Deshawn Raw on Supa Hot Fire, Deleting his Channel, Gypsy Crusader, Chris Rock Beef & More

48:18And if you're just a random person, then whatever. But it's like, if we're really friends, then what is so hard about passing on a little bit of knowledge? Exactly. Like, that shit should be dripping. Yeah. Chris Rock should be able to sit there with you for 20 minutes and give you so much game about staying up. And make me way better. Yeah. Have a 20-minute conversation or watch me do a set and make me way better. But it's like, when the YouTube thing, like, as far as skits go, I was like an All-American with skits. So it's like, that's like, let's say you're a number one prospect in football, right?

48:45And then LeBron is your friend. And you're like, hey, you know, I know I'm the number one prospect in football, but I really want to play basketball. And LeBron's like, nah. It's like, damn, you kind of hating because you already see I'm good at this sport. So why would you not help me? All I do is take all this athleticism and bring it over here. You know what I mean? That's kind of weird. You know what I mean? Niggas be protecting them records. That's all I'm saying. But I bought my first stand-up show. but I moved to New York with my homie Jay Snow, Jay Snow Pro. We was in New York for a year.

49:14We was doing stand-up. That's like the college of stand-up. You can go to like seven, eight different comedy clubs in one night. Italian club, black club, white club, Puerto Rican club, all in like three blocks of each other. That's New York for you. So I went to New York. I got better. I did college shows. I've been booked out for shows. So I was bombing for years when it came to stand-up comedy. But then I did a show in like 2016 in Ontario Improv where the tide kind of turned. I got better. And so now I'm doing a stand-up show with my boy Tevin Scott, April 3rd in Hollywood. So you can see for yourself, you know, it's a free show, April 3rd.

49:52I want to go. Is that the Broadwater second stage? Broadwater second stage, yeah. Good Friday. Yep, Good Friday. It's April 3rd. So I'm back doing stand-up. Me and my boy Tevin Scott going to kill it. But yeah, I got season. You know, I moved to New York. um i've done more shows um i've been to hundreds of hundreds of open mics so when i deleted my youtube video and i did the ontario improv show i didn't go to open mics like i'm just like i'm funny but after i bombed a few times i started going to hella open mics i mean chatterbox in riverside i mean west field comedy club i mean ice box ice house like bro i was in from open mics to shows so i've done so much stand-up comedy and is it weird because you had such a recognizable face.

50:38Hell yeah! And you're performing, I assume, next to all these people who are basically entry-level aspiring comedians, and then meanwhile you come out and even if they're not huge fans, people are like, that's that motherfucker. The thing about stand-up comedy, it's a real hating culture. True, yeah. They're hate. So you go to an open mic, let's say there's 15 comedians in there. Nobody will laugh at the funny comedian. At an open mic, if there's 15 comedians and one of them goes on stage and they're just killing it the other 14 people in the crowd don't laugh like it's very bro it's some hating ass shit like bro if you go to open mic and you're funny after the mic all the comedians are like you're funny you're so funny bro you're gonna make it i can't wait to see your next show like bro the open the open mic scene and the comedy scene is a real hating dog eat dog real oh we can't give you stage time oh what have you done oh i've been hosting this mic for five years oh yeah it's gay it's very gay so it is very hard to move up and stand up comedy you know what i mean it's not like basketball where you have your high school rankings or you have boxing you have your rankings or you have your like no bro it's like you could be hilarious and everybody could be hating on you because in basketball it's like you just are as good as you are and there's like a very easy way to like measure scoreboard yeah whereas like with comedy it's in the eye of the beholder and it's even if you're really really good it takes years and years and years of putting yourself out there years it's hard i mean and then you could be a stand-up comedian and just get courtesy laughs the whole time and then you could be a stand-up comedian and say funny ass shit and then people act like it's not funny but yeah it was really weird signing up on open mic says Deshaun Raw.

52:25Yeah, it was weird as f***. How was your mental health throughout all this? Were you in a good state with the drugs like really in the rear view at this point? The thing about the drugs that I did, it takes a few years to get off of them. I did some very hard, heavy drugs. So let's say if you stop doing a drug, it's going to be like two years before you're like back to normal. Yeah, okay. You're saying that about Coke or other stuff? other stuff meth yeah really okay yeah so i was doing some hard shit brother and um so it it took like two years to be like oh okay i'm sober like even if i stopped doing that shit years ago it's like okay now i actually feel like me again but um my mental state was it was pretty good you know when i deleted my channel i was like everybody everything in Hollywood and I was happy you know you know I was living with my grandma uh and then when I came back to doing what I was doing you know it was nothing but friends and family around me and people who supported me and so my mental health was really good you know my mental health was was really good I don't I don't I don't really know where it was suffering the worst it was was before I deleted my video that's why I deleted my videos I'm like bro it was the learning curve was too steep like bro I'm coming out of community college next thing you know I'm I'm at Viacom I'm dealing with this.

53:46I'm dealing with this. I'm dealing with this. It's tough to be like the first one through the door too. Because nowadays, like if I knew some dude and he blew up on YouTube or streaming or whatever, I could sit him down for a half hour and just tell him the whole game plan. Like, this is what you should do. You should focus on this. You should focus on your relationships. You should do as many collabs as possible. You make money through this and this and this. And like, you know, it's like it's well-worn paths towards success. Whereas for you, what even is it to be successful? Like, you know, it's like, you know, when the TV deal doesn't work out, it's like, well, should I even be proud to be a YouTuber?

54:25Because you don't really know. There's nobody else who's really like laid this out for you, right? Now you could be proud to be a YouTuber. Yeah. Now people are. Now people are. These people. Yeah. If you get a million views a video, you're a fucking. Yeah. You're the man. But in 2012, when my show didn't get picked up, yeah, I was sick because I'm like, damn, I just did all this work. I just did all these skits and Chris Rock told me to my face. He was like, bro You have done more work on your channel than I did my whole career at SNL He's like, bro, you got like 50 skits out three minutes off money all cuz he's like, bro You people don't know how much work I put into it unless you're a comedian yourself So he's like, bro, you can worked hard And so when the show didn't get picked up, I'm just like damn so I just go back to YouTube like damn so i'm not getting on tv but that was before the whole core cutting thing went crazy that's before netflix was big netflix got big like a few years later so it was just like damn bro i don't want to just be back on youtube now i'm happy with youtube i love youtube i'm transferring to instagram and i like the internet you know do you have a lot of regrets over the years about deleting all your content was that something that would kind of weigh on you or did you overall feel like it was still something you had to do nah i didn't have any regrets about deleting my content i mean when i deleted my content my family was like what the f are you doing yeah and everybody around was like what the f are you doing everybody's like oh he's on drugs he's crazy which i was doing a little drugs but i was clearing the head when i deleted it like i knew why but um no i didn't regret it i needed everybody i just needed space you know i needed i needed space but i have people living with me i have multiple people living with me not paying any rent bro i was in like a six bedroom house, multiple people living with me, not paying rent.

56:05Bro, I just tell the homie, I'm like, hey, bro, can you be home at 2 p.m.? I got the maid coming. Just be home at 2 p.m. The maid's coming. It's 2.30, the maid calling me. Nobody's home. Nigga, where are you at? The maid's there. Oh, my bad. I'm smoking up the street. What the f***? Nigga, you can't be home for the maid? You don't pay no bills and you miss the maid? Yeah, bro. Time to delete. Time to go. Mind you, let me tell you this story. I'm at a motherf***er Party and this one girl is like, are you Deshaun Raw? I'm like, yeah. She looks over at my friend and says, is he Deshaun Raw? My friend says, yeah.

56:43She's like, all right. She goes. We go to the back. She sucks my dick. Just like that. Bro, she wasn't even sure I was me. She had to ask somebody else. Bro, that's not good. These hoes. That's not a good thing. So that means that somebody would have walked in that bitch like, hey, I'm Deshaun Raw. They all got some Deshaun Raw. But let me tell you the worst thing about that shit. Bro, that shit still that plays in my mind. Like, damn, she had to ask around because I guess they're talking about Deshaun Raw at the party before I get there. But she doesn't see me. She never seen my bitch. They're just talking about me before I get there.

57:17Oh, yo, he's next up. He's about to blow up. So I'm just like, yo, she finds out who that is, does this. And I'm just like, yo, that's kind of sick. I'm kind of like I'm kind of like in the belly of the beast I'm kind of around some real demonic ass shit like honestly so you know when stuff like that is happening and friends not being there for the maid and all types of shit like bro I can go on it's like oh no it's time to delete this shit it's time to go it's time to bow out y 'all this is too much in recent memory the only person that comes to mind that I can kind of compare to you is Jideon Were you watching Gideon for a while there?

57:57Yeah, of course. Of course I watched Gideon. But his was more of like a religious transformation where I think that he started to feel like his religious beliefs, like he got more serious about Christianity and he felt like it didn't align with the pranks and the, I mean, I think he, well, he's still doing the foul catching shit. But like for a while, I think he felt like the pranks just weren't godly. So he kind of did what you did. Yeah, but I don't know, man. their foul catching shit is weird it's weird I give it to y 'all for catching stuff out but something about this is sinister something about these foul catchers is just I'm happy with y 'all doing but it's just like I don't know do you feel what I'm talking about?

58:41it kind of fucks it up for you when you read stories about people doing it to people who are like probably not actually guilty that makes it kind of hard for you to watch it going forward with the same assumption you know you watch it with the assumption that everybody that they're catching is a really really bad guy but i like heard one story about some dudes who are in college or some shit and they did it to like a 19 year old dude who was like hanging out with like an 18 year old girl or something and they beat the out of them and i was just like damn that really kind of made it not feel the same yeah but tally be doing humiliation rituals with them the shit out of them and throwing a pie broke somebody's phone they're throwing a pie in the guy's face you're Like, ah, this feels like it's kind of strayed from what it was supposed to be in the Chris Hansen era.

59:27Yeah, like, where is the girl? Protect the girl. All right, we got this better file. Now we're going to walk them around on a leash to the mall. Wait, nigga, nobody asked for that. Nobody asked for that part. Like, who said this is what we do next? That's not the next step, my brother. But there are, like, you know, I watched a Tommy G video the other day, like, where he, like, followed a dude around who was doing it. And it's like, they are providing a very important service to society. The people who do it the right way. Yeah. There's clearly people doing it more for entertainment. Yeah. I mean, I had the jitty on ARC where it was just like, yeah, this is not sitting right with me.

1:00:00So I backed out and I went to stand up and was bombing for years. Then eventually got seasoned. And then, you know, me and Tevin got our show. You know, my shows are funny, man. They're really funny. They really got good. So I just can't wait. I just can't wait to get back out there. And in 2025, I boxed. I did brand results in 2025. So that was your first year boxing was 2025? No, no, no. See, what happened? Because you said you started training in 2016, right? No, I started training, yes, in 2016, 2016, 2015. So once I deleted my videos. And once I started doing stand-up and started bombing, I was like, oh, I'm going to have to fight for money.

1:00:41So I was like, oh, shit, because I didn't want to get a job. So I'm like, all right, let me box. So I started boxing in like 2015 because I'm like, no channel. I'm not seizing that stand-up yet. So I'm like, man, let me box. I felt like this was a way, like 2015. I'm like, I feel like as an entertainment, I feel like boxing is like the next, like a stream, you know, like the Jake Paul. He's like one of the biggest boxers in the world now. But I seen that a little early. I'm like, man, well, boxing is a stream of income that you can take and make money and, you know, just, you know, just from fighting.

1:01:13But you weren't thinking like, hey, maybe I'm just going to try to make a YouTube video, a couple of YouTube videos a week or whatever. Like, because I'm sure if you really took it serious at that time, you could have kept doing it. Right. No, I wasn't. No, I was just going to box. I was going to fight for it. I was going to fight for money. I was like, fuck it. I'll just fight for money. and then I went to gym and was getting beat up for a while and then I went back to stand up. See, that's how I went back to stand up because I went to the gym and I kept getting beat up, kept getting beat up, kept getting beat up.

1:01:43I said, you know what, I think it's time to go to New York and learn stand up for real because I'm like, the gym is whipping my ass. So then I started really working on my stand up. But stand up is so objective and fighting is not objective at all. Stand up is harder than fighting. I promise you, a stand up comedy is harder than a boxing match. I promise you. Had you ever been like a tough guy throughout your life or had you no no no i've never been a tough guy but i always felt like i was good at fighting you know i would win certain fights and um um when we box you know i did pretty well so i i thought like i was a great fighter you know what i mean and then i went to a boxing gym and got in there with pros and i'm like i learned oh i'm a baby yeah like i am a toddler when it comes to this but i've kept training so i was going back and forth between stand up and boxing stand up and boxing stand up and boxing and then um now um brand risk people keep having me as an underdog but they don't know that i've been boxing since 2015 16 10 years now so i've been boxing for a long time because i thought for one moment like this is i'm gonna make money boxing and how'd you actually start fighting on brand risk you reached out to aiden or he knew that you were fighting somehow well i got reached out to by aiden's people a few times to like do a stream like a few years before brand risk and they're like hey you want to come do the stream or hey you want to come hop on this call with aiden and social boy or something or can you do something real quick and i always say no only because it was kind of like wasn't paid but i knew brand risk pay like it doesn't matter low medium high like i'd rather do something that's paid that's not paid so they hit me a few times to be on it and i was like no i'm all right and then they was like do you want to be on brand risk and i was like yep that comes with a check so I signed up and then I fought their quote-unquote best guy scam likely like it was their first fight yeah I picked him because they was like do you want to be on burn wrist I say yeah I want the best you guys scam likely only thing is he fucking weighs 40 pounds less than me so that was stupid so I had to lose all this fucking weight so I went in the ring like dehydrated drain so I could never have a harder fight than that because I was so dehydrated like Le 'Veon Bell GFC Crusader all easier because I was so fucking dehydrated when I fought Scam Likely me fighting Scam Likely is like Canelo going down to fight anyway anyway we'll fuck Canelo up if Canelo has to lose 50 pounds so I'm just like he wasn't my weight class we all like underrate the fact that when you watch a boxing match or a UFC fight that in many cases they had to dehydrate themselves for like weeks in order to make weight yeah like Ryan with a tank yeah you know And Shakira's trying to get Ryan to do that again, and Ryan refuses to.

1:04:23He's like, no, you fight me at 147 or nothing. But, yeah, so they hit me. I was like, yeah, let me get the best guy. Boom, did that. Fought Chain Snatcher, fought Ant, fought Le 'Veon, fought Gipschitz. So it's going good. It's going good. All my fights have been – I've been a massive underdog. I do way better than people expect. Would you say that when you got into this environment that you knew it was going to be part of your fight style that you were going to kind of troll in the ring. Because you do do, in almost every fight of yours I've seen, there's some funny shit. Like, you know, you fall back on the ring, on the ropes, and you're, like, pretending to sleep for a second.

1:05:00Or this one is going to look super gay when I do it. You're going, ah. Like, what is that? Like, just doing, ah. Like, in the middle of the fight, it's so crazy. All right. Let me explain the trolling. Okay, so I fought Le 'Veon Bell, right? so the first round I realized there was nothing I could do with him I'm like oh shit there's nothing I could do with this guy so I was just trolling cause he's just big and strong I couldn't hit him so I'm like I'm just gonna troll so the whole first round I'm just trolling Le 'Veon the second round I do well the third round I think I slipped but they call it a knockdown but Le 'Veon came out and the motherfucker was punching me from so far away like Le 'Veon Bell would be back here boom he punched me I'm at the camera I'm like god damn he got reach So I'm like, oh shit, all I can't do is troll.

1:05:47Because at least if I troll, then people on the outside of the ring would be like, oh man, he's having fun in there. No, I'm not. This shit is dangerous. Or even when I watched you with the Chain Snatcher, Stephen Joe, that was another one where you were just kind of like messing with him a lot. You had like a real goofy style, keeping your arms down, and it almost seemed like you weren't taking it that serious. Well, no, because the Chain Snatcher, great friend of mine, just started boxing that month. So call back to I've been to boxing gyms and I know what it's like to be one month in. You're terrible.

1:06:23When you fall Jason Love, as good as you train, as good as you do, bro, you need so much time and experience, bro. You need way much more. So it's like, it doesn't matter. You can have all the confidence in the world. There's shit you just don't know in the boxing ring. There's punches, there's moves, there's angles, there's distancing. there is timing there is setting things up there's so much so i'm like bro if this guy just started boxing this month and i've been boxing for 10 years there's nothing there's nothing there's nothing he can do you know what i mean it's just like someone who's been playing basketball all month and someone just picked up a ball this week yeah bro it's about to be 100 to zero i mean a lot of people who box go very out of their way especially if they're a public figure to like pick fights that they think that they have a good chance of winning but like you've got a bunch of fights with the levion bell one the gypsy crusader one where it's like these are dudes who like physically just look way crazier than you and the betting odds were like obviously in their favor like what what is that you just you're fearless you just don't give a f**k you'll get in there and fight anyone i like a challenge you know you know you go to jail you gotta fight the biggest dude i've heard yeah that's what that's what it is it's like who's the biggest dude on this roster You know what I mean?

1:07:37That's just how I'm coming. But honestly, Brand Risk, they exploit that heavyweight division, man. Because once you're 190, it's 190 and up. So once you're 190, you can fight somebody 300 pounds. And Brand Risk is like, hey, you over 190. We got somebody for you. Hence, Blueface at like 210 fighting a dude who was like 275 or whatever. 300. Was he really? Man, Chibu about 3 '3". Yeah. Man, Chibu was leaning on him a lot. So I'm like, yeah, so I'm going down. Yeah, like all that, fighting the big guys. I talked to Le 'Veon Bell. He was like, man, why you keep fighting us? Stop fighting big guys.

1:08:16I was like, you right, Le 'Veon. Le 'Veon is talking. I'm like, you right, Le 'Veon. Have you tried to lose weight, or is that just not been something you didn't even give a shit about? You know I have, but food is good. Food is good. You know what I mean? Like, I would way rather go train boxing every day than have to diet and eat a calorie deficit. That shit sucks. I know, bro. In and out. Wiener, schnitzel. I be having home cooked meals. Bro, I'm a grown man, bro. I'm 35. I like to eat. I'm not about to like... These guys who be on Stargivation diets, I can't do it. But when I seen Gypsy Crusader step over the rope, it was like, okay, I need to get out this division.

1:08:58He stepped over the rope like the Undertaker. I'm like, you know what? I'm going down. I'm trying to lose as much weight as I can, but it's hard you know i'd be smoking you get the munchies you drink alcohol alcohol doesn't burn yeah you fat like i'm off i'm off the hennie right now really oh that's amazing yeah you feel me the harsh reality too is that it's like okay if you're dieting your calorie deficit should be like four or five hundred calories per day like you're not really supposed to go too far above that four or five hundred calories is like two spoonfuls of peanut butter yeah and peanut and you shouldn't have peanut butter because that's that's the wrong thing that's heavy yeah it weighs on you like the cup of ranch that they give you to go with your salad or your burger or whatever is like probably like 400 calories three you know it's like it's just you got to cut out all these things if you want to lose weight like maintaining weight is one thing but like to lose weight is it's yeah you better off fasting man my dumb ass was eating a peanut butter banana smoothie every day thinking i'm doing something i'm gaining weight yeah i'm gaining anyway.

1:10:01All I'm doing is drinking my smoothies. And they're like, oh no, peanut butter is bad for you. But now it's bad for you. I'm like, damn, what the fuck y 'all just want me to eat? Cherries? Berries? What the? Koala bear food? I can't do it. But no, man, my fights are always exciting. They're always entertaining because I'm always a huge underdog. I'm always fighting someone 30 pounds, 40 pounds bigger than me. They're always good fights. So I'm the underdog, right? But I don't get crushed. You know what I mean? I might lose on scorecard, but I never feel like I lost. and I think they're the most entertaining fights because they're not close.

1:10:33Like every other fighter like closer eyes is like bro Le 'Veon should have knocked me out. Gypsy Crusader should have knocked me out. Brand Rich had this guy on there named Ant. He was 7-0, 8-0 right? No one ever made it to the final bell with him. He was stopping everybody. I beat him. I think that might be the only fight of yours that I didn't see. I think I've seen all the other ones. He's really really good boxer but he was undefeated on Brand Rich and then the scam likely I want to get a rematch if he comes up and wait but you know if not you know there's there's so many people out there to fight but i would like him to come up and wait and get a rematch but yeah so i was boxing all 2025 but now 2026 i'm more i'm pushing it to stand up you know i'm gonna have this show next week april 3rd a broad water and i got multiple shows coming up after that like 2026 is my stand-up year do you think that you can manage both at the same time because that was one thing with me training for the boxing match granted it was only like three weeks maybe that i was training but it was like i i felt like you know i'm just like not podcasting anywhere near my ability because i'm so tired and exhausted from training no you can't you can't do both it's impossible so you doing anything outside of boxing is is terrible you need 110 to go into it so it's like let's say i i got this show we got this show next week me and tevin um i do this show and then let's say I got a fight in May.

1:11:54I got to drop everything to work on that fight. Then after the fight, I could focus on stand-up. Then after that show, I can focus on the fight. But you cannot split your time. There's no way. There's no way. It's literally impossible. If you split your time, you're going to lose in a boxing ring and your podcast is not going to be that good. So they both suffer. Yeah. When you're in the few weeks lead up to the fight, how many hours a day are you training? Well, it's a 24-7 thing. Really? Oh, shit. But it's like. I was only doing like an hour or two a day and it still felt like hell I mean I mean it's a 21st hour thing as far as you wake up you stretch you train you come back you ice bath heat bath you stretch again you might watch you gotta watch film boxing tapes were you watching boxing I was watching some stuff okay once I got in there I really didn't feel like it made that much of a difference because I'm watching like elite fighters and like when I actually get in there it just felt like like that was kind of when i first got hit i was sort of flashed in my head of like oh this is nothing like the footage that you're watching these really good fighters like this is just completely unrelated to that you're just getting punched by a big now yeah no but hats off to you because a lot of people's like adam didn't throw a punch adam didn't throw a punch bro you got in there you got in the ring you tried bro jason love is big as he's strong as fuck, he probably hits hard as fuck.

1:13:17So I'm just like, bro, everyone was like, oh, he didn't throw a punch, he didn't throw a punch. Okay, have them sign up to Brand Race. I wish I had thrown two punches, because then at least people would be able to give me more credit of like, well, you got in there. Whenever people try to give me credit of like, oh, you got in there, people are like, well, he didn't throw a punch. And it's like, well, okay. I kind of got smothered there. I didn't really feel like I had too many openings to throw a punch. But if I had just thrown one punch, I'd be able to put that on my highlight reel. But you know that was his point.

1:13:45I'm punching the highlight reel. No, that's, bro, I've never seen a two-second highlight reel. It's like highlight reel. Want to watch it again? Many more, many more. Want to watch it again? Fill out the highlight reel. Yeah, you're watching a highlight reel 30 times in 30 seconds. I almost feel like I need to get like a street fight in just to like overshadow that. No, see, Jason Love whole thing was to get you out early. He said it. He said, oh, they talked about my cardio. So I tried it. So his whole plan was to knock you out from the beginning. And because I was trolling when they were doing the interviews.

1:14:13and I'm saying like my cardio is amazing I'm planning on outworking him blah blah blah I'm just totally lying like my cardio sucks and I'm just saying that but he's sitting there at home watching it thinking like oh his cardio is really good so my game plan needs to be I need to get him out the paint real quick which he did my cardio was very much irrelevant really kind of makes me wonder what I was doing all that running for but shadow boxing you got a shadow box I was doing that a little bit doesn't seem like it mattered too much anyone who has anything to say about your performance yeah simply put them on brain wrist.

1:14:44Yeah. And let's see how they do. My whole thing too is that I just like, I'm not a boxer. I just, they offered me a bunch of money. I was like, you know, it's gonna be super viral. I gotta do this. Yeah. And I gotta defend you. I gotta defend you, Jason. I mean, Adam, I gotta defend you, Adam, because I see a lot of people talking bad about you. But with the whole Jason Love situation, you and your wife have had a hundred threesomes, right? Probably 500. Okay. Like a crazy amount. So here's my thing. If my wife came to me and was like, hey, I'll let you have 100 threesomes with me. But I'll be like, yep, I accept.

1:15:22I don't even got to hear the but. I don't even got to hear what she's about to say next. Like, hey, me, you can have 100 threesomes. Only if so. I don't care what you do, when you do, how you do it. 100 threesomes. My man, you done had 100 threesomes off camera. Not including the ones on camera. So I'm just like, bro, you know what? You can't complain. But, you know, I've seen Vlad bringing up that exact thing to people being like, yo, like, would you if your wife gave you 100 threesomes, would you let her another guy? And everyone. No, absolutely not. So that makes me realize I'm wired a little different than a lot of other people, because for sure, that's a good trade.

1:16:02If you ask me, I think for so many people, the idea that your girl having a insider for even a moment, like most guys freak out. out all the time for people looking at their girl or talking to her. Yeah, but they girls not virgins. Them same guys, girls, they didn't take their virginity. What are they talking about? In the red pill world, they're kind of like, oh, a girl needs to be a virgin if you're going to marry or close to a virgin. If she's got six bodies, she's done. Okay, let's say she's a virgin. Your girl a virgin, you're the only one who has sex with her. You can't stop her imagination.

1:16:34So it's just like, no, brother, all them people say, oh, I wouldn't do this. I don't care what 100 threesomes listen brother you got me at 12 yeah 12 threesomes do what you need to do i feel like do what you need to do i feel like i i don't want to be with a girl who hasn't like dating wise i i can't date you unless you've at least 20 dudes okay you need i don't want to be the only person that you know about doing this like i need you to have some some miles on you that makes sense because they know they really like you they enjoy you and and the thing with you bro it's like a lot of these people's girls are for everybody you know what i mean they're going they're loose like bro your girl is down for you she rocks with you she gets permission from you you know what i mean y 'all are locked in you know what i mean y 'all are locked in so it's like bro niggas girls out here cheating yeah for nothing it's funny because like i read comments every day that are like oh like you know your girl doesn't love you your girl don't give a fuck this is a fake relationship it's like well why am I going home and snuggling in bed and doing the fucking laundry and taking care of this kid and all like I actually if you take the porn thing out of it we have the most regular ass relationship like two people that have been together for 10 years and you own a house together and you're married like you know it's really like yeah we're just kind of like putting on a theater thing for people you know and then everybody's like oh Lena this Lena that Lena that's like no Lena asks Adam Lena gets permission from Adam Lena gonna let Adam have a hundred threesomes first of all nobody's girlfriend's even letting him do that so I don't even know why they even get that question oh would you leave your girlfriend the girlfriend's not letting him yeah the girlfriend is not letting him they sneaking they got two phones yeah I mean they got a burner Instagram account they in trouble on phone yeah me and my girl found out like bro they are they are stressed I appreciate that so I'm like bro y 'all are capping bro y 'all don't even know like I seen the fight I seen her jump in the ring jumping your arms like bro like she's happy she's happy to be with you she's having a good time and everybody try to act like oh it's so bad man 103 sims listen you know it's a weird feeling hey i do what you need to do your wife goes and films porn with another guy and then at night you meet back up and she just kind of like tells you about what a kid the guy was like what a retard he was or like something stupid he said or that guy was so weird you know yeah it's a strange dynamic because people because then people commented like she's in love with him i could tell that she's in love with him no instagram dms she was a fan sort of she actually she was but she wasn't like a rap fan she's like an edm fan and i interviewed like a handful of edm djs so she was kind of like interested in me either way I have a question did it feel more important fighting Gypsy Crusader because it was kind of like you're fighting on behalf of your race no absolutely not if you're in the ring with me I don't give a f*** if you're a white supremacist or if you're a motherf***ing what's that black dude name what's the f*** Dr.

1:19:41Umar you fight him too well I don't care if you're black white I don't care if you hate black people if you love black people you're in the ring with me you gotta go right so i didn't i'm i'm professional so i don't care if he had a swastika tattooed on his head i don't care if he had a tattoo of martin luther king and malcolm x hugging brother you're in the room with me you gotta go i don't care if it was the if it was the palest whitest person or the darkest blackest nigga you gotta go right so i don't i'm looking at it like oh he's disrespectful i actually like gypsy crusader i like him i don't i think people who are like undercover racist are worse i like that he says what he says and feels how he feels and he doing a monkey app talking his shit like yeah that that's good like gypsy crusader is what he is you know what i don't like i don't like cost not's friend ray really ray is racist as hell ray was on a fucking platform with theo vaughn saying oh i wish i could just spam the n-word don't you wish he get with a white dude he like oh don't you just want to say nigga and then feels like no i'm chilling and it's like Come on, man.

1:20:43You know, like, wait, Ray, all your friends are fucking black. You at this motherfucking black-ass streamer university. You around all these black people. And then when you get with one white person, you talk about how bad you want to say nigga? That's the type of people I don't like. Ray has a clip online saying nigga. But check it out. Kai Sinat gets on his stream talking about something. Yeah, I don't like Aiden Ross' manager because he said nigga. He said chicken sandwich, nigga. You got chicken sandwich, nigga. Aiden Ross Mandra was congratulating Kastanat for having a McDonald's meal. But Aiden Ross Mandra was white.

1:21:15He was like, damn nigga, you got a chicken sandwich meal? Damn nigga, that's tight. Just as the white dude said nigga in a tight way. Kastanat's like, oh, I don't like him saying that. I don't like him saying that. Oh, but Ray says nigga, and you give him a Clover Boy's chain. Oh, but Ray says he wants to spam the N word, and you give him a Clover Boy's chain. Oh, Ray did the most racist shit on the internet I've ever seen. He told Marlon Wayans you talk too much. Right. What? Do you know who Marlon Wayans is? He's comedy black royalty. Do you know the family he comes from? Do you know who you're around?

1:21:49And you want to tell this black king he talked too much? Ray's not telling a white man he talked too much. Ray's not telling an Asian man he talked too much. Ray get around Marlon Wayans talking about some you talk too much. This nigga is racist. That's the most racist shit I've ever seen. Okay, throughout our lives, I'm sure you've known white people who say the N-word in like the way that black dudes say it. Yeah, in a cool way. In a friendly way. They don't mean it in a negative way or whatever. Gypsy Crusader is on the other side of the spectrum. He's on the other side. He's got the SS bolts on his chest.

1:22:18Yes. He clearly has a deep animosity towards black people and Jews and probably a bunch of other races as well. But so does Ray. You think Ray's really like that? He has a deep animosity. Look, he get around them black people, his black Clover boys, and he be like, oh, Kyrie Irving this, Kyrie Irving that. Oh, I love hip hop, fooboo, gang gang. He gets around white people. He's like, hey, don't them niggas stink. Like, nigga, Ray is worse than Gypsy Crusader. Really? He's worse. Bro, you're the only Asian person profiting$100 ,000 a day off this black-ass Streaming University shit. And you want to spam the NWR.

1:22:52You're that racist. Bro, I don't see no black people in K-pop bands. So why is he at Streaming University? We're not getting invited to they shit. But Streaming University is not like a black collective. That shit black as shit. There's a lot of black people. I don't know. It's black as a ho. All right. India love here. Nick pressure here black. It's a black-a-thon. No, that's just that. As soon as she's there. Nigga, that was a black-a-thon. That shit was like, I went from this black-a-thon to this black-a-thon to that black-a-thon to that black-a-thon to these black groups. Wait, but okay. When Gypsy Crusader debuted the KFC bucket during the press conference, I mean, I feel like you've got really, really, really thick skin.

1:23:28Yeah. You go into this fight knowing there's going to be racist stuff said and done. Yeah. So you're already set up to not take the bait, not get offended. Was there anything about the bucket of fried chicken? You're like, I'm not going to get offended. Like, I can't get offended. Like, I'll get more offended if somebody, like, said something about my career. If they said something about my abilities. Like, yeah, bro. Seen that last video. It's not that funny. Ooh, that hurts way worse than that. Like, God damn. Like, okay, he says the N-word. What, I'm milting? I'm not the wicked witch of the West.

1:24:00You can't. The N-word, okay, cool. But you like, yeah, this shit wasn't really that good. I like that because you're resilient. yeah you know because like a dude saying the n-word to you is like it's clearly only to hurt you and it's like if you're gonna say a word only to hurt me i'm just gonna like take the power away from that and just be like all right you dude like you're not gonna hurt my feelings by saying the most obvious thing to try to hurt my feelings yeah no and it's crazy that you say that and i am a little weird like that because every black person i know and all the black people i've been around been like hype like even my coach at the time was like hey man you're fighting a gypsy crusader you okay you gonna be calm you gonna be all right what the fuck nigga i'm grown like yeah i'm fine like but i know other people like came back the great came back the great he was kind of triggered by it huh what he was trying to fight him at the press conference he was trying to fight him afterwards backstage he's like he's triggered but it's like bro no i'm not about to get triggered like i'm like i'm not triggered by that like i said i like him more saying it openly than people who be like undercover.

1:25:02K-Mack did a bunch of prison times. So maybe in his head, it's more like, oh, you're in the other group. You don't like me? Well, we got to get down. Yeah. Yeah. He's seen a whole Aryan brotherhood in there. He used to that. But no, that doesn't bother me. I think the bug of the chicken was Wack 100 Isaiah too. I heard that too. But man, Wack 100 is a good entertainer if that's the situation. But I think he was like, yeah, bring a bug of the chicken and bring watermelon. So I'm like, So when you're fighting him, did he actually like say the n-word to you okay he didn't and there was a rumor that he did yeah but that's because um there's a clip on fred's video on fred talks fighting where me and my like people kind of got into it with gypsy crusader out after the fight right but what happened was i started it because he was in the back and he was like moaning and groaning in pain yeah so i went to like his vip i heard him he was like oh so i went to his little room and i was like yeah you in pain huh that's what i thought just saying some little clown shit and he was like man if you that's why you lost so he said that yeah yeah yeah so look but i started it yeah he's in his back room fights over i popped in his room like aha that's why you're in pain yeah so i started so i leave out so he's like screaming at me and my team just heard him screaming at me they didn't know that i started it so then my girl and the homies is like yo what the what you doing then the shit went up and they started leaving but then i had to tell them afterwards they're like yeah we heard him yelling at you did it i'm like hey man i started it because he called you he called your girl the n-word too right yeah yeah yeah he called her hair did that make you feel like okay i want to spaz out right now because it's one thing for you to get attacked but it's another thing when your girl gets something said to her that might really hurt her feelings she didn't sign up for this my girl is better arguments than me okay yeah man i i i suggest you keep it at me because my girl is gonna cut you down i don't yeah she she's vicious so yeah she was yelling at him and then he was yelling at her and it was saying some stuff and then she starts he started talking about her hair she he she started talking about his hair yeah i got a black woman bro that's not the person you want to argue with i don't even want to argue with her anyway i mean it was it's kind of weird like you were pointing out and when i rewatched the fight last night and it's like you see i was him up i'll give you the third round and the first one and the first one what bro all them overhand rights all them body shots i will say i think You did unbelievably well, given the fact that he was so much bigger and everything.

1:27:28But I still think it was fair to say that he won't. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You're smoking crack. The first round, I dominated. The third round, I dominated. The second round was the only close one. But one to three, I dominated. Power shots, body shots, head shots, all type of shots. He didn't hit me with nothing. If you did a highlight reel of Gigi Crusader, you wouldn't have shit. You have me going to the ground because he kept putting his weight on me. and I'm not going to hold you up. You see what happened to Blueface? He got tired round five and six from holding up Chibu. I'm not going to get tired.

1:28:00So if you're 50 pounds heavier than me and you're putting your weight on me, I'm going down because I'm not about to hold you up. Another time he threw me down, the third round I came out, boom, boom, boom, popping him in the face. He got mad. He throws me down. Of course they don't take a point. But if I would have threw him down back, they would have took a point. So did you identify, like you could tell the body shots that you landed because he was all hunched over. He looked like he was in such bad pain after and during the fight. I give it to him for not going down. Yeah. Because he got hit with some big shots repeatedly to the head and to the body.

1:28:34So the fact that he didn't go down, I give it to him. But then that's me fighting people way bigger than me. I'm like, yeah, I need to go down the weight because this should have dropped a normal motherfucker. I mean, even when I saw him doing an interview and it was probably like 10 or 15 minutes after the fight, he's just still just, oh, he's like, he looks like he was in such bad pain. It almost made me wonder if he had a pre-existing rib. Nah, it was new. I don't know. I wobbled him. If you watched the fight, I literally wobbled him. Yeah. Like, no, I won that fight clear as day. He threw me to the ground.

1:29:03One time I tried to, so he was putting his weight on me, right? So one time I tried to put my weight on him, and he just slid off of it, and I went to the ground. So there's one time where he threw me down, one time where he slid off of me, slid me off of him, and other times where I went down because I'm like, I'm not going to hold you up. and then at the end I went down at the end of the fight so the fight was over 3-2-1 boom it's over and I lay down because I got a bad habit from sparring that I picked up that after the spar I just lay down that's just a bad habit I picked up oh sparring's over so I lay down you get so tired you want to lay down my coach was yelling at me after sparring like no you can't you can't like bend over the ropes or anything like that you gotta keep your head up you gotta breathe right to help practice getting through it so I mean I can see the judges thinking that oh maybe he hit me with a shot that's why I went down at the end no it's over my friend so as soon as I said three two one it's over I can lay down like drink a beer relax but people were in the comments like oh you laid down after fight you laid down after fight yeah keyword after the fight like the fight was over he didn't do nothing to me I actually thought I was gonna start a slow clap so after the fight was over I went I would lay down and I seen everybody in there like that's what I thought it was gonna start that didn't happen i mean nobody has ever had more support in a boxing venue than you in that fight because true everybody in that venue was either black or pro-black anti-nazi yeah that everybody in that room wanted to see you win so bad clavicular okay he might i don't know he definitely didn't want me to win he's not political yeah he didn't want me to win anymore ed matthews ed matthews wasn't with me it was a few i mean hey hey that was a few but i mean they're not sure but even those guys didn't invite gypsy crusader on their stream yeah they should i mean bro i mean he was respectful to me in the ring out of the ring via skype he has his he has his fit ways but he wasn't you know crazy him and uh what's his name get into it cuff him but they that's because they get into it i didn't get into him he didn't get into it with me but uh yeah i went down thinking i was gonna start a slow clap and then ben came over and was like get your ass up right you want to get up i'm on my bed no slow clap for me today It was crazy because, I mean, watching it back, because I heard Gypsy Crusader say that he would not do it again.

1:31:23I retired him. Because he felt like the announcing was really one-sided and unfair. Which, when you watch it back, it's like pretty much everybody's being kind of like open about not really like judging this fight fairly. Because you got people like Wack and like everybody who are like, no, Super Hot Fire is winning. He is going to win no matter what. And then you got Charleston White, who's blatantly saying, no, I have to root for the racist white boy. Did you feel a way about that? So Gypsy Crusader doesn't want to come back because everyone was rooting against him? The announcers. I guess he felt like the announcers should have been more independent and unbiased.

1:31:58Okay, well, now he knows how it feels to be black. And he can't take it. And now he don't want to come back. Because when you're black, the announcers are against you. It's kind of like a reverse of the average scenario. You're welcome to being black, Gypsy. When you fight, everybody's against you, brother. But did it bother you that Charleston White was against you because you're black? No, that was hilarious. We've seen Mayweather fight in America, and everyone is in there rooting for Manny Pacquiao. Like, brother, now you know how it feels to be black. That's fair. You get rooted against. Suck it up.

1:32:25Come back. But I think I retired him. He doesn't want to come back, which is crazy because he weighs so much more than he needs to come back. He was saying he's old and he kind of doesn't want to fight anymore. No, they wasn't saying that. They wasn't saying that until after the fight. Isn't he like 40-something? Before the fight, I didn't stand a chance. Okay. Before the fight, it was an atom bomb versus a baby. It was a nuke versus an ant. Before the fight, why are you putting this guy in here, Muay Thai legend? Superhot's going to get killed. Before the fight, I'm getting killed. Then after the fight, it's like, he didn't have a trainer.

1:32:51He's old. He's tired. He's all I know. What the f***? The whole narrative changed after the fight to why it was even close. But no, Johnson White was hilarious, and I almost started laughing in the middle of the fight. I'm in the fight. I surround two. jimsy crusade is in front of me and i just hear charleston white get that nigga get that nigga so i'm like trying not to laugh because i can hear i'm like bro this nigga is hilarious charleston white is hilarious i'm hearing him yell get that nigga i'm like bro i told him after the fight i'm like bro you know how hard it was not to laugh during the middle of that fight it was like man you know how to do what i do man i'm just like bro you're hilarious watching that fight it kind of makes you realize that the life of a nazi is a is a pretty lonely life.

1:33:33Yeah, it's sad. You couldn't get anybody to come out to the ring with him? I mean... Nothing on his shorts. It was just an away game. It was just an away game. That's true. There were some places in Mississippi where I get booed. But then I'm looking at his Twitter and he's got like 30 ,000 likes on his tweets and shit. He got a lot of bad bitches hitting him up too. Really? Yeah, bro. I was on the comments on Instagram and a lot of bad females was like, get him gypsy. You got this gypsy. I'm like, damn, these bad bitches be racist. Probably some good white power pussy out there. Yeah, some big white power was he yeah hey no i'm a race trader i'm i'm i'm out yeah you just go whatever the girl talk about you know what i mean i like my white woman pale i mean he's probably he's he's elite in that realm yeah it was it was it was some 10 out of 10s like coming i'm like damn i didn't even know y 'all was even racist i just thought y 'all was bad damn yeah he got girls bro but but he don't got no kids he got no girlfriends so he might be gay you're 40 with no significant other and no kids kind of got to look at you look crazy it's focused on a streaming career can't have a kid and you're focused on streaming i think he might have a girl but he probably hiding her he that girl probably mixed or something you know how they be if you're him yeah you probably want to it was sad because afterwards i went back in there everybody was like man you want you did good you know i'm having a good time with everybody and he just had to leave you know like it's sad to the fact that he didn't have any friends but shit we had a rematch at a Tennessee rodeo and everybody would be going for him like bro it's not it's not that bad we It was just a black ass event.

1:35:01If they said, hey, we want you to find him again, would you be like, all right, cool, let's do it? No, because I'm going down in weight. So I fought him. Bro, I didn't even make weight. I had to put a phone in my pocket. Bro, I was under 190 pounds. Wow. Yeah, bro. I had to put a phone in my pocket. What's a phone? Like three ounces? Six pounds. I found out. You found a six pound phone? No, when I got on a scale, I was like 189. And then when I put the phone in my pocket, I was 195. So a phone is six pounds. Yep, didn't even make weight. I was too little to even fight this guy. It's like a cell phone from the 80s.

1:35:35You remember those? A car phone? Nah, maybe it was the case. Fill your pocket with marbles? Nah. Nah. I wouldn't fight him again because I'm no longer in the heavyweight division. I'm out of that division. So are you going hard trying to lose weight now? Or you're supposed to be? You haven't really started doing it yet? But here's the thing. So the heavyweight division in a brand-new situation is 190 and up. yeah i went and was 189 for scam no no no no no for scam i was 169 i lost bro i lost 30 pounds in two weeks for scam i was 199 when i signed the contract and was 169 the day before the fight bro i lost 30 pounds that's why scam be trying to talk i'm like bro bro i ran into scam after my fight and he was like what was it like fighting me i said i don't know i was dehydrated yeah i don't know it was that bad you just feel like totally like i got so i lost so much weight i got a tooth infection wow when you lose a lot of weight google it chat chbt look it up ask a doctor when you lose a lot of weight at one time you get a tooth ache because our body has mucus all over us and we have mucus in our brain and everywhere so when you lose weight too fast the mucus drips down into your jaw and it gives you a tooth infection the same thing chibu got a few months ago because chibu used to be like 400 pounds.

1:36:52Now he's like 280. So I had a toothache for my scam fight. I go to the next fight, Chibu loses 100 pounds and he has a toothache. And I'm like, damn, it's crazy you got a toothache and I had a toothache and we both got it when we lost weight. So I researched it and found out you get a toothache from losing weight too fast and the mucus coming down from your brain, expelling from your brain and going into your jaw. So bro, I was in a bag drinking salt water, spitting out salt water, huge toothache. When I got in the ring to fight Scam, I thought in my mind like, damn, I don't have nothing. Oh, we'll see how this is about to go.

1:37:27Like, I literally had nothing. Like, there was punches that I could not even throw. So, Scam, first of all, I'm the hardest person Scam's ever fought. I've already fought three people harder than him. And Le 'Veon Bell, Juicy Crusader. After me, Scam likely has fought three people worse. I'm his hardest fight. He's not even my hardest fight. so it's like bro I'm way better than this guy he's just at a very low weight class and he sucked me down like all this weight bro you seen me fight Gypsy at 190 you seen me fight Le 'Veon at 190 you seen me fight at 190 so if I fought you at 169 that tells you I lost a lot and I was 199 when I got the contract so I'm like bro I lost so much weight is this like if you were comfortably walking around at 190 would you be open to fighting scam again I can knock scam out right now at 190 but he's not going to fight me at 190.

1:38:19He's too skinny. He's too little. But I would easily like if me and Scam was in the club me and Scam was outside, I'd beat the brakes off Scam. But if I have to lose 30 pounds and then fight the next day, yeah Scam might probably get me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you feel like there are people who are going to emerge from the brand risk scene to become like more legit overall boxers? AP the fighter is cold. AP the fighter is going to go pro. I seen him winning belts I seen like he got a super dog in him You know how I lost 30 pounds And lost to Scam Likely? AP lost 30 pounds and won So he's a dog Anderson Silva's son Made AP lose like 30 pounds Bro he lost to 30 pounds And still f***ing won Bro his last fight he knocked out Minicon in the first round Bro AP the fighter Is cold And once he goes pro or he can stay on brand wrist, bro, he's cold.

1:39:18But he's a pro, so he can't – like I'm still an amateur, so I can fight a pro as an exhibition. So I kind of got like more of a pool because I'm an amateur. I can fight anybody, but with him being a pro, he can only fight pros. But, bro, AP the fighter is going to be a problem. Chibu is a fucking problem. I hope Blueface comes back, run it back, have Chibu lose some more weight. It doesn't seem like Blueface is coming back on brand wrist for the time being. yeah he got to that bridge might have been burnt but he got to he got it yeah he has to fight chibu again like that's not even an option like yeah i need that back i don't we got in and out okay you said that you're planning on focusing on stand-up but like listening to you talk about it you still sound like very excited about fighting no no no no no i am i am and i will i'll have an i will have another fight in 2026 but no my stand-up is here april 3rd this show is gonna go nuts i got more shows coming in the hole.

1:40:15I'm very excited about stand-up too. Trust me. I bet you could fight once a year and then just train besides that and then it won't be so destructive to your lifestyle. You couldn't see that? No, I think I could fight two or three times a year and still do great with the stand-up, with the shows. I think I'd do two or three. Yeah, definitely. But no, man. Chibu, AP the Fighter, and me me and then yeah I think those guys are going to do very very good it is crazy because the Branris thing like it feels like now I'm going to be stuck going to Miami like six or seven times a year for these fights because now I'm like really invested in a lot of these people they're good they're entertaining but even during my stand up show I have material I'm going to talk about the Jissy Crusader fight that's what I'm saying I'm going to talk about my Le 'Veon Bell fight.

1:41:15I fought a Nazi and a retired NFL player. So it's like I'm doing this brand wrist, and this is just giving me material for stand-up. So I am very excited about the boxing, but I'm transitioning that into very funny material. How old are you now? 35. 35, okay. Yeah. Still kind of a spring chicken. Oh, I'm very young. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very young. You're young, too. We all young. You know what I mean? I'm 42, man. Yeah, but if you die, everybody will be like, oh, you died so young. Yeah. Death is one thing. but like boxing is a different thing where it's like if you're if you're getting into boxing at 42 it's like holy shit that's old george foreman won a champion won a heavyweight championship in his 40s yeah but that's after training for like 30 years and fighting professionally yeah okay okay then you got a bernard hopkins bernard hopkins won a championship in his 40s right floyd maywell is about to fight in a few months he's 50 49 just very rarely do you see someone get into boxing at 40.

1:42:08It's a weird decision. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, they've been doing it. I'm not going to lie. But I mean, people want to see you again. You can't do any worse. Yeah. You can't do any worse. And then fight somebody fucking smaller than you. Before I was thinking maybe I should fight you, but now I'm listening to him talk about it. I'm like, I don't want to fight this guy. He's fucking focused on this shit. No, we can do it. But we're not going to say, how much you weigh? 236. Yeah, I'm not heavyweight. I know. Me and you both. We both got to lose weight. Bro, so how much did Jason Love weigh? What are you right now?

1:42:40Right now, I'm like 188. Oh, okay, shit. How much did Jason Love weigh? You know what was the weird thing is that I was 241. You weighed one of him? Yeah, he was 231. That's fucking crazy. Bro, that's because he's all muscle. And he got fucking a Homer Simpson stomach. But I think we were both like 240, 245-ish. but then he through doing all the cardio he lost a bunch of weight in the lead up and then i'm not gonna lie like there's no way i was 241 at that time i was just shitting and pissing every 30 minutes because i was so nervous that it was like i felt like i was on like a diuretic like i didn't have any water in my body because i'm just taking diarrhea's over and over because in my mind it was like panic mode well the fight didn't go as bad as you think right it didn't go too bad like you left unharmed.

1:43:28Well, yeah, I didn't get hurt. You didn't get no concussion. You didn't get a broken nose. I literally finished. I got hurt worse in sparring. This Russian dude punched me in the side of the head. My neck hurt for two weeks. But I literally got done, went home, took a bunch of edibles, ordered a burger, and then flew out like three hours later. And was so high, unbelievably high in that airport. People coming up to me wanting photos and stuff. But I do got one question. Why did you stop when you stopped? The ref asked you, like, do you want to continue? And you said no. I didn't say no. I just stared at him.

1:44:03Because in my head, it was like, well, I can't say that I'm done. But I don't want to keep going. I feel like I've gotten the point. So the ref's in my face, like, do you want to keep fighting? Do you want to keep fighting? And I'm just like. Like, maybe if I just stare at him, he'll just think, like, this guy's done. This guy's done. He can't. And that did happen. Oh, okay. I do wish I had kept going just to, like. Yeah, like now you do wish like you could have took a few more punches. At least made it to the first round. Bro, Lena was supposed to be the score girl, right? You didn't even let her do her job.

1:44:36She was so hyped to be a ring girl. Yeah, she was supposed to be the ring girl. Like, bro, all you needed was like one more minute. Just one more minute. You could have blocked for another minute. Because that scenario, I had not prepared myself at all for that. Him bum-rushing you? Just what it would be like if I ended up having to take a knee twice in the same round, you know? so when it actually came down to it i just didn't know what to say or yeah it was pretty pathetic so why did your trainer tell you that you could win the fight see okay when i took the fight i wasn't really planning on winning at all i was just kind of i'm mad at your trainer he should y 'all should have been made up game plan to survive yeah no game plan should not have been to beat up this guy when i told my girl about the fight she said you're crazy like he's huge he's all muscle he's gonna beat the shit out of you and i was like it doesn't matter i told her i said this is like a long drawn out skit and yeah i probably get beat up at the end of the skit but i get paid and we're gonna make a ton of content it's gonna be funny as fuck and then when it actually came to like training all of a sudden my trainer he sees footage of jason fighting and he starts freaking out telling me bro you can beat him he sucks yeah you you can beat jason love and i start believing it i start telling my girl hey you know i'm gonna win right and like after she told me she's like she's like you know it was really kind of hard to hold my tongue when you were telling me that you were gonna win and shit it was like it was it was awkward for me to have to be like okay yeah you're gonna win but it's just the game plan i think your game plan should have been to survive.

1:46:12That way when he came out bull rushing you, your game plan would already be like, let me survive this. I was so not ready for that. If you're thinking you're going to win and then he comes out like that, your mind is already like, oh, this is not going the way I thought. But if you're like, oh man, let me just survive. Let me get to the second round. Let me get to the third round. Then when he come out bull rushing you, it would have went the way you thought. Yeah. But my man right here, Tevin, he had a show, right? I want him to tell his story, his Hollywood experience, right? So he had a show that was supposed to get picked up, but then the strangest thing happened like you told it last night.

1:46:42You're going to like this. You're going to like this, Adam. Believe it or not, me and him, we have the same story. All the stuff he talked about going through, I went through just behind the scenes. I just don't have no viral videos, right? So I went to Howard University, got a one-way flight out here. First dream was make my own TV show. I got an HBCU TV series. You can actually watch it on Revolt TV right now. It's called The Mecca. And it's basically like a different world for the next generation. And so I I got in touch with a very prominent producer in Hollywood. True story. Been through all these different situations, having all these people.

1:47:16I'm not going to name names. I don't want to air anybody out. But anyways, got up through a prominent producer. They were like, oh, yeah, we love to make your show. We just want you to make your character gay. And then. That's Hollywood for you. That's what they want to do. They want to pick up your show. Yeah. And so that's the thing. It's based off my experiences at Howard. You know, are you familiar with Howard University? Are you? I heard about it. HBCU. Most beautiful women on the planet. ratio is 20 to 1 gay niggas not gay at howard i don't even make sense for the story authentically um but yeah so that happened and i changed i actually changed i actually took that note sometimes you you you take their note and you kind of change it i was like all right well what if the main character the love interest thinks that the character is gay that's actually more comedic that's funny if you're trying to get a girl she think you're gay that actually adds more carnival let's do that sent them that script that was like the best version of the script never heard from them again but doesn't matter i keep going get a new mentor i actually ended up working on insecure on hbo isa ratio actually helped uh fund the mecca presentation that we did and then we shoot that and then basically that gets the attention of every network in town fx tbs hbo hulu stars everybody says gotta hear nigga who are you because you know you gotta have some somebody attached or whatever to it we didn't have like a big name we didn't have chris rock at that like a chris rock attached we had like a like a like a c-list person you know but that there wasn't you know enough to get the job gatekeepers yeah yeah so gatekeepers and then 2020 a new network comes out called quibi they're like this new streaming platform is like short performed content.

1:49:00They're giving everybody, you know, shows. Kevin Hart had a show on there. I do remember this. Yeah. That would be, was the whole thing. Yeah. So we actually, I released a piece of my presentation on Instagram. Somebody from Quibi saw it and they offered us a deal. It was all, yeah, you're going to, we're going to make this show. And I basically, at that time I was 26 years old. I'd basically been like the youngest showrunner in Hollywood. And they sent me the deal before they sent me the deal, they went out of business. So basically I didn't even get to sign the contract. So then everything just collapsed.

1:49:28and then when he had his story that he liked he took it to Hollywood and they're like yo can you make your character gay? You make it gay we can sell this and he's like alright we can see what we can do and then they wanted him to have a scene where he was jacking off to gay porn I do that all the time but this is what they wanted in his script that's not what he's on I was just kidding also you just rolled it out yeah Yeah, yeah. Jesus. We know. No, but I mean, did you take it like, damn, they think I seem gay? Or did you take it like, it's just some DEI shit, like they just, shit needs to hit on different categories?

1:50:08I mean, really, like a gay thing should make it a smaller audience, right? Because there's less gay people. They were gay. So I get like wanting to push, like you wanted to, you know, highlight that characters. um i guess even like a seam situation maybe i don't know i just i don't understand basically i'm just trying to tell my authentic story because basically like the character is based off of like me like i'm from charleston south carolina went to all white schools never was really i was like one of the only black kids in my entire class i graduated only black kids my class i was the nigger dictorian basically at my school and then i went to howard right now it's kind of like it's like a fish out of water story but inversely so it's kind of like you kind of culture shocked around your own people and so just me trying to you know have that you know everybody black kids growing you want to have that cosby dream girl meet the claire huxtable y 'all have a family all of that but they didn't want to like they want to just kind of switch it so yeah so they had this pitch they was like i was on a pitch call these network pictures actually it was horrible pictures it was more more it was even more than just gay shit like one time they wanted me to uh open up the uh the episode of mass shooting on campus i'm like that's this don't happen this ain't virginia tech it's hbcu we don't do that yeah yeah so then it was like oh yeah um you know your love interest is a woman how about it be your roommate one day you're going to be butt naked and your roommate's going to be butt naked getting dressed you're going to reach over to your counter grab a ball of jergens start jerking off to your roommate how's that sound it's like grab a ball of jergens start jerking off to your roommate and i was like um that is not authentic to my experience yeah i would never use jargons i'm black we use cocoa butter so uh yeah no we never heard from them again i'm still pushing that show and i got a new show that i actually uh just finished making and so i got two shows right now but you guys do stand up together yeah we do stand up we got a show april 3rd so the shot at the show what's gonna happen is he gonna do some stand up i'm gonna do some stand up and i'm gonna premiere minutiae.

1:52:12Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So you should pull up. I'm definitely going to pull up. You got to pull up. Next Friday? Next Friday. Next Friday. Yeah. You got to come early though, brother, because the capacity seating, everybody's not going to make it inside. I'm not going to lie to you. Okay. So I'll hit you. Just come early because it's a certain capacity and way more people than that is going to show up. Okay. But that's okay. That's how we like it. We're going to show people getting turned away. We're going to show the playing the ammonium we're going to get interviews of how great the show was you know because we're building you know we're building a stand-up so you know 7 p.m is that a good no no no it's not but you should probably get there at like 8 30 because i want to make sure you're in there you got a seat i don't want you to get turned away um because it's gonna it's gonna be packed um for the capacity we have but um yeah i mean he has great movies he has great um freaking um shows like he's great he's very talented.

1:53:06My next movie we got we got we got some gay storylines on my next movie. So we got a scene for you. Oh I'm down. Yeah I'll play a gay guy. I don't want to like kiss a dude though. How about this I got something for you. I'm working on a period piece. It takes place in the 16th century. It follows this young painting protege right he gets invited to Michelangelo's estate on a painting retreat for some of the greatest artists in the world to work on Michelangelo's next great masterpiece. You could be Michelangelo, right? It's a psychological thriller, though, because when he gets there, he arrives.

1:53:45He's like, oh, yeah, this is all the greatest artists in the world. But he realized this is not just working on Michelangelo's masterpiece. This is also some gay shit. A freak off hosted by Diddy. It's a freak off hosted by Diddy. he somehow did he got in the time she went back to the 16th century and i'm naming this paint this movie oil on canvas i like it that's good it's hollywood man do you think that i should take a movie role because i remember hearing i think it was peter rosenberg they offered him a role in i think in atlanta yeah the tv show yeah and i think the idea was that he was gonna have to say the hard r yeah like in an aggressive yeah manner as the character that they're gonna cast him as and I guess I was like a hip-hop white boy.

1:54:30He didn't want to do it. Well, yeah, I disagree with that. I know MGK got offered a role. He didn't want to say the hand word. Maybe that's what I'm thinking of. Maybe it was MGK. I know MGK, for a fact, might have been Rosenberg, too. I kind of feel like in 2026. One of my favorite movies is The Longest Yard. And Stone Cold Steve Austin says, I still love The Rattlesnake. I still love Stone Cold Steve Austin. It was the guards versus the prisoners, and Nelly was their best running back. He was the best player in the world. He was better than all the guards and all the prisoners. So all the guards came to Nelly in the library and they were provoking him.

1:55:07And they were trying to get Nelly to hit one of the guards so they could beat him up so he won't make the football game. It didn't work. So Stone Cold Steve Austin, he dropped the N-word. Bro, it's a movie. It's a movie. Like, I get it. But it's like, bro, I still, I'm not like, oh, I can't watch SmackDown 98 now. Like, bro, what? I like it. I like it. I don't know, bro. I get it. I don't know. It doesn't make me not like Stone Cold Steve Watson. It was in the script. It's in the script. I don't think that matters. If it's not an artistic piece of work. But you ever see the tweets going in on Quentin Tarantino because he wrote himself dozens of roles over the years that involved him saying the N-word repeatedly?

1:55:49Quentin Tarantino is racist as fuck. Movies are good too. But when you're the one writing it, it does take on a different flavor. I've seen the Hateful Eight. Jango's a classic. Yeah. I don't like any slave movie. You don't like Jango? No. I don't like any slave movie. I honestly feel like Jango might be the only slave movie I've ever actually watched. Jango might be the best slave movie of all time. No, that's not good. That wasn't an amazing movie. You didn't like it? It's not yet. No. It's not good. The Gypsy Crusader was literally using fucking shit from Jango. You don't want to make a slave comedy?

1:56:19I could. I mean, I love the Roots, when Dave Chappelle did the Roots parody. That was funny. I like the blind white supremacist. Like, there's some, there's comedy in it. Even, even Campbell did the, uh, it took me a while, but when they did the auction, when Campbell did the auction, there were slaves and Campbell was out on the block and they weren't getting bought. The first few times I watched it, I was like, yeah, I don't like this, but I can't watch them. I'm like, yo, this shit is funny. So there's slaves. And then like this big Jason Love dude come up and then he gets sold. And then Campbell are like, what the fuck?

1:56:50Like, what about me? Bro, I hated that shit when they came home. I'm like, bro, slave shit is not funny. But then I had to get watching. I'm like, you know what? This shit is funny. But I do think that shit can be funny. But I don't like any slave movies. And Quinta Tarantino is hella racist. To me. He's a genius. Have you seen the Hateful Eight? I don't think I've seen that one. Bro, that shit just sound like a rap. Like, goddamn, is this a movie or a motherfucking DMX album? Yeah. Like, bro, no. I can't get that, bro. I just can't. It's just too much. Is it weird being people who aspire to write, you know, TV shows and shit like that, given that like there's so many people producing comedic content for like TikTok and Instagram for free?

1:57:34Is it because it feel like it's like a closing window of opportunities to make long form content through studios or on a professional level? Like, how's that feel? Yeah, Hollywood don't even feel the same no more. That's how I even survived out here working in different TV writers rooms. And it's like everything shrinking. people are talking about verticals yeah it just seemed like you gotta you kinda gotta make your own way at this point I mean it's like a show and a movie doesn't mean as much as it used to it just be like albums back in the day an album you buy album it'd be$12 you have the booklet pictures of the booklet on your wall you read the bag you read the credits now it's just streaming so yeah bro you just gotta have a crazy idea like Ryan Coogler with Sinners and you come up with something like that but it's only going to be like a handful of people not even a handful maybe one or two people can even do something I don't know I don't know about sinners you don't fuck with sinners?

1:58:29that's a slave movie that's not a slave movie was there people picking cotton in it? they were sharecroppers alright sharecroppers slaves oh they were sharecroppers they were slaves that was his job he was getting paid so let me ask you this how many Oscars did sinners get? I think it won like four or five because it was a slave movie it wasn't a slave movie there was people picking cotton That wasn't that was like a one. So at the end of the movie, the Klan didn't come to kill all the black people. That's a slave movie. At the end, the Klan came and was going to kill all the players. Klan, there's Pink and Cotton.

1:59:04Bro, if you make a slave movie, you're going to get Oscars. Let me make a movie right now called The Diabolical Slave. Bro, that's going to be the number one Academy Award. Everybody's going, oh, this is so great. It's so beautiful. Bro, Michael B. Jordan have been in all these great movies, but it wasn't until he's in there featuring the Klan that he's getting awards. Bro, this shit is fucked. This shit is fucked. It's Michael B. Jordan. How many times did you watch it? I watched it over and over and I've seen the clan and I've seen Picking Cotton it's racist that shit's racist I feel like anybody who hasn't seen sinners at this point is a vampire yeah I think it's very wide of you to not have seen sinners I'm so not a movie guy is sinners too black for you?

1:59:45no I'm totally down for some black shit but like okay the other day this is the principal problem with like long form content the other day is the other day we're about to watch a documentary I can't remember which one and I go to brush my teeth and of course I can't do anything without looking at my phone so I'm brushing my teeth for like two minutes and I like just open TikTok and in the course of like the two minutes I'm brushing my teeth I watch like three or four things that are like pretty entertaining and then I'm like looking at the documentary on the screen and I'm just kind of realizing like my brain wants to stay on TikTok right now like I have more control it's faster paced is just like so you'd rather watch a movie on tiktok not a movie but like you know tiktok it's just like and really everything i'm watching on tiktok is like clips from podcasts and shit that are like basically just ripped to tiktok that they're not profiting from in any way but like that's the problem is that this documentary that probably costs millions of dollars to make is competing with stolen content that has been ripped and put onto tiktok and i mean think about what that says for people who create content it's a dark world i don't even like calling it content like what what i like is filmmaking there's filmmaking there's content but yeah it's crazy like content is taking over the world it's just yeah nothing you could do about it yeah it's pretty hard it's pretty hard but um man we just navigating hiring for your content it's hard you know it's a little you need some porn pa a PA I have like a Vietnamese PA who does a bunch of random tasks for us at this point which is another that's why it's hard to work in entertainment these days because you're competing with some Vietnamese you don't do no romantic porn no I eat bitches sometimes romantic porn like you know it got started off with like a eating bitches from the back is not romantic I do do that no like they meet and they actually you know they talk and then they get into it You know, in my entire time watching porn, I don't think I've ever actually watched any of the like pre-porn acting.

2:01:46Like a therapy session and then they like, you know, she's talking about her attachment styles and then. When you go to the porn awards, you see them giving out awards for porn movies that like have all this acting and shit. And in my head, it's kind of bizarre because I don't think they make a lot of it anymore. And I personally have never cared or consumed any of that. I skipped straight to the double anal. super hot fire devil anal is crazy work man so okay i got a question for you 2026 no jumper man what we doing what's your plan what's your idea man shit i don't know you don't know just making content but i mean what's your idea we should do some shit um yeah we should do some shit i'm just wondering um just because like i just wonder what's your what's your thing for 2026 because you know people have left you know that sharps the 80s the t wells and stuff so i'm just like how you going what you gonna do this year you know i'm just running trying to pick a brand like what's the deal you know i do feel like a lot of shows and left i feel like a lot of uh well that was like three years ago honestly so i kind of feel like we're sort of past that in a way i do feel like we have like a very nice sort of tight-knit cast of characters at this point yeah but i feel like so much shit is moving in the direction of streaming i want to like keep streaming getting more comfortable streaming comfortable like putting in the eight nine hour stream yeah hours and shit like that and like the irl streaming and stuff like that so that's like a big priority for me uh but yeah i don't know and you know what else i realized too like no jumper was built so much off of hip-hop and like hip-hop i don't think it went down i think hip-hop peaked like i think that shit so when hip-hop was not in the charts last year it's because that shit peaked Like the SoundCloud wave, like, bro, that was just like 100 Soulja Boys.

2:03:34You had the Trippie Red, you had the 6ix9ine, you had the XXXes. You had all these people going up from their house, brother. And then you had people like, take K to race. Like, dude, he has his own wanted sign rapping next to his own wanted sign. You can't beat that. SoundCloud was huge. Yeah. And then it pivots from SoundCloud to like, oh, okay, these are like young kids with pink hair and they're rapping about killing people, but they're not really killing people. So now let's pay all of our attention to the people who are really killing people. King Von. So then you get all the, like the super gangster era and COVID really kind of boosted it too, because COVID just made everything weird, you know?

2:04:07Yeah. And then since then though, like because of the rise of short form content and stuff, it feels like the labels completely stopped investing in hip hop. So now you don't, you know, somebody like a J Cole who was signed to a label and they're investing in him and they've helped him to become as great as he's become. There's just so much less of that taking place that it's kind of just on you. If you want to be great, it's on you. You got to figure it out. And it's just so hard for people to rise above that, that it feels like, you know, because no jumper for years and years, there was so many interviews that were doing that were basically like, let's interview this dude that the label is investing into that the label is kind of like helping make them seem interesting to the people.

2:04:46And now they're like, you just, you never run into that. So people aren't getting signed no more. Like really, they kind of just let you do your thing and maybe they'll give you a deal for an album or for the single that popped off. but I see dudes all the time like I knew dudes during the SoundCloud era that got signed for three million dollars and nobody knows who they are nobody at all at all at all but the labels were so competitive at that time that they were signing people and giving them big ass bags and then it didn't work and then they were like oh like maybe this business model ain't that smart so now it's like oh they're popping on TikTok they seem like I have a real fan base on Instagram reels or whatever like okay maybe we'll invest into them but it's it's just so different so what is the next hip-hop renaissance what is the next way we need a bunch of teenagers to start rapping like immediately well first they gotta read a book generation is a little cut they not yes generation i don't see no more kendricks or coles coming up from gen z gen alpha i do think that like the thing that will separate the next generation will be that they will have a reference base that's way outside of the algorithm you know like they will read books they will be learned about prior generations of music and art and like i feel like not being that online is pretty critical to developing aura at this point yeah but it's just if you don't do that it's also very hard to make people care about you because these are the places where people go to find out but really like all the artists that we can think of that are coming out that have motion like most of them are people that don't seem like they're terminally online playboy cartier you never get to see him yeah like the sd kid from the uk he's just not making tiktoks like if you want to be mysterious and dark you just can't be online that much so i feel like that kind of is that's going to be a crucial component not really like seeming like you were made for short form content but i don't know It's like every once in a while somebody comes through and just freaks the game and just changes shit up.

2:06:54Yeah, it's about time for that. The next wave of rappers are going to be the first rappers that was born on the internet. Like the last wave, SoundCloud is the last wave of rappers that touch grass. That was there before YouTube. That was there before Wi-Fi. That was you go outside, go to their friend's house. You know what I mean? Like now it's 2026. So anybody that's about to start rapping like grew up with likes and comments. As soon as you have a smidge of motion now, they're hounding you to sign or whatever. When we think about it, like when I was doing all those SoundCloud rapper interviews, none of those dudes were really signed.

2:07:27They were able to kind of like develop at least for like a year or two without being signed. And now it's just like so competitive. If there's anyone who has any kind of motion, there's so many people locked in, in place to like profit off them. I don't know. It's a weird world we're in now. It's depressing. It is depressing. We need some music. music is definitely hip-hop is definitely at a at a low you know but uh the pendulum swings it got to come back it's been like yeah we had the kendrick moment but then it's just been like dry now it's like people are more interested in hating on rap than appreciating rap you know like the conversation about jack harlow's album sucking was way louder than the conversation about like oh cool there's a new jack harlow album we get to listen to it's more just like right and it's like he did a whole interview like an hour and a half long interview and he said like one thing that came off as really tone deaf about like i went i went blacker yeah i would listen to the whole interview it's like in context in context he didn't say nothing wrong yeah but that one sentence was enough to really create like a dog pile effect that was probably pretty bad the internet yeah like and the album was pretty good and also think about what he's saying he's saying like all these other white dudes went to country and rock and roll like mgk goes pop punk And he's kind of saying, like, I didn't choose to do that.

2:08:47If anything, I made music that is more like more deeper within like the black culture. Yeah. Which you think some black people would at least kind of appreciate. But no, no, no, sir. No, you're right. Like there's more people piling on Jack Harlow than saying the fall off was good. You know, there's more people who has negative things to say about a rapper than people who have positive things to say about a rapper. The J. Cole album, there was nothing to hang on to to hate on. it was just an actual like a shitload of songs for his fans yeah what social media gonna do with that social media has no use for that they only want you if you're like a meme or they can clown you or whatever it's beefing strange world yeah it's pretty it's pretty um how do we fix this you hear more about j cole right now because he just did an interview with cameron where he actually talked about the drake and kendrick beef which that's kind of crazy right like he put out the album and it was like sort of a muted response and it sold really well i'm sure his fans were hyped on it but then now he does an interview where he talks about the beef that drake and kendrick had and that's like way more viral yeah i don't like that i think jay cole has to pick a side i don't like the neutralness he is a neutron he's like oh you don't want the smoke i'm happy kendrick lamar had his year but also i want iceman to do good it's like brother you're nobody's friend but see that's the problem though it became so polarized you have to pick a side and i think he really f***ed with both of them and really didn't want to pick a side and he he did that this song and then immediately like regretted it because he felt like he had to say something

2:10:20uh i gotta go with drake i love it yeah if i gotta choose i'm going with drake musically i really like music and drake i gotta go with drake i guess i like drake more but really i like both of their careers as an entirety i gotta pick we gotta revere our goats you know it's just like really like look at music it's kind of like these dudes are like clearly the best it's no it's no diss to Kendrick Lamar. Kendrick Lamar is a great artist, but if you look at my life, you know on your phone there's watch time? If you look at my life, I have thousands of hours listening to Drake and like less than 100 listening to Kendrick.

2:10:52So it's like, bro, what are we even talking about? Like, what? Yeah. I gotta go with that situation. Yeah, I gotta go with Drake. But I'm not gonna lie. When I like us dropped, I was in my feelings. I was in my feelings, boy! What, it hurt you as a Drake fan? no i'm saying like i was riding bro tde bro i was with pg lane but i was outside with everybody else like well i'm not gonna lie when that dropped that was like oh that shit was spiritual like that shit hit i'm like man this is but you know after time and time and time in a year and i'm just like yo like thank me later nothing was the same uh month can't room for improvement comeback season this is like no bro i the drake's music and i don't know he might not be writing all the music but he's picking the right songs like if drake has 10 people writing songs he's picking the right ones so that's there's still a talent in that because i can have both y 'all writing songs for me and i'm picking whack songs i think as time goes by it's just going to become more and more clear to people that as much as not like us was a huge moment and everything that like you just don't have the biggest song in the world to be a diss song towards you and have your career basically continue on unabated.

2:12:15I just feel like Drake's career is so fine and this next album is probably going to be so big. He's about to be fine. He needed it, bro. For all the dogs, certified lover boy, honestly, never mind. He needed a slap in the face. He needed some water. He needed, bro, get back to fire shit. Those were kind of mid to you? her loss was crazy though oh you're right but that's because people wasn't feeling he like alright let me show y 'all so I hope he's on that alright let me show y 'all cause you know yeah bro like bro Drake was hard back when he was rapping with Lil Wayne on Ransom back when him and Lil Wayne was going back and forth when we didn't know who he was signed to but bro he needed that like bro I'm like I'm hoping bro the Iceman is about to be like cold I can't wait bro like I I literally wake up and I'd be Googling Drake Iceman.

2:13:05But I knew that his fall off was coming. I knew something was coming because I'm like, bro, he's been killing it for too long. And I know how careers work. And there's ebbs and flows. Nothing, what goes up must come down. It's the law of the world. So I knew something was going to happen for Drake. Like, man, something's about to happen. And Kendrick did his thing. But no, I can't. I'm on Drake. As far as side, like, yeah, the Iceman. And I tell Kendrick, like, bro, I'm sorry. Kid Kid Mass City is great. But, bro, Drake? No, man. His music is like. I mean, if he puts out Iceman, it's going to be huge.

2:13:40And it's going to probably motivate Kendrick to do whatever he wants to do musically next. So, really, I think we all win. In the Kendrick year, I seen Lil Wayne in his prime. And Lil Wayne in his prime was the real deal. I'm not saying Kendrick is, you know, bad or anything. but a lot of people was riding that Kendrick album, the one where he's with the car. He's outside. A lot of people was on GNX, GNX, GNX. It was so great. But it's like, bro, I heard the dedication too. I heard the drought three. I was there for the Carter three. I was there for a brand new. I was there for Lil Wayne in his prime.

2:14:14I was there when Lil Wayne had 70 features out in one year. Bro, KMT, DMT, bro, bro. I seen peak rap. It's like watching Michael Jordan in his prime and then people be like, oh, Anthony Edwards is good. Like, bro, I seen him get three peats twice. So the Kendrick hype that he was getting, the fact that I was around for prime Wayne. When I went to high school, when I first went to high school, nobody had a tattoo. By the time I graduated, everybody had a tattoo. That's Lil Wayne. Like nobody. Bro, when I was a kid, a tattoo was like, oh, my God, you were like evil. You're like the worst. You couldn't get a job with a tattoo.

2:14:51After Lil Wayne came, everyone had tattoos. People was getting face tattoos. That was Lil Wayne. Like, bro, that's just one example. That's what Little Russell said. Everybody became blood skizzling. No, fuck Little Russ. I fucking hate Little Russ. I fucking hate him. I can't stand Little Russ. Man, I would take one Little Wayne song over Little Russ' whole career. If they told you, hey, you can only have one Little Wayne song or you can listen to everything Little Russ has ever did for the rest of your life, I'd be like, give me that Little Wayne song. Little Russ has no business speaking on Dwayne Michael Carter.

2:15:24he has no business speaking of the way he got heaven sent even Gypsy Crusader was heaven sent Epstein is heaven sent Gypsy Crusader is heaven sent or everybody who abused children and rapers and kidnappers is heaven sent bro he should not bro that fat little man should never speak rap again he is putting on a master class on how you torch all of the goodwill that he built up prior to this in his career. It's unbelievable. I see so many people that I know who were kind of f***ing with him and supportive of him because they're from NorCal just trashing him on their stories. Just talking about how the Bay needs anything to erase the LaRussell stain that they have put on that region.

2:16:09Does he even get haircuts? I don't know. He doesn't get haircuts. He doesn't go to the gym. He just looks disgusting. I f*** with anyone who doesn't really get haircuts. Man, he looks like a school bus driver. But the man said oh, he made people want to be Bloods. Bro, I listen to I'm blood in soup. Whoop got bloods on the table. Bloods on the floor. F*** with my bloods. There's blood on the floor. I listen to all the Lil Wayne shit. I never went to be a blood. I never went to gangbang. But when I was at home, oh, I was throwing the bees up loud in the mirror like I'm blood in soup. Whoop. F***ing to the beehive.

2:16:36But I never went out and went into gangbang because of that. The rest, what the f*** are you talking about? Bro, bro. Lil Wayne said it himself. He said if you need an example on how to live, then you shouldn't have been born. So if people are looking at Lil Wayne and like, oh, I got to be like this. I didn't get so. Because you're not Lil Wayne. Do you? Be you? I don't want to hear Lil Russ saying anything negative about Lil Wayne. As a rap, you're a rapper in rap and you're rapping and you have something negative to say about Lil Wayne. Oh, please stop rapping. Give me your pen. Give me your notebook.

2:17:09Give me your microphone. Give me your beat machine. Give me any rhyme you got in your head and get the fuck out of rap. Ain't nobody, bro, don't ever talk ill of Lil Wayne. Even before all this shit, I went out of my way. I said, okay, I'm going to listen to this guy. I listened to like 10 songs. I mean, his music honestly sucks. It's trash. It's Kiz Bop. It really is. Hey, I'm out here. Yeah. When you listen to music from the 80s, it's like kind of reminiscent to him. I'm just like. Lil Wayne has so many deep cuts. He has so many deep songs. I mean, just listen to the Carter Five. You know what I mean?

2:17:40Like this man should not have. I know. I'm very mad about it. I'm upstate. I'm always be mad about it. I'm mad at Jay-Z. For signing him? Bro, that's crazy. Yeah, Lil Wayne was a bad influence. And Lil Wayne, like, bro, shut up. You're talking about art? Bro, this nigga's the Michael Jackson of rap. There wouldn't even be no Drake without Wayne. He thinks, like, LaRussell thinks that this is all a psyop because there's so many anti-Rock Nation people that they're basically, like, going out of their way to create anti-LaRussell hate. No. No, you're a rapper and you talk. I stopped being somebody's friend because they didn't like Lil Wayne.

2:18:14I literally stopped being his friend. His name is Joshua. He doesn't like Lil Wayne. I can't be friends with you. There's a handful. I was at a poker game. I can never be friends with a man who thinks Lil Wayne music ain't good. I'm playing poker and this dude just tells me that Drake is ass. And I'm just like, okay. At that moment, I'm not having a real conversation with you about rap anymore. It's just over. But Wayne, I would put in that same box. People at times, when you hang out with non-rap people, will try to tell you that Jay sucks. it's like okay I'm not we're not doing this I don't have enough oxygen to spend on having that conversation and then usually they come back a few years later like you know what I actually did like this song or you know I actually did like this track but yeah someone look at me in my eye telling me that Lil Wayne is sucks or he's not a good rapper it's just like oh I need to get as far away from you as possible because you not you I don't know what's wrong with you something's wrong with you spiritually like Lil Wayne mixtapes you remember the mixtapes oh yeah you remember the quarter two the quarter three you remember the run like you remember the features like do you remember when he would take a beat and do better than the original artist yeah what are we what are we talking about there's so many mixtapes during that era that i don't even know if i could like find them like if they're still out there there's just like new mixtapes popping up on the rap blogs like every other week from wayne the drought one two three dedication one two and three the drought is over uh sorry for the wait uh dedication went up to for I Can't Feel My Face with Joel Santana.

2:19:43Come on, man. Black Republicans. Come on, man. Lil Wayne is not good. That's like fighting words. Yeah. For real. F*** you, LaRussell. What else do we need to know in terms of what you guys got going on? What are we looking out for? April 3rd. Next Friday. This Friday. I don't know when this video drops. Good Friday. Good Friday. Good Friday, April 3rd, me and Tevin Scott, man, we bringing a great comedy show to Hollywood. I'm doing stand up. He's doing a little stand up, but he's showing his movie. Great movie. Classic movie is going to be good. A short film. It's not an hour long. So we're bringing it, man.

2:20:25We're going to keep bringing it, man. He's been doing his thing, writing and directing. I'm back doing stand up, you know, on real season, done a lot of shows. He's he showed his film. People love it. People have invested in it. You know, he's worked with Issa Rae. He's worked in Hollywood. He's got deals out here in Hollywood. So we're just working together. You know what I mean? Streaming deals and things of that. So it's going to be a good show. April 3rd, Broadwater, second stage, 9 p.m. Get down there early so you do get a seat. And, you know, Deshaun Roth, Tevin Scott, you know, we're going crazy.

2:20:54We're just getting started, though. Hell, yeah. Yo, it was honestly an honor to get down with him. Yeah, Russell, that's important. But, yo, it was an honor getting to talk to you because I do completely understand and revere all of your contributions over the years. It's one of the craziest stories in rap. And seeing you be able to reinvent yourself as a fighter and everything while still doing the comedy thing is honestly very inspiring. Yeah, it's unique. It's never been done. It's now I'm the first stand-up comedy boxer. But boxing is like a weird career reset thing. Jake Paul was like the problem child, this bad boy.

2:21:32He kind of really started to kill it as a fighter and like everybody kind of forgot about all that shit and I feel like you know you kind of are really in that position now or especially if the Gypsy Crusader one and that being so viral yeah that was a big fight kind of just making so many people like reconsider you like damn this guy really got some depth to him people definitely want to tune into the next fight people definitely want to tune into the stand up where I'm talking about my life I'm talking about the fights it's going to be it's going to be 2026 it's going to be a it's going to be a good year it's going to be a very entertaining year LaRusse shout out to and shout Shout out Lil Wayne, Young Money, Cash Money.

2:22:06The best rapper alive, Lil Wayne, to this day. You know what time it is. Yeah. And shout out to Aiden Ross for - Shout out Aiden Ross. Glorifying this young black man, even if it was partially due to fighting a white supremacist. Man, love Aiden Ross. Me and Aiden Ross is like that. Man, shout out Jordan. Shout out Brand Rich. Shout out Randy Batista. Man, shout out the whole Yami gang. I can't wait to be on the next car. Can't wait to see you at the next in Miami or even in the ring again. Just fight somebody smaller. Just, you know what I mean? You ain't got to fight the biggest dude in the room.

2:22:35Damn. I'm looking for a little fat guy, yeah. Yeah, get you a little cab driver. You know what I mean? Get you a cab driver. That would be funny if I fought some random dude. Who told you to fight but G-Toe? Man, they're trying to fight a mutated Super Saiyan. Nigga, like, I'm not fighting Jason Love. And you see the big niggas. I done fought. I'm not fighting this big ass dude. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like, bro, fight. Get you one more in there, bro. They're going to want you back because you pulled so many numbers, bro. Big fight, big face, big card. you know so people gonna want to see you again bro that's the thing about boxing bro the people want to see you again bro like you you can do no is khalifa yeah no no i heard him make that joke yeah i appreciate you guys for real all right man love it was real april 3rd raw water second second stage for show no jumper jayshon raw my guy super hot fire no jumper coolest podcast in the world.

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