact that, like, the resonance is the resonance. Yes, the average hip-hop fan is not a hardcore hip-hop fan. Right, and so what I'm saying, so you're trying to base the culture, you keep saying culture, culture. But we could even talk about this. They don't even know the culture. But we could talk about it as well. So how do you keep bringing up culture if they don't know it?

2:37:20But we could isolate this conversation to the people who, without question, know the culture. How many times do you think that? Ebro talked about the Drake rollout or the Drake album versus the J. Cole album. Well, yeah, the rollout. I would say it's probably 10X. It's probably 10X. It's arguably the best rollout in hip-hop history. I said rollout. I meant album. but all I'm saying is that like if we isolate it down to like name your top 20 hip-hop commentators anyone and it could be all the people that I don't like it doesn't you can take academics off you can take me off does not matter the jay golem got a hundred times more conversation than jay golem amongst the elite as well as the proletariat but that's that's not what it's like we tap it in personality and like like you know I mean cultural impact is the thing that I think is like the most important when evaluating which album made the most cultural impact j cole rap better than drake but that's not what we're talking about that's crazy but i mean i don't think that's crazy but when you say culture impact like you say moving the culture forward what like what i mean i think making popular music i think making popular music in general like kind of pushes the culture forward because pop music's not going to be able to become very popular unless it in some way pushes the culture forward if it feels completely redundant and repetitive it's just not going to become a hit record so what'd he just call it like what is it pop pop popular culture forward which hip-hop is a part of i'm trying to tell you is that he is in another realm of the music that he's making he's doing pop culture shit he's doing shit that's popular kendrick's not when he's performing at the super bowl to the masses of people at the super bowl the biggest event of the year what that's not saying like hey kendrick has been given the same level of attention that drake has been given you won't even let me finish the statement spit it out like get to it well drake was drake was rapping over more samples and loops and things that are traditionally defined as hip-hop than kendrick was rapping better overall he's saying pop culture moving forward what would have a more cultural impact like that hip-hop is pop culture i don't know if that's confusing but he's saying different things like you know yeah these were having four conversations okay obviously any rap album that gets so big that it's going to be considered the biggest rap album of the year is obviously going to have to overlap into the pop world and that's true of gnx as well a lot of the songs of gnx became huge pop hits drake could drop a fucking fucking bum album it's going to sell more albums than any other rap artist this year but i'm saying besides kendrick besides iceman or what but i'm just saying like kendrick sells a lot of albums too so does j cole but what i'm saying is it even though even if he dropped some garbage some hot shit it would still be popular but but then if he did that then the whole conversation is going to be about what a bum ass album was and that wasn't the conversation and like i've heard very few people really have like negative takes about ice man i didn't like ice man i thought it was great okay but why do i say about like the whole and then you're like well i don't you said you never heard but you always want to point out that you have that but but you have a separate opinion and you you feel like that's a rebuttal to the whole which is like someone says i never heard somebody say that they didn't like ice man and i give you the fucking answer okay well if you have that opinion and you were keeping that to yourself but you you're doing like the thing of like not understanding statistics no i under i just broke it down you're like flexing not getting stats but what about okay also when i say i've never heard anybody say they don't like ice man obviously i'm being hyperbolic i've heard some people say they don't like it i just feel like the the response to it was overwhelmingly positive i mean but also what about the fact that what about the fact that drake had beats from conductor williams who's an underground hip-hop producer and is was rapping over loops and samples and doing things that are way more like i said in the vein of traditional hip-hop than anything kendrick did on gnx what what why you just why you just stuck what about it next though well that was his last album i think that's kind of a fair comparison y 'all Y 'all going Iceman?

2:41:18No, no, no, no. That was never the fucking conversation. No, no, but I'm just, okay, you're right. We don't even need to mention GNX. Yeah, like... You're right, but of any... Big-ass Aliouk. No, you're right. Of any mainstream album currently... Hey, man, you know how many live instruments and... Correct. Kendrick process, bro? Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Now you're really moving the goalposts? Yeah, but like... Do you know how much live instrumentation there was? He's talking about... How is that moving to gopals? What are you talking about? Well, because loops are more a part of traditional hip hop.

2:41:52Okay. Listen to what he just said, which this is the point that I didn't think that we had to explain. Loops are more of a part of traditional hip hop. I'm telling you what he said. Yes. Yes. I didn't think I had to explain it because it's so obvious. Yes. Live instrumentation is less hip hop than using loops. Like think about the origins of hip hop. Break beats and samples. Literally. That's where it started. Graham. the Sugar Hill Gang rapping over Sheik freak out and flipping that. That's a loop. That's a sample. Just to stay directly over what I was with, would you say it by staying the same?

2:42:23You can't talk at the same time. Moving forward by staying the same. Well, making an homage while at the same time pushing things forward and using new techniques, that is very progressive, actually, while staying hip-hop. And you really pointed to us when we listened to the Drake album live, which is that from the perspective of a real hardcore lyricist yes i think that when you remove all of the the mystery and all of the aura that the way that drake raps and what he does with wordplay is actually far more impressive than what kendrick does when it comes to like a battle rap like if you ask any yeah popular battle rapper top tier battle rapper they're gonna be more leaning into the way drake uses wordplay and punchlines and different literary devices then kendrick who has an amazing cadence a very nimble flow flips his voice and does a lot of sound effects when he raps but drake hits you with punch lines and bars a little bit more simple right well no i wouldn't even say it's more simple how could you listen to what he just said to say a little bit more simple that has to be one of the craziest things i ever heard what you're saying is that it's easily digestible right no i think it's kind of the opposite for battle rap and for it to hit it doesn't need to be digestible in the cons in the context of battle rap is more digestible digestible in the sense that the people have to be able to understand it at some point i'm talking to you now yeah because what what you're saying is i'm i'm talking about that i'm combating that you said what he did is is more like battle rap artists but more aligned with what he's talking about drake drake flips polysyllabic rhyme schemes he's rhyming three four five words yes he's he's he's using double entendres he's he has a lot of different devices that are defined as okay look at like guys like mickey fax who has an entire school dedicated to lyricism and breaking down what makes lyrics great and rappers good that is literally uh leaning way more into what drake does then what kendrick does is more similar to buster rhymes or twister or people that just flip their flow and sound cool when they rap and and uh kendrick marries that with a lot of uh deep depths and ill concepts and things like that but drake is actually just hitting you over the head with bars.

2:44:37Drake got more wit and Kendrick is more informal. His whole third verse was a history lesson on, not like this. Drake has such an ability to make hit records that people tend to just sort of automatically discount his lyrics, but then when you actually listen to a lot of the deep cuts on Iceman, it is kind of stunning the amount of effort that he puts into his wordplay just because I feel like it's probably lost on the vast majority of his fans. I don't think he really has to do that. I think he probably overemphasizes it in a lot of ways, but it does cultivate the way that his fans are, where they're really rabid and really want to pick apart every last reference.

2:45:17The only thing I was trying to say, would you say what he don't, I say he's capable and he just don't want to. That's what I'm saying. When you say Kendrick don't do things, I'm saying he's capable of doing it and he just don't want to. That's the only thing I was trying to get across. When he want to put out a radio hit, a party hit, he could do it i think he enjoyed doing the what i call weirdo music because i didn't enjoy pimp the butterfly i like all his commercial music and all that shit but when he felt like doing it he could do it you know what i'm saying that's what i'm trying to say i just think he's you guys give him that out which is to say like yeah it would be like if everybody at this table made 10 million dollars a year and there's one guy who made a million dollars a year and we're like yeah but he chooses to make a million dollars a year he just want to make a million dollars like he likes it that's He would just rather have a million.

2:46:06Ten million is crazy. My whole thing is, it's disingenuine to say that Kendrick is a much better rapper than Drake when Drake has more bars than Kendrick. Like, he has more punches. He has more bars. Kendrick might have a lot more depth in his music, a lot more concepts. It might be more meaningful. Let's see if Drake make a rigor mortis. He would have a hard time doing that. Yeah, he would. But what's rigor mortis heavily relying on? A nimble flow. Well, who does he have on the remix? Buster Rhymes. Who did I make the comparison with? Who can do a better job of doing the other person? That's the whole point.

2:46:39That's the whole point. Imagine Kendrick making an Afro song. Give me the option. Who can do a better job that can do the other one? What's harder? One person does two genres and one person does almost every genre. Wait. Here's the thing. Kendrick used to try to flip that style back in the day. I'm not saying that. And he was getting outshined by his own homies because Absol does what I'm describing. Exactly. No, but his own homies. He can't answer the Drake question. No, the answer is Drake. Drake is better at flipping different styles, which I said from the beginning. No rapper has ever had more of a reputation for being able to do a lot of different styles.

2:47:13It's to the point where he's maligned over it. Yeah, I'm sure I've heard Game make a lot of Afrobeat songs. No, yeah. I'm not sure I've heard Game put out a club album. Game has literally two bags. I've heard Game get on so many New York drill beats. Yeah, no, Game has a New York bag and a West Coast bag, and that's it. What I enjoy about Drake is what you guys are saying. I enjoy the digestible music. I enjoy that. I get to listen to it and I hear it clearly and the consumable part. That's what I like about Drake. You listen to Kendrick when you miss college. No, I listen to Kendrick when I'm with my wife and when I'm chilling and I'm just.

2:47:44You want to be lectured to a little bit? Miss college. This ain't crazy. I listen to Kanye for that. You're slapping Kendrick. I watch the Spoletic Justice channel when I want to get that Kendrick effect of like having like somebody yell at me about politics. What do you do when you listen to music? What do you do when you listen to rap? It depends on what you look at. I primarily use my ears. But what are you doing? A lot of things. Like what? Almost everything. I don't know. It's like such a fucking lame baiting question. I don't want to answer it. You want me to name everything that I do in my life?

2:48:16If you're out with the bitches, who are you slapping? Drake or Kendrick? Okay, boom. This is an easy question, but why is it so hard for you to say something? For me to acknowledge that there are things that I do in my life? Because it's such a stupid question. Obviously, I listen to music when I do everything. Kendrick's house cleaning music. Boom. If I'm not pot, okay, well, I don't know. It's chilling with your wife and it's chilling like over here doing this. Like I listen to different types of music for different things. That's insane. You must not love your wife because that is fucked up.

2:48:40You're scaring the hoes. Not that she's a ho, but you're scaring the hoes. Putting Kendrick on around girls is like seriously like asking them to not fuck you. Maybe that's what you need to do with a lot of girls. My wife has never, ever, ever listened to a Kendrick Lamar album. I believe you. Ever. But somebody would appreciate a Q50. I've never listened to Q50 with her either. Let's go. Mikey Mom did. That's cool, but I've never listened to Q50 with my wife either, for the record. But what I'm saying is there's different music for different things. When you're chilling and doing stuff, I don't always want to listen to some Wu-Tang.

2:49:18But that's a pro-Drake argument because Drake makes all different kinds of music. Kendrick is kind of one note in comparison. But he doesn't make you sit in. For me, Drake doesn't make me sit and chill and think and be on some elevated shit. I don't know. Kendrick's way headier. But Drake is, I think, technically like the more complex rapper. Your problem is that you can't take the compliment of what I'm saying. He's obtuse. He's intentionally being obtuse. And you know enough about lyricism to get that point. But I just told you that's what I enjoy about this fucker. But that's not what I enjoy Kendrick for.

2:49:50I enjoy Kendrick for what I enjoy him for. but I'm mature enough to say that I think they're both fucking dope as fuck. But motherfucking Drake is for one thing and Kendrick is for another thing when I want to be on some fucking elevator. But guess what though? But I don't take a stance. If you fuck with Drake, it's fuck Kendrick. No, it's not. Never. I'm never kidding. That is insane. I have talked on this podcast at length about how much I like GNX, how many Kendrick, I have a lot of respect for Kendrick. You're totally painting me with a false brush. It's okay to love both. It's okay to love both.

2:50:25You gave him a history book and gave him a pointer to point out the talk board. I'm saying he makes Pulitzer Prize-ass music. But then you debunked how many radio hits he got. Man, this is the same commercial. What are you talking about? I can acknowledge he has a lot. Number one, didn't say anything about that. Number two, yay, obviously he has huge radio hits. I'm just saying Drake has infinitely more. This is the same argument people used to make about Jay-Z and Nas. And Jay-Z is Drake and Kendrick is Nas. Yeah, it's eerie how similar it is. Same exact thing. And Nas will take something that's very simple and rap about it in a very complicated way, kind of like Kendrick does.

2:51:00And Drake will take something very complicated and crystallize it into its most simple form. In 2026, nobody argues that Nas has a better back catalog than Jay-Z. Because he's not the commercial type dude. He chose to be the sincere off belly digger. Because we have a lot of distance on the Jay-Z and Nas thing. like obviously Kendrick and Drake their careers are like still unfolding and they're more recent and everything but as much as Nas had like was generally viewed to have won the battle and as much as Nas is we had all the respect for being the hardcore lyricist or whatever Jay-Z is regarded as having the far superior catalog the far superior hits the far superior classic albums and guess what and guess what well Jay-Z never made an Illmatic and Drake never made a good kid Mad City He does not have an album close to that.

2:51:52No, he doesn't. They all have classic albums that take care is infinitely more impactful for the long term. They talk about battles and wars. Take care is more impactful than Good Kid. I don't know about now. It's still like on the charts right now. Perhaps commercially. I'm saying that's the impact. But overall, Good Kid and Mad City is still considered one of the 10 to 20 best albums in hip hop history. I would say that those two albums are probably like pretty neck and neck in terms of like cultural impact than classic signature debut albums. No, I would say Good Kid, Mad City definitely gets the edge on that.

2:52:23And just like Illmatic is better than Reasonable Doubt. No, Take Care is a great album. Reasonable Doubt is a great album. You can't take anything from Reasonable Doubt, even though Illmatic is... Illmatic is a better album. Yes, for sure. Significantly. Reasonable Doubt kind of... I mean, it's got a bunch of good songs, but let's be real, it's kind of cringe. What is? Reasonable Doubt. No, I love Reasonable Doubt. The beats age like milk and shit. It's just like the sound sonically has not aged as well as Illmatic. To me, Illmatic sounds more like something that I could see people wanting to listen to in this day and age.

2:52:57Would you say Nas is more musically inclined? Well, I mean, yeah, but he didn't make the beats. He just had some of the greatest beats of all time. Yeah, yeah, Pete Rock and DJ Premier and literally the best Q-Tip. He had the best production lineup in history on that album. That's why. Large Professor. Hey, but guess what? When he feel like it, he can make an Uchi Wally Wally. Right. I mean like and that's kind of similar to Dot right and that's what I said when he felt like he and that's what I'm trying to point out he do shit because he felt like it but there's a lot of elements of rapping that Jay-Z is far superior to Nas that he doesn't get credit for much like Drake doesn't get the credit he deserves in being better than Kendrick in a lot of things but what's another thing that Jay-Z gets that Drake gets?

2:53:38Money and hoes but that a lot of Biggie flow a lot of this a lot of taking that. And I'm not saying it's a bad thing because it does submit your future, you know what I mean? And Nas has a song where he's a gun, and he has another song where he raps backwards the story back to front. He did a lot of things that Kendrick-esque. And so the... I never did that. I never put them up against each other. In comparison, it's a great comparison. I think it's uncanny. It's been so stunningly clear to me throughout the battle that this is the exact same thing. And I also think that understanding the Jay and Nas situation is instructive when it comes to understanding how things are going to play out in the long run, which is that in the long run, once we have more perspective, it's going to be obvious that A, Drake kind of unfairly lost the battle off of the charisma that Ether had at that time.

2:54:36Oh, he's talking about Jay. Jay, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Sorry. But I would say that it's the same. Okay, so clearly, I think it's almost like a majority opinion at this point that Jay-Z kind of unfairly lost the battle against Nas. And that really, if you look at those songs objectively, I don't go for it. I think in the long run, even I'm seeing it happen now, that Drake's songs from that period of time are being viewed more favorably. And people kind of look at it as almost simplistic to say, oh, Not Like Us came out and that was just the end of everything. Like Drake put out a lot of great records in that time period.

2:55:09But I think in the long run, when you really look at the careers of Drake and Kendrick, it's going to be so unbelievably obvious who had the better overall career. Well, Jay-Z hasn't dropped. Nas just dropped. Well, yeah, Nas has a lot of longevity. But what does Nas do? Nas drops albums like he doesn't give a fuck about how they sell, which is something that I think Jay-Z's ego is too big to do that. I like to not give a fuck about the sale, though. I know. I think it's dope, too. But Nas is having fun. But then once you drop an album, and I don't know what Nas does, but maybe it does 15K in this climate first week, that, from Jay-Z's perspective, he cannot handle that.

2:55:46That is way too crazy of a blow to his ego. I even feel like Jay-Z probably doesn't want to drop because he's not going to be in the 200K plus club. Or maybe he is. But I feel like he's not going to like the visual of him selling distinctly less than Kendrick and Drake. He wants to be viewed as top tier. He's been wanting to retire. The motherfucking Black album was supposed to be his last album. That was 2004. He was trying to retire after Reasonable Doubt. He was talking about it and seeding that long ago. Yeah, well, really, the Black album was when he's like, okay, I'm fading to black. This is the end of my career.

2:56:21You're going to appreciate me more after I'm gone. And granted, a lot of people knew that it was bullshit and it was kind of a marketing strategy, but he's been wanting to retire for a long time because of exactly what Adam said. He would rather be at the top of his game when he drops, as opposed to doing what he was talking about with 50 Cent, who kind of his sales were dwindling. He was losing relevance and importance. He lost the battle to Kanye with the sales. And that's the best argument for why Jay-Z took 10 years off that isn't that he can't make hot music. The best argument is to say he never wanted to be that guy anyway.

2:56:56And he's also 60 years old and a billionaire. He's a 60-year-old billionaire. I was just thinking it right now. like you know what maybe that was never the direction you wanted to go but like you said 200 000 jay-z's gonna sell a lot of albums no matter how the album because it comes out because it's it stands and fans that are going to want to do that you know i mean they're going to support jay-z but i don't think if he had a cracking ass album i would love that shit for him i'm slapping reasonable doubt when i leave by the way the thing about being 52 or whatever is that like every year that goes by it gets harder and harder for the world to imagine you putting out an album that people give a fuck about.

2:57:32Even when he put out 444, it felt like an old head putting out an album. It was a dope contemporary. It was not trash. It was a popular album. It was well-liked. It got very resoundingly positive. Commercial response. It sold pretty well. But ultimately, even at that time, it just felt like, wow, this guy's old. By the way, much of he hates East Coast music. He said it before. He don't even like New York music. I think when you get that age, you shouldn't be competing and worried about numbers that much because it's a young man's game. Well, but to be fair, he just put an album out. It's not like he really did anything to indicate that he cared about.

2:58:10When you're a legend in the OG, you shouldn't be worried about. But Jay-Z's whole career has been like an expert managing of his image. You know, like Beyonce, I'm sure he's in love with her or whatever. But like that clearly was like the best thing that he could possibly do. When he left Dame, I was watching a Dame interview today where he talks about this on Art of Dialogue or some shit, where Dame says that when Jay cut him loose, he came to him and said, I want to be viewed as a boss. And I don't think I can or as a businessman, rather. And I don't think I can be viewed as a businessman while I continue to be working with you, which is a pretty brutal thing to say.

2:58:46But obviously it was clearly true, but that shows you that in like 2001 that Jay-Z was that concerned with managing his reputation and his image. He's just not the kind of guy that's going to leave that shit to chance. Remember the clips of him with Dame where he's clearly super annoyed. Dame's like talking about all the big shit they got popping and Jay's like rolling his eyes next to him. I mean, Dame was the kind of pompous asshole that it's hard to imagine any rapper being able to tolerate in the long run. Well, also, yeah, yeah, Harlem and Brooklyn. But the thing is, Jay was very opportunistic.

2:59:20He basically had Dame as his bulldog, was able to maintain all these great relationships in the industry because it was Dame that was pissing everything off for Jay, trying to gain leverage for Jay, and then he kicked him to the curb and then was able to go off on his own. I've been in that position, like, actually early days of No Jumper with somebody that I won't name, but, like, I had an employee who, like a real employee, I'm not talking about a podcast host, but he basically like at the exact time that i stopped doing drugs stopped drinking started living like a way more normal life started like really working hard on the business of no jumper this motherfucker gets like way more into drinking lean and being fucked up all the time and shit like that easiest person i ever fired because when i'm trying to clean up my life and i'm looking at you like the one who's like not dragging me back into it because i didn't give a fuck what he was professionalism just gets magnified so much when the boss is like trying to be more professional yeah because the mirror is up at that point yeah it's like holy fuck yeah um so you said the 52 year old thing how did you guys feel about uh let god sort him out how did you feel about the clips album i thought it was a great album okay i thought it was a great album but i also thought that The reaction to it was kind of manufactured.

3:00:35I think that the old guard of hip-hop media came together with the Roc Nation side of things, and they really painted a picture of the album being more impactful than it actually was. But that being said, I'm a huge Clips fan my whole life. You're from the blog era. You remember they were the media darlings. They were literally the hipster rappers of choice. But when you see them like winning album of the year or whatever, people arguing they should win album of the year over albums that from my perspective were just massively like more impactful. And I hate that. I feel like Elliot Wilson now because I keep saying impactful.

3:01:11But you know what I mean? Like, it's like I feel like with the clips, there's a sense that this album has been talked about so much in the media that it must be the biggest album of the year. And in reality, what determines what's the biggest album of the year should be based on the people in the streets. And realistically, the sound of the streets is not Pusha T at 47. Well, that's the thing, though. A lot of the media that were extolling the virtues of that album are 47. That's what I'm saying. That's why it resonated with them. And because there are very few young people in hip hop media, for obvious reasons, they're dumb and they can't talk.

3:01:46No offense. I would hire you if there was any other version of that. But like the albums that they love get discounted on a, on a, on a critical level because the people who are like really driving the narrative are oftentimes older. Well, yeah, because there's a lot of dudes like coming from the newer scene, like the dudes like Lilo dudes, like B six and shit like that, who don't get mentioned, who should get way more press, who should be in those conversations. But I would argue that a lot of the top media platforms aren't even aware they exist. I don't know who the fuck you're talking about.

3:02:19There you go. I heard you said his B6 name was fucked. He's raw as fuck. He dropped an amazing record this year. And you do know who he is because we've talked about him. And when you had the kids on the little underground podcast, they were talking about him too. Hey, so we can acknowledge it's a such thing as a popular vote. You know what I mean? And if you ain't really commercial with it, ain't nobody going to give a fuck. Because Pusha T clearly smoked Drake just recently. But nobody cared because he not the polished. He did. I mean, I wouldn't say nobody cares. Probably like one of the most talked about hip hop beasts of all time.

3:02:52Probably one of the most. It wasn't even effective. Bro, exposing Drake's kid was like one of the most impactful. What? I mean, that. You just can't beat Drake. You're not going to beat him to a pulp. He's not going to survive. It didn't like destroy Drake's career. Even Kendrick, who's like a way more formidable foe than Pusha T, wasn't able to destroy Drake's career. But I think when people look at that, I mean, like, Pusha got more of a W than anybody up to that point until Kendrick. People don't care about good rapping, really. Like, a lot of the best diss tracks get really overlooked. Like, the game Pest Control against Meek Mill.

3:03:25No one gives a fuck about that song. No one gives a fuck about that beef. But that was, he destroyed Meek Mill on that song. Yeah. Eradicated it. Gossip and hit records are way more important when it comes to, like, how well regarded a diss record is. But that doesn't change the fact that, like, you know. But real musicians, when you go find out the remedy of making a hit song slash hit this record, people got to bop to it and shake ass. Yeah, because just being good at rapping is almost never going to win. I'm going to take your head off and take it to the back and slam it like Shaq. All that shit is played out.

3:04:00Like, okay. Hit him up, Ether, and Not Like Us. They have a lot in common. Really, the West Coast. Take this, though. What about after, okay, Kendrick Josh, Not Like Us, everybody goes crazy for it, and let's say that the ace is up his sleeves, that Drake was kind of promising that he had were real. Let's say that the next song Drake drops, he drops undeniable proof that Dave Free is the father to one of Kendrick's kids. That's a way gnarlier reveal than Drake having a secret kid because really having a secret kid is kind of like whatever. That would be gnarly. It's embarrassing. I know, but I'm just saying like if that was true because Drake was kind of like, let's say that Drake was able to take huge hit record, not like us, and be like, okay, In response, here's the most insane gossip that is, like, so damaging to how people view you.

3:04:54Would it have been able to in any way outweigh Not Like Us, which was a huge hit record, but didn't really, like, drop that much that, like, really landed in terms of, like, personal attacks. It would have to sound really good or else, or else. Because basically what Pusha T did was essentially Wendy Williams-type material. Oh, guess what, guys? Guess what? oh 40's got cancer or he's got a disease. Kendricks was kind of lacking in that regard because yes he did like have the pedophile bars but then like there wasn't really like any evidence that came after that. It was just a damaging angle. You call it Whitney Williams?

3:05:30Yes. That's battle rap though. Doing your homework and coming at you. Right but it has to be Whitney Williams? Well it was at a point but then at a certain point people kind of evolved past that and personal attacks weren't as impactful as just rapping really good. But also, like, for example, there's this famous battle, Big K versus Adi Boom, right, where he wound up exposing him as a snitch and passed out the paperwork. A lot of y 'all seen it. It was a viral clip. The snitch boy, snitch boy. The only reason that hit the way it did is because not only was it very damaging information, but he delivered it in such a dope way and the actual rapping was on such a high level.

3:06:11So that's not Wendy Williams either, right? It is, but it has to be Wendy Williams. It has to sound good. That was my whole point. But was this face-to-face battle? Yes, that was a face-to-face battle. The thing about battle rap is that you're just not going to be able to bust out revealing expose-style info every battle. Right. And a lot of these battles, I thought battle rap was so much cooler when I was younger, when I thought that these dudes hated each other and the battling actually seemed more rare. and then as i got older and i realized like oh fuck like geechi got his battling a motherfucker like every two weeks yeah that just kind of like made it lose some of the allure that i have he's a great example what about when like the whole geechi versus easy battle though when he was on the prop correct like that that right there that was super impactful and if you can bring that in for sure that's going to be massively meaningful all the crypt shit and battle rap and like people seeming more menacing or like having a bigger gang with them or whatever like that shit does move the needle with them.

3:07:11For sure. What was the guy's name that had the suit on and he was like... Loaded Lux. That one with Busta Rhymes up in the record. You gonna get this work. That shit was one of the coldest shits. He was talking about his father. Your father should have... I was like, okay. When we talk about the old days of Lush when you were still drunk, we should call you Loaded Lush. Loaded Lush. I've definitely heard that before. Do you feel like you're good now? You're not going to relapse? I'm not going to relapse, but that's only because I put such an insane amount of effort every single day. My disease takes no days off.

3:07:44My enemies take no days off. My demons take no days off. So I can't. Like, even when I'm tired, no matter what's going on. But you're still staying in the sober living spot? Yeah, I live in a sober living house. And you don't have your apartment or you do? No, that's gone now. Oh, okay. That's literally my residence is a sober living house. So when you move out of the sober living, where are you going to move? I'm actually moving. When I move out of the sober living house, I'm moving into a sober apartment. That's still affiliated with that where I'm still going to be drug tested. and I'll probably be within that system for the remainder of the year.

3:08:09I mean, I don't mean just this year. I mean, like, for the next year type shit. That's sick. Hey, you should take the Whitney Williams shit back, and that's what Battle Rap is built off of. And they do homework and they dish all of it. Okay, but do you not understand what he meant? No, I don't. I feel like it's pretty easy to understand. I'm trying to get understanding because that's wild. In Battle Rap, there is a lot of people who, over the years, have had extremely viral moments from exposing each other and bringing out information that they were able to research and come up with that the fans didn't know about.

3:08:35What do you not do? But it has to be wrapped in a good... No, no, listen, Munchie. I said that because I'd be like... My whole point, when I brought up Wendy Williams, I said it would have to be done in a way where it's really good rapping and it was creative and it was dope, or else Wendy Williams would be the best rapper and make the best diss tracks if it was just based on salacious information being offered. It would have to be done in a creative way. Oh, so you're saying that Pujetid didn't deliver it. He did. No, I think that was a great diss track. And he smoked Drake, undeniably. He won.

3:09:08And it wasn't just based on him revealing crazy information. It was the fact that he did it in such a creative way. That's why that song was impactful. Because Pusha T is very cerebral and he knows how to attack and he knows how to battle. There's many elements to it. It's chest, not checkers. Do you think this battle with the latest, the Drake shit, with the G and X and all that stuff, and Drake surviving that shit and dropping Iceman and doing FOMO, do you think that Drake has like just submitted himself as in like nigga I am unbeatable I'm unstoppable well yeah like whatever he's kind of like Wolverine he's like Wolverine he sustained a very damaging blow and bounced back when a lot of people had counted him out I knew he was going to be straight but there was a lot of people in LA rap media making statements that in retrospect seem pretty freaking hilarious he's out of here the Instagram post that Dajon did of an old DJ head tweet where he was saying like this energy of Kendrick and GNX like this shit gonna last forever like the west coast is back and it's just like literally nothing has happened since then.

3:10:15People were writing checks they couldn't cash that's for sure Munchie's gonna try to argue it by bringing up some random shit. Drake is uncounselable like you can't cancel the nigga bro you can't talk about oh he finished it's not possible he lost but he can't finish him. There were like people who made that argument at the time now I want to act like they never made that argument. No other rapper has been attacked that brutally since Ja Rule. And Ja Rule did not come back from it. Fyre Festival. Fyre Fest was way after the fact. He just kept going lower and lower. Spottom got him got it worse.

3:10:47Ja Rule had it worse for sure because in the beginning, that was neck and neck. Okay, but to be fair, Ja Rule got it from like one dude and one rap crew, but like really kind of like one dude. Yeah, Tony Yeo's shooting at him. Lloyd Banks, Eminem at bars. We need Eminem and then Busta Rhymes hopped in the room and then they rapped over the Hail Mary beat. It was impressive, but it really is like a pretty small group of people in comparison to how many people teamed up against Drake. Right, no, for sure. Game help. There was a lot. Yeah, but I'm saying that's like almost nobody really like actively got behind Drake.

3:11:23Rapper-wise. Do you think anybody's even paying attention to the mother niggas talking on the side other than Drake and Kendrick? Nobody was paying attention. Because who of significance? Who of significance? Metro, Future. Nobody listens to Kanye. Yeah, Metro. Did Kanye do it? Like, it's shit. You basically have to list off, like, all the biggest rappers. ASAP Rocky. You mean shit? You think people listen to a Kanye diss towards Drake during that? Back and forth. Oh, okay. Let's just act like Kanye's a random rapper. Well, I think a lot of people care. What's happening to the soul? I think that's a good point.

3:11:50I like that remix. But either way, I was the one who leaked it. I had it before everybody else. Either way, all I'm saying, you're acting now like Kanye West dissing you is not a big deal on a rap beef. obviously Kanye's one of the biggest rappers well Future even allowing him to be on the song going back and forth nobody paid attention to that little Kanye diss Kendrick entering the chat for real and Kendrick kind of set it off to be fair with the like that verse but I think also people were tripping wow Metro we all thought he was Drake's man at the time and Future we all thought was Drake's man at the time and he allowed a verse to be on a song with his homie being diss that he has two records with Kendrick, Future, Rick Ross, Kanye West, A$AP Rocky, The Weeknd, Meek Mill.

3:12:33That's not true. Meek Mill didn't go out there? Not during this. He's not the hottest beast, it sounds like. Actually, Meek Mill is one of the weirdest beefs that Drake ever squashed. When you think about how much he didn't have to. No, he sunned him is what he did. He did the same thing that... He straight up fucking sunned him. Yeah, that was very Nas-ish. Yeah, he put him on... And then he smoked him in the battle. and then he put him on the last song that he's had that was even somewhat relevant. I got more hits than the Beatles. That's the last Meek song we remember. Yeah, and it's just so crazy that you would have thought that Drake getting back cool with Meek Mill would have really helped Meek Mill's career and then it felt like it did nothing.

3:13:14It took away from what people thought he was. His aura was shattered. Because think about it. If Meek Mill had stayed anti-Drake, then when Kendrick came at him, Meek Mill would have looked so justified I've been telling y 'all If he had made himself the ultimate Drake Op during those 10 years Or whatever, 7 years It would have left him in a pretty good position at that time It just made him look so Well the cold part is Because Meek hasn't had the Ability to create music that really resonates Since then And the one time he has since that beef Was with Drake But I think Meek out of all rappers benefited the most of not knowing who he was.

3:13:56Explain that. People not knowing who he is. You know what I mean? I feel like through the Nicki Minaj, through the Drake shit, people found out who he was. Well, then he was... He was retarded. I think... Hot take. Hot take. Hot take. Twitter did more damage to Meek Mill than Drake. People finding out how his brain works was worse than what Drake did to him. And I'm not denying that what Drake did to him was very, very bad. But us knowing that he's slow, That was a real kill shit. It's a perfect storm for a fall off. And then you throw Ak in there. They're like, yeah, Ak beefs with a lot of rappers, but him and Meek was the earliest time you could really remember a rapper and a media personality.

3:14:35Meek was self-inflicted. You could tell he was raised by just his mom. He committed suicide by tweet. Well, he was also supposed to put on the different fools from his city and the whole Poundside slide pop controversy. He's beefing with his artists and all that. He would have benefited from being more like Kendrick. Yeah, for sure. out of the spotlight and being away. More like... Exactly. That's such a good point, though, because Kendrick, if Kendrick did... No, but Kendrick would be alright. I think he's not, like, bubbly enough or, like, energetic enough to, like, be outside and around the people all the time.

3:15:07I don't know if it would necessarily be good for him, but, like, Meek Mill's good at that shit. Meek Mill can be out with the people, hanging out. That's good. You put him by himself with his phone, it's a problem. So who's been a better look for Philly? Meek Mill or Lil Uzi Vert? Right now? Overall. Uzi hasn't really like embarrassed himself Uzi's had a way better career significantly even though the highest high of Meek Mill's career that one song yeah Beans of Nightmares I still listen to that song like at least once a week that's a higher high than anything that really has happened with Uzi play that at my funeral Benny where did Beanie Seagull Beanie's from Philly yeah yeah yeah and Freeway give me them yeah for real yeah yeah take me but Beanie's my favorite Philly rapper besides Black Thought Uzi and Meek Mill became way bigger than them I know but I still will take of Beanie Song.

3:15:52But really, when you actually attempt to dig into Beanie Seagull's catalog, you get reminded that there's not that much great prime Beanie Seagull. And I actually got some information about that from hearing Wano talk about working with him. Basically said that Beanie Seagull, a lot of rappers just rap all the time, make music. He did not. He was like, make a good song and go to the studio and change a word. Change a couple words. But he was not like cranking out dope music he's on a lot of drugs he has one lung i mean there's a lot of things that he just had a slow he always had one lung no oh this is no right like yeah yeah i want to say like 2014 2015 and that's also passive but like if you really look the the the crowning moments of beanie seagull's career is the late 90s to like 2006 yeah yeah realistically the latest because 2006 was like him signing to jay-z's death jam right well once he what him and jay got into of beef and he had a whole diss song average cat and that was kind of when he was on his way out but I'm a huge Beanie Seagull fan I gotta start reading these donations so that we can get out of here by a El Grandes Lobo said Adam please don't ever stop bullying Doughboy he's so thirsty for a W he challenged Munchy to a cooking contest on their live the other day lines in the chat and shout out to my Vietnamese homie Rios he's a different race every time every day He challenged most, man.

3:17:18You're from Zion, homie. You're the last child of Zion. Challenging Munchie to a cookie contest. Hey, populate the chat with lions, homie. Oh, shit. Ty Sheiky sent 10 and said, we need the Munchie B tier. Fuck whack. Oh, shit. The Munchie pack. The Munchie B tier is an IRL stream that follows him around 24-7, though. You get to watch him sleep and shit. That's about$30 ,000 for that backpack I heard. Well, you're going to use some of that$10 ,000. That ain't how much ours costs. Oh, we didn't get to it, but. And you tried to get out of it. What? You trying to get out of this nigga? What? You's a bullshit nigga, bro.

3:17:51What? You flocko-ish. What? What? Nigga, you owe me some money, bro. You lost. Oh, I did not. Oh, man, you for sure lost, bro. Even the standard that I said, I said that Crip Mac hasn't, and by the way, we've talked about this on the podcast way too much, but I said - No, no, no, no. We talked - I said a million views. You didn't come up with that. You didn't say that at the beginning. Yes, I did. You said - 10 ,000 views. 10 ,000 views. I don't actually think that like a million views on a random clip is actually indicative of it being viral. But you also weren't even able to come up with that.

3:18:20So, bro. But that was the standard that we agreed on on this podcast. There's a record of it. So were you lying in the beginning of that interview? Saying what? That you said he was iconic. I just. It was iconic to like me and AD. It was iconic to like a handful of people in the office that were sharing his clips back and forth. because at that time, Cribmac was a legend to us in the No Jumper group chat, which was probably like four people or some shit. It was like not like, you know, I was exaggerating in the interview. I'm calling him viral and like hyping him up like he was so big when he wasn't.

3:18:53You were blowing smoke up his ass? Of course, I do that all the time. Yeah. I feel like this dude, if he don't want to lose a conversation or an argument, he will never. No, I'm like, listen, I've admitted when I was wrong all the time. I'm a poker player, so if I'm proven wrong, I'll pay it up. But nobody's proven I was wrong. Oh, wait, this is why he apologized to Spodeyface and be like, look, I always admit what I'm wrong. No, but that's what I was wrong. He was thinking about the 10 ,000? I just want you guys to put a pin in this because we've had this exact conversation on this podcast 15 times.

3:19:20We only had it once. No, over and over. We always have the conversation where every time when I apologize for something, everybody acts like it's the first time it's ever happened. And it's just like, I don't know why. I just have to apologize for way more things. Yes. To the point where people just always have it fresh in their memory. but it's just like the idea that i don't apologize when i admit when i'm wrong on here so much more readily than everybody else is crazy this one just seemed like it seemed more genuine what this body face one yeah it's not like you really meant it like you and you went out you said it seemed like you sat on it and thought on it i felt like i went against my personal code um come town who's by the way the best person on here he said adam i haven't forgot you called me gay last week i was gonna slide on a jumper every day until i realized that's how i know you really love me.

3:20:07Adam only bullies his real friends. I'm still finna slide though. Mikey, watch out. Is that a dope boy? He's way funnier. I'll put Comptown on the pod before Dogo any day. Imagine how many drugs Dogo is on right now. Yeah, I think cocaine and alcohol. Bro, I'm scared for him though because you cannot be morbidly obese 47 and drinking and doing coke. The fact that he denies his cocaine You can't do all those at the same time. He tried to convince me he had a surgery. On what? A weight loss. He did. He told us that too. What, like a gastric bypass? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know how to fancy that.

3:20:46And it went the way of Flacco's surgery or what? I mean. It was when he was like 500 pounds. Oh, yeah, that's right. No, no, he did. Joe Boy is like 300-something pounds, but he used to be 500. He was a lot bigger back in the day. Fat dudes on no jumper getting surgery don't work out. Well. No, no, no. Fat Jules on no jumper getting surgeries don't work out. I still haven't really seen Flacco. I don't know if he's skinny or fat. He looks like he was losing weight. And that's why there is a tiny part of me that feels like he made up the car accident so that he wouldn't have to come back. No, it's on the news.

3:21:16A positive. Oh. Yeah, there's literally. It's on North Dakota News. But maybe he got in the car accident on purpose. He killed somebody? Nah, he got a hairline. He got a hairline. He wasn't driving. He was like, Flacco was supposed to do Vlad out here, too. and I mean I'm not saying that he was like nervous about it but was he maybe nervous didn't want that to come up did he maybe get in a car accident on purpose and kill somebody so that he could not have a good excuse to not come sounds like a headline to me the Maybach is gone damn my my my Maybach Flacco's first body on accident yeah but he got the two jobs tattoo anyway the Hickler man okay Ant-Nee said Lush do you remember that rap battle where the guy said that he cakes bread and choked hard as fuck?

3:22:02Talking about my boy Chuck from Arizona. That was actually reviewed by Charlie A.K. Penguin Zero. He was trying to say that he bakes bread and he said cakes bread? Oh, it's a Crip thing. No, no. It was a white dude who was one of the worst performers. Penguin Zero did a video about it called the cringest rap battle ever. You just said it wrong? Yeah. I need to see that. Plus the Cal is on me. I actually hosted the battle. The Cal is on me It was amazing. Munchy Left Eye said, did Nick Una smoke crack with Hunter Sidon? I sure did. You better. That interview, he had some really funny name flips with the - Hunter Biden, Krip Mag.

3:22:41I only made it like 20 minutes in. I couldn't handle it. Cran Risk. Q Blessey said, since the Amp Cypher dropped, can we get the No Jumper Cypher? We're talking about doing it, man. Let's do it. What about Friday? We do a little lock-in, do a pod. We all go like rap. Cypher? Yeah. Could we get every - Okay. Who's on the cypher though? Us four. Yeah. Doughboy. Moose Man. Ricky. Doughboy claiming he's the best rapper from No Jumper ever. Yeah he is. You're sitting there just smoke coming out of your ears. I think that there's a good seven of us that could make a cypher. Plus Moose, Doughboy, Ricky.

3:23:16Who else? I think that's it. I feel like Spody might not be in the mood. Spody could be on there too. He did apologize. If he was down, I mean he re-followed on IG for real he re-followed me he rapped in that cypher that he did or not he did he did he had the bet one of the better he had he had I said he had the fifth best verse and he got super mad but he did have a dope verse yeah yeah let's talk more about Friday that'll be cool R Walk said Rios is a hater he can't believe a woman is sad over Doughboy but wants us to believe that he snuck in as a janitor and then built rockets with Elon That's a very good Will Hunting ask right there.

3:23:58I really said it. You solve it equations on the chalkboard? Elon walks in like, the man who solved this equation is a genius. Who is he? There's no way he's a gang member from Long Beach. I'll hire him. Look, and I ghost rode the whip into mission control too. And jumped off the bike. And took off. Took it and just hit the big old glass. Like, I got some crazy stories. You was sideshowing the Rockets? Dude, I was like, I was going through, I was fucked up too. Did you ever meet Grimes? Did you ever meet Grimes, the white girl he used to date? Did you ever meet Elon's trans daughter? Not binary.

3:24:36Or his fucking rapist dad? I don't know who Grimes is. Allegedly. Not rapist, but his dad, like, oh my God, you got to watch the Vlad interviews about it. But Elon Musk's dad is like dating like a woman that was his stepdaughter that he was raising when she was like five. And then he ends up getting a relationship with her like 30 years ago. Like Woody Allen. Worse. Wasn't Woody Allen's chick in her teens? Well, yeah, no. He did meet Sun Yi. Suki Uno. Okay, yeah, but also. Suki Uno, dog. Suki Uno. Woody Allen was dating her as a teenager, whereas Elon Musk's dad waited until like 30 years later, which, I mean, whatever.

3:25:18They're both pretty fucking weird. Fucking nasty. Stepdaddy. Although that is one of the most popular little searches, right? Like, yeah, you're not allowed to do that. Only for example or something. It's kind of creepy. OK, the original sin said lush. You're my absolute favorite. So don't take this wrong way. You're supposed to be gaining weight after putting that pookie down. My boy, why are you getting thinner? Get it together. I believe in you. I brought this up to him the other day. I'm like super. I'm in like the best shape I've ever been is a cold part. But I do need to gain weight. I need to bulk up.

3:25:47But like, I like the fact that I'm not fat. Feels really good. I feel like way more nimble and I'm stronger than I've ever been. Like I could hit more pushups. I could do more exercises. I could carry shit. I'll beat. Yeah, he would hit. Rotterdam said, lush looking like a PS2 GTA character. That's me. Cashin Sumo said, every single pod y 'all hating on Doughboy, don't y 'all get tired. Dude is a nice guy. Let him be. Get off his meat. I feel like you. Doughboy murder detected. Despite knowing that we talk about Doughboy a lot, he seems to be pretty oblivious to all the conversations that we have had about him.

3:26:20He's a good sport about it. I'll say that. like Doughboy's not dumb he's fucking dope I love Doughboy like he's good for that's the thing we might get on Doughboy helmet just like we get on each other helmet people be on my helmet but there's love there Doughboy is still our friend despite the fact that we all hate him um Wody Wody has been a Whackback member for six months he says Spody don't have that same energy for Whack that he has on you I mean to be real he's been making infinite videos about Whackback Yeah, he kind of hates Wack, don't he? I don't know about currently. He hates him. He has like a zillion videos about Wack.

3:26:55He was definitely tripping on him after that whole. So he's getting tired of this shit. Although maybe he doesn't make Wack videos anymore ever since he got his channel deleted. I don't know. I don't think he, I don't know if he's tripping on him at this point. I think when me and Spody do our pod, I'm going to have to ask him about that. Juan P said, Nice white and blue ice t-shirt, Rios. Damn, that's what that is. That's a fire shirt. No evil here, no evil. Rios is banging Blue Lives Matter, I think. Hillock's driver said, Adam, you should have interviewed Munchie's brother instead of King Pill.

3:27:26Who's your brother? Little Munchie? That I hear so much about? Nah, he from Christian Mafia. His name is Munchie, too. Oh. Should we talk to him? Is he cool? Yeah. Let me see. If y 'all want to, he ain't no camera light nigga like that. Oh, okay. The Munchie lineage. ATL Nola said, y 'all driving me crazy with letting Lush spin what happened. He lied to Adam saying Spody went at him. Tell Lush how much of a snake he is. Damn. I am not even going to allow you to have that conversation right now because I don't want to fucking dig into that. Honestly, I'll just say one thing. He said no. Thank God.

3:28:00Real quick. We need to talk about this one. No, no. I'll say honestly, just because of the sheer volume of people that disagree with me, maybe I need to examine. Maybe I was a little bit wrong and I'm willing to look at that because I don't feel like I did anything wrong. But so many people, it seems to be an overwhelming consensus. I am open to looking at that. Great accountability. Billy, look. See you apologizing rubbed off on us. You haven't seen that? Pause, by the way. Rubbed off on him is pause. Yo, that's so funny. That's the real you. That's the real you.

3:28:35It's loud. Say, you should bring Kev on stage and ask him what happened with him and Doboy. I would love to. Yes, you should. Hook it up. Somebody tell him. I think he's two baiters. I think I DM'd him. Go pod. Kev on stage. You used to pause with Doboy. It's one of those things that Doughboy don't want to talk about, but they had a bad falling out. Okay, okay. I know what you're talking about now. But we don't really know what happened. Me neither. Clyde Drexler said, which, by the way, definitely the real Clyde Drexler said, That's him. Not going to lie, St. Nicholas complaining about the way Wax said that he was the reason he didn't get fired is hypocritical because he did the same thing with Kyle.

3:29:04A little deep in the weeds there, brother. Yeah. J Loves Football said, Doughboy is becoming annoying. Him and Lush share exhausting qualities. Lush is a coward, always saying he will get his little homies on Kyle. You do it. Again, really deep in the weeds. Yeah, it's too deep. This ain't the Apollo. We're not going to just talk about every narrative for 45 minutes. Ron Lo Ricci said, Hey, Adam Blood, my offer still stands for me taking the Bodine fade for you. I got the drop. Just say the word blood and stop hating on Derek Blood. That shit ain't Ingles on IFG. I do not want to fight Bodine.

3:29:42So that's first and foremost. So that's what you want to make a body. i just i just i don't know what his situation is and i don't want to like air him out and like say anything that like he wouldn't want people to know about so i'm not gonna comment on that but scope bhb said you only miss with your cast because you make money off only mess with your cast because you make money off them if they was going to jail you would not give a fuck you never grew up like anybody on your panel you never blew up i'm gonna assume you meant like anybody in your panel besides lush appreciate you i mean i like the last part yeah obviously i care when people on this podcast go to jail that's why i make you know dozens of youtube videos about it every time hey so your dad went to jail like mine's did right my dad went to the feds okay nobody gave me no check david walton said adam you threatened to cancel at the end of the day and all the shows on the channel weekly because you're on a power trip who would who wouldn't have a backup plan ready to go that's not true i i threatened to cancel all the shows because i was telling the dudes on the channel at that time that they were making the process of running no jumpers so not fun with the constant drama that it was making me feel like maybe I should just focus on doing interviews because I was sick of dealing with certain people certain zesty hoovers coming on the podcast every week and just group chat was wild back then it was because every day it was just a drama fest with T-Rell, which now the fans get it that he is the fucking problem.

3:31:17But at that time, you never could have convinced anybody of that. But that is so obvious now. T-Rell could do no wrong in the fans' eyes. Because look at how little beef we have between the hosts now. It's like shocking how little it is. We don't have any. There's only one person that people don't like over here. As soon as you took gay fucking T-Rell out the mix, everything changed. okay Clyde Drexler said on IFG Munchie senses so good that he can smell that Lush finna lie before he starts talking bring Kyle back yeah I'm actually doing a stream with Kyle later today for that is so pathetic you guys I'm not gonna get into that but Versatillian said Adam don't let Lush say that you don't apologize when he won't admit that he lied on Spody my recollection you do meth why would you trust your memory oh you're not allowed to respond to that have great memory CW said Adam As someone who has watched for a long last time You can confidently say Sporty was the dumbest host to ever Grace the platform Shout out to Tuesday He's not to be honest Yeah he's not the dumbest There's definitely T-Rail's dumber than Sporty face for sure I'm serious He's my nominee And listen I'll say Spody is smarter than AD AD is just more likable than Spody by a little bit there's other examples yo yo it's Lolo Adam you a fucked up guy you're breaking fans hearts some weeks ago with WAC you said that you would be releasing gay AI scenes when?

3:32:53you did say that he said that on here too I was actually really just having a conversation about if that would be gay is it gay to tell a computer program to make gay porn of you No, no, no, no, no. You said you was getting ahead of things, so you don't have to actually do it, and you could meet people. I mean, I was testing the idea. Okay, yeah, you was throwing it out there. Honestly, I haven't really thought about it since then. I was saying, somebody, you said that more than a couple weeks ago. Somebody really looking out for it, looking for the drop. That was the second time I was here. I'm going to drop it.

3:33:23That was my second show here. You was talking about AI. I was like, what the fuck? Ten second thoughts of that movie. I was trying to impress you. I wanted you to like me. I wanted you to like me. They ready for this shit I knew that gay porn would be the tickets to Rios' heart We should for sure beyond like the cypher We should all take an IQ test I feel like y 'all are all cheap We're gonna have to do it live We should take an IQ test Okay Comptown said I can't go on no jumper Look how they did my therapist clavicular Clav will go free though It's a new age of intellectualism I also agree The new age of intellectualism will also include Clav going free I totally agree with that Swifty said it's funny seeing Adam be kind of reminded of his old days and times on tour when reading off Claig's charges ah the good old days that's a good one ouch I never did nothing he reminds me so much of myself brr brr brr brr gone to Marco I mean I wanted to get fucked up and like bang girls and like I was pretty shameless about that when I look at Claig he just like monetized it better um I monetized it alright too um okay Wally Bajis said Is it just me or did Sober Lush lose all his aura LOL still dope podcaster Hashtag no dope boy content Please Dope boy is kind of fire content though no He's definitely content You just wonder if it's like appealing to a Increasingly tiny audience Like I don't think Like there's like high points to come From the dope boy saga unless something terrible Happens Yeah but it's so funny to us I'm talking about this audience that grew on them right here, though.

3:35:01Maybe a little bit, but as somebody who pays attention to the numbers, I just feel like the Doughboy numbers might have been more of a thing before. He just beat him in a pole on a rap battle. He actually lost. I actually won the pole. To me, that's the fans trolling. But I actually won the pole, though. You both sounded like shit, but he sounded way worse. You did it when you wanted to. All right, it's over. I have no control over that shit. The fuck? I was up. Cash Good said, Yo22, what's good with the NoJumper 10 commandments? Shout out to Les Rios and the B team. I actually should do that.

3:35:33We're probably in a good place for me to drop my top 10 pod commandments, and then we could do our NoJumper pod review day. Why are you throwing up gang signs? What the fuck was that? I was acknowledging Cash Good. Thank you for the – because I didn't – I was late with it. I was late with it. He was chunking up his hood. What's the pod review day? we talked about having like a big day where everybody gets like a pod review where like I do research beforehand make sure I watch a lot of content of people put together notes and then like bring them on one by one and I don't know if I would like show them clips or I would just like rate them give them some feedback about their pod I think it would be pretty good content set the camera up in your office we could do it in here like a nigga in trouble to come in the office in here Give it to me straight, Doc.

3:36:25Your annual review. Your yearly review. You will not be getting a raise this year. Tell him that on the pod. It's so good. You may never get a raise. I hope Dobo asks for a raise. That would be sick. I would love to deal with that. Have the Edgars remove somebody? Carry them out? They're going to start taking the clothes off in the interview. The Edgars just slowly transforming into security would be fire. They kind of have been. They get way fatter and just dress up. Bring glicks. ever since uh steven marked out a fousey tube those kind of and hellcat okay um okay c hustle said i knew adam was going to take up for that weirdo cloud this is the problem when the nerds got microphones this behavior is being normalized so you're saying that the nerds are the guys who have sex with like literally more than everybody else watching this which i guess would mean me and clavicular because if that's what it is to be a nerd i guess i'll just have to take it on the chin so if being hot and famous and fucking lots of girls makes us nerds you my friend have successfully changed the definition of nerds i think you need to try to find a better word that would encompass that better just don't start bone smashing shit like when i went to his house the bone smasher was there it was like just laid out on the table like it gets used all the time which that was kind of insane.

3:37:44That's dedication, right? Fuck. I don't know. That was crazy. Okay. Hoodlum86 said, Tuesday show is fire. Free all the No Jumper hosts locked up. We need the Hefe back. I was just thinking about him today, man. We gotta free the Hefe. Free Hefe, free break, free sus. JakeD3Mon said, on IFG, kids do not be like Lush. He is a Brackhead, not a joint. He smokes joints with Brack in them. Be like Rios. He lied on an application and became a scientist. that's joy free break free sus hey man i'm definitely a bostonary tale bro you gotta stop doing that that's too funny it's not um jeremy romance said i love it when can i tell my story on no jumper or when's another music stream mad respect y 'all i mean you're telling your story on a jumper right now but dropping the five dollar donut right we should do a music stream soon i agree with him on that oh let's do it let's do it friday yes i'm with listen to the fans music in here and then make the song in the other room.

3:38:44Because I don't think we should make the song on stream because then they're going to know about all the bars at the same time. I thought you had something lined up for Friday, bro. Yeah, don't you have plans for Friday? During the day, we have a thing. Yeah, okay. Piece of content, but that's... I'll hang out here and do a stream on that. Let's do it. Hell yeah. Especially if we record in the other room and then like... We got to shoot the video in here while we're recording it so we can have a good turnaround time. We can have Kenny Overshow pull up. Kenny's not seen his fat ass in the chat the whole time we've been on here.

3:39:12I love Kenny. I love Kenny. And he's gonna be on the news tomorrow. I feel bad I didn't listen to that girl's song when they're streaming here. It's Lil Raya and this bitch. They'd be gassing her up to me so much. I'd be shaking her hand thinking she's world famous. I'd be like, hi, how you doing? They're like, bro, she's such a big deal. She's crazy. She's huge. Lil Raya definitely doing her thug thizzle I don't even know. Northern Cali. They gas her up. She's from Northern Cali? Yeah. Oh, hell no. Central Cali really she's from Modesto Get her out of here She's a good kid I can't fuck with Nortenius man All the shit I've been through with Moose Pulling him down She's as much of a Nortenius Moose Oh okay that's about What I'm willing to tolerate Okay Phillip said Clav is giving Patrick Bateman That's a fact And also me put me in there too Because I'm exactly the same um okay yo yo it's logo said adam you don't even upload that many interviews you have to be you have time to be on multiple weekly shows joe budden uploads like five times a week step it up joe budden uploads like two times a week and uh i personally am on three podcasts a week so i don't know exactly what you guys want do you want me to do like a three-hour podcast every day because that sounds like a lot i'm not gonna lie that's that's a lot joe budden is doing the crime thing now did you see that got canceled it got canceled oh shit but i do think that a lot of people do miss the interviews and would be excited if those came became more free i do interviews all the time it's just like there's a lot less people to interview these days it's just like they used to just be flooding in like i just because like music was just going way crazier bro i used to do like multiple like bronx drill interviews every week like what the fuck happened all that shit you could take every city in america because i have basically done this and like map out the up-and-coming rappers from each city and man it ain't like it was a couple years ago it's crazy how much like less rappers are popping off so you gotta move on from them you gotta move on but every other niche of interviews is kind of flooded as well so i feel like if anything uh yeah i don't know i still love doing interviews i still feel like we do like crazy numbers with a lot of our interviews.

3:41:24Like, all the Chicago shit we've been doing the past couple days has been crazy. And that's like the backbone. That's like the foundation of what No Jumper was. Yeah, but you can't get too hung up on the backbone because if I was still trying to run, like, the cool podcast where you interview SoundCloud rappers. Yeah, that's how I get stuck on Al Bundy type shit. That shit is. Four touchdowns in one game of Poker. Okay. C Hustle said, Adam is the first person to call someone a hater, but been belittling Kendra's career the whole time. K-Dog don't care to catering like Drake. Okay, so you are a glazer because saying that he doesn't care to cater like Drake.

3:41:59I mean, every rapper has to cater to their fan base. The thing is, is that any belittling of Kendrick's career that I've done is based on like actual arguments that I can articulate. And you didn't do any of that in your donation there. So, big L. C.S. also said, don't forget Kendrick's speed in making music is a lot of the reason that Drake lost the battle. Kendrick was putting out great songs so he can do what Drake do. But to be fair, Kendrick acknowledged that he already had not like us pre-recorded and basically just had to pivot it into having more Drake bars. Which, to be fair, that's something to be proud of if you're that prepared.

3:42:35Mustard. Swing of the Axe said, Adam was chasing Lil Pump for clout during the best Kendrick albums dropping. He doesn't have a valid hip-hop opinion. That is not true because actually Good Kid Mad City came out long before anybody knew who Lil Pump was. I mean, also helping streamline XXX and Juice WRLD. Yeah, and I would also say that really, like, the time where SoundCloud rap was going crazy was kind of like the time where Kendrick was dropping his worst albums. Kendrick was at his best before No Jumper existed, if we're being fully honest. That's what I'm saying. Matt said he was 2012. Yeah.

3:43:07The idiot from LA said, Drake is too far up inside Adam. He can't give a decent take on music anymore. Bad podcasting. Shout out Lush for at least being honest and knowing music. I feel like Lush and I agreed on almost everything that we said, which makes me feel like your opinion does not deserve a lot of consideration. I think they'd be getting your trolling confused a little bit. I think you'd be trolling a little bit. No, he'd be serious. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what I'm trolling about. I would never troll. Trying to get a motherfucking out. David Walton said, Adam, we get it. You are salty that Kendrick never took your interview, but Drake hasn't either, LOL.

3:43:41That's, man, you got embarrassing yourself for OVO chain. so I don't wear chains number one and also I never tried to get a Kendrick album as did nobody else in LA besides Big Boy like yeah but I'm saying that the Big Boy is the only person in LA that's ever interviewed Kendrick which is kind of part of my point which is that like you know yeah like okay the conversation like you could say oh Kendrick like never drops music because he just wants to but like then you have to also excuse why he never does anything else either. He's a fucking recluse. You don't even like to be in public like that.

3:44:14He doesn't do interviews. So it's like all the media platforms in LA that glaze Kendrick, literally none of them got anything from that. But you know what's weird about it is in his interviews, like say Howard Stern, Rick Rubin, he's super fucking normal. You know what I mean? Like he's fucking... If he did more interviews, more people would realize he's basically just a regular ass dude. He didn't really got like that star power. To me though, that makes him that does make him appealing to me, but I can see a lot of people that like the razzle dazzle of quote unquote or the mystique. Yeah, absolutely.

3:44:47I remember when everybody gave him shit for buying his little sister or something like a civic, some car. Uh huh. That's just how he is. Yeah. Like, like, yeah, but even that's performative, right? That is kind of, well, if you do something and put it on the internet, it's performative. And especially if the thing makes everybody say like, Oh, he's so humble. I can't really recall how I got out. That is, It's kind of like J. Cole's whole marketing strategy. I'm going to drive the car that I used back in the day for my entire tour now. I think he got out. I don't think he posted it, but I could be wrong because I can't remember sign.

3:45:21You know what I'm saying? It could have been something she posted and it just simply got out there. Okay. In. Okay. He gifted his sister, Kayla Duckworth, a 2017 Toyota Camry for her high school graduation in 2017. And Camry. Okay. Best cars ever. is it most reliable yes this became public knowledge when kayla proudly posted photos of the new gray sedan on her personal instagram and twitter account and captured that thank you big brother for my graduation gift at kendrick lamar and it quickly went viral and uh oh okay yeah on big boy he said that he wanted to teach his sister the value of gratitude and baby steps noting that she didn't have to go through the same financial struggles that he and their mother their experience growing up okay fucking dope okay i agree that makes sense my opinion that you get an entry-level car when your parents buy you a car and you get a fucking maybach when you can afford a maybach okay i'm not giving my kid nothing beyond like an entry-level car you agree you agree to that i totally agree yeah 100 yeah i mean he's being himself bro i mean to be fair like yeah yeah because like if you give your kid a fucking super expensive car It's just super performative.

3:46:36You're doing it for social media and you're doing it to make people know that your fucking kid drives a car like this. He's teaching her fiscal responsibility. That's like a pair of podcasters. Academics. Adam. He fly coach. Oh, he go to first class. It's pocket watching. You got one materialistic nigga and one that's not. Facts. Fucked out to do a podcasting. I wouldn't expect Kendrick to buy a fucking my back for his little sister. She turns 18. Game just bought his daughter some crazy cars. I was thinking about that when I saw Game do it. I would expect Game to do that, though. He's always been a super flashy guy, so it kind of makes sense.

3:47:15That's online with his branding. Patch Notes said, Thank you, Lush. Rios is reducing hip-hop to technical rapability and blackness. Hip-hop is pop music. Thank you, Drake, for pushing the sound forward. Well, there's nobody blacker than Drake.

3:47:31Dragonite, B-word, B-slur. said only my Mexican brother Rios can say my name let's keep it 100 women with big are usually obese yeah he says it when he calls ice on them I think it means big areolas women with big areolas are usually obese bro you ever like notice like when your girl gets pregnant that her fucking nipples get so much darker I like it I mean you're like but that's what happens though because I don't know if it happened to everybody Because they get ready for breastfeeding. I saw an old picture in Leonard the other day, and her nipple was fucking gigantic and so much darker. I totally forgot about that shit.

3:48:12Remember when Cardi B had crazy nipples? I'll chew that shit. For sure. Feed me, mommy. Wait, who, Cardi? Some more chocolate out of them things. No, Playboy Cardi. His nipples were huge. Yeah, Playboy Cardi for sure. Bro, I seen a clip the other day of Playboy Cardi where you could see from an angle that his hairline is fucked. Oh, man. And I was just like, oh, my God. Like, bro, the fucking opium fans, like, I don't think they're going to be able to handle realizing that motherfucker's hairline's jacked. And then also, like, he can't really just go get a hair transplant because they're going, well, like, I guess he could keep his dreads and they could take the hair follicles from the back and then put them in the front.

3:48:54But then what? You're going to have dreads and then you're just going to have, like, a little patch growing in the front. It's going to take so long before it's even close to as long as your dreads. He has to go short hair, get the hair transplant, and then grow it out again. Or they're on his dick so hard that he'll switch that and make that like a new hairstyle. You see a bunch of kids with that same hairstyle. I was thinking about that. He's got a super major Omarion pre-haircut fade. Do like performative receding hairline. Just shave it here, but shave it in a way where it's really obvious that that's not your natural hairline.

3:49:26If that became in style, I'd be getting all the hoes. I'll grow my hair back out I mean honestly there's one dad who like goes that's like in my kids class and I look at this fool all the time he's fat his shirt barely fits his hairline is all the way back and I just look at this guy every time and I'm just like that's so sick that you just don't care at all like everything about you looks about as bad as it could look and you're walking around so confident yeah and I I just wonder about him. I want to know what he does for a living so bad. He's probably a computer programmer or something. But that's how men are supposed to be, man.

3:50:02But money makes things. Hell no. We got to look good. We got to look good so we can get bad bitches and impregnate them. Type shit. Okay. Ghost, we're almost done, said, this is the A-team right here. It makes my work go by quick. Shout out to all four of y 'all from New Jersey. Salud. Shout out to New Jersey. Dragonite Rio's beard said, got into a bad car crash and been stuck in the hospital all day. The No Jumper show is the only thing that feels regular right now. I appreciate y 'all. That's actually cool. that's really hey prayers up for dragon eye reels man because i know that feeling of sitting in the fucking hospital bed off main med yo you gotta you gotta get over here

3:50:38fds fds first day that's what fuck um philip said are we getting the adam and remo interview with q50s killers come on sign me up i i gotta meet them i'm sure i'm sure remo's already reaching out yeah they gotta come through niggas gotta be some idiots they do some shit like that 2500 for the box said w munchie w brocha loot lush w adam l tongan crip rios munchie needs more henny on the tuesday show on img tongan crib is so good i fuck with my tongue hell yeah that's all right dag said adam does not listen to kendra kendra raps about dropping an album and then goes away he's not consistently in the studio and missing he goes away the fact that y 'all all believe this bullshit honestly is so fucking funny no but you never said he was consistently in the studio and like searching for a record you never i feel like kenny probably spends like huge months of times in the studio because i mean let's be real like he's good at his craft what the fuck else are you doing with your life like what what else is there to do at a certain point he has openly expressed about taking long it's not like he seems like he's doing anything else well he was going around doing push-ups and working out at parks well but that was one time between dam and mr morale he was going through a bunch of bullshit in his life and stuff like that finding out you're on his trans or whatever.

3:51:53Going to the museum for show. He like found out his, that's just bullshit. Like, oh, I found out my aunt was trans so I had to take three years off. That's fucking devastating. It's the shit that rappers do. Who said that shit? Kendrick, didn't he have the whole thing on the album? I never heard no crazy ass cuckoo shit like that. That's the real thing? I don't know, but it's devastating if it's true. He had a Tron T for three years? Was he raised with this auntie? Because if so, I wouldn't give a fuck. He got a Tron T? No, I think he's saying that she went trans or some shit. Yeah, he talked about it on an album.

3:52:20See, that's the whole thing. Munchie claims to be a super fan. He don't even listen to this shit. I don't listen to weird, freaky shit like that. His uncle, who became his auntie. Wait, no, transitioned to a man. So it was his aunt, and then she turned into his uncle. And on one of his songs off Mr. Morale and the Big Stappers, which Munchie should totally listen to because he definitely has never heard. The song opens with Kenny describing his relationship using feminine terms and old memories before noting the transition. My auntie is a man now. that's so bad man the best part of that album was Kodak Black if we're being honest your name Betty

3:52:58the song is about unlearning transphobia and grappling with cognitive dissonance and eventually choosing family acceptance and humanity over rigid rebellious or societal expectations Uncle Betty in the house basically he ended up being cool with his trans man I don't think he could be a stud but a trans is something else family family i didn't even know that stud was supposed to only be for black women because the other day i said to a girl i said oh you like i said like oh damn you finally decided to stop dressing like a stud and she's like what the fuck is that she's white and she was like and i was i went to urban dictionary and looked up stud and by the time i got to the definition i was looking for it said that it's only a term for black lesbians which i didn't i didn't really realize that oh no i didn't know that i guess i've only heard it used that way but i learned that so man is for only black women there's mexican studs for sure there is a chance that urban dictionary is wrong but apparently the intent about the term was for it to only be for is the stud you talking about they she know to the stud community she's not even really a stud i just said you you're a stud because i seen last time i seen you were wearing a fitted hat or a yeah that's funny yes within the queer community the term stud is widely understood and respected as an identity exclusively to black masculine presenting lesbians and sapphics which is i've never heard that word i mean but i think stud is an important term because we all know what it means so what what is the white studs called butch no yeah when did stud become just a female term didn't they used to say no well you could say it about a guy but it's different because when i looked up stud on urban dictionary the first definition was like a guy who's like a cool player yeah yeah yeah that used to be the word for stud back oh that guy's such a stud i think they're reappropriating it and they're probably doing it because it's a word that like literally nobody uses anymore when it's a word for like a cool ass dude so i was like oh yeah i'm gonna hit one of my gay home girls up and bring this is the black i never that's i bet you a lot of people learn something even if she disagrees she's probably gonna be wrong because Quiet stud I know a lot of But I know a lot of like Mexican Studs or butch Whatever you want to call that I call themselves studs Yeah Mexicans want to be like black people News flash But black people call pussy cock Yeah yeah Yeah for sure They call pussy cock Yeah Black people Y 'all gay Yeah Daz Dillager woke up in the morning Just a bomb ass cock Yo that's foul yeah exactly she was in our free Dirk video I mean you could call her a stud she is what's the term for a fat lesbian Mexican just Mexican he's so against there being like classifications and terms what's the term for a fat Mexican lesbian there's gotta be a term it's such a thing yeah where you get fat Oh, the regional slang is torta.

3:56:03But torta doesn't mean lesbian. Hey, and that's waxing in torta. Hey, nigga. You gotta take that out. In Mexico and certain diaspora communities, torta or tortellera is a well-known slang term for a lesbian. So actually, like, it is. It does kind of mean that. Today, years old. I think Blueface should drop that torta joint. Like, make that a song. The cultural identity, gorda queer or fat Chicana lesbian. Gordas. Gorditas. Gorda queer. I'm gonna start to call some of my bitches that. You was Gorda Gorda. Call Moose Man that, you Gorda Queer. Yo, Moose Man is such a Gorda Queer. That's the feelest.

3:56:39Yo, I'm trying to put my dick in some Gorda Queers. Steven, line me up a couple of Gorda Queers for the 20 versus one. We need some Gorda. Yo, Gorda Queer sounds so hard. Yes, fire it. That's a Pokemon. It's my new rap name. Bro. Gorda Queer, Gorda Queer. He's gonna have dropped that in his first. Yo, I'm doing a remix of Gucci-ing. Gorda Queer, Gorda Queer, Gorda Queer. My whole love snort go quick

3:57:03My grandma likes to snort nose Grandma still snorting tortos Okay Okay Spam said This is probably Rios' last show He was talking about get Brandon and Spody back So that he can leave Let's throw him a 24 hour goodbye stream Also out of my blame you Also please don't bring Spody back Permanently A lot of paranoia fueling that super chat. That was hilarious, though. God damn. I love it. Is Lupe Gorda queer? She's a torta for sure. Is she fat? Is she a stud? She's a grande torta. I think she liked dudes, though. Yeah, she does. She liked dudes. She used to be anal clean. You got to be gay. Yeah. Aris said, Kendrick dropping every five years and getting praise for what he puts out is like giving a player MVP for averaging 40, but bro, play twice a month on the season.

3:57:57Fuck outta here, K-Bots. Hey, listen, you got people - He sees through you guys' bullshit. People come out the house just to put in work and they go back in the house, bro. Yeah, and we massively discount their contribution as a result. Discount party crips and bloods. Look at those niggas come put in work and go back in the house. Right. True, but all the party crips I know are podcasting like it's going out of style. Coyote said, bring Jack like Jess back. Y 'all know what I'm talking about. We need OG Crypt back on the cast. That's true, man. Shout out to all my moving individuals out there.

3:58:28I see Jack Like Jess is, they might have told him he's not from the set anymore. He wasn't listening. Hey, I love Jack Like Jess regardless. He's hilarious. I don't expect A-Trey like that with his ass. Yeah, Ant was not fucking with that. He's putting on for A-Trey hard. Remember how nervous we were to tell Ant that he was from A-Trey? Well, you know, he used to be a part of a community, a gang. He was a group specifically. What kind of community? slowly figuring it out shout out to 1AJSaya for becoming a member Lil Mexican has been a member for 8 months he said tell Dragon Eye Kyle to bick back cause the bean team's sliding behind the mayor of MacArthur Park that's right Eche don't play with me make plays with me hey laying low playing slow hold on Whack is calling in, said, Pop Quiz Lush, what's your favorite track on the album?

3:59:22Game related by The Click. Be about your paper, man. That's my favorite. I was like, Wolf T gets to like, Boom Get Chopped. I'm like, man, there's so many great songs. Hurricane, amazing album. One of my favorite albums of all time. Amazing Woman, too. Shout out to Hurricane. Be About Your Paper is my favorite song. And then Trent B903 said, Cardi's hair has been fucked up for years. His loctition exposed him. That's why he keeps his do-rag on. look at the video of the fans pulling it off I don't know if I actually am willing to commit to going and finding that right now where is the security at why is he grabbing at his wave cut no you can't always control it but I'm trying to see Cardi's fucking receding hairline because it's going to make me feel cooler if I see make you feel better about yourself Paris No said Lush your mod put me on timeout for asking you for a promo on your YouTube channel get him and check man this was the other day bro that's egregious hit me you know hit me on Instagram.

4:00:16That's egregious. Yeah, that's very egregious. Hit me on IG, please. It's every day, bro, with the Disney Channel flow. As long as we're talking about the greatest rappers of all time. Oh, shouts to the Paul brothers. Yo, bro. Today... John Cena. Today I saw somebody re-uploaded the clip of Logan Paul and that dead body that he filmed. Oh, in the chat? In the Unalive thing in Japan? Listen. Unalive Forest? Here's another apology. I'm pretty sure I came on here and said that it like wasn't that bad yeah if what i saw was the real thing and not ai which as i'm saying it i'm really starting to wonder if it was ai because it was so crazy but like bro he's like filming himself with the vlog camera turns the camera around dead japanese guy with his face blurred out a little bit but like still and then yeah he's he's talking to the camera oh my god his hands are purple bro it's fucking crazy like he's such a youtuber while he's right in front of a dead body.

4:01:16Do you not even know what I'm talking about? I do know about that, but I've never seen the fucking video. No, I remember when it came out, but people tripping on Jack Doherty about making his friend hold the camera after the Bugatti bapped. Then they got shit on this incident. I thought there was a lot of bad backlash for that. No, for sure. He was like fake canceled. He got canceled so bad for that. That was actually unbelievably bad at the time, even though it kind of fizzled out pretty quick. Man. Super chats take almost an hour here nowadays That's kind of lit Super chats? Damn near Sometimes it takes an hour to talk to these fucks What's he going to show us?

4:01:52We are absolutely not Don't show it on the screen Oh shoot Look at it, he's like filming himself And then he just shows the dead body Yo, this is not as bad As the thing that I actually saw Oh yeah, okay, there it is I can't believe I thought it was fake It's such a violation. So sick, though. It's a suicide force. Yeah, is it fucked up if it's fake? Like, if that was not a real guy, but he still did that for clout farming, is that still? I would be way better if it was fake. For sure. I mean, okay, what if this happened now and everybody freaked out and then he was like, bro, we did it with AI.

4:02:30So, like, no harm, no foul. Yeah, you can't get mad at that. That was damn near change AI legislation. Fake dead body is not a big deal. Real dead body is a big deal. Yeah. I think it's pretty much the rule. All right. Shout out to everybody. I actually like the idea of doing this Friday. We'll do like a long pod and then we'll, not all night. I think 24 hours is crazy. Why did we start doing 24 when we had never done like six? So what time are we starting? Maybe seven? Six? Seven at night? Yeah. Okay. That's just an idea. Let's do it. So not doing the 12, don't come in at 12. Yeah. Oh, no, we should do 12 and then - Come back at seven.

4:03:08I'm going to do the 20 versus one here. Okay. And then we could do a long night pod slash record the song in the other area. And then we'll like, I think we should come up with like a theme for the video, like one part of the office that we film everybody rapping their verse in front of. That's fire. I love that. I'm bringing a high note. It's gonna take me like three hours Could the theme please be Fuck OTF Jam I don't know that Most of the people are gonna really care about OTF Jam that much but You can rap about him Jam told He did my man wrong Now I'm screaming pretty dirt I was thinking about doing a rap song for my kid For her birthday But then when I was thinking about All the things I was having a really hard time imagining myself rapping kid-friendly lyrics.

4:03:58You got to mention Big Blue? You feel me shit that she liked? Because right away, in my head, I rhymed Parker Ann with, if a boy treat you bad, I'm going to turn his block to Afghanistan. And then I was like, nah, I can't do that. I can't just assume her first boyfriend's going to be from a block. Turn his block. Yo, that's what I should do. In raising her, I should really prepare her for gang life. I'm sliding on Agora Hills. And then she'll slowly realize that actually that's not going to be what her life is like, but she'll be ready for it. Tell her not to do drugs. Start acting super paranoid and open like they're after me, babe.

4:04:37They're after me. God, why do you have that gun? They're after me. You don't know who that is. I never know when I'm going to have to shoot it out with the cops. I think the song should be dope, though. You could mention her pets. You feel me? Normal shit. by your castle. It won't be me and you. We go out to wrestle. Ooh. There you go. Lost my homie, but I still let him touch my asshole. Bars. Bars. No. Hit your mama from the back. It was sounding like a casserole. And that's how you were created. I beat it after that I ate it. Beated and tweeted. From New England, but I ain't a masshole. You are for sure a masshole.

4:05:16I am a masshole. That's how I explain my personality, yeah. Asshole You can't wait for what? My sister she's making A hamburger with plantains In the patties That's so cool Goated I already know that's going to smack Oh okay You a fat boy at heart You think my best shit Do you watch your weight a lot? You don't have to? This is just like you Where you just landed at? Yeah Dude I watch I'm like becoming body dysmorphic It's getting weird Like I ate a slice of pizza over here and like felt so guilty. The more you think about it, the worse it does to your body. It's bad. If you don't eat and don't think about that shit and just fuck it.

4:05:54It's bad. Women think about that shit. Yeah, yeah. Women sit around thinking about that shit all fucking day, every day. But I mean, the thing about it is like don't replace one addiction with another one because eating disorders are gnarly. No, I don't think I'm really body dysmorphic, but I am like hyper vigilant about what I'm eating. Let's all start getting in shape and enter a bodybuilding contest. Look at my shit, bro. My shit, look at my shit, bro. I never had that before. What the fuck are we talking about? Look at the thirst traps in my fucking Instagram story. I got a fake six pack low key.

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