Daphne Joy on Her Ideal Man, Drake vs Kendrick, Micropenises & More

0:00No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world and I am very very excited today to bring you guys the first ever IRL interview with the talk of the internet, Daphne Joy. Hi. How you doing? I'm good, how are you? I'm over the moon to be here today. Really? Yeah. Thanks. Yeah, I'm super excited that you were down to come on. Yes. Yeah, I feel like, I feel like, okay, this is just my assumption. I feel like you decided to come out of your shell a little bit, given certain recent controversies, and that you kind of like picked podcasters to do podcasts with that had recently said horny things about you on the internet.

0:44I think me and academics both fall into that category. Oh, what were you saying? I honestly. Oh, I was just talking about, you know, some footage that was recently released. and I was just basically you know being quite adamant about how attractive I found you oh thank you and uh you know I think him too and so I feel like that that's pretty good I think that's like a good way to choose what podcasts you'll do right is just find dudes who are publicly adoring you oh I mean I feel like it's about people who maybe aren't afraid to touch on the subject and maybe have more of an understanding of it a little bit.

1:25And then also, yeah, I guess conversation and understanding. Yeah, because you and him, I mean, it was pretty viral. You guys seemed like you were kind of hitting it off there. Oh. But I think a lot of people were unsure if you were, like a lot of people were kind of throwing him in the like simp category there because, you know, the smile on his face and stuff. And I know academics gets girls and everything, but I feel like you you had him feeling a certain type of way oh I love that yeah um well with academics he by the way if I talk slow it's just my way of calming myself down no for sure I mean this is a safe space don't worry thank you I'll catch up to your speed for sure yeah yeah no he was uh definitely he's a really large voice and I just find him so hilarious um as I told him like underneath all the vulgar words and the profanity I definitely could see a man that was honestly attracted to me yeah and um I even like screenshot this one where he was like watching my my reel or something and he literally had his mouth open right and I was like yeah I want to talk to him yeah he's an appreciator of beautiful women I've found out about some websites through him just casually mentioning them oh nice yeah and i love men who love women and adore them and and really just devour the essence of a woman so right i'm into that well one thing i thought that was funny that you said to him was like you know he was basically like asking you what you found attractive and you were basically like i'm attracted i i'm attracted to the fact that you're attracted to me right which is kind of a low bar to me oh you think so well that's like the highest bar i feel like probably like a pretty large percentage of men are attracted to you right oh thank you i would assume and you're probably used to that it's probably been a lifetime of this for you right um i tend to be on the shire side so i don't really i i appreciate it but um I'm not really always in large situations where I would kind of feel that always, if that makes sense.

3:44I'm kind of away from a lot of things. You do seem pretty ducked off. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure there had been an option for you to do an interview for many years now, and you just kind of chose not to do so, right? Yes. I'm definitely more of just the quiet type. I just want to be in peace, away from attention. I don't really, I mean, granted, of course, I have my social media and I really love and enjoy like shooting and all the aesthetic, beautiful things. I love going to beautiful places and things like that. But I don't really gravitate towards a certain type of attention. I would just, attention comes to me, but I don't really seek it.

4:27You know what I'm saying? yeah but if you do only fans at a certain point it's like attention is the whole business yes so that's why you have girls creating like fake storylines about themselves and including things that would be generally considered you know embarrassing or disgusting by many people's standards but you know when it comes down to it attention right really drives signups so um with that I will say that from my fan base that I've created through the years I realized okay so this is really the next thing to just have more intimacy get to know get to know them better have them get to know me better and like I as I've said I I love that academics was the main thing was his attraction to me was what attracted to me and so in just with OnlyFans I am it's a bit of a turn on that the men are so turned on by me so it's it's developed i've only been on it for about a year and a half now and i'm just like i'm even well that the attention that it gets and just like all like the love letters and just how i make make a man feel and they're so like deep with it like it really like excites me for sure and so um i think it's a beautiful thing and i'm having a lot of fun with it and it's been feeling more for me just I feel really like more liberated by being on it I feel like I can be more myself I feel like it's so funny I used to like just post like um I don't know like booty shorts or something you know and now I'm like a little bit more sensual and seductive on it and I feel like my fans have really seen me like opening up more i get more comfortable for sure right because i mean part of the difference i think in interview style with me and ak uh is that ak is a single man okay so i think that like you know whether it's likely to occur or not you and him it really kind of felt like a little bit of a first date even though it was through the computer yeah whereas i'm a married man right but you know I'm also, I don't know if you know, but I'm OnlyFans performer as well.

6:44Oh, nice. Me and my wife have a podcast called Plug Talk where we interview a different girl every week and then sleep with her on camera. Oh, wow. So it's a whole thing. Okay, cool. Okay, cool. How did you develop such a comfortability in your relationship? Well, when I met her, I think we both just had a little bit of a performative side to us. like very early on she would be you know we would be hooking up yeah and somehow we would just like think of somebody that we were both friends with like some girl and we would just kind of facetime them and all of a sudden we're like hooking up for their enjoyment sort of and then that turned into us you know meeting girls out and about bringing them home and then that turned into her saying like hey like wednesday at six would you be down to bang me and so and so uh for my only fans and i was like yeah sure i'll do it whatever i'm happy to do it and then as time got went by and we got married and everything like that we kind of started this podcast together and then that sort of just became like a different level where i mean because she used to get a little jealous back in the day and now at this point she doesn't care like i shoot without her sometimes with other girls and stuff like that and it's totally fine with it which is kind of Kind of crazy that we got to that point.

8:04Yeah. Well, I feel like maybe that's due to a lot of trust, right? Exactly. Yeah. A lot of emotional trust. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Yeah. It's great. Yeah. The more trust, the better. Right? Yeah, definitely. And I've always been like a very nonjudgmental, free-spirited person, just, you know, open-minded about a lot of things. So I could see how that was really exciting in your relationship for sure. I definitely think that it's a beautiful thing to have that with someone because it's kind of a meeting of the minds. You're not like hiding who you really are and your desires. And I feel like that's where a lot of people get tripped out because they lack the honesty and like they don't want to.

8:56I don't know. maybe it's distrust or lack of honesty for control or something but i'm glad you guys don't have that well like nice i had a friend back in the day who like literally his girlfriend would end up beating the shit out of him because he would like look at a girl oh wow in public which i think i've always kind of known that that wasn't another type of relationship for me you know like if i'm gonna to be forced to take my manhood and the fact that i find women attractive and just like put that away for the next 40 years while we're in a relationship i mean that just doesn't really seem sustainable i would rather we be able to have that conversation yeah that that honesty and the openness but your friend probably like getting beat up you think is he still with her uh i don't know what that particular friend is doing but then okay and then on the other hand i have a friend lush who's in the other room and he uh he was up until recently dating a very violent mexican woman oh wow she abused him it was actually a really sad scenario i had to like help him get out of it yeah and so we would be like out doing a vlog and um you know there would be girls around and you know he'd have to be off in the corner arguing on the phone with her and she'd be screaming at him yeah and it's like he he would not be doing anything inappropriate right you know and and he would just be getting destroyed and then she there was one time where she beat his ass so bad that he couldn't come into work for a week oh my god so that was tough okay that's that's a little crossing the red line a bit and unless you like that or is are they still together no he he had to flee her because she was such an abusive monster oh my god yeah i had to block her on instagram because she was just having just vent sessions in my dms for yeah days at a time and um i think she should be imprisoned oh no possibly forever that's not okay yeah she has she's on a non-sexy vibe she's on a whole another psych psychotic vibe maybe yeah we have to we have to take a stand against the abusive women yeah yeah yeah but anyway that to me that's like i don't know okay are you are you a jealous lover if you're with a guy that you really love are you i would say i'm very possessive yeah i'm very possessive and um but i'm also really realistic so i don't really know where i fall in that i would just prefer like honesty um and just always knowing the truth but um and but I mean I can't help my emotions I'm when I share my body with somebody I'm like extremely extremely tied to them and just like want them all to myself and like um yeah those jealous feelings and those possessive feelings come through but not in a slapping my man way though right so wait okay yeah me and you are hypothetically if we were in a relationship okay and like would you prefer for it to be completely exclusive or do you think that there's room for experimentation or one party you know venturing off with somebody else from time to time i would definitely prefer exclusive but like i said just kind of being realistic i feel like men are you know a bit animalistic and i don't know if monogamy is sometimes always works for men but um if my my partner my lover is significant other if if he started opening up the conversation to inviting you know women and all that then as long as there's honesty and openness I think you know good conversation and making me feel included or comfortable then I think that you know it could be a beautiful thing too so if we're dating and I hit you up and I say, hey, I met this girl at the mall.

13:01Okay. She's gorgeous. Okay. She wants to come over. Is that something you'd be open-minded about? Or I don't know. Is that something that would bother you? I would ask a lot of questions. I would be open-minded. I would, I guess I would better assess the situation if I was in it. Yeah. How about you? How does that usually go for you in those scenarios? Well, it's actually convenient with my wife. and we do content you know yeah so maybe when we were younger before we had kids and everything it would be a little bit more possible to say hey i met somebody would you be open to them spending the night with us that sort of thing right but now like i mean our time is just so like fragmented because we're just like i work all the time she works a lot but then she's also you know obviously carrying like a little bit more of the burden in terms of the kid yeah so in that regard we don't do a lot of sleeping around off camera but i can for sure you know meet a girl and send her instagram to like the group chat that like is our business and be like hey would you like to shoot with this girl right because i think that's part of it with my wife concerned and you get kind of spoiled in the porn shit because it's like everybody's tested right there's no emotional involvement you know i feel like that's the weird part is like if i was like hey i want us to like have it through some of this girl i just met she's gonna be thinking like there's probably some kind of emotional connection if you're just bringing somebody in like that whereas with the porn thing right maybe that could happen but historically for us it doesn't really yeah everybody's just kind of business as usual right what uh sparks your interest like what makes you excited and makes you give her that phone call to be like hey like what about a woman do you like what piques your interest in that moment i mean physically obviously probably but i guess i was almost clowning you before for saying the thing about you liked academics because he liked you but my wife always makes fun of me because she says that like my type is like crazy fan crazy fan oh oh oh if a girl comes up to me and she's like oh my god i want to you i love your podcast oh yeah like a worshiping energy i love that i don't i guess you're not supposed to as a dude like that's supposed to be as a as a famous person you're not supposed to fans oh isn't that like the best part well i mean i can see the value for sure but then also like okay devil's advocate people would talk about like the power dynamic differential and it's kind of weird if you're you know but you're like their fantasy and i know you're giving them a sense of pleasure for an excitement too so right who am i not to engage that exactly right yeah that's all i'm saying lena um oh i'm sorry i don't mean to go against what she believes no she yeah she gets and appreciates that about me even if she likes to give me a hard time about it i think yeah oh i i need my man to be so excited for me i need him to feel like it's the first day he's ever met me or right that excitement is you know it's definitely my my driving force it gets me excited how hot you are for me is it makes me even hotter right you're like a phone sex operator like the way you speak and shit like a softness of your voice like i've not that i ever like pursued a phone sex operator but i've probably seen in like tv and movies when i was a kid but yeah i mean it's like mixed messaging with my wife too because it's like on one hand you are the most beautiful woman to me in the world yeah and i would be overjoyed to spend the rest of my life with you but then the other side is as long as we're young and having fun yeah let's uh let's experiment a little bit let's let's get some some other girls involved why not right or even dudes yeah because she shoots with other guys from time to time as well really how do you feel about that um at first i was a bit more conflicted about it i mean it was always primarily a business thing we've never really done that for just pure pleasure you know really yeah so she can't phone you and be like hey i see this really hot guy at the bar that would be a problem for sure i can put myself in how she would feel like in the prior scenario of me going to the mall and meeting a girl yeah for sure if She was like, hey, I just met this really hot male stripper.

17:32I want to. Oh, my gosh. So it doesn't go both ways. OK, so like I said, we don't really do it off camera anyway. OK. So everything's kind of like prearranged. But what if she wants to? What if she gets the hots for somebody and calls you? See, OK, just this verbiage right there. Gets the hots for him. That could be a problem. Yeah. Getting the hots for. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, it's human nature, you know. It's so much easier for me to understand it when it's content. When it's like, oh, she slept with this dude. He's got an 11-inch dick. But it was just for the video. And so, okay, maybe she enjoys it while she's doing it.

18:12But, you know, it's clearly being done for the purpose of making money. That's a lot easier. Whereas if it was just some pure, hey, I just want to fuck this guy. that would be that would carry a little bit of a different weight mentally for me i probably wouldn't be so into that yeah but i mean i've talked to other dudes before and shit yeah does it pose like a little bit of a threat for you or i think that the level of trust in the relationship makes it so it doesn't feel like a threat you know so she can call you then okay but but it being done under the guise of like content makes it like i haven't had to cross that bridge of like her just wanting to because i don't really do that to her either like oh i want those girls just come over we're just gonna have fun yeah that's like kind of a different thing when it's content it just feels different yeah yeah i don't know um so there's a different element that you haven't really explored yet right because we have talked about that about like swinging potentially like maybe we go out with another couple and we take turns with each other at a certain point or something like that you know i could kind of appreciate the idea of it you don't want to do that we haven't crossed that it's okay it's good for a man and not want to share you either yeah that's really hot too yeah like if i wasn't possessive that would be a little weird right oh yeah it's it's hotter when you're possessive okay thank you yeah but wait it's hotter if you're possessive but then you're able to be open-minded as well like let's say hypothetically if if my partner was what was open and and liked to be with someone else but I couldn't I would I would I would just mess with them you know I'm the type I would just like I mess with him a little bit like oh so I saw this hot guy and just that at the gym and blah blah like can I take him home never really having intention to do it but just just to do it and him feeling a little bit jealous and getting him worked up it that excites me so I think that's sexy maybe it's like just from looking at your Instagram and everything but I feel like you are just like a purely sexual being you just kind of like when you're not having sex you're kind of just chilling around the house thinking about having sex with the future is do I have you wrong or is this like something that occupies a big part of your mind on a day-to-day basis oh yeah definitely yeah because it's not something i can really like act on all the time um um because you just don't always have the right guy around or no it's just like when i when i share myself like that i definitely want to be in love like be in lust i love being in lust um i want to have like a chase I want to have like the honeymoon phase.

21:16I love the obsessive energy, like the, I just can't stop thinking about you. I've just been, you know, dreaming about you. You're in my mind. It's not like that, you know, working up to that. And I haven't really opened myself up to anybody to get to that point. I haven't really liked anybody enough really. but when I do have that um I just I want something really special because I want to just like really give it my all and really just have my way so you feel like you have a pretty high bar that needs to be met for a guy to really like earn that level of attention from you yeah it's definitely not just physical I would say it's physical and then it's connection conversation charm and just if we and banter a bit and how comfortable he makes me.

22:05Yeah, you just kind of know when you have a spark, kind of like when you know. But it's like you, I feel like, are attracted to guys who are very busy, very powerful. Yes. They're not necessarily the types of guys who have a lot of time to just sort of lounge around and do whatever sensual acts you might be thinking of. I don't know. It feels like a kind of natural contradiction because you're attracted to these sort of high-powered guys who might be like the definitive type of guys that don't necessarily have enough time to be able to be there all the time for what you're interested in. For my appetite.

22:49Yeah. Right. um yeah so when i get it like it's definitely like i feel hotter and sexier because they made the time for me and um i like that they prioritize me um i guess that excites me too so when if i guess if a guy has too much time i guess what you're he's a loser no he's not a loser yeah if he has too much time he's probably a loser or just like a rich kid or something i've never really had like a boy toy um i'm kind of scared to have a boy toy boy toy meaning like a guy who's like good excess at sex but he's like too accessible he's just like around he's like free just like super ready all the time because some of the like only fans girls that i know who make a shitload of money yeah that's the archetype that their boyfriend falls into is he's just like he's cool he's chill he sits around rolling blunts all day or whatever and he's he's dope he's a nice guy but But he doesn't have that crazy entrepreneurial business mind state that myself or maybe some of the guys that you've dealt with are on where I want to be working bare minimum eight hours a day.

24:02Yeah. Well, as I said too, I'm newly single. So I'm just exploring my freedom. And I've never really tried somebody who had a lot more time for me. And that could be nice too. I'm kind of scared of it too because... I don't know. I would never want to make them fall in love with me and break their heart or anything. You can't go into it being scared of breaking their heart. I'm sure you've broken plenty of hearts. I just want to be careful with people's emotions. I feel like it's not just sex, too. Interesting. Have you ever been the unicorn? What's that? Like the couple, and then you're the third who's sleeping with the husband and wife.

24:50That I'm the third? So you're the third who's coming into the situation and spicing up their sex life? No. You've never done that? Not physically, maybe. But I do have fans who I think are, they fantasize about me being like that unicorn, I guess. Could you imagine yourself being open to that kind of scenario?

25:15I don't think so. Jay-Z and Beyonce summon you. We want to spend a night with you. It's just a random name I'm pulling out of a hat. But I highly doubt that they do that. You'll probably know about it if they did that. But if that was, you know, I'm trying to think of like a. Well, you know, never say never. So we'll see. But right now I'm trying to envision that if I would. I would have to be really attracted to the woman and make sure that she was okay with it first. Beyonce. It's pretty attractive, right? Yes. Interesting. So where did you grow up? I grew up in the Philippines. Oh, until what age?

25:57Six. Six? Yeah. And then you came to America? Yes. And you settled where? California. Oh, so you live in California still? Yes. Nice. Trying to get me to have a stalker is Adam. No. Feel free to be perfectly vague about that. I was just curious. Where are you from? I'm from New Hampshire. Oh, nice. Which is really kind of like the Philippines. It's basically just some place that people don't really know that much about. Yeah. So when did you embark on this journey? I mean, I moved to New York when I was like 20. And I was in Brooklyn and Queens for like six, seven years. And then I moved to Long Beach in 2009.

26:41and then just sort of like steadily upgraded my parts of southern california that i've lived in but my wife and i bought a house like 2019 or something like that so when did you guys meet we met in 2016 oh nice on uh on instagram oh cute she dm me okay somehow that was enough love a girl who goes for it yeah i mean she actually was dm me about something work related She worked at an agency. Remember Arsenic? I do. Because she said that she found out about you back when she. Oh, nice. But she wasn't doing anything related to her looks at that time. She was just like an assistant or something. And so that's a.

27:25She was emailing or she was DMing me to try to get me to interview these two random models. Okay. From this agency. and so then I basically twisted it on her and said actually let's go out for a drink oh my gosh I love that that's so sweet it's kind of sexy she's like the girl that's like kind of the you know behind the scenes Cinderella yeah exactly she was scrubbing the floor and I helped elevate her in life right no it's not like that at all because me and her were both like not really doing terribly well for ourselves at that time so like that's actually the weird thing about our relationship is that the entire time that her or i have been like famous or well off financially okay has been while we've been together so amazing life before lena broke bmx dude uh because i rode bikes for like 20 years before the podcast thing yeah and then and she was just like a regular girl and then since we've been together has basically been the part of our life where we've been you know she's the apple of your eye she is the apple of my eye that's sweet and she's armenian oh i love that that's great which is great she's the armenian of my eye oh that's so sweet that's good wait so are you in the adult film industry yes okay so you're a porn star or content creator or i don't know i mean yeah we uh we interview a different girl every week and then sleep with her as part of our podcast which is available at plug talk.com daphne joy episode coming soon right i assume that's what we're doing here right yeah no yeah she she got me into it okay basically when i met her she basically like told me about only fans right and she said do you think i should do this right and i said that's like nobody's gonna nobody's gonna pay 20 bucks a month to see you naked when they could sign up for a porn site and she said well a lot of people keep asking me to do it little did you know little did i know she made like 30 grand on like week one oh that's amazing so that kind of changed her life all of a sudden yeah yeah so i i did see when i because i was studying you a little bit I did see that um there was a little controversy with you and another male actor or content creator and it was kind of a three you guys were all three together um you're probably thinking of jason love yes yes so that was who she shot her first scene with another guy besides me with yeah which is the biggest only fan scene of all time no way yeah that's what they say how do you feel about that in hindsight oh it was a fun little lark i mean she shot like with a few other guys since then and uh yeah i mean it felt like a a fair scenario given that i probably shot with like a thousand girls with her over the last 10 years yeah so did it turn you on a little bit a little bit yeah i'm not gonna lie yeah i got a little bit of that uh a little bit of that bad boy in me if you know what i'm saying yeah what part of it like started to turn you on uh probably just seeing her getting banged by this like huge black dick i guess like it's weird i never like thought that i would have been that into it but then when i actually saw it i was kind of like ah okay i got a little bit of that dog in me and how did it feel just having a watch were you taking parts no i uh saw the video after the fact what oh i thought you were like present no that's like a weird assumption or like rumor that people have is that they think that i filmed it oh so you weren't even present no okay i see yeah it's different yeah you think i should have been present i think so i think i think that it I mean, I'm not going to tell you what to do with your...

31:23I feel like it would have made her nervous. Really? Yeah. I don't know. At least for the first one, I think it was pretty good. But I've never been there to just see her shoot with her guy. But we've done threesomes with other dudes. Oh, you have? Yeah. So you've partaken. Yeah, yeah. Just not that first one. Oh, I see. Okay. So when you're partaking, how does it feel? like what excites you the moment that it starts to happen or like which part is like the turn on what's the lead up that makes you get like is it her enjoyment is it him is it the

32:05but i mean yeah i mean i guess i i would say that it's hot to me in the same way that like I'll watch a porn scene of a girl hooking up with two dudes at the same time. And that's turn on. And you can kind of separate the emotion from the physical. Yeah, I think I've been able to do that as time went on. The first time it was a little nerve-wracking. You don't know how you're going to feel when you're actually in that moment. But once you get into the moment, it was great. Was it though? what you don't think i'm not totally convinced but that's really well you're not convinced that i thought it was cool um yeah no i'm not totally convinced but that's okay no for sure like there's there's moments of us having done content with other guys that are very much like seared you know how you have like a a collection of like the sort of like hottest things that you've done in your life that you kind of like might reference back to when you're forced to masturbate from memory okay oh so some of those scenes coming those have sort of made it into the spank bank as they call it yeah i think that's fair to say yeah as long as you're into it and you like it okay i feel like you well i mean you've you've been with guys who that was sort of their fantasy maybe to see you with another man as well as themselves right i've heard rumblings yeah so why is it hard for you to believe that i would be cool with it um because i know how it feels to not be i know how it feels to maybe fulfill my partner's desires more so than mine because i love them so much and i just really want to make them happy and i just like really want to see them completely fulfilled so sometimes if that's their desire and their want what does that mean for you it means that you're kind of agreeing you know but did that was that your was that your own you know what i'm saying i mean i think you know where i'm going with the impulse though like comes from the fact that we know that it's going to be uh profitable more so than like hey let's let's just do this with this other guy because we feel like it right we never really like got to that point got it which i could i could see that as well like especially now that the band-aids kind of been ripped off and it's like i'm i'm used to it or i'm like it's been normalized to me yeah because for prior to now speaking you a little bit more i i truthfully and pardon if you don't like this word but i i honestly thought you were more in like a kind of world okay so yeah typically designates that the guy wants to be in like a subservient or like humiliated position you ever heard the term hot wifing i'm learning as i go right so hot wifing is kind of like the more it's like essentially the same act as what might be because there's like a type thing but it's like where a guy appreciates seeing his girl with another guy just because he thinks it's hot and he doesn't want to be like denigrated you know because like even before my wife i spent time with other porn performers and like i mean for sure i've seen some of this content that was like really weird involving them where like the dude would be like sitting in the corner and he's just like you know sort of just watching i'm like for sure i don't have any desire to be like made to feel less than as part of that yeah it doesn't have to go to that like humiliation like lane for sure i feel like um it's just something that can just be simply naughty you know so it's not like i don't i don't find that it's a bad term right it's just like a naughty term i just don't i mean i accept that that's what people are gonna call it just because people have like kind of a oversimplified version of what the cuck thing means right but it's very layered within our porn star community they wouldn't call me that because i don't have like the desire to be humiliated as part of it right and in fact if you know if the guy if the other guy were to in any way you know be anything other than like totally cool about it yeah that would be upsetting to me yeah for sure probably like go shoot them or something oh yeah not like actually shoot them but like i I would be really pissed off.

37:01Yeah, got to keep it respectful, sexy, comfortable. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. So if you were to do a role play, if you were to do a brand new scene. A role play, huh? And it's you and your wife and another man. And now with this newfound word or interest that probably peaks. Because there is a lane for that. There are people who are very fascinated with that. Yeah. thing and remove the humiliation aspect of it but you're kind of playing into that how would that scenario go for you uh i don't know i've never done like a role playing you've never done role playing well you give me an example of what you've done role playing well like i'm pretending to be a power ranger and then she's pretending to be the other power ranger i never like put on a mask I never like showed up with like a yeah a bucket and a mop and I was like I'm the janitor right hey oh no what are you doing I mean you know the porn skit thing right that's that's a thing but we don't really do a lot of that I think um just from speaking to you if I were to choose a role play for you that I think might be spicy and fun um I think it would be like you're coming home unexpectedly early and yeah and i find her and you see the door just you know slightly cracked open right and you're like this is weird and you see like a footstep mark that it's not usually there and then you kind of hear some sounds okay muffled sounds it sounds like cheating this is a role play but so in the scenario that you're describing i'm just like hyped on this okay but no that's i'm asking because that's well that's on you right i'll be upset i'll be like what are you doing yeah is this upsetting you i can stop no no that's cool i'm okay with like uh curing out your fantasies

39:10where were we wait so okay okay yeah question you really love your wife and i love that i do i love that so much i love that you just want to devour her yeah you and only her her just you for you i love that energy i know you're really getting me worked up yeah you're just like i really love and admire that i love that for you guys yeah it's very important that's important yeah yeah definitely you started as a video vixen i did what was the first video you ever did i just talk about present tense okay yeah but you did that for a long time or a little bit okay yeah so there's probably i have to rely on the reddit sleuths to go figure out your imdb i just do like social media i just do social media and just post on instagram and stuff and not my OnlyFans.

40:05Do you have aspirations to do things outside of OnlyFans? I'm figuring it out. I mean, I feel like this is very new for me. A lot of people were even commenting that they've never even heard me speak. That is true. I was astounded when I searched for interviews with you and couldn't find anything. Yeah. I found little, tiny... I actually didn't even watch it, but I seen something from 12 years ago, but I didn't even watch it. I like to just and I don't mind like people you know just uh creating their own thing about me and whatever I just uh I don't really speak I just kind of go on with my life do you feel like you're like playing a character in a way because you don't really want people to necessarily know like I feel like there's probably a lot of elements of your personality that you don't want to be out there you kind of would rather people just know you for the sultry sexual part of your existence i feel like they're getting to know it now more than ever but even like on the academics one you did as well as kind of on this one you're keeping it confined to a particular so back to the role play yeah yeah okay so so now i am the one getting interviewed about your fascination with the porn industry i mean it's fascinating isn't it no it's fun i'm happy to shepherd you into this yeah this is oh okay well well i mean i i can't help but think that there's part of you that like wonders what it would be like if your life had gone in a different direction and you decided to be a porn star you ever thought about it when you were younger no but i like being my man's porn star for sure okay yeah that's good yeah yeah so you open the door oh my god

42:06okay and so but i can't like okay maybe i'm bad at role-playing but it's hard for me to imagine opening the door and seeing her with another guy and not being just driven into a frenzy yeah because i feel like the whole thing that makes us able to step outside of our relationship is the trust right right that i don't feel like she would ever do anything sexual outside of my purview like everything has to be like authorized and approved by me yeah absolutely so i it would be hard for me to get into this role play thing of me like walking in and being anything other than furious well let's pretend that you guys had really open honest conversations that she's been really like wanting to try something new and if you'd be open to it that she'd like gonna surprise you one day and you'll just never know wow and this is the day so you're pre pre-prepared and you just gotta go with it because you love your wife and you want her happy right I feel like surprises are weird in that regard.

43:12Come on, Adam. Be open. The same way. Okay. Okay. So, for instance, me, her, and another girl is a lot less emotionally complicated than me, her, and another dude, right? I see. But I could never imagine just showing up with a girl. I'm like, surprise. Yeah. I brought a baddie home. Right. But maybe it's just. I feel like she needs to be prepared for that beforehand. yeah just for funsies yeah so what if she made you feel comfortable and like okay this is it i don't think so okay it's just not that's not the surprises like okay i you might have to like know my wife to know that she's a very neurotic uh detail oriented person like everything that we're gonna do like my schedule is mapped out weeks in advance as is hers there's like very little left to chance yeah for sure yeah okay well that's enough for the role play then okay okay give me your all right what's your role playing scenario that gets you excited that is completely outside of things you would actually do in real life um what's a role play that would get me excited yeah like i guess the one that i was storytelling right now okay so you wouldn't actually have a guy come over and then surprise your husband by you getting drilled by this dude yeah without absolute conversation so you would not do that but you kind of like the idea of it um yeah it's a role play right i mean it's role play but like in real life the same physical thing would be happening it would just be like not a total surprise versus you might be role-playing as it being a total surprise wait can you say that in layman's terms so the scenario i don't know it's okay we can just yeah i don't know i've never gotten into the whole like role-play concept it's fun yeah well give me an example of something you've done oh yeah okay so I guess now you've got me bashful I know you're only talking about the past you want to keep it all about right now so presently if I were to do a role play with my man once we got comfortable and we just wanted to get a little spicy and do something fun I guess the role play could be

45:52I'm like cleaning my house and I'm like in a bra and panties with my hair up and I hear a knock on my door and I'm like vacuuming and I don't know who it is and I open the door and it's like a delivery person and he's like super hot okay been working all day and he's got like a package for me you know and i could see some pecs some pecs yeah he's on trt or not what's trt testosterone replacement therapy i wouldn't know so he's kind of jacked up a little bit more yoked up than you need to be an amazon guy yeah okay just like you know fantasy and then i don't know we'll see so you i don't really know where to go from there but you start hooking up with him knowing that your man is going to be home well he has to like raise me up a little bit right okay have a little charm right like so hey i got this for you i saw your name on it just kind of like prolonging the conversation and i'm just like you know getting into the vibe and the charisma and then i'm just like you look like you need some water i don't know if i ever met a delivery guy with charisma like maybe some charisma but not like enough charisma to like hey why don't you come in why don't you bang my wife real quick i mean it's just role play right yeah yeah i guess as a woman i guess i get weighed down by like the the actual practical considerations right like in my head i'm like well i never met a delivery guy that seemed up for the job so what's your sign sagittarius i see yeah you didn't tell that um a slightly yeah i feel like it it says a lot about people what's your sign aquarius okay yeah i don't know anything about it what does this say about us um i think we're both free-spirited yeah i think that's what sagittarius and aquarius are open-minded free-spirited people okay i'll say that yeah yeah that works for me yeah feel feel open-minded yeah i can tell have you and i continue to talk after your conversation because like i feel like you guys actually seemed like you were gonna hook up really yeah by the end of that it's so funny because um we were getting a lot of uh comments saying like i feel like i was uh on a virtual date that's definitely what it felt like yeah i mean i think he's amazing i think he's super funny and he's his journalism was amazing i was really pleasantly surprised at his questions and his commentary and like i knew he would make me laugh and he made me laugh so much and yeah he's just really like outlandish and it's just funny yeah no he's a funny guy yeah because we talked about it we were both given sort of the people are probably assuming this but we were both given the same stipulations about how you wanted to guide the interview yeah so it's been going well though it's being received well and as far as would he have a chance or a date with me yeah maybe would he have to come out of pocket to go on a date with you like or is is it the kind of thing where he would be able to get by on just personality because he kept bringing up like the money aspect of it and i think like probably a lot of us a lot of people out there wonder like could i be a broke dude or at least like you know a guy with money who's not necessarily like coming out of pocket and be able to win somebody like you over oh i mean as i said to him i definitely um i like for a man to just go big and you know show me what they've got before you know right getting on a first date with me so whatever that means for them how is that kind of transaction facilitated like hey i'd like to take you on a day what's that cash oh that sort of thing no no no what what is it like hey i want to take you on a date and i'm gonna give you this necklace when i show up i mean i'm just because okay just from my perspective it's hard for me to tell how much the world has just changed since i got into a relationship but yeah i've been in a relationship for like 10 years and prior to that you know i was a pretty prolific sex haver but i was a regular guy yeah and i was regular girls and beyond like buying dinner yeah i just was not spending any kind of money to get laid or anything and you know now i feel like the conversation is constantly taking place in the public eye about the fact that you know guys who have money are kind of like you know it's almost like required for you to like be you I constantly see girls on podcasts or whatever saying, I couldn't be in a relationship with a guy unless he's paying my rent and he's doing this and this for me.

50:55And it's like that, I never even considered that throughout my whole time being single. So part of me wonders if that's just like high-end women who are expecting that kind of thing. And then part of me also is like maybe the world is just changing. It's just changed a lot over the last 10 years where women are kind of like realizing their value. Right. So I do agree with you that the dating world has changed in that sense. But I'm definitely still more old fashioned in the courting style. I definitely would like to have a man speak to me and get to know me. And, you know, we get to know each other first and then we can agree to go on a first date.

51:37and um on that first date you know it would be nice you know if he opens my door like you know pulls up in his best outfit smells good looks good and takes me to a nice restaurant and you know we just you know have nice conversation and get to know each other i could do all that yeah it's just when like the cash transactions right seem like they're kind of required in order to pull yeah a girl like i almost feel like if i were single that i would rather deal with like you know comparatively like mid girls who are not expecting some crazy transactions in order to win them over versus like be with like a super hot girl but i'm being expected to like constantly kind of break the bank yeah you know like that that to me is just very foreign like i want you to like me for me of course and that's why i bring up the courting and just having that i feel like it is a little bit disheartening that like people have i mean i don't know but people have kind of taken the the fun out of it you know i feel like the fun is the leading up to it's like foreplay you know you want to start from the toes to the legs to the knees to the kisses you don't want to have the whole shebang right there because then it just takes away like the the essence of the unity like the the passion and like the love that like the desire you know because as I'm speaking to somebody from across the table I I start to notice like their ears their eyes they're the way they speak and like their cadence like their hands like you know their muscles like then I start you know I can't really I although I don't disagree with some women who choose to just be like hey you know this is what it is um I prefer to have the the build-up for sure I like I like a build-up and then we just kind of see from there and nine out of ten times or maybe ten out of ten times um if there is like fireworks or sparks between me and my significant other then you know they definitely start to want me in their lives and and then that's when you basically force them to hand over a huge sums amount of money there's never any force i um okay like i never understood why a guy would want to get a hooker i see you know that just to me like the whole thing is like if i'm gonna enjoy having sex with someone i want them to like want to do that of their own volition right and so the idea that like you would pay for it was always just kind of and i get it like on a practical level i understand um i was probably a great time saver if you're a guy and you just really really really want to get laid and it's like you know going to the club or being on dating apps until you meet somebody who you end up having sex with like it's very time consuming i can understand how it's probably a lot easier to just pay for it but i just never got into that i feel like i would rather deprive myself of that until i found myself in a scenario where you wanted it and yeah where she actually just wanted to do it right yeah i love that yeah yeah but you're still gonna break the bank you're still gonna make that motherfucking pay huh i mean if they want to if they know it's good for them if they know i don't know maybe i feel like if i was back on the dating scene i would probably just have to adjust in some way i just have to figure it out yeah the more you get to know people the more the more you have to spend money on no the more you uh you kind of just know them you know yeah yeah you figure it out but so i don't know to what extent you're saying what you actually believe versus like saying what you know is going to be the most attractive to the men out there because like even even you when you're talking about like oh like little dicks are great i like little dicks you're telling act that i'm like i never said that you didn't no oh you did say you preferred bigger no i didn't say that either oh okay well that's smart as an only fans girl you don't really want to you don't want to alienate the tiny population i said it's all about the motion in the ocean yeah that's what they all say but no but and there's other things that we can do to pleasure ourselves it's not the end all it'd be all for me right but a micro is a micro yeah it's like it'd be hard to have fun with a micro i would assume i don't know i mean i feel like i've seen how hard it is to have a micro up close and personal because there was a dude one time we tried to do a a porn scene with this guy who was kind of like a i'll call him a comedian for lack of a better word yeah and he had a little curved on him oh no and we got a porn star that we knew to sleep with him on camera was he good elsewhere did he have a no he was just a little short motherfucker with a tiny curved and i was watching this girl who's like a friend of ours like riding that thing and it was slipping out and falling and it was just in that moment i really realized how much more difficult it is to get by with a three and a half incher.

57:03You gotta be clever. Yeah, this guy was not clever. He was actually drunk as fuck. Oh no. And off hella Viagra. It was kind of scary. Oh no, that sounds like a nightmare. Yeah, it wasn't good. I actually really, really felt bad for the girl. She didn't really talk to us for a little while after that. Oh no. I think she resented us setting her up with that scene. You gotta make it up to her now. Yeah, we're cool now. This was many years ago. She's like married and shit now. Aww. Send her like a fruit basket. A fruit basket. Yeah. be like hey just checking in hope you're well hope you're good after that uh that guy gave you really really really bad sex like seven years ago yeah yeah it's okay it's still weighing in your mind and your heart so maybe that'll make her feel better but i'm never sure hey i'm still thinking about when we made you that little dude wearing a wrestling singlet because he i guess he was a wrestler in high school he had all of his like high school like wrestling medals on and they're all clanging together yeah maybe that was his uh mojo it was disturbing like it's like you know he was trying to reconnect with like a better version of himself when he was like at his peak in high school maybe yeah you're a lot more conservative than i expected conservative how um just in your conversations what i feel like i'm saying a bunch of like really weird things i don't think anybody's watching this thing at all he's so conservative look at this guy no i'm just surprised i feel like i'm saying weird shit that like the average guy wouldn't say if anything i feel like you're a little conservative i am yeah yeah and so i'm surprised that in a good way that you are too a little bit you're definitely wholesome oh yeah thank you wholesome okay there's probably nobody at home was thinking that either but yeah yeah definitely you think you do you think your relationship with ak would go better than your relationship with me who do you think would be a better power couple you and him or you and me

58:59because i'm leaning towards you and him i felt like you guys had more chemistry i feel like he was because he was sort of like purely risen you up and like heaping praise upon you the whole time which i feel like that's your that's your love language whereas for me it's more like just telling weird random stories and like uh you know it's like i i could understand i feel like maybe your dynamic with him was a little bit more your style i mean you know i mean it's it's he's a single male he is you're married and his he didn't tell you about it but his most recent girl was a fucking monster oh no yeah she was abusive exposing him i won't even get into the details but it was oh my gosh he probably needs a good woman to sort of erase that memory right yeah are you shipping us i ship yes yeah i've never i don't think said that before my whole life but yes i ship that couple uh my wife actually wants to start watching love island and they say that on that right you watch that i don't watch it but it looks exciting i wish i had time to watch it i guess that that's like a thing that they do is like i ship the couples and you like decide who you ship or something i told her i'll watch it but she told me it's six days a week yeah and like an hour a day of content oh wow it's not too bad that sounds like an enormous amount of six days a week an hour a day of content well okay that's what they provide to the public so oh i see it's actually you know like six hours a week of content i mean it just seems like a lot would you guys go on love island uh i've never watched it so i don't really know what would be involved right that could be kind of spicy you've seen it not really but it's the architect of it is singles and yeah and everybody trying to figure out like you should do one where it's like a married couple is trying to find their unicorn that doesn't sound good we actually did like the inverse of that where we did a reality show uh where we were hunting to find the guy who would be our first boy boy girl threesome you were hunting to find a guy that would be your first boy boy girl threesome so the the other guy with me her me and her oh i see okay and so we did that And we had like 12 candidates, so we narrowed it down.

1:01:18Really? So we did sort of do something like that. And people ask a lot, like. How do you pick? Or do you guys both pick mutually or does she pick? You know, it's reality TV, so it's kind of on one hand. We had a lot of like funny characters on it. Yeah. But then we had other dudes who were like professional porn star guys who realistically we probably weren't going to pick. somebody who was just funny we're gonna pick somebody who could actually do the job right right exactly so um you said you do content where it's you her and another man or sometimes you another woman yeah and uh which one is your preference uh for sure i like doing the scenes with other dudes but for sure probably more enjoyable for it to just be two women although like two women is kind of i've done it so many times that it's just you know really it's like in one ear out the other i like forget about it afterwards and i'll like see the clips on twitter when the scene comes out and i'll be like oh yeah right remember that but uh when it's with another guy it's kind of higher stakes it's a little bit more intense you know it's like just kind of definitely more uh mental yeah it's a little bit more of a struggle but i mean not a struggle but i you know the the girl thing is just easy yeah whereas the guy it's kind of like you know you you and this random guy that you barely know have to work together yeah to this girl right i mean imagine two dudes having to like time their loads you know it's like you go your whole life not jerking off with another dude and then all of a sudden you're like jerking off with another dude at the same time so you can hopefully come on the girl's face at like the same time i mean that's it's weird it's definitely not something i really like pictured myself doing when i was a kid you know yeah for sure but oh my gosh i never thought of it from that perspective that's more like not challenging but there's more elements to to getting the perfect moment and shot and yeah yeah so how do you stay like so aroused you know you just got to be a freak really right yeah for sure some of these guys do different things to stay in the zone but i'm more of a natural performer yeah have you ever i don't know where that question was gonna go have you ever you're gonna ask have i ever used erectile dysfunction medication to enhance the experience sure yeah yeah around the honey packs and the really the rhinos and whatnot yeah i never really went to like the full viagra cialis or anything i feel like that that might be a little too much right but there's definitely something to be said for those yeah i think it's good for the woman that's nice oh the women do it too No, I think it's good that you do that for the woman also.

1:04:17It's, you know. I only do it when I have to shoot like multiple times in a day. Right. Yeah. But it, yeah, that's good. You're giving it your all. Yeah. Yeah. I was actually having a weirdly similar conversation about this with Michael Blackson earlier. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, and? Probably rather have it with you. Okay. Yeah. Let's talk about it. He's like an older African man. Okay. You know, which is cool. But you'd rather talk to me about it? I'd probably rather talk about my penis with you, yeah. Okay, cool. Do you have other media appearances scheduled? Possibly, yes. I told my boy DJ Vlad that I would encourage you to go see him as well.

1:04:56Oh, really? Yeah. I'm getting my feet wet a little. I feel like, you know, my thing is since I'm a topic of conversation in the moment that I would join in on the conversation a little bit. Right. And just kind of have a little fun with it. Well, I will probably ease some of your fears and let you know that Ak is proudly Jamaican enough that he doesn't eat pussy. Oh. Yeah, I'm kind of on the other end of the spectrum where I'm very much appreciative of that. Oh, wow. Oh, yeah. That's great. I mean, I don't feel like you're not really taking advantage of the situation enough unless you get your face in it.

1:05:35Right. you're not really taking advantage of the essence of a woman if you're not making her squirt and firing off down there you know i mean if if me and you are hooking up and i don't uh you know taste the the groceries yeah and i'm not just talking to i gotta eat the ass too for sure wow is that foreign to you or that's just regular um you know it's it's it's happened and I definitely have experience with it, but I feel like it's more of a pleasurable thing for the man. I'm still, I like the freak aspect of it because it's like, yeah, put your face in there. Yeah, get in there, yeah. You dirty animal.

1:06:19Get in there, yeah. Yeah, get in there. And I like that they're so freaky with it and everything, but to actually derive absolute pleasure from it, I don't think I've gotten to that climactic point, if that makes sense. it's more just like a freak nasty moment that's happening and it's like, and then I'm into it and we're into it. And you're eating dudes asses as well. I would assume. No, no, you've never done that. No, I'm more of a, uh, yeah, I'm definitely more of a please me, but let me please you. Let me be a little bit more dominant and sometimes submissive, but always really sexy. So what if the guy, there's a guy you really like, everything's going great.

1:06:59And then you kind of realize at some point that that's like one of his biggest fantasies is he wants you to eat his ass right um is that a deal breaker are you gonna be able to adjust to that or um a tiny bit for the record i don't care that yeah i want to eat the girl's ass i don't i'm very the girly in my house is like i could take it or leave it okay that's good yeah it's not really yeah actually i think if a guy's really into it that comes off it's kind of zesty to me that's what i was yeah but i didn't want to yeah okay right you get me you You never put your finger in there? No. Damn. Yeah.

1:07:34Because then I would kind of look at the situation a little differently. You'd be thinking he's a fruitcake. I'd be like, maybe I should ship you over to. Some other woman? Or, I don't know. Or just a dude. Maybe this isn't the right lane. Right. So you never. What if a guy wanted to get pegged? You know what's interesting? is I actually have some girlfriends that I know have done that. And I didn't really dive into it too much. Some women really like it to be more in a dominant position, and they have their own joy out of it. I could see them being dominant and taking over and why that would turn them on.

1:08:26Another girl, she was just doing it because she just, you know, was getting through it whatever got paid no just that was just what her man he wanted to do it yeah yeah i have no interest in that but i also i will i will die on this hill that i don't think it's gay if you're into that as a guy for sure i think it's possible for a straight dude to want to have a girl do that right so do you think that if a straight man wants that that they're actually the other way no i don't think so i think that again listen i asked chat gbt about this because just wanted to make sure but um yeah like your sexuality is defined by who you're attracted to not like what part of your body you're deriving sexual pleasure from right because that could be their most arousal part of their body well allegedly there's a g-spot in there that feels great so i haven't really experimented without myself once i'm a doctor jammed his fingers on my ass oh yeah and i was that uh well it was because he needed to stimulate my prostate because he thought that i might have an infection like i was uh dealing with something i forget exactly what it was at the time but he wanted to see if i had a prostate infection basically and the way that they would figure that out is basically puts on a glove bow just jams it in there and then a tiny trickle of sperm came out of my penis head and he needed to test that oh right so that's how it kind of first yeah i don't know so was it a tiny bit orgasmic i wouldn't say it felt good in any way but it created but it created enough kill it which i don't know why i couldn't just beat off but yeah i think it's probably specific to that i guess yeah he didn't really give me a lot of warning either right you just kind of did it did it does it make you question your sexuality this moment i'm just kidding i've had multiple colonoscopies too so okay yeah i'll be getting torn up down there from time to time so but only in a medical setting guys yeah yeah right yeah disclaimer disclaimer only the medical situation right so you could see how it could be a thing for some men oh yeah i mean i don't judge guys who are into that i mean i know dudes who are like ostensibly straight guys who do porn where girls peg them with strap-ons or whatever and right i'm not gonna lie it's like kind of challenging for me to know that about them just because yeah i very much grew up in a culture where that was not really a thing yeah it's kind of frowned upon but uh you know i definitely don't think it makes you gay or anything yeah for sure yeah even though i'm really like deep down inside i do think it makes you gay but then like but the more like woke self-aware version of myself is like no that's not gay your biology is like okay that doesn't make you that way but maybe your beliefs are like no man you're you like you like it there you are you grow you get woke right you believe that you know things are not gay and then like but deep down inside you're like that she's gay as fuck but you know whatever um you said it um okay uh i feel like i hit like all my questions basically oh okay what's your uh your turn up your ideal turn up like if you were gonna spend a night with the guy okay are you drinking are you smoking are you taking any sort of you know pill or anything like what would be your ideal uh blend right to carry you through a night if the plan was like let's just have a real freaky night right so after we've gone on our first date gotten to know each other once you're in that place yeah so second date maybe um and let's say i don't know or if we're already on vacation or something we're having wine wine wine wine okay so wine and when we're just having like lots of good conversations sloppy kisses lots of intense gripping you know neck gripping body gripping all of that um yeah wine for sure without a doubt okay yeah wine and wine and really good music good music like what um king gone like party next door okay like toxic music well like sade at first and then we can like turn it up you want to know what yeah i had a weird experience the other day where i all of a sudden felt like i needed to have more of an encyclopedic knowledge of r &b because my wife and i you know we're like in the scenario at the end of the day where it feels like we're about to hook up but we're laughing a lot we're like fucking around with each other we're joking with each other we're tickling each other i love it but it's like it was kind of like it felt hard to like get out of like this jokey mode that we're in into the sexual mode right right and so i said okay boom i because we a lot of times we don't put on music when we sleep together you know but so i grabbed the remote and i just you know the first thing that popped into my brain when i started thinking r &b because i'm like a total casual when it comes to r &b i was like boom jodeci oh my god yeah good for you and then we started watching some like jodeci music videos and i'm not gonna lie i came off like a little too corny it didn't it didn't take away you know we're trying to like kind of move past the like giggly jokey part of our night yeah and it really felt like jodeci was like making us laugh more i could see you know it's like these music videos from the 90s and the guys got the flowing shirts in there yeah you know it just felt it felt more funny than sexy you like like house music i listened to primarily like hip-hop and rock i guess okay okay but you know and then i searched on youtube i searched like sex playlist okay and what came up and i i don't even know just some sort of like generic rmb type music that i i just know so little about that genre yeah but i hear you i know what you mean the playlist is so important and during sex it can either like make or break the situation yeah um for me i listen to the music for sure i like to start off with slow dancing and right if you and i were to um ever sleep together god forbid um this this is actually like what i would listen to okay but i don't necessarily like know that you would be able to agree with it