In short
Lil Wick (CTS/“white boy” persona) and Sumo Dub discuss the viral Q50 “shot up in St. Louis” incident, internet trolling/diss tracks, and how St. Louis beefs are organized (more about who you fuck with than north vs south). They also talk about TrapLord Ross’s hood research videos, 607 Unc’s controversies (including Forexra), drug use/perks talk, and local video/creator disputes (Big Boy Visuals, Nico). They claim police/feds attention increased after viral content, and argue violence won’t stop until “things die.”
Guests (backgrounds)
Lil Wick (hardest white boy out; CTS from the south side; St. Louis drill scene figure); Sumo Dub / Slumpa G / Bloodhound Kate / J-Mo Kate / D1 Kate (rapper/affiliated with Bloodhound/CTS circles).
Key claims
Q50 wasn’t confirmed dead; fans blamed “y’all” due to trolling and diss songs. TrapLord Ross’s research allegedly helps law enforcement. 607 Unc is a long-time troll; Forexra threatened him after homophobic jail comments. Video creators allegedly delay or withhold footage/payment.
Notable examples
Q50 live 10–12 hours after the viral “killed” video; TrapLord Ross “federal investigation” level research; 607 Unc “Hoover… blank remover” clip; Big Boy Visuals/Nico not delivering videos; T4 locked up; Brandon Buckingham content disputes.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOWelcome to Lil Wick and Crew
0:46 to 1:12
Hosts introduce Lil Wick and discuss his current status.
“This episode is brought to you by Google Chrome.”
Discussion of Q50 Incident
1:12 to 1:52
Exploration of the viral incident involving Q50 getting shot in St. Louis.
“And you know we had to check in with the hardest white boy out.”
Rumors and Accusations
1:52 to 2:22
Lil Wick and crew respond to rumors about their involvement in the Q50 incident.
“it was viral that Q50 had got killed in St.”
Connections with 9-5
2:22 to 3:14
Discussion about the crew's relationship with the 9-5 group and their history.
“They said a lot of shit about that shit.”
Clarifying Gang Relations
3:14 to 4:26
Explaining the dynamics between different hoods and crews in St. Louis.
“Yeah bro met him In like Rilla Missouri On some shit And they just We built a relationship From there on some shit When I say bro Who who B-Ski B Oh word Alright So this not no Overnight shit Like out there.”
Trolling and Music Response
4:26 to 5:52
The conversation shifts to how trolling led to music responses from both sides.
“Because the main thing I think with your homie real, right?”
Details of the Beef
5:52 to 7:20
Delving into the details surrounding the beef and interactions between the crews.
“When his ass gets stretched, that shit was bunk.”
Analyzing Trap Lord Ross
7:20 to 9:06
Discussion about Trap Lord Ross’s impact on the St. Louis scene and his storytelling methods.
“So you were impressed even though maybe not every detail?”
Street Reactions and Fame
9:06 to 12:00
Exploring how the streets of St. Louis reacted to the controversies and the implications of fame.
“Louis thought it was some hot shit though for the most part yeah the whole St.”
Consequences of Attention
12:00 to 14:00
Final thoughts on how the attention from incidents can escalate situations in the city.
“You have like the state, then Trappler Ross, then the feds.”
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Diss Tracks and Musical Beef
14:00 to 17:38
Explore the dynamics of diss tracks and relationships within the rap scene.
“So Lil' Wig is like actually really involved in this?”
The Impact of Drug Culture on Rappers
17:38 to 19:54
Discussing the pressures and drug habits of rappers in the industry.
“I was assuming that you just decided to start dissing him, kind of like how Q50 started dissing Duck after he got into it with the GDs and stuff.”
Navigating Racial Dynamics in Rap
19:54 to 22:08
Examining the implications of race in rap beefs and personal identity.
“i kind of like got more closer to the rappers and i realized that a lot of them will like to you you know, sneak off in the corner and snort a Roxy or, you know, fucking rack up some Molly on the table and snort that.”
Collaboration and Competition in the Industry
22:08 to 23:38
Understanding the balance between collaboration and rivalry in rap.
“No, some real shit, I think our song was really better.”
Unk's Influence and Controversies
24:08 to 28:01
Delving into the reputation and incidents surrounding 607 Unk.
“But shit He a grown ass man However he wanna handle his static is how he gonna handle it You know what I'm saying and then he young too, so you can't tell him how to handle the static.”
The Background of 607 Unk
28:01 to 30:08
Discussing the origins and antics of 607 Unk and his rise in the scene.
“Yeah he been around for a long time I used to listen to his peoples and shit City styles and shit King B before he started making that weird music I don't really like King B So y 'all been knowing about Unk?”
Tensions Between Cities
30:09 to 30:48
Exploring the relationship between St. Louis and Chicago and how tensions manifest.
“But you're saying that that word doesn't hold the same weight in St.”
Beef and Gang Culture in St. Louis
30:49 to 32:58
Insight into the dynamics of gang affiliations and beef in St. Louis.
“When I heard your song, I'm like, it be going down in there.”
Big Boy Visuals and Industry Relationships
32:59 to 35:55
Discussing the role of Big Boy Visuals and challenges in video production.
“Louis Want to get their videos on Cause a lot of y 'all Videos is on It's just Big Boy Visuals is a cameraman.”
The Business of Video Production
35:56 to 37:18
Talking about financial obligations and expectations in video production.
“and you do not provide the service that that money was intended for, it's open season.”
Life After Prison in St. Louis
37:19 to 42:00
Discussing the challenges faced when artists return from prison and the cycle of violence.
“T4 in prison Or nah He went to prison He back on the ridge In the justice center And how long He been locked up for now?”
Discussion on Violence in St. Louis
42:00 to 44:39
Explore the cycle of violence in St. Louis and the harsh realities surrounding it.
“but given the distance, I feel like it'll be all right.”
Bloodhound Beef and Street Codes
45:22 to 47:53
Discuss the complexities of street loyalty, beef, and the implications of snitching.
“See, y 'all niggas ain't worried about Bloodhound or nothing, man?”
Perceptions on Young Thug and Career Impact
47:53 to 50:27
Analyze the situation involving Young Thug and its effects on his career and relationships.
“Like, I'm not going to sit here and get on this motherfucker and be like, fuck him, he a rat.”
Trust Issues and Relationship Dynamics
50:27 to 53:11
Examine the intricacies of trust in relationships, especially under unusual circumstances.
“that thug song that he put out, the seven minute song where he's kind of like apologizing to everybody.”
Squashing Beef in the Music Scene
53:11 to 55:59
Explore the attempts to resolve conflicts in the music industry and its broader implications.
“I could never have imagined it a few years ago, but here we are.”
Discussing Beef and Respect in the Music Scene
56:00 to 57:34
Learn about the dynamics of respect and conflict in the music industry.
“squashing it, and actually being cool after that and dropping music after that.”
Understanding Crime and Social Media
57:34 to 58:52
Explore how social media reports on crime and its impact on communities.
“we gonna be seeing like we like alright with Chicago they got like spot them news where we be seeing all the sliding and shit that's going on with St.”
Closing Thoughts and Call to Action
58:52 to 59:41
Hear final thoughts and encouragement for listeners to engage with the music.
“If you ain't Slump a game, we take your Thump a game.”
Transcript
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1:13I'm in here with my man Remo today. And you know we had to check in with the hardest white boy out. Lil Wick in the building. How you feeling? Man, we chilling, man. We living. Yeah. Yeah. You out here, you're making headlines left and right, man. Hell yeah, you know what it is. Both y 'all, man. Tell them who we got with us, man. Man, we got Sumo Dub, a.k.a. Slumpa G. I don't know what the fuck going on, nigga. Bloodhound, Kate, nigga. J-Mo Kate, nigga. D1 Kate, nigga. That's how y 'all starting it off? That's how we starting it off, shit. Let's talk about it. Let's just jump right into it. Maybe, what is it, like a month ago?
1:51Maybe about a month ago, it was viral that Q50 had got killed in St. Louis. There was a video. People thought he got shot outside in St. Louis somewhere. Over$60 ,000. Then he went live, like, probably, like, 10, 12 hours after the fact. And everybody was like, oh, shit, so Q50 isn't dead. Right. But the main thing that came from it was they said y 'all niggas did it. They thought y 'all had shot Q50 up. Man, we don't know nothing about nothing. They said a lot of people did that shit, man. We did that shit, nigga. Nah. We did that shit. They said a lot of shit about that shit. We don't know nothing about nothing.
2:25They said a lot of motherfuckers did that shit Y 'all think we did it If y 'all think we did it then shit That's what y 'all think Alright Why did the fans start pointing fingers at y 'all anyway Why y 'all ain't even getting a mix Cause we fuck with 9-5 Cause we fuck with 9-5 And then shit When that shit happen Shit Motherfuckers like shit Fuck em You know Motherfuckers like fuck em I hope they ass dead and shit And then the fans kinda took that shit And blew it out of proportion on some shit Cause we was trolling on the lives and shit like Yeah we did that But fuck no I don't know nothing About that shit So 9-5 is the promoter No 9-5 is some Motherfuckers from Chicago We fuck with Oh yeah 9-5 mom They don't fuck with Lil Q59 They don't fuck with I don't know We been fucking with them I got to tap in with Drake For years Shit for some years now Shit Bro met him in Rilla Yeah bro met him In like Rilla Missouri On some shit And they just We built a relationship From there on some shit When I say bro Who who B-Ski B Oh word Alright So this not no Overnight shit Like out there.
3:25No, just overnight internet shit. You know what I'm saying? There's more behind the shit than just what motherfuckers are called dick riding. You know, we ain't just dick riding each other on some. Oh, we fuck with them because they static with them. No, that's not even why we cool with them. We static with them because we fuck with them. It ain't we fuck with them because they static with them. It's the other way around. Yeah, because like the world at large didn't really know about there being any kind of sides taking this. Yeah, that's because we weren't really letting shit be known. because if you, if like, if motherfuckers ain't recognize shit, when it did start getting up, they brought up old blogs and shit.
3:58And we saying, we smoking little Jeff. We ain't taking shit back. We still smoking little Jeff, but shit, goddamn me. They bringing up old blogs and shit. You know how the internet do. They just gone. They just gone put on whatever clickbait. That's a fact. So then when the shooting takes place, you guys just start trolling. And that's how you kind of became like the, the honorary op in this whole situation. I mean, shit is real static behind this shit. But yeah, you can say that for sure. You can say that. Okay. Because the main thing I think with your homie real, right? Yeah. He said he went viral because he said, this is the most famous person I ever smoked before.
4:35And when he said that, everybody was like, what the fuck? Nigga dry snitching on himself. Niggas on here claiming bodies and shit. So then everybody started pointing fingers at y 'all like, yo, them niggas had something to do with it. Yeah. And y 'all kind of played on the fact. And then Q51 live and everybody was like, ah, man, Man, that nigga still alive. Them niggas was just capping and shit, chasing it. How y 'all felt about niggas feel like y 'all was chasing it, saying all that shit? Shit, I don't know who did it with, but I heard he did get blue at shit. I heard motherfucker parked his car, but shit, he just ain't get hit.
5:02I heard motherfucker with him got hit, but shit, I don't know nothing about nothing. I mean, to be fair, he hasn't exactly, like, came out and said, like, nah, Lil' Wicked. Yeah, he never said nothing happened, or he never said something did happen, you know? Yeah. Shit, he was good. He ain't get shot. That shit, that's all motherfuckers really got to say, for real. Maybe he thinks you're a worthy op. Maybe he likes having a white op. Like, publicity-wise, he might think, like, all right, this is another level. He damn near white, too. What? He likes me. One of his people white. Yeah, but he don't look like us.
5:36Wait, you think he has a white parent? Does he? No, I don't know, right? I don't know about it. He probably got a mixed parent. He might have a quarter in there or something, yeah. But, all right, so y 'all ended up dropping this songs. He went live and he kind of like diss y 'all in the live. So y 'all was chasing it and shit. He dropped the diss song first. He say, ooh, he's a fucking white boy. When his ass gets stretched, that shit was bunk. And then we dropped some hot shit. Shit, we just do what we supposed to do. You know what I'm saying? We gave the fans what they wanted on some shit. They steady telling us drop, drop, drop, drop.
6:07They steady telling us dropping shit. So shit, what we do, we gave them what they wanted. And you was on the song too. Yeah. Word. So how y 'all get locked in? How long y 'all been rocking? Shit, some years. We got locked in through his Cuds and Slugs, the one you asked me about on the first interview. Yeah. That's his big Cuds. Y 'all from the same hood? Yeah. Him and Slugs? Nah, y 'all. Because I seen your video, and in your video. I'm from the dub. Oh, yeah. I'm from the dub. But I'm from CTS, too. So break that down for the people who don't know, like, the differences and shit. I'm from the CTS is just on the south side.
6:41That's burnout. CTS is really just a group. Yeah, right. You know what I'm saying? It's young motherfuckers who claim CTS That's from over there But they not really CTS They just claim CTS because they from CTS They from Curtoys So you're from your hood but then you join CTS I'm from my hood I'm from CTS that's where I'm from I'm from over there I'm from the dub From the north side And CTS on the south side And how did y 'all bridge that gap Like north and south My cousin was fucking with him I was just young at the time yeah he was hella young is it like beef from north and south usually and ain't no north and south beef it's about who you fuck with it's about who you is yeah because okay like it was kind of wild that this whole situation transpired because Trapalor Oz did this like huge comprehensive breakdown of all the St.
7:37Louis hoods and gangs and everything he did this like giant breakdown he was super hyped on it was telling me about before he did it like this is the the stuff that my audience loves that i do is when i do these huge breakdowns and then right after he puts it out maybe like a week later then this whole situation unfolds and he's like telling me like yeah i'm glad that i just done all that research so i actually understand like what what's going on inst louis and everything if i'm coming on his video he said a lot of shit he said a lot of motherfuckers did a lot of shit to steal out here so what i'm gonna say to that is i don't know i don't know if none of that that shit true, but he, he, shit, he know, he know a little bit of something about something.
8:17Okay. That's all I'm going to say. So you were impressed even though maybe not every detail? Yeah, I was definitely impressed. He from a whole different place. I was impressed as a motherfucker for him to have all that information. He did a lot of Reddit digging and shit. Yeah. A lot of lives and shit. He watched a lot of lives and shit to do all that. He been, he must have been investigating like the police for a year, for years type shit. Like it seemed like he just built a case on St. Louis type shit. Yeah. That's how it seemed from the outside looking in. Not saying he the police, but that's what the police do.
8:45They gather up a bunch of shit, and then they hit a motherfucker with it. That's what the feds do. So that's what he did for his video shit. He did a federal investigation for that motherfucker, if you think about it. But was there anything in that video that you were like, that could get somebody caught up? Hell yeah. Damn. Nothing that I could think of off the top of my head, because there was so much shit in that video, but a lot of shit in that motherfucker. I'm like, damn, that could get a motherfucker booked. He talking about how he killed he and All kind of shit He talking about how a motherfucker killed this motherfucker And that shit crazy as hell Supposedly though I feel like the motherfuckers that wasn't brought up that much In that motherfucker wasn't brought up at all I feel like y 'all doing something right Cause y 'all out the way a little bit It's the motherfuckers that's off That's the main topic and be longer They got a lot of shit to talk about Yeah they got a lot of shit to talk about He on the run He supposedly killed this person this person He static with all these people like damn Now the police know everything about you Now the police know everything So how did the streets of St.
9:41Louis Took to it when it came up Shit they was all sharing that shit on Facebook Like that shit crazy That shit scary Yeah they said that shit to the police But on the flip side you got some people Who kind of happy that they getting some Fame from it but then some niggas Like some young minded ass shit It depends what kind of fame you're getting off of it You know what I'm saying And they just put us in there like or they make good music and they from St. Louis they make good drill music and they're right there you know what I'm saying but when they get to digging deep and saying somebody killed somebody and shit and saying shit just making them motherfucking hot this is his ops and shit like damn but isn't that like scratching the surface like who's ops with who like the cops know that shit they might not know every last detail but they know what the fuck going on but they don't always know sometimes until it's too late type shit you know yeah they could like really put a den Ross's business if they were to like say at a police conference like we would like to thank Trapler Ross for helping us to take down this organization or maybe that's the promo that he needs I don't know that might take him to the next level hell yeah the whole St.
10:53Louis thought it was some hot shit though for the most part yeah the whole St. Louis thought that shit was scary for real like not scary as and scary to watch but scary as and like damn how you know all that but is there a part of you that was kind of like oh okay maybe this is a step towards St. Louis being a little bit more like Chicago where if you want to understand Chicago games and who's got to beat with who it's well documented St. Louis is a little bit more of a mystery to the mainstream but it feels like people are starting to understand more. It's true that any controversy is good controversy but that shit bringing the fans to the city and shit motherfucker don't wanna man motherfucker ain't trying to live like that nah hell nah That shit making the city hot as fuck I bet there's a lot of people in Chicago Who are like damn I wish there wasn't a million Videos about every beef that me and my Friends have ever been into but It's been going on for so long that They probably don't wish for that because they don't even Remember what it was like to not have that shit All mapped out Ever since they dropped that video it been so Hot in St.
11:53Louis The police been hot as a motherfucker Like the police just everywhere The feds just came down there they said Really? Yeah, they said the feds came down. The feds picking up on everything now. We ain't going to state. They sending shit to the feds. Motherfuckers ain't going to state. They putting shit away. You have like the state, then Trappler Ross, then the feds. That's like the hierarchy of power. He's like right in between. I think he's right there with the feds. Man, we could sit with that nigga like a 6 '9". Oh, really? Yeah, man. Trappler Ross? Yeah. Shit, I ain't got shit against him for making his videos and shit, but man, you fuck around and do get somebody put up for that shit.
12:28So yeah, that shit ain't cool. you tripping man. But 6ix9ine was like a participant. He was ordering hits. 6ix9ine was a participant. He was rapping. He's claiming blood. He ain't got shit to do with it. Ross is like a college professor who happens to have just chosen drill rap as his choice. Everything that Trap Lord Ross finding motherfuckers putting out her. Motherfuckers putting it out on their own so they really did it to they self. He's just doing a little bit more putting it in front of the people. Motherfuckers already put it on their lives and on their Instagrams and their music videos who they're killing and shit.
12:58There's been times where smoking on but it just took trap lord ross to get motherfuckers attention there's been times where i'm with ross and i'm seeing him search for something on reddit or on google or whatever and i'm thinking that i know how to use search engines and i'm watching him do it and i'm like oh fuck like i got no idea what i'm doing because he does this shit like he's told me that it's a normal day for him to spend eight hours staring at reddit searching different stuff or going to your you You know, for example, like your little brother's Facebook, and then he's going to read every single Facebook post that your little brother made for the last 15 years.
13:32Right. That's just regular shit. All type of shit. Crazy. Y 'all got into it about five years ago over who owed who money type shit. Now y 'all cool again. Talk to me about that type shit. This statement is in direct contradiction to what his little brother said when he was in sixth grade. No, it was like that. But, okay, I think a lot of people, when we heard Q50 mention you in his response track, that made a lot of us think like, oh, shit. So Lil' Wig is like actually really involved in this? Because at first we're thinking it's trolling. Then we hear him kind of throw your name in the song.
14:08I'm thinking. He said it's his response track. Yeah, when he said something about the white boy. He dropped the song first. He came first. He dropped the song first. That was like in response to you guys kind of trolling him and shit. Yeah, trolling him on the internet. Yeah. But when it comes to actual diss music, we didn't make no. I ain't make a diss song for real until I made that song. I don't even diss rap. So you don't know the promoter, though, that he allegedly robbed? No, I don't know who he robbed. Okay. All right, what's the story that you heard, though, in the streets? What they saying, though?
14:34Because they say he has. Shit in the song. He said he sold a motherfucker some glass and said it was some meth and finessed their ass out of 60K. Yeah. Shit, that's what I heard on the song. I ain't heard nothing from the streets. I ain't heard who exactly he took it from. shit. He took it from some motherfuckers from the projects from 1448. That's all I heard. Word. So y 'all did it. So the word of who, what block it was from, but they never really... Yeah, it was like Mopee Circle.
14:59Shit, it's on the internet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shit. Mopee Circle. They took it from Mopee now, right? Shit. Bloodhound will tell you probably shit. What's your relationship with Mopee? Shit, I don't know his ass. I ain't never met his ass shit. What about shit, y 'all ain't really got nothing? Yeah, nah. He cool, though. Where, no beef though or nothing? Nah, it's musical. Yeah, man, because when we see it, then, like, you just inheriting all the beef from hanging out with 9-5, you on there talking about smoking the school and like, yeah, so what made you just jump out there with all that? Why he say some shit like, he's a fucking white boy.
15:41Ooh, like, damn, gang, I was never gonna make a diss song until he made a diss song, so shit. I went crazy on that motherfucker I just shit I just got in the store And said what I said How do you feel about like Inheriting Beasts from other cities and shit Cause now Now Do you feel like If you go to Chicago Now you in this bloodhound Beef and shit Type shit That shit ain't about none It's I got more static in my city Than anything so But y 'all ain't got no Other homies and shit That be like yo We don't need to be just Jumping in another nigga shit Or like Yeah we definitely don't need To be jumping in nobody else shit But shit The internet put us in that shit We ain't finna take back What we said who make them calls though like y 'all ain't got nobody to do it man we need to fall back from all this or niggas renegade ain't nobody tell us who we gonna static with and who we grown ass men at the end of the day and even the kids like other groups in St.
16:27Louis and shit can't nobody tell them who to static with they gonna static with whoever they wanna static with with they lit ass so how that works so now if I'll pick up your opps too type shit shit I don't know how that works I don't expect them to do shit for you you know I don't expect them to pick up my static but shit if that's what it is it's all love man shit So is it a thing where I don't just pick up they static because they staticking with them shit. We fuck with them so they don't fuck with us. Yeah. So it's not a thing where if you start fucking with any rapper and y 'all get cool you ain't gonna be picking up they inherent in their beefs and shit.
16:59Nah. That's just like we get big, right? Yeah. We start fucking with young boy. Lil Durk and them ain't gonna fuck with us. We fuck with young boy. Right. But my loyalty gonna lie with what's the name now? but it ain't gonna be no static with them you get what I'm saying so you already had this loyalty before the Q50 bloodhound little Jeff movement started blowing up it was being smoking little Jeff it just wasn't on the internet bro oh so while he was alive no we wasn't smoking while he was alive but yeah it was fucking while he was alive yeah it was fucking while he was alive yeah you can't smoke a motherfucker it ain't dead I was assuming that you just decided to start dissing him, kind of like how Q50 started dissing Duck after he got into it with the GDs and stuff.
17:46Type shit. But you guys actually had an issue beforehand. It ain't like motherfucker gonna be smoking him and smoking Lil Jeff in a new mixtape or the new song or something. Like, they not my topic. You know what I'm saying? This shit just rap shit. They not my topic. Y 'all niggas ain't scared of no niggas, man. Them bloodhound niggas be catching 9, 10 hats a person. Man, that shit fake. They doing that shit in St. Louis, too. They would've been in jail. That shit fake. He ain't catching no motherfucking nine You think this nigga got nine bodies Then the whole world know about his nine bodies You think he got nine bodies Then he nodding off nine hours a day Nine hours a day nodding off Our fucking perks But he got nine bodies That's what you have to do Look if they do Then they do shit That shit don't scare me like Everybody can pull the trigger Go sit down like mine and beat that shit We got bodies too He legally does So we know that about him.
18:38And then they'll just say like, that shit don't mean nothing, bro. I'm not even going to speak on some, I don't take credit for shit. I'm not taking credit for shit that happened in the streets. What the fuck I look like taking credit for some shit so the fans can come pick me up. Fuck no, I'll let somebody else put it in their song and say they did it. And I ain't never going to say shit. I assume that Q50 is so overly loaded all the time because he's dealing with the stress and the pressure of knowing about the pain that he's put in. Guys need to go to rehab. I mean, that's one way. rehab. Every rapper go through it.
19:08They do drugs anyways. Every rapper. You always heard rappers like, man, I'm finna stop doing drugs. I'm finna stop popping the pills. He'll probably end up in rehab. He'll probably end up stopping or be in rehab. Them niggas snort perks. Motherfucker gotta grow out of that shit. You gotta get older. We ain't really seen that many rappers doing it, right? You think you're gonna snort perks his whole life? If you play with your nose, you'll crack it. If you play with your nose, you'll geek. That's just where I come from. really yeah you play with your shit every day shit coke but shit that's still crackhead shit to me yeah yeah i ain't doing no coke but i know motherfuckers that do coke and shit and i don't really judge them because it'd be like bitches and shit doing it and shit like a white girl drug you know but i ain't sniffing nothing i ain't never sniff shit i always felt like that until i kind of like got more closer to the rappers and i realized that a lot of them will like to you you know, sneak off in the corner and snort a Roxy or, you know, fucking rack up some Molly on the table and snort that.
20:05But a lot of them, like, they try to be real, real low-key about it. Even people I've known for years will be lying to me, denying that they do it. And, like, why the fuck would you do something if you, what you call it? Like, if you don't. If you're ashamed of it? Yeah, if you're ashamed of it. That's the word I'm looking for. Yeah, why the fuck you're doing something if you're ashamed of it? Like, anything we're doing, we ain't ashamed of shit. Shit you just said some shit That I peep You said uh So Basically niggas be trying To downplay your hat Cause it was a legal body Yeah I don't be tripping though Cause I don't I don't be giving a fuck Yeah Shit it was a legal body What about it They wanna be the next one They be niggas in the comments Saying that shit Or like people telling you That's like Nah ain't nobody really Be telling me that in person They be like Man I'm glad I'm glad It's so blessed you Beat your shit bro And then the next motherfucker Be on On Facebook like Or in the comments or something You know what I'm saying Same up my fault.
20:56Same motherfucker that won a song from me, right? I'll be on TikTok like, he a white boy. He woo woo woo. That's the same reason I didn't give motherfuckers a feature when they was asking me for a feature. You know what I'm saying? Because he talking about he a white boy. He got a legal hat and everybody just play it up. Shit. You want to be the next one? Shit. Does that bother you at all when people try to use the white thing as a diss or are you just so used to it? Yeah, I've been through this shit my whole life. I don't give a fuck a motherfucker calling me a white boy. I know what the color my skin is, but I know where I come from too.
21:28A motherfucker can't bitch me. That's all that matter. A motherfucker can't bitch me, bro. A motherfucker had to kill me for they bitch me. It is kind of weird though, because if you were to say like literally anything about them being black, it would be viewed very differently. Hell yeah. Hell yeah, it would. It definitely would. That shows some self-control though that you don't jump out the window. I mean, that's the environment you grew up in though. Hell yeah. Definitely. Okay, so was there anything on the Q50 diss track that really stood out to you though? Anything that actually was memorable or of note?
21:59Of his shit? Yeah. Not really. I've listened to it like two times. Who y 'all think had a better song between y 'all? I know y 'all gonna say y 'all, but as far as views and shit. No, some real shit, I think our song was really better. Like, honestly. Really better. And I used to listen to they shit, even after we was staticking with them shit. We still listen to they shit from time to time. It ain't like we play they shit every day, but shit. Got a Sam's Cafe Pizza order up. You know the best part about this spicy Italian sausage? I voted for this topping. Yeah, just another perk of being a member.
22:34Come join us. Sam's Club. At Sock Talk, we know being a healthy adult is like living in a video game. Every day has side quests, taxes, laundry, birthdays, and just when you're leveling up, you have to book a doctor. The insurance portal crashes. they put you on hold. Your doctor doesn't take your plan. Game over. We see you. So we made booking a doctor easy. Download ZocDoc. Search by specialty, insurance, and availability. Book instantly. No cheat codes required. Find a doctor you love with ZocDoc. Welcome. Our song definitely was better. Word. So y 'all never even met? No, no, no. Nah. Word.
23:15Cause y 'all be going to Chicago and shit though, right? Which I ain't never We tapped on with him. Yeah, we be in Iraq on the down low. We was just there. Who y 'all be fucking with when y 'all in Iraq? I know y 'all. Let's drink now. Shit, that's it for real. Y 'all fuck with Fats off? Let's drink now. Yeah, we fuck with Fats off. Like y 'all link up with him? Nah, we ain't link up with him. We fuck with him, though. I fuck with bro. Hold on. Y 'all got a talking relationship or you just fuck with the music? I just fuck with his music. Not really that much of a talking relationship. You know, we takes it back a few times and shit.
23:42We're going to end up getting something in, hopefully, though. I mean I heard a lot of people say this about him That they feel like he has so much Potential as an artist But then it feels like he's Kind of putting a lot of his effort Into like beefing with people dissing people And a lot of people feel like he don't really gotta do that Given how much talent he's got What do you think of that? I think he talented as a motherfucker Cause he can make some hard ass real shit And he can make some shit that I'm playing to call my bitch too You know what I'm saying But shit He a grown ass man However he wanna handle his static is how he gonna handle it You know what I'm saying and then he young too, so you can't tell him how to handle the static.
24:18He gonna do what he wanna do. Nah, that's facts. What made you come at Vert? Cause I think Vert didn't really say nothing to y 'all said something, right? Nah, Vert said something in the damn interview Tom Mousen. Yeah, and uh, Wink, he just like Mo P. He chasing the clout. But Vert, boy, yo ass is a perk fiend. Yo ass do perks all fucking day like. Yo ass is in the car. Sound like yo fucking nose was stopped up in that motherfucker. Who was that? Who was that my boy Brandon Buckingham. Yeah, I got my people clap that down there. My people Brandon Buckingham. Y 'all, them motherfuckers come to the St.
24:50Louis with us, they safe. They not even safe. Motherfuckers ain't even safe with them. You can't even protect your vlogger. That's fucked up. You can't even protect your vlogger, gang. Like, we keep everybody safe for our vloggers or video mans, whoever. That's fucked up. Yeah, Vert, you got to protect your white boy, man. And they left his ass. Blood hound. Fuck Vert. Them niggas ain't. Oh, Vert. They ain't supposed to protect them niggas. He came down there with them. Man, when Brandon Buckingham came to our city, all of us told Brandon Buckingham, you good while you with us. And that was true.
25:18That was facts. We made sure he was good. We would have got shot before him. Right, exactly. We would have got shot before Brandon Buckingham. He not in the streets. He don't got shit to do with this shit. I don't know if it's 100 % true, but I'm kind of hearing that Brandon Buckingham is kind of like backing off from doing as much hood content because he's ended up in all these crazy situations. So the streets might get what they're wishing for, which is like one less person making content about that kind of shit, which is kind of a shame. You know, he was bringing a lot of exposure to people.
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25:49Yeah. I feel like Brandon Buckingham, man, don't stop what you're doing for no, for nobody. Fuck them. Keep doing what you're doing. Ain't nobody going to see it. Ain't nobody going to do shit unless you go around the wrong motherfuckers and they not protect you. Right. Hmm. Do you feel like a St. Louis is kind of finally getting the recognition it deserves? Are you excited about the fact that there's, you know, people are really paying attention to you, Sexy Red, the 607 Unc arc? Wasn't he just witch out? It was a couple months ago. What happened, man? Forexra put the fear of God in his ass. Forexra?
26:24What happened? You don't know about that? No, I straight don't know. Oh, man, I'm going to just tell you then. So basically, like, Unc had been on interviews talking about Forexra, basically, like, calling him gay, acting like he was doing gay shit in jail or whatever. but he's you know how unk is he's trolling he's making shit up for extra there's the dude that said gucci man had a uh a bussy no that's great baby no because four extras don't play around with any of the gay shit at all he's super super crip and so unk was saying that shit about him i'm just saying so then when when four extra like we set up a podcast with four extra and unk i wasn't here but we set it up and unk is kind of like dolo like it's like him and like one other person and i guess forex came in here with like 20 people and forex suppresses him and it's kind of like yo like if you say that kind of gay shit about me i'm gonna fuck you up i'm gonna i think he said i'm gonna kill you and like really let him know like i don't fuck around like that which to me this is him giving him a pass like you can't be like talking about some super gangster fool like that saying gay shit and thinking you're just gonna see him and it's gonna be all good like he's not a content dude.
27:30Right. He's a street dude. Right. And 607 on kind of miscalculated that. But then he stopped coming around after that because I think he was scared that Forrest was going to kill him. Yeah, you can't expect everybody to, you can't expect everybody to take your joke. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Motherfuckers know 607 I'll be trolling. I'm blood crib GD Vice Lord. I swear to God. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Motherfuckers know he be trolling, man. How St. Louis feel about 607 on? Shit, I fuck with Unk. Shit I fuck with Unk That's bruh He been around for a long time Yeah he been around for a long time I used to listen to his peoples and shit City styles and shit King B before he started making that weird music I don't really like King B So y 'all been knowing about Unk?
28:09Yeah And where y 'all knew him from From back in the day? I ain't really knowing him back in the day too much I just seen him when he started Really coming on platforms and shit Coming on Instagram Is 607 Unk Word Yeah He's always been a troll I always knew that nigga from getting on live I swear that out on my mom Rap contest I swear to God, I don't mind me. If you rap good, I'm going to send you$50 on cash. That's when I first met him. Like 2020, he was doing it. Get on my live, rap that shit. I'm going to send you$150. If I like it, I'm going to send you$150. He was doing that for a little minute.
28:42He was doing a bunch of weird scams back in the day. He was doing phone scams. He was doing shit with weed. I don't even know. Do you think that if 4X3 had actually killed 607 Unk, that there would be like LA-St. Louis tension? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, that'd be awkward, huh? Yeah, my fucker ain't gonna play about 6 or 7. Oh, shit. So y 'all feel like it's Chicago-St. Louis tension and shit? Nah. It ain't no Chicago versus St. Louis, man. That's what it seems like. We fuck with the rack. We just said we fuck with Fats, so I fuck with Rack, baby. I fuck with Atlanta, too. I fuck with a lot of cities.
29:14I fuck with Milwaukee. We good in Chicago. Shout out Big Step. I fuck with bruh. For sure. Okay, did you see the clip where 6 or 7 was like, They were talking about his tattoo where it says Hoover on his stomach, and he was around a very well-known L.A. blood named Munchy B, and 607 Unc said, Hoover, Hoover, blank remover. And instead of blank, he said the S word that is commonly used to denigrate bloods. And then that was another thing that really, like, took off and just got tons of attention and everybody. Damn, bloody Jimmy. But then he blamed us being like, oh, oh, like you were saying I was disrespecting the Bloods.
29:57I wasn't really disrespecting the Bloods. Out here, if you say that word to a Blood, for sure it's up. Like, I don't know how I'd go in LA so I'm not going to say we not on no LA shit but I heard shit. Motherfucker get on you for wearing red or blue in LA. But you're saying that that word doesn't hold the same weight in St. Louis? No, it do. Kind of. It do. For sure. It do. In St. Louis it's more of a like dookie type of shit. Dookie? That's a diss? Yeah, that's like this and 30D grimey now Some deuces Oh shit Type shit I'm gonna make sure I don't talk about St. Louis got their own words It's like LA, they got words and shit Y 'all can't say out there LA is Bloods and Crips Yeah We ain't beefing like that in St.
30:38Louis It's about who you fuck with And what hood you from Right Cause you from a Crip hood And you from a Blood hood Right Cause you be dissing a lot in your songs But even if our hood started staticking It wouldn't fuck up our relationship We don't give a fuck about that hood shit We just give a fuck about The gang, the circle It's more clicked up Give a fuck about no street I don't give a fuck who make a video Driving down my street, down my hood I don't even be over there The police be over there If I go over there I'm gonna get harassed by the police The fuck I'm going over there for It ain't nothing over there for me Give a fuck if I ride down there and take a video So you beefing with JMO people cause he beefing with JMO Yeah I'm surprised you even know that nigga That's how that shit work Yeah that's how that shit work with us Word word word Why you be dissing that nigga so much What hood he from R.I.P.
31:32him Cause I obviously I don't even know where that nigga from I just know his ass dead I swear to God I didn't Word but it's not like no crip Hood or anything No I don't know if he a crip or a blood You knew him personally Or no Word So yeah I guess I guess it do be a lot of I guess niggas taking on each other beefs and shit right? Just naturally if we brothers yeah this my brother anybody he don't fuck with I don't fuck with him right if he say fuck the studio man then I say fuck that studio man too we ain't going to him no more you don't want to record some more dub then fuck him so that dude J-Mo he not from like your hood or nothing or word he just some little dude you know for him fats fats that's his That's his...
32:19That's his... When I heard your song, I'm like, it be going down in there. You was naming too many niggas. I'm like, yo. He don't be dissing like that. That's the first time I heard him diss recently. But when I check your shit out, that's all you do is diss. I like that shit. That shit you learn. All of them had that shit. I don't even like making diss music. If I did, I'd make a lot of motherfuckers mad. And I'd have a lot of more shit to talk about. I'll smoke J-Mo Moody fast. Tell me which one you want. So the other side They be making songs Nah Them niggas I'm a hoe Most of their ass Just like Record on band lab And drop audio All their ass suck That's why y 'all Don't know about them No views on Big Boy Visuals I fuck with Big Boy Visuals Don't get me wrong But what I'm saying is You drop on there too right They spending their money on it That's alright So Big Boy Visuals Is like the hub Where everybody in St.
33:12Louis Want to get their videos on Cause a lot of y 'all Videos is on It's just Big Boy Visuals is a cameraman. Big Boy Visuals is a good cameraman. TJ Films is a great cameraman. Tori is a great cameraman. Nico, he don't shoot no more. I don't know what the fuck he doing. I fuck with Nico, but damn Nico, man, what the fuck? He came last time. You know what I'm saying? I don't know. He don't be shooting. He still ain't even sent us a couple videos. We shot a video out here. Real shot a video out here, and he still ain't got the video back. out here when we came last time a year ago. Still ain't got the video back.
33:51Y 'all seen the dude or no? Who, Nico? Yeah. I mean, shit, we were still cool with him way after that and shit, you know? So we were still around him. He'll be like, I'm gonna get you the video. I'm gonna get you the video. He just always saying he gonna get us the video, but we ain't seen him in hell is now. That nigga that went golden nugget crazy. Yeah. He over with. The Lord! Oh, wait, wait, wait. He had a total change of heart on life in general? He ain't fucking with y 'all? I think he just with the algorithm. He think he the algorithm king, the algorithm lord. Oh, shit. So he was trying to shoot music videos to get somewhere in his career, and at a certain point he was just over it?
34:29No, I don't know what he had to change the heart of. I think he was doing too much for motherfuckers. You know what I'm saying? And he wasn't letting motherfuckers know. And I'm not even talking about me. I'm talking about multiple artists, hella artists. Like, I feel like he was doing too much for motherfuckers, and he had a problem with it, kind of. Like, he really didn't want to do it. And then he did it, and then he'll feel later on like, man, I shouldn't have did that shit. So then he just started a bunch of static with a bunch of rappers and shit. He wanted to do something different. He wanted to stop doing shit for rappers.
34:58And then the motherfuckers that do be shooting videos with him paying and shit, like, he not even getting that shit back. And I was about to say, did y 'all pay him for the video and he didn't send y 'all back? Nah, we ain't paying him. So maybe that's the problem. Is that the problem? I told him we were sending the money for me and Dallas video. Me, Dallas, and CTS T4 video. All right. Shit, he still ain't sent that motherfucker. I was like, I was on his YouTube live, and you know how you can, like, pay a dollar or something to get your comment hella big and shit? I'm like, what's up with the video?
35:29And then he like, I'm like, what's the cash shop? He's like, it's the same cash shop. He's like, he give me some more bullshit, but he like, if you send the money, it ain't going to make a difference, though. I'm still going to take, it's still going to be a minute before I send it. and it's months after we shot the video even before then, and we shot two different scenes. Like, we shot at one time, and then he came back and shot some more scenes again for the video, and we still ain't got the motherfucker back. Listen, if you take money from somebody, and you do not provide the service that that money was intended for, it's open season.
36:04You got to be careful, because, I mean, you're dealing with a bunch of dudes who are from the streets. They're not the type that are going to go to the cops. they are probably the type who are going to do something to you. If you get like you giving him 500 bucks, thousand bucks, and then him not delivering the product is like, that's like him going to you and stealing that money out of your pocket. So now that you say that, right. Yeah. When y 'all asked me earlier, if I did pay for the videos, well, no, we didn't pay for the Pharrell video. Uh, but any video that I was on, he shot type shit and the shit he recorded.
36:37I really did reimburse him for real, for real. because I signed the whole deal and gave him thousands of dollars. And if you ask him, he'll tell you that. Wick the only motherfucker broke me off. Woo, woo, woo. When What's-The-Name got signed, he ran off on me, sold the catalog on me. You know what I'm saying? He was mad because he was putting work into these artists, and then they was selling the catalogs and shit and running off on them and shit, you know? But when I did right, and then he just all of a sudden tripped out, like a little bit after that, and then shit. It ain't been the same since.
37:09I don't know so I really do feel like he I really do feel like he got over a little bit on me but it ain't no bad blood or nothing you know but I definitely feel like I paid him too much for him to just stop cause it wasn't on paper or nothing like he wasn't even my manager or nothing but shit we was making shit happen together shit you know he was the one shooting the videos he had a recording studio at his house so we making shit happen shit Where T4 at? T4 locked up? T4 in prison Or nah He went to prison He back on the ridge In the justice center And how long He been locked up for now? Oh you think blood Been locked up?
37:49Probably Not even a year Nah not even a year Probably half a year Eight months He got a date Like when he's supposed To get up? Yeah Like soon or He got a minute Yeah I ain't gonna Disclose it though He don't want me to Hey so do it Be like that in St. Louis Like niggas be having To drop home When niggas get out of jail and might try to... Yeah. I mean, they not gonna pull up to the jail, but... Outside the jail. They just be wanting to know when a motherfucker out. So now they know, like, ooh, he just got out. Don't let me see that face. You know what I'm saying? So motherfuckers will try to come home and they won't post on their Instagram and shit.
38:21You know what I'm saying? Or for rappers, though, they'll come home and then they won't go live until they drop a video, drop their first day out. That's what I wanted to do, but shit. Nico took hell of my first day out video. So I... No, what's crazy is I was gonna keep it a secret when I got out, not even on no ducking shit just on some really like on some music shit I was like I had it all planned in my head when I was in jail I'm like when I get out I ain't gonna tell nobody I'm out I'm gonna shoot my first day out and then the day my shit drop I'm gonna go live you know what I'm saying tell her you know my shit gonna crap I get out the news released that shit woo woo woo been charged with this mess went to trial woo woo woo you know won a trial you went to jail since our last interview nah oh right so that was before yeah Yeah, it is always weird.
39:08That even happened with J-Bo at one point. He had a photo when he was out of jail and we didn't know he was out of jail and we just took a photo with a random fan outside the corner store and spoiled the rollout of him getting out of jail for a little bit there. Man, free his ass. He hella big. Dude got fat as fucking her. Yeah, that's crazy, man. You fuck with his music? Yeah, something like that. Is that the only California music you listen to? like I mean I really don't really look up Cali music on my phone for real yeah but when I be with Brady listening to Mozzie and shit you know I'm saying a few other motherfuckers I can't even think of their name it's just been kind of weird to have like they sound cool like all the Chicago drill rappers I know all the New York drill type people etc they all just keep mentioning J-Bo to me and it's like damn I ain't never heard none of y 'all mention any of the lit LA street rappers Y 'all fuck with J-Bo Him and my Free J-Bo Y 'all free J-Bo Free Ballet J-Bo And free EBK J-Bo Who's Ballet J-Bo?
40:09That's our other homeboy Oh yeah Shit What other Any street rappers and shit You be fucking with? I seen you on live You on Rugrat was on live? Ooh Shit I had jumped on this live And he was just I commented and shit He was fucking with me and shit Y 'all gonna do any music or something? I mean shit I sent him an open man on some real shit I don't know if it's cause the bloodhound beef here you really ain't been uh you know what I'm saying you really ain't been fucking with me for real I don't know if he ain't fucking with me or not but I sent him an opening shit he was like I'm finna rip this motherfucker and then my IG got deleted and I texted him and a few other motherfuckers like this my new IG woo woo woo never texting me back type shit but shit yeah I didn't see your Instagram until the whole Q50 situation went down and then I happened to see it and I'm like Oh, okay.
40:58Yeah, about your CTS underscore slump. It's tough to get going when you got, like, the 500 followers and you're trying to start the new account back up, you know? It was hella funny. What comment? He is. Oh, dude, what'd I say? He said something like, this white boy. He said. He's cracking and lost his mind. That's exactly what he said. He said he's cracking and lost his mind. But that's why we always got to, like, troll and act like, bro, you're crazy. You can't get beefing with them. You're going to die. And that's just going to make you be like, I ain't going to die. I'm going to do whatever I got to do.
41:27That's how us instigating ass podcasters get a reaction out to rappers. It's a technique. I think Remo's it's been passed on for me to Remo. Even if you did think I was crazy for doing that shit, that's just your opinion shit. I don't actually. I'm sure you know how to move. Realistically, you're in a whole other city. Is it possible that something could happen? I mean, yeah, obviously anything could happen. But I mean, do I think that you're like taking on a death wish by beefing with some rappers? I mean, realistically, probably not. Yeah. In Chicago, maybe a little bit of a different calculation, but given the distance, I feel like it'll be all right.
42:04You and Esco ever piece it up yet? I don't even know who that is. I don't even know who that is, man. Oh, word. See, I still ain't patch it up. Fuck no.
42:18Fuck no. It'll never be. Fuck no. What? Damn, man. So you got a whole bunch of shit going on in St. Louis. Shit, I guess so. You think any of the violence and shit will ever slow down? Or what can y 'all even do to stop some of this shit? Things die. That's the only thing that can stop peace. So you with all that shit, you ain't even thinking about it? Fuck, man. So you're saying... We think about everything before we do everything, for sure. But you're saying that, like, everybody kind of needs to die, and then there'll be peace because there won't be any killers left. Yup. geez that's a dark future except for us okay yeah but that'll make y 'all want to fall back and shit because it should work both ways like yeah i know everybody bleed the same for sure yeah i mean sometimes when you're watching those documentaries about chicago it will be like two neighborhoods or two factions going to war killing each other and then you'll just have like a long time period where there won't really be any of that because all the killers either got killed or got locked up and at a certain point there's just nobody to really go to war anymore but then you fast forward 5, 6, 7 years you got all these kids turning into 15, 16, 17 year olds and then they start killing people and then the shit just or their daddy got killed or their daddy a killer you know yeah it's a sad story um when you said you said in one song don't get in the car with me if we ain't got the same ops that's the policy I ain't say that.
43:50Nah, he said that. Oh, I'm sure. He said, don't get in the car with me if you ain't smoking all the names you just said. If you ain't smoking, JMO Jeff will school me. You cannot get in. Oh. Yeah, you can't get in this car if you ain't smoking them. Everybody I'm with smoking them. You at least got to be all right with smoking. Y 'all niggas is crazy. Like when I say, what's the name in the wood? You can't protest like, damn, cuz. No, that's my cuz and them. Like, if that's your class, you just gotta get out. Introducing Meta Glasses. Hey, Meta. Any last-minute tables for two tonight? Sure. There's a great Italian restaurant 15 minutes away.
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45:17Taxes and fees extra. Initial plan term only greater than 50 gigabytes. May slow when network is busy. See terms. Man. See, y 'all niggas ain't worried about Bloodhound or nothing, man? Y 'all dissed the whole Bloodhound, man. Y 'all even dissed J Boogie. I'm like, I ain't even know y 'all knew who J Boogie was. Man, people was in there with him. They said that nigga got out on the snitch plea. They said that nigga J Boogie got out on the snitch plea on my daddy. Nah, he's solid. All the bloodhounds still fuck with them Man Motherfuckers tell all the time And motherfuckers come home And then they still fucking with them Because they got money or something This generation fucked up I hate this generation If you a rat If you a rat I don't fuck with you I don't give a fuck if you my mama For real Because my mama ain't gonna tell But shit if she did I cut her ass off Straight like that For real And she gonna watch this shit too Better watch out mom How your mom be feeling When she be seeing you Doing all this beef and this shit I don't think she'd be seeing all the beefy stuff.
46:17She'd just be supporting my music. You know what I'm saying? She's just more of looking at it as a supportive side. She my mama. So, you know, she's trying to ignore it. Like, oh, he's getting into crazy arguments and beef. But, you know, he's just having fun. That's what my moms will usually say. It'll be like, oh, he's done some crazy stuff. I don't know. Yeah, exactly. Do you what's your perspective on all the stuff that's been going on with Thug? Can you still listen to Young Thug? Man Man What we just said About snitches But shit I don't know I ain't seen no paperwork Or nothing like I don't know how to feel About that shit bro Like that shit crazy I just seen dude Took a plea deal On Melly shit though Melly co-defendant But they said It ain't for I don't know He's not riding on Melly He's not gonna hurt him But his plea They said When that shit Come down to it But what I heard When I watched that shit They said They need written statements And they need him to testify in trial.
47:15I mean, the thing with Thug is that it's kind of like the Gunna thing where like if Gunna had gotten out and everybody was fucking with him and doing songs with him, I think we all would have forgot about the whole Gunna's a Rat narrative, but now Thug is kind of like publicly requesting the support of Drake, Lil Baby, Migos, etc. And they all seem like they're kind of just ignoring him. So that to me is making it look more damning. Like, if he never does a song with any of these big Atlanta rappers again, to me, that's going to be indicative of, like, oh, this really, like, fucked your career up bad.
47:51Well, maybe it's just, like, how we feel about it. Like, I'm not going to sit here and get on this motherfucker and be like, fuck him, he a rat. Because I don't know for sure if he is a rat. I'm going to just lay on back. Like, I ain't going to play his music right now. But if it come out that he ain't a rat later, I hope he ain't a rat type shit, you know? Alright, but from what you've seen, do you have to have black and white for, alright, cause they're making up new rules and shit. Two hour interrogation seems almost as good as black and white, right? Don't have proof of a nigga telling two hour interrogation you can sit there and be sleeping damn near the whole time.
48:21That's right. If two hours, but they do sound like a long time though. You don't say shit in their interrogation room but we're your lawyer. Yeah. You're not even supposed to be in there. So you seen him talking there for two hours or something. I didn't watch it. But now that you know that he was in there talking for two hours and he didn't ask for a lawyer, what you think about that? How did that make you feel as a street nigga? Man, he shouldn't have did that. When the police ask, they ask you something because they don't know. They might ask you something and they already know, but anything you tell them ain't going to help you.
48:48You can't talk your way out of shit. All right, because this is this gray area now where everyone's saying, all right, in order for you to be a snitch, you could be a snitch, but then you can't be a snitch. If they catch you on camera and you say some shit that's dry snitching, you a snitch, but then niggas are saying, no, he ain't a snitch until someone's on paperwork that he got in jail. like so what's the rules to you? I think if I see a video of somebody telling they telling that ain't dry snitching that's snitching that's more than paperwork I mean there's all kinds of reasons why your testimony might not be used and you'd still be able to call it snitching I watched a video of a motherfucker telling me really?
49:24word word that kind of fuck up your that give you trust issues? hell yeah and it was an older motherfucker too not from the same situation My fucker had been to the joint and shit. He had all tattoos and shit. So I'm thinking like, shit, he ain't gonna fold. What do you do? He got nothing but for his old ass and started talking. I don't fuck with him or none of his cousins. It's good to have that experience though because even with me, I can never sell drugs. I can never really traffic drugs because I just have seen too many situations where people thought they had a foolproof plan to sell drugs and then somebody just starts telling on them.
50:01And it's like by involving a bunch of people in a criminal operation, they're just going to tell on you. It's like, unless it's maybe a blood situation or a really LinkedIn, like best friend situation, maybe, but man, it's wicked. That's wicked. Shit. Like, yeah, you got to watch who you trust for show. You got to watch who you trust. You got to watch who you put in your business. You know what fucked me up is that, that thug song that he put out, the seven minute song where he's kind of like apologizing to everybody. and asking for people to fuck with them. Musically, that song sucked. That just did not feel like the thug that I want to hear rap.
50:40I ain't the whole song. It's a song where he said, gunna rap, dude on rap. No, that was a leak. This is like another song that he put out where he was kind of like talking to Lil Baby, talking to Mariah the Scientist, kind of apologizing to everybody and shit. But musically, artistically, I was like, damn, maybe you lost it because this ain't it. Damn. man and then whoever he was talking to about glorilla i mean like everybody got their opinion i don't think glorilla look bad or nothing but everybody got their opinion type shit right if i'm sitting on the phone with my gal right and i'm like this bitch hella ugly why the fuck should that get leaked like i'm sitting there straight talking to my gal on a jail call and that shit get leaked you know how fucking mad i'd be like whatever we talking about ain't even posted like we on a fucking jail call like what if he was just trolling like even he met that shit but shit that don't mean shit what the fuck that got it ain't like he he put that shit out there like yeah he can think whatever he wants shit but he was gunning that razz though i ain't gonna lie when you are in a relationship with a girl a lot of times like you basically are forbidden to ever say that any other girl is hot well you just are not like i feel like i'm in a relationship where we can have that conversation but most people you are not allowed to say you are not if you walk by a woman with huge D cup tits, you're not allowed to look at them.
51:59That's just like a lot of people's relationships. So yeah, she says something about Glorilla. You got to be like, man, that bitch beat. She's nasty. I would never fuck her secretly in the back of your head. You're like, I would love to fuck her. That's like every dude. It's just kind of ugly and weird to see it come to the surface. So hold on, hold on, hold on. That's just, that's some instant Christian. So yo, yo bitch is a porn star, right? It's crazy, bro. It's a crazy world out here. She get paid hells, though. How much she get paid? You know. We're doing all right. Take it off the street, boy.
52:31Man. You ever thought about doing a threesome with her? They do. That's all they do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cut. All he do is gang. All he do is fuck other badass bitches. That's all he do, bro. Like, he fuck all badass bitches, bro. Like, if he want to fuck a bitch, all he got to do. Man, all them dudes. Me and another dude and her? No, we've done that. Yeah, they done that before. No, we done that. You can't trust her until you've seen her with another dude's dick in her mouth in front of you. Fuck no, bro. No, that's love. That's trust. That's just, look, bro, you living how you live. You living how you live it, gang.
53:08But shit, I don't agree with that. I know it's not for everybody. It's a weird way of life. I could never have imagined it a few years ago, but here we are. Once I see another dick in her mouth. Yeah, once I see a dick in her mouth, I can't be with the bitch. Fuck no, but shit. I would have completely agreed with you. Y 'all know some even shit like She done seen you fuck a million bitches So yeah If anything our exchange rate is fucked up Cause I fucked 800 girls with her and she's fucked like 3 dudes Outside of me 4 I forget Anyway
53:45So what you got planned what's going on What's the plan We put the tape together I don't even know the name of that motherfucker yet Both of y 'all together Oh, you're doing solo tapes It's gonna have them on it But shit It's gonna be my tape Does it feel like You're getting a lot more fans And like people are more interested In what you have going on Even with all this Bullshit that's been going on Yeah, I think it's definitely Bringing a lot more Controversial stuff You gotta seize that opportunity And just go crazy Let them know That's why I gained them What they want and shit I don't even make this music Let me see the light Only make this music machine fans like you got to you got to But you're not taking the bait 100 % I'm gonna just go crazy and just make a whole tape Oh, q50 this tape.
54:38Oh fuck. I mean I didn't necessarily snort parks all day I'm not gonna get them out my valuable talent. Hmm. I don't know fucking take Welcome Damn It's a ground man. You and Bloodhounds, y 'all never be cool and look like. Love it. Yeah. No OGs. We got to piece it up. We got to get in there. I don't know. We can, man. They said a lot. Yeah. Tommy G been trying to piece it up. Oh, yeah. Yeah, there you go. All right, so what's the conversation? I see them comment on the Bloodhound video. He's like, can we squash this one? Some shit like that. I'm just like, man, come on, man. What you and Tommy G relationship now?
55:20I fuck with Tommy G hella hard. It ain't no love lost or nothing because he be trying to squash beef or nothing. Like, I understand where he coming from fully. But I do be feeling like he trying to do it for the fans and shit too. You know what I'm saying? I feel like he genuinely do want motherfuckers to just have peace. You know what I'm saying? But shit, he got to remember it's deeper than that, bro. That shit dead. That shit over with. He trying to squash more beef outside of Q50 shit? Like other shit in St. Louis? Yeah. Yeah. It's deeper than just the conversation with him. Yeah, it's deeper than, like, he just, like, can y 'all just squash it, bro?
55:54Like, I'll come down and do a video y 'all squashing it. Like, that's what he wants to do. Like, that's straight what he wants to do. He wants to come down and do a video of two motherfuckers that's beefing, squashing it, and actually being cool after that and dropping music after that. See, that's why it's kind of good to have somebody like him who's kind of outsider on all this, because, like, nobody in your world would actually be requesting that sort of thing. But he's kind of, like, naive or, you know, he's positive enough that he's, like, why not? Why can't we give it a shot? I mean, I ain't gonna fake it.
56:22That is some shit that we get in the real world. Like, that is some shit that we get in St. Louis. Like, it might be a motherfucker calling us like, bro, that's my little cousin, bro. Please don't touch him, bro. Like, I don't care what y 'all do to everybody else. Just don't touch him. You know what I'm saying? We'll be like, man, your cousin jumped in that shit. You know? All right, let me ask you this. Who was he requesting you to sit down with? I don't even ask her. Some nobodies, man. Not even. Word. Some niggas not even on the map. Some niggas ain't even on the map. Word. The thing is, is that for two sides to men to beef, there has to be respect, mutual respect, and there has to be somebody in between it that both sides respect.
57:06And a lot of times, like, the way beef goes down these days is, like, you get to the point that there's no coming back to a respectful state very quickly. Even the OG, like, I can't tell y 'all nothing at this point, LeBron. I don't like it but it is what it is you know what I'm saying that's real shit well cross our fingers hopefully man Tommy G gonna fix this shit it's too much on it's too much on Eastside but it's like we gonna be seeing like we like alright with Chicago they got like spot them news where we be seeing all the sliding and shit that's going on with St. Louis we don't really know about it like that unless y 'all rap about it and shit like that it's spot them news like the little app and shit yeah that be on Twitter and every time Twitter accounts.
57:48So when they say we're going to put your ass on spot, they're talking about basically saying that there's going to be a tweet that says there was a shooting at this address or whatever. Because we're going to be hearing and seeing a slide. I was just watching the look. I was watching somebody's shit in Chicago, and they had the red jackets on and shit. And then they was like, they just put us on the app. Young individuals out here with guns. And then they went and put the guns up and shit. And then the police pulled up on them and shit. They was lifting their shirt up and shit. Is that what y 'all talking about?
58:16Or is that some whole different shit? That's probably Citizen app. That's like the Citizen app. Yeah, that's what I was thinking about. Because the Spot app, isn't that connected to the thing where they just detect gunshots? Or is it connected to police calls about what areas they're going to? Whoever's doing it on Twitter, they be having... I think they got the police scanner and they just tweet it out. Because they literally be... As soon as gunshots go off, they already tweet it out. That's insane. Man, that's your day-to-day is just sitting there by the fucking police radio just updating Twitter.
58:49That's fucking hilarious. But, hey, I appreciate you guys pulling up. Keep going hard with the music. Let's stop the beef. Right? Let's promote some music right now. Wrong. We ain't going to start no new beef. We ain't looking for no new beef. We ain't ducking shit. Fuck all the crackers, nigga. Fuck Blondhound, K nigga. You know what the fuck going on, nigga. Slump some game, Slump Slump. You don't have to fuck what I do. Free T-Fold. Free Fox. Free my members. CTS Slump a game. If you ain't Slump a game, we take your Thump a game. Shit. Free Remo. Shout out to everybody who watched this. Everybody go turn these boys up.
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