DJ Vlad on Falling Out with Boosie & Aries Spears Nicki Divorcing her Husband & More

35:09It would be out of the ordinary for larger than 10 % of the people to hit the like button, I think. 600 downloads? Yeah. So you could think maybe 1 ,000 people paid for it. If that is the case and it's$6 per download, download that would mean that he earned six thousand dollars off of this content now let's say that he drops it clip by clip on youtube maybe you can make another 10 grand like that right so it's also the production cost the production cost for sure so i would say that as far as him getting even anywhere close to like 25 or 30k that that is probably pretty unlikely but i would say that you know by the time everything's said and done especially if he does this like every month he might have a decent business on his hands yeah you'd have to drop it you know something that's just part one yeah i don't know if there's a part two but it is an hour and a half and you and you actually watched i didn't actually get around i watched some of it i've seen a couple clips yeah the the lighting could be improved it doesn't seem like they had a light

36:16which is kind of like step one get a ring light eighty dollars it doesn't seem like they had a I'm like, yeah, I don't know, man. I didn't see the setup. The interviewer, I think, either needs to improve or be replaced. Because, look, I think the shit that annoys me is that when you deal with these boosy and airy situations, it's approached as, I'm doing all this. But you're not getting on stage and performing. This is a partnership with me and you. When I'm not doing the interview, it's not the same interview. You see the trash podcast that he does with his partner, Steinberg. No one watches that shit.

37:06Yes, the quality is trash, but the fact that you have this guy who's probably scared to get fired agreeing with everything that Ares said, no one wants to watch that shit. Right. The whole thing, all his viral moments is me pushing back on him and arguing with him. Right. So when you don't have that. You're not really going to get a good final product. I think it was like, you know, I'd heard that his kids was going to do it. You know, that his kids were interviewing him. Right. That's cool if he wants to give his kids a shot. But. I don't think, you know, you're going to really argue with your dad like that.

37:46in this kind of situation. You want to get someone that knows what the fuck they're doing and is going to put you in your place when they feel that you're wrong and create some sort of friction and create a good show. So, you know, it's... And like best case scenario, say that his kid or whoever did the interview, let's say that they somehow had a writer on deck who was able to write 30 topics that were just as good as what the Vlad TV team would have came up with. it's still about hey you're gonna say something and then what am i gonna say right in the moment because i know plenty of interviewers especially on like the politics side of things etc where to me it sounds like they're just reading questions off a piece of paper and to me that's a huge turnoff like i need to feel like you're gonna be able to hear them say something that's a little bit offensive a little bit out of bounds a little bit weird whatever right even something that's just brilliant and be able to respond appropriately and i think that's what really separates the men from the boys in terms of interviews is like can you think on your feet can you force them to make more sense or be more logical when it actually matters because if you're watching somebody do an interview and the interviewer is just glazing them and just letting them say whatever yeah that's not really going to be as interesting to the people they want to see two heavyweights not do battle but they want to see you performing together and both doing your part let me tell you andrew schultz yes he texted me uh the other day what's he saying uh he said yo i'm just sitting here sitting here watching you roast comedians they're supposed to be uh the best at roasting oh shit he said the makeup shit is lol shout out to candace you know so so that's hilarious this is this is someone who does stadiums yeah telling me yo i'm seeing you roast the dudes who are supposed to be the best i think that what people forget to realize is that just because i'm behind the camera doesn't mean i haven't been performing for the last 20 years right i've literally been in the dirt with some of the best comedians going back and forth and literally doing real-time comedy routines in a certain type of fashion with them for that long, I could speak on camera pretty well.

40:09I could formulate routines and so forth pretty well. So it's not just you. You're dealing with someone who really is a professional and is really good at this. So you can't just sit there and replace them with just anyone and think you're going to get a final product like this. You can build up to it and you can create something cool. But...

40:30You're not doing this by yourself. Like I am, as much time as you put into it, I put into it. So to think that you're going to get more than me on my platform when I'm doing it right there with you is your ego starting to get out of control, right? And honestly, look, here's the way I look at shit, right? Me and Godfrey aren't speaking, but I will tell you this. Godfrey was the first comedian that really just got it. because I wasn't paying anyone back then, right? He would hit me more than anyone else to do interviews because he saw how it affected his bookings, right? I was talking to D.L. Hughley about this the other day.

41:19He's like, the thing about these podcasts with comedians is they get to go viral without burning out their main stage content. See what I'm saying? they get to go viral with on the spot content and still go on stage and do the same routine they've been doing without everyone's, oh, I already saw that shit. This is boring, right? He got it and he would hit me over and over again. We would do interview after interview and they would go viral, viral, viral and his bookings went crazy and he never asked for anything because he was like, yo, I'm making way more money here. Like, yo, I saw Aries. you could ask anybody anyone in the comedy world he was doing small clubs when we first started he did his biggest venue ever 3 ,000 people in Connecticut he did 1 ,400 people at the Novo in LA where I went he got flown out to Saudi Arabia to do that whole comedy festival he just came back from a UK tour none of this shit was happening until all the clips started going viral the clips that I did with him went viral like if you think about it from a long term you know just you'd look at it top down.

42:26If I was Aries, I'd be like, I don't even care about this appearance fee. Like, yo, I'm doing great off what we're doing. You eat, I eat, we're good. I never asked him for that. But if I was in his shoes, that's what I'd be thinking. The last thing I'm thinking of is let me keep trying to get more and more thousands of dollars. Like, okay, you were getting four so you go up to six that's once a month you do it maybe five times a year that's an extra 10 ,000 a year one show will dwarf that one show could get you 20, 30 ,000 if it's a big enough venue 50 ,000 if it's a big enough venue a tour could get you that so you're nickel and diming me and that's fine I don't mind but I feel like you're missing the whole big picture of what's really happening.

43:20Do you think that if Kevin Hart was in your position, would he be doing that? Or would he be thinking like, yo, I'm trying to level up these, I'm trying to do stadiums. What do I need to do and who do I need to do it with where I can get to the stadium level? As opposed to try to dig up in someone's pockets to get an extra$1 ,000. That's my thinking. That's my thinking. But everyone thinks differently. Because the way that you've sort of pioneered doing business with all these different people is that it's almost like you're starting a podcast with them however it's not guaranteed frequency it's not like oh we're going to do this every week it's like we're going to do this as often as it makes sense which i think is actually pretty smart because myself i've developed multiple weekly podcasts which is good but then the bad side of it is that sometimes it feels like me and whack like we're kind of burning ourselves out like sometimes it feels like uh maybe this was a little bit more popular in the beginning but because they've seen us struggle to find topics to hit every week maybe it doesn't necessarily have the same oomph that it had when we were just doing because me and wag did do maybe three or four podcasts before we started doing a podcast regularly so i think that that method of doing it as often as you're able to have a good set of questions is kind of smart um but it also just like really opens the door for these people to to feel like they have more power and to keep demanding more money up until the point where it almost makes it not worth it doing it from your perspective.

44:50You could demand more money and we could have conversations about it. Yeah. Me and Tony Yeo have had conversations about money and sometimes the answer is yes, sometimes the answer is no. Right. And I explained to him if it's a no and he's like, all right, I get it. We go right back to work. Right. you know or or we you know we figure something out or maybe you know we go longer or something in terms of like the frequency uh but we just sit there and have a normal ass conversation if you can't have a normal conversation that was the problem i had with boosie also because when i told him i can't even do the 30 he hung up he called me cheap and hung up on yeah right and that that right there i thought was foul and i had to like take a deep breath you know wait about maybe 15-20 minutes and say alright I'm gonna reach out again I'm gonna have another conversation because I don't want to leave it like that right but you know people have bad days people you know sometimes have problems dealing with their emotions and you know on those days Boosie has a lot of drama you know in his life or there's like a woman who claimed like he like raped her when she was 10 or something just really just fucking crazy and ridiculous and we never really heard anything after that yeah yeah that that was and by the way i don't think there's any truth in that right there's any truth but to have someone come out and say some shit like that will probably fuck up your day yeah especially if there's a lawsuit going on behind the scenes i don't know i don't know is that what you heard i don't know but i'm just saying if that was the case that's the kind of thing that'll stress you the fuck out well i mean i don't know a lawsuit about a bunch of nothing is whatever.

46:34Yeah. Right. But yeah, man, you know, we have to be able to have these type of conversations because there's a lot of money involved. Yeah. Because that's really ultimately why we're all doing it. And if we can't even talk, then there's nothing there. Were there any crazy diva moments similar to Aries' makeup artist thing with Boosie over the years? No. He's pretty straight up. Yeah, no, Boosie, you know.

47:05Boosie would come in. He would perform for the full three hours. I mean, he would never say, hey, I got to go. I think at one point he would change his flight before we started because he knew we were going to go a little bit longer. So, yeah, no, he understood what he's doing. And that's the thing. This is why Boosie is successful as Boosie. When he's getting paid to do something, he comes in and does the job to his full capacity. He doesn't bullshit. He doesn't want to go, yeah, man, come on. All right, are we done yet? Like, oh, man, I'm tired. Come on, I'm hungry. You know, that type of shit, which even if he keeps going, it plays out on camera.

47:41Right. That a person just doesn't really want to be there. So, no, man, he was 100 % professional, and I think this is why he's done well. Like, I think dealing with promoters and other people and so forth, that he does his thing and he does his numbers and everyone's happy. I never complained about Boosie. Did you see the, I think, probably the most viral clip from his Patreon interview that he did was basically him describing a scene in one of his upcoming movies in which his character, I guess, rips another character. And when he's describing it, it's like he's kind of struggling to find the words to describe it.

48:28And he's kind of making a lot of different clarifications about how this is. It's not an aggressive rape. But I wouldn't call it aggressive. It sounded crazy. He's describing putting something in the drink. And again, this is a character in the movies, not actually him. But the version of it that I saw going viral, the caption was, Vlad would have edited this out. Right. Yeah, I probably would have. Okay. So that is, you would have immediately identified like, Like, oh, this might not be good for his career. Maybe we'll zap this out of the interview since it's not really valuable on its own. Yeah.

49:03Certain shit hits the cutting room floor. Okay. Yeah, with lots of people. With lots of people. Because I understand you don't know what you just said, but I know what you just said. Right. And this is going to go not the way that anyone wants it to go. Right. Yeah, all the time. I mean, to be fair, I don't think anybody sees that clip and thinks, oh, Boosie's a rapist. They just think Boosie is having a hard time communicating whatever he's trying to say about this. And maybe he should have thought about it a little bit more so he could have got his words together before he spoke about this alleged rape scene.

49:37Yeah. That was a pretty funny clip, though. I've seen that a couple of times now. Yeah, no, a couple of clips from his interviews I've seen make his rounds. Right. Really, he needs to – he doesn't need to. but my suggestion is just drop it on YouTube right now. Whatever Patreon money you made, drop it on YouTube. I think with Boosie also, and I don't know if I mentioned this, but my other interviews, is that when me and him first started talking, the first thing he started saying was, all these people are telling me that they're going to cancel their membership if I don't come back. All your members are going to cancel.

50:18and uh you know this is almost the equivalent of a look at these comments right just because a few people dm'd you doesn't mean that that's really going to happen because our membership has been fine yeah let's just let's just put it out there our membership i think it's even gone up a little bit and the membership thing is always a sort of ebb and a flow it's an ebb and a flow no one person will obliterate a membership. And I think that Boosie felt that because all these people are telling him that they can't answer a membership, that if he starts his own, they'll jump to his membership. So here's Vlad with over 10 ,000 members.

50:59All 10 ,000 are going to go to him and he'll make $60 ,000 on this interview. Remember you said, I'll make more money than you know? Yeah, the idea that he was going to make more doing his own interview to me he said i'm gonna make more money doing it doing it this way i'm looking at this going like i don't not initially yeah and uh i think he thought that people are gonna jump but the thing about boosie is that outside outside of streams he doesn't really push a digital product he pushes more of a physical service right the performance right or the interview or whatever else. So pushing viewers, especially ones that are going to spend money, to a new paid platform is not easy.

51:47I tried Patreon and I gave up. I said, this is a waste of my time. I'm having to constantly push people to this platform. There's no organic growth. I might as well keep everyone on YouTube and Spotify. i'm way more of a fan of the membership thing like i watch people as members only content on youtube all the time whereas like i've been a member of trap loross's patreon for the last few years but even when it's a video where i would like to see the uncensored version of it i don't usually like bother to go over to patreon because i'm watching youtube on my tv most of the time yeah and it's just kind of a pain in the ass to the functionality of the patreon app is not going to be as good as the YouTube ones.

52:31I honestly think Patreon will just go away after a while. They have no reason to exist. They have no reason to exist because you can get the exact same service on all the other platforms now, and they do a better job. It's just the fact that certain places like Joe Budden's Patreon, people are used to that. Joe Budden, if you establish that, I get it. If you put in that work, listen, there's people that still 99 % of their revenue comes from Facebook. because they are huge on Facebook and non-existent everywhere else. But for everyone else, starting a new platform, starting a new business on Patreon, I think is a little stupid.

53:10Did I ever tell you about the deal they offered me? Yeah. I've seen you talk about it. Yeah. It was offensive. Yeah, Patreon offered me the absolute worst deal offer in all my years. I think they know they had a huge valuation during COVID and then they've just been trickling off ever since right because it's like every other platform has the same functionality on twitch youtube twitter spot instagram yeah every different platform has a tier in which you can pay five bucks a month ten bucks a month and get bonus content yeah there you have it so so why go to this this platform that doesn't push you that doesn't do anything else doesn't do anything else on youtube it's like listen i will be scrolling through youtube watching a video and it'll be suggesting a members only vlad tv piece of content from three years ago do i click it not that much but it's like reminding people that like hey there's members only content out there whereas with patreon you got to go there nobody's going there unless they already know what they want there yeah listen if boosie boosie has a youtube channel i think it's like 350 000 uh members or subscribers i mean yeah yeah yo just put it on there put it out right some of the clips will go viral and people know about the channel i could see it growing to a million in a relatively short period of time uh i mean if he's gonna do anything he needs to do more like your business model which is leak the clips out bit by bit and then have the paid version on patreon or have the paid version on the youtube membership yeah look but boosie can call me up and say yo can you help me build up my channel and i'll totally do it man I'm not a hater.

54:49I'm not jealous of anyone. I'm appreciative for the work that we've all done together, and I'll gladly help them to go in a different direction if that's what they want to do. I'll be fine over here. Vlad TV is fine. And what's crazy is I went on ChatGPT, and I said, how much money will Vlad TV YouTube channel make year by year in the next 20 years if I stop uploading content right now. And this is what I made last year. And it was kind of an impressive number. Yeah, I don't know if it's true or not, right? Because ChatGPT will just straight up lie to you with a confident tone. But I'm like, hmm.

55:35And they're like, well, because it's really a library more so than just current events and so forth. And I'm like, okay, this is like, at one point I may just turn into a catalog company. you know if i just don't feel like doing interviews anymore but it's and even if if i drop that tomorrow it's like well there's still going to be this company that uploads our content to snapchat facebook maybe start just doing like flashback type content on youtube and twitter and instagram and whatever it's like yeah even if we were to just completely cease making content there's still be value to be derived from all this shout out to dean lemon yeah you know he's done a good job uh by the way shout out to chico for the earrings man uh you know uh i went with earrings recently oh okay that's a new look okay yeah think about it yeah yeah uh my man deal hugley he gave me some cartier earrings uh which i wore i've been wearing recently and then chico gave me these nice uh so i'm just kind of getting to the whole earring and diamond thing for the first time like i've never been in i've never owned diamonds before yeah me neither so it's a new thing for me but yeah man um what were we talking about okay my my last thing that i'll say about the whole boozy thing and this is what i think is so funny about it is that whether his channel his patreon slash interview series like two two different scenarios let's say it does terrible and he just stops doing it or let's say it does extremely well and he starts making six figures a year off of it either way the next logical step for him is to go do another vlad interview because everybody else who does vlad interviews almost like almost every single one of your reoccurring guests has their own youtube channel and they create content in some way whether it's them talking about current events or making vlogs or skits or whatever the f*** it is even if he kills it doing his own content it would still make sense for him to do a couple of Vlad interviews per year if he really wanted to profit maximize and you are not somebody that's like oh you make videos on your own channel or you do interviews over on this platform so therefore I don't want anything to do with you if Boosie had said hey Vlad I'm gonna keep doing your platform but then I'm also going to do my own YouTube series.

57:56You would have said, sure. Or what we could do is he could do my platform and I could do his. Right? If everyone got a platform, then why don't we just do it that way and no money will change hands. And we could just keep promoting each other's platforms and we could all make money together. I'm open for all this, man. you know Sean Prez and Nicholas Irving they have a podcast that is now weekly on Vlad TV that I'm not involved with at all I don't see what people like about that guy well he knows the military shit more than pretty much anyone else he just comes up like such a dickhead shout out to Nicholas Irving this dude is mentally scarred why do I want to listen to this jarhead weirdo talk about this shit listen He's the worst thing going on on the platform.

58:48If you want beef with Nicholas Irving, that's on you. All right? This guy really did kill a lot of people in real life. So, you know. He was doing his job. Come on. He can do his job again. Yeah. I mean, you are not. You may not be off work. You're not King Vaughn. King Vaughn was doing it for the love of the game. You were a guy with a job. Come on, bro. That's funny. That's funny. He was doing it for the love of the game. Yeah. I mean, King Vaughn has something to prove. This guy's like a manager at Sears. Yeah, no. You got to do what you got to do. okay um all right so you finally interviewed my boy c-mac yeah how did that come together and what was your impression of him uh his the girl um what's her name that manages him lupe lupe i believe she reached out to us ah and uh we said sure and he came in and the day of the interview I come to find out that one of my employees had forgotten to book my security.

59:51So I had to scramble and find another security person because I didn't know really what he was going to be about. Understandable. Understandable. So I hit up WAC and he brought me, was it Christopher Lovejoy? Right. Which is pretty hilarious, which you didn't know about their connection. I had no idea that the security, I've never heard of Christopher Lovejoy's name before. I've never met him before or even heard of him, but Wack is recommending him. So I'm like, cool. He's available. I need security. He comes in. So we're waiting. He arrives. And I heard this kind of hoopla that's happening outside the door.

1:00:35So I'm like, what the fuck? so I go out there and I guess Lupe was like yo what's he doing here you know we don't f*** with him and like Crip Mac is walking back to the car getting into the car right and I'm like I don't know what's happening right now so he's like oh you know he he owes us money and he like got his took his Instagram or something and I'm like listen I don't know I have no idea. Like, why'd you book him? And I'm like, I have no idea what's happening right now. And he's, Christopher was like, yo, C-Mac, I stole from you? Like, seriously, like you're saying I stole from you? You know that's not true.

1:01:20And Crip Mac, you know, so I'm like, look, would it make you feel better if he waited outside and we just did it with just me and Crip Mac just in the room by ourselves? And at that point, things kind of calmed down a little bit. and was he in the room? I don't know if he was in the room or not. He may have just been, I think I had him outside. Okay. Outside the room and me and Crip Mac were just in the room by ourselves. And I believe afterwards they kind of talked and they kind of worked out. They took a photo together. Right, yeah. Which that was what I thought was funny and that's what I called Crip Mac out on.

1:01:53I'm like, how are you going to take a photo with this dude and then as soon as you get back on the jumper you're talking shit about him like you weren't just in his face. Oh, is that what happened? Yeah, he just started talking shit about him right away, right after, yeah. Okay, well listen, Listen, Crip Mac, I can tell you I did not set you up. I did not backdoor you. Honestly, because I saw that dialogue happening a little bit on the internet where it seemed like I purposely set him up or something like that. Right. I honestly, listen, do you believe me? Oh, I believe you because I know that you probably weren't as tuned in to the Crip Mac lore to even know that he had issues with Christopher Lovejoy.

1:02:27But then also - More than I know Christopher Lovejoy. Right. But as soon as I heard that Wack was the one who supplied the security - Oh, you think, wait, do what? Are you saying Wack back toward me? He did this on purpose? Okay, so that's the question. What? Did Wack know that you were asking for security for a Crip Mac interview? Let's find out. Hold on. Because I think I asked Wack this, and he basically said that he didn't know. Wait, wait, wait, wait. There's an easy way to find this out. Was Wack being funny by doing this? Hold on a second. We got to make sure Wack doesn't filibuster this episode.

1:02:57We'll be here for an extra hour and a half. Hold on. I don't think... Hold on, because I told him about the Jap 5 interview. The Jap 5 interview. And Christopher Lovejoy wasn't the security for the Jap 5 interview, right? He was. He was. He was. That's pretty hilarious on its own right, too. Yeah. Because he's... Okay, Christopher Lovejoy is from Rolling 60 Crit. Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Okay, now I got it. Okay. Now I know what happened. Okay, right. Because I was trying to figure out the timeline of this. Jap 5 happened and C-Mac happened, right? Okay. Right. So Jap 5 was the interview that we needed security last minute.

1:03:39Got it. Right? That was that interview that we needed last minute. And then we ended up booking Christopher Lovejoy for that interview. Right. And I think for the Crip Mac, I think that my regular guy was not available. So I just said, okay, go with Christopher Lovejoy. Right. Oh, so Wack didn't volunteer him for that. No, Wack was not involved. Because I already had the relationship with Lovejoy at that point. Because I thought that Wack did not. Yeah, so Wack did not. I thought Wack pulled one of the funnier moves I've ever heard of by making CritMax Op be the security. No, no, no, no, no. That was all us, but I had no idea.

1:04:19Right. I had absolutely no idea. Pretty hilarious. Even if it was accidental, it's still pretty amazing. You know, just security is supposed to be kind of neutral and instead it's the guy that like is officiating the paperwork in your deal but what uh what was your impression of crit mac because it's not often that i see you do an interview with somebody who's that unserious because crit mac is really in your interview in particular he's having a grand old time he's making all kinds of noises and just being super animated yeah look he's a pure character yeah you know people say oh he's a character now crit back is a character yeah and uh i think that you take that and he admitted that he had some level of mental illness and so forth like we talked about that you know on medication and so forth so you kind of combine those two you got someone with some mental illness who's willing to go all out with it.

1:05:26And is willing to do pretty much anything. He got knocked out again recently. Yeah, at the Creators Inc. house. He did a boxing match with some guy. And the guy took him out. Yeah, this is after Dean the Great, I think, knocked him out. The Dean the Great thing was another one. These are all body shots, too, I think. Were they? I don't think either of these were to the face. But the thing is, is that I feel like he's totally cool with it. Yeah. This is on brand with him. Yeah, he gets knocked out. You know, he even said that Jap 5 knocked him out. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. But him losing fights publicly on camera is kind of a new thing because for a long time you just heard about Kribmak and you just thought that he was just this crazy brawler.

1:06:06And then more recently you see the Dean the Great situation and then you see this other situation. And what sucks is that we had, I think, 20K or something, 25K being offered for him to do brand risk. and he just kind of turned it down. And then meanwhile, he hops on stream and he's getting beat up by people for free. I don't really understand that. Well, he's getting beat up by professional fighters. I know, but if he fought, it would probably be, if he did a boxing match, it might not be a professional fighter. But, okay, Dean the Great is a professional fighter, but he's 100 pounds less than Krip Mac.

1:06:39Still a professional fighter. I know, but I'm saying, you got one guy who's 130 and one guy who's 230. Still someone that actually trains. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To actually do this as opposed to just getting into an occasional fight. But normally, you know, you wouldn't really. Like the idea of a 130-pound boxer versus a 230-pound boxer. Like we've never seen it. That would not be allowed. Yeah. If I was Krip Mac, I would have just jumped on him. Yeah. That would turn into a wrestling match. The funniest part about it is that Krip Mac didn't know that Dean the Great was a boxer. Well, he found out.

1:07:10Because he met him with me and Lena. So he assumed that he was a porn star. Okay. Isn't that funny? He thought he had to be a porn star. which makes sense because we never mentioned that he was a boxer and then all of a sudden dean's like hey let's do the stream we're gonna box and then he just bow hits him in this crazy body shot and lays his ass out he's actually mad at me right now kirk max mad at me you tell me if this is a valid reason for him to be mad at me his his baby mama who he's constantly fighting with she posted a bunch of text messages from him on her story in which he basically he says he's got four touchdowns and he might get another one a touchdown in his world is a body i mean that's kind of what's being implied in the screenshots and uh we reacted to it on stream we just like read it and like talked about it didn't really take it super serious it's not like we're doing forensics to find out if it's true or not but he's upset about us reading this there was a reddit thread about it and so we reacted to it and i told him i'm like listen like nobody could ever prove that you sent those texts besides maybe if the cops like got into her phone oh it could be proven what are you talking about right okay it could absolutely be proof but it's like from a what is my outsider perspective what are you talking but nobody could ever prove that what you're saying is true message okay but okay the cops could prove that it actually happened but i'm saying like it's not like anybody could ever prove that that's even actually what you're saying yeah i don't know and it's like my whole thing is it's like it's out there dude like it was a viral reddit post like how are we not going to react to it well i think some people feel that if they rock with you that you won't push you know amplify the narrative right i think that's what it is and i've had problems with people doing that this is why we really don't do the news site anymore right because a lot of problems got caused from you know me just writing stories about people that we work with and sometimes you don't even know that they're mad at you yeah you just find out years later when you know they tell you or they finally do an interview and whatever that was with um what was the name of that one dude from baltimore Ant Glizzy?

1:09:31No. Wale? He was in Peso the Mafia. Peso the Mafia? Help me out here. Shorty Shorty. Oh, Shorty Shorty, yes. So I did an interview with Shorty Shorty, and I had heard that he was mad at me before the interview, but he was still going to do it. So the first thing I did was talk to him before the interview and say, what exactly are you mad about? and it was, I'd interviewed Pace with the mafia and then we reported a story about like a chain snatching or something and he said that that was like a really serious situation. He was really mad at me reporting that and I'd actually dig it up and figure out what, you know, what it really was because it was so long ago.

1:10:19I've had beefs like this, like me and Lil Pump didn't speak for three or four years because he was mad about something that the news page posted about him, which by the time we got back cool he didn't even remember what it said right and i never even knew that that's what it was about i thought he had to be mad at me about something i said on the podcast which i felt like i always yeah kind of went out of my way to use the kid gloves with you so i was shocked and that's happened to me with a lot of rappers yeah it comes to the business it comes to business people get mad at you and then people get over it right yeah no definitely line um you had a Nicki Minaj tweet yeah that went crazy in which you were hypothesizing that her husband via the sex offender registry had seemingly like moved back to New York and was no longer staying in her mansion and I understand that the barbs flipped out and that you may have deleted the original tweet yeah because when i looked at it and i thought about it i am putting this guy's address out there now that's very different i wasn't trying to dox him right uh but your name once you're registered sex offender your address where you live is now supposed to be in the public because people don't want their kids people want to know if there's a registered sex offender in that area.

1:11:50Yeah. So they can be careful with their children, right? That's just the nature of him being in that position. Right. And what I said was, and I actually looked on the website, and I did a whole screen capture and everything else like that, and I'm like, wow, this guy really is living in an 800-square-foot house in Jamaica, Queens right now. Uh-huh. And someone replied said, oh, Nikki and they're just staying in New York for a while. And I'm like, at that house? At that house, yeah. At that house? It's 800 square feet. It's in Jamaica. Like, Jamaica, Queens. Right. Nikki would not be staying there.

1:12:31Nikki and the kid? Yeah. Really? Definitely not. Definitely not. Safe for her, yeah. No. So you're talking about going from a$20 million house to an 800 square foot spot in the hood. It seems like they're not together. The rumor was that he had gotten a girl pregnant. But I said that's just a rumor. I have no idea if that happened. But I could see that being a reason. Right? You could see Nikki drawing the line with that. Right. Because that's going to be a lot of public embarrassment if he gets out. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, like, wow, you're a husband who does nothing. literally does nothing that we know of literally hangs out on the couch all day hangs out and takes care of the kid probably the only thing we've ever seen him do is threaten people outside of an award show right that's his job he threatens people outside of award shows besides that there's an award show coming out all right Kenneth start threatening people let's get on live right that's all he does he's not her manager he is not it seemed like safari played more of an active role in nikki's career oh he's a writer he was dancing on stage yeah people didn't even know that i did a whole documentary about him at one point but yeah he was yeah yeah but he was he was there like i remember when i interviewed him like i was talking about how my favorite nikki song was bees in the trap he said yeah i remember convincing her to go with that beat she didn't like the beat and i kept trying like oh just try I'd be trying, you know.

1:14:01So my favorite song had his collaboration on it. I don't know if that's the kind of relationship they have with her, you know, her current husband. No sign that he has musical talent. No, yeah. No sign that, yeah. Like Safari went on to make songs and, you know, somewhat. Yeah, a little bit of star power one way or another, yeah. A little bit, right. So, you know, he was in a rap group with her. Kenneth, I believe, was just her high school boyfriend who managed to. Street guy. Yeah. managed to show up at the right time when she was between relationships and needed someone in her life i assume and but him living there like you have to they can't say oh her house got doxxed so they're just using that address no no that is his physical address in fact he got arrested when he moved to california without telling the sex offender registry that he can't move remember there was that whole problem this is serious so i guess the thing that kind of shocked me a little bit is that uh wouldn't the barbs be happy because this has always been the thorn and nikki side like this guy and her brother like wouldn't they be like all right this guy's out of here great thank you vlad right nope did not get that it feels like all of the normal rules of the universe kind of go out of the window when it comes to nikki because you would have thought like okay if Sabrina Carpenter or Taylor Swift came out as hardcore Donald Trump MAGA supporters right now, I would assume that while they might pick up some fans from the other side of the aisle, that like maybe like 70 % of Taylor Swift's fan base would run for the hills.

1:15:40Just because, you know. I don't know about that. And she's not overtly political. But I don't know about that. I think she's built up an audience of women and gay men, etc. who the barbs are, that you would think that they would relinquish their fandom to some extent. And the fact that that hasn't really happened with Nicki Minaj makes you think that her fans are really kind of willing to suspend reality. Well, she has no Instagram. She took it down. Nicki. Yeah. Yeah. I think she's going through some shit. Let's be real. She's not in a great place in her life right now. Yeah. I think they showed her performance.

1:16:18She seemed a little heavier. Yeah. So she might be stressed. Man, listen. I think she's extremely careful about how you see her body as well. Cause I personally feel like she's got a Mariah mills style body at this point. Yeah. Zion. You sick. I think if you were to see her just standing there naked, you would be displeased. Yeah. I don't know. I think they have to do a lot of work to pose her in such a way that she looks good on camera. Cause I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. So, you know, at one point, remember, she put very little albino dick. Oh, yeah. V-L-A-D. Bars. We're going to put that in your tombstone.

1:17:01Bars. Yeah. Now, I've never had sex with Nicki Minaj, so I don't know how she would have seen my dick. But, yeah. She might have just kind of assed around. I don't know. Assed around about the dick. I mean, you do get around a little bit. Yeah, you know. It's not little, though. You know what I mean? I do my thing. Well, we're going to have to defer to Nicki on that. Yeah. Yeah. but um you know i don't i don't have a ray j body count but my body count probably if not four digits close to the four digits you know really yeah i think so that's pretty intense honestly like i feel like i'm probably a thousand but that's like doing it on camera yeah that's impressive yeah maybe yeah maybe not that yeah high hundreds okay high Right.

1:17:44Yeah. I mean. But yeah. But Nikki, I don't know. Look, Nikki, you are not the first boss chick who's had their man have a side baby on him. Right. All right. Listen, you see it all the time. I know that everyone from the outside is like he fumbled the biggest bag that he's ever had, which is the absolute truth. but you don't know what life is like in that family? Imagine being her boyfriend. Oh, my God. I could not. Listen, I heard stories. I know someone who knew Safari, and he used to tell her that Nikki would just scream at him in public places and stuff like that, like at the nail salon. Bro, if you watch, there's little compilations of all the times that she was rude to him on camera that are brutal, and that's just on camera.

1:18:41I can't even imagine. Imagine when the doors are closed. That's probably a very abusive relationship. Hell yeah. So you got this guy who's, you know, he caught a body at one point, right? Kenneth Petty? Did he kill someone or did he just rape someone? Well, there was that, but I believe that, did he kill someone at one point? I thought it was just a rape. Hold on, let's look it up. Let's just look it up because I don't want to put that out there. No, yeah. I forgot the exact word. Did Nicki Minaj's husband kill someone? Yeah. He had a homicide case in 2002. The fatal shooting of a man named Lamont Robinson pled guilty to first-degree manslaughter.

1:19:19Yeah, yeah. So he killed somebody. He caught a body. Dude, having a rape and a body on your jacket is pretty wild. It means you can't get a job. Those are kind of like the two big crimes. He's probably never worked, right? That's my assumption. If he did, it was probably here and there. I don't think he was a career 9-to-5 guy. Definitely not. So, yeah, he's going to have some problems now in terms of income stream. But imagine being that type of guy. And I remember I brought this up to Tony Yeo, and it was like, oh, no, we know Zoo in Queens. He official. See, I mean, the fact that Tony Yeo said that says a lot.

1:19:57Tony Yeo is saying that Kenneth Petty, a.k.a. Zoo, is official. so you got a dude who's like that who's getting screamed at by a woman every day like imagine imagine that yeah it might make you go and okay listen let me get a side chick just because this is you know I think a lot of men understand this particular situation they get a side chick and you know you become close to that side chick next thing you know she's pregnant and she wants to keep it yeah and there you have it is it his fault is it Nikki's fault or is it just the whole dynamic of the relationship? Nikki, lots of people are in this situation right now.

1:20:39And some people keep that baby quiet. Some people say, all right, we're going to break up. Or some people say, fuck it, he had a side baby and I'm still going to stay with him. See, I think that's what would, when she worked that out in her head, like I have to tell the world that my bum-ass husband had a side baby and I'm still with him. Yeah. I think the Barb's would just be very disappointed in that. Yeah, that feels like one thing that I don't know how they would tolerate or justify that. That right there. Yeah. Like I'm staying with my husband who had a side baby. Now who cheated. Right. Because cheating, I think, is relatively common.

1:21:18I mean, cheating, you can have some discretion about it. You're not bringing an extra life into the world. That's such a different level. Right. Right. Their son now is going to have another sibling. What's his name? Papa Bear? Yeah. I think that's what she calls her baby. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, but I think that that was like, go the fuck back to Queens. Now, what he should do. He's on timeout. He's on timeout. Here's what he should do. He should go get an apartment like in Woodland Hills and ask for child support. Go to the court, ask for custody, as he should, as a father. And honestly, Kenneth, if you're listening to this.

1:22:05Vlad will help you through this.

1:22:09You have the right to be even, now the registered sex defender thing might complicate things a little bit. But I believe if you have a child, you could be with your child, right? I would assume. Right, because he's been with this kid, even married or not. Even if it's divorced, he should get custody of his child and Nikki should pay child support. Yeah. You are going to be good for how old is that kid? Like maybe five or six? Something like that probably. Right. For the next 13 years, you're about to get a bag. You're about to get a big bag. I know she probably gave you a few dollars to tell you to shut up and maybe things will work out.

1:22:46She's going to keep stalling that out. And you know what you do? Get a bag. Once you get that bag, you move your ass down to Florida and you hit the casino every day with Offset. who also apparently from my perspective is gambling all of the money that he got out of cardi b on a daily basis at the casino uh yeah me and offset texted actually because of because of a your boy poetic flaco really yeah well because flaco had written a story about something i said but he said it a little bit wrong. Right? It was about, it was a story I said about Offset where I had heard from someone in AP that he had gotten a couple watches from AP.

1:23:32When you get them from AP, you're not supposed to sell them because they are worth a lot more. You know, you have to be on waiting lists and so forth. So he had gotten these watches and he flipped them right away and the guy got fired. The guy I had been dealing with got fired because that was a story I heard. Okay. Right? so flaco had reported on it had made a post on it but he kind of got some of the details wrong so i i commented like i commented about it and said actually what happened was blah blah blah blah so offset hit me and was like hey man stop talking about me on these small blogs i said what do you mean small blogs and he actually sent me a screen capture of the flaco thing that's such like a prehistoric request at this point like stop talking about me on blogs like I'm DJ Vlad like I'm not your homie from the block I'm gonna talk about you be serious listen and I was like well this story I heard he goes oh I never bought anything from AP and I'm like alright well if you're denying the story then I'll stop talking about it I'm only talking about it to just give you the background you know he's saying that didn't happen if he's saying it didn't happen then whatever I'm not gonna keep running this narrative but I'm like well since we since we're talking let's lock in and do it because we've done interviews before But a long time ago.

1:24:43A long time ago. Yeah. Like 10 years ago. What was his reaction to that? He said 200K. I said, there's no one on earth that would pay you 200K. Yeah. That's a polite way of saying it. He goes, yo, man, I'm trying to CNN interviews. I said, CNN's not paying you 200K. CNN's not paying you anything, actually. He's like, I'll do it for 150. And I said, what about 10? Yeah. In my mind, I'm thinking, well, that's the money you owe, TJ. So you could just kind of pass it along. And he said, no, hard pass. I'm not one of these little rappers. And I'm like, all right, that's cool. But then meanwhile, I know a guy, Andy, who owns Creators Inc., which is like an OnlyFans agency.

1:25:22And he got off set to sit down, presumably for free. Well, I told him. I said, this guy, because he had that new interview. I said, it was Creators Inc., right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so I said, Creators Inc., pay you$150? And he kind of talked around the answer. He said, well, it's something, something, something. And I'm like, exactly. I'm just paying you$150. Yeah. Like nobody. Nobody. Yeah. 150 is outrageous. No one on Earth. Almost nobody on Earth is worth 150. Who's worth 150? Who would you pay 150 for right now for 150 right now? You could have anyone on Earth for 150. One person. Well, I don't feel like I could make it back if I got a four-hour Jay-Z interview.

1:26:05I'm trying to think of the rarest rapper. And obviously he's done a little bit. Go pick the rappers. world leaders? I mean, you used to say it about OJ, which... Yeah, I had 100 for OJ. If he really divulged everything, I guess I could see it with OJ if he had done that. But even when it comes to politics, world leaders, Donald Trump's not worth 150. He's done too much media already. What about Putin? Okay, that would be cool. Me and Putin sitting down? Yeah, I'd pay that. But you guys are so similar. You'd probably just vibe the whole time. Yeah. Two vlads in the same room. spider-man meme by the way have you seen have you seen my memes man i'd say the friday one you sent me now there's more oh okay there's more hold on i've entered the meme era now

1:26:57oh my god these are on vlad's uh instagram for the record yeah right this is the the vlanos the Boosie fade Vlad when I interviewed Boosie back in the day somebody actually made me a shirt of me with a Boosie fade and I wore it during the Boosie interview wow okay he looked more than a little confused when he saw it yeah Y &W Vladdy there it is okay you look good with dreads yeah oh they're putting a wire on you wow I got a lot of good memes here okay yeah damn they went hard yeah no i've entered the meme era man i've been i've been memed a long last but that's what's funny is that you've been around for so long that it feels like even some people who hated you or would be predisposed to not liking you you just kind of have to accept that somebody exists at a certain point like i've seen some of the liberal people that i follow as the years go by as much as they hate trump trump is kind of like undeniably funny and undeniably part of our culture to the point where i can see them posting memes that are sort of they're not filled with malice towards trump because they've just kind of grown to accept him as part of our country and it feels like that's almost a corner that some people have turned with you did you see the uh the clay the clay uh trump meme no hold on by the way i agree with the the girl who said that nobody knew who that was until she started to make the saying because i didn't know who it was i found out about who this person was this week so okay that's clay thompson i don't get this at all for the record he he survived megan like these are all the manga survivors.

1:28:47And look, you can kind of see G-Eazy, like his hair in the background. What? Yeah. That's insane. That's like the AI didn't do its job fully. Like you were supposed to have it be a little bit more visible. But still, it's like his hair in the background. That's like a real famous basketball player because I didn't even know who he was until the Meg thing. I mean, yeah. I mean, he was on the Warriors for, you know, a bunch of the key years. He's got rings. Right. Yeah. do you think that aside from all the bullshit and everything that if you and Meg decided we're to go on a date that you'd be able to win her over me?

1:29:22yeah you think she'd be feeling DJ Vlad by the end of it? I agree yeah I think so she'd probably end the date early to pull you back to the hotel room and yank your pants down who knows I can see it now but when you look at women I've dealt with you got a few Meg the Stallions I've had a few Meg the Stallions yeah I've had a few Megs yeah absolutely 100 % that's kind of you know my overall type that's why I think yeah I think we would vibe Future said he takes down Meg the Stallions by the crew yeah maybe that's Future take down a whole crew of Megs yeah damn that's Future I'm trying to get on the Future yeah sounds like a pretty good night you put all my Megs together over the years I got a nice big crew of Megs I love it yeah but I was gonna say with this whole Meg thing I don't know whether Meg watches my stuff or not I've never heard any connection between me and Meg but my suggestion to her is that if she really wants to have a serious relationship which is what I feel that she wants is to just keep it quiet like you don't have to put it out there I feel like she's she's not done with the partying part of her life.

1:30:40Like, I don't think she's going to be able to find her way into a nice, healthy, long-term relationship until she stops getting wasted. Oh, you think that's what it is? Yeah. I don't know. I mean, but look, she was parading the relationship literally all over social media and saying how great it is. And then suddenly it was really bad. Oh, you're mentally abusive to me after games and had me playing house and blah, blah, blah, blah. but you were happy a month ago on Instagram. Now you got to explain. I've decided to part. Like that's so lame. Yeah. That's so lame. Just keep it quiet and let people's, because look, you could have had a whole relationship with him and broken up with him quietly without anybody even knowing without anyone even knowing.

1:31:26Right. Without all this extra shit. Yeah. Now you got memes and everything else like that. That's one thing you say about me and you is that any and all relationship drama now obviously i have the performative aspect of my relationship with the porn stuff but me and my girl have never fought in the public eye ever yeah that'd be horrible like you and lena like in the middle of the street screaming at each other yeah you know the car is like doors open and people are filming it oh i hate the worst feeling is when you're getting into a little fight with your girl and your kids are there and with us we don't let it get too bad but there's definitely been times where we're raising our voices to each other and my kid will just interject and be like hey guys you guys are supposed to be nice to each other like she's at the perfect days to just be kind of cute about it and kind of take the tension off of it but uh like i see fights of people like where they're really performing in the streets they're like really raising their voices and screaming at disneyland and i'm like I never want to get to this point.

1:32:29Yeah. Yeah, man. Y 'all seem to have a cool relationship. Yeah. Regardless of what people say. I've noticed that she's done more solo male scenes. She's been stacking up a few because she's kind of decided that her time in the porn industry may be coming to an end very soon. Right. I've seen that one white dude. J-Mac. The J-Mac? The kind of buff dude. Johnny Sins also. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. It went by my timeline. I can't really watch y 'all scenes because I know you. So you can watch somebody else? I don't watch those either. Okay. Like I'll skim through it. Like, cause if the interview is about it, just so I could see, you know, sort of what it's about, but I don't like watch them, watch them the way I watch porn.

1:33:13Right. See what I'm saying? So Charlamagne signed a deal along with a bunch of other podcasts associated with iHeart where they went over to Netflix. and now they are very limited in what they can post to their YouTube channel. I think The Breakfast Club is limited to five-minute clips. Rory and Maul, same deal. Fat Joe and Jada, their show. When you see these podcasts going to Netflix, as somebody who's an OG in the space who probably never thought that we would get to the point of seeing these giant corporations wanting to make money off a podcast, when you see that, what do you think? I think that it sounds really good in theory because Netflix is a monster, right?

1:33:57You're essentially on the world's biggest premium video service on the planet, right? So I think it sounds great. And I think everyone aspires to be on Netflix. That's the thing, right? People don't say, oh, I want to be in a movie. They say, I want to be on Netflix. It had a lot of prestige. It's got a lot of prestige and it still does. And it still does. So I think in theory it sounded really, really good and it was probably a big check.

1:34:28And I think that people are going to take big checks when they're put in their face like that because maybe it's an amount of money that it would take them a long time to earn back if they stayed on the YouTube route. And now they got to live with it. Right. essentially if they if you take that check and you really take your stuff off of the biggest platform you're on i'm sure they're aware of the repercussions of it and now they're having to deal with it and i don't know how it's going to work out maybe it'll become so popular on netflix that the youtube shit doesn't matter yeah or maybe netflix listen at the end of the day is i mean do people watch um these podcasts on netflix i know myself personally as a paying netflix netflix subscriber that never have i even thought about doing it but that being said breakfast club rory mall fat joe and jada podcast that i'll watch a clip from for sure i'll watch like a 10 minute clip if i see something that seems notable but i have never been a consistent viewer of any of these podcasts and especially breakfast club it's like they get big guests so sometimes when i'm doing research prep for an interview or whatever i have to go watch a breakfast club interviewer but i don't really know anyone who's like a hardcore breakfast club viewer now i bet those people are out there but i would think that the joe button podcast or the joe rogan podcast would have a better time going to netflix than yeah charlam i don't know man i'm sure there's probably some big checks yeah and i think it was an iheart deal as a whole so it's like they're all kind of yeah yeah i don't know and Maybe iHeart said, we really don't give a fuck.

1:36:13If you guys want your stuff on YouTube, this is what we're doing because this makes the most financial sense to our shareholders. And y 'all could complain about it if you want, but this is what's happening. And that's that. I don't know. Do you want – it's always a balancing act with this shit, right? I got some stuff in the works with some of these big companies. And I know that once that stuff comes out, I'm not going to own it. I'm not going to be able to put it on YouTube. That's going to be their shit. Oh, you're still working on that. Yeah, still working on that. I remember that. Okay, nice.

1:36:51Yeah, I'm not going to announce it yet because it hasn't been officially announced. But that's moving along. Yeah, it's moving along. Yeah, the things are moving along in that regard. But I know that it's going to be owned by someone else, but we're going to have big budgets to do shit that I can't afford to do. Sure. Right? You're talking about millions of dollars is going to get spent. on something that I'm going to be creating that I can't spend millions of dollars into. Because on YouTube, I can't make that back. But that's what they're going through. And you never know, though. Netflix is Netflix.

1:37:25Netflix doesn't just fuck around. There's a lot of analytics behind what they do. And those analytics might lead them to not being as interested in podcasting at some point. Yeah, I'll go back to YouTube. We're good. here's here's a check because this is not so dissimilar to what spotify was doing for a while where they said hey joe budd and joe rogan here's a bunch of money come be exclusive to our platform ultimately for various reasons they both decided that they didn't want to be in that deal in the long run but it's kind of like apple music used to do exclusives with artists where for the first couple days you could only listen to it on their platform ultimately that might have brought a lot lot of people over to Apple music, but it's not really a, an intelligent long-term business decision when Apple music doesn't really need a exclusive.

1:38:15They could get all this content the same time as everybody else. Like the exclusives only matter. Spotify and Apple are both competing on the exclusives. If they both just say, Hey, we're not going to do that. Then they both get it at the same exact time and whatever. But I guess the real question with the whole netflix idea is like if netflix offered you an amount that is crazy because okay there's basically two reasons why we do youtube number one is it's a good business it's money yeah and then number two is it feels good to have a big audience if i were to really really simplify it down getting a million views on a video is a big thrill that even if there was no money involved I would be excited about.

1:38:59Yeah, but on the flip side, if Netflix offered me$100 million, Right. That's the question. Then, all right, where do I sign? Because... I mean, because now if they offer me$10 million, they can kick rocks. But at$100 million, you're like, how long will it take to make that? Right. Off of YouTube and all the other platforms that we do. It would take a while to make that. So they're offering that up front? Fuck it. And because part of it, too, is that it's like, it would suck to lose 90 of your fans but you got that 100 million yeah company but also what level of fan are you really if you're not gonna follow me to this other platform that you almost certainly already pay for that is 10 bucks per month right you know it's like if you're really a big fan of me it shouldn't be that big a deal right right right the quality will stay the same you know you're still you're still on there you still have a membership on both places yeah who doesn't have a netflix account yeah so yeah but that that is the one thing though that stood out to me though is when joe rogan and joe budden went over to spotify spotify has a free tier netflix has a free tier but it doesn't have access to the podcast oh okay so yeah they're trying to see how many people actually sign up yeah yeah everyone signs up and go straight to there they're like okay this makes sense and look who knows which of these podcasts will still be on there next year and it might be a reshuffling for sure my expectation is either they lose interest in the whole thing and we never hear anything about podcasts on there again after these initial deals are done or it's profitable it kind of makes sense but it doesn't make that much sense So Netflix, basically, a couple years from now, we're getting hit up by Netflix reps that are saying, hey, we'll give you 50 % of the ad money if you post your podcast on Netflix as well.

1:41:03And everybody's there. Because that was the whole deal with Spotify is like they get Joe Rogan and Joe Budden, Caller Daddy, whatever, and that brings people over. Maybe you start listening to all your podcasts on Spotify. Well, we're on Tubi now. so that there's a bunch of Vlad TV archival videos. There's like a sports series, a music series. There's going to be like a house and car series. There is a Hollywood series and so forth, and you can watch a bunch of them on Tubi. Do you know how that's doing financially? It's still a little bit slow, but it's making money. It's free money. We're hoping that over time, once it gets kind of into the algorithm, it'll start to grow as we put more content on there.

1:41:45But it's on Tubi. Right. The question is whether it'll really... Okay, so here's the thing, right? Because I've been having conversations with the big streaming companies. What they want is for you to binge watch. Right. They only want to work with series, TV series, which is essentially what a podcast is, right? There's really no difference. It's a series. They want someone to watch episode after episode after episode after episode. And that's why podcasts are great because if you watch a full Joe Budden podcast or Joe Rogan, you're sitting there for three hours uninterrupted. And people are used to doing this.

1:42:27Yeah, but they don't want people that only watch Joe Rogan when certain guests are on. Right. They want to have someone that's all in on Joe Rogan. And probably a lot of Joe Rogan's fans are watching a high percentage. He has that. Yeah. Right. And Joe Budden does a good job of that also. Right. because he's not guest heavy. So people who are creating content like that would be a little better off than someone, for example, like let's say Gillian Wallow that have a different guest every single time. Although they now are doing episodes without guests. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, I have no idea. Which I always thought that was kind of the logical thing for them to do because getting guests, everybody gets guests.

1:43:13and they're good at it. They get big guests, but they used to do something that was more like the Joe Budden podcast where you know Mona, the Don't Call Me White Girl from the Joe Budden podcast. She was part of it. There was a couple other people and they would just have like a group dynamic, which to me, that is the hard thing to build. Yeah, absolutely. That's a challenge versus interviewing someone. There's a lot of people who do decent interviews. Yeah, no, what Joe Budden pulled off, and by the way, thank you to Joe Budden. and Mark Lamont Hill. Kind of getting your back on the air. Yeah, to make that video.

1:43:48And Mark Lamont Hill, I haven't heard him say anything positive about me in like 10 years, right? And to have those dudes actually say, Vlad actually makes a lot of sense here, I was really kind of flattered when that happened. So thank you to the both of them. I won't say anything bad about Mark again. I've said a few things over the years. uh i was kind of surprised to see people having serious conversations about a pure business issue and not turning it into like a weird identity politics thing oh he's a white culture vulture and he doesn't want to pay for the black man you know but this is why i got in front of it yeah because i because that's what was getting painted yeah right and and that's the thing right and that's the thing like that i don't think aries realized was that he was walking into a situation by him taking that stance, he was walking into a bigger situation.

1:44:41And this is why I kind of had to handle it the way I handled it. So, you know, like, well, you kind of blacked out. But I was dealing with a bigger situation here, right? After going through it once and getting in front of it, that I was not going to get this whole, like, I'm exploiting people kind of, you know, story when I really feel that, listen, I pay more than anybody. I paid over a million dollars to guess. I counted it up. Seriously. Like, do you think you paid close to a million? I hope not. But seriously, if you think about it. I don't think so. I think you pay more and more consistently.

1:45:19Right, exactly. If you were to include like everybody who's on the podcast on a weekly basis over the past six years, I guess probably, yeah. To employees in general, or on-camera talent in general. But your business is more, I'm going to get these big stars to do interviews repeatedly. the you know i'm gonna get people that already have a following that already have a fan base that may not be at the height of their career at the time but i i see something in them that that really i think is dope yeah so so you could say right because i predicted like when i did my my whole thing about aries i said and i know you're going to use the racial aspect i know your response you're going to use the racial aspect.

1:46:04That's exactly what he did. Yeah, Vlad needs whatever. He needs more views. He gets black people. I'm like, okay, you're fine with those views when I was paying you, though. But the thing of it is is that I've really paid more consistently to people that I just thought were really dope. And I like the fact that the rest of the world gets to see what I saw years ago. Mm-hmm. I thought Godfrey was dope. Now everyone gets to see it with some of the content that we created. I thought Aerie Spears was dope. Now the world gets to see it. T.K. Kirkland I've always thought was dope. He'd been around already for a long time, but I helped to amplify that because people just agree with what I saw, which was someone that's really good at comedy and the way they break things down and so forth.

1:46:59That's it. you just see the town early and you help amplify that definitely yeah yeah yeah um my model's kind of always been to more like build the host from the ground up but it does tend to work similarly where at some point well actually i feel like the the problem was during COVID in terms of everybody believing in the podcast dream and believing that they could be better off on their own. And now it feels like podcasting is a tougher business than it was in 2022 or 2023. Okay. So, so back on fig, those were all your ex hosts. Yeah. The whole crew. Yeah. Okay. Like maybe eight hosts left all at once in 2023.

1:47:50Okay. Because I wasn't totally familiar with all those guys. Right. But they started a podcast and they made some noise with the podcast. For a while and now it's doing pretty bad, yeah. Is it? Yeah. And why do you think that is? I think none of them were really like A mics. I think that they worked real good as second fiddle to me or whatever. Like somebody like T-Row is like a funny B mic. But then once he went and tried to be the A mic, eventually they lost steam. Because there's a lot that I'm doing that people don't realize. which is that i'm probably like more knowledgeable about what's going on in the overall youtube space paying attention to other people's youtube channels knowing what's going on in the rap game knowing what rappers are popping off on a regional level where a lot of those guys they know about la and they could kind of tell you about like what rappers are coming out in la but they don't really know what the fuck's going on in the whole culture as a whole you know so that they definitely like thought that they had a lot more juice than they had and when they left they were doing like 500k per episode and now they're doing like 20k if that what are they still getting guests uh not really i haven't really seen any good guests in a long time well that's kind of the key to it that's right because i remember they had some guests on their show right it's okay that's the other thing people think i can get all these big guests because they have like four friends that are famous and then once you actually get going you realize like yeah the four friends your four famous friends those are easy they'll do a favor for you right to have a new famous person every week is difficult and takes actual networking for this.

1:49:24Yeah. Like Tony Yayo and Uncle Murda, they have their own podcast. And I could tell they're going through their personal Rolodex. You know, that's how they got like Tracy Morgan. Yeah. They got, what's his name? Paul Rosenberg. Yeah. And I see who they're interviewing and some of the interviews have been maybe a little bit beneath them. And I've been looking at it thinking like, oh shit, maybe I can get on there. Oh, you want to do that show? I mean, yeah, sure. I got Tony Ayo's DM. I guess if I went to New York or whatever. I'll call him. I'll ask him. They'll have you on. Oh, all right. Yeah, absolutely.

1:49:52Maybe I'll pull up on him. Yeah. I always wanted to hang out with Tony Ayo. Oh, really? That's one that I was kind of jealous when you got it because I had been DMing him too over the years. Oh, really? But you actually saw it through. Yeah. Man, listen, that first interview was tense because me and him had a little bit of an online beef leading up to it that never got resolved at that point. So I had my security in there. And that whole shut the fuck up moment. Right. Yeah. There was a little something behind that, right? Right. It was like he said it, and he wasn't like serious, serious, but also it was like had I reacted differently to it, both of us would potentially end up standing up at that point, and who knows?

1:50:33Like I would compare. Okay, Tony. Now we're like friends and joking and all that type of shit, but that first moment wasn't cool. Tony Ayo is the smartest guy from G-Unit, besides 50 obviously, But like Tony Ayo saw what was going on with 50, realized that 50 is a once in a lifetime superstar. Yeah. Realized that he wasn't and realized that he could still have a position in this and that what he would be able to accomplish working with 50 was going to be way better than whatever he could do on his own. which is the total opposite of those dudes that you're talking about who left my podcast where if they had played the Tony Ayo role they would be in a way better situation financially and instead they decided to split off and think that they were 50 cent and they just weren't well yeah if you watch my new interview with the Ayo he agrees with me that what happened with me and Aries happened with young buck yeah I saw that yeah right 50 got this huge vitamin water deal because he invested into the company.

1:51:40They didn't just give it to him. He actually, I think they wanted to pay him to be a spokesman, but instead he took stock in it. And then that company got sold to Coca-Cola and he ended up making like, what,$50 million or something like that? Yeah. And he was the only one that had the ability to invest in that deal. Tony Ayo did not. Lloyd Banks did not. Young Buck did not. and Young Buck got on stage and said, I ain't getting a piece of that, you know, vitamin water money, so I guess I'm going to have to keep hustling. 50 heard that. I was like, okay, you pocket watch it. And I said that was the beginning of the end, and Yeo said yeah.

1:52:21But I thought they fell out before that because Young Buck was just, like, hanging out with 50's ops, like Fat Joe and shit, and taking photos in the club with him. That's the first time I saw, you know, a crack in the armor. Yeah. Yeah. That's the first time I remember seeing it. Look, I mean, regardless of what happened before, people don't want to hear that shit. Yeah. At the end of the day, there's nothing cool about pocket watching. No. Seriously. Nothing positive will come of it. Unless it motivates you to go leave and do your own shit. Yeah. But letting that person know that you're washing their pockets?

1:52:57There's a way to go about it. Name one positive thing that comes from that. Right. Nothing. Nothing. Like, Aerie's saying, now I know that Boosie gets 25. We need to renegotiate.

1:53:15Like, to me, that's not a motivating factor. I don't negotiate based on other people's negotiations. It's based on what we're doing. So, yeah, 50, I think at that point, just said, f*** it. I'm done. I mean, that pocket watching shit is a big part of what led to a lot of the hosts leaving No Jumper in 2023. Really? Yeah, because everybody just kind of started talking. Everybody knew what each other was getting paid. And then you got people with different pay structures. Like, I mean, the irony is like, remember that dude Sharp? he at first was going so viral so much that we ended up working out a deal that was like a split of the profits because he was just doing like a million views plus like over and over and over yeah and the other hosts end up figuring that out because sharp wouldn't shut the fuck up and just kept bragging about it and then what ends up happening is that by the end sharp was actually getting paid way less than those people were getting because he stopped going viral and he stopped like really doing interviews that anybody even gave a shit about so then by the end he goes like like there was like a month where we paid him like 16k because it was like half half of what his interview produced right and then by the end we're paying him like a thousand here's been my philosophy about running a company and having employees and having contractors which is essentially what a aries boosie is right they're contractors just assume that everyone will know each other's rates because people talk right if your strategy is to keep this quiet yeah you're going to lose using that strategy you can advise them to not talk about it but ultimately in the long run you can't even really do that oh yeah people talk right so my thing was like can i if you guys want to talk about publicly i'll start putting these numbers out there and any other regular guest who has a problem.

1:55:20You know, it's funny, right? When I did the, what do you call it? When I did the Aries video, Nicholas Irving, right, who is by far the most dangerous regular guest that we have, right? In terms of like, you know, if I were to, you know, Terrence Gangster-Williams, I'm sure I could go there also. but if there was any person that I would not want to have a real beef with like a real serious potentially violent beef would be Nicholas Irving. He hit me and he said hey Vlad I don't want no smoke. I'm cool with what I'm getting. We can keep rocking the way we rock it. Like I don't want no smoke with you and I'm like damn.

1:56:07This guy got like what 15 bodies? You know and that's what I'm saying like we all joke about it everyone else like terrence was like yo bro i see what you're doing like oh we good let's keep rocking tonight jake yeah we good let's keep rocking right everyone even jake was like yo man i get a lot from being on this show like i get it i see the big picture like yo i've seen the views the followers on my channel go up every time i do your show right like for example i interviewed uh jim keys he's a former ceo of uh 7-eleven and blockbuster so yeah uh We still talk. He's like, I saw a big boost in book sales after doing the show.

1:56:49He's like, thank you so much. I'm like, shit. We try to move the needle. That's cool. That's what I like to do. That's what I like to hear. You know? Yeah. No, definitely. Okay. I feel like I hit nearly everything. But did you see a big bank reaching out trying to get a 6ix9ine interview? Yeah, I saw that. That's interesting. You think 6ix9ine should do it? He'll probably do it. do you think that there's anything for 6ix9ine to gain from doing it because that is a respected atlanta-based hip-hop figure and granted you know 6ix9ine did me and you he's done like you know obviously aiden all these really huge streams but he hasn't really sat down with somebody that's like a black member of the hip-hop community that's like the one thing that still kind of eludes him if he even gives a shit still.

1:57:42I know he wanted to do Gillian Wallow because that was like the real street podcast at one point.

1:57:52But then again, he was in a different position back then. I felt like he was kind of still trying to get his feet back on the ground and people weren't really f***ing with him and stuff like that. It feels like after you interviewed him, somehow he had been cleansed of his sins. Yeah, I think... Do you think that I kind of brought him back into a positive light? You did. It doesn't make that much sense because he just did an interview. But then that interview led to him doing a million other streamers, a million other interviewers. He's on bigger platforms. He's with Aiden Ross. He's doing all this shit.

1:58:26I got a new interview with him coming up. Yeah. You didn't do it yet, though? I haven't done it yet. Got it. You're doing it this weekend? Monday. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I felt it was just something about it that just connected with people. Right. Because you also got to think that who really knew Tekashi's whole story, right? Yeah, people like me and you who are paid to do this type of thing professionally. Yeah. But how many people really, depending on their age, knew how it all started and how it developed into what it did and the aftermath of it. Well, for me personally, I knew his story because I watched three different documentaries about his life.

1:59:11I get it, right? And I was in all of them. It's one thing to watch a documentary that is being done about somebody. It's another thing to have that person actually explain the whole thing from start to finish because the documentary, he's not in any of those documentaries himself. True. See what I'm saying? I mean, that's the one thing I'll give you is that you are very astute about knowing what interviews the culture wants or needs or will be receptive to. And sometimes it's way outside the box of things that might be considered obvious. But with 6ix9ine in particular, it's like he was so in our face COVID era that it was almost hard to even remember that there was a time in which we weren't inundated in 6ix9ine information and you kind of rightly realize it's been a few years.

1:59:58It's like people would be interested in the storyline, and then you got it done. Yeah, and like I had said, I spent the most on that interview that I ever did, but I believe I made the most off that interview that I ever did. So everybody wins, and he'd turn around, and everyone's looking at him, I think, a bit differently. And if he didn't go to jail, I think the momentum would even be bigger now. It's weird when I talk to a rapper, because I still ask rappers once in a while, would you do a song with 6ix9ine, and they all say no. and I wonder when that will break well do you think it matters anymore no no well what about okay so music wise do you think that he could have a big hit song I don't know because it's like as much as his popularity seems like it's kind of came back that hasn't translated into like rapper popularity like where it seems like people want to hear him he's put out a few songs since you did that interview and it didn't really feel like they really did much he did a song with Steve Will Do It where Steve Will Do It was saying and the n-word and they're dissing mr beast that it got removed from youtube the day after it came out yeah but that's just shock value that's not you're not really trying to get a hit song with that type of content right so when is the next gummo coming out gummo just feels like a fever dream like a moment in time fever dream i mean it does it just feels like it was just i don't know we were all just crazy we were all so impressed by his vocal tone and his flow and the beat visuals in retrospect you're like why were we all freaking out about that i don't really it's a good song it is it was hot but it's a good song and i don't know if he could bring that back maybe though yeah i mean i don't know if anyone could bring back something like that yeah because that whole time like this is the same time that little pump and x and juice world and all these guys are huge and he was kind of like oh i'm gonna i'm a soundcloud rapper but i'm the craziest looking soundcloud rapper you ever seen and also i'm on some gangster shit right and hip-hop as a whole was like okay like and you got some popping songs all right we're we're we're down yeah and i'm actually going to get into the actual drama in real life and i'm constantly in the news the mainstream news yeah for these shootings and people getting beat up and robberies and beefs and shit breaking out the airport and this that the third a show was getting shut down and yeah he ruled the hip-hop uh media ecosystem he was the algorithm for a while a hundred percent people forget remember you would look at academics's channel and it would be like 10 videos in a row that was like six nine said this is about trippy red six nine said this is about juice world they were just every day going back and forth but it we didn't have the same fatigue that we have now where rappers beefing with each other you just whatever you kind of move past it pretty quick well yeah now it gets more deadly like the all-star jr situation well not deadly luckily because i'm not gonna say that right people getting shot yeah people you know they're saying ben 10 might be paralyzed yeah i'm hearing everybody say that they're trying to keep it quiet but that he basically is paralyzed yeah he asked for 50 000 interview uh i just said where this is not a serious conversation yeah and uh i already had a jr jr interview was already scheduled and i was actually with your booker mafi who helps book some stuff over here as well and i'm sort of standing near him because i just on the dog face interview and he did your interview the next day and he's looking at his phone and he just goes oh shit and he just points at it and it's just a text from All-Star JR that said I got picked up by the feds, presumably sent by somebody on his team, but that's how I found out, yeah.

2:03:41Yeah, that's how we find out the interview's not happening. Yeah, and by the way— You were mad as fuck for 45 minutes before you found out. You thought you got ghosted again. That's really annoying, yeah. I know you were. That's really annoying. I didn't even have to—I don't know that. I just knew that. No, you knew that. Yeah, you know how it goes. Yeah, I was really annoyed.

2:04:02and there was a rumor that he had flown into California to do the interview. Because I'm seeing everybody say he got picked up on the way to the Vlad interview and I'm already knowing he didn't come out here. Yeah, we had a studio booked in Detroit. I was going to do it remotely. Just never happened. He never showed up to the studio. People are like, well, then how did the fans know where the studio was? And I'm like, he didn't show up to the studio. Yeah. If they knew or not, he didn't show up. If he faces serious charges, which it would appear that he probably is since they arrested him, it's like that song is going to end up looking like a really bad idea.

2:04:37Well, look.

2:04:42You have these situations where a person survives an attempt on their life, and you can't tell them that they're not going to celebrate how they're going to celebrate. And the Ben 10 challenge is f***ed up, but Ben 10 tried to kill him. And the roles are reversed. you have situations like the BTV Savage tragedy that you know he was somewhat braggadocious in our interview and then took a picture standing around the blood like it's fucked up and he gets killed that same day sometimes people just reach breaking points when it comes to this type of shit I mean like imagine if All Star JR they drop the charges and he goes to an NBA Young Boy concert Right.

2:05:38What do you think will happen? Probably bad things. Right. I feel like his fans would probably mobilize. Yeah, probably just the fans. Yeah, you might not even have to deal with the NBA dudes. You're not going to see them. Yeah, I think the fans. Things like YB. It seems like YB kind of has some real hardcore. Like, just like. You think that, I mean, okay, so. YB hasn't even said a word, right? Yeah, exactly. Which is kind of. very YB-ish yeah but usually sometimes it feels like he can't really help himself and he's got to say something although I wouldn't be surprised if the next time you hear a song from him it's got a bar it's got a bar on that I wouldn't be surprised yeah I don't know man yeah who do you think has the craziest fans like the ones that are actually willing to crash out in order you know cause like okay The ones that are literally willing to do jail time or, for example, get their accounts shut down and potentially have real life problems because they're fans of this particular person.

2:06:51I mean, I think Youngboy, because his fans are the aspiring slash wannabe gangsters, whereas I feel like, yes, Playboy Cardi and Kanye have insane fan bases, but they just want to wear all black and just dress cool and have baggy pants. I don't think anyone—I think a much smaller percentage of the Cardi fan base have fantasies about killing for Cardi. Well, but slow down. from what I understand when Nicki's house got swatted it was because of a Cardi a Cardi B oh I'm talking about Playboy Cardi a Playboy Cardi no I'm talking about Cardi well see I would say Nicki Minaj fans but there are a bunch of women and gay dudes so shit they can crash out just like the rest of them just because they don't physically do it yeah I mean they'll tweet and they'll make TikToks but ultimately I think also I feel like did you ever see this article that came out about how Nicki Minaj's Twitter engagement is like mega fake.

2:07:51Really? Yeah, there's a whole big article. You might have to pay for the article, but it's basically like just summarizing how, especially as she entered into this whole right-wing MAGA aspect of her career, that it's hugely botted, which it's done intentionally to make it seem like this was a popular choice on her behalf when I think a larger percentage of her fans are in a state of revolt than she would like for the world to know she doesn't even really tweet though does she she tweets a lot yeah does she a lot she might have not for a while now but oh she's going going through the maga thing though i am blocked by nikki minaj yeah i am blocked officially so actually i don't see her tweets at all but you can still go look but it won't show up in your feed you can't follow yeah but am i gonna go out of my way to look at nikki Minaj's tweets.

2:08:42Do you think her career's over? I think it's probably largely over. Anyone saying that is really just guessing. Yeah. Because she could drop the biggest song of her life tomorrow. I just think her public perception now is pretty bad. Listen, but she's older. What is she? In her 40s right now? How many I mean how many rappers in their 40s outside of well no actually now that i say it on the male side i feel it's kind of easier i mean in her category of being like big mainstream pop star level rappers you got drake kendrick j cole those are all men yeah but that's what i'm saying it's like on her and it's her and then cardi b is a bit younger but similar i think cardi b is bigger than her right now i think so too for sure Right now, Cardi, I think, is way bigger.

2:09:36But then again, Cardi's on tour. She got a new album. Cardi has done a lot to make people like her. And Nicki Minaj has seemingly done almost everything that you could ever imagine doing to make people hate you. It feels almost intentional. She's done everything you could do to be as unlikable as possible. Yeah, I can't really argue with that part. uh nikki does not like me yeah i can guarantee you that i have interviewed her once it was a bit of an awkward interview and uh but but what you're really talking about is music if you talk about music then a song will change all that the thing about music though is that like for people to embrace your music you have to be likable enough that they want to give you a chance i don't know about that and i just feel like she's she's gotten away from that i don't know about that i think a hit song is a hit song like you've had uh who who are some of the like r kelly r kelly is you would clearly say is one of the most unlikable people in music yeah he is in prison right now for underage sex right and i don't think there's a r kelly song that is big enough to become a big hit but he's got a huge catalog though but all they still all songs we loved before we found out about what he was doing on the deal but they still play the songs some places play the songs man listen at a house party in calabasas they were blasting ignition but they ain't playing in church anymore they're not playing what they used to really be playing i believe i can fly i believe it's still played in churches maybe some churches some problematic churches but okay i'll put it like this is a larry david episode right now i went to a wedding in dallas for a super white ass couple that me and my wife know it's like her old personal trainer whatever and we go out there we get on a bus to be shuttled to the wedding and for whatever reason there's one charismatic black guy who's wearing like a bright red glittery suit right and And he takes control of the ox as soon as we get onto the bus.

2:11:53And he starts playing some R. Kelly songs. And even this dude, as he puts on R. Kelly, has to look back at the back of the bus and say, hey, I'm playing R. Kelly. I don't give a fuck. And it's like, I say that to say that even this guy who has the least incentive to add the asterisk possible, when it comes to R. Kelly, even he's adding the asterisk. So, I mean, I don't think that R. Kelly could make a hit song at this point. No, no, he can't make a hit song. Even if he was free. He's in prison. I'm just saying that he's a major artist that's very unlikable. He's got a bunch of huge songs, even right now.

2:12:33I believe I could fly probably against a billion streams a year. My kids know that song. And they don't have access to streaming services or anything else like that. So, Nicki can come out with a monster song. Nicki is very talented. Like, let's not take away the antics from what she's actually accomplished. She still has vocal cords. She still has a musical understanding. She still has a lot of producers that will work with her. I mean, seriously. Like, she can call up Kanye, and Kanye will probably do something with her. I would say that she's almost, like, on Kanye's level of cancel, though.

2:13:08Like, not formally, but I feel like whatever revulsion people have towards Kanye, I feel like Nicki is approaching that. Now, going full diamond studded swastika, obviously, it's kind of a different level. But I feel like her going on stage with Trump and the whole MAGA thing is not far off. Well, Kanye is actually banned from entire countries. Yeah. I think Nicki should be banned from some countries. I don't know which ones exactly, but. Just pick some random countries. Yeah. Just don't let her go everywhere. Listen, if Nicki did a world tour, she would kill it. You think? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I'll protest.

2:13:50I'd heard that Kanye's building some sort of stadium in some European country so he can perform at. I don't know if this is true or not. The Jews are going to shut that down. The Jews are going to shut that down.

2:14:06Well, here's the problem, right? America's like, what's the big deal? Why don't these countries, why are they tripping off the Nazi shit? because the Nazis actually invaded a lot of those countries. Right. Like France wasn't taken over by the Nazis. It's a little more abstract to us. Yeah. It's an idea. Yeah. If the Nazis, if there was actually like Nazi fucking craters, you know. You go to Berlin and you see the rubble like all over the place. Oh, really? Of like different areas that were bombed. And it's this super trendy. It's still there? Yeah. They've gone out of their way to like preserve certain landmarks and stuff.

2:14:43Oh, they've probably preserved them. Oh, okay. And it's like a very hip, modern, artistic city with tons of culture. But then you still see these little signs everywhere of like, oh, wow, they were bombing this place. I've never been. I've never been to Germany. Berlin is amazing. I love it. Really? I've never been. So that's the reason. And Americans feel that everyone should think exactly like them. But that's the reason. You're dealing with countries that actually had Nazi invasions. There's people that are probably still alive that live through this shit. So, yeah, you have a ways to go. I personally feel that with Kanye that it was, you know, I think it's mental illness.

2:15:25Yeah, it's mental illness, Kanye. And his apology does seem sincere. Yeah. And unless suddenly Hail Hitler Part 2 comes out, I'm going to take him at his word. And look, when he came to L.A., he had no problems. Right. Stelling out. he could have probably done like 10 shows and sold out every show. Was it like a million people on the waiting list? I don't know. Yeah, it was some insane amount. He did two shows like during a week that both were sold out, which is pretty massive, yeah. Right, the biggest stadium in L.A.

2:16:01And usually, you know, my guy John Monopoly can get tickets. And this time he's like, nah, I can't get tickets. Same here. He had actually mentioned to us, like, I got you in Remo. and then when it actually came around he's like this is all fucked up we can't do shit uh okay kanye as much as i have not liked many of the things that he's done over the last few years he at least had the humility to acknowledge that he did something wrong and to try to reach out to rabbis and stuff like that i have never in my life seen one percent of that humility from nikki Minaj I don't think that there she has any capacity to apologize or acknowledge that she did anything wrong well she also hasn't lost anything right right Kanye that she knows well no I mean Kanye had very material losses yeah like think about it he lost Adidas I feel like probably a lot of Nicki Minaj's fan base that she's used to having there is probably not really going to be there for her in the near future but I don't know man you really dislike Nicki Minaj it seems yeah yeah yeah i think she's a pretty terrible person yeah yeah it's funny and she's spoken about me like yeah you know and i've interviewed her but yeah i feel like you you dislike her more i i dislike her yeah like you know she seems like a horrible person and yeah i mean i i really have disliked her for a long time right i just now i'm a public figure and i get to talk about it so yeah it's not It's nothing personal.

2:17:29Right. You know? Listen, I think that some people, me and Corey Holcomb, we spoke. So I'm doing 5150. I'm doing Corey Holcomb's podcast. That's his podcast? That's his podcast. Ask him about Flacco because they have a nice little rivalry going on. Oh, they do? They hate each other, yeah? Yeah. So me and Corey, we got on the phone yesterday. to talk about, you know, I'm going to do his show, then he's going to do my show, right? And we were just talking about how certain people act in Hollywood because I'm not really a Hollywood person like that, right? Like I went in through the YouTube door, which is like, you know.

2:18:17Same. You see what I'm saying? I never had to play the game. We never did the Hollywood thing. We were never at the top. We kind of went from the bottom, you know, the YouTube is the ground floor and slowly worked our way to where we are. But the Hollywood, he was kind of explaining to me how the Hollywood game, people are a little bit different. And Nikki is definitely part of this conversation because she's essentially at the highest level is that the level of insecurity and that everything needs to be on me and I can't share the spotlight with anybody and I'll fucking lose it to a point where people don't understand why I'm doing it.

2:18:53But it's that type of... insecurity and attention, need for attention that makes them who they are. But it's also the side effect of being who they are. You know what I'm saying? And I kind of got it. I'm like, oh, okay. That's what it is. You got to deal with certain people knowing that that's how they are. And it seems stupid. And you see them crashing out to try to keep that thing going. Like the fact that Nicki has beefed with every other major female rapper. Yeah. From a business level is stupid. Tells you really all you need to know about her right there. Like she had a song with Megan Thee Stallion.

2:19:37Right. Fell out almost immediately. Fell out with Megan Thee Stallion. Ice Spice tries to sign her to a f***ed up deal. Ice Spice clowns her. The way that played out is hilarious. Was she ever cool with Cardi? Uh, cause even going back to the motorsport thing, they weren't actually cool. That was like a QC trickery that they managed to get them on the same song. Yeah. I don't know that. I'm not so sure of who do we have left? Lil' Kim. She essentially, you know, she was doing poses. Like there's pictures of her doing Lil' Kim poses and they've never been cool. Now that could have been on Lil' Kim's part.

2:20:21Yeah. Right. I don't know. But, like, you need friends in your industry, right? Like, me being cool with my peers goes a long way. Like, in terms of, like, think about the narrative of the situation with me and Boosie and me and Aries. Think about how much academics helped out with that. When Ack said, hey, to the point where Boosie was like, oh, you just signed with Vlad because you guys are friends. and act was like no i think i'm fair yeah you know i think he is fair but i haven't seen almost any intelligent defense of boosie in this whole thing well my point is is that you kind of need friends in your industry like when you have friends and when people rock with you as you deal with the ups and downs it helps you can't just be this lone figure and think you're going to do as well as I mean think about if Nicki Minaj, Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion did a tour the three of them all the women would go and all the men would go just to see the women go I think at one point not all the men would go but a lot of men would go just for the women at one point it was like Meg, Glorilla and Cardi or something and they were all like performing on stage together and it really stood out of like oh okay like this is what the girl's side of hip-hop needs is some unity and right all coming together like this like this this will take you all far and obviously that's like ruled out for nikki unless she were to backpedal dramatically and get a whole new personality do some ayahuasca yeah i don't know i don't know but i think what makes nikki nikki is i it is really all about me It is, I need all the attention.

2:22:17I cannot share the stage with anyone. I can't give shout outs to anyone. It's me. No one, even when there was a producer, I'm the reason why the song is hot. Safari did nothing for me. Like, I am the everything, you know? And listen, that type of thinking will fuck you up. Yeah, it's not good. You know, like the Aries Spears thing, saying I'm the franchise player or whatever. If you look at my video, I fired off 10 people who consistently get more views than him per interview. Prove me wrong. Look at the numbers. Right? So you're saying, because in your mind, you know, look, you could create an echo chamber.

2:22:57Like, think about it. You could find a large group of people on the internet to agree with you on the stupidest shit possible. Oh, yeah. if you said yo I'm gonna if you went on the internet and said yo I'm gonna put on a bomb pack and go into a synagogue to kill all the Jews cause I wanna you know cause I'm gonna stop the genocide you'll find an army of people saying you should do that shit they would actively want you to because your chat in particular when you're live wants you to do the most entertaining thing They don't really want you to just live a nice, long, healthy life. Yes. You could find, you know, before the authorities, let's just say you had a window of time to do this before the FBI was told about it.

2:23:49They came and arrested you. You could probably find 10 ,000, 100 ,000 people to say, yo, like you're going to have your 72 virgins in heaven. Allah is going to bless you and you're absolutely doing the right thing. And you doing it as an American is going to turn things around because, you know, yeah, whatever you have the Middle East, you know, people, you know, blow themselves up over this shit. But an American doing that shit, especially you, that would be everything. And they blow yourself up and it will cause you a crash out. Yeah. Right. They all laugh at you. So the thing is, is that, yo, you create this narrative of you are everything.

2:24:34And you find these comments that are agreeing with you. And you're everything. And then you got this dude who opens up for you who's 60 years old and knows that he has no plan B. So he has to agree with you, right? If he's like, yo, Aries, come on, that's stupid.

2:24:52You can't base this on comments, whatever else. so now you got everyone agreeing with you and then you go and crash out because you know you're so focused on you being the greatest ever and the whole nine you can't be like that man you can't you gotta you gotta understand that we all did it together people worked on it together there's a group of people that accomplished certain things because otherwise you do it all yourself no definitely we gotta all the youtubers in particular have to work together to not embrace the radio nepo babies in the music industry that's what that's who we're actually against who are those you know charlamagne i'm not even saying him he's done a lot of business on his own but there's just a lot of people who like i think feel like they're better than us who because they have some sort of radio cosign and that's something I resent.

2:25:52I'll be honest. The radio people that I've met have all been very humble with me. Okay, true. A large percentage of them. Cruz, just hit me up. I'm going to do a show. I'm talking with Hot 97 again. Now that Ebro and Rosenberg are out of there. Oh, really? Yeah. Who do you think you're going to sit down with over there? I don't know. Interesting. I don't know. I mean, I would do the morning show though. Like, you know what I mean? If I'm going to go over there, like I do Breakfast Club. You're not going to put me on one of these little half-assed shows. Oh, okay. Like if I go over there, I'm going to do that.

2:26:25That's Miro, right? Miro. Yeah. I think he's struggling. Is he? Heard the ratings are pretty bad, yeah. It's a hard job. Yeah. New York radio going up against Charlemagne and them. Yeah. You know? Yeah. That's a tough job. Yeah. That's a tough job. And his partner was hating on me. uh desus desus yeah his former partner they've been beefing for years that's what i'm saying and he talked some shit about me and i'm like you're the ultimate fall off hip-hop media like seriously like you've done nothing like a ever since your partner left you i remember when everybody was acting like we're supposed to revere these guys because they had a showtime show i'm like listen i got a youtube channel i ain't worried about that you got you got to play the game to get a dv show i got a youtube channel nobody helped me get here yeah but there was a moment in time when being on showtime or vice or was it was a even complex like when action bronson had the food show on vice on vice but then i always used to say he should have skipped vice and just built the shit on his own channel and what's he doing now he's building on his own channel right yeah i heard he doesn't like me like i i had i'd been around him once and he was a little bit standoffish.

2:27:42I interviewed him back in the day and then I actually saw him in like 2019 and he was real cool to me. But then I messaged him a couple times since then and I didn't get a response. So I kind of felt like maybe he didn't like me to him. I don't know. Yeah. I was a huge Action Bronson fan. Really? Oh, huge. 2010, 11, 12-ish era. Huh. I'm a fan. I would love to have Action Bronson on my show. Action Bronson, reach out to me, man. Let's do something. Let's do something food related. White boys gotta stick together. man yeah yeah um all right vlad thank you for pulling up i appreciate it it was good getting to chop it up uh anything else you want to promote tell them go cop the stocks membership yeah man vlad stocks this is something i've been wanting to launch for years and years and years and years so this just launched uh last week i believe so so what it is is a few things uh first and foremost I created a$100 ,000 portfolio that consists of all the stocks I own in my main portfolio at the quantities that I would buy them at right now.

2:28:48So that stock portfolio, every time I buy and sell, I'm going to announce it. So for example, yesterday I bought a stock to add to my portfolio and I announced it straight to my Blast Stocks members. Also, one of the stocks in my portfolio hit an all-time high. which is a big deal. And you will see over time how I actually manage this portfolio and also my reasons with the way I manage it. And there is another video where I actually showed my entire investment growth since 2010. So since 2010, I grew$100 ,000 into like almost$1.2 million. And that's not my actual number because I put more money than that over the years.

2:29:39But it just showed that using my exact, you know, the trades that I made, that's how I grew it year after year. And there was one year where I lost 43 % of my entire portfolio. What year was that? 2022. Okay. But the market lost 18%. Just COVID type shit? Yeah, all the COVID, you know, when everything had run out and everything else like that. 22 was a f***ed up year. Yeah. But it actually shows how the money was made over the years without any sort of tricks or small penny stocks or crypto or anything else like that. These were all investments in companies that I really believed in. And the strategy really was just to go really heavy.

2:30:26You know, people say to diversify, but I just went really heavy in just a few companies that I totally believed in. And along with that is just a bunch of lessons, you know, where I break down my strategy. I show how to, you know, approach investing and so forth. And honestly, the whole get rich slow philosophy that Warren Buffett has been pushing his whole life. Something I really believe in is a$50 a month membership. And people ask, oh, well, you know, there's lots of free content like that on the internet. Yeah, absolutely. There's tons of it. There's not this content, though. And my approach is different than a lot of other people.

2:31:12And really, I want to build a community of people that are serious about investing. And if you have a stock portfolio of at least$10 ,000 or so,$50 a month is not a big deal. For sure. I mean,$50 is not a big deal when you're investing in something that will almost certainly make you money. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And I want a group of people that really are serious about what they're doing because I'm serious about what I'm doing. And it's kind of cool. now I'm making like quick videos about, you know, and you actually see the process of what I do and how I do it. And, you know, I check my stocks essentially every day.

2:31:52Yeah. I've always wanted to get more actively into the stock thing. So I'm going to, I'm going to get the membership. You're going to get the membership. Thank you. I'm going to check it out. Thank you. Thank you. And I guess you taught me you can actually do gifting of memberships. Yes. Which I really enjoy doing that when we are live streaming because it just gives you a chance to just take 50 of your viewers and just turn them into members and youtube is going to take 30 percent but some percentage of those are going to probably become repeat membership uh okay so if i do a live stream with my regular members at the the first tier during the live stream i can give i can gift them tiers to the ad stock don't actually know i i don't see that functionality so i have to be on a free stream to gift i can you do different levels of streams or i can't actually confirm but when i go to purchase the membership when i go to gift it i only see the option to gift regular memberships so from as far as i know there isn't an option to do other tiers but oh really maybe there is i don't know okay so do you buy the membership yourself yes but what happens when it's time to renew it does not automatically renew them but it does tell them you know they probably get a message or an email or whatever saying hey you can renew if you want to because to a lot of people they just are never going to give it a try so i figure gifting it is a nice way to show love and also potentially incentivize them to do it again can you track how many people that you've gifted ended up getting their own membership i don't think so but maybe i haven't really dug into it that'd be a useful that would be good that'd be useful because that's the question is is it going to be higher than 30 because 30 is what youtube who takes from the gifted subs.

2:33:36Obviously, the more you do, the smaller percentage return you're going to get. But I figure, why not give back to him a little bit? And I would like to thank you because you're the one who turned me on to really taking the members seriously. I shared my number with you the other day, which I don't publicize, but definitely has helped to make No Jumper more of a consistent business. Yeah, yeah. I think that should be part of everyone's business. And I still have the VladTV YouTube Masterclass, So there's a bunch of videos in that. For content creators. Yeah, that I think are really priceless and really shows kind of how money is made on this level.

2:34:14For sure. DJ Vlad, NoJumper, coolest podcast in the world. Check us out on YouTube, TikTok, Patreon. Go get the Vlad Stocks course. Go get a Vlad TV Moonrock Blunt. Yeah, with Presidential. Those are my partners. This is in seven states. This will actually get you fried. I have smoked one of these now at this point in my life and it definitely did the trick. Yes, sir. Appreciate you, man. Peace. Shout out to Vlad. Let's go.